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    Tyrion has all the best lines because he is GRRMs mary sue. A ugly little misfit who throws out witty zingers all the time and makes people look stupid and has awesome adventures. No author insertion there.

    He is pretty terrific even if he is basically GRRM in the books.

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    I'm not sure what they are doing with the Jon thing...

    We'll see.

    Otherwise another great episode. And it's still rattling ahead at a merry pace.

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    The Greyjoys maybe as dysfunctional as the Lannisters. I didn't think Theon got that far with little sis in the books, so I am not sure why they needed to go that far on the show. I am not fan of the Ironborn. They just come off as assholes even little sis can be a right bitch when she wants and does stuff that makes no sense. Not loving the changing of names on the show.

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    Why does Jon always have his mouth open

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    Lets not get too spoilerish but i dont mind the ironborn. Theon is a dumb jock and Balon is a wanker but I like that. To get old in that world you have to be one scary dickhead

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    Another good episode this week, keeping the momentum going in the various plots. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought the girl having cum wiped away from her cheek was a tad overboard. I'm looking forward to seeing more of the Greyjoys.

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    Yeah some of the sex stuff seems a bit juvenile. Some of it seems like sex for sex sake.

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    They could easily cut it out and make the show better. Weirdly I've just read the parts in the book (and a bit beyond) that the first two episodes of the second series have covered, although it's a bit confusing what they've down with the story in some parts on TV. I'm guessing perhaps they've re-arranged the order of some stuff:


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    As far as I remember theres a few hints early doors that Stannis is knocking off Mel. Nothing as blatant as him knocking the bejesus out of her vadge over a map of Westeros.

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    http://www.tv.com/news/game-of-thron...eason-3-28354/
    The network has renewed Game of Thrones for a third season! File this under "unsurprising news," as Season 2 has gotten off to a fantastic start both critically and ratings-wise, but everything is better when it's written in stone.

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    Stannis was almost certainly banging melisandre. I'm pretty sure it was clearly alluded to if not outright stated. The stuff with theon and his sister was pretty accurate. The jizz on the chin was a bit over the top but I guess it was just giving little hints to the casual depravity of littlefingers whole role. As for Jon and craster I'm guessing it was just a way to justify the stuff with gilly while missing a few things out and to leave the show with a little cliffhanger moment. Another tremendous episode I felt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Cash View Post
    Also Jon is not in book 4.
    Apologies for that inaccuracy but regardless of that the Samwell chapters, Victarion, Areo Hotah and Arys Oakheart chapters are brilliant. Yes it's a slower pace but it isn't boring at all.

    Victarion is easily one of my favourite characters now, the guy is harder than a coffin nail.

    I finished A Dance With Dragons today. Holy shit things just keep getting better and better. I have no idea who is going to triumph now.



    Also in case nobody has seen it yet here's a chapter sample from Winds Of Winter: http://www.georgerrmartin.com/if-sample.html
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    I would fuck Kimber James and other trannies of similar attractiveness.

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    Book spoiler
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    May want to spoiler that one Mik.

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    Also...

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    Yeah that's a bit much...

    I forgot to say

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    I think that the tv show is just doing things in a more blatant way because it saves times. GRRM is a consultant on it, so they aren't likely to be changing the canon out the series.


    Also, who is one man gang?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    Also, who is one man gang?
    Some Jobber.

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    Well, props to him for catching my spoiler. I meant to go advanced and add it in, but by the time I'd typed it out on my phone I'd forgotten about it.

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    Yeah, blame the fucking phone, Mik.

    Watched the last episode again with my broad tonight. She didn't make a peep about the cum wiping scene. I was surprised, because usually she's like, "ASKASDH THE SEX WTF WOMEN BLAH BLAH BLAH."

    She did have a big lol moment when Asha (I will never call her Yarra or whatever the fuck), walked in on Theon and his pops.

    Also, more sex scenes involving Melissandre would be most welcome. I have a thing for gingers.

    Oh, hey, Mik...

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    Renly and loras being benders is pretty well implied. You don't have the same scope for subtle clues in an hour long tv show.

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    Why not keep it subtle via dialogue rather than outright sex scenes then? There is easily scope for that if you can be bothered writing it.


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    Had no idea Seanny was some sort of bender/homosexual that didn't have a desire to see naked women and sex scenes on television.

    OH THE HORROR.

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    I knew.

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    Yes, all Americans are stupid and need to be shown everything. We invented the close the door to imply fucking motify, mother fucker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miotch View Post
    Had no idea Seanny was some sort of bender/homosexual that didn't have a desire to see naked women and sex scenes on television.

    OH THE HORROR.
    Not really my point but fair enough.

    I'm gay lol.

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    If your point was that it's not necessary and that it some how cheapens the story telling, I'd argue that GRRM is a fat virgin pervert who has used these books to live out his demented sexual fantasies and that it's totally in line with the books.

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    My point is that there are better parts of the book being ignored or glazed over.

    "People wont relate to this, throw in some tits instead and we'll skip a few scenes."

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    We're 2 episodes in. What has been ignored and/or glossed over?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miotch View Post
    If your point was that it's not necessary and that it some how cheapens the story telling, I'd argue that GRRM is a fat virgin pervert who has used these books to live out his demented sexual fantasies and that it's totally in line with the books.
    Well, yes and no. For a start there isn't this much sex in the books.

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    Sex sells.

    Yes, they're going to hit you over the head with it in the TV show because, well, why not? Plus it leaves little doubt. I for one did not get that Renly was a poof when reading the first book. I am probably in the minority, but they aren't going to leave room for doubt. When telling a story visually it makes sense to spoon feed you these things.

    And there's a LOT of sex in the books. The only 3 things that I can come up with that weren't in the books is Stannis/Mel, Renly/Loras, and the Littlefinger whore house scenes. All 3, in my opinion, were well served by showing them actually happening.

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    Any hints that Renly was a homersexual have been pretty subtle so far. A couple of comments mainly but if not for the TV show I might not have even thought of it.

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    I thought it was made pretty obvious Renly was gay with Loras from the books.

    And there is a LOT of sex in the books.

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    Maybe you wanted them to be gay. Literally the only hints I've picked up on so far are
    . Maybe there's more hints to come, I'm just a hundred pages or so into part 1 of book 3. There's a lot of talk of whores and rape in the books.

    Also I can see why Pete Cash enjoys Jaime Lannister, he just spends the whole time casually trolling everyone and offering out fights.
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    Jaime is an excellent character.

    There's a few more hints than that,

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    Yeah I remember that one as well. I don't know, I think if I hadn't seen the blatant knob-gobbling action on TV prior I'm not sure if the hints would have registered heavily. Also I think Renly is one character the TV show has so far gotten wrong or changed for the worse thus far. He's an excellent character in the book, a little nondescript in the show and with none of what distinguishes him in the original story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    I thought it was made pretty obvious Renly was gay with Loras from the books.

    And there is a LOT of sex in the books.
    Yeah there is a lot of sex in the books and Renly and Loras are hinted at a couple of times, but the biggest sign of that in the books is in Clash and that is only after


    Mitch the things I've noticed go overlooked so far mainly involve Arya and Jon.

    I was hoping for a lot more of that...their journeys up to this point are far more interesting in the books.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball View Post

    Mitch the things I've noticed go overlooked so far mainly involve Arya and Jon.

    I was hoping for a lot more of that...their journeys up to this point are far more interesting in the books.


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    They send a letter to your mum.


    From Paul Berne's autobiography:

    Damien Gates tried to use me as a way back into football. That dirty English cunt knew his career was finished and he tried to drag me down with him, attempting to keep me up by reminising about the old times. I could see beneath his lies however, right to the point where I just wanted to smack that bastard.

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    Ahahahahahaha...

    That was good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    Some Jobber.

    Seven hells!

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    Fuck you, ECG.

    Fuck you.

    Even thought I agree that Renly should have been better developed in the show, fuck you.

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    I don't understand people kicking off about the sex scenes at all. Has anyone actually tried cracking one off to a sex scene in Thornes? I dont think it's possible. Maybe the people complaining are the ones who can't afford HBO and have to go round their parents house to watch it. After all you can't wip out your cock for a quickie if mummy and daddy are in the room with you.

    If anything a good sex scene in Thrones has me going for real porn after the episode has finished...

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    Good.

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    Doctor Who might be R'hllor himself.

    And I worship the God of Light.

    Doctor Who, if you could get Mel and Dany to appear in front of me right now ready to go, I'll do whatever you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot View Post
    Fuck you, ECG.

    Fuck you.

    Even thought I agree that Renly should have been better developed in the show, fuck you.
    I saw an opportunity to unhorse you and I took it. And I'd do it again.


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    If this was a melee you'd be Brienne of Tarth and Judas would be Loras Tyrell.

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    Davos all but tells the reader that Stannis and Mel are fucking. He even gets all moody and MY THOUGHTS BETRAY MY LORD about it. I understand why the show has them explicitly fuck because as I said TV is a less subtle medium. In the books for example during the Tourney of the Hand when Jaime and Sandor play out the semi Renly bets on Sandor and Littlefinger on Jaime. After Littlefinger wins the bet Renly says something like "heheheheh if only the imp was here I would have taken him to the cleaners too"

    This is a subtle clue that Littlefinger was bullshitting Ned and Catelyn about his bet with the imp. It confirms that Tyrion always bets on Jaime.

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    Lets also be wary of spoilers. I very nearly spoilt a plot point about melisandre when I was expanding on my above post. Lets keep in mind not everyone has read the books.

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    We need to revive the book thread.

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    I am re reading them like a massive nerd. I find its an easy book to just smash through on my morning commute. I am just about to buy Storm of Swords for my Kindle.

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    While I am shitting up this thread with garbage I thought this was quite awesome

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    I quite like Kit Harrington as Jon Snow. He's clearly an inexperienced actor, but he plays the role quite well and will clearly grow into it.

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    He has his mouth open in almost every scene.

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    You said that the other day and I looked for it and it didn't happen. Which was like when you said that GRRM always writes about manhoods glistening and I looked for that when reading the books and he only ever did it like twice.

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    Every episode needs to be three hours long.

    FUCK.

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    No comments on the last episode?

    A bit surprised at how they summarized Arya's journey and it looks like no tickler? Considering they did nothing to develop Lommy on the show they really could have just left his death out.

    They have done a mostly good job here, but it is starting to feel a bit rushed. Tyrion was fucking brilliant as always and I want to plow Margaery Tyrell.

    I also suspect that Renly might be gay.

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    Fucking excellent episode I thought.

    I dont mind that they are compressing so much, a lot of it really isnt all that necessary (dont get me wrong, it makes a good story, but it would be a lot of filler on the faster pace of a TV show) as long as they hit all the main notes I'll be fine.

    I think not getting up for Margaery Tyrell is about as conclusive proof of gayness as there can be.

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    Was the fellow who took Needle not the Tickler?

    Next week looks like it's going to be pretty brutal from that storyline's perspective.

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    Yes, I guess so. I seem to remember Tickler as more of a rogue and not one of the Lannister soldiers. I think I had pictured him less like a knight and more like a maniac.

    A quick search looks like that was in fact Tickler.

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    Polliver takes needle in the books but if that's Tickler then I imagine Polliver wont be in this.

    Great episode but as you said GBF it is being rushed. This is what I feared might happen, lots that we know going unseen to be replaced by things we could not be sure of or shortened versions of events.

    I said it before but Jon and Arya's journeys were two things I didn't want to see sacrificed and already so much has gone by already that I feel each episode really should be a mini-movie.

    Also is it just me or has Petyr Baelish acquired a Welsh accent? I may be wrong but isn't the fella that plays him Irish? What's going on there?

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    I think it's a bit soon to say it's being rushed, I think they're setting the scene for the big set-piece of the story at this point. I liked Arya and Jon's journeys in the book too but it represents a lot of needless exposition on screen. It would be boring, to be honest, because much of the story takes place in their heads. The conversation Arya had with Yoren serves to remove the need for that part of her journey, for example, because it's someone directly shaping her attitude and actions (actually strikes me as more realistic than what happens in the book).

    Although again I do think the emphasis on the main sex scene this week was probably over-played a bit. I'm nearly finished book 3 part 1 and it's not apparent to me why they're making such a big deal of that in the short-term, unless they have changed things pretty drastically.

    On the Tickler, I read it quite recently so I had pictured him as someone like that, to be honest. He was one of Gregor Clegane's men but I think he was described as being quite an ordinary looking bloke who would speak normally to the prisoners when guarding but then be exceptionally cruel at other times.
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    You're saying that they are cutting out needless exposition...I say by inserting needless exposition towards the sexual aspects and characteristics of certain key players in the Game Of Thrones. Some for the good, some for the bad. I certainly think we all agree that Theon has been given a good amount of time which will certainly be a sign that his part in the future will not be turned simply into a bit-part as I had initially feared.

    It's almost all relevant in the grand scheme of things, I just want to see more of Arya and Jon because they are great.

    Also on The Tickler...I had him as a guy with moderate length hair and never an expression on his face. Polliver seems more like the lad we saw taking Needle, maybe they merged the two characters to save time.

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    Tremendous episode. Tyrion's scheming was fantastic, as always. Nice to see Lady Stark with a bit of attitude again, and I'm intrigued by what's happening on the Iron Islands. I thought it was good to have a total break from the Daenerys story, though I'd like to see a check-in with Jaime in the near future. I've been very impressed with how they've juggled so many plots so well. For what it's worth, as someone who hasn't read the books, it isn't feeling rushed to me. Everything is building up nicely and I can't wait to see the pay-off (especially as they have a bigger budget this season for battles).

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    Jerome Flynn singing career is probably old news to the English but I think its kind of neat. Bronn what terrible hair you have. Some interesting casting.

    Ser ilyn payne playing a tune

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRQ0N-dW0F0

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    DADDY ISNT GOING TO LOVE YOU THEON.

    Does anyone sort of think Stannis is basically Ned Stark without any compassion whatsoever. I like Stannis. Without spoiling too much I like how he battles himself morally and how he operates. He is an interesting character.

    EDIT oh and also

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    Jerome Flynn disappeared off the face of the planet about ten years ago. Was a surprise to see him pop up in this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Cash View Post
    Jerome Flynn singing career is probably old news to the English but I think its kind of neat. Bronn what terrible hair you have. Some interesting casting.

    Ser ilyn payne playing a tune

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRQ0N-dW0F0
    Bloody hell, I didn't recognise him at all!!

    Robson and Jerome were a crime that someone should be imprisoned for.

    Good episode last night, I'm worried that Arya's story is going to lack resonance but I am loving the Iron Island stuff.

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    I told my mate Bronn was Jerome Flynn during the scene in the Eyrie in season 1, he couldn't believe it.

    One of the best pieces of casting in the whole series for me and a strong performance. Bronn was always going to be one of the best characters though, he has some superb lines.

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    As an aside, that fishing program Robson Green does on 5 is brilliant.

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    "Landing a pre-pention career with Robson Green"

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    Maegery is fit as fook. Love girls that look like cats.

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    Go on Yoren! Fucking badass.

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    Why are you lads assuming matey-boy is the Tickler? I'm assuming he'll be introduced next ep... or maybe not, maybe they'll skip straight to harrenhal or maybe even combine the two.

    I don't mind them compressing storylines a bit as long as they hit the right notes like someone mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf View Post
    Maegery is fit as fook. Love girls that look like cats.
    Yes, me too. Sophie Ellis Bexlor for the win.

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    The Lannister man who took Needle could be Polliver or even Raff the Sweetling (who killed Lommy in the books). A small bit but Raff also took Gendry's Bull-helm in the books which they touched on.

    Tickler is bound to appear soon alongside Gregor.

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    I imagine that the guy is either Polliver or The Tickler, I wouldn't like to think that they had condensed those two together but I seriously doubt we'll be seeing Raff. The whole thing is moving too fast. Arya, Jon, Tyrion and Danaerys should all have their own shows which merge occasionally.

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    winteriscoming.net has a season two casting page and the bloke they signed on as Tickler looked nothing like the Lannister man who took Needle.

    just did a google image search (warning -- if you don't want Tickler spoiled):

    Last edited by thetony; April 19th, 2012 at 7:03 PM.

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    What do I win for saying he was probably Polliver first?

    Is it gold?

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    Also...The Tickler looks freaky normal...like he's so normal it's freaking me out.

    When he was described as normal in the books I never had that in mind.

    That's probably brilliant casting.
    I'll be delighted to see him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball View Post
    What do I win for saying he was probably Polliver first?

    Is it gold?
    Acknowledgement that you have indeed read the books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball View Post
    Also...The Tickler looks freaky normal...like he's so normal it's freaking me out.
    Calm down,....

    Our first look at bolton then. Interesting.

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    What a creepy episode. Joff becomes even more mental.

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    A fair bit of shitty acting and shitty script in the Qarth sections...

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    Charles Dance is brilliant as Tywin.

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    Charles Dance is brilliant, agreed.

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    Great, great episode.

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    Some of the acting in this program is horrible. Proper stage school stuff. I think it was Loras and Renly that annoyed me in last weeks episode, in the outside scene with Brienne. Just come off as a really hammy scene.

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    Oh and the actress that plays Dany is awful. So they've done a good job in that I dislike her in both the books and the tv series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlebsfall View Post
    Some of the acting in this program is horrible. Proper stage school stuff. I think it was Loras and Renly that annoyed me in last weeks episode, in the outside scene with Brienne. Just come off as a really hammy scene.
    Yep, Brienne was so shit last week. Imagine the takes they didn't use?

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    It must be pretty difficult for anyone to act this stuff and say the lines with a straight face. I don't mind Brienne being stilted because I think she's supposed to be that way. The melee scene was laughable though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hlebsfall View Post
    Oh and the actress that plays Dany is awful. So they've done a good job in that I dislike her in both the books and the tv series.
    I love her in the books but she is pretty poor in the show. I think they should have cast her with future books in mind...
    There are a lot of awkward scenes coming up for her that will require huge support from her co-cast so hopefully the show doesn't suffer too much.

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    New Mountain looks like shit.

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    I really need to start learning these characters' names. I'm so lost and behind.

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    I didn't even spot the new mountain... can't be very mountainous/

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    He had about 3 seconds of really tall screen time. Should just change his name to The Redwood because he's more of a TREE than a MOUNTAIN. A TREE, Alf.

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    Looks like Yao Ming with a beard.

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