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MikeHunt
May 26th, 2012, 1:47 PM
Shite!
Bert
May 26th, 2012, 4:00 PM
I must have missed the part where people asked their opinion of you.
MikeHunt
May 26th, 2012, 5:05 PM
Funny ane! Why don't you make a gambino thread so I don't have to look at your wanky posts about him.
QuietStorm
May 26th, 2012, 6:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTa_SSJE-TE
http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy105/Noctoural88/bisnjoell.jpg
Bert
May 26th, 2012, 7:51 PM
Funny ane! Why don't you make a gambino thread so I don't have to look at your wanky posts about him.
I will if you agree to make a thread to post all of your shitty posts in. The only thing you contribute to this forum are bitch fights with Cewsh and those just go in circles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTa_SSJE-TE
http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy105/Noctoural88/bisnjoell.jpg
I wonder how long ago that was recorded.
MikeHunt
May 26th, 2012, 7:57 PM
Yea that's right fudnut! All you contribute is pishy posts about working 2.75 hours a week and gaymbino shite. Thanks very much now fuck off and listen to you boyfriend.
Bert
May 26th, 2012, 8:07 PM
I listen and post a lot of music by a lot of different rappers in this thread. You contribute nothing.
MikeHunt
May 26th, 2012, 8:15 PM
Most of whom I believe are bollocks with Gambino topping the shitlist. Congratulations on posting videos in a massive contribution to the forum what would we do without you Bert.
G-Fresh
May 26th, 2012, 8:52 PM
Came on ya'll. Hit some weed and be happy.
Bert
May 27th, 2012, 12:06 AM
Most of whom I believe are bollocks with Gambino topping the shitlist. Congratulations on posting videos in a massive contribution to the forum what would we do without you Bert.
And you don't even do that. What would we do without you? Have less pointless arguments? Probably.
I might miss your bitchfests with Cewsh though. Those are sometimes entertaining.
Something Blargh Blargh
May 27th, 2012, 12:10 AM
My friend took a pic with tyler the creator in LA. It's hilarious because my friends doing the whole thumbs up/smile deal with his arm wrapped around him and tyler just looks a mad nigar.
Fro
May 29th, 2012, 9:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-Evs0wwnuak
You probably heard this by now but the video just dropped. Dope.
Bert
May 29th, 2012, 11:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJt7gNi3Nr4
Bert
May 29th, 2012, 11:34 PM
Don't mind me, just posting more bollock videos that no one cares about.
MikeHunt
May 30th, 2012, 2:55 AM
Nah that's worthwhile. No one gives a fuck about gambino cause he is shite.
Bert
May 30th, 2012, 3:01 AM
http://i.imgur.com/jGyi2.jpg
MikeHunt
May 30th, 2012, 3:03 AM
His pretty average success and very poor reviews of his album seem to back up my opinion though.
Bert
May 30th, 2012, 3:24 AM
Wrong.
http://www.xxlmag.com/reviews/2011/11/childish-gambino-camp/
Still, taken on the whole, Camp is full of top-tier lyricism, honesty, uncertainty and triumph. Childish Gambino is on his way to becoming a real hip-hop force, heading in a direction all his own.
http://music.ign.com/articles/121/1212475p1.html
9/10
As Childish Gambino, Donald Glover delivers a stellar album as full of thoughtful social commentary as booty shaking bangers. From the chilled G-Funk vibe of uplifting "Fire Fly", celebrating his rise to fame, to the fantastic spoken-word recollection of pouring his heart out to a girl on the bus after summer camp as a post-script to his Kanye-inspired knock-out "That Power", Glover delivers one of the most consistent, infectious rap albums of the year
http://www.thesource.com/articles/103024/
4/5
Gambino’s use of one liners and imagery draws listeners into his world. Though his rapping ability may be overlooked at first, Childish refuses to let his critics dismiss him as being just another actor trying to do this rap thing on the side. This album proves that he may very well be the coolest kid in his class.
http://allhiphop.com/2011/11/15/album-review-childish-gambino%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Ccamp%E2%80%9D/
8/10
Overall, Childish Gambino’s first commercial offering proves that he isn’t just an actor rapping for fun. He’s been taking music seriously for years, and Camp goes far in displaying Glover’s talent as a rapper. By embracing his differences, he is able to craft lyrically unique tracks, and through his effort on Camp, he has managed to establish himself as a distinctive and rising artist in the Hip-Hop/rap genre.
http://consequenceofsound.net/2011/11/album-review-childish-gambino-camp/
4.5/5
So the joke goes like this: Actor/comedian Donald Glover (you know, Troy Barnes from Community) got it in his head one day that he wanted to be a rapper. Cue a boatload of EPs, mixtapes, and random song drops, and now Glover (going by the nom de rhyme Childish Gambino) has dropped his debut album, Camp, on Glassnote Records, the home to big-name acts Mumford & Sons, Phoenix, and The Temper Trap. Here’s the punchline, though: The joke’s actually on us. Gambino can really rap. Scratch that; he can really, really rap, plus sing and emote and put on a show better than 90% of his hip-hop counterparts. What’s funny isn’t that some dude who used to work with Tina Fey has big-time rap dreams; it’s that they’re about to come true.
Oh and this is all the proof needed to prove Pitchfork's reviews aren't worth shit(e)
http://i.imgur.com/VouBU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YQubF.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ilWRa.jpg
Add this to the fact that some of the most popular artists out now (Schoolboy Q, Kendrick Lamar, and Danny Brown) are working with Gambino and it's easy to tell that you just refuse to see what's right in front of you.
Chris Dolmeth
May 30th, 2012, 3:36 AM
Don't talk shit about Lil B! He's the best lyricist of our generation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43tMZvC_uWk
"Niggas comment on the clothes that I wear.. You're a faggot if you're lookin at my fuckin clothes!"
:lol: genius
MikeHunt
May 30th, 2012, 3:43 AM
That's acctually a very average review from XXL and the only other one I've heard of is ign and I'm acctually laughing at you for quoting them.
All I merely suggested was you make a thread for all the gambino shit you post cause you and some other deaf cunts seem to like him. This thread contains some amount of bollocks and gambino is not the worst but your constant spamming of this thread with gambino bollocks, no one seems to reply to, suggests that you might get a bit more response if you made a thread for his shit.
Bert
May 30th, 2012, 3:48 AM
You've never heard of The Source and call yourself a hip hop fan? :rofl:
Me and the majority of reviewers seem to like him. Also those 3 popular artists I mentioned and more probably appearing on the mixtape.
No new thread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZUqeN9d034
MikeHunt
May 30th, 2012, 3:54 AM
I don't really call myself a hip hop fan, i have an intrest in pretty much every genre of music.
I know what I like and don't really need reviews to tell me what to like. I tend to check them after I've listened to see a general consensus on the artist/album. Feed back on gambino is pretty average, and him only selling 140,000 copies of his album in the USA is pretty poor.
However Bert, If you need someone else to tell you what's good then you are a fucking fool. Don't worry though most people are like you and prefer to be fed shit thrown at them by media sources instead of making choices on their own.
MikeHunt
May 30th, 2012, 3:57 AM
Because those three artists work with him doesn't mean that they respect him or even like him. Like him or not he is pretty high profile and working with him make more people aware of your music then it's a smart choice, you also are not factoring in each artists labels influence to make an artist work with another.
son_of_foley
May 30th, 2012, 4:02 AM
Gambino came up through grassroot media sources Mike. I know the tv thing helped with exposure but he's hardly high profile being in community is he?
Some of his mixtapes are pretty awesome but he is becoming a bit of self-parody already
Bert
May 30th, 2012, 4:04 AM
Did you seriously just say Gambino got average reviews and then when proven wrong say reviews don't matter and anyone who reads into them is a fool?
Even the wikipedia where you undoubtedly grabbed those sales numbers from says "Camp received positive reviews from music critics. At Metacritic, which assigns a normalized rating out of 100 to reviews from mainstream critics, the album received an average score of 68, based on 26 reviews, which indicates "Generally favorable reviews"."
And if you really want me to I can calculate what the actual score would be without Pitchfork's bullshit troll review which dragged the number down significantly.
So again I just ask that you accept the obvious and stop coming up with excuses and trying to backpedal from your flawed argument.
MikeHunt
May 30th, 2012, 4:05 AM
I would say he is more high profile than the three artists Bert mentioned based on mainstream media yes.
Basically I continue to say he's fucking bollocks and the only good verse of lyrics I've heard is in the Jamie xx remix of Adele.
son_of_foley
May 30th, 2012, 4:06 AM
Also theres fuck all traffic in the listening room as it is so we shouldn't fragment this thread much.
MikeHunt
May 30th, 2012, 4:08 AM
Did you seriously just say Gambino got average reviews and then when proven wrong say reviews don't matter and anyone who reads into them is a fool?
Even the wikipedia where you undoubtedly grabbed those sales numbers from says "Camp received positive reviews from music critics. At Metacritic, which assigns a normalized rating out of 100 to reviews from mainstream critics, the album received an average score of 68, based on 26 reviews, which indicates "Generally favorable reviews"."
And if you really want me to I can calculate what the actual score would be without Pitchfork's bullshit troll review which dragged the number down significantly.
So again I just ask that you accept the obvious and stop coming up with excuses and trying to backpedal from your flawed argument.
Lol fuck off Bert that is not what I meant. I'm typing on my phone at work so it may not read how I want it to. Anyway I think he's shit you don't pretty simple. By the way 68 is average not good.
son_of_foley
May 30th, 2012, 4:09 AM
That remix is probably one of his best songs for me.
I also like Freaks and Geeks and Let me dope you. The other adele sampled song do ya like is pretty good too. The stuff I've heard after the album like eat your vegetables etc I've really not enjoyed much
G-Fresh
May 30th, 2012, 4:09 AM
Reviews don't mean shit either way.
son_of_foley
May 30th, 2012, 4:11 AM
I also properly love this Lil B song though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I06BLkPtZKE&feature=related
MikeHunt
May 30th, 2012, 4:16 AM
That remix is probably one of his best songs for me.
I also like Freaks and Geeks and Let me dope you. The other adele sampled song do ya like is pretty good too. The stuff I've heard after the album like eat your vegetables etc I've really not enjoyed much
All he did was throw a verse in Jamie Xx did the rest and tbh gambinos rap kind of kills the flow of the original remix, still don't mind it though.
Bert
May 30th, 2012, 4:21 AM
I also properly love this Lil B song though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I06BLkPtZKE&feature=related
Now that's a rapper being a self-parody.
Lil B has zero flow and between that and the awful lyrics it drives me insane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-WMuRdqf7I
I've never heard of that chick but she's fine as hell. Heard of Tank but never listened to him til now. T.I.'s verse was meh.
son_of_foley
May 30th, 2012, 4:34 AM
That Lil B song is awesome though. Miles better than everything else I've heard him do
Simon
May 30th, 2012, 9:36 AM
BERT PLEASE STOP FILLING THIS THREAD UP WITH TALK ABOUT FUCKING CHILDISH GAMBINO. YOU LIKE HIM, GREAT, BUT STOP GOING ON ABOUT IT. WHETHER THEY LIKE HIM OR NOT, EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT HIM NOW SO YOU'RE NOT OPENING ANYONE'S EYES TO ANYTHING NEW, YOU'RE JUST BORING THE TITS OFF EVERYONE AND COMING ACROSS LIKE A ZEALOT FANBOY BENDER. YOU'RE NOW AS BAD AS OR WORSE THAN QUIETSTORM GOING ON ABOUT CANIBUS.
Hip-hop is so fucking bad at the moment. However this beat is sick as fuck...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a__y0bF_tsI
Simon
May 30th, 2012, 9:41 AM
You've never heard of The Source and call yourself a hip hop fan? :rofl:
You think a positive review in The Source still holds water and you call yourself a hip hop fan? :rofl:
MikeHunt
May 30th, 2012, 9:45 AM
Yas Simon!
Simon
May 30th, 2012, 9:56 AM
Some new and old shit I've been listening to recently...
DJ Khaled - We In This Bitch 1.5 (basically just Drake's verse, it's downhill after that but Drake smashes it to bits)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FTlN8tIgJo
AL - Lyrics (some oldschool vibes I've been listening after finding an old Lyricist's Lounge CD I'd forgotten I had)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kVW6-TwKqU
Chino XL - It's All Bad (another one I found on an old CD I hadn't heard in ages)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rvn_nohSNvw
Danny Brown - Grown Up (the sample's been done but I can't help but love this)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfQX9jXgkRA
Jehst - Tears In Rain (the beat is just beautiful and smooth...sounds a little like Shorty Wanna Be A Thug)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bePctwFXVzo
REKS - Say Goodnight (genuinely up there with my favourite EVER Premo beats. The man is a God)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUBxS5yxGTA
Bumpy Knuckles - B.A.P. (see above, plus Bumpy is the shit)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPHv594p2Wc&feature=fvst
Big Pun - Boomerang (been listening to Capital Punishment again recently...what a fucking album. The most underrated of all time IMO. I'd forgotten this track even existed, lovely to hear it again)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fra_YSkK2dg
Joell Ortiz - Hip Hop (Jadakiss remix. Jada must be the most frustrating rapper of all time. Every now and then he just murders a specific beat or steals the show on a collabo - remember him stealing the show from Luda and Nas on the Made You Look remix? - but his albums have always been average at best)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KqRrPXKSu4
Bert
May 30th, 2012, 2:43 PM
BERT PLEASE STOP FILLING THIS THREAD UP WITH TALK ABOUT FUCKING CHILDISH GAMBINO. YOU LIKE HIM, GREAT, BUT STOP GOING ON ABOUT IT. WHETHER THEY LIKE HIM OR NOT, EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT HIM NOW SO YOU'RE NOT OPENING ANYONE'S EYES TO ANYTHING NEW, YOU'RE JUST BORING THE TITS OFF EVERYONE AND COMING ACROSS LIKE A ZEALOT FANBOY BENDER. YOU'RE NOW AS BAD AS OR WORSE THAN QUIETSTORM GOING ON ABOUT CANIBUS.
Hip-hop is so fucking bad at the moment. However this beat is sick as fuck...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a__y0bF_tsI
So what was the reasoning behind typing in all caps? Trying to look like a complete tool?
People have heard of him but they might not hear the new songs if I don't post them.
So far I have to say I like the old stuff better but when he's rapping with people like Schoolboy Q, or performing with Danny Brown and Kendrick Lamar I would think the people in this thread would be interested, even if it's only to hear the verses of the other guys.
Gambino is far from the only music I post in this thread so the comparison to QuietStorm is inaccurate but you already knew that.
Hip Hop isn't bad right now at all, you just have shit taste.
You think a positive review in The Source still holds water and you call yourself a hip hop fan? :rofl:
They are still far more credible than fucking Pitchfork or BBC Music or The Guardian.
The Pitchfork review is the only that annoys me though, because they are blatantly trolling. Otherwise I don't put much thought into them. The only reason I posted them is Mike said Camp got "very poor reviews" and I knew he was wrong, so I proved it.
MikeHunt
May 30th, 2012, 2:46 PM
From credible review sources like pitchfork, guardian ect the reviews were poor to average. Again 68/100 on metacritic is fucking average. I couldn't possibly agree with Simon more tbh.
Bert
May 30th, 2012, 2:54 PM
You're saying they're credible just to troll me aren't you? :lol: Average doesn't equal "very poor", by the way. You were wrong. Why can't we just move on?
http://i.imgur.com/Fuchq.jpg
1. LFU300MA (Intro)
2. Live From The Underground
3. Cool 2 Be Southern
4. I Got This
5. Money On The Floor feat. 8Ball & MJG and 2 Chainz
6. What U Mean feat. Ludacris
7. My Sub (Pt. 2: The Jackin’)
8. Don’t Let Me Down
9. Porchlight feat. Anthony Hamilton
10. Pull Up feat. Big Sant & Bun B
11. Yeah Dats Me
12. Hydroplaning feat. Devin The Dude
13. If I Fall feat. Melanie Fiona
14. Rich Dad, Poor Dad
15. Praying Man feat. B.B. King
16. Live From The Underground (Reprise) feat. Ms. Linnie
http://www.sharebeast.com/780nt4n09mia
MikeHunt
May 30th, 2012, 3:00 PM
To create an average score and you posting positive reviews a lot of them must have been average to very poor. Simple maths you fucking cretin. Anyway just stop posting pish about gambino every other day and this issue is a non point.
Fro
May 30th, 2012, 3:01 PM
From credible review sources like pitchfork, guardian ect the reviews were poor to average. Again 68/100 on metacritic is fucking average. I couldn't possibly agree with Simon more tbh.
No, 68 is generally favorable according to their scale. Anything over 80 is universal acclaim.
And Pitchfork is truly awful when it comes to hip hop, at least with their ratings. So many head scratchers.
Bert
May 30th, 2012, 3:39 PM
Anyway just stop posting pish about gambino every other day and this issue is a non point.
Fro already addressed the first crock of shit so I'll just say that I don't just spam music that's weeks old.
I post songs the day that they come out or a day or two later at most. If there's a new song, I'm going to post it.
What great timing.
http://childishgambino.com/iamronald/week3/untitled.png
The song's called Silk Pillow.
It's not on Youtube yet.
http://www.iamdonald.com/1
The beat is nice, not really a Beck fan but his "verse" is alright.
I like Gambino's verse, it's more like the older stuff and sounds less like him trying to imitate Danny Brown.
son_of_foley
May 30th, 2012, 4:35 PM
Bert post as much gambino as you want for fucks sake.
Music forum is dying on it's arse and yet people want posts.either.stopped or fractured.
son_of_foley
May 30th, 2012, 4:38 PM
Also hiphop.is pretty strong right now. Killer mike and elp dropped. Kendrick and krit to come. Fantastic
Bert
May 30th, 2012, 10:36 PM
You mean Simon doesn't know what he's talking about? Shocker.
krit to come.
It's already out.
http://i.imgur.com/Fuchq.jpg
1. LFU300MA (Intro)
2. Live From The Underground
3. Cool 2 Be Southern
4. I Got This
5. Money On The Floor feat. 8Ball & MJG and 2 Chainz
6. What U Mean feat. Ludacris
7. My Sub (Pt. 2: The Jackin’)
8. Don’t Let Me Down
9. Porchlight feat. Anthony Hamilton
10. Pull Up feat. Big Sant & Bun B
11. Yeah Dats Me
12. Hydroplaning feat. Devin The Dude
13. If I Fall feat. Melanie Fiona
14. Rich Dad, Poor Dad
15. Praying Man feat. B.B. King
16. Live From The Underground (Reprise) feat. Ms. Linnie
http://www.sharebeast.com/780nt4n09mia
QuietStorm
May 31st, 2012, 3:39 AM
The difference is I go on about Canibus because it drives you cats crazy. Bert legitimately can't help himself.
Those Jehst and Reks tracks are gems indeed.
QuietStorm
May 31st, 2012, 3:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATX6n6MbBVQ&feature=related
son_of_foley
May 31st, 2012, 3:46 AM
I'm throwing some money at K.R.I.T so I'm waiting till its released on 5th June here.
:heart: him
Simon
May 31st, 2012, 6:57 AM
The difference is I go on about Canibus because it drives you cats crazy. Bert legitimately can't help himself.
Those Jehst and Reks tracks are gems indeed.
Love Bert claiming I don't know what I'm talking about and have bad taste. Just cos I'm not in here sucking the arse of every new rapper out. Listen to those tracks I posted and claim I don't have good taste. I'll allow you the leeway of disliking one because technically music is subjective, any more than that and you may not ever talk of other people having bad taste again.
Simon
May 31st, 2012, 6:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATX6n6MbBVQ&feature=related
You have to love Jehst. I have to admit his newest album left me cold but Return of the Drifter is one of the best UKHH albums of all time.
SOF I love that one track Krit did that Ludacris appeared on, proper dirty south anthem...Country Shit I think it was called, was that a big one of his? He's not someone I've particularly followed, although I heard his new single (What U Mean) and it is muck. Same with Luda's new single that samples LL, Jingaling.
son_of_foley
May 31st, 2012, 8:33 AM
You have to love Jehst. I have to admit his newest album left me cold but Return of the Drifter is one of the best UKHH albums of all time.
SOF I love that one track Krit did that Ludacris appeared on, proper dirty south anthem...Country Shit I think it was called, was that a big one of his? He's not someone I've particularly followed, although I heard his new single (What U Mean) and it is muck. Same with Luda's new single that samples LL, Jingaling.
Yeah Country Shit is a big one.
I like hometown hero, 4eva n a day (the theme) which is straight up chanelling the college drop out and I got This. WHICH IS A BANGER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb-E3EuIfn8
Chris Dolmeth
May 31st, 2012, 7:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCMQua7JzXE
RuneEdge
May 31st, 2012, 9:52 PM
Love Bert claiming I don't know what I'm talking about and have bad taste. Just cos I'm not in here sucking the arse of every new rapper out. Listen to those tracks I posted and claim I don't have good taste. I'll allow you the leeway of disliking one because technically music is subjective, any more than that and you may not ever talk of other people having bad taste again.
I cant remember all your posts off the top of my head, but the last time I remember me and you interacting in this thread was when you basically said Rick Ross was shit. And I think I remember me and another poster (maybe more, not sure) defending him and disagreeing. I cant recall any other debates but I specifically remember responding that last time because I felt you seem to disagree with popular opinion a lot (or atleast more often than most people). I think there might have been something about Kanye in the past too, but Im not sure.
My point is that you having "bad taste" isnt so much to do with not sucking the arse of these new rappers. Its more to do with the fact that you shit all over the stuff thats got a good following, and then you post something that no one else really responds to.
That naturally gives off the impression that you have bad taste.
QuietStorm
June 1st, 2012, 2:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjbSRDtlOdo
god. damn. Overload of Detroit awesomeness.
Simon
June 1st, 2012, 4:58 AM
I cant remember all your posts off the top of my head, but the last time I remember me and you interacting in this thread was when you basically said Rick Ross was shit. And I think I remember me and another poster (maybe more, not sure) defending him and disagreeing. I cant recall any other debates but I specifically remember responding that last time because I felt you seem to disagree with popular opinion a lot (or atleast more often than most people). I think there might have been something about Kanye in the past too, but Im not sure.
My point is that you having "bad taste" isnt so much to do with not sucking the arse of these new rappers. Its more to do with the fact that you shit all over the stuff thats got a good following, and then you post something that no one else really responds to.
That naturally gives off the impression that you have bad taste.
Rick Ross is shit. Shit lyrics, even shitter flow. It is honestly bizarre to me that anyone would rate him. Kanye's last couple of albums were shit IMO, but I've also said before College Dropout is probably my favourite hip-hop album of the 21st Century (can't remember exactly when a couple of albums came out around the turn of the century.
All I'm seeing is a load of people hyping up fairly average rappers like Gambino etc who just aren't particularly good compared to what was around 5 years ago, let alone during the 90s when I was growing up.
Bert
June 1st, 2012, 5:11 AM
I guess you don't consider the same things good as the rest of us.
Simon
June 1st, 2012, 5:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8pG1mG7BeI
Best opening line of all time?
G-Fresh
June 1st, 2012, 10:52 PM
Stevie Stone - Rollin' Stone
01. Intro
02. Get Buck
03. 808 Bendin' (Feat. Tech N9ne)
04. Perfect Stranger
05. Cast Out (Feat. Krizz Kaliko)
06. Keep My Name Out Your Mouth (Feat. Kutt Calhoun)
07. Oneness (Feat. Peetah Morgan)
08. My Remedy (Skit)
09. My Remedy
10. Dollar General (Feat. Yelawolf)
11. Raw Talk (Feat. Hopsin & SwizZz)
12. Goin' Down (Feat. Big Scoob & Spaide Ripper)
13. Mosh
14. 2 Far
15. My Life
16. The Road (Feat. MAG num PI, Wrekonize & Bernz)
http://www.mediafire.com/?gd3618617xsq2on
Bert
June 1st, 2012, 10:59 PM
Thanks, I'll check it out.
Slaughterhouse said in an interview none of them even has a copy of the album because they don't want it leaking.
Looks like I might have to wait for the 12th. :(
G-Fresh
June 1st, 2012, 11:08 PM
Stevie has a good voice. His choice of beats are not so good.
Chris Dolmeth
June 2nd, 2012, 12:16 AM
I've only listened to a couple songs, but I like 808 Bendin.
Stringer Bell
June 2nd, 2012, 1:46 AM
Really enjoying the new records from Curren$y and Big K.R.I.T.
Flocka's on the cover of the new XXL and the article does a pretty good job explaining his appeal. He's just genuine. I'm one of the biggest lyric heads out there, but that doesn't mean everything has to be that way. There's a time and place for everything, and when it's time for Flocka, he's perfect. Can't wait for his new one.
The thing about Gambino is he's definitely great and makes great music, but he's no savior or the greatest or anything like some make him out to be. So far, his mixtape is sounding even better than Camp in my opinion. Love the track with Beck, but I'm trying not to overplay any of it until I can get the whole thing.
Chris Dolmeth
June 2nd, 2012, 1:54 AM
I really like Gambino. Wouldn't say he's the best or anything, but, to me, he's gotta unique sound to him.
Bert
June 2nd, 2012, 3:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2maPwt8BM
Childish Gambino ft Schoolboy Q - Unnecessary CDQ
http://www.sharebeast.com/8uatzoufqtbg
The last one had Funk Flex tags throughout.
Fro
June 2nd, 2012, 1:49 PM
Kendrick Lamar freestyle on BET. I wonder if this verse will end up on the album:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GfJT2q-r4OQ
I steal cable
June 3rd, 2012, 10:45 AM
So I stumbled across these mixed choons the other day.
Illinoize (http://www.tormusic.net/downloads/illinoize/)
Some classic tracks mixed with Sufjan Stevens. Haven't stopped listening to it.
(here's a few of the tracks on youtube)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKXp17Udsjk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T29UH1-jSh4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T58Cw0U2THY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-GzUmwp99w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kHYaC9daqE
All I'm asking is there any other songs out here like this and can you please tell me about them.
Psycho666Soldier
June 3rd, 2012, 5:54 PM
I don't have anything against Gambino from the little bit I've heard, but I haven't found much reason to follow him strongly. I'd have to hear more to get a solid opinion on him, though.
Bert
June 3rd, 2012, 7:23 PM
I don't have anything against Gambino from the little bit I've heard, but I haven't found much reason to follow him strongly. I'd have to hear more to get a solid opinion on him, though.
This is where I should post links to every song he's ever made and get people really mad, but I don't feel like it.
Get the mixtapes: I Am Just a Rapper 1 and 2, Culdesac, the EP and the album Camp. Then find the rolling in the deep jamie xx remix, the longest text message, untouchable, it's on, break, and then listen to the new stuff.
Or just get tracklists from google and look everything up on youtube.
Bert
June 4th, 2012, 2:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PlnHm5zqwI
And then this happened:
Earlier this evening, Nicki was expected to hit the stages for the 2012 Summer Jam, however word came down from Weezy that he was pulling her from performing due to a comment Peter Rosenberg made earlier. Weezy wasn’t having it and decided to “ban” his YMCMB crew from performing, although Tyga had already hit the stage.
:lol:
Fro
June 4th, 2012, 9:46 AM
I like Peter Rosenberg and I like that he has that attitude about hip hop but it was a pretty dumb/rude thing to say about an artist who's about to be performing at your radio station's big concert. So I dont fault Wayne for pulling Nicki out.
Bert
June 4th, 2012, 4:07 PM
Nipsey Hussle @NipseyHussle
@DonaldGlover when that tape dropin?
Childish Gambino @DonaldGlover
@NipseyHussle waiting on a verse from a certain Wu Tang member...then summer can have at it.
My money's on Ghostface, they were both on Hip Hop Squares and Peter Rosenberg, the host, asked Gambino what it was like to be representing nerds and Gambino told Peter to ask Ghostface, and Ghostface started laughing.
And then there's all the Big Ghost quotes on the songs put on iamdonald.com which makes me think Big Ghost is actually Ghostface Killah, even though he's denied it in the past.
G-Fresh
June 5th, 2012, 4:29 AM
SevideMic made a diss to Tech in response to Tech talkin about him in his verse on "Zombie."
http://hiphopnews99.blogspot.com/2012/06/sevidemic-tech-n9ne-diss-say-it.html
Bert
June 5th, 2012, 10:48 PM
What did Tech say? I read the lyrics and none of it sounds like a diss.
Also, does anyone know who the fuck that is, DVDA?
And is he trying to parody Tech or does he always sound like that?
Either way he just sounds jealous and bitter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_sPhpb2_R4
Bert
June 5th, 2012, 11:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud-TDZT3AaM
Bert
June 5th, 2012, 11:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgk-VUaJa78
Bert
June 5th, 2012, 11:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAfutsvtwN0
He should do a song with Stat Quo and Bobby Creekwater.
Crooked's mixtape Psalm 82:V6 is supposedly coming out June 19th now, the week after the Slaughterhouse album.
I'll believe it when I download it though.
And for anyone unaware, the forum only lets you do 1 video per post. Which is why I'm quad posting.
Bert
June 5th, 2012, 11:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHfWY0is3rE
G-Fresh
June 6th, 2012, 12:52 AM
What did Tech say? I read the lyrics and none of it sounds like a diss.
Also, does anyone know who the fuck that is, DVDA?
And is he trying to parody Tech or does he always sound like that?
Either way he just sounds jealous and bitter.
He is one of the guys that entered one of Hopsins contests a few months ago. The song is called Haunted, but it has been removed from youtube. I dig some of his shit. This is what he had to say about it
For the record, yes. tech is addressing me in his terrible verse on this song. hes talking about last october 13th when i met up with strange in San Diego on the 'Lost Cities' tour (for my 2nd meeting with them) in this meeting, Kutt Kalhoun screened my DeadicateD album (which he LOVED) after the meeting, i went to the show and (as a nigga who is THE pit boss) moshed the shit out of everyone in there and got thrown the fuck out... twice... cuz niggas was mad. i was painted up and got shouted out to from the stage by those fools 'SEVIDEMIC IS THE FUTURE, YALL WATCH' kutty said while pointing at me.
I like Techs verse. I think all three were dope on that track. Especially 40.
Bert
June 6th, 2012, 2:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dqgr0wNyPo
:lol: Cudi.
Bert
June 6th, 2012, 10:35 PM
Chance The Rapper is opening for Gambino tomorrow, I looked him up on youtube and he's alright. Still better than most of the stuff Stringer Bell listens to.
G-Fresh
June 6th, 2012, 10:47 PM
DJ Pauls "For I Have Sinned" mixtape is decent. I downloaded it for the track with ICP, but it has some bangers on it.
Psycho666Soldier
June 7th, 2012, 12:14 AM
I heard that track you posted in the Now Listening thread. That sounded pretty tight. Is the whole album better than Last 2 Walk? More importantly, does it have any stupid songs like "Lolli Lolli" or that fucking song that sampled Zombie Nation?
Chris Dolmeth
June 8th, 2012, 5:29 PM
:lol: Cudi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NrYf3iW2phg#!
:lol:
QuietStorm
June 10th, 2012, 12:03 AM
Canibus got bodybagged by Dizaster tonight. Never seen him so humble in defeat. I don't even know what to say right now. Props for accepting the challenge, but he was way over his head.
QuietStorm
June 10th, 2012, 2:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJRo9uFmjXc
This is bizarre and difficult to watch. I've seen him rap for an hour straight without forgetting a line once, but then this happens? Just bizarre. He was actually rolling pretty good in the first round, then some of the second. But then it was just a complete and utter trainwreck. It's almost like its his CTHS Pt. 2, but I don't even think he could troll this hard.
It was not the greatest of days and I was braced for the possibility it could happen. Needless to say, it went as badly as anyone could have hoped. Dizaster was in his element and Canibus was not in his in the slightest.
Like Canibus said, he is technical. He has made damn good albums throughout his career. How many albums does Dizaster have out? They are both great at what they do, but just far different in how they go about it. You put Canibus and Dizaster on a co-album, Canibus has the best verses 10 tracks out of 10. You have them battle three rounds, Dizaster will always win. Canibus has not put in the work in that field that Dizaster has.
Tonight, Dizaster was in his zone and Canibus was somewhere he probably should not have agreed to be. Props to Bis for having the balls to do this, it took a real man to be front and center like that. It just backfired.
I'm always going to remember Canibus for the outstanding albums, mixtape stuff, and all the other material he has put out in his career. And I'm going to listen the shit out of the 10,000 bars. I won't be remember this one bad night in his career, no matter how many fans and haters will never let this night go. The industry loved tonight.
This was probably not the best way to promote an album so large it costs $75 and is on a DVD.
Bert
June 10th, 2012, 2:29 AM
Canibus sucks.
I found this video of Round 1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JyrIt1enZk
And the stuff Dizaster says about Slaughterhouse is so true.
QuietStorm
June 10th, 2012, 2:41 AM
Were you there? Was Dizaster there? That was all about Canibus and Royce. Of course everyone is going to take the money-making side. Even Ras showed he wanted that green. Royce has always been a drunk troublemaker.
Bert
June 10th, 2012, 2:51 AM
DIZASTER KRACK CITY @MRDIZASTER
if u guys hear the bars i didnt use u will stab ur selves to death. i spit 30% of my material tonight.
QuietStorm
June 10th, 2012, 3:02 AM
I'm glad he dedicates so much time to this and not making 10,000 non-linear infinite bars. Which will ultimately be more impressive and timeless? Canibus was an idiot for accepting this challenge and showed a lot of humbleness in taking the loss. That said, I thought Dizaster deserves a lot of props for how he handled himself after. He was very respectful in helping to salvage the dignity that Bis was losing.
G-Fresh
June 10th, 2012, 3:14 AM
Canibus sucks.
Yer higher than I am
Bert
June 10th, 2012, 3:46 AM
Yer higher than I am
I'm on dat Canibus bath salt shit yo.
G-Fresh
June 10th, 2012, 5:32 AM
Don't be eating anybodies faces.
G-Fresh
June 10th, 2012, 6:15 AM
That shit is sad now that I watched it.
Simon
June 11th, 2012, 4:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJRo9uFmjXc
Props to Bis for having the balls to do this, it took a real man to be front and center like that. It just backfired.
Yeah props to Bis for being completely unprofessional and unprepared, and making a dick of himself in front of paying audiences. v
G-Fresh
June 11th, 2012, 4:57 AM
That doesn't make him a dick. Being an arrogant dickhole makes him a dick.
Simon
June 11th, 2012, 5:40 AM
Some stuff I've been listening to a lot recently...nothing new on here but some older stuff for anyone who is interested...
Blak Twang - Fearless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaDiaaY1zOQ
Common - G.O.D.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW9R0wAedWo
Jay-Z - Dope Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlKx1JnXfR4
Jay-Z - No Hook
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdKQ4Q20w_0
Mobb Deep - Give Up The Goods
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYanv3ZKwD0
Mobb Deep - The Start Of Your Ending
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_0JRXlzReA
Kanye West - Family Business
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8yoxyIu0s8
Arrested Development - Tings Distracting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOEVOZdtm-Q
Craig Mack - Flava In Ya Ear (Remix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8pG1mG7BeI
Immortal Technique - Mistakes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U46EMUWuBek
Lowkey - Long Live Palestine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO5Cay6GUkM
Dan Le Sac - Thou Shalt Always Kill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoN6XfyQsr4
BBF
June 11th, 2012, 5:41 AM
Have you heard Introdiction by Scroobius Pip, Si? been listening to that album (distraction pieces?) quite a lot.
Simon
June 11th, 2012, 5:47 AM
Yeah I wasn't massive on it though. In fact beyond Thou Shalt Always Kill I only like two tracks by Scroobius/DLS - Cowboys, and A Letter From God To Man which is brilliant.
Dan Le Sac - A Letter From God To Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5e_vNNkbCI
Simon
June 11th, 2012, 5:50 AM
PS. Change your name back you twat.
BBF
June 11th, 2012, 6:00 AM
Collin won't let me.
G-Fresh
June 11th, 2012, 10:56 PM
My dude M-Eighty spoke on the Canibus situation
Dear Canibus fans,
Let me begin by addressing all the recent “Fuck M-Eighty” and “We Blame M-Eighty” threads. Feel free to place the blame wherever you want.
Blame me for overseeing the release of “Horsemen Project EP: Remastered”, “MelatoninMagik”, “C of Tranquility”, “The Undergods EP & LP”, “Lyrical Law”, and the upcoming RTJ00. All released in a span of 4 years.
Blame me for the booking and tour management of over 150 United States Canibus Live shows since 2008.
Blame me for resurrecting Canibus merchandising to the fans who wanted more than just music.
One thing you will not Blame me for is Canibus’ loss in the Vendetta: Battle Royale on the 9th.
Since I have been working with Canibus we have entertained offers from Grindtime, Smack, URL, etc to get Bis to battle and all of the offers were not to Bis’ satisfaction. After I met Christian from Fresh Coast he had expressed an interest of having Canibus battle Dizaster and assured me that the offer would be to our liking. After 2 months of negotiating with members of Fresh Coast and ultimately KOTD we reached a deal and all parties were in agreement.
Canibus was preparing for the battle while working on RTJ00, preparing for a week of Canadian tour dates alongside various other family and life responsibilities.
To address those specifically who think they know better:
-Yes, I was in the ring with Bis while he battled Dizaster. I exited the ring during the 3rd round because I was getting texts from KOTD staffers both at the event in Canada demanding I come to the office and rationalize to them what was happening.
-Bis is my brother. Our relationship is not based off what work we either do or do not accomplish. I’ve been around for this long because I’m always on point and we always do proper business.
-As far as me being broke hence me sleeping on the couch at a friends house in another city instead of my hotel room after the Wu show in the city that the performance took place, that’s the funniest shit I’ve ever heard. 300K units sold, 12 Billboard accolades, a law degree, a Business owner (plural) , etc etc. I would worry about my finances if my bank account dropped under six figures (before the decimal for you smart asses).
-Why did I look upset and tell people I was shocked at the result for all those who approached me at the venue and have messaged me, because I too was expecting Canibus to Rip through the battle with ease and continue at the pace of his first round. That was not the case and there was no “acting” about it. Like you, my reactions were justified and In stand by Canibus as I would any artist I work with regardless.
The injuries you witnessed on Canibus were in fact real and in no way a publicity stunt. I can’t imagine someone wanting to have stitches in their head and have their arm in a sling due to a separated shoulder for publicity…where is the positive in that?
At no point in time did I ever ask to hear Canibus’ bars prior to witnessing the event live like everyone else. Nothing in our work history or his career before I entered the picture would give me any reason to believe that his material would not be up to par and therefore why would I need to hear it.
To sum up, it is unfortunate that Canibus lost the battle but the fact of the matter is Bis is not not built for that type of forum anymore. We all know Bis is a lyrical monster and his entire catalogue of tracks and albums is proof of that. Vendetta: Battle Royale was the first time since as far back as I can remember that Canibus has availed himself to an actual “battle” of this magnitude and guess what…he lost to a guy who is considered the “KOTD Champion” and only writes battle raps specifically for this arena at an event held in his hometown. Obviously the odds were against us.
If you are going to decide to no longer support Canibus than that is on you. If you think I’m to blame, than blame me. Do whatever makes you happy. I’ve always brought nothing but great opportunities to the table for Canibus and the myriad of other artists on my roster. It is unfortunate that Canibus took that L but the way I look at it from the perspective of a friend, a Canibus fan, and a Hip-Hop head, one moment cannot define, deteriorate, or destroy the legacy that we all know was, is, and forever will be CAN-I-BUS.
-M
Stringer Bell
June 12th, 2012, 1:12 AM
Damn so the full battle is on Youtube, I'm watching it now. It's fucking embarrassing quite honestly. Watching Canibus sway back and forth silently, then spit out awful, simple lines over and over. That was more uncomfortable than that video he put out a few months back staring in the camera.
Did he actually repeat that Elton John/Lebanon/Eminem line in both the 1st and 2nd rounds? Like fuck. Even while those rounds were decent, they were still SHIT by his standards. It almost seemed like it was intentional, but I don't see how anyone could be that stupid. Just bad stuff.
But for fuck's sake, Bert. Canibus has at least 3 classic albums. Yes, Childish Gambino is good, but he isn't the be all, end all of hip-hop. Haven't you said Eminem is one of your favorites? There's a ton of other good shit out there that you seem to dismiss or overlook. And it's not Hopsin.
G-Fresh
June 12th, 2012, 1:27 AM
I dig Donald Glover as a comedian, but he ain't got shit on Biz. Not the Biz of today and fuck sure not of 10 years ago.
Hopsin is just as fuckin wack. I'll edit his verse out of the song with ICP on MDP.
Bert
June 12th, 2012, 2:55 AM
But for fuck's sake, Bert. Canibus has at least 3 classic albums. Yes, Childish Gambino is good, but he isn't the be all, end all of hip-hop. Haven't you said Eminem is one of your favorites? There's a ton of other good shit out there that you seem to dismiss or overlook. And it's not Hopsin.
I don't like Canibus. I've never claimed Gambino was the be all end all of hiphop. Yes, Eminem is my favorite rapper. I listen to a lot of different rappers, I've just been posting Gambino songs because he's been releasing them. It's not rocket science.
Bert
June 12th, 2012, 3:32 AM
http://i.imgur.com/YVgxu.jpg
QuietStorm
June 12th, 2012, 3:52 AM
I don't know how he wrote 30 pages of rhymes with a broken arm. Must have been a pretty recent injury. Dude took a big L and everyone has a right to make fun of him. I'll still ride with the kid because I've been a fan since '98 and one horrible night can't ruin that. It was just unexplainable how it all happened. He only spit maybe one or two hot and fresh lines the whole time. Who knows how he got injured or how much preparing his 10,000-bar album took away from his focus toward this. I think he gave an effort to a degree as the 30 pages suggests, but I have no idea how he came up with such doo doo. Even though it was kinda sweet to hear him go into "I'll battle you on the net, I'll battle you in the flesh", that was the moment I knew this thing was going to spiral. You can't use 15-year old shit and get away with it. I can't defend him, it was awful and pathetic.
I do love seeing Dizaster defending Canibus on Twitter to a degree and instead directing his hatred toward LL. No one has been shat on in the industry like Canibus and much of it still stems from LL being a bitch. Dizaster sees that. I have nothing but respect for him.
Bert
June 12th, 2012, 4:45 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Fyi8z.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/2j1nbza.jpg
http://oi47.tinypic.com/2j1jw90.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gMyC0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZTzcB.jpg
Simon
June 12th, 2012, 4:48 AM
. Haven't you said Eminem is one of your favorites?
Are you saying this is a bad thing? Em is one of the best of all time. He had his wilderness years like most long-standing artists but you still can't really fuck with SSLP or MMLP. He's not quite on the level of Nas, Biggie, Pac or Jay-Z, but he's in good company on the next tier down IMO.
Bert
June 12th, 2012, 4:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcRdsNqIW7o
QuietStorm
June 12th, 2012, 5:00 AM
A true Ripper! lol.
G-Fresh
June 12th, 2012, 5:21 AM
Eminem ain't the best white rapper and for fuck sure ain't one of the best rappers of all time. Killah Priest is the best of all time and there ain't nobody fuckin with him. Monoxide, R.A. The Rugged Man, Slaine, Skrapz, Celph Titled, George Zelaya, & Block McCloud are all white dudes that dominate Em on the mic.
Bert
June 12th, 2012, 5:40 AM
Killah Priest is good, but best of all time? :blah:
Celph Titled is the only one I've heard of and he ain't as good as Em, bro.
UncannyIowan
June 12th, 2012, 10:56 AM
There are a lot of emcees better than Eminem, just like there are a lot of emcees better than Jay-Z, the most money doesn't necessarily always mean the best talent. Just the best at expressing their product to the masses in a way that captivates them to spread praise and spend money.
Monoxide? I would've put Madrox in his place. lol @ Skrapz.
A-Roc and Arctor "Surviving the Machine" is the future.
Simon
June 12th, 2012, 11:00 AM
Is it really necessary to divide rappers by race at this point?
UncannyIowan
June 12th, 2012, 11:02 AM
Is it really necessary to divide rappers by race at this point?
Unfortunately yes, but that's part of the culture, to make sure you point out every single obvious feature of a person if they're not black and from the Bronx.
G-Fresh
June 12th, 2012, 11:18 AM
Monoxide? I would've put Madrox in his place. lol @ Skrapz.
Chainsmoker is the one Psy album I can play for friends that ain't juggalos that they dig. As for Skrapz. 12 Step Program is amazing.
Ill Bill and Lyrics Born are both fuckin raw too.
I'm still convinced that the deal with Strange and Ill Bill fell apart cause Tech didn't want a rapper on his label that was better than him.
UncannyIowan
June 12th, 2012, 11:49 AM
Which is sad because Chainsmoker kinda blows, especially compared to Madrox's Phatso album. Ill Bill is fuckin wild, Strange would've had a sick dark label with Tech N9ne, Prozak, BLH, and Ill Bill all under the same umbrella.
Simon
June 12th, 2012, 11:50 AM
Unfortunately yes, but that's part of the culture, to make sure you point out every single obvious feature of a person if they're not black and from the Bronx.
In battle rapping maybe. I can honestly say the race of rappers doesn't even enter my head nowadays. It was still a relatively novel thing to see a white rapper when Eminem came out, but surely nowadays with the number of white rappers and equally the number of black rappers with stereotypically 'white' influences (can't be arsed to get into the history of rock and roll etc, we'll be here all day, but it is fair to say that the rock influences on '99 Problems, Drop The World etc would be considered 'white' music), it is a non-issue at this point.
Simon
June 12th, 2012, 11:52 AM
Fuck I remember Ill Bill I was bang into that, Non-Phixion, Necro shit for a while. Necro's first album (I Need Drugs?) was fucking great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w-sNlapoas
DOPE
UncannyIowan
June 12th, 2012, 12:08 PM
Necro's "Gory Days" is a great album.
I'm actually pumped for new Cage.
G-Fresh
June 12th, 2012, 1:39 PM
Which is sad because Chainsmoker kinda blows, especially compared to Madrox's Phatso album. Ill Bill is fuckin wild, Strange would've had a sick dark label with Tech N9ne, Prozak, BLH, and Ill Bill all under the same umbrella.
I don't really like Phatso at all. The Earth 2 version is kinda cool.
All 3 of these dudes body this shit. Especially Rugged Man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWoXexJphwo
QuietStorm
June 12th, 2012, 3:08 PM
Check out some R.A. Dude is the shit.
Fro
June 12th, 2012, 3:43 PM
Aside from A Tribe Called Quest and Outkast, no one of any race is really touching Eminem's 3-album run from SSLP to Eminem Show.
UncannyIowan
June 12th, 2012, 4:37 PM
ATLiens is possibly the greatest album of any genre I've ever heard. POSSIBLY.
Matthew
June 12th, 2012, 6:29 PM
A-Roc and Arctor "Surviving the Machine" is the future.lol
G-Fresh
June 12th, 2012, 6:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFKDecmgS5Q
Simon
June 12th, 2012, 7:15 PM
Aside from A Tribe Called Quest and Outkast, no one of any race is really touching Eminem's 3-album run from SSLP to Eminem Show.
Illmatic/It Was Written/I Am is the closest I can think of off the top of my head. Looking at Nas' discography, if the original Nastradamus hadn't been bootlegged to the point that it had to be completely remade with new tracks, arguably Nas would have had SIX straight classics from Illmatic to God's Son.
I was expecting to look back at Pac's discography and easily find three classics in a row, but looking back I'm not even sure he had three bonafide classics altogether. Me Against The World and 7 Day Theory sure, but each of his other albums is patchy at least to a point. Weird for someone with such an incredible back catalogue of great tracks.
G-Fresh
June 13th, 2012, 2:49 AM
A-Roc and Arctor "Surviving the Machine" is the future.
lol @ Skrapz? LOL Skrapz rips them wack fucks apart.
Psycho666Soldier
June 13th, 2012, 12:14 PM
Chainsmoker is the one Psy album I can play for friends that ain't juggalos that they dig.
I have the same experience with that album. Great beats, and Monoxide spits in a style so different from the typical Twiztid and Psychopathic fare that I pretty much consider it a stand-alone album.
Which is sad because Chainsmoker kinda blows, especially compared to Madrox's Phatso album.I couldn't disagree with you any more. I love the Chainsmoker album, and I think is one of the best albums Psychopathic has put out since 2004. It had me hyped for Phatso since I always felt Madrox was the better MC, and then I bought it and thought it was a major let-down.
Psycho666Soldier
June 13th, 2012, 12:19 PM
Illmatic/It Was Written/I Am is the closest I can think of off the top of my head. Looking at Nas' discography, if the original Nastradamus hadn't been bootlegged to the point that it had to be completely remade with new tracks, arguably Nas would have had SIX straight classics from Illmatic to God's Son.
I was expecting to look back at Pac's discography and easily find three classics in a row, but looking back I'm not even sure he had three bonafide classics altogether. Me Against The World and 7 Day Theory sure, but each of his other albums is patchy at least to a point. Weird for someone with such an incredible back catalogue of great tracks.
I dunno, I think 2Pacalypse Now and Strictly for my N.I.G.G.A.Z. are filled with classics. There's not a track on either album I don't love.
I'd also put Gang Starr against Eminem any day, unless we're actually taking into account how much fame the artist has achieved with his work, too.
Bert
June 13th, 2012, 2:12 PM
Canibus explained what happened on his tumblr. Makes perfect sense now.
Recently, I had an incident that caused an atomic-like reaction on to the world wide web. I stepped into a lyrical battlefield to face a challenger who was worthy of my best, yet, could not receive the best of what The Ripper could present due to complicated circumstances. Unfortunately, Rippers, I could not be at my best and my explanation for this is something only someone with a proper attached device in their mechanism can comprehend.
A few days before the KOTD Vendetta event, I was abducted by human blood sucking leeches who did not make their identity known, but I assume were agents of the dark world. While in my vehicle ready to pay for a toll, a helicopter attached with a satellite device that promotes fear flew directly over me. Upon being aware of what was happening I decided to escape on foot and flee from this radioactive device that can cause mental and emotional harm to any man- Even a man who possesses the brain waves of a complicated degree such as myself. As I abandoned my vehicle, I got to a fence and as I climbed underneath, the helicopter got visual contact on its target and there was nothing I could do. Completely lost in a parallel universe I was removed from consciousness and as I woke up I had secret agents of some kind asking me why I decided to battle in this event that was being broadcasted world-wide. I explained to them it was strictly Hip Hop related but they did not believe me. They used Chinese water torture methods at first to try to break my spirits to no avail. They attached wires to my skull and moved on to “Alternative 2.” They then inquired about my knowledge of secret societies and about my experiences in the military.
Something I never told anybody is that one morning, while in the military, I was woken up and interrogated for 86 hours straight about all the infinite rhymes that I had released. They inquired about how I received the findings of this information and how I was capable of putting it in a 4 bar measured instrumental. They conducted various studies and also got a hold of all the infinite rhymes I hadn’t even released yet. Somehow some way I lost all memory of these rhymes… yet I remember everything else. Now back to the KOTD situation. As I was being interrogated by these agents recently I managed to escape thanks to one of the agents who was a fan of mine. I asked him what his favorite Canibus verse was and he told me that he doesn’t know me as Canibus but rather as Subject 9. This man was kind enough to help me escape but eventually I was hit with some type of dart in the back of my neck and the last thing I remember was falling on the back of my head (hence the stitches). I woke up in the back of a cop car then asked the officers why my head was bleeding and my shoulder felt separated. They said they found me like that and that I should have a better understanding of what happened to me. They asked me if I remembered anything and I told them “No.” It was the safest move to make because they could easily have been disguised agents ordered to see what my mental state was like.
The day of the battle my memory and mental state wasn’t 100% due to these circumstances. I knew this so I brought my copybook to practice the 30 plus pages of infinite rhymes that I had structured for Dizaster. The stitches in the back of my head were hurting me and my shoulder was killing me but The Ripper doesn’t need medication, he controls pain with his mind. At the event I was very confident with the likes of Supernatural behind me and the guy who’s strong stomach was showing- But to protect him from any abduction I won’t reveal his name- Lets just call him Subject 10. The crowd showed me energy as well and as I delivered my first round I could see in Dizaster’s eyes he was intimidated by the mind with the infinite rhyme. Eventually the traumatic effect I suffered days before caught up to me and I could no longer be as sharp as I needed to be. The fans paid money, as did the KOTD staff, so even though there was nothing left in my mental tank, I reached for what is now the infamous notepad and decided to read my infinite rhymes. Needless to say, the results were underwhelming and it didn’t look right, but now, realizing the actions that preceded the event I’m sure you all understand.
Firstly, I want to apologize first to ‘Subject 10’ whose vehicle I abandoned when the agents were approaching me. Secondly, I’d like to apologize to Supernat because I made him come support me and stand behind me for that embarrassment. Thirdly, I’d like to apologize to all The Rippers in attendance who I let down. Finally, I’d like to apologize to Dizaster and the entire KOTD staff. I tried my best and stood there like the solider I am but there was nothing I can do. As I said in the event, I could only do what I can do. For everyone who seems to be making a mockery out of my just- Remember this; dinosaurs once ruled the planet, Rome was once a powerhouse, The Blazers drafted Greg Oden, and every dog has its day. Doubt me and you will be defeated.
QuietStorm
June 13th, 2012, 2:21 PM
God, you are a fucking idiot just like hiphopdx picking up this false story.
Here is his actual response, which he posted an hour ago:
Canibus HERE,
Just got my stitches out today. Will be going to therapy once a week for my AC injury. First time I've had a separated shoulder but I am expecting a full recovery in time. Also continuing work on the Rip The Jacker 2 DVD. Will continue to keep you all updated as things happen. Don't really know what to say concerning all these blogs, parodies, and fake accounts posting apologies about god knows what but I am moving forward for my Rippers and Hip Hop as best as I can. Thank You for your good wishes and encouragement. Sometimes people need laughter and entertainment at the expense of others embarrassment but Hip Hop means so much to me I don't care. Diz is the champ. Please be kind to one another and don't forget we are all family in this Hip Hop Community whether we know it or not.
Peace,
Bis
Bert
June 13th, 2012, 2:27 PM
Sounds like an imposter to me.
QuietStorm
June 13th, 2012, 2:29 PM
One is posted on a fake tumblr account before hipdoxdx.com picks up the story, then quickly takes it down after they realize they'd been had. The other actual response is on Bis' actual Facebook account. Keep yapping though.
UncannyIowan
June 13th, 2012, 4:11 PM
I have the same experience with that album. Great beats, and Monoxide spits in a style so different from the typical Twiztid and Psychopathic fare that I pretty much consider it a stand-alone album.
I couldn't disagree with you any more. I love the Chainsmoker album, and I think is one of the best albums Psychopathic has put out since 2004. It had me hyped for Phatso since I always felt Madrox was the better MC, and then I bought it and thought it was a major let-down.
That's not saying much since practically every non-Twiztid album since 2000 has been maybe a 4 out of 10 at best. I find myself in this situation with cats you and DVDA's age, the fans who are more into what they've done in the last decade than the 90's.
I think Phatso has better beats, better concepts, Madrox is for sure the better MC there's no question about that. Monoxide's flow on Chainsmoker and the Mutant albums were pretty bland, he would basically run 2 lines together and stop, run 2 lines together and stop, repeated that over and over and it was like you could take any beat from any song he's been on around that time and it would've been the same exact song. To me it sounded rush compared to other projects, and I think it was because Monoxide's always been negative about himself doing solo projects, which is why Chainsmoker is the only one he's ever done, hell I think he's only done one track prior to this album all by himself and that was in HOK.
Chris Scott
June 13th, 2012, 4:21 PM
This is bizarre and difficult to watch. I've seen him rap for an hour straight without forgetting a line once, but then this happens? Just bizarre. He was actually rolling pretty good in the first round, then some of the second. But then it was just a complete and utter trainwreck. It's almost like its his CTHS Pt. 2, but I don't even think he could troll this hard.
It was not the greatest of days and I was braced for the possibility it could happen. Needless to say, it went as badly as anyone could have hoped. Dizaster was in his element and Canibus was not in his in the slightest.
Like Canibus said, he is technical. He has made damn good albums throughout his career. How many albums does Dizaster have out? They are both great at what they do, but just far different in how they go about it. You put Canibus and Dizaster on a co-album, Canibus has the best verses 10 tracks out of 10. You have them battle three rounds, Dizaster will always win. Canibus has not put in the work in that field that Dizaster has.
Tonight, Dizaster was in his zone and Canibus was somewhere he probably should not have agreed to be. Props to Bis for having the balls to do this, it took a real man to be front and center like that. It just backfired.
I'm always going to remember Canibus for the outstanding albums, mixtape stuff, and all the other material he has put out in his career. And I'm going to listen the shit out of the 10,000 bars. I won't be remember this one bad night in his career, no matter how many fans and haters will never let this night go. The industry loved tonight.
This was probably not the best way to promote an album so large it costs $75 and is on a DVD.
Yeah I read what happened and didn't want to see it but I just did before. As a Canibus fan that was hard to watch, he stated off well too. Worst thing is since I've been watching rap battles for like 2 years Dizaster is the one I dislike the most so anyone but him, but props to him cos he is excellent.
Like you said though I obviously won't just remember this night like many others will.
Matthew
June 13th, 2012, 6:03 PM
lol @ Skrapz? LOL Skrapz rips them wack fucks apart.dont talk about UI like that
Fro
June 13th, 2012, 9:04 PM
I haven't watched the Canibus battle yet. I should probably check that out. I'm curious how many PPV buys it got
Illmatic/It Was Written/I Am is the closest I can think of off the top of my head. Looking at Nas' discography, if the original Nastradamus hadn't been bootlegged to the point that it had to be completely remade with new tracks, arguably Nas would have had SIX straight classics from Illmatic to God's Son.
That implies you think I Am is a classic as released, which I would disagree with (and I bought that shit when it dropped too - I remember the 3D video for Hate Me Now being released on TRL). It definitely has some rubbish to go along with the handful of classic songs.
I dunno, I think 2Pacalypse Now and Strictly for my N.I.G.G.A.Z. are filled with classics. There's not a track on either album I don't love.
I'd also put Gang Starr against Eminem any day, unless we're actually taking into account how much fame the artist has achieved with his work, too.
Gang Starr is a great shout. They have 4 straight classics, maybe even 5 if you want to include The Ownerz.
G-Fresh
June 13th, 2012, 9:22 PM
That's not saying much since practically every non-Twiztid album since 2000 has been maybe a 4 out of 10 at best. I find myself in this situation with cats you and DVDA's age, the fans who are more into what they've done in the last decade than the 90's.
I think Phatso has better beats, better concepts, Madrox is for sure the better MC there's no question about that. Monoxide's flow on Chainsmoker and the Mutant albums were pretty bland, he would basically run 2 lines together and stop, run 2 lines together and stop, repeated that over and over and it was like you could take any beat from any song he's been on around that time and it would've been the same exact song. To me it sounded rush compared to other projects, and I think it was because Monoxide's always been negative about himself doing solo projects, which is why Chainsmoker is the only one he's ever done, hell I think he's only done one track prior to this album all by himself and that was in HOK.
Monoxide is the better of the 2 and has been since they laid down their guest verses on 1 Less G over 10 years ago.
Psycho666Soldier
June 13th, 2012, 11:11 PM
That's not saying much since practically every non-Twiztid album since 2000 has been maybe a 4 out of 10 at best. I find myself in this situation with cats you and DVDA's age, the fans who are more into what they've done in the last decade than the 90's.
I think Phatso has better beats, better concepts, Madrox is for sure the better MC there's no question about that. Monoxide's flow on Chainsmoker and the Mutant albums were pretty bland, he would basically run 2 lines together and stop, run 2 lines together and stop, repeated that over and over and it was like you could take any beat from any song he's been on around that time and it would've been the same exact song. To me it sounded rush compared to other projects, and I think it was because Monoxide's always been negative about himself doing solo projects, which is why Chainsmoker is the only one he's ever done, hell I think he's only done one track prior to this album all by himself and that was in HOK.
I dunno, I loved what Monoxide did with Chainsmoker. Phatso just didn't capture me like I felt it did. It's nowhere near as good as his solo shit as Mr. Bones(which is probably a given), and I feel he had such a better album in him. I guess it comes down to preference, really. Also, Mutant and almost everything after sucks, but I thought Man's Myth was tight as hell. Perhaps Phatso has better concepts, but I like Chainsmoker's beats and flow better, which like I said, is surprising since I love Madrox way more on the mic.
Monoxide is the better of the 2 and has been since they laid down their guest verses on 1 Less G over 10 years ago.
See, this, I don't know if I can agree with that. Monoxide has sick flow, and he got way better as time went on, but I think Madrox has always had an edge over him, and is a bit smarter lyrically.
Gang Starr is a great shout. They have 4 straight classics, maybe even 5 if you want to include The Ownerz.
Absolutely. I don't believe in a bad Gang Starr song, though I've heard very little of The Ownerz. All of them are gems, but the album Moment of Truth is such an evolution in Premier's production, while Guru keeps up that untouchable flow.
G-Fresh
June 13th, 2012, 11:18 PM
Don't get me wrong. I love me some Madrox. I just dig Monoxide's flow and lyrics more.
Madrox comes correct on this harder than I have heard him in a while
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht6sLtStck8
Bert
June 13th, 2012, 11:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkTQij5O7g4
They got him to sing Baby One More Time.
:lol:
Bert
June 13th, 2012, 11:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le4_v2SU8aE
Joell's Joe Budden impression. :rofl:
QuietStorm
June 14th, 2012, 12:40 AM
While we are on the battle tip, anyone who is into the whole battle scene.... let's rank our faves:
For me, it goes:
1. K-Shine
I think he took the top spot for me after the KOTD event. Thought he put on the most entertaining part of the show against Password, a very good battler in his own right. Zip 'Em Up.
2. DNA
If anyone has ever gotten the best of Dizaster, it's DNA. It was a brilliant performance.
3. Illmaculate
He didn't put on the greatest display against Arsenal, but the guy has a stellar battling career. I think he was pretty wasted by the time he went on. I might be a bit biased because of my love of the Sandpeople crew.
Most hated:
1. Arsenal
He just rubs me the wrong way. The way he tries to speak over other battlers as they deliver their lines is so disrespectful. I think it threw Illmaculate off. No need for that.
2. Dizaster
Only because he murdered my man hahaha. I actually don't even think he did all that great, I've heard way better from him. He has handled himself with class afterward. Nothing but respect. Dude is a champ.
G-Fresh
June 14th, 2012, 12:44 AM
Franky fuckin Stacks
QuietStorm
June 14th, 2012, 3:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTFInSU4RTs
"Go ahead, laugh at him / bet you can't outrap him"
G-Fresh
June 14th, 2012, 3:24 AM
It's good that Biz knows what socialism does to society.
Simon
June 14th, 2012, 11:11 AM
Some more stuff I've been VIBESIN to recently...
Common - So Far To Go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdZK0HeYkwM
Kanye West - School Spirit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbjJLaw0338
Nas - Bridging The Gap
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9V0tdWSYLE
Nas - Book Of Rhymes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_p5ETttkO4
Xzibit - Eyes May Shine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMAWNpltURg
Xzibit - The Foundation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s3yQBgiQaY
Arrested Development - Since The Last Time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikb-dGMGgDM
The Roots - Can't Stop This
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d52bPy7cnwQ
Pharoahe Monch - Fuck You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FqbkKh8mro
Pharoahe Monch - Queens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0PqSbJL9Jo
Blak Twang - Ain't Done 2 Bad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRzMR3EhzaQ
Skinnyman - Council Estate Of Mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz49lnnzJak
Jehst - The Return Of The Drifter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGl85rkIvF4
Sage Francis - The Best Of Times
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA8hzUDXvtk
Jay-Z - Can I Live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC7MJ8l73SQ
Redman - Tonight's Da Night
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n9hAjs8yv0
Rakim - Documentary of a Gangsta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qcr9ZjqpUk
Lowkey/Immortal Technique - Voices Of The Voiceless
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi5ZUVP62Iw
Slaughterhouse - Warriors
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdHIBvJn-is
Enjoy big homies!
Fro
June 14th, 2012, 11:44 AM
Can't Stop This is probably my favorite song that ever got made from a Dilla beat post mortem. So dope.
Simon
June 14th, 2012, 11:48 AM
I find the uberlove for Dilla a bit perplexing, and after downloading his back catalogue I was quite underwhelmed, but despite being IMO somewhat inconsistent (I know this is bordering on heresy) some of his beats are just completely mind-blowing. I think that Common track I posted is a a Dilla as well.
QuietStorm
June 14th, 2012, 12:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFKDecmgS5Q
Also, I listen to "Best of Times" like once a week. Perfecto.
G-Fresh
June 14th, 2012, 5:25 PM
I find the uberlove for Dilla a bit perplexing, and after downloading his back catalogue I was quite underwhelmed, but despite being IMO somewhat inconsistent (I know this is bordering on heresy) some of his beats are just completely mind-blowing. I think that Common track I posted is a a Dilla as well.
Us people in the Midwest regard Dilla as a legend on the same level as Awesome Dre and Esham.
UncannyIowan
June 14th, 2012, 5:38 PM
I don't think it's so much the Midwest as the overall hip hop community due to his work with the likes of Tribe and Ghostface. You have to respect a young cat coming in, working with legends or future legends, and making some really phat beats. Dude was like a Kanye West-type before Kanye went ass.
Bert
June 15th, 2012, 3:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg2RRHbICME
Pusha diss? :dunno:
Chris Scott
June 15th, 2012, 4:05 PM
While we are on the battle tip, anyone who is into the whole battle scene.... let's rank our faves:
For me, it goes:
1. K-Shine
I think he took the top spot for me after the KOTD event. Thought he put on the most entertaining part of the show against Password, a very good battler in his own right. Zip 'Em Up.
2. DNA
If anyone has ever gotten the best of Dizaster, it's DNA. It was a brilliant performance.
3. Illmaculate
He didn't put on the greatest display against Arsenal, but the guy has a stellar battling career. I think he was pretty wasted by the time he went on. I might be a bit biased because of my love of the Sandpeople crew.
Most hated:
1. Arsenal
He just rubs me the wrong way. The way he tries to speak over other battlers as they deliver their lines is so disrespectful. I think it threw Illmaculate off. No need for that.
2. Dizaster
Only because he murdered my man hahaha. I actually don't even think he did all that great, I've heard way better from him. He has handled himself with class afterward. Nothing but respect. Dude is a champ.
My current favourites are DNA and Dizaster, probably like DNA better his battle with Dizaster was class.
Hate Hollohan, can't stand the prick.
Stringer Bell
June 15th, 2012, 4:13 PM
I don't think it's so much the Midwest as the overall hip hop community due to his work with the likes of Tribe and Ghostface. You have to respect a young cat coming in, working with legends or future legends, and making some really phat beats. Dude was like a Kanye West-type before Kanye went ass.
Wait what? Dilla wasn't some "young cat" who came in.. Dilla was active putting in work since like 1993, and a lot of the people he worked with weren't legends at the time. He put out a ton of good stuff for over a decade, but unfortunately most of his love has come posthumously. In fact, none of his work with Ghostface was made while he was even alive.
I don't really see where the Kanye West comparison comes from. Because they both rap and produce?
Bert
June 15th, 2012, 4:25 PM
My current favourites are DNA and Dizaster, probably like DNA better his battle with Dizaster was class.
Hate Hollohan, can't stand the prick.
Maybe we should make a thread for good battles? There's a ton on youtube.
Dizaster is good but I love when he gets mad at fans for barely talking.
Illmaculate is pretty great in the battles I've seen, haven't watched the one with Arsenal though.
I feel bad for DNA after seeing the Road To 8 Mile finals where he was battling a guy from Detroit in Detroit. He had no chance. He had some good lines against Dizaster but I think Dizaster won.
Eurgh isn't bad, it's not always easy for me to understand what he's saying though.
Chris Scott
June 15th, 2012, 6:36 PM
I've not seen anything from Illmaculate I'll have to check some of his stuff. I still think in my opinion DNA just edged it against Dizaster, it was the 3rd round for me that done it.
Think a thread would be a good idea :yes:
G-Fresh
June 15th, 2012, 6:50 PM
He ain't got shit on Dirt Nasty.
Stringer Bell
June 15th, 2012, 10:38 PM
I'm not huge on the battle rap scene, but Illmaculate is definitely good. Also a big fan of DumFounDead.
Iron Solomon is quality. Goofy, but good.
QuietStorm
June 16th, 2012, 5:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHyiVqfMRsc
UncannyIowan
June 18th, 2012, 3:33 PM
Wait what? Dilla wasn't some "young cat" who came in.. Dilla was active putting in work since like 1993, and a lot of the people he worked with weren't legends at the time. He put out a ton of good stuff for over a decade, but unfortunately most of his love has come posthumously. In fact, none of his work with Ghostface was made while he was even alive.
I don't really see where the Kanye West comparison comes from. Because they both rap and produce?
Notice I said "legends or future legends".
He was a young cat compared to the dudes he came in to work with like Tribe, who had been around a few years already. I don't necessarily mean young cat as in he was 13 years old either, but he was young to the game/industry.
The Kanye reference was me comparing their styles and how they were working with big name artists pretty much right out the gate. Look @ Kanye, working with the likes of Eminem and Jay-Z early on as opposed to spending 15 years making beats for underground Chicago artists. Sure they both rap and produce, but it was more tied in to what I was saying about J Dilla working with the likes of Tribe Called Quest early on in his career that helped blow up his name.
The part about Ghostface was me pointing out a big name artist that he's worked with, I should've made it clearer for you bro my bad.
Bert
June 19th, 2012, 2:57 AM
http://i.imgur.com/jszeK.jpg
http://wwww.mediafire.com/?b4wi1yjemjpanh8
Bert
June 19th, 2012, 2:10 PM
http://i.imgur.com/N9Idj.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijl_zlxc0LU
Stringer Bell
June 20th, 2012, 3:56 AM
Notice I said "legends or future legends".
He was a young cat compared to the dudes he came in to work with like Tribe, who had been around a few years already. I don't necessarily mean young cat as in he was 13 years old either, but he was young to the game/industry.
The Kanye reference was me comparing their styles and how they were working with big name artists pretty much right out the gate. Look @ Kanye, working with the likes of Eminem and Jay-Z early on as opposed to spending 15 years making beats for underground Chicago artists. Sure they both rap and produce, but it was more tied in to what I was saying about J Dilla working with the likes of Tribe Called Quest early on in his career that helped blow up his name.
The part about Ghostface was me pointing out a big name artist that he's worked with, I should've made it clearer for you bro my bad.
Eh.. I mean really, J Dilla was already pretty established by the time he worked with Trube, mostly through work he did with local guys. Ever hear of Slum Village, Proof, or Phat Kat? And to be fair, his work with ATCQ wasn't all THAT impactful, if anything it helped Dilla more than anyone. The music was good, but most of it was in the Tribe's 4th album which was pretty widely dismissed at the time, and b-side remixes.
As for Kanye, he kinda did exactly what you said. 15 years though? Pretty extreme. Kanye was in a group called Heavy Hitters for awhile, and definitely produced for a TON of underground Chicago guys. His early collaboration with Eminem was before Em had even blown up, so it's kind of irrelevant. Even when he hit the mainstream industry he was doing beats for crappy projects like Mase's Harlem World group. It actually took Kanye quite awhile to make it to Jay, I dunno why you think otherwise.
Just don't see what you're saying at all, honestly.
Bert
June 20th, 2012, 4:05 AM
Just don't see what you're saying at all, honestly.
You can cut and paste that as a reply to any Iowan post.
MikeHunt
June 20th, 2012, 5:48 AM
Is the ASAP mob miz tape out yet?
Fro
June 20th, 2012, 1:40 PM
Finally giving the Killer Mike album a proper listen and it is really good.
Bert
June 20th, 2012, 6:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB9nFiJChDo
I'm still mad the Everybody Down video never came out.
Stringer Bell
June 20th, 2012, 7:52 PM
Oh yeah, that Killer Mike album, and the El-P album also, are two of my favorite this year. El really killed all of the beats, incredible shit.
That Slaughterhouse single is so poppy and commercial but I still kinda like it for some reason.
And goddamnit, looks like Studioleaks is down now. Anybody got any alternatives?
Fro
June 20th, 2012, 10:34 PM
I think it was just down temporarily because it seems fine to me now.
That Slaighterhouse video was amusing but kinda lame at times. Like I'd rather see them actually sitting on a project stoop rather than green screening everything. Cee lo just looks really fat lol.
I'm still anticipating their album but the singles have dulled that enthusiasm to some extent. Neither of them blew me away liked I'd hoped.
Edit: okay now SL is down but I swear I had it up a minute ago. Hopefully just a minor issue.
Stringer Bell
June 20th, 2012, 11:26 PM
I haven't been able to get it to load for the past 2 nights. Really trying to get my hands on a proper rip of the Smoke DZA/Harru Fraud album, the new Alchemist, and whatever else may have dropped.
Bert
June 20th, 2012, 11:35 PM
http://i.imgur.com/wZFGG.jpg
http://www.sharebeast.com/4pjwwz2kr61p
http://i.imgur.com/SjWFF.jpg
http://www.sharebeast.com/oa1flkro9exg
QuietStorm
June 21st, 2012, 1:59 AM
Aesop Rock's "Skelethon" comes out July 10th, then Brother Ali the following month. If anyone fucking cares.
Bert
June 21st, 2012, 2:02 AM
I really liked Zero Dark Thirty and I'm looking forward to Aesop's album. Not really familiar with Brother Ali though.
Why do you sound so whiny?
QuietStorm
June 21st, 2012, 2:12 AM
I'm in a great mood, just like Ali here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w9IpEwrtJ4
Bert
June 21st, 2012, 2:51 AM
http://i.imgur.com/l5abm.jpg
http://www.sharebeast.com/wlwysk5ajpah
QuietStorm
June 21st, 2012, 3:12 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYI_UG-xQVo
Bert
June 21st, 2012, 7:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dMBD7GcVzg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsK-OxJQJP8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FjAlpAOKNs
Stringer Bell
June 22nd, 2012, 2:33 AM
Seeing Vinnie Paz get his haircut in that video is like some other worldly shit. Just bizarre lol. Wish there were more raps about actual cheessteaks in the song.
That Smoke DZA album :yes: So fucking good. I love Harry Fraud, he might be my favorite producer out right now. Dude makes average/subpar rappers sound awesome and good rappers sound incredible. It's probably Smoke DZA's best work too, which is no small task because dude has been putting out a ton of quality projects over the last few years.
Also suggest you guys go check out that Oddisee People Hear What They See album. Dude is one of my favorite artists from the DMV area, super consistent. I don't think he's ever dropped a disappointing project, maybe even song for that matter. All of his stuff is worth checking out (including his group Diamond District) but this is his newest and it's excellent.
Self Made 2 also sounds really good. I love "Power Circle", everyone does really well, was especially impressed with my man GUNPLAY. Weren't people in here saying he couldn't rap a few months ago? He raps his fucking ass off on the 2nd verse of that song. Far more entertaining than STALLEY, who bores me to tears for some reason. The guy is just so generic. Don't get me wrong, he makes some decent music, but he's a terrible fit with MMG. They should have kept Pill, or went for someone like Dom Kennedy or a New York guy.
Definitely excite for the Aesop Rock album. Psyched that he's producing the whole thing, although I will miss the Blockhead beats. Bunch of new Cage shit on the way too and it sounds stellar so far :yes:
Brother Ali's never been my favorite, but I definitely appreciate his talent. Always check out his stuff so this one will be no different.
Bert, is that link to the Alchemist album you posted a good rip? The one I got was shitty quality, could barely listen to it.
Hyped for the Nas record.. the Ross track is cool but I have a feeling he's saving the best stuff for the album like he usually does. Definitely hyped for Aesop Rock too, Cage of course.. the new Rick Ross should be fun. ASAP Rocky and ASAP Mob have stuff coming. Action Bronson should be dropping some new stuff, I know he's got 2 full albums completed with Alchemist and Harry Fraud, respectively. Slaughterhouse will definitely be worth checking out. Prodigy's dropping a new solo which will have amazing production if nothing else. La Coka Nostra has a new one coming.. wow so much shit. Wish the GOOD Music album was coming before August but there should be plenty to listen to until then. I'm sure I'm forgetting stuff too.
Also while looking up release dates I saw Frank Ocean something coming on July 17th called Channel Orange. First I have heard of it but I can't wait for that one either.
Bert
June 22nd, 2012, 3:00 AM
It said proper rip where I got it from.
I'm really loving this Crooked I mixtape, that track Nikki keeps getting stuck in my head. Crooked is so underrated.
I'm waiting for the Gambino mixtape, Slaughterhouse album, Aesop Rock album, Jon Connor mixtape, Hopsin album, Nas album and whatever else randomly appears.
I just looked up Oddisee and I'm feeling it, I'll get some of his stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgopVOg2ifk
mp3 Download:
http://go.madmimi.com/redirects/1339501124-35e59c998f68c30b87f1c44842cdeaf6-e4689b6?pa=9836794697
QuietStorm
June 22nd, 2012, 4:02 AM
You know what, I love all of you guys.
Bert
June 22nd, 2012, 4:28 AM
Someone's high or listening to a new Canibus mixtape.
QuietStorm
June 22nd, 2012, 5:04 AM
Drunk but not high. I only wish there was a new Canibus mixtape. The one last one seems so long ago. Need 10,000 bars now! I'm tweaking!
QuietStorm
June 22nd, 2012, 5:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBxa-KTuhCo
Does it still sound bad? It's not quite as bad, is it? lol.
Bert
June 22nd, 2012, 4:31 PM
Life is Good tracklist:
1. “No Introduction” (Produced by J.U.S.T.I.C.E. League)
2. “Loco-Motive” feat. Large Professor (Produced by No I.D.)
3. “A Queens Story” (Produced by Salaam Remi)
4. “Accident Murderers” feat. Rick Ross (Produced by No I.D.)
5. “Daughters” (Produced by No I.D.)
6. “Reach Out” feat. Mary J. Blige (Produced by Salaam Remi, Rodney Jerkins, DJ Hot Day & Nas)
7. “World’s An Addiction” feat. Anthony Hamilton (Produced by Salaam Remi)
8. “Summer on Smash” feat. Miguel & Swizz Beatz (Produced by Swizz Beatz)
9. “You Wouldn’t Understand” feat. Victoria Monet (Produced by Buckwild)
10. “Back When” (Produced by No I.D.)
11. “The Don” (Produced by Salaam Remi, Heavy D & Da Internz)
12. “Stay” (Produced by No I.D.)
13. “Cherry Wine” feat. Amy Winehouse (Produced by Salaam Remi)
14. “Bye Baby” (Produced by Salaam Remi & 40)
Deluxe
15. “Nasty” (Produced by Salaam Remi)
16. “The Black Bond” (Produced by Salaam Remi)
17. “Roses” (Produced by Al Shux)
18. “Where’s The Love” feat. Cocaine 80s (Produced by No I.D.)
Bonus track for iTunes: “Trust” (Produced by Boi-1da)
Bonus track for Japan: “The Don (Don Dada Remix)” (Produced by Salaam Remi & Heavy D)
RuneEdge
June 22nd, 2012, 4:39 PM
Is that confirmed?
Stringer Bell
June 22nd, 2012, 5:44 PM
Yeah, that's official. Also, I'm never really one to judge an album off the tracklist alone, but damn that looks good. No ID and Salaam all over the place, Justice League, Buckwild.. even 40 should bring something good. The features look :yes: too.
RuneEdge
June 22nd, 2012, 6:16 PM
That's probably one of the "best looking" tracklists I've seen in quite some time.
Fro
June 22nd, 2012, 8:46 PM
Yeah definitely glad to see No ID on there, which makes sense since Nas and Common has been collabing lately. I know the song with Rick Ross just leaked but I haven't listened yet.
Bert
June 23rd, 2012, 12:46 AM
Frank Ocean's new mixtape tracklist:
http://i.imgur.com/qJ848.jpg
Bert
June 25th, 2012, 2:12 PM
Gambino mixtape release date:
http://i.imgur.com/FedJu.jpg
MikeHunt
June 25th, 2012, 3:23 PM
Frank Ocean's new mixtape tracklist:
http://i.imgur.com/qJ848.jpg
Is that not frank oceans actual album?
UncannyIowan
June 25th, 2012, 4:58 PM
Anyone that can put out an album with Andre 3000, John Mayer, and fuckin Earl Sweatshirt of all people, it's gotta be dope. Andre 3000, possibly the most underrated rapper of all time. People kind of forget just how dope Outkast were, ATLiens stands so far above most rap albums, especially these days, and I'm not talking about mainstream only.
Snatchin this up for sure.
MikeHunt
June 25th, 2012, 5:04 PM
I'm pretty sure outkast are not underrated. Every album they released was a critical success and have some of the biggest hiphop hits ever.
Anyone know when the ASAP mob mixtape comes out?
UncannyIowan
June 25th, 2012, 5:13 PM
I'm pretty sure outkast are not underrated. Every album they released was a critical success and have some of the biggest hiphop hits ever.
Anyone know when the ASAP mob mixtape comes out?
Outkast putting out great music and all that doesn't mean Andre 3000 isn't constantly left out of top 10 lists, constantly overlooked when people talk about the greats. I don't know, I guess I just get sick of the same 10-15 dudes getting props and Andre's rarely one of them when he's incredible. Like I said, Outkast does make great music, but individually I don't think they get their props.
Fro
June 25th, 2012, 7:27 PM
Andre gets his props, but he needs to put out a solo album already or Big Boi is going to surpass him. Chico Dusty was a classic.
Stringer Bell
June 26th, 2012, 12:45 AM
Dude, people fucking love Andre. I don't think I've ever seen people demand a solo record (or any for that matter besides maybe Detox) than the way they do for 3000.
People go nuts whenever he utters a word. On a track with Wayne and Drake? No worries. Walk It Out remix? Still fire. The man can literally do no wrong, except of course the fact he hasn't dropped a true rap solo record (and who knows if he will)
Not saying you're wrong, but Andre is pretty widely recognized for both his lyricism and pioneering ways.
Morrison
June 26th, 2012, 1:39 AM
for reals. i don't think i've ever met a single person, who is into hip hop in some form or fashion, who doesn't love andre.
MikeHunt
June 26th, 2012, 6:32 AM
NO YOU FUCKS NO ONE LIKES HIM!
Fro
June 26th, 2012, 8:57 AM
Andre from Outkast, Jada, Kurupt, Nas and then me
G-Fresh
June 26th, 2012, 9:58 AM
Kurupt is dope. Fuck that other noise.
UncannyIowan
June 26th, 2012, 10:58 AM
Never once said nobody liked him or anything close to that, just that it's hard to listen to people constantly throw out names and rarely is Andre mentioned until someone goes "What about Andre 3000?" Then they're like, OH YEAHHHH that dude is the fire. Outkast is the shit, but I think that people only remember the last 10 years as opposed to the first 2 records which just killed it, especially ATLiens. If Andre put out a solo record that was just straight up rap, there'd be no reason for me to purchase anything else after that release lol.
So again, I'm not saying no one likes him, just that he's underrated as fuck in the grand scheme of things. It's kind of like Dave Grohl, everyone pretty much considers him one of the best drummers ever, they have Nirvana on the brain more than Foo Fighters it seems, forgetting that he's also one of the best frontman of all time as well.
Bert
June 26th, 2012, 2:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4aI2-R5xkg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxbvZL9xL7E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIC3zGIAl1A
"He's featuring..."
:panic:
Bet they're mad he let that slip.
Bert
June 26th, 2012, 3:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnyuUel8D94
Stringer Bell
June 27th, 2012, 1:28 AM
:yes: Aesop
Brand new shit from Cage, under his "Sam Hill" alias, which is supposed to be his super dark, crazy shit more in lines with his older material. Liking this track, beat is kind of simple but he kills it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wREmmXfTZPA
Quality on that video is kind of shitty but you can hear/buy the song at http://cagewm.com/track/misanthrope
Bert
June 27th, 2012, 5:10 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rD4nQruvnw
Good song.
QuietStorm
June 27th, 2012, 1:02 PM
Sounds like that Cage track was made a decade ago. Awesome.
Bert
June 27th, 2012, 7:41 PM
http://m.prnewswire.com/news-releases/rap-supergroup-slaughterhouse-announces-august-28-release-date-for-welcome-to-our-house-shady-debut-160583295.html
Slaughterhouse has announced a new release date, August 28th, for welcome to: Our House
Fucking August, jesus christ.
Next single: July 2nd
Album cover:
http://i.imgur.com/BvboV.jpg
Fro
June 27th, 2012, 9:39 PM
My anticipation of that album is ever waning. I feel like it will never live up to the greatness that was Devil's Night.
Anyone seen the Ice T documentary in full yet? I'd like to check it out at some point.
Psycho666Soldier
June 27th, 2012, 9:46 PM
You're talking about Something From Nothing: The Art of Rap, right? I haven't seen it yet because the closest theater playing it is 3 hours from me, but whenever it gets released on DVD, I plan on ordering it immediately. From what Immortal Technique says, it's really good. He's in parts of it, so maybe that's a bit biased, but I usually trust his judgment.
QuietStorm
June 28th, 2012, 12:55 AM
Slaughterhouse is well on their way to being the greatest hip hop supergroup of all-time. :blah:
Bert
June 28th, 2012, 12:57 AM
They're already #2. There's not far to go anyway.
McBain
June 28th, 2012, 1:17 AM
No doubt someone's already posted about these guys, but I've just recently got into OFWGKTA and Death Grips. Loving them. Anyone else a fan of either?
McBain
June 28th, 2012, 1:27 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnsI67bHpmk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdpKPSjQ37Y
Psycho666Soldier
June 28th, 2012, 1:30 AM
Odd Future is pretty good. I haven't heard much of their material. I'm a bit more familiar with Tyler, The Creator on his own, but I love what I've heard from the OFWGKTA collective. Haven't ever heard of Death Grips, but looking at their wiki page, they sound incredibly interesting. I'll have to give 'em a listen.
QuietStorm
June 28th, 2012, 3:19 AM
They're already #2. There's not far to go anyway.
To say there is not far to go to get to Wu level is blasphemous.
Bert
June 28th, 2012, 3:43 AM
I can't embed videos not on youtube but Gambino said on 106 & Park that almost every song has features and that there's features from Bun B, RZA, and Paul Wall on the mixtape.
:panic:
Simon
June 28th, 2012, 11:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnsI67bHpmk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdpKPSjQ37Y
Good choice of Odd Future track. I like Oldie as well. Earl and Hodgy are beasts.
Bert
June 28th, 2012, 10:50 PM
Slaughterhouse's new single is out but I'm not even going to post it.
It doesn't sound great but I'm hoping it's because it's a censored tagged radio rip.
Stringer Bell
June 29th, 2012, 12:56 AM
This new Meyhem Lauren Respect the Fly Shit mixtape is CRUSHING. I swear, no one is seeing Harry Fraud on the beats right now. Dude can produce for underground guys like Action and Meyhem, then turn around and do a Wiz Khalifa featuring 50 Cent beat that's just as dope. Do not sleep on the stuff these guys (Harry, Action Bronson, Meyhem Lauren, AG Da Coroner) are doing, some of the freshest shit out in my opinion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_qKs2h0cIc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9qs-VM-4CM
Bert
June 29th, 2012, 2:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0_kbk92htY
QuietStorm
June 30th, 2012, 2:49 AM
Ahahahahahaha what a joke Slaughterhouse is. This new track with Swizz Beatz is cornballs. These guys aren't going pop at all!
QuietStorm
June 30th, 2012, 5:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31GeRnmUIpo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDbk-hMAyfU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzR8mgSMURA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNXZ0QbQXi0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5f8C4it8sA
HRSMN. No vowels.
Bert
July 2nd, 2012, 3:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URbrlnWhCLc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRZxcmrrw1A
Wow, that white guy P.W.T. actually killed it. Was not expecting that. :lol: @ Canibus line.
One-2 was good too.
Bert
July 2nd, 2012, 4:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oml9zGpHm18
This is awful.
G-Fresh
July 2nd, 2012, 4:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URbrlnWhCLc[/color][/font]
Slaine kills that shit.
Bert
July 2nd, 2012, 5:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jup9L_IxxOA
Stringer Bell
July 3rd, 2012, 1:34 AM
That Nas song is one of the best songs I've heard all year.
The new Pusha/Kanye, New God Flow, is a banger too. Love love love the Ghostface sample.
I didn't think the Ross track was awful, he had some good lines, but so far this album isn't shaping up to be anywhere near as good as Teflon Don. Everything so far is pretty mediocre really. Where's the JUSTICE League stuff, the Kanye stuff, etc.? C'mon Ross.
QuietStorm
July 3rd, 2012, 2:46 AM
Nas still has it. Yup yup yup.
QuietStorm
July 3rd, 2012, 3:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuUzuHdUovg&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_kopCIeb1Q&feature=related
Slaughterhouse, Doomtree.... both hip hop supergroups better than Slaughterhouse.
Bert
July 3rd, 2012, 3:57 AM
Slaughterhouse, Doomtree.... both hip hop supergroups better than Slaughterhouse.
I'm guessing you mean old Slaughterhouse is better than new Slaughterhouse, and I agree. I still have hope the rest of the songs on the album will be good though.
QuietStorm
July 3rd, 2012, 4:08 AM
Royce's only good album is Death is Certain, Crooked I has never released a solo album, Budden is more talk than bite, and I am a bit clueless on what Joell Ortiz has ever done. They are only anything together and together from my vantage point they only seem to care about money. Step your game up and quit getting fat off the money, Crooked I. And quit drinking your money, Royce. Budden is the best rapper in the group right now, I'll say that much. But the guy runs his mouth like he is the greatest of all-time.
Quit talking about how great you are and start proving it.
Bert
July 3rd, 2012, 7:07 PM
Why are you bringing albums into this when you were just talking about guys that are supposedly a better supergroup that I've never heard of who most likely haven't sold any albums? And the majority of rappers act like they're the best, that's nothing new.
http://i.imgur.com/GQCbN.jpg
#tomorrow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6HCq3lLExg
While You Were Sleepin' on July 26th.
MikeHunt
July 3rd, 2012, 7:09 PM
Joel Ortiz is fcking brilliant
Fro
July 3rd, 2012, 7:37 PM
I haven't really delved into Crooked I's work but I probably should since he's my favorite of that group currently. Where should I start?
Bert
July 3rd, 2012, 7:50 PM
I haven't really delved into Crooked I's work but I probably should since he's my favorite of that group currently. Where should I start?
The majority of the Hip Hop Weekly's (http://www.dubcnn.com/media/hiphopweekly/) and Hip Hop Weekly Reloaded's (http://www.defsounds.com/hip-hop-blogs/crooked-i-hip-hop-weekly-reloaded-full-series/) are really good. He talked about doing it again but he hasn't yet. Reloaded is only 15 songs while the original is 52.
Crooked I is so gifted lyrically, it just annoys me that he only talks about guns. If he talked about anything else I would rank him higher. For me it's Budden, Royce, Crooked, Joell.
As for actual mixtapes, I have all of them I think but there's so many duplicate songs it's kind of hard to say what you should download.
Westside Slaugtherhouse (http://mixtapemania.com/mixtape/crooked-i-westside-slaughterhouse/) is a good one and I really like Psalm 82:6 (http://www.mediafire.com/?b4wi1yjemjpanh8) that he just released, it's constantly in play for me.
Bert
July 3rd, 2012, 11:29 PM
http://i.imgur.com/LzLjh.png
A track with RZA and a track with Ghostface Killah, damn son.
Danny Brown track was expected. Even though Chance The Rapper opened for him when I saw him live I didn't expect a song with him. The title fits for Chance though. TINA FEY.
QuietStorm
July 4th, 2012, 2:13 AM
Frank Ocean came out as gay tonight. Very cool. However, it would be weird to all of a sudden see Tyler the Creator as an ambassador for acceptance.
Stringer Bell
July 4th, 2012, 2:13 AM
Who the fuck designed that cover? I can barely read any of it.
It's safe to say Frank Ocean's album is going to be pretty interesting..
Whoever you are, where ever you are, I’m starting to think we’re a lot alike. Human beings spinning on blackness. All wanting to be seen, touched, heard, paid attention to. My loved ones are everything to me here. In the last year or three, I’ve screamed at my creator, screamed at clouds in the sky for some explanation. Mercy maybe. For peace of mind to rain like Manna somehow.
Four summers ago, I met somebody. I was 19 years old; he was too. We spent that summer, and the summer after, together. Everyday almost. And on the days we were together, time would glide. Most of the day I’d see him and his smile. I’d hear his conversation and his silence until it was time to sleep. Sleep I would often share with him. By the time I realized I was in love, it was malignant. It was hopeless. It was no escaping, no negotiating with the feelings. No choice. It was my first love. It changed my life.
Back then, my mind would wander to the women I had been with, the ones I cared for and thought I was in love with. I reminisced about the sentimental songs I enjoyed when I was a teenager. The ones I played when I experienced a girlfriend for the first time. I realized they were written in a language I did not yet speak. I realized too much too quickly. Imagine being thrown from a plane. I wasn’t in a plane though. I was in a Nissan Maxima, the same car I packed up with bags and drove to Los Angeles in.
I sat there and told my friend how I felt. I wept as the words left my mouth. I grieved for them, knowing I could never take them back for myself. He patted my back. He said kind things. He did his best. But he wouldn’t admit the same.
He had to go back inside soon. It was late and his girlfriend was waiting for him upstairs. He wouldn’t tell me the truth about his feelings for me for another three years. I felt like I only imagined reciprocity for years. Now imagine being thrown from a cliff. No, I wasn’t on a cliff. I was still in my car telling myself it was gonna be fine and to take deep breaths. I took the breaths and carried on. I kept up a peculiar friendship with him because I couldn’t imagine keeping up my life without him. I struggled to master myself and my emotions. I wasn’t always successful.
The dance went on…I kept the rhythm for several summers after. It’s winter now. I’m typing this on a plane back to Los Angeles from New Orleans. I flew home for another marred Christmas. I have a window seat. It’s December 27th, 2011. By now I’ve written two albums. This being the second. I wrote to keep myself busy and sane. I wanted to created worlds that were rosier than mine. I tried to channel overwhelming emotions. I’m surprised at how far all of it has taken me.
Before writing this, I told some people my story. I’m sure these people kept me alive, kept me safe…sincerely, these are the folks I want to thank from the floor of my heart. Everyone of you knows who you are….
Great humans, probably angels. I don’t know what happens now, and that’s alright.
I don’t have any secrets I need kept anymore. There’s probably some small shit still, but you know what I mean. I was never alone, as much as I felt like it. As much as I still do sometimes. I never was. I don’t think I ever could be. Thanks.
To my first love, I’m grateful for you. Grateful that even though it wasn’t what I hoped for and even though it was never enough, it was. Some things never are…and we were. I won’t forget you. I won’t forget the summer. I’ll remember who I was when I met you. I’ll remember who you were and how we’ve both changed and stayed the same. I’ve never had more respect for life and living than I have right now.
Maybe it takes a near death experience to feel alive. Thanks.
To my mother, you raised me strong. I know I’m only brave because you were first, so thank you! All of you, for everything good. I feel like a free man. If I listen closely, I can hear the sky falling too.
Cliffnotes: He's gay or bi, and I believe this makes him the first prominent figure in the hip-hop world to come out as openly gay. More props to him honestly. If the kid can write a better song about pussy than the guys actually getting pussy, then let him write. Can't wait to hear the record.
Stringer Bell
July 4th, 2012, 2:21 AM
BTW.. for what it's worth, doesn't seem like Frank was ever actually trying to hide it... I had wondered about these lines in the past but shrugged them off...
On Acura Integurl: "I wrote a letter to this guy saying maybe one day you'll get to kiss me, my girl found it in the car and said baby why you trying to diss me?"
I always just assumed he said "letter to the sky" on that one..
Then on Oldie: "I'm high and I'm bi, wait -- I mean I'm straight"
That one was pretty blatant and I was actually surprised the ever homophobic hiphop community didn't pick up on it.
QuietStorm
July 4th, 2012, 3:02 AM
Tyler, The Creator <s>@</s>fucktyler (https://twitter.com/#%21/fucktyler) My Big Brother Finally Fucking Did That. Proud Of That Nigga Cause I Know That Shit Is Difficult Or Whatever. Anyway. Im A Toilet.
Stringer Bell
July 4th, 2012, 3:37 AM
I bet his @ replies have been a fucking mess all night. The thing is, that type of stuff (the over the top homophobia they've displayed in the past) is unfortunately just what's going to happen when you give a record deal to kids that young. It never offended me, but it definitely didn't add anything to the music (except maybe the immature rawness). I think they're slowly stepping away from that anyway.
Their DJ, Syd, has always been known to be gay, but it's obviously a lot different for a male like Frank.
I would say the kid is literally one of the best songwriters alive, especially in his genre. Might sound like a stretch, but who else is even on his level? He's leaps and bounds above most guys and he's only 24. Gonna have one hell of a career.
Funniest tweet/fb I saw all night though, was -- "So that means 'Strawberry Swing' was about a dude?"
Bert
July 4th, 2012, 3:50 AM
http://iamdonald.com/childishgambino
ITS OUT. YES. :panic:
QuietStorm
July 4th, 2012, 4:06 AM
It's gonna be a late night. Thanks. Bertrude.
Bert
July 4th, 2012, 4:52 AM
Ghostface track is just Ghost, a little disappointing.
Loving the song with Bun B.
Gambino's verse on American Royalty is identical to his shade 45 "Freestyle", it sounds great on the beat though.
And the verse from Toxic was the Funk Flex "freestyle" but also sounds good on the Britney Spears instrumental remix.
Chance The Rapper opened for him when I saw him last month, I didn't like him very much so I find that song title ironic. Always loved oh I think they like me though.
I really like Won't Stop. I usually like the tracks where he sings though.
I think Bronchitis is messed up, unless it's one of those things where lyrics were censored because they were too personal or something. I was trying to tell what the sample was towards the end but it's really distorted.
Wonderful feels like Outside part 2, at least content wise, that's not a bad thing though.
Kilo Kish who I've never heard of until now is ok on Make It Go Right but her voice is really soft and a lot of the lyrics run together. Probably better with headphones.
Real Estate is pretty good. Alley Boy another person I've never heard of has a pretty good verse. TINA FEY RAPPING. slfdjalfjdsalhdslfa :rofl:
Simon
July 4th, 2012, 4:54 AM
Bert mentions Childish Gambino.
son_of_foley
July 4th, 2012, 4:57 AM
His mixtape dropped yesterday I think it's alright to discuss it ffs
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