Hip Hop Discussion/Album Review Thread.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Simon's sending me 'Dance with the devil' as I type this...

[Simon]

QuietStorm recommended it to me :D

[Seanny One Ball]

*sigh* I'm still waiting for RTJ to arrive from amazon, I ordered it after several hours wandering through Perth and Dundee trying to find a single copy of it in any music shop. Alas, Scotland doesn't appreciate Canibus :(

[Suno]

Yeh, Props to UMDeep, Im mos def feelin this Immortal Techniques, Dance With The Devil is fucking scary ill.

Im in the process of d/ling volume 1 from soulseek, vol v hasnt cropped up yet

[Simon]

Nowhere does.

I'm slowly warming to him, but I'd still prefer not listening to him to listening to him.

[Seanny One Ball]

The sad thing about you Simon, is that you say all this and yet defend your love of Angie Martinez.

[Simon]

Say what you want about her, her lyrics are competent, if a little basic, she doesn't embarass herself on the mic and her beats are better than 90% of what is put out. I'm into the whole Spanish hip-hop thing anyway, which helps, a lot of her beats have a Spanish feel to them.

Plus any album that has TONY SUNSHINE on it gets my vote. Best backing singer out. Hope he doesn't release a solo album and embarass himself the way Nate Dogg did.

[Suno]

Angie is fucing wack, this is a mans game, so i bet Angie thought she had a chance, fucking gender bender.

LOLz, I thought you said her breasts are better than 90% of what is put out, fat joe got nicer tits than angie, and his are real, and hairy!

[Simon]

Fat Joe on MTV at the Beach...NO NO NO NO NO

[Prince XL]

Say what you want about her, her lyrics are competent, if a little basic, she doesn't embarass herself on the mic and her beats are better than 90% of what is put out.

:hahano:

Angie is poor. Plain and simple. She's not even one of the best female MCs out there. I dont know what you are listening to to say she's better than 90% of everyone in the game.

Fix up :rant:

Disses Nate Dogg in the same post where you big up Angie Martinez


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

:wtf:

[Raw Is Jonathan]

That Angie Martinez song you sent me was dire Simone.

She's fit, don't get me wrong, but she should just sit there looking pretty.

[Simon]

:hahano:

Angie is poor. Plain and simple. She's not even one of the best female MCs out there. I dont know what you are listening to to say she's better than 90% of everyone in the game.

Fix up :rant:

Disses Nate Dogg in the same post where you big up Angie Martinez


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

:wtf:I said her beats were better than 90% of the game...listen to them and say that if someone you rated was flwoing on them, you wouldn't like it.

I'm not dissing Nate Dogg, when he drops a chorus, it's invariably on a classic. But his voice doesn't hold for a whole album, listen to Music And Me...it's shocking. I rate Tony Sunshine as one of the best backing singers around, but his voice wouldn't hold for an album either.

[Simon]

Oh and now I think of it Jon, I didn't send you one of her better efforts. Weak beat on that one. I got it confused with a track called 'Never' where the beat is nice and she flows well over it.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Well you're not sending me any more of her efforts!

[QuietStorm]

:lol:

[Simon]

OMG u dnt like her u must be fag

[QuietStorm]

This day has been a fun waste guys. I can probably hook you all up with some of the Immortal Technique on this computer even though I don't have it all here yet.

umdeepterp@hotmail.com

[Soopa Eddie]

D in D Block means?

[spanish announce table]

Nothing. D Block basically means Cell Block D of a jail. At least, thats what I read on Jae Hood's website a year ago. Dope ass Sticky sig

...do you feel the way I feel...
DO YOU FUCKIN FEEL IT!

[jesus sucks]

Blahahahahahahaha!

I went into HMV yesterday and bought this album on import for £16.99 after seeing it got 5 mics in the source and that Scarface was in the group. The Geto Boys "GRIP IT! On that other level"

Omg omg this is the funniest and one of the best albums of all time. I can't believe it took me this long to buy it. Everyone get this album somehow, it's awesome. The music is quality. And I've been quoting it all day in work. It's just like NWA but even funnier and the beats are just as good.

[Simon]

5 Mics when? Pre or post that time when the Source started sucking a giant Benzino sized corporate dick?

[jesus sucks]

Probably when they started sucking benzino sized dick and gave a ton of cd's 5 mics. I don't even really give a shit about the source, but it's the best mag out of a bad bunch like.
Still. The albums they'be given five mics with the exception of all the Run Dmc and Stillmatic give or take a few others all deserve it n it's a good way to find new classics.

[Simon]

www.rapreviews.com

[Fro]

Kinda random but who's heard the Pump It Up remix with Jigga and Budden? That's some dope shi*t, especially Joe's verse. Dude's got skills.

"packin a mackin in the back of an acura, no
flappin the gat we be rappin the caddy but naw..."

Dope.

[Simon]

Shite.

[spanish announce table]

Why is Joe stealing Pun's line?

[Simon]

Cos he's a no talent crapwipe, I guess.

I say Pun would be considered the best of all time if he'd have dropped a few more albums.

[jesus sucks]

He would if latino rap didn't all suck. I've got that capital punishment and it's gay.

[Simon]

Oh my Christ.

[spanish announce table]

:flamed: How can you say that? Fast Money is one of the BEST stories I've ever heard. The battle raps on Beware and You Aint A Killer are awesome. And the flow and lyrics on Super Lyrical are so incredible, Black Thought sounds like crap next to him on that track, and Thought's one of my favorites.

I admit, Yeeaaah Baby wasnt all that good, but Capital Punishment was dope

[Fro]

Capitol Punishment is without doubt a classic album. Pun kills that sh*t with crazy skills. Check the song "Twinz." It's one of the illest songs ever.

[Prince XL]

And the flow and lyrics on Super Lyrical are so incredible, Black Thought sounds like crap next to him on that track, and Thought's one of my favorites.



I'm so glad i'm not the only one that thinks this. I love Thought but on 'super lyrical' Pun makes him look distinctly amature.

[Simon]

Yup, Pun rips him on that, and that's really saying something...there's a part in it where he's talking about 'tape to CD lasery' that is absolutely incredible...hang on I'll go listen and put it down...

[spanish announce table]

Just call me baby Jesus, cause lately n*ggas been praising me/
Just for the way I blaze the beat crazily/
Tape to CD lazery/
The way I rhyme's amazingly flavory/....

Twinz and Tres Leches are classic songs

[Simon]

More than just those two...

Beware
You Ain't A Killer
Still Not A Player
You Came Up
The Dream Shatterer

All those, I'd consider classics. Dream Shatterer is the definition of flow.

[spanish announce table]

Dream Shatterer is so awesome. Simply amazing

[50 Cent]

Dream Shatterer is so awesome. Simply amazing


He recorded lines at a time.

[Simon]

Most artists do, it's to make it sound better. not because he can't flow it...I guess he must have been Milli Vanilli-ing when he did it live...

[jackielover144]

I just got the Mariah Carey re-release Charmbracelet CD and it's got some killer tracks plus some classics with Jay-Z, Freeway, Cam'ron and West Side Connection.

1. Through The Rain- Not really down with pop music, but Mariah does her thing in the song she wrote on her own. Great song.

2. Boy(I Need You) This is a remake of Cam's hit Oh boy and Mariah doesn't do anything speacial with the song but Camron's rap is excellent.

3. The One- A groovy R&B track where there is no over done vocals and it features JD. JD can really produce some hot tracks.

4. Yours- A R&B/Pop song she also is said to have a duet version with Justin Timberlake.

5. You got Me- feat. Freeway, and Jay-Z I never thought I could get down on a Mariah track, but this seals the deal. This is just as hot as the Busta track and Freeway's rap is excelent.

6. I Only Wanted- A ballod that is very strong.

7. Clown- Dedicated to Eminem. Another hot Mariah track where she even decides to rap the hook calling him a puppet show and a cry baby. Lyrics are awesome. Never thought Mariah could appeal to the hip hop community like she is now.

8. My Saving Grace- The girl does gospel and the song is a lyric masterpeice.

9. You Had Your Chance- Mariah delivers R&B like only she can with some more strong lyrics.

10. Lullaby- I don't really care for this song. It's a good track though.

11. Irresistable feat West Side connection- This track is hot. Ice Cube, Mac 10, and all the rest join in on what is a banging track from start to finsih. Lyrics are mad tight.

12. Subtle Invitation- Nice lyrics, but it tends to
fall into the R&B/pop catagory

13. Bringing On the heartbreak- This is a cover of the Def Leppoard Rock classic. Mariah does a great job, but it falls into the pop/rock catagory.

14. Sunflowers for Alfred Roy- A song dedicated to her dad.

15. Through the Rain Remix feat Joe and Kelly Price Mariah delivers a r&b spin to her hit song.

16. I Know What You Want / Busta Rhymes feat Mariah Carey, and the Flipmode squad. This is a banging track. Mariah and Busta make for a good duo.

17. Gotta Thing For You feat. Da Brat- Nice lyrics by Brat. She is so damn rowdy.

18. There Goes My Heart- Mariah delivers what could be a R&b classic.

19. The One Remix- The remix features Bone Crusher and its hot.

20. Missing You feat Jadakiss- This is abonus on some CD's but if your lucky enough to hear this blazing track you'll love it.

Mariah Carey has really surprised me. I have much love for her and all her efforts to get her career back on Track. I just hope Whitney can do the same.

[jesus sucks]

It's not that good. His words all mumble together. And the beat sucks. If you want an example of the best flow, Q Tip's verse in Mobb Deep's classic drink away the pain is better than anything Big Pun could ever have dreamed of doing, and all the words are clear, and the song has a good beat.

Capital Punishment is one of the worst albums I ever bought, and it only cost £7 when I got it, total waste of money. Almost every beat sucks, decent lyrical content but pun is a horrible rapper.

[Simon]

Capital Punishment is one of the worst albums I ever bought, and it only cost £7 when I got it, total waste of money. Almost every beat sucks, decent lyrical content but pun is a horrible rapper.For someone with 300 albums, you sure seem to know fuck all about rap music :\

[jesus sucks]

Say's you. I know plenty. It's not like you ever hear Capital Punishment regarded as one of the greats. It's just known as "the best of the two albums by that dead guy".

The beats are garbage. Just listen to how twatty the beat in still not a player. Tinny piano and clikky noise. The rest of the songs are more hardcore but are mainly a ton of trumpets and bass that is too low for Pun's shite voice to be heard over, he raps too fast for himself to handle so you can't make out 50% of the lyrics. Prodigy murders him on his own shit... and for a song produced by the RZA even that has a garbage beat.

[Simon]

Everything you just said is wrong. Still Not A Player is generally considered to be one of the great club anthems, Prodigy simply doesn't touch him, he even edges Black Thought on Super Lyrical, the beats are absolute top notch and the rest of what you've said seems to imply that you need your hearing tested...I have no trouble making out his lyrics, neither because the bass overshadows him nor because he raps too fast...

[jesus sucks]

Everything you just said is wrong. Still Not A Player is generally considered to be one of the great club anthems,
By who? I haven't heard it played anywhere in a club, bar or even on radio in about 3 or 4 years...


Prodigy simply doesn't touch him,
:lol: He kills him on that song and Prodigys HNIC album alone is about 2 billion times greater than all of Puns career put together. How can anyone say Pun is better than Prodigy!! :wtf: [/qote]


he even edges Black Thought on Super Lyrical,
Yes, but Black thought is incredibly lazy on alot of songs. and Pun probably payed him more so he looked better...


the beats are absolute top notch

No.... no...
No.

This is totally laughable. Top notch is Only Built for Cuban Linx. Top notch is The Chronic, top notch is the Low End Theory, Top notch is The Blueprint, Illmatic? ..... Capital Punishment is not anywhere near that level, not ever.


and the rest of what you've said seems to imply that you need your hearing tested...I have no trouble making out his lyrics,
Probably because you surf the internet looking for them.


neither because the bass overshadows him nor because he raps too fast...

Busta rhymes used to rap fast because he could pull it off, ditto with Big Boi amoung other. Again. Big Pun cannot do it, he mumbles words into the next word and it just doesn't sound good.

[Simon]

By who? I haven't heard it played anywhere in a club, bar or even on radio in about 3 or 4 years...I've heard it on many occasions, including places that aren't hip hop-centric.



:lol: He kills him on that song and Prodigys HNIC album alone is about 2 billion times greater than all of Puns career put together. How can anyone say Pun is better than Prodigy!! :wtf: I love Mobb Deep, but there's just no way Prodigy is better than Pun.



Yes, but Black thought is incredibly lazy on alot of songs. and Pun probably payed him more so he looked better...Conspiracy theories? Clutching at straws a little, no?




No.... no...
No.

This is totally laughable. Top notch is Only Built for Cuban Linx. Top notch is The Chronic, top notch is the Low End Theory, Top notch is The Blueprint, Illmatic? ..... Capital Punishment is not anywhere near that level, not ever.The Blueprint beats are mediocre to say the least, Cuban Linx, Low End Theory and Chronic are all classics, Illmatic's beats aren't amazing but that was deliberate, keeping them minimalist to ensure Nas' lyrics shone...Tell me that Dream Shatterer, Tres Leches, Beware and You Ain't A Killer aren't quality beats. The bass that kicks in at the start of Beware is, IMO, up there with the first piano note on Shook Ones 2, for sheer hardcore quality that just makes you KNOW that a great track is coming. Still Not A Player and You Came Up are both great club tracks, again the bassline on You Came Up is just class...



Probably because you surf the internet looking for them.Again, a very weak argument. Pun isn't hard to understand at all.




Busta rhymes used to rap fast because he could pull it off, ditto with Big Boi amoung other. Again. Big Pun cannot do it, he mumbles words into the next word and it just doesn't sound good.Busta can't actually rhyme the way he does on his albums...he's notorious for it on live shows. Pun has no problem with it, and I maintain that you saying it's hard to understand his words is a problem that you have, rather than he had.

[EL-ASSO-WIPO]

I just got the Mariah Carey re-release Charmbracelet CD and it's got some killer tracks plus some classics with Jay-Z, Freeway, Cam'ron and West Side Connection.


:shocked:



Killer tracks with Cam'ron, west side connection, and freeway? I think ill pass. Have u seen Cam'ron lately? He rocks pink. PINK for christ sake. He is like the richard simmons of rap.

[Simon]

Camron's always been shit. Only song I've ever liked off him was that "I'm a boy boooooooy" song, cos the beat was nice...what was that called again?

:hyper:

[EL-ASSO-WIPO]

Who gives a fuck he wears a Pink. I refuse to acknowledge his presence on this earth.

[spanish announce table]

Neither Prodigy or Ins touched Pun on Trylogy. Deck came close, but definitely not Prodigy. Meh, it's just your opinion. HNIC was a dope album but those were some of the worst hooks I've ever heard, and I'm a Canibus fan

[QuietStorm]

As far as dead and fat rappers go Pun shits all over Biggie. My opinion though:\.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Sure I saw an new I.N.S album today in Virgin, were my eyes decieving me or something?

[QuietStorm]

The Movement came out June 24th or somewhere around there. Haven't heard it yet. Will download sometime.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Wonder if Masta Killa will ever drop an album...

[jesus sucks]

Meh. Seems I'm the only one on this forum at least who thinks Pun sucks. And the beats on illmatic are great, It ain't hard to tell and Halftime are two of the best beats ever made. I once saw you say "I Am" is a better album than illmatic so what do you know.

And Prodigy > Pun. Prodigy tears it up on every track on HNIC. He's not really a hook singy kinda rapper. Listen to the words, they're quality.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Come off it, surely even Simon isn't retarded enough to say I am is better than Illmatic!

[spanish announce table]

Prodigy seems unmotivated on a lot of tracks on HNIC like "YBE" and "Lived with the bullshit". No doubt, it was a good album, but it wasn't better than Capital Punishment in my opinion. It's better than Yeaaah Baby though.

I Am... better than Illmatic? With tracks like "Money is my Bitch" and "K-I-S-S-I-N-G", how can you compare it to Illmatic? Illmatic is way better, but I Am still has some dope songs on it. "Undying Love" is an awesome story and "NY State of Mind pt II" is hot.

New Outkast

Big Boi of Outkast: "The Way You Move"
http://www.arista2.com/mp3s/the_way_you_move.mp3

Andre 3000 of Outkast: "Hey Ya"
http://www.arista2.com/mp3s/hey_ya.mp3

Why are people all over Dre's back? This song is crazy

[Blackhawk]

New Outkast

Big Boi of Outkast: "The Way You Move"
http://www.arista2.com/mp3s/the_way_you_move.mp3

Andre 3000 of Outkast: "Hey Ya"
http://www.arista2.com/mp3s/hey_ya.mp3

Why are people all over Dre's back? This song is crazy

Damn I can't wait for their new album, :drool:

[jesus sucks]

Come off it, surely even Simon isn't retarded enough to say I am is better than Illmatic!

He did. dunno what thread but it was on this forum. He was in an argument with that strange famous guy or somebody similar.

[spanish announce table]

Damn I can't wait for their new album, :drool:

I'm hearing either September 9th or September 23rd. Should be awesome. There was a rumor that Andre is going to have an eight minute autobigraphical song :hyper: and it will the be the only track featured on his album with him rapping

[jesus sucks]

Has anyone else got the new Daz album "DPGC You know what I'm throwin Up". I got it a week ago and have been listening to it ever since. Daz tears it up on every song. Its got to be the most hardcore West Coast album I've ever heard! Its great. Suge Knight is a bitch ass nigga alright. Theres a bonus DVD with it and its classic, Daz so f'ing funny. And theres two videos on it, One for U AINT SHIT and one for DEEZ NIGGAZ TRIPPIN. Cheap videos but that's whats so good about em. Snoop does all the interludes on the album and they're tight.

Recommended, 9/10 but you've gotta love west coast to like this one. UKers can get it for a tenner at Play.com. Its like 22 quid in HMV.

Daz is totally independent now so he can say what he wants which is why it's so hardcore.

[QuietStorm]

Why don't you take yourself a flight out to California and say that to Suge's face. Sound good you fake ass European wannabe gangster?

And the Daz album sucks. I expect more out of him. Like maybe his own production? And being with So So Def means he will now be So So Shitty. Just an unbalanced psycho shit talker is all he is now.

And Jesus doesn't suck. Jesus rules.

[Simon]

I'd kill Suge in a fight. I'd just tempt him with little...tiny onions, and then OOPS upside the head with a frying pan.

:$

[Flow]

N*E*R*D*'s "In Search Of..." is a fiver in HMV, I heard it's good n i've heard it's shite...

considering it's a fiver, is it worth gettin?

[Simon]

It's ok...not really a hip-hop album though.

There are a few good tracks on it, but HMV is selling far better albums for £5 :yes:

[Flow]

not in southend they ain't :\

it was written is about £7... that's about it though

[Simon]

Hmm...well, I've got the following albums for under £7 in the last few months...

Illmatic
I Am
All Eyez On Me
Bulletproof Wallets
Moment Of Truth
7 Day Theory
The Score
Whut? Thee Album
Temples Of Boom
Black Sunday
Stoned Raiders

:)

[Flow]

I've got

Doggystyle
Life After Death (dodgy version)
Stillmatic
Blueprint
and a few others i can't remember

for under seven quid, none of em out of HMV though :\

they did have all eyez on me actually, now the've only got like until the end of time for about 20 quid.

[Simon]

Are you sure you're looking properly? I'm not taking the piss, it's just that whenever I go there are loads of cheap rap albums out, and Jon says it's the same up in Birmingham (though I think they maybe have a different currency because they're all poor up there)...and also their website is showing the exact albums that are going cheap at the HMV near me:

Bone Thugs - Collection volume 2 (£4.99)
Company Flow - Little Johnny From The Hospital (£4.99)
Cypress Hill - Black Sunday (£5.99)
Cypress Hill - IV (£4.99)
Cpyress Hill - Skull And Bones (£4.99)
De La Soul - Three Feet High And Rising (£5.99)
Dead Prez - Let's Get Free (£6.99)
Eminem - Marshall Mathers LP (£6.99)
Eminem - Slim Shady LP (£6.99)
Eve - Eve-olution (£6.99)
Funk Flex - Mixtape v2, v3, v4 (£4.99 each)
Warren G - Take A Look Over Your Shoulder (£4.99)
Guru - Jazzmatazz volume 2: New Reality £4.99)
Lauryn Hill - Miseducation...(£5.99)
Ice Cube - Amerikkkas Most Wanted (£6.99)
Jay Z - Chapter One (£5.99)
Jay Z - Volume 2: Hard Knock Life (£4.99)
Jurassic 5 - Jurassic 5 (£5.99)
Luniz - Operation Stackola (£4.99)
Nas - Illmatic (£5.99)
Nas - Nastradamus (£6.99)
N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton (£3.99)
Onyx - Bacdafucup (£4.99)
Busta Rhymes - Genesis (£4.99)
Roots Manuva - Run Cum Save Me (£6.99)
DJ Shadow - Endtroducing (£5.99)
Snoop Dogg - The Last Meal (£6.99)
Snoop Dogg - Top Dogg (£5.99)
Wu-Tang Clan - Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) (£4.99)
Wu-Tang Clan - The W (£4.99)
2pac - Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z. (£6.99)
2pac - 2pacalypse Now (£6.99)

All of those should be available in your HMV if you look hard enough :yes:

[Flow]

2pac - Strictly 4 My N.I.G.G.A.Z. (£6.99)
2pac - 2pacalypse Now (£6.99)

they're both £16.99 in my HMV for definite.

i've already got straight outta compton, the nwa greatest hits was pretty cheap though.

s'pose i can have a better look when i go there next

[Simon]

You're getting fucked then :no:

Buy them off the website I guess.

Or just get the N.E.R.D. album like you wanted to in the first place :D

[Flow]

i could just as easily download it... dunno if i want it to be honest, i only want it for lapdance anyway.

[Simon]

I'd recommend downloading Noreaga's 'Superthug' then...the beat is almost exactly the same as 'Lapdance', and the song is better :yes:

[Flow]

bet the chorus aint as good though :D

*goes to download superthug*

[Simon]

Only cos Vita's voice sounds like that of a dirty whore :D.

Come to think of it...na, it would be rude to say that about her :D

[spanish announce table]

I'd kill Suge in a fight. I'd just tempt him with little...tiny onions, and then OOPS upside the head with a frying pan.

:$

:lol: SKIPPAY!

1600th post :headbang:

[Blackhawk]

Anyone else REALLY anticipating Pharoahe Monch's new album next month(I think). Been listening to his Agent Orange single a lot and found the lyrics to the song, funny how subtle a lot of things are in this song, here's the first verse

Pissed on the motherfucking White House lawn
I threw a rock, then I ran
Cause I couldn't stand anymore within the grip of the man
Y'all wanna ask me who's sane
These biological gasses are eating my brain
Its a political grab bag to rape mother earth
Thirty seconds after they bagged dad for what he's worth
Thousands will die now so millions can smile later
This ain't the Rockford Files nigga
They stockpile data for satellites
Where you discuss who's style is greater
In this killing pool you playing it cool like Kyle Jada
When ya'll ready to rock like Led Zep and Al Qaeda
With weapons of mass destruction an hour later
What's your identity today?
You on some John F. Kennedy or Timothy McVeigh?
This Hennessy done left me with a remedy to spray
For my identity your life is the penalty to pay
Motherfucker

[jesus sucks]

Why don't you take yourself a flight out to California and say that to Suge's face. Sound good you fake ass European wannabe gangster?

And the Daz album sucks. I expect more out of him. Like maybe his own production? And being with So So Def means he will now be So So Shitty. Just an unbalanced psycho shit talker is all he is now.

And Jesus doesn't suck. Jesus rules.

What the fuck? Mong.

[jesus sucks]

N*E*R*D*'s "In Search Of..." is a fiver in HMV, I heard it's good n i've heard it's shite...

considering it's a fiver, is it worth gettin?

It's great. took overa year for it to grow on me, now i love it. Its worth a fiver just for the track 'brain' alone.

[Simon]

What the fuck? Mong.He's got a point, though. You're happy enough calling Suge a bitch while he's doing time and you're sitting at your computer screen halfway across the world, say it to his face and you'll crap in your pants and cry like a baby getting raped by R. Kelly.

[Flow]

It's great. took overa year for it to grow on me, now i love it. Its worth a fiver just for the track 'brain' alone.

downloaded it now, give it a listen in the mornin

[jesus sucks]

He's got a point, though. You're happy enough calling Suge a bitch while he's doing time and you're sitting at your computer screen halfway across the world, say it to his face and you'll crap in your pants and cry like a baby getting raped by R. Kelly.

:zzz:

[Simon]

Damn, I got *dx*d to the Nth degree.

[50 Cent]

Westside COnnection are dropping a album later this year called Terorist Threat should be another banger. Wesiiiiiiiiide 4 life

DMX Grand Champ should be hot as fuck the 2 singles out right now are awesome, Where da Hood at is grimey as fuck, and Ayo Kato is a nice song, looks like the old dog is back.

Hopefully 2003 end with a bang because it sure has been the worst 8 months for hip hop in recent memory.

What we should look forward to by the end of 2003 hopefully.

DMX-Grand Champ
Outkast-Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
Jay-Z-Black Album
2Pac-Untitled Double Album and Soundtrack
Westside Connection-Terrorist Threat
Method Man-The Prequel 2075

[Hack]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000AGWFR.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg


Awww yes.

[jesus sucks]

What the? The other cover was much better.

[strange famous]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000AGWFR.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg


Awww yes.

awww yes.

http://www.arista2.com/mp3s/the_way_you_move.mp3
http://www.arista2.com/mp3s/hey_ya.mp3

i don't know if those'll work, but i tried. enjoy.

sin six

sin six: sin six 3000

[Hack]

Much appreciated, Strangeeeeeeee. I need this album.

[Simon]

The Way You Move is crap, the beat is 80's in a bad way...though the flow is nice.

Just gonna listen to the other one now :eek:

[Simon]

Ok what the hell is this?! Hey Ya is just...weird.

Those songs both suck :\ I still hold hope that the album/albums will be quality, but those songs weren't much good :\

[QuietStorm]

Not much of an Outkast fan here. Not really anticipating it at all.

Having heard Tonedeff's new Underscore LP last week, I can't wait until his Archetype LP project is done. He has been working on that shit for over 4 years now. God, I love Tonedeff and Extended F@mm. Anyone else?

[spanish announce table]

Ok what the hell is this?! Hey Ya is just...weird.

Those songs both suck :\ I still hold hope that the album/albums will be quality, but those songs weren't much good :\

I love "Hey Ya". I think it's better than Big Boi's track, but both songs are good.

:yes: I finally got Rip The Jacker. I still haven't given it a complete listen, but it's very impressive so far.

[Friday]

The more I listen to Rip the Jacker, the more I like it.

[QuietStorm]

Yeah it is pretty damn good ain't it?

[Simon]

The more I listen to 'Small World' by Nas, the more I think it's one of the best beats I've ever heard, and a really awesome song.

[spanish announce table]

The more I listen to 'Small World' by Nas, the more I think it's one of the best beats I've ever heard, and a really awesome song.

Really good track. The storytelling on the I Am... album is some of the best I've heard.

QuietStorm, I forget which track it is, but Canibus says something like "after this album, my message is over". Is he retiring?

[QuietStorm]

Never. He is currently talking about that stupid BlackMilc project which is destined to fail. I can't stand the fusion of rock and rap. He isn't even the front man for that so it'll probably suck kinda like Rip Rock did(only bad track off of Can-I-Bus). In his recent interviews he always says there is much more in store.

Since RTJ was in theory possibly the final chapter of the independant trylogy he may be looking to sign with a major label soon.

[spanish announce table]

My Canibus-Rip The Jacker review

1. Genabis – The first verse is simply awesome. The way compares himself as creating rap the same way to God creating the universe was creative. The production is nice. The little bells, or whatever it is, and the hint of the opera singers sounds good. ***1/2

2. Psych Evaluation – The beat sounds like something out of a horror movie. Really eerie-sounding. The hook is a bunch of samples and that female voice in it is creepy. The stand out lines for me come in the third verse:

“I’ve lost interest in the battle glory and glamour/ But I cant control Rip the Jacker when he gets amped up/ It doesn’t matter, we’ve all got a dark side/”

The dude yelling “Help Me!” at the end just makes this track even scarier. ****

3. Cemantics – The horns are sick on this song. The hook is again composed of samples. I love that line in the second verse about the meaning of man. He talks about a lot of things in the lyrics and he really kills it towards the end of the third verse. ****

4. Showtime at the Gallows – With such a dope title, the Latin beat caught me off guard. It’s a good beat, and I would have never imagined Canibus spitting on something like this. A really hot line is when he says “How long can one dis song possible last?”. The Parrish Smith sample on the hook goes with the beat, but what he says is hella gay. ***

5. Indisible – Another Latin-flavored beat, but this one is better than SATG. The hook is a guy singing in a chipmunk voice, but it still sounds good. This is a very braggadocios track, but it’s not just said in typical “I’m better than you” fashion. The third verse is sick. The stand out line is when he says:

“Nobody gives you what they didn’t already take/ You have to pick a lock just to open a gate/”

I thought there might have been a hidden track when the beat changes at the end because it was rumored that their was one, but it wasn’t :(. ****

6. Spatibus – This was the first single and the beat has a very Middle eastern feel to it. The first verse is mostly battle, the second is the Mic Club style, but the third verse is probably the best. “Explain what is poetry and what is rap/ I demonstrate how to effectively bridge the gap”. Hot shit. The Rakim sample goes well with this song. ***

7. Levitibus – The beat has somewhat of an Italian feel to it with the female opera singer and the accordions. The Vinnie Paz sample on the hook gets stuck in my head all the time. Bis talks in retrospect about a lot of things in his career, as is evident in the lines:

“They look at me like "poor bastard"
Why can't you manipulate billboard with all your metaphor magic?
No matter how I hard i practice
Every microphone I saw I grabbed it
Obviously that's the wrong tactic
I went through a long period of mourning and sadness when I wrote that Stan shit
But if you wanna hear some hardcore Canibus just say so
Then I come out the eggroll with 7 dead scrolls
If you could find a better flow
Then I can find a dinosaur on the Galapagos archipelago
Hey, you shouldn't fall for the naivety Lyrically I'm the illest when my beats is ok
Food for thought, nutrition for the whole brain
Keep your neurotransmitters warm on a cold day
I'm ahead of my time, or so they say
I guess that's why I already feel old and grey
Ok, that's enough knowledge for today, I'm killing them
You better not forget it cause this is Levitibus” ****

8. Poet Laureate II – Holy shit. Everything about this track is amazing. All 3 beats, the lyrics, it just blends perfectly. The first verse is almost haunting, then when the beat changes it has a really laid back feel to it. What more can I say? Get this track if you haven’t heard it yet. *****

9. No Return – The reggae beat again caught me off guard, but it’s still very good. The tune of the hook is really catchy too. The 3 verses are 3 different stories and they all end in Bis dying. He never gets much credit for his storytelling abilities, which is odd because these 3 are easy to follow and very well put together. ****1/2

10. M-Sea-Cresy – Another beat with a Latin-feel to it, but it doesn’t get tired as some have said. Some of the lyrics are really eye-opening and deep. I still don’t get what he means when he says “This is level one/ after this, my message is done/”. Perhaps a deal with a major label? Or perhaps his last rap album? No one gives a fuck about BlakMilc. ***1/2

Overall, this is probably my favorite Canibus album. The lyrics and beats and awesome and he showcases a lot of styles. He also stepped his multi-syllable rhymes a lot. ****/5

[QuietStorm]

The bells in Genabis are sampled from Candyman.

Cemantics gives me a headache. The beat and Bis' flow just hurt my ears:(.

[spanish announce table]

The beat is awesome IMO. I love the trumpets and stuff. It sort of remnds me of Cenior Studies, but better (beat wise)

[Simon]

I had a look at Rip The Jacker today (just out of curiosity, don't think I'm about to buy that shitty CD :p) and it seems the tracklisting is different over here, Poet Laureate II is the last track and it has 11 tracks instead of 10, don't know which one is extra though.

[QuietStorm]

Nah, he just didn't review the tracks in order. And if you think that album is shitty then you need your head checked. At least love it for the amazing beats.

[Simon]

The beats are decent enough. I like Spartibus and Genibus, and can somewhat appreciate that he's got skills, but his methods and voice do my head in.

[spanish announce table]

Genesis - The first chapter of the Old Testament
Exodus - The second chapter of the Old Testament
Leviticus - The third chapter of the Old Testament

Why did he leave out the second chapter? http://www.rajahwwf.com/forum/images/smilies/scratchchin.gif
And how is Canibus's voice doing your head when you're an Eminem fan? Now thats irritating

[Simon]

'Subjective'.

[Ronald McDonald]

I guess I need my head checked cause that album (from what I heard) is awful. Give me 1 decnt part and I'll dl and readjust my views.

[spanish announce table]

"No Return". Three very different stories that all end up in untimely death. Easy to follow, lots of detail given, and a nice reggae beat to go with it. The hook is also somewhat catchy. Even some non-Canibus fans I know like this song

[QuietStorm]

Got the Jedi Mind Tricks Advance of Visions of Gandhi. Has all the songs but has a robot voice over interrupting the verses. Stoupe has done it again. Another classic.

Bis drops 2000 BC type lyrics on Tibetan Black Magicians and Rise of the Machines with Ras Kass is amazing. Basically the whole album is though. There is not one song I am not feeling. I kinda miss Jus Allah though. I loved his dark verses on Violent By Design. He made a very bad career move.

Vinnie Paz is the best white MC there is. Plain and simple.

[strange famous]

Vinnie Paz is the best white MC there is. Plain and simple.

i guess you've never heard of sage francis.

sin six

sin six: going to see sage live...tonight!!!

[QuietStorm]

Whatever. I'm not here to argue. I like Sage. But I can't bump him in my car like I can JMT. So therefore Vinnie P sounds better to me. It's all a matter of perspective and opinion.

I was basically just thinking of all those Eminem butt lovers with my statement.

[Hack]

"Smoke and Mirrors" is great for the car.

[50 Cent]

I smeel Backpackers

[QuietStorm]

I smell a mainstream bitch.

[50 Cent]

I smell a mainstream bitch.

Naw you got me wrong there buddy, I love real hiphop, but im not down with the nerd shit like you are. Now shut the fuck up and get off my dick.

[Hack]

Hey Strange Famous, how was Strange Famous?

[strange famous]

went to see sage last night and the show was short but awesome. best live performer in hip hop hands down.

...but he played some songs from the upcoming non-prophets(sage and joe beats) cd and they were HOT! QS, these were definitely bump in your car material as the new album will be more 'rappy' than personal journals. october can't come soon enough.

sin six

sin six: HOPE

[QuietStorm]

Naw you got me wrong there buddy, I love real hiphop, but im not down with the nerd shit like you are. Now shut the fuck up and get off my dick.

Explain to me how JMT is "nerd shit". I want to hear this.

:chin:


And that sounds great SF. I'll be picking that up for sure.

Listening to Come Come Now Remix right now.

[spanish announce table]

Rumor is Chingy dissed 50. Will this crap ever end?

[Kris P. Lettus]

Rumor is Chingy dissed 50. Will this crap ever end?

I saw Chingy a couple of weeks ago at a show.. He was exactly what I expected.. Shit...

[QuietStorm]

Visions of Gandhi tracklisting...


Intro
Tibetan Black Magicians (feat. Canibus)
Blood In Blood Out
The Rage of Angels (feat. Crypt The Warchild of Outerspace)
Demonwomb Interlude
Animal Rap (feat. Kool G. Rap)
Nada Cambia
A Storm of Swords (feat. Planetary of Outerspace)
Boondock Saints Interlude
The Wolf (feat. Ill Bill & Sabac of Non Phixion)
Walk With Me (feat. Percee-P)
Rise of the Machines (feat. Ras Kass)
Pity of War Interlude
Kublai Khan (feat. Tragedy Khadafi & Goretex of Non Phixion)
What's Really Good (feat. Rocky Raez)
The Heart of Darkness Interlude
Raw Is War 2003

[Fro]

This is kinda random but does anyone have the 4th A Tribe Called Quest album "Beats, Rhymes and Life?" I am a huge Tribe fan and love their first 3 albums but have not heard the 4th (or 5th for that matter, but I hear its sub-par). Anyway, does anyone have it and is it worth picking up?

[strange famous]

This is kinda random but does anyone have the 4th A Tribe Called Quest album "Beats, Rhymes and Life?" I am a huge Tribe fan and love their first 3 albums but have not heard the 4th (or 5th for that matter, but I hear its sub-par). Anyway, does anyone have it and is it worth picking up?

i have it and thought it was not that good. i'd stick to their older material.

sin six

sin six: drizz-unk as fizz-uck

[spanish announce table]

:yes: Meth said on SOHH that Joe Budden is average and Def Jam expected too much out of him. I agree.

[Suno]

Meth acts like his fucking shit dont stink, Buddens album was good, and I think he's above average, better than a big clutch of the mainstream MC's who would be likely to out sell him, meth can start judging these cats when he drops an album that isnt mediocre, not including tical obviously, different era 's in hip-hop.

whats so fucking bad about budden, his album shows me that hes got skills and the ability to make good songs and a solid album.

[Fro]

I like Budden. His rhymes aren't outstanding, but he's not a dude I would consider undeserving of his success. And, as I mentioned earlier, I love his verse on the Pump It Up Remix. You gotta admit he had a doper verse than Jigga on that track.

[Kris P. Lettus]

This is kinda random but does anyone have the 4th A Tribe Called Quest album "Beats, Rhymes and Life?" I am a huge Tribe fan and love their first 3 albums but have not heard the 4th (or 5th for that matter, but I hear its sub-par). Anyway, does anyone have it and is it worth picking up?

I have it on tape somewhere..

:cool:

Not their best but good enough to get, if you caught it on sale or summat...

[jesus sucks]

As I said at the time of release. Buddens fucking sucks, I cant believe i bought that album, i must have been one of the 6 that did! Binned it ages ago.

[QuietStorm]

Budden blows.

[spanish announce table]

Tical 2000 wasn't bad. I thought it was a pretty good album and way too much slack. "Spazzola" is the shit

[Kris P. Lettus]

Tical 2000 wasn't bad. I thought it was a pretty good album and way too much slack. "Spazzola" is the shit

I agree..

Had it been trimmed down to a lean 16-18 track it would have been classic.. It didn't have enough to carry 28 tracks...

:(

[Seanny One Ball]

I was just over in Canada on holiday, came back on Friday during the big powercut (stuck in the airport for 7 hours, we luckily got to fly on a fresh plane that we got from Montreal though I was supposed to fly from Toronto originally.)
Anyway, while over there I bought 8 albums and 2 arrived from Amazon.co.uk while I was away.

I bought:

Tical - Method Man
Wu Mix - The Rza & Big Cap (I thought this was a Rza album with him rapping, but I was mistaken though it is actually not bad.)
ATLiens - Outkast (Probably the most surprisingly good album I've ever bought. I didn't realise Outkast were as fucking trippy as they were on this album, I'm definately listening to this when I'm stoned more often.)
And Then There Was X - DMX (I'm a big DMX fan :) )
The Blueprint - Jay Z (Best album out of the whole lot, every song is tight as fuck. Takeover is simply the best diss track out of the whole Nas/Jay thing, and I've heard Ether, I own Stillmatic - Jay rips it up and imo he's the better MC.)
Joe Budden - Joe Budden (I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, I've been putting it off in favour of the other albums because it seems like this one is going to be either great or terrible...)
He's Keith Murray - Keith Murray (Been meaning to buy a Keith Murray album, this one is pretty good from my first impressions.)
Greatest Hits The Millenium Collection - Eric B and Rakim (I always wanted Paid In Full but it wasn't available at the time, Follow The Leader was but I decided to take the safest option and buy the guaranteed quality album. I've listened to Paid In Full the 7 minute remix a thousand times and I think the only conclusion that I can come to is that it's a masterpiece all over - I fucking love the beat more than any other right now and Rakim may not be rapping all the way through it but he's never bad when he does rap.)

I ordered:

Rip The Jacker - Canibus (First impressions were that it was a very strong album lyrically, much like any one of Canibus' previous albums, however the beats aren't as good as in MicClub. I've listened to it more and more over the last 2 days and I've decided that since it's Canibus then his beats have always been secondary anyway and as a result his lyrics shine through - there isn't a bad track on the album either. Poet Laureat II is fantastic also, 100 bars will always be the original but I like this new song very much.)
Boy in Da Corner - Dizzee Rascal (This lad is quality, Fix Up Look Sharp is classic and this album is stuck in the CD player until I get sick of any track on the album - which is unlikely. Great album, shades of garage even if he does deny that he's a garage artist, though I have no problem admitting I like it.)

I'm going to go against the grain here and say that Tical is probably the most disappointing album I bought, I like Method Man, but he's not as hot on this album as I expected. The Best song is probably Bring The Pain, the remix is great too however the rest of the album is yet to draw me in.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

I've had Blackalicious' 'Blazing Arrow' and DJ Shadow's 'Endtroducing' come over the past few days, only had chance to listen to them once each, but potential for them to really grow on me is there...

:yes:

[jesus sucks]

Got The Neptune's present... Clones today. Sounds pretty great after the first listen. Got a spacey sounding theme. I luv it. Apart from a couple of shitty heavy metal songs in the middle. damn rock music.

That's kelis f Nas Popular Thug and Pharells Frontin are total quality.

[Suno]

frontin is crap

[spanish announce table]

ATLiens - Outkast (Probably the most surprisingly good album I've ever bought. I didn't realise Outkast were as fucking trippy as they were on this album, I'm definately listening to this when I'm stoned more often.)


:yes: Thats my favorite album of all time. My favorite track Babylon

[Suno]

ATLiens is one of the greatest produced albums ever imo.

[Fro]

I can't wait to cop that new Neptunes album. That seems like the kind of album that I'll be bumpin in my car for a while. They got a lot of dope rappers on that.

And I liked Tical a lot. The beats weren't RZA's best, but they still had that grimy Wu-Tang sound. I really thought Meth ripped it on the mic, too. He had such a great flow back then.

[spanish announce table]

Dope rappers on Clones? Nelly, Roscoe Coldchain and Famlay? :scared:

[jesus sucks]

Tical is easily the worst, or least good of the 5 solo's after 36 and before Forever. Still a great album though.

Famlay's song on Clones is pretty good, the video is on the bonus DVD aswell.

[QuietStorm]

Dope rappers on Clones? Nelly, Roscoe Coldchain and Famlay? :scared:
:chin: :nono: I think I'll burn that and give it to a girl as a birthday present.

[spanish announce table]

Any potential release dates for Ghostface and Method Man?

[Fro]

Tical 0: The Prequel is coming out in October hopefully and last I heard the Ghostface album won't come out til early 2004.

[TrishIsGod]

frontin is crap
Word. And Pharrell's voice is crap. It makes me cringe. :no:

[Fro]

I like Frontin' a lot actually. I think Pharell goes all out with that old R&B flavor. I can see how he could sound goofy, but I like the way he comes with some classy singing sh*t...and I like his voice.

[Seanny One Ball]

He has a good singing voic, if you like Rn B you'll like the song, but I don't think he could ever be considered a rap artist.

[Fro]

Yeah, probably because barely ever raps.

[spanish announce table]

And there is also an article floating around somewhere where this dude accuses Pharell of jacking his beats

[Suno]

He has a good singing voic, if you like Rn B you'll like the song, but I don't think he could ever be considered a rap artist.

I like RnB, infact, Id consider myself quite a big fan, but pharrel dosnt have a good singing voice you fucking idiot, listen to some d'angelo then tell me he's good at fucking singing, it sounds like hes just struggling to hit the notes in that stupid high pitched whine, and they've probably fucked around with his vocals in the studios just to get it to sound that good, he's ass.

And SAT, I heard about that story, funny if its true, I aint buynig it though.

[Fro]

What does everyone thing is Outkast's best album? I have not really gotten into them too much (downloaded about 30 of their songs, but don't have any albums) and want to buy their best work. From what I've heard so far, ATLiens is the way to go. Although I have a friend who is in love with Aquemini. I think there's no doubt all 4 of their albums have abeen great, so what do you think is their best?

[strange famous]

What does everyone thing is Outkast's best album? I have not really gotten into them too much (downloaded about 30 of their songs, but don't have any albums) and want to buy their best work. From what I've heard so far, ATLiens is the way to go. Although I have a friend who is in love with Aquemini. I think there's no doubt all 4 of their albums have abeen great, so what do you think is their best?

to me, aquemini is the best, but southernplayalisticcadillacmusik, and ATLiens are very good too. i could never get into stankonia even though it had some great songs on it, the vibe on it as a whole didn't do it for me.

sin six

sin six: so fresh and so clean

[Seanny One Ball]

I like RnB, infact, Id consider myself quite a big fan, but pharrel dosnt have a good singing voice you fucking idiot, listen to some d'angelo then tell me he's good at fucking singing, it sounds like hes just struggling to hit the notes in that stupid high pitched whine, and they've probably fucked around with his vocals in the studios just to get it to sound that good, he's ass.



You must be tone deaf or something, I think most people would agree that Pharrell has a good voice, it's not a great voice - I didn't say that, but it is a good singing voice. Especially because he's making R'n B music his voice suits it well, it's calming :yes:

You're obviously the idiot, persecuting people because they enjoy different opinions to yours. I'd happily go listen to some D'Angelo music and then tell you that Pharrell is good at singing, but guess what - I don't really like D'Angelo :shocked:

[50 Cent]

You must be tone deaf or something, I think most people would agree that Pharrell has a good voice, it's not a great voice - I didn't say that, but it is a good singing voice. Especially because he's making R'n B music his voice suits it well, it's calming :yes:

You're obviously the idiot, persecuting people because they enjoy different opinions to yours. I'd happily go listen to some D'Angelo music and then tell you that Pharrell is good at singing, but guess what - I don't really like D'Angelo :shocked:

No most people don't like his god awful voice. High pitched, cant hit note if my life depended on it voice. Pharrell is garbage, the Neptunes recycle old beats over and over again, there garbage most of the time. That Frontin joint is terrible.

D'Angelo=Bitches panties come off
Pharrell=Panties run away

DMX Grand Champ in stores Spet 16th go and cop that one folks.

September looks to be a good month hopefully DMX the dog is back, Outkast(well see Dre is one weird muhfucka), MOP.

This has by far been one of the worst years of rap music. 2001 was hot, it was the last good year for rap, 2002 was a failure and so far 2003 has been pathetic, only a few good releases.

[QuietStorm]

I think you have been writing this year off far too soon for far too long 50 Cent. It is typical in basically every year in hip hop that most of the biggest releases are saved for towards the end of the year. 2003 isn't any different.


Oh...and Pharrell is garbage. I bet his partner Chad sings better than he does. BTW, anyone ever seen pics of Chad? I swear I have never seen that dudes face.

[spanish announce table]

The worst Outkast album IMO is Stankonia, and that album is masterful

[TheChillinVillan]

Anyone heard that new Alicia Keys with Nas and Rakim. The beat is done by Premier, shit is just sick! It's called Streets of N.Y.

[Fro]

Yeah, I just downloaded it. Definetly dope.

[bobster]

Pharrell Williams is the f'n man.

[50 Cent]

I think you have been writing this year off far too soon for far too long 50 Cent. It is typical in basically every year in hip hop that most of the biggest releases are saved for towards the end of the year. 2003 isn't any different.


Oh...and Pharrell is garbage. I bet his partner Chad sings better than he does. BTW, anyone ever seen pics of Chad? I swear I have never seen that dudes face.

Hes in some videos hes a chinaman.

Hopefully it will rebound this year, but by the looks of it nothing spectacular is coming out at the end of the year and no new Nas album :grumpy:

Grand Champ
Black Album

Only thing to look forward too. For now, that new Outkast shit sounds horrible.

[spanish announce table]

Chad is Filipino, not Chinese. He said in an interview that he plays most of the instruments and Pharell just drums and sings.

Black Album is getting way too overhyped. I dont even think it will be all that great, but I could be wrong. Maybe I'm just bitter over the crap that was BP2.

I think DMX will try to take it back on Grand Champ. I like the new single, and seeing him with Swizz reminds me of when Double R was the greatest thing going.

New Outkast will own. Nothing more to say. If the rumored 8-minute Andre track is on it, this could possibly be my new favorite album. I like every song I've heard from it so far.

[Seanny One Ball]

Isn't the new Outkast album a double disc set with Andre and Big Boi each getting their own CD?
I heard that from a friend, it sounds sweet.

I'm going to buy Stankonia soon :yes:

[QuietStorm]

Being a Michiganian I am definitely most anticipating the new Royce as far as the rest of this year goes.


And Crooked I...aaaanytime now buddy. They are killing his hype by holding him back this long. From the start of the year until about June he was probably the most talked about rap artist as far as anticipation goes. Then in July and now in August people slowly are forgetting about him. I heard from a good source back in May that it would be out in August. Now August is almost by with nothing. I am doubting it will drop this year if even ever. Hopefully Kurupt knows what he is doing while Suge is locked up. Maybe with all the material recorded it will be the first ever...triple album!!! Hehehe.

[Suno]

Yeah, the crooked I buzz is all but dead.

Hopefully the new royce album will own, actually im pretty confident it will, royce is the man.

[Fro]

Black Album is getting way too overhyped. I dont even think it will be all that great, but I could be wrong. Maybe I'm just bitter over the crap that was BP2.

I am anticipating The Black Album to be Jay-Z's best work yet. Maybe I'm expecting too much, but The Blueprint simply changed my views of Jigga. It made me realize how capable this guy is of making awesome music. And all hype aside, I read he is working with The Roots on the whole album. Not like they are going to be on the songs or even producing, but they are helping him pick out his beats and decide who he puts on as guest rappers. Part of me thinks I am in for a dissapointment, but Jay's been hyping this sh*t up more than he ever has before. And all of his new songs have been dope. The S. Carter Collection was dope, his verse on the Beyonce song was dope, and his verses on that Bad Boys 2 song were dope. And you know he's gotta be saving his best shit for The Black Album. To me, he seems hungry right now. He seems like he wants to put out his own Illmatic. I think he is gonna live up to the hype. Or at least I hope so.

[spanish announce table]

He might drop some classic stuff, but some of the producers he's working with are Swizz Beatz, Neptunes and Timbaland, which mostly means club/commercial tracks. I know these 3 producers can do other styles, but Timbaland made only club tracks on BP2, as did the Neptunes (except for Ballad For A Fallen Soldier)

[Suno]

dont forget craptastic producer Eminem with his album filler music.

[spanish announce table]

:no: Eminem? He hasn't impressed me at all with his production. The best beat he's done IMO is "Dont Push Me". The rest have been really bland, like "The Cross".

[QuietStorm]

I liked his beat on "8 Mile" or whatever track 3 was called on that soundtrack.

[strange famous]

non-prophets "HOPE" comes out october 7th.

you've all been warned.

sin six

sin six: expect more updates as they become available

[C-Matic]

Does anyone actually review albums in this thread?

Just to keep myself from looking hypocritcal...


My favorite Album

Talib Kweli & HiTek:Reflection Eternal "Train of Thought"

1. Experience Dedication- Maybe just a coincidence, but Dave Chappelle happens to be my favorite comedian as well. This tricked many people I know into thinking this was actually Nelson Mandela, and its one of the only Intro's that I still listen to every time. (10/10 as far as intros go)

2. Move Somethin'- My favorite song after I heard it. Of course during the listening of this album, my favorite song changed more in an hour than ever in my life. Gotta love the horns...(9/10)

3. Some Kind of Wonderful- Extremely tight yet redundant beat with high velocity lyrics and a blazing chorus (7/10)

4. The Blast- A bit of a cooldown from the previous two tracks, and Hi-Tek drops a nice verse (7/10)

5. This Means You- Mos Def comes in and gives another solid boost (8/10)

6. Too Late- First song I wasn't feeling too much on my first listen, was kind of a downer. It was self-absorbed in a "hip-hop is dying except for me" kind of way. (5/10)

7.Memories Live- Kickback, great song, although the fire of the first two songs seems like a distant memory at this point (6/10)

8.Africa Dream- Great song, really like an interlude (this is how interludes should be, even if thats not how it was intended) (9/10 as in interlude)

9. Down for the Count- Thumping beat, great cameos by Rah Digga and Xzibit, though I would have appreciated the solo version of this song better (8/10)

10. Name of the Game- I love the lyrics on this, I often say them to myself whenever I need to pump myself up for something (9/10)

11. Ghetto Afterlife- Decent song, but I'd expect more of an impact from Kool G Rap (7/10)

12. On My Way- Another good interlude type track which leads into the next song very well... (7/10 as an interlude)

13. Love Language- One of the best laid back songs on the album, and the chorus is in french (for all the young pimps out there) (8/10)

14. Love Speakeasy- Great Jazz track , no rap, with the record popping sound for your enjoyment (9/10 as an interlude)

15. Soul Rebels- De La Soul takes over on this song, and despite the fact that I'm a Kweli fan, thats actually a good thing... my only qualm on this song is that Maseo sounds a bit like Ja Rule :wtf: (9/10)

16. Eternalists- One of my favorite tracks on the album, rolls very well from the previous track (9/10)

17. Big Del from Da Natti- Sounded like an afterthought, wasn't feeling it too much, no Kweli (4/10)

18. Touch You- Cameo by Dave Chappelle again, this time as Rick James (sounds just like him) Over a track that sounds like something Rick James would actually do if he could (8/10)

19. Good Mourning- Somber, very touching, and what I thought at the time was a great last song for one of my favorite albums (9/10)

20. Expansion Outro- Fanfare to close out album, nothing special...

Overall: (8/10) I was very impressed and it took its place for me as one of the best albums I have ever heard. I quickly took the CD out and listened to the other album I bought that day. Slum Village "Trinity: Past, Present, and Future" (unrelated story, I'd give that album a 7/10) It wasn't until the second time I listened to the album that I discovered this song...

20b. For Women- This is the song that I honestly cannot imagine a person not liking... I'm sure its possible, but I honestly consider this to be the perfect song. I consider this to be the hidden masterpiece that has to be experienced to be understood. Four verses no hook, but an excellent beat for a song like this. The whole thing does exactly what I'm sure they intended, it causes reflection. Many will argue other songs, but I don't know if I'll ever hear a song as deep, meaningful and entertaining as "For Women" (10/10)

Overall: (10/10) That last piece makes me love this album, in some ways I believe the whole album is the build up to get you ready for For Women. When I listen to it by itself, it doesn't have the same effect. But when I listen to the album as a whole, "For Women strikes me as the perfect ending to a beautiful masterpiece...

[Simon]

You must be tone deaf or something, I think most people would agree that Pharrell has a good voice, it's not a great voice - I didn't say that, but it is a good singing voice. Especially because he's making R'n B music his voice suits it well, it's calming :yes:
Pharell's not a good singer, like Suno said his voice is forced, even after all the time they spend in the studio he still can't hit some of the notes properly...he's trying for a falsetto voice, but he's simply not able to do it.

I don't particularly like D'Angelo either, but he's far, far, far, far, faaaaaar better at singing.

[Webbicho]

Only thing to look forward too. For now, that new Outkast shit sounds horrible.

He said early this year there would be a lost tapes 2 type thing, so - :cool:

[spanish announce table]

"The Blast" is one of my favorite songs ever, and "Ghetto Afterlife" has 2 of my favorite MC's ever. Reflection Eternal really was a good album.

Sound Bombing 4 is rumored to have 8 new Mos Def tracks :yes:

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Blackalicious - Blazing Arrow

:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

[Simon]

Blackalicious is at Reading...if there were any other rap acts worth seeing other than Blak Twang and Jay Z, I'd shell £80 for the privilege :D

[50 Cent]

The much anticiapted review of The Blueprint and The Blueprint 2 The Gift and The Curse will be here soon by the only me.

Plus November 29 or December 1 the review for Blueprint 3 The Black Album will be here.

[spanish announce table]

The Black Album is BP3? Why? I thought there weren't going to be any more Blue Prints.

VMA's were ass last night. It felt like Eminem and 50 were on screen for the whole time

[strange famous]

VMA's were ass last night. It felt like Eminem and 50 were on screen for the whole time

that's cause they were on screen the whole time.

sin six

sin six: vma's were ass

[strange famous]

i don't know if there'll be anymore blueprints, but the 'black album' is coming and from the ad i've seen, these are the producers on it. i think everyone is doing one song.

Neptunes
Just Blaze
Dr. Dre
Premier
Rick Rubin
Swizz Beats
Kanye West
Track Masters
Eminem
DJ Quik
Ski
Timbaland

sin six

sin six: doing my part to help jay z fans

[Suno]

lol, the albums gonna suck, Neptunes? Swizz Beats? Eminem? Bah!

[spanish announce table]

I'm sick of Wack Masters and their stupid Spanish guitar in every song. Why couldnt Jay hook up with guys like RZA or even Scarface ("In Between Us" was an awesome beat)

[QuietStorm]

Mike Dean produced that song for Scarface. Very underrated producer. Funny ass dude too.

[50 Cent]

No I just named the album Blueprint 3 because thats what its gonna be.

Black Album there goes the name for my debut album, guess im gonna go with The Blue Album

[spanish announce table]

Mike Dean produced that song for Scarface. Very underrated producer. Funny ass dude too

IN BETWEEN US feat. Nas
(B. Jordan, M. Dean, M. Sandlofer, N. Jones)
(ASCAP/BMI)
Produced by Scarface and by Mike Dean for Dean's List Productions

Ok, Jay should work with Face and Dean

[50 Cent]

The much anticipated review for Stillmatic and Gods Son will be hitting the boards soon also be on the look out for that.

[QuietStorm]

Awwww yeah...Rapreviews showing some love for Canibus...


Canibus is a riddle within an enigma shrouded by mystery; a confusing conumdrum of conflicting creativity forces contained within his cranium. The dichotomy of his rap is a truly scattered diaspora - greatness left behind on one album, whackness living within another. On underrated albums like "2000 B.C." and "Mic Club" the rapper proves himself to be more than a one-trick punchline pony with big words. On subpar albums like "Can-I-Bus" and "C True Hollywood Stories" he digs deeper into the abyss than a Pennsylvania coal miner. No one understands the reasons why, least of all Canibus himself. Still 'Bis presses on, and each time we hope for the dope and not a plate of dog food.

On "Rip the Jacker," Canibus may have finally found a producer who is capable of bringing out his best consistantly. If the long-winded name "Stoupe the Enemy of Mankind" doesn't ring a bell, then you probably aren't familiar with his work for the seminal underground group Jedi Mind Tricks. Nevertheless on a short list of indie rap greats, he ranks with Chops, Celph Titled, Alchemist and Madlib as among the best of the best in beats. Suffice it to say reading the words "All tracks produced by Stoupe" in the liner notes made this reviewer smile like a kid in a candy store. On "Rip the Jacker" Stoupe lives up to his reputation in spades. The martial arts sounds of "Spartibus" are perfect for 'Bis and his kung-fu rap style; the Rakim samples of the hook are just icing on the cake. "Indisible" switches up into a mariachi meets Kanye West dance of death so brutal it's beautiful. "Psych Evaluation" is appropriately dark and moody, putting the listener under the same microscope 'Bis has often found his career in front of - and again the appropriate chorus snippets could give DJ Premier a run for the money. It's also worth a break from discussing the beats at this point to see the power of his prose in this song:

"C-A-N dash, I dash, B-U-S
gets the last laugh before the critical mass
In half the speed of a ball flash, fire engulf that ass
into a molehill of charcoal ash
Only to be blown away by a cold draft
Whack MC's got no chance, it's so sad
They ask Canibus - will you ever run out of things to say?
How much breath can a man breathe in a day?
Needless to say, I think it's kind of deep in a way
People be like - 'Bis is too ill, keep him away!
It's a good thing I got patience
I been waiting here longer than Dr. Levernson's time equations"

But if you think 'Bis is only here to bust super-science or challenge inferior MC's, he lives up to the title and challenges himself:

"I used to be an undisciplined piece of fecal matter
An underdog rapper, but I closed that chapter
I deal with my adaptive difficulty faster
And question my projective technique as a rapper
I've lost interest in the battle glory and glamour
But I can't control Rip the Jacker when he gets amped up"

This is the form Canibus fans have come to expect when all the stars align and a perfect moment of his time is captured on wax, and this album is packed with such crystalized slices of powerful rap ability. Therefore a gimmick like having a song called "Genabis" would seem silly coming from any other MC really do come across as a God of the microphone giving his word to the masses. That's why on the former, which is also the lead single, Stoupe's beat sounds appropriately awe-inspiring. It's a mixture of bells, chanting choirs, and pounding drums appropriate enough to be the backdrop of a Final Fantasy boss battle. The only thing being attacked here though are your ears with lyrical skills:

"Yo, in the beginnin I discovered wordplay
I experimented with some syllables from the first to the third day
On the fourth I searched for the words to say
How to compress complex verbiage in the least amount of space
I was perfect at it and mastered the tactic
On the fifth day I decided I would combine it with mathematics
On the sixth day I became a fanatic, and I couldn't kick the habit
I would just look in the mirror and practice
On the seventh cycle, I had to take the day off
I was exhausted, I guessed my work will never pay off
But if it happened it to him, it could happen to me
And if it happened to me, it was destined to be"

Although it's instructive to single out individual songs and lyrics and break down their complex structure into the simple parts that make them dope, it's ultimately redundant to examine "Rip the Jacker" song by song. In truth, it's not as if any of the songs AREN'T dope. So effective is 'Bis over Stoupe's beats that it makes his past work better retroactively; making his claims on "Levitibus" that "even my worst album was sublime, if I don't slow down I distort the timeline" sound entirely credible. As a rap fan you will enjoy every minute of this far too short forty-five minute album, from the "Intro" to the finale "Poet Laureate II" at the finale. Everybody will have individual favorites of course - some may enjoy the floating flute and lackadaisical pace of "No Return" while others may be more attuned to the heavy concrete sounds of "Cemantics." Either way "Rip the Jacker" may be the first album of perfection Canibus has seen in his half decade career, and it showcases to an unparalleled degree why early on he was compared to greats like Rakim. If he continues to work with Stoupe and release albums like this, there's no limits to where 'Bis can take rap, or where hip-hop can ultimately take him.

Music Vibes: 10 of 10 Lyric Vibes: 10 of 10 TOTAL Vibes: 10 of 10

[Suno]

Yeah I read that, now i might have to buy it.

[Simon]

Remember when they said this?


Canibus brags about his superiority over his dad's other stupid sperm. Wow, you were a bad muthafucka as sperm, man, too bad you still weigh about the same.

Now THAT was a review.

Me = DJ Fatboy's biggest fan :D

[spanish announce table]

:lol: The Can-I-Bus review was funny. I thought Rip The Jacker would have only got a 7.5 at best from RR, but I was surprised to see it get a 10. Take that DJ Fat Ass.

[Simon]

Anyone know a good site for finding out the producers of certain songs, and the samples used in songs?

In particular, I want to know where I recognise the classical-sounding tune on Monica's 'So Gone' and 213's 'I'm Fly'...I'm sure I know it as a classical song, but I can't think what.

Cheers :yes:

[spanish announce table]

Did you guys hear the Timbaland retirement rumor? Is there any truth to it?

[Simon]

We can only hope.

[spanish announce table]

Violator - V2.0 Review

1. Intro - Shameless plugs for people nobody cares about (No rating)

2. What It Is - Everyone's heard this song. Catchy hook, simple beat and Busta brings the energy. My complaint is that Busta talks too much about asses (***)

3. Grimey - Why do the Neptunes waste good beats for Nore? Not a memorable lyric on here, but that can easily be tuned out for the beat (***)

4. Put Your Hands Up - Ugh. LL Cool J spits boring women/car/ice rhymes, though the flow isn't bad. The hook is atrocious with that chipunk, high-pitched Swizz Beatz. (**)

5. Livin In Da City - This beat has way too much going on. It just sounds like a bunch of random computer sounds thrown together and having no-names Da Franchise rapping doesn't help. Butch Cassidy is nice on the chorus though (* 1/2)

6. Come Thru - Styles P and Nore come hard on this song. The bass pounds and the off-key keyboards sound good. The hook is somewhat out of place, but I like it. Not that great lyrically, but just something to get you amped up (*** 1/2)

7. We Are - Memphis Bleek and too-wack-to-be-on-State-Property Geda K spit over a mediocre Just Blaze beat. It gets worst as Funk Flex gives his lame shout outs at the end. I've heard him say the same names so many times I probably have them memorized. (**)

8. Sexual Chocolate- CeeLo raps/sings in what is just a weird, but catchy song. Closet Freak reminds me of this song (** 1/2)

9. Fiend - Jojo Pellegrino spits on this Rakim remake. It's not a bad song, but the original is so much better. Having the Rakim voice samples in the back is a nice touch. (***)

10. Ex - Horrible, just fucking horrible. Missy and Ja Rule sing with Tweet about doing extasy over some corny Irv Gotti beat. It only gets a point because Tweet sounds like the greatest singer alive in-between verses from these idiots (*)

11. You Feel Me/Options - This is actually 2 songs merged into one track for no reason. Remi Martin, Fat Joe and Havoc rap on a pretty good Hav beat and surprisingly Joe has the best verse. The second song is Capone and Noyd who trade verses on an ok beat. The horns and violins sound nice, but the beat is bland without them. (****)

12. Livin the Life - Jadakiss talks about guns and coke again, but his flow is good on this one. Prodigy sounds so unmotivated and bored, but Butch Cassidy makes up for it on the hook. The Scott Storch beat is good too. (*** 1/2)

13. Die 3 - Who is The Outfit? The slow violin beat isn't bad, but these guys are boring (**)

14. Grind Season - Pellegrino comes back on this track and does a good job with Kurupt, who also had a good verse. The beat and chorus aren't particulary great, but catchy. (***)

15. Hoppin In My Car - Who the hell is Hollyhood? I'm glad I haven't heard another song from her lame ass. Swearing in R&B songs seems out of place to me and it's just a cheap way to get attention (*)

16. Next Generation - Let's see who will supposedly run rap in the future: Fabolous (yeah right), Jojo Pellegrino (if he ever comes out, he could be decent), Remi Martin (she has potential), Red Cafe (some lame dude from Da Franchise), Fortune (who?) and Caddillac Tah ( :lol: ) Kay Slay slobbers on the mic telling the old school to "Get the fuck off". The horns on the beat are pretty good, but nobody really brings the lyrics here except Fabolous, which is odd considering I dont like him (** 1/2. Had potential to be a good song)

17. Cant Get Enough - Spliff Starr and Rah Digga spit lame sex raps over an-already-used Busta Rhymes beat. The wack R&B chick on the hook is pretty crappy too (* 1/2)

The first album was better with appearances from guys like Pun and Beatnuts, but Beatnuts, Mysonne and 8Ball are nowhere to be found on this album, which is strange considering Mysonne had about 5 tracks on volume one.

O V E R A L L . . . . . 2.5 / 5

[Simon]

I have no idea how new this track is, as I have vague memories of him releasing a track called 911 before, but I think it's new, as I've never heard of it before...but EMINEM is back on form on this track produced by DJ Muggs, about the state of hip-hop right now, and it fuckin rules, Eminem rips the track and Muggs production is sick as always.

A sign of things to come? I hope so.

[Suno]

Click This (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/tmhollis/DMX-Grand_Champion.zip) For the album, its in Real Audio, but just use something to rip it to MP3.

Im feeling it, it dosnt come out for over week so you im looking out for you lot right here, no need to thank me.

[Simon]

He back to his old self yet?

[Suno]

it owns man, alot better than that aptly named great depression.

[Simon]

I downloaded it, then got drunk, then forgot, then fell asleep, then woke up again and now can't find it, I'll listen tomorrow.

[hed]

I'll just buy it when it comes out

GASP! :eek:

[Flow]

Where da hood, where da hood, where da hood at

:heart:

downloadin now

[Ronald McDonald]

Where da hood, where da hood, where da hood at





Definitely not in England.


Anyways Hot C.D.

[jesus sucks]

The two CD's by DMX i bought are the absolute lowlight of my collection...

[SideburnZ]

Whats up with him and dogs? Like half the songs I've heard by him involve dogs in some way, and every video I've seen has dogs.

And how come he constantly goes WHAT?

[Harry]

Whats up with him and dogs? Like half the songs I've heard by him involve dogs in some way, and every video I've seen has dogs.

And how come he constantly goes WHAT? He's blind and partially deaf. The dogs you see are actually guide dogs and he says what alot due to his hearing problem. I hope that clears things up for you homie.

[SideburnZ]

Aight dawg. WHAT

[NiMMERS]

Where da hood, where da hood, where da hood at


I've seen a few on some jumpers people have been wearing. Also cloaks, coats and jackets.

[Melv]

Just me, or is the link not working now?

:mad:

Edit: If someone sends me it in email: EuanMilneBCFC@aol.com or over MSN: euanmilnebcfc@hotmail.com I'll try to upload it again, and post the link for the rest of the people around here.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I downloaded it, then got drunk, then forgot, then fell asleep, then woke up again and now can't find it, I'll listen tomorrow.

Windows + F

Search for it.

[QuietStorm]

I got the new Outkast last night. Andre 3000's album is crazy good. Big Boi's sucks dick. Andre Benjamin has always been the life of Outkast in my opinion. Far outshines Big Boi with this as well.

[QuietStorm]

Ok I guess I was a little hard on Big Boi's. The more I listen to it the more it is growing. God, no one is weirder than Outkast.



But it still sucks dick compared to Andre 3000's side.

[Suno]

I heard differently, I heard that Big Boi's was fire and Andre's was some wierd trippy rock shit that will have to grow on ya, but apparently it's still black music.

[QuietStorm]

Well yeah...Big Boi's has an old-school pure hip hop vibe. Andre's is a lot of trippy jazz and he sings a lot. Appeals to me for some reason. The weirder the better with him.

[QuietStorm]

You know, the Andre grew old fast. I think this whole album is just one big letdown. Oh well, never been much of an Outkast person anyways. I have stated that before.

[Seanny One Ball]

I heard mention a while ago that Canibus was/is working on a rock project. Is this true? Who is it being done with and will it be anything like "Rip Rock" on Can-I-Bus, because I liked that song a lot :yes:

[QuietStorm]

Well, most people including me, hated the hell out of Rip Rock. But that was mainly for that gay Wyclef beat.

And yeah BlackMilc is coming next year with him and Killah Priest involved. But I don't think either of them are going to be the front man. They are just going to have a hand in the project. I have a feeling it will suck.

But the rumor is 2004 is going to bring a new album/DVD from Canibus. I have heard the Exobus Scripts and I have heard Canibus VI. Who cares though. As long as it is out it should be great.

[spanish announce table]

If QS isn't even much of an Outkast fan and said it was good, then I'll probably love this album. 11 days left!

BlakMilc is a stupid idea IMO because nobody wants to hear it. Everyone is waiting for a Horsemen album but now Ras is in jail, Bis is in the army and Kurupt is with Death Row. I dont know whats up with Priest.

I'm not too excited about the DMX album either. I thought after hearing the first 2 singles that he would take it back to "Flesh of My Flesh", but he said in an interview that Chingy and Cam'Ron are on the album :no: It's supposed to be his last album and he's working with these bums? Why not Scarface, probably X's favorite MC?

[Suno]

I've heard it all, its not bad, not great, better than the last, the track with killa kam is suprisingly one of the better tracks, and there isnt a joint with Chingy on there, theres one with Chinky, that RnB chick, but that tracks wack!

[spanish announce table]

Chinky isn't much better than Chingy, but as long as he's not on it the track must be at least listenable

[50 Cent]

Im half done getting the Kast album, Big Boi spits fire the beats are creative and all, Andre well its gonna take time.

[Fro]

How did you guys get the Outkast album already?

[50 Cent]

Its been bootlegged playa, I gotta say that Big Boi disc is awesome, I wasnt much into Kast before but Im loving this Big Boi stuff, well Andre it make take a while to grow on me.

[spanish announce table]

Andre's will own Big Boi's, I'm sure of it. Only one week left :)

You should have seen how many cars were playing California Love on full blast this past Saturday. At least that argument can be put to rest now

[QuietStorm]

Andre sings on 95 percent of the record. So if that is what you want then it will be better. I quite enjoyed hearing him sing about making peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.

[50 Cent]

Grand Champ in stores now folks go out get that classic right now. The Dog is back.

[QuietStorm]

Simon, I have something you really want. 'Cheers' mate.

[Ronald McDonald]

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/tmhollis/Obie-Trice-Cheers.zip

[Simon]

The few songs I've heard from this album so far are really good, I'm downloading that now.

Got Some Teeth is going to be an 'In Da Club'-like hit that could make Obie into a star as quickly as 50 Cent...and :eek: it's actually a GOOD song, unlike 50's sack of spunk single. The video rules too, Eminem as greasy Greek barman = :yes:

[Simon]

In MP3 format? If so, :heart::heart::heart::heart::heart:

I'm having a look at it through RM's link in the Obie thread, but it's in RealPlayer...h8 RealPlayer :(

[Suno]

just get a converter

[Fro]

Anyone get the new Bubba Sparxxx album? I hear the production (all Timbo) is crazy good. Also, the Sheek album dropped today. A lot of my friends copped it, although I have very little interest in hearing it (I just wanna hear the Jadakiss cameos).

[Hack]

Anyone get the new Bubba Sparxxx album? I hear the production (all Timbo) is crazy good. Also, the Sheek album dropped today. A lot of my friends copped it, although I have very little interest in hearing it (I just wanna hear the Jadakiss cameos).

I got a promo copy on Monday, will probably end up reviewing it for next week's paper. I've only listened to it twice, so I could be wrong, but so far I'm saying that it is really, really mediocre. There are two songs that stand out, but the rest is just Bubba rapping NONSTOP about being from "the country." And the production follows that stupid theme, too ... like, every song has banjo samples, harmonica, etc. etc. People can say "Oh! That is so neat! He isn't rapping about being a thug!" but I say it is just as fucking stupid. He's just rapping about one subject: where he's from. I'm gonna put out a rap album called SOPHOMORE IN COLLEGE and see how it sells.

So, as of right now, I'm saying its like one really long, somwhat shitty cover of Outkast's "Rosa Parks."

[Suno]

You want country!? Nappy roots is the only way!

[strange famous]

So, as of right now, I'm saying its like one really long, somwhat shitty cover of Outkast's "Rosa Parks."



haha...now thats funny.

oh, and the new buck 65, 'talkin' honky blues', came out this week, i don't have it yet but i hear its incredible.

and don't forget.........non-prophets 'HOPE'......oct 7th.

sin six

sin six: i am a nightmare walking psycopath stalking natalie portman with a blank tape in my walkman

[spanish announce table]

DMX has been getting pretty average reviews from a lot of people.
Obie doesn't interest me at all.
Bubba's "Deliverance" could be good, but from Hack's description it sounds wack.
"Holla" by Ghostface is dope and so is "Something for the Streets" by Saukrates.

[Suno]

Got some teeth is garbage! I only heard a tiny bit of it but couldnt listen to its wackness much longer, corny ass shit.

and wow, eminem is in the video, thats a great way of promoting the album to fags like you and goths.

[hed]

Easy Suno, easy...

[Suno]

It needed to be said

[MavericK]

it sounds like that song the showdown that eminem and dr dre did

its also got the "without me"/"purple pills" theme to it

eminem loves opening new albums with cheesy songs like that

[Seanny One Ball]

The beat is nice and catchy and he flows pretty well, I like the song "Rap Name" that he did - that's got a good flow to it :yes:

Obie Trice should be the next big name.

[Prince XL]

As a lyricist, Obie is average at best but has a kind of charm about him that will make me reluctantly invest in his album

[QuietStorm]

I like the Obie Trice. But definitely nothing special. What I am pissed off about now is that I saw the updated album release dates and Royce's album is no longer there. There goes my only hype for the rest of the hip hop year.

[Fro]

I just wanna hear the Em verse, I hear they're dope.

[Simon]

Got some teeth is garbage! I only heard a tiny bit of it but couldnt listen to its wackness much longer, corny ass shit.

and wow, eminem is in the video, thats a great way of promoting the album to fags like you and goths.Your comments aren't really valid if you have 'only heard a tiny bit of it'.

The fact that Eminem is in the video isn't the point, it's what he's doing that makes it good...the 'character' he plays is funny, as is the Shallow Hal concept of the video in general.

Watch the insults, etc.

Anyone else see Shady Records turning Obie into a massive star the same way they made 50 big?

[Seanny One Ball]

Shady Records, turning rap stars into pop stars since 2002

[Suno]

my comments are always valid.

It just irks me that eminem can sign mediocre rappers and they blow up because they signed with eminem, who I still respect, but the rap game is starting to revolve around him it seems, I mean his wack production is cropping up all over the place, and I think he's lost the drive to be the best MC he can be and just fogs us off with generic verses, but i still respect him, I know he is one of the best out now, I mean the skit on obie's album where he mimics canibus is hilarious, but i havnt heard a verse I liked from him for ages.

[strange famous]

i thought this was pretty funny.....its eminem, i believe on the obie trice cd, doing some damn good impressions. the funk flex and 50 cent ones are great and i guess he's not a big canibus fan.

http://www.boomspeed.com/mfpsychoboy/obietrice.mp3

and the rest of the hip hop year should be awesome!
buck65, atmosphere, non-prophets, mf doom, outkast, aesop rock, soul position, even nas' lost tapes 2. too much.

sin six

sin six: '22 million inch rims.. if ya ain't sittin on dubs ya sittin on hubs.."

[Simon]

my comments are always valid.

It just irks me that eminem can sign mediocre rappers and they blow up because they signed with eminem, who I still respect, but the rap game is starting to revolve around him it seems, I mean his wack production is cropping up all over the place, and I think he's lost the drive to be the best MC he can be and just fogs us off with generic verses, but i still respect him, I know he is one of the best out now, I mean the skit on obie's album where he mimics canibus is hilarious, but i havnt heard a verse I liked from him for ages.His production isn't great right now, but under the tuition of Dre it can surely only improve? As it is right now, it has a hint of Dre (IMO) thogh inferior, but he has time on his side, in my opinion he could be really good.

As for Eminem being able to make average rappers into stars - agreed, I'd much rather see Immortal Technique, Cormega or Crooked I blow up, but that isn't going to happen, and Obie is decent enough. As for Eminem rapping...again, I have to agree :( he's probably the best rapper out right now, but doesn't put enough effort in. And, worryingly, Bizarre says something about a Devil's Night 2 coming soon...I'd rather have another Eminem solo :\

[strange famous]

ooooohhhhhhhh yeah. the ruler zig-zag-zig allah is back.

http://www.sadisticcreations.com/rza/

great end of the year for hip hop.

sin six

sin six: razor sharp

[Webbicho]

I just listened to a Remedy Rza and cilvaringz joint and it fucken mad, talking about the situation in palestine, without trying to attack either side to much.

I know Killarmy have lots of songs talking about terrorism, but does anyone know any other more educated songs about war, history etc? As many tracks as yall know, and it would be a good resource for anyone else who wants to know...

Cheers.

With your mind open and your eyes shut
you cant tell the difference of whos who and wuts wut

[QuietStorm]

Ok I change my position. I am VERY hyped for the new Aesop Rock.

[Prince XL]

Over time I grew to like 'Devil's Night'. The only way to describe it was 'fun' to listen to. I dont know. I'm in a minority(not for the first time in my life)

[Simon]

I've gradually started to like the members of D12, whereas before they seemed to me to just be hangers-on to Eminem...but Proof rules, and Swifty McVeigh could hold an album down also, I think.

Maybe Bizarre as well, comedy album of some kind :D