Cast:
Robert Pattinson as Bruce Wayne / Batman
Zoë Kravitz as Selina Kyle / Catwoman
Paul Dano as Edward Nashton / Riddler
Colin Farrell as Oswald "Oz" Cobblepot / Penguin
Jeffrey Wright as James Gordon
Andy Serkis as Alfred Pennyworth
John Turturro as Carmine Falcone
---
Alright so this is a pretty major release so I want to give it its own thread. Are you going to see it in theaters? Are you pumped for this latest reboot? I plan to see it pretty close to opening day, although I haven't bought my ticket yet. This movie exists outside the DCEU so it's launching a brand new Gotham universe where surely sequels and HBO Max series will follow. I'm still holding out hope that they link it to Todd Phillips' Joker where a sequel has been rumored, but it seems unlikely. That would be a great twist IMO, but it doesn't really work because they would need The Joker to be about 20 years older than he was in his movie, which would make him way too old.
Obviously we're used to Batman reboots but I find it interesting how they're rolling with this new adaptation while the other version (Affleck/Keaton) is still kicking around. Keaton, I believe, will take over the mantle from Affleck in The Flash and then appear in Batgirl and possibly other DCEU flicks. I don't really care, and I'm not into the DCEU anyway beyond whatever James Gunn produces, but it's a little bit of overkill. Whatever though, because this one looks great! Hopefully it lives up to the hype. I'm sure it'll be compared to Batman Begins, and that's a big shoe to fill.
Last edited by GOAT_Eli; February 21st, 2022 at 7:36 PM.
or live long enough to see yourself become a dumdum.
Posts
27,455
Mentioned
198 Post(s)
Tagged
0 Thread(s)
Rep Power
1634110
i am incredibly eager for this, and i'll be going to the theater for the first time since the pandemic started to see it. i don't think it will, and i'm very glad it won't, connect in any way to the joaquin joker stuff.
i love that they've got multiple batman related things going on. it's providing different flavors of a character and world, in big, mainstream ways, without having to wait a decade for a trilogy to finish before diving into something else. the MCU is fantastic with how they've organized their franchises and arcs, but i'm more than open to DC creating smaller universes of their characters that run parallel to each other.
Pretty hyped and plan to see it in theater. Glad its not connected to the other DCEU stuff as I don't care for all of it and everything doesn't have to be one big universe, it's cool to do different takes on your folks in their own worlds.
While I'm not smitten with Robert in the cowl so far, or the cowl itself... I'm liking the look of things when talking about big picture. Penguin looks amazing. Riddler looks cool as fuck. We're being dropped into a Batman story instead of another origin, and that's the right choice. Gotham looks beautiful.
Definitely going to see this when it comes out. I was on the fence about Robert Pattinson until I saw him in The Lighthouse. I needed to see him in something other than Twilight movies. I still can't get over the fact this guy will go down playing a vampire and a "bat". Anything with The Riddler will be good imo.
Definitely looking forward to this one. Plan on seeing this opening weekend.
I was skeptical with casting as well. The promos look great (not that's a guarantee). Going down a different lane with backstory will be interesting as well.
I thought this was very, very good. I’m curious to see how it clicks with the general audience. While this film has a massive runtime, I actually feel like a lot of it is actually covered in the trailers lol. Some really fun performances, the cinematography was fantastic, a score that just stays on you the entire way, and really good direction as this really was a detective/serial killer type story.
Was a little heavy with exposition but that didn’t deter from the movie. Like I said, the performances were great and Pattinson really felt genuine as the lead. Dano was very good and I loved how modernized his villainy was.
DC has been playing from behind in comparison to Marvel but I think this is a refreshing turn in relation to the art of a potential franchise and just general difference. Marvel is good at what it does but it generally has a general feel that is similar across the board with the movies. You need that because these characters eventually connect/intersect. This is spin into a different genre that does embody how comic books can really be different for different people.
Last edited by BGMaverick; March 6th, 2022 at 4:21 AM.
I thought this was excellent. The first hour in particular - I was just loving how the city was drawn, seeing Batman lurking in apartments and investigating crime scenes and his relationship with the cops. Also there is a huge amount of Batman on screen which I really appreciated.
I liked the score - distinctive from the Hans Zimmer theme.
Jeffrey Wright really surprised me with his take on Gordon. He had way more to do than I thought he would and his double act with Batman in some places was really fun. I also really enjoyed Farrell as Penguin. The new take on the Riddler certainly made for a creepy presence in all of his scenes. I liked the Zodiac-esque story and how it kept the canvas pretty small throughout.
I wasn’t feeling Catwoman in the trailers. She was a bit better than I expected, but some of her scenes with Batman didn’t feel earned; as if they just had to get them to a certain place, rather than basing it on real chemistry between the characters.
The film has flaws and most are in the last 45 minutes. Major plot spoilers below. It’s also far too long. A good 20 - 30 minutes could have been easily trimmed, at the very least.
It felt like they were unsure of how to end the film. I would have actually liked a quieter ending. Maybe add some more action to the capture of Falcone and then have Riddler kill him and get arrested. And Batman is horrified to learn that he’s actually been inspiring Riddler and other fanatics.
Seeing him fight Riddler’s internet friends just reminded me of The Dark Knight where Batman had to take out the cops. Action for the sake of it. It seemed like they felt obliged to go big, but also didn’t want to go too big, and so we had a lacklustre confrontation with some goons and a flood that never threatened any of the main characters.
Batman and Catwoman’s goodbye was way too long and the motorcycle scene didn’t do anything for me. Like I said above, it just didn’t feel earned in the way that Bale and Hathaway had a great chemistry from the off.
I’m tired of the Joker at the moment and wondering why he was featured at all, when Reeves has gone on record to say that he has no firm intention to bring him back and actually cut scenes of the Joker from the film - a Hannibal Lecter type scene where Batman asks him to get into the mind of the Riddler.
I liked the Jack Reacher vibe of the car chase, but I saw people raving about it and it didn’t live up to expectation. The trailer gave away the best shot and the rain was too much in places. I wonder how good it’ll look on a TV screen compared to a dark cinema.
Alfred was under-served. I didn’t really like their antagonistic relationship. And while I liked Pattinson’s take on Batman way more than expected, the characterisation of Bruce Wayne was odd. I get that he’s only 2 years into the role and this film was about him realising the need to pivot away from pure vengeance and rage. But he was so dour and distant that it clashed with how cerebral and reflective he could be with the mask on. Unlike Bale, I struggled to buy him as a guy who would become Batman.
PROS
-I think this might be the best looking Batman/batsuit in my opinion. Looks cool, convincing, realistic but still comic booky, and Pattinson's got a good jaw. I also think it's pretty neat they actually acknowledge the black paint around the eyes when he unmasks.
-Batman actually is a detective. I suppose it helps that the villain was all about puzzle solving so it lends itself to that more but it feels like that key aspect wasn't really featured much in other flicks and it helped distinguish this film overall from the others. It also kept me more invested as you're trying to work out the clues/mystery yourself as it goes, rather than a more action-oriented film where you're just watching and not "participating".
-The whole cast was really strong. Ferrell's Penguin was outstanding and I look forward to more of him in the next one. Dano's Riddler was genuinely unnerving.
-The overall aesthetic and noir vibe was good.
CONS
-Maybe I missed it but they never really established why Gordon trusted Batman so much and was standing up for him against the other cops, etc.. Just touching on the backstory for why they have their bond would have helped unless they did and I didn't catch it.
-I get why Bruce was an emo recluse from a story perspective but it kind of kept the tone too samey, quiet broody Batman becomes quiet broody Bruce. I'd really like to see, and think we will in sequels, Bruce become the more social outgoing playboy-type when he realizes he has to make his personas more distinct. So it's not entirely fair to hold it against the movie, like I said I get it, but it made for a certain monotony. Light hearted Bruce would've been a nice breather, kind of like the few jokes here and there from Penguin.
-Bruce and Selina's romance felt very forced and unearned. Seemed like they wanted to get to it but didn't do the work to get there. They hung out a few times and worked on a crime and then, boom, smooching. And then the end where they go their separate ways really felt like nothing because they knew each other for a week and they were smooching because they sometimes stood too close together...?
-"Rat with wings" and the first thing you think of is not a goddamn bat? C'mon. Come the fuck on.
-Could have been trimmed down a bit.
-Felt like there was a climax with the arena scene but then it fizzled out after that and like I said, the motorcycle scene didn't work for me so ending on that felt like a bit of a whimper. I would've cut out the Selina/Bruce romance in this one and get back to it when they reunite in a later flick. Cut the motorcycle scene and go from leading the folks with the flare in the arena to the voice-over/helping folks outside scene and call it an end. Bruce/Selina could then realize their feelings for each other when they're apart, absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that, then they can smooch when they see each other again.
-The Batmobile appearing the shadows and revving up was cool and then it kind of didn't do anything and didn't seem like it was faster/better than the other cars even though it had a rocket engine.
-The car chase. Poorly shot, all in-car close ups, you can't really see what's happening and appreciate the chase, and then the major scene and finale of it were spoiled in the trailer.
I see my con list is getting longer than my pro list which isn't a fair representation at how I felt, i think it's just easier to address and be specific about flaws and harder to articulate the good things because it's just like, "Most of it is good". A big ol' PRO is that I definitely left feeling like I want more of this Batman universe and to see where things go from here. I am absolutely sold on this new franchise.
PROS
-I think this might be the best looking Batman/batsuit in my opinion. Looks cool, convincing, realistic but still comic booky, and Pattinson's got a good jaw. I also think it's pretty neat they actually acknowledge the black paint around the eyes when he unmasks.
-Batman actually is a detective. I suppose it helps that the villain was all about puzzle solving so it lends itself to that more but it feels like that key aspect wasn't really featured much in other flicks and it helped distinguish this film overall from the others. It also kept me more invested as you're trying to work out the clues/mystery yourself as it goes, rather than a more action-oriented film where you're just watching and not "participating".
CONS
-Felt like there was a climax with the arena scene but then it fizzled out after that and like I said, the motorcycle scene didn't work for me so ending on that felt like a bit of a whimper. I would've cut out the Selina/Bruce romance in this one and get back to it when they reunite in a later flick. Cut the motorcycle scene and go from leading the folks with the flare in the arena to the voice-over/helping folks outside scene and call it an end. Bruce/Selina could then realize their feelings for each other when they're apart, absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that, then they can smooch when they see each other again.
I like how his costume has the neck guard/collar type approach. That looked fresh and cool. The detective aspect was also accentuated with the contact lenses and them being a recording device. I thought that was very cool.
I can see how that ending would rub some the wrong way but I thought it was refreshing to see that for this specific genre, where it wasn't all big CGI brawls.
I like how his costume has the neck guard/collar type approach. That looked fresh and cool. The detective aspect was also accentuated with the contact lenses and them being a recording device. I thought that was very cool.
I can see how that ending would rub some the wrong way but I thought it was refreshing to see that for this specific genre, where it wasn't all big CGI brawls.
I think the cape/collar are a big part of it, for sure, I found my eye drawn to that a lot because it was so unique. The contacts were rad, nice to see fresh gadgets. Fair point regarding the end, if I felt the relationship was more convincing, I'd probably have been more receptive.
PROS
-I think this might be the best looking Batman/batsuit in my opinion. Looks cool, convincing, realistic but still comic booky, and Pattinson's got a good jaw. I also think it's pretty neat they actually acknowledge the black paint around the eyes when he unmasks.
-Batman actually is a detective. I suppose it helps that the villain was all about puzzle solving so it lends itself to that more but it feels like that key aspect wasn't really featured much in other flicks and it helped distinguish this film overall from the others. It also kept me more invested as you're trying to work out the clues/mystery yourself as it goes, rather than a more action-oriented film where you're just watching and not "participating".
-The whole cast was really strong. Ferrell's Penguin was outstanding and I look forward to more of him in the next one. Dano's Riddler was genuinely unnerving.
-The overall aesthetic and noir vibe was good.
CONS
-Maybe I missed it but they never really established why Gordon trusted Batman so much and was standing up for him against the other cops, etc.. Just touching on the backstory for why they have their bond would have helped unless they did and I didn't catch it.
-I get why Bruce was an emo recluse from a story perspective but it kind of kept the tone too samey, quiet broody Batman becomes quiet broody Bruce. I'd really like to see, and think we will in sequels, Bruce become the more social outgoing playboy-type when he realizes he has to make his personas more distinct. So it's not entirely fair to hold it against the movie, like I said I get it, but it made for a certain monotony. Light hearted Bruce would've been a nice breather, kind of like the few jokes here and there from Penguin.
-Bruce and Selina's romance felt very forced and unearned. Seemed like they wanted to get to it but didn't do the work to get there. They hung out a few times and worked on a crime and then, boom, smooching. And then the end where they go their separate ways really felt like nothing because they knew each other for a week and they were smooching because they sometimes stood too close together...?
-"Rat with wings" and the first thing you think of is not a goddamn bat? C'mon. Come the fuck on.
-Could have been trimmed down a bit.
-Felt like there was a climax with the arena scene but then it fizzled out after that and like I said, the motorcycle scene didn't work for me so ending on that felt like a bit of a whimper. I would've cut out the Selina/Bruce romance in this one and get back to it when they reunite in a later flick. Cut the motorcycle scene and go from leading the folks with the flare in the arena to the voice-over/helping folks outside scene and call it an end. Bruce/Selina could then realize their feelings for each other when they're apart, absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that, then they can smooch when they see each other again.
-The Batmobile appearing the shadows and revving up was cool and then it kind of didn't do anything and didn't seem like it was faster/better than the other cars even though it had a rocket engine.
-The car chase. Poorly shot, all in-car close ups, you can't really see what's happening and appreciate the chase, and then the major scene and finale of it were spoiled in the trailer.
I see my con list is getting longer than my pro list which isn't a fair representation at how I felt, i think it's just easier to address and be specific about flaws and harder to articulate the good things because it's just like, "Most of it is good". A big ol' PRO is that I definitely left feeling like I want more of this Batman universe and to see where things go from here. I am absolutely sold on this new franchise.
The rest of you were like "yes, mth tell us your thoughts" and he ignored you for days.
I was all "maybe", And almost instantly here he is, sending reviews to the rafters.
I thought of two more things to add to the PROS side:
-No over the top congested Bale-esque Batman voice. Sort of a minus in the sense that his Bruce and Batman voice are essentially the same but like I said earlier, if he starts to develop the public Bruce persona more later, that would help differentiate them. But I just revisited the Nolan flicks and yeah, Bale's Batman voice is a bit much so I'm glad they didn't try to go for something similar here.
-I really liked how they showed the crooks being spooked by Batman's presence in the city. The signal goes up and they're all on edge and checking the shadows and whatnot. Very cool.
I saw it, and thought it was great. As many others have already said, the ending/climax was fairly weak and anticlimatic. The Riddler's plan and how it all played out confused me a bit. Maybe it will click with me better on second viewing. It was at times tough to follow all of the exposition in this movie in one watch.
The cast was superb... except I didn't love Dano. His character was very well written and creepy, and I loved how it incorporated social media and whatnot, but I felt another actor could have made it a more legendary villain. I liked Dano in There Will Be Blood (one of my favorite movies), but in Batman, idk, his distinct vocal style didn't land the way I hoped it would. Again, maybe I'll warm up to it on re-watch.
All of the other actors were great though, particularly Pattison, Farrell, Kravitz and Wright.
And Reeves did a great job building this world including the tone, style of the city, and the GCPD's relationship with Batman.
Really really good movie. Just on first watch I'm putting it in my top 5 Batman movies. It might be #5 but it's only trailing the first 2 Keaton movies, The Dark Knight, and the 60's Batman movie. This just felt like what should've followed The Dark Knight. I'm a big fan of The Crow, it had a little bit of that kind of vibe.
Best part of the movie for me was incorporating Nirvana's Something In The Way. An extremely slept on Nirvana song which is imo one of the best songs they ever did-especially live.
Finally watched this! I really liked it, but I don't think it'll be one of those movies I'll watch from start to finish cuz dang 3 hours is a long time. The cinematography was so beautiful, really found myself rooting for Catwoman/Selena a character I haven't cared for since Pfeifer and OMG Colin as Penguin was perfect. I still had to switch my brain off at Pattinson being a scary badass at times, but I think he did a good job. What I don't get is why they didn't have that contrast between Bruce and Batman. They were both pretty much identical personas. Batman is dark and brooding... Bruce was dark and brooding... anybody could have just known he's Batman. Even the twins working the door would be like "Yo, you're Batman aren't you?"
This was a breath of fresh air though. This rendition of Batman ain't perfect, but I really really hope they continue on with it.
Finally watched this! I really liked it, but I don't think it'll be one of those movies I'll watch from start to finish cuz dang 3 hours is a long time. The cinematography was so beautiful, really found myself rooting for Catwoman/Selena a character I haven't cared for since Pfeifer and OMG Colin as Penguin was perfect. I still had to switch my brain off at Pattinson being a scary badass at times, but I think he did a good job. What I don't get is why they didn't have that contrast between Bruce and Batman. They were both pretty much identical personas. Batman is dark and brooding... Bruce was dark and brooding... anybody could have just known he's Batman. Even the twins working the door would be like "Yo, you're Batman aren't you?"
This was a breath of fresh air though. This rendition of Batman ain't perfect, but I really really hope they continue on with it.
It's always been like that. Bruce Wayne was rarely over the top. But we didn't get much of Bruce Wayne in this one which was kind of nice.
It's always been like that. Bruce Wayne was rarely over the top. But we didn't get much of Bruce Wayne in this one which was kind of nice.
True, we didn’t get much Bruce, but there has always been a vast difference between the two. Batman is the dark and broody one… Bruce’s rich boy persona was he other. And while it’s cool not having the rich boy persona aspect here, it was just silly how he played them pretty much the same.
True, we didn’t get much Bruce, but there has always been a vast difference between the two. Batman is the dark and broody one… Bruce’s rich boy persona was he other. And while it’s cool not having the rich boy persona aspect here, it was just silly how he played them pretty much the same.
I disagree. Go watch Michael Keaton. He's not joking around having a good time. He's quiet, he's soft spoken, always looked pissed. Christian Bale, watch him in The Dark Knight Returns.
Again--We didn't really get anything of Bruce Wayne that goes to banquets and charity events. Plus if you think about a lot of the graphic novels over the last 20-30 years they don't really paint him as having these 2 polar opposite personas. He's not Clark Kent/Superman.
Streamed this last night. Thought it was excellent, the scores, the action sequences and the actors/actresses all played their parts very well. I personally didn’t have an issue with Bruce/Batman being too similar. Bruce is an orphan living all alone except for his butler/surrogate father Alfred so it’s no problem with him being broody.
My only minor issues with it was the length, could’ve been trimmed down by about maybe 30 mins or so and the ending being a bit flat and possibly should’ve just led to the capture of Riddler with his talking to Joker in Arkham but yeah, definitely want to see more of this latest reincarnation series.
@VHS @Nash Diesel I mentioned it in my review above but I've seen the "Batman/Bruce are too much the same in this" addressed as this being early on in his run as Batman (only 2 years) so he hasn't realized that he needs to separate the personas more. At this point, of course Bruce is a depressed hermit because his folks just got killed but in time, he'll likely realize he needs to develop the Bruce persona more to differentiate it and might start amping up the socialite/playboy characteristics so it's not so obvious that guy's Batman. I wouldn't be surprised if that starts happening in the next movie(s).
I just didn't feel like we had enough of Bruce Wayne in general to even bother making that statement. And again, go back and watch Michael Keaton's Bruce Wayne. He's well beyond his parents' death but he's still a dark individual. I think we see him laugh once in 2 films and that's when Alfred is telling the horse story in 1.
It was a complaint my wife had when we saw this movie and I kind of agreed with it until I heard the explanation I posted above and then I didn't mind. I've seen other folks online express similar sentiments. But you do have a point.
I disagree. Go watch Michael Keaton. He's not joking around having a good time. He's quiet, he's soft spoken, always looked pissed. Christian Bale, watch him in The Dark Knight Returns.
Again--We didn't really get anything of Bruce Wayne that goes to banquets and charity events. Plus if you think about a lot of the graphic novels over the last 20-30 years they don't really paint him as having these 2 polar opposite personas. He's not Clark Kent/Superman.
Keaton's Bruce was totally awkward, but still a bit of a disconnected snob tho. Whether his character was doing it on purpose or inadvertently, it was there.
"It's Japanese."
"How do you know?"
"Because I bought it in Japan?"
Knox even refers to him as a rich stiff.
Ehh. I think the bottom line is Robert's Bruce needs work. They'll work on it and it'll be all good. Because I don't think his Batman needs any tweaking at all.
"You want to know the truth? I don't think I've ever been in this room before."
You can't expect more out of something we barely witnessed. Knox had never even met him when he called him that. Most emos are total pricks.
But again....You saw what, 20 seconds of Bruce Wayne outside of the mansion/batcave and then parakeet nonsense? Ok.
True, it's just weird to finally have a Batman movie with so little Bruce Wayne when we've become so accustomed to Batman movies with very little Batman doing Batman things.
True, it's just weird to finally have a Batman movie with so little Bruce Wayne when we've become so accustomed to Batman movies with very little Batman doing Batman things.
mth had a very good take on the Batman/Bruce differential which I hope is explored further on future Batman movies on this current incarnation.
Also one of the things that has maybe not been mentioned enough on a browsing (if someone has then apologies) was the different scenarios on how Batman and Bruce got let into the club and how they got let in. Both asked for different people (Penguin and Falcone) and yet Batman had to kick his way in but Bruce didn’t. Loved how they kept calling back to that and how Bruce/Batman were still the same but kinda different but both got the same result. Made me think the Bruce/Batman being similar wasn’t that big of an issue as some made it out to be.
or live long enough to see yourself become a dumdum.
Posts
27,455
Mentioned
198 Post(s)
Tagged
0 Thread(s)
Rep Power
1634110
Originally Posted by VHS
True, we didn’t get much Bruce, but there has always been a vast difference between the two. Batman is the dark and broody one… Bruce’s rich boy persona was he other. And while it’s cool not having the rich boy persona aspect here, it was just silly how he played them pretty much the same.
how is it silly? they make a very big point to say that bruce wayne is NEVER seen out, which is why him showing to the memorial was so big. nobody knows what bruce wayne is like. compare and contrast the two scenes at the iceberg lounge door. as batman, he's confident and intimidating. when he shows up as bruce, he's timid and meek. he looks like a sad little boy, because when he's not in the suit and mask, he IS a sad little boy.
how is it silly? they make a very big point to say that bruce wayne is NEVER seen out, which is why him showing to the memorial was so big. nobody knows what bruce wayne is like. compare and contrast the two scenes at the iceberg lounge door. as batman, he's confident and intimidating. when he shows up as bruce, he's timid and meek. he looks like a sad little boy, because when he's not in the suit and mask, he IS a sad little boy.
Regardless of people not knowing who Bruce Wayne is or what he's like, I also bring up the twins again. They hear a knock and it's Batman, he says he wants to see the Penguin, they get the shit kicked out of them yada yada. Later on in the movie they hear a knock and it's Bruce, he says he wants to see Falcone. They should look at each other and just know uhh this is Batman. If anything, Batman shouldn't have even knocked on the front door, he should have stealthed in.
The silly aspect involves all these characters interacting with Bruce who acts the same way as Batman. I guess we just see different things here. Eh.
or live long enough to see yourself become a dumdum.
Posts
27,455
Mentioned
198 Post(s)
Tagged
0 Thread(s)
Rep Power
1634110
Originally Posted by VHS
Regardless of people not knowing who Bruce Wayne is or what he's like, I also bring up the twins again. They hear a knock and it's Batman, he says he wants to see the Penguin, they get the shit kicked out of them yada yada. Later on in the movie they hear a knock and it's Bruce, he says he wants to see Falcone. They should look at each other and just know uhh this is Batman. If anything, Batman shouldn't have even knocked on the front door, he should have stealthed in.
The silly aspect involves all these characters interacting with Bruce who acts the same way as Batman. I guess we just see different things here. Eh.
lol why should they JUST KNOW it's batman? i literally just explained that they do act differently. beyond that, you overestimate how easily it would be to connect the dots of bruce and batman being the same cause you already fucking know they're the same. there is ZERO reason, as indicated by behavior, that rando thug doormen should JUST KNOW that this sad looking recluse billionaire is one and the same as the dude dressed up like a bat who smashed their faces in a couple days earlier. you seem to see things as if your head is up your ass.
lol why should they JUST KNOW it's batman? i literally just explained that they do act differently. beyond that, you overestimate how easily it would be to connect the dots of bruce and batman being the same cause you already fucking know they're the same. there is ZERO reason, as indicated by behavior, that rando thug doormen should JUST KNOW that this sad looking recluse billionaire is one and the same as the dude dressed up like a bat who smashed their faces in a couple days earlier. you seem to see things as if your head is up your ass.
It was alright. The ending dropped it a few points and I feel like it was hyped up too much to really live up to expectations. Battinson was fine and I'll still watch another one. Maybe a different director won't have so many shots that are out of focus or just hard to follow visually, that was my main gripe with it. It might have been easier to appreciate those scenes on a giant movie screen instead of the 55 inch in my living room. How many times is the word vengeance said in this movie anyway? Oh, and it didn't seem like Pattinson and Kravitz had any chemistry, very forced.
Reply With Quote
Originally Posted by mth
