Hip Hop Discussion/Album Review Thread.

[Prince XL]

Of course I'm right.

Can it be said that Mobb Deep, The LOX, Kool G Rap etc are not "gangster" and are more laid back that Nate Dogg?

Thought not.

[QuietStorm]

Yeah...M.O.P is veeery laid back:).

[Ronald McDonald]

I dont know I just don't like Eastcoast. I feel some of it, some.
I just like the Westcoast way better.

Life is different on the different coasts, and I could relate to what the West says.

[Seanny One Ball]

Eazy wasn't so hot, he sounded like a little girl and it annoyed me whenever he rapped.

Dre > Eazy

[Suno]

Originally posted by Prince XL
Wrong!

There is a lot of westcoast rap that isn't what you call "Hardcore" gangster rap and a hell of a lot of East coast rap that is. It would be niave to catagorise the different coasts styles of rap the way you just did.

But Ib's man, the dude is niave, ignorant and is also a faggot, there is conclusive evidence in this thread to prove my allegations to be fact! I bid you a good day!

[50 Cent]

Eazy E was okay, his voice was shit, but he did help elevate Gangsta rap to new levels.

2Pac the Goat

[Webbicho]

Originally posted by UMDeepTerp
Dude...Me & My Girlfriend is about his gun. But you knew that right?

You both said that.

You're right, but the song still has sex ryhmes. And gun = kill.

So whats the problem?

[QuietStorm]

It's not that big of a deal. We were just pointing out the song was one big metaphor unlike Jay-z's crappy ripoff.

[spanish announce table]

Jigga came out with Blueprint 2.1, which is condensed to 14 tracks...he left "Poppin Tags" off of it :mad:

[Prince XL]

Poppin Tags is arguably the best song on 'the gift'.


Some fools be working for the Roc

[Webbicho]

Popping tags... he doesn't mean tags like shitty graffiti does he?

FTR Tags are gay, pieces however I cannot say enough good things about.

[Seanny One Ball]

Listened to "me and my girlfriend" a minute ago to confirm something that could show how the song is also about his literal girlfriend.

He says: "I love finger fuckin' you"

Those aren't the words of a man who is talking about his gun, he definately brings his woman into this song. There seems to be too much basic sex talk and blatant referencing to his woman to make the song only about his gun.

Listen to it, it's about guns and women.

[Flow]

Originally posted by spanish announce table
Jigga came out with Blueprint 2.1, which is condensed to 14 tracks...he left "Poppin Tags" off of it :mad:

yeah I saw that in Virgin a few days ago, it's about a quid cheaper than the actual Blueprint 2.

[QuietStorm]

Originally posted by Government Mule
Listened to "me and my girlfriend" a minute ago to confirm something that could show how the song is also about his literal girlfriend.

He says: "I love finger fuckin' you"

Those aren't the words of a man who is talking about his gun, he definately brings his woman into this song. There seems to be too much basic sex talk and blatant referencing to his woman to make the song only about his gun.

Listen to it, it's about guns and women.


It is about pulling the trigger dude. Just believe me.

[hed]

Originally posted by UMDeepTerp
Lil Kim is trash. A little whore. And she is the worst rapper ever.

There, that is what you get for calling Canibus a faggot:).
1. Lil Kim is a shite rapper. Sure, she's a whore. But I think I'd still like to fuck that little black bitch :yesyes:

2. Cannibis is a fag, he's a no talent piece of shit and him and Chino XL, can go fuck their selves.

[QuietStorm]

This from the person who said Chino XL is for the ladies.

[Webbicho]

Originally posted by Government Mule
Listened to "me and my girlfriend" a minute ago to confirm something that could show how the song is also about his literal girlfriend.

He says: "I love finger fuckin' you"

Those aren't the words of a man who is talking about his gun, he definately brings his woman into this song. There seems to be too much basic sex talk and blatant referencing to his woman to make the song only about his gun.

Listen to it, it's about guns and women.

Thank you.

[Full_Blooded_Italian]

anyone get Leathaface's new album that came out on April 15th?

The Legends Undergroud Part 1

[Prince XL]

Originally posted by Government Mule
Listened to "me and my girlfriend" a minute ago to confirm something that could show how the song is also about his literal girlfriend.

He says: "I love finger fuckin' you"

Those aren't the words of a man who is talking about his gun, he definately brings his woman into this song. There seems to be too much basic sex talk and blatant referencing to his woman to make the song only about his gun.

Listen to it, it's about guns and women.

He says "I love finger-fucking you, all of a sudden I'm hearing thunder when you bust a nut...."

To me, that is clearly a reference to pulling the trigger and hearing gun-shots. The sexual imagery is used merely to emphasise the point that he loves his gun so much.

[Seanny One Ball]

Originally posted by hed
1. Lil Kim is a shite rapper. Sure, she's a whore. But I think I'd still like to fuck that little black bitch :yesyes:

2. Cannibis is a fag, he's a no talent piece of shit and him and Chino XL, can go fuck their selves.

I can't fault either point.

I wish I hadn't bought L'il Kim's albums, they aint really that good at all. Some songs like "The Jump Off" are quality though.

[NightShade]

Originally posted by hed
1. Lil Kim is a shite rapper. Sure, she's a whore. But I think I'd still like to fuck that little black bitch

:wtf:

[Webbicho]

Originally posted by Prince XL
He says "I love finger-fucking you, all of a sudden I'm hearing thunder when you bust a nut...."

To me, that is clearly a reference to pulling the trigger and hearing gun-shots. The sexual imagery is used merely to emphasise the point that he loves his gun so much.

Hell yeah, but the truth is that dude just picked the wrong line. His 'girlfriend' may be his gun, but there are still a fuck lot of sex ryhmes in there.

It still comes under my catergory ho's and kill. Only because he describes his gun with all those sexual innuendos.(sp?)

[Flow]

The song is about his gun, I wouldn't say it's about sex. He just uses rhymes which would be synonymous with his "girlfriend". Also that bitch talking at the beginning of the song and after the first verse is supposed to be the gun talking.

[QuietStorm]

/\This is true./\

[Webbicho]

Originally posted by Webbicho

It still comes under my catergory ho's and kill.

Only because he describes his gun with all those sexual innuendos.(sp?)

[Flow]

That's not really "hos" then is it?

Hos would be Thug N U Thug N Me, How Do U Want It, Wonda Why They Call U Bitch, etc, etc.

The song isn't about women, so I'd disagree.

I know what you're trying to say though mate, a lot of the rhymes could be re-used in songs about hos...but I stand by my statement that the song is solely about his gun.

[spanish announce table]

its about his gun, but he doesnt specifically state it, just like Clipse's "Gangsta Lean" is about weed, but they act like they're talking about a girl

[hed]

Here's an even better question...

Who the fuck really listens to Chino XL? Unless you're female, lol.

[Prince XL]

Originally posted by hed
Here's an even better question...

Who the fuck really listens to Chino XL? Unless you're female, lol.

I do. No rapper in the industry has better punchlines. FACT!

[Kris P. Lettus]

Originally posted by Prince XL
I do. No rapper in the industry has better punchlines. FACT!

OPINION!!

*cough*Big L*cough*

Killer Mike Monster

8.5/10

Very eclectic song styles.. Very much like a Southern Beanie Seigel.. With a Dungen Family twist...

[hed]

Aaah, he's from the UK, hence the poor taste in rappers.

Go listen to some 3-6 Mafia, you bitch ass mothafucka.

[Prince XL]

Big L? Hmmm. Maybe. But nobody apart from him!!!

FACT!!! :p

[Prince XL]

Whats wrong with 3-6?

Poor taste in rappers? :rofl:

[hed]

Nothing, I'm telling you to listen to them...that is if you don't already.

:heart:3-6

[QuietStorm]

3-6 would be nothing without their producer. I can't stand any of them rappers.

And here is the proof. Chino XL is not to be messed with. "My World". Find it. Listen to it. Then tell me Chino is for the ladies.

[Verse 1]
Don't call it a comeback...
I've been here for years
I'm like a record deal from Select ending anyone's career
But does anyone care? And did anyone dare try to prepare ya?
I got the world hemmed up, my daddy should've named me tailor
I'll scare ya' like I knock at the front door when the rents due
The true, lyrical O.G., shine's inevitable
Rhymes irrefutable digital decibels
Louder then Busta Rhymes wardrobe, and I've been foretold
Ain't a tough cat in your zip code, city or rural
Will I become immortal and make you a graffiti R.I.P. mural
Complete with artist rendering on how you used to be proving you're mortal
Surrendering victory to Chi
Underneath flowers and candles from your friends and family
The walls are a reminder you should've never fucked with me
I take it to your f-a-c-e but don't respond
Cus I'm the big dog, the world's the fire hydrant that I piss upon

(Chorus w/ slight variations)

[Verse 2]
360 degrees of unadulterated battle rhyme
You must be inebriated wanting to challenge mine
My distance is so accurate anytime laps cameras capture it
Tearing apart time's fabric, no exaggerate
Thirty five thousand Giga hard drives only could store half of it
That ain't the half of it, I spit the blood of Christ on a catholic
Lyrics specialist ain't this a bitch rip shit so effortless
Smoke method with Method Man being chased by thirty Methodists
Seven day adventist tempt this and try to prevent this
So I curse like DeMotto leaving them praying/preying like the mantis
Perform in front of Mormons 'til they banished up in piss
Start dramas between Amish 'til they turn to Blood and Crips
Go to war with four continents make Saddam turn protestant
Bill Clinton's advisors like look at what your big mouth got us in
Give the world surgery
Resurrect Itzhak Rabin then mandate the extinction of all of Germany
Blanket the universe in darkness for all eternity
I'm like Vernon Jordan on the stand committing purgery
I'll resurrect Hannibal,
To show Italianos how African they are for thinking of us as animals
I'll resurrect Mussolini,
Piss in his hat and show him with all his tyranny
Armies and gases couldn't see me
Resurrect Idi Amin and Hitler
Then sit around exchanging war stories to show whose mind is sicker
And full of hatred, life ain't far cuz if it was
Biggie would still be here and these wack rappers would be dead

(Chorus w/ slight variations)

[Verse 3]
[I have survived] Twenty-four years of being poor
[I have survived] My hometown claiming I wasn't raw
[I have survived] Being shot at and stabbed while on tour
[I have survived] Millions of niggas stealing my metaphors
For three years, broken down that's thirty six months
Twenty six thousand two hundred eighty hours holding a grudge
A non-vocalist drama belonging in the theatre
So raw I'm charging my reflection for rhyming in the mirror
Your flows ancient, I'm past the prehistoric stages
I flip vocal booths equipped with roll bars and cages
Temperature rise you're feeling faint when my heat fell
You wish for death like Lady Di wish she'd wore a seat belt
Seek help, May Day, S.O.S. explode
Dot dot dash... I'll beat that ass in Morse Code
Your rhyme like down syndrome
I make you limp home
For sleeping on my Puerto Rican skin tone
(Leave him alone)
And I don't give a fuck who you get...
I don't give a fuck if Jesus write your verses and Satan and God produced it
I don't give a fuck if Puff signed it
I don't give a fuck what old school rapper you getting outta retirement
I'm on my own dick like a man in solitary confinement
Release enough pollution to destroy the whole environment
Chino strikes again
Lose your hearing from my buzz
Sell CD's? Shit, I sold water to Noah during the flood

[Kris P. Lettus]

Originally posted by Prince XL
Big L? Hmmm. Maybe. But nobody apart from him!!!

FACT!!! :p

"Ask Beavis, I get nothing but head.."

:cool:

I agree that 3-6's producing is the best thing about them.. Anyone heard Lil Whyte?? Little skinny whit dude that can rip better than any other in the Hypnotyzed Camp...

[spanish announce table]

http://www.jackin4beats.com/j4bforum/viewtopic.php?t=5943

best punchlines

[50 Cent]

3-6 Mafia is wack as fuck, they never put out a classic, there wack lyrics and boring production cant hold shit to anyone.

[hed]

Originally posted by Kris P. Lettus
"Ask Beavis, I get nothing but head.."

:cool:

I agree that 3-6's producing is the best thing about them.. Anyone heard Lil Whyte?? Little skinny whit dude that can rip better than any other in the Hypnotyzed Camp...
yeah, Lil Wyte's album is in STORES NOW!!

BUY IT!!

It's called " Doubt Me Now "

[hed]

Originally posted by 50 Cent
3-6 Mafia is wack as fuck, they never put out a classic, there wack lyrics and boring production cant hold shit to anyone.
Just because everyone doesn't listen to the same ole mainstream MTV specials (ie 50 Cent), you shouldn't hate on others, you rifle-head punkass bitch.

[strange famous]

Originally posted by 50 Cent
3-6 Mafia is wack as fuck, they never put out a classic, there wack lyrics and boring production cant hold shit to anyone.

ever hear 'mystic stylez'? its a classic.....seriously. i don't even listen to southern rap but that is a classic album and one of my all time favorites.

'mystic stylez', 'live by yo rep', 'the end' and 'world domination' are all quality albums.....if you know only new triple six then you probably think they suck but their old stuff is great. lord infamous has the nicest flow on those albums.

sin six

sin six: tear the club up

[ruins]

rap sucks.

Having nestled himself quite snugly in the hub of west coast underground hip hop for the greater part of the past decade, 2001 was the year that Radioinactive finally released his long-awaited debut full-length. With a total of thirty tracks, and production handled by the likes of AntiMC, OD, Sunny, Life Rexall, and Radio himself, Pyramidi is a slick blend of Middle Eastern chords, infectious organic drums, and RI's hasty, rhyme-'til-I-run-out-of-breath delivery. The album unflappably tip-toes into uncharted territory, as Radioinactive holds hip hop by the hand and drags it through a truly unique musical landscape.
Quickly setting the interstellar mood that carries on throughout the rest of the album, "Launch Padlock Smithereen", with its ultra-catchy chorus (think 1950's advertisement jingle), urges those that find Earth boring to "come and sign up with Outerspaceways Incorporated." After the sultry horns of "Look Within" and the pulsating rhythm of the album's title track, Radio hits us with a string of exceptional joints, the first of which is the curiously titled "Clam Chowder Day". The innocently stifling vocals of Anisa Qureshi, fused with Sunny's jazz lounge backdrop, make this laid-back ditty one of the album's standout pieces. Just as impressive is "Before The Thought," with its driving bassline thump, crackling percussion, and dwindling guitar loop. Radioinactive shines brightly over the slick production, immersing himself into the beat and proclaiming that "the bar is not closing yet, but after the drinks are poured/ problems shrink like melting ice in dissolving hearts of glass."

No doubt, the Project Blowed veteran has matured lyrically by leaps and bounds since his Log Cabin days. This fact is perhaps best witnessed on two of Pyramidi's most exceptional tracks: "Una Cosa" and "de Iruretagoyena". On the first of the two, Radio shares the stage with fellow Blowedian, Sesquipedalien. With an indelibly Ricky Ricardo-esque beat provided by OD, both emcees impress, but Radioinactive outshines his partner with lines like, "I'm the lively imagination that tortures the mind of the learned scholar/ I'm the handbag in which he keeps the instruments of orchestras and the Amazonian cures for cancer/ in the blind man's world, where the one-eyed man is king." On the aforementioned "de Iruretagoyena," the Santa Cruz native shines light upon the vibrant culture that sprang forth from his father's homeland. Having the ability to paint a portrait of an almost ethereal countryside while being able to relay the very intangibilities of such a place to his listeners is one of the reasons why Radioinactive ranks as one of the more gifted lyricists that the fresh coast has to offer.

The Sunday morning sound of "Our Souls" is subsequently followed by Pyramidi's final shining moment, "The Earl Of Nine Teas Walks With Kaleidescope Through The Streets Of Yesteryear". Along with sporting the longest song title in recent memory, this track bumps hard, courtesy of two westcoast underground trademarks: a booming bass hit and a sparse drumbeat. Radioinactive waxes, "Say hi to neither, provide maneuvers of warful soother/ in a course of cover, amidst a force of brothers and sisters/ whispers and silence, violence, defiance, compliance/ with new standards, use of a thoughtful gander and a plot meander." The album is then concluded with the whispery "Washing Broken Dishes," in which Radio thanks all those that came along with him for his first long-playing excursion.

With all that said, this is a potent album, showcasing the artist's most focused work to date. Much like nearly every other MUSH release, Pyramidi is not your standard rap fare; elaborate lyricism, spaced-out beats, and wicked splatters of creativity help paint as moody a picture as we've seen from the California emcee. However, unlike many of his label mates, Radio is still slightly shaky as far as style goes. Nearly all of his raps are delivered in a somewhat deadpan voice, similar to that of Eligh of Living Legends fame; but unlike Eligh, Radioinactive appears as if he's still yet to master his style, at times sounding as though he just settled on a single delivery for an entire verse (or an entire song), without fluctuations to add touches or emphasize key points. This can easily become tiring, and sometimes is enough to make you want to skip tracks entirely. Also, some of his writing tends to go over the listener's head, either being too abstract or esoteric for the average person to understand. Although this is the case with an awful lot of today's rappers, it is especially irritating when paired with Radioinactive's aforementioned delivery, combining to form a couple of glaring blemishes on an otherwise listenable album.

Still, not too often does a record come along that helps permeate an abyss holding one style of music apart from another; and though Pyramidi may not be one of those rare recordings, it most definitely does its share of genre bending. The cut-and-paste music making occasionally provides a brilliant backdrop for Radio's vocals, and in other instances annoying as all hell. That, along with Pyramidi's other downfalls (namely the rare changes in Radioinactive's monotone delivery and the diminutive length of some of the album's more engaging tracks) hinder its ability to join the absolute elite of other MUSH recordings. Yet and still, Pyramidi is without question one of the most sonically diverse albums to spring up from the soil of today's hip hop scene. With implementations of Middle Eastern, European, Latin, African, and American musical styles, and a soundscape blind to any particular time period, Pyramidi does its best to expand the hip hop genre by not just elaborating upon the given elements, but by fusing those elements with the aesthetics of other musical approaches. In Radioinactive's first attempt at a solo full length, the abstract lyricist strikes not only gold, but a chord within the spirit of creativity. By building upon what has come before him, he has not only reminded us of the brilliance of what past musicians had constructed, but he has also expanded the current musical landscape, however slightly, with his very own unique offering.


(cough)


...rap sucks.

[jesus sucks]

Well I need only two words to say Rock sucks. Rock sucks.

[ruins]

everything sucks.

that was actually a review for a very good hip hop album that came out a couple of years ago. i wrote it...that review sucks.

anybody into smart people rap?

check out http://www.ugsmag.com and http://www.hiphopinfinity.com for more bad reviews that i've poo'd out. i suck.

[Suno]

Aceyalone!

Project Blowed and all that, Freestyle Fellowship! WOOP!

Aceyalones the man!

Rappers, rappers, rappers....

[spanish announce table]

Who else is excited for this new outkast album? the format is andre and big boi solo joints combined into a double album. Sounds hot

damn, damn, damn, James..........

[strange famous]

Originally posted by ruins
everything sucks.

that was actually a review for a very good hip hop album that came out a couple of years ago. i wrote it...that review sucks.

anybody into smart people rap?

check out http://www.ugsmag.com and http://www.hiphopinfinity.com for more bad reviews that i've poo'd out. i suck.

i'm a frequent visitor to hiphopinfinity.com and have read many, many of those reviews, that's where i get most of my cd's from.

and i'm into 'smart people rap'.....i guess. you didn't really clarify what you meant but i don't really like/listen to ignorant stagnant rap.

sin six

sin six: :dead:

[50 Cent]

Originally posted by hed
Just because everyone doesn't listen to the same ole mainstream MTV specials (ie 50 Cent), you shouldn't hate on others, you rifle-head punkass bitch.

Know your role and shut your mouth kid, I listen to a lot more then that MTV and BET bullshit, so why don't you get ya Ja Rule lovin ass on outta here.

[ruins]

oh, um, smart people rap sucks.

nah, i was being fecetious and i figured it'd get a response. that's cool that you visit hiphopinfinity. some of the writers are good there (though, sadly, i am not one of them). i read somewhere that Penny's "The Clockforth Movement" recently sold out from the HHI store...have you picked it up yet? if not, i highly recommend it...my taste sucks, though.

Project Blowed, what's the code?

where are you guys from?



with love,
ruins

[Seanny One Ball]

300th Post!

The Streets rule

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Originally posted by spanish announce table
Who else is excited for this new outkast album? the format is andre and big boi solo joints combined into a double album. Sounds hot

damn, damn, damn, James..........

Yeah?

I've only got the Stankonia album, and I really like it.

S'pose I'll have to wait until it's released before people can comment on whether its worth purchasing or not.

Also, can we try to cut down on the spam/flaming in this thread please gentleman?

I know I don't mod this forum, but still, this is for album reviews, people don't want to woft through page after page of bullshit.

[QuietStorm]

I got Daz Dillinger's DPGC U Know What I'm Throwing Up yesterday. Maybe I'll do a review for it in the next couple days.

[spanish announce table]

R.I.J, get ATLiens. Thats my favorite Outkast album

[QuietStorm]

The new Cunninlynguists album is amazingly good. There are no bad songs on there. I would advise everyone to check it out. Came out on April 1st. "Southernunderground" is the name.

As for the Daz, there are some quality songs on there as well. The production is solid for the most part although I am disappointed that Daz produced nothing. "All Night Long", "Round N Round We Go", "The World So Cold" and the title track are personal favorites. Not as good overall as "This Is the Life I Lead" though.

[Suno]

Speaking of Daz I got The Dogg Pound 2002 along with MystiKal - Unpredictable and some Joe CD, all thre at a total of 18 squids.

The DPG album bangs, Gangsta Rap with Crooked I is immense.

[Hack]

Originally posted by spanish announce table
R.I.J, get ATLiens. Thats my favorite Outkast album

Hell, yes. Stankonia might be the masterstroke, but ATLiens is just as good. Plus, you don't have to put up with 45 random interludes, of which only two or three aren't annoying.

At least download "ATLiens" and "Mainstream."

[hed]

ATLiens was the best imo

[Prince XL]

/me gets all nostalgic from the OutKast talk and throws on Aquemini

[jesus sucks]

Aquemini is the best I reckon. ATLiens I got a bit tired of listening to but its still great. 13th Floor/growing old, Jazzy belle and Mainsteam are the good on that.

[spanish announce table]

Nobody ever talks about "Wailin" and "Babylon". These tracks are too slept on

[spanish announce table]

Damn this thread is dead

[QuietStorm]

July 22nd will liven things up a bit, eh STA? Rip the Jacker!!!

[spanish announce table]

July 22nd? I thought it was early-mid September? Seriously though, this album better live up to the hype.

*Listens to "Laust Laugh"*

[Webbicho]

Originally posted by Flow
That's not really "hos" then is it?

Hos would be Thug N U Thug N Me, How Do U Want It, Wonda Why They Call U Bitch, etc, etc.

The song isn't about women, so I'd disagree.

I know what you're trying to say though mate, a lot of the rhymes could be re-used in songs about hos...but I stand by my statement that the song is solely about his gun.
:yes:

Wonda why they call you bitch I would not put under ho's tho. Its too serious and its talking about female problems not how good it is to fuck a female with a nice ass.

[Brennino]

Common: Resurrection.

If you are a new Common fan, who just loves Electric Circus, throw it aside and go and pick up this album. There are songs for everyone on this album and it is without doubt Common's best work. Produced by, at the time, the relatively unknown No ID, his beats blend brilliantly with the style and flow of Common. On this album Common shows all signs of why he is such a great MC. Tight rhymes, fantastic breath contol and a chilled out, relaxed voice.

east side of Stony.
1. resurrection. Starts of with some heavy scratching and a piano tune in the background. Fast paced song in which Common flows over the beat with ease. Uses various methaphors and nice analogies in this song, among which "my style is too developed to be arrested". Nice way to introduce you to the tone and style of this album, both production-wise and lyrically.

2. i used to love h.e.r. All time classic within the hip-hop genre. If you have never heard this song, where have you been really? The idea/concept and style of this song still amazes me today. The first time hearing this song, you listen to the lyrics and think Common is rapping about the first girl he ever loved, then the last line of the song revels to us that he was rapping about hip-hop all along. If it is possible to form a hip-hop top ten for singles (probably not), this song easily makes the cut.

3. watermelon. When looking at the back of this album, you do see several strangly titled tracks. This is one of these songs. A kid talks over the beginning of this song, pretty fastish beat which Common flows over nicely again. Several funny and witty metaphors and similies used in this song, "I stand out like a nigga on a hockey team" for example. Nice track and nice beat with Common coming strong on lyrics again.

4. book of life. Typical scratched chorus for this song, which No Id makes the norm throughout this album. The beat is more slow but this doesn't stop Common from meshing rhymes in with one another. Several samples also used in the chorus. Decent song, yet again can't fault Common's flow.

5. in my own world (check the method). Mista Sinister does the scratching for this joint. Mainly because No Id actually lays down a verse on this song. The songs starts off with bells making up the tune, but then they suddenly stop and we hear Common rasping over the microphone, with another totally different beat coming through the speakers. Pace of the album picks up again with this song after the slowish pace of book of life. I like this track, like I do most on this album. No Id actually flows pretty well but as usual Common steals the show with his second verse, but this is no shame. Common's lyrics are among the best for this album.

6. another wasted nite with... Pointless interlude really here. Common's homie leaves a message on his answering machine about the previous nights escapades with some woman. Breaks the momentum of the album up, only acts really as an introduction to the next joint on the album.

7. nuthin' to do. Chilled out beat again here, really chilled. Ol' Dirty Bastard sampled in the chorus and the pace of the album has picked up again after the previous filler track. This is the last song on the east side part of the album, and Common glides over the beat provided by No Id once again. Nice track.

west side of Stony.
8. communism. Short track here, doesn't even clock 2 and a half minutes. This was a shame for me personally as I really like this track musically. Beat starts out distant with Common whispering over the microphone. The title is an obvious play on his name. Although Common's flow can't really be faulted here, lyrically I think it doesn't hit the same level as others on the album, but the beat makes up for this.

9. WMOE. Interlude. Nothing much to say. A DJ giving his shout out to Common and introducing the next track.

10. thisisme. Wow. Personally, this is easily in my top five all time Common songs. Basically Common talking about himself, hence the name of the song. Don't know how others feel about this joint, but I love it. KRS-One sample for the chorus and Common provides everything in this song, perfect flow, perfect breath control, perfect blend with the beat and he actually sings by the third verse. This song has an amazing beat and allows Common to just flow crazy on it. Behind i used to love h.e.r. this is the second best joint on the album (others will differ).

11. orange pineapple juice. This was one of those songs when looking at the back I wondered just what in the fuck was going on. Not my favourite song on the album. The best thing about this song is Common using an MC Hammer line, but thats about it for me. The beat is alright but Common seems to squeak through it a bit. Not a wack song, but not a great one.

12. chapter 13 (rich man vs. poor man). Song starts off paying homage to the I Got Soul acapella by Eric B. and Rakim. This joint features Ynot and picks the mood and pace of the album back up. The beat is fantastic and both Common and Ynot just bounce lyrics off each other. I absolutely love the I Got Soul tribute in this song. Cool trumpets and shit in the background.

13. maintaining. Fantastic piano loop throughout this joint, and tight beat to blend in with the piano loop. Again, Common's flow and lyrical deliverly can't really be faulted on this track. Nice track helping to maintain (forgive the pun) the strong end to the album.

14. sum sh*t i wrote. Piano greets us again at the beginning of this song. Pretty pro-black song here, with Common addressing a lot of racial issues. Slower song than the previous two, but this takes nothing away from the quality of it. This is the final Common track on the album and it leaves you feeling pleased with the money you've just spent.

15. pop's rap. This was the start to the long running series that finishes off Common's next two albums also (One Day It'll All Make Sense and Like Water For Chocolate). Pretty nice way to end of this album. Common's 'father' just telling a story, rhyimg his words at times over a nice laid back beat that has been the tone for the whole album.

Overall, if you don't have this album, you should have had it yesterday. It is an all time hip-hop classic and it is Common at his best. I liked One Day It'll All Make Sense, I liked his first release, Can I Borrow A Dollar? I loved Like Water For Choclate, but this album is his best and it saddens me when I hear Electric Circus. The sooner Common gets away from Okayplayer and ?uestlove the better, I think. He is Common, not Black Thought version 2.0. Although I enjoyed some cuts off Electric Circus, Common is at his best when he is flowing over a beat from the beginning and not having to wait a full minute, sometimes more on a track full of instruments, before he can actually begin rapping.

Rating = 10 out of 10.

[Simon]

Should have internet access within the month, and I've bought a shiteload of CDs recently, reviews soon enough.

Ghostface Killah's 'Bulletproof Wallets' rules.

[QuietStorm]

The new Canibus single entitled 'Spartibus' is set to be released anytime now. And the Rip the Jacker album is officially set for a July 22nd release date.

Jedi Mind Tricks album 'Visions of Gandhi' will be released on August 26th and that will also be the starting date of the Canibus/JMT tour.

The summer of Bis is coming!

[spanish announce table]

Thanks for that information.

I copped the new IRS on monday...i might review it

[Brennino]

Not gonna do a review right now, but just to give this album major props.

Southernundergroud by Cunninlyguists. If you're an underground cat, or commercial... doesn't matter... check this album out. I can't listen to the joints of it enough.

Stand out tracks:
- Seasons (featuring Masta Ace). Breaks the history of hip-hop into the four seasons of the year. Amazing lyrics.
- The South. Possibly the craziest flute loop I've ever heard on a track.
- Doin Alright. Unbelieveably deep track, second verse dealing with 9/11.
- Oldschool. Some really cool lines in here. Nice concept for a song. "Right before R. Kelly had his teens and Slick Rick had his rings."

This album is so dope, you have to listen to it to appreciate it. Best drop this year thus far.

[QuietStorm]

Yes! I totally agree with you Brennino. I put this over a while back.

[Brennino]

Alright, my bad. Good lookin.

[spanish announce table]

Whose heard of Chingy? Ugh.

[Full_Blooded_Italian]

what do you guys think about Bone Thugs N Harmony? in my mind i think there the best rap group in history.. no questions asked!

[QuietStorm]

Bizzy was Bone. Without him they don't have nearly the same aura. Plus their last two albums were pretty horrible. E 1999 Eternal was a classic though.

[Brennino]

The best rap group in history?

Sorry there duke, but there are a lot better who have brought a lot more to the rap game and have made history themselves, namely... Public Enemy, OutKast, A Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, Wu-Tang Clan, EPMD, The Roots... these are just some of the names that come of the top of my head.

Even currently, groups such as Jurassic 5 and Blacklicious are producing a hella lot better music than the likes of Thug World Order.

[EL-ASSO-WIPO]

I just downloaded a Song called "DESPERADOS" by Nas and Cannibus. Tight shit..IM feeling it. Any recommendations on Cannibus tracks that have phat beats? He has tight lyrics in all his songs but some of the beats are lacking I have noticied.

[Brennino]

Does anyone know just why it is that The Horsemen suck so much? I mean with the four or five cats that are in it you would think they would have dropped some crazy material by now... but it just sucks.

El-Asso-Wipo... go and download "Beasts From The East."

[Suno]

Anyone have a fucking clue as to when Crooked I's album is dropping, I been waiting for that shit scince like last August, fuck sakes Suge! :mad:

[QuietStorm]

My sources tell me that it will drop in August, no later.

[QuietStorm]

"Fuck a beat, I've been rhyming for ages"

Canibus - Broke Ass
Canibus - Get Off Ya Knees
Canibus - 100 Bars
Canibus - Rip Is Alive
Canibus - 2000 B.C.
Canibus - A Different Vibe In L.A.
Canibus - Bis vs. Rip
Canibus - Behind Enemy Rhymes
Canibus - Box Cutter Blade Runner
Canibus - Buckingham Palace
Canibus - C Section
Canibus - Cenoir Studies 02
Canibus - Channel Zero
Canibus - Tony Touch freestyle
Canibus - Doomsday News
Canibus - Dr. C PHD
Canibus - Get Retarded
Canibus - HIV is Gold, AIDS is Platinum
Canibus/Horsemen - Horsementality
Canibus - How We Roll
Canibus - I Honor U
Canibus/Rakim - I'll Buss 'Em U Punish 'Em
Canibus - Indestructable
Canibus - Last Laugh (2nd verse is my favorite Canibus verse ever)
Canibus - Let's Ride
Canibus/Jedi Mind Tricks - Liberal Arts
Canibus - Lost @ 'C'
Canibus/Common - Making A Name For Ourselves
Canibus - Master Thesis
Canibus - Mic-Nificent
Canibus/Lost Boyz/Daz and Kurupt - Music Makes Me High
Canibus - Patriots Remix
Canibus - Poet Laureate
Canibus - R U Lyrically Fit (just fast forward through the first 55 seconds of Luminati crap)
Canibus - Rip Rock
Canibus - Rip the Jacker
Canibus - 2nd Round K.O.
Canibus - The C-Quel
Canibus - The Grand Deception
Canibus - The Rip Off
Canibus - U Didn't Care Remix
Canibus - How Many MC's
Canibus - Watch Who U Beef Wit
Canibus - What's Going On
Canibus - Who Owns You?
Canibus - How Come
Canibus/Horsemen - Horsemen Talk
Canibus/Horsemen - Talkin Da Talk

...and countless other freestyles and such that I don't feel like naming.

Plus, on the new Ras Kass Catch Me If You Can bootleg album there is going to be a new Horsemen song on there. I'll probably get that off of mIRC tomorrow.

And the new Rip the Jacker album is going to be released July 22nd with all the production coming from Stoupe of Jedi Mind Tricks. It is being billed as having the illest battle rhymes ever recorded The first single off of it, "Spartibus", is expected to be released any day now.

Canibus truly is the greatest.

[jesus sucks]

I was around buying albums back then, and E1999 Eternal was probably the only "classic" album from that era I never really liked. The way they rap is amazin' like, but to me the beats were mainly all poor, and I didn't really like their lyrics much either. I only ever listen to 1st of tha month and budda lovas. And the good version of Crossroads wasn't even on it to begin with. I mean u had people like GZA, Rae and ODB, DJ premier, Mobb Deep, LL Cool J, Tha Dogg Pound, 2pac and the rest Death Row Records making probably the best albums & music ever imo and E1999 is bland compared to what else was coming out then.

[Brennino]

Canibus is truly the greatest?

Ha.

[spanish announce table]

Originally posted by Brennino
Does anyone know just why it is that The Horsemen suck so much? I mean with the four or five cats that are in it you would think they would have dropped some crazy material by now... but it just sucks.

El-Asso-Wipo... go and download "Beasts From The East."

Ive heard from Canibus and Killah Priest over a 2 year span that a Horsemen album is coming out. Damn labels. How do the horsemen suck? Have you heard "horsementality"?

[QuietStorm]

Apparently someone important does have the album and is planning on releasing it on the internet sometime this summer as a BOOTLEG.

[Suno]

I saw an interview with Joe Buddens, and what he said just rang totally true about 'bis, it was along of the lines of this..

'Canibis was all up on the mix tapes, freestyling, and he totally tore the shit out of em, but when he came to putting together and making albums, he sucked'

Now thats what I'm saying....

FOCUS MAYYN!

[QuietStorm]

Yeah...because idiots like Joe Buddens have a nearsighted view of what albums are supposed to consist of. 3 out of 4 of Cani's albums have been majorly hot in my opinion. And we all know that CTHS was a parody of what ALL those idiots think is good music.

When Joe Buddens releases an album himself, I MAY consider giving thought to what he has to say. Until then, fuck him and the rest of the industry.

[Suno]

LMAO, UMDeep, I respect your opinion and all, but stop riding canibis's nuts, he fucking sucks.

[Brennino]

Thank fuck the whole hip-hop community isn't a Canibus dick rider. Suno hit the nail on the head... Canibus can come raw from time to time and he has some skill... but from what I've read here, you all act as if the dude is God. Two of his albums are among the most bland and boring I have ever heard and to be quite honest they are massive disappointments.

Canibus is not the rapper you people are making him out to be.

[QuietStorm]

Actually, pretty much everyone here can't stand him. Spanish Announce Table and I are the only two I know who treat like God.

Because he is:).

[spanish announce table]

Joe Budden is tolerable, but I cant stand his fuckin 'jump off' in every other sentence. And isnt he a crack addict?

Im not a bis dick rider. I dont like all of his shit, but he can rip 99 percent of rappers and rarely comes wack.

as for his albums, first they wanted a battle album and he didnt give that, so he makes a battle album, and everyone calls him one dimensional
:confused:

[Brennino]

So what was his excuse for 'C' True Hollywood Stories?

[spanish announce table]

CTHS was a parody album of the type of rap music that is being put out today. Some tracks show that he didnt fall off (Boxcutter, R U lyrically fit?) But most of them were just weird. I didnt like this album though, so I'll leave it to UM to defend it

MicClub is the shit though

[QuietStorm]

Well, I can't fully defend CTHS. In my opinion, even though he knew what he was doing with it, the whole thing just seems like a waste of studio time. Plus it did not help his image one bit. The crap did sell 50,000+ copies though so it did help get MiClub Music off the ground. And like STA said, there were some hot tracks on there like the two he mentioned, plus The Rip Off, Lemme Hear Something Else, and A Different Vibe In LA. And that is more quality songs than almost all rappers have on their albums. It wasn't up to Canibus standards obviously but he did what he wanted to do at the time. And I respect that.

The guy is a major enigma no doubt but as far as true lyricism and battling goes, no one is on the same pedestal. Hate him all you want Suno and the rest of you bunch. 99 percent of you people could never understand anyways. So I am about ready to just stop trying. But all of you who have yet to hear MiClub should not be talking anyways.

Rip the Jacker...July 22nd. Give it a listen or I won't listen to your opinion.

I am tired from 10 hours of work and this was probably just a bunch of nonsensical rambling about a subject I care a lot about but oh well. Thanks for your time. Bubye.

[Seanny One Ball]

Question: Is the album that "party up" by DMX appears on, any good? I forgot the name but I'd be interested in getting it because "Party Up" is now one of my favourite all time hip hop tunes :yes:

Cheers, all I need is someone to recommend it and I'll get it.

[Suno]

It appears on 'And Then There Was......X', It's a nice album, typical DMX, as for party up being one of you all time fav hip hop tunes, I have to say you have shit taste.

[Seanny One Ball]

I didn't ask for your opinions on my taste, that song is catchy as hell and it's pretty much all I've been playing for the last two days.

Maybe not one of my top ten best hip hop songs of all time, but it's up there. The video is great as well :yes:

[spanish announce table]

I thought that X album was kind of weak. His first 2 were MUCH better

[Brennino]

Decent enough album... but like sat said his first two were much better.

Party Up is alright to bump to once in a while. Also, contains a subtle diss to Eminem.

[QuietStorm]

I thought the subtle diss in there was to Kurupt. Maybe there is another one, I dunno.

Well, DMX has regressed with each album. His first one was amazing and I have to say I haven't really liked any of the next three.

[Prince XL]

I heard somewhere that the subtle diss was actually aimed at Kurrupt...

[QuietStorm]

Beat you to the punch there, Mr. XL:).

[Seanny One Ball]

Could you please point out the diss in the song?
I'm not a fan of Kurrupt so I can't pick it out :no:

Cheers

[Brennino]

Maybe it is then, I thought that the start of Marshall Matthers has a quick reply to it... but it works for Kurupt as well. So we'll go with the majority and say Kurupt. Then when actually listening to the track, Kurupt makes more sense what with dating Foxy at the time and her being pregnant.

Mule... the diss starts out with the line "You're wack, twisted, girl's a ho, you're broke, kid ain't yours and everybody know..."
Or something along those lines, the exact words escape me as of now.

Anyways my bad.

[Brennino]

On that note, has anybody heard Kurupt's diss towards Daz and Snoop on the new Death Row Symphony?

He raps: "Niggas act like bitches
When they ain't true
Before I say another word
Motherfuck Snoop
Dogghouse, eat a big Dogg Pound dick, nigga
It's Gotti
You ain't gon' pimp slap shit
I'm cool, calm and I'm so collected
And you niggas don't respect shit, nigga
They call you Soopafly, I call you Soopacape
Y'all niggas bring the guerillas I ate
They call you Soopafly, I call you Soopabitch
That love to eat snoopa doopa soopa dick
Panties in a cake
Let off pink panties
I drink hennessey, motherfucker
And I'm somebody you don't wanna see, motherfucker
I'm looking in the streets and I see you niggas truents
And I'm riding without Simon's influence, motherfucker"

Pretty weak diss. Sounds like he was rapping more as a Row artist than making it personal.

[Seanny One Ball]

Originally posted by Brennino


Mule... the diss starts out with the line "You're wack, twisted, girl's a ho, you're broke, kid ain't yours and everybody know..."
Or something along those lines, the exact words escape me as of now.

Anyways my bad.


Ah, I see now.

Yeah...when you look at it like that they yeah it could be a pretty blatant diss :yes:

As for that diss towards Snoop - it's shite to be honest :\

[Suno]

Kurupt is like the personification of Death Row, used to be hot as fuck, and everybody new, now he's just ass with no substance and everybody thinks he suck. Death Row rules, Tha Row is shit, Crooked I is on the wrong boat and now I'm never gonna see his album....

:nono:

[Brennino]

Last I heard I do believe that Crooked I was making threats (if that is the right word), that if he didn't see his album this year then he would be bailing ship.

[RockOverBoston]

Originally posted by Government Mule
Ah, I see now.

Yeah...when you look at it like that they yeah it could be a pretty blatant diss :yes:

When you factor in the digs at "up north" and "white", it's extremely blatant. ALMOST as blatant as his Cypress Hill diss on "The Great Depression", though not quite.

[Suno]

Originally posted by Brennino
Last I heard I do believe that Crooked I was making threats (if that is the right word), that if he didn't see his album this year then he would be bailing ship.


Apparently Suge is waiting for the right distribution deal, he wants it selling in every state, every country, every continent. Not some small deal that will only sell in LA and NY, Im just want a full album by him, he's one of the illest out right now.

[QuietStorm]

The album WILL be out in August. I promise you.

[Simon]

Anyone heard/got The Roots 'Phrenology'? I got it yesterday, it's pretty good but not as good as the critics claim...

[Suno]

Yesterday I got 'Do You Want More?!!!??!' by the Roots, and it's immense, as I expected, had been meaning to pick it up for a long time. I also got 'Mecca and the Soul Brother' by Pete Rock and CL Smooth and Love, Peace and Nappiness by The Lost Boyz, I am pleased with my purchases.

[Simon]

Fallacy's debut album 'Blackmarket Boy' is out on Monday, definitely having that...he sucked when supporting Nas though.

Big N' Bashy is apparently a 'novelty' hit :\

[bobster]

I got bone Thugs : Thug World Order the other day. Not really listened to it much yet.

[Simon]

Supposed to be a bit crap.

[Prince XL]

Originally posted by bobster
I got bone Thugs : Thug World Order the other day. Not really listened to it much yet.

Nice CD. I recommend it. Not as good as e1999. Eternal but its ok.

[LOCONUT]

I haven't seen it so I'll just ask. Has no one here had a chance to enjoy GenaCide.

6'2, the guy on the new DOC album is off the charts and GenaCide was his early crew. Definitely the goods.

[50 Cent]

Joe Budden is dropping a album.

[Seanny One Ball]

The single Joe Budden has out on MTV right now is pretty good though, I may consider looking into this :yes:

[spanish announce table]

Anyone heard/got The Roots 'Phrenology'? I got it yesterday, it's pretty good but not as good as the critics claim...

It really is an amazing album, but Things Fall Apart is amazinger

[QuietStorm]

From mtv.com...

"The rapper who once battled LL Cool J and, upon the release of his 1998 major-label debut, Can-I-Bus, was heralded as hip-hop's next big thing, could soon be battling terrorists and rapping about camouflage. Canibus, whose fifth album, Rip the Jacker, hits stores July 22, graduated from Ft. Knox, Tennessee's U.S. Military Academy on May 1 and is now on active duty as a certified cavalry scout/ reconnaissance specialist in the U.S. Army. ..."

[Harry]

Joe Budden blows.

[Suno]

Originally posted by Harry
Joe Budden blows.

false

[Prince XL]

Originally posted by spanish announce table
Things Fall Apart is amazinger

True

[QuietStorm]

Originally posted by Harry
Joe Budden blows.

True.

[QuietStorm]

There is a God.

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Joe Budden May Need Surgery

Def Jam's newest artist, Joe Budden has developed a polyp(tumor) on his throat and has been ordered by doctors to stop rapping until his throat can be fixed. The polyp is not cancerous but still may require surgery to remove.

'I might have to get surgery to get my voice back. I got some swelling going on back there. It just comes from a lot of acid. I drink a lot of acidy shit. You’ll never see me without a beverage...Even now, my voice is a whole lot deeper than normal. You can hear something is going on.'

[Suno]

Quietstorm's just envious that another rapper is going to blow up and bitter old Canibis is making shit albums, and passing them off as parody's, idiot.

[QuietStorm]

No, "idiot", I am glad that people like Canibus don't stoop to the level of making the majority of the people happy and not doing what makes himself and his true fans happy.

I could give a shit about what Joe Buddens thinks about Bis.

[spanish announce table]

Is there even a point in defending Bis now? People just automatically shun him, even though they havent heard Mic Club. All they focus on is the 'bad production' or his 'one sidedness' or CTHS, when there's so much more that people havent heard. So, the canibus-hating is either ignorance, or they just werent fans to begin with. It's like when people dis wrestling, I dont see the need to defend it anymore

[Suno]

Ive heard mic-club, and I must say that I like a few joints on there and the production is mainly strong, but canibis voice and flow starts to get so monotoneous after a while, like i say, i think canibis can be ill in small doses, but I cant stand full albums.

[Flow]

The Blueprint may be Jay Z's most captivating record since Reasonable Doubt, but its predictably detached mood reflects the master hustler's superior ability to trick out lackluster subject matter with lyrical complexity and brief flashes of manufactured introspection. The Blueprint, a solid mix of preprogrammed radio hits ("Izzo," "Girls, Girls, Girls") and better-than-average mid-tempo compositions ("Never Change," "Song Cry"), confirms the Brooklyn rapper's legendary status. Blistering flames of the Queensbridge/Jay Z feud fan high with "Takeover," a direct attack on Nas, set over the Doors' rock & roll burner, "5 to 1." "Renegade" provides the album's only full-on guest appearance. Jay and Eminem take this opportunity to address haters (within the industry and in the general population) who don't understand the mind of an artist. Jigga spells it out on the title track: "Reasonable Doubt--classic, shoulda went triple." The Blueprint might not be quite on par with Reasonable Doubt but it is reasonably good.

-- Rebecca Levine


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Jay-Z ~ The Blueprint

1. Ruler's Back
Nice intro for the album. Nothing really serious or decent or whatever about it, just sets the mood rather nicely.
Rating: N/A

2. Take Over
Arguably one of S.Carter's finer pieces of work, although Jay lost the beef with Nas he did produce this classic song out of it. Set over 5 to 1 and with Josey Scott of Saliva in the background screaming "We run New York", it's a top battle song.
Rating: 10/10

3. Izzo (H.O.V.A.)
I can't help but sing along to the chorus every time, Jay does what he does best and talks about the rise from rags to riches. The song may be for the pop charts but the hook is catchy as fuck. A decent song before overkill and time set in methinks.
Rating: 8/10

4. Girls, Girls, Girls
Some pretty neat lyrical work from Jay in another song essentially for the pop charts and catchy again. Once you've heard the song a good few times it can wear thin on you though, good to listen to during summer and good times n shit.
Rating: 7/10

5. Jigga That Nigga
Didn't like this song all that much when I first heard the album, it's grown on me though and it's a cool track. Whenever I play this album I just play it all the way through, this is a good one to just have playing in the background while you're getting drunk or whatever.
Rating: 8/10

6. U Don't Know
Probably just me but I fucking love this song. Another one about Jay's rise from the streets to the fame. "I. Will. Not. Lose. Ever...Fucka." Quality. I love the beat too, 'specially the outro. Definitely prefer this to the f/M.O.P. Remix. Great song if you're feelin' it, turn it up.
Rating: 10/10

7. Hola' Hovita
Another song with a decent beat and a catchy hook. Not the sort of song you sit down and get deep to, great to have in the background and sing along with the chorus. However "If I ain't better than B.I.G., I'm the closest one"... I think not. Regardless, it's a decent track.
Rating: 8/10

8. Heart of the City (Ain't No Love)
A song about haters. "What you eat don't make me shit", class. Another catchy as fuck hook with a decent beat, Jay's flow is on song meeting the beat too. Nothing too great about the lyrics or subject matter, they all flow together well though.
Rating: 8/10

9. Never Change
I'm not a huge fan of this one, think it should maybe be placed a couple songs further down the track listing as the album subject matter becomes more sincere and the beats slow down. It's an alright song, wouldn't call it a filler but it ain't anything that I'm greatly feeling.
Rating: 7/10

10. Song Cry
If you find depiction in this song, it fucking rules. A song about a woman he got dumped by (well the last verse is...), uncharacteristic of Hova to do a "love song". Great, great song.
Rating: 10/10

11. All I Need
"All I need is the R.O.C.", wouldn't be a Jay-Z LP if he didn't have a track giving props to people who if they weren't his boys I'd never have heard of them. Alright song, as close as this album gets to a filler. If I skip a trick during playing it's this one.
Rating: 7/10

12. Renagade FEAT: Eminem
Depends whether you like Jigga or Em... if you like both (like I do) this song is tight. Like the thing above says it's directed at haters in and outside of the industry. One of my fav lines is "You fuckin' do-gooders too bad you couldn't do good at marriage". Jay once again ventures back to his past. Great song... turn it up.
Rating: 10/10

13. Blueprint (Momma Loves Me)
Another song I love, simple, slow beat. Carter basically talks over it. Doing what he does best... Jay talks about all of the people who helped him through childhood in Marcy. The song ends with a little message to Memphis Bleek and that is the end of that. Class song in my liking.
Rating: 9/10

The mean track rating is round about 5/6, which can't be too bad. All the songs get a 7/10 or higher. Maybe I'm biased because I'm a mainstream and Jay-Z fan, but the album is quality. The track order goes a little off the bandwagon for my liking at the end, however there are hot tracks through from beginning to end which is the main thing. Some of the song ideas (hot beat, catchy hook, etc.) are samey and there's nothing Jay-Z likes to talk about more than his rise from nothing to something. (Not that I can blame him)... which maybe brings down the rating a tiny bit. Another thing, unlike Blueprint 2, it's good to see the whole album bar "Renegade" to be solely Jay on his own. BP2 features 14 songs with other artists and only 11 on his own... give me the original Blueprint anyday.

Overall Rating: 9/10

Hip-Hop classic? Jay's finest work? Both things are arguable and disputed, decent album though well worth pickin' up for anyone who ain't got it or digs Jay-Z. I picked it up for like £7 about three weeks ago, can't go bad with that.

Peace.

[Flow]

I bought Life After Death recently for a fiver like. BUT! I've looked at Amazon.com and it's apparently 2 CD's... the thing I bought is only one CD and looks to be some kind of combination of the two (like Jay-Z's Blueprint 2.1 CD)...

Was one of these things actually released or was I just swivelled? The one CD version isn't on Amazon.com and they've got like every other CD in the world...

any ideas?

[Suno]

HAHAHAHAHA, silly flow, the original was a 2 disk set, but they also released a 'best' of both disks LP, thing is they probably both retail at around the same price, which is ludicrous, I say you got 'swivelled' take it back and get the double disk.

[Prince XL]

Originally posted by Suno
take it back and get the double disk.


Hey Flow, is it true that on the single disk they changed "Fucking You Tonite" to "Lovin You Tonite"?

[Flow]

Yeah the bastards - I got it out of Golden Disc so it was only like a Fiver...it's the only Biggie CD they had in the whole store. I'm not so fucked about it as to go take it back or whatever, it'll do for a fiver...

but yeah - the whole cd's censored :mad:

I'll find the proper one in a shop somewhere for about £20 and buy it sometime.

Edit: Yeah Prince it's called "Lovin You Tonight", and "Ten Crack Commandments" is just called "Ten Commandments".

[Prince XL]

Originally posted by Flow


but yeah - the whole cd's censored :mad:

Edit: Yeah Prince it's called "Lovin You Tonight", and "Ten Crack Commandments" is just called "Ten Commandments".

Fucking disgraceful

[Flow]

meh, I ain't gonna complain for a fiver

[Webbicho]

NAS - NAStradamus

So I saw it for 15 bucks under the impression Nas's worst album would probably be better than most of the new shit thats being shoved down my throat on the radio. And guess what? I was right. But I was also right that Nas is not in form on this one. There is alot of filler.

Prediction: Good intro, no bullshit, but a good "poem recital(sp)" so to speak, which goes deep in to the pysche of a pregnant woman living in a slum, how she sees it, what alternate possibiltys there could be and the general nature of the black community all in about 2 minutes, which is a good effort.

Then we got Life we choose. The name speaks for itself and it a good effort aswell. 7/10

Cause it's hard to fuck around when we dealin with science
My enemies got money, so y'all should watch how I play it
They never know we enemies until they hear me say it
Til they kid's on the phone sayin, "Please daddy pay it"
Til they brain's on the floor, mixed on the pavement
High-class elegance, you respect or you hiss
You go against you'd rather piss on an electrical fence

3 Nastradamus - Pretty average for a title track. Shit beat and chorus, but good verses. I really hate the beat of this song. lyrics - 71/2

/10 - the rest 2/10

4 Some of us have angels is next and is a pretty crappy song 4 1/2 /10

5 Project Windows - Better than the last but not really a standout track - 6/10

6 Come get me - This is where Nastradamus picks up again I heard and thought PREMO checked and was corrrect again. So obviously the production is mad on this song, the lyrics don't slack either. 81/2 / 10

7. Shoot em up. Has to be heard to understood. Nursery ryhme ryhmes. Heh. 81/2 /10

8 Last words ft Nashawn Millenniem thug. Not a bad song not a great song, some dark themes but Nas ain't as hard as he claims to be in this song. 61/2 /10

9. Family ft Mobb Deep. Queensbridge nigga. 71/2 /10

10. God Love us - Asks questions about whether god would forgive gansta's and killlers etc in a rather rhetorical fashion. 7/10

11. Quiet niggas ft Bravehearts. Good song for Bravehearts but that doesn't mean its great. Basic "Quiet dudes are the one who will flip" shit 6/10

12. Big girl. Nas ain't good at love songs :rolleyes: 6/10

13. New world. Its the Rule or If I ruled the World of Nastradamus. Brings up how we would be without computers and how because we put them together we will always be able to pull them apart. Says maybe he's old fashioned. Maybe thats why the beat is off some old song my dad listens to occasionally. :shrug: 8/10

14. You Owe me ft Ginuwine - Some sort of pimp/playa shit. Some good rhymes. Claims because he gave chicks money and bought them stuff they owe him sex. 61/2 /10

15. Outcome. Same chick from the 1st song. Trippy poem - but good.

Overall: 6/10

I'm probably rating him harshly because he's normally so good, but oh well. It was Ja Rule it would get 8 or 9. But its Nas so he's gets a measzly 6.

BAH this took ages.

[Brennino]

Ja Rule's six month hiatus from the rap world has lasted two weeks.

He has done yet another installment in the beef with 50 Cent, Dre, Aftermath etc by teaming up with Fatal Hussien from the Outlawz. Tupac turns in his grave once more (figurtively of course).

[spanish announce table]

what's fatal's beef with 50? this is just getting stupid. no one cares anymore

[Webbicho]

/Webbicho groans

[Webbicho]

Originally posted by Flow
Yeah the bastards - I got it out of Golden Disc so it was only like a Fiver...it's the only Biggie CD they had in the whole store. I'm not so fucked about it as to go take it back or whatever, it'll do for a fiver...

but yeah - the whole cd's censored :mad:

I'll find the proper one in a shop somewhere for about £20 and buy it sometime.

Edit: Yeah Prince it's called "Lovin You Tonight", and "Ten Crack Commandments" is just called "Ten Commandments".

HAHAHAHA Thats fucked.

Also Renegade doesn't derserve 10/10 and takeover is only like a 9.

HA Izzo is only like a 6 too.

[QuietStorm]

Ja Rule is changing his name to The Black Dove and is releasing a "supposedly" less-commercial, more political album this fall.

Although if he gives another album like his debut it may be a welcome blessing, this is no doubt going to draw even more criticism of him trying to be just like Pac.

[Suno]

Originally posted by QuietStorm
Ja Rule is changing his name to The Black Dove and is releasing a "supposedly" less-commercial, more political album this fall.

Although if he gives another album like his debut it may be a welcome blessing, this is no doubt going to draw even more criticism of him trying to be just like Pac.

:\

That could well be a blessing, I've never bought a Ja Rule album but I've always loved Holla Holla, that joint is dope as fuck, if he can switch it up drastically i may have to peep. Everyone bites pac, accusing Ja Rule is hypocritical even if he does it more than others.

[50 Cent]

Originally posted by QuietStorm
No, "idiot", I am glad that people like Canibus don't stoop to the level of making the majority of the people happy and not doing what makes himself and his true fans happy.

I could give a shit about what Joe Buddens thinks about Bis.

Canibus is one of the most boring rappers out there. He has absolutley no direction with his albums. His battle with LL was sick I will admit that. He got LL good, but this guy is not cut to drop albums. His shit is all the same and boring. If I wanna learn about photosynthesis I will go back to Science, this guy is boring.

Joe Budden is energetic something different, hes not the greatest just some fun music in a very shitty year in rap music.

Gangstarr the Ownerz is dropping in June also I heard. Should be a nice month for hip hop music. This year has been horrid.

[50 Cent]

Originally posted by QuietStorm
Ja Rule is changing his name to The Black Dove and is releasing a "supposedly" less-commercial, more political album this fall.

Although if he gives another album like his debut it may be a welcome blessing, this is no doubt going to draw even more criticism of him trying to be just like Pac.

The Black Dove what the fuck, he is dropping a double album as far as I know.

Articles from MTV.com

Queens, New York
Rapper Ja Rule is dropping his double album sometime in 2004 said his producer Irv Gotti. "This nigga Ja hes got a lot of shit on his mind right now about relationships, and females, he's gonna sing his ass off on this double album."

Irv also stated they have completed 4 tracks for the upcoming album and plan to break for 3 months and record the first disc, and start the second disc.

Of the 4 songs completed "Gangsta Lover" featuring Ashanti is going to be the first single. "I sampled Temptations from 2pac and put this track together Ja sings the hook and Ashanti raps the 2nd verse, this song is hot."

Gotti also said this album will be one of the greatest ever released, and said it is going to be comparable to 2Pac's R U Still Down. "Ja really wanted to emulate that album, so has it all planned out in his head a trick he learned from Jay-Z." Irv also said this album will feature a ton of guest apperances and more 2pac sampling. "You can't have a Ja Rule album without Ashanti on every other track(Gotti Laughed then ate his doughnut), lots of guest apperances, Ja has a new group also all over this album called the Outbacks."

[Webbicho]

Scarface has a new one out

Cant fucking wait!

[Webbicho]

Originally posted by 50 Cent
The Black Dove what the fuck, he is dropping a double album as far as I know.

Articles from MTV.com

Queens, New York
Rapper Ja Rule is dropping his double album sometime in 2004 said his producer Irv Gotti. "This nigga Ja hes got a lot of shit on his mind right now about relationships, and females, he's gonna sing his ass off on this double album."

Irv also stated they have completed 4 tracks for the upcoming album and plan to break for 3 months and record the first disc, and start the second disc.

Of the 4 songs completed "Gangsta Lover" featuring Ashanti is going to be the first single. "

I sampled Temptations from 2pac and put this track together Ja sings the hook and Ashanti raps the 2nd verse, this song is hot."

Gotti also said this album will be one of the greatest ever released, and said it is going to be comparable to 2Pac's R U Still Down. "Ja really wanted to emulate that album, so has it all planned out in his head a trick he learned from Jay-Z." Irv also said this album will feature a ton of guest apperances and more 2pac sampling. "You can't have a Ja Rule album without Ashanti on every other track(Gotti Laughed then ate his doughnut), lots of guest apperances, Ja has a new group also all over this album called the Outbacks."

:lol:

Funny cunt. :yes:

[Seanny One Ball]

Originally posted by Suno
:\

That could well be a blessing, I've never bought a Ja Rule album but I've always loved Holla Holla, that joint is dope as fuck, if he can switch it up drastically i may have to peep. Everyone bites pac, accusing Ja Rule is hypocritical even if he does it more than others.


Holla is great because the tune is basic and he flows non stop throughout it.

His newer stuff is crap just because he tries to sing too much and has gaps where Ashanti sings. That's selling out :\

Also Webbicho: Scarface new album? Fucking sweet :yes:

[Suno]

My Balls and My Word is just some un-released shit that J-Prince has decided to release to make a quick buck, its not an official 'face album, I heard it's not all that, it aint no Fix.

[QuietStorm]

Originally posted by 50 Cent
Canibus is one of the most boring rappers out there. He has absolutley no direction with his albums. His battle with LL was sick I will admit that. He got LL good, but this guy is not cut to drop albums. His shit is all the same and boring. If I wanna learn about photosynthesis I will go back to Science, this guy is boring.

Joe Budden is energetic something different, hes not the greatest just some fun music in a very shitty year in rap music.

Gangstarr the Ownerz is dropping in June also I heard. Should be a nice month for hip hop music. This year has been horrid.

Well, I feel 50 Cent is boring and I don't listen to him. It is all a matter of opinion. MiClub made me SMARTER listening to it because it makes you want to research some of the lines and the background behind them. You don't see that with too many rappers. And I don't find that boring at all. And on tracks like Cenoir Studies and Curriculum 101 it is amazing he can spit so many bars with such an amazing flow and lyrical content. You cannot deny his talent.

50 is fun for some people, commercial as hell with the beats and lyrics though. Canibus is a breath of fresh air.

And with a single out June 24th, an album July 22nd, an American tour, and rumors of him being in the Army, this really is the summer of Bis.

The argument is never going to end. Like SAT and I have said...it's all a matter of opinion and what sounds good to you.


I don't give a shit about Joe Buddens. He is annoying. But I am hyped as hell about that Gang Starr album. Skillz was a very nice single and Premo and Guru always come on point. Should be one of the best of the year if not the past few years.

[50 Cent]

A terrible year thus far for rap, one of the worst I must say. Its almost half over and we dont even have a fucking great album. I can't belive 2002 and 2001 look better then this year.

[QuietStorm]

Joe Buddens album leaked today and I have NO problem with bootlegging it:).

For those interested...

01 - Intro
02 - #1
03 - Pump It Up
04 - Pusha Man
05 - U Ain't Gotta Go Home
06 - Walk With Me
07 - She Wanna Know (feat. Lil' Mo)
08 - Survivor
09 - Fire (feat. Busta Rhymes)
10 - Ma Ma Ma (feat. 112)
11 - Calm Down
12 - Focus
13 - Give Me Reason
14 - Stand Up Nucca
15 - 10 Mins
16 - Real Life In Rap
17 - Porno Star

[Suno]

I heard it's an above average album, 4/5 apparently.

[spanish announce table]

Gangstarr, Outkast, and Canibus.......what a summer this will be

[Suno]

Gangstarr Outkast and hopefully Crooked I, thats the shit.

[Webbicho]

Yeh some of the songs are pretty chatty, and "make your peace" is the exact same lyrics as "heaven" from the fix.

Theres a nice track with Devin the dude that I heard... "only a mother" And on my grind is good, but not great, and obviously bitch nigga is on there and that not that great either. <- He isn't specific enough.

AAAAAAAnd its rapalot.

[50 Cent]

Originally posted by spanish announce table
Gangstarr, Outkast, and Canibus.......what a summer this will be

Canibus is wack.

Gangstarr should be great, hopefully Crooked I will drop a album, the west is dying they need someone to step up.

Jay-Z's Black Album should be great also, maybe he finally drop his classic album. I hear he wants Premo to do the Intro and track #1 on this album. No Timbaland, Neptunes, and Trackmasters should make this a awesome album.

[Seanny One Ball]

I'm considering actually buying a Canibus album, just to make sure I know I don't like him.

Name some of his better stuff QuietStorm - I'll either download it or buy it :yes:

[Flow]

The Curriculum
2000 B.C
Can-I-Bus

[QuietStorm]

On page 14 I have a list of good Canibus tracks IMO.

If you ever want to hit me up on AOL IM sometime (UMDeepTerp), I could probably hook you up with a few good tracks if you want.

[spanish announce table]

Do we have to go over this Canibus argument again? A 50cent fan calling bis wack? Do I even need to argue that?

[50 Cent]

Originally posted by spanish announce table
Do we have to go over this Canibus argument again? A 50cent fan calling bis wack? Do I even need to argue that?

Sorry but 50's music is enjoyable is not boredom at its finest. I listen to other lyrical rappers like Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Common who actually know how to make entertaining songs.

[Seanny One Ball]

I downloaded "last laugh", now that is a fine song :yes:

I downloaded a couple of others and it convinced me to get a couple of his albums for pretty cheap from Amazon.co.uk

Always looking to expand the collection :cool:

I ordered The Curriculum and 200B.C btw, I saw CTHS and avoided it :\

[Brennino]

Download "Beasts From The East". Thats Cannibus at his best.

Just heard a new diss track by Crooked I on Snoop Dogg and kinda spits on 50 too. Its over the Ignition remix beat and Crooked flows pretty well over it. Nice diss track.

Also heard a new Daz diss track on Kurupt and Suge. Kinda fucked up the Doggpound beefin now. Its over "In Da Club" beat... some good lyrics but as we all know, beat is way to overplayed.

[Brennino]

Originally posted by spanish announce table
what's fatal's beef with 50? this is just getting stupid. no one cares anymore

He said that he used to be Ja's homeboy and they used to chill from time to time when Ja went to his hood. He thought Eminem and 50 Cent flowing over the Hail Mary beat was really disrespectful to Tupac.

He went on to basically say how desrespectful and hypocritical it was of 50 to call Ja a Pac clone while flowing over the Hail Mary beat and stealing the lyrics, lines and flow of Pac and also the chorus of Pac's "Against All Odds".

Then he made the motherfucker of all comments along the lines of if Pac was still alive Ja Rule is the type of cat he'd roll with. Someone recieved a Murder INC backhander.

[spanish announce table]

thanks for posting that Brennino. Why do people keep saying pac would hang with them? It's just stupid

[Brennino]

The reason being if enough people happen to believe the bullshit that Pac would hang with them, then they would appear to have taken his mantle of being the "realest" mutha fucka in rap.

Also, sales generation, etc etc.

[Brennino]

Just another note... this Crooked I diss is immense. He so needs to fuckin drop already.

Out of personal interest... how many of you cats have read "Got Your Back"? The auto biography from Tupac's bodyguard Frank Alexander. I read it for the first time last week. Hella good read.

[Suno]

Originally posted by Brennino

Just heard a new diss track by Crooked I on Snoop Dogg and kinda spits on 50 too. Its over the Ignition remix beat and Crooked flows pretty well over it. Nice diss track.



It's from the Dysfuntional Family mixtape/promo, its hella short, about 6 tracks, but they all show why Crooked I is creating a nice buzz for himself, I can sort you out the links to the rest of tracks from it if you like.

[Brennino]

Sure thing.

[50 Cent]

2pac is the goat

[Brennino]

Thank you for that.

Although he is my favourite rapper, Tupac is not the greatest of all time.

Try Rakim.

[Seanny One Ball]

I disagree, LL Cool J is the G.O.A.T :wired:

[Suno]

I got De La Souls greatest hits, plus a bonus disk today. Paid 13 quid for 27 songs, cant go wrong.

[50 Cent]

Originally posted by Brennino
Thank you for that.

Although he is my favourite rapper, Tupac is not the greatest of all time.

Try Rakim.

Naw man Pac is the greatest, most influential, he dropped 2 argubally 3 classic albums back to back to back. He never fell off. Pac is the greatest emcee of all time, if you mix everything into one he is the best. Not the greatest lyrsict but there are lots of other factors that make a great Mc.

[QuietStorm]

Greatest rapper ever is obviously Ja Rule. I mean...all the facts are there. He is gangsta.

Well...he did rip 50/Shady/Aftermath at least.

[Brennino]

He did rip 50 yeah. I think Eminem showed when he wants he could easily rip Ja a few hundred assholes and Dre didn't even want any of the beef. As he said, he's old and just wants to make money.

I'm a hornet and I'm only gonna move when I'm cornered.

[Seanny One Ball]

I listened to 50 Cent being interviewed about his beef with Ja Rule. It made me want to slap his face.

Something's going wrong when Ja Rule comes off as a better rapper than you.

[Brennino]

I don't know. Yes, too much of Ja is nothing but a bad thing. But when dude actually does decide to flow and not break up his songs with crooning, he can rhyme.

I am not about to jump on the bandwagon, that I knew would come when 50 blew up, of hating him ever since his album blew the fuck up. But... for the most part Ja Rule did eat his ass during this beef. But to say Rule beat the whole Aftermath camp is wrong, I think. Eminem's songs were superior.

The only good thing to come out of the beef, was Murder Inc aligning with Tha Row, which meant that I got to hear more Crooked I.

[Seanny One Ball]

I don't hate 50 Cent, I really like his album and his pre-shady records stuff was good too. I just don't like his diss tracks and the fact that he hasn't yet proven how good he is at freestyling or rhyming properly.

I've never been a fan of Ja Rule either, but he seriously tore 50 up on a couple of tapes. He had a nice diss on Eminem too involving Kim and how Hailey will turn out when she's older too.

:yes:

The track 50 and Em did about Ja not riding with Tupac was shit though, that was pretty ironic too seeing as how Pac probably wouldn't have been riding with them either.

[Brennino]

The Eminem verse on Bang Heads outdid anything Ja Rule had to say really. The Hail Mary diss wan't that great, but I have to admit Eminem flowed really well over it and Busta silenced Ja within his verse, also.

The 50 Cent comment wasn't directed towards yourself. I've just realised the current trend of many hip-hop fans suddenly saying how much they hate him.

In reality, its funny. Most of the people will be the same to boost Canibus at the drop of a hat when he was the dude that was in exactly the same position as 50 Cent a few years ago. The underground king all ready to drop a dope fuckin album... only Canibus fucked up and 50 delivered.

[Harry]

Ja Rule's disses have been better than 50's, but his recent pop past destroyed any chance of him being considered the better of the two on the streets...same as Nelly killed KRS, but wasn't really recognised. 50 Cent will always come off better against Ja Rule anyway because while Ja Rule has, IMO, ripped 50 so far, Eminem has torn Ja Rule apart on the same stuff. If that makes sense?

[QuietStorm]

"they claim i rap the rhythm and blues, but when i turn on the radio, i see yall niggaz rappin it too"

EXACTLY. You gotta admit that Ja served them with that line.

[Harry]

Not especially...50 Cent has one R&B song out (21 Questions), that's all. The rest of his album is pure hip-hop. Not GOOD pure hip-hop, but it's not R&B. Ja Rule's last 2 albums have been R&B, and he's making his living out of R&B tracks.

That's how I see it, but I maintain that as far as the 50/Ja feud goes, Ja is taking 50.

[Brennino]

The Hail Mary diss was the fact that really showed me 50 doesn't really have what it requires to beat Ja. The whole verse had Pac puking his guts up.

[Harry]

Eminem saved him though.

50 sounds drunk when he's rapping. And not cool drunk like ODB, just knobhead drunk like you could find in any pub in Britain on a Sunday afternoon.

[Brennino]

To be honest, 50 is just above Ma$e and Fabolous when it comes to rapping voice and flow. Barely above them.

[Harry]

He sounds similar to Mase. Never thought of that before now.

Fabolous sucks, that new song with Mr. Cheeks blows goats.

Good old Dizzee Rascal eh? :)

[Brennino]

Shite Rascal.

[Harry]

Ne-gro PLEASE.

[Suno]

Bullshit, I wont tolerate this Ma$e hate, Ma$e was nice as fuck.

[Harry]

Each to his own. Even if his own is a no-flow, gay-voiced, R&B flavoured priest.

[Flow]

Originally posted by Brennino
The Hail Mary diss was the fact that really showed me 50 doesn't really have what it requires to beat Ja. The whole verse had Pac puking his guts up.

50 bites Jigga on "Hail Mary", that's my favourite bit of his verse

[spanish announce table]

50 claims he's going to put the wack dudes out of business, but what is he doing? Biting Ja's whole singing style (despite dissing it) and jacking the whole "Put it on me" video concept for "21 Questions".

He makes fun of Ja for copying 2pac, but he does this ON A TRACK WITH TUPAC. Both these guys disgust me

Man, hip hop is going straight down the shitter. Will someone leak Outkast so it can be pushed up?

[Brennino]

Originally posted by Flow
50 bites Jigga on "Hail Mary", that's my favourite bit of his verse

The majority of the song is 50 biting the exact lyrics from the original Hail Mary and using exactly the same delievery. He then goes on to bite the chorus from Against All Odds.

[Webbicho]

Ma$e is better than 50, and so is Fabolous.

:lol:

Really.

[Seanny One Ball]

Fabolous is such a fuckin loser, the few songs I've heard have hardly echoed in my ears. To me he is Silkk the Shocker to 50 Cent's Mystikal.

And while I'm on the subject of Mystikal, has he been doing much recently? He had Tarantula out a while back but I didn't bother to get it for some reason. I'll probably get it, but I'm interested to see what the big man has been up to.

Now he, is a great rapper :yes:

[Brennino]

He was on rape charges last I heard.

[Seanny One Ball]

Oh for fuck's sake, what a fucking joke.

Mystikal aint no rapist.

His raps were stupidly fast sometimes, he needs to release more stuff. Not waste time raping folks.

[Brennino]

Yo Suno... whats the name of the Crooked I diss track over the Ignition remix beat? Tried downloading, but can't find it.

[Harry]

Mystikal is shite.

[Seanny One Ball]

Originally posted by Brennino
Yo Suno... whats the name of the Crooked I diss track over the Ignition remix beat? Tried downloading, but can't find it.


Me too, same problem.

Harry: You're speaking nonsense

[Suno]

It's called Quit Snitchin, the links for that mixtape dont work anymore either, if you're ever online hit me up and I can send them to you.

[Harry]

Originally posted by Seanny One Ball
Me too, same problem.

Harry: You're speaking nonsense No I'm not. Mystikal is shite. Can't rap for shit, rhymes about tired subjects (SHAKE YA ASS? No thanks.) and generally relies on the beats.

[Seanny One Ball]

Mystikal has a flow best described as phenomenal. He now only flows fast and solidly, his rhymes are about a lot more than a womans arse.

You gotta listen to "Lets Get Ready" - quality album.

[QuietStorm]

Mystikal is horrible. Rapping James Brown my ass.

Plus he was a No Limit Soldier:nono:.

[Suno]

Shut the fuck up Quiet Storm, Mystikal has more charisma in his pube than mono-bis, Undpredictable is an all right album, I dont like beats by the pound though, but Lets Get Ready was pretty diverse and intresting, HB2k3 is just being 'ignant' when he says he just raps about 'tired subjects', thats BULL!

[QuietStorm]

Shut the fuck up Britain. Your opinion isn't needed.

[QuietStorm]

The new Canibus album cover for his single:).

http://www.boomspeed.com/blaza/spart.gif

[Prince XL]

Originally posted by QuietStorm
The new Canibus album cover for his single



:wtf:

[Suno]

AHAHAHAHAAH, what the fuck does canibis no about falling off? he was never 'on', sheesh.

[QuietStorm]

Whoops, not album...how did that word get in there?

[Brennino]

I thought the title to Canibus' new album was going to be "Somebody please wise up and think this is good."

[Suno]

Originally posted by Brennino
I thought the title to Canibus' new album was going to be "Somebody please wise up and think this is good."

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.


!!!!!!

[Brennino]

You there... Suno.

AIM?

MSN?

[QuietStorm]

More like "Somebody wise up and not let real intelligence go over your head"

Keep listening to your Joey Buttcrack and other unoriginal mainstream acts though. Fine with me.

Ah well, at least we agree that Crooked I is the next big thing, right Suno?

[Suno]

Im on MSN

[Suno]

You cant deny Crooked I!!!

[Brennino]

Um, you don't have to exclusively listen to commercial rap to realise Canibus is an over rated chump.

[Webbicho]

Shut up about Canibis. Make a Canibis disscussion thread, and fight about it there.

[QuietStorm]

Hey, I had no intention of bringing the Canibus discussion back right now but Suno just had to call him "Mono-bis".

It is obviously the only ammo you people have against me so you are going to use it tirelessly to no end. Nothing you say is ever going to change my opinion so whatever. I enjoy talking about him and defending him and I DID make a thread for him, but we don't need to talk about him...although this is going to be the summer of Bis you know:).

[Suno]

LOL, It's all good Quiestorm, I respect your opinion, I just dont like Canibis...

[Seanny One Ball]

Canibus battle raps better than anyone I've heard so far :\

One trick pony though.

[spanish announce table]

^ One trick pony? His subject matter, even more so now, is expanding

Mystikal is charismatic and probably has good lyrics (if I could understand them) I'm just not a fan of him. I'm not feeling most Souther rappers, except for Kast and the Dungeon Family, some Trick Daddy and Dead Prez. Guys like Lil Flip and 3-6 Mafia are boring to me. I know theres some three6 fans here, but this is just my opinion. (can you recommend some good rappers from the south?)

Just saw the Gangstarr/Kiss "right where you stand" video. It's cool, but the explosion at the end is kinda corny

[Kris P. Lettus]

Originally posted by spanish announce table
(can you recommend some good rappers from the south?)

-UGK
-Eightball & MJG
-David Banner:headbang:
-Haystack
-Ghetto Boys

[Suno]

UGK fucking own!

[spanish announce table]

I forgot to mention Scarface. Im not feeling David Banner's new single at all. I havent heard much of UGK

Nas got booed at Summer Jam? 50 brought out his son wearing a bulletproof vest? :rolleyes:

[EL-ASSO-WIPO]

Originally posted by Suno
AHAHAHAHAAH, what the fuck does canibis no about falling off? he was never 'on', sheesh.




HAHAHAHAHA. So fuckin true.

Quiet Storm is prolly Cannibus nephew or something. His love for him is frightening.

[Seanny One Ball]

Originally posted by EL-ASSO-WIPO
His love for him is frightening.


To be fair, I'm sure everyone that enjoys music has a particular artist that they'd defend through the depths of boredom and absurity.

QuietStorm likes Canibus and he defends him quite well most of the time, at least he's consistent :yes:

[Suno]

Originally posted by spanish announce table
I forgot to mention Scarface. Im not feeling David Banner's new single at all. I havent heard much of UGK

Nas got booed at Summer Jam? 50 brought out his son wearing a bulletproof vest? :rolleyes:

Nas got booed because he boycotted the last Summer Jam apparently.

How can you not like Banners new single, it's crunk!

[Suno]

Originally posted by spanish announce table
I havent heard much of UGK




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Top notch Ho's
Aint That a Bitch feat. Devin The Dude
Choppin Blades

Off the top......

[Kris P. Lettus]

Originally posted by Suno
Check Out these:

Pocket Full Of Stones
Diamonds and Wood
Wood Wheel
Top notch Ho's
Aint That a Bitch feat. Devin The Dude
Choppin Blades

Off the top......

Murder is their bestest song eva!!!1!!

[QuietStorm]

I am sure you have heard Big Pimpin. They were on that as well.

:rolleyes:

[Prince XL]

Judging people based on one guest appearance. Thats really insightful man!

[QuietStorm]

I have heard them on a lot more than that and I like them somewhat. I am just saying that I am sure he has heard them on that. I like UGK more than most Southern stuff.

Has anyone heard of Dirty from Alabama? Krispy probably has. I loved their first album. A lot of you have probably at least heard Hit Da Floe and Rollin Vogues off of that. Awesome songs. Their last album didn't really do much for me but there are a few good cuts on there. Check them out!

[spanish announce table]

Didnt Dirty get a higher mic rating than Mic Club? Did they ever make another video for the to-be-continued thriller that was "Hit Da Flo"?

I was listening to my Nature "For All Seasons" tape today. This guys is really underrated

[Suno]

Nas fucked em all over, mother fucker, you know who too fucking underrated and gets no where near enough props? CORMEGA!! I fucking love him, two immense albums, cant weight for his shit with Ayatollah to drop, sickness!!!

[spanish announce table]

Nature fucked up Nas on "Nas is Not". Corey is sick. Cant wait for 'Urban Legend'

[Suno]

Yeah, he pulled off the Jackin for beats concept immensly, he's hella nice, it would be nice if the whole original firm could actually make records together.

[Webbicho]

Originally posted by Suno
Nas got booed because he boycotted the last Summer Jam apparently.

How can you not like Banners new single, it's crunk!


Na he was cheered as he came out, but when he played ether he got a mixed reaction.

When he brought KRS out they all went psycho again. :yes:

Nelly got total boos.

[spanish announce table]

Just imagine if Cormega, Nature, AZ and Nas were still making records together. No one cares about the Bravehearts

[Suno]

Originally posted by spanish announce table
Just imagine if Cormega, Nature, AZ and Nas were still making records together. No one cares about the Bravehearts

I said that like two posts up, bravehearts fucking suck.

[spanish announce table]

Especially Jungle

[QuietStorm]

Another very underrated MC is Aesop Rock.

If there was a rapper I would recommend to someone who hates on all rap music to no end, it just might be him.

[Brennino]

Here is a shock.

"Oh My God" by Rakim got pushed back... again.

Boooooooring.

[Prince XL]

How many times is that now?

[Brennino]

More than enough.

[strange famous]

Originally posted by Brennino
Here is a shock.

"Oh My God" by Rakim got pushed back... again.

Boooooooring.

dre must really be screwing this up for it to be delayed this much.

sin six

sin six: this is going to suck

[jesus sucks]

What whas the fucking point of him even signing Rakim? It was just coming up 3 years ago and still no album.