Awesomeness. So, rather interestingly this one seems to follow on shortly after Oblivion, which is a bit fo a change for the series.
I had no idea this was even coming, so excellent stuff.
I loved Oblivion, loved the tits off it. I was a bigger fan of Morrowind though, which was pretty perfect.
For this one I hope they sort the combat out a bit and make it a bit slicker and a bit more exciting. They should be able to produce some lovely fluid combat by now.
I'd like more voice actors this time too, bigger and more populated cities, NPCs with something to say.
Just the addition of killing blows, backslashes, heads flying off etc would be a massive improvement on the hack at them til they die combat of oblivion.
Apparently the fighting is a lot better in this version, there are specific death moves, weapons have specific benefits, the dagger for instance has been moved to stealth and is deadly in an assassins hands (currently 10x damage for sneak attack).
They're also introducing duel handed fightings, so you can have two weapons, a weapon and a shield, a weapon and a spell, two spells or one spell using both hands that is more powerful but uses more magicka.
My biggest gripe in oblivion was that the stealthy bow characters where useless on the main quest, they're changing that by making bows more powerful but arrows rarer and more expensive.
Yeah, I played an assassin in Oblivion and wasn't much use at anything except slaying civilians/Black Hand targets, which you obviously aren't meant to be doing in the main quest. Once you hit someone with a bow once it was almost impossible to maintain your cover and killing things with arrows took forever. Daggers were useless too, so I'm looking forward to combat improvements. I hope they fix leveling as well - I don't want to finish the main quest, be practically a god, and have to fire thirty arrows into a glass armor wearing bandit before the bastard will die because he's leveled up as much as I have.
Well the sword thing just felt so clunky and repetitive. I tried to get into it, but it just didnt work for me. The bow mechanics seemed much finer tuned.
Its weird you guys had trouble with the bow, because I was killing most thing with one hit when undetected with the bow.
Bow's were fantastic in the caves and the cities and the wilderness, the main quest was a complete pain though because sneak was virtually useless in the plains of oblivion.
I was killing most humans with one hit when sneaking with the bow, but everything else seemed far too strong and took an age to die. And it got worse as I gained levels.
I'm not seeing a huge leap up from Oblivion though.
Here it is on youtube so people can watch it from this thread.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NklZPZFp_zo"]YouTube - The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Trailer[/ame]
I've never been one to care about graphics as long as they were decent, so I don't really have any complaints. It's not like there won't be texture/mod packs for it anyway (for PC, obviously).
The graphics are good enough for me - not quite the pinnacle of today's games but still very good. The main thing is art direction and making the environments interesting and exciting to look at, and so far it seems pretty spectacular. Love the big river - Oblivion didn't have much in terms of waterways, just lakes and the odd tiny stream.
the problem with this game is its produced by bethesda so its gonna be buggy as hell i had so many issues with oblivion, fallout 3 and fallout new vegas im not sure i want to bother going through that hassel again with a new title
although oblivian was fantastic (except the magic side of it really needed improvement in my opinion)
Fallout 3 was buggy? I never had a problem with it... are you console or PC gaming?
I don't have an issue with those graphics at all. PC version will likely be shinier by way of uber graphics packs and whatnot. And I am cheap so probably won't buy it till 2013 when the GOTY edition is on sale with all expansions
This game looks immense. Just bought a 160GB PS3 with oblivion to re-live the magic, pre-ordered skyrim from Amazon. I have my cock in my hand waiting for 11.11.11
This game looks immense. Just bought a 160GB PS3 with oblivion to re-live the magic, pre-ordered skyrim from Amazon. I have my cock in my hand waiting for 11.11.11
the date a bit ominous isnt it? i think they could have picked a better day to release a game or put some better thought into it
Also it has been nominated for Spike's Game of the Year about a week before its release. I'm not sure how fair that is, and I would not be surprised if there are some big glitches and silly niggles to deal with at first. Apparently the 360 version has leaked so maybe we'll hear about how it's running soon. I am definitely looking forward to exploring the landscape in the PC version, I got a decent video card to beef up Oblivion and it should at least make this look decent.
My laptop easily meets the minimum specifications and is just short of the recommended specs. Getting the PC version means I can play it on the move and get the mods, I can also play it on enhanced settings if/when I get a new kickass PC.
With the Xbox version I would get reliability and achievements.
Agreed, Bert. Mods make things so much more fun and extend the life of the game to an enormous degree. Also, given Bethesda's track record I would not be so sure the console version would be guaranteed to be more reliable, even if it looks a little nicer until you get the PC upgrade.
Anyone have any favourite mods they used in Oblivion? I used the usual beautifying stuff like Better Faces/Better Bodies and texture packs, and a really cool mod that opened up the towns in the overworld, so almost everything except interiors was one seamless map. I added in some really cool missions, usually assassiny stuff since that was my character class, but there was a really cool, lengthy mission mod revolving around archaeology. I always wanted to do the sailing ship one that's kicking around but it never would work for me for some reason.
I got into the Elder Scrolls with Morrowind, which I bought because I saw it cheap and happened to be between RPGs. I found it really different and kind of difficult to get to grips with, especially since it looked like an action-RPG and walked like an action-RPG and quacked like a pen and paper one. I swing and clearly hit something and it decides to roll dice to see if it actually did hit? What the heck is that about?
Aside from the awkward combat, though, I really enjoyed wandering around the landscape, interacting with a plethora of people and getting hired for all sorts of missions. I never did get around to completing the game properly, though I did eventually use the quick-win cheat just to see how it goes. I still put it on now and then because I just enjoyed wandering around the alien landscape so much, looking up at the weird sky, hearing the wind and the insects all around. I have been hearing that the atmosphere and look of this game is meant to be quasi-alien as well, not as out there and different at Morrowind but leaning more towards that than the bog standard fantasy stuff from Oblivion. I liked both but I am definitely looking forward to exploring what should hopefully be a very different-feeling world.
Last edited by The_Mike; November 7th, 2011 at 10:18 AM.
I agree with Le Mike too. Morrowind was incredible because everything was so different. You really were a stranger in a strange land. I played it a bit last christmas and the sheer depth and the sheer variety of factions etc is incredible.
I have decided to get the Xbox version initially then buy a PC copy if/when I get a new computer and some awesome mods come out. I can't fucking wait for Friday...
Just for that, all the goods I have mined for your stupid trophy will be turned into a statue of Tim Cahill elbowing Gerrard in the face, Tim Howard relieving himself in your European Cup and Baines taking a dump on Dalglish's head.
I finished paying Skyrim off in pre orders along with a few other games. But I probably won't get around to playing this game until I'm done with the term, due to how busy its been lately.
I may just make my character or something but nothing too in depth anytime soon.
...I'll probably end up giving 5 hours to this game on Friday by accident.
umm, couldn't you do that in previous games? Fairly certain you could get the curse in Daggerfall at the very least... and you could definitely be a vampire as well in recent games.
Have you gifted it to me yet? And it unlocks at midnight here... 11 and a bit hours, I think.
I bought Warhammer 40k Space Marine from them and it works fine, activated on Steam. Last I knew they weren't sure if the Skyrim key was going to be only activateable in Russia (or through a vpn) but they did say if it turned out it was they would be doing refunds if requested.
Alf, I will be honest... you look awful. As your resident forum doctor (since ECG doesn't post here and I am not sure Dr. Isaac Yankeem is a real doctor), I think you should probably go home and rest up.
I'm alright. I won a 360 in a competition and Double Penetration Deliveries have left it at another house who aren't in. I wasn't even meant to leave the house today but my boss came and dragged me out after yelling at me yesterday. Going mental, this 360 has been a carrot on a stick for weeks.
I had a few mods for Morrowind but nothing that I really liked.
The best mods tend to be things that fix or tweak stuff Bethesda didn't bother to do. After three or so official patches, Oblivion still had a few broken quests and lots of technical issues that the community put together a patch for. There were mods to fix combat in Oblivion and Morrowind as well, and there's always the fun stuff of adding new locations, items and quest-lines. If you're not hugely into the game, though, I suppose none of that stuff would be of interest. Most casual players probably wouldn't even notice the things the community patches fix.
My 360 arrived and it needs christening. I'm giving thought to going tomorrow morning and getting this. On the no camp, I am a bit skint but in the yes camp it's getting fantastic reviews.
Morrowind on the Xboc was the first game that really blew me away, then in Oblivion I spent hours just wandering around looking at the world, I'm prepared to fall in love again this time and I can't wait to see my first dragon...
Word from the land down under is that it is pretty gorgeous and impressive, even on a less than stellar PC. I like hearing that bows have been given a bit more attention and will no longer wind up requiring machine-gun tactics to take down a squirrel when you're level 20. They say that level-scaling is much more like Fallout 3, and leveling up is streamlined and more balanced, so I am hoping to be able to build a character that doesn't seem to get progressively less effective. I always go for the stealth types, and neither Morrowind or Oblivion were particularly great for those.
Word from the land down under is that it is pretty gorgeous and impressive, even on a less than stellar PC.
Don't tease me, bro.
Skyrim unlocks in 4 hours and 20mins but im going to see Harold and Kumar 3D in an hour and then I'll only have a hour or so to kill before I can start killing dragons.
Should I get this? I've already bought Batman, Uncharted and MW3 this month. I'm 27 years old for gods sake. I should really be spending my money on things like houses and shares in blood diamond mining companies.
Skyrim unlocks in 4 hours and 20mins but im going to see Harold and Kumar 3D in an hour and then I'll only have a hour or so to kill before I can start killing dragons.
When the launcher detected my hardware settings it decided to kick everything up to ultra high, and I do not have a gaming PC by any means. I'm very impressed at how smoothly it runs with ridiculously gorgeous settings. Even the opening sequence and all that chaos barely hit the framerate. Looks like Bethesda might have figured out how to optimize their games at last. How're you finding it runs on your machine?
EDIT: Just had a brilliant moment - got ambushed by some mad viking-looking bandit with an axe. In a panic I dove into the river and swam across, but the river was running pretty fast. He paced a little on the other side, then decided to wade in, but his armour was so heavy he was swept straight over the waterfall. I saw him disappear as he yelled "I'll kill yoooooou!"
Last edited by The_Mike; November 11th, 2011 at 10:34 AM.
When the launcher detected my hardware settings it decided to kick everything up to ultra high, and I do not have a gaming PC by any means. I'm very impressed at how smoothly it runs with ridiculously gorgeous settings. Even the opening sequence and all that chaos barely hit the framerate. Looks like Bethesda might have figured out how to optimize their games at last. How're you finding it runs on your machine?
Pretty well, on low. I can't wait to buy an i5 processor and kick this up to ultra.
One bug I've noticed is in Riverhorn (or something close to that I was tired)I killed a chicken and this guy Alvorn got super pissed at me and tried to kill me. Apparently he thinks the chicken is a NPC. I reloaded the save and didn't kill the chicken this time. Maybe they just love their chickens.
I remember reading a preview that described a bug where chickens would report crimes, as if they were witnesses. Bethesda said they fixed it but it appears they have still left chickens as human NPCs in some manner, which is probably why people try to murder you for whacking a chicken.
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So far, this is well worth the money. Everything is a complete upgrade from Oblivion. It feels so much smoother and looks so much better. Looking forward to what happens further on in the story.
He was old and wanted to die a good death so I offered to help him out. We had a nice epic fight and i used a fire dragon shout at him that set him on fire, then I got one of those kill animations where I ran him through, lifted him up, and dumped him down... all the while he was on fire. I'd call that a good death.
A night to remember... very funny quest.
Also, Marketh is incredible.
Last edited by Alf; November 11th, 2011 at 7:58 PM.
Obviously the opening segment has one but you can't really do anything but run like hell. Tense and exciting but not really a fight. Then there's the first real encounter where you kill one and are revealed to be Dragonborn, which was cool, and I was just walking around the countryside when a third swooped down on me. I am a little surprised, possibly even disappointed, that the dragons so far seem very easy to deal with. I'm sure I'll be cursing much later ones with massive healthbars and stupidly powerful attacks, but I would have thought even an early one would be a significant scrap. Instead I've found giants/trolls and the odd bandit chief to be much harder. With the dragons I just sidestep its breath, rain arrows into its face, shoot its belly a bunch of times as it flies around, and repeat. I suppose I was expecting something a bit more epic than being able to slay it with a few arrows while my companion cowers uselessly behind a rock and one solitary town guard runs a few miles to help us, finally arriving when it drops dead.
Not a massive complaint by any means, but a bit surprising. A more serious complaint though is that horses are somehow more useless than Oblivion - slow, plodding, clumsy, frequently getting stuck in cracks, easily getting lost if you don't remember precisely where you put it and of course you can't attack from it so you have to stop and get off (which takes forever) in order to deal with the constant wolf attacks. Really looking forward to a mod for that, but since Oblivion had a mod for mounted combat a long time ago, I would have thought Bethesda could put something together.
Still hugely enjoying the game, though. I really like that stealth has been focused on more this time, it suits my style of play and the character I'm trying to create. The perks seem to make a significant difference to how I play and where I focus my energies in levelling. I'm on level 12 now, after about 10 hours of play. How's everyone else doing?
EDIT: Also, how's everyone finding the graphics? I'm seeing a lot of whining on Gamefaqs (there's a shock) about how awful the game looks and that it's just a cheap console port. I think it is a console port, and to be fair it has been done rather sloppily leading to serious interface issues, but I have no idea what more people want out of the graphics. Bethesda and Steams' forums are full of fanboys so they aren't great places to discuss it either.
Last edited by The_Mike; November 14th, 2011 at 5:44 PM.
Are you a nord? I thought you could only get a dog as a Nord. Maybe that's wrong though. I do think I'm going to make the trip to Solitude and try to buy that 25k house.
In order to enjoy this, would I have had to play Oblivion first? This sounds interesting. Also, is it good for PS3? My computer sucks and couldn't handle this at all.
Yes, it's good for PS3. No, you don't have to play Oblivion first; it's set a long time after the events of Oblivion (a hundred years I believe) and the few important things (who the Blades are, etc) get explained to you, in great detail if you choose to read the literally hundreds of books they provide you with.
Yeah, no need to worry about backstory, the Elder Scrolls series has an insane amount of lore but none of it is necessary to know beforehand - you just kind of turn up in the world, explore and learn as you go. This takes place 201 years after Oblivion, plenty of time for all that to fade into the background - it is not a continuous story by any means.
PC's only real advantage over the PS3 is the use of mods (and there are a bunch out already) but unless you're heavily into these sorts of games I wouldn't worry about that.
The PS3 version is flawless. Go for it if you're worried your rig can't give you anything over the lowest setting without blowing up... otherwise the PC is probably the best choice if you can meet the medium settings.
I think i've put about 20 hours into this in four days... which is insane for me because 1. I don't game that much anymore, and 2. I'm not a big RPG guy. I have found western RPGs can own me, though... Bethesda and Bioware are masters.
I'm currently stuck on a puzzle in one of the tombs, and I'm actually happy about that. I hate how easy puzzles have become in RPGs.
The PS3 version is flawless. Go for it if you're worried your rig can't give you anything over the lowest setting without blowing up... otherwise the PC is probably the best choice if you can meet the medium settings.
Isn't one of the detractors with the console versions that the load times are fecking atrocious so you spend 5 minutes loading every building you want to enter... so in the long run, you just skip any building that isn't a shop or guild?
I don't know who is claiming all of that, but it couldn't be further from the truth. I have waited no longer than 25 seconds to load up a save file and no longer than 10 seconds to enter a building or quick-travel. At least on PS3.
I would have to say that the load-times are one of the best surprises of this game for me, because I expected them to be bad.
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