Chicago would be possible but it seems that it would be better to start after the reset button the wrestlemania essentially is.
Chicago would be possible but it seems that it would be better to start after the reset button the wrestlemania essentially is.
I completely agree with you, MikeHunt. A very lucid point.
Plus he's not supposed to work this year's WM anyway, so have him challenge Taker the night after and you have the year long build hoopla.
It also gives them both a year to get in shape so Sting isn't wearing a fuck t-shirt, and it can be Taker's last match.
as long as that shirt isn't tucked i'm sure he would get away with it.
Fuck that. Not for Wrestlemania. Not for The Phenom vs The Icon. It can't be done that way.
as long as its not tucked
I also think they won't bring in Sting until after WrestleMania. You have so many guys now like Hogan and Warrior, there isn't a need for the WWE to blow their wad in one night by bringing Sting in too.
Like some have said, bring Sting back the night after or start teasing it with vignettes. He needs to tone himself up. He doesn't have to be buff or ripped, but enough so that he won't have to wear a t-shirt.
We're already in February. April isn't too far away. I'd rather they wait on Sting when he signs instead of rushing him out there.
Goldberg debuted with WWE the night after WrestleMania. Am I wrong in remembering they ran a vignette for him on the Mania PPV itself? Could see the same thing happening with Sting.
I would cack my wack if that happened.
Seriously.
Undertaker's in the ring on Raw after winning a hard fought match with Brock at WrestleMania.
Sting enters.
Baseball bat point.
Throat slit gesture.
I plunk down money.
Tell you what would be a markout moment - Lesnar vs. Undertaker at WrestleMania, eight druids come down to the ring during the match with a casket. They position it ringside and surround the ring. Then one of the druids jumps on the apron, pulls down the hood, and there's Sting.
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nah.Originally Posted by Venom_Axe
Best believe...
Well what would he do for the rest of the match? Just stand there and look spooky?
As I've noted before, the Undertaker isn't in the best of physical condition so the last couple of years it's been touch-and-go as to whether he'll be working Mania. So announcing it a year in advance isn't a great idea. Plus, doing that for Rock-Cena didn't really work out as well as it should have.
Here's my question, does Sting v. Undertaker have to happen at WrestleMania? Would they be able to talk Undertaker into working Summerslam? Sting's what, 53? It really seems like the only reason to bring in Sting at this stage in his career is to have him work against The Undertaker. Yesterday WWE posted a nice piece about Sting's history, and over the last couple years they've had a lot of DVD's with Sting matches on them, so I think even the fans who might not have grown up with him are getting familiar with him.
So I'm sitting here wondering what would prevent the WWE from having them throw down at Summerslam? No one is going to believe for a second Sting is going to end the streak, and the WWE should be booking Undertaker against guys who the fans might believe will end the streak. Even it's only a minimal amount of faith they can do it lol.
I'd say the Undertaker has earned the right to say when he wants to work and I don't blame him if it's only at WrestleMania. To his credit, he stayed around an extra few weeks and even went on the European tour. If WWE wants it to be a big match, it needs a bit of build even if not a whole year.
If he feels up to working at SummerSlam (or anywhere else since buyrates will not matter in the same way with the launch of the Network), it might be a good idea to do a match with Sting there. Ultimately, I do think Taker would still win but at least there would be an element of doubt.
no. it's a silly way to debut him. what's the point of the casket if sting is going to be a druid? it's never been in sting's character to 'hide' himself. having him implant himself into taker's gimmick as his 'debut' makes no sense. why is any of that a 'mark out moment?' there's literally a dozen better ways to introduce sting than that.
Plus, it's been done before as recently as last year with Punk attacking him.
Druids should also be semi-Sting with face masks. Feel free to neg rep me.
If WWE had it's way, they'd have Sting debut by stalking Michelle for a while, then have him come to the ring wearing a hood....
I'd say have Undertaker defeat whoever at mania and during his celebration the lights go out.. Then we get a spotlight on Sting somewhere high up in the dome pointing at taker with the bat. Then they can have some non-physical interactions until they wrestle at SummerSlam, Like ND said nobody in their right mind or over the age of 7 would buy Sting ending the WM streak, at SS there would at least be some doubt to who would win. Maybe have Sting win at SS and have the rematch at WM31 (streak vs. career or something).
Wouldn't be a bad idea except for how doubtful it is that Taker will be able to do a match again that soon after. But you never know. Wouldn't be as gruelling as recent years that's for sure.
For sure, takers health would dictate if it could work out. Last year he wrestled Ambrose not too long after that gruelling Punk match so you never know. He would have about four months between mania and SS to recover and I'm not sure his WM match will be nearly as damaging this year as the HBK/HHH/Punk series. If he doesn't end up with Lesnar that is, then he will probably lay in his bed until WM31.
Indeed. If not hang them up altogether.
Sting's first appearance has to, and I mean is the only bloody option, be a surprise.
Yes, building it up with packages would mean the audience at home would be better prepared, but to get the maximum impact from it, as has been noted earlier, it should be done the night after WM in front of a smart crowd who will go ape shit for him.
I wanted Sting/Taker this year, but I've come around, it would be jumping the gun.
At this stage, Taker seems to have complete control over when he wrestles - given his age and physical condition, that's only right. He stayed around for a few weeks after WrestleMania 29 so a match about four months maybe isn't totally out of the question. But it's obviously totally dependent on him. The danger with building to a match too far in advance is that Taker might not be physically able when the time comes round. I'm not saying to rush into a match with Sting but starting the build in April for a match in August might not be a great idea.
Better to take the time to educate WWE fans who Sting is then sort out a WM 31 opponent for him in early 2015. He might have 2-3 other big matches along the way, of course.
Ric Flair was booked on two Revolution Pro Wrestling events in the UK in mid-March. With his new deal, WWE has the right to have him cancel any outside appearances. These two have now been cancelled.
Interestingly, his replacement is Sting. This could, but doesn't necessarily, mean Sting has not signed with WWE.
Source: Wrestlinginc.com
Couldn't Sting have a contract with WWE that allows him to wrestle prior to his on-screen return? I'm assuming Sting is most likely conditioning for his return.
I also would not mind "The Crow" Sting return. Up in the rafters, coming down and making a big splash and taking out Taker at some point.
While it would be cool do we really think the wwe is going to stick anyone in the rafters again?
Not a chance.
A man can dream can't he?
Maybe the TitanTron?
Haha, or he can just walk down the ramp.
"Come down from the rafters" and "make a big splash"? Too soon.
He can use Barrett's podium.
And Barrett's gavel.
Will it be high enough?
I want Sting to come back on the condition he does his '97 gimmick. Theme. Attire. Everything.
I think it'd be hilarious if Sting came back full on neon early 90's surfer dude Sting.
That would be the shit.
All the talk of Sting and WWE has really died down within the last week or so - hope it's not ruled out.
Certainly highly doubtful he'll have a match at Mania now. He could still make an appearance though, along the lines of what you guys have been mooting.
Yeah it has been rumored that he won't return until after Mania anyway. The WWE needs to focus on putting this card together first.
If he's signed a contract they should spend the next 5 weeks teasing a return for him to debut at WrestleMania after The Undertaker's match.
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If he has signed, or is going to sign, hold him off until after WM and let Taker have his moment with Brock and then head back home. I think you could have Sting come in and work with some of the smaller players on the roster, all the while having a certain Phenom/Icon feel to his persona and promos. That way, the groundwork is laid for his character to have an epic showdown with the WWE's Phenom, but it also does not immediately tie him at the hip to Taker in the event that Taker can't go at XXXI. Yes, Sting coming in and not ever facing Taker would be a disappointment to most, but if Taker can't go, a 9-12 month exposure to Sting with a HOF induction in California would still be a pretty good send off for him.
I think announcing Taker-Sting a year in advance would be a mistake. Better to have Sting establish himself in WWE before his showdown with Taker.
Maybe not announced since there would be much risk of possibly disappointing the fans if some variable occurred. But the WWE would do well to have an idea of their WrestleMania card at least a few months in advance which cearly hasn't been the case for a couple of years now.
Sting would probably need to be established before he is brought. No doubt WWE already has the wheels turning on a Sting DVD but I would think he would need to work with a strong mid card talent at first. Dolph immediately springs to mind but I am sure there are a few good heels that could pull the good match out of him and put him over for a bit. Obviously this would be done to build to Mania and after the big Taker/Sting showdown I reckon Sting could go about and return the favor.
I would honestly prefer to see Sting and Taker do a showdown in the rumble ala Warrior and Hogan. Have Taker in there for a bit with several guys (perhaps all 3 wyatts), Sting comes in and they clear house only to turn around and have a stare down.
Right about the time they get ready to come to blows the Wyatts come in and their surprise attack leaves on of them, if not both, eliminated. If Taker is up to it they could do a nice little mini feud with Sting and Taker vs the Wyatts.
Kane, Sting, The Undertaker vs. Wyatts
Last night, Sting appeared for a Q&A at an event in London, England.
He said he wants to face the Undertaker in his final match rather than anyone else in WWE or independent promotions. He said he's been on YouTube watching Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels matches.
He said he hasn't watched TNA since he left but has "purposefully" been watching Raw in recent weeks.
Pretty much a "let me run my tits off so I can look decent next year" plea from the big man.
they need to make it happen. sting isn't a WWE guy, but he's such a legend that they have to send him off right, especially, if he respects them and the undertaker enough to want it.
If he's agreed to a contract that's not a sign, more a signal.
The hints are there that Sting has agreed to sign with WWE but nothing is confirmed yet. It may not be until he appears on WWE television, maybe the night after WrestleMania.
I'm pretty sure Sting's WWE arrival will be this year's Post Wrestlemania Raw Moment.
It's going to be amazing seeing Sting in the WWE.
I'm still just very curious who's going to know who he is.
The smarky post-WM RAW is obviously the best place to debut him, though. Just have the Undertaker there and have Sting appear and silently point a baseball bat at the Wrestlemania sign. Boom, done. Easy.
Besides the obvious health concerns for Taker. Does anybody think it would be smart business for WWE to promote a year long build for this 2 considering their not mainstream powerhouses like Rock and Cena? I mean as legendary and iconic as Taker is he's role has always been that of a cornerstone and a mystical presence but not THE FACE of the company much less a Hollywood star. Then there's Sting likely unknown by most of the current audience which I would think make's it even tougher for WWE to hype their flagship event around him, at least right off the bat.
As a lifelong fan I'm certain that the moment this 2 stare each other down for the first time may in fact be one of the biggest mark out instances I'll ever experience. The same could be said about most of the IWC/smark demographic. But how much can the E realistically profit from it?
On a side Note, I predict a face reaction for Bray Wyatt at this year's PW Raw.
The current audience is still a fuck load of people that know who Sting is.
given the negatives you just lined out, how does a year long build hurt it, exactly? it allows them to establish everything/everyone before the fact instead of rushing it. they can give everybody a course on sting/wcw.
Any wrestling fan who doesn't know who Sting is should be stabbed in the face...
WWE should hire people who go around the arena before each show, ask people to identify a picture of Sting, and then stab the people who don't know in the face...
It's very important that these people they hire aim for the eye sockets as there's less resistance going to the brain when they stab them in the face...
I'm under the impression that one of the main reasons they did a year long build for Cena/Rock was due to the fact that they are both huge with the media and thus the 1 year hype would warrant the mainstream exposure wwe usually crave's. I'm not sure they can pull off the same marketing scheme with Taker/Sting who are both incredibly huge in their own right but not at the level of Cena and The Rock pop culture wise.
I could see the crowd wearing sheep masks for post mania raw
The year long build for Cena vs Rock didn't really work as WWE hoped it would; it was hard to keep interest up while Rock was away and Cena was doing other things.
Much better to have Sting debut with no interaction with Taker then spend time explaining to WWE fans who he is, with a couple of big matches this year.
That's truth, Sting would have to be introduced to WWE fans, Bill Casey's stabbing people in the face fantasies aside.
I'm sure the Network will play into that, but WCW has been dead for over a decade so even if you're a 16 year old fan now you never knew WCW, no one knows TNA exists and normal fans aren't weirdos who post about wrestling on the internet all excited about The Phenom vs The Icon.
It's really something that should have happened ten years ago, but I'll be fucked if I'm not excited at the prospect of it just because.
just please don't put a microphone in his hand
Just having Sting appear from the rafters to face Taker would be such an easy Mania build but to do it a year in advance would be risky as they would need to keep Sting relevant for a year which would mean putting a 55 year old guy over a lot of younger talent. If they did the face off build just do it next February perhaps.
Also Taker has only a certain amount of matches left in him and the WWE would probably want to ensure they do Taker vs Cena and Taker vs Bryan before they did Taker vs Sting at Mania. If Taker comes out of the Brock match sound then could they maybe do Taker vs Sting at Summerslam I wonder. Also next year will be Taker's 25th anniversary in the WWE so perhaps he does a match at Survivor Series to mark his debut.
No one is going to drop from the ceiling on a show promoted by WWE for obvious reasons.
I think a major problem with the year-long buildup between Cena and Rock was the Summer of Punk. A few months after the match was announced, it almost looked like Cena wasn't going to be the top guy anymore, which would've negated the principle that the match was sold on. Sting and Taker are already living legends so I don't see that being a problem.
I like the idea of a big match for Taker's 25th anniversary in WWE - especially as he was written off of TV right before the 20th.
Taker had an injury in autumn 2010 which meant he had to be written out I recall, the 25th anniversary match just seems a logical idea to me as it gives them a legit reason to promote a 2nd Taker match that year.
The WWE could use Sting on the network and have him on the panels then maybe have someone challenge him to a match. Personally I'd like to see a younger talent go against Sting as it could elevate them but logically they might do HHH vs Sting, Cena vs Sting etc.
I also just don't see Sting wanting to work a full WWE schedule so might he have a limited contract maybe PPV's and TV only.
He'll definitely not be working a full schedule but I'm sure he will do a few PPVs throughout the year.
Not getting excited about this t-shirt wanker just yet.
It's a big leather coat or you can just fucking forget it.
Well, he'll certainly not be wearing a TNA T-shirt
If he gets in better shape I'm sure he will wear his old gear and the trenchcoat. Either that or be returns as "surfer Sting" with the short, blond hair...
He had that span in WCW where he wore a full "bodysuit" of sorts that did not look absolutely horrible...much better than a tshirt at least...Maybe he could get himself back into a bit better shape and use that old gear and look fine after losing the trenchcoat for matches.
He'll be absolutely fine and t-shirtless, guaranteed.
I'm excited to find out what music they will pick for him. The WWE generally picks excellent music to strike the mood of the characters coming to the ring.
Man the Crow theme is the only way to go with the music in my view. Imagine that intro (with or without girl monologue) with Taker standing in the middle of the ring.
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If Vince wants to fork over the money for that. I feel like Jim Johnston is more than up for the challenge though.
Yeah, I reckon they'll just make something new for him.
Pretty sure the monologue is by Sting's son.
Don't they own the rights to that theme?
Lol in 17 years I've never even considered it to be a boy. Quite the wake up call.
Pretty sure they will, yep.
Just the way I would do it... Allow Taker/Brock kick ass for 20 minutes have the lights go out... Send a coated up Ziggler to the ring. die his hair, put him in a mask etc.. Have him knock both guys out with a bat, and have Taker laying atop a dead Brock, Taker gets the 1-2-3... Brock doesn't get beat out right, Taker doesn't lose the streak... Maybe leave a sign of Sting's presence, and then go from there. Sting wants Taker, but he wants an undefeated Taker.
That idea is awful.
So, you want to bring Sting in by making Taker look like shit?
Taker looks like shit by getting blindsided? Um no... Normally I'd hate the idea too but pitting Taker vs. Lesnar is a stupid booking decision in the first place. If the match was main event it would be even worse.
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Wait a moment guys, who are you to doubt El_Dandy?
How does someone beating up Taker's opponent so he can face an undefeated Undertaker next year not make him look like shit?
And what is the point of dressing up Ziggler?
That's just a bad idea all around.
babumtish
Why? I'm having trouble thinking of any other viable opponent this year. Granted I would've loved it to be Cena but every year it seem's more apparent that their saving him for last. With WM 32 officialy announced for Cowboys Stadium it makes a shitload of sense for them to face off there in front of 90-100,000 people. So now he'll face a true beast that has destroyed his past 2 Wrestlemania opponents and hold's a Hell in a Cell victoy over him. Not to mention their real life beef or whatever plus Heyman's mic work. I think this match will exceed both Triple H matches in terms of violence and that's saying a lot.
Because Lesnar is damaged goods. If he rolled past Cena, HHH and Punk then he would be one of the greatest threats to the Streak. Now, he is random partner who is going to do the J-O-B. Heyman being in the feud does nothing for me. He said what he needed to say last year just now we are replacing Punk with Lesnar. If Sting was there then maybe there would be some doubt and the entrances alone would be worth it.
Ok I'm just going to put this under perspective here:
Technically he did not beat Cena but wound up looking like a monster after handing him one of the most ferocious ass kickings in his career which Cena sold to perfection. Triple H beat Taker to the point where he had to be carried out then gave him another run for his money inside Hell in a Cell a year later. A month later in comes Brock and break's Triple H's arm then make's him tap out at Summer Slam by again breaking his arm. Beats Triple H in 2 out of 3 matches and then beats Punk. He comes back and destroys both Mark Henry and the Big Show. How does that work against Lesnar?
As far as Heyman goes I don't recall him getting involved verbally last year because that was all Punk so the fact that he's now doing segments and cutting promos does add an interesting dynamic to the current feud. Sting would've definitely rocked but to this day we still don't know for certain if he's on Vince's payroll so maybe next year. Besides who else is there for Taker to face this year?
I'm sure I'll be into the Taker Lesar match, but I still wish we saw this instead:
Cena vs Taker
Lesnar vs Bryan for WWEWHC
Wyatts vs Shield TLC
HHH vs Punk
Taker's had the best match of the year (or close to it) for almost 10 years running. Why on Earth would anybody want to break that streak for a shitty finish?
Still scratching my head over Ziggler in a mask.
There is a Wrestlecon fan fest on WrestleMania weekend. Sting will be there in the afternoon. It's in New Orleans.
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is wrestlecon not only on the 5th and 6th of april?
There are some people within WWE who are saying that's Sting signed and he will debut at WrestleMania. However, some are denying that is the case. (Source: PWInsider.com)
Pile of shit bollocks twat reports.
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