Doctor Who

[Mark Humphries]

The new actor to play the 9th Doctor Who has been announced as it is The Star of the 'Second Coming' and '28 Days Later' Christopher Eccleston!

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Eccleston to Take Control of the Tardis

By Rachel Williams, PA News


Actor Christopher Eccleston is to be the new Doctor Who when the cult sci-fi show returns to our screens next year, it was announced tonight.

Eccleston, star of Flesh and Blood and The Second Coming, will appear as the TV Time Lord in the 13-part BBC1 series to be shown in 2005.

The BBC said the Salford-born 40-year-old would take the famous doctor into the 21st century in a “fresh and modern approach” involving travelling through time and space and fighting monsters on all fronts.

Jane Tranter, BBC Controller of Drama Commissioning, said: “We are delighted to have cast an actor of such calibre in one of British television’s most iconic roles.

“It signals our intention to take Doctor Who into the 21st century, as well as retaining its core traditional values – to be surprising, edgy and eccentric.

“We have chosen one of Britain’s finest actors to play what, in effect, will be an overtly modern hero.”

Executive producer and writer Russell T Davies said: “We considered many great actors for this wonderful part, but Christopher was our first choice.

“This man can give the Doctor a wisdom, wit and emotional range as far-reaching as the Doctor’s travels in time and space.

“His casting raises the bar for all of us. It’s going to be a magnificent, epic, entertaining journey, and I can’t wait to start.”

The series will be filmed in Cardiff later this year.


The writers signed for the first season of the new Doctor Who series. Joining producer Russell T. Davies, who will pen 8 episodes himself, are:

Mark Gatiss, best known as the writer and co-creator of "The League of Gentlemen" and the author of several Doctor Who stories including the novels "Last of the Gaderene," "St. Anthony's Fire," "The Roundheads" and "Nightshade" and the Big Finish audios "Phantasmagoria" and "Invaders from Mars," and who penned several of the P.R.o.B.e. videos for BBV

Steven Moffat, the creator of BBC2's popular comedy series "Coupling" which won "Sitcom of the Year" at the British Comedy Awards, and whose previous Doctor Who credit was the teleplay for the Comic Relief special "The Curse of Fatal Death" with Rowan Atkinson, Julia Sawalha and Jonathan Pryce

Paul Cornell, the popular writer whose work includes episodes of "Casualty," "Wavelength," "Doctors," "Children's Ward" and "Springhill," and whose Doctor Who works include such novels as "Happy Endings," "Love and War," "The Shadows of Avalon" and both the screenplay for and novelisation of BBCi's "The Scream of the Shalka"

Rob Shearman, an acclaimed playwright and stage writer who has written Big Finish's most popular Doctor Who audio teleplays including "The Holy Terror," "The Chimes of Midnight," "Jubilee," "Scherzo" and "Deadline," and who was awarded Writer of the Year at 2003's Doctor Who Magazine awards in London in November

Producer Mal Young told Ariel, "I've never received so many requests from writers and actors to be involved in a drama series, as I have had for Doctor Who." Added producer Julie Gardner, "Finding writers for the new series of Doctor Who has been one of the best jobs I've ever had. The talent available was exceptional." Davies himself noted that he believes that he has "the best people in the business now working on the best show. They'll be writing stories ranging across the whole of time and space. The Doctor and Rose already have the best allies on their journey - brilliant writers with brilliant scripts. It's an honour to work with these people who are so talented; they shouldn't be allowed to travel together!" Outpost Gallifrey has learned that one of these newly confirmed writers will pen two scripts for Davies; another unnamed participant decided to withdraw at an earlier time (solely due to schedule complications). All are said to be working off of "very basic" ideas - rather than full outlines, as has been reported elsewhere - from Davies, who will generate the major framework of the first series and is leaving the actual details to these experienced TV writers. Filming on the new series begins "in the spring."

Its now just a matter of sitting back till 2005 and then us Brits will show you Americans how sci-fi is done. Move over Star Trek, sand back Star Wars, take a break Stargate and kiss my ass Battlestar Galactica.

Doctor Who is coming back and will rule all.

[Big Gay Fag]

Oh man, I loved this show. I don't recall the names of all the doctors, but I liked William Hartnell, John Pertwee, and Colin Baker the best.

[Zarius]

GREATEST....SERIES....EVER!

Finally, a new Doctor, I recently downloaded "The Second Coming", the show is in safe hands with Russel T. Davis

[Mark Humphries]

Just thought I would give up an update on the sate of things for those of you who are interested:

Actress Billie Piper will be playing Rose Tyler, the new Doctor Who companion in the forthcoming Doctor Who TV series.

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Filming starts sometime this month and will include London locations even though the series is being made at BBC Wales.

There will be a run of 13 episodes 50 minutes each, there will be three two part story’s and seven single episode story’s.

Each episode will have a budget of about £1 million, the biggest amount the BBC has spent on any drama series.

The first episode is rumoured to air on Christmas day, and the rest will follow at a rate of one episode every Saturday.

Episode titles released so far and the people writing them are:
Episode 1: Rose, Written by Russell T Davies
Episode 2: The End of the World, Written by Russell T Davies
Episode 3 Written by Mark Gatiss
Episode 4: Aliens of London, Part One Written by Russell T Davies
Episode 5: Aliens of London, Part Two Written by Russell T Davies
Episode 6 Written by Robert Shearman
Episode 7 Written by Russell T Davies
Episode 8 Written by Paul Cornell
Episode 9 Written by Steven Moffat
Episode 10 Written by Steven Moffat
Episode 11 Written by Russell T Davies
Episode 12: The Parting of the Ways, Part One Written by Russell T Davies
Episode 13: The Parting of the Ways, Part Two Written by Russell T Davies

Phil Collinson, formerly a producer on "Born and Bred," "Linda Green" and the paranorma drama "Sea of Souls" currently airing on BBC1, is the new producer.

The casting director on the new Doctor Who series is Andy Pryor, whose casting credits include "Long Time Dead," "Beautiful Thing," "Trainspotting TV: The Long Firm," "Cutting It," "Linda Green" and "In a Land of Plenty," among others.

The interview that DWM conducted with producer Russell T Davies quoted him as saying, "I asked JK Rowling if she would like to write an episode for the new series. But she told me she was amused by the suggestion but simply doesn't have the time... I wanted her to write just one episode, but unfortunately she had to turn it down. She told me she was absolutely charmed to have been asked but was so busy at the moment she just couldn't accept. It was slightly disappointing to say the least."

The rights issues between the BBC and the estate of Terry Nation, which owns the Daleks, has been sorted. Doctor Who's most memorable foes are to return to the BBC in a deal worth £250,000, the BBC jointly owns the rights to the Daleks with Nation, who died in 1997, but it still needed permission to feature them in the new show.

According to an interview with producer Phil Collinson in the latest "TV Zone," the production manager on the new series will be Helen Vallis. Among Vallis' credits are as associate producer on "Hearts of Gold," "Care," "Harpur and Iles" and "Streetlife".

According to the Industry Casting Newsletter PCR, the first director for the new series is Keith Boak, who's described as being "the helmer of the first block."

DOCTOR Who is going to face an enemy even worse than the Daleks - in the shape of David Beckham. In the new series, aliens intent on conquering the earth use the waxworks at Madame Tussauds to terrorise the capital. A lifelike dummy of the 29-year-old England captain will lead a horde of modelled celebs in a raid on Downing Street. These could include Brad Pitt, Julia Roberts, Harrison Ford and even Madonna. Becks, the leader of the sinister celebrity army, will blast everything in his path with a ray gun hidden in his left wrist. The waxworks, who appear in an episode called Aliens of London, are under the control of a deadly extra-terrestrial race known as the Autons. They have no physical form but attack humans by manipulating anything made of wax or plastic. A BBC insider revealed: "They plan to replace leaders like Tony Blair and George Bush with lookalikes from Tussauds but it fails so they bring a host of celebrities alive to attack Parliament." The Autons were twice thwarted in the early 70s. This time ninth Doctor Christopher Eccleston will tackle Beckham's replica in one of the first episodes of next year's 13-part series. He will also face updated Daleks.

New series production designer Edward Thomas. "As Production Designer," Thomas tells DWM, "I will be responsible for the overall look and feel of all 13 episodes... I will have lots of help in the form of art directors, illustrators, set designers, CGI and a whole host of other creative people who will assist me in introducing a brand new look, whilst retainging a few of the most unforgettable features." He also talks about what the TARDIS will be like ("Big ... On the inside that is!") and about the interior of the time ship.

Award-winning comics artist Bryan Hitch, the man behind titles such as The Authority and The Ultimates and winner of last year’s SFX Reader Award for Best Comic Book, is the concept artist for the new series. Says Russell T Davies, "This is entirely thanks to SFX. The Head of Drama at the BBC had talked about getting a concept artist right from the start, so we were already beginning to think about it. Then out of the blue Nick Setchfield at SFX got in touch, saying that Bryan Hitch had heard about the new series of Doctor Who and wanted to help. Now, I’m an old comics fan... and I couldn’t believe this was the Bryan Hitch. I’ve got the Ultimates collection, and that beautiful hardback of The Authority. It’s just brilliant... I showed Julie and Phil [producers Julie Gardner and Phil Collinson] the comics, they went mental, we summoned the Hitch, and here we are... Now Bryan can give us concepts and wild ideas to spark us off in new directions. Thank you SFX, it’s really appreciated!” Hitch will be in charge of the signature look of the new series, working alongside production designer Edward Thomas; the two will develop the TARDIS interior, new aliens and technology for the series. Hitch's previous Doctor Who work was a one-issue comic strip in DWM 139 and the cover for Mad Norwegian's "I, Who 2". More details are in the new SFX, due out June 9.

The Sun on May 31 featured an article which says that the metal band Slipknot may be remaking the theme tune... although, it looks like just a quest for publicity for the band. Yet the article says that the "BBC are interested in getting them involved. ... It turns out the nine-strong nu-metal band are obsessed with the time travelling doctor." Says drummer Joey Jordison, "I'm so excited Doctor Who's coming back. It's a great show, wild and exciting. I watched it as a kid and it freaked me out. I'm 29 now and it was only a couple of years ago that I figured out what was going on." The article mentions that "Slipknot are such Doctor Who anoraks they have even dedicated Prelude, a track on new album Volume3 (The Subliminal Verses), to the show." The article was picked up by several syndicates such as World Entertainment News and Ananova.

[Zarius]

Holy Shit, The Doctor against Beckham?

Definatly looking forward to the new series, Piper has become a very accomplished actress and I'm sure she'll play Rose well

[Seanny One Ball]

The only cool thing about this is that the new Dr Who is a pretty well known and very good actor.

He starred in some programme about a dude who's parents were both mentally handicapped, it was pretty intense.

[everville23]

This FUCKING RULES!

Dr. Who is what got me into the whole Sci-Fi genre period.

I hope they show it on BBC America here.

[The Shape]

SHIT, i would have preferred Richard E. Grant

[Stigger]

It's worrying that they felt the need to replace Paul McGann after just one outing as the doctor. I don't know if he wasn't prepared to sign up for the role or not but the doctor is running short on lives now. I'd like them to ignore the fact there's been a change in actor and act as if it's the same regeneration. The character McGann played the doctor with was very likable.

[Brock Landers]

He starred in some programme about a dude who's parents were both mentally handicapped, it was pretty intense.

Yeah I remember watching that, he was excellent in it. He was also very good in Cracker as Billborough, the copper who is murdered by Robert Carlyle
:yes:

[Mark Humphries]

Here with some updates some good some bad, but first...

The Shape:

SHIT, i would have preferred Richard E. Grant

Go here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/doctorwho/shalka/

You need flash and it runs for 90 minutes.

Stigger

It's worrying that they felt the need to replace Paul McGann after just one outing as the doctor.

Well this is a new production team and as good as MaGann was the TV movie was a ratings flop in the US only getting 5.0 for a fox movie of the week, not the best thing if your trying to launch a new series. If you need more MaGann then go here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/doctorwho/shada/

You need flash and it runs for 2 hours.

Ok on to the new series news:

As has been widely reported the past several days, the fan favorite the Daleks will not be appearing in the new Doctor Who series, as talks between the BBC and the estate of creator Terry Nation have broken down over issues of editorial control. A BBC spokeswoman told BBC News, "After lengthy negotiations, the BBC and Terry Nation have been unable to reach an agreement on the terms of the use of the Daleks. The BBC offered the very best deal possible but ultimately we were not able to give the level of editorial influence that the Terry Nation estate wished to have." The Nation estate is said to be "bitterly disappointed" while Nation agent Tim Hancock stated that the BBC was trying to "ruin the brand of the Daleks. We wanted the same level of control over the Daleks that we have enjoyed for the last 40 years. If the BBC wanted to re-make any of George Lucas' films, you can bet George Lucas would have something to say about it." Hancock accused the BBC of lying about the reasons a deal had not been made, stating that the BBC had recentrly tried to commission a cartoon series about gay Daleks for BBC Three and that they had allowed Warner Bros. to use the Daleks in the recent big-budget film "Looney Tunes: Back in Action" without consulting the Nation estate. "We want to protect the integrity of the brand," Hancock said, and added that the estate would be willing to make a new deal if the BBC accepted the arrangement that had been in place for the last 40 years. Russell Davies told BBC news that he was disappointed by the decision, but that it would not affect the success of the series. "We are reinventing Doctor Who for a 21st Century audience with a fantastic writing team and exciting new challenges," Davies said. "We are disappointed that the Daleks will not be included but we have a number of new and exciting monsters. And I can confirm we have created a new enemy for the Doctor which will keep viewers on the edge of their seats." Elsewhere, an additional comment from agent Tim Hancock noted the following: "I’m very sorry for Dr Who fans. We accept the Daleks need modernising, and are all for it. All we ask is that they consult us on the designs. But the BBC are not prepared to."

An article in the June 29 Daily Star says that the new Doctor Who series "will feature historic figures including Shakespeare, Henry VIII and Einstein - who are locked up together inside a Big Brother-style house. Famous housemates will face eviction and death from aliens when the classic sci-fi show comes back to our screens next year. The new series, which stars Christopher Eccleston as Dr Who, is aiming to win over a whole new generation of young followers of the Tardis timelord. Christopher said: 'We can parallel things with science fiction and address what's going on around us to a certain extent for young people without being pompous.' In one of the planned episodes of the hotly-awaited series, some of the world's most famous figures from the past are kidnapped from their time zones by aliens. They are put in a Big Bruvstyle house for extraterrestrial television entertainment."

According to the most recent issue of Doctor Who Magazine, the director of the first "block" of the new series is Keith Boak, who has directed for Out of the Blue, Wokenwell, City Central, Sunburn, Harbour Lights, The Knock, Mersey Beat, The Royal and Holby City.

CGI effects house The Mill are involved in the effects for the new Doctor Who series, according to a forthcoming article in issue #120 of "Dreamwatch" Magazine: http://www.mill.co.uk/

Production of the first episode of the new Doctor Who series will begin this Sunday, July 18, or Monday, July 19. Meanwhile, an ITV teletext report today states the following: "Cameras will start to roll on the new Dr Who series on Monday, an insider has confirmed. Filming on the 13-part series takes place in and around Cardiff and production staff have been sworn to secrecy. They have not been allowed to divulge details of plots, characters or even who is writing the music. The first batch of episodes is to be directed by Keith Boak." Whether Sunday or Monday, within the next few days, the next era of Doctor Who will be under way...

NewsWales ran an article yesterday called "Dr Who causes traffic chaos" about the new series starting production. "Cardiff commuters will have to make way for Dr Who next week as the BBC uses the city’s streets for the filming of the new series. Working Street and St John Street will be closed from 6pm on Tuesday July 20 until 5am on Wednesday July 21 to make way for BBC crews and filming – but allowances will be made for pedestrians coming from the St David’s Hall concerts. St Mary Street, High Street and Guildhall Place will also be closed from 11pm on Wednesday July 21 until 5am on Thursday July 22. BBC Wales is producing the television comeback of Dr Who. The new series, written by Swansea-born dramatist Russell T. Davies, will star Christopher Eccleston as Dr Who and Billie Piper as his companion. The 13-episode series is to be shown on the BBC early next year."

Also... the Western Mail newspaper is running a similar article that has roughly the same information, stating " A different time zone wil descend on streets in Cardiff as film crews close roads for the filming of the new Doctor Who series." A number of retailers in the area have been advised that filming will commence this coming week, most of which will take place in the early evenings.

And here are some pictures and a few set reports from filming last night:

From David James:

Just got back from a day out in Cardiff!

And here's what I learned... After looking at the streets listed as this week's locations on the news page, I popped in to the Cardiff Visitor Centre, in Working Street.

I figured there was no harm in asking whether or not they could confirm that Doctor Who was going to be filmed outside their premises and, sure enough, not only are the crew using the street, they're using the visitor centre itself as a location, together with the pub next door (Toad @ the Exhibition).

The two premises are part of the same building - the old city library - and are being used as a police station. I went into the Toad for lunch (not bad and reasonably priced!) and got chatting to the girls behind the bar. They're getting ready to let the Doctor Who crew use half the pub on Tuesday night from 7pm (the rest will be open to the public) and are quite excited about the prospect.

From there I walked out to the old Cardiff Royal Infirmary, which is a wonderfully ramshackle example of gothic decay - a great location! In the area at the front of the building was a group of about eight or ten extras, dressed as soldiers - camouflage gear, red berets and heavy rifles - together with one man dressed in a smart military uniform, with a cap (from the military police vehicle I spotted later, I would guess they might be 'Redcaps' but I didn't recognise the insignia on the berets, which was sort-of T-shaped metal badge - perhaps a figure with arms outstretched?)

There were various film crew types wandering about and an awful lot of lighting/equipment vans and other lorries. Circling the site, there were lots of temporary 'BBC Wales' signs and I asked one of the chaps what was going on (I'm sure my pretence of 'not being all that interested' didn't fool him for a moment!) and he said: "It's the first day of filming on the new series of Doctor Who."

Back round at the front of the building, some set dressing was going on at the hospital gates - a big 'metal' arch, painted black, with 'ALBION HOSPITAL' in gold letters, which were being dirtied down. From the safety of the other side of the road I watched for a while (I was desperate not to run the slightest risk of getting in the way or annoying anyone and it's a very public place, so what the hey?) then went off to the cinema for a couple of hours.

When the film was over I couldn't resist popping back for another look! By this time (around 4pm) there were a handful of police vehicles (basic markings - stripes and lettering, blank insignia - so not a specific force, apart from one that had 'MILITARY POLICE' on its bonnet. Maybe extra decals will be added later?) and the armoured car. Round the back of the infirmary were four extras, dressed as police wearing tactical gear (black combat stuff).

And that's about it - like I said, not Earth-shattering but it was nice to be there and know for sure that it's really happening! I took a load of pics and will post some when I've had the film developed (unless someone with a digital camera beats me to the punch!)

Just back from a little wander in the vicinity of the CRI (again) where filming is/was in full swing. Confirming much of what has always reported but here's a bit more...

From Ben Copper:

I managed to position myself surreptitiously near the main gates to the Hospital (renamed Albion Hospital) where a scene with a reporter was being rehearsed/filmed. I saw the material being played back on DV Playback equipment (thus ending the film/DV argument, I guess) and it consisted of the reporter uttering dialogue indicating that "Nobody is confirming if the body is alive or dead. Whitehall are saying nothing. The body has been brought here to Albion hospital, the nearest hospital to the river. The roads are closed, the hospital has been evacuated." There was some reference to a General Asquith, the body being human or alien and then the roads were closed again as a scene of a Military police car and an ambulance driving through the the gates was recorded. The general area was 'decorated' with London-style bus stops, one of which, I noticed as I walked right past it, was bearing a London street map the familiar red circule-style London underground symbol.

The area was literally packed with people -technicians, production crew etc, presumably Keith Boak directing from the concoruse area inside the gates. There were loads of black-clad police officers brandishing machine guns, the tank had been moved nearer the gates and there were quite a few other vehicles and extras in military uniform. I caught a quick glimpse of the script in the hands of one technician and while I couldn't get close enough to have a good look I could clearly see dialogue and reference to one character speaking - Jackie.


From Matt Chambers:

was in Cardiff last night and saw some filming taking place at the CRI. I saw one scene shot in which a reporter was saying something like; "there have been sightings of more ships, what do they want? If anyone has any information please phone this number" Not very exciting I'm afraid but it's a start.

Thats all for now every one, 2005 here we come.

[Mark Humphries]

All photos take at filming location - Cardiff Royal Infirmary.

There's precious little to see, as the site is well enclosed. Some of these
shots gives a sense of the location, while others do show very
limited details of crew and equipment. There are a few shots of an armoured
personnel carrier that was on location on Sunday afternoon 18/04, and a
couple of very mundane pictures of equipment lorries in situ,

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[Mark Humphries]

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Thats all for now.

[Mark Humphries]

I have some on set photos that I will post latter tonight, but heres some press cuttings I have been collecting.

And yes this is the Nth Doctors outfit:

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[Mark Humphries]

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[Mark Humphries]

Chris and Billie on set London:

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Is it Cardiff or London?

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Autons are back in town:

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Goodness me the Tardis:

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[Mark Humphries]

Attack of the Burning Couch!

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Back in London:

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London At night:
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[Wiganer]

yeah the daleks are back

:wiggle::wiggle::wiggle::wiggle::wiggle::wiggle:

[Mark Humphries]

Meanwhile at a councel estate in London:
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Thats all for now people.

[Mark Humphries]

Oh one more thing, the daleks are back in:

From: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3535588.stm

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Doctor Who's arch enemies the Daleks are coming back to the series after a lengthy dispute between the BBC and the creator's estate was finally settled.

The estate of sci-fi writer Terry Nation had originally blocked their return to the classic BBC One show.

But the BBC said an agreement had been reached ensuring that the Daleks - voted the most evil Doctor Who villains of all time - would be back.

Doctor Who returns to TV in 2005 with Christopher Eccleston in the lead role.

"I am absolutely delighted that the Terry Nation estate and the BBC have been able to reach agreement on terms for the use of the Daleks in the new Doctor Who series," said Tim Hancock, agent for the Terry Nation estate.

"We look forward to working closely with the production team in the forthcoming months."

[Mark Humphries]

If any one is still interested here are a few shots plus the first promo poster for the series with the new logo:

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Some of the new monsters in the new series:

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Some random photos from filming:

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Copy and past the links into your address bar and they will work.

[Mark Humphries]

Yes the theme music will still be the same.

[Alf]

Will it have the kick arse theme tune?

WoooOOOOooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOaoOooooooo

[Sweet Stan]

It`s going to be the original theme tune but they`re going to modernise it make it surround sound or something.

[Sweet Stan]

The BBC have just put out a teaser for it , doesn`t give much away though....


http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/news/drwho/2004/12/02/15823.shtml

[Mark Humphries]

Some pictures from the BBC site:

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A few big names have been announced that will appear in the new series:

Simon Callow (Three Weddings, Ace Ventura 2, Shakespeare in Love)
Zoe Wanamaker (My Family, Harry Potter)
Simon Pegg (Spaced, Shaun of the Dead, Big Train)
Richard Wilson (One Foot in the Grave, Duck Patrol)
Mark Gatiss (League of Gentlemen)
David Walling (Little Briton, Rock Profile)
Ricky Gervase [spelling?](The Office)

There will apparently be lots of surprises through out the series.

[Zarius]

While there is still no official confirmation from the BBC (and we stress that there's still plenty of time for this to change!), we've received enough information from various sources to safely conclude that the new series will indeed premiere on BBC1 on Saturday, March 26, 2005

[Mark Humphries]

Also from the leaked Memo:

TV marketing have confirmed that the series will definitely get outdoor posters. These will go live from either the 5th or 12th March

There will be two different TV teaser trails for the series - one focussing on the Doctor, one on Rose - these will air from 5th March

There will also be radio trails for the series that will begin 1 week before tx and continue until Episode 2

A press launch is taking place on 8th March in Cardiff with plans for Chris Moyles to broadcast his Radio 1 show from the Dr Who set that day

Other radio interviews with Chris and Billie are secured with; Steve Wright, Sara Cox and Jonathan Ross

Christopher Eccleston is also confirmed to do Desert Island Discs

Radio Times will be publishing an 18-page supplement to celebrate the return of the series

Arena will be publishing a photo shoot with Billie

Sunday Times Culture have confirmed a photo shoot with both Billie and Chris

Dr Who website will be going live with 'New Dr' content from 8th March, launching with a 'Space Monopoly' game and following up with a Daleks game to be added later in the run of the series

International sales of the TV series have now been confirmed to; New Zealand, Canada and Australia with the announcement of some European sales expected at Showcase later this month

Licensing have confirmed that they have issued licences for; radio-controlled daleks, talking Dr Who mugs, sonic screwdrivers and Dr Who clocks that will hit the shops this Autumn

The Sci-Fi Channel is rumoured to have bought the series.

With Trek over and dead it looks like BG and Dr Who are set to take its place.

[Mark Humphries]

Hello

Frist trailer for CBC showing of the show is online HERE (http://www.gmaskew.com/art/cbcteaser_high.avi) Its 7mb and you can download a leaked copy of the first epsiode in a Bittorent 349.77mb file HERE (http://www.btefnet.net/gettorrent/Dr.Who.S27E01.Rose.DVDScr.%5BBT%5D.torrent) should take about 4-5 hours to download. Its not the finished episode though, just a ruff edit they used to sell the show to other countries and the main theme music is not the new one, this is HERE (http://www.keme.net/~daj2001/oldThemeFollowedByNew.mp3) it starts off with the old theme before the new one starts.

[Zarius]

Sci-Fi U.S.A refused to pick the new series up because it's "too english"

Congratulations to Russel T. Davies for sticking it to the pompus yanks who wanted to get a replacment for Farscape, Doctor Who should never be changed from what it is, bring on the cheap effects and video filmed episodes...they don't matter in the long run, it's the story that counts.

Doctor Who is coming back the way it ended.

[Wiganer]

Doctor Who is back on Easter Saturday, the first new series in 16 years, and I for one am excited. I love Dr. Who, I think Christopher Ecclestion is a great actor to so should make a good Doctor.

Who was your favourite Doctor?

William Hartnall 1963-1966

The first Doctor, not many of his episodes remain but the ones that do are fantastic.

Patrick Troughton 1966-1969

I am sorry to say I have never seen any of Patricks episodes, the only ones I have seen involving him are the 3 and the 5 doctors in later series.

Jon Pertwee 1970-1974

The budgets where apparently cut for the 3rd doctor, and you can tell from the quality of some of the sets, and the fact that most of the episodes took place on earth. Some exciting and interesting stories, and some great co-stars like Brigader Lethbridge-Stewart make up for that. Jon is probably my 2nd favourite Doctor.

Tom Baker 1974-1981

The most commercially succesfull doctor, with upwards of 20 million viewers at one point. I do like Tom Baker as the doctor, he has those wierd eyes and wild man persona that so befits the charecter.

Peter Davison 1982-1984

I thought Peter Davison made a good doctor, he was the architypical English gentleman, this stage in history though meant he was only given two series to get to grips with the charecter.

Colin Baker 1984-1986

The shortest serving of the doctors (excluding films/one offs) I thought Colin baker was a really bad actor, his attempt to show the doctors madness due to a bad regeneration was just really hammy. A low point for Doctor Who fans. :nono:

Sylvester McCoy 1986-1989

My personal favourite Doctor, he also had the best assistant ever (Ace). He was also given back an air of mystery, being linked with the historic figure or Merlin in Battlefield, and the Curse of Fenric is Genuinly scarey.

[Zarius]

Already got a thread...sort of...for this.

A mod might want to merge this one with that one.

I watched the leaked episode...exactly the way the series was before it was axed, shot on video, cheap effects, but good story.

[Wiganer]

Already got a thread...sort of...for this.

A mod might want to merge this one with that one.

I watched the leaked episode...exactly the way the series was before it was axed, shot on video, cheap effects, but good story.

I did a search but it told me "Dr" and "Who" are too small to search for :happysad:

[MTR]

I did a search but it told me "Dr" and "Who" are too small to search for :happysad:

Its on the front page. :grumpy:

[Alcohol]

.

[MTR]

And I am too lazy to merge or close. :irked:

[Alcohol]

.

[Alf]

I'll do it... make me a mod miller.

[Alcohol]

.

[MTR]

That and I would have to remember how. :)

Anyway give me a sec and I will merge this stuff.

[Mark Humphries]

Epsiode one can now be download HERE (http://www.btefnet.net/gettorrent/Dr.Who.S27E01.Rose.DVDScr.%5BBT%5D.torrent) as the old link is down.

[Stigger]

The BBC website has added a count down to air date of the first episode, 7pm Saturday 26th March.

[Mark Humphries]

Well today is the day at 7pm BBC1 the best longest running Sci-fi TV show in the world returns and after all the publicity but the boot right up Ant & Dec.

Saw a clip montage on ‘Friday Night with Jonathan Ross’ last night and I was just blown away, this series is just going to rule some pic’s bellow.


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[Mark Humphries]

Its Simon Pegg
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[Mark Humphries]

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[Zarius]

I just saw the full version, The Doctor is back, that was by leaps and bounds, FAR superior to any shit I've seen since Galactica's revival.

Star Trek is fucking dead and buried, The Doctor is back, NOW RUN FOR YOUR LIFE

[Raw Is Jonathan]

:yes:

I liked it.

*RUNS FOR HIS LIFE*

[Flash!]

I was suprised at that episode. Totally British and superb!

[Raw Is Jonathan]

"Thanks for what?"

"Exactly."

Totally love the way they didn't kill the black dude off first, but still made him look silly. That's quality racism that is.

:yes:

;)

[Sean]

I liked it too.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Sean, that IS good to know.

It is.

[Guy]

What in the hell was that :eek:

It was like it didn't know if it wanted to be updated and serious or homagy and campy. I was cringing for the actors just watching the thing.

Although the dummy rampaging attacks in the street were pretty cool

But still....the only reason I'm going to watch this is so I can see Pegg's small role

[Zarius]

What in the hell was that :eek:

It was Doctor Who, which has ALWAYS balanced serious with those kind of traits (until they overdid it with Colin Baker and the early Mcoy years)

[Nicky]

Brilliant.. Used to watch it as a child, but don't remember a great deal apart from that I used to love it.

I was quite impressed with todays.

[Sean]

Bring on the daleks!

[Curly Toe]

First episode of Dr Who I have ever watched.

Thought it was quite good.

[Stigger]

I'd already watched it a few weeks ago, via the good old internet, but watched it tonight with a group of friends who not seen it and they all loved it. I thought it was slightly rushed, story wise, can't help thinking that back in the day that they'd have done it over 3 or 4 episodes, but who am i to argue. Still good to have the Doctor back and Billie Piper has done a fine job as Rose. Keep up the good work!

[Mark Humphries]

News in WHO gets 10.6 million viewers, Ant and Dec gets about 7.1 million.

Weather 10.6 million come back the next week remains to be seen, the fact WHO just beat the so-called unbeatable Ant and Dec is a cause for celebration.

And the statement from ITV man says 'Its unfair to compare the two' :rolleyes: me thinks they are trying to make excuses… forgive me for being smug people.


What in the hell was that :eek:

It was like it didn't know if it wanted to be updated and serious or homagy and campy. I was cringing for the actors just watching the thing.

But still....the only reason I'm going to watch this is so I can see Pegg's small role

I will admit it was not perfect, but it’s the first episode it needs to find its feet there was a lot of stuff to get across. Next weeks is going to be very ‘Hitchhikers’ and the week after is more of a ghost horror set in 1883 written by ‘League of Gentlemen’s’ Mark Gaitss.

And Peggs in episode 7 called ‘The Long Game’ and he’s the main villain

[Curly Toe]

The BBC have confirmed that Christopher Eccleston has quit as Doctor Who over fears of being typecast.

I quite liked him although I read that some others didn't.

Here's a link as it's quite a long article.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/4395849.stm

[Zarius]

Fuck you Eccelston.

FUCK...YOU.

I'm glad the series is pretty much secure for a second season, but CHRIST...the Tenth Doctor, he's only got about three lives left now, and all because some dolt is afraid of being type-cast.

Do you think Tom Baker gave a shit about being type-cast? He stayed loyal for seven years, thanks for spitting on everybody who worked thier asses off bringing the greatest series ever back on screen

[Mark Humphries]

What a twat, next time get some one who will commit to a series.

This is going to hurt the series, the hardcore fans will still watch but the rest will probably think what’s the point in watching a program where the lead actor will bugger off in 12 weeks.

And why make the announcement after one fucking episode.

[Wiganer]

So he gives them time to find a new one.

[Curly Toe]

I never watched Doctor Who before Saturday.

How does the new Doctor appear when they change?

[Zarius]

I never watched Doctor Who before Saturday.

How does the new Doctor appear when they change?

They regenerate, The Doctor is a time lord, Time Lords have thirteen lives, and twleve regenerations, thier bodies change when there at the point of death, it changes thier apperance, and thier personalities, but it saves thier lives.

[Mark Humphries]

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Russ: "So Chris, have you decided which one of my projects you want to work on?"

Chris: "Yeah. I wanna be Doctor Who."

R: "But Chris, I thought you said Doctor Who was a kid's show?"

C: "Yeah, I know. I wanna be Doctor Who."

R: "Didn't you say you would never do it because the press intrusion would turn your life into a pale shadow of the rich and full existence you currently enjoy as an actor?"

C: "Yeah I know, I wanna be Doctor Who."

R: "Chris, just yesterday you told me you thought whoever took the role would be horribly typecast and you felt sorry for whatever two bit variety act that took it."

C: "Yeah I know."

R: "Ok, just sign here and you can be Doctor Who."

*Chris signs without looking and Russ walks off to start the production*

C: " I don't wanna do it."

[Locdog07]

Tee-hee.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

HEHE.

That blue thing is the greatest.

"Who killed him?"

[Raw Is Jonathan]

"ARREST HER!

INFIDEL!"

:lol:

GREATNESS.

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[Wiganer]

So what happend to the time lords ? :confused:

[Stigger]

Tonight's was a bit of a strange episode, alot darker than the old series, people dying, burning to death especially.

The whole bit about him being the last of the time lords is interesting stuff, but I can't help but think that all the other time lords do exist, just in the past, and therefore can he not go back in time and bring them forward to help populate Galifrey today?

[Wiganer]

Galifrey is gone.

[Zarius]

Galifrey is gone.

Yeah, The Doctor destroyed it in the Eighth Doctor novel "The Ancestor Cell", thier entire history is wiped out as well, the TARDIS sheilded The Doctor from the effects of the destruction (and more likly, The Master, as he's still trapped in the Eye of Harmony)

WHY THE HELL DID THEY KILL CASSANDRA? The Last Human could have made a new, original, and hilarious adversary.

Bring back the bitchy trampoline :D

[Stigger]

So are the novels meant to be integrated with the story we see on tv, I always thought they were just an aside. Anything else noteworthy happen in the novels which we haven't seen?

[Zarius]

So are the novels meant to be integrated with the story we see on tv, I always thought they were just an aside. Anything else noteworthy happen in the novels which we haven't seen?

Well...if you want to get into some serious shit, read "Interference Books One and Two", the beggining of the war with Faction Paradox that kills off the Third Doctor before he was supposed to regenerate on Metribelis III in "Planet of the Spiders", screwing up a great deal of The Doctor's history

The novels are mostly self-contained, but notible events such as the war that obliterates Gallifrey and Davros' demise in "War of the Daleks" pretty much give the new series some great meterial to work with, and in the case of Davors, it finally gives The Daleks credibility again

[J.C]

The episode last night was alot better then the first one.

I wonder what the ratings were compared to the first night. I expect them to go down slightly but not alot.

[Mark Humphries]

The episode last night was alot better then the first one.

I wonder what the ratings were compared to the first night. I expect them to go down slightly but not alot.

Doctor Who got 7.8 million 37% share

Ant and Dec got 6.1 million 31% share

I think both shows were affected by the fact it was still a very nice day out side when they were on and a lot of people probably taped one or the other.

With a technician strike next week for ITV it may boost the ratings up even more, as Ant and Dec may not be on. Here’s hoping it’s a rainy day :)

Here's a link to Clive's(RIP) website (http://www.whoisdoctorwho.co.uk/) from episode 1 by the way.

[aenima]

Watched it this afternoon. It was only meh.

Although Jonnifer is right, the wee blue bloke was absolutely fantastic.

[Zarius]

Watched it this afternoon. It was only meh.


You officially suck.

[Inter Minan]

I like Billie Piper.

[Alf]

I thought it rocked. I really fancy Billie... she has a bit of puppy fat. Yum!

[Inter Minan]

:yes: Bit spotty, but i'd pay at least £37.85 to fuck her.

[Alf]

Do i hear £40?

[Raw Is Jonathan]

The wee blue bloke should come back and scream things like,

"I WILL KEEEEEEL YOU!"

and

"May I have a touch?"

[Mark Humphries]

The wee blue bloke should come back and scream things like,

"I WILL KEEEEEEL YOU!"

and

"May I have a touch?"

Its a bit sad that all the best charcters in that epsiode died though is'ent it, and I would give that tree girl Jade one:

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[J.C]

They could come back, if he had to go to the time before they died for some reason, but then wouldn't they have known who he was in the last episode as they would have met him in the past.

Maybe he can't.

[Mark Humphries]

Go to ifilim (http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2667476?htv=12&htv=12&htv=12) and they have a 2 minute series trailer that inlcudes Simon Pegg.

[Zarius]

Great episode as usual...looks like the war with Faction Paradox is pretty much legit in continunity now, as it spreads across time as well as space (the Elemental world was destroyed in the war, much like The Nestene world was)

Rose seems to be talking to a great deal of females from various eras, and she actually could'nt grasp the possibility of dying before she was born.

The line about cardiff...pricless

One major annoying trait: Charles Dicken spends most of the episode dismissing most of what he's seen, and then saves the day...almost immediatly after running out of the celler into the city...talk about rushed endings, it's times like this I miss the multi-part storylines

...Which by the way begin next week with a two-part episode.

[Wiganer]

Great episode as usual...looks like the war with Faction Paradox is pretty much legit in continunity now, as it spreads across time as well as space (the Elemental world was destryoed in the war, much like The Nestene world was)

Rose seems to be talking to a great deal of females from various eras, and she actually could'nt grasp the possibility of dying before she was born.

The line about cardiff...pricless

First off, :heart: the avatar.

Also could someone explaing whta the faction paradox is?

[J.C]

Enjoyed it, forgot it was on until Dec mentioned Dr Who and then i turned over.

Better then the last one which is a good pattern if the can keep it up. Again i will be interested to see the ratings.

[Zarius]

First off, :heart: the avatar.

Also could someone explaing whta the faction paradox is?

They were at war with the Time Lords in the novels, and caused sufficent damage to various periods of history (The Third Doctor officially no longer regenerates on Metribilis III etc), in order to stop them, The Doctor destroyed Gallifrey.

[Mark Humphries]

I don’t think FP will be involved in the new series; it’s a bit silly to continue a story line from a book series that over 8 million of the people-watching wont have read, including me.

I recon it’s the new big enemy, probably this ‘Bad Wolf’ reference that keeps popping up in the show.

Oh and the ratings for this week:

Dr Who: 8.4 million
Ant and Dec: 7.1 million

We kicked ass for the third week in a role.

[Guy]

This show has the worst scripting and acting ever.

The storylines would be ok if there was any logic involved at all, or if The Dr didn't just guess everything in the opening 3 seconds even though he has no shred of proof.

[Mark Humphries]

This show has the worst scripting and acting ever.

And after 3 epsiodes why are you still watching?

What ever… its successful, entertaining and the best TV show around at the moment. Trek, Buffy, Angle and X-files are all dead now and Who is once again on top and it does not matter how much you bitch Blood nothing is going to stop this so get used to it.

[J.C]

You have to agree with Blood in a way, yes it doesn't have the greates scripts and there acting can be a bit off. But then it must be pretty hard to write and act out reactions to the things they see.

I thought after the 1st one it should be on CBBC but i am startling to like them more and more.

[Zarius]

This show has the worst scripting and acting ever.


Idiot.



You have to agree with Blood in a way, yes it doesn't have the greates scripts.

Bullshit.

"The Unquiet Dead" was written by Mark Gatis, one of the people behind The Leauge of Genetlmen, one of the most intensely disturbing, strange, and entertaining shows we've had in years, the episodes so far outside of "Rose" (which itself is excellent if you ignore the comedic aspects) have surpassed a great deal of shows seen recently on American telivision, as Doctor Who often does.

Would it actually bother any of you to EXPLAIN why you hate the episodes and why they are allegedy "bad" rather than post "Blah blah it sucks" to get attention?

I don't agree with Blood, I don't agree with you. If you honestly think this is childish, when you watch a sport with half naked men wrestling each other with crappy tales of U.S belts being destroyed in thrash cans substituting for "angles", what the hell do you know?

[J.C]

What do i know? I watch it so i can have a opinion.

Of course it is childish, it is a fantasy, there is no way it can be true, it is made up stories about Magic, Monsters etc. I didn't say i thought it was crap, i like it for what it is. The audience it is going for is the whole family so it can't be as dark and gory as other shows and it is doing good for what it is doing.

After the first one i wasn't that impressed but as i have said in previous posts i like it more and more each episode.

[Guy]

And after 3 epsiodes why are you still watching?

What ever… its successful, entertaining and the best TV show around at the moment. Trek, Buffy, Angle and X-files are all dead now and Who is once again on top and it does not matter how much you bitch Blood nothing is going to stop this so get used to it.

I watched the first episode and it made me cringe, I skipped the second and only watched the third as it was written by one of the guys behind the League of Gentlemen and included some sort of living dead. You can't say a programme's good because....it's the only thing on tv nowadays after all the other good programmes have ended.


Idiot.
Mature


Bullshit.

"The Unquiet Dead" was written by Mark Gatis, one of the people behind The Leauge of Genetlmen, one of the most intensely disturbing, strange, and entertaining shows we've had in years, the episodes so far outside of "Rose" (which itself is excellent if you ignore the comedic aspects) have surpassed a great deal of shows seen recently on American telivision, as Doctor Who often does.

And I was surprised how badly it was written! The ideas behind all these episodes are great, fantastic even, some of them show real imagination on behalf of the writers. It's just that the dialogue is shockingly bad. If it was written and acted seriously it'd be a great sci-fi/dramatic programme, but as it is it's just great ideas wasted on a programme that feels like it's written especialy for the kiddies.


I don't agree with Blood, I don't agree with you. If you honestly think this is childish, when you watch a sport with half naked men wrestling each other with crappy tales of U.S belts being destroyed in thrash cans substituting for "angles", what the hell do you know?

I havn't watched wrestling since Iwas old enough to enjoy it, perhaps the same age I should be in order to enjoy Dr Who.

[Mark Humphries]

I watchedit's the only thing on tv nowadays after all the other good programmes have ended.

Well I will own up and say I have only watched the X-files as I consider sci-fi to be dull and repetitive medium but I consider the new series the best thing on TV at the moment.


If it was written and acted seriously it'd be a great sci-fi/dramatic programme, but as it is it's just great ideas wasted on a programme that feels like it's written especialy for the kiddies.

But it is for the kiddies; it’s a family show like it always was, well apart from the 80's when the show was aimed at geeks. The best thing about Dr Who is that there is something for every one.

If you are looking for 100% hardcore serious sci-fi then Dr Who is not for you because it was never that to begin with, even back in 1963 it was played with a smile.


I havn't watched wrestling since Iwas old enough to enjoy it, perhaps the same age I should be in order to enjoy Dr Who.

You just need an imagination, sense of humour and an open mind to watch Dr Who and that’s all.

[Zarius]

But it is for the kiddies; it’s a family show like it always was, well apart from the 80's when the show was aimed at geeks.

Actually, the J.N.T years did more damage to Docotr Who's "all family reputation" considerably, the stories stopped started being REALLY written for children...and not even ten year olds at that, the amount of shit poor Colin Baker received...at least they were trying to imprive it during the Sylvestor Mcoy years (he only had one abysmal season), and you know things are bleak when you can only think of eight good Davision stories.

Sci-Fi is'nt "dull and reptetitive" Doctor Who is part of the same direction that Star Trek takes, it's a family show, but it works in SPITE of the family.

I agree with you though, that if someone is'nt objective enough to know what Doctor Who is and look past it's target audience to see it's intentions...they honestly don't know what there talking about.

[Guy]

Unlike you two I'm not an avid Dr Who fan, I havn't read the books or seen any other shows beside this series. So I'd call myself very un-bias and reasonable in my viewpoints. Unlike things like a certain horror series or two which I know are shite, but will defend them to the death and love like only a fanboy can.

But it's people like J,C I can relate to, people who like a programme and admit it's flaws and don't have to walk around with their heads up their asses, thinking their king shit and dismissing anything bad said about their litle fanboy series.

I gave the ideas credit, hell the directing isn't bad at all either. The Cardiff line last night was great. But how do you not cringe watching the Dr quite obviously pretend to be held by two plastic shop dummies just to fling them over easily afterwards. How does it not annoy you that both Eccleson and Piper are trying to 'out-dialect' each other through their bad acting. I felt sorry for the Dickens guy as he seemed like a decent actor drowning in the show.

It's a shame that Eccleson won't be remembered for a decent role such as that in Second Coming or even Shallow Grave, but for his mediocre acting in Dr Who.

[Zarius]

[color=red]But it's people like J,C I can relate to, people who like a programme and admit it's flaws and don't have to walk around with their heads up their asses, thinking their king shit and dismissing anything bad said about their litle fanboy series.

Better than to hear some ignorant tosser chant B.S on "mediocre acting and bad scripts" and then admit that he's not an avid fan and does'nt know the series rises above it's flaws despite what it's trappings provide with it.


I gave the ideas credit, hell the directing isn't bad at all either. The Cardiff line last night was great. But how do you not cringe watching the Dr quite obviously pretend to be held by two plastic shop dummies just to fling them over easily afterwards. How does it not annoy you that both Eccleson and Piper are trying to 'out-dialect' each other through their bad acting.

WHAT bad acting? Especially from Piper, who had an accomplished and thorugh perfornmance in the Cantumbury Tales, in Eccelston's case, It's deliberate overacting, and in that sense, it's a perfect measure of acting, the logic in trying to see The Doctor NOT overact is flawed.

Of course, Jon Pertwee played it straight, as did Davison, but that was when the series was brodening to James Bond fans with the former, and then later with Davison to a more "serious" measure of the audience when The A-Team began thrashing the series in ratings,


It's a shame that Eccleson won't be remembered for a decent role such as that in Second Coming or even Shallow Grave, but for his mediocre acting

Again....what mediocre acting? You don't understand this series, that's patently obvious, so I don't expect you to ever see through the flaws, come back when you can.

Doctor Who has had it's far share of shit, hell the J.N.T era had it's share of positives, this new series will have a bad episode, if it does, I don't give a shit, I look for the positives, if you're never going to keep yourself objective, don't watch. Period.

[PaulBDangerously]

Of course it is childish, it is a fantasy, there is no way it can be true, it is made up stories about Magic, Monsters etc.

Yes, MacBeth, what a childish story with it's made up stories about witches, magic etc. :rolleyes:

[J.C]

There is no way MacBeth and Dr Who can be compared.

The whole story of Dr Who is a man who can time travel and faces "evil" monsters and dustbins.

Macbeth was about Lies, Cheating, Death, Murder, Suicide. It was not so much about the witches and monsters.

There is no way you can compare them at all.

[Zarius]

Both use fictional elements in thier storylines, and if you had ever fucking bothered watching any other Doctor Who story before the new series (which you CLEARLY hav'nt) some of thier storylines have contained the very same character traits and themes.

So keep it up ignorant one, Doctor Who is far more than you foolishly realise.

[Guy]

Still sucks. Whether the old series did or not, this new one does.

Wasted ideas

[J.C]

I never said i have seen any other series, i have never been bothered to watch one.

This thread is about this series, my quote was about this series not the last one or the one before that or the one before that, THIS SERIES.

I said that after the 1st episode i thought it should have been on CBBC and seemed a bit childish, i also said i have enjoyed it more and more after each one i have seen.

I have no idea why you are bringing up the old series, Blood was talking about the writing and acting of this series not no other series.

It seems to me you are a massive Dr Who fan and won't hear anything bad said against it. So there really is no point in continuing this at all.

[Wiganer]

What Zarius is pointing out is that you are critising a program's characters and actors, having not seen the history of the show. You have not seen the original series, therefore do not understand why Christopher Eccleston is a good Dr. Who.

[J.C]

I never said he was a bad one, i haven't said one he was. All i said is the show appears childish and i can understand that because it is a family show. I don't think that is a bad comment at all and it is very well jusitied.

[Mark Humphries]

Well none of you will like next weeks 2 part episode very much, I’m not to keen on the idea my-self. Aliens who disguise them self’s as the government but give them self’s away by farting quite a lot because of the gas build up in their suits.

Contains the line:

Doctor: Excuse me! But do you mined not farting when I’m trying to save the world!

I think it’s a bad idea to have the first cliff-hanger a comedy run around but I wont pass full judgment until I have seen it.

And the Dalek episode looks like to be set in Utah.

[Zarius]

God bless Gatis

Seriously Davies, stop pandering to children, Doctor Who works in spite of them, you did perfectly fine with "End of the World", stick to that

[Mark Humphries]

Im not certain about the pig in a space suit though:

http://img96.echo.cx/my.php?image=585476pv.jpg

[Mark Humphries]

At least the monsters looks OK'ish:

http://basic1.easily.co.uk/03504B/036003/soapdrama_dw_image18.gif

http://basic1.easily.co.uk/03504B/036003/soapdrama_dw_image17.gif

http://basic1.easily.co.uk/03504B/036003/soapdrama_dw_image19.gif

[Stigger]

There were massive amounts of complaints sent to the BBC last week as people thought it was too scary. Families complained that Children couldn't get to sleep after watching the show, nightmares etc. Strange how some people think it's childish yet others think it was too scary for Children. The beeb responded by saying it's not intended for children under the age of 8 or 9.

[Locdog07]

Dr. Who always terrified me as a kid. Didn't wanna complain about it though... Sheesh.

[Mark Humphries]

The BBC has just (finally) announced that David Tennant will, in fact, be the tenth Doctor Who.

PRESS RELEASE:

David Tennant confirmed as the tenth Doctor Who

David Tennant is confirmed as the tenth Doctor Who, it was announced today by Jane Tranter, BBC Controller of Drama Commissioning, following the recommissioning of the second series.

Tennant, whose recent credits include BBC THREE's critically-acclaimed drama series Casanova, BBC ONE's Blackpool and He Knew He Was Right, will star alongside Billie Piper who returns as Rose Tyler.

Julie Gardner, BBC Head of Drama, Wales says: "Christopher Eccleston has given an exceptional performance as the ninth Doctor.

"David Tennant is a great actor who will build on the excellent work already done by Christopher in establishing Doctor Who for a new generation."

David Tennant says: "I am delighted, excited and honoured to be the tenth Doctor!

"I grew up loving Doctor Who and it has been a lifelong dream to get my very own TARDIS.

"Russell T Davies is one of the best writers television has ever had, and I'm chuffed to bits to get the opportunity to work with him again.

"I'm also really looking forward to working with Billie Piper who is so great as Rose.

"Taking over from Chris is a daunting prospect; he has done a fantastic job of reinventing the Doctor for a new generation and is a very tough act to follow."

Executive producer/writer Russell T Davies adds: "Christopher Eccelston's wonderful Doctor has reinvented the role, so that it now appeals to the best actors in the land.

"I'm already writing David's first new adventure on board the TARDIS!

"Regeneration is a huge part of the programme's mythology, and I'm delighted that new, young viewers can now have the complete Doctor Who experience, as they witness their hero change his face!"

A new 13-part adventure and Christmas special begins filming in Cardiff in the summer for transmission on BBC ONE.

[J.C]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/blackpool/images/100x100/david_tennant.jpg

This is the actor for those who don't know, it should be interesting when they do the regeneration.

[Wiganer]

My guess is the current doctor will die :derr:

[Stigger]

Who'd have thought that when this thread was created, the title would be relevant a year later as another Doctor is announced. Hopefully the Beeb have signed David Tennant to a multi year deal to give a bit of stability to the role. I think he's done well in Casanova.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Dr. Who always terrified me as a kid. Didn't wanna complain about it though... Sheesh.

Same.

The darleks proper shitted me up, the bastards! I mean they can't even climb stairs and they scared me! But dammit, I felt good when I was in bed at night, UPSTAIRS!

[Zarius]

"Aliens of London" was a great episode, the Pig in the Space Suit was made to be a tragic affair (the "Mermaid" effect of making a Pig look alien just to cover up the real strategy from the Silph) , Rose is back in the present time...except she's returned twelve months later.

The Doctor: I was traveling with my companion

Police Officer: Companion? Is that in terms of sexual relations?

The cliifhanger was solid as well

[Wiganer]

Great episode, can't wait for next week :hyper:

[Mark Humphries]

A surprisingly very good episode, I really did expect the worst from this and I’m so happy to be proved wrong.

Not to certain on the cliff-hanger though, to much happening to too many characters that it lost a bit of tension at the end, 8/10.

[J.C]

I really enjoyed this episode and am looking forward to next weeks episode.

I am expecting Ant & Dec to win in the ratings as it was the last show of the series.

[eldanielfire]

From what I rea in a time article Eccleson was always going to regenerate at the end of the series. he had first dibs on a 2nd series which implies a 'cliffhanger' or alternative end to the series and the crimbo special will start off the new 10th Doctor.

[Wiganer]

This series is growing on me, really looking forward to the Dalek episode next week :hyper:

[J.C]

That was a good preview for next weeks episode.

I am very annoyed i missed the 1st half for the utter crap that is Celebrity Wrestling.

[Zarius]

A FAR Superior episode to last weeks', which itself was great, this was amazing, a complete stab at Blair, a wonderfully acted episode, The Doctor unsure of how to answer the question of Roses' saftey, the aliens actually being less humerous and more truly threatning, Mikey launching the missle.

And the Alien's strategy had a great deal to do with using the Earth as fuel for the ressestion caused undoubtedly by the time war, although it was'nt exactly mentioned, we should just assume it was related to it.

Celebrity Wrestling has no chance next week...NONE

EXTERMINATE

[eldanielfire]

That was a good preview for next weeks episode.


Indeed. Dalek bondage. What more could you ask for?

[Mark Humphries]

"Doctor Who" averaged a more precise 7.26 million viewers with an audience share of 38.0%, peaking at 7.90 million viewers during the broadcast. "Celebrity Wrestling" averaged 3.8 million as noted, peaking at 4.3 million, audience share 20.8%. "Doctor Who" in fact had the highest audience share of the whole of Saturday, day and night, and was second only to "Casualty" in total ratings.

[Mark Humphries]

Cool picture here:

http://www.relativedimension.co.uk/images/dalekpics/dalek13.jpg

And here's too cool clips from Dalek:

Long Clip (http://homepage.mac.com/stuart621/dalek.mov)

Short Clip (http://homepage.mac.com/stuart621/Dalek2.mov)

[Aussie_Outlaw]

For any other Dr Who fans I may as well make it known that BBC7 (radio) is doing the Doctor Who (radio) serial 'The Ghosts of N Space'

It started yesterday and is in 6 parts (one a week).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc7/

Should be able to find it easily on Listen Again (Sunday 6pm) and each episode will be up for a week.

Oh and for the Aussies, the new Dr Who Series will run on ABC tv from Mid May.

[Wiganer]

Cool picture here:

http://www.relativedimension.co.uk/images/dalekpics/dalek13.jpg

And here's too cool clips from Dalek:

Long Clip (http://homepage.mac.com/stuart621/dalek.mov)

Short Clip (http://homepage.mac.com/stuart621/Dalek2.mov)

My god, that Dalek looks terrifiying! You can no longer sneak up behind it to get it. :scared:

[Zarius]

What a great episode, this series cannot be touched. At all, The Dalek gaining emotions was handled with far more precision than Star Trek bothered doing with "I, Borg", as the Dalek chose to kill itself when coming to terms it could'nt live with the aspects of fear, lonliness, sorrow, etc

Eccleston's performance was amazing, he and The Dalek had a thrilling conversation, thier ideals, thier opinions, and their lonliness, were all exchanged in the discussion, each full of haretd for one another, the war never ending, yet knowing full well that, for both of them, it DID, and both are the only survivors.

Still, it managed to OWN anyone that attacked it, the addition of the elevation mode gave it a great deal of new attacks, one of which was unleashing the sprinkler system and then firing ONE shot into the water, electrocuting each solider and killing all of them.

The Daleks were responsible for the Time War, I guess the books are'nt being used after all, The Doctor had a hand apparently in wiping them out.

[Mark Humphries]

Hmm. To paraphrase Paul Daniels, I liked it but not a lot. Would the Doctor have really left Adam with that thing in his head? Huge risk of disturbing time surely. Tamsin Grieg (right name?) seemed a bit wasted. Good CGI alien. Simon Pegg was good. Music was pretty intrusive throughout. Story just seemed to meander about. Two space station stories? Couldn't it have been set on Mars or one of those new moons or something. Enough rambling. Father's Day looks brilliant.

[Zarius]

I liked the episode, great to see that The Doctor does'nt take people with him that abuse thier privileges, Rose seemed to be doing nothing here, Adam got more screen time with his story, if he's nothing but a guest character, why honestly bother with this? It would have made more sense for him to stay around longer and have it mean something.

[Mark Humphries]

Billie Piper's agent has confirmed exclusively to Dreamwatch Magazine that the actress will be leaving Doctor Who during the second season. “She's not doing the full season,” the agent told Dreamwatch's Rod Edgar. Indications are that Piper will likely appear in between three and seven episodes of season two of Doctor Who. In departing the show she'll be following lead Christopher Eccleston, leaving 10th Doctor David Tennant to find himself a new companion.

For more information, as well as interviews with Billie Piper, Camille Coduri and John Barrowman, get Dreamwatch#130, available in London this weekend and across the UK from Thursday 26 May (and as #9 in the US from 21 June, but without the Barrowman and Coduri interviews).

If this version of Doctor Who, with it's great emphasis on characterisation, is to succeed (for me at least), and believe me I want it to do so, then I think it needs some long term characters that can develop over time. I would like to see characters develop over several series. I worry about where characters like that are going to come from.

Leading man and leading lady gone within a year and a half. I find this a little disappointing. I don't blame either of them and they're within their rights to do whatever they wish but from a purely artistic point of view, I think that this show needs to find some leads who are prepared to stay for a good few years.

US shows seem to have no trouble finding actors who will commit to a part for a longer period. Ah well.

Both Chris and Billie are superb, so I'm very grateful to have had them in Doctor Who. I just don't want every regular the show has to last such a short time.

[Zarius]

Both Chris and Billie are superb, so I'm very grateful to have had them in Doctor Who. I just don't want every regular the show has to last such a short time.

It sort of makes sense, Rose might find traveling with a Doctor whose personality and apperance is drastically different from Eccelston would give her a good reason to leave, at least logic is aiding Pipers' departure.

I'll miss her, the finest companion since Sophie Aldred.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

You can actually get all the Doctor Who Confidential episodes from the BBC website. Average quality though but still watchable.

16 or 8MB each.

The easiest place to link them from is wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_Confidential )

We're only upto Episode 3 here :(, anyone nearby who can help me attain the episodes? PM me or somethin.

[Stigger]

There's been a lot of press coverage about the upcoming episodes which see's the Doctor enter the Big Brother house and Rose on The Weakest Link with the robot Anne Robinson, who's known as Anne Droid. I just hope it comes off well and isn't as tacky as it could be. Though I've not been disapointed so far, so i'm fairly confident it'll be done well.

[Wiganer]

:hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper::hyper:

Daleks are back next week

[Freddie Mercury]

Next weeks episode looks real exciting, can't wait.

[Zarius]

IMDB is crediting "Norman Lovet" as...DAVROS.

"Lovet", in Anglo-Norman translation, is "WOLF".

Adam made his first appearance in a DALEK episode, he still has that huge hole in his forhead that can be used to deposit information, scienctific equations, formula, etc

The Doctor not only annihalted his own race...he ensured the Daleks' survival after the time war. Jesus...

...That's the current fan speculation

[JP]

That was without doubt the single best television episode i have ever watched.

Goosebumps the size of fuckin Watermelons.

[Zarius]

The single greatest cliffhanger of the season so far, the Daleks ignoring Rose after The Doctor turns the communication screen off is typical of thier arrogrance and determination to defeat The Doctor, the preview alone is sweet, too bad we know EXACTLY what the hologram means...

The Big Brother moments were weak, but then, they were only there sparingly, The Weakest Link and "What You Should Wear" moments were both chillingly immense and hilarious in execution

[JP]

too bad we know EXACTLY what the hologram means...


Do we?

[Stigger]

I'm just gutted that next weekes episode is going to be the last in the series and we have to wait till Christmas for another installment. The series seems to have flown by. I'd like to have gotten to know Rose and this Doctor a little more. Great quality so far.

[Just Joe]

:hyper: Considering I wasn't a Dr.Who fan at the begining of the series, I am way too excited for next weeks episode. Immense episode today. Bloody brilliant. :hyper:

[N.E.R.F.]

What happened? :mad:

Also, is it repeated anywhere?

[JP]

What happened? :mad:

Also, is it repeated anywhere?

BBC 3 tomorow.

If you've got it I wont tell you what happend as you need to see it! If not, then i'll dish the dirt.

[N.E.R.F.]

Don't have the bastard :irked:

Spoiler tags or PM would be fine :)

[Zarius]

Don't have the bastard :irked:

Spoiler tags or PM would be fine :)


The Doctor, Rose, and Jack were all returned to Sattilite Five, The Doctor paticipated in a Big Brother event (the contestents are allegedly "disintergrated" upon eviction) Rose is on the Weakest Link with "Ann Droid" (same rulles apply here from the Big Brother game, the weakest link is "disintergrated"), and Jack finds himself on "What You Should Be Wearing", baturally, The Doctor does'nt stay in the house for long, and he is spared from death by the stations' controller. The Doctor learns more about the Bad Wolf hints, and learns it's the name of the corporation that built Sattilite Five, he also learns his disposal of The Editor in "The Long Gamne" created a new timeline, and allowed Bad Wolfs' true masters to halt human progress through the captivation of telivision. Ensuring the planet's popualtion are defensless and too subjucated to resist invasion.

The Doctor and Jack reunite and try to save Rose as her game is ending, but she too is taken out by a disintergrator beam, she is however, transproted into a vast space ship, one of a billion hiding behind the sun, preapring to attack the Earth, on board, are an equal number of Daleks. The Doctor vows to rescue Rose from them as the invasion begins

[JP]

Bloody hell.

I PM'd him a version of that. Slightly less eloquent than that though.

[N.E.R.F.]

Both very helpful :yes:

Will be watching next week then :eek:

[Stigger]

Last episode tonight, can't believe how it's come and gone so quickly.

"It's the end, but the moment has been prepared for."

[Wiganer]

Wow, Just Wow.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

A-fucking-mazing.

[Wiganer]

It was, exciting and moving.

[Wiganer]

Also have you seen who is in the next series

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/ilove/years/1985/gallery/340/cybermen.jpg

[Darkoke]

Only episode I watched apart the first in the series, the end went a bit over my head though. Still, good stuff.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

I would say it was a magnificant finale.

Basically because I was prepared to sit on here and trowl through the boards for the duration of the show, yet it forced me to turn off and go watch it with undivided attention.

Excellent.

Haven't got into Dr Who greatly during the series, but that finale captured my imagination. I mean, the darleks were coming, and I was actually on the edge of my seat, the man's war call and their reaction was excellent. Perfect balance between action and emotion.

The regeneration at the end was also a good addition, Ecclestone has done a grand job hope Tennant can add something of his own to the role.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Also have you seen who is in the next series

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/ilove/years/1985/gallery/340/cybermen.jpg

Them blokes never used to shit me up as much as the darleks, but definitely look forward to having them back.

[Zarius]

This finale managed to icnpororate every main cast member into the story, and hey, at least the long dreaded kiss from the fans was only so The Doctor could abosrb the Time/Space vortex and trigger his regeneration.

The "Uber-Rose" moment is a standard cliche, but the execution was emotional and innovative

I'm glad The Emperor turned out to be a survivor of the Time War, reviving The Daleks in the way he did truly was genoicidal and sickening, The Emperor might have survived Uber-Roses' decimation of the fleet, since he was'nt seen to actually die.

The Dalek ambush was terrifying and a great example of classic Doctor Who, The Doctor refusing to kill again was a nice touch, and a reflection on a similar incident when the Fifth Doctor refused to kill Davros.

Arrrrgh, new episode in DECEMBER, for god's sake, bring on the second season, bring on The Cybermen, bring on The Doctor

"New teeth...that's expected, where was I? Oh yes, Barcelona"

[Wiganer]

This finale managed to icnpororate every main cast member into the story, and hey, at least the long dreaded kiss from the fans was only so The Doctor could abosrb the Time/Space vortex and trigger his regeneration.

The "Uber-Rose" moment is a standard cliche, but the execution was emotional and innovative

I'm glad The Emperor turned out to be a survivor of the Time War, reviving The Daleks in the way he did truly was genoicidal and sickening, The Emperor might have survived Uber-Roses' decimation of the fleet, since he was'nt seen to actually die.

The Dalek ambush was terrifying and a great example of classic Doctor Who, The Doctor refusing to kill again was a nice touch, and a reflection on a similar incident when the Fifth Doctor refused to kill Davros.

Arrrrgh, new episode in DECEMBER, for god's sake, bring on the second season, bring on The Cybermen, bring on The Doctor

"New teeth...that's expected, where was I? Oh yes, Barcelona"

It's only a christmas special in december, new series will be same time next year :(

[Zarius]

It's only a christmas special in december, new series will be same time next year :(

I know, I said new episode, not new season

[Raw Is Jonathan]

when the Fifth Doctor refused to kill Davros.

Sounds like a mad kebab-shop owning machete wielding Greek...

[Zarius]

http://who10.ytmnd.com/

Ex-Doctor Who companion Sarah Jane Smith will return in the new series of the sci-fi show, it was revealed as the Doctor's new costume was unveiled.
Popular 1970s character Sarah Jane, played by Elisabeth Sladen, will join new Doctor Who actor David Tennant.

However Rose, played by Billie Piper, will remain the Doctor's full-time companion throughout the new series.

The Doctor's "striking" new outfit consists of a striped suit, trenchcoat and trainers.

'Timeless and modern'

Tennant said: "I think we've come up with something distinctive that's both timeless and modern, with a bit of geek chic and of course, a dash of Time Lord!

"Most importantly Billie tells me she likes it - after all she's the one who has to see me in it for the next nine months."

Casanova star Tennant replaced Christopher Eccleston in the lead role, appearing briefly at the end of the last BBC series in June.


Sarah Jane originally appeared in Doctor Who from 1973 to 1976
Piper said she was "thrilled" to be playing companion Rose again.

"We plan to make series two even bigger and better and challenge the viewers' imaginations like never before," she said. "Wait until you get a load of the new doctor!"

The character Sarah Jane previously appeared in the series from 1973 to 1976, alongside Doctors played by Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker.

A journalist with outspoken feminist views, she was given robot dog K-9 as a goodbye present from the Doctor and appeared in spin-off pilot show K-9 and Company.

The new 13-part series will also feature Buffy the Vampire Slayer star Anthony Head and an episode will be written by comic Stephen Fry.

We can promise new thrills, new laughs, new heartbreak and some terrifying new aliens

Russell T Davies, executive producer
Penelope Wilton will return to play Harriet Jones in a Doctor Who Christmas special, as the alien Sycorax threatens the earth in an episode currently being filmed in Cardiff and London.

The Cybermen will return in the new series, and the Doctor and Rose will meet Queen Victoria and an evil race of Cat Women.

Coyote Ugly star Adam Garcia will make an appearance and further episodes will be written by Russell T Davies, Mark Gattis and Tom Macrae among others.

Davies, who remains the show's executive producer, said: "We were delighted and honoured by the first series' success, and we can promise new thrills, new laughs, new heartbreak and some terrifying new aliens."

[eldanielfire]

Well.....I really like the new style, trainers an all (I wear a suit and trainers when I can get away with it at work :D). And I like what I hear for the new series, Sarah Jane Smith was prehaps my fav companion (Romanna being my other fav) and certainly my fav human companion, so I'm over joyed she is returning.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/eldanielfire/t4.jpg



http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/eldanielfire/t3.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/eldanielfire/t2.jpg

[Zarius]

Some interesting information is being discussed on Outpost Gallifrey, and the Sun Newspaper

The finale of season two has allegedly been revealed, the twelth episode "Army of Ghosts" will feature a secondary apperance from The Cybermen...but the cliifhanger leading into the next episode will involve a direct confrontation with The Daleks, whom Davis had claimed would'nt be showing up next season

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I'm really happy K9 is appearing in the new series. K9 is a little champ.

Also hoping for more odd alien series with out of Earth type episodes. The one main problem in the last series is the lack of true Sci-Fi episodes. Sure it may not rate, but if the stories are done right they're really good.

I've been doing the big finish doctor who audio dramas and they're just awesome.

[Zarius]

Paul Mcgann was such a wasted oppertunity, the audios prove it, heres' hoping the current "season" is'nt his final one, they've wrapped up the Eigthh Doctor books as present day continuity, I don't want the audios suffering the same fate

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Yep, that's one of the strong Audio series I've been following. Started after the BBC did Storm Warning on BBC7.

I'm upto Time Of The Daleks, the good news is I'm finally getting to the point of where we fix up the whole Charley incident and such, which is really awesome.

McGann has such a great voice, he's one of the best doctors for a radio medium. The other is Peter Davidson. I can do without Colin Baker. Jon Pertwee is good, but not great and Slyvester McCoy just has a funny lil voice, which is good and ok, but hard to take seriously all the time. So my Doctor list goes something like: 8,5,3,7,9,4,6... haven't seen/heard anything from 1 or 2 or 4 or 10 even though I have bit of 1&2 anyway so they're not in the list.

Last time I looked at the Big Finish site they've started doing 8th Doctor singles rather than 4-5 cd seasons. I think they'll just keep going like that with a rotation of 8,5,6,7 doctors as they're doing now until their licence expires where they may put out a single last 8th doctor one which ends his life. Their licence currently runs til 2007, so we have another year and a bit at least. Considering I'm playing catch-up, I don't really mind since I have around 60 unlistened ones. Though it'd be nice to see a 9th Doctor Story if they could get a 1 off with Piper and Eccleston, though they currently can't do that.

But still I'm loving the 2nd McGann season, Embrace the Darkness was kinda weak but Season's Of Fear & Chimes Of Midnight were just awesome.

[Zarius]

Personal favourate of the Mcgann years pre-Zagreus (note to writers...concept seasons are shit, "Trial of a Time Lord", look it up) were Time of the Daleks and Invaders From Mars, I'm now adding Terra Firma to that list

[Aussie_Outlaw]

:lol: Daleks quoting Shakespeare in Time Of The Daleks. Classic.

Just finished that Season now, quite obvious about Charley, but a nice ending with it continuing through a loop. And that the pilot dalek dies because the same people meet. Hmm Neverland. Must say the 2nd Season is awesome.

[Zarius]

:lol: Daleks quoting Shakespeare in Time Of The Daleks. Classic.

Just finished that Season now, quite obvious about Charley, but a nice ending with it continuing through a loop. And that the pilot dalek dies because the same people meet. Hmm Neverland. Must say the 2nd Season is awesome.

Oh god, listen, after Zagreus, SKIP, REPEAT, SKIP Season Three.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Whats your opinion on each of the Doctors Zarius?

[Zarius]

William Hartnell: Performance was sound for an aged version of the character, working backwards from forwards is even better, quick to temper, menacing, cold, sometimes selfish, the blueprint for other actors who would try to imitate it (none to the degree Mcoy did)

Patric Troughton: ALmost like Hartnell, tempered, childish, but also wise and restrained when in control, or to show he has control in situations that are'nt quite IN control. Does panic when those situations escalate.

Jon Petwee: James Bond, which was what roughtly half of his seasons emulated until his exile was finished, he adapted quite well and became just a good a Time Lord as he did a scienteific advisor who could throw a sonic screwdriver into the works

Tom Baker; Bohemian, chillingly unpredictable.

Peter Davison: The vulnerable one, always restrained, not wanting to cause or to witness too much violence, yet was invovled in at least three of the darkest, bloodiest serials in the series' history.

Collin Baker: The mistreated one, born so breif, endured so little, left such wasted potential, the audios certaingly delivered on what he could have briught to the series.

Sylvestor Mcoy: The manipulator, the Ka Faraq Gatri come alive, the great destroyer of empires, killed a Dalek just by remidning him it was the last of its' kind on Earth.

Paul Mcgann: Great performer, The adventurous romantic who overdoes it for the sake of that attribute

Chirstopher Eccelston: ...Fantastic, himself being reminded through Rose of who he was, whilst reminding us what Doctor Who is and what The Doctor is.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

But but your favourites?

[Zarius]

http://news.independent.co.uk/media/article320110.ece

The BBC has commissioned the Doctor Who scriptwriter Russell T Davies to make an adult post-watershed spin-off of its most famous sci-fi show.

The new programme will be called Torchwood (an anagram of Doctor Who) and will follow a crack team investigating alien activities and crime in modern-day Britain.

It will feature in its starring role John Barrowman, who played Captain Jack Harkness in Doctor Who and who will play the same character in Torchwood.

Like the latest version of Doctor Who, which the BBC successfully relaunched this year, Torchwood will be based in Cardiff. Davies, who has just begun writing Torchwood, said the new programme would be aimed at adult audiences and would "have its own, unique identity". He said: "Torchwood will be a dark, clever, wild, sexy, British crime/sci-fi paranoid thriller cop show with a sense of humour - the X Files meets This Life," the latter a reference to the groundbreaking Nineties BBC drama about a group of young lawyers in Bristol.

Torchwood will be shown next summer on BBC3 in 13 episodes, each lasting 45 minutes. Alert viewers of the forthcoming Doctor Who Christmas special will hear a reference to the Torchwood unit and further mentions will be made in the new series in the spring.

Stuart Murphy, the controller of BBC3, described Davies as an "absolute genius" and described Torchwood as "a massive coup".

He said: "We had never done sci fi before and it is a genre which people treat in a certain way. You look at what he has done with Dr Who and we said to Russell what would you do with a post-watershed sci fi?"

Mr Murphy said he hoped that Davies would bring to the new series a similar quirky humour that the writer deployed in the period drama Casanova, which was also shown on BBC3 before moving to BBC1.

"Each episode of Torchwood will be a one-off story and will be funny in a way that Casanova brought humour to period drama," he said.

Captain Jack has been described as Doctor Who's "first openly gay companion" and a "hunky bisexual".

Davies told Doctor Who magazine earlier this year: "It wasn't me sort of dying to get a bisexual character on screen. Yes, I'm a gay writer, but I was thinking: Jack's from the 51st century so of course he's going to go out with men and women. To get hung up on it is almost too sad for words, frankly."

Torchwood will allow Davies to explore relationships a little further. Mr Murphy said of the new series: "The people have affairs with one another. There will be sex and swearing, I assume. I'm quite relaxed about that, it will be post-watershed and Russell can do it in a funny and sexy way."

Describing the idea behind the new show, the BBC controller said: "It's a renegade bunch of investigators who investigate real-life, normal crimes. They also look into alien happenings. They have been charged by the British government to find alien technology that has fallen to Earth and they need to do it without the FBI and UN knowing."

Mr Murphy said the new series would have a distinctly Welsh feel, reflecting Davies's Swansea roots. "It's set in modern-day Cardiff. Unlike Doctor Who, which made Cardiff look like Dickensian London, this will look like Cardiff."

Davies said he was especially pleased to have secured the services of the "fantastic" Barrowman and said that Torchwood "gives us the chance to further develop exceptional talent from Doctor Who".

Barrowman, who as Captain Jack is part of the Doctor's Tardis crew, was born in Glasgow but grew up in Illinois. He first came to prominence as a children's television presenter on the show Live and Kicking, where he worked alongside Emma Forbes and Andy Peters.

BBC3 hopes to begin screening Torchwood at the end of the next series of Doctor Who adventures, in which the Doctor will be played by David Tennant.

Torchwood is the latest morphing of one of the BBC's most famous shows, which first reached the screens in 1963, although the programme will be distinct from Doctor Who and no stories will directly cross over between the two projects.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Oh god, listen, after Zagreus, SKIP, REPEAT, SKIP Season Three.

I did Season 3 :p

The Natural History of Fear is good
Schitzo is good
The other two are average.

They're not that bad. I found The Last to be even worse, it's easily the worst one so far from the 8th Doctor era. Faith Healers was fun though.

Still it'll be good to hear the last 2 eps from the divergent Universe.I've also started the 5th Doctor series with Peri & Emerimen.... or however you spell that name.

[Zarius]

The Saturday morning edition of The Mirror is reporting that Billie Piper has informed producers that she will be leaving Doctor Who and has no intention of returning for a third series. The article, penned by Kiki King and Nicola Methven -- the latter having been the journalist responsible for the Mirror's breaking news report in late March that Christopher Eccleston was leaving the series -- says that Piper "told producers she did not want to become typecast as they begged her to stay for a third run of the hit show. A source said last night: 'Her mind's made up. ... She wants to strike while the iron's hot and make a big name for herself while she's so popular. She feels her profile will go down if the series isn't as big the third time around. The BBC are auditioning other girls to take over. They want to have the next actress all lined up when they announce Billie's departure.'"

The Mirror notes that Piper had nearly left the series during its second year but was persuaded to stay and film the year with the new Doctor, David Tennant, and states that the production team has been "conducting secret auditions with a small number of actresses and keeping it very, very quiet. They are after a relative newcomer so this is the role which puts her in the public eye. It also means she's less likely to get bored after one series."

Without specifically stating it, the article intimates that Piper will stay aboard the series for the season, departing sometime before its conclusion. At press time there is currently no official confirmation from the Doctor Who production team or any other BBC sources, but we're likely to hear a lot about this in the coming hours and days. Stay tuned...

This makes sense, her story was essentially told throughout season one, and was the basis for Eccelstons' Doctor basiclly being reminded of what he loves about the human race in general, enough to get him over the death of his people. Shed' be pretty much generic now.

[Locdog07]

Good. Can't stand her.

[MichaelC]

Good. Can't stand her.


And they killed off Jo Joyner for what? Sobs. Comes back, Lynda with a Y!

But I'm happy because my favourite monsters in Scifi history are only 5 or so months away from a return!!

[Stigger]

Apparently there's a special on tonight as part of the Children in Need show. Don't know how long it is or even to what extent it is, but there's going to be something.

[Zarius]

Five minute prelude to "The Christmas Invasion"

Textbook regeneration...it goes wrong, Doctor starts acting psychotic, begins suffering time/space vortex indigestion of some sort

Tenant wasn't bad at all, pretty solid performance

[Stigger]

The clip can be found on the bbc's website here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/doctorwho/ram/cin05?size=16x9&bgc=CC0000&nbram=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1&bbwm=1

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Tenant wasn't bad at all, pretty solid performance

Pity about Piper, she just mumbled all her lines and was inaudible for the most part. Plus she didn't play freightened and shocked very well. She seemed more dumbfounded than anything.

[Zarius]

Pity about Piper, she just mumbled all her lines and was inaudible for the most part. Plus she didn't play freightened and shocked very well. She seemed more dumbfounded than anything.

This was written and filmed deep into the season, so shes' used to Tennants' Doctor by now and could'nt give a convincing "shocked" approach

[Locdog07]

That's a daft excuse. She's an actress. If she can't call upon her memories of being unfamiliar, or "shocked", by Tennant's Doctor, then it's her own fault.

Tennant was in the same boat, but he managed to pull off the whole discovering-his-new-body thing just fine.

[Zarius]

That's a daft excuse. She's an actress. If she can't call upon her memories of being unfamiliar, or "shocked", by Tennant's Doctor, then it's her own fault

Who was giving her excuses?:wtf:

I did'nt like her performance either, that was just my reason for it, of course its' her own fault, because Tennant was nailing the role and owning her every minute, and looked motivated.

It makes me wonder if she is even going to try this season...

[Locdog07]

Well, I guess I just didn't unnerstand your explanation then, since it should obviously also apply to Tennant and yet he was fine...

I'll be so glad when she's gone. :yes:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I do wonder what she'll do in this new season. Since we essentially gave her entire story out in Series 1 and the entire series revolved around her can we move things back to around the Doctor and release more details about this Time War and such? More Sci-Fi!

But it does make me wonder, what will she do? Hopefully she'll just become a companion and sit back and ride because I despised episodes based around her (eg Father's Day). And it did leave me kinda flat in the ending of the last episode. Seemed rushed and just that I wish she died. And the Daleks can't just be removed like that. Bah. I hope she gets kidnapped by the Cybermen and they give her robot hands like Luke in Star Wars... I do wish after the romance between Doctor 9 and her we get a hostile silly Doc and they can't stand each other but she stays hoping to see more of the universe. MORE HOSTILITY.

MORE K-9!

I hope K-9 laser's her.

[Stigger]

Have to say I love Doctor Who, todays episode has really gotten me looking forward to the new series. Can't wait infract. Just a shame we all have to.

[Zarius]

Damn it, next season premiers in March, that special had it all as far as post-regeneartion episodes go, Tennant shows signs of hysteria, cultural adaption, and Syvlestor Mcoy, dark, ominous at times, right from the beggining the episode moves quick and establishes the settings perfectly.

The twist, with the referencing, and then the callous actions, of Torchwood against the vulnerable (and departing) Sycorax hopefully does'nt mean the end already of Harriets' reign as prime minister, or will the "six words" ring true, and she returns a bitter enemy?

...Greatest six words ever, "Dont' you think she looks tired?"

Season Two trailer looked immense, Face of Bo is back, Anthony Stewart Head, Cybermen.... "Excellent"

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Downloading now.

Plus should I download the Attack of the Graske BBCi thing afterwards? And which ending?

[Stigger]

Went on the interactive thing at the end, a bit of fun really, another chance to see a bit more of Tennants Doctor. Just make sure you remember to be a good guy.

I loved the references to the past Doctors, Tom Bakers scarf for example. Plus we have Sarah Jane coming and an old rusted K-9. Brilliant, just brilliant.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d87/Stiggerd/elizabeth_sladen0002.jpg

[Zarius]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/

[Stigger]

Our cousins across the pond finally get to enjoy the 9th Doctor at work. Good news for us too, if it takes of over there, then there's more chance of it staying on longer over here. There's also the chance of keeping the actors involved on for longer too, especially if it makes them a household name in the States.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Series 2 supposedly starts on April 16th... not confirmed but thats the date thats been mentioned a bit around the traps.

Also I just found Time Works (Big Finish 80) the latest story in the 8th Doctor audio saga. Wooooo! More of my favourite Dr. :)

So :p to you Alky.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Trailer for Season 2 is out from yesterday.

Series starts in 2 weeks.

:hyper:

and I'll rename this to make it a proper Doctor Who thread. Since the title isn't really topical anymore.

[Stigger]

Starts tomorrow!

[Zarius]

Starts today

[Wiganer]

Can't wait till 7:15 tonight, seen the trailers and the Cybermen look ace. Well by ace I mean they look great, not look like ace. Wonder what episode they are going to be in.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/51/Acewho.jpg

[gulfcoast_highwayman]

Well done on finding a picture where Ace looks remotely shaggable.

On one of the various Doctor Who documentary shows on the beeb last week they featured Peri as she looks nowadys. Still very do-able.

[Wiganer]

Ace > Perry.

[gulfcoast_highwayman]

Ace > Perry.


It's nice that blind people enjoy Dr Who just like normal sighted folk.;)

http://www.scifiscience.co.uk/images/drwho/peri.jpg

Seriously though.......

[Wiganer]

Really enjoyed tonights episode, Rose looked especially gorgeous today, if you'd have said a few years back that she was going to be a Dr Who assistant and look fit, I would have laughed in your face.

If I have one complaint with this format is a again the shows seem a little rushed. Looks like there is going to be a guiding arc though with the Face of Bo's prophecy being a focal point of this season.

[Alicia]

Bloody brilliant first episode. David Tennant looks to be shaping up a great replacement for Chris Eccleston. The make up effects on the cat people were superb, and Cassandra is a great character. The ending was quite sad, but the preview trailer for next week looks great.

[Wiganer]

Bloody brilliant first episode. David Tennant looks to be shaping up a great replacement for Chris Eccleston. The make up effects on the cat people were superb, and Cassandra is a great character. The ending was quite sad, but the preview trailer for next week looks great.


He looks like the werewolf in The Prisoner of Askaban.

[Stigger]

Bloody excellent episode, a great fun start to the series. Billie Piper really did look very shaggable. If only there was a late night adult version where we got to see a bit more of her.

[Alicia]

Can't wait for the Cybermen. They used to scare the shit out of me when I was a wee lass. Anyone know if the Daleks are back in this series?

[Wiganer]

I doubt they will be back this series. Rose wiped out the emperor who was the last surviving true dalek.

[Kris]

That was fucking shite m8. Absolute balls.

[Zarius]

That was fucking shite m8. Absolute balls.

Rose: You're talking out of your ar-

-Ask no more questions:p


Great premiere, the scene with Cassandra saying to herself how beutiful she looked and completing a paradxox that mainfested itself as a memory she was telling The Doctor of earlier was a great touch. Passing the torch to a new thriving race of humans to inhabit the new Earth, poigant

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Looks like there is going to be a guiding arc though with the Face of Bo's prophecy being a focal point of this season.

I hope he doesn't appear this Season but next season as to link the seasons together. Also that way we kinda forget about him and in the middle of season 3 we go "oh him, I forgot about him"

Also I may as well add that the commentary for the episode is up on the official site as was done with the Christmas Invasion. Seems they're going to do commentary for all the episodes. It's a nice idea.

[Kris]

Seriously, it was awful...

[Aussie_Outlaw]

The one thing that really did shit me was the ending as we've just closed a sci-fi episode with a time-travel paradox :soapbox:

They should know better.

Also did they have to leave the face of boe's line completely ambigious? A third and final time? So is that two times or one? They probably mean just one more time, but if I was writing the series I'd make him appear a 4th time just to annoy everyone who wasn't paying enough attention

[Alicia]

I really liked the ending.:dunno:

It was a good opening episode; it introduced us to the new doctor(yeah, I know, the Xmas episode) and established Rose still has feelings for this new incarnation.

[Wiganer]

Seriously, it was awful...


What was so bad about it?

[Beefy]

Kris is right. That was by far the worst episode since they brought the show back. Self-righteous, dull, boring pap.

Billie Piper is possibly the worst actress I have ever seen.

[Zarius]

This is the same thing some people went through with Davis's writing last time, the guy is often regrded as being inconsistent in comparison to the other guys like Moffet and Gatis on the show who have written Who fiction before and know the character and universe a little better. He's written some great stuff before (especially "End of the World" and "Parting of the Ways"), but he also has a rep for writing some of the weaker episodes.

I don't have a problem with the weak links though, I'm one of few who liked "Rose" and "Boom Town"

[Wiganer]

Enjoyed the episode today only complaint again is that the storys are a little rushed. This torchwood idea sounds shit though.. who want's a Dr Who series without Dr Who?

[Alicia]

Well, tonight's episode was another good'un. I liked the pop culture references-the Doctor mentioned he was from Balamory at one point! The story was a bit ho hum, a basic taking over the world tale, but done well. Queen Victoria was very good, and the wolf effects were brilliant.

Also, the head monk was Pierluigi Collina!:eek:

Stupid question, but is David Tennant Scottish or English? Both accents are convincing!

[Wiganer]

Stupid question, but is David Tennant Scottish or English? Both accents are convincing!

He's Scottish.

[Roman Bridger]

Enjoyed the episode today only complaint again is that the storys are a little rushed. This torchwood idea sounds shit though.. who want's a Dr Who series without Dr Who?

It stars Captain Jack! I hope he can carry his own series!

Tonights episode was great. A vast improvement from last weeks. Next weeks should be one of the best though!

[Zarius]

Enjoyed the episode today only complaint again is that the storys are a little rushed. This torchwood idea sounds shit though.. who want's a Dr Who series without Dr Who?

The 1990's series "Dark Season", which was Doctor Who at it's core, was by Davis despite having nothing to do with the canon or the character (until Davis implied it was in his novel "Damaged Goods"). I'd watch it based on the fact Jack's appearing in it as a regular, and the plausibility of the Doctor's world of aliens, new or old, guest starring in it someday.

Plus I've watched anything by Davis. Queer As Folk, Bob and Rose, Second Coming, he's darned good at late night drama, and this will be in that time slot.

As for "Tooth and Claw", loved the stabs at Princess Anne, and Victoria exiling The Doctor because his attitude pissed her off as much as the real dangers around her. Great reason for Torchwood's creation and why The Doctor was never told of it, presumbly on sealed orders passed down from the royal bloodline. In short, Doctor Who gives power back to the royal figures again

[Stigger]

The commentary is up on the BBC website again btw

[Zarius]

Some of you may enjoy this, the "official" Torchwood site for the institute.

http://www.visittorchwood.co.uk/

Secondly, the "Empire of the Wolf" comment and Victoria talking to Rose about seeing other wolves implies the Bad Wolf subplot may be far from finished.

...Hmm...there seems to be a fascination with Mars on the Observatory section, particulary the sea of tranquility, the password to begin scanning for "Heavenly Bodies", missing defense sattilites, is "Victoria"

[Beefy]

Much better episode yesterday. Despite the dodgy special effects.

[Alicia]

I thought the special effects were good. The werewolf did look entirely CGI, but the closeups were pretty cool. I liked the 'wolf's eye' effect.

I got the feeling there was much more to this story, so hopefully we'll find out more in the coming episodes.

Next week though-:eek: Can't wait!

[Wiganer]

I never did like K9.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

:slap: for not liking K9.

Watched it last night, better than the first and tied itself around existing history really well. I still am annoyed I have to wait 3 more weeks for Cybermen. Bah!

[Wiganer]

Well, that was a bit shit.

[Alicia]

It was totally shit.:irked:

However, I think the monster crap was just a way of getting the Doctor's former assistant back in the picture to explain the dynamics of the relationship with the doctor. From that point of view, I found it pretty interesting.

I also shed a tear when Sarah Jane got her goodbye and got K9 back.:ashamed:

[Lawson]

I loved it :)

Chunk of that is probably because i'm a big Anthony Stewart Head fan, so was always going to enjoy that aspect of it. The comedic aspects were played quite well this week; K9 and Mickey a surprisingly decent pair. Mickey versus the Computers was also oddly entertaining.

The line "forget the Shooty Dog Thing" was golden, also.

[Alicia]

Yeah, Anthony Head was great. He was a very over-the-top villain, and reminded me of Hannibal Lecter the way he had his hair. The Krilitains(?) were shit, too much like the Borg idea assimilating stuff.

[Alf]

How was he 'over-the-top'? Do you even know what that meas?

[JP]

It was superb with great performances all round.

"Very bad dog"

"Affermative"

:lol:

[Zarius]

Superb episode, and they went back and covered The Doctor ditching Sarah Jane, other books and strips have done this, but never in the touching manner this provided. Sladen said it best in a documentary that Sarah was The Doctor's best friend, and that impression was pretty strong during her tenure, and the way she was written out was still the crulest dismissal since The First Doctor threw Susan out of the TARDIS back in season two (and some of you definatly need to watch that, it's sheer "The Doctor is an asshole grandparent")

Great that it ended with a proper farewell between them.

Best scene: "We're in a car"

[Alf]

K9 would kill everyone.

So, what did happen with the Doctor and Sarah-Jane?

The only Doctor Who I remember is with Sylvester McCoy.

[Alf]

K9 would kill everyone.

So, what did happen with the Doctor and Sarah-Jane?

The only Doctor Who I remember is with Sylvester McCoy.

[Zarius]

K9 would kill everyone.

So, what did happen with the Doctor and Sarah-Jane?

The only Doctor Who I remember is with Sylvester McCoy.

Sarah transistioned between the Third and Fourth, she became extremly popular and shared an easier relationship with him than other companions, used to the world of danger because of her journalist career. She was completly devoted to him, which made her being dumped off pretty powerful stuff back when it happened. She's also starred in the pilot for a K-9 series that never got produced, and a few audio adveture spin offs.

[Alf]

How did she get dumped off though? What happened?

[Zarius]

How did she get dumped off though? What happened?

The Doctor got called back to Gallifrey (continued in his only solo story "The Deadly Assasin", a great peice by Robert Holmes), and had to dump off Sarah quickly as outsiders were'nt allowed on the planet back then (contradicted later in "The Invasion Of Time"), he never said goodbye

[Alf]

What a bastard.

[Zarius]

What a bastard.

Well since you watched Mcoy's Doctor, who manipulated everybody, it's no surprise by now he is.:)

...Oh man..I found Dimensions In Time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0fl-kol9N0&search=Doctor%20Who

[Wiganer]

Whilst I agree that the subplot involving Sarah Jane was interesting, I think in the main it was just a really simplistic plot, you had screaming monsters and a head bad guy that was just plain awfull, I was embarresed to watch Anthony Head's performance it was terrible.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

I thought it was alright, not as good as last weeks one like.

C'mon though, the guy working out how to shut off all the PC's.. large, over-elabourate-warning-sticker-marked wire covers all leading too.. *dramatic music stops* 1 plug in a socket :lol:

[gulfcoast_highwayman]

Yes but didn't the editor screw up that moment with the switch. It was crying out for a dramatic power down noise. Instead it cut straight to the kids (who's headphones had disapeared) running straight out.

I loved the stuff between Sarah Jane & The Doctor. It was quite touching. Now, if they can bring back Romana II and have her still be as lovely as she was, I'll be a happy highwayman.

[PaulBDangerously]

Whilst I agree that the subplot involving Sarah Jane was interesting, I think in the main it was just a really simplistic plot, you had screaming monsters and a head bad guy that was just plain awfull, I was embarresed to watch Anthony Head's performance it was terrible.

Your opinion is wrong. Head was predictably great. The swimming pool scene was best bad guy scene in all of new Who. I'm just sad that he won't be returning (Damnit, he'd be a perfect Master, as well). Anyway I really enjoyed it, yet again the non RTD episodes seem to be the best ones.