People who are aggressive to start the game generally have roles dictating that they should be. Those are the people you want to get out first, usually.
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People who are aggressive to start the game generally have roles dictating that they should be. Those are the people you want to get out first, usually.
I guess I'll wait to see, I see them both in that same light but Grim seems to know even more.
Fine then to fix my typo:
UNVOTE
VOTE: Bert
Can't we just 'Vote Thomas' or 'Vote Andrew' then if that's your worry then Bert?
You don't have to pick on Cewsh, or use that reason to pick on Cewsh depending on your viewpoint I guess.
Well no we can't because that would make the game really easy.
Bert doesn't like me in real life, and he probably got an aggressive character and just went with what came naturally. Since I doubt he's enough of a cock to just outright start tossing insults around apropos of nothing in a board game, it is pretty suspicious. Hence my vote for him.
This from the guy who called me a "demented psychopath" when we did fantasy football.
Ok, Cewsh.
Actually, I called you a demented sociopath, but it was very much in context for the game since you had just rattled off 35 all caps posts like this:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bert
My only point was that you were acting aggressively and I assumed it had to do with your part in the game. And I continue to do so.
Can everyone do me a favor and go back and read the rules? They are at the beginning of the Confirmation phase and they are also on the first page of the post. Most of the questions I am receiving are stuff in the rules, so everyone go back and read them for me please, and I think that can solve a lot of questions.
Vote Count
Cewsh - 2
Grimario - 2
Bert - 4
We have little over 24 hours left in this Day Phase.
So The Rick isn't Rick Grimes? Well there goes all my plans. Everyone seems to be voting for certain people based on their mutual dislike for each other. I know it's hard to actually have a reason to lynch someone at this stage but the bickering is just annoying. I almost want to lynch all of you just to prevent it going on for days. Saying that, no one has convinced me of any and I'd rather not sacrifice random folk yet... I have no opinions on who is who at the minute, Cewsh makes an interesting point saying aggressive people are usually influenced as they're in an aggressive role - but also some folk are generally assholes around here and it's nothing out of the ordinary. :dunno:
Vote: No lynch.
For now.
All posturing aside 3H makes a good point, right now any snarling and voting seems a little odd, we've got nothing to go on so it's all just down to personal feelings, unless someone has been told otherwise.
I'm not familiar enough with the story to know which 'characters' should be aggressive and which shouldn't but wouldn't that be an interesting place to start? Listing those characters that are here and how they should act?
Vote Count
Cewsh - 2
Grimario - 2
Bert - 4
No Lynch - 1
We have little over 24 hours left in this Day Phase.
I don't understand why Walkers is colored in purple in the first post. You're trying to tell me the Walkers might actually be good people? Like deep, deep, down?
Mr_Nobody wouldn't tell me how many "prisoner killers" there were so I doubt he'll reveal the roles for the characters.
But, I used to play Epic Mafia a lot and in that you know ahead of time the roles in the game that people could possibly have so I don't really understand the reasoning behind it.
We should at least have a 'cast list' I mean unless we're all blind we should at least know who's here.
I have noticed cewsh skirted my simple question by throwing out bert's name and it seems everyone has followed his lead.
This makes me suspicious. Group why are we voting bert?
I didn't see your question, I just saw 80 people saying my name. What'd you ask?
I voted Bert because he seemed quick to jump on the vote cwesh bandwagon. While everyone else had made jest about voting cwesh because of D&D Bert stuck with the "you guys wait and see when he kills you all." I think he doth protest too much.
I think what needs to be decided is are we willing to sit by idly and let the Mafia take the first shot? There are advantages and disadvantages to both.
Bert most likely voted cewsh because forum realtionships
Cewsh dodged a question and another question from judas. This is a man who doesn't miss a beat and somehow missed my question and blamed it on people voting for him. Yet several votes before my posts were for grim and bert.
Cewsh is a very active board games member and spends 99% of his life on the internet. He sees all.
I am still holding my vote but cewsh is a very dangerous man.
But if we act in error then we make the situation worse than if we'd done nothing.
The disadvantage of a first day lynch is that the mafia can (likely) 100% jump together on someone they know is NOT mafia and have them lynched. While that is a "disadvantage", it also helps us go "awww shit, both of those players jumped on the same bandwagon and lynched someone who ended up being town - maybe we should be suspicious of them".
As I said before, unless we have a town killer (unlikely) or we get lucky with a bus driver role to switch the mafia into killing themselves, lynching is pretty much the only way to get rid of the scum. The other killing roles would be independent and likely entirely out for themselves, possibly with something like a sole survivor win condition.
We can make an uninformed decision on D1 for a lynch based not on what any of our townie roles reveal during the night but by posts, poster activity or just random voting.
UNVOTE
Cewsh. Evasive, destroyer of D&D game.
Bert. Riding the Cewsh train hard with no evidence
Timesplitter. No posts since confirmation, randomly drops in and votes Bert... is it because that is the train that is closest to the Lynch Station?
Grimario. Completely innocent.
Torn. Assessing his options for 8 hours.
Psycho666, mth, Bennedy, Mills. Completely inactive in thread since confirmed participation.
This is the kind of analysis a nerd like me does.
Yes and no. Blind D1 lynch lets us look at vote patterns... let's say the eventual lynched person is town. Unless the mafia have been extremely good at convincing people to vote for that person, it's almost certain that on a D1 blind lynch they will have jumped on the bandwagon to push that lynch (that they know is NOT mafia) into fruition. And on the flipside, if we get lucky and 9 town/neutral folk manage to lynch a scum, straight away we can look at people who did NOT vote for their scum partner to be lynched and be suspicious of them.
If we lynch someone we have a shot at killing off a mafia member, no? If we don't we get nothing.
Exactly. And lynching is our only way to kill mafia unless we have a killing role of some sort which is generally not the case.
Just read the rules again, sorry for the edit up there. Didn't change anything but add the last sentence. Please don't MODKILL me, it won't happen ever ever again.
Rick Grimes
Daryl Dixon
Michonne
Sgt. Abraham Ford
Andrea
Dale
Axel
Dexter
Andrew
Thomas
Hershal
Walker(s?)
Soo... all the prisoners were marked in purple in the write up... does this mean we don't know if they are scum or not? Given that the write up makes Thomas appear to have killed Tyrese (town but NPC), you would have to assume Thomas is mafia. Also, depending on how many Walkers there are, it appears we have 4 cast members not revealed.
EBWOP - Tyrese might not be NPC actually... Tyrese might well come back as a Walker.
Aye, with my meds I have a habit of writing something then reading it back and realising I ballsed, then changing it.
Must try and remember not to...
Just stuck Post-It on laptop much to my wifes' amusement
Judas is ok. He only added that last bit. Nothing of concern.
What are psycho, mth, Bennedy and mills hiding with their silence, hmmmmm?
My vote for Bert comes solely from him throwing the first accusation with no justifiable reason. I'm not apart of the D&D game here, and if that is the only basis for bias against Cewsh, then that is why my vote goes to Bert.
Vote Count
Cewsh - 2 (Bert, Judas Iscariot)
Bert - 3 (Kneeneighbor, Cewsh, Time Splitter)
Grimario - 2 (The Rick, kdestiny)
No Lynch - 1 (HHHnFoley_Rulez)
Added who's voting for who. Forgot to do this with the other ones.
No one is part of the D&D game anymore because Cewsh is a Dewsh. :cry:
Think Bennedy is probably silent because he forgot he signed up, kind of like RFF. mth is probably busy making sure his beard is tremendous... and I don't really know enough about psycho or Mills to comment.
I haven't chimed in yet because I'm a little overwhelmed. Need to read through the thread and try to figure out what in the hell I'm doing. Also, had it in my mind we'd be playing in character so I was all set to be __________ and now I've got to recalibrate.
Why hasn't virm cast a vote, hmmmm?
Whoa, i totally attempted to throw someone under the bus already Grim, but still looking at the landscape
I wonder if ill wind up changing my vote simply so we can lynch someone and possibly get a mafia member, hmmmmm?
Alright I've read through everything and still don't feel like I've got my sea legs yet so VOTE: No Lynch for now.
Vote Count
Cewsh - 2 (Bert, Judas Iscariot)
Bert - 3 (Kneeneighbor, Cewsh, Time Splitter)
Grimario - 2 (The Rick, kdestiny)
No Lynch - 2 (HHHnFoley_Rulez, mth)
Usually in these circumstances i vote for the person who isnt active, i hate carrying the baggage. However, we have two very polarizing people in Cewsh and Bert, both determined to kill the other... decisions decisions
VOTE Bennedy
Silence is golden.
Also, he is probably a liability for whichever team he is on.
Vote Count
Cewsh - 2 (Bert, Judas Iscariot)
Bert - 3 (Kneeneighbor, Cewsh, Time Splitter)
Grimario - 2 (The Rick, kdestiny)
No Lynch - 2 (HHHnFoley_Rulez, mth)
Bennedy - 1 (Grimario)
Im going no lynch, we dont know nearly enough about who or what is going on
Even despite all the reasons why a No Lynch is a terrible idea?
What's the benefit?
As town, the only failsafe way to get rid of mafia is to lynch. As mafia, you can persuade people to lynch town folk or you can kill them at night. So, basically, one of us town folk will be dead overnight which means the balance is a little bit more in favour of the mafia come the next day phase... and if they pick off our investigative roles then next day phase, we are no closer to having a clue as to who the mafia is and we then have a D2 blind lynch situation yet again.
Or we can lynch a survivor, which ends the game that much sooner
Not necessarily. Like I said before, the decision to lynch can help identify who is and isn't scum by vote patterns.
Essentially, Lynch = chance at scum gone, No Lynch = guarantee no scum gone. Given that someone will almost certainly die in the night phase, lynching should be a no brainer.
Grim is absolutely right if you think about it. I'm a n00b at this too, but not lynching gives townsfolk no benefit whatsoever and is probably just going to make things harder going forward.
No lynch means the mafia is just going to kill someone anyway and we'll be in the same exact situation. Someone's gotta die, folks. If we're lucky, we'll get a member of the mob.
Righto, I get what you're saying about No Lynch being dumb. So, UNVOTE on that and VOTE: uh....Judas. :dunno: Please don't be mad, Judas.
Fair enough...
UNVOTE
I vote to lynch BENNEDY
Or not.
UNVOTE
I vote to lynch PSYCHO666SOLDIER
:chin: Slightly interesting reactions.
Unvote.
Vote: Cewsh
Vote Count
Cewsh - 3 (Bert, Judas Iscariot, HHHnFoley_Rulez)
Bert - 3 (Kneeneighbor, Cewsh, Time Splitter)
Grimario - 2 (The Rick, kdestiny)
Bennedy - 1 (Grimario)
Judas Iscariot - 1 (mth)
Psycho666Soldier - 1 (Mills)
You are still angry I fucked up your RFF team that time, aren't you.
Not much discussion to be had until we know more info. It is very hard to come up with a valid reason to lynch someone at this point in the game. However, I am aware of the dangers of a no lynch. Will be casting my vote later.
You have no idea :cry:
Some thoughts/questions for the group to consider...
Once we lynch someone we find out who they were/are, yes? Which means at each stage we'll know the balance of characters (which I note we still don't seem to have worked out a full list of)
Since this is Walking Dead are we in danger of increasing the number of Walkers as we lynch?
Are there any characters from the show/comic we should try and look out for, is there someone who turns out to be a spy/lunatic who could be the same here, if we can somehow identify them then we can get rid asap.
Is it worth trying to identify character/player types and links and are we better off eliminating Players we don't trust or trying for characters?
When is our time up? We need to make some progress here if we are gonna lynch someone
I'm kind of curious as to why the people who are voting for me are voting for me. I haven't actually done anything thus far but respond to Bert's vote.
So bert was agressive, cewsh is still dodging answers and bennedy appears to be already dead or in hiding.
VOTE CEWSH.
About 6 hours I think.
There is no reason.
People say you are suspicious when a poster is too aggressive, but you are also targeted if you are too quiet. No one has any idea who to vote for.
Is there not a limit on how many times a poster can unvote? I think it would be better, rather than having somebody change their mind every few hours.
I think the first round of voting is the toughest, because there is no motive for anybody to be/not be lynched.
It is for sure the hardest. It is just pot luck. Someone needs to be lynched, but there is no motive and not enough reason for us to all agree on one person.
I'm suspicious of everyone.
Particularly Bert and Cewsh.
Mostly Bert.
I like Cewsh, and I like Bert.
I'm conflicted.
It's tough... I feel like I need to make a different decision.
Unvote
VOTE Bert
Alright so, everyone is saying that lynching is a good idea, and Bert is picking up the most votes with 4 currently, so I will VOTE BERT to further roll this bandwagon on. That was easy.
So now, will be interesting to see if any of the non Bert voters claiming lynching is a must will jump on this bandwagon and follow through on their desire to lynch someone, and if not... suspicion :chin:
That is truth. We don't have much time and someone has to go or this is all for naught anyway.
Yep. I hate doing it but...
VOTE Bert
Vote Count
Cewsh - 4 (Bert, Judas Iscariot, HHHnFoley_Rulez, virmicious)
Bert - 5 (Kneeneighbor, Cewsh, Time Splitter, kdestiny, Torn)
Grimario - 1 (The Rick)
Bennedy - 1 (Grimario)
Judas Iscariot - 1 (mth)
Psycho666Soldier - 1 (Mills)
And at this point, you have a little over 3 hours left.
Vote Count
Cewsh - 4 (Bert, Judas Iscariot, HHHnFoley_Rulez, virmicious)
Bert - 6 (Kneeneighbor, Cewsh, Time Splitter, kdestiny, Torn, Bennedy)
Grimario - 1 (The Rick)
Bennedy - 1 (Grimario)
Judas Iscariot - 1 (mth)
Psycho666Soldier - 1 (Mills)
Meh, still not sure about this.
VOTE Bert
I am right in assuming when someone is lynched we find out their character though, yes?
I assume that is what the story sections between the day and night phases will be about. Otherwise I'm not sure how we'll know who has won.
Yeah, it'll be in the narrative. Like "[Forum Name] has been eliminated. He was [Char name] [Role]" (or a variation on that).
It's odd how people, like Grim, say 'we really need to lynch someone' then vote for a guy with no votes.
Almost like they don't want someone to be lynched, eh?
Seeing as we need 9 to lynch (currently at 7), lets see people doing what they "believe we should do" - or have we found ourselves a prisoner already?
Heck, maybe I'll up the ante.
Unvote.
Vote: Bert.
That'll make 8. Your move, prisoners...
So what we're circling round here is vote Bert or you're a Prisoner?
I've never played one of these but it seems an early stage to be so definite, or is that the point?
Agree. Its gonna be interesting to see who does/ does not push the button here.
We really want to vote Bert over someone who dodged questions and lied?
Someone has gotta die, virm. We have about two and a half hours left. If you can convince folks to move to Cewsh I'm all for it.
Otherwise, the button has to be pushed, m8.
Yeah, meant to answer some of the questions for earlier.
Yes, once someone is either lynched in the Day Phase or killed in the Night Phase, then their role and alignment will be revealed.
There are still characters that have yet to be revealed yet, but it is mainly due to the narrative of the story. And this story is a mixture of both the TV series and comic series, by evidence of Daryl Dixon (who is in the TV series, yet not in the comic book) and Sgt. Ford (who is in the comic book, but not on the TV series).
If you want to see other games I've ran on here, here are links to the four previous games on here:
https://forums.rajah.com/showthread....7-Mafia-Game-1
https://forums.rajah.com/showthread....n-the-Kitchen)
https://forums.rajah.com/showthread....-The-Invasion)
https://forums.rajah.com/showthread....Back-to-Basics
These may help with strategy or game play.
Vote Count
Cewsh - 4 (Bert, Judas Iscariot, virmicious)
Bert - 7 (Kneeneighbor, Cewsh, Time Splitter, kdestiny, Torn, HHHnFoley_Rulez, Rip)
Grimario - 1 (The Rick)
Bennedy - 1 (Grimario)
Judas Iscariot - 1 (mth)
Psycho666Soldier - 1 (Mills)
Remember, with 16 players, it takes 9 to lynch.
I just read through some of the first Mafia game.
Cewsh is VERY VERY shrewd. I'll leave it at that since I still don't entirely know what's going on.
Who else voted for Cewsh? Says four but only 3 there.
And my vote for Bert is missing. I am very suspicious of Mr. Nobody. Hmmmmmmm.