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    Wenger himself has made a nonsense of the expectations argument. It's him who says every year that Arsenal are good enough to win the league.

    It's not that Arsenal haven't won the league in 12 years though, it's the mind numbing predictability. Hlebs got slated for being negative at the start of the season when we were doing well but guess what, he got it spot on. The league campaign has been exactly the same for over a decade. The CL campaigns are getting worse. Wenger just isn't able to do the job he used to be able to. Performances aren't as good, signings aren't as good, mentality is poor, there's no leaders. He just doesn't appear able to fix the problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    Wenger himself has made a nonsense of the expectations argument. It's him who says every year that Arsenal are good enough to win the league.

    It's not that Arsenal haven't won the league in 12 years though, it's the mind numbing predictability. Hlebs got slated for being negative at the start of the season when we were doing well but guess what, he got it spot on. The league campaign has been exactly the same for over a decade. The CL campaigns are getting worse. Wenger just isn't able to do the job he used to be able to. Performances aren't as good, signings aren't as good, mentality is poor, there's no leaders. He just doesn't appear able to fix the problems.
    You lot keep coming back to that as though it means something. Yes Wenger says that he hopes to challenge for the league title every year, so what? Every year you do challenge for the title, you just don't win it. Are you saying that Arsenal fans would be more forgiving if every year Wenger said 'obviously we are unlikely to compete with the big clubs, in fact there are potentially 2 clubs pushing for the title and another 6 competing for the next 4, so as long as we finish top 4 I'll be content'?

    Every year managers of clubs say that they aren't planning on being near a relegation dogfight...but guess where they end up?

    Him being ambitious doesn't mean Arsenal should automatically overturn the huge advantages that Chelsea and Man City in particular have over you.

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    Its treating the fans like mugs saying we can win the league, just utter bullshit, everyone knows it wont happen so why say it?

    Also Mik, I think your idea of challenging for the title is different from ours. Challenging for the league is being in contention with a few games to go, something we havent done in a decade.

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    Mik's point is that every club says that. You've completely missed the argument here.

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    And the point is, every team around us at some point over the past decade has been in with a shot of the title up until the end of the season. Arsenal have never been close.

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    Exactly.

    I see the club are playing the 'transfer war chest card' now

    Never has a club treated its fans with such contempt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romford Pele View Post
    Never has a club treated its fans with such contempt.
    !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romford Pele View Post
    Never has a club treated its fans with such contempt.
    Blimey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romford Pele View Post
    Never has a club treated its fans with such contempt.
    I didn't know you supported Leyton Orient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefy View Post
    I didn't know you supported Leyton Orient.
    Or Blackpool.

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