Hip Hop Discussion/Album Review Thread.

[Adamy]

"Lip Gloss" is the new "Chicken Noodle Soup".

[Matthew]

Here is a new bumpin track. Performed by Rajah's own Surge, and Produced by Rajah's own mega-producer, Matthew. Hollaback.

http://rapidshare.com/files/27421227/Seanny.mp3.html

Will this beef continue? Stay tuned!

[Fro]

Speed off, officer told me 'turn the beat off'
I turned it a level higher, then returned to devils fire

:cool:

[TRO]

That is slanderous crap rap.

[Fro]

Who exactly does that slander?

[Chris Scott]

Is Bis's album coming out next month for sure? His two March mixtapes were nowhere to be found.

Pre-Ordered mine earlier today.

Looking forward to another Canibus album, love his stuff.

[Stringer Bell]

Wow, the new Jazzy Jeff album is really, really good.. and that's just judging an edited promo version. The tracks with J Live, Big Daddy Kane, and CL Smooth are my favorites... just incredibly smooth, laid back beats. Perfect summer afternoon music. My question is, where the hell has Jazzy been all these years? He comes back and drops some shit like this, which sounds fresher than almost anything out. Ridiculous.

It's called "The Return of the Magnificent"... get it, you won't regret it.. it's also got tracks from Jean Grae, Method Man, Posdnous from De La, Rhymefest, and more..

[QuietStorm]

He had another album some years back.


http://www.amazon.com/Magnificent-DJ-Jazzy-Jeff/dp/B000069LDX/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/104-8377201-6937550?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1178056244&sr=8-2

[Chris Scott]

I remember buying Ma$e's Harlem World back in 97 when I was kid, I stuck it on for the first time in about 4 years(Some decent tracks).

Downloaded Double Up for curiosity and it's one of the worst albums I have ever heard.

[Chris Scott]

Finally got round to buying Canibus:2000 BC, to complete my collection including his mix tapes. This is the first time I have heard it and wow it's superb.

This album is definetly, without doubt the best album I have ever heard. Beats normally come first in most artists album, followed by lyrics but this has both at an equally high rate. There are at least 8 excellent tracks with good beats but better lyrics, followed by 5 tracks with weaker beats but equally excellent lyrics.

Guess I saved the last to best as I think this just edges out Rip the Jacker.

With his new album out soon, I'm banging in his CD's every chance I get.

[spanish announce table]

I've played that album so much over the years, its at the point where my stereo doesnt even read the disc anymore.

[spanish announce table]

http://www.zshare.net/audio/canibus-album-sampler-mp3.html

June 5th...Based off this sampler, this could be his best album yet.

[QuietStorm]

Finally got round to buying Canibus:2000 BC, to complete my collection including his mix tapes. This is the first time I have heard it and wow it's superb.

This album is definetly, without doubt the best album I have ever heard. Beats normally come first in most artists album, followed by lyrics but this has both at an equally high rate. There are at least 8 excellent tracks with good beats but better lyrics, followed by 5 tracks with weaker beats but equally excellent lyrics.

Guess I saved the last to best as I think this just edges out Rip the Jacker.

With his new album out soon, I'm banging in his CD's every chance I get.
The Curriculum is his most amazing album to date, just because it came completely out of nowhere with no expectations attached and with little to no publicity. That was his masterpiece, the one that I'll remember 20 years from now not including what FWTBT and everything post-now might contain.

[Chris Scott]

I love The Curriculum, maybe because 2000 BC is fresh for me and I'm loving it at the minute.

Now you mention Curriculum, I'm getting it out to listen to again, bloody awesome Bis is.

[Chris Scott]

http://www.zshare.net/audio/canibus-album-sampler-mp3.html

June 5th...Based off this sampler, this could be his best album yet.

June 5th? Dam I was looking forward to May, still can't wait though.

That sample was very nice indeed :hyper:

[Chris Scott]

Anyone know of a decent site other than ebay to buy Mixtapes from?

[QuietStorm]

Try sandboxautomatic.com....

[eugenespeed]

Currently listening to a UK based rapper called J2. Anyone else heard of him.

I really like his style. When I do go for rap, I normally go for the more agressive stuff, but there is something about this album.

[bizgivbiz]

I know alot of you aren't from the states but these are my primary two sources for new hip hop singles.

Hiphopgame.com/index2.php3?page=tracks1
(or just Hiphopgame.com)

and

Allhiphop.com

[Bert]

also

Hopsmp3thing.com

which is really

sanctify99.blogspot.com

he usually has the new singles...

[RuneEdge]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=miltuPnRenw
Anyone know which tracks the Jay-Z and Nas verses come from?

[Stringer Bell]

Nas - You Know My Style

Jay is familiar but I can't find the track..

[Ricky]

Listening to Return of the Magnificent and while I'm only five tracks in, nothing has been bad so far. Really good album.

[Eddie Colon]

I've listened to Return of the magnificent a few times. Outside of the R&B tracks and the Meth cut being a bit dissapointing it was really good. All of the unknow rappers did well, especially the one in Go to the doctor 2k7. CL and the ongoing Will Smith stuff where awesome

[Winkle van Tinkle]

Just read that Proof of D12 done a song with Twiztid (a rap/rock band on the same label as ICP) just before he got shot. The song is set to be on their new album and it's called "How I Live".

God really showed him.

[Stringer Bell]

I've listened to Return of the magnificent a few times. Outside of the R&B tracks and the Meth cut being a bit dissapointing it was really good. All of the unknow rappers did well, especially the one in Go to the doctor 2k7. CL and the ongoing Will Smith stuff where awesome

Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought. I might have hyped it up a little too much, but man.. the good songs are so good. I didn't mind all of the R&B stuff, but that "Touch Me With Your Hands" song is pretty bad, period. J Live, BDK, and CL kill it, though.

The Marco Polo LP is pretty thorough too. I love all of these producers coming out and dropping albums with numerous artists. I'd love to see Premier, Bronze Nazareth, or even Kanye do something like that.

[QuietStorm]

In case anyone forgot this procrastinating motherfucker is still out there somewhere....

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1zz2f_immortal-technique-changing-your-wo

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

That was fucking sick

[Stringer Bell]

Months later, I'm still loving Lily Allen. Can't wait to hear what she puts in on Common's LP, which should be in-fucking-credible by the sounds of it..

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

:(

In other news I finally listend to Revolutionary Volume 1 all the way through today, dunno what the fuck took me so long, but glad I did. A bit overcooked in places but pretty fucking quality album.

[Simon]

Tech is madness. Can't wait for him to come back to London, I wanted to see him when he was here before but no one was interested...I've converted a few people since then though, so the hopes are high.

My mate, possibly at this exact moment, is backstage with Nas at his gig in Brixton. What a cunt.

[QuietStorm]

Nas or your friend?

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

Was that Shepherd's Bush, Si?

Yeah I saw that too but none of my mates have even heard of him :\

Shit... that sounds quality. I'm going to see Xzibit in a few weeks, not quite the same but it'll do

[Stringer Bell]

www.spinemagazine.com

5 unreleased Game songs from the Doctor's Advocate sessions, except all 5 of these are produced by Dr. Dre. Some hot beats if nothing else, these are much more interesting than what Dre gave to Jay-Z.

[Hack]

http://kanyewest.com/video/kanye_video.html


Not impressed at all, to be honest.

[spanish announce table]

New Sean P & Steele mixtapes are supposed to come out some time this summer. Also, BCC is back August 14th with 'Casulaties of War'.

[Stringer Bell]

The video's pretty simple, but man, I love "Can't Tell Me Nothing". Just a monster of a single. Reminds me a lot of "Diamonds", and it'll probably end up being similar in that it will lead off followed by the radio/club single ("Gold Digger").

His new mixtape is pretty dope as well. It's called Can't Tell Me Nothing... lots of new and exclusive stuff.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

"German Lugers" by the Snowgoons - worth checking?

We're almost half way through 2007... what has everyone been impressed with?

[QuietStorm]

Very little.

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah, that Snowgoons album is definitely worth checking out. Nothing amazing, but a lot of good spots.

I've been impressed with Sean Price, Black Milk, El-P, Evidence, and Phat Kat.. all great albums in my eyes.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

Hmmmm... how would I get that IT Changing Your World video onto my iPod? Preferably as an audio file.

[MervKlitschko]

I was fortunate to get a copy of the new 'Bis album and it's tight. Not as good as RTJ but far and away better than crap like C true Hollywood stories.

So far this year i've been impressed with:
Return of the Magnificent Jazz Jeff
For Whom The Beat Tolls - Canibus
Waiting to Inhale- Devin the Dude
Digital Smoke - Kurupt and JWells (I'm not a huge West Coast fan but i'm diggin' this)

[Stringer Bell]

I'm pretty sure the only Canibus album that has hit the internet was a bogus version. Apparently they just looped Laureate Infinite lines over instrumentals and labeled it an advance copy. Could be wrong, but I haven't heard anything about a legit copy.

[QuietStorm]

Yeah, there are a shit ton of PLOO mixes out there.


Pharaohe Monch album is still pretty good despite being so long overdue, but I only listened to it once Wednesday night so maybe my opinion will change after the second run.

[MervKlitschko]

I'm pretty sure the only Canibus album that has hit the internet was a bogus version. Apparently they just looped Laureate Infinite lines over instrumentals and labeled it an advance copy. Could be wrong, but I haven't heard anything about a legit copy.

I got a copy straight from Waste Management.

Bis also sent me a .zip file of 134 remixes of Poet Lareaute Infinity that people sent to him. Most were poorly mixed, but some were outstanding.

[QuietStorm]

Upload?

[Stringer Bell]

Indeed..

Strong feeling we get the "I don't have to prove myself to you guys, I've got the exclusive" nonsense..

[MervKlitschko]

No, i was just saying it's a good album. Someone was saying there's been nothing good in 2007 and I was reiterating to those who like Bis that it's a good album. The goddam thing comes in 4 days so it's not like i'm that way ahead of the game.

It's like any newspaper of magazine that gets promo copies. Someone said it was just a leaked remix of PLI that I have and i was assuring that it wasn't.

Sheesh...I won't say anything then. You can just find out for yourselves

[Stringer Bell]

Thing is, if it was around, it would be on the internet. So no, it's not really like any newspaper or magazine. Your reaction really leads me to believe you're bullshitting, but oh well...

[MervKlitschko]

Yes, I am bullshitting. I've been caught. I just want to be loved.

[Matthew]

Please post some lyrics then.

[Stringer Bell]

Like I said, it's really not a big deal.. I'm sure most of us could care less. It's just in this day and age, it's nearly impossible to stop things from getting onto the internet soon after the copies are pressed up. The odds of you having a legit copy are pretty slim already, but then you had to throw in the whole "I got it from Waste Management, Bis sent me 1249023 mp3s, I'm cool" line, which makes it all seem like bullshit. Whatever dude :dunno:

[Matthew]

Not even a mention of tracknames....

I just find it funny is all.

[spanish announce table]

Tracklist for The Offering

1. Osirus Eyes (Intro) feat Zariya
2. Rivers Of Blood feat Nas (prod by 4th Disciple)
3. The Offering feat Hell Razah
4. Truth Be Told (prod by Godz Wrath)
5. How Many Emcees
6. Happy (prod by Shakim Allah)
7. Uprising (prod by Shakim Allah)
8. Beautiful
9. Essential
10. Things We Share (prod by Godz Wrath)
11. Priesthood
12. Stand Still feat Bloodsport & Immortal Technique (prod by Godz Wrath)
13. Through The Looking Glass (prod by 4th Disciple)
14. Through An Angel’s Help feat 7th Ambassador
15. Energy feat Canibus & Ras Kass (prod by 4th Disciple)
16. Angel feat Shanghai The Messenger
17. Ghetto Jesus (prod by Godz Wrath)
18. Nightfall (prod by Phenom)
19. Salvation (prod by Arythmetic)
20. Fire Rain feat Immortal Technique, Poison Pen & Others From Stronghold

The Offering, Looking Glass, and Stand Still are great tracks, but have all been out for over a year. Cant wait to hear Nas, Bis & Ras Kass on 4th Disciple production.

[QuietStorm]

No, i was just saying it's a good album. Someone was saying there's been nothing good in 2007 and I was reiterating to those who like Bis that it's a good album. The goddam thing comes in 4 days so it's not like i'm that way ahead of the game.

It's like any newspaper of magazine that gets promo copies. Someone said it was just a leaked remix of PLI that I have and i was assuring that it wasn't.

Sheesh...I won't say anything then. You can just find out for yourselves
I know Canibus corresponds with his fans because I have had convos with him before and I don't doubt you have all those mixes that everyone else already has, but please let me know why Waste Management would trust you with a copy of the album almost two weeks before the official release.

[QuietStorm]

Not even a mention of tracknames....

I just find it funny is all.
Tracklist:

1. For Whom the Beat Tolls
2. Harbinger of Light
3. Poet Laureate Infinite v003
4. Liquid Wordz
5. Father Author, Poor Pauper
6. Dreamzzzzz
7. Magnum Innominandum
8. Layered Prayers
9. The Fusion Centre
10. 702-386-5397
11. The Goetia
12. Secrets Amongst Cosmonauts
13. One Ought Not to Think
14. Javelin Fangz
15. There Has He Been
16. Poet Laureate Inifinity v004
17. Bonus Track

[Stringer Bell]

sat, excuse my ignorance, I dunno if I'm just tired or what.. but whose album is that?

I can't wait to hear 'Bus over Premier. Been anticipating that ever since you first mentioned it, QS.

[QuietStorm]

Not gonna be on this album. Bis is still waiting on Premo....

[spanish announce table]

sat, excuse my ignorance, I dunno if I'm just tired or what.. but whose album is that?


Killah Priest. Should be out some time in August.

[Stringer Bell]

Oh shit. That really does look like it's going to be great.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Just purchased Jazzy Jeff & Sage Francis... hoping they will be half-decent at least!

[Simon]

Just heard this 'Black Ty' Tyrese album, the soul man trying to be a rapper...he's not altogether terrible but he's not good - however, the production on the CD isn't bad. 'Roses' is funky as all fuck.

[Simon]

Also, what is this Saigon fellow like? I've scored free VIP tickets to see him tomorrow night, but dunno if I fancy it.

[MervKlitschko]

I know Canibus corresponds with his fans because I have had convos with him before and I don't doubt you have all those mixes that everyone else already has, but please let me know why Waste Management would trust you with a copy of the album almost two weeks before the official release.

Well if i said, it would sound like I was, as someone put it, acting "all high and mighty" and elite thus looking down on everyone.

But if you want to know, I work for a cannabis magazine which has a substantial music section. And if you know anything about the industry (not saying you don't, i'm just saying that it's typical), you would know a lot of labels and management companies send out advanced promotional copies sometimes a month in advance. Mine doesn't have a cover or even a booklet, it's just a cd in a blank jewel case and is watermarked with my name. Meaning if my specific copy is leaked, my name is all over it.

So THAT is why they would trust me.

[Stringer Bell]

We still going on about this? Why not just post some lyrics that none of us would know yet and end this shit instead of trying to explain yourself?

Si, go see Sai. He's a hell of an emcee, one of the few mixtape-never-to-release-a-real-album rappers that is actually worthy of the hype (or some of it, at least). Can't speak on his live show though as the bastard pulled out of the Method Man tour last year.

OH AND Uh, PS....

http://rapidshare.com/files/35096857/Talib_Kweli-Ear_Drum-Advance-2007-FTD.rar

[Matthew]

thanks or that, love you

[QuietStorm]

OMG OMG OMG

[Stringer Bell]

And here's the talk of the thread, which QS clearly already stumbled upon :p

http://rapidshare.com/files/35283736/Canibus-For_Whom_The_Beat_Tolls-2007-C4.rar

[Hack]

Months and months later, Hell Hath No Fury is still incredible, you fools.

[spanish announce table]

So far I've heard Liquid Words, and Dreamzzz (which made me burst out laughing). I'm waiting until after exams next week to buy this. From the little I've read about it, people are definitely liking it.

[QuietStorm]

I've listened to it about four times through and it is indeed a very good album. When I have some time on Sunday I'll post my thoughts.

[spanish announce table]

http://www.hiphopgame.com/index2.php3?page=seanprice3

Sean P is retiring after his next solo album.

[Adamy]

Months and months later, Hell Hath No Fury is still incredible, you fools.



I still say it's a solid but ultimately unspectacular album. 7.5- or 8-out-of-10 material.

[Hack]

I'd slap a big ol' 9 on it.

[bizgivbiz]

Anyone heard " I feel like dying" by Lil Wayne? It's gonna be on the Carter 3, and in my opnion that's the song of the year so far.

[Stringer Bell]

8/10 for Hell Hath No Fury sounds about right to me. Quite the departure from your original feelings on the album, huh Adamy? :p I think there are certainly spectacular points throughout the album, but it's not perfect.

"I Feel Like Dying" is a pretty cool song when you're stoned I guess, but it's not really anything mind-blowing. Also, I'll be rather surprised (and a bit disappointed) if it's on The Carter 3.

[Stringer Bell]

Just got some new Lil Wayne tape.. The Empire and Lil Wayne - Carter 3 Sessions. I dunno if it's official or what, but it's some of Wayne's best stuff. I just can't deny this guy anymore, he's truly on fire. Very few rappers are so fun to listen to..

"I Feel Like Dying" isn't really even one of the best songs on the tape..

Been bumping the fuck out of tha Bus/Vinnie Paz track.

[Mr. Boombastic]

I have a few of Wayne's earlier cd's and it is pretty weak; however, one of my friends at work has really turned me on the him for both Tha Carter, and Tha Carter 2, in addition to several mixtapes and I must say that Lil Wayne has been one of the rare cases where he has seemingly improved and stepped up his lyrical flow and content with each album, rather than becoming more and more derivitive like most rappers with each new release (probably cuz he is still quite young).

I cannot wait for Tha Carter 3, because outside of Nas and Talib Kweli, I do not think that there is a better mainstream rapper out there right now.

[Stringer Bell]

I still need to go back and listen to both Carters. They had some fun songs that I enjoyed when they were out, but I never really took Wayne seriously back then. I'm sure there's plenty of good stuff to be uncovered there...

I used to be one of his biggest haters on here, but I just can't deny the guy anymore. What you said (Boombastic) is very true, he seems like he's actually enthusiastic and determined to improve and step his game up every time out. No matter what the subject matter, even if it's something tired and old, he seems to spice it up and make it much more entertaining than it has any right to be. If nothing else, that's Wayne's best trait. He's definitely at the top of the mainstream rap game..

He sure has come a long way from sounding like a retarded child in the "Back Dat Azz Up" video...

[Matthew]

I popped Tha Carter in the other day. There are quite a few catchy tunes I enjoy. Ain't That a Bitch.

[spanish announce table]

This is totally random, but is any one you guys a white dude from Michigan with a last name Snyder/Schneider?

[Stringer Bell]

:lol: Random indeed.

I'm a Virginian with the last name Jones. Represent.

SAT, you check that new Bronze Nazareth yet? Is it actually a new album? Seems like it popped up out of nowhere. I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet.

[QuietStorm]

This is totally random, but is any one you guys a white dude from Michigan with a last name Snyder/Schneider?
Yes, that would be me. Facebook?

Got a little bored the other day....

[Stringer Bell]

Add me fool

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

Shit, I don't now how much cred or love Xzibit draws in these days but I went to see him live last night and it was pretty shit hot. I've been to a few shows but I suppose this was the first hip-hop one, X (with DJ Invisible and some west coast dude) was fucking on point. Set included LAX, Motherfucker, Front to Back, Alkaholik, Get Your Walk On, What You See is What You Get, Paparazzi, Symphony in X Major, Bitch Please, Beware of Us, What's the Difference and obviously X. Pretty impressed the encore was Spitshine and Criminal Set

First time I've seen an act come back out afterwards to do autographs (minus Xzibit) but they were refusing to do them for white people :lol:

[spanish announce table]

:lol: Random indeed.

I'm a Virginian with the last name Jones. Represent.

SAT, you check that new Bronze Nazareth yet? Is it actually a new album? Seems like it popped up out of nowhere. I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet.

'The Unknown' is actually a Bronze/Kevlaar album that came out in 2002. Some good stuff on there, but you could tell they were still developing their styles. Their production and rhyming skills are way better now than it was back then. Still worth checking out.

Flow, I still dig Xzibit. His performance of 'Thank You' on Letterman last year is amazing. I havent been to a concert in forever though. I was going to go to Masta Killa/Hell Razah a few weeks back, but MK got denied at the border and they changed venues the day before the show.

Still cant find Bis in stores anywhere.....


Add me fool

What's your network? Same with you QS. I didnt know it was you, so I denied the request.

[QuietStorm]

What's your network? Same with you QS. I didnt know it was you, so I denied the request.
Lansing/East Lansing, MI.

[Restiform]

Just wanted to say I've been enjoying the new Aesop Rock track, "None Shall Pass." Not sure how much its been talked about here already, but I'm gettin a bit hyped for the record. Glad to hear Blockhead's gonna be back, he's a sick producer and I find myself enjoying Aesop more when he's in the picture. Also, I hear Block and Aesop are both producing tracks on the new record, so does anyone know who did the None Shall Pass track? If it is Ace, I gotta say he's upped his game a good amount since Bazooka Tooth.

And more on topic, I'm finding myself more and more interested in Tha Carter 3. I've developed a bit of a soft spot for Wayne lately.

[bizgivbiz]

I just wanted to say R.I.P. Stack Bundles. Young dude had so much potential.

For you guys who were sleeping on lil wayne, I gotsome mixtapes that will make you a definite fan. Links at the bottom.



Dedication 2 (classic)
http://datpiff.com/Lil-Wayne-The-Dedication-2-mid799.html

Dedication 1 (classic)
http://datpiff.com/Lil-Wayne-The-Dedication-2-mid799.html

Suffix (flawless classic)
http://datpiff.com/Lil-Wayne-The-Suffix-mid406.html

Faceoff - Lil Wayne & Juelz Santana collabo mixtape
http://datpiff.com/Lil-Wayne-Juelz-Santana-Face-Off-mid1596.html#

Blow - another great Lil Wayne & Juelz Santana collabo mixtape
http://datpiff.com/Lil-Wayne-Juelz-Santana-Blow-mid1501.html#

The Drought 3 (disc 1) (probably thhe weakest of all the tapes)
http://datpiff.com/Lil-Wayne-Da-Drought-3---Disc-1-mid4313.html

The Drought 3 (disc 2) (better than disc 1 imo)
http://datpiff.com/Lil-Wayne-Da-Drought-3---Disc-2-mid4314.html

Thank me later if any of this has any value to you as a hip-hop fan.

[Stringer Bell]

Thanks, I have both Dedications, which are greaaat (not so much classics in my mind), and The Droughts, but thanks for the others. Wayne has really opened my eyes lately.

One question.. as far as the 2 tapes with Juelz, how much of the material is the same?

[Tainted Eclipse]

Take Me To Your Leader by King Geedorah is fucking brilliant. Just got it a couple days ago, and is definitely one of my favorite albums ever.

[skulldice]

oh word

[Restiform]

Take Me To Your Leader by King Geedorah is fucking brilliant. Just got it a couple days ago, and is definitely one of my favorite albums ever.

Hell fuckin yes. Take Me to Your Leader is my #1 Doom effort ever and probably even in my top 10 of all time. Sick choice.

[skulldice]

d/ling it now it better be godly

i better be able to play it over wrestling commentary while watching matches

[Hack]

I think I'd rank Doom's albums like this:

MM .. Food
Madvillainy
The Special Herbs box set
Viktor Vaughn
Take Me to Your Leader
Operation Doomsday
Mouse and the Mask

I feel like I'm forgetting something.

I do love that King Geedorah album, though. I just like the others even more.

Rapper of the decade, bitches :yes:

[Matthew]

d/ling it now it better be godly

i better be able to play it over wrestling commentary while watching matchesDon't post.

[Restiform]

Nice ranking, Hack. Guess I'll rank mine too while its on. For me it goes:

Take Me to Your Leader > Operation: Doomsday > Madvillainy > Mm.. Food > Vaudeville Villain > Mouse and the Mask

Only ranked proper albums there so I didn't include the Special Herbs boxset, even though its immense. But yeah, Doom's gotta be at least one of the top rappers of the decade, no doubt. Wanna get my hands on some KMD soon, also.

[Hack]

I think I'm one of the few Doom fans that considers MM .. Food his best, but I've just always loved that album. I even dig the long sound collages that most seem to hate.

[Morrison]

I can't even put a number to the times I've layed in bed listening to MM.. Food while trying to drift off to sleep. It's the perfect album to chill to.

[Stringer Bell]

For me it's Operation Doomsday. I dunno if it's the lo-fi sound that suckers me in or what, but I just feel like he really brought a lot to the table with that one. It's incredible lyrically.

Edit: Wow, I didn't even notice you had OD so close to the bottom of your list, Hack. Any specific reason?

[skulldice]

Don't post.

What?

Get off my nuts, virgin.

[QuietStorm]

What?

Get off my nuts, virgin.
Says the guy who wants some rap music to synchronize with his wrestle viewing.

King Geedorah is probably not what you are looking for....

[Matthew]

What?

Get off my nuts, virgin.Wow man, I live in my parent's basement too, don't I? :rolleyes:

You made two posts this page. One was pointless, not on topic, and retarded. The next was half-on topic but 100% shit and unfunny. Maybe if you weren't making shitty posts, this would never happen. But I doubt you'd change.

[Hack]

For me it's Operation Doomsday. I dunno if it's the lo-fi sound that suckers me in or what, but I just feel like he really brought a lot to the table with that one. It's incredible lyrically.

Edit: Wow, I didn't even notice you had OD so close to the bottom of your list, Hack. Any specific reason?


It isn't that I don't like Doomsday, I just like the others even more.

[skulldice]

Wow man, I live in my parent's basement too, don't I? :rolleyes:

You made two posts this page. One was pointless, not on topic, and retarded. The next was half-on topic but 100% shit and unfunny. Maybe if you weren't making shitty posts, this would never happen. But I doubt you'd change.

You probably do.

Keep swinging

[Matthew]

Thanks for proving that you are mentally handicapped.

[Stringer Bell]

And thanks for ruining some half-way decent conversation with your senseless bullshit. Please, go elsewhere. (skulldice, of course)

[TapOut]

Has anyone gotten this Pac mixtape? I have never came across it. It's over a year old, but I just downloaded it yesterday and I'm loving it. It's a duet album akin to Biggie's, except amateur made. The sound quality is really good which by default puts it above half of the mixtapes out there, and the instrumental and artist choices for the tracks are great. One of the best "concept" mixtapes out there.

http://www.datpiff.com/Tupac-Tupac-Duets-mid242.html#

[Stringer Bell]

Whatever floats your boat homie..

Anyone seen any good shows lately? Heard any good new shit? I've been so out of touch with rap. I hear this new TI is actually good but I haven't even listened to it to be honest.

[spanish announce table]

I've heard so much good stuff about Dilla, so I finally decided to check him out for myself. Picked up a copy of Donuts yesterday, and I realize I've been missing out. The album is solid from top to bottom, but I dig tracks 8-11 the most.

[QuietStorm]

Why did I dismiss the Kweli album so quickly? Now that I am listening to it more I'm giving this one his best grade since the untouchable Reflection Eternal.

[.invurzion.]

I've listened to the new T.I. album and wasn't impressed. The joint with Eminem got way too much hype and doesn't deliver for me. I don't know if I just got an advance copy and that's why it's horrible, but I thought I copped the retail version.

I may have to take another listen ... PM me if you need that.

[Chris Scott]

Loving the album 'For Whom The Beat Tolls'

Poet Laureate Infinite v003 and Poet Laureate Inifinity v004 :drool:

I love Bis.

[Stringer Bell]

Dilla is godlike.

The Kweli album is SO incredibly thorough. Is it in stores yet? I gotta buy that one. 9/10 for to me...

I like the TI, I dunno. I like it because you know he's real and NOT bullshitting you like most of these rappers, TI has been saying the same shit since he came out. It's hard as fuck. I like Jay and surprisingly Em's verses a lot. Eminem's isn't anything mind-blowing, but it's fun... gets me going. Reminds me a BIT. of vintage Em. But Jay-Z, he kills it. TI himself is pretty nice throughout the CD. I'd say it's about 50% dope, which is the case with most every rap album (however good) these days..

The Act's are cool and serve their purpose. Plus there. "Big Shit Poppin" is a monster of a single in my eyes. "Raw" is one of my favorite tracks on the album. "You Know What It Is" is alriight, "Da Dopeman" serves its purpose and is a pretty good track. "Watch What You Say To Me" is probably my favorite track on the whole thing, absolutely love it. Beat is a little boring, but TI and Jay murder it. "Hurt" is a DOPE!!! song. Shit gets me pumped every single time. "Help Is Coming" is the best beat, Just Blaze did a masterwork right there.. TI did nice with it, though the hook seems to get on my nerves. Oh well, still a helluva song. "Touchdown" grows on you, that's all I can say. "Tell Em I Said That" is one of the best songs as well. The last two songs are okay, but not standouts really. The rest of the album I don't really give a fuck about to be perfectly honest. But go give it a second chance, cuz ya'll ALL know I wouldn't spend this much time praising it if I didn't enjoy it. It's definitely something I might be sick of in 6 months, but right now, it's doing the job for me..

Back to Clipse Hell Hath No Fury -- definitely a 9/10. 8 sounded right at the time, but I've been listening to it all week and, this album is near perfection.

[spanish announce table]

Loving the album 'For Whom The Beat Tolls'

Poet Laureate Infinite v003 and Poet Laureate Inifinity v004 :drool:

I love Bis.

I've been playing this on the bus to and from school for the past week and a half, and it gets better every time. My current favorites are One Ought Not To Think, and Liquid Words.

I dont really dig PLI 3 & 4 as much as I thought I would. The concept is awesome, but the mixing is sloppy, and a lot of the rhymes are disjointed. I've heard better, more cohesive mixes at canibus-central. I prefer the original 45-minute version over both of these 11-minute mixes.

[Deka]

I've listened to the new T.I. album and wasn't impressed. The joint with Eminem got way too much hype and doesn't deliver for me. I don't know if I just got an advance copy and that's why it's horrible, but I thought I copped the retail version.

I may have to take another listen ... PM me if you need that.

I agree. For all the hype, the album just did not really deliver on all fronts. I've bought the album and I'm stll banging songs off the King album, while T.I. vs T.I.P. sits untouched in the passenger's seat. I like "Raw", "Hurt", and "Show It To Me" alot. "Big Things Poppin'", "Da Dopeman", "You Know What It Is", "Tell 'Em I Said That", "Touchdown", and "Help Is Coming" are alright. "We Do This", "My Swag", "Don't You Wanna Be High", "My Type", and "Respect This Hustle" all suck.

[Stringer Bell]

You like the song with Nelly a lot? :(

[TRO]

I haven't been listening to much new rap, just De La Soul, Brand Nubian and Camp Lo, but that new Aesop Rock track is the shit: None Shall Pass (http://www.aolcdn.com/_media/ch_music/aesop_rock-none-shall-pass.mp3)

I got a list, here's the order of the list that it's in, it goes: MM .. Food, Madvillainy, Operation Doomsday, Take Me To Your Leader, Bl_ck B_st_rds, MM .. Leftovers, The Mouse and The Mask, Mr. Hood, Vaudeville Villain, the MF EP, Live From Planet X, Guest Shots Vol 1.

BTW Guest Shots (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HN32KC39) has:

3rd Bass - The Gas Face
Count Bass-D - Quite Buttery
Monsta Island Czars - Run The Sphere (OG Mix)
Herbaliser - It Ain't Nuttin
Molemen - Yee Haw
Greedy Fingerz - Rhymes Like Dimes (feat. Megalon)
Divine Mind - Center Stage
Scienz of Life - Yikes
All Outta Ale
Non Phixion - Strange Universe
Fondle Em Fossils
C-Rayz Walz - The Lineup
Madvillain - One Beer
Live

The Special Herbs are a whole other topic, I think 5 & 6 were the best, but the box set is mind-blowing.

[Chris Scott]

I've been playing this on the bus to and from school for the past week and a half, and it gets better every time. My current favorites are One Ought Not To Think, and Liquid Words.

I dont really dig PLI 3 & 4 as much as I thought I would. The concept is awesome, but the mixing is sloppy, and a lot of the rhymes are disjointed. I've heard better, more cohesive mixes at canibus-central. I prefer the original 45-minute version over both of these 11-minute mixes.

Oh yeah I love the 45 one better, but for some reason I'm loving the other two at the minute.

[Deka]

You like the song with Nelly a lot? :(
Yeah. Love the instrumental, it's a really well-produced track. T.I.'s opening verse is killer, in my opinion (and hilarious). Nelly does well enough on the track. I have no complaints about his portion and I think him and T.I. clicked perfectly. It'd make a great single and, probably, be coupled with a hell of a video.

[Stringer Bell]

Shitty live camera phone (?) rip of 2 brief new Wu Tang songs... get excited mfkas.. Deck KILLS it..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ0sb0fSkmI

[TapOut]

You like the song with Nelly a lot? :(

Nothing's changed, I see.

However, I'm not going to hate on you man. I've been listening to a shitload of D'Angelo over the last few months on your recommendation. Never cared for him much before, but now he's one of my favorites. Which leads me to...

Anyone know if the new Common has leaked yet? I'm dying to hear some the collabs on that, one of which is with D'Angelo, I think. I know I really liked the Kanye/John Legend tracks on "Be".

[spanish announce table]

Shitty live camera phone (?) rip of 2 brief new Wu Tang songs... get excited mfkas.. Deck KILLS it..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ0sb0fSkmI

I'm definitely hyped for the album after hearing those songs, but it kinda sucks Deck recycled that verse from a track off Resident Patient.

[Stringer Bell]

As far as the Nelly song, it's just weak. Especially when "Help Is Coming" is just "decent" or whatever. Just Blaze MURDERED that beat. But meh, each to their own, just sayin'... I don't even like TI, and this album knocks.

Com hasn't leaked, but should soon.

I think I'm going to make Kanye West's album the first album in as long as I can F'ing remember that I haven't downloaded the leak of, and go buy it the Tuesday it drops. That experience is just one-of-a-kind, and I haven't felt it in so long. Fuck a web leak.

SAT- Didn't notice the recycled Deck verse. Guess people on the Wu forums didn't either :lol: Did the Rae part remind you of that horrible "We Pop" from Birth of the Prince at all?

Just for the hell of it, because I'm listening to this tonight. I think there's a thread for it somewhere, changes you would make to albums or some shit. Anyway, nothing major here, just some changes to a near-classic in my eyes.. switching the order a little, dropping some filler.

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/61R-rBpMjFL._SS90_.jpg

Nas - Stillmatic

1. Stillmatic (The Intro)
2. Ether
3. Got Ur Self a Gun
4. You're Da Man
5. Rewind
6. Smokin'
7. 2nd Childhood
8. One Mic
9. The Flyest
10. Rule (Strictly for the message and lyrics, the song's kinda corny.. but it gets a pass over SHIT like "Braveheart Party")
11. My Country
12. Destroy and Rebuild
13. What Goes Around
14. No Idea's Original

Throw on a killer b-side or 2 from that time period (the original "Stillmatic", "The Second Coming".. I dunno.. anything but that "Salute Me" ish) and you've got yourself a ***** CLASSSSSSSSSSSSIC. A couple of the the beats might be a little lacking, but damn... lyrically, that's all 10/10 undeniably.

I do what I can do when I can do it, feel how I feel when I feel what I'm feelin/Live how I live, it's only cuz I been thru it/Learn it, try it, like it, eat it, then shit, it's nothing to it/Burnin, light it, weeded and off the liquor/While drivin outside, I'll never catch a vehicular homicide/My music is a description of my vibe, of course/My life, my sights, my thoughts, what I like on my fork/Cuz you are what you eat, you eat what you can/You pray to bless the food, but first, you wash your hands/To wash away them bad spirits, don't bring it in your home/Once you let them in, they stayin, evil be gone, say it...... - Nas, "The Flyest"

[Hack]

They are releasing MM .. Food again, this time with a bonus DVD.

I :heart: that man.

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah, that's pretty awesome, hopefully the DVD is worthwhile. Any word on them releasing Operation Doomsday? That's my faaaaaavorite, but we've been there just recently ;)

[QuietStorm]

I haven't been listening to much new rap, just De La Soul, Brand Nubian and Camp Lo, but that new Aesop Rock track is the shit: None Shall Pass (http://www.aolcdn.com/_media/ch_music/aesop_rock-none-shall-pass.mp3)
The entire album is the shit. My favorite release this year now that I have listened to it about 17 times.

[Stringer Bell]

It's definitely dope as hell, I love the production. Blockhead and whoever else (probably Aes himself on some tracks) handled the beats did a great job. The song with Cage is ohhhh so fun, the whole album is really. It's like the polar opposite of Bazooka Tooth, which I did enjoy in doses, but I'm sure you know what I mean. Love the album myself, but I still need to give it some more spins. I'll be buying it without a doubt. Surprised I passed up the recent Lif and El-P releases... might end up grabbing that El-P eventually, but this Aesop is the kind of shit you put your money down on right away. That's how I feel..

I'm waiting on that DEPART FROM ME, though ;)


No comments/retorts to my Stillmatic blurb? Anyone?

[Restiform]

So, Common's 'Finding Forever' has leaked, and I just finished up with it. Gotta say, it's fuckin fantastic. Com is soooo good and the production is incredible. In my opinion, its better than 'Be.' It might actually be his best album ever.

[Stringer Bell]

Where did you find that? All I've seen/been bumping today is Sean Price's new mixtape...

[Restiform]

My friend sent it to me, no idea where he got it. I'll post it here if anyone wants.

[Stringer Bell]

Please do, if it's no trouble. I can't find it.

[Restiform]

No problem, man.

http://www.mediafire.com/?0xgvpcdtod1

[Stringer Bell]

Thanks a lot :yes:

Anything you looking for? Got the new Sean Price official mixtape, Camp Lo's new album, the Aesop Rock promo, Termanology's new mixtape.. but shit, if you've got this Com, I'm sure you can get your hands on any of that :p

[TRO]

There's a new Camp Lo album? Is it any good?

[Stringer Bell]

To be honest, I haven't listened to a whole lot of it, but it definitely sounds quality. It's no Uptown Saturday Night, but there will never be another Illmatic, either, y'know?

Had a Rapidshare link but it was acting up..

http://iif9qn94mq2qbndn5.usercash.com/

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6905/camploxc2.jpg

Restiform, thanks so much for this Common. I'm digging the FUCK out of this. I owe you one somehow, buddy.

[TRO]

Thanks bro, I'll upload something good for you guys. I loved this thread back when we were sharing stuff constantly and I actually had internet access. You ever listen to Strange Fruit Project or Dr. Who Dat?, which I happen to have on this computer?

[Stringer Bell]

No problem.. I have no problem sharing stuff, I just go through phases where I barely get online and what not.. meh. But yeah, I'll come around here more.

Got some SFP stuff and they're awesome, but I haven't heard any full length Dr Who Dat? stuff, despite Hack's numerous recommendations. So that'd be cool if you don't mind.

[TRO]

My laptop broke a while ago, I'm just housesitting for my parents for a few days and taking advantage of their internet and hot tub and whatnot.

I'm uploading Dr. Who Dat? - Beat Journey, should be about half an hour. :beer:

[Stringer Bell]

Thanks a lot dude, I'll be heading to sleep before then but I'll definitely grab it tomorrow. I appreciate it, have a good night yourself and enjoy that Camp Lo. Download that Common too! Peace

[TRO]

Beat Journey (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9CI9I9IA)

...

Holy shit Forever is good. Can't stop listening to it. It's literally made me laugh, cry, and think about life. I liked Be, but this is on a whole nother level. Common is at the top of his game, and the production is phenomenal, "So Far To Go" does more than justice to Dilla's beat. It's everything I like about the Soulquarians vibe in one album; this is hip-hop at its finest. I need to listen to it more to get some perspective, but I haven't liked a rap album this much after a first listen in years...

[Fro]

I've got a birthday coming up and you better believe I'm telling my parents to get me the new Kweli and Common albums, niether of which I have/will download beforehand.

:D

[spanish announce table]

http://thedicegame.blogspot.com/

Links for Sean P, Common, Steele, Ill Bill, Camp Lo, and tons of other stuff.


http://home.planet.nl/~wolf0620/malveaux.suzanne.html
What the hell? Is Bis serious? She's not all that.
Kiran Chetry > Suzanne Malveuax

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah, this Common album is phenomenal. Fro, you are a lucky man for not hearing this and Talib yet.. you are in for QUITE the birthday present, my friend.

Thanks for upping that TRO.. I'll grab it today.

[Restiform]

Thanks a lot :yes:

Anything you looking for? Got the new Sean Price official mixtape, Camp Lo's new album, the Aesop Rock promo, Termanology's new mixtape.. but shit, if you've got this Com, I'm sure you can get your hands on any of that :p

Haha, I'm good for now but thanks for the offer man. Glad to see people are enjoying Finding Forever, Com's style is so smooth and class and I haven't been this amazed by a hip hop album's production in a long time.

[Stringer Bell]

I definitely feel like Common really stepped his game up lyrically on this one. I mean, he's always been one of the GOAT's, and he had plenty to say on Be, but something about the lyrics on this one really hit me. I think it's because they're a bit more versatile and touch on so many different concepts, as opposed to Be. Lyrically, this album is damn near perfection in my eyes.

One thing that I can't say about Finding Forever, is that it doesn't have any track that (in my eyes) matches the strength of the intro/title track "Be". That song was awe-inspiring, and to this day gets my head nodding straight away and mouthing every single lyric. Sadly, as amazing as Finding Forever is, there doesn't seem to be a song with that much grace/power (I don't even know what word I'm looking for to be honest :p).. "Be", the song, was literally the perfect hip-hop song in my eyes. Anyway, despite this album lacking a song with such presence (which is a hard thing to do in the first place), I think I am enjoying the overall album more than Be.

The production is MUCH different, so it's hard to even compare the two on that front. I love the work Kanye and will.i.am brought to the table, it's oh so refreshing and has such a unique vibe to it. Kanye doing his best Dilla impression is nice throughout, and makes for some excellent songs. What's even more intriguing is the stuff we're hearing from Kanye on this album is most likely going to be NOTHING like the production on Graduation, so I'm super-excited for that.

One thing, I wish I hadn't downloaded tracks like "The Game", "Black Maybe", and "Misunderstood" before the leak, because they are amazing songs and are MEANT to be heard in this fashion. Once again, Frofiles, you are lucky my friend! Enjoy!

I was especially pleased when I heard new lyrics on "So Far To Go". The original from Dilla's The Shining was perfect as is, and would've fit the album fine, but now instead of one excellent track, we've got 2. Good look, Com.

It's hard for me to say an album is 5/5, because I don't even remember the last time I have... but this is the first time I've felt an album deserves something close to that in quite some time. Of course I need to let it digest some, don't want to speak too soon and all. But this is without a fucking doubt, 4.5/5 at the least, according to my ears.

:heart:

[Stringer Bell]

C'mon boys.. I break down an overlooked classic (Stillmatic) and the whole new Com LP.. gimme some feedback :p

BTW, Common has been dominating my car and PC, so I still haven't got around to listening to Dr Who Dat?, but thanks a lot TRO. Also, I've listened to some more of the Camp Lo, and I love it...

[TRO]

One thing that I can't say about Finding Forever, is that it doesn't have any track that (in my eyes) matches the strength of the intro/title track "Be". That song was awe-inspiring, and to this day gets my head nodding straight away and mouthing every single lyric. Sadly, as amazing as Finding Forever is, there doesn't seem to be a song with that much grace/power (I don't even know what word I'm looking for to be honest :p).. "Be", the song, was literally the perfect hip-hop song in my eyes. Anyway, despite this album lacking a song with such presence (which is a hard thing to do in the first place), I think I am enjoying the overall album more than Be.

As far as I'm concerned, "Forever Begins" is that song. Living forever through song, it's just such a powerful concept put out there so precisely, a lot like "Be". Plus I'm a sucker for prose spoken over a drum beat.

Anyways, I would call it 5/5 and basically flawless. Not a bad track on there, and most of them are fucking great. It's up there with The College Dropout and better than anything Jay-Z and Nas and Ghostface have done lately, which is saying something. I haven't clicked with an album so quickly and thoroughly since I heard Blazing Arrow by Blackalicious, which is consistently my favorite rap album ever. It's just so timeless, sampling Nina Simone and the Isleys and the total boom-bap track with DJ Premier; Finding Forever feels like something I've heard many times in the past, but it's completely new. Hard to pull off. My favorite album of the year, so far.

So is it ok to like Lily Allen now?

[spanish announce table]

I listened to FF for the first time last night, and while it was damn good, it didnt immediately pull me in like Be did. Some of the production here I know is going to take a few more listens to really grow on me. Lyrically, Com's always been one of the best, so there are no complaints there from me.

[Stringer Bell]

As far as I'm concerned, "Forever Begins" is that song. Living forever through song, it's just such a powerful concept put out there so precisely, a lot like "Be". Plus I'm a sucker for prose spoken over a drum beat.

Anyways, I would call it 5/5 and basically flawless. Not a bad track on there, and most of them are fucking great. It's up there with The College Dropout and better than anything Jay-Z and Nas and Ghostface have done lately, which is saying something. I haven't clicked with an album so quickly and thoroughly since I heard Blazing Arrow by Blackalicious, which is consistently my favorite rap album ever. It's just so timeless, sampling Nina Simone and the Isleys and the total boom-bap track with DJ Premier; Finding Forever feels like something I've heard many times in the past, but it's completely new. Hard to pull off. My favorite album of the year, so far.

So is it ok to like Lily Allen now?

I hear you, especially on the first paragraph... the spoken stuff at the end is excellent.. any idea who that is? The Last Poets from "The Corner" maybe?

I just can't say 5/5 just yet, need to give it a week or two.

I've always been a Lily fan :D

Listening to Dr. Who Dat? now, and this is really good stuff, I don't know why the hell I never went and checked it out. Didn't realize it was all instrumental stuff, when Hack compared him to Doom, I figured he meant lyrically.. but this stuff is awesome. Is this dude's only album?

[TRO]

I dunno, but he has some other beats online: http://www.myspace.com/drwhodat

I never heard of him; a record store was going out of business a while ago and I picked up a bunch of cheap underground rap, that was one of the good ones.

[TRO]

So have you guys heard this: Amy Winehouse - Rehab (Pharoah Monche remix) (http://www.nialler9.com/blog/media/Pharoahe_Winehouse_Remix.mp3). It really cracked me up, they tried to send me back to rehab, but there's no blow, blow, blooow

[Hack]

You mean you had never heard of him, TRO, even when I told everyone to check him out like fifteen thousand times in this very thread?

Why don't you people trust Hack yet? :cry:

[Stringer Bell]

Hack, you hate me now :(

Monch definitely killed that Winehouse remix, way better than Jay-Z's version. "Tried to take my black ass to rehab, there's no hyyyyydrrrrro-drrrroooooo-drrooooooo!"

[heel4hire]

Random question but who do you think is better: EMC or Strong Arm Steady?

[TRO]

You mean you had never heard of him, TRO, even when I told everyone to check him out like fifteen thousand times in this very thread?

Why don't you people trust Hack yet? :cry:

I've seen you recommend him, but I bought the cd almost a year ago and at the time the name meant nothing to me, I just wanted the beatz. Speaking of which if you guys liked Special Herbs and Soul of a Man by Mathematics, Beatz Vol. 1 by Large Professor is a good one to buy/download.

[spanish announce table]

Speaking of instrumental albums, has anybody heard "A Rapper's Best Friend" by Alchemist?

[spanish announce table]

After listening to FF for a few days, I'm really digging it a lot more. Black Maybe and Driving Me Wild are my current favorites. It still has some flaws though. I Want You is just average. I was expecting more from Will.i.am after he laced Nas and Game with some awesome production. The first two verses on Break My Heart are kind of weak.

I also heard Desire for the first time yesterday, and this album is incredible. Monch's flow and storytelling are phenomenal. I wasnt really liking Body Baby, or Bar Tap though. I'd say its a 3-way tie for album of the year with Common, Monch, and Bis.

[Stringer Bell]

Personally, as much as I liked the Monch, I don't feel it comes anywhere close to the Common album. Each to their own though. I just felt like Pharoahe had us waiting for what seemed like eternity, then dropped something incredibly average on us. I dig it, just not as much as everyone else.. I dunno.

I agree that will.i.am.'s beat is a little stagnant compared to the Nas and Game joints, but "I Want You" is definitely a grower. I didn't like it at all at first, but now I rock out to it.

One thing, Com could've ventured away from the love/lady topics a TAAAAD on this LP. I think that's the only thing that brings it down.. a little more variety as far as the lyrical content, and we'd be looking at a completely perfect hip-hop album. At the same time, he kills it, I love every song..

[Stringer Bell]

I know Com is the hot topic of the moment, but I gotta go back and address that Kweli now that I've had a good month to digest it..

This record is SO close to perfection, it's right on par with the Common album. The only thing the Kweli lacks is the cohesive, brilliantly executed full album feel.. it works in places, but not throughout the entire LP. It's still excellent though, every track is truly a banger, and some are pure classics. 5/5? Just maaaaybe. Eardrum is incredible, Kweli touches on so many areas and emotions throughout the sixteen tracks, with his usual lyrical skill and wit. Not to mention the mind-blowing production, almost every beat is SERIOUS. Some are better than others, but I can't really find one bad one throughout the whole thing, which has been impossible to say about the last couple Kweli records. Superb.

I love, love, love this album, and I'll be buying it when it comes out. Sucks for Kweli that his albums always leak so damn early, this is the one he's had in him in the whole time... not saying it's his very best work, but I'm falling in love with it all over again. According to Amazon, it's got a 8/21 release date, but they also haven't updated the release date for Graduation to 9/11, so who knows. Eardrum is getting my $13 without a doubt though..

I'll say 4.8/5, maybe even closer to 4.9. The only thing that keeps this one from being PERFECT in my eyes is the lack of cohesion, at some points it feels like it jumps all over the place. I love the "Soon The New Day" into "Electrify" transition, but this one could've been laid out a bit better overall. Maybe he could've used a few producers more instead of the variety. One thing I really dug was how Madlib's tracks were hardly anything like the Liberation tracks, other than maybe "Everything Man". But Kweli could have had another Just Blaze joint, another Kanye track.. they could've handled one of the other tracks already on the album ("Country Cousins", "Hot Thing", "Listen"..) and given it more of a cohesive, better flowing feel. Regardless, Talib Kweli is the TRUTH, and this is going to be one of 2007's top 10 hip-hop albums, no matter what drops.

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/61pv7JR-9NL._AA240_.jpg


Honestly, 2007 looks like it's going to be one of the best years in hip-hop in quite some time.. between Talib, Com, Monch, Canibus, Sean Price, Evidence, Camp Lo, Aesop Rock, etc. etc.; and upcoming stuff from Kanye West, Wu Tang, Ghostface/Doom, Nas, UGK, Cage (hopefully), Raekwon (hopefully), Dre (hopefully), Saigon (hopefully), and so many more... this could be my favorite year in rap music since 1994 by the looks and sounds of things, but that might be a bit too optimistic...

[Fro]

So I went to Rock the Bells last night and it was pretty freakin' amazing. I guess this could be a spoiler for anyone who's going to one of the shows...

Wu, Nas, Cypress Hill and Jedi Mind Tricks were all solid, and Immortal Technique was VERY impressive (especially for me since I hadn't heard much of his stuff before). The only disappointment was Pharoahe Monch, who I'm sad to say was pretty damn boring on stage. MOP and David Banner were no-shows, but considering there were sets pretty much non-stop from 3 to 11 I didn't really mind. Supernatural hosted, and he was just incredible. I've heard his famous battles and seen that "Freestyle" documentary, but seeing him do his thing live just blew me away. Dude has SKILLS. He freestyled inbewteen every set, and even had the people in the front row hold shit up from their pockets which he then rapped about.

Wu did a few songs from the new album, none of which sounded very impressive. But of course at a big concert venue it's hard to get a feel for new music. Ghostface was nowhere to be seen, unfortunately. Oh and at the end of their set Meth shouted something like "Go Yankees!" which obviously got a good reaction from the crowd (the show being in Massachusetts). Funny stuff.

Cypress Hill had this huge blow-up Buddha on stage which was sick. Also they sparked up a bong in the middle of their set. Nas lit up a blunt as well, right before "Life's a Bitch".

Overall it was one hell up a hip hop show.

:yes:

[Stringer Bell]

:( Like 5 or 6 of my buddies are up in NY now for Saturday and Sunday's shows... fuckin' Indian Inviters :mad:

And that's dope you saw Nas, he's not going to the NY shows for some ODD reason..

Glad you had a good time though homie :yes:

[QuietStorm]

Cage is coming out in spring 2008, that is already official.

[Restiform]

rock the bells sounds immense, fro. what a fantastic lineup. a friend of mine is going sometime soon, he'll be happy to hear the majority of it is really good

also, would anyone happen to have any info at all on a/the new madvillain album? i havent been able to find jack shit on it, if theres even anything out there at all. not sure if its being kept under wraps or if im just looking in all the wrong places. 2007 certainly seems like the right time for a second installment to me

[N.E.R.F.]

Saw The Game in a tiny venue in Watford Friday night, massive security presence and that and he still got bottled :lol:

He started to spray champagne into the crowd about halfway through his set... after the third bottle someone threw an empty back at him and he jumped into the crowd and started beating the shit out of them. THen the bouncers came along with batons and the dancefloor cleared in an instant. Then I went and got a Black Wall Street t-shirt and left, but it was quality that he jumped in. He's not a pussy that man.

[Chris Scott]

Hahaha classic.

[Hack]

rock the bells sounds immense, fro. what a fantastic lineup. a friend of mine is going sometime soon, he'll be happy to hear the majority of it is really good

also, would anyone happen to have any info at all on a/the new madvillain album? i havent been able to find jack shit on it, if theres even anything out there at all. not sure if its being kept under wraps or if im just looking in all the wrong places. 2007 certainly seems like the right time for a second installment to me



I haven't been able to find anything either. I do know Madlib has quite a few projects coming out soon, so maybe they got priority over MV2. :dunno:

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

Saw The Game in a tiny venue in Watford Friday night, massive security presence and that and he still got bottled :lol:

He started to spray champagne into the crowd about halfway through his set... after the third bottle someone threw an empty back at him and he jumped into the crowd and started beating the shit out of them. THen the bouncers came along with batons and the dancefloor cleared in an instant. Then I went and got a Black Wall Street t-shirt and left, but it was quality that he jumped in. He's not a pussy that man.

Shit if I'd have known that was on I would've gone

Sounds quality

[Simon]

Same, I was going to go to that but I heard Game had flopped. Where was it NERF, Kandi Klub? I saw the fat bird out of Basement Jaxx there :D

Game is an enormous fucker, whoever threw the bottle at him is a spastic.

[Stringer Bell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA0r2JJGOfk

Peter Rosenberg continues his endless roll of hilarious videos, covering RTB from Randall's Island, NY...

[Fro]

"The People" is my favorite song in quite some time.

Dope album.

[Hack]

Anyone hear the new YNQ album? From what I've heard, it sounds great.

:heart: Madlib :heart:

[N.E.R.F.]

It was in Area Si.

[Stringer Bell]

Haven't heard the YNQ Hack, but speaking of Madlib, I did think I saw a promo/leak for the new Beat Konducta in India album or whatever it's called. Should be floating around somewhere..

[Adamy]

I don't know if Joell Ortiz is blowing up nationally or not, but his new album is really, really good. He's all about real hip hop.

[Stringer Bell]

Meh, I dunno. The Joell album is damn good, but I wouldn't give it quite that much praise. He's super-talented, and has some great beats and guest spots throughout the album, it's just nothing particularly memorable.. has that "mixtape" feel, although I don't think it's meant to be an official album anyway since he's on the Aftermath roster.

I like the album, don't get me wrong, it just faded away quickly for me. Maybe it'll make it that much better when I decide to dig it out again. The "125 Pt. 1 (The Bio)" and "Brooklyn Bullshit" are definitely standouts in my eyes...

Not putting words into your mouth Adamy, but just to continue, lots of internet heads have made the bold claim of calling Ortiz the new Big Pun, which is nearly laughable. He's a nice rapper, but Big Pun status? Naaaaaaaaah sir.

[Hack]

Haven't heard the YNQ Hack, but speaking of Madlib, I did think I saw a promo/leak for the new Beat Konducta in India album or whatever it's called. Should be floating around somewhere..


I'm buying it when it comes out, no questions asked. Thanks for the tip, though. :yes:

Now we just need Madvillain 2 to FINALLY get released ...

[Adamy]

Meh, I dunno. The Joell album is damn good, but I wouldn't give it quite that much praise. He's super-talented, and has some great beats and guest spots throughout the album, it's just nothing particularly memorable.. has that "mixtape" feel, although I don't think it's meant to be an official album anyway since he's on the Aftermath roster.

I like the album, don't get me wrong, it just faded away quickly for me. Maybe it'll make it that much better when I decide to dig it out again. The "125 Pt. 1 (The Bio)" and "Brooklyn Bullshit" are definitely standouts in my eyes...

Not putting words into your mouth Adamy, but just to continue, lots of internet heads have made the bold claim of calling Ortiz the new Big Pun, which is nearly laughable. He's a nice rapper, but Big Pun status? Naaaaaaaaah sir.

I back any rapper that reps being poor. Like that line about how he used to buy beer at the bodega, on credit. That's pretty real.

I don't think I'd call him the next Big Pun, especially because he doesn't seem too concerned about being famous, but they sound alike, so it's an easy comparison.

[Stringer Bell]

Tax free weekend + Best Buy's Reward Zone program = amazing

Could've been better, but it still added some pleasure to my weekend. I remembered I had stashed away a measly $5 Reward Zone ticket in my wallet, made my way up to Best Buy, and happily picked up the new Common album for $4.99. I almost feel guilty paying so little for such quality muzack...

Joell Ortiz is definitely nice, it just seemed that the luster of his album wore off pretty quickly for me. I still go back and listen to some songs, but I'm really looking forward to see how his Aftermath debut turns out. Of course, I'm sure we won't hear that anytime in the near future, being that it is Aftermath and all, but I'm still excited to see where it goes. Just don't let Eminem handle the production :mad:

As far as the Pun comparison, I guess you mean their voices sound alike, which I suppose they do at times...

[heel4hire]

I thought Termanology was going around proclaiming to be the next Pun?

"I see myself as the holy ressurection of Pun, if I ain't that, then you name one...."

[Stringer Bell]

Never said anything about Ortiz self-proclaiming..


Just to continue, lots of internet heads have made the bold claim of calling Ortiz the new Big Pun, which is nearly laughable. He's a nice rapper, but Big Pun status? Naaaaaaaaah sir.

And Termanology is a nice emcee in his own right, but he's not anywhere on Pun's level, either. At the same time, he probably didn't mean for that line to be taken 100% seriously, unless I'm completely clueless and he's said other similar things..

The thing that frustrates me about Termanology is that he seems so convinced he's so amazing, and that's usually all he ends up rapping about besides the usual thug bravado. Rarely does he actually convince me that he is indeed that amazing. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy's music, I'd probably say I like him more than Ortiz at the moment. I just think he's developing quite the ego for such an unproven rapper. Look no further than his new "So Amazing" joint, which has a BANGING Premier beat, but basically contains no lyrical substance other than Term whining about not having a deal and not getting noticed. I dunno, I really like the guy as a rapper, and I want to see him do well, but ALL these mixtape cats need to learn that no real hip-hop head is going to take you seriously until you prove you can put together a complete album. The exact same goes for Saigon, as much as I love him, and the internet's favorite love/hate poster boy Papoose, who I personally can't stand.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Anyone check out new UGK and Panacea? Thoughts

Need to get around to checking out Devin The Dude too...

Hmm, if anyone out there was kind enough to 'hook a brother up'...

[spanish announce table]

http://rs203.rapidshare.com/files/47581768/Boot_Camp_Clik-Casualties_Of_War_RapGodFathers.com_.zip

This is so gangsta, BCCC

Password: www.rapgodfathers.com

[Adamy]

As far as the Pun comparison, I guess you mean their voices sound alike, which I suppose they do at times...

Yeah, I just meant in terms of the sound of his voice. I think most fat Puerto Rican dudes from NYC sound like that, though.

[Fro]

Anyone catch the Flava Flav roast? I don't usually watch these things but I was flipping around and caught the Snoop Dogg part and he was funny as hell.

"I thought Ice T was throwing gang signs at me when I came in but it turns out it was just his arthritis"

[Stringer Bell]

Nah, but I meant to. Did they (or are they going to) show it uncensored yet? I'm gonna try to catch that airing/download it...

[Matthew]

The showed it uncensored last night.


CHRIS BENOIT IS A BETTER FATHER THAN FLAVOR FLAV

[Hack]

So the new Public Enemy is getting some really positive reviews. And I listened to a few clips online and it really did sound great. As someone who worships their first 4 albums, this has me pretty pumped ... but, at the same time, I'm finding it hard to believe that those guys could deliver a fresh album at this point in their careers.

Anyone heard it?

[Hack]

Oh, and by the way, after only one listen I can tell this new Oh No album is going to end up being one of my favorite albums of the whole fucking year.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

The intro track on that Ortiz mixtape/album was quality...

the Nas track on the credits to Rush Hour 3 sounded pretty cool, I'm gonna look that up

[Beer-Belly]

I'm going to Rock the Bells this weekend. MF DOOM is on against Wu Tang Clan. Should I split from the pack and see DOOM or keep my spot at the main stage?

[Hack]

I'd see the whole Doom set.

[Fro]

Depends on who you're a bigger fan of and whatnot, but I will say that Wu-Tang live isn't anything to write home about. I'd at least see part of the Doom set.

[Adamy]

The "alternate" video for "Can't Tell Me Nothing" is hilarious.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PpwgYsYWwdc

Look for Will Oldham just kinda hanging out.

[spanish announce table]

I'm digging the new BCC album. It's obvious why some of these tracks were left off The Last Stand, but songs like The Hustle, I Need More, BK All Day, and Casualties of War are damn good. I guess a new OGC album is out of the question? Top Dog has 2 verses on this album, Starang has 1, and Louieville isnt even on it.

There's news of a new Smif-N-Wessun album with Ken Ring & Rune Rotter, which are the same guys that did Trading Places from the Last Stand, and War from Reloaded. Sean P's got Mic Tyson, DIRT, and an album with Black Milk and Guilty Simpson coming out.

I found my copy of Still I Rise by Pac and the Outlawz after it was lost for 3 years. There's some really good stuff on here. Pac's verse on the title track is awesome.

[Stringer Bell]

:lol: Yeah, that "Can't Tell Me Nothing" parody is great. Reminds me of when Weird Al had a few quality parodies. "Amish Paradise" or whatever especially comes to mind. It's just hilarious though.. whoever Zach Galifianakis is, he's pretty damn brilliant. I had heard about the guy before I saw this, but this makes me want to look into more of his stuff...

Agree with you on both sentiments as well, Ice Cold. "125 Pt. 1 (The Biography)" or whatever that first track is called on the Ortiz album is just a BANGER in every sense of the word, I love how his flow sounds so hungry and relentless...

I know Hack :heart:'s Doom, but I can't agree fully there. Beer Belly, I'd say just go for whatever's most convenient when the time comes.. but I'd definitely make an effort to catch some of both sets. To me personally, seeing Wu live is a true once-in-a-lifetime experience, their show in DC in Feb '06 still remains my favorite concert ever. The energy and atmosphere just can't be described in words. Then again, I did see them at a club, so obviously it'll be a bit different. Sorry I got rambling so much, but to keep it simple ---- I'd try to make sure you see at least SOME of both of them. I know I'd be disappointed to miss either of them, and that really sucks that they're going head-to-head.. but do trust me when I say Wu Tang is something you don't want to miss. Even if you watch the majority of Doom's set and then head over to the main stage, just do what appeals most and is most convenient when the time comes is my best advice. Just don't miss the whole Wu set for god's sake! ;) Fro probably nailed it in far less words, just go for whoever you're personally a bigger fan of... but at the same time, I'd do my very best to try to catch some of both acts. Have fun!

I'm digging the new BCC as well, though I haven't really immersed myself in it yet, unlike some of the recent albums. It's definitely not quite on par with The Last Stand, but it's still a hard album nonetheless. My main complaint is that some of the beats are a tad lacking. I would've liked to see Illmind pop up again on this LP, it seems like he very rarely puts out weak beats and "Let's Go" was a banger on TLS. Would have enjoyed a few more contributions from Marco Polo as well... "My World" is far from his best stuff. And last but not least, I think they should have had 9th handle one or two more tracks. I absolutely :heart: some BCC + 9th Wonder, especially when Sean P is on the track. Good, hard album as always from these guys.. just need to let it digest a bit more.

Weeks later, I still think the Common album is phenomenal. I'm not yet sure how I'd rank it next to Be, but it's without a doubt 4.5/5 material. The production and overall presentation as an album is outstanding, much like Be, which something most rappers have a hell of a time getting the hang of. Of course, that all comes down to the executive producer, so I gotta tip my hat to Kanye West for yet another job amazingly done. In my eyes, the only thing that keeps this Common LP from being absolutely perfect is 1) the length (of course, sometimes less is more as long as it's quality, which it is, but this is two SHORT albums in a row from Com.. 15 or so tracks would've been ideal) and 2) the lack of diverse subject matter. Don't get me wrong, he addresses plenty of topics with his usual wit and intellect, it just seems like a few too many tracks were for the ladies. They're all truly excellent songs, but when there's only 11 songs total, you gotta vary it up a liiiitle bit more. It's not a bad thing by any means, it's just what prevents me from giving it perfect 5/5 praise. I think that the songs where he touches on deeper areas, like "Black Maybe" and "Misunderstood", they just stand out that much more. I love Com, and had to lay my money down on this album. However, I gotta cover one more thing that I mentioned a few pages back.......

Talib Kweli is my favorite rapper by far at the moment. Now that the retail of Eardrum has leaked, it's blowing my mind even moreso than the advance copy. The track order's been changed a bit, as well as a few new additions, and it's all for the better. Even though they ruined my favorite transition of "Soon The New Day" into "Electrify" (which is now titled "Stay Around"), I can't complain one bit. If anything, I think it's a bit more cohesive than the advanced copy. Contrary to the Com album, Talib literally touches on just about every area and emotion you could expect from a rapper, and then some. We all know he's always sharp lyrically, but I feel like he stepped it up more than ever on this album. Couple that with some of the best production I've heard all year (Madlib's concoctions on "Everything Man" and "Soon The New Day" are still blowing me away), a limited guest list with artists who are truly deserving (Norah Jones, Kanye, UGK, KRS-One), and one of the most intellectual and conscious albums I've heard all year... it's damn near perfect. I know Black Star and Reflection Eternal will probably always be considered as Talib's best work, but with Eardrum, I truly think he's made his classic masterpiece. I would post a link but there's no reason you cats shouldn't buy this album at the end of this month... 5/5? Just maybe.

[QuietStorm]

whoever Zach Galifianakis is, he's pretty damn brilliant. I had heard about the guy before I saw this, but this makes me want to look into more of his stuff...
Get on that immediately.

[Stringer Bell]

Will do, that video alone was enough to spark my interest :lol: Thanks QS.. I'm guessing Youtube will have some stuff at my disposal.

Sorry for the massive post above fellas, didn't even realize how carried away I got.

Bottom line, Eardrum is my favorite album of the year so far. As hyped as I am for the new Kanye album, which has about a zero percent chance of disappointing, I'm not sure he's going to be able to top Talib.

[Stringer Bell]

http://mp3post.blogspot.com/2007/08/va-hip-hops-greatest-singles-1989-1998.html

Scroll down for links

Almost a full decade of OH SO fun nostalgia.... you're welcome :D


EDIT: Don't sleep on the goodies above, but I'm in a good mood..

Necro - Death Rap (Promo) (http://www.sendspace.com/file/w9lmxc)

Killah Priest - The Offering (http://www.sendspace.com/file/spijzu) FINALLLLLY!!!!!!!!

And be sure to peep the homie Big R's site in my signature (Sumish.com), there's a free 10 track EP from Raydar Ellis over there, The Dimebag. Every track is quality, and it's free.. can't beat that!

[skulldice]

good looks on the necro

hope it's as good as pre fix and CoT. so far it's fire. production second to none. maybe it's just me but his flow seems better. "do you believe in Jesus? I'll introduce ya. revenge. I need some get back, I'm mad, you'll end up dead for that" ... gotta love this crazy mother fucker. "Belligerent Gangsters" is fuckin great. holy shit.
Sounds like a Benoit reference in "Keep on Driving"..haha

killah priest is dope too

do you have ill bills new lp, stringer?

[Stringer Bell]

I'm loving the Killah Priest, haven't given Necro a good shot yet just because he's not a personal favorite of mine, but I'll definitely check it out this weekend.

I do have the Ill Bill but honestly haven't listened to that much either. I'm about to pass out, but if you want a link, I can try to track it down for you tomorrow. Glad you're enjoying the Necro and Killah Priest.

[skulldice]

Yeah no prob I'm about to do the same.


Definitely check out Necro. Insane shit going on in that man's mind. The instrumentals are better than prefix and sexorcist IMO

[Stringer Bell]

http://rapidshare.com/files/44130976/La_Coka_Nostra_Presents_Ill_Bill-Black_Metal-2007-C4.rar

:D

[skulldice]

Thank You

[TRO]

Oh, and by the way, after only one listen I can tell this new Oh No album is going to end up being one of my favorite albums of the whole fucking year.

Man, you gotta love the groupthink in this thread, cause I was just going to say the same thing. I would go see Doom instead of Wu-Tang. Have you guys got that MM .. Food tour dvd that just came out?

[spanish announce table]

Even though I'm only half way through it, the new Killah Priest album is the best damn thing I've heard since Game Theory. The only letdown is the track with the Horsemen. Kurupt and Ras Kass sound weak, but Bis and Priest are just awesome.

[Stringer Bell]

I must be retarded, I haven't been able to find the Oh No album yet :( I looooved his Exodus... LP last year with Galt MacDermot samples, awesome stuff. I still bump the Posdnous track on a regular basis. If anyone would be kind enough to throw a link my way, I'd be oh-so grateful..

I agree about the Horsemen track, SAT. Not horrible, but I was damn excited when I saw the track on paper, and it's quite a letdown. I'm liking the album a lot too, although Eardrum is my album of the moment by far ;)

I've been tempted to by the MMM... Food reissue, but I'll wait until I can get my funds back up. I've got the original, but I really want that DVD..

[Stringer Bell]

KWELI IS IN STORES TODAY PEOPLE!!! BUY THAT SHIT AND SHOW THE LABELS WE SUPPORT QUALITY MUSIC!!!!!!!

[Fro]

I haven't heard it yet and will buy it very soon. Really looking forward to it after reading your review, Buck.

[Beer-Belly]

I saw Wu-Tang. MF Doom only performed for twenty minutes. I just didn't feel like getting split up from my group for such a short set. Wu-Tang exceeded my expectations.

The Roots and Blackalicious stole the show. Mos Def and Talib did some Blackstar stuff and that was pretty cool to see as well.

Worst part of the whole thing: the throngs of Rage Against the Machine fans. Ugggh, what a bunch of fucking idiots.

[spanish announce table]

I only had enough money for one album yesterday, and since Priest wasnt there (as is the case with almost all the albums I really want), I had to 'settle' for Kweli. I hadnt heard the album yet, and after the way SB was hyping this up, I had high expectations, and it delivered. Definitely feeling the tracks with Madlib the most. Would someone please post a link to 'Liberation'?

[Stringer Bell]

Glad you had a good time, Beer. The Roots live are definitely an essential in my eyes, Wu stands as my favorite show of all time, but in all honesty The Roots probably had a better live show. Just amazing music, and seeing ?uestlove tear up the drums in person is almost surreal...

And :lol: at the RATM comment, I can only imagine. They were outrageous in the Peter Rosenberg video of the NYC show..

Hope you enjoy it Fro, I certainly think you will.

That's pretty shitty that the Priest LP is difficult to find, I definitely would have picked that up soon. I still haven't been able to track down Black Milk's album anywhere. I'll probably end up ordering a bunch of albums from the Internet towards the end of the year, I guess..

And very glad you're digging it SAT, I woulda felt like an asshole if it didn't live up to my hype. I really can't fathom how any hip-hop fan wouldn't enjoy the album. Maybe it just clicks really well with me personally, but I think it's incredibly close to being perfect. Agree 100% about the Madlib tracks, he stole the show on that LP, even managed to outshine Just Blaze, whose track is GREAT in its own right. "Soon The New Day", "Eat To Live", "Everything Man".. just wow. I didn't even realize those were all Madlib beats until I saw the production credits... he seems to get better and better with every single step he takes. I know people are (in)patiently waiting on Madvillain 2, and I can't even imagine what mind-blowing shit those 2 are going to come with, whenever the time comes...

As for Liberation, the original version that they released for free online had fairly poor sound quality, so I don't wanna accidentally link you to that. I guess they ended up releasing it retail later in the year, because a CD quality rip eventually surfaced. After this post, I'll RAR it up and upload it. It's a dope EP, but I definitely didn't get into it the way I am Eardrum...

EDIT: Here we go, enjoy.. let me know if Rapidshare is an issue.

http://rapidshare.com/files/50614655/Talib_Kweli_And_Madlib-Liberation-2007-C4.rar.html

[Stringer Bell]

Speaking of Madlib, might as well throw a link in to the new Beat Konducta retail that I just came across.. :heart:

http://rapidshare.com/files/50403010/Madlib-Beat_Konducta_Vol._3-4-2007-C4.rar

[Raw Is Jonathan]

give me some suggestions for new music... obviously got common and kweli, but any hidden gems?! in the mood for getting some new stuff this weekend...

where do you all 'get' your music from online? all these links in here are spent... :-(

apart from killah priest :yes: just downloading, wickedness.

stuff i need to check out:

Camp Lo - Black Hollywood
Oh No - Dr. No's Oxperiment
Madlib - Beat Konducta In India (Vol. 3-4)
Devin The Dude - Waitin' To Inhale
Panacea - The Scenic Route
Yesterday's New Quintet - Yesterday's Universe

[Stringer Bell]

Still haven't heard the Panacea myself, but I'm sure it's quality. Their album last year was awesome.

Lame that the Madlib link already died, I'll try to throw up another one of those tonight. Oh No seems to be fairly hard to come by, but I do have a version where it's all in one 40:00 track, I can post that too. Might be able to find a Camp Lo link. Devin The Dude will probably be tough to find a fresh link for just because it's been out for awhile, but I'll upload it if need be..

PS -- Eardrum is only 9.99 at Best Buy and Circuit City until tomorrow. Cop that shit foooooooooooooools! I went to Best Buy today and was shocked to see that it was sold out. Good for Kweli.. hopefully he'll make a decent showing on the Billboard chart.

[Beer-Belly]

Apparently MF Doom doesn't mind taking a shit on his fans.
MF DOOM Fucks SF?: WTF Went Down, Bay Area?
Thu Aug 16, 2007 at 12:55:34 PM
We just got this email:

People who may care-
Last night MF Doom gave a big F-you to fans in San Francisco. After
keeping us waiting for over an hour between opener Pigeon John (on top
of making us endure P.J.'s pathetic performance), Doom walks on stage
with two cronies, *lipsyncs* four songs, then walks out without
uttering a single word to the bewildered audience.

Upset fans stood in front of the stage for a good 15 minutes chanting
everything from "refund, refund" to "lipsync, lipsync". Super-fans
refused to believe it was true. Others claimed that the man behind
the mask was an impostor.

His performance wasn't even as good as a bad Milli Vanilli concert.
We were absolutely stunned, as were those who ran the venue, The
Independent. I talked to the manager last night, who was livid but
unhelpful, and to one of their employees today on the phone. They are
in touch with the promoter, presumably trying to get their money back
before issuing refunds to the disappointed crowd.

Thought you'd like to know


Thanks, Dave.

Is this true? We know MF Doom has been sucking live, but this would be a new low, and right before rock the bells! Let us know! The most revealing comment will get a five pack of CDs from the office. -d2

MF DOOM Fucks SF?: WTF Went Down, Bay Area? Pt. 2
Fri Aug 17, 2007 at 09:59:03 AM
Damn, MF Doom really screwed up from the sound of things. Here's another complaint out his show this past week, this one from Joshua in Roseville.

"Someone should write something up about the MF DOOM show last night at The Independent. I drove from Roseville (past Sacramento) to see the show and the guy waits over an hour after Pigeon John played to come out and play only 16 minutes and then walk off the stage and leave! The crowd was PISSED!! The anger in the room was amazing. It could have been a riot in there! The promoter came out and apologized up and down and said that he was just as mad as everyone else. Rumor is that he felt the crowd wasn't "into it" so he left! I guess you have to scream while throwing your arms in the air the whole set to boost this guys fuckin' ego. I love MF Doom's music but that shit he pulled last night was disgusting!! There should be a write up in the weekly about this shit!"

What happened? MF Doom meltdown? :(
I'm glad I didn't miss Wu-Tang for this non-sense. I can't imagine why Doom would do this to his fan base. If you really need to get out of a gig (or an entire tour) then at least have the decency to cancel.

[Stringer Bell]

Meh.. I haven't even read that article, almost don't want to. Glad you saw the legends, bro :yes:

[Deka]

Anybody else heard the Young Jeezy presents U.S.D.A. album? If so, what do you guys think of it? I really do like the album. There are some songs that I just don't care for at all. But, overall, I think they made a pretty damn good group album. I think that the promotion and chose of singles was done horribly, but the album itself is really nice.

I'd rate each song for best to worst like this (#1 being the best):

1. Corporate Thuggin'
2. Throw This Money
3. Ride Tonight
4. Focus
5. Check
6. Get It Up
7. Go Getta (Remix)
8. Respect Da Shield
9. White Girl
10. What It Is
11. Live My Life
12. I Keep Tellin' Myself
13. Quickie
14. Pam

I think they should have done videos for "Ride Tonight" and "Throw This Money". The video for "Corporate Thuggin" is pathetic and brings down the mood of the song. "White Girl" is one of the worst songs on the album yet it was the first single.

[Stringer Bell]

Here's something REAL for ya'lll

CD quality leak of a new Kanye song, "Homecoming" featuring Chris Martin... yeah, the lyrics are old, for you true heads you've heard them before on the excellent OG version, "Home", featuring John Legend. This new version is excellent too, though.

http://www.zshare.net/audio/3346924213625d/

C'mon man, USDA? That shit came out months ago, and the music critics who think Young Jeezy is brilliant didn't even like that album. It's bargain bin bound within months.

On another note -- anyone heard about the ruckus stirred up by Nas being a part of the Virginia Tech Benefit bill? Bill O'Reilly said his usual ignorant shit to begin with (that's the first thing I saw, at least), going as far as to call him "Naz".. I wanted to punch my fucking computer :mad: And of course he picked clips of the most violent possible Nas lyrics to play clips of, one of the songs I've never even heard before. Where's "I Can"? Where's "U and Me", his tribute to his daughter? It's not like Nas would show up and rap any of his violent songs :rolleyes:

However, since then, word has it that seven or more of the families of the deceased have expressed their opinion, and they're pretty darn upset about Nas being on the bill. Which I can understand. I think Nas should, and being the stand-up, grown man he is, pull himself out, simply out of respect for the families. Don't turn it into some stupid "I'll do what I want" tirade again'st O'Reilly. Let Bill O'Reilly have his stupid fun. Be a man Nas, I'll have more respect for you than ever if you pull out on your own. And I'd LOVE to see that concert, I won't even be going now, but that's fine.. I'll have another chance to see Nas someday. I highly doubt he's going to be there at this point, but I just really hope he pulls out HIMSELF and makes a point to comment on it out of respect..

[spanish announce table]

What do you guys think of Madvillainy? I got it over the weekend, and its a fun album. My favorite tracks are Accordion, Slickfit, Money Folder, and Strange Ways.

[Hack]

What do you guys think of Madvillainy? I got it over the weekend, and its a fun album. My favorite tracks are Accordion, Slickfit, Money Folder, and Strange Ways.


It's only one of the best 3 or 4 hip-hop albums of the last decade! Well, that's my two cents ... others probably don't rate it quite as high.

I love that disc. MF Doom and Madlib are two guys who I support whenever possible and they never disappoint.

[Stringer Bell]

It's definitely an amazing record, it's incredibly ground-breaking and opened up a LOT of doors for both guys. I love it, not quite as much as Hack though :p I have a strong feeling Madvillainy 2 is going to blow us away on some whole other shit...

I really love just about the whole album, but "Fancy Clown" really stands out to me for some reason. I just wish it was a few minutes longer. And of course "America's Most Blunted" is golden.

Any thoughts on the Nas/VT situation?

[Deka]

C'mon man, USDA? That shit came out months ago, and the music critics who think Young Jeezy is brilliant didn't even like that album. It's bargain bin bound within months.

Yeah. I know when it came out. I still enjoy alot of the songs from it. I could care less about "the critics who think Young Jeezy is brilliant", I'm just posting my personal thoughts on the album. I like it. There are no spectacular rhymes or any song themes that make you think deeper or anything, it's just feel-good music. For the most part, it's filled with drug-lingo, so people involved in or enthralled by that lifestyle would probably be the ones most captivated by the album. That's not why I like it. I think alot of the instrumentals are phenomenal, the lyrics, while piss-poor, are unarguably catchy and "sing-along'ish" and each member of the group gives off an entirely different vibe with their individual voices and flow. I'm not telling you or anybody else to even give it a listen. I'm not telling you or anybody else to that this better than any artists who are clearly more talented than these three. I'm just saying I like the album (most of it). But, thanks for the feedback.

[Stringer Bell]

Anyway...............


The Kanye retail leaked today. It's amazing. If you like it, buy it on September 11th. 50 Cent does not deserve to sell more records than 'Yeezy.

Went out and bought Aesop Rock's new album yesterday, along with the new El-P record from February (yeah, late pass). Both are awesome albums, I wouldn't say they're my favorites of the year, but they sure are excellent and worth every penny...

Went and bought the new Oh No album today cause I couldn't stand listening to the 40:00 single track mp3, and mostly because Oh No's the fucking boy. I just ripped it, so I can upload that for you later tonight RIJ and anyone else who wants it.

[spanish announce table]

http://thedicegame.blogspot.com/

This site has the clean version of Graduation, along with UGK, Ice Water, BCC, and Killah Priest.

[Stringer Bell]

Fuck the clean version! :D

I finally tracked down Killah Priest today too, shockingly. It was $15.99 though and I was low on cash, so I grabbed the cheaper Oh No album and put Priest on hold since they only had 2 copies and it's the only store in town that has it period..

[RuneEdge]

Liked Curtis more than Graduation so far. Havent been through all of them though.

[Stringer Bell]

Are you serious? I mean, I haven't heard 50's album, but come the fuck on. I didn't even know it leaked, that's the definition of "not checking for" someone. Are you listening to the snippets on those foreign websites or do you actually have both albums in CD quality? Kanye West, and this album, is the future of music, period. 50 Cent will be a small blip in the history books, one would hope.

Something like "the guy who came out, flopped, then saw an easy chance to capitalize on another rapper's weak material, that of Ja Rule. 50's main use of ammunition during this feud was making fun of and imitating Ja Rule's "singing" and "soft" hooks and songs. Subsequently, he signed with one of the most famous producers in the rap world and aligned himself with popular rapper Eminem. He then engaged in a heated rivalry with Ja Rule and his underlings, which didn't lead to much at all except Ja Rule's popularity declining and some decent disses from 50, Eminem, and company. 50's debut on Aftermath came out somewhere around this time, and sold unlike any rap record that was recently released. This started the "50 mania", you could call it. For a while, 50 maintained his status as a credible, listenable artist who made good, but not groundbreaking, hip-hop. Somewhere along the line, and quite ironically, 50 began to adopt the exact same quality he once criticized his rival Ja Rule of. He embraced the sing-song, horrible attempt at singing shit that we've come to expect from rappers now. On top of that, he or whoever managers his laughable career, decided it would be better for him to go for a more mainstream, radio demographic. Instead of making an effort to put out quality music like a few artists (errm.. Kanye), 50 focuses strictly on appealing to the mainstream and selling records, which he doesn't seem to be very good at. Is there any more obvious example than him pulling and borderline-denying the existence of the horrible "Amusement Park" AKA "Candy Shop 2"? That song had radio written all over it, and still bombed. No one cared. Now he's made his last-ditch effort and pulling in record buyers, making his new single "Follow My Lead" with the current hot R&B singer of the moment, Robin Thicke".


Ugh, I wrote a little more than I wanted to there. Gave me a horrible headache just thinking of 50's decline, not that he was ever anything truly amazing. Still, I'm honestly shocked to see someone say Curtis is better than Graduation. I think if 50 sells more records than Kanye, I will move out of this fucked up country :p

[QuietStorm]

I think if 50 sells more records than Kanye, I will move out of this fucked up country :p
To South Carolina?

[Stringer Bell]

I listened to the 50 album, albeit the clean version. I'm pretty sure that's the only thing available....

Makes quite a bit of difference with it being edited :lol: Nearly half of 50's lyrics are blank, and that's not exaggeration. It doesn't even say words like "shot", it's almost not worth listening to. However, I will say, the first 2 tracks sounded surprisingly dope. Everything else sounded pretty stagnant, other than maybe 1 or 2 songs I can't recall. This is not a good album... :no:

After that, I went back and listened to some Get Rich or Die Trying tracks. Now THAT'S some good stuff. Nothing groundbreaking, nothing amazing, but it's just hard shit. "P.I.M.P." is pretty horrible, and "21 Questions" is corny, but I can't deny it -- GRODT has a lot of bangers. "What Up Gangsta", "Many Men", and "Heat" are all great tracks...

Then I listened to some G-Unit stuff, Beg For Mercy or whatever their albums was called, and a few mixtapes. That was pretty hard to stomach, but Banks did used to spit some witty shit a few years ago. What the hell happened to that guy?

As far as my favorite 50 material, I guess it's Guess Who's Back or Power of the Dollar. I think people hype up Power too much.. it's some of 50's best lyrical stuff, but maybe it's just me, GWB has a lot more bangers.

But F this 50 talk. Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaanye West's album is on the internet! September 11th bitches!!!

Talib Kweli debuted at #2 on the Billboard!!! Props to anyone here who actually bought that, record labels are going to have to start taking notice. Common #1 one week off of "The People", which hasn't even popped off that much that I've heard, and Talib gets #2 with "Hot Thing". Awesome. I have very little doubt that Fif will sell more than Kanye.

BUY IT!~!~!~!~ :mad: :( :) :beer:

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

I ain't listened to the version of Curtis I have downloaded. Bloody hope it ain't all censored. GRODT was sick in terms of music for your car or to work out to, "Poor Lil Rich" to add to the ones Buck listed.

Power of the Dollar and Guess Who's Back were pretty good though mayyyyn... MURDER MURDER YA LIFE'S ON THE LINE

Now I have a lot more time for Kanye. Diamonds was an absolute MONSTER shame it kind of got overshadowed by Golddigger.

[Morrison]

I'm really digging Graduation album so far.

One irk that I have right off the bat is his flow over the first two verses or so on 'I Wonder.' The constant breaking annoys the hell out of me. But when he finally goes into, the song is beautiful.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

Link?

[skulldice]

:zzz: on both of them.

Love how Eminem intentionally cuts a weak verse and still shits on everything Curtis did in the entire album.

[Stringer Bell]

50's album is truly horrible. "Ayo Technology" and "I Get Money" might be the best songs on the whole thing, amazingly.

Also, Swizz Beatz album is surprisingly tolerable. Nothing above average, I'd say 2.5/5 is pretty generous. Lyrically, it's pretty abysmal, but it's got a lot of fun, bouncy shit, it especially sounds nice in a good car system. I really like his track with Chris Martin too. Jay, Kanye, and Swizz have all made great songs with Chris...

[Hack]

So over the last few days, I've pulled out two CDs I hadn't listened to since the first few weeks after I first bought them: Kingdom Come and Idlewild.

On my fresh listen, it became crystal clear just how bad Kingdom Come was/is. The intro is tight, sure, and there are maybe two or three other songs that are above average, but everything else is just shit.

On the flip side, listening to Idlewild again was a lot of fun. I still think a lot of Big Boi's songs were awful, but Andre's material still just blows me away. How can so many hip-hop heads not see the undeniable creativity coming from that man? He's actually TRYING SOME NEW SHIT and it's refreshing to hear, even a year or so after the album dropped.

And I'm sorry, but it's hard for me to care about the new Kanye. I'll check it out, since College Dropout was a classic and about half of Late Registration was greatness, but both single I've heard from the new disc have sucked BALLS.

[Matthew]

You have to watch the Zach Galifianckis version of the 'You Can't Tell Me Nuthin'" song. Then you will like it more.

[Adamy]

Ya boy Will Oldham is in it, too.

This is also really strange trend in rap music: getting another rapper to hang out during your video. Rick Ross is in, like, ten videos now.

[skulldice]

Graduation has no replay value. It gives me a headache with all the soft lyrics, and the nauseating production. Curtis is mostly garbage..but..

I'm listening to "Curtis 187" more than anything between the two. Neither of the albums approach 3 mics.

[Matthew]

Ya boy Will Oldham is in it, too.

This is also really strange trend in rap music: getting another rapper to hang out during your video. Rick Ross is in, like, ten videos now.All about the street cred.


Graduation has no replay value. It gives me a headache with all the soft lyrics, and the nauseating production. Curtis is mostly garbage..but..

I'm listening to "Curtis 187" more than anything between the two. Neither of the albums approach 3 mics.:panic:

[Stringer Bell]

:dead:

[skulldice]

:dead:

Graduation is trash dude. I'm not the only one who holds this opinion. Curtis is trash too. Check out hip hop sites. I agree with the sentiment of "both albums suck".

Curtis 187 is the only real banger on either album. "Cant Tell Me Nothing" is weak.

[Matthew]

Having people agree with you doesn't mean you are automatically right.

[skulldice]

I took you off ignore to see what you had to say...:zzz:...and I regret it. Back you go.

I've listened to both albums through twice. Kanye has some nice production tracks, mostly that annoying style he always uses which was only tolerable on "Blueprint". Curtis? Mostly boring, except Curtis 187 and Timberlake/Timbaland.

"Big Brother" was funny. I hope Jay disses that soft Nas/Puff Daddy hybrid

[Matthew]

Funny thing is, I never said either of them were good, I haven't even listened to them. You are just passing your opinion as fact and using other peoples' opinions to back up your 'fact'. Showing your handicaps again. But now I know you can't resist me :wiggle:. Creep.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

anyone got a link to a decent version of Curtis? The two I've downloaded one is silent :wtf: and one has loads of gay jumps in.

The Kanye I got was cd quality first time :dunno:

[Stringer Bell]

I haven't come across a legit version of Curtis yet, just a bunch of webrips. I downloaded a "group rip" this morning, but it doesn't seem to be legit. I don't really care at this point, but I'm sure I could sell a few copies to idiots around town.

Kanye's album is fucking excellent. :yes: :yes: :yes: :D :D :beer:


PS: skulldice, aren't you the guy who lists Necro as one of his favorite/best MC's? I'm pretty sure that's you. You have no room to hate on the Kanye album, homie...

[QuietStorm]

Well, I don't really see what is so excellent about the Kanye album after listening to it twice. It's alright, I guess. I still prefer College Dropout to anything he has done since.

[Mr. Boombastic]

Well of course, College Dropout was a classic.

[Stringer Bell]

http://rs167.rapidshare.com/files/53439607/Cincuenta_Centavos-Curtisitos-_Mucho_Explicit_-2007.rar


Group rip of the 50 for anyone that might want it..