Hip Hop Discussion/Album Review Thread.

[Bert]

http://i.imgur.com/bww3tlU.png

Winning.

More than Big Sean, 2 Chainz, Tyler The Creator, Earl, Pusha T, and Juicy J.

But much like reviews I don't even care about album sales. There are people who do though which is why I'm glad it did well.

It didn't bother me when Camp did 52k but it's cool to see Donald do almost double with this album.

[Fro]

Donald has been saying in interviews he doesn't want to just make albums anymore. He wants to make worlds.

That sounds so stupid.

I like BTI. I think his singing has come a long way. I previously cringed and fast forwarded whenever he went high pitch (see: All the Shine) but on this album he actually does the singing in a way that doesn't sound terrible. He's finally doing the Drake thing well. His production is great, as usual, and his rapping is solid. I haven't read the script yet, should probably give that a read at some point.

I don't know if this is hip hop or not but the story of the week in terms of sales is obviously Beyonce. She did 600k in the U.S. in only 3 days with a surprise release, no promotion, no singles and digital sales only. Un-freaking-believable. She did more in 3 days than she's ever done before in her opening week. It's really fascinating from a marketing perspective. The album is really good too, for a pop/R&B album anyway. Plus the videos are hot:

https://24.media.tumblr.com/2998305112d99b7b4952447f301352a3/tumblr_mxqcqu5U5X1qzwh14o1_500.gif

What I'd give to be Jay-Z for a day...

[G-Fresh]

R.I.P. Scarecrow

[Donald]

oh no poor cillian murphy

[Donald]

Been listening to 2pac all eyez on me. is this the masterpiece they say it is? I don't really know, some songs are ok some put me to sleep.

[Fro]

Even though it got 5 mics and whatnot, I don't think most people consider it a masterpiece. There's a fair amount of filler. Would have been a classic single disc though. Me Against The World is his best album IMO.

[Donald]

Thanks Fro, I will check that one out.

[Bert]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ5rI461KNE

And the FUPM mixtape finally dropped. I was starting to wonder if they broke up.

http://www.audiomack.com/album/wegothiphop/fupm-is-the-future-wegothiphop

[Stringer Bell]

OK I've had some time to think about it and let some more things digest so here's my best of 2013 list. I gotta preface by saying that there's SO much music out there these days, rap and otherwise, and it's just impossible to keep up with everything. There's so much stuff I missed that I'm just now finding, and even some albums that I've listened to previously where I'm just now realizing how damn good they are. For instance, the Prodigy & Alchemist Albert Einstein album. Fucking great album front to back, seriously. But it took me all year to get a chance to give it a really thorough listen.

Anyway, top 10 albums..

1. Kanye West - Yeezus. It's a polarizing album for sure. You always hear people describe albums or artists by saying "oh yeah, there's no middle ground, you either love 'em or hate 'em." But oftentimes I find that's not really the case. Here though, it's never been more accurate. I've literally never heard anyone say "Meh, Yeezus is kinda cool, 5/10." I think the people that DO shit on it don't really see how high he set the bar with this record and for some reason don't like seeing the norms pushed and broken. This album is insane on all levels, it just sounds like the future, and in that respect has a lot in common with El-P's Cancer 4 Cure which I gave #1 last year. I'll admit that I stan pretty hard for Kanye, but I feel like if any other artist put this album out (they couldn't, though) I'd like it just as much.

2. Danny Brown - Old: Another record that seems to draw somewhat split opinions, but it seems like the majority dug it. For me, it was everything I expected and more. Most people probably already know this, but, on the first half, you get the more lyrical, introspective, and dark side of Danny, and then on the second he lets loose over more energetic, amped up production. There's a TON of memorable lines on this record.. "Wearing jackets in the house, it's a Michigan winter" from the jump.. "Iverson zig-zags, goodnight fast food, if you really ballin, mommy cop Chinese food," "Listenin' to 2 Chainz, ain't thinkin bout college/I wonder if he knew that 2 Chainz went to college," "Popped a couple pills, eyes glowin like Belly" I could keep going. And don't get me started on the beats. It was hard to choose between this and Yeezus at #1.

3. Run the Jewels - Self-Titled: Goddamn. Killer Mike had a 2003 album called Monster, but this is the real monster. This album is crazy and just gets better with each listen. Two of 2012's best solo acts coming together for a group, and they're gonna do it again next year? This is arguably the best thing going on in rap right now. If you haven't heard it, stop reading and get it now http://foolsgoldrecs.com/runthejewels/

4. Action Bronson & Party Supplies - Blue Chips 2: You know you're doing something right when your free albums keep getting ranked among the year's very best. Bronson also connected with Harry Fraud for the Saab Stories EP, which a lot of people found disappointing, but I actually wish it was longer and a little more cohesive. Anyway, Blue Chips 2 remedies both of those issues and stands out as one of his best projects yet. The familiar samples, the always-entertaining lyrics, the semi-obscure sports references, it's all there. I can't wait for Bronson's full length LP next year.

5. ASAP Rocky - LongLiveASAP: Maybe a slight step down from his previous tape, but still full of great songs front to back. The entire ASAP Mob had a great year, Ferg's album is also one of my favorites and ASAP Nast "Trillmatic" with Method Man is one of the best New York songs I've heard in years.

6. Pusha T - My Name is My Name
7. Earl Sweatshirt - Doris
8. Willie the Kid - Aquamarine
9. Roc Marciano - The Pimpire Strikes Back
10. Freddie Gibbs - ESGN

Honorable mention #1: Don Trip & Starlito - Step Brothers 2

I'll be back with more honorable mentions later... like I said, just so much stuff to dig through. Most notably I wasn't really feeling the Chance the Rapper tape as much as a lot of heads and media were.. it might end up as an honorable mention but it's definitely not in my Top 10. I probably like Because the Internet more, actually.

[Bert]

Yeezus ripped off industrial music, how is that the future?

[MikeHunt]

because the internet

[MikeHunt]

bert you look at things so narrowly.

firstly look at the way kanye uses peoples vocals throughout yeezus, especially Justin Vernon (Bon Iver) who appears multiple times and his voice is almost soulless as its layered so heavily on itself and with effects. anyone whos heard his voice before should understand that this is undeniably an incredible feat but adds hugely to the feel of yeezus picture of big lonely sounds and is a technique that i can't remember being used by such a main stream artist ever.

to say that kanye rips of industrial music on yeezus is ridiculous. kanye is 100% using minimal techno beats with and industrial sounds on yeezus. while the beats aren't that innovative due to not being particularly experimental. see the beauty of minimal techno is the small movements in the music, not fucking key changes or big fuck off hooks, its; a little movement in the kick drum, its an additional note added on the synth, its an extra run on the bass ect all building the music to a peak again something that is not being used by mainstream producers at all today. (please do not fucking link any deep fucking house hip hop tracks to me after reading that as they are completely different.)

this is why it's the future and to be fair kanye's never got it wrong before.

[Fro]

because the internet

Well said. It's ironic that Bert's favorite rapper is influenced so strongly by his least favorite. You can hear so much MBDTF-Yeezus influence in BTI.

[MikeHunt]

yup. you certainly can.

although the gulf in class between those albums and BTI is ridiculous

[Bert]

Kanye's not my least favorite rapper. I love Late Registration, College Dropout, Graduation and I like 808's more than most other people seem to. I just think MBDTF was okay (mostly the singles) and Yeezus was fucking garbage. But Kanye is now this "god" that has such a hold on people that he could record himself grunting taking a shit for an hour and everyone would talk about how innovative it was and he would go platinum. I'm just not drinking the koolaid, that's all. It probably doesn't help my opinion of him that the fame has went to his head and turned him into an ignorant arrogant jackass, and that's putting it lightly.

And while there's some influence on BTI it's being vastly overstated. Donald started working on BTI in December 2012 and he said in October that the album was done. Yeezus came out in June. I highly doubt Donald worked on his album for 6 months and then Yeezus dropped and then he spent 4 months changing stuff to sound more like Yeezus.

[MikeHunt]

It's seriously not impossible that he did do that.

[Chris Scott]

Been listening to 2pac all eyez on me. is this the masterpiece they say it is? I don't really know, some songs are ok some put me to sleep.

Love it me but yeah wouldn't say masterpiece as there is some filler songs.

[Bert]

It's seriously not impossible that he did do that.

Just highly doubtful.

[Bert]

I just heard Trophies for the first time. Why does Drake sound like he's yelling into the mic from 20 feet away?

[Fro]

Fro's top 10 hip hop albums of 2013:

1. The Marshall Mathers LP 2
2. Yeezus
3. Deltron Event II
4. Nothing was the Same
5. CZARFACE
6. Long.Live.ASAP
7. Run the Jewels
8. Because the Internet
9. Magna Carta Holy Grail
10. Doris

Honorable mentions: Knock Madness, My Name is My Name

[Stringer Bell]

Damn I left off about Czarface, a lot of early 2013 releases that I forgot to consider for the list.

Honestly surprised you have MMLP2 so high, but meh. To each his own.

Also wasn't really feeling Deltron.

MCHG is way better than some people act like it is. So many #Bangerz

No love for Old?

[Bert]

Fro's top 10 hip hop albums of 2013:

1. The Marshall Mathers LP 2
2. Yeezus
3. Deltron Event II
4. Nothing was the Same
5. CZARFACE
6. Long.Live.ASAP
7. Run the Jewels
8. Because the Internet
9. Magna Carta Holy Grail
10. Doris

Honorable mentions: Knock Madness, My Name is My Name

At least you didn't put Yeezus number 1.

I think I posted mine already.

[Bert]

So after hearing about some projects that I might have been sleeping on I put together a playlist to run through and see what I like.

Clear Soul Forces - Gold Pp7s
Logic - Young Sinatra - Welcome To Forever
Audio Push - Come As You Are
Willie The Kid - Aquamarine
eXquire - Kismet: Blue Edition
Czarface
Cage - Kill The Architect
Freddie Gibbs - ESGN

[Nash Diesel]

Cage's new shit is awesome. Less enthusiastic as some of his previous work, but I dig the vibe of the entire record. You would think THIS record would be the one he made all drugged out and shit but naw, just a lot of weed lol, which probably explains why it feels very "trippy" as opposed to Movies or Hell's Winter.

[Fro]

Damn I left off about Czarface, a lot of early 2013 releases that I forgot to consider for the list.

Honestly surprised you have MMLP2 so high, but meh. To each his own.

Also wasn't really feeling Deltron.

MCHG is way better than some people act like it is. So many #Bangerz

No love for Old?

I've never gotten into Danny Brown. I listened to XXX and didn't really like his style. But let me know the dopest track off his new shit and I'll give it a listen.

[Bert]

I've never gotten into Danny Brown. I listened to XXX and didn't really like his style. But let me know the dopest track off his new shit and I'll give it a listen.

The first 9 songs are good. That's where he doesn't use that off-putting (for me) screechy high voice.

I do think that voice works for some songs (like Kush Coma) but a lot of the time it's just too much for me.

Just naming one track, I really like Gremlins though (and the movie Gremlins)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS1XZlEEplY


Listenin' to 2 Chainz, ain't thinkin' bout college
I wonder if he knew that 2 Chainz went to college

Who would have guessed?

[Clive Plasma]

Off to see Earl Sweatshirt in March. Anyone seen him before? Good live?

[son_of_foley]

This guy is enjoying Because The Internet.

[Bert]

Sof gets it.

That album is going to stay in my car on repeat for a long time.

[Fro]

http://fashionably-early.com/2014/01/06/common-war-prod-no-id/

Dope new Common song

[Bert]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WmMqi5PTt0

[G-Fresh]

AT fucks mad hoes.

[QuietStorm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRS7trzrFXM
Louis Logic's album, while short, was an under-looked album for 2013. No samples. Entirely self-produced. The guy who made "Sin-A-Matic". Good stuff.

Hey guys.

[son_of_foley]

Right so genuinely think Because The Internet is brilliant.

I loved Heartbeat and that sort of vibe he had in Camp so things like shadows and others are massively up my street.

Think it's a really good album but the hype about the marketing is a bit misleading right because the actually music itself doesn't seem that out there to me. I think it's a natural progression from camp. Havent watched the short film, mate tells me its really good but I dunno I want to enjoy the music on it's own.

[Bert]

Telegraph Ave should be on the radio everywhere. There's no reason that shouldn't be a smash hit.

The script does make the music make more sense.

If you haven't already listen to Centipede and Yaphet Kotto that came out before the album.

I'm so mad there's no STL date for the tour. And I don't really want to drive 4-5 hours to Kansas City.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwUug-ucBLc

[Bert]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J07UBlBeYPo

It's scary how accurate a comedic video is in comparison to Yeezus.

[MikeHunt]

It's amazing that anyone could describe that as comedy

[G-Fresh]

It ain't too bad.

[Fro]

I'm bored. 4 years in... Best hip hop albums of the 2010's?

1. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
2. How I Got Over
3. good kid, m.A.A.d city
4. Watch the Throne
5. Life is Good
6. Take Care
7. MMLP2
8. undun
9. Teflon Don
10. The Heist

Honorable mentions: Yeezus, Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty, Deltron Event II

[MikeHunt]

good kid would 100% be my number one by a million miles.

[Nash Diesel]

That Kendrick/Imagine Dragons performance that I caught last night was pretty wild. The more I hear of Kendrick the more I become one of those fans who think he's truly the next big thing people will be talking about for decades to come. Hopefully.

[son_of_foley]

I'm bored. 4 years in... Best hip hop albums of the 2010's?

1. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
2. How I Got Over
3. good kid, m.A.A.d city
4. Watch the Throne
5. Life is Good
6. Take Care
7. MMLP2
8. undun
9. Teflon Don
10. The Heist

Honorable mentions: Yeezus, Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty, Deltron Event II

You appear to have forgotten the heist. lolz.

Sir Ludcious, Run the Jewels and RAP music would all feature for me I think.

[Fro]

You appear to have forgotten the heist. lolz.

#10 bruh

[son_of_foley]

#10 bruh

I only read the top 5 of a top 10. The rest is filler.

#realtalk

[Fro]

Speaking of The Heist, here is Macklemore on his Grammy win for Best Rap Album:


First and foremost, Kendrick is a friend of mine. He’s somebody that I love his music and, in my opinion, had the best Rap album of the year. And knowing how the Grammys usually go, I knew that there would be a great chance that we’d win that award and, in essence, rob Kendrick. That’s what happened tonight. It kind of sucks. I think we made a great album. I think that Kendrick made a better Rap album.

He's a humble dude for sure. Most rap fans would agree with him about GKMC, but The Heist was pretty excellent too. I was listening to it today and the production is really superb. It stays light and radio friendly but doesn't sacrifice anything in the process, it's very well layered and fresh sounding. Macklemore isn't a very technically gifted rapper but he's a great writer in terms of creating a theme for a song and following through on it. Wings and Jimmy Iovine are the shit, in particular.

I was actually very surprised The Heist didn't win Album of the Year, I thought it was a shoe in to be the third hip hop album to win that category. I haven't listened to the Daft Punk album but that single with Pharrell that got all the hype is pretty terrible.

[Chris Scott]

I'm bored. 4 years in... Best hip hop albums of the 2010's?

1. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
2. How I Got Over
3. good kid, m.A.A.d city
4. Watch the Throne
5. Life is Good
6. Take Care
7. MMLP2
8. undun
9. Teflon Don
10. The Heist

Honorable mentions: Yeezus, Sir Lucious Left Foot: The Son of Chico Dusty, Deltron Event II

Jesus Piece at least on the honorable list no?

[Fro]

Nahhh I didn't care for Jesus Piece. The RED Album would be closer to an honorable mention

[Chris Scott]

Don't mind the RED Album but love JP a lot better.

[Ringo]

1 GKMC
2 Pilot Talk I
3 MBDTF
4 Yeezus
5 KRIT Wuz Here
6 Life Is Good
7 How I Got Over
8 Watch The Throne
9 Pilot Talk II
10 Mista Thug Isolation

Hon mentions: RAP Music + Run The Jewels because I really just have to be in the right mood.

[Fro]

Don't mind the RED Album but love JP a lot better.

I thought they both were really mediocre but RED at least has The City and Born in the Trap.

[Version 6]

I've been listening to quite a bit of Kerser lately. He's the best thing to happen to Aussie hip hop in pretty much forever.

He's from Campbeltown, which is about 40km from where I am now. Refreshing to hear an Aussie rapper who isn't ashamed to NOT be American.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4tDVhAmE_4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKNHvUPmzKU

[Bert]

Ugh, face tattoos.

[Version 6]

Yeah, horrid tats. But they guy is legit.

[Matthew]

i can't take him seriously

i just can't

[Nash Diesel]

I worked with a rapper named Trips out of Australia. If anyone is interested his bandcamp site is:

www.tripsmc.bandcamp.com

He's real good.

[MikeHunt]

I worked with a rapper named Trips out of Australia. If anyone is interested his bandcamp site is:

www.tripsmc.bandcamp.com (http://www.tripsmc.bandcamp.com)

He's real good.

I hope you had nothing to do with the god awful and dated production of the backing track.

[Stringer Bell]

Everything posted on this page so far :lol:

[Ringo]

yeah... dear oh dear.

[Version 6]

I don't really claim to be a hip hop aficionado so perhaps my standards are a bit low, but what's wrong with Kerser?

Other than the face tattoos of course.

[Nash Diesel]

I take most of the people in this thread's opinion with a grain of salt since most only prop up the most cornball mainstream shit out there but there are a few of these cats who actually know what good rap music is.

[MikeHunt]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

[G-Fresh]

I don't really claim to be a hip hop aficionado so perhaps my standards are a bit low, but what's wrong with Kerser?

Other than the face tattoos of course.

The accent throws me off.

[Bert]

Yeah, he's alright but I just can't get into non-American rap. :dunno:

[Psycho666Soldier]

Yeah, he's alright but I just can't get into non-American rap. :dunno:
Not a Doom fan, I take it? And no Slick Rick?

[G-Fresh]

I don't like much MF Doom, but I dig me some Slick Rick.

[Bert]

I don't know why you always have to contradict me lately, Psycho. Maybe that's just the Cewsh in you.

Doom sounds american. I'm not as big on him as some people though. I know who Slick Rick is and I know he sounds American too but I don't really know any of his music, or if I do I don't know it as being "by Slick Rick."

I'm saying I can't get into Tinie Tempah, Dizzee Rascal, Kano and whoever else.

I'm not saying any of them are bad rappers I'm just saying I can't into them. :dunno:

[MikeHunt]

I like loads of different artists from all over the world but there is something about Aussie rap that's jarring.

[MikeHunt]

I take most of the people in this thread's opinion with a grain of salt since most only prop up the most cornball mainstream shit out there but there are a few of these cats who actually know what good rap music is.

This cannot be glossed over btw.

[Ringo]

Will start posting links to new stuff for a while.

Here's the debut release from Isaiah Rashad on Top Dawg. Marketed as an EP but it's like 50 minutes long. Schoolboy Q & Jay Rock feature but no Kendrick.
http://www69.zippyshare.com/v/4844514/file.html

EP from Blu & Cookbook. Haven't listened to it but it's Blu so it's probably at least decent.
http://uploaded.net/file/899shm9p

Snippet from another track from Oxymoron. The five or so tracks we've heard so far are all great and this is sounding real good too. Album is going to be fairly ridiculous.
https://soundcloud.com/topdawgent/schoolboy-q-gangsta

Here's a link for the latest full song "Break The Bank" produced by Alchemist.
http://www.sharebeast.com/ha9ol36u0q6r

Also listened to the Alchemist + Evidence "Step Brothers" thing. Was a tad irritated by it to be honest. Will give it another go.

edit: Here's "Man Of The Year" as well in case anyone wanted it...
http://www.sharebeast.com/206dgrlia8cu

[Fro]

MF Doom and Slick Rick are American rappers you loon

[Ringo]

I assumed Psycho was pulling Bert's leg.

[G-Fresh]

Both were born in England.

[Fro]

By that logic Freddie Mercury was not British but Tanzanian and Martin Larwence is German

[G-Fresh]

I don't know. Were they naturalized?

[Fro]

If underground music is good enough it'll become mainstream and then I'll listen to it.

Kidding.

kinda

[G-Fresh]

I got no real beef with mainstream music. My beef is with commercial music. You can be underground and be a carbon copy of the commercial shit on the radio. Most underground music is exactly that. Fuck that shit. Or you could be the exact opposite and have mainstream appeal while keeping to your underground roots. I can respect that.

[Psycho666Soldier]

I know Doom grew up in America, but I had honestly thought Slick Rick spent a portion of his early career in England. I guess I was wrong there.

Honestly, I don't even think I know any non-American rappers in that case, unless you count Ninja from Die Antwoord.

[Nash Diesel]

I like loads of different artists from all over the world but there is something about Aussie rap that's jarring.

I haven't heard very many artists from there other than Kid Crusher and Trips, and their accents are too thick for me to dig everything they do. I just propped up Trips because people were talking about another rapper from his country. If you think my comment was directed toward you then that's on you, but there's no doubt that a lot of posts on here are people praising artists that are radio friendly bubblegum bullshit, mainstream or not, a lot of it flat out sucks.

[Matthew]

why don't you just name these artists you are calling bubblegum instead of dancing around it?

[Ringo]

fucking Marshall Mathers and his bubblegum teenie bopper raps

[Nash Diesel]

why don't you just name these artists you are calling bubblegum instead of dancing around it?

Rick Ross, Kanye West, Childish Gambino, Lil Wayne, Macklemore (older shit is good, modern day shit is whack), etc. The reason I "danced around" naming artists is because most people know what I'm referring to and I don't need to make a list of 50 artists just because a smart ass bitch like you can look stupid. Like you'd even dispute or intelligently respond to a gigantic list of artists I've seen posted on here that I personally think are weak, like you actually care what I think lol.

I'm serious Matthew, do you honestly give a shit what I think? Simple question.


fucking Marshall Mathers and his bubblegum teenie bopper raps

Yeah cuz he's the only dude that gets talked about......And to be honest, there's a lot of material that dude has put out since 2000 that panders to women and trendy hip hop fans who only buy what is marketed strong enough.

[Matthew]

i do give a shit, that is why i asked. i didn't see any need to skirt around it.

you just vaguely saying "bubblegum shit" without calling them right out just makes you look like a contrarian/troll.

lots of names have been thrown about. i wanted to know who you considered to be that 'bubblegum mainstream' shit.

i was genuinely wondering.

but of course, somehow, you are playing the victim.

[MikeHunt]

what should we be listening to nash diesel?

[Nash Diesel]

Tell you what Mike, everytime you post junk I'll make sure to be an over the top prick like you are about it :)

How about you NOT listen to shit like Drake, Kanye, Rick Ross, Mac Miller, any of that corny shit I see posted here? Do you listen to that shit? Idk, but since you think I'm aiming that original post toward you, how about picking up that new Necro/Kool G Rap? Or if you're a big nuthugger for whatever mainstream rap is shoved up your ass, say fuck whatever came out after 1999 and listen to some Liquid Swords or ATLiens?

Stray from the cornball shit, put on some Earl Sweatshirt or Flatbush Zombies or Rittz if you need to listen to something that isn't as rough as Necro (or as repetitive as that dude can be at times). Keep bumping the Kendrick Lamar, skip over the Childish Gambino and Drake records.

[Fro]

I think the "bubblegum rap" moniker could be put on Graduation-era Kanye but Yeezus is the exact opposite of what you're describing.

As for Drake, may I ask, do you find the entire R&B genre to be cornball shit? Are you capable of enjoying the likes of Frank Ocean, Alicia Keys etc?

[MikeHunt]

i asked a serious question and think you are aiming nothing at me. you're the one being a sensitive fool.

kendrick lamar and earl sweatshirt are both very very mainstream and flatbush zombies (despite being average) are about to break just look at the artists they've been working with.

kool g rap is the only "underground" artist you have mentioned that is any cop at all.

Rittz - absolute dogshit
Necro - even worse

"Underground" music really no longer exists i'm afraid to tell you. the way music is accessed make it basically impossible to be "underground" as the hype spreads so so quickly if an album/mixtape is even slightly good twitter, forums, facebook ect will tell you about it.

example of this being joey badass.

now back to your sensitive corner and stop accusing people of knowing nothing about music ect cause you produced some bollocks from Australia once.

[MikeHunt]

I think the "bubblegum rap" moniker could be put on Graduation-era Kanye but Yeezus is the exact opposite of what you're describing.

As for Drake, may I ask, do you find the entire R&B genre to be cornball shit? Are you capable of enjoying the likes of Frank Ocean, Alicia Keys etc?

DUDE YOUR IDEAS ARE TOTALLY WACK ABOUT MUSIC SHUT UP THEY AREN'T UNDERGROUND.

[Nash Diesel]

I think the "bubblegum rap" moniker could be put on Graduation-era Kanye but Yeezus is the exact opposite of what you're describing.

As for Drake, may I ask, do you find the entire R&B genre to be cornball shit? Are you capable of enjoying the likes of Frank Ocean, Alicia Keys etc?

Drake is R & B? That's news to me. I guess what I consider R & B sure as fuck doesn't include that shit. Frank Ocean is amazing btw.


i asked a serious question and think you are aiming nothing at me. you're the one being a sensitive fool.

kendrick lamar and earl sweatshirt are both very very mainstream and flatbush zombies (despite being average) are about to break just look at the artists they've been working with.

kool g rap is the only "underground" artist you have mentioned that is any cop at all.

Rittz - absolute dogshit
Necro - even worse

"Underground" music really no longer exists i'm afraid to tell you. the way music is accessed make it basically impossible to be "underground" as the hype spreads so so quickly if an album/mixtape is even slightly good twitter, forums, facebook ect will tell you about it.

example of this being joey badass.

now back to your sensitive corner and stop accusing people of knowing nothing about music ect cause you produced some bollocks from Australia once.

lol, I wasn't being sensitive at all son.

What's up with thinking I was saying ONLY LISTEN TO "UNDERGROUND" MUSIC MAN IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO GO!!

I'm talking about that corny ass shit that I listed and there's more than just what I listed that I find to be terrible or just mind blown that so many people are into it. I listen to a lot of artists, mainstream and "underground", but a lot of the shit that I see people getting all rock hard over is better suited for 15 year old high school girls. Substance is missing in a lot of mainstream music that gets overplayed and overhyped.


FYI, I never produced jack shit for Trips smart guy. I worked with him on a track, but that in no way implies I was the guy responsible for producing anything of his lol.

[MikeHunt]

lol, I wasn't being sensitive at all son.

What's up with thinking I was saying ONLY LISTEN TO "UNDERGROUND" MUSIC MAN IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO GO!!

I'm talking about that corny ass shit that I listed and there's more than just what I listed that I find to be terrible or just mind blown that so many people are into it. I listen to a lot of artists, mainstream and "underground", but a lot of the shit that I see people getting all rock hard over is better suited for 15 year old high school girls. Substance is missing in a lot of mainstream music that gets overplayed and overhyped.


FYI, I never produced jack shit for Trips smart guy. I worked with him on a track, but that in no way implies I was the guy responsible for producing anything of his lol.

what an absolute load of fucking bollocks mate.

think about what you are saying.

you worked with him on a track, doing what? care to share or do you not want to bring your music to the people of rajah.

[MikeHunt]

you're belting on like everyone in here is chatting about nicki minaj and macklemore.

they aren't.

edit - macklemore is a hip-pop artist by the way regardless of how you look at it. his music is created for the "mainstream" and aimed at a target audience of younger people. i assume that you aren't by the way that you speak and the self righteous bollocks that you are.

[Nash Diesel]

Macklemore is hip pop.....lol. So basically dumb ass cornball bubblegum rap that he chose to do because his original shit wasn't going anywhere. I dig his older material, more lyrical and not about appealing to a "larger audience" i.e. a bunch of dumb bitches who like to dance at the club to his shit.

Trips and I vocally collab'd on a song 4-5 years ago when I was draining the last drop of wanting to do something in music out of my blood and brain. Do I want to share my past with you fucking clowns? Nope. I'm sure someone can find it themselves, it isn't like you have to sift through a mountain of Iowa rappers to find my shit.

[Fro]

Drake is a rap/R&B hybrid. Sheesh is that really news to you? Have you listened to Take Care or do you just judge all these guys you're dismissing off their singles? Some of his songs are pure R&B, others are pure rap, most are combinations.

I am the only real champion of Drake in this thread so I actually wish we were a little more mainstream in that regard but that's fine because if you don't like the R&B aspect of his style then he's not going to be your cup of tea. I didn't like him at first either since Thank Me Later was pretty weak, but Take Care is brilliant. It will be very difficult for him or any other rap/R&B artist following in his footsteps to match it. It is just really wonderful to listen to someone who can do both the rap and the R&B as well as he can.

He also renegades pretty much any song he's featured on including that one with Kendrick and ASAP.

[MikeHunt]

Macklemore is hip pop.....lol. So basically dumb ass cornball bubblegum rap that he chose to do because his original shit wasn't going anywhere. I dig his older material, more lyrical and not about appealing to a "larger audience" i.e. a bunch of dumb bitches who like to dance at the club to his shit.

Trips and I vocally collab'd on a song 4-5 years ago when I was draining the last drop of wanting to do something in music out of my blood and brain. Do I want to share my past with you fucking clowns? Nope. I'm sure someone can find it themselves, it isn't like you have to sift through a mountain of Iowa rappers to find my shit.

What on earth is wrong with wanting to make money from your music?

kendrick has recently had a song with robin thicke does that mean he's completely mainstream? no of course not.

you have completely lost touch with music and i think you should probably give up trying to commentate on it as you are coming across as a fucking fool.


Drake is a rap/R&B hybrid. Sheesh is that really news to you? Have you listened to Take Care or do you just judge all these guys you're dismissing off their singles? Some of his songs are pure R&B, others are pure rap, most are combinations.

I am the only real champion of Drake in this thread so I actually wish we were a little more mainstream in that regard but that's fine because if you don't like the R&B aspect of his style then he's not going to be your cup of tea. I didn't like him at first either since Thank Me Later was pretty weak, but Take Care is brilliant. It will be very difficult for him or any other rap/R&B artist following in his footsteps to match it. It is just really wonderful to listen to someone who can do both the rap and the R&B as well as he can.

He also renegades pretty much any song he's featured on including that one with Kendrick and ASAP.

drakes last two albums are total dynamite. his verse on poetic justice is one of my favorite parts of the kendrick album.

[Nash Diesel]

Drake is fucking terrible, the shit I've heard is terrible. The most recent shit I heard was a track that had Wu Tang in the title, and I'm thinking shit this might be something that sounds like Wu Tang, nope, complete fucking garbage.

Mike, there's absolutely nothing wrong with making money but when you have to go full retard and dumb down your shit just so you can finally get a major deal, it's hard for me to get down with that. If you sit down and go "I'm not making anything off what I want to do and what I want my music to sound like so I'm going to flip it up and make it more corny so the dumb shits who listen to Drake and Kanye like my album." Fuck that. Keep it real.

I'm a 90's child so to speak when it comes to a lot of music, I didn't grow up listening to a lot of mainstream rap music in the 80's and 90's so really in the last 5-6 years I've become familiar with a lot stuff that I feel bad for missing out on. Most of that is because when i try to get down with what the majority are bumping, it sounds like shit.

[Nash Diesel]

You are probably right, I'm 32 years old and probably entering that "My generation was way better than today's" club that I dreaded growing up when people would brag about how great Motley Crue is and I'm listening to the Deftones and Cypress Hill. Now I'm that guy, who has a hard time accepting whatever it is you kids are praising (Drake, Rick Ross, A$AP Rocky) and falling into that trap. Still doesn't change my opinion though that there is a lot of corny shit you guys praise. And the same could be said about my personal tastes.

[Bert]

I'm talking about that corny ass shit that I listed and there's more than just what I listed that I find to be terrible or just mind blown that so many people are into it. I listen to a lot of artists, mainstream and "underground", but a lot of the shit that I see people getting all rock hard over is better suited for 15 year old high school girls. Substance is missing in a lot of mainstream music that gets overplayed and overhyped.




kendrick lamar and earl sweatshirt are both very very mainstream and flatbush zombies (despite being average) are about to break just look at the artists they've been working with.

Rittz - absolute dogshit

"Underground" music really no longer exists i'm afraid to tell you. the way music is accessed make it basically impossible to be "underground" as the hype spreads so so quickly if an album/mixtape is even slightly good twitter, forums, facebook ect will tell you about it.

If you think there's no substance to Because The Internet then you either didn't listen to it or you need your ears checked.

Earl is overrated. I like Flatbush Zombies. I liked Rittz album and Tech's latest one.

Underground still exists, music that gets played on the radio is Mainstream. Music that doesn't is Underground. Simple distinction really.

Mac Miller's latest album is actually generally regarded as being pretty good.

Some people just have some preconceived notions and are afraid to be open minded when they listen to an album. It's a shame really.

Nobody listens to Wayne still. The Heist was really fucking good and I don't care if it was "bubblegum rap." Kendrick is great. Rick Ross is a phony and I can't stand him.

I'm done with Kanye until he goes back to making good stuff like Graduation.



Really though and this goes for everyone in the thread if you don't like what I or someone else posts, then instead of bitching about it just post music you do like. :eek: Crazy idea, right?

[MikeHunt]

you're an actual idiot, there's no point in continuing this conversation.

this is summed up by the "fuck that, keep it real" part of that post.

also speak fucking english like you do everywhere else on the forum. why do you insist on talking like a 90's teen sitcom?

[Fro]

Rick Ross may be a phony but Teflon Don is a top 5 riding around in a car in summer with the windows down album. The others are Doggystyle, 2001, Graduation and Lord Willin

[MikeHunt]

If you think there's no substance to Because The Internet then you either didn't listen to it or you need your ears checked.

Earl is overrated. I like Flatbush Zombies. I liked Rittz album and Tech's latest one.

Underground still exists, music that gets played on the radio is Mainstream. Music that doesn't is Underground. Simple distinction really.

Mac Miller's latest album is actually generally regarded as being pretty good.

Some people just have some preconceived notions and are afraid to be open minded when they listen to an album. It's a shame really.

Nobody listens to Wayne still. The Heist was really fucking good and I don't care if it was "bubblegum rap." Kendrick is great. Rick Ross is a phony and I can't stand him.

I'm done with Kanye until he goes back to making good stuff like Graduation.



Really though and this goes for everyone in the thread if you don't like what I or someone else posts, then instead of bitching about it just post music you do like. :eek: Crazy idea, right?

nobody still listens to the fucking radio. that has no relevance to how people access music. bert i actually know about this shit as i spent 4 years studying it. people do not access music in the same way anymore. an unsigned artist can become the biggest star over night due to the impact of social media and the way we access media in general.

go and read the distribution of independent content from the book the long tail and look at the points raised regarding digital media.

[Bert]

They can become a one hit wonder due to social media but I don't consider that the "biggest star."

People in the US still listen to the radio, even if it's XM or Sirius. I know that people listen to Spotify too and I would include that with the radio since their top list is always songs played on the radio.

[MikeHunt]

spotify is absolutely not radio.

people obviously still listen to radio but it is not the way people access music generally any more. again i studied this for 4 years bert and know what im talking about. figures for radio have been declining since the late 90's and digital music was starting to pick up.

[Fro]

I would say there haven't been many one hit wonder rappers since the digital revolution. Who was the last big one? I'm sure there have been some more recent ones but I just keep thinking Teach Me How to Dougie

[Bert]

Young Thug. Also YG.

[Nash Diesel]

I have a rap friend that I lean on for the latest. He'll text me 40 some odd youtube video links to everything from Tommy Hilfiger's son to Flatbush to the new Earl Sweatshirt and all of that Odd Future shit. He loves everything rap, no matter how corny or rugged. I'm a fan of what I'm a fan of, simple as that.

Mikey I dig the whole "you post like a 90's sitcom" or whatever, that was pretty rad.

[Matthew]

soulja boy

right? he hasn't really done anything since that superman shit, right?

[MikeHunt]

in this thread you do talk like a fucking 90's sitcom you dont anywhere else. its annoying please stop it.

[Nash Diesel]

I honestly never really noticed it, maybe because I got a little too amped up about the topic we were on. A little too colorful apparently.

[Bert]

Well Nash Iowan, we're all fans of artists we're fans of. That's a pretty fucking redundant statement.

The problem is you trying to say that we're all brainwashed and listen to music for "15 year old high school girls."

And then backpedalling when we challenge you on this dumb opinion.

[Nash Diesel]

Well Nash Iowan, we're all fans of artists we're fans of. That's a pretty fucking redundant statement.

The problem is you trying to say that we're all brainwashed and listen to music for "15 year old high school girls."

And then backpedalling when we challenge you on this dumb opinion.


First off, go back to my original post where I said MOST people, if you fall into that category then I can understand your frustration. As I told MikeHunt, from now on when I see something posted that's corny as fuck, I'm going to blow up about it like he does so I'm not challenged to make lists of who what when where and why as it pertains to a generalized comment. That way someone like matthew doesn't have to troll so hard (victim card).

Second, where was I backpedalling? I've stood my ground 110%, everyone I've shit on I haven't retracted from the music they put out that I feel sucks. Macklemore's new shit is junk compared to his older material that I was a fan of, Drake is garbage, Rick Ross sucks, Kanye hasn't put out anything of quality other than beats since his first record (a point I made awhile back when everyone was praising his newest album).

I made the comment about we're all fans of who were are fans of because it's become a pissing contest that's just going around in circles and getting a little too negative, partially my fault for dogging people's interests the way I did so brutally at times (see above). So again, if you took offense to me saying that most of the people, not all, but most are on here praising fucking Drake of all people while bashing other quality artists, that's why I take certain opinions with a grain of salt. Cry about it.

[MikeHunt]

how do i blow up on people in this thread?

you talk total shit.

bert is wrong about gambino and simon likes shite uk rap. thats about the only two disagreements i've ever had in this thread you fucking gump.

[Matthew]

still bringing me up, eh?

i asked a question. you cried and answered. that was all i wanted to know, what you considered to be 'bubblegum'

sorry i asked you for your opinion. didn't know that was something you would cry about.

[Nash Diesel]

still bringing me up, eh?

i asked a question. you cried and answered. that was all i wanted to know, what you considered to be 'bubblegum'

sorry i asked you for your opinion. didn't know that was something you would cry about.

lmao. 44,000 posts later he's still crying.

[Matthew]

so now you are trying to imitate me

flattered

except, you know, you are actually trolling, while i just asked a question. nice hypocrisy.

[Nash Diesel]

how do i blow up on people in this thread?

you talk total shit.

bert is wrong about gambino and simon likes shite uk rap. thats about the only two disagreements i've ever had in this thread you fucking gump.

Does the shift key not work on you guys' keyboards?

I wasn't saying on this thread, just in general you respond like that dude who was about to kill himself over Batista winning the Rumble. Everything always has to be an insult with you and half the time I'm not even sure what you are even talking about.

[Fro]

First off, go back to my original post where I said MOST people, if you fall into that category then I can understand your frustration. As I told MikeHunt, from now on when I see something posted that's corny as fuck, I'm going to blow up about it like he does so I'm not challenged to make lists of who what when where and why as it pertains to a generalized comment. That way someone like matthew doesn't have to troll so hard (victim card).

Second, where was I backpedalling? I've stood my ground 110%, everyone I've shit on I haven't retracted from the music they put out that I feel sucks. Macklemore's new shit is junk compared to his older material that I was a fan of, Drake is garbage, Rick Ross sucks, Kanye hasn't put out anything of quality other than beats since his first record (a point I made awhile back when everyone was praising his newest album).

I made the comment about we're all fans of who were are fans of because it's become a pissing contest that's just going around in circles and getting a little too negative, partially my fault for dogging people's interests the way I did so brutally at times (see above). So again, if you took offense to me saying that most of the people, not all, but most are on here praising fucking Drake of all people while bashing other quality artists, that's why I take certain opinions with a grain of salt. Cry about it.

I think your dismissal of a blatantly talented artist like Drake as trash shows that you have some of the worst tunnel vision of any of us. Being skewed towards the underground is just as bad as being skewed towards the mainstream. And I have not bashed any artists in this discussion. You are the one who has done that by far the most.

[MikeHunt]

Does the shift key not work on you guys' keyboards?

I wasn't saying on this thread, just in general you respond like that dude who was about to kill himself over Batista winning the Rumble. Everything always has to be an insult with you and half the time I'm not even sure what you are even talking about.

sorry i'll go and watch a box set of saved by the bell and read some goosebumps novels and maybe you will understand what i am talking about.

[Ringo]

This is good. O.C. & Ray West tape.

http://images.junostatic.com/full/CS513485-01A-BIG.jpg

http://uploaded.net/file/cl9w8tkk

[Stringer Bell]

I know who Slick Rick is and I know he sounds American too but I don't really know any of his music, or if I do I don't know it as being "by Slick Rick."


Jesus Bert I almost fell out of my chair reading this. In all fairness, Slick Rick does have one of the heaviest British accents amongst successful US rappers.

But, stop what you're doing right now. And go download The Great Adventures of Slick Rick. Seriously. Spend the weekend taking it in. It's a masterpiece.

[QuietStorm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGOt8dZRsHk
Bert, being a Chamillionaire fan surely you've heard this jam? And yes, do download The Great Adventures of Slick Rick. Legend.

[Bert]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_9U-zkEPAI



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGOt8dZRsHk
Bert, being a Chamillionaire fan surely you've heard this jam? And yes, do download The Great Adventures of Slick Rick. Legend.

Yeah, I have heard that song before.

[G-Fresh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNA7mFx9tOw

Too bad Murs has turned into a faggot cheerleader.

[Bert]

That's a good signing. I haven't heard a lot of his stuff but I might have to seek it out now.

[G-Fresh]

His older stuff is really good. He's just taken the gay shit too far.

[G-Fresh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R03p_FGqULs

[Ringo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Omix295NOdI

[Bert]

Danny Brown's twitter rant from yesterday:

Seriously thought quit Po would make a everything better ... Shit just making me sink deeper in depression to be honest ..
— Danny Brown (@xdannyxbrownx) February 10, 2014

I can't sleep my anxiety is at an all time high but don't none of y'all care about that shit .. Y'all just want me to be goofy
— Danny Brown (@xdannyxbrownx) February 10, 2014

Fuck u if u was suppose to be my rapper friend and I gotta call ya assistant just to get in touch wit u
— Danny Brown (@xdannyxbrownx) February 10, 2014

Fuck u if u tried to do a song with me just to try to steal my fan base
— Danny Brown (@xdannyxbrownx) February 10, 2014

Fuck all this rap shit it's fake ... Niggas pretend homies not one of these niggas a come to my funeral
— Danny Brown (@xdannyxbrownx) February 10, 2014

I deserve better than this ... I rap better than all you niggas!!!!!! ... I don't give a fuck who u think u is .. I will body you!!!!
— Danny Brown (@xdannyxbrownx) February 10, 2014

Depression is serious y'all think I do drugs cause it's fun ... I would no other way to escape  — Danny Brown (@xdannyxbrownx) February 10, 2014
Nobody cares if I live or die .. That's the bottom line .. Y'all want me to overdose just don't be surprised when u get what u asked for
— Danny Brown (@xdannyxbrownx) February 10, 2014

Maybe if i die id get the props i deserved yo u know
— Danny Brown (@xdannyxbrownx) February 10, 2014

i mean shit … all the rappers i look up to this i suck or think I'm a wierdo or some shit
— Danny Brown (@xdannyxbrownx) February 10, 2014

my favorite rapper is Nas .. all i want more than anything is to hear him tell me "I'm dope"but nah he likes Big Sean and Tyler the creator
— Danny Brown (@xdannyxbrownx) February 10, 2014

all this shit I'm talking and one person besides family hit me up to see if I'm ok .. and thats Donald Glover i love him that forever
— Danny Brown (@xdannyxbrownx) February 10, 2014

all you other niggas fake as fuck tho
— Danny Brown (@xdannyxbrownx) February 10, 2014

I seem to remember someone (most likely MikeHunt) trying to say they weren't actually friends. Well there you go.

I think Danny's ok now though he just needed to vent.

[Nash Diesel]

Jesus Christ, somebody give this "hard ass rapper" a hug from yours truly. Fuckin cry me a river, do you how many rappers/artists in general never get the praise from their idols? I remember Fred Durst being really butt hurt when one of his fave bands, Deftones, took a shit on Limp Bizkit during the Summer Sanitarium tour. Trust me, there'd be nothing more left to do in my life if GZA the Genius praised my music but I'm not going to cry about it on twitter. Danny Brown, really good rapper, but do you think NAS would be crying on twitter about his life? Social media is a double edged sword.

[MikeHunt]

Why would I of said they weren't friends? I have no idea about such things. What I do remember saying was that I thought it was strange they were touring together.

[Bert]

MURS gave Sway a present while he was there.
http://i.imgur.com/ja5s05z.png

[G-Fresh]

I'll guarantee he will be with Tech at the GotJ this year. He's a juggalo so I reckon he'll be off the chain. He does a cover of Chicken Huntin at his live shows.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTKI-23c1IM

[Stringer Bell]

Hope Danny is alright. All that heavy drug use a lot of these guys partake in has to take a toll, hopefully he pushes through. It really sucked to see him say "fuck adidas".. I would be mad too about 2 Chainz getting a shoe over him, but damn. Their partnership had literally just started and it could've grown into something great. Come on Danny. :cry:

For you Tech fans, his episode on the Combat Jack show podcast last week was really good. He seems like a genuinely great dude. Haven't gotten around to the Juan Epstein episode yet.

[JRSlim21]

I'm shocked no one posted this but De La Soul is giving away for free their main discography away online. Every album except the Grind Date can be downloaded off their website for free in honor of 25 years since their debut album. You have until noon EST; it started at 11am EST (because 25 hours....)

[Bert]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re7g7wOB6OA

Maybe sof will like this too. :dunno:

[son_of_foley]

its removed :( assuming gambino

[Ringo]

So Oxymoron is pretty disappointing. I mean, it's still really good all in all - but I was anticipating a bit of a modern classic.

[Fro]

I downloaded it last night but haven't listened yet. That said, I was never expecting a modern classic from Schoolboy Q. He doesn't strike me as someone capable of that.

[Ringo]

All the singles are just so awesome - if that standard was kept up throughout the album it'd have been quite something. There's a couple of killer tracks we hadn't heard before but for the most part they don't match "Yay Yay", "Collard Greens", "Break The Bank" and "Man Of The Year".

[Bert]

its removed :( assuming gambino
You assume correctly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB7q-QyX3hI

I listened to Oxymoron. I don't hate it and I still get Man of The Year stuck in my head but I doubt it will stay in rotation for very long. The only song I outright don't like is Prescription/Oxymoron because I find the ad libs so damn annoying.

[Ringo]

hey sof!

http://funkyimg.com/i/G4Yb.jpg

http://www48.zippyshare.com/v/52735222/file.html

[son_of_foley]

hey sof!

http://funkyimg.com/i/G4Yb.jpg

http://www48.zippyshare.com/v/52735222/file.html

I DONT KNOW WHAT TO THINK.

Enjoy the vibes but not sure it's for me. Maybe MOTM III will be it for me.

What you think?

[son_of_foley]

The Pharrell album is streaming. Liking it. It's pure pop though. No real hip hop features which is a bit dissapointing but it's still the same production which buzzes my balls

http://soundisstyle.com/2014/02/pharrell-girl-album-stream.html

[Bert]

I played Satellite Flight through on Audiosurf 2 like I've been doing with every new album since I bought the game. So good. I'm not usually a big instrumental fan but I really enjoy the ones on this EP.

It's got some crazy track patterns in the game too.

http://i.imgur.com/qth00Yw.jpgp
http://i.imgur.com/ryGAOc0.jpg

Cringeworthy video of the day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unRldLdllZ8

[Nash Diesel]

Finally getting around to Action Bronson's Blue Chips mixtapes and I STILL can't shake the Ghostface voice. I listen to it and keep thinking it's Ghostface, makes it worse when i've been listening to old Wu Tang recently lol. Dude can rap, but his voice is just too identical.

[Psycho666Soldier]

Haven't had the chance to keep up on new releases and such over the last month or two. Anything not-Gambino I should be aware of?


Finally getting around to Action Bronson's Blue Chips mixtapes and I STILL can't shake the Ghostface voice. I listen to it and keep thinking it's Ghostface, makes it worse when i've been listening to old Wu Tang recently lol. Dude can rap, but his voice is just too identical.

The voice doesn't really bother me that much(I think he sounds worse than Ghostface), but his flow on every track I've ever heard him is so fucking weak. Like, the lyrics can range from good to great, he almost always has a sick beat underneath him, but I can't STAND his flow. Haven't given the Blue Chips mixtapes a listen, but I get the strong feeling my opinion won't change.

[son_of_foley]

I'm really getting into Satellite flight now. Chilled the fuck out. Had a nice glass of Remy and just blasted this last night

[MikeHunt]

New kendrick album confirmed by tde for September release! Time to wish my ear years away

[Ringo]

Haven't had the chance to keep up on new releases and such over the last month or two. Anything not-Gambino I should be aware of?

You should certainly listen to Oxymoron if you haven't already. Disappointing perhaps, but still a damn solid album with a few massive tunes.

Half way through Mastermind as we speak. Fuck. The beats on this record! Fantastic and I've still got the Kanye/Mustard and Weeknd tracks to come. :hyper: Scarface & Z-Ro on a bonus track. "No Games" isn't on this either but will presumably appear on Future's when it eventually drops.

Hearing loads of good things about that new Doppelgangaz album but I haven't got round to it yet.

And Satellite Flight sounded nice on first listen. I'll have a little late night Cudi sesh later. :cool:

[Nash Diesel]

Haven't had the chance to keep up on new releases and such over the last month or two. Anything not-Gambino I should be aware of?



The voice doesn't really bother me that much(I think he sounds worse than Ghostface), but his flow on every track I've ever heard him is so fucking weak. Like, the lyrics can range from good to great, he almost always has a sick beat underneath him, but I can't STAND his flow. Haven't given the Blue Chips mixtapes a listen, but I get the strong feeling my opinion won't change.

That Gambino line made me LOL, dude is terrible yet I always see people posting about his work around here.

With Bronson I've learned that basically nothing of his that he puts out will stop me from automatically associating his voice/flow with Ghostface. I couldn't make it through the entire mixtape because it all sounded the exact same lyrically, flow-wise. Beats were sick but nothing you wouldn't hear on about 800 other dudes from the East Coast.

[Bert]

That Gambino line made me LOL, dude is terrible yet I always see people posting about his work around here.

He's streets ahead of anything you could come up with, MISTER WAX.

[Nash Diesel]

He's streets ahead of anything you could come up with, MISTER WAX.

You sound like those cats on Facebook who say shit like "I don't know why you're saying this MMA fighter is a can, he'd beat your ass any day of the week."

My mic has been retired for some time, don't make me dust that bitch off and serve you like I was Sam Jackson reciting biblical excerpts.

I'm joking, I'm terrible, downright shit, and have no place as a fan to say someone is garbage or not. :)

Edit: I see MikeHunt lurking already, can't wait for this......

[Ringo]

gambino > ICP though.

[Nash Diesel]

Hmmm. I'll say this:

ICP 1992-1996>Gambino>ICP 1997-whatever they do now. Is it a crime to have been a fan of ICP 15 years ago?

I'm more of an Esham/NATAS guy, but again, pre-1999, not feeling anything since. Let's just say I'm probably not a fan of 89% of the music that's came out by any artist since 1999. Everything is hit or miss, even people I idolize like GZA the Genius or Mastamind, they have put out some stanky records since the 90's.

[Bert]

You repped me saying it was mr. not mister but your album cover disagrees.

http://i.imgur.com/yDJ2ir5.png

Some guy in russia really likes you though so I guess there's that.
http://i.imgur.com/DGc2lNn.png

Some of the stuff isn't completely terrible but your voice isn't very likable.

I found the bandcamp for your 2012 album and it sounds worse than your old stuff which is kind of weird.

It doesn't seem like you've put anything out since then though. Giving up on the dream?

[Nash Diesel]

Props to Russia lol.

Yeah I gave up on "the dream" before I even recorded Terror Campaign. I used to say to people "Why record something and put it out there if you don't have any real intentions on going somewhere above and beyond with it" but then I realized that the business side of things and the pressure to appeal to a larger audience wasn't something I was willing to put effort into doing so basically the last 5-7 years I just never applied my full potential. I became the Joe Riggs of rap. So who knows, maybe a year or 2 from now when I'm in my mid 30's I'll put out something again but the days of actually trying to do something MORE than just record and have people put it out there for my friends, family, and Russian fans, those days are dead.

Still doesn't change the fact that Gambino is garbage to my ears.

[Nash Diesel]

And just to show how little I care about my music, I didn't even remember that the guy who did some of my artwork would flip it up and put MISTER and MR on the covers lol. I always hated the name, because it was a play on "grave wax" but then I thought, shit, this is probably a name used by 1,000 DJ's. Plus I would always get people thinking I was this white dude from the East Coast (I think) who had all these e-beefs and so after my group disbanded I changed the name.

[Bert]

Still doesn't change the fact that Gambino is garbage to my ears.

Which doesn't really bother me because you said yourself you don't like anything made after 1999.

You don't even like the popular rap that everyone likes nowadays like Kendrick Lamar, Danny Brown, etc.

I don't understand Mike Hunt's hate for him however. I still think it's a refusal to be open minded.

I've seen a lot of posts on kanyetothe of people saying they hated him and this album is what changed their minds.

[G-Fresh]

gambino > ICP though.

Quit huffing paint thinner.

[Nash Diesel]

Which doesn't really bother me because you said yourself you don't like anything made after 1999.

You don't even like the popular rap that everyone likes nowadays like Kendrick Lamar, Danny Brown, etc.

I don't understand Mike Hunt's hate for him however. I still think it's a refusal to be open minded.

I've seen a lot of posts on kanyetothe of people saying they hated him and this album is what changed their minds.

I actually just listened to Danny Browns "Old" today and I liked most of it. I think hes on a Random Axe album I have, good shit. Kendrick can bring it as well, I dont think hes the greatest but he stands out because imo there are a ton of garbage rappers out there. The flipside is there are even more that arent shit, mainstream, underground, theres room for everyone.

[G-Fresh]

Kendrick is wackness. Dope lyrics, but his voice is awful.

[MikeHunt]

I actually just listened to Danny Browns "Old" today and I liked most of it. I think hes on a Random Axe album I have, good shit. Kendrick can bring it as well, I dont think hes the greatest but he stands out because imo there are a ton of garbage rappers out there. The flipside is there are even more that arent shit, mainstream, underground, theres room for everyone.

we have been over this before and there is no such thing as an underground artist anymore.

[Nash Diesel]

we have been over this before and there is no such thing as an underground artist anymore.

Sure there is. I'm not even sure how you came to that conclusion. Would you consider someone unsigned, no radio play, no music videos anywhere, and sells 1,000 cds in a year off doing shows and promoting through Facebook that does a cross between AntiChrist Superstar and Esham style music a mainstream artist? That's a little elaborate but come on man. I'm actually interested in why you think that, no bullshit needed.

I also want to add that I think that being an underground artist is a frame of mind if you choose to stay at that level. Some call it "indie" but I think there's even a level lower than that where there's no middle man of any kind, the connection between the artist and the fan might be a website or a show. That's it. Just because you have the ability to get your music to the masses easier in today's world does not make you "mainstream".

[MikeHunt]

Selling 1000 CDs is not underground. Music is rarely digested via a physical format at this time. There is no underground due to this simple fact, as soon as an artist places a song online everyone with an internet connection can access it.

Nothing to do with if someone is signed, if they've made a video ect anymore. As an act you view as underground could be massive on the other side of the planet and you wouldn't know.

There is simply the heard and unheard now.

[MikeHunt]

Which doesn't really bother me because you said yourself you don't like anything made after 1999.

You don't even like the popular rap that everyone likes nowadays like Kendrick Lamar, Danny Brown, etc.

I don't understand Mike Hunt's hate for him however. I still think it's a refusal to be open minded.

I've seen a lot of posts on kanyetothe of people saying they hated him and this album is what changed their minds.

Refusal to be open minded cause I think your boyfriend is rubbish. Foolish

[Nash Diesel]

Selling 1000 CDs is not underground. Music is rarely digested via a physical format at this time. There is no underground due to this simple fact, as soon as an artist places a song online everyone with an internet connection can access it.

Nothing to do with if someone is signed, if they've made a video ect anymore. As an act you view as underground could be massive on the other side of the planet and you wouldn't know.

There is simply the heard and unheard now.

They CAN get their hands on it but that doesn't mean they WILL get their hands on it.

If you're acknowledging that there used to be a time when you could say "this artist is an underground artist", the same rules would apply. If you're underground 20 years ago and sell cassette tapes out of the trunk of your car, then you should be able to say No, you're not underground because you made a tape/cd of your music and even though it's not in a store, I could maybe one day get my hands on it or a friend could have it and I'd hear it, have them make me a copy. Sorry that was a long sentence or something lol.

And also, I think that there's a mentality to being underground. You're not hearing artists that make music like Katy Perry or the Jonas Brothers being considered "underground" music.

Those kind of artists, these manufactured artists, they won't be the ones you hear about handing out fliers and handling their own merch, cd duplication, artwork, tours. I guess it's like if you've heard the term "mom and pop store", and then you have your mainstream stores, your big businesses. I feel once a major label picks you up, you're in every cd store, itunes store and the like, if you're performing at the Grammy's with Britney Spears or whatever, that's a mainstream artist. Just like there's rich, poor, there's nobody saying you're not poor you just haven't acquired all of the money in the world.

[MikeHunt]

Right I see your point but it's not widely accepted anymore. I have studied music at university and there was a whole module surrounding this particularly regarding metal and hiphop and the fact both used to have a rather popular underground scene relating to cities, states and countries and how these things don't exist anymore due to the way music is digested.

[Nash Diesel]

Come to my city and I'll introduce you to the underground that still lives and breathes. There's more DIY (do it yourself) bands/artists that don't rely on big distribution deals and major label support everywhere, not just in my city or yours, but everywhere. If you're on that Lil Wayne, Katy Perry level, you're mainstream. If you're on that Necro, Index Case level, you're underground. And I think there are people who choose to be underground, who choose to avoid major labels (or record labels in general) and do it themselves and make money and go on tours here and there.

I don't see the connection between how music is "digested" in one era versus another and how that eliminates the idea that an underground music scene exists. Just because it's a more digital age doesn't really matter because you could be big in Ukraine but that doesn't mean you're MAINSTREAM like Metallica or Nickelback. Like I said, it's also a mentality, as I feel that there are artists who are unsigned that are not UNDERGROUND artists because they're striving to be like Britney Spears or Taylor Swift or 50 Cent with the style they're doing. It's open for interpretation for sure, I don't think there's a right or wrong in this discussion.

[MikeHunt]

Correct it's complete subjective however music theorists and sociologists would disagree. My view point is probably a bit dated as well with regards to the ever changing nature of music.

[son_of_foley]

Too Bad I Have To Destroy You Now on Satellite Flight is fucking stupendous. That is all.

[Ringo]

:yes:

Also: http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2014/03/lupe-fiasco-ft-ab-soul-horns-thorns

Lupe might not be done just yet.

edit: oh and this unofficial video for Devil Is A Lie is amazing!

http://vimeo.com/82985780

[Bert]

Rick Ross still does nothing for me. He'll always be a one hit wonder in my eyes.

[Fro]

His one hit being... BMF?

I've said this before but the whole Teflon Don album is awesome. It's mostly fluff but it's awesome fluff.

[Bert]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU9TouRnO84

Go give an update on mafia.

[Fro]

shit was hot but the remix was hotter

[Ringo]

Mastermind is great!

[JRSlim21]

Mastermind > Satellite Flight.

[Bert]

No fucking way.

[son_of_foley]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NlpK7XIO3I

I know Chance himself is on the edge of what is hip hop right but he's got a new song with Skrillex and it's properly fucking summer.This is resting your balls on an ice cream with a beer in hand

[MikeHunt]

Reminds me of so,etching Andre 3000 would do. Nice wee summer tune as you say

[Nash Diesel]

I know it's not hot off the shelf new but is Earl Sweatshirt's "Doris" one of the best albums to drop in the last couple years for rap music? A dude put it up on youtube like the day before it was supposed to drop and ever since then I've listened to it frequently, top notch.

[Bert]

I was let down by it. Summer Knights is way better.

[Nash Diesel]

Checking it out right now

[Ringo]

Yeah I liked Doris. Chum and Hive are massive.

[MikeHunt]

just been listening to YC the Cynic - GNK. belter of an album.

[Ringo]

PINATA LEAKED.

http://funkyimg.com/i/Gjmt.jpg

https://disk.yandex.com/public/?hash=UB0GSHqpdsYi0bh1ZJISdBWxvaKN4nDI4KN5Hc8/zMg%3D

omg.

[G-Fresh]

Good lookin out.

[Stringer Bell]

Pinata is my favorite album of the year so far and easily my favorite since Danny Brown's Old. I love every single track. Already preordered a hard copy.

[Ringo]

Yeah, going to have to be a hell of an album to beat this for my hip-hop AOTY.

[Stringer Bell]

Can one of you bros do me a solid and upload the single mp3 of Tech N9ne feat. Danny Brown - Thizzles? Bert? DVDA? I'd really appreciate it.

[Bert]

Google it and add share beast at the end and if you can't find it I'm upload it when I get home.

[Bert]

https://soundcloud.com/jonconnormusic/jon-connor-connor-season

#ConnorSeason

[Bert]

Can one of you bros do me a solid and upload the single mp3 of Tech N9ne feat. Danny Brown - Thizzles? Bert? DVDA? I'd really appreciate it.

Here.

http://www.sharebeast.com/w0kd2clw0qc8

I used to hate that hook so much but now it gets stuck in my head all the time.

Oh and ATTN: Thread.

You should all download Quiz Up it's a trivia app for Android and iPhones.

They have Hip Hop trivia and it's fun. I'm IceySubzero.

[Bert]

Jon Connor - The Late Registration Of A College Dropout Who Had A Dark Twisted Fantasy Of 808s And Heartbreak
http://i.imgur.com/5Tc6MkI.jpg
Notice there's no mention of Yeezus because that album is fucking garbage.

http://www.datpiff.com/Jon-Connor-The-Late-Registration-of-a-College-Dropout-Who-Had-mixtape.592179.html

[Fro]

That mixtape title is fucking garbage... but I will peep game. I liked his Eminem mixtape, I think about 6 of the tracks stuck on my iPhone.

[Bert]

The other title Best In The World is better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh3_YY3GGUY
Better than the original.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADmT00H6CE8
I want a release date for the next fucking album.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVe_NPWGt9c
#bars

I still listen to that Snow Tha Product mixtape Good Nights & Bad Mornings. Apparently Tech N9ne called her to sign her but the day before she had already signed with Atlantic. Damn.

[G-Fresh]

Hopsin, Da Mafia 6ix, Dizzy Wright, & Jarren Benton have been announced for the GotJ this year.

[G-Fresh]

In a recent interview with Darkside Newz, DJ Paul released some very interesting news. During the interview DJ Paul was answering questions about the Gathering of the Juggalos when he stated that Da Mafia 6ix and Insane Clown Posse have plans on recording a collaborative album together.

That would be cool.

[Clive Plasma]

I know it's not hot off the shelf new but is Earl Sweatshirt's "Doris" one of the best albums to drop in the last couple years for rap music? A dude put it up on youtube like the day before it was supposed to drop and ever since then I've listened to it frequently, top notch.

Off to see him tonight in Brixton. Looking forward to it.

[G-Fresh]

G-Mo Skee is sick

I'm throwin more tantrums stranglin whores with a plastic bag and havin orgasms but I recycle so I'ma use the same plastic bag to kill every fag that made Macklemore platinum


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E-CJTEfoxk&feature=youtu.be

[Clive Plasma]

A guy called Bishop Nehru supported tonight. Pretty good vibe to him. Worth checking out.

https://soundcloud.com/bishopnehru

[Bert]

G-Mo Skee sounds like Hopsin + Vinnie Paz.

Kung Fu Vampire sounds like Mac Lethal.

[Nash Diesel]

Kung Fu Vampire, not a fan of his music at all but I dig his live band. He came here and opened up for Twiztid on a tour they were doing and he had a bass player, some violinists, a couple back up singers I think, and a drummer. It was pretty dope but I just can't get into his sound, the gimmick is cool, looks like Lo Pan from Big Trouble in Little Chinatown.

ICP/36 Mafia album.....15 years ago that would've dope, ICP has lost everything that was "cool" about them, they're a fucking parody now, a rich parody, but they can't even rap properly these days. 36, those dudes style has never changed in 20 years lol. Idk, not trying to hate on it before it even gets made but idk....Would rather see Twiztid and the Mafia throw some shit down.

[MikeHunt]

Went to earl sweatshirt last night. What a talented dude. Great performer see him live ASAP lads.

[Ringo]

ICP has lost everything that was "cool" about them, they're a fucking parody now

:D

[Nash Diesel]

Super jealous of you cats who went and saw Earl Sweatshirt recently.

[G-Fresh]

ICP/36 Mafia album.....15 years ago that would've dope, ICP has lost everything that was "cool" about them, they're a fucking parody now, a rich parody, but they can't even rap properly these days. 36, those dudes style has never changed in 20 years lol. Idk, not trying to hate on it before it even gets made but idk....Would rather see Twiztid and the Mafia throw some shit down.

Post Shangri-La>pre Shangri-La.

The best thing J ever did was telling people that you're either with us or fuck off at the 2002 GotJ before Shangri-La was released. They are better off without the faggoty horrorcore/devil worshiper kids as fans. Twiztid on the other hand are a fuckin joke right now. The worst thing they ever did was leave Psy. The new Dark Lotus set to be released at the GotJ this year screams that Twiztid & Blaze need money.

[Psycho666Soldier]

Post Shangri-La>pre Shangri-La.

The best thing J ever did was telling people that you're either with us or fuck off at the 2002 GotJ before Shangri-La was released. They are better off without the faggoty horrorcore/devil worshiper kids as fans. Twiztid on the other hand are a fuckin joke right now. The worst thing they ever did was leave Psy. The new Dark Lotus set to be released at the GotJ this year screams that Twiztid & Blaze need money.

Twiztid's been mostly whack since Independent's Day other than a few tracks off W.I.C.K.E.D., but I could never agree with Post Shangri-La being better than Pre Shangri-La. I dig the rawness of the older albums better, and I felt there was more passion and a vibe that they gave a fuck. Nowadays it feels like they just put shit out to get money.

I'd never dog on Blaze, though. He's been the most consistently good performer of Psychopathic.

[G-Fresh]

I don't necessarily mean quality, even though Shangri-La is my favorite album they've put out. I mean as a whole. The change of atmosphere at Psy after Shangri-La was released led to the best era the label ever had (2002-2005). The people that dropped off wasn't really down anyway.

About Twiztid. I like W.I.C.K.E.D. a lot. I don't like H&H. It's fuckin emo. Abominationz is good. A New Nightmare is alright. It's what I expected their first album after leaving Psy would be like. Blaze though.....everything the dude puts out is fuckin dope. I hope Him & R.O.C. get serious about Zodiac MPrint.

[G-Fresh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5JTskk0eAc

R.A. comes correct.

[Bert]

Strangeulation leaked. Wow, that's hella early. It's not out officially til May 6th.
http://www.sharebeast.com/zqiptw1z4mg5

[G-Fresh]

Strange has problems with that shit. Everready leaked like 3 months early.

[G-Fresh]

The Kottonmouth Kings, La Coka Nostra, (hed) P.E. Tech N9ne, Ces Cru, and Stevie Stone have been announced for the GotJ and Mick Foley will also be there doing comedy.

[Nash Diesel]

Post Shangri-La>pre Shangri-La.

The best thing J ever did was telling people that you're either with us or fuck off at the 2002 GotJ before Shangri-La was released. They are better off without the faggoty horrorcore/devil worshiper kids as fans. Twiztid on the other hand are a fuckin joke right now. The worst thing they ever did was leave Psy. The new Dark Lotus set to be released at the GotJ this year screams that Twiztid & Blaze need money.

Man when I lived in Detroit back in 2000, I bumped into some cats who were like "I've hated everything since Ringmaster, Ringmaster was their last good record, everything since is corny." Once they became mega commercial and saw Kid Rock blowing up on that rock-infused rap, that's when it started going downhill for me. Their skills and beats became very subpar, not that 2Dope was a lyrical beast but the dude hasn't rapped on time in 15 years and Violent J tries to be wayyy too comedic. It's just not for me and like I said, there were fans of theirs who stopped listening after 1994.

Twiztid I have a soft spot for because they are the group that really made me want to pursue rap music after listening to the original Mostasteless the first day it dropped. Not saying everything they've put out is great, I just don't like a lot of the rap-rock shit ICP and Twiztid do because they fucking suck at it. I don't mind rock guitars and that element in the music though, but what they do just doesn't appeal to me at all and it never has. Not just with them but a lot of artists who have made that attempt.

I will say this, was it Bang Boom Pow where Mike E. Clark came back and did a bunch of production? I liked a lot of the production on that record, I liked the remix double album for Shangri La/Hell's Pit, but it was mainly the beats and that's what has always drawn me to ICP and Twiztid were not just the lyrics and imagery, but they had some dope beats.

[Stringer Bell]

Here.

http://www.sharebeast.com/w0kd2clw0qc8

I used to hate that hook so much but now it gets stuck in my head all the time.

Oh and ATTN: Thread.

You should all download Quiz Up it's a trivia app for Android and iPhones.

They have Hip Hop trivia and it's fun. I'm IceySubzero.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Bert again.

Thanks dude.

What's everyone been listening to?

I'm still stuck on Freddie Gibbs/Madlib and Schoolboy Q.

Looking forward to checking out new Cunninlynguists, Smoke DZA, Mobb Deep, Ratking, and some more stuff.

[Nash Diesel]

I read on Wu Tang's site that some dude offered them $5 million for the "Once Upon A Time In Shaolin" album. That is nuts!

[Fro]

Yeah I mean I'm all for supporting artists but I'll probably be ripping that one.

Guys I fucking HATE Future, like he's a close competitor with T-Pain in terms of how he just ruins any song he's on, but this one.... fuck I know it's a few months old but I just started hearing it on the radio and I can't get it out my head. I love when Pharrell drops a hard rap verse.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHguy4xHGSg

[son_of_foley]

GAMBINO WARNING
https://soundcloud.com/nasaofficial/hide-tropkillaz-remix-feat

This bangs

[Bert]

:headbang:

[Simon]

Not going to bother making my own thread for it but I've just started getting into hip-hop production properly after ten years of occasionally dipping in to no effect.

As of right now I am of course absolutely shite but given that I have more or less no other avenue to get my attempts out there (I don't want to alienate my real world pals by flooding their Facebook feeds with endless links to what is inevitably going to be dreadful for a few months at least) I thought I would post them here. Most people ask for constructive criticism, I would just ask for creative criticism ie. if it isn't helpful, at least make your insults amusing. Genuinely looking for feedback, this is my first ever attempt...I know this beat is basic and repetitive but I figure small steps are the way forward. Forgive the shit vocals, I just don't really have much in the sample catalogue (incidentally where do you lot that are into production get your sample packs from?). Also it's very short because I'm still working on it, this is a slightly older mix and it's been tarted up slightly since this.

I love the chords but the drum loop is so boring right now. Also I haven't really worked out to time samples right - I have a load of songs I want to sample but they don't match up to the drum pattern at all, once I work that out I'll be laughing.

https://soundcloud.com/sobmusic-1/hh1

[Nash Diesel]

Yeah I mean I'm all for supporting artists but I'll probably be ripping that one.

Guys I fucking HATE Future, like he's a close competitor with T-Pain in terms of how he just ruins any song he's on, but this one.... fuck I know it's a few months old but I just started hearing it on the radio and I can't get it out my head. I love when Pharrell drops a hard rap verse.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHguy4xHGSg

What is up with the Smokey the Bear hat that idiot is wearing? I like his music/beats but sometimes I look at artists and wonder what kind of weed are they smokin on to think looking like a stupid fuck=positive. But the flipside is every wannabe will be trying to steal his style, nothing new in the world of music lol.

Also, I'm not even sure if that Wu Tang album will be made available to the public. Whoever buys it will have to leak that shit because there's only 1 that will be made to my knowledge.

[Nash Diesel]

Not going to bother making my own thread for it but I've just started getting into hip-hop production properly after ten years of occasionally dipping in to no effect.

As of right now I am of course absolutely shite but given that I have more or less no other avenue to get my attempts out there (I don't want to alienate my real world pals by flooding their Facebook feeds with endless links to what is inevitably going to be dreadful for a few months at least) I thought I would post them here. Most people ask for constructive criticism, I would just ask for creative criticism ie. if it isn't helpful, at least make your insults amusing. Genuinely looking for feedback, this is my first ever attempt...I know this beat is basic and repetitive but I figure small steps are the way forward. Forgive the shit vocals, I just don't really have much in the sample catalogue (incidentally where do you lot that are into production get your sample packs from?). Also it's very short because I'm still working on it, this is a slightly older mix and it's been tarted up slightly since this.

I love the chords but the drum loop is so boring right now. Also I haven't really worked out to time samples right - I have a load of songs I want to sample but they don't match up to the drum pattern at all, once I work that out I'll be laughing.

https://soundcloud.com/sobmusic-1/hh1

Sounds good man! I dig the chords as well, just keep playing around, get your time signature down, you'll be set. Idk if it was just the way it was uploaded but it sounded like the drums came in early or maybe the intro was too soft and I didn't hear it correctly but yeah brother all in all, for your first instrumental I'd say you have something going in a positive way.

See, I was fortunate to have a producer who was also a DJ, so he had hundreds of records that weren't just music but accapellas, sound bytes from newscasts and shit like that, plus he had some interface DJ shit that he could pull things off the internet and sample/scratch. But we didn't use hardly any samples so I can't really point you in the right direction :(

[Simon]

Cheers homie, I've got an absolute shit ton of music to work with and tons of ideas for samples etc, I just have no idea how to implement them at the moment :D I'm learning something new every day though so hopefully in time I'll be able to make something halfway decent.

[Simon]

I hated that singing sample so I removed it, and added in a couple of samples from The Wire...not sure they really go with the style of beat, maybe suited to something less melodic and more low-key...but interested to see what people think about the placement of the samples, whether they fit in on a technical level etc.

https://soundcloud.com/sobmusic-1/boadie-broadus

[Clerk]

Eminem is "The Rap God

[Simon]

He sure is babe.

[Clerk]

He sure is babe.


:scared: out of Eminems latest songs (Mons7er, Survival, Rap God etc..) which one do you think was the prettiest penny?

[Simon]

Rap God for sure. That was a decent track. Monster is good pop-rap I guess. Survival is wank.

Whatever Eminem song got played during Wrestlemania during the Bray Wyatt bit (Legacy I think?) was sending people nuts where I was watching the event.

[The Rogerer]

Were they going brrrrap and tugging their t-shirt?

[Simon]

Much liquor was poured for the homies that have passed.

[Clerk]

I liked all of them all good songs but Rap God and Bezerk i really like

[Bert]

I thought this was pretty funny.

http://www.complex.com/tv/shows/time-alone/murs-time-alone

I doubt a lot of people here would be into it but I'm loving Strangeulation, it's my new car playlist at the moment. It's probably too "pop rap" for some people but I've always been into other artists doing the hooks or choruses.

[G-Fresh]

I still haven't given it a proper listen. I don't really like any of of the Tech collabo albums though.

[Bert]

I didn't like gates mixed plate but I like this one.

[G-Fresh]

Gates Mixed Plate is the worst stuff he has ever released.

[Bert]

Then I guess you didn't listen to Sickology 101.

[G-Fresh]

I had high hopes for Sickology. He could have done tracks with BLH, Three 6 Mafia, ICP, Twiztid, Geto Boys, Esham, Blaze, Necro, Ill Bill, Ganksta N-I-P, Mars, Q Strange, & R.O.C. and made a really fuckin sick album that would live up to its name. Instead we get features with fuckin fags like Chino XL, Messy Marv, Irv Da Phenom, & Nesto the Owner. Ain't shit fuckin sick about that trash. Chino XL is a fuckin bitch. Fuck him.

[Psycho666Soldier]

Not going to bother making my own thread for it but I've just started getting into hip-hop production properly after ten years of occasionally dipping in to no effect.

As of right now I am of course absolutely shite but given that I have more or less no other avenue to get my attempts out there (I don't want to alienate my real world pals by flooding their Facebook feeds with endless links to what is inevitably going to be dreadful for a few months at least) I thought I would post them here. Most people ask for constructive criticism, I would just ask for creative criticism ie. if it isn't helpful, at least make your insults amusing. Genuinely looking for feedback, this is my first ever attempt...I know this beat is basic and repetitive but I figure small steps are the way forward. Forgive the shit vocals, I just don't really have much in the sample catalogue (incidentally where do you lot that are into production get your sample packs from?). Also it's very short because I'm still working on it, this is a slightly older mix and it's been tarted up slightly since this.

I love the chords but the drum loop is so boring right now. Also I haven't really worked out to time samples right - I have a load of songs I want to sample but they don't match up to the drum pattern at all, once I work that out I'll be laughing.

https://soundcloud.com/sobmusic-1/hh1

The links you provided didn't work, but going to your soundcloud page and listening to "Preston Broadus," you have a strong handle on how to construct a beat. It's on time, it changes up just enough to keep the imagination active, and the sample placement is on point.

As far as samples go, trying to find them is sometimes one of the hardest things to do. I usually have an idea of what kind of sample I want to use and just think of shows and shit that would have a similar sample, sometimes just looking at random things on Youtube. Then I go through whatever means necessary to rip the audio. What program are you running?

By the way, if you or anyone's interested in some of my work, I have a Soundcloud, too. I'd love feedback, though a couple of these beats are unfinished, and one of them is just a weird fuck-around that I liked. The mixes are also a bit weak on some.

https://soundcloud.com/the-psycho-soldier

[Simon]

Cheers for the feedback, I'm using FL Studio 11...my problem is getting samples to fit the tempo, I just can't work out how to do it at the mo. Will definitely listen to your gear when I get a chance :yes:

[Psycho666Soldier]

Cheers for the feedback, I'm using FL Studio 11...my problem is getting samples to fit the tempo, I just can't work out how to do it at the mo. Will definitely listen to your gear when I get a chance :yes:

It definitely takes some time. I use FL Studio 9, myself.

I've found the easiest way to match a sample to the tempo of your beat is to throw it in slicex, and then check the tempo of the sample(for me it's right clicking the bar on the left just above the wave-form of the audio in slicex) and clicking "quick estimation for loop) or something to that effect. Whatever number it gives will be the tempo you should set the beat to, and it usually gives you a number close to whatever you already have the beat tempo set at.

Hope that helps at all.

[MikeHunt]

Can you both not just use reason and export to fl?

[Psycho666Soldier]

I actually have yet to try much outside of FL, but are you suggesting timing the sample in Reason and then transferring that to the FL project?

[G-Fresh]

FL ain't bad for starting out. MPCs are where it's at though.

[Bert]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExVtrghW5Y4

WE ARE ALL GAMBINO.

[Bert]

http://www.datpiff.com/Jon-Connor-BestInTheWorld-A-Tribute-To-The-Notorious-BIG-mixtape.601392.html

I'm worried Jon Connor is more worried about quantity than quality these days. That said I haven't listened to this mixtape yet.

[Nash Diesel]

I know it's been out for awhile but man I can't stop listening to the latest Cage album, Kill the Architect.

[son_of_foley]

This Andre 3 Stacks feature is insane

http://nahright.com/news/2014/04/17/future-ft-andre-3000-benz-friendz-watchutola/

[Simon]

HERE LADS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdw_wl4Z29k

See in this video at around 1m, he drags and drops the song he wants to chop into his FL playlist...I don't seem to be able to do this on mine. I can drag songs into the pattern creator on the left hand side, but not into the playlist. I think once I've cracked this I can kick on, but at the moment I'm fucked because I can't do things the guy in that video discusses later on (around 5m35s) where he changes the beat length of the sample which automatically alters the pitch, or alters the pitch by changing the BPM.

HALP.

[Fro]

The Roots - Tomorrow (http://www31.zippyshare.com/v/62790089/file.html)

New roots single. Soulful shit.

[Psycho666Soldier]

HERE LADS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdw_wl4Z29k

See in this video at around 1m, he drags and drops the song he wants to chop into his FL playlist...I don't seem to be able to do this on mine. I can drag songs into the pattern creator on the left hand side, but not into the playlist. I think once I've cracked this I can kick on, but at the moment I'm fucked because I can't do things the guy in that video discusses later on (around 5m35s) where he changes the beat length of the sample which automatically alters the pitch, or alters the pitch by changing the BPM.

HALP.

That's odd you can't drag into the playlist, but there are other ways of doing this. In the mixer, try adding the Edison effect to one of the tracks(on the far right of the mixer, there are empty slots numbered 1-8 with drop down menus on the sides that lets you pick different effects, and one is Edison). Try dragging the song into there.

If that doesn't work, drag the song into the browser(the side bar that lists all the different effects, plugins, projects and all that mess) and it should add the folder the song is in to the list. Then right-click the song you wanted and click "edit". That will open it up in Edison automatically for you, but it will likely be tied to the master track if that's something you're worried about. In most cases it won't matter because you'll be transferring the sample into something else.

If this doesn't work, let me know and I'll try to help you out. If it does work, then I guess let me know if you have any questions from that point on how to manipulate your sample.

[MikeHunt]

I actually have yet to try much outside of FL, but are you suggesting timing the sample in Reason and then transferring that to the FL project?

Sorry just saw this.

thats exactly what id be thinking about doing.

[Psycho666Soldier]

Sorry just saw this.

thats exactly what id be thinking about doing.
I'll definitely consider that moving forward.