Hip Hop Discussion/Album Review Thread.

[G-Fresh]

Captain Hook did your mom.

[UncannyIowan]

I remember how pissed Esham and Twiztid were that he was always hanging around ICP, and then low and behold he gets signed to Psychopathic....Straight up, Vanilla Ice is one of the coolest famous people and makes no bones that what he did back in the day was a young kid getting millions thrown in his face. I wouldn't be surprised if this dude and Eminem did some shit in their 40's together.

[G-Fresh]

It was announced on the Facebook accounts of Psychopathic and Hatchet House that V-Ice signed a deal, but I don't know. Dude just put out a CD on another label a few months ago.

[Stringer Bell]

I thank the lord for everything I got
And giving me life again when a nigga got shot
I seen a lotta niggas give they life to that glass pot
Thank lord for the block
The blocks, the rocks, the weed, the licks
Shorty motherfuck the cops
So much pain in me, you gon find your body stinkin
Tryin to get a name off me, bang bang homie
I stay flamed homie, middle finger fuck you
They say I changed homie, drugs runnin all through my brain
They say my mind poison, so
Who wanna catch the venom?


FLOCKA!!!!!!!!

[Bert]

That was awful.

[Stringer Bell]

He's actually been one of the most entertaining rappers this year in my opinion. Certainly more so than someone like paint-by-numbers Weezy and his Carter 4 bomb.

The Lock Out mixtape with French Montana has been in crazy rotation these past two weeks.

I mean, how can you not love a rapper that says..

Wake up in the morning
Two bitches
Two Swishers
Wish I had two dicks!!!!!

[G-Fresh]

I got no beef with Waka. He doesn't go around saying he's the best or anything like Wayne and he's not blatantly satanic like Jay-Z.

[Stringer Bell]

Also, that Common album is great. Really love it. His best since Be.

[Fro]

I'm liking it too, but would argue that Finding Forever is better. That one was like Be Part 2 and nearly as good IMO.

[Ringo]

Yeah, pleased with the Common. Listened to it a lot over the Christmas period.

Right then. 2012.


god forgives, i don't

kendrick's debut

j. cole's sophomore

cole and kendrick project

act ii: patents of nobility (ehhhhhh)

new wu album

jay-z album

ye album

watch the throne 2 maybe

live from the underground

black star album

life is good

muscle car chronicles

Aesop Rock

El-P

Rob Sonic

killer mike record produced by El-P

G.O.O.D collab

Tyler, The Creator - Wolf

Frank Ocean

doom & ghost


So plenty of stuff coming this year.

Also so far Rae and T.I. have released mixtapes (my take: Rae is okay, T.I. is a bit shitty) AND Rozay's drops on Friday.

And check this out:

http://www.2dopeboyz.com/2012/01/02/schoolboy-q-blessed-f-kendrick-lamar-prod-dave-free/

Schoolboy Q's Habits & Contradictions: Jan 14th.

[Winkle van Tinkle]

The irony is ICP was never really MAINSTREAM.

But that was despite their best efforts to go mainstream. They tried, and failed many a time. J even apologised for it in a half hearted shitty way, which lost them many a fan. Bizarr/Bizzar, and that thing they done..fuck i cant remember the name of it, project leandra or something totally not like that, i cant remember the fucking name.

edit: this was it,
OG Juggalos Club - The mighty day of Lienda

Back when Bizzar Bizaar was released, ICP were selling their souls to get “Let’s Go All The Way” on MTV’s TRL. Sorry, it’s true. Hate it if you want, but they tried their damndest to sell out. While trying to convince the juggalos to go vote, many juggalos questioned that, if ICP blew up and got famous, how would they still treat their original down since day-1 fanbase that was around before the fame. The answer to that was the OG Juggalos Club, posted on ICP.com. Basically, you could sign up before the TRL shit and then whenever ICP got big and famous, they’d give out fresh benefits like free merch and backstage passes to the juggalos on the OG Juggalos list, that way they wouldn’t get lost in the shuffle of all the new fans.
So what happened to it? Well, when the whole thing was over, as a result of the sell-out attempt, ICP ended up losing probably half their fuckin’ fanbase. So there were no new juggalos and not a whole lot of OG ones left either. So I’d assume this shit got scrapped and to this day, the TRL-debacle probably stands as one of ICP’s biggest mistakes.




Anyway, i still listen to them now, but i'll be the first to admit that they arent what they were, the albums now arent a patch on the older stuff, and Twiztid, who I loved from HOK to their early years on Psy are pretty fucking rubbish now (and i say that regrettably, as Freekshow and mostastless are two of my favourite albums recorded on psy).

Like i say, their fans are loyal and you have to give them credit for this sub-culture they have created. They will make plenty of money because they have a set of fans that will buy whatever they release. I should know because of all the shit i have of theres (which i'm looking to sell DVDA, if you're interested).

[Fro]

A lot of those albums haven't even been announced or just definitely won't drop this year Ringer, but yeah I'm hyped for GOOD Music, Kendrick on Aftermath and Black Star. Was it you who said 2011 had a lot of good releases but very few if any real classics? If so, I agree, which is why I'm having a lot of trouble ranking them. But here goes.

Fro's top 10 albums of 2011:

1. Watch the Throne
2. Section.80
3. Undun
4. Take Care (yeah I said it)
5. Hell: The Sequel
6. Camp
7. The Dreamer/The Believer
8. The Greatest Story Never Told
9. Shaolin vs Wu-Tang
10. Cole World

[Bert]

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/singles/id.18323/title.bob-f-andre3000-play-the-guitar

This is fire.

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/singles/id.18027/title.busta-rhymes-f-twista-can-you-keep-up

This is great.

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/singles/id.18063/title.lupe-fiasco-american-terrorist-iii

This is pretty good too.

[Ringo]

I didn't make the list, collated it from a similar thread on another forum, but which do you think definitely won't drop? Much of that list has been earmarked for 2012 for some time.

And yeaaaaah, I said that.

Listen to the Schoolboy/Kendrick btw. Great fucking production, Kendrick is the man. Got it on repeat right now tbh

[Ringo]

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/singles/id.18323/title.bob-f-andre3000-play-the-guitar

This is fire.

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/singles/id.18027/title.busta-rhymes-f-twista-can-you-keep-up

This is great.

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/singles/id.18063/title.lupe-fiasco-american-terrorist-iii

This is pretty good too.

Really though Bert?

One is B.o.B and one is current Lupe. I don't want to stop listening to Blessed if it is their usual SHITE.

I'll give Busta and Twista a try though.

[G-Fresh]

But that was despite their best efforts to go mainstream. They tried, and failed many a time. J even apologised for it in a half hearted shitty way, which lost them many a fan. Bizarr/Bizzar, and that thing they done..fuck i cant remember the name of it, project leandra or something totally not like that, i cant remember the fucking name.

edit: this was it,
OG Juggalos Club - The mighty day of Lienda

Back when Bizzar Bizaar was released, ICP were selling their souls to get “Let’s Go All The Way” on MTV’s TRL. Sorry, it’s true. Hate it if you want, but they tried their damndest to sell out. While trying to convince the juggalos to go vote, many juggalos questioned that, if ICP blew up and got famous, how would they still treat their original down since day-1 fanbase that was around before the fame. The answer to that was the OG Juggalos Club, posted on ICP.com. Basically, you could sign up before the TRL shit and then whenever ICP got big and famous, they’d give out fresh benefits like free merch and backstage passes to the juggalos on the OG Juggalos list, that way they wouldn’t get lost in the shuffle of all the new fans.
So what happened to it? Well, when the whole thing was over, as a result of the sell-out attempt, ICP ended up losing probably half their fuckin’ fanbase. So there were no new juggalos and not a whole lot of OG ones left either. So I’d assume this shit got scrapped and to this day, the TRL-debacle probably stands as one of ICP’s biggest mistakes.




Anyway, i still listen to them now, but i'll be the first to admit that they arent what they were, the albums now arent a patch on the older stuff, and Twiztid, who I loved from HOK to their early years on Psy are pretty fucking rubbish now (and i say that regrettably, as Freekshow and mostastless are two of my favourite albums recorded on psy).

Like i say, their fans are loyal and you have to give them credit for this sub-culture they have created. They will make plenty of money because they have a set of fans that will buy whatever they release. I should know because of all the shit i have of theres (which i'm looking to sell DVDA, if you're interested).

What kind of stuff you lookin to unload, homie?

I don't look at it as them trying to sell out. It was more of a publicity stunt. A genius one at that. Juggalos rigging up programs to vote hundreds of times to get Lets Go All The Way to #1 on TRL was amazing. I had a great time participating and I loved seeing the people outside being taken over by "painted up freaks." MTV were bitches for having security remove them. J should have told the juggalos to shut down Time Square and to start a riot. They have caused multiple riots in Detroit and shut the city down once. You know you got power when you have Disney executives scared that your fans are gonna burn Disney World to the ground.

[Fro]

Yeah I figured you didn't make it, it's just funny how these lists pop up every year and how many of them don't materialize. This is probably the first one since 2004 that didn't have Detox on it. Anyway I'd say Kendrick/Cole and WTT2 have zero chance, and I wouldn't count on either of them ever coming out, unless maybe the former is just a mixtape. Also maybe I've missed some recent news on it but Jay E is fucking 35 years old and has never released an album yet, so I'm not betting on that one either.

And I like B.o.B. - he's like a good version of Cudi.

[Ringo]

Well yeah, the Jay E fiasco is like the new Detox. Getting pretty silly now but he's still signed to Roc Nation and we can keep on hoping.

There's some rumours, maybes, probables and dead certs on that list, but regardless I think there's plenty to look forward to in Hip-Hop in 2012.

Another to add is the MadGibbs full length, which I believe has been confirmed. :hyper:

[Miotch]

MadGibbs = Madlib and Freddie Gibbs?

That would be interesting.

[Ringo]

They already released an EP which is pretty fucking great...

http://hulkshare.com/a1ajgzfu381b

Freddie Gibbs & Madlib - Thuggin' - YouTube

Immense.

[Stringer Bell]

Jean Grae - U & Me & Everyone We Know (Produced by M-Phazes) - YouTube

Shit is dope as fuck. Sounds like some Dilla shit straight from the 90's.

[UncannyIowan]

But that was despite their best efforts to go mainstream. They tried, and failed many a time. J even apologised for it in a half hearted shitty way, which lost them many a fan. Bizarr/Bizzar, and that thing they done..fuck i cant remember the name of it, project leandra or something totally not like that, i cant remember the fucking name.

edit: this was it,
OG Juggalos Club - The mighty day of Lienda

Back when Bizzar Bizaar was released, ICP were selling their souls to get “Let’s Go All The Way” on MTV’s TRL. Sorry, it’s true. Hate it if you want, but they tried their damndest to sell out. While trying to convince the juggalos to go vote, many juggalos questioned that, if ICP blew up and got famous, how would they still treat their original down since day-1 fanbase that was around before the fame. The answer to that was the OG Juggalos Club, posted on ICP.com. Basically, you could sign up before the TRL shit and then whenever ICP got big and famous, they’d give out fresh benefits like free merch and backstage passes to the juggalos on the OG Juggalos list, that way they wouldn’t get lost in the shuffle of all the new fans.
So what happened to it? Well, when the whole thing was over, as a result of the sell-out attempt, ICP ended up losing probably half their fuckin’ fanbase. So there were no new juggalos and not a whole lot of OG ones left either. So I’d assume this shit got scrapped and to this day, the TRL-debacle probably stands as one of ICP’s biggest mistakes.




Anyway, i still listen to them now, but i'll be the first to admit that they arent what they were, the albums now arent a patch on the older stuff, and Twiztid, who I loved from HOK to their early years on Psy are pretty fucking rubbish now (and i say that regrettably, as Freekshow and mostastless are two of my favourite albums recorded on psy).

Like i say, their fans are loyal and you have to give them credit for this sub-culture they have created. They will make plenty of money because they have a set of fans that will buy whatever they release. I should know because of all the shit i have of theres (which i'm looking to sell DVDA, if you're interested).



Ha, it's funny you brought that up because they also did something called "Ray Day" which was the concept that on a particular day ICP wanted all the juggalos to go out and not only buy copies of Bizzar/Bizaar for themselves but to a fellow broke juggalo or possibly someone who's never heard of ICP. The downside was while it was a cool thing, ICP and co. lied about the actual album sales and when the real numbers came out a lot of fans were pissed that they were lied to.

Useless trivia but "Ray Day" was an idea conjured up by a friend of mine here in Des Moines named Ray Chapin who's brother Heavy Clown used to do internet ICP video games back in 1999-2001 for sites like Rydas.com and RealJuggalos.com. Ray and his brother were part of "Seeds of the Lotus" which were all the major fansites' members obligated to spread the word of the "dark carnival" via internet.


I'll be honest I've only been sour on a handful of Twiztid albums and usually it's just a handful of songs.



What kind of stuff you lookin to unload, homie?

I don't look at it as them trying to sell out. It was more of a publicity stunt. A genius one at that. Juggalos rigging up programs to vote hundreds of times to get Lets Go All The Way to #1 on TRL was amazing. I had a great time participating and I loved seeing the people outside being taken over by "painted up freaks." MTV were bitches for having security remove them. J should have told the juggalos to shut down Time Square and to start a riot. They have caused multiple riots in Detroit and shut the city down once. You know you got power when you have Disney executives scared that your fans are gonna burn Disney World to the ground.

It was a solid attempt on getting them more exposure and for a time it worked. Hell, I think I've seen more ICP merch in stores the last 10 years than I did in the 90's when it's pretty much universal that their music was better then than it became.

A big problem was the loss of Mike E. Clark. Violent J must've had a super hard on for Ministry, letting Mars and Mike Puwal come in and basically alter their existence. They lost the custom sound when Mike left and even Mike says that he had a serious issue with the direction they wanted to go. Keep in mind, we're talking about Violent J, the guy who grew up wanting to be the next Prince or Michael Jackson as opposed to a homicidal 6'4" 345lbs. killer clown. Go listen to the "intelligence and violence" tape, yikes!

What I never understood about ICP is why the change? I started taking a step back from really digging them when the first video for Amazing Jeckel Bros. was that stupid Love Song pt. 2 or whatever it was called. How did they go from the singles off Milenko to the singles they've used in all future albums? Reminds me of Esham's change in direction which was right around the same time and he's barely putting out anything worth a damn these days as well.

It's pretty obvious that Kid Rock's success was a driving factor in ICP's sound changing if you ask me. Hell I remember Monoxide from Twiztid saying that they heard some Limp Bizkit album and were like "Fuck that shit we can do that too!" So idk, was ICP trying to be mainstream or were they just changing their sound because they wanted to and it was just conicidental? I mean look @ their shit nowadays, they haven't really tried to get back to the older sound even with Mike Clark back in the mix. It's hit or miss really.

[Ringo]

jesus :lol:

[UncannyIowan]

jesus :lol:

yeah dude, after I posted that I realized that not only do I ramble in person when I'm high, but when I post about a topic I haven't spoken on in 10 years as well.

[Ringo]

please don't post about it again for another 10 years :yes:

[G-Fresh]

A big problem was the loss of Mike E. Clark.

I'm glad Mike E left. Shangri-La is my favorite album and Mike E would have totally ruined it. His Wraith remixes sucked.

[son_of_foley]

Quite enjoyed that Lupe track. Think he needs someone to shackle him a bit so he doesnt become a sprawling wanker. Lasers was horrendous. This is quite good and his track on travis barkers album was pretty awesome. There's still something there

[UncannyIowan]

I'm glad Mike E left. Shangri-La is my favorite album and Mike E would have totally ruined it. His Wraith remixes sucked.

See man, I think that album was probably the worst album ICP has ever done, which almost makes me think you're doing your usual DVDA routine lol. I honestly have only heard 2 ICP albums in full since that album because it put such a shitty taste in my mouth that was already brewing since Jeckel Bros. and that Another Love Song video. It's like for some reason after 2000, ICP and Esham decided to take their good ideas and flush them down the toilet because Eminem and Kid Rock blew up and they didn't.

After Clark left everything went downhill, even their flows suck ass now because Clark was helping them write half that shit that got them so popular in the first place. Now he's back, but the shit still has that corny wannabe acid rap approach that they can't pull off.

[G-Fresh]

Nah. I ain't trolling at all. I really enjoyed it. I liked the with us or against us stance they took after it came out too. I'm all about loyalty.

I loved Mike P's production and thought Zug was awesome.

[Ringo]

Rozay mixtape:

http://hulkshare.com/zrflg98loxbu

http://rapradar.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/rich-forever-cover-final-1.jpg?w=500&h=500&h=500

http://rapradar.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/rich-back-v2-4web.jpg?w=506&h=506

Only the Nas track really excites me from the tracklist but interested to hear what Drake has to say for himself!

[Fro]

I listened to the Drake song. His verse was aight- didn't mention Common by name but had a couple nice lines directed his way.

Now let's wait for The Bitch in Jew to drop

[QuietStorm]

Canibus - Harry Fox Hates Hip Hop - YouTube

If this is a glimpse into what RTJ Infinity will be all about, then my goodness this will be brilliant.

[QuietStorm]

My nigga said speak on it, throw a slow tempo beat on it
He said real Hip Hop gon' feed off it
Call in sick to the beef meat market
Come back with a peace offerin'
No man is an island, no man is sovereign
Any artist can turn a garden to a desert
But can they turn a desert to a garden?
These haters hatin' my bars, they playin' their part
The illest alive, it ain't my fault, where do I start?
My words always go unheard, my voice is ignored
No body will ever understand 10,000 bars,
I don't even understand it myself
Seven billion people on the planet,
Not one understands how I've felt
I feel like Sophia Stewart, the male oracle of rap music
I've been through unplorable abuses
Lemme explain something called mechanical royalty
A certain amount of albums get pressed up quarterly
For every unit that's pressed they owe me a dollar
Father Author, Poor Pauper they call me a ??Swasta??
On the corner drinkin' Goldschläger
It's not something that I'm proud of
The business is corrupt and dishonest
It's a law not a promise
Distributors supposed to pay each artist $1 per album per project
After mechanical royalty is confirmed,
Copyright infringement is the next lesson to learn
The writer is the copyright holder, in my case I'm the owner
Without a signature you're not supposed to sell my music
But they sold it, a quarter million dollar fine ?????
How many songs you wrote 'Bus?
I wrote 1,500 ASCAP don't lie about the numbers
But my account got shut down
I got no referral from the biggest collection agency in the world
Here we go boys and girls, they took everything from me
I wondered if it's cause I'm ugly, or unlucky
I said fuck you crooks, you stole my money
Keep it gully, they keep playin' courtroom rugby
I feel like God don't love me,
'Cause not one person on the planet stepped up to represent me
And now here I am talking to you
But not really though cause I know ?????
So now I'm sendin' a message as far as it can go
In the hope that it can maybe reach an uncorrupt soul
Somewhere over the rainbow, I go through pain they'll never know
That's why I'm so miserable, yo
Turn into the lyrical hulk, jump the gate, grab you by the throat
I should break your fuckin' neck 'cause I'm broke
But I ain't really on it like that
I'm so important to rap, one day I'll get a lawyer to do that
For now evil wins, overwhelming the people with sin
The modern day Djinn with medieval grins
The Jim Baker jungle gym, drink gin then jump into him
Then jump into them then jump back to Jim
I don't want no money, I just want justice
But now a days no one gives a fuck so fuck it
You gotta love it, big business big budget
Harry Fox hates Hip Hop, I'm goin' public
This is a cold ass world we live in.

[QuietStorm]

I know this is my third post in a row but can we talk about how underrated Xzibit is? One of the greatest rappers of all-time in my view.

[Bert]

I never really got big into Xzibit but he does have a few songs I really like.

I think and will always think that Ludacris is underrated.

Grew Up A Screw Up is still a jam.

[Ringo]

lol Xzibit

Luda is the man.

[QuietStorm]

You are really going to laugh at either the At the Speed of Life or 40 Dayz & 40 Nightz albums? The latter has damn near a perfect rating on rapreviews.com and I'd be hard-pressed to disagree with that assessment.

[Ringo]

rapreviews.com :lol:

[Fro]

I'm with you QS. Restless is a great album too, he got a ton of 2001-era Dre beats and that shit fucking bangs.

[QuietStorm]

rapreviews.com :lol:
Steve Juon is a very cool dude actually and runs a good site. Don't hate.

[Winkle van Tinkle]

See man, I think that album was probably the worst album ICP has ever done, which almost makes me think you're doing your usual DVDA routine lol. I honestly have only heard 2 ICP albums in full since that album because it put such a shitty taste in my mouth that was already brewing since Jeckel Bros. and that Another Love Song video. It's like for some reason after 2000, ICP and Esham decided to take their good ideas and flush them down the toilet because Eminem and Kid Rock blew up and they didn't.

After Clark left everything went downhill, even their flows suck ass now because Clark was helping them write half that shit that got them so popular in the first place. Now he's back, but the shit still has that corny wannabe acid rap approach that they can't pull off.

I actually really like Shangrila, although i remember the first time i heard it, i hated it.

Worst albums have to be Bizaar/Bizzar which were half hearted, and lazy, that tried to appeal to a wider audience and alienated their original fans.

It's weird, because they actually became better rappers, and the production become much better. But i do miss the raw, roughness of shit from CoC or Ringmaster.

Enjoying that Rozay mix, though like most RR stuff, i don't think i'll be listening to it in more than 3 weeks, bar 1 or 2 songs.

[G-Fresh]

I love me some Bizaar/Bizzar. They were filled with crazy shit. The main reason they were released they way they were was to get out of their contract with Island/Def Jam. Songs like Crystal Ball and Take Me Away are what ICP is all about.

[Stringer Bell]

OK damn. So I've been at work the past two days and didn't really get to listen to the Ross mixtape, just the first half or so. From what I heard it's dope, the usual ignorant mixtape Ross shit that you can't help but enjoy. But, just watched the Stay Schemin video...

Those Drake bars were HARD! He has this shitty look on his face in the video too, now I want to hear this battle more than ever.. it's time for someone to call out names..



BTW, for the record... Xzibit > Ludacris. Maybe not if you break them down as technical rappers, but when it comes to making albums, yeah, X takes it. His first two albums are CLASSICS, some people clearly have not heard them. Ludacris is a great emcee and his first two albums were also fun, but he's inconsistent as fuck and has a tendency to put out some real duds. Don't judge Xzibit for his TV show stuff, his music has always been raw.

[G-Fresh]

Luda has like 5 good songs.

[Stringer Bell]

Xzibit - What U See Is What U Get - YouTube

This video was so hard.. I remember I used to see it on BET all the time when I was young and hunted down the CD single.. I wasn't quite ready to drop the nearly $20 that albums used to cost, I probably needed some new Magic cards or something. But yeah, Xzibit was probably one of my first introductions to the lyrical-driven, underground (at the time) stuff... him, Common, Canibus, The Roots, the whole Rawkus glory days (Pharoahe Monch, Black Star, etc...)... great stuff

[G-Fresh]

Magic FTW

[QuietStorm]

Xzibit - Carry The Weight - YouTube

This album was in such heavy rotation.

[Winkle van Tinkle]

I love me some Bizaar/Bizzar. They were filled with crazy shit. The main reason they were released they way they were was to get out of their contract with Island/Def jam

And to win a bet with sharon osbourne.

6 or 7 decent songs out of 25.

[G-Fresh]

Fuck that stupid bitch.

[Simon]

lol Xzibit

Luda is the man.
:dunce:

Luda hits a great punchline and is probably at his best as a show-stealer in those big collabo remixes that tend to come out every once in a while...but his albums have always been hit and miss. That's not to say I don't like him, and he is certainly the good end of the pop-rap spectrum, but he doesn't touch Xzibit. He makes good club music but it's pretty shallow stuff beyond the punchlines. The only real classic track he's made IMO is "MVP", and even that is partly because of the Premo beat.

Xzibit actually had a similar problem since he got huge off the back of the Shady/Aftermath explosion, with poppier releases that didn't really suit his style, but as Stringer said his first two albums are real classics, with At The Speed Of Life possibly among my top ten of all time. On ATSOL alone there are a good six or seven tracks better than anything Luda ever released - Eyes May Shine, The Foundation, Carry The Weight, Paparazzi, Bird's Eye View, Enemies And Friends, At The Speed Of Life...40 Dayz is more of a solid album rather than one that has any real standout classics but it's still a great CD, will have to listen to it again when I get home as it's been a while.

I feel a bit bad cunting Luda because he is one of the most entertaining around, I just don't think he's made good albums...the number of quality collaborations he has dropped the best verse on is crazy though:

-I'm So Hood
-All I Do Is Win
-Made You Look (if anyone's seen the live version of this in NYC, Luda's verse just smashes the audience to bits, I'll see if I can find a video on Youtube as it's incredible)
-Welcome To My Hood
-Country Shit
-Cannon

All great tracks with top artists and IMO he went hardest on all of them. Made You Look in particular is three rappers on top of their games and Luda still stands above both Nas and Jada (even if Jada has the best line, "copped your shit, now I break weed up on it" :D)

That said - fuck Luda, Xzibit is a destroyer.

[Stringer Bell]

Uh oh. Common responded. Stay Schemin remix.

http://rapradar.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/common-stay-schemin-cover.jpg?w=540&h=329

http://rapradar.com/2012/01/09/new-music-common-stay-schemin-drake-diss/

You ain't wettin' nobody nigga, you Canada Dry

This will be good.

:lol: At the Destiny's Child sample at the end. "Say my name, say my name, when no one is around you" :lol:

[Stringer Bell]

Jay-Z and Beyonce's kid is already featured on a track. "Glory" produced by Pharrell

http://treesmoke.tumblr.com/post/15576449460/jay-z-featuring-blue-ivy-carter-glory-produced

[Bert]

So, Hopsin is having a Don't Funk Up Our Beats contest and submitted his own entry.
Hopsin - Hop SimonSin - YouTube


Damn. He killed that shit.

[Bert]

Don't Fu[N]k Up Our Beats Contest IV Entry - Jussa Kwess - YouTube


You rapping so Childish, no Gambino.

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

J-Flame - Dont Funk Up Our Beats Contest IV 2012 Entry (Live Rap and Video!) - YouTube

Don't Fu[¢]k Up Our Beats (Da Kid Gowie) - YouTube

#Losing - (Dont Fu[$]k Up Our Beats) - YouTube

[G-Fresh]

SevidemiC - HAUNTED (FV Contest Submission) - YouTube

NoEmotion--Funk Volume's "Don't Fu[$]k Up Our Beats" Rap Contest ..(HD)Music Video - YouTube

[Stringer Bell]

God damn some of those are bad

[Stringer Bell]

Starlito "FOR MY FOES" the Musical - YouTube

Dope as fuck

[Bert]

I guess dope doesn't mean what it used to mean.

[G-Fresh]

Ces Cru Signs to Strange Music - YouTube

[Chris Scott]

Lads bit of help please.

What the fuck is that song called and who is it where he's in the club singing "where gonna bounce bounce, gonna bounce bounce" the song has a bit of techno/dance in it towards the end I think.

I'm sure he's a rapper from London.

[Stringer Bell]

New Schoolboy Q. Only 2 hours old. Fresh from iTunes.

http://www.mediafire.com/?i9pc7dxgpui4a45

[Bert]

This just sounds so generic.

[Stringer Bell]

The Schoolboy Q album? Are you serious? Wasn't Carter 4 one of your favorite albums of last year?

[Fro]

Uh oh. Common responded. Stay Schemin remix.

http://rapradar.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/common-stay-schemin-cover.jpg?w=540&h=329

http://rapradar.com/2012/01/09/new-music-common-stay-schemin-drake-diss/

You ain't wettin' nobody nigga, you Canada Dry

This will be good.

:lol: At the Destiny's Child sample at the end. "Say my name, say my name, when no one is around you" :lol:

:yes::yes:

Hip Hop needs a beef like this IMO and I hope it continues. Especially with these two guys - it's a great representation of the old guard vs the new school. But much better than KRS vs Nelly or some of the previous similar ones.

[Matthew]

lol nelly

[Matthew]

hold on let me put this band-aid on

[QuietStorm]

Saw Nelly and the St. Lunatics play at a county fair back in 2000. Glad I'm not 17 anymore.

[QuietStorm]

This just sounds so generic.
Why are you being such a cunt to Stringer? His worth over the years to this thread goes far beyond yours. Everyone time I want to like you, you just give me another reason to not think much of you at all. Then I realize you are only 21.

[Bert]

It just sounds like generic swag rap. "His worth" :lol: Also, you're old.

[QuietStorm]

I was more referring to your post in Mitch's thread in the Asylum. Completely unnecessary and out of place. It's fine to be of the Lil Wayne and Drake era, but don't have a sense of entitlement. You act like you have no sense of history beyond your own.

[Morrison]

FUCKING SHUT UP BOTH OF YOU. each time you post towards one another in this thread i want to fucking vomit.

[QuietStorm]

Just coming to the defense of a comrade. Sorry for inducing vomit. :heart:

Juvenile- Set It Off - YouTube

Eh? lol.

[Bert]

I was more referring to your post in Mitch's thread in the Asylum. Completely unnecessary and out of place. It's fine to be of the Lil Wayne and Drake era, but don't have a sense of entitlement. You act like you have no sense of history beyond your own.

I don't even see how my posts saying Mitch shouldn't be mod (which he shouldn't one mod is more than enough for the tavern) in the thread about Mitch being made mod is relevant to hip hop discussion at all.

Schoolboy Q is generic swag rap. It has nothing to do with what "era" I'm from, I listen to Tech N9ne and Childish Gambino more than I listen to anyone else. I also have no idea what you're on about with a "sense of entitlement", I don't like swag rappers with no skill like lil b, wocka flocka, gucci mane, starlito, schoolboy q, etc.

[QuietStorm]

So what are you going to mod besides The Tavern? The Hip Hop thread? Just ban Stringer Bell.

We still need an active wrestling forum mod.
At least you are good at being a troll.

[Bert]

At least you are good at being a troll.

I said that because the hip hop thread is the only other place he posts besides the tavern which doesn't need modded. And the hip hop thread doesn't need modded either.

I think this went over your head.

[QuietStorm]

We should just get Miotch banned and make him purposeless.

[Bert]

He's already purposeless.

[QuietStorm]

He is my Facebook friend, so that is one purpose for him.

Astronautalis - Holy Water - YouTube

Some Tom Waits-influenced Andy-nautalis to keep this thread on form.

[Morrison]

Just coming to the defense of a comrade. Sorry for inducing vomit. :heart:

Juvenile- Set It Off - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbplL8kD4Pc)

Eh? lol.

string wasn't being attacked and he doesn't really need you jumping in for his battles, anyway.

[Stringer Bell]

No idea what you mean by "generic swag rap" cause that is hardly how I'd describe Schoolboy Q. He and the other Black Hippy guys (mainly Kendrick Lamar) are actually putting out some of the most refreshing and original music right now, compared to all the other blog/new era rappers.

Did you listen to the album? Seriously. The production is unique and doesn't sound like many other records. I wouldn't say he's the best lyricist or anything, but he can more than hold his own and the last thing I would call him is generic.

I can understand the hate on someone like Waka. But what's really so bad about this album?

[Ringo]

Bert has absolutely no idea what he's talking about when it comes to Hip-Hop. His opinions aren't even consistent. It's like he makes up things on the spot.

[Bert]

Jon Connor - Someone Like Me & No Thrillz (Live HD) Jan. 15th - YouTube

Jon Connor - Inside of You (Live HD) Jan. 15th - YouTube

Jon Connor - Place On Earth (Live HD) Jan. 15th - YouTube


His Season 2 mixtape is good you should download it, (http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/jon-connor-season-2-mixtape.35726.html) also Punk shirt. :panic:

[Stringer Bell]

http://www.thefader.com/2012/01/17/download-heems-nehru-jackets-mixtape/

http://cdn.thefader.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/nehru.jpg

Dopest shit out right now

Everyone's favorite rapper/actor makes an appearance..

Himanshu - Womyn 2 (ft. Childish Gambino) - YouTube

[Stringer Bell]

Also, I fucking love this song

Juicy J - Deez Bitches Rollin' ft. Space Ghost Purrp, Speakz [Official Video] - YouTube

Juicy J is another great artist when it comes to that ignorant, ridiculous rap. He has (and always has for that matter) some incredible production too. And Speak! is really good, you guys should check out his album if you haven't heard him (the white guy, duh).

[Stringer Bell]

So apparently Swizz Beatz is the CEO of Megaupload

:wtf:

[RuneEdge]

How the fuck did that happen?

[Simon]

Sad story for anyone that knows/cares.

I used to play football with a kid called Kevin Georgiou when I was about 10 or 11. Nice lad, a bit mouthy but his heart was in the right place. He was quite easily led though and hung around with a few dickheads.

Anyway, fast forward 15 years or so and I've just found out he is the semi-famous UK rapper K Koke, which is weird because I've been listening to him and quite enjoying his stuff for a good few years without ever seeing his face. But I happened upon a news story which contained a photo of him, and I instantly recognised as my old mate - a quick look on Google for his real name confirmed it was the same lad.

This was the article:

http://www.kilburntimes.co.uk/news/stonebridge_rapper_k_koke_charged_with_harlesden_s hooting_1_857558

So sad. Even sadder because he is a talented lad and had just signed a record deal with Roc Nation and would have been working with Jay-Z and other artists.

There's a strong movement suggesting that the police have fitted him up and they have no evidence to support their case, but the content of his lyrics is going to work strongly against him, it is all, and I mean almost literally ALL, about guns and violence. Which again is a shame because he is good at what he does - his rhymes are intelligently written even if the content is dubious, and he has a nice flow, with a DMX-esque delivery.

‪K KOKE Fire in the Booth Part 1 (1XTRA)‬‏ - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqgtYHlKhqA)

‪K Koke - Are You Alone Fam‬‏ - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRCTWBqoxls)

Genuinely a bit gutted, though maybe that's a bit sentimental as I remember him as a nice kid.


Update on this - in November last year Koke was acquitted of all charges and since his release he has been going the fuck in on his new tracks. His lyrics are harder, his delivery harsher, the beats are fucking insane (check the bass on I'm Back, it will mess your brain)...this could really be his year. As I mentioned before he's signed to Roc Nation and was supposedly on the verge of big things before the arrest, so with that behind him and probably adding credibility to his violent style, it could be a huge year for him. He SHOULD be borderline unsellable as a commercial artist but it seems not.

K Koke - Im Back (Hood Video) Welcome Back - YouTube

Power - K Koke (@KokeUSG) [Official Video] - YouTube
This track is supposedly evidence of Koke 'going pop'. If something as hard as this is him selling out, it shows how dirty his usual stuff is.

K KOKE Fire in the Booth Part 1 (1XTRA) - YouTube
Radio 1Xtra freestyle, try to ignore Charlie Sloth the DJ and his annoying soundboard, the freestyles are obviously written but his delivery is immense.

K Koke - All I am [USG A TEAM] LA LA LA (Watch in HD 720) - YouTube

Like I said before I'm seriously biased on this one cos I know him but he is KILLING it at the moment. Remember the name!

[MikeHunt]

don't think he is that great tbh, the tune you describe as going pop is by far the best.

[Winkle van Tinkle]

Got my ticket for Gambino bitches. :hyper:

[Simon]

Nice one mate hope you enjoy All The Shine and aren't too bored during the entire rest of the show when he performs all the songs that aren't any good.

[Fro]

All the Shine? That's your pick for the non-boring CG song? Odd choice.

[Simon]

Yeah it has an epic feel to it, very dramatic. Certainly the only track I've ever heard of his that I liked, and while I've not heard everything I have listened to and not enjoyed all of the links people have posted on here, which you would assume are people's favourites.

I think I just have a general dislike for modern hip-hop, or more specifically the production fashions of this era.. So many new albums that are universally acclaimed just leave me cold :dunno: I'm choosing my words carefully because it's very easy to come across like a Look Back Bore (c. Mark E. Smith) who is trying to look cool by ignoring new trends etc and goes on about the good old days all the time..it's honestly not that - I just genuinely find very little new hip-hop that I enjoy.

[RuneEdge]

I know it comes down to a matter of taste but the stuff you post isnt any better either, which is why your reply to Cuncha was a bit daft.

[Simon]

Yeah it was a joke. It was just a creative way of saying I don't like CG but that track is good. And yes you are correct that it is a matter of taste, I like the stuff I post which is why I post it, for others to enjoy - if you don't like it then fair fucks, but if I post 100 videos and just one person likes each video, then it was worth posting right?

[RuneEdge]

Fair enough. It looked to me like a genuine post that invited a discussion.

[Simon]

Na I've said before I just seem to have a blind spot for him - don't like his rapping, don't think Community is the greatest thing ever (it's grown on me a bit but it's just good), his comedy special was good though.

[MikeHunt]

Where is gambino playing?

[Stringer Bell]

Well, Bert was right about one thing at least. That Jon Connor mixtape is pretty enjoyable. I had it on my hard drive (and the Vinny Chase Season 1 tape as well) but never gave them a chance for some reason. Some of the samples are corny but I feel like that's one of the best parts. More rappers should sample goofy stuff, if they are able to make them into decent songs. Just please no more Just Blaze "No Love" beats...

Jon Connor - Inside Of You - YouTube



Samples Infant Sorrow from Forgetting Sarah Marshall :lol:

[MikeHunt]

right im not a fan in anyway but that rick ross mixtape is fucking great.

[Fro]

right im not a fan in anyway but that rick ross mixtape is fucking great.

Haven't listened to it in full but holy shit does Nas fucking kill his verse. He's on some '96 Nasty Nas shit there.

[RuneEdge]

So apparently Swizz Beatz is the CEO of Megaupload
...and the site shuts down. :lol:

[QuietStorm]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQoz6bjyTFI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQoz6bjyTFI&feature=player_embedded#)

Young Pasha ft. Canibus - Japanese Waters

[Bert]

Tech N9ne ft. B.o.B & Hopsin - Am I A Psycho (Official Video HD) 2012 - YouTube

[RuneEdge]

I expected something better. :\

[Bert]

http://i.imgur.com/Y1AhA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/b0dTB.jpg
http://www.livemixtapes.com/mixtapes/15801/chip_tha_ripper_tell_ya_friends.html

[UncannyIowan]

I expected something better. :\

Yeah too cliche for my horror taste but I'm assuming with BOB on the joint there's not going to be any Eli Roth-level shit going on, more Goosebumps-ish if you ask me lol.

[QuietStorm]

RIP THE JACKER UPDATE VIDEO www.rtjcollection.com - YouTube

NOTES: Canibus will be releasing 500 bars a days for 20 days straight starting Jan. 31. The full 10,000-bar album will be released on two DVDs.

Rapping by Born Sun and Canibus over some Godspeed! You Black Emperor begins at about 4:30.

[G-Fresh]

Born Sunn is a cool dude. He told me that a new Horsemen album was being planned like 2 years ago and we're still waiting.

[QuietStorm]

It still is. I believe Rza is an executive producer. I would expect it either in the second half of this year or early 2013.

[G-Fresh]

He also told me that a new Gravediggaz album was in the works with the lineup being RZA, Frukwan, Kinetic 9, Shabazz The Disciple, 9th Prince, Killah Priest, Prodigal Sunn, and Alim. I hope whatever has been recorded will leak some day.

[Stringer Bell]

That Chip Tha Ripper mixtape is really meh. I always find myself giving his mixtapes one listen through and then literally never coming back. Cleveland Show had a few decent tracks, though.

New Saigon mixtape is pretty decent. I'm still on that Heems too.

Also, loving the new Gangrene album.

[QuietStorm]

Crooked I Back Down Hip Hop Weekly - YouTube

Is this guy's album ever going to come out?

[Bert]

At this point it would only be a letdown compared to what he's put out already.

I have all of the Hip Hop Weeklies and the Hip Hop Weekly Reloadeds on my iPod. It's good shit.

[Simon]

I still find it odd when I hear Crooked I, because I remember hearing a couple of his tracks literally about ten years ago and quite liking them, but then he disappeared off the radar...then suddenly a year or so he was everywhere. I think Brennino might have introduced me to his stuff, he had one called Uh Oh that was mint.

[Winkle van Tinkle]

Gambino tomorrow for me :hyper:

I'm excited despite still not physically having the ticket :scared:

[BBF]

Tony possibility I might be going too. Fingers crossed.

[BBF]

Or tiny

[Winkle van Tinkle]

we'll have a drink if so.

i only managed to bag 1.

[BBF]

Definitely.

I'm the back up to someone if they can't go so fingers crossed their dog dies or something.

[Winkle van Tinkle]

Definitely.

I'm the back up to someone if they can't go so fingers crossed their dog dies or something.

Dog still breathing?

Picked up the ticket just now. But apparently he won't come on til about 10 FFS.

FIFA UNTIL 9:30 FOR ME THEN!!

[BBF]

Yeah unfortunately :(

Let me know how it was though mate. I'll be listening to him tonight anyway.

[Stringer Bell]

Don't miss Danny Brown. He's arguably better than Gambino. Definitely worth seeing.

[Winkle van Tinkle]

He's not the support, Josh Osho is :\

[Stringer Bell]

:no:

[QuietStorm]

Canibus - Your Irish Accent - promo snippet - YouTube

Heat rocks.

[Bert]

Saigon - HUNGRY (Official Video) - YouTube

HorseShoe G.A.N.G- Trust the Shoes - YouTube

Childish Gambino Debut In London C.A.M.P - YouTube

Joe Budden - No Church In The Wild Freestyle - YouTube

I'll say it again, Joey is so underrated. Oh, and the Slaughterhouse album Welcome to: OUR HOUSE is dropping May 15th.

[Simon]

I've been surprised by Joe Budden's more recent stuff as well, when he released Pump It Up and subsequent hype tracks I just thought he was a mediocre rapper releasing semi-decent but brainless club bangers but nothing of real substance...but Halfway House and particularly Padded Room were pretty good. I've been listening to Pray For Me for months - not a particularly original idea but it's very well done and has a depth to it that I didn't think he could deliver:

Joe Budden - Pray For Me - YouTube

[Winkle van Tinkle]

Show last night was excellent, josh osho was surprisingly good, and sway got up on stage and did a track with childish. All in all, superb.

Loving the new saigon mixtape too. He's just very good.

[Bert]

During Blu and Exile’s show the other night in San Francisco, an upset fan jumped on stage to express his disappointment in Blu’s performance. And based off the description of the YouTube clip, he wasn’t the only one who had these thoughts..

While I don’t agree with the fan jumping on stage, I think the dude was right with Blu putting on a weak show. He was wasted, forgetting his lines, mumbling, and literally leaning on the mic stand for balance in the corner the entire show. Such a shame when the dude is obviously so talented, getting that trashed where he can’t put on a decent show.


Blu getting called out. - YouTube

Oh and apparently that "fan" is rapper Dregs One from the Bay Area.

DREGS ONE | WAKE UP - YouTube

[QuietStorm]

Ras Kass announced Saturday that he is only longer a member of the HRSMN. Just add Chino XL and it'll all be good.

[G-Fresh]

Yeah that sucks. There are a bunch of people that can step up though. I'd love to see Chi King get the spot.

[QuietStorm]

M-Eighty breaks down the resurgence & demise of the HRSMN -Canibus, Priest, Razy, & Kurupt - YouTube

This is a great listen as for how the HRSMN situation broke down. Looks like the group is over. Oh well, they tried. Three out of four of them at least.

[G-Fresh]

Eighty loves to do interviews while he's driving.

[G-Fresh]

M-Eighty posted this on FB about a half hour ago.


I will make sure the fans have a new official HRSMN project before the end of 2012. "Fuck What Cha Heard!"

[Bert]

http://i.imgur.com/bwHCt.jpg
http://hulkshare.com/81uj86yzrcxq

[Brady]

Anyone looking forward to the new Slaughterhouse album coming out?

[QuietStorm]

That Schoolboy Q album really is quite good, isn't it?

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah, it really is. Love the production especially.

I had typed up a big post of songs I'd been listening to lately last night, then I ended up clicking back on my browser and lost it all. I'll try one more time.

"Sunday Son" Small Black feat. Heems - YouTube

Not exactly rap but definitely worth a listen. Great "Life's A Bitch" flip, nice guest spot by Heems from Das Racist. Just a really chill song. Small Black is an excellent band.

Video: Freddie Gibbs & Madlib - Thuggin - YouTube

Awesome song, awesome EP, awesome video. These two make a great combo. I would love a full LP from them in 2012, or at least more straight hip-hop from Madlib, as cool as his 2011 run was.

Lee Bannon - The Count Down - YouTube

Really smooth instrumental shit from a young west coast producer. I recommend checking out the entire project, Gnarlon Bando's Midnight Noir. It's inspired by the music from the film Drive and it's some of the best production I've heard in awhile.

Asher Roth - Choices (ft. Action Bronson) (Pabst & Jazz) (prod. Blended Babies) HQ & DL - YouTube

Surprisingly dope track from Asher Roth, and it never hurts to have Action Bronson around. Asher really killed himself with the College single, the guy is talented and has an ear for beats. More stuff like this please.

Smoke DZA - 4 Loko Remix ft. A Rocky, A Twelvy, Danny Brown, Freeway, and Killa Kyleon - YouTube

Big ol fuck-off posse cut. Love it, especially the random Freeway appearance. Danny Brown kills.

French Montana & Waka Flocka Dat All - YouTube

I don't care what anybody says, this is catchy as fuck and Waka Flocka is way more entertaining to me than someone like T.I. (who I find incredibly boring these days)... Don't sleep on this mixtape, especially for party/car music.

8Ball & MJG ft. Big K.R.I.T. - We Buy Gold (New Music February 2012) - YouTube

Sounds like vintage 8ball and MJG. Great stuff.

Action Bronson - Contemporary Man (Prod By Party Supplies) (Blue Chips) - YouTube

This one's great, Bronson does a Jackin 4 Beats over old 80s/rock songs. "The tool I got will loosen up your stool a lot, yeah the PP will make you poo-poo a lot" :lol:

Brand New Video School Boy Q feat A Rocky-Hands On The Wheel - YouTube

Speaking of Schoolboy Q, this one's dope. Liking the Kid Cudi sample, it's actually pretty unexpected and it works. Rocky's buzz is tremendous right now, almost scary like.





That'll do.

[Red Dog]

I've been listening to a bit of hip hop recently. Old stuff like Gang Starr and Jurassic 5. I also really like 2001 by Dr Dre - no idea if that is cool in hip hop circles or not.

So I am completely out the loop but based on all that someone suggest some songs for a playlist, cheers!

[Simon]

Nas
Represent, One Mic, Small World, NY State Of Mind, Made You Look (Remix), Rule, Bridging The Gap, It Ain't Hard To Tell

I'm off to lunch but listen to all of those immediately. All unbelievable.

[Winkle van Tinkle]

was actually listening to 2001 last night for the first time in years. forgot how good Big Egos is. Great album.

Thats all dre has to do for detox, instead hes toyed with his sound and hes made shit.

[Red Dog]

I have added them to my playlist, cheers.

[Simon]

2001 is pretty much top to bottom unbelievable. I played the arse out of Forgot About Dre and What's The Difference to the extent that even now I find myself immediately bored of them if they come on randomly on my iTunes.

Still Dre is IMO one of the greatest commercial hip-hop tracks of all time (the way the first note comes in straight after the end of Fuck You is a real goosebumps moment), but beyond the obvious there are so many beats that are just pure filth - The Watcher, Xxxplosive, Big Egos, Murder Ink, Bang Bang, The Message...it's all fire. I never liked The Next Episode and the skits are even worse than the usual during that era but the consistent quality of the beats makes the whole album unbelievable.

[Simon]

When I get home I'm gonna C+P all my 4/5* hip-hop from iTunes to save time Red Dog, must be a few hundred great tracks that I would consider must-haves.

[Red Dog]

Nice one, cheers.

Just whacked on a bit of Warren G. I used to like him a lot must be years since I listened to this.

[Simon]

Did Warren G do anything good other than Regulate? The only song of his I ever liked other than that was some cheesy shitfest called This Is The Shack :D

Diet Snoop.

[Red Dog]

Warren G - Smokin' Me Out ft. Ron Isley - YouTube

[Stringer Bell]

Y'all gonna act like I didn't just post a bunch of new dope shit? :p

Warren G's second album is actually quite good.

[Winkle van Tinkle]

Nobody Does It Better with Nate?

Some of the stuff on the pretty awful 213 album was decent.

I'm a big big Nate Dogg fan and the other day i come across some old shit that was bloody 2 step! Nate was garage before garage was about!

[Fro]

I really can't get on board with Waka, String. Pretty intolerable. Now Wiz Khalifa on the other hand, I fucks with. I've been going through some of his older shit and he has that chill west coast sound down pat (despite being from PA).

I'm Gonna Ride - Wiz Khalifa - YouTube

[G-Fresh]

@Kreayshawn: @icp DM me!! I followed!
@icp: @Kreayshawn how can we be down? What up

Yikes

[Bert]

Guess they're trying to figure out how they can make their music worse.

[Stringer Bell]

You gay niggas up in the pubs, be watchin soccer games
We drunk as fuck nigga
We bumpin Waka Flame

[Bert]

Shit.

[Stringer Bell]

Danny Brown - Bruiser Brigade ft. Dopehead (Prod. by Skywlkr) - YouTube

Hardly. But enjoy your Dwayne records.

[Stringer Bell]

Guys. Post your top 5 albums ever. Just been thinking lately about how Life After Death is my favorite... thought it would be fun to come up with the others..

BIG - Life After Death
Raekwon - Cuban Linx
Nas - Illmatic
Outkast - ATLiens (or Aquemini -- could change on any given day)
Kanye West - Dark Fantasy

I think that's what I'm going with for now.

These would round out the top 10

Cage - Hell's Winter
Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
Wu Tang - 36 Chambers
Ghostface - Supreme Clientele
Clipse - Lord Willin

[Bert]

There were a few songs on that album that I liked but mostly I don't understand the hype behind the guy.

I guess I just enjoy lyricism more than repetition.

[Stringer Bell]

You crazy jo. Danny Brown is a lyricist through and through. I dunno what you were listening to.

That specific song may not be "technically" lyrical, but that's because it's him experimenting with styles. It's his take on a UK grime track and I think it's pretty fucking decent. I guess we should wait for some UK heads to chime in.

But really. Now you've criticized both Schoolboy Q and Danny Brown as rappers. Which is fucking ridiculous because both of those guys are two of the best up and comers out right now. Seriously, you liked Carter 4 lyrically but don't like these guys? I don't get it at all. Maybe it's better that way.

And can I just put some more emphasis on how great the Schoolboy Q record is. My favorite album of 2012 so far. Close 2nd is the Gangrene album Vodka and Ayahuasca -- do not sleep!!!

[Fro]

Guys. Post your top 5 albums ever. Just been thinking lately about how Life After Death is my favorite... thought it would be fun to come up with the others..

BIG - Life After Death
Raekwon - Cuban Linx
Nas - Illmatic
Outkast - ATLiens (or Aquemini -- could change on any given day)
Kanye West - Dark Fantasy

I think that's what I'm going with for now.

These would round out the top 10

Cage - Hell's Winter
Jay-Z - Reasonable Doubt
Wu Tang - 36 Chambers
Ghostface - Supreme Clientele
Clipse - Lord Willin

I like that you prefer Lord Willin to HHNF. HHNF, while good, was overhyped. And ATLiens is the correct pick.

My top 4:

2001
The Marshall Mathers LP
Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
The Blueprint

[Bert]

I like a few of the songs off of Habits & Contradiction.

I like Sacrilegious, it reminds me a lot of Kid Cudi.

I also like Hands on The Wheel, the sample is nice and works well.

I don't understand why he echoes himself or makes little one word comments after a line on like every other song though. I'm sure other rappers do it, it's just way more noticeable for me on his songs.

When it comes to Danny Brown I don't understand why he has weird accents on some songs and sounds completely normal on others. The weird accent thing reminds me of how Gambino used to sound a lot.

[Stringer Bell]

I like that you prefer Lord Willin to HHNF. HHNF, while good, was overhyped. And ATLiens is the correct pick.

My top 4:

2001
The Marshall Mathers LP
Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
The Blueprint

:yes: With Clipse, some days I even prefer Til The Cakset Drops, but there's just something about Lord Willin. I remember when I heard Grindin in high school I liked it but just felt it was really commercial, and their whole look in the video and everything. Little did I know I'd be coming back to that album 10 years later and having it blow my mind. It's so deep. Malice especially spits some really crazy shit. I love the Clipse.

2001 is definitely up there for me, too. Sounds just as good today as it did then.


I like a few of the songs off of Habits & Contradiction.

I like Sacrilegious, it reminds me a lot of Kid Cudi.

I also like Hands on The Wheel, the sample is nice and works well.

I don't understand why he echoes himself or makes little one word comments after a line on like every other song though. I'm sure other rappers do it, it's just way more noticeable for me on his songs.

When it comes to Danny Brown I don't understand why he has weird accents on some songs and sounds completely normal on others. The weird accent thing reminds me of how Gambino used to sound a lot.


I really recommend you go back and give Habits & Contradictions a thorough listen. I know what you mean about his ad-libs, they do get a little annoying.. I'm not saying he's the perfect rapper. But I really did sleep on what he was spitting, only because the production is so damn good. The first half of so of the album is damn near flawless IMO.

When you say accent, I assume you mean the high-pitched voice? I guess it is an acquired taste, but that's just his style, he likes to switch it up. I think it's unique. And still, even if you don't like his voice, that doesn't have anything to do with his lyrics. Dude's outrageously good....

It's the Adderall Admiral, writing holy macarel
Your bitch say my dick long like the strap on a satchel
I took me a capsule with no hassle
Now it's like I dip feathers of ink in a castle
A prodigy like bullets hit your left clavicle
No sweatsuits and paint the avenue
You have no Clue like toy stores without board games
But when I paint pictures I'm dipping brushes in war paint
I'm a mothafuckin' mothafucka
Fucking on your mother with two rubbers, I do fuck her
No cover ,just her booty on a pillow
Your bitch said my dick tastes like tropical fruit Skittles
I'm bumping Bill Withers, Swishers on Schwarzenegger
Matter fact, nah nigga they on Boa Constrictors, they'll choke a nigga
These niggas ain't rappers, they motherfuckin' characters
Caught your baby momma horny then I stuck a carrot in her
Then you made a salad with her, ate that shit for dinner
I don't want that skinny bitch look like that ho from Thinner
Swore she played soccer she was real good with headers
Had me yelling "Goal!" while I was sitting on the dresser
Give the bitch a hat trick, smoking on the cat piss
I keep the bitch wet, around you she's a cactus
I got them Penis Psalms for your Vagina Monologues
Love a feminist bitch, oh, they get my dick hard
So no apologies for all the misogyny
I just want your company to come and watch some porn with me
My oral orchestration causes manipulation
The way these hoes be chasing though I had the tongue of Satan
But I just gave 'em dick they more for conversation
Why you niggas tricking giving your obligation
You safe havens, I'm Wes Craven with X cravings
Fuck a bitch mouth until her fucking face cave in
Hidden cams in her house, I caught her masturbating
Extorted her for the cash, now your ass paying
You Captin Save-Them-Ass, nigga
I don't give a bitch shit but hard dick and liquor
So so nice to meet you, I hope that you're safe

Lyrics are from Rap Genius so there may be a few mistakes. It's "Outer Space" if you were curious.

[QuietStorm]

Top 5:

Train of Thought
Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
Mic Club: The Curriculum
Disposable Arts
Hell's Winter

Rest of the top 10:

A Healthy Distrust
Rip the Jacker
Poison Pen
Illmatic
Death Is Certain (but fuck Royce lol)

[Ringo]

Illmatic, Cuban Linx, 36 Chambers. Probably a clear top 3. The 4th and 5th could be any number of albums... Supreme Clientele, 93 till Infinity, Liquid Swords... jesus there's so many options.

[G-Fresh]

Tech N9ne mad at fans for not supporting Kutt Calhoun - YouTube

[Bert]

Trae Tha Truth - I'm On 2.0 (Ft. Big K.R.I.T., Jadakiss, J.Cole, Kendrick Lamar, B.o.B. & More) - YouTube

Tech N9ne ft. Wrekonize - Blur (Explicit Version) - YouTube

[QuietStorm]

Virtuoso & Snowgoons "Statue" [Music Video] (produced by Sicknature of Snowgoons) - YouTube

[Red Dog]

When I get home I'm gonna C+P all my 4/5* hip-hop from iTunes to save time Red Dog, must be a few hundred great tracks that I would consider must-haves.
.......

I like all this top 4 business going on, this is good stuff lads.

[Simon]

Sorry RD I forgot about that. I'll try to remember tonight.

Top 5 albums...

Illmatic
Slim Shady LP
Capital Punishment
College Dropout
Reasonable Doubt

Tough call on the last two - could just as easily have gone for At The Speed Of Life, The Marshall Mathers LP, The Infamous, Ready To Die, 36 Chambers...fuck, too many to mention.

[Simon]

OK Red Dog here are the 228 songs I have listed as 4/5 stars on my iTunes. Bear in mind these are just my absolute favourites, I still love all the 3 star stuff as well if you want it.


1. 2pac - All About You (4:36)
2. 2pac - Baby Don't Cry (4:24)
3. 2pac - Brenda's Got A Baby (3:54)
4. 2pac - California Love (4:00)
5. 2pac - Changes (4:29)
6. 2pac - Dear Mama (4:39)
7. 2pac - Do For Love (4:42)
8. 2pac - Hail Mary (5:09)
9. 2pac - I Ain't Mad At Cha (4:53)
10. 2pac - I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto (4:21)
11. 2pac - Keep Ya Head Up (4:22)
12. 2pac - Letter To My Unborn Child (3:56)
13. 2pac - Made Niggaz (5:05)
14. 2pac - Me Against The World (4:41)
15. 2pac - Runnin' (3:51)
16. 2pac - Temptations (5:00)
17. 2pac - Thugz Mansion (4:06)
18. 2pac - To Live And Die In L.A. (4:33)
19. 2pac - Trapped (4:44)
20. 2pac - Until The End Of Time (4:26)
21. 50 Cent - Many Men (4:16)
22. Aesop Rock - Daylight (4:25)
23. Arrested Development - Mr. Wendel (4:07)
24. Asher Roth - His Dream (4:35)
25. Asher Roth - I Love College (4:01)
26. Asher Roth - Lark On My Go-Kart (2:54)
27. Asher Roth - Sour Patch Kids (4:29)
28. Bashy - 4 O'Clock (4:01)
29. Bashy - Black Boys (4:01)
30. Bashy - Black Boys (Remix) (4:49)
31. Bashy - Day Before I Die (4:27)
32. Bashy - My Nightmare (5:06)
33. Bashy - Never Be Your Woman (Remix) (2:56)
34. Bashy - Ransom
35. Beanie Sigel - Feel It In The Air
36. Big Pun - I'm Not A Player
37. Big Pun - It's So Hard
38. Big Pun - Punish Me
39. Big Pun - You Ain't A Killer
40. Blak Twang - Ain't Done 2 Bad
41. Blak Twang - Fearless
42. Bubba Sparxxx - Comin' Round
43. Bubba Sparxxx - Deliverance
44. Bubba Sparxxx - She Tried
45. Bumpy Knuckles - B.A.P.
46. Chase & Status - Against All Odds
47. Common - Be
48. Common - Forever Begins
49. Common - I Used To Love H.E.R.
50. Common - Resurrection
51. Common - Retrospect For Life
52. Common - So Far To Go
53. Common - The Light
54. Common - The People
55. Common - The Sixth Sense
56. Craig Mack - Flava In Ya Ear (Remix)
57. Cuban Link - Hey Mama
58. D12 - Devils Night
59. D12 - Instigator
60. D12 - My Band
61. Dan Le Sac - Letter From God to Man
62. Dan Le Sac - Thou Shalt Always Kill
63. Devlin - Days And Nights
64. Devlin - London City
65. Dizzee Rascal - Paranoid
66. DJ Khaled - All I Do Is Win
67. DJ Khaled - All I Do Is Win (Remix)
68. DJ Khaled - Go Hard
69. DJ Khaled - Go Hard (Remix)
70. DJ Khaled - I'm On One
71. DJ Khaled - I'm So Hood (Remix)
72. DMX - Slippin'
73. Dr. Dre - Forgot About Dre
74. Dr. Dre - Still D.R.E.
75. Dr. Dre - The Message
76. Drake - Forever
77. Dubbledge - Lips To Da Floor
78. Ed Sheeran - Little Lady
79. Eminem - Almost Famous
80. Eminem - Amityville
81. Eminem - As The World Turns
82. Eminem - Bad Meets Evil
83. Eminem - I Remember
84. Eminem - If I Had
85. Eminem - Infinite
86. Eminem - Just Don't Give A Fuck
87. Eminem - Like Toy Soldiers
88. Eminem - Mockingbird
89. Eminem - Rock Bottom
90. Eminem - Scary Movie
91. Eminem - Spend Some Time
92. Eminem - Still Don't Give A Fuck
93. Eminem - The Way I Am
94. Eminem - 'Til I Collapse
95. Eminem - When I'm Gone
96. Eminem - White America
97. English Frank - SB Warm Up Sessions
98. Eve - Love Is Blind
99. Example - One Night
100. Example - So Many Roads
101. Fabolous - Breathe
102. Fat Joe - Bronx Keeps Creating It
103. Fredro Starr - Shining Through
104. Gang Starr - Battle
105. Gang Starr - Moment Of Truth
106. Gang Starr - Right Where You Stand
107. Ghostface Killah - All That I Got Is You
108. G-Unit - So Seductive
109. Immortal Technique - Dance With The Devil
110. Immortal Technique - Harlem Streets
111. Immortal Technique - Industrial Revolution
112. Immortal Technique - The Cause Of Death
113. Immortal Technique - The Rebel
114. Jadakiss - The Champ Is Here
115. Jadakiss - Why
116. Jadakiss - Why (Remix)
117. Jay-Z - Can't Knock The Hustle
118. Jay-Z - Dead Presidents II
119. Jay-Z - D'Evils
120. Jay-Z - Dope Man
121. Jay-Z - Feelin' It
122. Jay-Z & Kanye West - That's My Bitch
123. Jehst - 1979
124. Jehst - Liquor Soaked Sentiments
125. Jin - I Got A Love
126. K Koke - All I Am
127. K Koke - Fire In The Booth
128. K Koke - I'm Back
129. K Koke - Power
130. Kano - Nite Nite
131. Kano - Sleep Tight
132. Kano - Sometimes
133. Kano - This Is My Life
134. Kanye West - All Of The Lights
135. Kanye West - Family Business
136. Kanye West - Never Let Me Down
137. Kanye West - School Spirit
138. Lil Wayne - Drop The World
139. Lil Wayne - Pussy Money Weed
140. Lowkey - Long Live Palestine
141. Lowkey - Voices Of The Voiceless
142. Ludacris - Growing Pains
143. Ludacris - MVP
144. Lupe Fiasco - Kick Push
145. Lupe Fiasco - The Show Goes On
146. Mic Righteous - Fire In The Booth
147. Mobb Deep - Give Up The Goods
148. Mobb Deep - Shook Ones Pt. II
149. Mobb Deep - Survival Of The Fittest
150. Mobb Deep - The Start Of Your Ending
151. Mr. J. Medeiros - Constance
152. N.E.R.D. - She Wants To Move (Remix)
153. Nas - Book Of Rhymes
154. Nas - Bridging The Gap
155. Nas - Dance
156. Nas - Get Down
157. Nas - Halftime
158. Nas - Hate Me Now
159. Nas - Heaven
160. Nas - Hero
161. Nas - Hip Hop Is Dead
162. Nas - I Gave You Power
163. Nas - It Ain't Hard To Tell
164. Nas - K-I-S-S-I-N-G
165. Nas - Life's A Bitch
166. Nas - Made You Look (Remix)
167. Nas - Memory Lane
168. Nas - N.Y. State Of Mind
169. Nas - Nas Is Like
170. Nas - One Mic
171. Nas - Represent
172. Nas - Rule
173. Nas - Small World
174. Nas - Surviving The Times
175. Nas - The World Is Yours
176. Nas - Thugz Mansion N.Y.
177. Naughty By Nature - Feel Me Flow
178. Nicki Minaj - Roman's Revenge
179. Notorious B.I.G. - Everyday Struggles
180. Notorious B.I.G. - Gimme The Loot
181. Notorious B.I.G. - Juicy
182. Notorious B.I.G. - Mo' Money, Mo' Problems
183. Notorious B.I.G. - Notorious Thugs
184. Notorious B.I.G. - Who Shot Ya
185. Outkast - Ms. Jackson
186. Outkast - Rosa Parks
187. Oxide & Neutrino - Check Dis
188. Pete Rock & CL Smooth - They Reminisce Over You
189. Pharoahe Monch - Queens
190. Plan B - Cast A Light
191. Plan B - I Need Love
192. Plan B - No More Eatin'
193. Plan B - Suzanne
194. Puff Daddy - Bad Boy For Life
195. Rakim - Documentary Of A Gangsta
196. Redman - Smash Sumthin'
197. Redman - Tonight's Da Night
198. Royce Da 5'9 - Legendary
199. Sage Francis - The Best Of Times
200. Skinnyman - Council Estate Of Mind
201. Skinnyman - I'll Be Surprised
202. Skinnyman - Who Me
203. Slaughterhouse - Microphone
204. Slum Village - Fall In Love
205. Styles P - The Life
206. T.I. - Swagger Like Us (Remix)
207. The Beatnuts - Off The Books
208. The Fugees - Fu-gee-la
209. The Fugees - Manifest
210. The Fugees - The Score
211. The Fugees - Zealots
212. The Mitchell Brothers - Alone With The TV
213. The Mitchell Brothers - She's Got It All Wrong
214. The Pharcyde - Runnin'
215. The Roots - The Seed v2.0
216. Tinchy Stryder - Game Over
217. Tyler The Creator - Yonkers
218. Warren G - Regulate
219. Wu-Tang Clan - C.R.E.A.M.
220. Wu-Tang Clan - Gravel Pit
221. Wu-Tang Clan - Protect Ya Neck II (The Jump Off)
222. Wu-Tang Clan - Shame On A Nigga
223. Xzibit - At The Speed Of Life
224. Xzibit - Eyes May Shine
225. Xzibit - Eyes May Shine (Remix)
226. Xzibit - Paparazzi
227. Xzibit - The Foundation
228. Xzibit - What A Mess

Anyone else who reads it, what obvious stuff am I missing? I still reckon I probably have loads of gaps in my catalogue even though I've been obsessive for years :D

[Simon]

OK Red Dog here are the 228 songs I have listed as 4/5 stars on my iTunes. Bear in mind these are just my absolute favourites, I still love all the 3 star stuff as well if you want it.


1. 2pac - All About You (4:36)
2. 2pac - Baby Don't Cry (4:24)
3. 2pac - Brenda's Got A Baby (3:54)
4. 2pac - California Love (4:00)
5. 2pac - Changes (4:29)
6. 2pac - Dear Mama (4:39)
7. 2pac - Do For Love (4:42)
8. 2pac - Hail Mary (5:09)
9. 2pac - I Ain't Mad At Cha (4:53)
10. 2pac - I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto (4:21)
11. 2pac - Keep Ya Head Up (4:22)
12. 2pac - Letter To My Unborn Child (3:56)
13. 2pac - Made Niggaz (5:05)
14. 2pac - Me Against The World (4:41)
15. 2pac - Runnin' (3:51)
16. 2pac - Temptations (5:00)
17. 2pac - Thugz Mansion (4:06)
18. 2pac - To Live And Die In L.A. (4:33)
19. 2pac - Trapped (4:44)
20. 2pac - Until The End Of Time (4:26)
21. 50 Cent - Many Men (4:16)
22. Aesop Rock - Daylight (4:25)
23. Arrested Development - Mr. Wendel (4:07)
24. Asher Roth - His Dream (4:35)
25. Asher Roth - I Love College (4:01)
26. Asher Roth - Lark On My Go-Kart (2:54)
27. Asher Roth - Sour Patch Kids (4:29)
28. Bashy - 4 O'Clock (4:01)
29. Bashy - Black Boys (4:01)
30. Bashy - Black Boys (Remix) (4:49)
31. Bashy - Day Before I Die (4:27)
32. Bashy - My Nightmare (5:06)
33. Bashy - Never Be Your Woman (Remix) (2:56)
34. Bashy - Ransom
35. Beanie Sigel - Feel It In The Air
36. Big Pun - I'm Not A Player
37. Big Pun - It's So Hard
38. Big Pun - Punish Me
39. Big Pun - You Ain't A Killer
40. Blak Twang - Ain't Done 2 Bad
41. Blak Twang - Fearless
42. Bubba Sparxxx - Comin' Round
43. Bubba Sparxxx - Deliverance
44. Bubba Sparxxx - She Tried
45. Bumpy Knuckles - B.A.P.
46. Chase & Status - Against All Odds
47. Common - Be
48. Common - Forever Begins
49. Common - I Used To Love H.E.R.
50. Common - Resurrection
51. Common - Retrospect For Life
52. Common - So Far To Go
53. Common - The Light
54. Common - The People
55. Common - The Sixth Sense
56. Craig Mack - Flava In Ya Ear (Remix)
57. Cuban Link - Hey Mama
58. D12 - Devils Night
59. D12 - Instigator
60. D12 - My Band
61. Dan Le Sac - Letter From God to Man
62. Dan Le Sac - Thou Shalt Always Kill
63. Devlin - Days And Nights
64. Devlin - London City
65. Dizzee Rascal - Paranoid
66. DJ Khaled - All I Do Is Win
67. DJ Khaled - All I Do Is Win (Remix)
68. DJ Khaled - Go Hard
69. DJ Khaled - Go Hard (Remix)
70. DJ Khaled - I'm On One
71. DJ Khaled - I'm So Hood (Remix)
72. DMX - Slippin'
73. Dr. Dre - Forgot About Dre
74. Dr. Dre - Still D.R.E.
75. Dr. Dre - The Message
76. Drake - Forever
77. Dubbledge - Lips To Da Floor
78. Ed Sheeran - Little Lady
79. Eminem - Almost Famous
80. Eminem - Amityville
81. Eminem - As The World Turns
82. Eminem - Bad Meets Evil
83. Eminem - I Remember
84. Eminem - If I Had
85. Eminem - Infinite
86. Eminem - Just Don't Give A Fuck
87. Eminem - Like Toy Soldiers
88. Eminem - Mockingbird
89. Eminem - Rock Bottom
90. Eminem - Scary Movie
91. Eminem - Spend Some Time
92. Eminem - Still Don't Give A Fuck
93. Eminem - The Way I Am
94. Eminem - 'Til I Collapse
95. Eminem - When I'm Gone
96. Eminem - White America
97. English Frank - SB Warm Up Sessions
98. Eve - Love Is Blind
99. Example - One Night
100. Example - So Many Roads
101. Fabolous - Breathe
102. Fat Joe - Bronx Keeps Creating It
103. Fredro Starr - Shining Through
104. Gang Starr - Battle
105. Gang Starr - Moment Of Truth
106. Gang Starr - Right Where You Stand
107. Ghostface Killah - All That I Got Is You
108. G-Unit - So Seductive
109. Immortal Technique - Dance With The Devil
110. Immortal Technique - Harlem Streets
111. Immortal Technique - Industrial Revolution
112. Immortal Technique - The Cause Of Death
113. Immortal Technique - The Rebel
114. Jadakiss - The Champ Is Here
115. Jadakiss - Why
116. Jadakiss - Why (Remix)
117. Jay-Z - Can't Knock The Hustle
118. Jay-Z - Dead Presidents II
119. Jay-Z - D'Evils
120. Jay-Z - Dope Man
121. Jay-Z - Feelin' It
122. Jay-Z & Kanye West - That's My Bitch
123. Jehst - 1979
124. Jehst - Liquor Soaked Sentiments
125. Jin - I Got A Love
126. K Koke - All I Am
127. K Koke - Fire In The Booth
128. K Koke - I'm Back
129. K Koke - Power
130. Kano - Nite Nite
131. Kano - Sleep Tight
132. Kano - Sometimes
133. Kano - This Is My Life
134. Kanye West - All Of The Lights
135. Kanye West - Family Business
136. Kanye West - Never Let Me Down
137. Kanye West - School Spirit
138. Lil Wayne - Drop The World
139. Lil Wayne - Pussy Money Weed
140. Lowkey - Long Live Palestine
141. Lowkey - Voices Of The Voiceless
142. Ludacris - Growing Pains
143. Ludacris - MVP
144. Lupe Fiasco - Kick Push
145. Lupe Fiasco - The Show Goes On
146. Mic Righteous - Fire In The Booth
147. Mobb Deep - Give Up The Goods
148. Mobb Deep - Shook Ones Pt. II
149. Mobb Deep - Survival Of The Fittest
150. Mobb Deep - The Start Of Your Ending
151. Mr. J. Medeiros - Constance
152. N.E.R.D. - She Wants To Move (Remix)
153. Nas - Book Of Rhymes
154. Nas - Bridging The Gap
155. Nas - Dance
156. Nas - Get Down
157. Nas - Halftime
158. Nas - Hate Me Now
159. Nas - Heaven
160. Nas - Hero
161. Nas - Hip Hop Is Dead
162. Nas - I Gave You Power
163. Nas - It Ain't Hard To Tell
164. Nas - K-I-S-S-I-N-G
165. Nas - Life's A Bitch
166. Nas - Made You Look (Remix)
167. Nas - Memory Lane
168. Nas - N.Y. State Of Mind
169. Nas - Nas Is Like
170. Nas - One Mic
171. Nas - Represent
172. Nas - Rule
173. Nas - Small World
174. Nas - Surviving The Times
175. Nas - The World Is Yours
176. Nas - Thugz Mansion N.Y.
177. Naughty By Nature - Feel Me Flow
178. Nicki Minaj - Roman's Revenge
179. Notorious B.I.G. - Everyday Struggles
180. Notorious B.I.G. - Gimme The Loot
181. Notorious B.I.G. - Juicy
182. Notorious B.I.G. - Mo' Money, Mo' Problems
183. Notorious B.I.G. - Notorious Thugs
184. Notorious B.I.G. - Who Shot Ya
185. Outkast - Ms. Jackson
186. Outkast - Rosa Parks
187. Oxide & Neutrino - Check Dis
188. Pete Rock & CL Smooth - They Reminisce Over You
189. Pharoahe Monch - Queens
190. Plan B - Cast A Light
191. Plan B - I Need Love
192. Plan B - No More Eatin'
193. Plan B - Suzanne
194. Puff Daddy - Bad Boy For Life
195. Rakim - Documentary Of A Gangsta
196. Redman - Smash Sumthin'
197. Redman - Tonight's Da Night
198. Royce Da 5'9 - Legendary
199. Sage Francis - The Best Of Times
200. Skinnyman - Council Estate Of Mind
201. Skinnyman - I'll Be Surprised
202. Skinnyman - Who Me
203. Slaughterhouse - Microphone
204. Slum Village - Fall In Love
205. Styles P - The Life
206. T.I. - Swagger Like Us (Remix)
207. The Beatnuts - Off The Books
208. The Fugees - Fu-gee-la
209. The Fugees - Manifest
210. The Fugees - The Score
211. The Fugees - Zealots
212. The Mitchell Brothers - Alone With The TV
213. The Mitchell Brothers - She's Got It All Wrong
214. The Pharcyde - Runnin'
215. The Roots - The Seed v2.0
216. Tinchy Stryder - Game Over
217. Tyler The Creator - Yonkers
218. Warren G - Regulate
219. Wu-Tang Clan - C.R.E.A.M.
220. Wu-Tang Clan - Gravel Pit
221. Wu-Tang Clan - Protect Ya Neck II (The Jump Off)
222. Wu-Tang Clan - Shame On A Nigga
223. Xzibit - At The Speed Of Life
224. Xzibit - Eyes May Shine
225. Xzibit - Eyes May Shine (Remix)
226. Xzibit - Paparazzi
227. Xzibit - The Foundation
228. Xzibit - What A Mess

Anyone else who reads it, what obvious stuff am I missing? I still reckon I probably have loads of gaps in my catalogue even though I've been obsessive for years :D

[Fro]

Off the top of my head, some artists that are absent there:

Black Star (+Mos Def and Talib Kweli solo)
Big L
Del the Funky Homosapien (specifically Deltron)
Wu-Tang solo shit
Clipse

[Morrison]

my top five hip-hop albums...

1. my beautiful dark twisted fantasy by kanye west - without a doubt my number one hip-hop album of all time. this record transcends hip-hop for me, and is absolutely one of the greatest albums i've ever heard, of any genre. it's up there with highway 61 revisited and kind of blue, that's how much i love it. i haven't gone more than a week without listening to it since it came out, and it completely dominated my stereo and headphones for months when it was first released, with very little else ever getting played during that time. makes me so happy.

2. enter the wu-tang(36 chambers) by the wu-tang clan - almost 1b, as this is the album that made me love hip-hop and want to dive into it. i'd of course been more than aware of rap music before i listened to this, had actually been into some of the mainstream stuff that got played on MTV, specifically DMX and radioplay jay-z('party up' and 'big pimpin' dominated my summer of 2000, and i couldn't get enough), but once i heard the grimy as shit production and lyricism of the wu-tang, something changed. i loved the personalities and the word play(i smoke on the mic like smokin' joe fraizer, the hell raiser, raising hell with the flavor. i mean COME ON.). it was all so interesting, the world they created and lived within, that once i read up on them, and learned about RZA's five year plan and all that first swing of solo albums, i was a bonafide hip-hop head. thanks to the wu i got into biggie and nas. they helped open so many doors, in my head, about what hip-hop was and could be, in stark contrast to the party anthems of MTV rap.

3. the low end theory by a tribe called quest - another pivotal moment in my hip-hop fandom was finding a tribe called quest. i knew who busta rhymes was because of his freaky videos for 'woo hah!' and 'put your hands where my eyes can see,' so during my journey down the rabbit hole that is allmusic.com, i ended up seeing that he was a member of a collective called the native tongues. sounded intriguing, so i read up about them, and of course saw a lot about a tribe called quest, with their 'socially conscious jazz-infused hip-hop.' first time i'd heard anything described that way within the hip-hop, from my studies, so i was eager to hear what that involved. by this time, my love for jazz was being watered by miles davis and john coltrane, so i was interested to see how that translated into rap. now, their debut, people's instinctive travels... was the first record i bought of theirs and listened to. absolutely a great album, got me into the group well enough to want to explore the rest of their discography, but didn't completely wow me. this album, however, blew me away. big part of that is the distinct upping of phife dawg on this record. tip is tip and all, but phife really holds the records together. everything clicks on their album. the smooth, silky beats, the wonderful wordplay and trading off of phife and tip; everything. this record showed me a whole different side of hip-hop. where the wu-tang wasn't anything like the mainstream rap i had heard, they were still very much a violent, 'gangsta' collective. tribe wasn't ANYTHING like the wu, showing me yet another face of rap music, that it's not always about macho posturing, as much fun as that can be sometimes.

4. ready to die by the notorious BIG - now, as much as i love all the records above this, i honestly don't love EVERYTHING those groups have put out. there have been missteps or songs that i'm just 'meh' on, but the same can't be said about biggie(i'm just really counting the first two albums, since he obviously didn't have say on anything that came out after his death). the level of intensity, intelligence and consistency from this man during his time in the game is unbelievable, and for me, it's no better shown than on his debut album. he's fierce, hungry and never lets up. the first half of the album is utterly insane. everytime i listen, the rawness of 'things done changed' and 'gimme the loot' still resonates with me like i'm hearing them for the first time. it's hard to even wrap my head around. he embodies the struggle of being human, not necessarily just being a black human. the subjects he touches on are so vast; he can make you tear up and the next moment you're terrified of him. on a certain day, at a certain time, i may tell you that this album is the most perfect hip-hop album in the world. and to be honest, deep down, i probably really do think it is.

there always seems to be a rotating carousel at the number five spot. changes depending on my mood. so i'm just gonna give a handful of 'mentions' for the fifth spot.

mm.. food by mf doom
vaudeville villain by mf doom
black star by mos def and talib kweli
illmatic by nas
reasonable doubt by jay-z
labor days by aesop rock
daily operation by gang starr
quality control by jurassic 5
the diary by scarface

[Simon]

Off the top of my head, some artists that are absent there:

Black Star (+Mos Def and Talib Kweli solo)
Big L
Del the Funky Homosapien (specifically Deltron)
Wu-Tang solo shit
Clipse

I have a lot of Wu and Big L stuff that just isn't among my favourite of all time...I found Black Star just a little *too* laid back for the most part, and didn't like Del at all...Clipse is a good shout though.

[son_of_foley]

You all probably heard this. But jesus this flow and lung control is insane

Kendrick Lamar - Rigamortis - YouTube

[son_of_foley]

I cant believe Simon that B.O.B and So Fresh So Clean are missing from Outkast. Two bonafide perfect songs

[Brennino]

Definately a young man's game when Ed Sheeran and Asher Roth are on a four-five star list of hip-hop songs and Big Daddy Kane, Big L, LL Cool J, Kool Moe Dee to name a few are nowhere to be seen.

I weep.

[Ringo]

:yes:

[Simon]

:dunno: Like I said this is just my favourite stuff, I have tons of Big L and LL Cool J that just isn't among my favourite 200 or so tracks...sadly a lot of older stuff like BDK, Kool Moe Dee and even Kool G Rap and KRS-One just leaves me a little cold; I can listen to it on occasion and enjoy it but it's not what I'd regularly listen to.

BTW the Ed Sheeran track is actually the instrumental for The A Team with a little-known UK rapper called Mikill Pane going over the top of it. And it's class.

Ed Sheeran - Little Lady (Ft. Mikill Pane) [AUDIO] - YouTube

[Simon]

I cant believe Simon that B.O.B and So Fresh So Clean are missing from Outkast. Two bonafide perfect songs

I tore the arse out of B.O.B. when I first heard it and have never really liked it since. TBH Outkast don't do a huge amount for me bar a few great tracks (Rosa Parks especially but also ATLiens, Player's Ball and a couple others whose names escape me).

It's very easy to criticise that list and I appreciate that, but then the same could be said of anyone's list I would say. There's a lot of music that I appreciate, enjoy and respect, without necessarily classing it among my absolute favourite music. Those 200 tracks are ones that I would almost always be in the mood to listen to if they came on shuffle.

[Brennino]

Well yeah I wasn't slating your choices its just true that it very much is a young person's music and frightens me as I don't know what I am supposed to listen to in 5 years time.

I stopped really getting interested in 'new' hip-hop with the astronomical rise of Lil' Wayne as my brain couldn't cope with why he was so popular and being mentioned in the same breath as some of the all time greats.

[Simon]

I am much the same as you, I spend far more time hunting out old gems (just recently got into Bumpy Knuckles and Jeru for example) than looking for new stuff.

That said, you have no soul if you can't watch this video (from a reject from X Factor no less!) and recognise legitimate talent. The kid is about fourteen.

The Astronomical Kid - All of the Lights Remix Video - YouTube

[Matthew]

i love a bunch of the stuff posted here. the B.o.B. remix (rage against the machine i think) is my personal fav version of the song.

surprised simon didn't have The Pharcyde - Passin' Me By, that's a choon.

my personal favorites have some nostalgic entertainment for myself, and some I just think are really good.
Atmosphere - Seven Travels and God Loves Ugly
DJ Danger Mouse - The Grey album (beatles/jay z mash up, though lacking D'Evils, which is awesome and makes me a bit sad inside). though i listened to this before The Black Album. switiching it up is always refreshing.
Deltron 3030, as Fro said. love the concept and it is just so fun.
Danger Doom - The Mouse and the Mask (loved the adult swim themed shit, made me fall for DOOM)

[G-Fresh]

I know some of ya'll dig C-Rayz Walz. He has lived in Indiana for a while now and my dude Freddy Bunz is a protege of his. Peep the new vid they made.

C-Rayz Walz - BLVCK ROSARIES (Celebrate) Ft. Freddie Bunz - MUSIC VIDEO - YouTube

[Red Dog]

OK Red Dog here are the 228 songs I have listed as 4/5 stars on my iTunes. Bear in mind these are just my absolute favourites, I still love all the 3 star stuff as well if you want it.



Anyone else who reads it, what obvious stuff am I missing? I still reckon I probably have loads of gaps in my catalogue even though I've been obsessive for years :D
Thanks Simon.

I will check them out over the weekend and let you know my thoughts :yes:

[G-Fresh]

(RANT) NoEmotion is My Name (RANT) - YouTube

[RuneEdge]

Jay-Z & Kanye West - Ni**as In Paris (Explicit) - YouTube

Standard live footage. Still love it though.

[Bert]

That video gave me a seizure.

That doesn't mean I don't like it though.

[G-Fresh]

Tech N9ne is gonna be featured on a track on RA The Rugged Man's next album. I'm surprised too cause I wouldn't figure Tech would want to be on a track where he isn't the best, especially after he was dominated by Ill Bill on "Only Time Will Tell."

[Bert]

Childish Gambino - Heartbeat DIRTY - YouTube

[Simon]

You're getting as bad as QuietStorm with his Canibus boner.

[Bert]

Because I posted one video? Ok, Simon.

[Morrison]

well, probably because you're the residential 'all things gambino' hype man. difference there is that you talk about a bunch of other shit, and QS is a one trick pony, most the time.

[TheChillidogger]

I know some of ya'll dig C-Rayz Walz. He has lived in Indiana for a while now and my dude Freddy Bunz is a protege of his. Peep the new vid they made.

C-Rayz Walz - BLVCK ROSARIES (Celebrate) Ft. Freddie Bunz - MUSIC VIDEO - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCTZ9LgO45U)

Freddy is dope.

[Fro]

This is a month old but I just saw it. Despite being pretty obnoxious in all of his videos, Hopsin is sick.

Hopsin - Hop SimonSin - YouTube

[G-Fresh]

Hop can rap, but he's a complete asshole.

[Fro]

I could see that.

[Bert]

This is a month old but I just saw it. Despite being pretty obnoxious in all of his videos, Hopsin is sick.

Hopsin - Hop SimonSin - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKhY5eJHJUA)



So, Hopsin is having a Don't Funk Up Our Beats contest and submitted his own entry.
Hopsin - Hop SimonSin - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKhY5eJHJUA)


Damn. He killed that shit.

:cool:

What proof is there that he's an asshole? He seems nice on twitter.

This is probably more of that not wanting to play with ICP crap.

[G-Fresh]

His bitching & moaning at The Siccness. He has also weaseled his way onto Twiztids next album.

[Fro]

Kendrick Lamar Feat. Gunplay - Cartoon & Cereal
(http://www.hulkshare.com/zsm1dszhcbfz)
Kendrick Lamar - Cartoon & Cereal [NEW] - YouTube

[son_of_foley]

Kendrick Lamar Feat. Gunplay - Cartoon & Cereal
(http://www.hulkshare.com/zsm1dszhcbfz)
Kendrick Lamar - Cartoon & Cereal [NEW] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UTm3BIP09o)

I'm late to the table but I love Kendrick

[G-Fresh]

Shavo speaking about AcHoZeN


We're remixing the album and adding some new artists. Rza and I appreciate ur patience. But like I said, this isn't just another Wu side project. It's got it's own life and soul. That's why we haven't just thrown it out there. I personally can't wait for all those interested to hear this crazy new style/genre of music. But there's just a lot going on with System, Wu and Rza right now. That's why I through a bunch of free tracks out there. We will all know when the time is right. I think this is the most long awaited album ever.

[son_of_foley]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFgdIBW180k&feature=youtu.be

Shit that's hard

[Bert]

http://FunnyOrDie.com/m/6kkx

I couldn't find it on Youtube yet.

[Stringer Bell]

http://www.mediafire.com/?uj8vy6zvnmal5kd

Blu and Madlib - UCLA

And it's dope. 100000x better than NoYork!
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[Bert]

Why do most of the songs sound like they were recorded in a hotel bathroom? (not counting the intro) I do like call my nga (cut him like a pizza, have him singing like Aretha) but it sounds like they recorded it backstage at a concert because there's also this muffled bass for whatever reason. Ez sounds perfectly fine though. I don't get it.

I listened to Deltron3030 for the first time today and can see why so many people like that album. According to wikipedia the second album is dropping in May.

I revisted Blueprint 3 because I wanted to hear Run This Town and I like it way more now than I did before.

[Stringer Bell]

Blu's been releasing stuff like that for years now. Unmixed, low quality leaks followed by a mastered hard copy (or digital in some cases) further down the line. I forgot his whole explanation for it, but I'm used to it by now. These beats sound nice and dusty anyway, I kinda like it.

[TheChillidogger]

M-Eighty is off the Rae tour cause he's banned from Canada.

[Miotch]

http://www.stonesthrow.com/news/2012/02/madlib-medicine-show-13-black-tape

[LOCONUT]

http://www.stonesthrow.com/news/2012/02/madlib-medicine-show-13-black-tape

SIIIICKK

[Brennino]

Fucking backpackers.

[Fro]

Video just dropped for Niggas in Poorest, and it's worth a view. The way he flipped and improved upon this song is awesome.

Yasiin Bey - N****s in Poorest - YouTube

[QuietStorm]

Listening to Tonedeff's "Archetype" for the first time in years and wondering how such a talented cat can't get another album out in the seven years since. WHERE'S CHICO AND THE MAN?

[QuietStorm]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3zCRQ8LE3U

Yup.

[Bert]

J. Cole - Grew Up Fast - YouTube

[BBF]

Watch The Throne Tour at the o2.... I'm there.

[MikeHunt]

Will be trying like a fucking bear to get tickets for it on Friday morning. Unless someone would like to supply me with a presale? I would be very thankful.

[Fro]

As Morrison and I have already attested to in here, the American tour was probably the best stadium hip hop set ever. So I highly recommend that you make it happen.

I say set instead of concert because it was just them, no opener, not even a DJ, but they played for about 2.5 hours. It was so immense. But tours that rolled deep like Up in Smoke or the Hard Knock Life Tour were probably better overall.

[Matthew]

http://soundcloud.com/myblogcliche/gorillaz-doyathing-feat-james

i love 3 stacks

[Morrison]

http://soundcloud.com/myblogcliche/gorillaz-doyathing-feat-james

i love 3 stacks

for reals. i want more than just guest spots from him, and SOON.

[Bert]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrFL3qKc8fk

2 Joell verses and no Royce verse? :panic:

I wonder how early before the release date the album will leak. :chin:

Recovery was like a month early.

[Bert]

I tried to post this in the post above but it's telling me I can only post 1 video per post.

Fix it km :(


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQHB7WwfGps

Crooked I's mixtape is out March 8th.

[QuietStorm]

Crook is the only Slaughterhouse I can deal with.

[G-Fresh]

Crook is the only Slaughterhouse I can deal with.

Fuckin word on that shit.

[son_of_foley]

Im seeing Watch the Throne in Dublin. Can't wait.

[MikeHunt]

Did you manage to get in through the presale?

[son_of_foley]

Did you manage to get in through the presale?

Yeah but it was a pre-sale through an irish ticket promotions company so only applied to Dublin

[MikeHunt]

I had a presale this morning but still diddly manage to get tickets one min after it opened. This is going to be solid tomorrow.

[Ringo]

I don't even know if I'll be able to go to this show, but will still try and get two tickets tomorrow anyway. Can sell them for big bucks on ebay if I can't innit.

[Ringo]

:wtf: I can get tickets now

oh only seated by the looks of it :\

[BBF]

There are 4 of us going. Standing tickets. 65 quid but WORTH IT.

FISH FILLET

[Ringo]

you got em?

you cunt :grumpy:

[BBF]

Yeah o2 priority. I don't think that album was THAT good but a huge set with both of them should be amazing.

[MikeHunt]

Anyone get tickets this morning? I got 4 for Tuesday. Sold out in 6 mins appaz.

[Ringo]

Only got through to the screen for UPPER TIER so I didn't bother. :\

[Winkle van Tinkle]

I got 6 tickets. Standing.

Hoping to get my works box so might have some for sale at face value for any rajah boys.

[Simon]

Can anyone recommend a good website that provides download links for new hip-hop tracks? The one I was using (something like www.ilovernb.com or similar gayness) no longer works.

[Simon]

Also, I have given Watch The Throne another try on three occasions and I still really don't see the fuss at all. That's My Bitch is a tune, and Otis, No Church In The Wild and Niggas In Paris are all decent...but fuck knows what the fuss is with this album and this tour.

[MikeHunt]

It's kanye and jay-z on tour together. What sounds suit about that? Have you seen the set list Simon? The fuss is totally justified.

[Ringo]

What fuss? General view of the WTT album seems to be that it was somewhat disappointing. Some real bangers on there, but I think a lot of people expected better.

And the fuss about the tour has a lot more to do with the spectacle of it all.

See Fro's post:


If anyone has a chance to go to one of the remaining 17 Watch the Throne shows, fucking go man. The show was incredible. 2 and a half hours of non-stop hip hop excellence. By the end of it I was physically exhausted. The set production is the best I've ever seen - tons of perfectly synchronized lights, lasers and pyrotechnics, illuminated moving set pieces that rise out of the stage and floor, video screens all over the place - the works - all seamlessly executed. None of the audio and vocal flaws that typically plague rap concerts - the sound quality was excellent and both guys performed their asses off.

Two legends putting on a show for the ages. Seriously, go. You will not be disappointed.

More than just the quality of the songs on the album.

[Simon]

That sounds like the antithesis of what a hip-hop gig should be about for me. I blame Puffy for this shit, lasers and videos etc. Nas at the Astoria in '03, THAT was a hip-hop show. Esco, the Braveheartz and a DJ spinning and scratching throughout, no more or less.

[MikeHunt]

I've seen nas live on several occasions and with Damian marley. All shows amazing but I can honestly say I've never been this excited about a hip hop gig since public enemy nations of millions tour.

[Simon]

Just looked at the setlist...weak. I know they want to play new stuff and get people buying the CD but the majority of Jay-Z's classics aren't on the setlist. I know everyone has their favourites but no Can't Knock The Hustle/D'Evils/Dead Presidents/Never Let You Down is unforgiveable, particularly when the setlist appears to include Niggas In Paris SEVEN times!

[Winkle van Tinkle]

Just looked at the setlist...weak. I know they want to play new stuff and get people buying the CD but the majority of Jay-Z's classics aren't on the setlist. I know everyone has their favourites but no Can't Knock The Hustle/D'Evils/Dead Presidents/Never Let You Down is unforgiveable, particularly when the setlist appears to include Niggas In Paris SEVEN times!

Depends on what show you've been to. NIP has been played up to about 11 times I think

Ni**as in Paris by the numbers.....

34: Concert dates.
2.5 hours: Estimated running time of each WTT concert.
85 hours: Total running time for 34 dates.
168: Total number of times "Ni**as in Paris" played in concert.
11: In Vancouver (12/17)
10: Los Angeles (12/14)
9: Chicago (12/1); Los Angeles (12/13)
2: Atlanta (10/28)
0: Paris
4.94: Average number of times "Paris" played, per night.
18: Minutes, on average, per date.
40:25: Running time, in minutes, of "Paris" in Vancouver, after being played 11 times.
613.2: Total live running time, in minutes.
194: Running time, in minutes, of the movie Titanic.
705: Running time, in minutes, of Band of Brothers miniseries.
26.7: Full House episodes one could watch, in that time.
2: Seconds of "married Kate and Ashley" per "Paris."
5:36: Minutes total, as performed on tour.
93: Running time of Blades of Glory, in minutes.
10: Seconds of dialogue from Blades of Glory, on the CD version of the song.
28: Total number of minutes of Blades of Glory dialogue, when played 168 times.
134: Total times Jay-Z said, "Again!"
1,680: "Don't let me get in my zone"-s.
2,856: "Ball so hard"-s.
0: New Jersey Nets' regular-season games so far this year.
2,184: "CRAY"-s.
652,200: Estimated number of Watch the Throne tour tickets sold.
298.6: Ticketholders per "CRAY."
3:39: Length, in minutes, of studio recording.
2,150: Cost, in euros, of a night in the Deluxe Suite at the Hôtel Meurice (http://www.lemeurice.com/) in Paris, where "Ni**as in Paris" was recorded.
1,144,000: Copies of Watch the Throne sold, as of December 11th (http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.17960/title.hip-hop-album-sales-the-week-ending-12-11-2011).
1:Business card thrown to get kicked out of a Watch the Throne show. (http://www.fakeshoredrive.com/2011/12/video-kanye-kicks-out-fan-for-throwing-business-card-on-stage.html/)
$50,ooo: Amount Jay-Z had to pay for visiting the Kentucky Wildcats' locker room (http://www.sbnation.com/2011-ncaa-tournament/2011/3/30/2080276/jay-z-nba-investigation-kentucky-final-four).
$99.50: That fine, per "mothafuckers wanna fine me" performed.
$1,463.00: Price of a Margiela leather jacket (http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/catalog/prod.jhtml?itemId=prod133590104&eItemId=prod129990101&cmCat=search&searchType=MAIN&parentId=&icid=&rte=%2Fsearch.jhtml%3FNtt%3Dmargiela%26_requestid% 3D13118%26N%3D4294966789), currently 30 percent off at Neiman Marcus.
$3.50: Cost of a Filet-o-Fish at McDonald's.
$3,305.00: Secondary-market value for a floor seat to WTT's opening night in Atlanta (10/28).
944: Filet-o-Fish's that could buy.
358,828: Calories in 944 Filet-o-Fish's.
10.22: Total running time of "Ni**as in Paris," in hours.
8.3: Flight from Chicago to Paris, non-stop, in hours.
8.5: Flight from Paris to New York, non-stop, in hours.
6: Live coverage of Prince William and Kate Middleton's wedding proceedings, start to finish, in hours.

…WHICH IS:
2: Round-trips from London to Paris, via high-speed train.
23.5: Loops around Paris, via Boulevard Périphérique, at the legal speed limit of 80km/h (50mph).
6.5: Screenings of Woody Allen's Midnight in Paris (2011).
2: Circles one could make (reasonably) walking between the three Hermès shops in Paris, spending an hour at each.

[Winkle van Tinkle]

Double post.

Irregardless; couldn't be more excited about this show. Will be fucking excellent. Piss off Simon; go and See Koca Kola or whoever your rubbish mate is.

[MikeHunt]

Hahaha. 2nd post perfection from winkle.

[Simon]

Sweet enjoy your show Cuncha, you bringing popcorn with you or will you just buy a tub at the concert?

Eleven times :lol: value for money there. Honestly though, whatever floats your boat and I'm sure it will be a spectacle, but Fro's review is exactly what I wouldn't want from a show, and the setlist has a degree in wackenomics.

[Fro]

That sounds like the antithesis of what a hip-hop gig should be about for me. I blame Puffy for this shit, lasers and videos etc. Nas at the Astoria in '03, THAT was a hip-hop show. Esco, the Braveheartz and a DJ spinning and scratching throughout, no more or less.

Preferring the intimacy of a small venue performance to a stadium show is completely fair and something most people would probably agree with in general. But when a stadium show is done big and done right it can really be amazing.

[Simon]

I lied about the Nas gig anyway, there were a couple of breakdancers. Nas sold out :(

[Chris Scott]

A tune I heard for the first time in about 15 years earlier, the Menace 2 Society tune. Now I need to watch the film #Memories

[son_of_foley]

WTT will be awesome. What an odd series of comments