Hip Hop Discussion/Album Review Thread.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

T"The Time: Donuts of the Heart,"


:heart: :yes:

Love it when the Wu comes up in this thread. :cry: Was listening to C.R.E.A.M earlier with a massive smile on my face after my run, I challenge anyone to say that song doesn't bring a smile to their face!

Glad your man mentioned No Said Date too, really thought that was a solid effort, and eagerly awaiting Masta Killah's next effort. Especially as he's up there with the Rebel INS, GZA, RZA and Ghostface as my fave Wu members... and that's the thing that's so great about WTC, everyone has their favourite members, tracks and albums. What's even better is, as much as you discuss and argue, there's no stark difference, because it's all good shit.

:heart: WTC.

Hack, a question for you. I'm a fan of MF Doom's work, but haven't been exposed to a lot of it, mainly Madvillainy and Dangerdoom. I'm very tempted to pick up Mmm Food, would this be a wise decision?

Really looking to The Roots album too, been playing a lot of their stuff recently, although was disappointed somewhat with The Tipping Point last time out. The Seed (2.0), what are people's opinion on this track? Interested to know what the hardcore hip-hop fans on here think of it.... (obviously I know it was Phrenology)

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Oh shit yeah, anyone listened to the new DPG album? Rapreviews gave it an 8... must be half decent

[Restiform]

Hack, a question for you. I'm a fan of MF Doom's work, but haven't been exposed to a lot of it, mainly Madvillainy and Dangerdoom. I'm very tempted to pick up Mmm Food, would this be a wise decision?


I know you're not asking me, but in my opinion, I wasn't too impressed with it. The only standout tracks on the album for me were Deep Fried Frenz, One Beer, and Beef Rapp. The rest of the album didn't stand out too much for me. It, along with Dangerdoom are probably my two least favorite Doom efforts (with Dangerdoom mainly because I'm not really into Dangermouse.) You said you've heard Madvillain, which imo is way better than Mmm..Food. It's probably my second favorite Doom project, behind King Geedorah (which I recommend.)

[Hack]

Hack, a question for you. I'm a fan of MF Doom's work, but haven't been exposed to a lot of it, mainly Madvillainy and Dangerdoom. I'm very tempted to pick up Mmm Food, would this be a wise decision?



Dude, MM ... Food is my favorite MF Doom album.

"Hoe Cakes" is outstanding, "Potholderz" is fresh and features some killer rhymes from Count Bass D, "One Beer" is produced by Madlib, "Deep Fried Frenz" is possibly my favorite Doom track of all time ... and that's just the first half. There are a lot of skits, which people complain about fairly often, but they aren't really skits like Wu-Tang used skits ... they're actual productions, like on an old Public Enemy album. Oh, and "Rapp Snitch Knishes" with Mr. Fantastik ... that's another all-time favorite Doom track.

So, if you want my opinion, it is essential Doom. Obviously, some people disagree.

[Stringer Bell]

Oh shit yeah, anyone listened to the new DPG album? Rapreviews gave it an 8... must be half decent

I haven't heard it, but I wouldn't really go by what Rapreviews says. They've been putting out shitty reviews for years now. I'm not saying every review is poor, but a lot of them are..

"The Seed 2.0" was a nice little song. Far from one of their best, but it was a good single. Black Thought had some thought-provoking rhymes as usual.. not much else to say. I wasn't a big fan of the hook, but it could've been worse.

[Hack]

Don't be dissing Flash now.

[Restiform]

Oh yeah, I meant Hoe Cakes, not Beef Rapp my bad. But yeah, by no means was MM... Food was bad album. I just think Doom's done a lot better thats all.

[Hack]

Holy shit, I just saw that Cut Chemist has a new album. A studio album, not just a bunch of mash-ups.

Fucking awesome. :headbang:

[Hack]

We need a smiley that is scratching a turntable so I can use it instead of the handbager. Somebody find one.

[Stringer Bell]

Here's that Cut Chemist, Mike.. http://www.sendspace.com/file/wb1465

Courtesy of www.thecryptonline.com

On the topic of producers dropping full length albums, I've been enjoying Oh No and Belief's new albums. Good stuff. Haven't listened to the Cut Chemist yet though..

[Hack]

Dude, awesome. I had already added it to my Amazon cart for when I make my next purchase, but I'll take it for free.

[Hack]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BuckMarley again


:heart:

[TRO]

Stolen from Mitch's sig:


http://jm.g.free.fr/smileys/dj.sml.gif

[TRO]

MM ... Food is a fucking great album, btw. No other MC has the balls to rap about cookies and superheros and shit for a whole album. And it's crazy how a lush wearing a metal mask can be so much more emotionally honest about friends, women, and life itself, than almost anyone releasing records today.

The track More Soup by Moka Only feat. Doom beats all contenders, anyways.

Moke and Doom keep it sewn like an open wound /
Two scientists up in the lab who make it go kaboom /
They like "don't mix those two properties together /
Probly end up with some empty eye sockets or whatever"

[Morrison]

How someone can't love MM.. Food is beyond me. I've got countless nights stacked up where I just layed in bed listening to it. Smooth shit.

Anybody else have this Bedstuy Meets Blues Eyes mash-up record? Got a bunch of Sinatra songs mixed with Biggie lyrics. Nice little album, if you're into that kind of thing. And if you aren't you should at least love the mash-up of "Juicy" and "New York, New York." Preety fitting that the King of New York rap is flowing over a beat made out of ""New York, New York."

[Hack]

http://jm.g.free.fr/smileys/dj.sml.gif


Excellent. We need a MF Doom smiley and I'm set.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

I've never even heard of Cut Chemist, but I'm downloading that album anwyay.

Thought you should know :shrug:

[Stringer Bell]

He is (or was) the producer from Jurassic 5. He's also released a lot of well-recieved solo stuff, but I honestly haven't heard much of it.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

If my neighbours could see through walls they'd be looking at me like this:

:wtf:


I was expecting a normal album, rappers rapping over beats etc. This is fucked up.

[Hack]

He's also featured a great deal in Scratch, a badass documentary about DJing.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

I can imagine enjoying it if I was on pills or something.

[Fro]

Anybody else have this Bedstuy Meets Blues Eyes mash-up record? Got a bunch of Sinatra songs mixed with Biggie lyrics. Nice little album, if you're into that kind of thing. And if you aren't you should at least love the mash-up of "Juicy" and "New York, New York." Preety fitting that the King of New York rap is flowing over a beat made out of ""New York, New York."
Yea, my friend put me onto that a while ago, and it's definitely some great remixes. Besides the one you mentioned, the "Nasty Boy"/"For Every Man There's a Woman" track is also awesome.

Woman was made for man...

[Stringer Bell]

Holy shit

I just downloaded the Roots new album.. it needs to grow on me a little, I dunno about all the singing.. but...

"Can't Stop This" :eek: :eek: :eek: Black Thought KILLED "Time: Donut of the Heart"!!!!

I gotta send you that track, Mike...

[Hack]

Holy shit

I just downloaded the Roots new album.. it needs to grow on me a little, I dunno about all the singing.. but...

"Can't Stop This" :eek: :eek: :eek: Black Thought KILLED "Time: Donut of the Heart"!!!!

I gotta send you that track, Mike...


Sounds badass to me.

I've been fairly obsessed with the Bomb Squad lately. Other than Superfly, a few Roots albums and Sigur Ros, all I've been listening to is Bomb Squad-produced shit like old Public Enemy and Cube's AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted.

I'm not sure what else, if anything, they produced, but I'm going to do some research and find out.

[.invurzion.]

Since we are talking about Cut Chemist ... I figured I could up the new J5 album Feedback. Hope you guys enjoy.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=C9A752E473D7D605

[TRO]

Awesome. Hey, those of you in the know, is there like a database of leaked albums and mixtapes somewhere? A website that collects them or something?

[Stringer Bell]

Check your PM's :yes:

Way too much good music has come out lately, I haven't even been able to listen to all of it. The Roots, Raekwon's mixtape, Freddie Foxxx's mixtape, Cut Chemist, J5, Boot Camp Click, Gift of Gab's mixtape, Pack FM, Belief, Oh No, and a lot more. I've also heard good things about the Society of Invisibles album, but haven't downloaded it.

Couple that with the fact that I've been listening to a lot of non-hip-hop stuff as well, and I've got more music than time..

Oh yeah, Pharrell's album is horrible. Not that I necessarily expected much else, but wow... nearly every song sounds similar, and even Jay phoned in his verse. Poor.

Everybody should really buy that Roots album on August 29th though. It's easily one of the best albums of the year.

[.invurzion.]

I have a lot of mixtapes that I just recently got ... all of them are southern hip hop though. Not too recent, but I got:

ATL: The Mixtape
DJ Envy - Purple Codeine Vol. 7
DJ Smallz - Southern Smoke 27
DJ Kayslay and Young Jeezy - The Snowman
DJ Drama and Saigon - Gangsta Grillz (Welcome To The Saigon)

You guys want anything let me know ...

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

I wouldn't mind hearing the Snowman. Jeezy doesn't seem like the most inspiring lyricist from what I've heard, but he seems like someone to chill to.

[.invurzion.]

I'll upload it for you in a minute. Probably be up later tonight.

Just got finished listening to that new Bonecrusher album - Release The Beast. Can't say that I was dissappointed because I really knew what it was going to sound like before I listened to it. Same formula. Got some stuff in there that will make you want to fight ... but hey ... that's Bonecrusher right?

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

Nice one, cheers mate.

Just downloaded Chamillionaire's album, Sound of Revenge. Very typical, sort of shit that comes out nowadays etc. etc. But I've got love for Ridin' Dirty ( :ashamed: ) 'cos it's what happens to us whenever we're trying to skin up in an abandoned car park or summin.

[.invurzion.]

Not really a fan of his album, but his flow is nice for some reason. I guess it's just his tone and the way everything comes out is the reason that I like it ... but he suffers from Paul Wall Syndrome ... he's says the same thing in EVERY SONG. It just gets repetative listening to him talk about candy paint, screw, lean, syrup, purple, and all that other Houston slang. I mean, I know the rhyme scheme varies ... and others do the same thing ... but fuck - it's just tiresome sometimes.

:soapbox:

I'm done.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

Exactly what I was thinking, mate. He keeps saying 'Sound of Revenge' and 'Chamilitary man' over and over and over again too :grr:

The hooks are AWFUL too.

[.invurzion.]

http://rapidshare.de/files/25873949/VA-Young_Jeezy-Snowman-2006-RAGEMP3.rar.html

DJ Kayslay and Young Jeezy - Snowman (Mixtape) 2006 - it's on rapidshare. :/

:yes: Glad that someone else agrees with me.

[Hack]

Anybody have Sex Packets by Digital Underground? Next time I see it anywhere, I might buy it ... I loved what I have heard.

[Stringer Bell]

Invursion.. wanna hit me with that Saigon tape? He's a NY MC by the way bro, but I can see where you would've been thrown off since it's a DJ Drama mixtape.

And I definitely agree with you about Chamillionaire, but on the same token.. that's pretty much what I think of Young Jeezy as well. He's always got the same monotone flow, and all you ever hear him talk about is cocaine and living in the "trap". I'd even go as far as to call him one of the most overrated rappers out right now..

[.invurzion.]

Oh ... don't get me wrong, I know Jeezy uses that same formula. The problem is, I still listen to it. I'm in a southern hip hop phase at the moment. I have nothing but Jeezy, T.I. Rick Ross, Three 6 Mafia, Lil' Yola, Lil' Wayne, and anything else you can think of.

I'll get over it soon enough.

And I did just listen to that Pharrell CD too - and agreed with the Buck - he should have kept that shit in the studio.

I'll up that Saigon in about 30 min.

[Stringer Bell]

Thanks man, take your time.

[.invurzion.]

DJ Drama and Saigon - Welcome to Saigon (http://rapidshare.de/files/25908857/DJ_Drama_And_Saigon-Gangsta_Grillz_Welcome_To_Saigon-Bonus_CD-Bootleg-2006-VINYL.rar.html)

Enjoy!

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

Will download that, too. Haven't had a chance to listen to the Snowman yet... but I flicked through that J-5 album and it's pretty nice.

[Stringer Bell]

Thanks dude :yes:

[TRO]

Feedback is brilliant. Cut Chemist, schmut schmemist.

Thanks again for that site, Buck, I just downloaded like a dozen albums I've been waiting to hear. And Pigeon John, too!

[QuietStorm]

Pigeon John!

[Hack]

TRO/anyone else, is the Lifesavas album any good? Jumbo's production on that Lyrics Born remix album is great.

Also, I'm tempted to start a "Greatest rap group ever?" thread ...

[TRO]

Spirit in Stone is one of my favorite albums, very good for a debut. In fact, it's pretty similar in quality to Same Shit, Different Day. Lotta dope beats and down to earth rhymes. The Quannum posse cut with DJ Shadow production is kind of lame, although I suppose it just didn't meet my high expectations. The rest of the album is great, especially "Hellohihey" and "Me"... Hell, I'll send the whole thing to you sometime.

I don't know who does the production, can't find my liner notes, but I think it's a tag team of Jumbo and DJ Rev Shines. Shines is a cool guy, I smoked him out once, and he has some good mixtapes out, if you can find them.


And it's the Sugarhill Gang, duhhhh.

[Morrison]

Buck, shoot me that link, if you could.

[QuietStorm]

Getting in on that whole Top Ten since 1996 thing:


Talib Kweli - Reflection Eternal
Masta Ace - Disposable Arts
Canibus - MiClub: The Curriculum
Aesop Rock - Float
Mobb Deep - Murda Musik
Common - Electric Circus
Eminem - The Slim Shady LP
Nas - Stillmatic
Cage - Hell's Winter
The Roots - Things Fall Apart

[Hack]

I am 99.9% sure I hear a RADIOHEAD sample on "Atonement" from the new Roots album. I think I hear "You and Whose Army" in the background.

Seriously, how awesome is that? Really awesome, I say.

[Hack]

"What's the Attitude" from that Cut Chemist disc might be my hip-hop song of 2006 thus far. Classic.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

Can't remember what year all of these came out, but my top ten since 96 in order...

10. Dead Prez - Let's Get Free
9. Eminem - The Slim Shady LP
8. Common - Like Water For Chocolate
7. Scarface - The Fix
6. NaS - Stillmatic
5. Dr. Dre - 2001
4. 2Pac - All Eyez On Me
3. Jay-Z - The Blueprint
2. The Notorious B.I.G. - Life After Death
1. Makaveli - Don Killuminati: 7 Day Theory

Probably forgotten something... that'll do.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

Speaking of 7 Day Theory, I listened to Troublesome '96 for the first time in years today, I forgot how bad-arse that song was, vicious.

[.invurzion.]

Common's "Like Water For Chocolate" is fucking classic. I just DL'd it again for the first time in a couple of years to get it back. It's just crazy how fluid and lyrical this man is. Nice choice Flow. Actually, your list is pretty much what I might put up there. OB4CL would have to substitute somewhere in there ... I mean it's a given. :yes:

[Stringer Bell]

Speaking of top albums of all time... check my thread in the Listening Room...

[spanish announce table]

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Been playing this album a lot lately. Tracks like 'Focus', '3 Card Molly', 'Chamber Music', and 'Recycled Assassins' are some of the best songs X has done.

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah, that's a great album, so was At The Speed of Life. I miss that Xzibit.

[TRO]

I wish Busdriver drove my bus.

[.invurzion.]

I remember somewhere in this thread there was some discussion about Redman's "Whut...Thee Album"

Enjoy: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3925NV1R

Don't know if it has been posted in here already, but figured that it can't hurt...

[Stringer Bell]

That album's fantastic. I wish Redman still came with that style, unfortunately he disappoints me more often than not these days.

I really, really like the new Boot Camp Click album, had to go pick it up today. Sure, it's not like the Duck Down glory days, but it's still better than most stuff that comes out these days. Some great production on there, but I would've liked more Beatminerz (only 1 track), and as much as I like him, 9th Wonder doesn't really suite their style.

Also picked up a used copy of The Root's Phrenology, which I haven't heard in a long while. Just awesome stuff, they've gotta be one of the, if not the, most consistent groups in hip-hop. "Water" :heart:

Also, it really pisses me off how hard it is to find BIG's Ready To Die these days. I still have the case and everything, but someone stole my disc long ago. Now it's out of print, and you're lucky to find a used copy sitting around somewhere. I saw one last week for $7 (!!!) but didn't have cash on me, and today it was gone :(

[.invurzion.]

And for those that aren't financial inclined to go and pick up the album ...

http://www.easy-sharing.com/565053/Boot_Camp_Clik-The_Last_Stand-2006.rar.html

:yes:

Album is just lovely...

[Fro]

Since there's mad albums being shared.... here's somethin from me.


Big L - Harlem's Finest: A Freestyle History
http://www.geocities.com/cb_version2/pictures/BigL/big-l13.jpg

http://rapidshare.de/files/26356138/Harlem_s_Finest__A_Freestyle_History.rar.html


I'm sure a lot of you have this, but for those who don't... enjoy. It's definitely my favorite Big L shit.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

You lot rule linking to all this shit.

Buck, I got Ready to Die for like £5... which must be roughly $8.

I'll sell it to you on ebay for 20 :D

Seriously shit hot album, I think I'd punch anyone who stole it off me.

[.invurzion.]

Also, it really pisses me off how hard it is to find BIG's Ready To Die these days. I still have the case and everything, but someone stole my disc long ago. Now it's out of print, and you're lucky to find a used copy sitting around somewhere. I saw one last week for $7 (!!!) but didn't have cash on me, and today it was gone :(


You trying to get the CD ... or the official disc? I mean, you know I got you if you need the album ... I just don't have the actual disc. I feel the same way about it though, I would rather have the case and CD for that classic.

[Hack]

OK, new topic:

Best Hip-Hop Albums From 1/1/2000 to 7/21/2006

Here are a few candidates I'd like to throw out there ... I'm not sure if these are my choices, but they are certainly a few you have to consider ...

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[.invurzion.]

Damn server issues ... had to edit. And yes, Hack, an answer to your topic. Just a few of the ones that I would put out there though. I could probably name more if I had some more thought into it ...

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The Grey Album is just phenomenal...

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Like I stated earlier ... this album is lovely. "The Questions" "Nag Champa" ... :heart: Common.

[Hack]

I'm assuming that isn't an answer to my question, even though it certainly seems like it is ...

[.invurzion.]

Anyone heard this diss by Ludacris? Apparently he is just going hard at someone over a samplet that I just can't place. The beat just seems perfect and Luda flows on this shit like crazy. Like I said, I'm so into this southern rap thing right now and anything that I listen to just seems like more crack for my habit. Have a listen...

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=E6CAFBAD62BBECA2

Reading up on some sites, Luda comes out and says that he isn't really dissing anyone in the song, instead he is going at himself. I don't know if I believe that or not, but the end result of this track is worth it never the less.

Oh ... and another mixtape for you guys:

Tapemasters Inc - Codeine Hits: http://rapidshare.de/files/26506999/VA-Tapemasters_Inc-Codeine_Hitz-_TBOHipHop.net_-2006.rar

Here is the tracklist:

01. Dre Feat. Rick Ross Fat Joe The Game Pusha T And Dirtbag - Chevy Ridin High (Remix)
02. Ludacris Feat. Pharrell - Money Maker
03. Clipse Feat. Slim Thug - Wamp Wamp (What It Do)
04. Yung Joc Feat. Rick Ross Slim Thug Jody Breeze And Diddy - Its Going Down (Remix)
05. Lil' Jon Feat. Smitty E-40 And Sean Paul - Snap Ya Fingers
06. Lil' Wayne Feat. Baby - Stuntin Like My Daddy
07. Young Dro Feat. T.I. - Shoulder Lean
08. Project Pat - Good Googly Moogly
09. Outkast - The Mighty O
10. Dem Franchise Boys - Ridin Rims
11. Bohagon Feat. Crime Mob And D4L - Wuz Up
12. Cherish Feat. Jody Breeze Yung Joc Chingy And Fabo - Do It To It (Remix)
13. Letoya Feat. Mike Jones And Rick Ross - Torn (Remix)
14. Chingy Feat. Tyrese - Pullin Me Back
15. Janet Jackson Feat. Nelly - Call On Me
16. Shareefa Feat. Ludacris - Need A Boss
17. Gucci Mane - Go Head Shawty
18. Clipse Feat. Pharrell - Mr. Me Too
19. T.I. - Why U Wanna
20. Rick Ross Feat. Dre - Blow
21. Bubba Sparkxxx - Heat It Up
22. E-40 Feat. T-Pain - U And Dat
23. Pitbull - Bojangles
24. Trick Daddy - I Pop
25. Ciara Feat. Chamillionaire - Get Up
26. Rick Ross Feat. Jay-Z And Young Jeezy - Hustlin (Remix)

Anyone else want anything?

[Hack]

Those albums aren't all from 2000 on. In fact, I'm pretty sure only The Grey Album fits in that timeframe.

Edit: Wait, LWFC is 2000.

Those are all excellent albums, don't get me wrong. I own them all (well, I just have a copy of The Grey Album) and they all kick my ass.

[.invurzion.]

Those albums aren't all from 2000 on. In fact, I'm pretty sure only The Grey Album fits in that timeframe.

Edit: Wait, LWFC is 2000.

Those are all excellent albums, don't get me wrong. I own them all (well, I just have a copy of The Grey Album) and they all kick my ass.

Oh damn ... I'm telling you, I SAW 1990-2000. Sorry bout that Hack. Will edit...

[Fro]

Best Hip-Hop Albums From 1/1/2000 to 7/21/2006



In no order...

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[.invurzion.]

Loved that Marshall Mathers LP. I still bump "Criminal" every now and then for some crazy reason.

This album dropped on 11/19/1999 ... so I guess this can count to.

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Dr. Dre - Chronic 2001

[Hack]

I never did buy Lord Willin'. I loved the singles, though. And Stankonia obviously deserves to be mentioned. I just forgot it.

[Fro]

Lord Willin' was a fantastic album. Probably not on most people's "Best of" lists, but it definately makes mine. Made The Neptunes' stock go way up in my book.

"Virginia" is my shit.

And yea, I had to check when 2001 dropped. Would've been on there if it was eligible.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

Inv, was that song War With God by Luda?? Buck mentioned it the other day and said it was a T.I diss or summin.

I would put LWFC, Blueprint etc. on my list of 2000 onwards... wasn't The Fix in 2000 as well??

[.invurzion.]

Yeah, it was "War With God." I really didn't think that it was towards T.I. though ... if it was - then I'm all for it. It might rekindle that fire that was on the end of "Stomp" from Youngbuck's "$traight Outta Cashville" album.

Luda: "So please stay of the T.I.P. of my diiiiiiiiiiiiiaaaaack..."

Thanks for the info. Here is that interview with Luda bout the song that I was reading: http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.4289

[Stringer Bell]

It was rumored to be a TI diss, but he never actually calls him out directly, so it's debatable.

And yeah, I meant the actual BIG disc... I've definitely got the album on mp3, but I like having a nice CD collection

My favorite albums since 2000.. (there's quite a few, got a little carried away, but I love all of these albums)..



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[Stringer Bell]

Some more that wouldn't fit...

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Lots of other stuff I love, like Ghostface - Pretty Toney, Cunninlynguists - A Piece of Strange, Nas - Street's Disciple, Jay-Z - The Black/Grey Album, etc... but I figured I picked enough as it is ;)

[TRO]

My favorite albums of whenever:

10. DJ Quik - Quik is The Name
9. Lifesavas - Spirit in Stone
8. Outkast - Stankonia
7. Dead Prez - RBG
6. Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the 36 Chambers
5. MF Doom - MM.. Food
4. DJ Shadow - Endtroducing...
3. De La Soul - Three Feet High and Rising
2. Mos Def - Black on Both Sides
1. Blackalicious - Blazing Arrow

Bear in mind that I started listening to hip-hop in 2003 and haven't really been exposed to enough of it.

[spanish announce table]

Anyone have a link to Masta Killa's album?

[.invurzion.]

I have a link to "No Said Date."

http://rapidshare.de/files/21954971/nosaiddate.rar

[TRO]

Masta Killa: http://fileleecher.com/?id=93861886

BTW, "The Book of Daniel" is hardcore. I don't know if you want to call it a diss track or spleen venting or what, but Grimm really ripped Doom a new one. That guy must be crazy, putting out 7 minutes of putdowns and recriminations after Doom wrote one little line about MIC...

[cuttups]

My five big Hip Hop Albums of this summer have been:

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/0/01/200px-Revolutionary_Vol_1.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000UX58E.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://www.meshmag.com/uploaded_images/dangerdoom-712751.jpg

http://images.musicmp3.ru/bcovers/alb174.jpg

http://www.rhymesayers.com/assets/images/products/28.jpg

[spanish announce table]

Thanks to TRO for the link

1. Then & Now - Masta & GZA's kids have talent, but it would have been better to hear then rocking it alongside them. This beat is serious. 7.5/10

2. ENY House - I like the horn loop, but there should have been some change-up in the middle. Good track, short and to the point. 7/10

3. Brooklyn King - I dont mind the stripped-down beat, but there isnt enough going on here lyrically. I guess this could be called Digi-Warfare II. 6.5/10

4. Its What It Is - Love this track. Ghost and Rae contribute great verses, and the PF Cuttin beat is effective. 8.5/10

5. Nehanda & Cream - The talking at the start is unnecessary. The smooth beat provided by Bronze suits Masta perfectly. 7.5/10

6. Iron God Chamber - Wasnt digging this when I heard the snippet, but much like Radioactive off Iron Flag, this grew on me. Good to hear U-God back in form, and Meth kills it. 8/10

7. Pass the Bone Remix - MK's ode to smoking over a smooth Al Green sample. 7.5/10

8. Older Gods Pt. 2 - There is way too much talking on the track, and Pete Rock's beat sounds uninspired. Thankfully MK holds it down lyrically. 6.5/10

9. Lets Get Into Something - This is the same guy that sang on Love Spell, and I really wasnt looking forward to hearing him again. He has an alright voice, but he goes on for way too long. 5.5/10

10. Street Corner - Very lazy to pick the same beat that was on the Think Differently album, but I'd take these 3 MC's over the original 3 any day. One of Bronze's best beats, and I'm excited to hear if Deck can finally make that album he's capable of. 10/10

11. Ringing Bells - Bronze should have done the entire album. His style fits MK perfectly. 9/10

12. East MCs - 5 MCs over a nice beat, with Masta & Killa Sin having the best verses. Prodigal Sunn should have got on this instead of Free Murda. 8/10

13. Lovely Lady - Masta Xcitement? I dont listen to much reggae, but this is just bad. 2/10

It took Masta 10 years to drop No Said Date, and maybe he should have waited more than 2 years to make this album. This isnt a flop, but just when you get a few good tracks in a row, you get smacked with something lame. If NSD is his Cuban Linx, MIB is his Immobilarity. 7.5/10


On the other hand, BCC's The Last Stand is dope. I'm still relatively new to the Duck Down crew, but Louieville is by far the weakest member.

[Stringer Bell]

Damn, didn't expect to see you of all people not enjoying this... I'm loving it. I'm only on "Older Gods 2", but every track before this was dope. I could've done without the kids rhyming on track one, but the beat's nice. But yeah, that "Lovely Lady" is horrible.

I do agree that Bronze should've done more production. He's on fire right now, I haven't heard a bad, or even average, beat from that guy. He better do some joints on Raekwon's album, "Nehanda and Cream" is the kind of shit I want to hear him rapping on. Vatican 2 has some promising tracks.

And yeah, the BCC is good stuff, love the production on there. "He Gave His Life" is one of my favorite songs right now.

[Hack]

My five big Hip Hop Albums of this summer have been:

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http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000UX58E.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://www.meshmag.com/uploaded_images/dangerdoom-712751.jpg

http://images.musicmp3.ru/bcovers/alb174.jpg

http://www.rhymesayers.com/assets/images/products/28.jpg




I'm bored enough that I'll play this game. I go through phases where all I listen to is hip-hop and others where I don't really listen to that much and this summer has been almost all hip-hop ...

Top 5 Hip-Hop Albums of the Summer

Public Enemy's Fear of a Black Planet
Public Enemy's Apocalypse 91 ... The Enemy Strikes Back
Public Enemy's It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Cut Chemist's The Audience's Listening
The Roots' Do You Want More?!?!?!?!

Clearly, I fell in love with PE in the last few months ...

[spanish announce table]

Damn, didn't expect to see you of all people not enjoying this... I'm loving it. I'm only on "Older Gods 2", but every track before this was dope. I could've done without the kids rhyming on track one, but the beat's nice. But yeah, that "Lovely Lady" is horrible.

Brooklyn King & Older Gods just need better beats. Get Into Something & Lovely Lady just suck. Other than that, this album bangs. Its just a bit of a letdown because MK is my favorite Wu member after GZA.

But as far as WU sophomore releases go:
Supreme Clientele
Beneath the Surface
Made In Brooklyn
Tical 2000
Nigga Please
The Movement
Immobilarity
Digital Bullet
Mr Xcitement

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Alright, making a list of what albums I need to pick up in the next few months, yes I do actually buy the cd's, because it makes me feel better, and it's just something I do :-P

Anyway, the list currently:

Masta Killah - Made In Brooklyn
J-Dilla - The Shining
Lupe Fiasco - Food & Liquor
The Roots - Game Theory

Then there's three I've come across today just scanning, are they proper albums? Any previews?

Little Brother - Seperate But Equal
Inspectah Deck - Resident Patient
Jazze Pha & Cee-Lo - Happy Hour (Just love Cee-Lo)

Any thoughts?

[Stringer Bell]

All your picks are good, I definitely plan on buying those four albums as well.

The Little Brother is a mixtape, it's supposed to be good stuff. Don't have a link.

Inspectach Deck is a new album, but it hasn't leaked yet.

Don't know much about the Jazze/Cee-Lo project, but it sounds interesting.

[Fro]

we at the weedgate, waitin for jake
we want eight ravioli bags, two thirsty villians yelling 'bellyaches'

Sorry but I needed to post that.

Good list. I didn't even hear about that new INS.

[Stringer Bell]

RIJ, I also recommend the Pack FM album, Whutduzfmstand4?. Really good stuff.

Also been listening to Oh No's Exodus Into Unheard Rhythms a lot.

[Hack]

The more I listen to it, the more I love that first Soul Position record. After two albums and an EP, I still don't think RJD2 and Blueprint have put together the kind of album they are capable of making, but 8 Million Stories and Things Go Better With RJ and Al are both really damn good. In a perfect world, "I'm Free" is a top 40 smash.

[TRO]

When I get a chance, I'm gonna upload this dope mixtape I bought: DJ Wicked - Fuck the Radio Vol. 1... This guy's just a cool local dj, but it's so great, he's got all these MCs calling in just to say "Fuck the Radio" and mocking clearchannel stations and shit... Plus the tracklist is awesome:

1. Rammin' 59.5 Intro
2. Fuck the Radio - DJ Wicked
3. Hold You Down - Alchemist Feat: Prodigy
4. The Best Form - Krondon
5. Off Top - Supernatural
6. I Wish You Would - Royce Da 5'9" & Canibus
7. Secret Wars - Last Emperor (Prince Paul Mix)
8. Fatal Mistake - Sly Boogy & Promoe (DJ Wicked Blend)
9. Metro Attitude - Masta Ace
10. Shook Ones Part 2 - Mobb Deep (DJ Wicked Blend)
11. If You Got Love - Non Phixion (Produced by Pete Rock)
12. Got it Like That - Abstract Rude
13. Hit Em' Off - Zion I feat: Triple Threat DJ's
14. Let Em' Have it - KRS One
15. License 2 Ill - Ill Bill & DJ JS1
16. What's Fuckin' Wit Us - Raekwon (Produced by Chops)
17. 4+1 - Chino XL & DJ Revolution
18. Sometimes - Dujeous
19. Scratch Interlude - DJ Wicked
20. High Energy - 3rd Degree
21. Kill Your Radio - Sleep & Boom Bap Project (DJ Wicked re-work)
22. It Aint' Hart to Tell - Nas (Danger Mouse Mix)
23. Pounds for Dollars - Rakaa Iriscience of Dialated Peoples
24. Don't Nobody Care About Us - Phat Kat aka Ronnie Cash (Produced by Jay Dee)
25. Tears - Baby Black
26. Keep it Real FM - Skit
27. Left It To Us - Cage, Aesop Rock, Yak Balls, EL-P, Tame One
28. Mike, Aaron & Eddie - Haiku D'Etat
29. Imaginary Places - Busdriver
30. Imaginary Scratches - DJ Wicked
31. 1-2 Punch - Supernatural
32. Any Champion - Pacewon & DJ Revolution (DJ Sat One Mix)
33. Daylight - Aesop Rock
34. Understandable Smooth - Ras Kass

Or you can stick it to the man and buy it yourself at www.justplainterror.com $10 I think, worth every penny.

[QuietStorm]

Nice looking.

[cuttups]

I'm bored enough that I'll play this game. I go through phases where all I listen to is hip-hop and others where I don't really listen to that much and this summer has been almost all hip-hop ...

Top 5 Hip-Hop Albums of the Summer

Public Enemy's Fear of a Black Planet
Public Enemy's Apocalypse 91 ... The Enemy Strikes Back
Public Enemy's It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Cut Chemist's The Audience's Listening
The Roots' Do You Want More?!?!?!?!

Clearly, I fell in love with PE in the last few months ...

It Takes A Nation.... is one of the best albums of all time. She Watches Channel Zero is definately my favorite from them. Good Stuff

[Raw Is Jonathan]

RIJ, I also recommend the Pack FM album, Whutduzfmstand4?. Really good stuff.

I may just do that, thank you.

[Hack]

It Takes A Nation.... is one of the best albums of all time. She Watches Channel Zero is definately my favorite from them. Good Stuff



What is insane is that they topped it with their next album. I doubt anyone (probably not even Chuck D) thought it was even possible.

[cuttups]

I agree 100%. Everyone in the world talks about how great PE is, but its still not enough.

[ICHIBAN~!]

PE Motherfucker.

[MervKlitschko]

What did you all think of the Minstrel Show by Little Brother?

[Stringer Bell]

It's a really good album, but I like The Listening more.

[MervKlitschko]

Do you think my gigantic collection of No Limit albums will be worth something in a few years?

I got all the classics from Mac and Soulja Slim all the way down to Mercedez and Skull Duggery.

[Hack]

PE Motherfucker.


Exactly.

[Avernus]

MF Doom....

[Hack]

Is awesome?

[Avernus]

Is awesome?
:yes:

[Stringer Bell]

Do you think my gigantic collection of No Limit albums will be worth something in a few years?

I got all the classics from Mac and Soulja Slim all the way down to Mercedez and Skull Duggery.

:lol: I'm not sure if you were serious or not, but that cover to the Skull Duggery album has to be one of the most laughably bad album covers of all time.. I still get a kick out of it today.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000C0A3.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V1115857915_.jpg

Skull Duggery obviously comes from the hardest block in America. Just look at all those flames and the beat up cop car. Still, nothing beats the glare effect on the dog's eye. Classic.

[Avernus]

:lol: I'm not sure if you were serious or not, but that cover to the Skull Duggery album has to be one of the most laughably bad album covers of all time.. I still get a kick out of it today.

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Skull Duggery obviously comes from the hardest block in America. Just look at all those flames and the beat up cop car. Still, nothing beats the glare effect on the dog's eye. Classic.

if I ever walked on his block..I would shit myself....

that spot is obviously run by demons and fire monsters..

[MervKlitschko]

:lol: I'm not sure if you were serious or not, but that cover to the Skull Duggery album has to be one of the most laughably bad album covers of all time.. I still get a kick out of it today.

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Skull Duggery obviously comes from the hardest block in America. Just look at all those flames and the beat up cop car. Still, nothing beats the glare effect on the dog's eye. Classic.

i'm dead serious.

I got bored once and bought a couple of Master P albums. I thought the liner notes were so friggin funny that I started collecting them. Let' see what I have off the top of my head:

3 Silkk Da Shocker albums
3 Mystikal albums (no limit stuff, not his jive records)
Mac - Shell Shocked
Mr. Serv-on - Da Next Level
both Snoop albums
Couple of C-murder albums
Charlie Hustle (AKA e-40 I believe)
Ghetto Commission (who do a great rap version of dead or alive by Bon Jovi)
Mr. Magic (had a couple of good tracks amongst all the crap)
Fiend
Mia X (god she was terrible)
Kane and Abel (who i gotta admit was one of the 2 or 3 best artists on NL)

i'm sure there's others, but by far my favorite NL album that I found for 3 bucks is the great LIL Soldiers

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[MervKlitschko]

http://www.meantime-jp.com/JacketPics/NoLimit/RearEnd.jpg


'yeahhhhhhhhh

[MervKlitschko]

Some other good ones:

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[Avernus]

I despised no limit growing up.....

wu tang should have gotten the attention that they did...before they fell off...

[ICHIBAN~!]

KRS' new album is pretty fuckin' sweet. Just as expected.

[Morrison]

Those covers may look like shit, but fuck did the company who created them make a shitload of money.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

KRS' new album is pretty fuckin' sweet. Just as expected.

Step Into the World is my shit :heart: KRS

Don't suppose you've got a link old bean??

[Morrison]

So Cut Chemist's album seems to be a bit more entertaining then the new J5 record. I'm digging Feedback, no doubt, but the guys don't have that energy of the other albums. Quality Control was the stand-out, 'look at us' record, Power In Bumbers was the mature record, so they're in line for a transitional release, but still a little disappointing.

[Stringer Bell]

Haha, classic No Limit covers. Little Soldiers!

Lots of producers have put out good albums recently. Oh No, Nicolay, Belief, Cut Chemist, DILLA, then DJ Shadow's upcoming album..

Speaking of Shadow, www.sumish.com has a nice mp3 of a song with Phonte from Little Brother. It's interesting to say the least, it's got a classic rock vibe, Shadow's album is looking promising, "hyphy" or not. Check it out.

[Morrison]

Dr. Octagon is coming up here in September, I believe. Probably will try and check that show out.

Also, in November, a Stones Throw 10 Year Anniversary concert with Madlib, Peanut Butter Wolf and Oh No, plus others. That show should be awesome.

[Myron Hardy]

Obie Trice - Second Rounds on Me

From the first few listen throughs, I'd give it a 8/10.

Maybe I'll do a little write up in a little bit.

[MervKlitschko]

Dr. Octagon is coming up here in September, I believe. Probably will try and check that show out.

Also, in November, a Stones Throw 10 Year Anniversary concert with Madlib, Peanut Butter Wolf and Oh No, plus others. That show should be awesome.



Keith is dope live

[Myron Hardy]

1. Intro - It's an intro.

2. Wake Up - Sounds like it's produced by Eminem. Em does the chorus as well. I like the beat, rhymes are good, definately a good song. 8/10

3. Violent - Again sounds like Em produced. Decent beat. Familiar heat from Obie, I must also say I'm a huge fan of his first CD. I consider it a classic. This song gets a 7/10, just kind of a slow song for him saying he's violent.

4. Wanna Know - I could have sworn I've heard this song on a different beat. I hate to sound stupid but it sounds like the Doors for some reason, I have no clue who it is though. Crazy beat though I like it. 9/10

5. Lay Down - Again Em produced I think. Nice beat, Obie raps fast on this, I don't recall him ever rapping like this. It's nice, fresh. 8/10

6. Snitch feat. Akon - Akon is probably the only R&B singer I can stand to listen to. Definately a good song since I guess it's the lead single. Great song, good beat, good lyrics. 9/10

7. Cry Now - Great song, I love the beat, even though it has a sample in it. Obie kills it. 9/10

8. Ballad of Obie Trice - I love this song. The beat is great, lyrics are tight. That's all I can say on this one. Best song on the CD. 10/10

9. Jamacian Girl feat. Brick and Lace - Catchy song, will probably be on the radio. It's not horrible or anything but probably the worst song on the CD IMO. 6/10

10. Kill Me a Mutha - Awesome beat, I love it. Small Scarface sample at the beggining. And of course Obie kills it. 8/10

11. Out of State - Crazy guitarish beat, Obie rapping fast again. Chorus is kinda boring though. Decent song though. 7/10

12. All of My Life feat. Nate Dogg - How can you hate on a song featuring Nate Dogg. Definately a party song, beats good, Nate rips it. Obie kills it once again. Sounds like an old school West Coast party song. 9/10

13. Ghetto feat. Trey Songz - Sounds like it should be in a "Carmen" type of movie. Not great, not bad either. 6/10

14. There They Go feat. Eminem, Big Herc, Trick Trick - Great beat, great lyrics, new Eminem shit. Awesome song. Beats crazy, possibly produced by Em as well. 10/10

15. Mama feat. Trey Songz - I don't like this song too much, sounds like an 80's TV show beat. R&B'ish. I'd give it 6/10

16. 24's - Reminds me way too much of T.I. for some reason, whom I hate to death. Obie raps fast again. Probably one of the lesser songs, 6/10

17. Every Where I Go feat. 50 Cent - Sounds like Em produced as well. Not a bad beat. This really isn't much of a party CD. Thankfully 50 only does the chorus. 7/10

18. Obie Story - Artsy kinda song, good beat though. Obie talks about ghetto life. Not a bad song though 8/10

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

Soooooooooo

The other day I invested £5/$8(?) on Talib Kweli's Quality.

Money well spent?

I'm about to listen to it.

[Stringer Bell]

A Shady/Aftermath album leaks and some random member pops up in here to "review" it. Not suprised.

I'll check out the album, Obie's better than a lot of mainstream nonsense out today.

One part of your review I'm still not understanding, Myron... "Great song, I love the beat, even though it has a sample in it." :wtf: :wtf:

Flow 3000, it's not my favorite Talib album, but I'd say it's worth the purchase. I need to grab a copy of that as well.

[ICHIBAN~!]

Step Into the World is my shit :heart: KRS

Don't suppose you've got a link old bean??
Afraid I don't. It's probably on OiNK or the usual torrent sites. I could YSI if you're having trouble finding it.

[Hack]

OK, so I bought Mecca and the Soul Brother the other day and am just now listening to it for the first time ...

It. Is. Fucking. Awesome.

Thanks, Buck, for helping influence my decision to buy it. You owed me one after I turned you on to Maggot Brain, now we're even.

[Stringer Bell]

:yes: Hell yeah man, I'm glad you're enjoying it. Definitely top 10 material for me, no matter the time. The Main Ingredient is really good as well, you should go after that one next.

I still wanna know what Myron Hardy meant when he mentioned the Obie single used a sample, as it if were a bad thing. Myron, do you actually listen to rap music or just Shady/Aftermath?

[Deranged]

Can't wait for Papoose's new cd. 1.5 Million dollar man. Anyone PAPOOSE fans here?

If you wanna see his work download songs from him like:

What you know about pap
monopoly
bang out

[Winkle van Tinkle]

Just got Pharrell's album. Well worth the 18 minutes spent downloading it :yes:

[.invurzion.]

Not a big fan of Pharrell's album myself. :no: You can keep it.

And I have that Papoose album, 1.5 Million Dollar Man if anyone wants it. It's more commercial than I expected from Papoose ... but his griminess is still present in certain areas.

[Stringer Bell]

I think Papoose is highly overrated myself. He has his moments, but he doesn't deserve all the hype he's been getting (mostly due to DJ Kay Slay's overexposure). He's not versatile at all, and I have doubts that he can make a quality album.

One up-and-coming New Yorker that does spark my interest is Saigon. Like Pap, I've gotta wonder how he'll come off on a full length album, but he's made it a habit of dropping quality mixtape stuff. The guy's flow is insane, if he can just decide whether he wants to go the conscious or gangster route, he's got the skills to be one of the most talked about NY MC's.

[Deranged]

I like what you know about pap here's some lyrics:

"Pull a gun out me i say lets die, yous a snitch i seen you testify
no you aint a g who repped his sty, lil nigga you a P-U-S-S-Y PUSSY!
So many pussy's in the rap industry man im getting hornier
Im gettin nicer, these niggas gettin cornier"

"I'm usin my head to get you in between the sheets
Not that head
The head that never thinks"

Invursion...you mean like you're giving it away or uploading it?

[TRO]

Papoose is a nobody.

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah, I never saw all the hype in Papoose. He is better than some shit like Rick Ross, Young Joc, or whatever else is the hot thing right now, and I could understand if he was respected on that sort of level. But I've seen shit on other forums where idiots have compared him to Big L, even Rakim... that's just ridiculous. Papoose hasn't put out an album, and when he does I'm betting it'll be very mediocre. We'll see, he could prove me wrong... but with Just Blaze backing Saigon, he looks like he's going to be the NY debut of the year.

Onto bigger and better shit, I love old Boot Camp shit. Black Moon, Smif-N-Wesson, Heltah Skeltah, and OGC's debut's are all classic material as far as I'm concerned. Is there a better smoking song than Black Moon's "Shit Iz Real"? I think not..

Check out each of these albums if you haven't. These guys could've been on a Wu-Tang level, but they fell off hard and no one seemed to care when they came back with quality stuff. Similar to Wu, nothing beats the original debuts.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000000ZSY.01._SCTHUMBZZZ_.jpg (http://anonym.to/?http://rapidshare.de/files/18379901/BMEDS.rar.html)http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000003AB5.01._SCTHUMBZZZ_.jpg (http://anonym.to/?http://rapidshare.de/files/18937309/HSN.rar.html)http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000000ZT1.01._SCTHUMBZZZ_.jpg (http://anonym.to/?http://rapidshare.de/files/18583780/SNWDS.rar.html)http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000003AD4.01._SCTHUMBZZZ_.jpg (http://rapidshare.de/files/18944979/OGCDS.rar.html)

Not my links, but enjoy. All four are great albums, especially the first three.. some of my favorites. If you like them, go buy a few.. support the good stuff..

[Deranged]

Papoose is a nobody.
Blasphemy!!

Care to explain man?

[Stringer Bell]

Read one of my two posts... then download some good ol' real shit from Boot Camp.

[.invurzion.]

I like what you know about pap here's some lyrics:

"Pull a gun out me i say lets die, yous a snitch i seen you testify
no you aint a g who repped his sty, lil nigga you a P-U-S-S-Y PUSSY!
So many pussy's in the rap industry man im getting hornier
Im gettin nicer, these niggas gettin cornier"

"I'm usin my head to get you in between the sheets
Not that head
The head that never thinks"

Invursion...you mean like you're giving it away or uploading it?

Like ... I got a link that you could download it from.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4331/2for1019077198068ts.jpg
Click here (http://rapidshare.de/files/25817287/Papoose-The_1.5_Million_Dollar_Man__TBOHipHop.net-c4.rar)

And this isn't an actual retail album ... it's just a mixtape with KaySlay. And I have to agree with Buck on this - although I do like some of the tracks that Papoose has come out with (his verse on the "Touch It" remix with Busta was the best out of the whole bunch...) I'm really not sold on him. He is too one-dimesional and will NEVER live up to the hype that Kay Slay has put on him.

And agreeing with another point, Saigon is leagues above Pap without the hype. Check back a couple of pages for a Saigon mixtape that I put a link up for...

On another topic, since we were talking about the Wu and Masta Killa's album earlier. Just copped a link to Inspectah Deck's new album Resident Patient. Haven't really given it a listen yet. Let me know what you guys think...

http://rapidshare.de/files/27265184/Inspectah_Deck-The_Resident_Patient-2006-by_killa_kid.rar.html

[.invurzion.]

Read one of my two posts... then download some good ol' real shit from Boot Camp.

Please listen to this man! I finally listened to the whole album ... and I'm actually just listening to it again. Boot Camp is just fucking phenomenal...

And just reading dude's post about Papoose's lyrics made me wonder why the Freestyle battle just stopped? I remember Seanny just disappearing for a while and it just lost it's appeal. Anyone feel like starting that back up? I thought it was pretty good shit.

[Deranged]

To BuckMarley (http://forums.rajah.com/member.php?u=18163) from my friend JDawg, who's awaiting activation:

Obviously, Buck Marley you have no intelligence with what you said about Papoose not being versatile. That's the most assinine,retarded thing I have ever read about him in my life. You doubt that he can make a quality album? ahahahaha you crack me up. It is most certainly evident that you have no knowledge on the topic of which you speak.

If you actually took the time to listen to any one of his fifteen mixtapes you would realize that there is no hype just talent. Not versatile? That is laughable. That's why he can rip any beat he is given, drop knowledge constantly with an extraordinary vocabulary, gaining a chic fanbase while still keeping it raw, he has excellent punchlines, for example:
"I'm like an air conditioner, I'll make you lose your fans." - Papoose on You Ain't Nice, Moment of Silence mixtape.

He can keep it g while keeping a message going such as: "Next time you hear the tunderstorm feel the wind/ They say thats when the sky opens up to the let the dead people in//" - Papoose on Return of the Living Dead, A Bootleggers Nightmare mixtape

He is constantly played in the city, and he has the whole city backing him. You're obviously a hater or you just hate to see somebody with talent succeed, more than I can say for your shitty Boot Camp you guys dick ride on.

There is a reason that labels are offering him bigger deals than 50 Cent's first deal on Shady/Aftermath, and 15 mixtapes strong should shut your mouth, but you're a hater and you'll keep hating until the day you die. For more Papoose quotables you can hit me up on AIM at PurpleHaze420365, or just wait for me to join this wonderful board you guys have. Thanks for all of your time, sincerely, J.

[MervKlitschko]

I didn't mind papoose until I heard the song "chess"...that shit has weak commercial airplay all over it. Whatever skills Paps has is gonna be abandoned for waterdown gangsta verse

[Deranged]

MervKlitschko, I'm about to take you to school. You can place that shiney red apple on my desk, thank you. :p

What Chess was is something that the other guy said that Papoose doesn't have which is versatility. ::Writes versatility on the chalk board::

: Now if you could flip to the V section of your dictionary please.

ver·sa·tile ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vûrs-tl, -tl)
adj.
Capable of doing many things competently.
Having varied uses or serving many functions: “The most versatile of vegetables is the tomato” (Craig Claiborne).
Variable or inconstant; changeable: a versatile temperament.
Biology. Capable of moving freely in all directions, as the antenna of an insect, the toe of an owl, or the loosely attached anther of a flower.

I guess you can say Pap is similar to a chamillion because there is not a style that he can't adapt to. He doesn't just give you the one side of things, he gives you both. I would recommend listening to all three parts of Law Library before you come to me with that mess.

Sure, 1.5 wasn't his best offering but there were some good songs such as On Site Beef, The Influentials etc. I think you guys just don't understand what he's trying to do here...

[MervKlitschko]

versa what???

[QuietStorm]

Papoose is still a nobody.

[MervKlitschko]

Read one of my two posts... then download some good ol' real shit from Boot Camp.

hey man, it's too bad you ain't in San Fran this weekend. Tomorrow night, about 10 blocks away from me, buckshot, Smif n Wessun, Sean Price and Heltah Skeltah are gonna hold it down for 15 bucks.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

Afraid I don't. It's probably on OiNK or the usual torrent sites. I could YSI if you're having trouble finding it.

I'm sure I'll find it and abuse it eventually, no worries bruv.

[Myron Hardy]

Buck, I was drunk when I wrote all that crap. I must explain, I don't like it too much when they use voice samples in a song.

[TRO]

Blasphemy!!

Care to explain man?

QuietStorm said that a while ago, and then I said "Canibus is a nobody." Good times, good times.


My good sir JDawg, I have indubitably never encountered the artistic endeavours of the above mentioned said gentleman Papoose, so therefore it is most certainly evident that he must surely be wack. Waaaack wack wack wack wack. Afflack.

[spanish announce table]

Whats the verdict on Resident Patient? The link a few pages back is dead.

[.invurzion.]

Use the link in my post a few posts up ... it works just fine.

Here it is again just in case: http://rapidshare.de/files/27265184/Inspectah_Deck-The_Resident_Patient-2006-by_killa_kid.rar.html

[Deranged]

QuietStorm said that a while ago, and then I said "Canibus is a nobody." Good times, good times.


My good sir JDawg, I have indubitably never encountered the artistic endeavours of the above mentioned said gentleman Papoose, so therefore it is most certainly evident that he must surely be wack. Waaaack wack wack wack wack. Afflack.
So all beause you haven't heard him he's whack? Excellent logic my friend.

[Stringer Bell]

"I'm like an air conditioner, I'll make you lose your fans."... that's kind of corny, and exactly the kind of line that turns me off to him. He's got much better quotables, but you're not doing a very good job of pulling them out.


It is most certainly evident that you have no knowledge on the topic of which you speak.

That's the funniest part of your post... I'm not even going to get into that, your defense of Papoose was poor. Boot Camp is shitty? If you knew anything about hip-hop, you'd know they had New York going crazy over a decade before Papoose was mentioned by anybody. But hey, what do I know?

Yeah, I said not versatile. Like I said, he has his moments, but usually he's coming out with the whole "I'm better than you, check out my cool similies" bullshit that every other New York/east coast rapper loves. Reminds me a lot of Lloyd Banks, someone who couldn't deliver when the time came to make an album.

I actually thought "Chess" was one of his better songs Merv. And yeah, Boot Camp was supposed to come my way on August 15th, now the date is just gone from their website and from the venu's list. Shitty.

He is constantly played in the city? Last time I checked, Dipset was still getting played in New York a lot too, and they sure aren't what they're cracked up to be.

Anyway, "JDawg", if you wanna come here and talk hip-hop, don't try to sound sophisticated when you're backing up a bullshit argument. May I ask what other overrated rappers you listen to?

Check this (http://forums.rajah.com/showthread.php?t=119233) thread and get back to me. Papoose can't hold a candle to any of those artists, and there's plenty more where those came from.

[TRO]

So all beause you haven't heard him he's whack? Excellent logic my friend.

I must be of a disagreeing mind on this particular scenario, it is most certainly obvious that my excellent logic cannot be unsubstantiated by Papoose's 52 mixtapes that nobody's heard, nor by the weak verse he did on that Tiddly Z track.

[Stringer Bell]

Now I'm getting a little bored with the Masta Killa, but "ENY House", "It's What It Is", "Iron God Chamber", and "Strert Corner" are all great songs. "Nehanda and Cream" and "Then and Now" have great beats, but could've been made into better songs.

The Inspectah Deck is cool, he's always been a nice lyricist, but I don't think he'll ever top his Forever verses.

[spanish announce table]

Resident Patient is solid for the most part, but there are 2-3 tracks that should have been left off. 'Sound of the Slums' is what 'Made in Brooklyn' should have sounded like.

[l0adt0ad]

anyone listen to stuff by DJ silva surfa?

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah man, "Sound of the Slums" is a hell of a track, great opener. It's a shame the rest of the tape isn't quite that good.

I'm thinking (or hoping) that maybe the Masta Killa was a rough advance and the final product will be a little different..

Did you download any of those old Boot Camp albums I posted, SAT? If not, look back a few pages. All classics :yes:

[JDawg]

"I'm like an air conditioner, I'll make you lose your fans."... that's kind of corny, and exactly the kind of line that turns me off to him. He's got much better quotables, but you're not doing a very good job of pulling them out.



That's the funniest part of your post... I'm not even going to get into that, your defense of Papoose was poor. Boot Camp is shitty? If you knew anything about hip-hop, you'd know they had New York going crazy over a decade before Papoose was mentioned by anybody. But hey, what do I know?

Yeah, I said not versatile. Like I said, he has his moments, but usually he's coming out with the whole "I'm better than you, check out my cool similies" bullshit that every other New York/east coast rapper loves. Reminds me a lot of Lloyd Banks, someone who couldn't deliver when the time came to make an album.

I actually thought "Chess" was one of his better songs Merv. And yeah, Boot Camp was supposed to come my way on August 15th, now the date is just gone from their website and from the venu's list. Shitty.

He is constantly played in the city? Last time I checked, Dipset was still getting played in New York a lot too, and they sure aren't what they're cracked up to be.

Anyway, "JDawg", if you wanna come here and talk hip-hop, don't try to sound sophisticated when you're backing up a bullshit argument. May I ask what other overrated rappers you listen to?

Check this (http://forums.rajah.com/showthread.php?t=119233) thread and get back to me. Papoose can't hold a candle to any of those artists, and there's plenty more where those came from.

Sure, he does have MUCH better quotables, but why bother showing them to a board full of blind mainstream heads? Fuck that, Mainstream shit is trash and finally Papoose is getting some exposure to take rap back to where it needs to be.

Now personally, I don't think that BCC is shitty at all, but me saying it served it's purpose. You noticed what I had to say by me taking a shot at a group you obviously are a huge fan of. Again for clarification, BCC is the shit.

Why shouldn't Pap be proud of possessing a knowledge that most lack? Not many can break it down on Pap's level, and honestly the kid is running NYC right now, he has more tracks than most of your favorite rappers. 285 I believe. All straight piff.

You're comparing Banks to Pap, come on now homie. That's just dumb as shit, Pap is way above where Banks can ever reach. 15 straight fire mixtapes speaks volumes, but there will always be haters. Pap will deliver, you can say he took the 50 Cent method kind of. Took all of the songs that were too hot for a mixtape and is putting it on an album.

Just the production on his album should shut you doubters up, 4 beats from Dre, a beat from Alchemist, one from Timbaland, another from DJ Premier. . . and that says nothing to you? Dre just don't do work for anybody, especially with somebody that he doesn't have affiliation with as far as public relations is concerned.

Dipset is consistently played here as well and I understand your point. But since when has a mixtape artist gotten such buzz? Since when has an unsigned up and coming artist jumped on the hottest remix of the year (Billboard wise) without even being signed?

And if I memory serves me correctly, you said that you preferred Saigon's work to Pap's but I find that hilarious. For this reason: Every Saigon mixtapes (Except his first offering) has featured AT LEAST 50% old work. That tells me he's hungry. . . You also said that Pap will never ever ever be on L's level, this I agree with. L was possibly the best to ever live, case closed.

And to whatever ignoramist who babbles that Pap is a nobody, just look at the rappers he has worked with. . . Mike Jones (Yeah I hate him too), Paul Wall, Nas, Common, Talib Kweli, Jadakiss, Styles P, the list goes on and on. And it's not because of Slay's massive connections in the industry, Talib Kweli WANTED to have Pap on his album, Common WANTED to do a track with Pap, because now everybody sees his vision.

When he is running the rap game in '07, lets see who's opinions change on this matter, and lets see how many of those rappers you still say he couldn't "hold a candle to."

[TRO]

Shut up. If he's not on the radio 24/7, he's wack. 50 Cent is the dopest raw MC on the planet. Papoose isn't mainstream because nobody wants to hear his lame mixtapes. If you don't like watered-down clearchannel rap, you can go back to Russia.

[JDawg]

Shut up. If he's not on the radio 24/7, he's wack. 50 Cent is the dopest raw MC on the planet. Papoose isn't mainstream because nobody wants to hear his lame mixtapes. If you don't like watered-down clearchannel rap, you can go back to Russia.

50 Cent is the most talented rapper out there? Lmfao, you're a joke my friend. Do you know why Busta Rhymes decided to work out a joint venture with Kay Slay and Pap?

Because his man at the mixtape store told him Pap's mixtapes were the top selling mixtapes the past eight months in a row. People don't want to hear his music?. . .

Do you live in the burbs? 50 is the dopest MC on the planet, ahahahahhahahaha that's laughable. The Massacre was a mess, GROTD was classic though. Pap can be considered mainstream seeing as he was on the Touch It Remix, Crowded with Jeannie Ortega, got another video coming out with Shaq and Bun B. . . come on now.

Pap has got the hood on his back and it's either you can't stand to see somebody who has true and unadulterated talent succeed, or you're just blinded to the fact that if it wasn't for the underground there would be no rappers. . .

Or just one of the type who think that unless your on the radio, you're ass which is a fucked up way to think of things because since when has exposure meant a fucking thing?

So let's flip the script here and say that Eminem was trash when he was underground because you haven't heard his shit. GTFO here wit that mess.

[Hack]

He is just joking, you filthy pile of yeast.

[JDawg]

He is just joking, you filthy pile of yeast.
He wasn't joking a few pages ago when he said it before. Unless that was somebody else, then I apologize.

EDIT: Nope, just checked. It was him.

[Morrison]

He wasn't joking a few pages ago when he said it before. Unless that was somebody else, then I apologize.

EDIT: Nope, just checked. It was him.

He was joking about the whole 50 Cent and mainstream hip hop deal.

Settle the fuck down...

[JDawg]

He was joking about the whole 50 Cent and mainstream hip hop deal.

Settle the fuck down...
I dislike Pap haters, he said he was a nobody. That's an insult IMO.

But hey, I'm sippin on Gin and it takes me 4 minutes to type up my post correctly.

[TRO]

I'm just taking the piss, man. I've never heard a Papoose track. A few months ago, someone else in this thread said "Papoose is a nobody." and got laughed at; I was just making fun of that. But I am 100% serious when I say go back to Russia, pinko.


You know who is a nobody though, MC 900 Ft. Jesus. His records are awesome, but he hasn't released new music in 12 years. He could be driving your mail route or making my sandwich at Subway for all we know. Crazy.

[Stringer Bell]

Sure, he does have MUCH better quotables, but why bother showing them to a board full of blind mainstream heads? Fuck that, Mainstream shit is trash and finally Papoose is getting some exposure to take rap back to where it needs to be.

What exactly are you talking about? Most of the people that post regularly in this thread don't listen to mainstream hip-hop. Have you even read any of it, or you're just making blind assumptions again? And, Papoose isn't exactly the most underground emcee in the game, so I'm not understand your whole anti-mainstream attitude. DJ Kay Slay has been pumping us full of mainstream bullshit for years now...

[Hack]

Buck wins again. If this was Mortal Kombat, it would be about time to say, "FINISH HIM!" and then Buck could turn into a scorpion and rip off the guy's head.

[JDawg]

What exactly are you talking about? Most of the people that post regularly in this thread don't listen to mainstream hip-hop. Have you even read any of it, or you're just making blind assumptions again? And, Papoose isn't exactly the most underground emcee in the game, so I'm not understand your whole anti-mainstream attitude. DJ Kay Slay has been pumping us full of mainstream bullshit for years now...

I'm not gonna read through 541 pages of shit, I don't have the time for that. Obviously TRO listens to mainstream music or he would have heard Pap on the Touch It Remix? And it's not that I hate all of the mainstream rappers, don't get me wrong. I like Young Buck, Ludacris, Eminem, Obie Trice etc.

What I hate the mainstream for is that everything is a carbon copy of what has already been done. At least Pap keeps it original, you gotta give him that.

[Hack]

Dear JDawg,

TRO owns your soul. You have no clue what you are talking about.

Sincerely,

Hack

[JDawg]

Dear JDawg,


TRO owns your soul. You have no clue what you are talking about.


Sincerely,


Hack
You seem to be a troll.

Sincerely,

JDawg

[Matthew]

You have no grasp of the word context.

Sincerely,

everyone

[QuietStorm]

I dislike Pap haters, he said he was a nobody. That's an insult IMO.

But hey, I'm sippin on Gin and it takes me 4 minutes to type up my post correctly.
I hate Papoose.

[Matthew]

Pap has got the hood on his back and it's either you can't stand to see somebody who has true and unadulterated talent succeed, or you're just blinded to the fact that if it wasn't for the underground there would be no rappers. . .

Or just one of the type who think that unless your on the radio, you're ass which is a fucked up way to think of things because since when has exposure meant a fucking thing?

So let's flip the script here and say that Eminem was trash when he was underground because you haven't heard his shit. GTFO here wit that mess.Exposure meant something when Fuck Tha Police came out.

What do you think "Underground" is? That is because of lack of exposure, in most cases.

Pap has the hood on his back? Along with the other 2348205 MCs from NY that say the same exact thing. Maybe like an apartment, a few rats, and some ghetto children on his back, but not whole hood. C'mon now.

Maybe you should understand that not everyone likes the same thing. You like eating shit, that doesn't mean I will, shiteater.

[TRO]

I'm not gonna read through 541 pages of shit, I don't have the time for that. Obviously TRO listens to mainstream music or he would have heard Pap on the Touch It Remix? And it's not that I hate all of the mainstream rappers, don't get me wrong. I like Young Buck, Ludacris, Eminem, Obie Trice etc.

What I hate the mainstream for is that everything is a carbon copy of what has already been done. At least Pap keeps it original, you gotta give him that.

Yeah, ok. Obviously I listen to the mainstream because I haven't heard that one obscure track. Obviously. LOGICAL.

In this thread, we're about 100 times as likely to be discussing Sage Francis or DJ Shadow as, say 50 Cent, or for that matter a 50 Cent wannabe straight from the hood. If you're going to sign up to this message board for the sole purpose of talking about rap in here, the least you could do is take a quick glance at the thread, instead of assuming everyone in here :heart:s the mainstream crap.

No one cares about fucking Papoose. We are making fun of you. You are a joke. Comprende, son?

[TRO]

This server is a joke. Comprende, son?

[Matthew]

Pfft spanish? hahahaha what a lameoid. You shouldn't disrespect Ja Rule like that. GTFO ny 4 lyfe.

Also: Biggie carried NY on his back. Papoose maybe carries groceries at most.

[Hack]

Sometimes when I fart, it kind of sounds like my ass is saying Papoose. You know, those really wet, nasty ones? Pa-pooooooose.

[Matthew]

Your farts carry NY on their backs.

Now we all know what Busta's "Big Bang" was about.

[JDawg]

Yeah, ok. Obviously I listen to the mainstream because I haven't heard that one obscure track. Obviously. LOGICAL.

In this thread, we're about 100 times as likely to be discussing Sage Francis or DJ Shadow as, say 50 Cent, or for that matter a 50 Cent wannabe straight from the hood. If you're going to sign up to this message board for the sole purpose of talking about rap in here, the least you could do is take a quick glance at the thread, instead of assuming everyone in here :heart:s the mainstream crap.

No one cares about fucking Papoose. We are making fun of you. You are a joke. Comprende, son?
Obscure? What was obscure about it?

And I'm glad you know you're shit, TWO THUMBS UP and an Animaniacs DVD, enjoy.

[Matthew]

Where does he even say he is shit?

You gave an album 8/10 then called it a "Masterpiece" (Master P Eats)

You are a dolt.

[Hack]

You know, the fact that he hasn't heard a Busta Rhymes remix should actually tell you that he doesn't listen to mainstream rap. If the video gets played 44 fucking times a day on multiple video channels, I think I'd classify it as mainstream. Stop ruining the thread, thanks.

[TRO]

Im like a air conditioner, I circulate your farts /
NY NY. NY is where it's at


yo yo yo represent, thas some HOT new shit from everyone's favorite lyricist, Caboose

[TRO]

I would like an Animaniacs DVD, btw.

[Matthew]

Have I ever introduced you to Mynoose?

He's always hangin around

[Hack]

Back to some actual hip-hop discussion ...

"Miuzi Weighs a Ton" is the best song on PE's Yo! Bum Rush the Show.

OK, so that was really weak, but I'm trying here. Somebody else say something important, I keep wanting to make more jokes about Papoose.

[Matthew]

I like Jigga's verses on 'Deja Vu'

That is pretty much it.

Also I'd like to say how Tony Yayo was more famous while he was in jail rather than out

[Stringer Bell]

What I hate the mainstream for is that everything is a carbon copy of what has already been done. At least Pap keeps it original, you gotta give him that.

Yet you're a Young Buck fan? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense...

And no, Papoose doesn't really keep it original, at all. There's very little that sets him apart from every other young mixtape MC, except maybe some better-than-average wordplay skills. Nothing to do with originality... his subject matter could easily be confused with just about every other rapper in New York.

On to bigger and better things...

Pete Rock and CL Smooth's The Main Ingredient has been getting crazy rotation from me. My computer's having problems, so I've been relying on the good ol' CD's... picked up The Main Ingredient, Common's LWFC, and Guru's Jazzmatazz used for $20. Not bad.

I was pretty disappointed with "Deja Vu", and I love Jay. I dunno, maybe I was expecting too much after "Crazy In Love" (He KILLS it...), but I just wasn't feeling it at all. Same for his verse on the Pharrell CD, very mediocre..

[Matthew]

I haven't heard that Pharrell album yet, don't think I will either, sans that Jay Z collabo.

I still think he can put out an album and probably have it in top ten hip hop albums of that year. Steady average Jay would still elite when it comes to mainstream hip hop.

I still expect a new album one day or another though...

[.invurzion.]

Wait a minute ... I leave for a couple of days and this guy is still in here talking about fucking Papoose. Jesus Christ. You don't listen to "mainstream" rap because it is a carbon copy of things that have already been done? Yet you are a Buck and EMINEM fan. Now, don't get me wrong, because I'm the last person to bash someone who likes mainstream because I'm the worst. I'm STILL bumping my Yung Joc album at the moment. ("Do Ya Bad" is officially my theme song at the moment. :D) But come on dude - there are three things to notice about your post and those two artists...

Mainstream: :yes:

Commercial: :yes:

Hypocritical: :yes:

Now enough of this bullshit ... get to some real discussion please.

That Pharrell CD is nothing but ashtray material. A lot of it are the singles that he's had out over the past 4-6 months just placed on a CD with some other crossover R&B/Rap collaborations. I mean, the production is decent, but nothing praiseworthy content wise.

Oh ... and since I'm a confessed southern rap addict at the moment, if anyone wants that crack that is Rick Ross' Port of Miami album ... get at me.

[Matthew]

The first N.E.R.D. cd was my favorite piece of Pharrell's work. Then I'd say his work with Clipse has produced so awesome beats.

Fly or Die was nothing like ...In Search Of. And it seems the more time goes on, the more Pharrell just wants to be this R&B Artist

[Fro]

My two songs of the week:

Jurassic 5 - Back 4 U
Jurassic 5 - Radio

Overall the album is solid, though not quite on the level of their last two (although that could change with time). But I can't stop listening to the first two tracks. Classic J5. "Get It Together" is my other fave. So glad J5 is back with a new album.

[QuietStorm]

Canibus Canibus Canibus Canibus Canibus Canibus Canibus Canibus Canibus Canibus Canibus Canibus Canibus Canibus Canibus Canibus Canibus Canibus


This guy with Papoose is like how I was a few years ago.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

He's not that bad.

I enjoyed Whut? Thee Album, How to Roll a Blunt is my shit.

I also loved that Bootcamp Click shit, the song with a sample of something like 'he gave his life today' (haven't listened to it in a few days) was my favourite.

[Suno]

ahhhhhhhhh, reggie noble is my fucking hero mang!

[TRO]

I like the J5 song with Dave Matthews. Apparently it's the first single, but since I haven't listened to the radio in ages, I can't confirm that. But it is good; sometimes DMB make some good music hidden within hours of crap.

[Avernus]

Obie Trice - Second Rounds on Me

From the first few listen throughs, I'd give it a 8/10.

Maybe I'll do a little write up in a little bit.

where did you find this?....I am unable to find it...

[Avernus]

Jaz-O - 'be there' is a gem....

discuss...

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah, the J5 album is pretty nice. "Get It Together" is definitely the standout. Pitchfork should NOT be reviwing rap albums, they gave this a 4 something, Busta Rhymes The Big Bang a 4 something, and then Lil Wayne's Dedication 2 an 8 something. :wtf: :wtf:

Obie's pretty much all over the net... try a Torrent site or something.

As for the Jaz-O song, can't say I've ever heard it..

[Avernus]

Yeah, the J5 album is pretty nice. "Get It Together" is definitely the standout. Pitchfork should NOT be reviwing rap albums, they gave this a 4 something, Busta Rhymes The Big Bang a 4 something, and then Lil Wayne's Dedication 2 an 8 something. :wtf: :wtf:

Obie's pretty much all over the net... try a Torrent site or something.

As for the Jaz-O song, can't say I've ever heard it..

I will try limewire...

I tried a couple weeks ago and nothing came up...I am not torrent savvy lol...

but umm...jaz-o is a legend...definately give him a listen....you probably know who he is....but this song is type nice..

[JDawg]

Yeah, the J5 album is pretty nice. "Get It Together" is definitely the standout. Pitchfork should NOT be reviwing rap albums, they gave this a 4 something, Busta Rhymes The Big Bang a 4 something, and then Lil Wayne's Dedication 2 an 8 something. :wtf: :wtf:

Obie's pretty much all over the net... try a Torrent site or something.

As for the Jaz-O song, can't say I've ever heard it..
Every time I try to look for Obie on there I get that faggot advanced shit.

I'll look again though.

[N.E.R.F.]

New DMX album is pretty cool.

[Avernus]

oh...btw...lil wayne should be the next rapper shot...

but unlike big l, biggie or pac...people should like his music alot less and realize how horrible he actually was after his death...

just my .02

[TRO]

Here's that DJ Wicked mixtape I was going on about, Fuck the Radio:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/6yykz0

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah I just saw that DJ Wicked tape on another forum, you post that? ;)

I can't say I enjoyed the new DMX. I downloaded it to see if he had switched things up any, but it seemed like the same old shit. Seems like the single was the highlight of the CD, and it's not even that good... I should probably listen again though.

As for Jaz-O being called a legend... can't say I've heard that too many times :p

Anyone care to hook me up with that Masta Killa album? Oh No and PackFM's albums would be appreciated too. I had to get a new PC and lost all of my newer music, so I'm missing some good stuff. TRO, Fro, invursion, Hack, sat, anyone who might have those, it'd be much appreciated.

Fuck, looks like I need The Roots Game Theory too.

[spanish announce table]

New DMX album is pretty cool.

I was a huge DMX fan for the first 3 albums, but his last 2 were not up to par. I'm eager to hear this new album. His TV show is full of unintentional humor.

I'm digging Resident Patient way more than Made In Brooklyn right now. The beat Psycho Les gave Deck is shitty, but as a whole, it is far more consistent than MIB.

Nobody's mentioned that Non Phixion broke up. Apparently Necro fucked over Goretex's first album and is holding his money.

[.invurzion.]

For Buck...

The Roots - Game Theory: http://rapidshare.de/files/25793326/The_Roots_-_Game_Theory.rar.html

Masta Killa - Made In Brooklyn http://www.sendspace.com/file/9jpve7

If I can get the PackFM or Oh No I'll pm it to you.

.....

For everyone hunting it down:

Obie Trice - Second Round's on Me (Retail): http://rapidshare.de/files/26780914/Obie_Trice_-_Second_Round_s_On_Me____TBOHipHop.net.rar

And as you can see by the majority of the links, all of these are courtesy of one website. Very nice stuff over there.

If anyone else needs anything I'll see if I can find it too. I'm so fucking resourceful.

:yes:

[Fro]

DMX has a tv show?

And I'm currently enjoying both the new MK and Deck albums. The Wu is back!

[.invurzion.]

Oh ... and on DMX - that shit is :no: . You get tired of the same thing repeated over and over again. His first album was great. The second album was alright but started the decline. I actually dug that track that he did with Marilyn Manson on his second album.

On topic though, most recent DMX album = :no:

See for yourself: http://rapidshare.de/files/26491377/DMX_-_Year_Of_The_Dog_Again_RETAIL.rar.html


DMX has a tv show?

Unfortunately ... yes. You have to see it to behold the horror that is DMX. Keyshia Cole's is worse. The fact I've sat there and watched them both before pisses me off. I want my hour back.

[Stringer Bell]

Fuck, thanks a lot dude. That was quick.

Yeah, the DMX is definitely ass. I never downloaded the original Year of the Dog bootleg from last year, but if this is supposed to be some sort of improvement, I don't even want to imagine what it's like...

PackFM would be dope!

Edit: I must spread some rep around before giving it to you again. Coming your way though..

The Roots is gone :(

[.invurzion.]

Didn't know that the link was dead for The Roots. I'm reuploading it now. Give it about 30 minutes.

*edit* Done! Here is the link: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=62C8715E28B0186E Did yousendit this time. I have that PackFM downloading. It's a 2 CD set and about 139MB ... I'll try and up it tonight, but if not you'll have it tomorrow.

:yes:

[Stringer Bell]

Thanks for that Roots!

My buddy is actually sending me PackFM right now, but thanks for the effort. You'll probably enjoy the CD either way, it's a good one. You might be downloading The Features, I think that's a 2CD..

[TRO]

Yeah I just saw that DJ Wicked tape on another forum, you post that? ;)

What, you mean that forum that you gave me a link to? Just download that Wicked shit, it is worth listening to.

[.invurzion.]

Thanks for that Roots!

My buddy is actually sending me PackFM right now, but thanks for the effort. You'll probably enjoy the CD either way, it's a good one. You might be downloading The Features, I think that's a 2CD..

The CD that I got was whutdoestheFMstandfor? Or something like that. It's like a special edition or something ... don't know - I just remember the name because you posted about it before.

Let me know if you need anything else.

[Stringer Bell]

Shit, what's up with the second disc? I might be interested in that if it's no trouble.

Yeah TRO, I just figured you had posted it there too..

[.invurzion.]

Finally checked out the Download, the second disc is straight instrumentals of all the tracks. I can up it if you want...

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah bro, if you don't mind. That album's got some bangers.

[.invurzion.]

Here ya go

PackFM - "WhutdoesFMstand4?" (2CD Retail): http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=0704CA5E48BE785E

[.invurzion.]

http://www.betavulgaris.com/gnarls/img/head_up_03.jpg
http://www.betavulgaris.com/gnarls/img/front_01.jpg

Need I really say anymore? Here is the link to the site where you can D/L the individual songs.

www.gnotorious.com *edit* Album zipped: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=10EBF8FB05BA88BB *edit*

Nothing much to the site really. I'll zip this and up it later ... figured someone wouldn't mind.

:yes: Decent listen, but nothing fantastic.


*edit*Figured since I don't want to have three posts in a row ... have at this M.O.P. album.

M.O.P. - Ghetto Warfare http://rapidshare.de/files/28215329/M.O.P-Ghetto_Warfare-2006-by_killa_kid.rar.html
Releases on 080806. :yes:

[Fro]

You're the man.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

I concur with that statement.

[Restiform]

Spun Cannibal Ox's The Cold Vein today for the first time in a while, if anyones familiar with them what are your thoughts? I think its a solid album, nothing spectacular, but still pretty good. Iron Galaxy is probably my favorite track and a great opener. Also hear theyre droppin a new album sometime soon, I'm plannin on checking that out too.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Here ya go

PackFM - "WhutdoesFMstand4?" (2CD Retail): http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=0704CA5E48BE785E

:yes:

Legend.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Just listening to it for first time... quality.

'I Can't Win' :heart:

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah, I really love that Pack FM CD. Just good, fun stuff. So many good tracks.

The Cold Vein is an excellent CD, too.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

I tried to download that link back there by invurizon for the Rebel INS but it didn't work, any ideas?

Trying to get me to pay for it... as if.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Sounds a bit like Wordsworth at times...

[Morrison]

So, Lollapalooza this past weekend put in Chicago; fun, fun time.

Friday afternoon I checked out this tight artist named Ohmega Watts. Kind of in the same vein as modern-day Common or Talib Kweli, but not exactly on their level. Not yet, at least. He had a local duo called 1773 out there with him(white dude and a black dude), who were just as good. I definitely reccomend checking out their shit if you're looking for some new artists. All of them are on MySpace.

Friday night I headed out to the House of Blues for the first day's after party, where Blackalicious and Lyrics Born were doing a gig. Both were playing Lolla, but the scheduling was conflicting with other bands I wanted to see so I decided to see them on their own in order to free up that festival time. Plus, I assume they'll be a hell of a lot better in a smaller venue where they're sharing the bill with 30 other artists.

And I was right, in so many words. Ohmega Watts and 1773 came out and opened up for them, and killed it. Then Lyrics Born hits the stage with a three piece funk band and proceedes to tear shit down. Awesome performance, though he kind of rode the whole 'Chicago, make some noise' shit into the ground. After each song he'd go on for minutes about being there to party and how he knew we could get louder, etc. Fucking alright already....

Then Blackalicious came on. Ya had Gift of Gab and Chief Xcel, of course, plus two backing vocalists and this crazy white boy keyboard player. I was a bit disappointed with the set, simply because GOG's flow on some of the songs doesn't meet the albums standards, which is perfectly acceptable, but during the fast paced sections, he just seemed to start mumbling real fast and you couldn't understand him. Still a great show though. Gab did two freestyles, which were tight. Really good show, all in all.

Second day of the festival had Gnarls Barkley, who were amazing(though not really hip hop, so I'll leave it at that); Common(who I skipped to go see the Flaming Lips), and Kanye West as on of the headline acts. Now, this was Kanye's homecoming. 60,000 people at this festival, in his home town... It was a big night for him...

And he went on 20 minutes late because of equipment problems. Then it finally starts, with the string section playing the theme from Diamonds Are Forever. The crowd goes nuts. Kanye walks out to center stage, draped in pruple light, grabs the mic and we kick things off with 'Diamonds From Sierra Leone...'

And his mic is too low and we can't hear him. So he runs to the corner of the stage where they have a stationary mic set up and yells so we can all hear him. He runs from side to side doing this for the duration of the song. He finally hits center stage again, looks off to the production team on the side and yells 'turn my fucking sound up! We're in my town and you're messing with my sound!?' The crowd erupted. He kept trucking, though. A few times he left the stage, which left the DJ to just mess around or for one of his back-up singers to dance around.

Finally we get into a flow, and we get 'Get 'Em High' with Common, which rocked. We get 'Spaceship' and 'Drive Slow' with GLC. We get Lupe Fiasco riding out on a skateboard and performing 'Kick Push.' We get 'Slow Jamz' and 'Over Night Celeb' and 'Impossible' with Twista. And in the middle of all of this, we get Diva Kanye, as he publically displays his dissatisfaction with the production problems, telling his General Manager, who was at stage left, that 'there are gonna be some changes made, oh yeah.'

Overall, it was a great, great weekend, with some great, great hip hop sets.

[TRO]

Ohmega Watts is dope. Another great artist from Portland. NW is unstoppable.

[scurvy pirate]

Ohmega Watts is great, both as an MC and a Producer. The group he's in (Lightheaded, with Braille and Othello) is worth checking out as well, although neither of the other guys are as good as Ohmega.

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah, I've heard good things about that Ohmega Watts The Find album.

You missed Tonedeff? :(

[QuietStorm]

Braille is sick with it.

[Stringer Bell]

What are you guys thinking of the new Shadow album? The hyphy tracks are definitely an acquired taste, and I was disappointed with the Q-Tip/Lateef track, but I don't think it's nearly as bad as some people are saying. "Backstage Girl" with Phonte is doooope, and the instrumentals like "This Time" are really good as well... "Triplicate" is vintage Shadow. I'd say about half of it is great music and the other half of it is well done, but strictly for the "hyphy" crowd.

[Hack]

Within an eight-day span, I'm seeing Kool Keith and DJ Shadow.

I'M THE KING OF THE WORLD, BITCHES.

[.invurzion.]

I figure someone here would want this...

http://us-f2-edit.store.yahoo.com/I/2for10_1909_75365050.gif

DJ Dub & DJ Victorious - Heavy Metal Volume 2 feat. Ghostface & MF Doom

Here is the tracklist:

1 - Intro
2 - Angels - Ghostface Killah & MF Doom
3 - What A Niggy Know (remix) - Kmd
4 - Rhinestone Cowboy - Madvillain (MF Doom & Madlib)
5 - Accordian (Live) - Madvillain
6 - Meat Grinder (Live) - Madvillain
7 - Power Interlude
8 - You Owe Me - Nas (MF Doom blend)
9 - I Hear Voices - MF Doom
10 - Science & Sorcery Interlude
11 - Ante Up Nillas - M.O.P./Wu-Tang Clan (MF Doom blend)
12 - Ferric Interlude
13 - Criminology - Ghostface Killah/Raekwon (MF Doom blend)
14 - Sonic Interlude
15 - Sofa King remix - Dangerdoom (MF Doom & Dangermouse)
16 - One Love - Nas (MF Doom blend)
17 - Foolish Interlude
18 - Space Hos - Dangerdoom (remix By Madlib)
19 - Thats Me - Cam'ron (MF Doom blend)
20 - Mr. Clean - Viktor Vaughn
21 - Two Hands Interlude
22 - Money Folder remix - Madvillain
23 - Doom-Tro
24 - Stan Lee Intro/ Wu Banga 101
25 - Doom-Tro
26 - Stan Lee/Happy & Pepper Interlude
27 - Verbal Intercourse - Ghostface Killah with Nas & Raekwon
28 - Tony'S Money - Ghostface Killah
29 - Good Times - Ghostface Killah with Superb
30 - Momma - Ghostface Killah with Megan Rochelle
31 - Do The Dance - Ghostface Killah with Masta Killah & Raekwon
32 - World'S Best Bodyguard (Interlude)
33 - Project Soap Operas - Ghostface Killah with Trife, Kryme Life & Tommy Whispers
34 - Love Stories - Ghostface Killah with Wigs (Othorized Fam)
35 - I Cant Sleep - Ghostface Killah with Issac Hayes & Rza (Live)
36 - Rainy Days remix - Ghostface Killah with Raekwon
37 - Outro

:yes: Enjoy!

[Morrison]

You missed Tonedeff? :(

Me?

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah..

Sucks that Ghost/Doom album got pushed to '07.

[Morrison]

Where was Tonedeff?

Edit: Shit, he was part of the Last Band Standing stuff and had a solo show that night. Didn't get there until the day after that.

[BoSox Rule]

What Wu-Tang Song was played after they were picked in the racial draft?

[spanish announce table]

New Meth, Rae & RZA is up on www.xxlmag.com. Sounds like something straight from the Tical album.

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah, that Meth is a banger. Can't wait for a CD quality version, album's looking good at this point.

DJ Premier absolutely LACED Christina Aguilera on her new album. I'd love to hear some good rappers over "Back In The Day", "Still Dirrty", and other tracks on there.

Yet again, the NBA 2K soundtrack is filled with dope underground rap. This year's is even sounding better than last year's. Production by Dan The Automator, tracks from Rhymefest, Hieroglyphics, Aceylone, Ghostface, AG, Lupe Fiasco, Dilated Peoples, Mos Def, Charli 2na, ATCQ, and Zion I. That lineup alone is crazy, then there's cuts from Slim Thug, E-40, and Fabolous to appeal to the more mainstream crowd.

[skulldice]

Is there a better Raekwon song than "Heaven & Hell"? Let me know because I'm on the verge of over-playing this song.

[Fro]

Yea, that's a great track. Rae and Ghost goin back and forth like only they can. There's so many classics on that album though.... it's hard to pick the best.

[Ricky]

www.myspace.com/PainesVillens

These are friends of mine and just wanted to hear an opinion. Been going for about half a year.

[Flow (Ice Cold) 3000]

So I've got a friend from Conneticut told me about the time he got lost in the neighbourhood where Biggie grew up... I decided to listen to Life After Death again, forgot how much I loved this shit.

Somebody Got to Die, Let the gun shots blow!

That's about all I have to contribute.

[skulldice]

Hell yea, that's always a great album to go back to after a few years of non-listening.

I'm still hooked on this Raekwon shit though. I like him more than Ghostface to be honest...

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah, but you haven't heard Immobilarity and The Lex Diamond Story... those will change your mind pretty quickly, I'd think.

If you've only heard "Heaven and Hell", you definitely need to get your hands on the full album, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx. It's one of the best rap CD's ever...

Anyone else heard the rumor (it's pretty much confirmed at this point) that Jeezy's going to have a guest spot on Cuban Linx 2? I understand they want to boost sales, especially now that it's under the Aftermath umbrella, and there's the whole cocaine connection between Jeez and Rae -- but what the fuck? One of New York's most lyrical MC's with one of the most overrated gimmick rappers from the south? Ugh..

[.invurzion.]

You can't expect Rae (being the intelligent dude that he is) to really pass up on a collabo with one of the most popular, although gimmicky, rappers in the industry right now, do you.

I mean, although some don't like it, that down south shit is really selling and popular as hell. Just putting Jeezy's name on certain things draws interest. I know from personal experience down here that most people could care less about Raekwon. Honestly. I know there are a lot of people who don't even know how he is period. And that is the majority of commercial consumers too. But Jeezy is a well-known artist at the moment. WELL known honestly.

Raekwon is just capilalizing on what is popular right now to get that guac, and you know that it's just going to be a commercial single anyway. The rest of the album is going to be fucking bananas ...

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah, I know they want to boost sales, but this is Cuban Linx 2, the follow-up to one of the greatest rap albums ever. Why feature an artist who will fade away into obscurity ten years from now?

Of course the mainstream is going to be more familair with Jeezy than Raekwon, when was the last time Raekwon had a video on MTV or BET? That said, Cuban Linx isn't a mainstream album, so it shouldn't be catering to the mainstream. Anyone who doesn't know who the Wu-Tang Clan is isn't a very big fan of rap, and shouldn't be the target audience for this album whatsoever.

I don't mind Raekwon getting his due, but this isn't the way to go about it. Look at his last attempts at commercial success, they were far from what people wanted to hear, and there's a reason you never hear his last two albums talked about. They absolutely butchered the classic "Ice Cream" on his last album, a song so bad they didn't even make it a single. I know the Jeezy track is one song out of many, but it's not a good bit of news for an album that again, is the sequel to one of the best albums ever.

The whole thing with Wu-Tang is that their fans don't expect them to capitalize on what's popular and feed into the trends. Wu came through the gate with creativity like no other, and the lack of creativity is what made a lot of the later releases disappointing. That's always been their downfall, and I'm hoping Cuban Linx 2 doesn't fall victim to this agenda..

[Fro]

Well said, Buck. I for one am not too excited about this album. Rae's recent verses haven't really impressed me - seems like his lyrical skills and passion on the mic have both significantly declined in recent years. Add that to the fact that it's on Aftermath (:grumpy:), Busta is the executive producer (I like Busta but The Big Bang was weak), and there's gonna be non-Wu guest spots from Jeezy of all people... to me that says there's no way in hell this is gonna be a classic or even remotely close to the quality of the original. I expect it to be solid, but am not exactly dying to hear it.

[skulldice]

About Cuban Linx, I do have it but the only songs I really play over and over are Heaven & Hell and Criminology. It's an all around good album though. This new album from Raekwon sounds interesting, I hope there are a lot of Wu-Tang collaborations and not just popular shit. If someone like Paul Wall ends up on that CD, I won't bother buying it.

[spanish announce table]

If Rae wanted to keep the whole cocaine connection thing, why couldnt he work with someone like Scarface? Sure he's not as popular as Jeezy, but I doubt they selected Nas to appear on the first Cuban Linx because of his popularity and not his skill.


Partial review of Method Man - 4:21

Things They Say (prod. Erick Sermon) - I love how they flipped the Lauryn sample, and Meth lets all his aggression towards the media out. 8/10

Presidential MC (prod. RZA) - Dark shit straight from 1994. This is the style of rap that was missing from Tical 0. 8.5/10

Is It Me? (prod. Scott Storch) - I'm not a big fan of Storch, but the piano on this beat is awesome. From the snippet I heard, Meth sounds fully focused. 8/10

Ya'Mean (prod. Chairman of the Boards) - Not feeling the beat too much, and Fat Joe's flow is terrible on this track. Meth and Styles P pick up his slack. 6.5/10

Fall Out (prod. Kwame) - Awful beat. Not sure what Meth was thinking with this one. Sounds like a Prequel left-over. 4/10

So far, this album is a mixed bag. When its good, its great, but beat selection is still a problem. I'm still curious to hear the rest of this, with beats by Mathematics, Havoc, Sermon & RZA, plus guest spots by ODB, Deck, Street Life & Carlton Fisk.

[Avernus]

I just heard Presidential MC on the new Meth album...

the only problem is his delivery...he's still using the same delivery he started using on the Tical 2000 album....

his old delivery was dope....the new one is not meth...

I still liked the track, though...

RZA on it and RZA produced is a plus....

[QuietStorm]

It's only borderline hip hop, but the Alias & Tarsier album is a fantastic listen.

[Stringer Bell]

Meth finally leaked... http://rapidshare.de/files/29567725/M2006.rar.html

Haven't listened yet, but from the tracklist I can only assume it's better than the new Outkast..