Madden 20 PS4 League - S2 Starting Soon

Team List

NFC South
Mikey Jones (Panthers)
BBF (Saints)

NFC North
Alex (Packers)
Beefy (Bears)
Chris Scott (Vikings)

NFC East
Torn (Cowboys) - On Vacation

NFC West
JuveLeo (49ers)

AFC East
kdestiny (Bills)
Caito (Patriots)
CWE (Dreadnoughts)

AFC West
GBF (Chiefs) - On Rage

AFC North
Honey Badger (Ravens)
Pablo (Diablos)

Rajah Super Bowl XVI Outright market:
Kdestiny 4/5
Beefy 9/2
Mikey_Jones 5/1
Alex 12/1
Pablo 14/1
Honey Badger 16/1
Juve Leo 40/1
BBF 66/1
Caito 300/1
Loconut 1000/1
CWE 5000/1
Chris Scott 50,000/1

RAJAH SUPER BOWL HONOURS BOARD

Super Bowl I
The AI (49ers) beat The Rick (Broncos)

Super Bowl II
Mikey Jones (Colts) beat Chris Dolmeth (Seahawks)

Super Bowl III
Chris Dolmeth (Seahawks) beat Mikey Jones (Colts)

Super Bowl IV
Mikey Jones (Colts) beat MMH (Saints)

Super Bowl V
Pablo Diablo (Texans) beat Mikey Jones (Buccaneers)

Super Bowl VI
Beefy (Bulldogs) beat kdestiny (Raiders)

Super Bowl VII
kdestiny (Raiders) beat Mikey Jones (Buccaneers)

Super Bowl VIII
Morrison (Jaguars) beat Mikey Jones (Buccaneers)

Super Bowl IX
kdestiny (Bears) beat Pablo Diablo (Diablos)

Super Bowl X
Mikey (Ravens) beat Matthew (Rams)

Super Bowl XI
Pablo Diablo (Diablos) beat AI Matthew (Rams)

Super Bowl XII
Beefy (Celtic Tigers) beat CWE (Thunderbirds)

Super Bowl XIII
kdestiny (Bills) beat Mikey (Panthers)

Super Bowl XIV
Alex (Packers) beat kdestiny (Bills)

Super Bowl XV
kdestiny (Bills) beat Mikey (Panthers)


INDIVIDUAL HONOURS

Super Bowl Championships
kdestiny - 4 (VII, IX, XIII, XV) (Reigning Champion)
Mikey Jones - 3 (II, IV, X)
Beefy - 2 (VI, XII)
Pablo Diablo - 2 (V, XI)
Alex - 1 (XIV)
AI - 1 (I)
Chris Dolmeth - 1 (III)
Morrison - 1 (VIII)

Super Bowl Appearances
Mikey Jones - 9 (II, III, IV, V, VII, VIII, X, XIII, XV)
kdestiny - 6 (VI, VII, IX, XIII, XIV, XV)
Pablo Diablo - 3 (V, IX, XI)
Beefy - 2 (VI, XII)
Chris Dolmeth - 2 (II, III)
Matthew - 2 (X, XI)
AI - 1 (I)
Alex - 1 (XIV)
CWE - 1 (XII)
MMH - 1 (IV)
Morrison - 1 (VIII)
The Rick - 1 (I)

I'm in. Happy to do whatever draft and play style works best for the group.

We should probably do something to even the playing field a little. Super teams should only get built through smart Drafting and reasonable trades. When every human player has a super team all of the variables that make strategy fun are out the window.

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Originally Posted by GOLDBERG'S BEST FRIEND

We should probably do something to even the playing field a little. Super teams should only get built through smart Drafting and reasonable trades. When every human player has a super team all of the variables that make strategy fun are out the window.

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Yeah this is probably my main concern with the auto draft suggestion.

I can also see how the auto draft could be incredibly fun. I will let you guys hash out the specifics but it's not as appealing to the bottom tier of players.

If everyone is an 86 overall there's a better chance for me and the other lesser players to still compete. When everyone is a 92 overall, there are no longer specialized strategies. Everyone is just sort of good at everything and it feels like you don't have a chance. Just my thoughts, but I really don't care how it all shakes out. I'm playing no matter what.

I think we need to trial a random draft to see what the teams come out like before we commit as in theory it's a good idea but you never know.

Draft board to allow auto drafting is huge for us.

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Originally Posted by GOLDBERG'S BEST FRIEND

I can also see how the auto draft could be incredibly fun. I will let you guys hash out the specifics but it's not as appealing to the bottom tier of players.

If everyone is an 86 overall there's a better chance for me and the other lesser players to still compete. When everyone is a 92 overall, there are no longer specialized strategies. Everyone is just sort of good at everything and it feels like you don't have a chance. Just my thoughts, but I really don't care how it all shakes out. I'm playing no matter what.

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Honestly I think you will be competitive next year. Don't forget you have came into the league lateish each year so are always playing catch up with everyone else. I remember Alex was rubbish in his first year and now he is able to compete against anyone.

Alex was brilliant in his first year. He made the Conference Championship where he lost to the 49ers but he should have won that season.

Season two then I assume. Everything is one year out for me as I didnt play season one.

I'm in.

I think it's a fair point that we would have to try the random draft to see how it works out in a trial run.

Can I still get in this? I have a PS4 and I'm planning to land Madden 18 on the release date.

YES!

We definitely welcome new blood. And you'll be starting this franchise the same time as us.

Awesome. Sounds good. I'll have to look through the old Madden 17 thread to get an idea of how to play. Has anyone snagged up the Cincinnati Bengals yet? Do we do a fantasy draft or use current rosters?

That is the current decision that we are trying to make.

I'm definitely in for M18. I feel like the gatekeeper for the Super Bowl

Bears - kdestiny
Bobby Wagner - MLB - 96
Landon Collins - SS - 93
Damon Harrison - DT - 92
QB is Trevor Siemian - 78

Bills - Beefy
Malcolm Butler - CB - 95
Harrison Smith - FS - 95
KJ Wright - ROLB - 88
QB is Teddy Bridgewater - 81

Broncos - son_of_foley
T.Y Hilton - WR - 93
LeSean McCoy - HB - 93
Linval Joseph - DT - 91
QB is Derek Carr - 90

Browns - Torn
Ben Roethlisberger - QB - 93
Ezekiel Elliot - HB - 92
Andrew Whitworth - LT - 92
QB is Ben Roethlisberger - 93

Buccaneers - Honey Badger
Brandon Graham - LE - 96
Mike Evans - WR - 92
Kelechi Osemele - LG -92
QB is Blake Bortles - 76

Chargers - BBF
Trent WIlliams - LT - 98
Alex Mack - C - 93
Martellus Bennett - TE - 92
QB is Kirk Cousins - 86

Cowboys - Miotch
Rob Gronkowski - TE - 99
Travis Frekerick - C - 95
Fletcher Cox - DT - 93
QB is Dak Prescott - 87

Dolphins - Pablo
Doug Baldwin - WR - 92
Alshon Jeffery - WR - 89
LeGarrette Blount - HB -88
QB is Marcus Mariota - 83

Eagles - Morrison
Von Miller - LOLB - 99
Jordy Nelson - WR - 93
Gerald McCoy - DT - 92
QB is Ryan Tannehill - 85

Falcons - Fro
Cameron Jordan - RE - 94
Marcus Peters - CB - 90
Jordan Howard - HB - 88
QB is Tyrod Taylor - 83

Jaguars - Alex
Le'Veon Bell - HB - 99
Zack Martin - RG - 97
Antonio Gates - TE - 91
QB is Cam Newton - 89

Jets - Grim
Andrew Luck - QB - 92
Janoris Jenkins - CB - 90
Jamie Collins Sr - LOLB - 89
QB is Andrew Luck - 92

Lions - CWE
Travis Kelce - TE - 99
Patrick Peterson - CB - 92
Marcus Gilbert - RT - 91
QB is Philip Rivers - 86

Rams - Matthew
Greg Olsen - TE - 99
Earl Thomas III - FS - 96
Desmond Trufant - CB - 92
QB is Deshone Kizer - 77

Ravens - Mikey
Tom Brady - QB - 99
David Bakhtiari - LT - 92
Shaq Thompson - LOLB - 86
QB is Tom Brady - 99

Seahawks - GBF
Aaron Rodgers - QB - 99
Delanie Walker - TE - 95
Devin McCourty - FS - 94
QB is Aaron Rodgers - 99

Titans - MMH
Eric Berry - SS - 94
Russell Wilson - QB - 92
Kyle Juszczyk - FB - 91
QB is Russell Wilson - 92

Fantasy draft sounds really fun. Play as your favorite team with your own built roster.

So the one thing is we were going to do a completely random draft with no one actually drafting. The main issue with doing a proper fantasy draft is that it's tough to get people together to do the regular draft, and then we typically only get all those people for the first couple rounds.

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Originally Posted by Honey_Badger

Can I still get in this? I have a PS4 and I'm planning to land Madden 18 on the release date.

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Welcome home.

I'm in.

Honey Badger where do you live? Generally North American players get teams from one conference and rest of world gets the other. It makes it easier to schedule games since you'll play your own conference more often. North America gets the NFC this year I believe.

As far as drafts go I would say let's test the results with one random draft. I can't imagine there's going to be TOO much disparity between teams. I also like that it's random. With that said I think if we do it this way we might consider sticking to trades being fair game, especially for the first season? I do think this would be a ton of fun though.

I will be making a triumphant return and will be IN

I live in Cincinnati, OH.

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Originally Posted by Honey_Badger

I live in Cincinnati, OH.

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Oh snap. The Nati. You'll be happy to know that in last year's game Carlos Dunlap held the all time single season sack record. (for a season)

This is good news though. The North American side can use some more players.

I'm here and ready to play.

Just please, don't force me to use Andy Dalton as my QB. LOL.

LOL!!!!

Not sure trades should be fair game regardless of the set up. Trade with each other.

Yeah pointless to change everything but still have trades how they are now. Nobodies team resembles a real life one regardless after a few weeks.

A limit would work.

I'd be good with a limit. It would allow you to make an upgrade here or there, but not tear down the entire thing. Other trade rule ideas would include:

- Not being able to trade future draft picks to sweeten a pot
- Not being allowed to trade up into the first round for an additional first round pick. Maybe we allow people to trade up, but this would prohibit the entire first round essentially being us.
- No limit on number of draft day trades during the draft, though the above should still possibly apply
- Throwing out an idea for trade limits, but we each could be allowed two in season trades and one off season trade per year?

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Originally Posted by Miotch

I'd be good with a limit. It would allow you to make an upgrade here or there, but not tear down the entire thing. Other trade rule ideas would include:

- Not being able to trade future draft picks to sweeten a pot
- Not being allowed to trade up into the first round for an additional first round pick. Maybe we allow people to trade up, but this would prohibit the entire first round essentially being us.
- No limit on number of draft day trades during the draft, though the above should still possibly apply
- Throwing out an idea for trade limits, but we each could be allowed two in season trades and one off season trade per year?

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i think this is a good foundation to build from.

not allowing the inclusion of draft picks in trades would at least make a person have to give up more active roster members to make the trade go through, or give up someone that's got a higher rating and more valuable, which would put a check on lop-sided trades.

i think limiting the first round of the draft is a good idea, too. only one pick in the first round per user team, and you have to stay at the pick you land? cause i'd hate to see half the user teams trade up so that the entire first eight picks of the draft are all user teams, cause this can be just as bad as multiple user picks in the first round, especially in weaker draft classes.

putting a number limit on trades would also help. i also wonder if there is a good way to incentivize user to user trades. definitely don't put a limit on user to user trades.

I'd like in this if possible.

YESSSS More new blood.

If we do the random draft then I guess team pick doesn't matter quite as much except figuring out who is in which division.

I do think if we do the auto draft then there isn't really as much of a need to limit player trades right? All of the teams should be fairly even.

As far as draft picks I do think we need to keep out of the ridiculousness of having 25 of the 32 picks be users. Though I don't see a problem trading up in the first round as long as you are giving up your first round pick to trade up? Though that might be getting too specific and we may be better off just not doing it anyways.

Edit: Did see that it looks like the worst team in the NFC is the Rams, but with the Watkins trade that could mean it's the 49ers now perhaps

The reason we'd want to limit our trades even with even squads to begin with is to prevent someone from abusing the AI to create a team that is head and shoulders above right away. Obviously we want teams ot improve with the draft and you can tweak your team, we just want to avoid a situation where you've traded away a 4th and 5th pick in the draft 4 seasons from now, to get a stud player.

I also want to clarify that you should be able to trade your picks for the current season, but not for future seasons, at least before the draft, as I was suggesting above.

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Originally Posted by Miotch

I also want to clarify that you should be able to trade your picks for the current season, but not for future seasons, at least before the draft, as I was suggesting above.

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This I think we should absolutely go with. I think those can be overvalued a bit for sure.

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Originally Posted by CWE

I'd like in this if possible.

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Awesome. This is the best non-podcast activity on Rajah.

morrison did the qb sneak in the afc title game and the result should be changed because of this

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Originally Posted by GOLDBERG'S BEST FRIEND

Awesome. This is the best non-podcast activity on Rajah.

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i mean i don't want to sound elitist. just don't know if it is a good idea to have some random dude who looks to just pop in to the forums for a bit and leave for a month or two or however long.

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Originally Posted by MMH

Yeah pointless to change everything but still have trades how they are now. Nobodies team resembles a real life one regardless after a few weeks.

A limit would work.

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my team stayed basically the same all madden 17, i think i only had to replace a rb, so fuck you

Except you named them all Dick or Brett Favre II. Don't forget that.

Also CWE is pretty reliable in the board games forum. He's a trusted mafia man.

okay you can vouch for him but if he flakes out, you can no longer be black.

BrettRod Favre II, get it right.

the dick line was amazing.

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Originally Posted by BBF

I will be making a triumphant return and will be IN

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Same but without the triumphant bit.

I miss you cunts.

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Originally Posted by Pablo Diablo

Except you named them all Dick or Brett Favre II. Don't forget that.

Also CWE is pretty reliable in the board games forum. He's a trusted mafia man.

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he posted three times in the month of july and this was his first post in august. i'm all for new people, and i'm not saying to not let him join, but these new members need to know what they're getting themselves into as far as how often games need to be played and scheduling practices. we kept a very quick pace this past game, i'd hate for that to get fucked up.

I play ps4 everyday. Don't worry about that with me.

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Originally Posted by kdestiny

I do think if we do the auto draft then there isn't really as much of a need to limit player trades right? All of the teams should be fairly even.

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I'd say the opposite - if everyone has a roughly equal squad then it removes the justification for making shitty trades which has often been to try to drag the team up

Agreed

I might be in but I need to buy a PS4. When would I need to be set up by?

Also just curious do you guys all buy digital or do you buy hard copies and get any money back for trading in last year's version of Madden?

Trading in gets you next to nothing unfortunately. I usually go digital but this year bought the disc. I'll just give it to a friend probably (or frame it to commemorate my Super Bowl victory).

Gotcha, so when would I need to have a PS4 in order to join this league?

The sooner the better but you can join at any time.

You can join whenever you want - doesn't have to be week one. We usually start the league the first weekend of the real NFL season which would be three weeks time but that date isn't set in stone yet for this year.

I'm hopeful that will actually be able to work for me by the way.

I'm in, and I should be set up in time for the draft.

FUCK YES.

so i preordered the GOAT edition which lets me access the game starting on at midnight. pretty sure it pre-installed a couple days ago, so i'll probably do a mock league and draft tonight, and likely stream it, just to see what shakes out.

ooh interesting

i'll start and auto draft, and then take a look at the teams based on who we all were last game just as a point of reference since we havent picked yet for this season.

probably be partied up with matthew for some banter. hes preordered as well, so if his game installs in a decent amount of time we'll play some draft champs or some shit.

Awesome.

Looks like I will be live in an hour as well.

Anyone live yet?

I'm not going to be on for another 2 hours but I will stream a draft champs later.

Apparently its called MUT drafts this year and its 20 rounds now instead of 15. Also the first round is no longer a QB round.

i'm about to hop on.

http://twitch.tv/swingkungfu37

i'm live.

broadcast should be archived. i start off making a league and doing the auto draft.

did it two times. first time, highest OVR for a team was the seahawks at 89. lowest was an 82. second time, highest rated team was a tie with a handful of teams at 87, with the lowest rated an 82. i imagine a team getting an OVR of 79 or below is unlikely given the pool of talent getting drafted. i wouldn't be surprised if there manages to be a 90 OVR team when the draft finishes. but it seems most of the teams fell between an 83-86 OVR. the builds of teams will certainly be interesting. a lot of teams ended up with mid 70 OVR QB's as their starters. every team had a clear deficiency or two, with no team looking stacked, in a general sense. in one of the drafts the jags had a pretty great defense, but a terrible o-line.

overall, i think this will definitely work for what we're trying to accomplish. it'll make logging in and looking at our teams for the first time exciting. beefy will have to start the league and do the draft on stream and skip to the end of the draft, because as commish, when you start a league with a fantasy draft you automatically get the first pick and i don't think we can trust him not to quickly select odell as his first pick and then force the rest.

before the draft, we'll just need to get teams picked. i assume we keep things divided by region and conference, NA going NFC this year with The World going AFC, with pabs and torn doing a trade out. i'm sure there's debate and ideas about how those teams get picked. i know torn and i have expressed interest in being the eagles and cowboys again. keeping at least two users in divisions would be nice.

:squint:

My only real reservation about this process is the AI being an idiot and having shit drafting logic. It'll be good to run a few practices and see if there are any cases of one team drafting Rodgers and Cam, for example.

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Originally Posted by Morrison

broadcast should be archived. i start off making a league and doing the auto draft.

did it two times. first time, highest OVR for a team was the seahawks at 89. lowest was an 82. second time, highest rated team was a tie with a handful of teams at 87, with the lowest rated an 82. i imagine a team getting an OVR of 79 or below is unlikely given the pool of talent getting drafted. i wouldn't be surprised if there manages to be a 90 OVR team when the draft finishes. but it seems most of the teams fell between an 83-86 OVR. the builds of teams will certainly be interesting. a lot of teams ended up with mid 70 OVR QB's as their starters. every team had a clear deficiency or two, with no team looking stacked, in a general sense. in one of the drafts the jags had a pretty great defense, but a terrible o-line.

overall, i think this will definitely work for what we're trying to accomplish. it'll make logging in and looking at our teams for the first time exciting. beefy will have to start the league and do the draft on stream and skip to the end of the draft, because as commish, when you start a league with a fantasy draft you automatically get the first pick and i don't think we can trust him not to quickly select odell as his first pick and then force the rest.

before the draft, we'll just need to get teams picked. i assume we keep things divided by region and conference, NA going NFC this year with The World going AFC, with pabs and torn doing a trade out. i'm sure there's debate and ideas about how those teams get picked. i know torn and i have expressed interest in being the eagles and cowboys again. keeping at least two users in divisions would be nice.

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How did you go about finding ratings? I dropped off the stream and didn't end up seeing what the ratings were.

He invited Matthew to the league and when he joined he was able to scroll through each available team.

Also the commishj doesn't automatically end up with the first pick. Morrison didn't the second time around. He tooled around the rosters and I didn't see any team with 2 baller quarterbacks.

I am confident this will work well and be fun. Trades should be allowed, but I think limiting AI trades to 2 is the way to go.

We should have Pablo do a draw for team picking order and decide who is NFC and who is AFC, then pick teams before the draft.

Pablo Diablo, owner of the fire shirt.

We don't need to do a draw to decide any of that. We're flipping Conferences as planned and we can just agree who is who. We've always worked through stuff like that.

Let's leave the trade/house rules discussion for now.

Why wouldn't we draw? It would be fun, and it doesn't really matter what team you are since it's going to be a new roster anyways.

Plus, people have expressed desires to possibly flip groups. Torn may want to do the NFC again, and Pablo was saying he thinks he'd be better off with the Brits because of timeline. What would that mean for Grim then, and, subsequently, what would that mean for the shape of the conferences? I thought it worked rather well with the balance of last year, though I suppose that's not required.

Also stop decreeing things. We are having discussions. You aren't the boss.

This was agreed a year ago. Stop trying to pick me up on every thing. It's so tedious. You don't like me, I get it.

If Pabs wants to swap divisions that's fine. If Torn wants to swap divisions that's fine. We're all adults and we can agree things without having to do a draw and have a set time period to HAVE DISCUSSIONS.

When did you guys stop liking each other? :lol:

Seriously what's up your ass? I don't dislike you, but people seem engaged in discussing this stuff. I know you love to have control over every situation, and it may feel like you're losing some of that with other people having good suggestions, but you will still be the commissioner and head boss/admin of the league. Don't worry. No one is trying to take that from you.

I suppose we could just close the thread all together until we start the league to prevent people from making suggestions.

Love you babs.

That is literally the opposite of what I'm saying. Why would we do a draw instead of discussing things and agreeing to do something that we all want to do? We've got weeks to agree.

We've never needed to do a draw to agree teams in the past and no one has ever been forced to play in a Conference or with a team that wasn't their preference. If it ain't broke why try to fix it through getting Pablo to do a draw? :lol:

As for Commisioner and head boss/admin of the league who could care less about that? Anyone can set the league up. If Morrison has the game now he's more than welcome to do it (although it might IN MY OPINION be wise to wait for patches etc).

Anyone else is absolutely more than welcome to be the guy who screws kdestiny over on draft day annually :cool:

I'm the new commish. I have decreed it.

Ideally someone who isn't likely to come home one night and decide to delete the league because he doesn't like something unrelated that has happened on the forum.

Don't detract from your moderator infighting by projecting on to me.

I don't want to be commish. At all. I would just do it if I wanted.

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That is literally the opposite of what I'm saying. Why would we do a draw instead of discussing things and agreeing to do something that we all want to do? We've got weeks to agree.

We've never needed to do a draw to agree teams in the past and no one has ever been forced to play in a Conference or with a team that wasn't their preference. If it ain't broke why try to fix it through getting Pablo to do a draw? :lol:

As for Commisioner and head boss/admin of the league who could care less about that? Anyone can set the league up. If Morrison has the game now he's more than welcome to do it (although it might IN MY OPINION be wise to wait for patches etc).

Anyone else is absolutely more than welcome to be the guy who screws kdestiny over on draft day annually :cool:

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1) I think Pablo was happy to do the draw, based on a conversation in chat.
2) I think it might be fun to do it that way. An added bonus is that you have some, but not total, control over what team you are and who is in your division.
3) Teams will need to be agreed upon before the draft if it's going to be completely random.
and 4) A bit of order isn't the worst idea instead of people claiming teams legitimately 6 months ago. Torn wants the Cowboys. Well, what if Fro is a huge, giant, closeted Cowboys fan and wants to be them? Is he shit out of luck because Torn claimed them 6 months before the game even came out?

We don't HAVE to do it this way. I just think it makes some sense and it's fair. If GBF picks after me he can go to a different division if he likes. If he doesn't and I want to be in his division again, my choices are limited.

And for the love of god stop taking everything so fucking seriously in here. You get a lot of stick. Some of it might even actually be deserved. But the shit in here makes zero difference in anything and I certainly don't dislike you because of any of it. Just relax a bit. You say people need to roll with the punches a bit better. I certainly could at times, but mate, so could you.

Also GBF is right that we could use a west coast league co-comissioner. You are also right in that it probably shouldn't be him.

You're right that Fro might come in and really want an NFC East team. But why not just try to agree it between ourselves before seeing if we need to go down the route of doing a draw?

I also think a draw could cause issues rather than resolve them - take the hypothetical situation you're speaking about. Torn & Morrison have been in a division before and love playing each other (like you and GBF want to). Morrison picks first because of a draw and takes the Eagles, Fro then picks the Cowboys. None of that would have needed to happen had we just tried to agree it between ourselves. If Fro wants the Cowboys he should have them and the lads could then take any other division if they want to be together.

I just feel like we're trying to make something needlessly complicated.

I'll take your other comments away with me.

To be fair, we may need to play around with the Divisions as the 'Rest of World' side of things seems way down on the 'US' side of things currently, especially if Torn wants to switch over.

Currently based on who has posted in this thread it looks like:

US Conference
GBF
Pablo Diablo (switching?)
Honey_Badger
Miotch
Super Bowl Champion Morrison
CWE
kdestiny
Matthew
Fro

'Rest of World' Conference
Beefy
Torn (switching?)
MMH
Mikey Jones
BBF
Grimario

No word as yet from Alex or Hurley. Am I missing anyone else?

If need be I could switch as well. My schedule ends up being better to play during the day which is evening for most of those in the rest of the world, so I'm willing to do that if it's needed.

As far as draw, it would be by name and then us choosing teams in that order or a draw for person with a draw for their team?

I really don't care either way. Just looking for clarification.

O don't really understand the question.

He means is the draw to agree order of picking a team within the agreed Conference or will Pabs pick names of posters out of one hat and names of teams for that poster out of a second hat?

EDIT - that's what he's asking. It seemed fairly clear to me that you meant the first one of those.

I don't have any input into the settings and draft since I've never played but obviously I want the Patriots. :cool:

Also I'm going to be truly terrible at this. Haven't played a single game of Madden since the '12 version I think.

As long as we have a West Coast commission and I will be happy. I'm not going to be able to do it due to my leadership and time being too valuable.

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I don't have any input into the settings and draft since I've never played but obviously I want the Patriots. :cool:

Also I'm going to be truly terrible at this. Haven't played a single game of Madden since the '12 version I think.

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I'm legitimately terrible as well and it's probably the funnest thing that I have going on in life outside of my family.

I've nearly beat Morrison and Mikey and a few other real players but totally choked it away. I'm coming for redemption in Madden 18.

If one of you dudes wants to get a game tonight I can go for sure.

I hate you all.

Except Fro. I have no solid opinion on Fro yet.

He's a Patriots fan. What more do you need?

I can stay in the rest of the world, I was non committal over the whole thing. For playoff games I think it's easier for me to arrange playing against the UK lads in the morning my time and if Grim is back then that works there too.

Now we're doing the fantasy draft team choice doesn't really matter that much so having a draw is pointless, Beefy isn't wrong there.

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He's a Patriots fan. What more do you need?

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Oh good point.

I hate Fro more than anybody.

Beefy is always wrong.

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Originally Posted by MMH

I hate you all.

Except Fro. I have no solid opinion on Fro yet.

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Stop trying to pick me up on everything. It's so tedious. You don't like me. I get it.

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Originally Posted by MMH

I hate you all.

Except Fro. I have no solid opinion on Fro yet.

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How can you have gone into the NFL thread and read a post by Fro and NOT hate him?

LOLZ

One thing I will say if we were doing a draw could we set it so that franchises can move at any time or whatever that setting is as I will be relocating whoever I get/am.

As a Rajah Madden HoF first ballot member, I should be commissioner

I don't mind how we decide the teams since it'll all be random anyway