Hip Hop Discussion/Album Review Thread.

[Stringer Bell]

Listening to some of it now... I don't like the sound of "Problem" and "Fall Out". Doesn't Meth realize the main reason his last album got so much hate was the wack ass beat selection?

Still, there's some good stuff on here. Definitely better than Tical 0, but the two songs I mentioned sound straight from that album..


No one else has grabbed this yet?

The Intro, Is It Me, Dirty Mef, The Glide, Say, Konichiwa Bitches, Everything, Walk On, and Presidential MC are all dope songs... Somebody Done Fucked Up, Got To Have It, and 4:20 are all decent too. Still think "Problem" and "Fall Out" are horrible, and the R&B tracks were expected, but this is a damn good album... really nice production for the most part.

[spanish announce table]

Buck, you've saved me at least $100 this summer. Downloading this right now.

[spanish announce table]

This album bangs. 'Problem' isnt that bad. The beat isnt bad, its just paint-by-the-numbers Sermon. Where the fuck is the Def Jam promotion for this? This comes out in a week and a half, and if I didnt have the internet, I would have no clue about this. I'll support Meth and buy this if/when it comes out. I'd say this is better than Masta Killa and Deck, but about equal with Ghost.

[Adamy]

One of New York's most lyrical MC's with one of the most overrated gimmick rappers from the south? Ugh..

What exactly is Young Jeezy's "gimmick?"

[Stringer Bell]

Almost all of his songs have the exact same content.. usually heavily drug related, with loads of "trap" references. Also, the whole "YEAAHHHHH!", "THAT'S RIIIIGHT!" and shit he does after random lines is pretty gimmicky.

Yeah, I don't know what the deal is with Def Jam promoting the Meth album. Is there a video for "Say" or anything? You'd think Jay wouldn't miss the boat here.. the Wu is back hard and he isn't even trying to capitalize.

[Stringer Bell]

Hack, I still wanna know what you think of the new Kast and Method Man...

I'm warming up to the Outkast, but it's not really getting much rotation or anything. It's.. decent. On a similar note, I miss Soul Food style Cee-Lo.

Meth is definitely solid. More than half of the album is dope, and the rest is half filler, half average..

This thread is dead these days.

[TRO]

Maybe it is dead. But I was just going to come in here, and say maybe it's time we have a serious discussion about DJ Danger Mouse. I mean, in the years since the Grey Album hit in late 2003, the guy has been responsible for at least 4 of the top 50 (maybe 25) rap albums... St. Elsewhere, The Mouse and the Mask, Demon Days, The Grey Album, and that's not even counting the Gemini work or his mixtapes. What is it about the Mouse that is so alluring? The clean, crisp beats? Brilliant samples? Has he had a run of luck with the quality of his collaborators? Is it too early to call him one of the best producers in the game? Am I overrating his work?

I don't know, something about his beats just clicks with me, like he's doing rap that sounds good in your studio headphones or on the crappy radio station in your car...

[spanish announce table]

Janelle Monae is the highlight of the Kast album for me. Call The Law & In Your Dreams are awesome tracks, and she's all over them.

[MervKlitschko]

Hack, I still wanna know what you think of the new Kast and Method Man...

I'm warming up to the Outkast, but it's not really getting much rotation or anything. It's.. decent. On a similar note, I miss Soul Food style Cee-Lo.

Meth is definitely solid. More than half of the album is dope, and the rest is half filler, half average..

This thread is dead these days.

want me to start listing more No Limit Albums??

I found my Mo B. Dick bomb..... absolute classic worthy of being on everyones top ten list.

[Stringer Bell]

Nah, I'd rather the thread be dead :)

[QuietStorm]

The Glue album is a banger from top to bottom. Of course it isn't out until September 19 so consider this a heads-up.

[Hack]

Maybe it is dead. But I was just going to come in here, and say maybe it's time we have a serious discussion about DJ Danger Mouse. I mean, in the years since the Grey Album hit in late 2003, the guy has been responsible for at least 4 of the top 50 (maybe 25) rap albums... St. Elsewhere, The Mouse and the Mask, Demon Days, The Grey Album, and that's not even counting the Gemini work or his mixtapes. What is it about the Mouse that is so alluring? The clean, crisp beats? Brilliant samples? Has he had a run of luck with the quality of his collaborators? Is it too early to call him one of the best producers in the game? Am I overrating his work?

I don't know, something about his beats just clicks with me, like he's doing rap that sounds good in your studio headphones or on the crappy radio station in your car...



Man, I'm sorry I never commented, but I totally agree. Danger Mouse is as consistent a producer as you can find these days. The album with Jemini still doesn't get enough love. It's the best album he's done, probably.

[TRO]

So maybe I should buy it and learn how to spell it correctly, huh. Today I found:

MM.. Food - $4.25
Cut Chemist - The Audience is Listening - $6
Prefuse 73 - One Word Extinguisher - $8.50
Handsome Boy Modelblahblah - How's Your Girl - $4.25
Deltron 3030 - $8.50

Plus some Ted Leo scuffs. Used cds is so great. :heart:

[Stringer Bell]

MM.. Food for $4.25 is a REALLY nice pick-up.. it's out of print and I can't find it anywhere around here. One week it was in the used bins, now it's nowhere to be seen.

[TRO]

I know, I was surprised to find it. I think they stopped issuing copies because Marvel comics is suing over the Dr. Doom likeness...

[Fro]

Man, this thread really is slumping, so here's my 2 cents. I don't have a whole lot of time to listen to music these days, so it takes me a while to give proper listens to all the new albums. But over the past week I've done a lot of catching up, and let me just say that hip hop is soaring right now. Between Feedback, Game Theory, The Shining, Idlewild, and to a lesser extent 4:21 and Second Round's On Me, I feel like there's a surplus of quality new rap to listen to. It's a good thing. :D

[Stringer Bell]

I need to get my ass to the record store and buy Game Theory..

[Fro]

Yea, that album keeps getting better every time I listen to it.

[Morrison]

I'm really enjoying this new Meth. Tried listening to Tical 0 a few weeks ago for the first time and couldn't get past the first few songs. I am really digging 4:21, however.

Also picked up the new Roots and Masta Killa, so I've got my hands full.

[Restiform]

So maybe I should buy it and learn how to spell it correctly, huh. Today I found:

MM.. Food - $4.25
Cut Chemist - The Audience is Listening - $6
Prefuse 73 - One Word Extinguisher - $8.50
Handsome Boy Modelblahblah - How's Your Girl - $4.25
Deltron 3030 - $8.50

Plus some Ted Leo scuffs. Used cds is so great. :heart:

Nice purchases. Great stuff there.

I plan on checking out the new Roots album, heard it was good. Lately though, I've been listening to Cosmic Cleavage and Memoirs of the Elephant Man by Busdriver. Fun to listen to I think he's great.

[TRO]

The new Roots is fucking great. Like I said a while ago in this thread, I wish Busdriver drove my bus. Kiiiiids... If you really want to piss of your parents... Take an interest in the arts... :heart:


FYI Buck, the Last Emporer mixtape, Hidden Treasures, that someone posted at thecrypt is sooo dope. I'm really hyped for his next album. The track with RZA is off the charts, and there are a lot of other highlights. Plus he subtly disses Interscope and Snoop, so I'm curious to hear what the fuck happened when he signed with Dre or whatever... He just kind of disappeared for a while there...

[spanish announce table]

I'm 10 years late, but Killarmy's "Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars" is one of the best produced albums I've ever heard. 4th Disciple did a masterful job on this album. What other producer can flip the theme song from MASH and make it sound dope?

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah man, that's a dope album.. I liked the follow-up a lot too. Silent Weapons, the first Sunz of Man album, and Killah Priest's Heavy Mental are my favorite Wu off-shoots, period.

[Fro]

Speaking of old Wu....

I was just browsing HipHopSite.com and noticed that they're now selling GZA's Words From the Genius. I've always heard about this pre-Wu offering from GZA but have never seen or listened to it. Any good? I'm intrigued to know what it's like.

[spanish announce table]

Words From The Genius is the only solo album I havent heard from the clan members. 'Pass The Bone' and 'Come Do Me' are fun tracks, but they're not on the level of his later work.

New Outerspace 'Blood Brothers' is dope as hell. Gave it one listen so far, and its a consistent banger.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

Talib Kweli is playing near(ish) to me next week (14/09/06)

Tempted to go but it's not the sort of thing many of my mates are in to. Anyone seen him live??

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Recently got a few new albums:

Roots - :heart: :heart: :heart: :yes: :yes:

Masta Killa - :yes: :yes: :yes:

J-Dilla - :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

Oh No - :yes: :yes: :yes: :heart:

PackFM - :yes: :yes: :yes: :heart:

Strange rating system right there...

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Oh and next pick ups would have to be Talib and Mos Def...

[TRO]

Black Star is a good album. :beer: :beer: :beer: :yes: :no:

[QuietStorm]

Reflection Eternal is a better album. More Talib, less Mos Def is always a good thing in my view.


Edit: The new Bad Neighbors album is fabulous.

[Morrison]

Talib Kweli is playing near(ish) to me next week (14/09/06)

Tempted to go but it's not the sort of thing many of my mates are in to. Anyone seen him live??

Yeah, I saw him months back, before I was heavy into his solo stuff, and still thought he brought the goods.

[Morrison]

Reflection Eternal is a better album. More Talib, less Mos Def is always a good thing in my view.


Edit: The new Bad Neighbors album is fabulous.

Boo.

[TRO]

They're both great, if inconsistent, but I like Mos Def better. It's funny how Black on Both Sides is better than any Kweli album, and The New Danger is worse than any Kweli album.

[Morrison]

I like The New Danger...

[TRO]

Cause you're dumb?

[Fro]

The New Danger aint that bad. It's a shame Mos did the whole rock thing, but there's still some quality tracks on there. Close Edge, Sunshine, The Rape Over and Ghetto Rock to name a few. I'm not saying it's in the league of the previously mentioned albums, but it's listenable.

[TRO]

I agree, I'm just kidding around. Anything Mos did after BOBS would have to be considered a letdown... It's still worse than anything Kweli has put out, though.

[Morrison]

Sex, Love & Money, bitches.

[Hack]

Pop my trunk. Pop my, pop my. Pop my trunk. Pop my trunk.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Hip Hop and rap and such guys, we need your input on the artists/groups polls thing in that sticky thread at the top of the forum. We're lacking. And you have until Tuesday. Nominate the bigger acts in the genre. Come on!

[Hack]

TRO, do you like the Cut Chemist? That album was really good, I thought.

[TRO]

It's good, a little on the weird side, but good. Some of these rap artists are complete weirdos. He should do an album with Del and Quasi and see what the fuck happens. "Metrorail Thru Space" is in constant replay on my ipod. Actually, both the Chemist album and the J5 album are good listening, hopefully they get back together sometime.

[Hack]

It's good, a little on the weird side, but good. Some of these rap artists are complete weirdos. He should do an album with Del and Quasi and see what the fuck happens. "Metrorail Thru Space" is in constant replay on my ipod. Actually, both the Chemist album and the J5 album are good listening, hopefully they get back together sometime.



Yeah, I feel like he had a lot of fun with it. "What's the Altitude" is my one of my favorite songs of the entire year. And "Spat" is greatness.

[TRO]

And I already nominated a bunch of rap acts; they're just going to lose to Iron Maiden so who cares.

That was a scarily fast response, man, way to ruin my post-script.

[Hack]

My life revolve arounds your posts, TRO. Without your typed words, my life means very little.

Side note: Thanks for suggesting I check out Pete Rock and CL Smooth, Buck. I love this album. Listening to "On and On" now ...

[TRO]

Yeah, I'm great. I finally broke down and downloaded a torrent of the Avalanches album, which I used to own but it disappeared somewhere along the way. Still amazing.

Pete Rock and CL Smooth will lose to Pearl Jam; that's how it works.

[Restiform]

Avalanches are great.

Been in an old school mood lately, so I'm spinnin Tribe's Midnight Marauders right now. I love Low End Theory, but imo this is Tribe's top album.

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah, I'm sure Pink Floyd and Pearl Jam will own the 'P's.. there should be a hip-hop exclusive poll since probably less than 25% of the people voting listen to rap.

Glad you liked the Pete Rock & CL album, Hack. The Main Ingredient is essential too.

Midnight Marauders is perfection. I can never decide between that and Low End Theory, they're both classics in their own right. It's harder than comparing 3 Feet High and De La Is Dead..

[QuietStorm]

Nope.

[QuietStorm]

So the new Jedi Mind Tricks album is all over the internet.

[QuietStorm]

It's a solid album, their best since VBD.


JMT - Serenity In Murder (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=D0943036761FB59F)

Probably my favorite track so far, the production is insane.

[TapOut]

Ludacris' new album is already making the rounds on the net.

God, the beats are amazing.

The lyrical content is tight too. Nothing spectacular, but I think he brings it a little more on this album than he did on Red Light District. He's got some real original stuff here though. He does a rap poetry based on some of Tupac's work. It's really great stuff. Rap music with Soul.

And Buck.. he's got a great track with Redman and Ghostface that might interest you.

I only have 11 tracks, so I don't know if I've got it all or not, but everything I've got so far sounds really, really good. You have to give him credit for his beats alone. He consistently has some of the most unique ones around today.

[Stringer Bell]

I think you've got the advance bootleg that's been around for awhile, unless the retail just recently leaked. "Future Thugs" is cool, but I played it out.

As for the Jedi Mind Tricks, it's SERIOUS. Stoupe came through big time, and Vinnie matured his game on the mic. Almost every track is a banger.. "Put Em In The Grave", "Uncommon Valor", "When All Light Dies", "Serenity In Murder", "Outlive The War", "Gutta Music", and "Black Winter Day" are favorites, but it's all raw as hell. Vinnie impressed me. One of the strongest albums of the year.

Here's a fairly rare gem for you guys from O.C...

O.C. and Buckwild - Burn Me Slow (Remix) (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=8DF0C64023D3DD4D)

[Morrison]

So went out to see 7L and Esoteric and Kool Keith last night. Got to the club, paid to get in, and find out a cancelled hip-hop show from another venue got booked there that night as well. So I come in half-way through Glue's set. Weren't too bad, Akeem is pretty tight on the mic, and the production was killer.

Solillaquists of Sound was next. Really wasn't digging them. A bit pretentious with their whole 'we only speak the truth' bit, but seemed like cool, down to Earth people with a passion for hip-hop. Their MPCeeJay DiViNCi is a maniac, and Swanburger, despite being a hefty thirty-one year old, can fucking b-boy like a motherfucker. He was flying around up there. All in all, they weren't bad, but could have gone without seeing them.

7L and Esoteric finally went on around 11. Again, wasn't bad. Wasn't really into it, because I only know Esoteric from his affiliation with JMT. Speaking of JMT, Outerspace shows up to do 'Gorillas' off The Torture Papers, which was hot.

Now, it's getting late, and I'm getting restless. I expected to be home way early, but because of this dual show crap, everything is running late, and I didn't pay to go in there and not see Kool Keith.

Finally around midnight Kool Keith comes out, doing some Ultramagnetic MC's material before some songs from Dr. Octagon. He does the whole deal with handing thongs out to the girls in the audience and asking them to come up on stage and try them on for the fellas; over the jeans of course. So these three girls get up there and dance around while him and his crew do 'Girl Let Me Touch You There.' Things moved into Black Elvis territory, and it was about there that I headed out, since I was beat and didn't know if I'd miss the train back home.

Definitely hope to see Keith again under better circumstances.

[Stringer Bell]

Where do you live, Morrison? Kool Keith was just here on Thursday, but I had class unfortunately. I didn't hear about 7L and Eso being with him for the show here, but that's even more reason to regret not going.

Del is on the way in October though, followed by Method Man/Saigon.. so I can't really complain.

Here's a catchy track from a local group here in Charlottesville.. they've got things on lock as far as hip-hop goes around here.

The Beetnix - That's My Shit (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=9A68B1510C672A4E)

[Morrison]

Where do you live, Morrison? Kool Keith was just here on Thursday, but I had class unfortunately. I didn't hear about 7L and Eso being with him for the show here, but that's even more reason to regret not going.

Del is on the way in October though, followed by Method Man/Saigon.. so I can't really complain.

Here's a catchy track from a local group here in Charlottesville.. they've got things on lock as far as hip-hop goes around here.

The Beetnix - That's My Shit (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=9A68B1510C672A4E)
I live 45 minutes north of Philadelphia.

[QuietStorm]

A new album that everybody should hear:


http://rapidshare.de/files/23829629/Strange_Fruit_Project-The_Healing-2006-JRP.rar.html

[spanish announce table]

I'm Really liking the new JMT. None of the beats grab you like 'Sacrifice' or 'On the Eve of War', but this is probably the most consistent album they've put together.

Picked up EPMD's 'Business Never Personal'. Straight banger from start to finish that never gets mentioned by anybody.

[Stringer Bell]

I love Buisiness Never Personal. Their first 3 albums are certified classics.

The JMT has been getting a LOT of spins from me too. The tracks with RA The Rugged Man and Sean Price are ridiculous, and I've been bumping "Razorblade Salvation", "Black Winter Day", and "Serenity In Murder" a lot too.

[QuietStorm]

I have yet to say this about any album this year, as it has been reserved for now:

The new Swollen Members is my favorite album of 2006.



Also, sorta not hip hop but here is a link to the new Buddy Wakefield spoken word album. It's a beautiful thing.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/gy0j2g

[.invurzion.]

Trying to get out of my southern rap phase at the moment and rediscovered Goodie Mob and Outkast. I have to say that "Black Ice," "They Don't Dance No Mo'," "Cell Therapy," and of course "In Due Time" are just fucking classic songs. When I listen to "They Don't Dance No Mo'" I can remember the exact time I heard that song and the way I felt.

Pretty awesome feeling. Anyone else have a song they makes you feel that way or reminisce in a way?

Oh ... and recommend some more music to get me out of this Southern Rap/Crunk/Snap Music phase.

And while I'm venting - if I hear that goddamn "Got My Vans On" song one more time ... I'm going to scream. Honestly, where is music going? Vans? "Do Ya Chain Hang Low?" "Chicken Noodle Soup?" You guys ... I've reached my limit on these gimmick songs. Give me some help!

:soapbox: I'm done.

[Stringer Bell]

I love classic 'Kast and Goodie Mob stuff. Soul Food is classssssssic.

But they're the epitome of southern rap bro..

I've been lucky enough to avoid that Vans song.. I've seen it quoted all over the internet, but haven't heard it yet, thankfully. "Chain Hang Low" might be the worst fucking song of the year.

[TRO]

Chicken noodle soup
Chicken noodle soup
Chicken noodle soup
With a soda on the side

[.invurzion.]

I just still can't believe that this song gets played so much on the radio. Amazing.

Anyway, just got a hold of that Jedi Mind Tricks album. :yes: Not a bad listen.

And Buck, I knew that Goodie Mob and Outkast are really the epitome of southern rap, but the music they put out was so classic that it couldn't help but get me out of my mainstream crunk/snap music phase.

[QuietStorm]

Favorite Eminem track: If I Get Locked Up Tonight.


So great.

[TRO]

The Owen Hart line on the JMT album made me laugh. :$

[Stringer Bell]

That Jedi Mind Tricks has been dominating my rotation all week. I mean, Lupe Fiasco's retail finally leaked, and I'm actually a little disappointed with it after hearing the monster that is Servants in Heaven, Kings in Hell. Don't get me wrong, Lupe's album is damn good, and I will be buying it, but after the buzz over the initial leak and all the hype about how it had been re-done, I was a little let down. From strong tracks getting cut, to an over-abundance of R&B-style hooks, it's just not getting that much love from me, especially with the JMT album leaking around the same time.

Also been banging that new Outerspace shit (MAD good!), some of the Swollen Members, the new Skyzoo/9th Wonder stuff, Kenn Starr's album, PackFM of course (buy it!), and Dilla's The Shining still. Just got that Stones Throw Chrome Children album last night too, it's got some nice stuff.

[Adamy]

The Game's new song is hard as fuck. The beat is just bass, snare, and a vocal hook, and there's no chorus.

The video is pretty sick too.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zZcBg4evHR4

[doyoulikepie]

Kno from Cunninlynguists is fast becoming my favourite producer. Just listening to will rap for food and some of the beats are amazing. Will be getting a little piece of strange shortly and cant wait to listen to it.

Has anybody listened to the new bone thugs n harmony album yet. its .... ok. I'm a big Bone Thugs fan but this album, it just wasnt really them. Hopefully the album that they release on Interscope later on in the year will make up for it.

[Fro]

The Game's new song is hard as fuck. The beat is just bass, snare, and a vocal hook, and there's no chorus.

Speaking of Game, this beef with Ras Kass is getting serious. Anyone seen the video Ras put out? I just saw it on hiphopdx and the shit is straight gangsta. They gotta keep this on wax or we're in line for another tragedy.

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.4448

[Stringer Bell]

Haha yeah, what's with Ras Kass hanging out with a bunch of random white dudes? I thought that was kind've humorous. Not that it means anything, I'm white and have plenty of black friends, it's just not what you'd necessarily expect in one of these "me and my crew say fuck you" videos..

So apparently Game hit him in the back of the head with a bottle last week in a club. What I don't understand is why Kass went to the internet... why not just act on it? He's a great emcee, but I don't know what he was thinking here. Copywrite will never be able to escape that connotation of internet rap thug (who got his ass beat), Ras should keep it on wax or on the streets..

[Fro]

I'm really feeling this Lupe album right now.

[Hack]

:yes: That new Game track is pretty good and I don't even like the guy at all.

[QuietStorm]

Joe Budden's diss to Game should have been career-ending. Shame that it never received much attention.

[Stringer Bell]

"Big Shot"? If so, yeah, that song was a monster.. I think it was the Game diss..

[QuietStorm]

Game Over.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

You know we be up in the club like UGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[spanish announce table]

One of the sleeper albums of the year has been Mathematics' "Soul of a Man". He has some of his finest work on here, especially tracks 2, 4, 7, and 12. Makes you wonder why the hell Masta Killa & Ghost used recycled MF Doom beats instead of fresh (and better) Math ones.

[.invurzion.]

:yes: That new Game track is pretty good and I don't even like the guy at all.



Not much of a Game fan, but I loved that beat for some reason. I heard it on Sirius about a month ago on some show on the weekend and they put all types of rapper's lyrics on this beat.

Never knew he used it for a track. Good shit. :yes:

[Adamy]

I like how he has two identical chains that say "The Game."

[Tainted Eclipse]

"Serious" Hip Hop rivalries are so fucking awful.

[Hack]

I'm trying really, really hard to like The Outsider.

It isn't easy ...

[Deranged]

Ahaha the new papoose mixtape owns.

"I run up on ya man with the ruge, then sting him on his chest like the fish did the alligator dude"

:lol:

[Stringer Bell]

Not that it offends me or anything, but that line is flat out corny.

[TRO]

That line is downright awful. Way too many syllables crammed into the second half. Papoose is a nobody.

[QuietStorm]

Deranged WOULD be a Papoose fan....


www.sendspace.com/file/0922sw

Razzy Music - Eat Or Die


That's what's up.

[.invurzion.]

I like how he has two identical chains that say "The Game."


I was honestly thinking the same thing. Wierd.

Oh ... and for you Papoose lovers, here is a decent track that he is on that I actually like produced by Hi-Tek.

"Where It All Started (New York)" - Hi-Tek ft. Jadakiss, Raekwon, Papoose and Talib Kweli. Good Shit. Click here. (http://download.yousendit.com/6BE41AD90951C809)

[QuietStorm]

From me to you:

Bad Neighbors (Mo-B and Only One of the Sandpeople crew) - Armed & Hammered (http://www.sendspace.com/file/52jndq)


Bad Neighbors - The Hate (http://www.sendspace.com/file/ryulej)



Armed & Hammered came out like a week ago, while The Hate was released in the first quarter of 2005. Enjoy.

[TRO]

Sandpeople are so dope. I have Sandpeople Present..., Points of View, and Dry Puddles by Sapient... All good albums. Their production is crazy and the rhymes are the icing on the cake. Can't believe I never heard of them before last year...

[Stringer Bell]

I'll download those.. not familiar with them. Are they Anticon-esque?

That JMT is still dominating my rotation. In the car, on the Ipod, at home. What a monster of an album. I won't get a chance to buy that or Lupe this weekend, but I definitely need to buy both soon. Also Trek Life's album, Price I've Paid, which I finally grabbed.. any of you west coast guys familiar with him? You should check him out..

I'm hyped for the new Sean Price album, the new Nas, and of course Jay-Z. Then there is The Game which will be interesting if nothing else, and definitely some underground stuff I'm forgetting.

By the way, the retail of Ludacris leaked, along with an Alchemist tape (maybe album).

Luda (http://rapidshare.de/files/33970583/RETherapy-2006-UKP.rar)

[QuietStorm]

I'll download those.. not familiar with them. Are they Anticon-esque?
Hahahaha.... no.

Just banging hip hop my friend. No pretension.

[Mista-VEZ]

Joe Budden's diss to Game should have been career-ending. Shame that it never received much attention.


but ya know, joe buddens is like that though. some of his tracks on the mixtapes are fire, but when it came to his album he dropped, i wasnt really feeling most of the songs

the last hot song i hear him come out with was dumb out, and it was like 8 minutes hotness

if anyone needed some good production and beats on their next album, its him. lyrically he has what it takes

[TRO]

Buck, there have been like three Sandpeople threads at that "respect the jooks" site. If anything, they remind me of Wu-Tang... A loose coalition of MCs that come together and make magic...

Also, their live shows kick ass; they're playing another venue here sometime next month, but I'm supposed to work Friday/Saturday nights, and I dunno if I can switch shifts again. Dylan is in town with Kings of Leon, there's an M. Ward show, Cut Chemist + Lyrics Born, JMT and RA the Rugged Man... Way too many to choose from... :happysad:

[Stringer Bell]

Lucky you get to see that JMT and RA show. Outerspace and some others are there too, right? The closest they're coming to me is DC, and I don't think I'm going to make the trip..

However, Dylan's coming to GMU in November.. :drool:

I'll check out the Sandpeople.

[Stringer Bell]

By the way, that Ludacris album is very weak after the first listen. I always defend the guy, he's one of the most consistent southern artists, and up until now even his singles were pretty damn good compared to the other stuff on MTV/BET. I remember waaay back in this thread, some of you guys were arguing with me about his skills (Krispy and Jesus sucks, probably).. I still think "Hip Hop Quotables" was a bannnnger, and there was some other great stuff on that album.

This time around though.. it's just a huge dud. There's like 3 or 4 good tracks out of 14.. what a shame.

[Hack]

I'm digging the Lupe album. I think I could have done without the super long Outro, but that's really my only complaint. :yes: Solid stuff.

Kool Keith tonight. WOOOOOOO!

[Mista-VEZ]

By the way, that Ludacris album is very weak after the first listen. I always defend the guy, he's one of the most consistent southern artists, and up until now even his singles were pretty damn good compared to the other stuff on MTV/BET. I remember waaay back in this thread, some of you guys were arguing with me about his skills (Krispy and Jesus sucks, probably).. I still think "Hip Hop Quotables" was a bannnnger, and there was some other great stuff on that album.

This time around though.. it's just a huge dud. There's like 3 or 4 good tracks out of 14.. what a shame.


I listened to the bootleg a couple months back, and wasnt impressed. i was hoping that there would be some more bangas on the final copy. guess not

not really feeling that new game either(another bootleg), but the copy i got had just 10 tracks so once again, hoping the final product is better

[Eddie Colon]

So, I've been out of the loop a little and so I'd really appreciate it if anyone had Grandmasters and Fishscales sitting around up for download.

:happysad:?

[TapOut]

So, I've been out of the loop a little and so I'd really appreciate it if anyone had Grandmasters and Fishscales sitting around up for download.

:happysad:?

Albumbase.com

[Stringer Bell]

Mista-vez.. those are just that, bootlegs. They're just some random assortment of already released songs that some kid on the internet most likely put together. They're never very similar to the actual album, so it's impossible to judge the album based on one..

[QuietStorm]

New albums by AZ and Tech N9ne come out in November.


Canibus post on C-C:

There are tracks w/ D.R. Period, DJ Premier, Buckwild, Domingo, Scram Jones, & Puerto Roc on the album as well, if that's what you meant Reck.

I will take that as the last strike to fishing for info. I have said much enough. This new shit is better than you ever heard. Shit on my post while the energy in it strangles your ghost. BAR WAR BRO!

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah, AZ should be dope too.

Canibus over Premier and Buckwild beats? :eek:

[Stringer Bell]

I'm still thrilled with the idea of Canibus over Premier production. That's insane.

[QuietStorm]

With the pictures of them together over the summer it was pretty much a given to be happening.

[Stringer Bell]

Sorry for not keeping up on the latest Canibus happenings :p

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Erm. Any really good albums come out recently? Waiting on my Lupe album to come through the post...

Loved the Oh No and J-Dilla albums, they were my last purchases. Looking for something I've not heard of and end up loving. Like when QS recommended stuff like Zion I, Atmosphere, Wordsworth, Masta Ace, etc in the past and came up with the goods!

Don't get much time to come online and keep up to date anymore :-(

[QuietStorm]

I would recommend the new Solillaquists of Sound album. It's called "As If We Existed" and it was released today. Definitely a highly anticipated album in the underworld.

[virms]

When is Dr. Dre's new album due? I keep downloading all these weird new compilations that have me confused. Some damn good songs here and there though.

[QuietStorm]

October of 2003.

[QuietStorm]

Or March of 2034.

[virms]

So somehow I either missed it by 3 years or I got 28 more to go. Shit.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

It's been 'due' and put back for ages. You'd know about it if it was going to drop anytime soon. Which it isn't.

[Brennino]

It should be dropping in the middle to the late of 2007, if that helps anyone.

[Stringer Bell]

Says who? :p

Only Built 4 Cuban Linx 2 is right up there with constant delays, but apparently we'll still be seeing that by the end of 2006.

[Stringer Bell]

New "Crooklyn Dodgers" track on sumish.com. Mos Def, Jean Grae, and Memphis Bleek, with 9th Wonder on the beat. It's a banger.

Some new Hi-Tek songs with Kweli and Nas are on there, too.

[Mista-VEZ]

Mista-vez.. those are just that, bootlegs. They're just some random assortment of already released songs that some kid on the internet most likely put together. They're never very similar to the actual album, so it's impossible to judge the album based on one..


thats what i was thinking, cuz alot of the cuts on these arent on the real albums. Im thinking its just the lead single and some scraps that are left off.

but i cant argue with getting stuff for free, regardless imma listen to it anyway.

[Hack]

Saw DJ Shadow last night :yes:

Great show. I didn't realize how lame Lateef, who opened, was, but it was still a pretty badass show. I think Shadow played parts of almost every track from his first two albums.

[TRO]

I've heard Lateef described as "The worst MC on the planet"... And that was by a serious music journalist...

[Morrison]

But he was so awesome with Lyrics Born...

[TRO]

LB carried the Latyryx album, IMO... Lateef wasn't even included in the best song on that album (Balcony Beach, whaaat)...

[Morrison]

I think Lateef carried his own, though. His sing-song flow was quite enjoyable.

[Hack]

Well he was about as lame as lame gets the other night.

[Stringer Bell]

The new Hi-Tek album is pretty damn good. Just about everyone who you could associate with him drops a verse on the album. There are a few too many R&B hooks for my taste, but the production is really strong.

[spanish announce table]

Is Tek-N-Steele's Reloaded any good? Everyone loves Monkey Barz but nobody says anything about this album.

Song of the moment - 2Pac - If I Die Tonight (Prod. Easy Mo Bee)

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah, it's a good album. Probably my least favorite out of that trio (Reloaded, Monkey Barz, and the Buckshot/9th), but it's still solid BCC stuff, about what you'd expect. The production is nice and it's got guest spots from Kweli and Dead Prez.

http://rapidshare.de/files/18581805/SNWR.rar.html

Skimmed through the newest issue of The Source today, they've gotta nice little feature on Boot Camp Clik classics for heads that aren't familiar with them. Also, I'm sure most of you have heard by now, but XXL gave the upcoming Clipse album a perfect XXL rating, the first of its kind if I remember correctly. I've only heard the singles, which aren't anything mind-blowing, so it should be interesting to see if this lives up to the hype. In the same issue, they gave the horrible new Ludacris a XL, so I'm a bit skeptic.

I really don't mind the new Lloyd Banks album. There's some strong tracks and a lot of good beats. It's exactly what you'd expect from G-Unit, but it's MUCH better than the Tony Yayo and Mobb Deep albums. I am surprised to say it, but I like it more than the new Ludacris.

Also, the new Jay-Z single has hit the net, "Show Me What You Got". Shouldn't have any trouble finding that one. It's usual 1st single stuff from Hov, but the Just Blaze beat really makes it something to talk about!

[Cubed-Sphere]

OMG, the "new" 2pac single is doodie.

They took one of my favorite unreleased tracks, Untouchable, added a Bone Thug (either Layzie or Bizzy, I forget), and still made it sound like crap thanks to Swizz Beats. The beat isn't horrible in and of itself, but it doesn't fit Pac's style or his lyrics used in the song at all.

I don't have a link, but check out westcoastaftershock.com.

[Stringer Bell]

That's been happening for years now..

[spanish announce table]

I finally got around to hearing the 5% Album. There are way too many skits, but for the most part, its solid. "The Corner, the Streets" with Lord Jamar and Grand Puba is a standout.

Much props on the Reloaded joint :yes: Whats the password to extract the files?

[spanish announce table]

Must return the favor

IRS (from Canada) feat Planet Asia - No Hesitation
http://www.yousendit.com/download/OgfaDApoz4M%3D

Remedy feat RZA & Cilvaringz
http://www.yousendit.com/download/OgcOjNm8oxM%3D

Sean Price - 60 Bar Dash
http://www.yousendit.com/download/OgcOjBIO4oA%3D

[Cubed-Sphere]

That's been happening for years now..

Well, since LTTG in 2004. I thought everything up through Better Dayz had been handled at least adequately, if not amazingly.

I'm sure you'd disagree, but that's my opinion. Loyal To The Game was the first posthumous Pac cd I shat on, and even though this first single isn't a good sign, I hope LTTG stays alone as the only one I despise.

[Stringer Bell]

Didn't know it had a password SAT, try http://rapidshare.de/files/17464070/Reloaded.rar or http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SBQ26DPN

[doyoulikepie]

OMG, the "new" 2pac single is doodie.

They took one of my favorite unreleased tracks, Untouchable, added a Bone Thug (either Layzie or Bizzy, I forget), and still made it sound like crap thanks to Swizz Beats. The beat isn't horrible in and of itself, but it doesn't fit Pac's style or his lyrics used in the song at all.

I don't have a link, but check out westcoastaftershock.com.

Its Krayzie. If you want to listen to the single you can get it from btnhboard.com

[Adamy]

"It's OK (One Blood)" and "Hustlin" are still the best songs I've heard all year.

[Hack]

Am I the only person on Earth who has heard "Pop My Trunk"? Why is that song not being talked about throughout this world?

[Dan The Man]

I have not heard it.

I did hear the M.I.A. song that went out this morning and made an obscure reference to it in the Questions thread which obviously no one would get because the song has been available for human consuption for like ten hours.

I don't even know if M.I.A. stuff goes here. We need a full-on M.I.A. thread.

[Hack]

It's about popping one's trunk. I can't tell if it's actually good overblown mainstream rap ("What You Know," "Stay Fly," you get my drift) or bad overblown mainstream rap, because I've really only heard it like three times and each time it was almost over, but it got stuck in my head.

[Adamy]

I assume it's by someone from Houston?

[Hack]

Wine-O.

How about we all download it and compare notes. It is on iTunes.

[Adamy]

ahahahahaha

www.myspace.com/gotwineo

[Hack]

I told you guys it was the fucking best thing you'll ever hear.

[Dan The Man]

I got a straw in my styrofoam white cup.

[.invurzion.]

Just listened to that Hi-Tek album and I have to say that the shit is just smooth all the way through. Beats are just on point and even the little bit with his son "I Think I Got A Beat" has a unique beat to it. :yes: Good listen.

Also, reluctantly, listened to the Lloyd Banks album [i]Rotten Apple[i] and I have to say that I'm dissappointed. Ok, not really, but it's definitely not an album that I would really buy.

Now that Hi-Tek ... I'm copping that on Friday just to have it.

Anything else I should be listening to?

[Cubed-Sphere]

^ Gym Class Heroes, perhaps, the latest cd "As Cruel As School Children" is pretty good. I love how these guys can rap and rock, and do both so well. Nothing like that rap/rock shit in the vein of Kid Rock and Limp Bizkit.

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah, Hi-Tek's album is nice. I really like that track with Kurupt and Q-Tip, among others. I'll be buying that soon. Other good stuff to check for is Wade Waters "Dark Water" album, also the albums from Main Flow & 7L and Zion I & The Grouch are good listens.

Check out the new Jay-Z song "Kingdom Come", the new Snoop single featuring R Kelly, and other stuff @ sumish.com (http://www.sumish.com).

[Adamy]

^ Gym Class Heroes, perhaps, the latest cd "As Cruel As School Children" is pretty good. I love how these guys can rap and rock, and do both so well. Nothing like that rap/rock shit in the vein of Kid Rock and Limp Bizkit.

My old band opened for them once. They were pretty good. I liked that song that has all the emo bands' names in it.

[spanish announce table]

Xzibit - Full Circle

1. Invade My Space feat Jelly Roll - I'm not a huge fan of JR, but his beat and hook are decent here. X's rhymes are solid as usual. 7.5/10

2. Rolling feat Jelly Roll - The guitar beat is ok, but it picks up when the piano kicks in. Subject matter doesnt differ much from the opener. 7.5/10

3. Ram Part Division - X raps from the perspective of a cop, but does it through a walkie-talkie voice distortion effect. Good concept for a track, but the execution was a bit off. 6.5/10

4. Say it to My Face feat Kurupt & Don Blaze - Kurupt plays the shit-talker role, but he would have sounded dope over this dark beat. X sounds like he's rapping through his teeth. 7.5/10

5. Donnel Rawlings Skit - Spoof of Maury Povich, but with Donnell and X, you know this is going to be funny.

6. Scandalous Bitch - The standard 'fucking bitches' track on every X album, but he flips it into a good story. The flute sample is a nice touch to the beat. 7/10

7. Concentrate - The beat is a rip of Busta's Touch It. X's flow is pretty elementary here, but its catchy as hell and a good choice for a first single. 7/10

8. On Bail feat Daz, The Game, & T-Pain - I seriously hate T-Pain. Daz opens up with a good verse, but X steals this one. Game mentions Pac a bunch of times. 7.5/10

9. Family Values - X shouts out his girl on a nice violin beat. Stand-out line: "Before I devote the rest of my life/ can you at least show a nigga you can boil some rice". 7.5/10

10. Black & Brown feat Jelly Roll - X talks about the division between Blacks and Latinos in LA over a smoothed-out beat. Definitely a stand-out track. 8.5/10

11. The Whole World - It took a while for me to get into this beat, but the stuttering piano is definitely catchy. Another strong contribution. 8/10

12. Poppin' Off feat DJ Quik & King T - Nothing ground-breaking, just a fun track. 7.5/10

13. Moving in you Chucks feat Too Short & Kurupt - Not feeling this beat at all. Kurupt's verse is ok but X closes it out strongly. 6.5/10

14. Thank You - Beautiful track. This is on the level of 'Sorry I'm Away So Much' and 'The Foundation'. Go find his performance on Letterman. 10/10

Overall, this is a solid effort that is consistent the whole way through. WMD and MVM werent bad albums, but this is a more well rounded and concise album. 7.5/10

[Stringer Bell]

So I saw Del The Funkee Homosapien, Mike Relm, and Bukue something tonight. Really good show, Del was dope as expected but it was Mike Relm that really impressed me. You west coast guys familiar with him? He's this Asian cat who dresses in a tux, DJ's and has this projector set up with dope visuals that go along with what he's spinning. At this one point he had a clip of someone punching someone, and it kept rewinding and playing as he scratched the record back and forth, and he ended up doing it rapidly by the end. Awesome stuff, you gotta see this guy... he had everything in his set, from Rakim and Jay-Z to Led Zeppelin and Rage Against The Machine. He also rocked an RJD2 joint, "Ghostwriter" I believe.

Del did all his classic shit, even some songs I'm not familiar with because I don't know his entire catalogue, but I think some of the stuff was from his new album. He did "At The Helm", "Thank Youse", "Mistadobalina", some Deltron joints, A Plus rocked some stuff.. It was a hell of a show. The vibe was nice and chill, I usually go early to get up front for shows but I just chilled back for this one.

Anyway, hell of a show. The first real show I've been to since seeing Ghost in April, so it was nice. Method Man, Inspectah Deck, Masta Killa, and Saigon are all coming here on the 30th! :D

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

Anyone fancy linking me to the new Banks, Xzibit or Game? Not up to date and what's leaked and what ain't.

I agree w/ Buck most posthumous Pac stuff has been pretty crap, but Until the End of Time is actually one of my favourite albums of any kind or genre. So it can be done decently.

I think it all went to shit when they started involving Eminem.

[Ricky]

Anyone have Release Therapy? It seems like all of the torrents are edited.

[Hack]

Doctor Who Dat?, from the samples I heard on iTunes, sounds pretty fucking awesome.

Anybody know him? It sounds very MF Doom-esque, as lame as that actually looks when you type it out. Very chill, not much showing off. :yes:

[Stringer Bell]

I'm no Lil Wayne fan, and I can hardly stand Baby, but their new CD is SERIOUS for car stereos. I'm sure I'll only listen to it once or twice, but damn that thing has some bass.

[spanish announce table]

Finally heard the new K-Os. Upon one listen, its a bit disappointing, but with his style of music you have to let it grow on you. There are some definite standouts, but nothing on the level of Emcee Murdah, or Commandante.

[QuietStorm]

I haven't been up on much recently because it's too difficult of a task taking the Lupe Fiasco album out of the player.


I dedicate my 6,000th post to Food & Liquor.

[Stringer Bell]

Birdman and Lil Weezy... why am I not suprised?

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/971/ewir6.jpg

The best part is everyone's reaction around them haha.. dude to the right looks straight up disgusted, and everyone else doesn't know quite what to think.

[Ricky]

It's not working.

Anyone have Release Therapy?

[spanish announce table]

"Grew Up a Screw Up" is friggin awesome (barring Jeezy)

[Stringer Bell]

Image from earlier..

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h246/DJ-SELECT/ew.jpg

[Fro]

LOL.

Finally got a chance to give the new Hi-Tek some good listens, and that is a really solid effort. The Busta Rhymes solo track is my fave.

[Dan The Man]

Image from earlier..

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h246/DJ-SELECT/ew.jpg

With the whole father/son thing they've been doing, does this count as incest as well?

[Adamy]

Speaking of Wayne Carter and Baby, I always thought a really funny idea for a movie would be if there was a young black kid that wanted to go to private high school and then on to college, but his dad insisted that he be a rapper.

[Stringer Bell]

From the deep classic gallery of Pen & Pixel album covers, I bring to you this forgotten masterpiece...

http://thehyena.net/images/rap_bigbearthumb.jpg

[QuietStorm]

Haha, never seen that one before. Fantastic.


Anyway, while I am still talking about the Lupe Fiasco album.... here is my ideal tracklisting to make it a PERFECT album.


Download both the retail version (after you buy it of course) and the leaked version....

And then put it together like this this.

1. Intro
2. Real
3. Just Might Be OK
4. Kick, Push
5. Spaz Out (from leaked version)
6. I Gotcha
7. Instrumental
8. He Say She Say
9. Sunshine
10. Make Sure (on leaked copy, should have been left on)
11. Daydreamin'
12. The Cool
13. Hurt Me Soul
14. Hustlaz Song (good track that was album-worthy)
15. Trials & Tribulatations (the retail version with Jay-z is clearly inferior)
16. American Terrorist
17. Emperor's Soundtrack
18. Kick, Push II

Then you just take out the pointlessly long outro and you have yourself a great 72-minute album.

[Stringer Bell]

New Game song with Nas, produced by Just Blaze over at www.sumish.com (http://www.sumish.com)... song is nuts, his album is looking good.

[Stringer Bell]

Method Man tonight :wiggle:

[Stringer Bell]

Awesome pic my buddy got of Meth at the concert tonight. He took 400 some pictures, I'll link to some more later in the week when he gets them up.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2568/smokecopymz2.jpg

Dope show, I hung back like at Del so it wasn't as intense as other shows, but it was a hell of a lot of fun. Meth comes with so much energy at his shows, he was literally walking with the crowd holding him up. Then he started swinging from the railing in the rafters, dude was just out of control. Deck and Masta Killa were dope too, they had short sets (especailly MK) but they did a lot of good tracks. Meth had a long set, at about midnight I had heard pretty much everything I wanted to, so I headed out to avoid the rush at the exit as they rocked "Triumph".

I never thought I'd have the chance to see the Wu at all, but somehow this year I've seen them numerous times. The entire Clan in DC in February, which will always be my favorite concert, and since then GZA, Ghostface, and now Method Man, INS, and Masta Killa have all come to my hometown. Can't complain.

[Stringer Bell]

That's Streetlife in the picture by the way, not Meth. More great pics at his website, www.mikejophoto.com (http://www.mikejphoto.com).

The Game's album leaked, and it's a monster, just like The Documentary. The thing with Game is that no matter how average he is lyrically, his song selection is outstanding, he really knows how to cut out the filler. Just like his major debut, every single track is quality. GREAT production.

[Fro]

Yea this Game album is real solid. He sounds so much like Dre on some tracks.

[Cubed-Sphere]

^ He'd be more tolerable as a person if he'd get off Pac's balls. Every song, every interview, he has to mention 2Pac. Okay, dude, we get it, you like 2pac.

But, also he's beggining to become a bit too arrogant for my tastes. He's still one of my fav. rappers right now, but he keeps comparing himself to legends like Nas, Pac, and Big and he really isn't close to any three of them. Put out more than one record before you claim you're the next comming of hip-hop.

Okay, rant over. But, like I said, he hasn't dissapointed me yet, lyrically.

[H2K]

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/745/pjcovermz6.jpg
Pigeon John and the Summertime Pool Party. Great album, PJ is definitely unique and adds a lot of self-effacing humor throughout. It's a really fun record, great to listen to while standing in the bathroom butt naked, shaving your chest, after waking up at 3pm. yeeeeeah.

Uploaded the first 6 tracks (4 songs, 2 scenes) if you want to check him out...

1: Welcome To The Show (http://www.sendspace.com/file/azbuml)
2: Scene 1 "I Thought You Was A G!" (http://www.sendspace.com/file/m5gzjl)
3: Do The Pigeon (http://www.sendspace.com/file/io90ip)
4: Higher?! (http://www.sendspace.com/file/qgeijm)
5: Scene 2 "I Was Just Looking At Her Jeans!" (http://www.sendspace.com/file/rjsist)
6: Money Back Guarantee (http://www.sendspace.com/file/k3ss1k)

[TRO]

On that note, One Step Ahead of the Spider by MC 900 Ft. Jesus is a good album to listen to while standing buck naked in a bus stop at 3 am and shaving your eyebrows.

[Stringer Bell]

Here (http://rapidshare.com/files/1604182/2Pac_-_Pac_s_Life-www.videosdefesses.tk.rar)'s the new 2pac, I know some of you want to hear this.

Personally, I think it looks like absolute shit from the tracklist. I haven't heard it yet, so I'll give it a fair listen, but why did they pick some of these artists? Pac wouldn't have worked with 90% of those cornballs.

[Cubed-Sphere]

Here (http://rapidshare.com/files/1604182/2Pac_-_Pac_s_Life-www.videosdefesses.tk.rar)'s the new 2pac, I know some of you want to hear this.

Personally, I think it looks like absolute shit from the tracklist. I haven't heard it yet, so I'll give it a fair listen, but why did they pick some of these artists? Pac wouldn't have worked with 90% of those cornballs.

On the contrary, while far from perfect, 90% of the guest rappers are people he worked with. Out of the entire guest list, here's the ones Pac knew...

Rappers:
Outlawz (including Fatal and Kadafi)
Big Syke
Young Dre
Nuttso
Snoop
Bone Thugs

R&B Singers:
Keyshia Cole

Producers:
LT Hutton
QDIII

So besides a few weird ass producers (Sha Money XL) and rappers (Young Buck, Papoose) the album is pretty solid lookinf from my standpoint after the Slim Shady/G-Unit mixtape that was Loyal To The Game. Hell, even some of the people on there that Pac didn't know seem like talented people he'd get with anyway, such as Carl Thomas and Luda. I guess we'll see when it comes out.

By the way, this is a "tribute" cd to commemorate the 10 years passing, another actual 2Pac solo album will be released in 2007 and not have a guest on every single f'n track. Other good news about that album is that it's all Pre-DR tracks and it's being produced by Big D. and Shock G., all the dudes that knew him in Oakland when he recorded those songs.

EDIT: By the way, that isn't the new cd... that's some bootleg gay mix some moron "leaked" a week ago. So far, this album hasn't leaked. Not your fault man, I know, just pointing it out.

[Stringer Bell]

TI, Ashanti, Swizz Beats, Chamillionaire, Lil Scrappy?

Okay, so 90% was quite overboard, I should have said half.

Loyal To The Game was bad, but most of it is better than this shit.

Even worse, this album sounds like it's all recycled verses. How lame is that? That makes them shitty remixes of old Pac songs. I think Death Row tried something similar.. Nu Mixx Classics or some shit. That's what most of this sounds like.

Anyway, the next project sounds good.

[Cubed-Sphere]

TI, Ashanti, Swizz Beats, Chamillionaire, Lil Scrappy?

Okay, so 90% was quite overboard, I should have said half.

Loyal To The Game was bad, but most of it is better than this shit.

Even worse, this album sounds like it's all recycled verses. How lame is that? That makes them shitty remixes of old Pac songs. I think Death Row tried something similar.. Nu Mixx Classics or some shit. That's what most of this sounds like.

Anyway, the next project sounds good.

Dude, check my "EDIT" above... what you said it was, it basically is, a remix. That torrent is fake and the real album hasn't leaked yet. Fingers crossed you like it when you hear the real thing.

[QuietStorm]

Chamillionaire is that dude.

[spanish announce table]

I'm amped for the new AZ album. His flow is so smooth, sometimes you just listen to how he puts words together rather than what he's actually saying, and not many can do that.

The new Nas tracks "Hip-hop is dead" & "The N" are pretty good. Dont know why Will-I-Am flipped the same samples from Thief's Theme & Made You Look on the same track, but it still came out alright.

Still waiting on Sean P, GZA, and (maybe) Ghost.

[Stringer Bell]

The AZ is awesome. You need a link?

[Eddie Colon]

Trying to catch up with 06 (the only 06 hiphop I've heard has been the Roots album, a face mixtape, My Homies 2 and fishscales), listened to the new Cube, Game and Masta Killah.

All three where good, with the Cube and Game being real good. The MK joint was nice, but none of the songs stood out except for maybe the opening track. The Game album was better than I expected from him, though it reminded me how annoying the pac/big blowjobbing can get.

New AZ in the download booth right now

[TRO]

I like "It's What It Is" on Masta Killa's album, if that's the name of the one with Ghost and Raekwon.

[QuietStorm]

AZ is probably the most underrated rapper alive for all that he has delivered in the past 12 years.

[Cubed-Sphere]

AZ is probably the most underrated rapper alive for all that he has delivered in the past 12 years.

Him or John Cena.

AZ is good, but that's it... good. He's never reached "great" or "legend" status in my view. I certainly agree he's a worthy candidate for most underrated, though, since even people like Talib, Common, and Mos Def get mentions by heads, while AZ is NEVER mentioned by anyone, anywhere. I'd also put Royce Da 5'9'' on that list with AZ.

[Stringer Bell]

AZ is great for sure.. I dunno about legend, but he gets overlooked by just about everyone. He's always consistent, though I hate the fact the he always feels the need to have at least one horrible song on each album. Take off "Doing That", add 3 or so more dope songs, and his new album would've been something like 4.5/5

[Hack]

Just picked up that Muggs album, Soul Assassins. :yes: I love it.

I also saw that they've officially released a The Shining Instrumentals album, which I'm pretty pumped about. When I listen to Dilla, I don't want to hear anything but what Dilla is doing.

[Stringer Bell]

Game "One Blood" remix featuring Jim Jones, Snoop Dogg, Nas, TI, Fat Joe, Lil' Wayne, Nore, Jadakiss, Styles P, Fabolous, Juelz Santana, Rick Ross, Twista, Kurupt, Daz Dillinger, WC, E-40, Bun B, Chamillionaire, Slim Thug, Young Dro, Clipse & Ja Rule...

over @ sumish.com (http://www.sumish.com)


Surprisingly it's legit and not some DJ/computer blend. It's decent, I'm sure some people in here will love it.

[SheltonLondon]

Not reading through pages of discussion but has anyone heard Nas' new album yet, and what do they think?

[Stringer Bell]

It's not out yet. It's gonna be a banger, though.

[Fro]

Game "One Blood" remix featuring Jim Jones, Snoop Dogg, Nas, TI, Fat Joe, Lil' Wayne, Nore, Jadakiss, Styles P, Fabolous, Juelz Santana, Rick Ross, Twista, Kurupt, Daz Dillinger, WC, E-40, Bun B, Chamillionaire, Slim Thug, Young Dro, Clipse & Ja Rule...

over @ sumish.com (http://www.sumish.com)


Surprisingly it's legit and not some DJ/computer blend. It's decent, I'm sure some people in here will love it.
Wow. That's nuts. How fuckin long is it?

[Hack]

6 hours.

[spanish announce table]

Went to buy the new AZ today, but nobody had it. Picked up Hi-Tek instead. "Music for Life" is friggin beautiful.

[Hack]

How's the album overall?

[Stringer Bell]

Personally, I like it a lot. A lot of people seem to be disappointed with it, but I think it's damn good and I'm glad I bought it. The Best Buy version was like 9.99 with a bonus DVD and 3 extra songs, definitely try to snatch that one. It's an R&B oriented hip-hop album, but it's good, soulful R&B. This guy Dion who's signed to Aftermath, I hadn't heard him until this album... and this chick Ayak kills her song with Talib.

It's got Q-Tip, Kurupt, Talib, Ghostface, Busta Rhymes, Pretty Ugly, Jadakiss, Papoose, Raekwon, The Game, Strong Arm Steady, Bun B, Devin The Dude, Nas, Common... and then the 3 extra songs have Snoop, Slim Thug, Mos Def, and Raphael Saadiq. If you like the sound of that blended heavily with soulful hooks, over some damn good beats, go for it. I really don't think you can go wrong with this album, there's a little something for everyone. I'm really enjoying all these albums this year with one consistent producer (Dilla, JMT, Bronze Nazareth, Madlib, etc.)

[SheltonLondon]

It's not out yet. It's gonna be a banger, though.

Yeah, I know that I thought a couple of you would have downloaded the leak by now though, it's up on Albumbase.

[TRO]

It pretty much has to be better than Street's Disciple. Unless Nas has completely lost it, I mean.

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah, I know that I thought a couple of you would have downloaded the leak by now though, it's up on Albumbase.

That's not real. Don't trust Albumbase.

[SheltonLondon]

Good then, because I haven't downloaded it.

When is it scheduled to be released?

[Stringer Bell]

Sometime in December

[Morrison]

December 19th, to be exact.

[J-Krow]

What does everyone think of P. Diddy's new song with Christina Aguilera?

[Cubed-Sphere]

Well, Pac's Life leaked and here my impressions that I posted on another site. Though, I advise you all wait and d/l it once the explicit leaks, only the clean version is available yet.

FULL REVIEW:

UNTOUCHABLE (SWIZZ BEATZ RMX) - 3/5
It's okay... while the beat is NOTHING like 2Pac would ever be on, his verses are good and the beat itself isn't total crap. Bone Thugs come very nice on it as well.

PAC'S LIFE - 2.5/5
Same as above. It's okay, but the off-beat 1st verse irritates me. Besides that, it just sounds too pop. Still kind of hot, just not my style.

DUMPIN' - 4/5
Beat gets a tad repitive, but the beat itself is class and everyone on the song comes tight. It literally gives me chills... especially 2pac's verse and Carl Thomas' singing on the hook. Fatal and Papoose deliver AWESOME verses theirselves.

PLAYA CARDZ RIGHT (FEMALE) - 2/5
Not complete trash but just too long for a one verse song. I like the instrumental, Pac's verse, and Cole's vocals, but all the nice elements just didn't come together tight enough.

WHAT'Z NEXT? - 2.5/5
The beat is weak, but surprisingly works alright in the context of the lyrics. The guests come pretty good. Not a track I'd ever put on repeat, but not one I'll always skip, either.

SLEEP - 3/5
Nice track, not great, but a worthy addition. Guests are really good, Pac's vocals flow really smooth on the groovin' beat. Everyone who disses this track should check it again, cuz the 1st listen I was a little dissapointed, but on a second listen I noticed a lot of little things in the beat that really goes nice.

INTERNATIONAL - 2.5/5
Nice Pac verse, guests are, again, awesome, and I even love the chorus, it's catchy, but the beat sucks. Kind of sad, really, with just a better beat this track would have been on of faves, but the beat is just too weak for the great raps and hook.

DON'T SLEEP - 3.5/5
Again, nice verses, and an amazing beat. EDI did a fantastic job here on the beat. Lil' Scrappy stuck on the hook is a good call, so all the Lawz can shine on the verses. I like it. Very 2pac style beat... he'd definately do with this. Very nice Spanish Guitar.

SOON AS I GET HOME - 5/5
One of my favorite unreleased 2Pac songs in CDQ and untouched. Nothing more to say.

PLAYA CARDS RIGHT (MALE) - 4/5
Pretty good. Love the singing/hook and beat. Luda is okay. Just a tad long... cut 20 seconds off it and the song would be a little less repetitive. Another beat that just feels like 2Pac. Nice piano and guitar. Hell, Keon Bryce sounds exactly like a dude Pac would have on a hook. I like him better than K-Ci and JoJo on the original. I know, 2pac blasphemy, but it's how I feel.

DON'T STOP - 4/5
The "repetitiveness" problem shows up on this track too. While the vocals are hot and the beat is cool, it gets a little old being 5 minute +. Still, it's a good track and one I'd bump every now and then. I love Young Noble agreeing with Nas about Hip-Hop being dead. Nice.

PAC'S LIFE RMX - 3/5
I wanted to hear Snoop and Pac together again and I get this? It's the exact same beat as the non-rmx version and Snoop comes a little weak on his verse. He is spitting a dedication to Pac, so it's cool, but, just lyrically it's a weak verse and uncreative verse. T.I. spit fire and the hook sounds a little more Pac-style than the un-rmx version earlier on the disc.

UNTOUCHABLE RMX - 3/5
Should have been better, but it's alright. Nice verses and it's cool to hear Fatal, Pac, and Kadafi together (too bad some tard named Gravy appears on the track, but he's okay too, I guess). The beat just leaves some to be desired.


OVERALL: 3.25/5

Basically, it's okay, I'm cool with it, but about 4 tracks could just dissapear and be replaced no problem. Waaaaay better than LTTG and a step back into the right direction. Can't wait to hear the next album that will have Pac solos (this whole cd features at least one guest on every track) and will be produced by his Oakland crew from the early 90's.

[skulldice]

Jay Z's new album, rather bad IMO .. 1.5/5, just not listenable for me. Not a big fan of any of the songs and especially the "beats" that Dr. Dre apparently gave to this album. They're terrible.

Game CD = 4/5. A cpl great songs like "One Blood", "Compton", and really the whole album is good. This is the one of the 3 that Ill be replaying alot. I never even liked Game before either.

Snoop CD = 3/5, standout tracks in "Imagine" and "Think About it", some weak parts but Snoops flow is amazing on a few tracks here.

Only listened to them twice (in games case 3 or 4 times already) so it could change, but Im having a hard time listening to Jay's album again.

This is more of a bump than anything.. Where's Buck Marley & co. with their opinions on these leaks :D

[Fro]

So Jay's album leaked, huh? I'm gonna need to check that out.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

I've only heard the lead single a couple of times but it sounds awful.

Don't see the point in him coming out of retirement to put out shit like that.

Not surprised the Game album is hot, the Game is my favourite rapper atm, there were umpteen shit hot tracks on all of the mixtapes since Documentary. Will probably actually buy TDA, first CD I'll have bought for ages cos I know it will actually be good.

[Stringer Bell]

What's bad about the Jay-Z album? Seriously...

It's got one bad track, the one with Beyonce. I really don't know what Hov was thinking here. The odd thing is that, the songs he's rapped on from her albums ("Crazy In Love", "That's How You Like It", "Upgrade U") are much better than this. I would've much rather had them do a "Crazy In Love" Part 2 type song than this. And I don't mind Beyonce, it's just not a very good song.

Second up is the Usher/Pharrell joint. It's not as bad as "Hollywood", but it still sounds horribly out of place, and I have no clue what made Jay want to pick the redundant beat. Whatever, the song's not all that bad, especially compared to the Beyonce track, but why is this on here and no DJ Premier track?

The rest of the album, is quite excellent. The Prelude (!!!), Oh My God (!!!), Kingdom Come, Lost Ones, Do U Wanna Ride (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!), 30 Something, I Made It, Trouble, Dig A Hole, Minority Report, and Beach Chair are all outstanding tracks if you ask me. Honestly, I don't know what you were expecting if you don't like those songs. "Beach Chair" surely isn't the norm, but most of these tracks are vintage Jay (lyrically, topic-wise, etc.). Speaking of "Beach Chair", I'm not a big Coldplay fan, but Chris Martin KILLED the beat. It's something new, and something very very refreshing.

I do think Dr. Dre came weak. I don't know what's going on with that guy, but if the ever-so-hyped Detox has beats like this, it's not going to blow anyone's mind, that's for sure. Don't get me wrong, I really like the Dre tracks on here, they're just a bit disappointing when you consider his body of work. It's like he's satisfied with a simple piano loop, hard drums, and random synth noises. That's not the Dre I, or we, know. C'mon playboy.

I could go on and on about the album, but I'll leave it at that for now. Skulldice, I definitely recommend you go back and give it another shot. I was disappointed to be honest, but that's just because I was expecting way too much -- it's a hell of a record. How can someone not like a track like "Oh My God"?

Also, that Kanye song is so fucking smooth. Probably my favorite of the moment.

As for Game's CD, I thought that was really good too. I gotta say that Game picked better beats than Jay did, but lyrically he doesn't come anywhere close to matching up with him. Jay's lyrics alone make his album better in my eyes.

Haven't heard the Snoop yet, but I have heard surprisingly good things. I'll be damned if it's better than Kingdom Come though... considering the last 5 or 6 albums Snoop has had, I don't think that's possible. Still looking forward to it, though.

[skulldice]

I like Kingdom Come (the song not tha album). I just feel most of the album is boring. There are songs I'll listen to but I'm enjoying Game, Snoop, and even Az's album way more.

I haven't been into Jay Z since '98, sadly.

[Hack]

I've only heard the lead single a couple of times but it sounds awful.

Don't see the point in him coming out of retirement to put out shit like that.





I know what you mean, but the weakest track on The Black Album was the first single, so I'm still hoping that is the case here as well.

I think I'm going to ignore the leak and just buy it the day it comes out. Since 2001, I've loved all of his albums, even if some of The Blueprint 2 sucked.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

I know what you mean, but the weakest track on The Black Album was the first single, so I'm still hoping that is the case here as well.

I think I'm going to ignore the leak and just buy it the day it comes out. Since 2001, I've loved all of his albums, even if some of The Blueprint 2 sucked.

Hmmm very good point, didn't even think about that. Haven't heard anything else of the new album though, hopefully the rest of the album is a bit better.

[Stringer Bell]

I'm telling you guys, it's excellent. The Beyonce track is a dud, so expect that.. and the Usher track will probably only appeal to certain people.. but the rest of it is, simply put, dope. I don't know if I'd rank this over The Black Album, but it's far from the slip-up a lot of reviews seem to be making it out to be. Album of the year? Not quite, but it's one of them.

Skull, seeing as you're clearly not a Jay fan I guess it makes sense, but Hova has had LOADS of outstanding material since '98. I find it a bit strange that you call the Jay album boring, yet you love The Game album. And that's not at all a knock on you (or the Game, his album is great), but The Game talks about nothing but Dre on his album, while Jay is one of the best lyricists in the game and covers all sorts of topics. Just my 2 cents...

[CtVampSlayer]

What does everyone think of P. Diddy's new song with Christina Aguilera?

Better than the usual crap he puts out, but she makes the song.

[Stringer Bell]

If your first post in the hip-hop thread is about P Diddy, you probably shouldn't have posted it at all.

[spanish announce table]

I came across a promo version of The Format, and other than "Doing That", this is about even with AWOL. Definitely digging the MOP/Fame collaborations.

The One Blood remix is a bit much with half the appearances being forgettable (Snoop, Nas, E40), and that "Remix, Remix" hook is stupid. I'd say Clipse, Styles & Jada, Twista, Chamillionaire, and Bun B came the strongest.

Black Moon's Alter the Chemistry is a solid album. I'd say its a bit better than the original with 9th Wonder. The beat on 'Food for Thought' is awesome.

Hi-Teknology is another good one. Other than the Czarnok track, this is solid top to bottom. I originally hated 'March', but its growing on me, and only Busta could rock a beat like that.

[skulldice]

Haha I like Doing That, personally

The Format is the one Im diggin the most.

Sorry Buck, I hate KC

[skulldice]

Dr. Dre to produce Raekwon's "Cuban Linx Part 2"

http://www.mtv.com/#/news/articles/1.../raekwon.jhtml

I'm a little nervous here, I didnt like Dre's production on Jay-Z's record. I hope he turns it up a little bit on this one, I was hoping for a Wu Tang produced album. I know Buck Marley will be interested in this.

[Stringer Bell]

I dunno man, I think "Doing That" is absolutely horrible. The beat is corny, and Jha Jha from Dipset on the hook was a bad choice. Talk about a mistake.

Your MTV link is messed up, but are you sure he's producing the whole thing? We've known for awhile that he'll be doing tracks on it. If he's doing the entire album, I think that's a mistake. Dre's great, but his sound is nothing like the original Cuban Linx. I'm fine with 2 or 3 tracks..

[skulldice]

On MTV.com it says "the majority of the tracks". It'd be stupid to not have one or 2 RZA songs on there, at the very least.

As far as Doing That, to each his own. As far as a "fucking song" goes, I don't mind it.




Raekwon isn't arrogant, he just has no doubt he'll win on his next LP, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, Part 2.

How can he be so sure? Not only does he have fellow Wu-Tang member RZA in his corner, but it's official: The Chef said he's inked a deal with Dr. Dre's Aftermath label, and the Doc will be producing a bulk of the beats on the album as well.

"I just felt it was going to be something to excite the fans in hip-hop," Rae said Tuesday evening. "Let them know I'm dealing with a whole list of thorough superproducers that's making sure this legacy of Cuban Linx carries on. We thought it was a brilliant idea to have RZA and Dr. collaborate, us being big Dre fans. His classics sheet is way long. As well as RZA's.


"We felt we wanted to put a twist on it and let everybody know the sh-- is that important," he continued. "We going through generation expansion, where the generations are differentiating. We wanted to give them a taste of something new as well as what they wanna see."

Rae said initially Dre was supposed to just produce a couple of tracks for the album, but everything just got better as they kept working. "Allah put us in the right place," he explained. "I'm working real hard, putting little pieces together. The album is coming out great. Everything is up to par. We still working on it, we never stop working till the last day."

The album is slated for release next year, although there's no official date for the LP as of yet. Rae also reported that besides Dre and RZA, the album will feature production from the late J Dilla, as well as Scram Jones (N.O.R.E., Mariah Carey) and DJ Scratch.

The last we heard from Raekwon, he was traveling to Africa with Paul Wall and Tego Calderón to examine the troubled diamond trade in war-torn Sierra Leone (see "Kanye, Paul Wall Urge Rappers To 'Bling Responsibly' In Documentary").

[Fro]

Here's hiphopdx's story (basically says the same thing as MTV):
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.4618/title.dre-to-produce-bulk-of-cuban-linx-2

My bet is that RZA was unable to produce the majority of it cuz of his busy movie schedule and whatnot. I think Dre will do just fine. Musically, I'm expecting it to be excellent. I'm much more concerned about how Rae is gonna come with it. I haven't been too pleased with his guest verses of late.

[Stringer Bell]

Fro, you heard any of his recent mixtapes? Both Vaitcan tapes and Heroin Only are DOPE...

My problem is Dre doesn't sound like Wu, at all. He's great, but he's not Wu. I guess we'll have to wait and see. It'll probably be changed about 5 more times before it's released anyway, haha. Beats from Dilla and DJ Scratch sound good :yes:

[Fro]

I just have The Vatican Vol. 1. Even though there's a handful of dope verses on there ("Kids Thats Rich" is vintage Rae), overall he still sounds like only a shadow of his old self in terms of both lyrics and energy on the mic. Like I said, his guest verses on Fishscale, Grandmasters and 4:21 have not impressed me either. And you know Wu members always come strong on guest spots. I'm still looking forward to the album -- it really has to be dope if he's throwing the OB4CL2 tag on it. Plus, Dre usually brings out the best in rappers. But if there's one thing I'm concerned with it's whether Rae can provide an entire album's worth of solid verses like he used to.

[spanish announce table]

I agree Rae doesnt have the same energy on the mic anymore, but lyrically his guest spots since Lex Diamond Story have all been dope. His mixtapes, and his work with Busta, Ill Bill, Hi-Tek, Masta Killa, Meth and Ghost have all been solid. With both Immobilarity and LDS, it was more a question of beats than it was lyrics.

U-God's next album is tentativle titles Machine Gun Funk, and he's rumored to be working with Large Pro and Uncle Ralph McDaniels. As a soloist, this is the last shot I'm giving him. Redemption was decent, but nowhere near as great as it could have been. Hillside Scramblers and Mr Xcitement were both messes. He's somewhat redeemed himself with good verses with Masta, Meth, Deck and Ghost, but if his new track is any indication, the new album looks like more of the same disappointing stuff.

Finally got around to hearing Food and Liquor, and this is definitely worth the hype its getting. The second half of the album is damn near flawless.

[TRO]

Rae's verse on the last Masta Killa album was solid. I think it's too much to expect another legendary album, but Cuban Lynx 2 basically can't be a failure with Dre and RZA on board, and DJ Scratch is good stuff too. And you know he's gonna get some good guest verses (how about a Wu posse cut with Dre on the boards)...

[Fro]

Jay-Z - Kingdom Come

1. The Prelude - Real nice, mellow beat. Strong flow from Jig to start off the album.
9/10

2. Oh My God - Straight banger. Just Blaze come hard with with beat - is that an Allman Bros sample? I like it.
8.5/10

3. Kingdom Come - Another Just Blaze beat. This one's less than impressive, but I really like Jay's flow over it, and the chorus is dope.
8/10

4. Show Me What You Got - This one's grown on me over time. Solid beat and Jay's verses are really listenable despite consisting of mostly fluff.
8/10

5. Lost Ones - Favorite track off the album, hands down. Fantastic beat from Dre - love that piano line. Jay uses it perfectly, providing another super smooth flow that's on par with his best.
10/10

6. Do U Wanna Ride - Only Kanye beat on the album, and it's real strong, though not "Heart of the City" or "Never Change" strong. Pretty good sample for the chorus, and Jay, as always, meshes well with Kanyeezy's sound.
8.5/10

7. 30 Something - While not a true Dre banger like we're used to hearing, still a great beat. Love the hook - "Now I got black cards, good credit and such/baby boy cuz I'm all grown up" - Dope.
9/10

8. I Made It - Mediocre beat from DJ Khalil. Jay raps from the heart about his fam and his past, but struggles to get a good rhythym goin.
7/10

9. Anything (ft/Usher) - Neptunes beat that doesn't live up to their standard. The Usher chorus is pretty annoying. Jay gets a little speed goin in his rhymes, which is a good thing. But he can't save this track from being one of the album's duds.
6/10

10. Hollywood (ft/Beyonce) - I actually don't mind the Beyonce hook, though it's nothing special. Jay slacks a little on this one with some bland lyrics about show biz, but they're not awful. Then again, I don't think any Jay verse has ever been awful.
6.5/10

11. Trouble - This is the one Dre beat that is actually a little hard to listen to. The piano line, which is pretty good, gets overpowered by the borderline-annoying syntesizer repetition. Thankfully, Jay comes real nice.
7.5/10

12. Dig a Hole - Not a big fan of the beat, but it aint bad. The chorus is a sort of a dud - half R&B, half simple repeating of the words "dig a hole."
6.5/10

13. Minority Report - Jay's gets his conscious rap on over an eerie Dre beat, and it works. Lyrically and musically on point. Plus Ne-Yo comes with some silky smooth lines to follow Jay's single verse.
9/10

14. Beach Chair - This one's really out there. Jig sounds natural over the futuristic beat from the Coldplay guy. Real abstract, almost surrealistic lyrics. Some of his best rhymes come on this track - "life is but a dream to me/gun shots sing to these other guys/but lullabies dont mean a thing to me" - Real strong finish to the album.
9.5/10

Overall: 8/10
A very good comeback album, and another solid effort to add to the collection. "Lost Ones" will go down as a Jay-Z classic. Please Hov, keep working with Dre. Yea, the Doc didn't come with his A game this time around, but even his off beats are superb.

[Stringer Bell]

Really good ratings, except I'd give "Oh My God" a 9 and "Kingdom Come" a 9.5...

"Do You Want To Ride" would be a 9 or 9.5 for me..

"I Made It" is about an 8 or 8.5..

"Trouble" 8.5..

"Dig A Hole" 8... Fro, you like "Hollywood" as much as this track? I dunno man, I think "Dig A Hole" is decent, but far from the best song..

Also, "Minority Report" is a hell of a song. I'd give it 9.5, it's near perfect, I even like Ne-Yo's stuff.

And then "Anything" would be a 6.5 or 7, and "Hollywood" would be a 4 or 4.5 for me..

Good ratings though.


Has everyone heard the Nas/Jay-Z track yet? It's crazy... I can't wait for the Nas LP..

The Clipse album leaked, and it's pretty damn good. The coke topics get annoying, but the Neptunes deliver some amazing production. Good stuff. VA rep!

[spanish announce table]

I missed the Sean P/Edo G/Cali Agents show last night. I'm going to miss the Raekwon/Redman/EPMD show on the 5th. Fuck exams.

[Hack]

The Shining Instrumentals is killer, guys. It should have been released like this in the first place.

:yes: Definately happy with the purchase.

[Hack]

I know I've only listened to the whole thing twice, but I'm not feeling Kingdom Come very much at all. I mean, the first few tracks are good enough, they get you in the mood to hear some great hip-hop ... then the thing pretty much sucks until the final two tracks.

I mean, Chris Martin produced the best song on a Jay-Z album and Kanye produced one of the worst. I can't believe I'm typing that sentence.

I hope it grows on me, guys ...

[Eddie Colon]

I tried listening to it last week and got bored after like track 2. Haven't even looked at it since.

[Hack]

I drove 10 hours today and listened to Kingdom Come all the way through two more times, and a few other songs three or four more times. I'll admit that it has grown on me a bit, but it still has some really weak moments.

After "Lost Ones" and before "Minority Report," I don't think there is a single song that does anything for me. "Anything" is beyond bad and "Dig a Hole" might be the most annoying Jay-Z track since "2 Many Hoes."

"Oh My God," "Minority Report" and "Beach Chair" are all pretty fucking great, though.

[TRO]

I think some of you might enjoy this: http://www.sun-zoo.com/music.htm

The guy has an entire album available for free download, and it's pretty dope. Just real, down to earth hip-hop, a lot like Murs 3:16. Worth checking out.

[son_of_foley]

clipse album is solid only had one hearing of it.

Bought game theory by the roots. Nice album

[son_of_foley]

how's game selling atm?

[spanish announce table]

Game sold roughly 350 000 his first week out, which is more than Banks has done since Rotten Apple dropped. Thats pretty good by this year's standards, but he was predicting gold.

A guy from my uni got stabbed to death at that Sean P concert. Crazy shit.
http://www.thespec.com/pdfs/20061121/A10.pdf?GXHC_gx_session_id_=12bc681cc0be35f7&

[Eddie Colon]

anyone heard Ultramag MC's "The best kept secret"? Just downloaded it and I hear it was pretty good.

[Stringer Bell]

The Clipse album is nice, I gotta rep them being from VA. "Hello New World" is a MONSTER of a song, and a lot of the other stuff is good too. I don't mind the singles, but "Trill" and "Dirty Money" are pretty bad and aren't necessary on an album that's already rather short.

Glad to see The Game is doing well by today's standards, he deserves it. He really does make quality hip-hop. If you combine The Documentary and Doctor's Advocate and take out the weaker tracks, you have a damn near classic album. If he could step up his game and switch up the subject matter, he could make some amazing stuff. Since that seems to be the major backlash against his CD, maybe he'll notice of the complaints and make an effort to improve...

The "new" Eminem track is over at Sumish.com (http://www.sumish.com). It's rumored to be recorded awhile back, but either way it's previously unheard. It's a hell of a song lyrically, and if he starts writing like this again, I could actually see myself getting back into his music.

HOT new Ghostface song, among other stuff, on that page too.. his album is shaping up nicely.

[Eddie Colon]

I really really want to buy the Ghost album when it comes out, but I live in PUERTO RICO where you could find underage bestiality rape videos before a hiphop album that doesn't get regular radio play.

[son_of_foley]

I dont think he is selling great over here sadly. He went into the charts at number 21. Maybe if he gets a couple of hot singles off it he might do ok. The documentary shifted well over here

[TRO]

I'll send you the Ghost album in exchange for the Puerto Rican underage bestiality rape... :naughty:

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

Hmmmm yeah I think if Hard Liquor was the lead single, or a club-friendly banger like How We Do it would probably have done much better.

[son_of_foley]

Hmmmm yeah I think if Hard Liquor was the lead single, or a club-friendly banger like How We Do it would probably have done much better.

We got one blood. It's a bit of a banger but not quite there. A track with kanye on the new album will prob prop this up a bit more

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

I haven't heard that in a club yet and it's been floating around for a couple of months. I used to hear How We Do and Hate It Or Love It every-fucking-where.

I have to admit I'm disappointed with Doctor's Advocate, even though I love it if that makes sense. Considering some of the flows/lyrics on the umpteen mix-tapes since Documentary I was expecting a bit better tbh.

I'm sure I'll enjoy it more, the more I listen to it. Just had REALLY high expectations for it :\

[Stringer Bell]

"Let's Ride (Strip Club)" is his club/radio single

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

Hasn't had any exposure at all over here, I can see why.

[xXxAjLxXx]

Hey does anyone know how to get instrumentals or anyway to make the instrumentals by yourself?

[TRO]

The same way you find non-instrumentals... Look for torrents, search the P2Ps, check ebay, go to a record store...

[Simon]

That Eminem track is old...old lyrics put over a new beat with a new hook, but the verses are from a few years ago.

[Stringer Bell]

As far as I know the last verse is new.. and it's all re-recorded regardless. Good stuff.

[Hack]

All of you wild and crazy kids should check out the Dr. Who Dat? CD. While I was home, I hit up the wonderful Vintage Vinyl and picked up a copy and I love it. Some great instrumentals. It's dense like old Common, but also reminds me a lot of Madlib at his best.

That's the end of my rant. I hate everone who doesn't look the dude up.

[QuietStorm]

The first time you mentioned him I thought Redman had changed his name without letting me know.

[TRO]

You should pick up Bootsy Collins - Christmas is 4 Ever, Hack.

[Hack]

Only if Bootsy delivers them to your house. I'd buy one then.

[Stringer Bell]

I'm definitely gonna check Dr. Who Dat? out soon, I'm a lazy ass.

[spanish announce table]

What do you guys think of Ras Kass' "Re-Up" mixtape? Its his only tape I havent heard yet, and most people are saying its his worst. Also, what about Van Gogh and Goldyn Chyld? I know these were canned, but were they ever leaked?