"Rowdy" Ronda Rousey

**sam_elmendorf** · October 7th, 2014, 8:54 PM

I've never seen a thread dedicated to just Ronda, so I wanted to start one. If there is one MODS, close this one.

Let's get it started with what you think is going to happen if Cristiane Justino comes in to UFC to face the rowdy one?

Should we even be talking about this since she hasn't even had her 135 pound fight yet in Invicta FC?

Will Mr. White bring her in, or will he come up with reasons not to bring her in?

Will he protect Ronda since she is a multi genre superstar for the women's division in the UFC?

**Nash Diesel** · October 8th, 2014, 9:37 AM

Part of me used to think Ronda didn't want shit to do with Cyborg. Now that her skills have evolved, I think she would welcome the fight more than in the past. She still wants it at 135. Cyborg isn't a hard sell, you show what she can do and if she lasts at 135 I don't see a reason for her not to be on Rousey's radar for 2015. Sadly, I think that we'll miss this one just like we probably will with Anderson Silva v. GSP. Or maybe it'll be down the road even more when it won't be as relevant like say Liddell v. Wanderlai. Rousey's schedule is unknown. Will she keep acting? Will she even be champion? She still has a couple women that are barking up her tree that are very good, but again, Ronda's skills are also evolving, she's not just judo she's putting it all together and looking good doing it.

If she was willing to fight Gina Carano, why would she turn down any fight? You can't just accept a fight like that and not expect people to expect you to fight everyone else. You want to defend your belt against someone who hasn't fought in 4-5 years yet won't fight the others? Yeah Ronda's not the type to let people get one over on her. I think if both women keep winning, stay injury free, and Rousey doesn't do a movie at the end of the year, we'll see these 2 in December 2015 main eventing a huge ppv.

**OD50** · October 10th, 2014, 2:06 PM

I like Ronda more than most I guess.. Still hope Cat Zingano somehow can take her out though.

**OD50** · October 10th, 2014, 2:13 PM

As for Ronda/Cyborg.. in SF a couple of years ago at 145 I'm positive Cyborg would have legit murdered Ronda. Today at 135 I'd favor Rousey. Will be interesting to see Cyborg's 135 debut in Invicta though.

**Nash Diesel** · October 10th, 2014, 2:19 PM

Yeah I have to see Cyborg at 135 not just once, but a couple times before making a solid statement on who'd win. Some talent thrives at a lower weight, others not so much. I think the only reason Cyborg is going down to 135 is to make a run at Ronda and since Ronda has no intentions on fighting Cyborg at any weight other than 135 (can't blame her) then that's what she'll have to do.

**sam_elmendorf** · October 24th, 2014, 11:10 PM

FROM ESPN

UFC female bantamweight champion Ronda Rousey willl seek her fifth title defense against the undefeated Cat Zingano at UFC 182 on Jan. 3 in Las Vegas.

UFC president Dana White confirmed the bout to UFC Tonight on Wednesday. The pay-per-view event will take place at MGM Grand Garden Arena.

The championship fight is more than one year in the making. Zingano, 32, originally earned a shot at Rousey following a TKO win over Miesha Tate in April 2013, but suffered a torn ACL in her right knee the following month.

Rousey (10-0) has defended the 135-pound title three times since Zingano's injury, recording finishes in each title bout. After winning her first eight professional bouts by armbar, the former U.S. Olympic judoka has posted back-to-back first-round knockouts in her only two appearances of 2014. Rousey, 27, required limited time off after her last title defense in July, due to a hand injury.

Zingano (9-0) returned from a 17-month layoff at UFC 178 last month. She survived a rough first round against Amanda Nunes, en route to a TKO finish in the third round. Fighting out of Broomfield, Colo., Zingano has finished eight of the nine opponents she's faced.

Immediately following the win, White confirmed Zingano had re-established herself as the division's No. 1 contender.

A light heavyweight title bout between champion Jon Jones and Daniel Cormier is scheduled to headline UFC 182. That bout was originally supposed to take place at UFC 178, but was postponed when Jones suffered a knee injury during training.

**Nash Diesel** · November 4th, 2014, 11:27 AM

Check this interview with Rousey where she thinks Cyborg should be charged with homicide because she tested positive for PEDs...

http://www.mmaweekly.com/ronda-rouse...mpted-homicide

**Nash Diesel** · November 5th, 2014, 4:13 PM

Read an interview on BJPenn.com talking about Sara McMann saying she still believes she's the toughest opponent for Ronda, even though Ronda smoked her in a minute.....

**OD50** · November 5th, 2014, 5:09 PM

It was sort of a questionable stoppage but whatever, if she wins 2-3 fights she'll get another crack.

**sam_elmendorf** · December 1st, 2014, 8:40 PM

Watched The Expendables 3 over the weekend. Not as bad as a lot of people made it out to be. Was it better than the other 2, no. Was it just a big dumb popcorn movie with action and shit blowing up, YEAH! The only scene I didn't like with Ronda, was her introduction. Might have been her first day on set, but it just seemed she was unnatural. But the rest of her scenes were ok. Antonio ate that movie up and owned it as far as I'm concerned. Arnold's 2 chopper lines were 1 too many, but bearable.

So, pro's and con's on Ronda's acting ability, future?

**virms** · December 1st, 2014, 9:48 PM

She wasn't bad but with practice she should be good. She definitely has a great appeal about her and with the right agent there is no reason she should have to fight much longer honestly.

**Nash Diesel** · December 2nd, 2014, 10:22 AM

If they play to her strengths then she should be fine if she wants to pursue this post-fighting career. Expendables was her first movie and that's a good start. Pretty much what they did with Carano, surrounded her with mega names in her first movie, limited dialogue, and a ton of ass kicking lol.

**Seanny One Ball** · December 2nd, 2014, 5:03 PM

I think she's hot and a good fighter but her attitude stinks and she has proven that about as many times as she has won.

Meisha Tate is waaaaaaaaaaay more sympathetic and everyone believes that b.s about Bryan Caraway and her bullying Rhonda. Jesus, after that TUF season I'm amazed Tate hasn't filed a restraining order.

**Nash Diesel** · December 2nd, 2014, 5:33 PM

Caraway is an idiot though and Tate is just being the good girlfriend defending him. But she should keep quiet, like when she tried to say why would she be with this dude for so long if he was about abusing women and all I could think of was the hundreds of thousands of women who stay in abusive relationships and act like nothing's wrong with what happens lol. Like that Ray Rice NFL player, his wife is sticking by his side even though she got her ass knocked out in an elevator by him.

With that said, Tate should be in movies. She's beautiful.

**Mik** · December 2nd, 2014, 5:45 PM

She's not beautiful. She's extremely hot for a fighter with a great body and an average face. But she wouldnt look anything special at all next to a movie star.

**Nash Diesel** · December 2nd, 2014, 5:54 PM

Originally Posted by Mik

She's not beautiful. She's extremely hot for a fighter with a great body and an average face. But she wouldnt look anything special at all next to a movie star.

Naw, she's beautiful, and you can't tell me that every actress out there is hotter than she is or more beautiful than she is. Being a dick I could say look at Susan Sarandon, no way that old lady is hotter than Tate even in her prime. Rebel Wilson? She's hotter than any female on the Walking Dead, Agents of Shield, that's pretty much the only t.v. shows I watch lol.

**Bert** · December 2nd, 2014, 6:00 PM

Dude what. I'm sure Tate has a great personality but Maggie on Walking Dead and Sky & Simmons on Agents of Shield are both hotter, no question.

**Fanny Batter** · December 2nd, 2014, 6:00 PM

I'd smash the bejesus out of Susan Sarandon still, no doubt about it.

**Mik** · December 2nd, 2014, 6:14 PM

Originally Posted by Nash Diesel

Naw, she's beautiful, and you can't tell me that every actress out there is hotter than she is or more beautiful than she is. Being a dick I could say look at Susan Sarandon, no way that old lady is hotter than Tate even in her prime. Rebel Wilson? She's hotter than any female on the Walking Dead, Agents of Shield, that's pretty much the only t.v. shows I watch lol.

When you are talking about 'movie star looks', people dont just mean 'anyone who is in movies'.

**Nash Diesel** · December 2nd, 2014, 6:30 PM

Originally Posted by Mik

When you are talking about 'movie star looks', people dont just mean 'anyone who is in movies'.

You said she wouldn't look anything special next to a movie star. What movie stars? I can think of a lot of movie stars that people think have "movie star looks" that are butt fuck ugly. I think she definitely has the looks to be in movies. I mean if you're talking about an elite group of women that you're thinking of instead of just generalizing by posting that next to a movie star she'd look average...well what actresses? It's all about taste obviously, so I definitely respect what you're saying because again, you might find an actress perfect whereas I might find them hideous.

**Nash Diesel** · December 2nd, 2014, 6:31 PM

Originally Posted by Bert

Dude what. I'm sure Tate has a great personality but Maggie on Walking Dead and Sky & Simmons on Agents of Shield are both hotter, no question.

Maggie, maybe, I've seen some smokin hot pictures of her. Sky? No way. Simmons? That's a close one too but I'm still going with Tate.

**Bert** · December 2nd, 2014, 7:39 PM

**Nash Diesel** · December 2nd, 2014, 8:04 PM

#TeamTate4Life

**Seanny One Ball** · December 3rd, 2014, 11:12 AM

Tate is beautiful, I'm with Nash on this 100%

**sam_elmendorf** · December 3rd, 2014, 6:36 PM

For me personally, no one is hotter right now than Maggie "Lauren Cohan"!

I do find Ronda is sexy though.

**Bert** · December 3rd, 2014, 7:45 PM

Skye > Maggie > Ronda > Miesha

**Nash Diesel** · December 5th, 2014, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by Bert

Skye > Maggie > Ronda > Miesha

Oh come on Bert...Ronda>Miesha?? You must be that intimidated by her you're willing to give her the nod in fear of her seeing these posts!

**sam_elmendorf** · December 9th, 2014, 9:44 PM

FROM THE AP:

Ronda Rousey memoir coming in 2015

The Associated PressPosted: 12/09/2014 12:50:45 PM MST | Updated: about 5 hours ago

NEW YORK (AP) — Actress and martial arts champion Ronda Rousey is ready to share some war stories.

Rousey's memoir "My Fight/Your Fight" has been acquired by Regan Arts, the publisher announced Tuesday. The memoir is scheduled to come out in May and will be co-written by Rousey's sister, Maria Burns Ortiz, a sports journalist who contributes to Fox News Latino and ESPN.com.

Known for her brash, trash-talking style, the 27-year-old Rousey was the first American woman to win an Olympic bronze medal in judo and she currently holds the women's bantamweight title for the mixed martial arts organization Ultimate Fighting Championship. She was seen last summer in "The Expendables 3" and is scheduled to appear in "Furious 7" and "Entourage," a feature film based on the HBO series.

**sam_elmendorf** · December 23rd, 2014, 7:38 PM

Last 60 seconds i'll let you ....

I think I'd let her beat me up for 60 seconds!

1:19 & 2:00 minute mark.

**Nash Diesel** · December 24th, 2014, 10:28 AM

Never saw the show but I do remember Liddell was on it. Rousey's entourage looked like 3 rough lookin dudes, the Horsewomen....But good for Ronda, she's basically a walking hypocrite for bashing women in the past for doing exactly what she's been doing since the UFC brought in WMMA. Posing naked, half naked, doing movies, when she was rambling a couple years ago about how she doesn't need to do that and put herself out there like that. Either way I'm not complaining, I just find it funny when you hear someone knock others and then a year later do the exact same shit to improve your brand.

**sam_elmendorf** · January 21st, 2015, 6:29 PM

**Mik** · January 22nd, 2015, 7:12 AM

Jeez that poster is awful.

**Nash Diesel** · January 22nd, 2015, 2:47 PM

Is Cat going to pull off the upset?

I think the women's division at 135 needs Rousey out of a couple title fights. It just feels like Rousey and everyone else lol. Miesha is pretty popular, but she failed twice against Rousey. I think we'll more than likely see them fight one more time before they call it a career. I just think the division could benefit from Rousey losing, showing that she's not head and shoulders superior to the rest of the fighters. For the women it has to be more than just who's the hottest, but convincing a male dominated sport it's going to be hard for guys to see beyond that unless they're straight up badass dominant like R3 is.

**Mark Hammer** · January 22nd, 2015, 3:14 PM

Originally Posted by Mik

Jeez that poster is awful.

It really is. They seem to have the right idea but the execution is horrible. Belfort and Zingano don't even look like Belfort or Zingano.

**Mark Hammer** · January 22nd, 2015, 3:15 PM

Originally Posted by Nash Diesel

Is Cat going to pull off the upset?

I think the women's division at 135 needs Rousey out of a couple title fights. It just feels like Rousey and everyone else lol. Miesha is pretty popular, but she failed twice against Rousey. I think we'll more than likely see them fight one more time before they call it a career. I just think the division could benefit from Rousey losing, showing that she's not head and shoulders superior to the rest of the fighters. For the women it has to be more than just who's the hottest, but convincing a male dominated sport it's going to be hard for guys to see beyond that unless they're straight up badass dominant like R3 is.

Cat spends too much time getting beat up in the first round for me to give her much of a chance vs Rousey.

**Nash Diesel** · January 22nd, 2015, 5:08 PM

Originally Posted by Mark Hammer

It really is. They seem to have the right idea but the execution is horrible. Belfort and Zingano don't even look like Belfort or Zingano.

That's because the last time you posted here Vitor was still all about that TRT homeboy! lol. Cat looks like Cyborg Santos-female.

**Nash Diesel** · February 13th, 2015, 11:52 AM

I do find it quite comical that early in Rousey's career she talked negatively about women in MMA posing in their bikinis and whatnot and really since she won the SF title she's done a complete 180. Of course I'm talking about her Sports Illustrated photo shoot, she looks really good in those pics.

**Fanny Batter** · February 13th, 2015, 5:24 PM

I think getting your arse out for a FIGHT! magazine pictorial is a bit different to Sports Illustrated and the Body Issue. When Rousey does a shoot it's being associated with other athletes. Nobody looks down on Sharapova or Pendleton for showing off their beauty, because they do it in decent publications.

**Nash Diesel** · February 13th, 2015, 5:29 PM

To be fair she's done solo pictorials so to speak in various mags so it's not like she's just simply doing stuff like the Body issue. I think she just realized that she can't be a tom-boy 24/7 and that sex sells and in a male dominated sport both in terms of her peers and the fans, she's going to make more money doing bikini pics and all that fun jazz as opposed to being just one of the guys like she used to act back in the day.

**The Law** · March 1st, 2015, 1:16 PM

So after last night I think the biggest issue Rousey has is whether people are going to be willing to pay to see her fight if none of her opponents can challenge her. Are people going to keep buying pay-per-views if she keeps winning in 30 seconds or less? Or can they find some fighters who can actually make her work?

**Seanny One Ball** · March 1st, 2015, 2:03 PM

I think it's likely you'll see Miesha again sometime soon.

It's the JDS/Cain of the womans division right now except Miesha doesn't look likely to win...ever.

**Dream-Evil** · March 1st, 2015, 7:54 PM

Will probably have to end up having her be the co-main from here on out, out of fear of her stomping opponents within 20 seconds.

**Pete Cash** · March 1st, 2015, 8:59 PM

I caught her match at the pub. I like her because she seems to make mma fans furious.

**Bert** · March 1st, 2015, 9:51 PM

Why would she do that?

**Pete Cash** · March 2nd, 2015, 6:28 AM

Beats me but every time she wins there is loads of hilarity on sherdog.

**Nash Diesel** · March 2nd, 2015, 11:00 AM

Ronda has nothing to do with the loads of "hilarity" on their message board, the level of dumbass gets raised every minute of the day lol.

But I agree about the ppv thing, I read about 5 FB posts on my short list of friends that were basically hyping up the ppv, 2 of them were female fans, excited for the main event and then it was.... "I want my money back". That's basically her biggest negative, which isn't horrible, I mean she's dominant and Mike Tyson knocked motherfuckers out with ease as well but also in Tyson's case...the people he was destroying, he was just that much better. It took till Tyson was post-prison before he started fighting guys on his level or much better and honestly the post-prison Tyson fights are more entertaining than just seeing him knock out subpar dudes in a few minutes. Not to say it wasn't fun watching him lay out people just like I'm not saying it's not cool to see someone so dominant in Ronda Rousey. And Rousey, unlike Tyson in his pre-prison run, she's fighting the elite, women that if you put the #4 v. the #2 ranked, it's going to be competitive. Rousey's just that much more ahead of the game than her competition, at least at this stage.

So it will probably be a little while before we see some truly competitive fights. Def agree about her being a co-main, or at least try to have a really strong co-main under her. Again, nothing horrible about her finishing most of her opponents within a few seconds lol, but it can leave something to be desired.

**sam_elmendorf** · March 2nd, 2015, 3:04 PM

People going to a pub or bar have no right to complain about wanting their money back.

I have no problem with Rousey destroying her opponents. I had no problem with Tyson when he was destroying his opponents. Rousey is dominating in her division, and will continue to be, everyone will have to deal with it. It's no secret that she destroys within seconds or minutes, so you know what you're paying for.

**Nash Diesel** · March 2nd, 2015, 3:38 PM

I don't think these people were at a bar demanding their money back, that'd be a little weird.....

And trust me, totally get it, that's why I don't order fights for her specifically. Honestly I've never ordered a card she's been on, nothing personal against her or anything I just haven't ordered very many events over the last 2 years. But if I were to order a card with her on it, it wouldn't have been this one, the original card I would have with Vitor and Weidman headlining but this card didn't really scream "worth it". Crazy to think her last 2 title fights, total of 30 seconds lol.

My boss and I were talking just about how there aren't very many female fighters with the pedigree that Ronda has and I'm not even talking about the Olympics, just the fact she was basically thrown to the Judo wolves at like the age of 2 and that work ethic is top notch which stems from her mother being such a strong woman herself. Very very very few fighters are coming into MMA with the strong base that Ronda has, with the work ethic, the confidence. I'm someone who really couldn't stand listening to her on TUF, but what she does in the cage is unbelievable.

**Seanny One Ball** · March 2nd, 2015, 4:07 PM

She's younger than me and she scares the bejesus out of me.

**Mik** · March 3rd, 2015, 5:01 PM

There is no reason why the likes of McCann and Zingano shouldn't be able to last longer with rousey. It really is the Tyson factor of them mentally defeating themselves before they get into the octagon.

**Nash Diesel** · March 3rd, 2015, 5:17 PM

I was reading someone's post on another site and they were talking about how Cat did the same exact thing in her last fight, where she bullrushed Brock Lesnar style and got tossed and beat up in the first round. It could be the Tyson factor or Rousey is just that much ahead of the curve.

It's hard to fuck with that base she has which is something a lot of female fighters don't have period, a base style. You hear a lot of these girls either started training MMA directly or maybe they wrestled or were in karate but the latter is few and far between. Rousey is someone who again I don't really like her outside of the cage with how she carries herself in certain situations but oh well, I'm sure she wouldn't like me either lol. But what she does in the cage is just remarkable.

But I do agree in a way it could be mental for the most part, like they just overthink their gameplan, they don't have the confidence, or they let their emotions get the best of them (like the first time Tate fought her).

**Seanny One Ball** · March 3rd, 2015, 6:28 PM

She'll do a Karo and grt found out then decline into drug use and coffee cup sized staph infections.
Then she'll move to Bellator and fight Phil Baroni.

**Nash Diesel** · March 3rd, 2015, 6:36 PM

Ronda's first loss, IMO, will be when she becomes too comfortable and someone Chris Weidman's her. That probably won't be for another 2-3 years, but trust me that's how these greats start falling off. GSP, Anderson, when they became too comfortable, they started either losing or almost losing and getting their ass beat. When the supreme challenges stop, and you're just facing whoever they throw at you and you are super confident in your skills but the drive isn't there like it was 2-3 years prior, that's when the shit hits the fan. Who knows, Ronda may never lose and she'll retire undefeated and maybe come out of retirement when she's 35 and maybe lose then Idk.

**Seanny One Ball** · March 3rd, 2015, 11:03 PM

That went from a solid point to fence sitting in a flawlessly political stream.

**Mik** · March 4th, 2015, 11:45 AM

I dont think that GSP ever became too comfortable. The sport evolves. You spend years becoming the best and getting success by training a certain way and fighting a certain way. You maybe train for 16 years before you are a top level MMA fighter, starting with whatever discipline you start in. The way you train and the way you fight is ingrained into you and but for slight tweaks here and there you cannot change things, you cannot overhaul things anyway. Then you spend a couple of years getting to the top, maybe spend a year or two on the top in most cases. In that time, someone has been training 2-4 years advanced from the way you have been training, the game has evolved. The last few years of their training might have been to literally find improvements on the game that has made you so successful. It is just evolution. There are very VERY few sports where people havent improved at them as time has progressed. But there are very VERY few fighters who can improve when they've already reached their pinnacle. We thought that Anderson Silva was as good as a fighter can get and he might well have been at the time, but Jon Jones has undoubtedly improved on that...as a physical specimen but also with his ability to do most of the things that Silva does well to close to Silva's ability (his power isnt as good as Silva for example), but by being significantly stronger than Silva on his weaknesses (Wrestling...age...).

Some of these athlete's are so far ahead of the curve that the game might well not catch them up by the time they are finished, but not many. I think that Jon Jones might not be beat as a light heavyweight if he handles Rumble the way he has everyone else so far (I've spoken a lot about Gus in the past, but I think that Jones is improving more than Gus is, I do think that styles make fights and Jones has never dealt with fighting someone with Gus' particular size, range and skill set before, so they would always be fairly closely matched). I think that Rousey is so far ahead of the curve that there might well be nobody that beats her before she retires (she might take a Matt Serra/GSP type loss from a heavy hitter, but it'd be tough to beat her best out of 3), the exception from that would be if there's someone with an even better base (a monster Judo gold medalist) who is young enough to transition over and be stronger than Rousey, who also takes to MMA and a striking discipline well, who picks it up quickly AND who gets to Rousey's level before Ronda retires...so maybe 3 years? I dont think thats too likely to happen.

Weidman may well be in the same boat. But he's nowhere near cleaning out that division yet. That division might have even evolved beyond Silva in his absence. I cant say for sure without seeing it, but there are maybe 4 or 5 fighters that look like they could beat Silva in a division where 2 years ago there seemed like there wasnt anyone.

Its one of the reasons why seeing a George Foreman happens incredibly rarely. How often does someone retire young enough that they could realistically come back, then they do come back and they are still at the same level as the current top level? Not often.

**Mark Hammer** · March 4th, 2015, 11:59 AM

I don't agree with any of that. What happened to GSP was two blown ACL's and many years of training an exhaustive schedule while fighting the best fighters in the world.

If we're talking GSP's peak where he wasn't finishing anybody: if you're capable of 50-43'ing someone with absolute ease then you are capable of stopping them. And I'm a huge GSP fan. GSP didn't get "comfortable", nor did the fighters all of a sudden become closer to his level. He adapted a safe style that worked for years but his body is gradually beginning to fail him. That was a shell that fought Hendricks.

**Nash Diesel** · March 4th, 2015, 12:14 PM

With GSP it wasn't like he was getting too comfortable and phoning it in. I think that he became too comfortable in that grinding style where he didn't really try to finish anyone and it worked but as time went on, going 5 rounds took a toll on his body as opposed to say if he was more violent and went for the finish more often and got the finish more often..... Maybe I'm not explaining it properly. With Ronda I feel like she'll be at her "weakest" when MMA doesn't become a challenge for her. But then again, riding the fence lol, she may never lose the drive to be the best period. Not just in MMA but whatever she does because that's what has been beaten into her head since she was a child.

**Seanny One Ball** · March 4th, 2015, 2:14 PM

When George Foreman came back he lucky punched his way to an irrelevant title. Don't give his comeback "The Fighter" treatment, there were losses in there too.

**Bert** · March 4th, 2015, 4:44 PM

From what I know about Ronda Rousey and the way her mother trained her from a young age I don't think she's ever going to lose that drive.

**Nash Diesel** · March 4th, 2015, 5:08 PM

Originally Posted by Bert

From what I know about Ronda Rousey and the way her mother trained her from a young age I don't think she's ever going to lose that drive.

That's pretty much how I feel and I think that's what really seperates her from the other fighters in her division.

**Seanny One Ball** · March 4th, 2015, 5:56 PM

I still prefer Meisha

**Nash Diesel** · March 4th, 2015, 6:03 PM

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball

I still prefer Meisha

Well yeah same here man but that's a totally different discussion. Although I do think that if there's anyone I'd want to give Rousey her first loss it would be Tate.

**Seanny One Ball** · March 4th, 2015, 6:27 PM

If she could take her down for a while it'd be a good start.

**sam_elmendorf** · March 4th, 2015, 7:33 PM

The way Rousey is, I think she is going to be undefeated until she decides to walk away from the fight. She has too much under her belt that the other girls lack, and unless there is a 17-18 year old right now that has had the same upbringing and training, Rousey is going to be the top dog til she retires.

What I mean by 17-18 year olds, none of the girls in the sport right now, have what Ronda has. And unless some new up and comer with the same kinda background as Rousey comes in out of no where, Rousey is it. Rousey is the boss til she decides she's done.

**Mark Hammer** · March 4th, 2015, 7:35 PM

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball

I still prefer Meisha

Rousey < Meisha < Randa Markos

**Mark Hammer** · March 4th, 2015, 9:45 PM

**Nash Diesel** · March 17th, 2015, 11:56 AM

So who do we see Rousey's next challenger being? I think one upside to Rousey's ability to finish a fight early is that it doesn't 100% clear out the division. It'd be like saying just because Cain V got caught in a minute that he didn't deserve another chance at the HW strap. But who is on the horizon of getting that shot?

There are a lot of fights you could make leading to the next challenger down the road. I personally wouldn't mind seeing Tate v. Kauffman 2. I don't know if it's time for another Tate-Rousey fight though. Kauffman's been out for a little while but she hasn't fought Rousey since Strikeforce but again, Idk if the result will be any different. And the other hard part is Rousey is still relevant, barely in her prime, so making "freak show" fights like v. Gina Carano seems pointless BUT doing something like Rousey v. Ali is even worse lol. Bethe Correia is a little ways down the ladder, she might need a couple wins over the likes of Tate, Cat, Davis, before getting the call. Then again, we've seen lesser ranked fighters get title shots when the champion has cleaned out the top 5-10.

Now might be another "perfect time" to look at Rousey v. Cyborg. No belt. Just a superfight. Do this fight while waiting for another challenger, a solid challenger. It won't happen, it's a fucking dream, but there's every excuse in the book from Rousey's side. I mean if everyone used the "they tested positive" argument we wouldn't even have fights because it seems like every other fighter has failed a piss test in some way lol.

**Mark Hammer** · March 17th, 2015, 12:01 PM

It'll be either Holly Holm or Beitch Correira (sp). Two girls who belong nowhere near the cage with Rousey but are the only viable options.

And honestly, assuming Ali gets some half-decent grappling training, that fight would be much, much more ideal than the aforementioned two. Still technically a "freakshow" fight though since Ali is 0-0 MMA and more of a sports celebrity than a respected sports player.

**Mark Hammer** · March 17th, 2015, 12:05 PM

And regarding your comment that Rousey has "every excuse in the book" not to fight Cyborg, I think the fact that Cyborg has never made 135 and probably can't thanks to all that roid meat is a legitimate excuse for Rousey's camp to tell her to fuck off.

**Nash Diesel** · March 17th, 2015, 1:22 PM

Like I said in the Bellator thread, personally I think this fight is beyond a title. I think it's funny that Rousey is willing to throw down with Gina Carano, inactive for 5+ years, and Ali, inactive for 8+ years, yet won't fight Cyborg, won't even TEASE the idea of fighting her. The only way Cyborg will get this fight is if she cuts to 135, wins the Invicta strap, defends it at least once, gets signed by the UFC, beats whoever the top 2 under Rousey are, and THEN she will get the fight...assuming Ronda is even around by then. That's why the title shouldn't even be a factor, and it's really not when you think about it. Why would Cyborg want to fight Rousey FOR THE BELT at a catchweight knowing full well the title can't be on the line unless it's at 135? Why is Rousey willing to fight larger fighters like Gina and Ali, Gina who fought at 145 and struggled to even make that and Ali who was a middleweight in boxing at 170-175 I believe, but not Cybrog? Because of one failed PED test? So that means that she's not going to fight Ashlee Evans-Smith either? It's whatever really, the fight won't happen until nobody gives a shit about it as strongly, like Iceman v. Wanderlai.

**Mark Hammer** · March 17th, 2015, 1:30 PM

As soon as Cyborg makes 135 one time and wins they will book her vs Rousey. 100% guaranteed.

Also why criticize Rousey for not wanting to fight an artificial man?

**Nash Diesel** · March 17th, 2015, 1:38 PM

Originally Posted by Sir Markus Hammer

As soon as Cyborg makes 135 one time and wins they will book her vs Rousey. 100% guaranteed.

Also why criticize Rousey for not wanting to fight an artificial man?

Didn't Rousey say she could beat any man? We can just leave it at that lol. I mean I get the jokes, we're going on what, 5 years now since that failed test lol....If that's literally the only excuse people can use and have jokes about it, that's cool, but it still doesn't take away from the fact that Cyborg has been wanting to fight Ronda since she (Rousey) was in the same division. But she took a chance at 135 and it's paid off. I wonder had she taken the fight with Cyborg back then at 145 how her career would have turned out if she lost in brutal fashion like everyone else who fights Cyborg does.

**Mik** · March 18th, 2015, 5:21 AM

I think that a good striker with a good game plan like Holly Holm could give a better fight to Rousey. You need to be able to strike with her at arm's length. It needs a counter puncher who can move and circle and not get caught in a clinch. Everyone lately seems to want to run straight into Rousey's arms.

Now, I think that Holm would get dominated. But if she can gameplan and stick to her strengths and stay away from Rousey's throw I'd say that she has a better chance than anyone else at the moment.

**Nash Diesel** · March 18th, 2015, 10:28 AM

It wouldn't hurt if more women fighters had KO power. You see TKO finishes, but you rarely see a female get knocked out.

**Mark Hammer** · March 18th, 2015, 11:34 AM

Yeah, I'd like to see some birds get knocked stiff.

**Nash Diesel** · March 18th, 2015, 4:52 PM

I mean I know it's there, I saw Miesha Tate get Cro Cop'd early in her career, but I mean shit even a beast like Cyborg isn't knocking out anyone cold. The last true knockout I saw in WMMA was Sarah Kauffman knocking out Roxy Modeferi in Strikeforce with a Matt Hughes style slam. I might not remember any after it but that one stands out and it wasn't even a punch. I get that the smaller weight classes tend to not have as many true knockout finishes. That's what will stop Ronda though, someone with serious punching power who can catch her slipping and crack her jaw into oblivion.

**The Law** · March 20th, 2015, 4:10 PM

Alright, so she's fighting Bethe Correia in August down in Brazil. I've never seen Correia fight, so I don't have much to say other than that it's a smart piece of booking to have Rousey fight in a hostile environment.

**Mark Hammer** · March 20th, 2015, 4:23 PM

Busted face... but dat ass doe.

**The Law** · March 20th, 2015, 4:34 PM

That's a Lana booty right there. If she manages to hit Ronda with that ass she might knock her out.

**Bert** · March 20th, 2015, 5:29 PM

Cankles.

**The Rogerer** · March 21st, 2015, 3:57 AM

You don't know the meaning of the word

**kangus** · March 21st, 2015, 4:13 AM

The Rogerer! What brings you to these here parts?

**MikeHunt** · March 21st, 2015, 4:35 AM

what a ride

**The Rogerer** · March 21st, 2015, 6:11 AM

I'm the conscience of rajah

**The_Mike** · March 21st, 2015, 11:24 AM

He has a top hat and a little umbrella and everything.

**Mark Hammer** · March 21st, 2015, 3:22 PM

Originally Posted by kangus

The Rogerer! What brings you to these here parts?

What brings you here? I thought my antics chased you away, at least that what you announced to everyone.

**Mark Hammer** · March 21st, 2015, 3:24 PM

Bethe, terrific bottom half and all, stands no chance vs Rousey. Her entire game is about getting in close, clinching, etc... making it easy for Rousey to toss her to the ground and submit her in the first round.

The weigh-ins for this should be good, both girls perform well at these.

**Nash Diesel** · March 24th, 2015, 10:26 AM

Bethe could be the TJ Dillashaw of this fight. Lower half of the top 10 getting a title shot simply because there's no one really left. Do I see it happening? No. Bethe's style plays right into Rousey's biggest strength.

I just want Cyborg v. Rousey. Reading a recent interview with Ronda's trainer Edmond, talking about how Gina Carano, 5-6 years removed from the sport, saying she's more of a challenge than Cyborg is just mind blowing. Catchweight superfight, RRR was willing to do it for Gina, she'd be willing to do it I bet for any female fighter other than the only fighter people have wanted to see her fight for a few years and all she can go off of is a failed drug test from 5 years ago. If I were Ronda, that'd be the challenge. Silence the critics, put a beating on Cyborg, and show that PEDs don't win fights. Idk, just not very interested in a single fight this chick has when it's clear that she is 100x better than the best of her division.

It just says a lot when you're seeing these competitive bouts between the top 10 but the champion just demolishes them. Would Cyborg be any different? Who knows...

**Mark Hammer** · March 24th, 2015, 12:17 PM

Well I hate to be the one to introduce pesky facts into the picture but it is actually Cyborg who has been ducking Rousey for years. I could butcher the explanation myself but this guy put it well and even included some links:

Originally Posted by clayj

Here you go, it is actually Cyborg who has run/ducked and made this fight not happen

Ronda isn't scared. It is pretty obvious that Cyborg is the reason the fight hasn't happened. She has ducked/ran, lied and changed her mind a hundred times about nearly everything you can think of over the last four years to the point that nothing she says or does can be taken seriously.

First, the histry of Ronda going to 135 is outlined in this historical sherdog thread:

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/92583821-post954.html

Then, what happend next was that Ronda beat Budd and Cyborg got busted for steroids. Ronda still agrees to fight Cyborg at 145 (According to Cyborg and her lawyers) for the FW title. However, with Cyborg unable to get her suspension reduced SF gets rid of the 145 class, effectively cancelling the fight (Cyborg's ruins the fight #1).
http://www.mmamania.com/2012/4/9/293...sey-female-mma

Cyborg then says she will fight Ronda at a catchweight of 140 (Aug 13, 2012)
http://www.mmamania.com/2012/8/13/32...ht-catchweight

To which Ronda's manager agrees with VADA drug and hair folicle testing (Aug 19)
http://www.mmamania.com/2012/8/20/32...trikeforce-mma

To which Cyborg backs out almost instantly saying she "will fight at 145, no less" and that she is the champion (actually she wasn't, she was stripped of the belt), and Cyborg ruins the fight for a second time, and ducks Ronda directly for the first time.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sport...-less/828222/1

Then the UFC buys SF and picks up Ronda's contract and creates the 135 class. Then, the UFC picks up Cyborg's contract and even offers to let her to go Invicta and make money while she trims down until she can make 135. They even offered to PAY Mike Dolce for her to help her lose the weight.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/12/3...5-ronda-rousey
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/12/1...z-ronda-rousey

Cyborg responds by asking to be released from the UFC. (Cyborg ruins the fight #3, Cyborg ducks Ronda #2)

Then, the UFC gets cozy with Invicta, puts them on fightpass and makes an agreement that Cyborg will get into the UFC if she makes 135. Cyborg signs a contract to make 135 in Dec 2014, but continues to lift weights on a daily basis and doesn't even try to cut the weight, pulling out of the fight and saying she will continue to fight at 145, but that she will still fight Ronda at 145, effectively ducking the fight again (duck #3) by not agreeing to the terms that will get her the bout agreement

This doesn't even take into account all the times Cyborg says she is going to 135, then she will die if she does, then she will be fine, then dead again ... etc.

Here is Cyborg weighing in at 140

http://www.mmaontap.com/mma/entry/el...igh-in-results

she doesn't exactly look like a concentration camp victim, she is still carrying a ton of muscle mass. She just has to drop five pounds of it and the fight is on. Cyborg is just too psychologically attached/addicted to her muscle mass to let it go. She knows she can keep her name in the headlines by barking at Ronda from a distance, while never having to actually take the fight.

Cyborg has no leverage to dictate the terms. Ronda is going nowhere, she is a stationary target, if Cyborg wants the fight, she knows where she has to go to get it.

The day before her Invicta weigh-in against Tweet, Cyborg said she could "make 140 tomorrow"
http://mmajunkie.com/2015/02/cyborg-...ounds-tomorrow

but since she says she currently walks around at 175

that means she is saying she can fight at a weight 35 pounds below her walkaround weight, but claimed it was physically impossible, and maybe even fatal, if she tried to cut from her walkaround weight of 160 (see video above) down to 135 back when she asked to be released from the UFC, even though that is only 25 pounds. The only conclusion was that she JUST DIDN'T WANT THE FIGHT, since she could have clearly cut the weight.

So lose five pounds of muscle from where you were before and make the fight. The UFC wasn't willing to make a catchweight fight for Carano ("White made it clear that if such a fight would happen, it would have to occur at 135 pounds."), so they sure aren't going to make one for you.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/4/9/...mmediate-title

Quit running, or does she only want to fight with a huge weight advantage where she can alter the scale to make weight? Complete lack of class and sportsmanship.

http://www.mmaweekly.com/details-of-...-controversy-2

Ronda's not going anywhere. If Cyborg wants the fight, she knows what she has to do. Make the weight she once said she would agree to make, stop expecting the champion to cater to her, and shut the fuck up.

**Nash Diesel** · March 24th, 2015, 12:52 PM

A Brazillian managed by Tito Ortiz, what do you expect?

**sam_elmendorf** · April 4th, 2015, 6:48 PM

sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/wal-mart-won-t-sell-ronda-rousey-s-new-book-because-she-s-too-violent-180144157.html

This is funny. Only because of what their excuse is to not to sell it in stores. They sell guns and ammo. They sell violent movies. They even sell UFC DVDs. At least the ones here in sunny Southern California do. I actually like Wally World because the prices are good, but this is just plain stupid silly for them not to sell this book in stores. They do have it on their web-site though, which makes it even more sillier.

**Mark Hammer** · April 4th, 2015, 8:43 PM

Walmart keeping it real like it's 1992. UFC is human cockfighting.

**Mark Hammer** · April 4th, 2015, 8:44 PM

Although in fairness, a book? Ronda's barely in her mid 20s. Quite an ego on her.

**Nash Diesel** · April 6th, 2015, 9:35 AM

She's lived more of a life than people 3 times her age.

**Mark Hammer** · April 6th, 2015, 1:08 PM

Originally Posted by Nash Diesel

She's lived more of a life than people 3 times her age.

Just because she's been awarded a few more luxuries than your average joe? She's too young for an autobiography imho regardless of what she's had handed to her on a silver platter in her lifetime.

**Nash Diesel** · April 6th, 2015, 1:12 PM

Originally Posted by Sir Markus Hammer

Just because she's been awarded a few more luxuries than your average joe? She's too young for an autobiography imho regardless of what she's had handed to her on a silver platter in her lifetime.

She's 28 and I'm sure there are a lot of famous athletes who have had autobiographies released even younger than that. The Rock had one when he was 25.....I doubt it's a 1,000 page book but shit I'd read it if I had the time for sure. And please tell me what she's had HANDED to her on a silver platter? None of her accomplishments were handed to her, she didn't walk in and get handed an olympic medal, she didn't get handed victories over the top female fighters that she's rinsed with ease.

**OD50** · April 6th, 2015, 1:35 PM

Zlatan was like 29 when he released his 400 something page autobiography. I'm sure RRR can fill hers with stuff about being bullied, Judo, her crazy mom, dad dying, Olympics, working as a waitress, MMA, UFC, Hollywood etc.. Dumb ass sheeple buy any shit these days as long as it features celebrities anyway.

**Nash Diesel** · April 6th, 2015, 1:40 PM

And I think there are people, probably a lot of females, who are inspired by someone like Ronda Rousey and would find her story interesting. I'm not a big fan but I don't know much about her life, I didn't know her dad died, I don't know much about her pre-Strikeforce. I'd be curious to know how she wound up getting Judo Gene to corner her and yeah in this day and age the obvious answer is to just look it up online but again her story is interesting imo.

**Mark Hammer** · April 6th, 2015, 1:48 PM

Originally Posted by Nash Diesel

She's 28 and I'm sure there are a lot of famous athletes who have had autobiographies released even younger than that. The Rock had one when he was 25.....I doubt it's a 1,000 page book but shit I'd read it if I had the time for sure. And please tell me what she's had HANDED to her on a silver platter? None of her accomplishments were handed to her, she didn't walk in and get handed an olympic medal, she didn't get handed victories over the top female fighters that she's rinsed with ease.

She was handed a martial artist mother who forced her to practice Judo for one.

Wrestlemania 31 spotlight with Rock, Triple H, and Stephanie is a big one.

Hollywood movie roles when she can't act.

etc.

**Nash Diesel** · April 6th, 2015, 2:04 PM

Originally Posted by Sir Markus Hammer

She was handed a martial artist mother who forced her to practice Judo for one.

Wrestlemania 31 spotlight with Rock, Triple H, and Stephanie is a big one.

Hollywood movie roles when she can't act.

etc.

LOL @ that first part. Come on dude seriously? You need to take that up with God or whoever.

WM 31 spotlight handed to her? More like the WWE reaching out to HER for what SHE has accomplished. They didn't take Shayna Bazler in the ring for a reason homeboy.

Hollywood is littered with actors who can't act that have succesful careers. Vin Diesel I'm looking at you

You are seriously reaching on these examples, entertaining for sure, but come on, don't be a hater. You have to respect her accomplishments, she wasn't HANDED anything. She is where she is at because of what she accomplished in the Olympics and in MMA. Without those 2 things she's just the daughter of a bad ass female Judokan. And again, what disqualifies her from releasing a book? Her age?

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