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falconarrow
October 1st, 2004, 9:30 PM
For while the other tourney is still going on. Make your nominations here. We will need 128, who will randomly be placed into teams later (I think 1 hero, 1 villain)

Batman
Robin
Mr. Freeze
Superman
Flash
Green Lantern
Wonder Woman
Green Arrow
Reed Richards
Shredder
Human Torch
Red Skull
Thing
Abomination
Sue Richards
Doctor Doom
Doctor Strange
Spiderman
Megatron
Punisher
Daredevil
Elektra
Bullseye
Doc Oc
Green Goblin
Hobgoblin
KRAVEN
Cat Woman
Joker
Bane
SANDMAN (Spidey villain)
Magneto
Juggernaut
Apocalypse
Mr. Sinister
BANSHEE
Wolverine
Sabretooth
Venom
Carnage
Cyclops
Professor X
Jean Grey
Storm
Rogue
Gambit
Colossus
Thor
Iron Man
Captain America
Hawkeye
Scarlet Witch
HANK PYM
Hulk
Doomsday
Lex Luthor
Megatron
Optimus Prime
Sentinal
Ice Man
Pyro
Blob
Namor
Mystique
Avalanche
THE FURY
Krang
Ralphael
Forge
Bishop
Cable
Stryfe
Ghost Rider
Spawn
Purgatori
DARTH VADER(Dark Horse Comics- Thanks Dave)
Pyro
Brainiac
Slade
Deacon Frost
Kingpin
Violator/The Clown
Sinestro
Ultron
Mongul
SEBASTIAN SHAW
OMEGA RED
Sinestro

Thats 88. Need more. New entries in CAPS

TripleB
October 2nd, 2004, 10:46 PM
Is this going to be the offical tag team tourney?

Zefflin
October 3rd, 2004, 12:13 AM
So what exactly do we have to do?

TRO
October 3rd, 2004, 2:16 AM
Is this going to be the offical tag team tourney?

If it is, I shall endeavor to make an unofficial yet clearly superior one.

Gyoza
October 3rd, 2004, 4:46 AM
Here are a few
(name - comic they appear in)
Edward Hyde - League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Tetsuo - AKIRA
Unit Four - Hard Boiled
Lady Death
Vampira
Poison Ivy
Lady Proctor
The Absorbing Man

falconarrow
October 3rd, 2004, 12:03 PM
Is this going to be the offical tag team tourney?

Just the roster for it.

I'd assume Mr. Nobody would do it, if he wanted to.

But its clear we need to renominate, due partly to the upsets of the first round, and the fact some people just aren't competitive (Tick, Howard the Duck)

With tag team format, we can add stronger names, like the Fury, and Apocalypse.


Deadpool
Beast
Psylocke
Clayface
Black Panther
Morbius
Scarlet Spider
Mr. Sinister
Siege
Blackheart
Rhino
War Machine
Iron Fist
Lilith
Bishop
Death Metal
Multiple Man
Domino
Human Torch
Vision
Annihilus
Scorpion
Deathlok
Shatterstar
Rictor
Sauron
Stryfe
Pryo
Slayback
Darkhawk
EvilHawk
Captain Britain
Batman
Nightwing
Superman
Flash
Green Lantern
Wonder Woman
Green Arrow
Reed Richards
Human Torch
Red Skull
Thing
Abomination
Sue Richards
Doctor Doom
Spiderman
Megatron
Punisher
Daredevil
Elektra
Bullseye
Doc Oc
Green Goblin
Hobgoblin
Kraven
Cat Woman
Joker
Bane
Sandman
Mr. Sinister
Banshee
Wolverine
Sabretooth
Venom
Carnage
Cyclops
Savage Dragon
Storm
Rogue
Gambit
Colossus
Thor
Iron Man
Captain America
Hawkeye
Scarlet Witch
Hulk
Doomsday
Havok
Megatron
Optimus Prime
Sentinal
Ice Man
Pyro
Blob
Namor
Mystique
Forge
Bishop
Cable
Stryfe
Ghost Rider
Spawn
Purgatori
Darth Vader
Pyro
Brainiac
Kingpin
Violator/The Clown
Sinestro
Ultron
Mongul
Omega Red
Sinestro
Boba Fett
Lady Deathstrike
Vampira
The Absorbing Man
Nightcrawler
Archangel
Domino
Sebastian Shaw
Bloodaxe
Jean Grey
Hank Pym
Magneto
Lex Luthor
Avalanche
Starfire
Cyborg
Emma Frost
Mysterio
Kitty Pride
Beast Boy

Impact
October 3rd, 2004, 12:19 PM
HellBoy
Nightcrawler
Sage
Dormammu (If Dr. Strange is in, then surely Dormy could be too.)


I'll add more later.

falconarrow
October 3rd, 2004, 12:20 PM
Nightcrawler.... was he even NOMINATED in the superhero tourney?

Impact
October 3rd, 2004, 12:23 PM
No.

Him vs Spiderman would be quite the fight...:chin:

Enzyme
October 3rd, 2004, 2:38 PM
In terms of phyicality, Spider-Man is far superior.

But if he is quick enough, he could probably remove Spidey's head via teleportation. Though I think he would never take a life, so that's not going to happen.

Nightcrawler has already been amazed by Spidey's speed so he's never going to be faster than him. So sooner or later, Spidey would get a hit in and put him down for the count.

falconarrow
October 3rd, 2004, 2:45 PM
Um. No.

Spidey webs Nightcrawler, he teleports away.

Plus, how does Spidey sense work if someone teleports right on top of you?

All that needs to happen in Nightcrawler to get a hold of Spiderman, teleport rapidly a few times, and knock Spiderman out. He doesn't kill spidey, but still wins.

Gyoza
October 3rd, 2004, 2:59 PM
Yep, I'm pretty sure Spiderman's spidey-sense would go berserk against a foe like Nightcrawler.

Zefflin
October 3rd, 2004, 3:03 PM
Spider-Man would ruin that god prasing bitch.

Impact
October 3rd, 2004, 3:28 PM
:rofl:

I've created quite the stir. :D

Zefflin
October 3rd, 2004, 3:37 PM
Yea...everyone's going completly berserk.

Zefflin
October 3rd, 2004, 3:38 PM
Again, what exactly do we have to do?

Impact
October 3rd, 2004, 3:53 PM
Something useful...like help Falc think up more candidates for the tournament. :yes:

falconarrow
October 3rd, 2004, 4:55 PM
Again, what exactly do we have to do?

Nominate heroes for the tag team tourney.

Being a tag team tourney, having folk like "Mirror Master" on your team would really suck. So there can be more powerful folk like Apocalypse and Fury.

Zefflin
October 3rd, 2004, 5:56 PM
Ummmm, how bout Deadpool, Beast, Silver Surfer, Psylocke, Morbius, Scarlet Spider, Mr. Sinister, Jackal, Siege, Goddess, Thanos, Strong Guy, Bets Ray Bill, Blackheart, Rhino, War Machine, US Agent, Klaw, Molecule Man, Iron Fist, Bloodaxe, Lilith, Bishop, Death Metal, Black Axe, Morg, Dormammu, Multiple Man, Domino, Human Torch, Vision, Vulture, Cyber, Annihilus, Scorpion, Deathlok, Vengeance, Shatterstar, Drax, Phoenix, Terrax, Rictor, Sauron, Arcade, Haven, Stryfe, Pryo, X-Cutioner, Mojo, Brood, Slayback, Sinsear, Mimic, Mesmero, Darkhawk, EvilHawk, and who can forget Captain Britain.

Enzyme
October 3rd, 2004, 6:39 PM
I guess I really should let this go, but...

Um. No.

Spidey webs Nightcrawler, he teleports away.
Can't argue with that.


Plus, how does Spidey sense work if someone teleports right on top of you?

Above him? Standing on his head? Whatever the case, his Spider-Sense would still work. So lets say he teleports above him and goes for a kick. His Spider-Sense would still work fast enough for him to dodge and counter attack. He does dance around gunfire on a daily basis afterall. If that's not what you meant then could you elaborate.

All that needs to happen in Nightcrawler to get a hold of Spiderman, teleport rapidly a few times, and knock Spiderman out. He doesn't kill spidey, but still wins.
What would that do? It's not like teleporting rapidly would hurt him. Teleporting it just like standing still while the rest of the world moves around you. It's not as though Nightcrawler gains speed while teleporting. And even if night crawler was hitting him while he was doing it, he has nowhere hear the power it would take to knock Spidey out.

falconarrow
October 3rd, 2004, 7:23 PM
No.

If Nightcrawler teleports, he arrives in the place before Spiderman can do anything about it to sense it. Its not like a missile, that gets closer and closer. And closer (and I assume sends of detectable shockwaves). There was nothing, then poof, something right on top of him, grabbing him.

As far as I know, the teleporting is instantaneous.

Nightcrawler has used his teleportation as a weapon, and I have read where he used it to knock out someone. He is immune to whatever is in the other dimension, and the traveling between. Others are NOT!

The Brimstone dimension is toxic. Also, his teleporting over distances rushes air out, and is physically exhausting to those (him) not used to it.

I quote:

TELEPORTATION

Nightcrawler teleports by displacing himself into the underdocumented "Darkforce" dimension, which he travels trough until he reemerges in our time-space continuum at his desired location. The entire process occurs so quickly-nearly instantaneously-that he is unaware of having visited another dimension at all. His teleportation power is not psionic but, rather, the result of a chemical biophysical reation that he triggers mentally.
One side effect of Nightcrawler's teleportation is the burst of smoke and a stench reminiscent of burning brimstone. This is a chemical reaction by-product of teleportation. Nightcrawler's teleportation is invariably accompanied by the muffled sound of an implosion of air rushing to fill the vacuum caused by his body's dimensional shift.

Nightcrawler has very limited extrasensory power that prevents him from teleporting himself into a solid wall. The farther he teleports, the more difficult and tiring it is. He most likely has some automatic mechanism that compensates for his momentum, enabling him to "land" safely. Again, it's an automatic compensotory action performed without any conscious effort on his part.

Nightcrawler's teleportation ability depends on his ability to visualize his destination-either by being able to see it or from having seen it in the past. He can teleport himself, the clothes he wears, and within limits, a certain amount of additional matter that is in contact with him. He can even carry a buddy along with him.

The trip itself can be quite unsettling as any matter traveling through the Darkforce dimension is slightly displaced. By taking a foe through a rapid succession of teleports, he can easily stun them into insensibility.

It is easier for him to teleport between north and south along Earth's magnetic lines of force than is it for him to east and west, against them. Under the best circumstances, teleporting only himself and his costume, he can send himself about two miles east-to-west and up to three miles north-to-south. It is difficult and dangerous for him to teleport upward. He once made a vertical teleportational jump of two miles but had to push himself to his physical limits.

When he transports a passenger over even moderate distances, they both feel weakened and ill no the point of exhaustion. Teleportation over further distances might lead to death.

You were saying?:cool:

Jordo
October 3rd, 2004, 7:51 PM
I'll nominate the Punisher, or does his lack of super powers make him someone that would suck to have on your team.

Enzyme
October 3rd, 2004, 8:04 PM
You were saying?:cool:
Well, guess I'm beaten.

Zefflin
October 3rd, 2004, 9:10 PM
Well, guess I'm beaten.

You're not beaten, even if Nightcrawler hit Spidey, it would be like punching a steel wall to him. Spidey wouldn't even flinch.

Nerf Herder
October 3rd, 2004, 9:42 PM
Freakazoid.

:whoa: Worst nomination ever. And yet, I stick to it...

EDIT: Heh, I didn't even notice Freak's avatar.

falconarrow
October 4th, 2004, 11:36 AM
You're not beaten, even if Nightcrawler hit Spidey, it would be like punching a steel wall to him. Spidey wouldn't even flinch.

He doesn't have to punch Spiderman at all.

Just touch him, which considering his agility and teleportation, will be simple.

Then its a matter of bamf bamf bamf bamf bamf, and Spiderman is knocked out. Heck, if spidey is too tough, teleport up and drop him, then teleport back to the ground.

Nightcrawler wins.

Zefflin
October 4th, 2004, 1:37 PM
He doesn't have to punch Spiderman at all.

Just touch him, which considering his agility and teleportation, will be simple.

Then its a matter of bamf bamf bamf bamf bamf, and Spiderman is knocked out. Heck, if spidey is too tough, teleport up and drop him, then teleport back to the ground.

Nightcrawler wins.

Spiderman has webs and even if he couldn't stick to something he still wouldn't die by falling. Nightcrawler would die if he tried that.

Enzyme
October 4th, 2004, 3:53 PM
It is difficult and dangerous for him to teleport upward. He once made a vertical teleportational jump of two miles but had to push himself to his physical limits.
Well if he did that in the middle of a place with nothing for Spider-Man to attatch a webline to, then I'd say that's a fall too far for Spidey to survive.

But going by that description there's all the chance Nightcrawler could faint while doing so and fall to his death aswell.

But don't forget, and I'm ashamed of myself for bringing this into the discussion, but there's always the Web-Parachute.:ashamed:

Zefflin
October 4th, 2004, 10:13 PM
That too.

Cameron
October 4th, 2004, 11:13 PM
Poison Ivy
The Penguin
Kitty Pride

Zefflin
October 5th, 2004, 2:56 PM
So are we ever gonna do this tourney?

Impact
October 5th, 2004, 3:49 PM
Longshot.

Add others later.

I found this while looking for characters...

http://www.ncsoftware.com/images/vondoomsuperman.jpg

:rofl:

OceansMafia
October 5th, 2004, 4:18 PM
Bishop

falconarrow
October 5th, 2004, 4:38 PM
So are we ever gonna do this tourney?

Its after the other tourney is done. This is just a roster.

falconarrow
October 5th, 2004, 4:40 PM
Well if he did that in the middle of a place with nothing for Spider-Man to attatch a webline to, then I'd say that's a fall too far for Spidey to survive.

But going by that description there's all the chance Nightcrawler could faint while doing so and fall to his death aswell.

But don't forget, and I'm ashamed of myself for bringing this into the discussion, but there's always the Web-Parachute.:ashamed:

1.) Spiderman is disoriented. He doesn't know which way is up, he might not even be awake.

2.) Nightcrawler is used to all kinds of teleporting. He will not be affected as bad.

Jimmy Zero
October 5th, 2004, 5:34 PM
Part of Nightcrawler's mutant physiology makes him able to withstand the jarring nature of his teleportations. Even Colossus and Wolverine are severely disoriented when Nightcrawler teleports them once. Even if he didn't teleport him multiple times in a row, Nightcrawler could just teleprt Spiderman's head off. Once is all that would take.

falconarrow
October 5th, 2004, 8:21 PM
I don't know about the head thing. But you make a good point about the effect on superheavy's like Wolverine and Colossus (RIP)

MyMortisha
October 5th, 2004, 8:45 PM
The Crow, Buffy The Vampire Slayer (she has her own comic, published by Darkhorse I beleive), Gambit, Tick, Clayface, Hydroman, Pyro, The Mask, Spot (Spidey-Villain), Star Gladiator, The Hellfire Club, Magneto, Cable, Bishop, Blade, and of course, The Undertaker (who yes did have his own comic book for a while).

Zefflin
October 4th, 2005, 1:00 PM
It's been a year now, I decided I'm bringing this back...since it was never finished. I have here a list of 128 of the best heroes and villians. I just made it and I think it works. If not say something. I'm taking Jean Grey off though because Phoenix is on there...that would mean she has two chances to win. That's not fair. I'm going to randomly select the teams. So tell me who you want off the list and who you want on. Give me some input.

Deadpool
Beast
Psylocke
Clayface
Black Panther
Morbius
Scarlet Spider
Mr. Sinister
Siege
Thanos
Bets Ray Bill
Blackheart
Rhino
War Machine
US Agent
Molecule Man
Iron Fist
Lilith
Bishop
Death Metal
Dormammu
Multiple Man
Domino
Human Torch
Vision
Cyber
Annihilus
Scorpion
Deathlok
Shatterstar
Rictor
Sauron
Stryfe
Pryo
Slayback
Darkhawk
EvilHawk
Captain Britain
Batman
Robin
Superman
Flash
Green Lantern
Wonder Woman
Green Arrow
Reed Richards
Human Torch
Red Skull
Thing
Abomination
Sue Richards
Doctor Doom
Doctor Strange
Spiderman
Megatron
Punisher
Daredevil
Elektra
Bullseye
Doc Oc
Green Goblin
Hobgoblin
Kraven
Cat Woman
Joker
Bane
Sandman
Magneto
Juggernaut
Mr. Sinister
Banshee
Wolverine
Sabretooth
Venom
Carnage
Cyclops
Professor X
Savage Dragon
Storm
Rogue
Gambit
Colossus
Thor
Iron Man
Captain America
Hawkeye
Scarlet Witch
Hulk
Doomsday
Havok
Megatron
Optimus Prime
Sentinal
Ice Man
Pyro
Blob
Namor
Mystique
Forge
Bishop
Cable
Stryfe
Ghost Rider
Spawn
Purgatori
Darth Vader
Pyro
Brainiac
Kingpin
Violator/The Clown
Sinestro
Ultron
Mongul
Omega Red
Sinestro
Boba Fett
Lady Deathstrike
Vampira
The Absorbing Man
Nightcrawler
Archangel
Domino
Sebastian Shaw
Bloodaxe
Jean Grey
Hank Pym
Lex Luthor
Avalanche

Tha Kyd
October 4th, 2005, 2:56 PM
The most powerful adversary in the world... Apocolypse.... And I hope Sinister is my partner

Bill Casey
October 4th, 2005, 3:06 PM
Nightcrawler would be able to knock out Spiderman in several bamfs...
And his teleportation does fool his Spider Sense...

They've been in a couple comics together...

Zefflin
October 4th, 2005, 3:12 PM
Nightcrawler would be able to knock out Spiderman in several bamfs...
And his teleportation does fool his Spider Sense...

They've been in a couple comics together...

Haha...let's get on topic. Who should I take off and replace?

Irish Kamikaze
October 4th, 2005, 3:26 PM
Deadpool
Deathlock
Savage Dragon
Lady Deathstrike
Havok
Beyonder

i'll think of more in a little

edit: ahhh damnit, I was looking at the list on the main page

Zefflin
October 4th, 2005, 3:36 PM
Irish...how's my list look then? Should I start making teams?

I need to know who should get off the list and who should be put on.

Irish Kamikaze
October 4th, 2005, 3:42 PM
definately switch Red Skull for Havok, but I don't know who for Savage Dragon

Zefflin
October 4th, 2005, 3:45 PM
I'll switch Lex Luther for Havok. And Jean Grey for Savage Dragon...done.

Irish Kamikaze
October 4th, 2005, 3:46 PM
good to go then....let's get it on

Zefflin
October 4th, 2005, 4:02 PM
I will soon...I'm just gonna see if anybody else wnats to chance anything. I'll make the teams at like 8 or 9ish.

falconarrow
October 4th, 2005, 8:13 PM
Some of these folks are WAY too powerful. Thanos and Phoenix, Professor X and Apocalypse, Superman, Silver Surfer, Juggernaut, Magneto, Dr. Strange and Dr. Doom could beat most of the list on their own.

ADD:

Quicksilver
Clayface
Shredder
Jean Grey instead of Phoenix
Hank Pym (founding member of the Avengers. AKA Ant Man. Very cool)
Black Panther
Lex Luthor
Avalanche
Deacon Frost



I must admit, I like the possibility of a Darth Vader/Wolverine/Batman combo.

Is this teams of 4 or of 2?

Teams of 4 could also work and be more balanced.

OceansMafia
October 4th, 2005, 10:42 PM
Add Bishop, if he isn't already on the list (My Favorite Superhero :) )

Jimmy Zero
October 5th, 2005, 1:23 AM
Yeah, I think some of those god characters should be taken off. Not Thanos, though. He's too cool.

Of the ones I bothered to read on that list, I'll tell you who I think shouldn't be there:

Any god/omnipotent/all powerful characters. And U.S. Agent. That guy's a total fag.

Into the Black
October 5th, 2005, 3:24 AM
I really like the list... :yes:

Good job pulling this game out from the grave.

Zefflin
October 5th, 2005, 1:08 PM
Some of these folks are WAY too powerful. Thanos and Phoenix, Professor X and Apocalypse, Superman, Silver Surfer, Juggernaut, Magneto, Dr. Strange and Dr. Doom could beat most of the list on their own.

ADD:

Quicksilver
Clayface
Shredder
Jean Grey instead of Phoenix
Hank Pym (founding member of the Avengers. AKA Ant Man. Very cool)
Black Panther
Lex Luthor
Avalanche
Deacon Frost



I must admit, I like the possibility of a Darth Vader/Wolverine/Batman combo.

Is this teams of 4 or of 2?

Teams of 4 could also work and be more balanced.

Yea, you're right. I'll get rid of the god ones. I'll make some switches then I need everyone tell tell me if it's good.

Zefflin
October 5th, 2005, 1:19 PM
Done and done. Here's the final list before I start making teams.

Deadpool
Beast
Psylocke
Clayface
Black Panther
Morbius
Scarlet Spider
Mr. Sinister
Siege
Thanos
Bets Ray Bill
Blackheart
Rhino
War Machine
US Agent
Molecule Man
Iron Fist
Lilith
Bishop
Death Metal
Dormammu
Multiple Man
Domino
Human Torch
Vision
Cyber
Annihilus
Scorpion
Deathlok
Shatterstar
Rictor
Sauron
Stryfe
Pryo
Slayback
Darkhawk
EvilHawk
Captain Britain
Batman
Robin
Superman
Flash
Green Lantern
Wonder Woman
Green Arrow
Reed Richards
Human Torch
Red Skull
Thing
Abomination
Sue Richards
Doctor Doom
Doctor Strange
Spiderman
Megatron
Punisher
Daredevil
Elektra
Bullseye
Doc Oc
Green Goblin
Hobgoblin
Kraven
Cat Woman
Joker
Bane
Sandman
Magneto
Juggernaut
Mr. Sinister
Banshee
Wolverine
Sabretooth
Venom
Carnage
Cyclops
Professor X
Savage Dragon
Storm
Rogue
Gambit
Colossus
Thor
Iron Man
Captain America
Hawkeye
Scarlet Witch
Hulk
Doomsday
Havok
Megatron
Optimus Prime
Sentinal
Ice Man
Pyro
Blob
Namor
Mystique
Forge
Bishop
Cable
Stryfe
Ghost Rider
Spawn
Purgatori
Darth Vader
Pyro
Brainiac
Kingpin
Violator/The Clown
Sinestro
Ultron
Mongul
Omega Red
Sinestro
Boba Fett
Lady Deathstrike
Vampira
The Absorbing Man
Nightcrawler
Archangel
Domino
Sebastian Shaw
Bloodaxe
Jean Grey
Hank Pym
Lex Luthor
Avalanche

Zefflin
October 5th, 2005, 3:20 PM
Wow...that was fucking hard. Here are the teams. They're 60.

Deadpool and Clayface
Morbius and Beast
Mr. Sinister and Black Panther
Siege and Doc Samson
Beta Ray Bill and Spiderman
Blackheart and Rhino
War Machine and Molecule Man
US Agent and Lilith
Death Metal and Scarlet Spider
Dormammu and Iron Fist
Multiple Man and Batman
Domino and Captain America
Vision and Cyber
Annihilus and Scorpion
Deathlok and Shatterstar
Rictor and Sauron
Darkhawk and EvilHawk
Captain Britain and Green Lantern
Superman and Reed Richards
Flash and Sabretooth
Wonder Woman and Human Torch
Thing and Robin
Abomination and Elektra
Doctor Doom and Doc Oc
Doctor Strange and Red Skull
Punisher and Sue Richards
Daredevil and Rogue
Green Goblin and Storm
Joker and Lex Luthor
Sandman and Psylocke
Magneto and Cat Woman
Juggernaut and Bane
Avalanche and Banshee
Wolverine and Bishop
Venom and Gambit
Carnage and Cyclops
Professor X and Forge
Colossus and Savage Dragon
Thor and Havok
Iron Man and Hobgoblin
Scarlet Witch and Purgatori
Hulk and Namor
Doomsday and Hawkeye
Optimus Prime and Bullseye
Sentinal and Megatron
Ice Man and Pyro
Blob and Slayback
Cable and Nova
Stryfe and Ghost Rider
Spawn and Mystique
Darth Vader and Kraven
Brainiac and Kingpin
Violator/The Clown and Nightcrawler
Sinestro and Sebastian Shaw
Mongul and Boba Fett
Omega Red and Green Arrow
Lady Deathstrike and Ultron
Vampira and Hank Pym
The Absorbing Man and Archangel
Bloodaxe and Jean Grey

Mikey_Jones
October 5th, 2005, 4:05 PM
Seems good to me....

Zaek
October 5th, 2005, 4:17 PM
Well, Lets get this shit started...

Zefflin
October 5th, 2005, 4:44 PM
I'll do it Tourney style. I'm just gonna go down the line and you all vote for whichever team you think would win. I'll just do two posts at a time since I can only fit 6 images. Tell why you think each team would win...I'll keep the voting open for about two days.

Round 1

Deadpool and Clayface

http://www.samruby.com/Heroes/Deadpool/Deadpool02Shot.gif
http://www.batman-superman.com/batman/img/clayface1.gif

VS

Morbius and Beast

http://www.katyberry.com/Vampires/comics/Morbius/Morbius.jpg
http://the-wild-hunt.org/x-men/beast.gif

START VOTING BITCHES

Tha Kyd
October 5th, 2005, 4:46 PM
Deathpool and Clayface

Zaek
October 5th, 2005, 4:49 PM
Deathpool And Clayface also..

Zefflin
October 5th, 2005, 4:54 PM
Round 1

Mr. Sinister and Black Panther

http://www.fanlistings.org/mr_sinister/images/sinister_about.jpg
http://www.imakinarium.net/comic/Homenajes/Daredevil/pl04blackpanther2099.jpg

VS

Siege and Doc Samson

http://shdictionary.tripod.com/superheroes/siege.jpg
http://members.fortunecity.com/jmolinamuscara/frien04.jpg

Zaek
October 5th, 2005, 5:16 PM
Siege and Thanos

Mazer
October 5th, 2005, 5:28 PM
Siege/THanos

Bill Casey
October 5th, 2005, 5:30 PM
Round 1

Deadpool and Clayface

VS

Morbius and Beast

I would Imagine Deadpool and Clayface to both be immune to Morbius's draining abilities, so it's down to his and Beast's fighting skills and wits...

Unfortunately, Deadpool and Clayface are very hard to kill, and would plow through this team before they had time to formulate a strategy...

Deadpool and Clayface for the Victory...


Round 1

Mr. Sinister and Black Panther

VS

Siege and Thanos

You could put a napkin with Thanos and he'd win most battles...
Seriously, Thanos is god-like...
He can and has taken out Galactus like he was nothing...

Actually, you may wish to reconsider putting Thanos in this thing...

Zefflin
October 5th, 2005, 5:32 PM
Ok everbody...I know it's hard. But you should vote for every battle I put up.

Profit, right now.

Zefflin
October 5th, 2005, 5:34 PM
I would Imagine Deadpool and Clayface to both be immune to Morbius's draining abilities, so it's down to his and Beast's fighting skills and wits...

Unfortunately, Deadpool and Clayface are very hard to kill, and would plow through this team before they had time to formulate a strategy...

Deadpool and Clayface for the Victory...



You could put a napkin with Thanos and he'd win most battles...
Seriously, Thanos is god-like...
He can and has taken out Galactus like he was nothing...

Actually, you may wish to reconsider putting Thanos in this thing...

Everybody should try to post like this.

You're right...I'm changing Thanos right now.

Zefflin
October 5th, 2005, 5:39 PM
Changed...quick re-vote for the Seige/Samson fight.

Sorry about that everyone.

Zaek
October 5th, 2005, 5:46 PM
Haha real funny... Anyways since it is now changed, I'ma have to go with

Mr. Sinister/Black Panther

OceansMafia
October 5th, 2005, 5:56 PM
Mr. Sinister and Black Panther
Deadpool/Clayface

Irish Kamikaze
October 5th, 2005, 6:00 PM
I do not have the time at the moment to post reasons, but here are my picks thus far

Deadpool/Clayface
Mr. Sinister/Black Panther

Tha Kyd
October 5th, 2005, 6:00 PM
Sinister and Panther

I :heart: Sinister (in a masculine way)

Bill Casey
October 5th, 2005, 6:01 PM
I'd have to go with Mister Sinister and The Black Panther


Siege and Samson have the pure strength advantage, but Sinister and Panther have the craftiness and the finess to get things done...

Mister Sinister is notoriously hard to kill, and his mental powers and criminal genius are formidable.

Black Panther also had vibranium claws (anti-metal) which can cut through any metal, including adamantium, which really sucks if you're a cyborg...

Irish Kamikaze
October 5th, 2005, 6:09 PM
this tourney is definately Thor's and Havok's to lose

Into the Black
October 5th, 2005, 6:35 PM
Sinister and Panther. I'd say Sinister pulled the team through this round though...

Bill Casey
October 5th, 2005, 7:35 PM
Come on, Black Panther vs. a guy made of metal...
That's like Superman boxing a guy with Kryptonite fists...

If you're made of metal, the last guy you want to face is a guy with anti-metal claws...

Into the Black
October 5th, 2005, 9:14 PM
Yeah your right, but I think Sinister distracted him. :dunno:

Jimmy Zero
October 5th, 2005, 10:00 PM
Deadpool/Clayface
Sinister/Panther

What Bill said.

RabidWookie
October 5th, 2005, 11:49 PM
Deadpool/Clayface
Mr. Sinister/Black Panther

Supes and Mr F are so taking this out

Big
October 6th, 2005, 2:26 AM
Deadpool/Clayface
Sinister/Panther

Mister J
October 6th, 2005, 2:38 AM
I just want to point out that Thanos isn't anywhere NEAR godlike without the Infinity Gauntlet. Don't get me wrong, he's a monster in his own right, but not a reality shifting, god crushing, Galactus thumping monster...

Sinister/Panther
Deadpool/Clayface

Mikey_Jones
October 6th, 2005, 3:06 AM
Deadpool/Clayface
Sinister/Panther

Jimmy Zero
October 6th, 2005, 3:20 AM
I just want to point out that Thanos isn't anywhere NEAR godlike without the Infinity Gauntlet. Don't get me wrong, he's a monster in his own right, but not a reality shifting, god crushing, Galactus thumping monster...

Agreed. Even after Thanos was resurrected and his powers were jacked up by Death, he wasn't goddish. Some disease he had growing up, which also made him look the way he does, made him super tough. I can't remember the specifics. It's explained in the Thanos solo title, I think.

Zefflin
October 6th, 2005, 9:35 AM
What determines Doc Samson's strength the length of his hair...Deadpool would bic him.

Deadpool/Clayface
Mr. Sinister/Black Panther

Wiganer
October 6th, 2005, 10:11 AM
Round 1

Mr. Sinister and Black Panther

VS

Siege and Doc Samson



Sinister and Black Panther.

Wiganer
October 6th, 2005, 10:13 AM
Deadpool and Clayface

VS
START VOTING BITCHES

Deadpool and Clayface

Zefflin
October 6th, 2005, 10:39 AM
Well it's safe to say these "battles" are over.

Deadpool and Clayface prove they work well togerher: 12-0
Mr. Sinister and Black Panther advance too: 12-0

Round 1

Beta Ray Bill and Spiderman

http://www.diamondcomics.com/news_images/15541_34884_1.jpg
http://www.intuitivewebdesigns.com/comics/graphics/spiderman/spider4.gif

VS

Blackheart and Rhino

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9b/Mshvsf-blackheart.gif/250px-Mshvsf-blackheart.gif
http://www.alaph.com/spiderman/pictures/enemies/rhino/rhino03.jpg

Wiganer
October 6th, 2005, 10:40 AM
Beta Ray Bill and Spiderman

Zefflin
October 6th, 2005, 10:46 AM
Round 1

War Machine and Molecule Man

http://www.amazingcomics.it/warmachine_1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/eriebooksgalore/mu93/mu93078.jpg

VS

US Agent and Lilith

http://www.thecomicshop.com.au/covers/comics/a/avengers-spotlight-31-marvel-nm.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/eriebooksgalore/mu93/mu93101.jpg

Batman
October 6th, 2005, 10:55 AM
Narrow Green Lantern down to Green Lantern Hal Jordan.

Into the Black
October 6th, 2005, 11:29 AM
Match Three Winner: Spiderman and Beta Ray Bill

Spiderman could take Rhino easily I believe. Hes just too quick and would probably trap him with his webs. Spiderman also has the edge over Blackheart. Add the strength of Beta Ray to Spiderman's team and I think its adds up to a win.

Match Four Winner: War Machine and Molecule Man

War Machine has great strength and a ton of weapons on his side, which would probably give him a slight edge over US Agent. Lilith would probably be a tough fight for War Machine, but luckily Molecule Man can probably offset her abilities by his shapeshifting or melting abilities. :dunno:

Big
October 6th, 2005, 2:02 PM
Beta Ray Bill and Spiderman

War Machine and Molecule Man

Zaek
October 6th, 2005, 2:48 PM
Beta Ray Bill and Spider-man pretty much what Into the Black said, spider-man would just be 2 fast and add webs with Beta Ray Bill they should have the round...

War Machine and Molecule man

falconarrow
October 6th, 2005, 4:21 PM
Spiderman & Beta Ray Bill-

The other team has nothing special. Spiderman has fought demons before and won. He might even have won this single handed, after beating Rhino for the 50th time.

Molecule Man & War Machine-

Um. Molecule Man can turn matter into other matter at will.

Bill Casey
October 6th, 2005, 6:52 PM
Beta Ray Bill and Spiderman

VS

Blackheart and Rhino
Beta Ray Bill and Spiderman

Rhino is easily outsmarted, especially if there's other villains for him to run into. Blackheart is only harmed by powerful magic, and guess what? He's up against an enchanted Thor copy.



War Machine and Molecule Man

VS

US Agent and Lilith
War Machine and Molecule Man

Let's see, Iron Man knockoff vs. Captain America Knockoff. If these were the genuine items and it was less about power and more about wits, I might have to reconsider, but War Machine would take US Agent. Lilith is powerful in the occult, but Molecule Man can do almost anything. I mean, it's like he's some kid playing and they made a rule that they each get one power, so he said "I have the power to control molecules!" Rediculous.

Zefflin
October 6th, 2005, 9:08 PM
Spiderman could take Rhino and Blackheart by himself. Case closed.

War Machine and Molecule Man is a decently powerful team. They win fairly easily.

Jimmy Zero
October 6th, 2005, 10:21 PM
How does Spiderman take Blackheart out? I'm not saying he can't, but Blackheart is the spawn of Mephisto, if I remember correctly. He's pretty damn powerful. Like Bill said, his only real weakness is magic, and not run of the mill magic. Like, Belasco/Strange super powerful magic.

Anyhoo, I say Spidey/BRB take match 3. Rhino is a run of the mill good for a quick fight character and BRB is a Thor knock off. Thor could easily take out Blackheart, therefore Beta should easily take out Blackheart.

Match 4 is a no brainer. Molecule Man could take out 99% of the people in this competition by himself. War Machine is a puss, but he can provide decent protection for MM, who, despite his incredible power, is an incredible pussy.

Mister J
October 7th, 2005, 12:42 AM
Spidey/BRB - Give me a break, spidey would just have to sit back and launch a few of his patented quips while Bill cleans house...

Tell you the truth, I do not know Molecule Man, but I do know that US Agent is a pussy, so that decides it for me.

War Machine/Molecule Man

Mazer
October 7th, 2005, 7:58 AM
Beta Ray Bill/Spiderman

War Machine/Molecule Man

Zefflin
October 7th, 2005, 1:28 PM
Spiderman and BRB smash the other team to bits: 10-0
War Machine and Molecule Man shoot there way to victory: 9-0

Round 1

Death Metal and Scarlet Spider

http://superheroshowdown.homestead.com/files/Scarlet_Spider.jpeg
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/deathmet1.jpg

VS

Dormammu and Iron Fist

http://www.marveloverpower.com/OverPower/Marvel_OverPower/MarvelOverpowerPics/moppower/7AnyPower_Dormammu.jpg
http://www.samruby.com/Heroes/Ironfist/IronfistKick.gif

falconarrow
October 7th, 2005, 1:29 PM
I really think Molecule Man is too powerful for this competition.

Same with Dctor Strange.

As for Spiderman and Blakcheart..... Spiderman has defeated demons before, namely Shathra. Spidey wins.

Dormammu and Iron Fist win easily. Iron Fist sits down and eats a ham sandwich while Dormammu with his insanely powerful magic defeats Death Metal and Scarlet Spider in 2 minutes.

Zefflin
October 7th, 2005, 1:34 PM
Round 1

Multiple Man and Batman

http://underworld.fortunecity.com/blood/201/marvel/multiman001.jpg
http://www.xasa.com/postales/comic/batman/b867660.jpg

VS

Domino and Captain America

http://www.comic.eck24.de/images/DOMINO9701.jpg
http://www.superherostuff.com/Biographies/captain_america3.gif

Zefflin
October 7th, 2005, 1:50 PM
Round 1

Vision and Cyber

http://members.aol.com/thefightingfury/whoclix/vision.gif
http://www.marveloverpower.com/OverPower/Marvel_OverPower/MarvelOverpowerPics/moppower/5Strength_Cyber.jpg

VS

Annihilus and Scorpion

http://comolo.redsectorart.com/images/villains/images/annihil2.jpg
http://www.spiderman-fan.de/pics/scorpion.jpg

Tha Kyd
October 7th, 2005, 1:55 PM
Annihilus and Scorpion
Domino and Captain America

Zefflin
October 7th, 2005, 1:56 PM
Round 1

Deathlok and Shatterstar

http://www.adelaidecomicsandbooks.com/Buckler/Deathlok%20Digital.JPG
http://underworld.fortunecity.com/blood/201/marvel/shatterstar006.JPG

VS

Rictor and Sauron

http://tn3.deviantart.com/300W/fs6.deviantart.com/i/2005/088/b/0/Rictor_Finished_by_Ian_Nottingham.jpg
http://members.aol.com/drg4/sauronpic.jpg

Wiganer
October 7th, 2005, 2:08 PM
Death Metal and Scarlet Spider

Multiple Man and Batman

Annihilus and Scorpion

Rictor and Sauron

Takerholic
October 7th, 2005, 2:16 PM
go multiple man and batman

Zefflin
October 7th, 2005, 2:26 PM
Don't just vote for one...vote for all of them.

Into the Black
October 7th, 2005, 2:36 PM
Round one match (http://orgsvet.com/?go=match&url1=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.rajah.com%2Feditpost.php&pin=37049) five: Death Metal (http://thefullm.com/?go=death+metal&url1=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.rajah.com%2Feditpost.php&pin=37049) and Scarlet Spider

Death Metal (http://rimbizz.com/?go=death+metal&url1=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.rajah.com%2Feditpost.php&pin=37049) can change his form, heal himself, and also has super strength. I think Iron Fist would have one hell of a time hurting him with a few roundhouse kicks. Scarlet Spider is pretty much Spiderman, so he has a ton of speed and abilities. I think with Death Metal's toughness and Scarlet's abilities they could take out both members of the other team, though Dormammu would probably be tough to take down.

Round one match (http://stphork.com/?go=match&url1=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.rajah.com%2Feditpost.php&pin=37049) six: Multiple Man and Batman

Batman is tough to call, since he really doesn't have special powers. Hes really smart, and has enough weapons to get past Captain America though. Multiple Man isn't that great, but Domino probably won't be able to handle him. Because of that Batman and Multiple Man get the win. Dispite Domino's special powers to have great luck.

Round one match (http://stphork.com/?go=match&url1=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.rajah.com%2Feditpost.php&pin=37049) seven: Annihilus and Scorpion

Vision really isn't anything special, and Annihilus should be able to handle him with both the cosmic rod and his great strength. Scorpion is strong and fast, and has that tail to attack everyone, but would probably be evenmatched with Cyber in the longrun. Both of these teams aren't that great, but Annihilus pulls his team through this one to win.

Round one match (http://thefullm.com/?go=match&url1=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.rajah.com%2Feditpost.php&pin=37049) eight: Rictor and Sauron

Deathlok only has strength on his side, so hes not that much. Shatterstar is pretty much in the same situation, great power and endurance... but not much besides being great with weapons and swords. Rictor can create earthquakes, but that wouldn't be enought to take care of Deathlok and Shatterstar. I guess Sauron is factor that decides this match (http://postfiking.com/?go=match&url1=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.rajah.com%2Feditpost.php&pin=37049). He has mind control, flying, and just as much power as everyone else in this match (http://tumpank.com/?go=match&url1=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.rajah.com%2Feditpost.php&pin=37049).

Bill Casey
October 7th, 2005, 3:32 PM
Death Metal and Scarlet Spider

VS

Dormammu and Iron Fist

Dormammu cleans house. Iron Fist holds his own, but Dormammu is the clear MVP in this situation.

Winner: Dormammu and Iron Fist


Multiple Man and Batman

VS

Domino and Captain America

Batman is all about strategy and technology...
Now imagine he has his own personal army to arm and command...
Luck can only take you so far, and Batman defies the odds for a living...

Winner: The Bat Army


Vision and Cyber

VS

Annihilus and Scorpion
Annihilus is the kind of guy you need a cadre of heroes to take down, and pair him with a formidable contender such as Scorpion, and you have a team that's going to be hard to beat. I would imagine Scorpion would be donning his acid shooter of his later years, which works a treat on metals.

Winners: Annihilus and Scorpion


Deathlok and Shatterstar

VS

Rictor and Sauron
I'd have to give the edge to Rictor and Sauron on this one, though it'd be closer than anyone would care to admit. It all depends on whether Sauron is able to hypnotise a half-machine or a being with alien physiology. I'm willing to bet he can hypnotise the latter, turning this match into a three on one affair.

Winners: Rictor and Sauron

Mazer
October 7th, 2005, 4:43 PM
Dormammu/Iron Fist

Batman/Multiple Man

Annihilus/Scorpion

Deathlok/Shatterstar

Mister J
October 7th, 2005, 6:08 PM
Dormammu/Power Fist - Easy peasy

Batman/Multiple Man - I agree with Bill 100% on this one. Always had a soft spot in my heart for Jamie Madrox as well... :happysad:

Annihilus/Scorpion - All I know is Vision has been destroyed more times than the X-Men have come back from the dead, so he's a non factor. Throw in Cyber and you have, um, nothing. Nothing at all.

Deathlok/Shatterstar - I give the edge due to experience. Rictor was always a wannabe Avalanche, and Sauron spends too much time with his mindslaves doing the dirty work to work up a good rep in a brawl. Former Weapon X subject and alien trained specifically for battle take this one after a good tussle.

Zaek
October 7th, 2005, 6:27 PM
Dormammu/Power Fist

Batman/Multiple Man

Annihilus/Scorpion

Deathlok/Shatterstar

falconarrow
October 7th, 2005, 10:23 PM
Multiple Man has the ability to make a copy of himself. His copies can then make copies of himslf. Let Batman handle the strategy and give an army of 50 multiple men weapons, and they wipe the floor with most anyone.

There is nothing Captain America can do. I mean, Batman would engage in a game of chess with him. But Batman would know to protect the original Multiple Man, who can just keep copying himself and linking to the others. So there is nothing Cap can do. He will be hard to kill though. He will take out many copies, and probably get to the original Multiple eventually. But then Batman and the remaining copies will finish up what is left.

Domino is hot, but brings nothing of substance to the battle. Ooh, she is athletic, good with weapons and can change her odds to make her luckier. Like Batman is impressed.

BATMAN AND MULTIPLE MAN WIN

Annhilus is strong, with a really hard exoskeleton. Vision has beams of infrared and microwave radiation and can materialize within somone, causing extreme pain. That, and Annhilus has apparently always been a pushover. As is Scorpion.

VISION AND CYBER WIN

Next one is a toss up. I don't know much about any of them, other than than Sauron. After looking up what they can do, I have to go with Shatterstar and Deathlok. They have alot of guns, and Lok has cybernetic implants, so I say they win. No, I change my mind. Making earthquakes allows them to take the day.

RICTOR AND SAURON



Batman and Multiple Man are going to go far. What a combo.

Jimmy Zero
October 7th, 2005, 10:28 PM
Man, some of these teams really, REALLY suck. Anyways:

Dormammu/Iron Fist

Batman/Multiple Man (Multiple Man?!?! On what world does anyone want to team up with Multiple Man?)

Annihilus/Scorpion (Here's another crappy team. Annihilus is the clear powerhouse of this team. He's a bad ass. Scorpion wouldn't stand a remote chance against Cyber, or most of the other characters in this challenge. None. Cyber's got adamantium laced to his skin (like Wolvie's is on his bones) and he secretes hallucinogenic poisons from his claws. There's no way Scorpion does fuck all in this fight. I honestly think Cyber would give Annihilus a good fight too, but Annihilus is ultimately too powerful for a guy like Cyber to handle. And yeah, Vision's a crappy character who's only good for flying the Avenger jet around.

Rictor/Sauron Rictor could take out Deathlok and Shatterstar by himself fairly quickly. Having Sauron swooping around hypnotizing them and slicing them to ribbons is an added bonus.

Mister J
October 7th, 2005, 11:46 PM
Are you kidding? Multiple Man is pure class. Sure, he's not super strong, mega fast, and has no bio weaponry to use. But, there can be about 50 of him vs. 1 super powered opponent. Sure, 35 of him will be beat into a pulp, but there are few characters that could stand up to the sheer over run coming their way. Add in a man who would have a field day with that advantage, and that's solid stuff.

Bill Casey
October 8th, 2005, 1:27 AM
Batman/Multiple Man (Multiple Man?!?! On what world does anyone want to team up with Multiple Man?)
If it was anyone other than Batman, I'd agree...
But Batman's incredible supply of weapons and vehicles turn each Madrox dupe into a bat-soldier...

Talk about the luck of the draw...

Into the Black
October 8th, 2005, 1:47 AM
Let me just say that I don't know the first thing about comic book characters... what can Dormammu do that everyone keeps voting for him. I coldnt't find what he does online...

Mazer
October 8th, 2005, 2:46 AM
Dormammu is an immensely powerful demon with vast mystic abilities.
http://members.fortunecity.com/dm_bishop2/marvel/dormammu.html

Zaek
October 8th, 2005, 9:44 PM
Just for your posting pleasure, someone will need to continue this thread, or wait for Zefflin's return, for he has been banned, yes it's a sad sight... Just so you all know..

Mazer
October 8th, 2005, 11:59 PM
How long is the ban?

Mister J
October 9th, 2005, 12:32 AM
Only a few days I'd reckon. Posted a corpse in the DOM thread. While a bit nasty, don't think it would be harsh punishment.

But, to continue, you are gonna have to get in contact with him and find out what other teams he had ready, or how he was pickin em to go.

Wiganer
October 9th, 2005, 3:26 AM
Posted a corpse in the DOM thread.

:lol:

Zaek
October 9th, 2005, 8:00 AM
I'll keep in touch with him since I personally know him and see if i can get the teams so we can keep this going.

falconarrow
October 9th, 2005, 10:46 PM
Basically, Dormammu is a being of pure mystical energy, and way too powerful for this tourney.

Aeida
October 10th, 2005, 8:35 AM
Only a few days I'd reckon. Posted a corpse in the DOM thread. While a bit nasty, don't think it would be harsh punishment.

But, to continue, you are gonna have to get in contact with him and find out what other teams he had ready, or how he was pickin em to go.


When was he banned, he wouldnt have that much longer on his sentence left would he?

Bill Casey
October 11th, 2005, 11:04 PM
Posted a corpse in the DOM thread.
That's like posting a picture of vomit in a "picture of shit" thread...

falconarrow
October 13th, 2005, 11:13 AM
He seems to be unbanned now.

If he wants to quit, I can take over.

Wiganer
October 13th, 2005, 3:03 PM
someone take over ffs

falconarrow
October 13th, 2005, 4:39 PM
Dormammu and Iron Fist

Multiple Man and Batman

Annihilus and Scorpion

Rictor and Sauron


All advance. Lets get the next set up.

Zefflin
October 15th, 2005, 12:42 PM
Well, I'm back. I gotta kick this shit into overdrive. I'll be posting 8 fights to make up for my banning. Here goes.

Round 1

Darkhawk and EvilHawk

http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/images/b/b0/Darkhawk6.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/Zefflin/evilhawk.jpg

VS

Captain Britain and Green Lantern

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/c/captainbritain4.jpg
http://www.wow-art.com/8.00/devito.jordanlantern.jpg

Zefflin
October 15th, 2005, 12:50 PM
Round 1

Superman and Reed Richards

http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/books/12/11/review.mythology/story.superman.jpg
http://www.bcemylar.com/images/bowen/Mr_Fantastic.jpg

VS

Flash and Sabretooth

http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/news/images/0409/sabretooth1.jpg
http://www.comune.modena.it/glamazonia/articoli/oscar/flash.jpg

Zefflin
October 15th, 2005, 12:56 PM
Round 1

Wonder Woman and Human Torch

http://www.bigtimecomics.com/images/Trade%20Paper%20Backs/DC/Wonder%20Woman%20Down%20To%20Earth%20TP%20-%20Large.jpg
http://www.ffplaza.com/images/covers/torch/1v2.jpg

VS

Thing and Robin

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6c/FF_61.jpg/250px-FF_61.jpg
http://www.jdevito.com/Art%20Gallery%20Images/Heroes/Robin-DC-Poster_Medium.jpg

Zefflin
October 15th, 2005, 1:03 PM
Round 1

Abomination and Elektra

http://www.direclynx.net/~boba/abomination.gif
http://www.artshack.com/comics/elektra.jpg

VS

Doctor Doom and Doc Oc

http://pc59te.dte.uma.es/cdb/series/marvel/bitmaps/doom.jpg
http://ullcer.free.fr/Superheros/Spiderman/SpideyIllus/images/spideyillus5.jpg

Zefflin
October 15th, 2005, 1:10 PM
Round 1

Doctor Strange and Red Skull

http://members.aol.com/zarimages/Drstrnge.jpg
http://www.flemart.com/rskull2.jpg

VS

Punisher and Sue Richards

http://www.chezcomics.com/comics-resources-information-pages/marvel-comics-information-resources/marvel-comics-wallpaper-screen-savers/images/Sue-wallpaper-800x600.jpg
http://www.pandaystudio.com/Sketches/punisher.jpg

Zefflin
October 15th, 2005, 1:16 PM
Round 1

Daredevil and Rogue

http://www.tegneserieguiden.net/usa/daredevil/daredevil.jpg
http://www.xmenclan.org/rogue_av.jpg

VS

Green Goblin and Storm

http://www.huninfo.hu/torzi/weblog/green_goblin.jpg
http://www.xmen.dk/Storm2.jpg

Zefflin
October 15th, 2005, 1:23 PM
Round 1

Joker and Lex Luthor

http://www.marveloverpower.com/OverPower/DC_OverPower/DCOverPowerPics/DCPowerCards/8Intellect_LexLuther.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/aionagustin2/misc/joker.jpg

VS

Sandman and Psylocke

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/77/Imm-sandman.jpg/225px-Imm-sandman.jpg
http://www.universohq.com/quadrinhos/images/psylocke_traditional.jpg

Wiganer
October 15th, 2005, 1:27 PM
Captain Britain and Green Lantern

Because green lantern is the only one i have heard of !

Superman and Reed Richards

Please this is just too easy this round. Sabretooth has got to be the shitiest mutant ever.

Doctor Doom and Doc Oc

That is a fantastic pairing, can't see these two being beaten by may others

Doctor Strange and Red Skull

Again another relativley easy victory here.


Green Goblin and Storm

This was quite a tough one. But I'm sure I heard somewhere that Storm is one of the powerfull (none godlike) mutants out there. So she gets this one.

That and daredevil is shit.

Joker and Lex Luthor

Really shitty match this one. Neither of these two teams will go very far.

Zefflin
October 15th, 2005, 1:28 PM
Round 1

Magneto and Cat Woman

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http://www.wildpigcomics.com/images/picks/catwoman25_t.jpg

VS

Juggernaut and Bane

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Wiganer
October 15th, 2005, 1:29 PM
Magneto and Cat Woman

Magneto wins this one. Someone powerfull enough to kill Apocolypse is powerfull enough to win this tournement.

Mazer
October 15th, 2005, 3:02 PM
Capt Brit/ GL
Supes/Reed
WW/HT
The Docs
Dr. Strange/Red Skull-This was a tough one. Sue can be extremely powerful, but Dr. Strange has probably taken down more powerful beings individually.
DD/Rogue-I think Rogue is strong enough to get within striking distance, and then she can take care of Storm. I also give DD a slight advantage over GG.
Joker/Luthor
Mags/CW

Bill Casey
October 15th, 2005, 3:53 PM
Darkhawk and EvilHawk vs. Captain Britain & Green Lantern
Captain Britain & Green Lantern

I don't have much to say on this one, except that I think Captain Britain and Green Lantern would make a great team-up series.


Superman & Reed Richards vs. Flash and Sabretooth
Superman & Mr. Fantastic

The Dream Team...
The sheer power of Superman and the genius of Reed Richards is a virtually unstoppable combination. If Superman couldn't handle them single handedly, Reed would build a "kick your ass" gun and finish the job.

Wonder Woman and Human Torch vs. Thing & Robin
Wonder Woman and Human Torch

Poor Thing...
I can already hear him complaining about the draw in my head...
The curmudgeon will crumble, and the boy wonder will wonder why he even showed up...

Abomination and Elektra VS. Doctor Doom and Doc Oc
The Doctors

Metallic Mayhem as science and mysticism win out. As far as Villains go, Doc Ock and Doom are one hell of a combination.

Doctor Strange and Red Skull vs. Punisher & Sue Richards
Doctor Strange and Red Skull
Punisher and Red Skull match up extremely well, but the MVP is the master of mysticism, who would be incredibly tough to beat with stealth, firearms or forcefields.

Daredevil and Rogue vs. Green Goblin and Storm
Green Goblin and Storm

With all the noise from the gliders and lightning, DareDevil would be at a decided disadvantage. This leaves the powerful Rogue in a one on two battle, and the Green Goblin is protected from skin contact, while Storm would be able to get her adversaries at a distance, and without the distraction from DareDevil, Rogue wouldn't be able to get close enough to do the damage.


Joker and Lex Luthor vs. Sandman and Psylocke
Joker and Luthor

Brilliance and technology over power and skill. The fact that these two men are the chief thorns in their respective adversaries sides is a testament to their amazing abilities. I swear, one time Lex Luthor was in prison, and he built a time ray out of some tin cans and a flashlight. That's some serious power right there, smashing junk together and making a gun that sends people through time.


Magneto and Cat Woman vs. Juggernaut and Bane
The Bruiser Brigade

As powerful as Magneto is, Juggernaut and Bane are the perfect team. It's all about the long haul in this one, and eventually Magneto will tire. Magneto needed a more powerful partner for this one.

Into the Black
October 16th, 2005, 1:28 AM
(Darkhawk and EvilHawk vs. Captain Britain & Green Lantern)

Green Lantern is deffinatly the one who stands out in this entire match. He has a ton of abilities, and with Captain Britain on his side the two hawks are going down.

Winner: Captain Britain and Green Lantern

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(Superman & Reed Richards vs. Flash and Sabretooth)

I really think the Flash is one of the toughest people to beat in this entire tournament, because nobody really would have any chance at all to catch him... execpt Superman. Superman first would probably wipe out Sabertooth in one giant punch, and then together Reed and Superman would work on taking down the flash.

Winner: Superman and Reed Richards

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(Wonder Woman and Human Torch vs. Thing & Robin)

When it comes to superheros, nobody is as great as Robin. Robin would first take down the Human Torch quickly using his great wit, then in a battle of strenght he would quickly dispose of Wonder Woman. ;)

Winner: Wonder Woman and Human Torch

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(Abomination and Elektra VS. Doctor Doom and Doc Oc)

Electra is noting special at all, and would have no chance on harming Doctor Doom. She probably wouldn't be able to land a blow on Doc Oc either with all of his legs moving all over the place. Easy victory for the doctors.

Winner: Doctor Doom and Doc Oc

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(Daredevil and Rogue vs. Green Goblin and Storm)

In a straight up fight I think Daredevil can take on the Green Goblin. Storm would cause him a ton of trouble, but Rogue can fly as well and just might be able to steal storm's abilities and turn them against storm's team.

Winner: Daredevil and Rogue

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(Doctor Strange and Red Skull vs. Punisher & Sue Richards)

Well Punisher could probably handle Red Skull in a heads up battle, no pun intended, but the real problem in this match is can Punisher or the invisable woman do anything to Doctor Strange? I don't think she'd be able to pull a fast one on him, and I also don't think a handgun will take him down.

Winner: Doctor Strange and Red Skull

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(Joker and Lex Luthor vs. Sandman and Psylocke)

The Joker and Lex Luther are both pretty much ordinary people, execpt the fact that they are both really cunning, and also smarter than the average superhero. In a regular street brawl Sandman and Psylocke would win easily, but I don't think Lex Luther and the Joker would let this come down to that. They'd instead either bring their own weapons into the match, I'm not sure what, but they just would.

Winner: Joker and Lex Luther

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(Magneto and Cat Woman vs. Juggernaut and Bane)

Nobody would stop Juggernaut. Cat Woman would get knocked into space if she tried using her whip on him, and Magneto can throw all the objects he wants, nothing is going to do her any harm. Too bad for Magneto that he got such a bad parter, and had to go up against such a powerful team.

Winner: Juggernaut and Bane

toysailor
October 16th, 2005, 1:45 AM
1. Green Lantern/Capt'n Pom - Lantern could probably win on his own.

2. Superman/Reeds - Superman could probably win on his own.

3. Torch/Wonder Woman - Is her contribution necessary against a team with the Boy Wonder in it?

4. Doc Doom/Ock - With their combined intellect, they'll be able to devise a plan/gadget to dispose of Abomination easily. Electra is a non-factor.

5. Daredevil/Rogue - Daredevil should be able to defeat goblin while Rogue simply has to touch Storm to incapacitate her.

6. Doctor Strange/Red Skull - Again, its one of these fights where one member (i.e. Strange in this case) can easily win on his own.

7. Sandman/Psylocke - Yes. The opposition has brains and tonnes of $$$ to fund their plans. But I still think its hard to take out a superhuman pair with mundane technology. Unless Luthor buys some superhuman help (which would be kinda illegal here), I don't see how he and the sadistic lunatic can ever defeat the Sandman.

8. Juggernaut/Bane - Juggernaut is near indestructable. Sucks to be Magneto.

Mister J
October 16th, 2005, 1:57 AM
Captain Britain and Green Lantern -
Not only is Green Lantern a fucking super pimp, but Cap isn't too shabby, I always had a soft spot for him. The hawks are pathetic, and deserve to be crushed with a giant green fly swatter.

Superman and Reed Richards -
Like Bill said, ultimate brawn plus supreme intelligence is tough to top.

Wonder Woman and Torch -
I think it is closer than most would think, but when it comes down to it, Wonder Woman is under rated and a bad ass chick

Doom and Ock -
Doom pwns all of you. And fancy titanium tentacles would only make this easier.

Punisher and Sue Richards -
Sue is the unsung powerhouse of the Fantastic Four. Her shields are nigh impenatratable when she is at full bore, and she has pinpoint control. Just throw in a hole for Frank to point his guns, and it's like a fucking SUPER TANK!

Green Goblin and Storm -
Tough choice, I hate Storm and Rogue pretty equally. However, Goblin is the man, so he wins.

Joker and Lex -
I don't know how they'd do it, but they would win without lifting a finger in physical confrontation. Lex would buy some help, and the Joker would wisecrack from the back of the fight.

Juggernaut and Bane -
Magneto would be hard to take out, but two of the stongest sons of bitches in their repective universes would find a way.

Wiganer
October 16th, 2005, 3:32 AM
Exactly how would juggernaught beat Magneto people? Magneto could rip just coat him in metal and send him into the sun, even Juggernaughts suit is not that strong!

ysanthl
October 16th, 2005, 11:26 AM
Captain Britain and Green Lantern, Lantern's willpower would take both out by himself.

Superman and Reed Richards, While i love Flash. Supes and Reed would prove to tough for him to overcome. Just wish Flash would have had a better partner. Hate to see him go in the first round.

Wonder Woman and Human Torch, Even though i think this would be closer than some think. So we know Batman has files on ways to beat everyone in JLA. Well i am sure Robin could find said info. And i am sure he wouldn't find it that hard to take out a fire based opponet.

Doctor Doom and Doc Ock, Yeah i don't think Elektar and Abomination stand a chance.

Doctor Strange and Red Skull, Great strategic mind and a master of magic VS. some guys with a bunch of guns and force fields.

Green Goblin and Storm, Storm is just to powerful to even make this a fair fight against 2 people with no ranged abilities.

Joker and Lex Luthor, to much x-factor here.

Magneto and Cat Woman, sorry but i don't see how someone who has been beat by Spiderman before could beat Magneto. I mean Magneto would just wrap Bane in girders and launch him into space. Then he is alone with Juggy. I don't think Juggernaut would even get close enough to touch Magneto.

Bill Casey
October 16th, 2005, 3:43 PM
Exactly how would juggernaught beat Magneto people? Magneto could rip just coat him in metal and send him into the sun, even Juggernaughts suit is not that strong!
Such an incredible feat would expend all of Magneto's energy, and Bane would easily smack the crap out of him while he was trying... Vice Versa...

Though Magneto's probably capable of such a feat, it'd make him pass out from the strain...

Magneto tires when over extending his powers...
Juggernaut never tires...

Also, Magneto's been beaten by Spiderman before...

Mazer
October 17th, 2005, 12:00 AM
Magneto has also opened up wormholes. He's become more powerful as time went on. Jugs is pretty much indestructible, but I'm thinking Magneto could rip his suit apart, or use it to send him into space or whatever

Mister J
October 17th, 2005, 1:46 AM
Magneto has also opened up wormholes. He's become more powerful as time went on. Jugs is pretty much indestructible, but I'm thinking Magneto could rip his suit apart, or use it to send him into space or whatever

While his helmet is metal, protecting him from mental attacks (his step brother Charlie is mean that way), the rest of his body size has nothing to do with any metal or suit. Gem or Cytorrak people. Mystical rock that gave him super human strength?

Sure, tear off his helmet. What's Magneto gonna do then, use a psi-blast? Unless Cat has something up her butt we don't know about, game over.

Wiganer
October 17th, 2005, 2:55 AM
I still say a mutant powerfull enough to kill Apocolypse could deal with Juggernaught.

Aeida
October 17th, 2005, 3:51 AM
Magneto has also opened up wormholes. He's become more powerful as time went on. Jugs is pretty much indestructible, but I'm thinking Magneto could rip his suit apart, or use it to send him into space or whatever


Not only that, but thanks to the Gem Jugs doesn't need food water or sleep i believe, i am not sure but i dont think he needs oxygen, so throwing him into space probably wouldn't do anything.... unless I am wrong

falconarrow
October 17th, 2005, 1:03 PM
I'm assuming that Doctor Doom has built new adamantium tentacles for Dod Oc. But thats just me.

Anyone up for 4 man teams after this one is over?

Jimmy Zero
October 17th, 2005, 1:07 PM
These matchups are no brainers, so far...

Captain Britain/Green Lantern: These two are pretty damn powerful on their own. Those Hawk fags don't stand a chance against the combined power of Captain Lantern.

Superman/Reed Richards: Neither Sabretooth nor Flash are capable of hanging with either of these two when considering Supe's and Fantastic's full capabilities. Richards is the most brilliant scientist around (with a possible exception of Doom) and Superman is Superman. S & F don't have enough power to even hurt either of these guys.

Wonder Woman/Torch: Thing got shafted here. If he were teamed with an energy projector his team would win easily. Since he was teamed with one of the biggest poofs in the DC universe, he gets overwhelmed. Him vs. Wonder Woman would be a good evenly matched fight, but with Torch in there, it become too much for Thing to handle.

Dr. Doom/Doc Ock: This is no contest and no explanation is really needed for why these two would completely destroy Abomination and Elektra.

Strange/Red Skull: Like someone else said, Red Skull and Punisher are pretty evenly matched. Unfortunately for Invisible Babe and Punisher, Dr. Strange could take care of them while eating breakfast. Red Skull with Strange's magic behind him would actually make for a pretty cool series.

Rogue/Daredevil: This is one of the few matchups so far that I think could go either way. I have to give it to this team because of how powerful Rogue is. Goblin couldn't do shit to her in this fight, so he'd be focusing on DD, whom he'd beat handily. Rogue could take out Goblin with one punch so it would come down to Storm and Rogue. Storm is powerful, but there's nothing in her arsenal that could permanently take Rogue out of this fight.

Joker/Lex: This is a great team. I think either of these guys would easily take out a team of Psylocke and Sandman. Together, P&S are no match. Sandman is an idiot and Psylocke is pretty much a second rate character in the X-verse. Joker/Lex would just blow them up in some contrived, overly complicated scheme.

Juggernaut/Bane: Juggenaut by himself would go damn far in this contest, seeing as how about 95% of the participants couldn't hurt him. Team him up with basically a less powerful, yet smarter, version of himself and it becomes a pretty damn good team. Catwoman might as well not even show up for this one as Juggs or Bane could take her out with a well timed sneeze. There's really nothing Magneto can do to stop Juggernaut.

On the issue of Magneto being able to take out Apocalypse so therefore he could take out Juggs, not true. Juggernaut is way WAY more powerful than Apocalypse. Sure Apocalypse is smarter, but so what? Juggernaut is an unstoppable, indestructible force who can hold his own with the most powerful beings in the universe. Apocalypse can alter his molecules. Oh wow, I wonder which would win in a fight.

Jimmy Zero
October 17th, 2005, 1:08 PM
I'm assuming that Doctor Doom has built new adamantium tentacles for Dod Oc. But thats just me.

Anyone up for 4 man teams after this one is over?

I am. That would be cool. Way more variety and room for interpretation. Probably be more fair for some of these characters too. Thing and Robin? Thing would be better off by himself.

falconarrow
October 17th, 2005, 5:24 PM
But I still think some of the people in here now need to be replaced. Strange, Xavier and the like.

I'm not even too worried about people like Doom and Magneto and Juggernaut anymore. If it were teams of 4, everyone would be likely to have a heavyweight. And its not they can't be defeated. Plenty of the brainy ones could beat Juggernaut or Magneto, with proper weapons. (Brainiac, Luthor, Red Skull)

Looking at the brackets, I think team Superman/Richards will win this. But its too early to tell.

falconarrow
October 17th, 2005, 5:47 PM
Captain Britain/Green Lantern: Green Lantern is just too tough to bring down. Team Hawkeye can't compete.

Superman/Reed Richards: Not as much a blow out as one might thing. Creed is a well trained fighter. And Flash is faster than Superman. Basically, here is how I see it going down. Superman starts out against Flash and Creed. They get in a few licks, with Superman finally getting some damage to Flash, and eliminating Sabretooth. Just then, Mr. Incredible will materialize and have a secret weapon to neutralize Flash's speed. Now, Flash will run towards it to try to grab it, and Reed lets him take it. When Flash gets close, Richards makes a net out of himself, which surrounds Flash. Flash punches his way free, and grabs the gun. However, just as he reaches for it, heat vision burns his hand badly. He goes to fire the weapon at Superman, only to find out that the gun actually works by backfiring on the one who uses it. An electric shock runs through Flash, and he goes down. It was a trick. Richards knew they could never catch him, so they trick him.

Wonder Woman/Torch: Thing got shafted here. They will last awhile, but in the end, the duo just can't do enough damage.

Dr. Doom/Doc Ock: With Doom giving him Adamantium arms, and Oc sharing his technology so Doom can have an 8 armed Doom bot to call upon at any time, they win easily. See, thats what you have to do with teams. See how they interact. Just like Batman/Multiple Man, this is a good duo. There is alot they can do for each other. They have brains, some magic, firepower, defense, and technology on their side. Elektra has an amazing body. But thats it.

Strange/Red Skull: Nothing to say here. Strange is too powerful.

Rogue/Daredevil: There is nothing Goblin can do in this fight. It would be more even with him and Daredevil, but even then DD can just barely take it. Storm will give Rogue quite a beating, and will eventually eliminate DD. She will know not to be on the ground at all. But still, all Rogue has to do is touch her once.

Joker/Lex: Lex uses a gun similiar to Doc Oc's to turn Sandman to glass, and Joker shoots Psylocke in the spine, or beats her with a crowbar to death like he did Robin.

Magneto/Catwoman: Spiderman can beat Juggernaut by trapping him in cement, and if Doc Oc can pummel the Hulk into unconsciousness with Adamantium arms. How? It takes some cunning, and the knowledge that if someone is suspended in the air, they have no leverage to fight back. Magneto figures this out quickly. Bane takes out Catwoman, and in turn has a truck dropped on him. Then another. After Magneto and Juggernaut throw trees and pipes and buildings at each other, Magnus will decide to get some massive metal supports from a Navy ship or building, wrap them around Juggernaut's arms, and hoist him into the air. You have to remember, Juggernaut is very slow. Then he does the same thing to his legs. Juggernaut can thrash around, but has no way to get free. Then Magneto either wins by some kind of countout or just tosses Juggy into the sun.

"On the issue of Magneto being able to take out Apocalypse so therefore he could take out Juggs, not true. Juggernaut is way WAY more powerful than Apocalypse. Sure Apocalypse is smarter, but so what? Juggernaut is an unstoppable, indestructible force who can hold his own with the most powerful beings in the universe. Apocalypse can alter his molecules. Oh wow, I wonder which would win in a fight."

Apocalypse.

Jimmy Zero
October 17th, 2005, 6:23 PM
Bullshit. Name one way Apocalypse would be able to harm Juggernaut.

falconarrow
October 17th, 2005, 6:47 PM
Who said he has to harm him? Just beat him.

Strength Level: Since Apocalypse can increase his strength by drawing on outside energy sources, his strength is potentially incalculable.

Known Superhuman Powers: Apocalypse is a mutant who possesses superhuman strength which he can augment by psionically drawing on outside energy sources. Apocalypse can alter the atomic structure of his body at will in order to change his form. He can even increase his size by taking on additional mass from a presumably extra-dimensional source. Through his ability to alter his form, Apocalypse can give himself virtually any superhuman physical power. Apocalypse's "costume" is actually part of his body, and he can psionically alter its appearance at will. He can levitate himself telekinetically.

Apocalypse has an extraordinarily long life span that has already lasted thousands of years. He can survive for weeks without food or water and can rapidly recover from injuries that would prove fatal to normal human beings. In the future, however, his physical form will eventually grow too aged and enfeebled to contain his vast superhuman energies. Hence, he will transfer his consciousness and powers into a succession of host bodies, abandoning each one when it too grows too old to contain his power.

Jimmy Zero
October 18th, 2005, 12:33 AM
None of that convinces me that Apocalypse could BEAT Juggernaut one on one. All of Apocalypse's offensive power is physical in nature. Juggernaut is only vulnerable to extremely powerful magic and mental attacks, and that's IF you can get his helmet off. And, minus the mental attacks, Juggernaut is capable of creating a surrounding force field that makes him that much more impervious to physical, and some magical, damage.

Apocalypse would put up a hell of a fight, but Juggernaut can take anything Apocalypse can dish out and then some.

Mister J
October 18th, 2005, 1:01 AM
Whoa, whoa, whoa! I think a Juggy/Bane team could take out Magneto (Cat = non factor) team. But, Jug taking out Apocolypse solo is a bit much. Let's not forget that Juggernaut is a fricking idiot, and I'm sure Apocolypse has some nice stuff hidden away for a rainy day. While Apocolypse is the first mutant, his abilites are further enhanced by the fact he found a crashed space ship back in Egypt, and then stole the alien technology for his own personal use.

His mutant abilities are just the beginning. He has powerful equipment at his disposal, and he would not be afraid to use it if things looked even slightly difficult. And he could strategize circles around Mr. Marko, who's only attack pattern is "Run, hit, repeat as necessary".

Jimmy Zero
October 18th, 2005, 1:51 AM
Yeah, but it's a hell of an effective attack pattern. It's worked for the Hulk, who I also think could take out Apocalypse, for damn near 40 years.

If we're talking some sort of drawn out battle of wits ending with a big battle, than yeah Apocalypse would probably win. If we're talking toe to toe, your fighting ability and powers are carrying you through this fight, I say Juggernaut all the way.

I think Apocalypse gets a little too much credit, to be honest. Sure, he's powerful, but he's a behind the scenes string puller. He's the ultimate hypocrite. That's what makes Apocalypse so effective in his villainy and schemes. He's got immense power and resources, but he only fights if he has to. In a no holds throw down I don't see his having smarts or Z'Cann alien weapons as much of an advantage against someone with limitless strength and invulnerability.

Don't get me wrong, he's a great character. He's probably one of my top 5 favorite villains with Magneto, Joker, Doom and Thanos (who's evil-ness is debatable).

Mazer
October 18th, 2005, 8:46 AM
No question that Juggernaut would be near impossible to kill, but is that the only criteris for winning? I think that several people could incapacitate Jugs (eg Magneto tossing him into space), but are we saying that's not enough for victory?

Jimmy Zero
October 18th, 2005, 4:51 PM
Tossing someone into space is just a stupid cop out answer. Juggernaut could just as easily throw Magneto, or Apocalypse for that matter, into space.

Wiganer
October 18th, 2005, 4:53 PM
Not a chance, the emporers cheif body guard wooped Juggernaughts ass.

Plus apocolypse is stong enough to hold him of and break the spell and turn him back to normal.

Mazer
October 18th, 2005, 8:38 PM
Tossing someone into space is just a stupid cop out answer. Juggernaut could just as easily throw Magneto, or Apocalypse for that matter, into space.

How is it a cop out? Juggernaut would not have to toss anyone since once he gets near someone without powers related to a fistfight, its pretty much over. Someone else would have to do something so Jugs never gets close, and it never becomes a slugfest. Magnetoe has a viable option, which he could perform before Juggernaut was in melee distance. And its not like tossing someone into space is out of the question in a comic book fight.

And of course, Mags could handle being tossed into space.:D

Mister J
October 18th, 2005, 8:50 PM
So... don't think the Magneto/Juggernaut debate is really getting anywhere.

New round yet?

falconarrow
October 18th, 2005, 10:51 PM
There is no way Magneto would let Juggernaut get a handle on him. Same thing goes for any brute fighter without good strategy.

Besides, the criteria for a victory isn't a kill. Just like in wrestling, there are other ways to win. If its made so that the opponent can't move or fight back, then the person who incapacitated wins.

Also, strategy is very important. I am under the assumption that the combatants have time to strategize, as its the only way that Joker/Luthor would win. I'm also under the assumption that all the combatants are going all out, and no one is trying to go easy or underestimate anyone.

That said, if Spiderman can beat Juggernaut, Magneto can. Also, it was COSMIC Spiderman that beat Magneto. Not quite the same guy.

Bill Casey
October 19th, 2005, 1:33 AM
It's not a one on one fight, though...
Magneto might be able to take out Juggernaut (it'd be very close, though), but he's also facing the guy who broke Batman's back, and usually fights Batman to draws. This is a guy who is as intelligent and cunning as he is strong...

Magneto is at his most dangerous when he has a cadre of loyalists (Genosha, Acolytes, Brotherhood, AOA X-Men) Here he has Catwoman...

Bill Casey
October 19th, 2005, 2:17 AM
Oh, and one more thing...

What If? Volume Two
Issue Ninety Four

Juggernaut faces Magneto
Juggernaut wins

Zefflin
October 19th, 2005, 6:03 PM
Sorry for not putting up new rounds quickly enough. I'm glad your all voting but my computer is shit lately so I have to wait and see when my computer is in the mood to work. It is today so I'll put 8 or more new fights by the end of tonight.

Again, thanks for voting and thanks for the patience.

Well, I didn't vote yet so...

Captain Britain/Green Lantern
Superman/Reed Richards
Wonder Woman/Torch
Dr. Doom/Doc Ock
Strange/Red Skull
Green Goblin/Storm
Joker/Lex
Juggernaut/Bane

So the teams of...all advance.

Captain Britain/Green Lantern
Superman/Reed Richards
Wonder Woman/Torch
Dr. Doom/Doc Ock
Strange/Red Skull
Joker/Lex
Juggernaut/Bane

But the DareDevil/Rogue Green Goblin/Storm match was a tie. So I guess I'll deal with that later.

Zefflin
October 19th, 2005, 10:42 PM
Round 1

Avalanche and Banshee

http://members.aol.com/thefightingfury/whoclix/aval.gif
http://www.selenity.net/xmen/gallery/hero/banshee.jpg

VS

Wolverine and Bishop

http://oneshot.anifics.com/xmen/wolverine14.jpg
http://www.omelete.com.br/imagens/quadrinhos/news/xmen/bishop.jpg

Zefflin
October 19th, 2005, 10:46 PM
Round 1

Venom and Gambit

http://www.modelman5.com/images/venom.jpg
http://philippe.tromeur.free.fr/marvel/images/Gambit.jpg

VS

Carnage and Cyclops

http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/images/carnage/carnage.jpg
http://www.intuitivewebdesigns.com/comics/graphics/xmen/cyclops2.jpg

Zefflin
October 19th, 2005, 10:50 PM
Round 1

Professor X and Forge

http://www.devir.com.br/xmen/imgs/pc_xavier.jpg
http://www.selenity.net/xmen/gallery/hero/forge.jpg

VS

Colossus and Savage Dragon

http://www.selenity.net/xmen/gallery/hero/colossus.gif
http://www.dragonfan.com/images/news/SDTPB11preview.jpg

Zefflin
October 19th, 2005, 10:56 PM
Round 1

Thor and Havok

http://www.diamondcomics.com/previews/editorial/misc_articles/marvel_cards/thor.jpg
http://emulazione.multiplayer.it/gameover/frame/imagegui/xmen2ma/havok2.jpg

VS

Iron Man and Hobgoblin

http://www.urbanshogun.com/matrix/iron_man_color.jpg
http://pc59te.dte.uma.es/cdb/series/marvel/bitmaps/hobgoblin.jpg

Zefflin
October 19th, 2005, 11:00 PM
Round 1

Scarlet Witch and Purgatori

http://www.vampyres-online.com/images/purgatori.jpg
http://www.mcnabbstudios.com/whats_new/topps_cards/scarlet_witch.jpg

VS

Hulk and Namor

http://www.incrediblehulk.com/us7.JPG
http://www.lambiek.net/artists/everett_bill/everett_namor.jpg

Zefflin
October 19th, 2005, 11:06 PM
Round 1

Doomsday and Hawkeye

http://www.terra.es/personal/mbayona/dooms.jpg
http://pc59te.dte.uma.es/cdb/series/marvel/bitmaps/hawkeye.jpg

VS

Optimus Prime and Bullseye

http://img29.photobucket.com/albums/v87/kenm2474/Optimus_Prime.jpg
http://www.videogallerylakegeneva.com/graphic/bullseye.jpg

Zefflin
October 19th, 2005, 11:12 PM
Round 1

Sentinal and Megatron

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0507/16/sentinel1.jpg
http://www.insecticons.com/images/Megatron-06.jpg

VS

Ice Man and Pyro

http://jar.respark.net/iceman.jpg
http://www.gamebanshee.com/xmenlegends/villains/images/pyro.jpg

RabidWookie
October 19th, 2005, 11:55 PM
Wolvie/Bishop
Venom/Gambit...tough one though
Xavier/Forge
Thor/Havok
Scarlet WItch/Purgatory
Doomsday/Hawkeye
Sentinel/Megatron

Bill Casey
October 20th, 2005, 12:16 AM
Wait...
Is there only one sentinel?

Mister J
October 20th, 2005, 12:45 AM
Wolverine/Bishop = Gimme a break. Nothing but a light warm up for Wolvie here.

I don't know about this next one. A semi sane symbiote with a mildly useful X-man, or a completely insane symbiote with an extremely useful X-man. Tough call...

Carnage/Cyclops :dunno:

Prof X/Forge = "Oh you want to be living metal, and a monster man-dragon too? Ok, that's fine. Let me just turn off your brain for a sec..." Seems a little over-powered, and the only way to stop Prof X is with some techno gadget to block him, but, oh, he has Forge to figure out how to get around that...

Thor/Havok = Iron Man would put up a good fight, but ultimately would be let down by his lackluster partner.

Hulk/Namor = Beat down city! Let's just hope it's regular Marvel U Hulk, not Ultimate Hulk, or the ladies have way more to worry about then getting beaten... :scared:

Doomsday/Hawkeye = Hawkeye is more tactical than Bullseye, if only slightly. And Optimus is a giant hunk of metal. Doomsday beat down Superman for christ's sake...

Iceman/Pyro = I'm only going this route because they are my two all time favorite X-men characters. A sentinel would be useful, especially in the hands of Megatron, but both these guys have taken down sentinels before.

Wiganer
October 20th, 2005, 1:58 AM
Wolverine and Bishop

no question

Carnage and Cyclops

Good match, except Gambit is shit

Professor X and Forge

Didn't really need to look at their opponents to see who would win

Thor and Havok

Should thor be in this, technically he is a god?

Hulk and Namor

Never heard of the other two

Optimus Prime and Bullseye

Ice Man and Pyro

RabidWookie
October 20th, 2005, 2:01 AM
Come on...nobody is picking Scarlet Witch? She can just conjure up a billion Hulks and make him fight himself to death.

TRO
October 20th, 2005, 2:27 AM
The image of Sue Storm is great. :yes: Gee whillikers...

Mazer
October 20th, 2005, 7:41 AM
Wolverine/Bishop
Carnage/Cyclops
Charles Xavier/Forge-This is a good match-up for Chuck. There might be a few people with specific resistances that could give hime problems,but with Forge as his partner. all he has to do is slow them down enough for Forge to invent something to take care of the problem.
Thor/Havok
Scarlet Witch/Purgatori-This is a tough call. Hulk and Namor are derfinately a tough team, and I don't know much about Purgatori (she's a vamp, but is she special beyond that?). But since Wanda has recently altered all of reality, gotta go with that.
Iceman/Pyro
Doomsday/Hawkeye

Aeida
October 20th, 2005, 7:50 AM
Wolverine and Bishop: Its Wolvie... what more can i say

Venom and Gambit: Hard to pick really, i like both teams, Venom and Carnage are the best Spiderman villians, and Gambit a Cyclops are Xmen so they rule too... I just Like Gambit more i guess

Professor X and Forge: No Question...

Iron Man and Hobgoblin: Dunno why....

Hulk and Namor: As Above...

Optimus Prime and Bullseye: Bullseye doesn't have a picture for me :(

Ice Man and Pyro: I just gotta say i like Bobby Drake

Mister J
October 20th, 2005, 9:25 AM
Ok, so who's gonna make the Scarlet Witch go completely ape shit so she can start altering all reality in this match? She never had that power until now, and there is NO WAY that chick is playing with a full deck. She's too unstable, therefore, she's destined to be a Hulk snack...

Mazer
October 20th, 2005, 9:39 AM
Since she's been completely ape shit for a while now, so having the Hulk about to have a go could push her over the edge. Being unstable may not work against her here. Wanda occasionally showed flashes of major power before (resurrecting people, etc.), so its hard to say what her normal power level is. But at the very least, she's been on a hell of a crazy roll lately.

Jimmy Zero
October 20th, 2005, 11:33 AM
Wolverine/Bishop: I don't think this matchup is as one sided as some people are making out. Wolverine would have one hell of a time dealing with Banshee, what with Wolvie's super sensitive hearing. With out Bishop here, who I think is probably the perfect team mate for Wolverine, acting as a buffer this would probably go the other way. Bishop being able to absorb and redirect Banshee and Avalanche's energies is the difference maker.

Carnage/Cyclops: Gambit would get whooped by Cyclops any day of the week. That's not even a contest. The real difference maker in this one is Carnage vs. Venom. With Cyclops's power on his side, Carnage is going to come out on the winning side. Especially if they go the methodical double team route. A well placed optic blast on either Venom or Gambit would incapacitate them long enough for a double team to completely remove the other from the fight.

Colossus/Dragon: I'm changing this one, since I didn't know that Dragon's mind can't be entered. This fight takes about two seconds, with Xavier and Forge ending up as stains on the ground.

Hulk/Namor: This is one hell of a powerhouse team, right here. Considering I have no clue who Purgatori is, and I don't think much of Scarlet Witch, I'm giving the nod to Hulk and Namor.

Thor/Havok: Havok by himself could probably take out Iron Man and Hobgoblin. Put Thor on his side and it's almost no contest. Considering that Hobgoblin is just as outclassed in this tournament as Green Goblin was, he'd probably go down in one or two energy discharges/hammer throws. Iron Man would put up more of a fight, considering his fire power and defensive capabilities, but against one of the more powerful Asgardians and a mutant as powerful as Cyclops, it's only a matter of time.

Doomsday/Hawkeye: Come on. No contest. Doomsday DESTROYS Optimus prime and Bullseye, while Hawkeye sits back and watches. If he does get involved, all he'd have to do is safely stay behind Big D and try and take out Bullseye, since he really couldn't do the damage to Prime necesary to take him down as quickly and efficiently as Doomsday could.

Iceman/Pyro: This is a great team, who I see going pretty damn far. Their powers perfectly complement eachother, obviously. Iceman freezes the Sentinel, allowing them to deal with the more dangerous foe first. Pyro can create diversions with his flame control which would allow Iceman to take Megatron out at the legs with some sort of freeze/shatter deal. Pyro can then turn to the still frozen Sentinel and heat him up more quickly than the plastic that the Sentinel is complosed of can handle, causing it to blow up.

toysailor
October 20th, 2005, 12:00 PM
Wolverine/Bishop - What ^^^ they said.

Cyclops/Carnage - Very close match though. I can see cyclops taking out Gambit after a tough fight. 2 v 1 and Venom loses.

Xavier/Forge - Charlie can probably take this one on his own.

Thor/Havok - God-incarnate vs Man in souped-up Suit? God wins. Goblin can't do much in this encounter.

Witch/Purgatori - Namor is shit. Hulk is almost impervious to physical attacks. Tough luck he's facing a probability field altering witch.

Doomsday/whatshisname - The ugly mofo who whupped Superman's superass will rip poor optimus to shreds. Eats bullseye as an afterthought.

Ice Man/Pyro - "Science 101: Do you know what happens to metal when it cools quickly?"





Someone made a suggestion about a 4-member tag tourney a few posts up. I think that's a good idea. There are more dynamics and speculation in a 4v4 match; which can conceivably make voting more fun. Besides, its mildly disheartening to see characters with potential being completely let down by their tag-partner (e.g. The Thing with OMGWTFROFLOL BOY WONDER!!!11!).

Zefflin
October 20th, 2005, 12:39 PM
Wolverine and Bishop

Venom and Gambit: Wow. This is a real close fight. I honestly think that both Gambit and Cyclops could take out both Venom and Carnage. But if Gambit throws a card at Cyclops' eyes...game over.

Xavier and Forge

Thor and Havok: I think this is pretty close as well. Hobgoblin could do more than distract Havok. And Thor taking on Iron Man would be fairly even. But, in the long run...

Scarlet Witch and Purgatori

Doomsday and Hawkeye

Ice Man and Pyro

Zefflin
October 20th, 2005, 12:41 PM
Wait...
Is there only one sentinel?

Yes.

Bill Casey
October 20th, 2005, 1:13 PM
Avalanche and Banshee vs. Wolverine and Bishop

Wolverine and Bishop.

Sound is a wave that functionally transfers energy. Bishop can absorb energy from various sources. Usually, sound wouldn't be much of a source for him, but Banshee is pure sonic power. Even if Bishop couldn't absorb Banshee's power, Wolverine would be formidable on his own against Avabanshee, add in Bishop and you edge out the win.



Venom and Gambit vs. Carnage and Cyclops

Carnage and Cyclops

Venom and Carnage are so evenly matched that I'll have to defer to their counterparts to decide this one. I went with Cyclops, as his tactical advantage puts his team at an edge. He'll figure out a way to defeat his opponents beyond pure force.



Professor X and Forge vs. Colossus and Savage Dragon

Xavier and Forge.

I shouldn't even have to explain this one.



Thor and Havok vs. Iron Man and Hobgoblin

Thor and Havok.

Thor is in another league. You're talking about a guy who controls lightning facing a guy in a metal suit and a guy on a metal glider.



Scarlet Witch and Purgatori vs. Hulk and Namor

Hulk and Namor.

Purgatori's fairly powerful, but Hulk and Namor are stronger collectively. Namor's been known to possess magical artifacts, and Hulk's pure strength is powerful enough to take on magically enhanced villains like Juggernaut. Scarlet Witch's hex bolts will only help so much.



Doomsday and Hawkeye vs. Optimus Prime and Bullseye

Doomsday wins.

Poor Optimus and Bullseye didn't stand a chance.
Hawkeye celebrates in the distance with a bottle of champaign and three beautiful ladies while the fight is going on.


Sentinel and Megatron vs. Ice Man and Pyro

Iceman and Pyro.

One lousy Sentinel? I'm sorry, but the major strength of sentinels is their numbers. Megatron would shout, "YOU FOOL!!!" and then transform into a gun with nobody to hold him.

Bill Casey
October 20th, 2005, 1:19 PM
*double post*

Bill Casey
October 20th, 2005, 1:20 PM
But if Gambit throws a card at Cyclops' eyes...game over.
Any object thrown at an alert Cyclops would almost universally be counter blasted. You forget Cyclops has the secondary abilities of precision and caculating trajectories. That's why you should never face Cyclops in a game of pool. He's quite the pool shark.

Zefflin
October 20th, 2005, 1:44 PM
I was thinking along the lines of being a dirtbag. While he's blasting Venom. Gambit chucks a phonebook bomb at Cyclops head.

Zefflin
October 20th, 2005, 1:44 PM
Megatron would shout, "YOU FOOL!!!" and then transform into a gun with nobody to hold him.

:lol:

ysanthl
October 20th, 2005, 1:54 PM
Wolverine and Bishop - Bishop would just absorb what is being thrown at him while Wolverine would kick ass like normal.

Carnage and Cyclops - Carnage has proven more powerful than Venom before. As well being immune to fire? or was it sonics? And Cyclops is a major badass. Sorry to the 3rd Summers brother.

Colossus and Savage Dragon - Now i havent read everyone elses response yet so. Dargon cannot be mind controlled so he takes out Xavier with his pinky. And i don't think Forge can build a big enough gun to take both of em out.

Thor and Havok - Lots of freakin power here. My pick to go very far if not win this thing. Iron Man Has lots of tech but not enough to take out Thor and Havok.

Hulk and Namor - Sorry have nothing really to say here.

Doomsday and Hawkeye - No contest here.

Sentinal and Megatron - It has taken an entire team to take down a sentinel before. And you throw in Megatron. I like Iceman and he is powerful. But a second rate villan partner is not enough help to take both these 2 out.

Zefflin
October 20th, 2005, 2:50 PM
Colossus and Savage Dragon - Now i havent read everyone elses response yet so. Dargon cannot be mind controlled so he takes out Xavier with his pinky. And i don't think Forge can build a big enough gun to take both of em out.

If that's true then I have to chance my vote...

falconarrow
October 20th, 2005, 4:33 PM
Wolverine/Bishop = Watch them kick ass.

Carnage/Cyclops = Gambit is a smart and talented fighter, but not as good as Cyclops. He is cooler, but this isn't a popularity contest.

Colossus/Dragon = If Dragon is not mind controlled, they win. Simple as.

Thor/Havok = Iron man is shafted by is partner, just like Magneto and Thing.

Hulk/Namor = Beat down city indeed

Doomsday/Hawkeye = Would be a fun fight to see though.

Megatron/Sentinal = IMO, there should be about 3 sentinals. Its like saying Multiple Man can only make 1 copy. As someone said, their strength is their numbers. Either way, Iceman and Pyro will probably take out one, but not the other.

Tha Kyd
October 20th, 2005, 4:38 PM
wrong thread

Zefflin
October 20th, 2005, 4:41 PM
Megatron/Sentinal = IMO, there should be about 3 sentinals. Its like saying Multiple Man can only make 1 copy. As someone said, their strength is their numbers. Either way, Iceman and Pyro will probably take out one, but not the other.

No, there will be only one Sentinal. Otherwise it would be four on two. Which is stupid.

Mazer
October 20th, 2005, 5:16 PM
Colossus/Dragon = If Dragon is not mind controlled, they win. Simple as.

Unless Xavier controls Colossus and has him beat the hell out of Dragon as well.

Into the Black
October 20th, 2005, 5:21 PM
Round 1: Avalanche and Banshee vs. Wolverine and Bishop

Wolverine is just too strong for both Banshee and Avalanche. Avalanche can't effect living beings, so Wolverine would just find a way to get to him and slice him up good. Banshee could probably slow Wolverine down with his sonic waves, but would never be able to defeat him. Add Bishop to the team, and its a easy victory for these two X-Men

Winner: Wolverine and Bishop

Round 1: Venom and Gambit vs. Carnage and Cyclops

Vemon is pretty strong, but I don't think he is quick enough to get out of the way of a few well placed Cyclops beams. Gambit couldn't really harm Cyclops on his own either. Pretty much the way I see this... Carnage and Vemon cancle each other out, and Cyclops is greater than Gambit.

Winner: Carnage and Cyclops

Round 1: Professor X and Forge vs. Colossus and Savage Dragon
Professor X would probably have a lot of fun with this match. In the end Colossus and Savage Dragon would probably take out each other, after Professor X got them to believe that they were actually against each other. Forge would probably spend his time inventing a new form of hot pocket.

Winner: Professor X and Forge

Round 1: Thor and Havok vs. Iron Man and Hobgoblin

Thor could easily handle this one on his own. Add Havok sending waves of plasma throughout the battle and you got a really quick and easy battle.

Winner: Thor and Havok

Round 1: Scarlet Witch and Purgatori vs. Hulk and Namor

I am going to go agianst the grain here and say Scarlet Witch might be able to handle Hulk. She effects probability, what if this causes Hulk to get weaker when he gets angry? Purgatori could handle Namor on the other end.

Winner: Scarlet Witch and Purgatori

Round 1: Doomsday and Hawkeye vs. Optimus Prime and Bullseye

Bullseye can't do anything to harm Doomsday. However I believe Bullseye and Hawkeye probably take either other out with a well aimed projectile. That leaves Doomsday vs Optimus Prime. Doomsday however would take Prime out, and win the match for his team.

Winner: Doomsday and Hawkeye

Round 1: Sentinel and Megatron vs. Ice Man and Pyro

The single Sentinel and Megatron would be frozen and unthawed so many times that they would just shut down. Fire and Ice are just too powerful here.

Winner: Ice Man and Pyro

Zefflin
October 20th, 2005, 6:47 PM
Unless Xavier controls Colossus and has him beat the hell out of Dragon as well.

Good point.

*changes vote again*

Zefflin
October 20th, 2005, 8:39 PM
Advancing teams...

Wolverine and Bishop

Carnage and Cyclops

Xavier and Forge

Thor and Havok

Hulk and Namor

Doomsday and Hawkeye

Ice Man and Pyro

Zefflin
October 20th, 2005, 8:48 PM
Round 1

Blob and Slayback

http://x-worldcomics.com/x/images/reviews/110701xmenunl33aa.JPG
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/eriebooksgalore/mu93/mu93030.jpg

VS

Cable and Nova

http://www.gottawiz.com/images/Comics/Marvel/XMen/X-Force/cable.jpg
http://pimpf.free.fr/Marvel/nova_pre1.jpg

Zefflin
October 20th, 2005, 8:56 PM
Round 1

Stryfe and Ghost Rider

http://home.planet.nl/~pjo/comics/sixpack/images/stryfe4.jpg
http://users.servicios.retecal.es/inmaferr/cine/ghostriderposter.jpg

VS

Spawn and Mystique

http://dimalanta.net/drawing/images/spawn.jpg
http://emulazione.multiplayer.it/gameover/frame/imagegui/xmen2ma/mystique.jpg

Zefflin
October 20th, 2005, 9:02 PM
Round 1

Darth Vader and Kraven

http://www.freecomputerdesktopwallpaper.com/new_wallpaper/Darth_Vader_mask_Star_Wars_free_computer_desktop_w allpaper_800.jpg
http://www.marveloverpower.com/OverPower/Marvel_OverPower/MarvelOverpowerPics/moppower/3Intellect_Kraven.jpg

VS

Brainiac and Kingpin

http://www.marveloverpower.com/OverPower/DC_OverPower/DCOverPowerPics/DCPowerCards/8Energy_Brainiac.jpg
http://www.spidermedia.ru/characters/marvel/original/images/kingpin.jpg

Zefflin
October 20th, 2005, 9:06 PM
Round 1

Violator/The Clown and Nightcrawler

http://namco-ch.net/spawn/characters/img/violator.jpg
http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~jmunro/Nightcrawler.jpg

VS

Sinestro and Sebastian Shaw

http://haljor.homestead.com/files/v_sinestro.gif
http://www.marveloverpower.com/OverPower/Marvel_OverPower/MarvelOverpowerPics/moppower/5Intellect_SebastianShaw.jpg

Zefflin
October 20th, 2005, 9:09 PM
Round 1

Mongul and Boba Fett

http://www.glcorps.org/mongul.gif
http://pirate.shu.edu/~codonan/New-Summer/Boba_Fett.jpg

VS

Omega Red and Green Arrow

http://ripgibbon.free.fr/images/Comics/Cards.Omega_Red.jpg
http://images.art.com/images/PRODUCTS/large/10093000/10093284.jpg

Zefflin
October 20th, 2005, 9:19 PM
Round 1

Lady Deathstrike and Ultron

http://www.the-wild-hunt.org/x-men/LadyDeathstrike.gif
http://members.aol.com/thefightingfury/whoclix/ultron.gif

VS

Vampira and Hank Pym

http://www.highlightzone.de/comic/comic_bilder/vampira.jpg
Shitty pics...
http://mfmckenna.home.comcast.net/links/courtmartial.jpg

Zefflin
October 20th, 2005, 9:23 PM
Round 1

The Absorbing Man and Archangel

http://www.marveloverpower.com/OverPower/Marvel_OverPower/MarvelOverpowerPics/moppower/2Fighting_AbsorbingMan.jpg
http://www.bearkey.com/photos/1110878057-archangel.jpg

VS

Bloodaxe and Jean Grey

http://www.immortalthor.net/bio-bloodaxe.jpg
http://waste.bydesignportfolio.com/Images/Jean%20Grey.jpg

RabidWookie
October 21st, 2005, 12:08 AM
Cable/Nova (who the fuck is Slayback?)
Spawn/Mystique
Brainiac/Kingpin
Violator/Nightcrawler
Mongul/Fett
Deathstrike/Ultron
Bloodaxe/Jean Grey

Jimmy Zero
October 21st, 2005, 2:08 AM
Cable/Nova: Blob wouldn't be too bad a member of a team if he was paired with someone else who was shafted, like Thing. That's a team I could see going a good two or three rounds. He wouldn't be bad with Cable, actually. But, with a turd like Slayback, it doesn't matter much. Going up against Cable doesn't help, either. Blob would neutralize Nova pretty easily. Slayback and Cable could just fight it out. Cable is more than capable of fighting someone with Slayback's powers with that staff he powers with his telekinesis. Or he could just mind fuck Blob and Slayback and end it before it starts.

Ghostrider/Stryfe: This fight could go either way, depending on how much cred you give Ghostrider. Considering that Stryfe is Cable's clone, he has the same considerable power of Cable, minus the techno-organic virus putting a strain on his body and powers. That would give Stryfe a decent chance to take on a team of Spawn and Mystique. Mystique wouldn't even factor into this fight. I'd say Stryfe alone wouldn't be enough to take out Spawn, but I think Ghostrider's help would tip the scales in Stryfe's favor in this one.

Braniac/Kingpin: Darth Vader can't hang with these two guys and their combined power. Brainiac is smart enough to come up with something to neutralize most, if not all, of Vader's offense, and Kingpin can fight well enough to deal with Kraven. Once he's done with Kraven, he finishes Bader off.

Violator/Nightcrawler: This one's pretty easy to call. Violator is far more power than the S's can handle. Nightcrawler coasts along.

Mongul/Boba Fett: Green Arrow is kind of a poof. He doesn't add much in a fight against someone capable of holding their own against Superman. I think Omega Red would at least put up a decent fight against Mongul and Fett, his death pheremone is pretty powerful, but it alone wouldn't be enough to get the job done.

Deathstrike/Ultron: Ultron would go super far by himself. Deathstrike isn't terrible and she could definitely be effective in some of these fights, but Ultron is pretty damn hard to beat. Depending on which Ultron incarnation we'd be talking about, he's got varying degrees of how dangerous he can be. Pym and Vampira would be pretty vulnerable in a fight with such different types of offenses coming at them at once.

Blood Axe/Jean Grey: I'm sick of writing all this. This is my vote.

RabidWookie
October 21st, 2005, 3:09 AM
Mongul. Alien tyrant who has gone toe-to-toe with Superman a few times. He's the ruler of a planet known as Warworld, where he hosts gladiator like fights.

Wiganer
October 21st, 2005, 3:51 AM
Cable and Nova
Stryfe and Ghost Rider
Darth Vader and Kraven
Violator/The Clown and Nightcrawler
Omega Red and Green Arrow
Lady Deathstrike and Ultron
Bloodaxe and Jean Grey

Mister J
October 21st, 2005, 8:38 AM
Cable and Nova

Stryfe and Ghostrider

Brainiac and Kingpin - I agree, Kingpin might be the ultimate crime boss, but dude could hold his own in a fight. And since he's 350 pds or more, that's a hella lot of holding.

Sinestro and Shaw - Power ring trumps goofy demon. And shaw is no slouch, once he's angered enough to actually fight.

Mongul and Fett - Mongul is a beast. In the new JLA, he fought a decent round against Batman, Superman AND Wonder Woman all at once. Sure, he got beat, but that's not surprising when it's the Big Three.

Deathstroke and Ultron - Vampira the late night horror movie host?? :confused: Doesn't matter, Pym is three shades of worthless...

Absorbing Man and Archangel - Absorbing Man has fought Thor to standstills or better multiple times in the past. And Blood Axe looks like a fricking fruitcake

Mazer
October 21st, 2005, 9:23 AM
Ultron/Deathstryke-Pym will always lose
Cable/Nova
Vader/Craven-Dont' know, may be Brainiac has some ability that would get him out of this, but Darth is supposed to be the second most pwerful man in his universe. Plus kraven isn't too bad. He has out and out defeated Spiderman previously.
Sinestro/Shaw-Sinestro is pretty powerful, and Shaw has some good abiliities as well.
Mongul/fett. Don't know much about Mongul, but if he can go toe to toe with Superman, he should be able to take Omega red. Plus, when comparing Fett and Green Arrow, I've gotta go with guns/lazers over a bow and arrow.

bloodaxe/jean-Abosorbing man is stupid as hell, and I get the feeling that jean would be able to mess with him enough to take him out. Although I don't know anything about bloodaxe, I'll have to guess he could contribute.
Stryfe/Ghostrider

ysanthl
October 21st, 2005, 11:04 AM
Cable and Nova - Know nothing about Slayback. Cable is a badass though so will pick his team.

Spawn and Mystique - While i respect Stryfe and Ghost Rider. I think Spawn is powerful enough to carry his team into the next round.

Darth Vader and Kraven

Sinestro and Sebastian Shaw


Mongul and Boba Fett - To much power with Mongul himself for Arrow and Red to handle.

Lady Deathstrike and Ultron - One person could take out the opposing team. Ultron could get ready for the next round while Lady took both out.

The Absorbing Man and Archangel - Absorbing Man can be very powerful. Would be close though Jean is powerful in her own right.

Wiganer
October 21st, 2005, 11:49 AM
I don't care how strong Kingpin is, if he can't breathe he will die.

And if the "they will come up with some technology to block the force" argument comes to it, the Darth is allowed to use his technology and blow up the planet.

falconarrow
October 21st, 2005, 12:43 PM
Cable/Nova: While Nova is very lame, Cable more than makes up for it. Blob is shafted, as one would assume this is his environment. But he is shafted.

Ghostrider/Stryfe: They win. Mystique, if on a team of 4, could be useful though.


Darth Vader/Kraven: Brainiac is smart. But Darth Vader has the force. Last I looked, the Force can't be controlled. But if anyone could, it'd be Brainiac. Kingpin is taken out quickly by either Kraven or by being choked. While choking him, Vader is vulnerable, but Kraven can hold his own long enough. Kingpin is an ok fighter, but not as good as Kraven. It all comes down to the two on one. Kraven is pushed to his limit. But I think Vader, being the 2nd most powerful individual in his universe, will win out here. Tough matchup.

Violator/Nightcrawler: Sinestro is shafted.

Mongul/Boba Fett: Mongul is too powerful, and Fett too dangerous. I am assuming this is adult Fett, btw.

Deathstrike/Ultron: Pym can grow to AMAZING heights. But without an entire team of Avengers, he can't defeat his creation or Deathstrike.

Blood Axe/Jean Grey: Sure

Bill Casey
October 21st, 2005, 3:25 PM
Blob and Slayback vs. Cable and Nova

Cable and Nova.

Slayback and Blob are Bush-League. Not nearly of the same calibre as Cable. Nova's decent enough to hold his own. Slayback and Blob are just outclassed here.


Stryfe and Ghost Rider vs. Spawn and Mystique

Stryfe and Ghost Rider.

In a tournament environment, Mystique doesn't have the stealth advantage. Spawn and Ghost Rider are pretty evenly matched in my book, so Stryfe is the determining factor.


Darth Vader and Kraven vs. Brainiac and Kingpin

Brainiac and Kingpin

This was a tough one, but Brainiac as his best is a destroyer of worlds, and doesn't need a Deathstar to do so. Kingpin's disentigrator cane, various devices hidden in his suit and massive strength and agility make him formidable enough to hold his own.


Violator/The Clown and Nightcrawler vs. Sinestro and Sebastian Shaw

Violator and Nightcrawler

Nightcrawler teleports Sinestro's finger off. The Violator could just pick up Shaw in one hand. Shaw absorbs no impact, he gets no strength, he can't fight out. Selene did the same trick with a stone hand. Violator can do it on his own.


Mongul and Boba Fett vs. Omega Red and Green Arrow

Mongul and Fett

Mongul is the MVP of this bout. Boba Fett and Green Arrow are pretty evenly matched.


Lady Deathstrike and Ultron vs. Vampira and Hank Pym

Lady Deathstrike and Ultron

duh.


The Absorbing Man and Archangel vs. Bloodaxe and Jean Grey

Bloodaxe and Jean Grey

Bloodaxe is a Thor Villain. He found an enchanted executioner's axe that gave him super strength, agility, speed, durability, reflexes and the ability to shoot magical bolts and generate hurricanes from his Axe, as well as create dimensional rifts. That should sufficiently explain why I went with this team.

Into the Black
October 21st, 2005, 9:29 PM
Round 1: Blob and Slayback vs. Cable and Nova

It may be hard to harm the blob, but I think Cable and Nova would be able to do it. On the other hand I can't see the blob doing much damage to either one of these guys. Slayback isn't in the same class as these two either.

Winner: Cable and Nova

Round 1: Stryfe and Ghost Rider vs. Spawn and Mystique

I sort of disagree with what Bill Casey said. Mystique can disquise herself as one of her opponents. She could make herself into Stryfe and then Ghost Rider wouldn't know who to attack. Spawn has some powers, but isn't that great. I guess in the end though Stryfe and Ghost Rider would win though. Because Ghost Rider and Stryfe could each take on a clone without special abilities.

Winner: Stryfe and Ghost Rider

Round 1: Darth Vader and Kraven vs. Brainiac and Kingpin

Darth Vader should be able to take care of Kingpin. He has a lightsaber, mind control, and the ability to move objects using the force. If he comes in after Kingpin with that sword nothing is going to stop it. Brainiac would be very tough for either Vader or Kraven to take down, but since I believe Kingpin would be quick work, I think the two could take him out.

Winner: Darth Vader and Kraven

Round 1: Mongul and Boba Fett vs. Omega Red and Green Arrow

Boba Fett and Green Arrow would have a very interesting fight. I however believe that Fett would win by using his grappeling hook to take away the bow and arrows. Omega Red is no match for Mongul though, so in the end Mongul and Fett would walk away with this one.

Winner: Boba Fett and Mongul

Round 1: Violator/The Clown and Nightcrawler vs. Sinestro and Sebastian Shaw

Nighcrawler would never get hurt in this battle with his teleportation. Violater would be able to handle Shaw on his own, while Nightcrawler kept Sinestro busy. After that it would be two on one, and Sinestro doesn't stand a chance.

Winner: Violator and Nightcrawler

Round 1: Lady Deathstrike and Ultron vs. Vampira and Hank Pym

Pretty simple win for Deathstrike and Ultron. Its like Andre the Giant vs. Miny Doink the Clown.

Winner: Lady Deathstike and Ultron

Round 1: The Absorbing Man and Archangel vs. Bloodaxe and Jean Grey

Jean Gray and Bloodaxe would win this fight, mostly for the reasons Bill Casey said. Jean Grey's abilites would come in handy, as she would be able to learn the strategy of the opponents and work well with Bloodaxe to take out the team of Archangel and the Absorbing Man.

Winner: Bloodaxe and Jean Grey

Zefflin
October 22nd, 2005, 12:44 PM
Round 1 is over

The advancing teams are...

Cable/Nova
Stryfe/Ghost Rider
Darth Vader/Kraven
Violater/Nightcrawler
Mongul/Boba Fett
Lady Deathstrike/Ultron
Bloodaxe/Jean Gray

Thanks for voting everyone. Time to start Round 2!

Zefflin
October 22nd, 2005, 1:00 PM
Round 2

Deadpool and Clayface

http://www.samruby.com/Heroes/Deadpool/Deadpool02Shot.gif
http://www.batman-superman.com/batman/img/clayface1.gif

VS

Mr. Sinister and Black Panther

http://www.fanlistings.org/mr_sinister/images/sinister_about.jpg
http://www.imakinarium.net/comic/Homenajes/Daredevil/pl04blackpanther2099.jpg

Zefflin
October 22nd, 2005, 1:01 PM
Round 2

Beta Ray Bill and Spiderman

http://www.diamondcomics.com/news_images/15541_34884_1.jpg
http://www.intuitivewebdesigns.com/comics/graphics/spiderman/spider4.gif

VS

War Machine and Molecule Man

http://www.amazingcomics.it/warmachine_1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/eriebooksgalore/mu93/mu93078.jpg

Zefflin
October 22nd, 2005, 1:02 PM
Round 2

Dormammu and Iron Fist

http://www.marveloverpower.com/OverPower/Marvel_OverPower/MarvelOverpowerPics/moppower/7AnyPower_Dormammu.jpg
http://www.samruby.com/Heroes/Ironfist/IronfistKick.gif

VS

Multiple Man and Batman

http://underworld.fortunecity.com/blood/201/marvel/multiman001.jpg
http://www.xasa.com/postales/comic/batman/b867660.jpg

Zefflin
October 22nd, 2005, 1:04 PM
Round 2

Annihilus and Scorpion

http://comolo.redsectorart.com/images/villains/images/annihil2.jpg
http://www.spiderman-fan.de/pics/scorpion.jpg

VS

Rictor and Sauron

http://tn3.deviantart.com/300W/fs6.deviantart.com/i/2005/088/b/0/Rictor_Finished_by_Ian_Nottingham.jpg
http://members.aol.com/drg4/sauronpic.jpg

ysanthl
October 22nd, 2005, 1:59 PM
Wow first match up and i am stuck on a winner. Hopefully this isn't a trend to come.
Deadpool and Clayface - I think Panther and Deadpool are pretty evenly matched. Panther may be the better fighter. But Pool has his healing factor. I give this to Pool and Clay though because i think Clayface will just suffocate Panther and then they both take out Sinister. 2 killers on a tame means no worries if your partner will stop you short of a quick kill.

War Machine and Molecule Man - Moecule man has enough power to take em both out. Barely though.

Dormammu and Iron Fist - I don't care how much preperation Batman has. Dormammu has to much magical power and would win this. Iron Fist might actually have to fight this time though.

Annihilus and Scorpion - Doesn't it take the entire FF to take Annihilus down? How will some X-forcer and a flying reptile even come close then?

Mister J
October 22nd, 2005, 2:04 PM
Tough ones this time...

Sinister/Panther - I just think Sinister would have to many secret weapons ready to pop out in case of trouble. I think Panther could take Deadpool, at least to a draw, and Sinister could wipe Clayface out with a few well placed explosives. Then it would be double team time, and that's that.

Beta Ray Bill/Spider Man - Insanely difficult to call. I could go either way. I know Molecule Man is pretty unstoppable, but throwing a God clone against him might be the way to do it. I think Spider Man could take out a b-lister like War Machine with some effort, and Bill could call on some pretty sick power when needed. Still, really close...

Dormammu/Iron Fist - Batman is a tough cookie, especially with his clone army ready to go. But Dormammu would find a way to incapacitate Multiple Man, and while Batman is tough, he couldn't stand up to a magic super-charged Iron Fist.

Annihilus/Scorpion - It's like "Attack of the Mediocre Men!". Still, I still think Rictor is the poor man's Avalanche, and though Scorpion is definately less powerful than him, he is a very experienced scrapper. Sauron would have a swipe at controlling Scorpion, but I think Annihilus could nullify that advantage.

Bill Casey
October 22nd, 2005, 2:15 PM
Deadpool and Clayface vs. Mr. Sinister and Black Panther

Mister Sinister and Black Panther

Mister Sinister can handle anything Deadpool or Clayface could throw at them, and Black Panther's vibranium suit stops bullets and even takes away their momentum. So guns are rendered useless against this team. Deadpool's healing factor is nothing compared to Sinister's, and he'd eventually go down.


Beta Ray Bill and Spiderman vs. War Machine and Molecule Man

Beta Ray Bill and Spiderman

Despite his much vaunted powers, Molecule Man isn't even the most dangerous of all the FF villains. He's the kind of guy who rarely lives up to his potential. Spiderman and Beta Ray edge out the win by tricking Molecule Man into using his wand on organic matter, which would cause a huge backlash capable of defeating him.


Dormammu and Iron Fist vs. Multiple Man and Batman

The Bat Army

A Wizard and a Ninja vs. Batman and a cadre of well armed bat-soldiers. Hmmm. Keep in mind, Batman only has to trap Dormammu to beat him, and since this is the second round of a tournament, he's already formulated the strategies.


Annihilus and Scorpion vs. Rictor and Sauron

Annihilus and Scorpion

Scorpion would be easily hypnotised, but you'd need more than Sauron, Rictor and Scorpion to take down Annihilus. Annihilus shoves his cosmic control rod up their asses for the win.

Jimmy Zero
October 22nd, 2005, 3:18 PM
These are some good match ups:

Sinister/Panther: The only advantage Deadpool would have in a fight against Panther would be his healing factor. It wouldn't make much difference, though, because all of Deadpool's major offensive punch comes from either bullets or swords. Not very effective against Panther, who is a much better hand to hand fighter than Deadpool. This fight will be decided by whether or not Clayface could find a way to somehow contain Sinister, since neither CF or DP is capable of applying any sort of "knock out" punch to Sinister. Considering that there's no way in hell that a lot of clay could ever contain one of the smartest AND most powerful mutants around, Sinister and Panther win this one pretty easily.

Molecule Man/War Machine: As seen in the Secret Wars, Doom helped Molecule Man expand the scope of his powers to include the manipulation of organic molecules. It turned out that MM had some sort of mental block that limited his effective use of his powers. That being the case, this fight wouldn't take much time. War Machine would probably go down pretty fast because, quite simply, he sucks. A lot. Even with Spidey's speed, he's really no match for Molecule Man. This one would come down to BRB and MM, with MM's molecule manipulation trumping rip off Thor power.

Dormmamu/Iron Fist: I don't care how much preparation Batman has, there's no way he takes out Dormmamu. No way. The only equal big D even has, magic wise, is Strange. Batman can not contain the sheer scope of Dormmamu's near limitless magical ability. Considering that Maddrux blows, being out fitted with Bat-weapons will only help him and his clones so far, especially against someone capable of fighting many enemies at once, like Iron Fist. Iron Fist deals with the Bat army while Dormmamu deals with Batman.

Annihilus/Scorpion: What Bill said, basically. Blastaar should have been Annlhilus' partner, for old time's sake.

Zefflin
October 22nd, 2005, 3:34 PM
Mister Sinister and Black Panther

Beta Ray Bill and Spiderman

The Bat Army

Annihilus and Scorpion

Bill Casey
October 22nd, 2005, 3:35 PM
As seen in the Secret Wars, Doom helped Molecule Man expand the scope of his powers to include the manipulation of organic molecules.
You shouldn't include Secret Wars Molecule Man; that's like including Cosmic Spiderman, Phoenix Jean Grey or New Sun Gambit...

Zefflin
October 22nd, 2005, 3:39 PM
You shouldn't include Secret Wars Molecule Man; that's like including Cosmic Spiderman...

And that's why I'm using Jean Gray instead of Pheonix.

Jimmy Zero
October 22nd, 2005, 3:39 PM
Why's that? Almost all the characters involved in Secret Wars, at least from the good guys side, had lasting effects in their lives from the Secret Wars. Spidey got the symbiote, Hulk broke his leg (not a big deal, no), Thing quite the FF, the X-Men were displaced into another dimension, I believe. Secret Wars Molecule Man became far more dangerous than ever before because of the confidence Doom gave him.

EDIT: Unless, he just reverted back to the same old pussy.

Bill Casey
October 22nd, 2005, 3:41 PM
Because Secret Wars Molecule Man would be disqualified from the tournament for being too powerful, like Phoenix, Beyonder and Thanos...

Jimmy Zero
October 22nd, 2005, 3:43 PM
Well, I wondered why he was even in the tournament to begin with, considering his almost limitless power. I've been evaluating these match ups so far by assuming that everyone would be at full power, or in their prime.

Bill Casey
October 22nd, 2005, 3:50 PM
No, people in this tournament should be functioning at their normal capacities, unless he was teamed with someone capable of unlocking his mental blocks like Doom or Strange...

Mazer
October 22nd, 2005, 4:50 PM
Sinister/Panther
BRB/Spidey
Dormammu/Iron Fist
Annihilus/Scorpion

Zaek
October 22nd, 2005, 4:59 PM
Mister Sinister and Black Panther

Beta Ray Bill and Spiderman

Multiple Man And The Bat

Annihilus and Scorpion

Jimmy Zero
October 22nd, 2005, 6:05 PM
No, people in this tournament should be functioning at their normal capacities, unless he was teamed with someone capable of unlocking his mental blocks like Doom or Strange...

I was thinking peak normal capacities. Like Doom now with his added magical capabilities is more powerful than Doom had been for almost 40 years prior.

RabidWookie
October 22nd, 2005, 11:34 PM
Mr. Sinister and Black Panther
Beta Ray Bill and Spiderman
Multiple Man and Batman
Annihilus and Scorpion

Into the Black
October 23rd, 2005, 3:04 AM
Round 2: Deadpool and Clayface vs. Mr. Sinister and Black Panther

Very tough match. Deadpool would be super hard to damage with his healing abilities, and I don't really see Black Panter doing much to keep him out of this match. At the same time, I think Black Panter would be too quick for Deadpool to damage as well. Mister Sinister is really the MVP of this match. His telepathy and shapeshifting would give him the edge to eventually confuse and take out Deadpool and Clayface.

Winner: Mr. Sinister and Black Panther

Round 2: Beta Ray Bill and Spiderman vs. War Machine and Molecule Man

Spiderman for all he's worth can put up one hell of a fight against almost anyone in this tournament. War Machine may have a great array of weapons, but Spiderman should be able to take him out with his quickness and webbing. Beta Ray Bill is pretty much the same as Thor, which makes him a great asset to any team he is on. Beta Ray should be able to handle Molecule Man, though I could almost see that going either way. Very close in the end, but Spiderman and Beta Ray are just too powerful for Molecule Man to take down.

Winner: Beta Ray Bill and Spiderman

Round 2: Dormammu and Iron Fist vs. Multiple Man and Batman

Batman is probably one of the smartest people in this tourney. He alone would most likely make pretty quick work of Iron Fist. I think that Batman would just have too many weapons, and he can hold his own in hand to hand combat. Add multiple man to his side, and Dormammu would be outmatched easily.

Winner: Batman and Multiple Man

Round 2: Annihilus and Scorpion vs. Rictor and Sauron

This battle is all about the Cosmic Control Rod. Without it this would easily go to Rictor and Sauron, but with it Annihilus is a very strong fighter in this tourney. Scorpion and Sauron would probably have a pretty good matchup, with would most likely go Sauron's way. In the end though Annihilus would pull it out.

Winner: Annihilus and Scorpion

Wiganer
October 23rd, 2005, 7:34 AM
Mr. Sinister and Black Panther
Beta Ray Bill and Spiderman
Multiple Man and Batman
Rictor and Sauron

toysailor
October 23rd, 2005, 9:10 AM
Sinister/Panther - Deadpool is just a glorified punching-bag in a world of super duper powers. I don't expect Clayface to be able to hurt Sinister too. Sinister wins easily.


.....At first the Molecule Man focused his power through a "magic wand" that could only affect inorganic molecules, and at times actually resided in the wand before learning to pull himself together. As time went on, he expanded his powers, becoming able to destroy and recreate Captain America's shield, the Silver Surfer's board, and Thor's hammer! After he lost the final "psychological blocks" on his powers, Reece discovered he could control all the elements in the periodic table, giving him near-infinite power. Surprisingly, discovering he was near-omnipotent caused Reece to retire from the super-villain biz for a while.

The key word here is "psychological blocks". The power was always with Molecule Man. Not like Jean Gray who was linked to the primal energy force "Phoenix". He should be able to school spidey/thor-clone.

Dormammu/Iron Fist - Batman never jobs. But what can he do against magical beings? :(

Annihilus/Scorpion - What they said.

falconarrow
October 23rd, 2005, 1:13 PM
Round 2: Deadpool and Clayface vs. Mr. Sinister and Black Panther

Black Panther is extremely quick and agile. I think he could hold off Deadpool long enough for Sinister to do damage. But all it would take is Clayface to get a hold of T'Challa, and he won't be able to get out. Basically, they lose because they don't have enough offense. The match should still go on a long time. But basically, I think that Clayface and Deadpool will be able to do alot to Sinister. Enough to take him out.

Winner: Clayface and Deadpool

Round 2: Beta Ray Bill and Spiderman vs. War Machine and Molecule Man

Molecule man's "mental blocks" doom his team.

Winner: Beta Ray Bill and Spiderman

Round 2: Dormammu and Iron Fist vs. Multiple Man and Batman

Yeah. Do you think in the 50+ years Batman has been around in comics, that he has never beaten magical beings or demons? So I'll vote for him partially due to that, partially due to the fact that Dormammu doesn't belong in this tournament.

Winner: Batman and Multiple Man

Round 2: Annihilus and Scorpion vs. Rictor and Sauron

Annihilus. Rictor and Sauron have nothing that can damage him.

Winner: Annihilus and Scorpion

Zefflin
October 23rd, 2005, 1:15 PM
Advancing teams are...

Mister Sinister and Black Panther

Beta Ray Bill and Spiderman

Multiple Man And The Bat Army

Annihilus and Scorpion

New rounds in a bit...don't start voting until I'm done with all the fights.

Zefflin
October 23rd, 2005, 1:57 PM
God damn it... everyone, I need a quick re-vote so I can advance the new rounds.

Round 1 Rematch

Daredevil and Rogue

http://www.tegneserieguiden.net/usa/daredevil/daredevil.jpg
http://www.xmenclan.org/rogue_av.jpg

VS

Green Goblin and Storm

http://www.huninfo.hu/torzi/weblog/green_goblin.jpg
http://www.xmen.dk/Storm2.jpg

Zefflin
October 23rd, 2005, 1:59 PM
Green Goblin and Storm.