Quentin Tarantino's 'The Hateful Eight'

[Fro]

Release Date: November 13, 2015

Starring:
Samuel L. Jackson
Kurt Russell
Tim Roth
Michael Madsen
Walton Goggins
Bruce Dern
Jennifer Jason Leigh
Demián Bichir
Channing Tatum

Okay so this doesn't have a trailer yet but I believe it's already wrapped filming or almost wrapped. I'd like to see Tarantino do another a normal, non genre-homage, modern crime drama instead of a third straight historical setting BUT I'm still ample psyched for this. I want another Reservoir Dogs/Pulp Fiction/Jackie Brown so bad though.

[turdpower]

Does Kill Bill only count as 1 film?

[Fro]

Does Kill Bill only count as 1 film?

Yea I think he considers it one since he filmed it as one and it was split up in post-prod. I would love to see him re-release that as a 3 or 4 hour director's cut single film.

[Percussion]

Yea I think he considers it one since he filmed it as one and it was split up in post-prod. I would love to see him re-release that as a 3 or 4 hour director's cut single film.

Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Afair

... hopefully sometime this year?

[VHS]

I started to dislike Tarantino immediately after Kill Bill Vol. 1. I've grown tired of his work, no taking away from his films of course. They're magnificent. It's just his style now that doesn't appeal to me all that much.

[Rancid_Planet]

You probably just don't like the fact that he's become so exclusively genre based. His early films were mash ups of various different genres. Since Kill Bill he picks one theme and runs with it. I'd agree his earlier work is better. Jackie Brown is his masterpiece so far as I'm concerned but I still love everything he does. Django was a little short on plot and I'm hoping this film is a bit more dense they way Inglorious Basterds was.

[McBain]

I've still not watched Inglorious Basterds. I fell asleep the first time I tried.

Loved Django and Kill Bill though. Will certainly check this out but I agree his earlier stuff was better.

[Rancid_Planet]

Inglorious is a great film but it sure as hell ain't your daddy's WWII flick. Its a foreign language film about, language, spies, lies and deceit, espionage, investigative minds and American bluster.

It has nothing to do with battles, strategy or even historical accuracy. Christoph Waltz is the mother fucking, scene stealing, bomb dropping machine though.

[Judas Iscariot]

I think Inglorious Basterds is my favorite Tarantino film to watch from a fun factor, but Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs can't be topped.

I've only seen Jackie Brown once, to be fair, so I'll have to go back to it.

[McBain]

Yeah same here I think.

[Rancid_Planet]

Jackie Brown is a work of art.

[Donald]

Didn't enjoy Django, but enjoy everything else. Death Proof is underrated.

[Jimmy Zero]

I thought Jackie Brown was pretty damn mediocre, myself.

I really like Tarantino's movies, but Jackie Brown did absolutely nothing for me. Reservoir Dogs, while a great movie, tends to be overrated IMO. With the exception of Django (which I liked, but didn't really love and don't feel the need to ever watch again) I love pretty much everything Tarantino has done post-Jackie Brown. The Kill Bill movies are great (especially 2), Death Proof is underrated and I don't get the hate it receives, and Inglorious Basterds is probably my favorite Tarantino movie besides Pulp Fiction.

Getting a little tired of Sam Jackson, though, tbh.

[McBain]

Didn't enjoy Django, but enjoy everything else. Death Proof is underrated.

LOVED Death Proof!

[Fro]

I too love Death Proof. I'm tired of Sam Jackson in general but I thought he was great in Django when he got to play a different type of character than he usually does. I enjoy Jackie Brown plenty but it's a step down from his first two films and I wouldn't call it a masterpiece. I've been meaning to re-watch it on Netflix. I just watched Reservoir Dogs again lately and man, I still love it so much. I hope The Hateful Eight doesn't take on the same tone as Django and is a little more serious. Django is good fun but obviously intentionally over the top and indulgent. I know the script for Hateful Eight leaked and that was a whole saga in itself but I don't know who would read a leaked script except the biggest of movie nerds who like to spoil things for themselves so I'm glad Quentin didn't let than dictate whether he filmed it or not since the majority of moviegoers wouldn't seek that out.

Kill Bill: The Whole Bloody Afair

... hopefully sometime this year?

Nice, I heard he wanted to do it but I didn't know he was already screening it. I'd like to see that version.

[Fro]

panel, poster

[VHS]

Watched the trailer and I'm amazed at how different it looks from the rest of his movies. It doesn't look like a "Tarantino film." That itself has turned me around w/ this. Very stoked to see it now.

[Fro]

Watched the trailer and I'm amazed at how different it looks from the rest of his movies. It doesn't look like a "Tarantino film." That itself has turned me around w/ this. Very stoked to see it now.

I know they played a trailer at comic con but I haven't seen it leaked anywhere. Where did you watch it and was it a cellphone capture of it?

[Jimmy Zero]

The only ones I know of are fan made youtube videos.

[The Beer Monster]

I used to massively geek out at Tarantino films, in fact in my media studies A level essays no matter what the topic I would somehow find a way to mention a Tarantino film. But I really didn't like death proof, I hated inglorious bastards and I thought django was a bit meh. So I'm really not bothered by this.
But saying that, the little bit of the 18 year old me that's left will probably persuade me to still go and see it.

[VHS]

I know they played a trailer at comic con but I haven't seen it leaked anywhere. Where did you watch it and was it a cellphone capture of it?

Looked back on the trailer I saw and yeah... it was a fake. Fuck, I hate it when people do this. Ugh, now I'm pissed.

[MikeHunt]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha haha! what a stupid fuck!!!!!

[LOCONUT]

http://bgr.com/2015/04/17/quentin-ta...eight-trailer/

[Rancid_Planet]

My love for Quentin's movies only grows over time. His mastery of story structure has given him this opportunity to be as playful of a mind as Hollywood has ever had and he takes full advantage of it. I cannot wait for this film.

[Judas Iscariot]

http://bgr.com/2015/04/17/quentin-ta...eight-trailer/

Fan made, bro.

[LOCONUT]

My love for Quentin's movies only grows over time. His mastery of story structure has given him this opportunity to be as playful of a mind as Hollywood has ever had and he takes full advantage of it. I cannot wait for this film.

I nearly gave up on him during the Grind house era, as those films were not my bag at all, but Inglorious Bastards and Django Unchained I thought were absolute masterpieces.

[LOCONUT]

Inglorious Bastards definitely cracks my top 10 films ever.

[Atty]

Django and Bastards are great. So thankful that I never had Bastards spoiled for me...


...I went in assuming it was based on some true story. Made it all the better by the end.

[VHS]

One of my main Tarantino annoyances is his scenes being so friggin' long. They're mainly two people sitting at a table w/ one of them explaining one particular topic in high detail (making us wonder why they're talking about it), and then enacting some horrific act that goes into what they were talking about for the last 10 minutes. Bastards did it and Django did as well. I like both movies, but it's impossible for me to make it through them in one sitting.

[Atty]

I absolutely loved the Bastards opening scene that did that

[Rancid_Planet]

I nearly gave up on him during the Grind house era, as those films were not my bag at all, but Inglorious Bastards and Django Unchained I thought were absolute masterpieces.

I thought he made brave choices during that era but I don't like those films as much as his more "serious" work.

Inglorious Bastards definitely cracks my top 10 films ever.

My personal top ten probably has no less that three of his movies on it. IB is one of them.

Django and Bastards are great. So thankful that I never had Bastards spoiled for me...


...I went in assuming it was based on some true story. Made it all the better by the end.

Wait...that ISNT how Hitler died???

[Percussion]

What is being considered this "Grindhouse era"? Uhh ... Grindhouse?

[LOCONUT]

Grindhouse, Death Proof and Planet Terror were all produced, written or directed by him. There is also one more shit fest in there I can't remember.

All the Robert Rodriguez type stuff I don't enjoy. I turned off Machete after an hour. It all just blows and I don't care much for it stylistically. The only good thing to come out of that period was Rose McGowan in those great freaking outfits.

[Pablo Diablo]

Wasn't Grindhouse just Planet Terror and Death Proof in one showing?

[Percussion]

Grindhouse, Death Proof and Planet Terror were all produced, written or directed by him. There is also one more shit fest in there I can't remember.

All the Robert Rodriguez type stuff I don't enjoy. I turned off Machete after an hour. It all just blows and I don't care much for it stylistically. The only good thing to come out of that period was Rose McGowan in those great freaking outfits.

He co-wrote Planet Terror and he also directed Death Proof. That's all the major work he did between Kill Bill and Basterds. I guess I just didn't see it as a real "era" of work, more of him just fucking off for a summer on a double-feature idea with his buddy. Whatevs. Though I personally did fucking love Death Proof. The Butterfly dance scene, the head-on collision, and the "Ship's Mast" finale were terrific.

Also, Rose McGowan never did get the full credit she deserved for being an irreputable piece of lust.

[Morrison]

im the exact opposite. i adore the grindhouse stuff to death, but have no love for inglorious bastetds and have yet to feel like sitting through django. there are parts of basterds i enjoy, especially all of christoph waltz' stuff, but overall i found it tedious and self-indulgent, and not in a good way. shit like the odd BOOM BANG HUGO STIGLITZ mega font introduction being the ONLY time that kind of thing is used the entire film annoys me. why not introduce some other basterds, like the bear jew, with shit like that? it just feels out of place and decadent for no reason, especially given the relatively low key and era appropriate style of everything from the wardrobe to the set pieces. no consistency. just like during the beginning of the theater scene, when we get some scribbled text with arrows on screen to point out high level nazi officials. lazy and out of place. has no cinematic value or consistency.

however, both of those devices would have fit in perfectly in planet terror or death proof, because those films were established with those kind of arrangements feeling organic and not jarring.

[Atty]

Wait...that ISNT how Hitler died???

That may have been the moment I realized...

It made me mad for like a tenth of a second and then I just sniggered like a manic.

[VHS]

I absolutely loved the Bastards opening scene that did that

Me too. I think he does that kind of formatted scene way too often though.

[Tyson]

Walton Goggins, fuck yeah!!!

Rewatching The Shield this summer, such an outstanding actor. How/why he was unable (unwilling?) to turn that run into something bigger in Hollywood completely mystifies me...those last three seasons were especially masterful.

[Seanny One Ball]

Jackie Brown is his masterpiece so far as I'm concerned but I still love everything he does. Django was a little short on plot and I'm hoping this film is a bit more dense they way Inglorious Basterds was.

I agree with VHS, Tarantino has been exposed. He's not a bad director, he's just not the man this first films made him out to be.

Jackie Brown is truly a great film and I'm with you, it has always been my favourite of his movies. True Romance is a close second though.

[Aero]

Wait...that ISNT how Hitler died???

That may have been the moment I realized...

It made me mad for like a tenth of a second and then I just sniggered like a manic.

The first time I watched it, it just didn't occur to me at any point that, although obviously the story was fiction set during WWII, QT would have an ending that would change how the war actually ended. So yeah, Hitler being gunned down like that ended up being a surprise... but I probably should have seen it coming.

I didn't like Django as much as most others did, but I've only seen it once. I had a similar reaction to Basterds the first time around, but several viewings since have changed my mind. I'd probably put it as my second favorite QT movie, behind Pulp Fiction.

[Donald]

Django to me over did things in a bad way. N word this, n word that. Plus I'm not a fan of Jamie Foxx. DiCaprio's first performance as a villain if I'm not mistaken?

[Seanny One Ball]

He played J Edgar the film before that if you count him as a villain...I know the film pretty much does.
Also he's the lovable bastard in Catch Me If You Can - Frank Abagnale.
Plus he plays an evil cunt in one of his duel roles in The Man In The Iron Mask so nah he has done it before.

[Judas Iscariot]

He was also the villain in Titanic, stealing poor Cal's bride.

[Rancid_Planet]

Dicaprio was the best thing about Django. Should have won an Oscar for best supporting actor. He was deliciously evil. It oozed out of the screen. Fucking outstanding.

[Fro]

[VHS]

Looks good. Looks like... another Tarantino movie.

[The Beer Monster]

I really want this to be good. I haven't liked anything he's done for years.

[VHS]

I really want this to be good. I haven't liked anything he's done for years.

Kill Bill 1 and 1 were the beginning for me. I started to see what his style was going to be and I didn't like it so much. I liked the KB movies, was so-so w/ Basterds... hated Django. The guy takes so much pride w/ his filmmaking, which isn't a knock on him... he just does it with such an apparent ego that it makes me roll my eyes every time he feels the need to tell us what act we're going into, how his characters have to have nicknames, and how every scene is a 10 minute lead up to a sole punchline.

Clearly, I've got issues w/ Tarantino. But he's still one of my favorite filmmakers... it's very love/hate. Hope Hateful 8 is good, but it looks like the same thing he's been doing for a long time now.

[The Beer Monster]

I feel almost exactly the same. I think because reservoir dogs and pulp fiction were so good, it adds to my disappointment when I get bored by 5 girls having a chat for 45 minutes before they have a car chase with kurt Russel.

[Jimmy Zero]

Looks pretty meh.

That trailer did nothing for me. I generally really enjoy Tarantino's movies, even his recent stuff (except for Django; that was pretty mediocre), but this one looks awfully boring.

[Fro]

It looks like a spin off of Django - same historical setting and similar character types. I don't think it looks great nor does it look bad. It seems to all take place more or less in the inn so really it'll come down to how good the script is, and people who read the leaked version and/or witnessed the table reading seemed to be impressed so I'm sure I will enjoy it. I can't wait for him to do another modern crime drama (a la his first 3 films) and get out of this historical setting/genre-film streak he's in, but I liked both Django and Basterds.

[Beer-Belly]

Someone elsewhere said this looks like Reservoir Dogs meets Clue in a Western setting. I like that.

[Rancid_Planet]

I found Django to be fucking brillaint. Dicaprio should have picked up an Oscar for best supporting actor that year. Nobody else came in to steal the 2nd act of a movie like he did. It was evil in a serious way.

This movie looks brilliant as usual. But QT puts so much thought into everything he does that at this point I don't think he will ever fail. He never let's his ambitions surpass his abilities. He has consistently grown as a filmmaker over the years. Going from a dialogue only guy with occasional badass extended camera shots to a guy who can legitimately film action sequences. And he's basically entirely self taught.

I love the shit out of him. And this trailer gave me wood.

[Fro]

I think my favorite part of the trailer is Tim Roth and his accent.

[lotjx]

Someone elsewhere said this looks like Reservoir Dogs meets Clue in a Western setting. I like that.

Sold.

[VHS]

It does look like the story will have a more enclosed setting. Just by looking @ the trailer, most of the film will be set in that cottage. Gonna be a lotta talking in this.

[Tyson]

This looks so good...I'm in.

Plus, Walton Goggins for the win.

[Beer-Belly]

Kurt Russell is a legend. I can't wait to see what he does in this.

[Rancid_Planet]

Kurt Russell is a legend. I can't wait to see what he does in this.

I hope Dolph realizes that's what he's going to look like in 2035.

[Beer-Belly]

Dolph needs a Jack Burton gimmick.

[VHS]

Holy shit, Dolph does look like him!

[virms]

This looks so good...I'm in.

Plus, Walton Goggins for the win.

I hope he has decent screen time in this because the man can go. Would love to see him bouncing off this cast.

[Rancid_Planet]

Dolph needs a Jack Burton gimmick.

Every promo starts with "You know what old Jack Burton would say at a time like this?"

[VHS]

Every promo starts with "You know what old Jack Burton would say at a time like this?"

Wins a match by the skin of his teeth... grabs a mic and says... "It's all in the reflexes."

[Fro]

tarantino's always a good interview

[Judas Iscariot]

I hate that interviewer so fucking much.

[McBain]

I feel almost exactly the same. I think because reservoir dogs and pulp fiction were so good, it adds to my disappointment when I get bored by 5 girls having a chat for 45 minutes before they have a car chase with kurt Russel.

I enjoyed Death Proof.

But I agree with you and VHS. His early stuff had so much more depth for me. I still enjoy his films but they're polished trash to the nth degree.

[McBain]

He is a good interview though and clearly very talented.

[Judas Iscariot]

Death Proof bored me. It might be because I did the Grindhouse double feature thing and saw Planet Terror and the amazing fake trailers before it started, but sitting through a couple of hours of nothing before a cool car chase scene didn't cap off my 5 hour time investment like I'd have liked.

I've glimpsed it on TV, but should probably give it another proper watch. It's the black eye on Tarantino for me.

[McBain]

I watched it with very low expectations and was pleasantly surprised. Great car chase haha.

[Fro]

Death Proof is fun, not a black eye for him at all to me though it's at the bottom of his filmography. I never watched Grind House together and wouldn't really want to.

I love Tarantino interviews in part because of how much of a fan he is of film and television and not at all a snobby fan in what he enjoys or talks about. It's fun to hear him talk in this interview about how much he loved The Newsroom and The Town (even though as he points out The Town needs more ugly actors lol). He is a complete movie geek.

[Seanny One Ball]

He's a complete gimp and Deathproof is tripe. Nothing Quentin Tarantino does has been original really but Pulp and Jackie were fun and True Romance was the tits. Nothing else is memorable for particularly good reasons. Even Django was boring by midway.

[Rancid_Planet]

Death Proof is great. I love slasher movies where the weapon is a car.

It's true Quentin is more of a dialogue guy than a layered plot guy. Reservoir Dogs is actually a very simple narrative it's just put together very out of order so it forces you to pay attention. Pulp Fiction had layers but Quentin also had help writing it. Jackie Brown had layers but was based on the novel Rum Punch.

Then you have Kill Bills and Death Proof which weren't meant to be much more than fun action movies and they certainly were.

Inglorious Basterds. This is the one Tarantino film I always point out as having layers and subtlety. It's really an amazing film if a little slow in parts.

Django was sort of a hybrid
spaghetti western/blacksploitation/revenge film and while I love it (and feel DiaCaprio deserved best supporting actor for it) it's a little all over the place in terms of deciding what it wants to be.

I'm super stoked for Hateful Eight. It seems like a character driven piece in line with the best of his earlier and later work. And as usual the cast alone has me frothing at the mouth.

[Seanny One Ball]

Do you have to mention Leo's Oscar merit in every post by contractual obligation or something?

[Rancid_Planet]

Do you have to mention Leo's Oscar merit in every post by contractual obligation or something?

If by "every post" you mean the one from 5 months ago and the one just now, then yes. But yeah I do harp on that a lot.

It was Hollywood thievery I tell you!!

I'll make sure to shut the fuck up about it for a while.

[Percussion]

Waltz deserved it.

[lotjx]

Honestly, the only movie, I have a problem with is the pacing of Kill Bill 2. Volume one is so fast and fresh that was great. Volume two moves at an awkward speed at times. The basement cellar meeting in Bastards felt like forever. Minus that, I think his movies are top notch and I can't wait for Hateful Eight.

[Seanny One Ball]

If by "every post" you mean the one from 5 months ago and the one just now, then yes. But yeah I do harp on that a lot.

It was Hollywood thievery I tell you!!

I'll make sure to shut the fuck up about it for a while.

You mentioned it in July, August and today. It appears 3 times on this page with my settings

[Seanny One Ball]

The cellar bar scene is the best part of Basterds. Walz is good too but the rest is mediocre.

[Rancid_Planet]

You mentioned it in July, August and today. It appears 3 times on this page with my settings

I gobble gobble slurp slurp DiCaprio.

The cellar bar scene is the best part of Basterds. Walz is good too but the rest is mediocre.

That is, in fact, the best scene in the movie.

[lotjx]

The best scene in Bastards is the massacre in theater. I feel like that bar scene is still going on.

[Fro]

The best scene in Bastards is the massacre in theater.

I would probably agree, the massacre pays off wonderfully and is really well shot. The opening scene would be my other choice. I like the bar scene but I can see why people think the set up to when their cover gets blown is too long. Fassbender is so great in that scene though.

Waltz deserved the Oscar for Basterds in spades. He was good in Django too but his performance didn't strike me as necessarily Oscar-worthy. He was basically a lead character put in the Supporting Actor category though and was up against a weak field so I was happy he won. Leo was good too and probably deserved a nomination but not a win. Leo's biggest snub to me is The Aviator, he really should have won for that (he lost to Django himself Jamie Foxx for Ray).

[Rancid_Planet]

Jamie Foxx was pretty amazing in Ray.

[Fro]

That's true.

He's a complete gimp and Deathproof is tripe. Nothing Quentin Tarantino does has been original really but Pulp and Jackie were fun and True Romance was the tits. Nothing else is memorable for particularly good reasons. Even Django was boring by midway.

If you don't like Reservoir Dogs I question your judgment.

[McBain]

I can't be the only one that absolutely hates the massacre scene in Basterds. I really don't get "an eye for an eye". The whole film is incredibly off-putting.

[Judas Iscariot]

You hippie.

Basterds is phenomenal. Every second of it.

[Fro]

Imagine if Adam Sandler had played the Bear Jew like he was supposed to, LOL. That would have been funny. I think he would have done fine but it was for the best.

[Judas Iscariot]

I didn't know he was supposed to be the Bear Jew. I love him but Roth was perfect.

[McBain]

You hippie.

Basterds is phenomenal. Every second of it.

The thing is I really liked Kill Bill so it's not like I don't like revenge films. Basterds just reveled in it way too much though I thought. Gleeful revenge just leaves a sour taste.

[Fro]

The thing is I really liked Kill Bill so it's not like I don't like revenge films. Basterds just reveled in it way too much though I thought. Gleeful revenge just leaves a sour taste.

Interesting take coming from MCBAIN.

[McBain]

I LIED.

[Seanny One Ball]

That's true.



If you don't like Reservoir Dogs I question your judgment.

Reservoir Dogs is a good movie but it's not a film that really gets me going at the thought of popping it into the DVD player. The Diner tip argument is great though and probably benefits from some ad libbing.
I love Tim Roth though so I watch it pretty much just for him and Buscemi.

Tarantino's best film is really True Romance. That's a film I could watch all day long and I consider it brilliant. I cannot make the same claim for Reservoir Dogs

I can't be the only one that absolutely hates the massacre scene in Basterds. I really don't get "an eye for an eye". The whole film is incredibly off-putting.

No you're definitely not. It pretty much wrecked the film and the worst part is the sad little "I think this might be my best work yet" right at the end which no matter which way you slice it is quite obviously a little self pat on the back from Tarantino to Tarantino and it's fucking gay as shit.

It's not your best film Quentin, your best film isn't even really your own film. You have Roger Avery to thank for it.

[Jimmy Zero]

True Romance is definitely not Tarantino's best film.

[Rancid_Planet]

True Romance is good but I can't say it's better than anything Quentin has directed.

[Judas Iscariot]

[Seanny One Ball]

True Romance is definitely not Tarantino's best film.

It doesn't matter what you think when I'm telling you something I believe genuinely and won't be changed on.

[Simmo Fortyone]

The cellar bar scene is the best part of Basterds.

Glad you enjoyed it because Hateful Eight will be a three hour version of that scene.

[lotjx]

Glad you enjoyed it because Hateful Eight will be a three hour version of that scene.

Oh boy...

[Seanny One Ball]

Glad you enjoyed it because Hateful Eight will be a three hour version of that scene.

I wont be watching Hateful Eight anytime soon mate so it really doesn't put me up nor down.

I might watch Jackie Brown tonight just to remind myself that he did for a period of time know how to make a good movie out of very little besides concentrated focus on human interactions.