Hip Hop Discussion/Album Review Thread.

[Kris P. Lettus]

Me.

http://forums.rajah.com/showpost.php?p=3550333&postcount=3331


They mentioned it on Adult Swim and that was the first I'd heard of it..

p.s.you know I don't actually read thread..

[Matthew]

Go back to whining about Hack in the Freestyle thread.I think you talking about whining in that thread, and not talking about yourself, is hilarious.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Cee-Lo and Danger Mouse?

:eek:

I think I just came in my boxer shorts, no really.

Can't get enough of this Healthy Distrust at the moment, am I the only fan of it?

[Kris P. Lettus]

I got DJ Nu Marks solo album..

Excellent as I expected..

[Stringer Bell]

That Dangermouse f/ Cee-Lo song is damn catchy... Talib and Ghost's guest spots are fantastic too.

[Seanny One Ball]

Aren't you the dude who said "The Mask" was a mediocre track anyway? Crazy talk..

Go back to whining about Hack in the Freestyle thread.


Mediocre is the best word for it.

Whining?

**winning

[McBain]

I got DJ Nu Marks solo album..

Excellent as I expected..

Finally, some acknowledgement of the man. :)

[QuietStorm]

I'm gonna be going to the Sage Francis/Sole/SoS Knowmore.org show in Detroit with approximately four guys and one female. It is gonna be the best time ever. October 11 is the date I think.


No, Jonno. You aren't the only one wearing out AHD. I like Sole's Live From Rome just as well though.

[Chris Scott]

Just got and listened to Canibus - Mind Control

Just what I expected from him nice hardcore beats, I like the album :yes:

[QuietStorm]

He made all those tunes four years ago. Only two tracks were "new" to our ears. It was fulfilling a contract and that is it. The album sucks. Even the cover is purposely atrocious. And the beats are weak, the whole lot of them.


Hip Hop For Sale, 2005.

[Kris P. Lettus]

Finally, some acknowledgement of the man. :)


I've been praising J5 in general for years..

:yes:

[jesus sucks]

i stay high all the time (I SMOKE THAT GOOD SHIT!) i'm highh all the tiime (AND I WANT SOME GOOD SHIT)

give me a duch and a lighter i'll spark shit NIGGA I'M HIGH ALL THE TIME!

get rich or die tryin' what a fuckin' classic lah. immense album. song after song of classic.

THEY WAS JUST HARRASIN ME COS THEY KNEW WHO I WUUUUUUZZZZ. :lol: that's such a tune and a good delivery of that line. one of the best albums ever.

[jesus sucks]

Everytime I ROLL up, niggas holla ROLL up, and I tell'em HOLD
up,
You ain't gettin money you ain't smoking
In my Benzo, 20 inch Lorenzos, smoking on indo
Hiiigh as a motherf**ker
I be on them backstreets, niggas know I clap heat, only if you
got beef
Man you better holla at me
Niggas get locked up, stabbed up, shot up
Everytime I pop up, a lot going on in my hood

:headbang: :hyper:

[jesus sucks]

I'm in the Benz on MONDAY, the BM on TUESDAY
Range on Wednesday, THURSDAY I'm in the hooptay
Porsche on FRIDAY, I do things my way!!
Vipe or Vette, I tear up the highway
Shorty she can tell ya about my dick gaaaaaaaame
But she don't know me, she only know my nicknaaaaaaame
Left the hood and came back, damn shit chaaaaaanged
These young boys, they done got they own work maaaaaaaaan

:hyper: :hyper: :headbang:

[jesus sucks]

I'm real bloody maaaaaan, the hood love me maaaaaan
Don't make me show up in ya crib like bro-maaaaan
Locked up in a pen, I still do my thing
C-O screaming SHUT THE FUCK UP IN THE PEN!!

I let my watch talk for me, my whip talk for me
My gat talk for me, BOW! What up homie!!
My watch saying hi shorty we can be friends
My whip saying quit playing bitch get in
My earring saying we can hit the mall together
Shorty its only right that we ball together
I'm into bigger things y'all niggaz y'all know my style
Ya wrist bling bling, my shit BLING BLOW!
My pinky ring talk it say fifty I'm sick
That's why these niggaz is on my dick
Some hate me, some love my hits
Flex my man he gon bump my shit
See I'm alive man I really don't care
I tell them hoes whatever they wanna hear
You try and play me I'ma blaze it in
My chromes cost more than the crib ya momma raaaised ya innnnnnnnnnnnn!

I was a poor NIGGAAA
Now I'm a rich NIGGAAAA
Getting paper now you can't tell me shit NIGGAAAA
You can find me in the fo' dot six NIGGAAA
In the backseat fondling ya bitch NIGGAAAAAA!!!!!!!

monster tune. poor lil rich.

[Stringer Bell]

Anyyyway..

Proof's album is dope. I'm really enjoying this. Searching For Jerry Garcia for anyone that doesn't know.. I'll probably drop the $13 on it here soon.

[jesus sucks]

you're telling me you like Proof!! but not 50 cent? :lol:

i'm black and from a big city so i'm allowed to enjoy gangsta rap it's meant for people like me. 50 cent is the man. you can't argue with those lines. every line is a classic.

check this one:

"maan these pussy niggas puttin money on my head,
go on get your refund motherfucker i ain't dead."

that is some hot shit right there. seriously. funny, and hardcore.

[Stringer Bell]

:wtf:

"Many Men" was a hot song, probably his best track ever, but..

50 Cent sucks. Stop.

Proof is a good MC.

[Stringer Bell]

Heavy Rotation of the moment.. 5 Albums only...

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002WU9.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000003BXN.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00018Y0QQ.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002JV7.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000003AB1.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[QuietStorm]

Swifty McVeigh is my favorite member of D-12, to be honest.

[jesus sucks]

that's not a bad idea to be fair lah. here's some i'm listening to now.
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000000HKE.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpghttp://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000003RRM.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002WU9.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpghttp://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B00008HATU.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000003ABQ.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg:bowdown: dat nigga daz.

[Stringer Bell]

Dope selections, minus that 50 :p

And I prefer Naughty's self-titled, but that's a damn good album too.

[jesus sucks]

i've got all the NBN, their first one's aged horribly to be honest, compared to other albums from 1991-time. still a very good cd though obviously because it's them and they were brilliant.

50 cent album is a classic. lyrics, flow, beats, front cover. i can't think of one bad thing about that cd except for an unfortunate incident when lloyd banks appears pn one of the songs, thankfully though it's just 1 song he ruins.

[TapOut]

His first CD isn't bad. I thought The Massacre was shit minus a couple of decent tracks, but Get Rich or Die Tryin' is great. This was a time when 50 was new on the scene, and he hadn't yet made a complete ass of himself. Great beats and decent lyrics.

[P Dandy]

check this one:

"maan these pussy niggas puttin money on my head,
go on get your refund motherfucker i ain't dead."

that is some hot shit right there. seriously. funny, and hardcore.

No doubt. That's the best line he's ever put out. However, there's no depth to him. I think he proved that with the Massacre sans Baltimore Love Thing.

[Kris P. Lettus]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0001E5SKW.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://www.kungfufilms.nl/images/Wu_Tang_Old.jpg

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000005AM9.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

http://homegrownmusic.net/images/primus4.jpg

http://www.alpolnet.home.pl/Bay/okladki/brothalynchhung3.jpg

[QuietStorm]

http://radiofuturamusic.com/pics/cd_P/PigeonJohn_isDating.jpg


http://images.windowsmedia.com/img/prov_i/300_80/bcf4eb28-3602-4ae3-a188-b4ce8dc23db4_101603-1400.jpg


http://radiofuturamusic.com/pics/cd_S/sole_SellingLiveWater.jpg



http://media.rapnewsdirect.com/CDCovers/Kurupt/Space_Boogie/t.300.default.jpg


....

[TapOut]

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000HZG9.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpghttp://media.rapnewsdirect.com/CDCovers/Outkast/Stankonia/t.300.default.jpg http://edge2.hotshed.com/images/157/157158_1_211.jpghttp://images-jp.amazon.com/images/P/B00006IK40.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg



these

[Stringer Bell]

Nice picks everyone :yes:

[Kris P. Lettus]

I feel awkward having Primus in the but it really hasn't left my cd player for the past month..

:dunno:

[TapOut]

I'll make no bones about it, I didn't like that Supreme Clientele, but I saw that Genius 'Liquid Swords' cover posted in here some time ago and decided I'd give it a shot. That album is fucking amazing. Dark and grimy as hell.

In fact, I downloaded it today, but I may go to Amazon and buy it. I never really listened to much of the Wu's pseudo-solo albums, but that one did it for me. I'll be checking out more.

[Kris P. Lettus]

Supreme Clientele is awesome.. It's the only Wu solo album that's better than it's first rotation predacesor...

[jesus sucks]

liquid swords is also amazing. nobody makes music like liquid swords now. so well put together and the rhymes are ridiculous.

[QuietStorm]

That Shade Sheist album was hot for a summer. Has he came out with anything since?

[TapOut]

I'm fairly certain he hasn't. Shame too, really.

[Stringer Bell]

Supreme Clientele is awesome.. It's the only Wu solo album that's better than it's first rotation predacesor...

Most definitely. Ironman is a great LP, but Supreme Clientele is a masterpiece. Tap, your boy Kanye West has admitted he bit a good part of his style from that album.

And Liquid Swords, definitely a classic. That, SC, and OB4CL are the top three Wu solo albums, with OB4CL being my favorite.

[Morrison]

Here's what's been playing in my ears lately:

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf400/f435/f43539j60hw.jpghttp://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf200/f240/f24016dvssa.jpg
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf500/f536/f53666qfmrt.jpghttp://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd700/d739/d7397588jtk.jpg
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd700/d739/d73939o65ht.jpghttp://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc500/c540/c54089w96iy.jpg

[TRO]

that's weird, I just listened to "The Album", "Blazing Arrow", and "Black Star" in that order... :wtf:

[Morrison]

Great minds think alike, I hear.

[Raw Is Jonathan]

http://www.ramonandpedro.com/largemov2.html

Sage Francis - Escape Artist video right there.

[Seanny One Ball]

http://www.lyrics.com/m/mobb.deep/murda.muzik.jpg

That's my shit

[Raw Is Jonathan]

All of you please educate me on what I should be listening to at the moment, and how to keep up to date with things. (i.e. what websites you go to) It's a well known fact that I love my hip hop music, but am completely ignorant to it, I do try though, you've got to give me that.

QS, you know what to do. (Though looked at what you're listening to lately and dunno if I'd be into that or not...) Enlighten me.

Some people I like:

Madvillainy, Sage Francis, Immortal Technique, Cee-Lo, Talib Kweli, Masta Ace, Wu-Tang, The Roots, Blackalicious, Atmosphere, Wordsworth, Royce 5'9", Zion I

[Seanny One Ball]

I bought the best of Das EFX while on holiday, give them a go Jon.

Good group.

[Stringer Bell]

Hell yeah, that album's tight. Lots of good tracks.. their last truly great album, but it still wasn't fuckin' with The Infamous or Hell on Earth. Those albums are classic. But after MM it was Infamy.. the fuck?! Some decent stuff but nothing compared to the first handful of albums.

[Seanny One Ball]

I only bump The Infamous, Hell on Earth, Murda Muzik and Americaz Nightmare anyway.

G.O.D part 3 is hotness

edit also MM has 3 of the best songs I've heard them a
do anyway - QS, Where Ya Heart At and Life is Mine - Nas rips it up.
Throw Your Hands on Americaz Nightmare is crazy too./
Kanye beats...:beer:

[Stringer Bell]

RIJ, try..

Gangstarr
Big Daddy Kane
Kool G Rap
J-Zone
Non Phixion
Jeru the Damaja (his first LP especially)
Pete Rock and CL Smooth
Black Moon
Brand Nubian
Little Brother

Some great old-school with a taste of the new shit..

No doubt Seanny.. hopefully the G-Unit venture will end up being somewhat worthwhile. I'm not impressed with "Outta Control", it's not the M-O-B-B I wanna hear :dunno:

"It's Mine", ahh that was my jam back then.. looking back it's kinda corny ripping off that Brandy/Monica joint haha, plus the Scarface rip.. it's a decent single though. And yeah, "Throw Your Hands" was dope.. "Win or Lose", "On The Run" (Havoc KILLS this song)..

Havoc's becoming more lyrical than Prodigy these days. Prodigy must be on too much yayo.

[Seanny One Ball]

Jon if you are going to look for a stand-out track by any of these artists just start with BDK - Aint No Half Steppin

jANK let me onto that one, good inspiration for rapping.

Buck - not happy about this G-Unit crack.

As far as I'm concerned Mobb Deep are trying to bury a legacy with this nonsense.

[DaRocTric]

BTW, Buck...Proofs CD is nice...My fav track is kurt kobain...my albums in rotation are:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005U2LB.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpghttp://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000005HSR.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0004NM2BI.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpghttp://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000023VR6.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00006JJ51.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

[Seanny One Ball]

I only bought Straight Outta Compton last week....

[Chris Scott]

I have still yet to buy Straight Outta Compton, I need to buy it this week hopefully.

[Chris Scott]

http://www.allhiphop.com/features/index.asp?ID=1152

Intresting stuff from The Game

[Stringer Bell]

Not big on The Game, but this quote is pretty much on point

"I like to pick and poke at the artists I think are wack in Hip-Hop, like Memphis Bleek. I like to smack around these weak MC’s. I think [The Young Gunz] are a joke. They sold even less than Memphis Bleek their first week. You can’t take those guys seriously – not when we’re talking Hip-Hop and the Nas’, the Big Daddy Kane’s, the Jay-Z’s, the ‘Pac’s, the Big’s, N.W.A.’s, and Run-DMC’s – and you got the f**kin’ Young Gunz dressin’ up like Jam Master Jay and Reverend Run on the album cover. That’s disrespectful. Then I listen to the music, and the s**t sounds like f**kin’ Sponge Bob [Squarepants’] mixtape."

[Chris Scott]

Call me stupid but who is he trying to get that is from New York?

[TapOut]

Buck.....

Thought you might find this interesting. http://music.ign.com/articles/641/641612p1.html

[Stringer Bell]

No doubt, thanks a lot. IGN is ridiculous with how much different content they cover..

[DaRocTric]

He is trying to sign Shyne...He used the line about "knowing about "Bars".

Anyone know about "THE TRIangle OFFense"? Its a supposed to be group consisting of Joe Budden, Fabolous and Stack Bundles. Sounds Interesting...

[Kris P. Lettus]

Not big on The Game, but this quote is pretty much on point

"I like to pick and poke at the artists I think are wack in Hip-Hop, like Memphis Bleek. I like to smack around these weak MC’s. I think [The Young Gunz] are a joke. They sold even less than Memphis Bleek their first week. You can’t take those guys seriously – not when we’re talking Hip-Hop and the Nas’, the Big Daddy Kane’s, the Jay-Z’s, the ‘Pac’s, the Big’s, N.W.A.’s, and Run-DMC’s – and you got the f**kin’ Young Gunz dressin’ up like Jam Master Jay and Reverend Run on the album cover. That’s disrespectful. Then I listen to the music, and the s**t sounds like f**kin’ Sponge Bob [Squarepants’] mixtape."

Well, to be fair, this is the same guy who said "Young Buck, like the first nigga from the south that's lyrical, you know, who uses lyrics.." on his DVD..

Yeah..

[Seanny One Ball]

Young Buck is a southern rapper we can all be proud of...

Nah, Game is speaking shit again. He's part of the problem more than anything.

[Kris P. Lettus]

He has'nt done shit to impress me.. "Dreams" is a good song but fuck sake, Memph Bleeks has a couple of good songs too..

Game just comes off as a whiney attention whore like "LOOK AT ME, I'M A RAPPER, WOOOOO!!1!"..

[Seanny One Ball]

He's blatantly trying to be a bigger better version of 50.

People are buying it too.

300 Bars was kinda cool but he didn't come out with anything lyrically that I thought "fuck me I'll remember that line for years"

[DaRocTric]

I Like Game but he is a bitch.

[Stringer Bell]

That was a dumb quote Krispy, but a lot of the shit The Game says is stupid. I just thought that quote in particular was pretty much dead on. I mean, Young Gunz dressing up as Run-DMC? Shit's pretty much disrespect.

Game's overhyped as hell as an MC, but he does seem to have a genuine love for hip-hop, I gotta give him that. I'll take some Game over Lil Wayne, Webbie, 50, and all that bullshit any day.

[Kris P. Lettus]

Lil Wayne can spit like a motherfucker..

[Stringer Bell]

Nah brah.

I can't hate on your hip-hop tastes too much, other than Three Six :p.. and I know you're big on southern shit.. but Lil Wayne is wack MC in my eyes. His subject matter is shit.. Game would handle him anyday. Plus I just can't take anyone from Cash Money too seriously.. Mannie Fresh's album was dope for some comedy/fun rap though.

Seanny, as for Game trying to be a bigger better version of 50.. he is bigger and better, but I don't see what makes them that similar other than their previous association. If they had never aligned, and Game came out only under Dre, I don't think people would make that comparison.

[QuietStorm]

The one Lil Wayne album I thoroughly enjoy is 500 Degreez. I couldn't really get into any of the other ones.


He has some good material on the Sqad Up mixtapes.

[Kris P. Lettus]

The Carter is good..

His oldskool mixtapes are f'n awesome..

Find the track of him ripping over that "Tweet" beat (ah,hey ah, ah, hey ahhhh)..

[TapOut]

I like Lil' Wayne. I think he's got a unique voice and I've seen far cornier rappers than him. I actually enjoyed Turk too. I thought 'Hallways and Cuts' and 'Wanna Be Down' were some great cuts. Never really got into the rest of Cash Money as a whole though.

As for Southern Rap, it's got a very distinct style and it's a total different type of rap. I'm not a big fan of today's "crunk" stuff, ala Lil' Jon, Mike Jones, David Banner, etc. (although there are certain songs by those artists I do enjoy), but the mid-late 90's southern producers like Master P, Trick Daddy, and 3-6 are just great. I really enjoy them. I guess you don't necessarily have to like them, but you have to admit they brought a lot to the table.

[DaRocTric]

Weezy F.Baby is crazy...Have you listened to 6 Minutes of Death...The guy was signed a 9...Anyway you wanna say it...NINE...He wasnt even a teenager...!!!

Anyway, Tony Yayos album is actually decent...

[jesus sucks]

wasn't 500 degreez juvenile?

because i've got that, it's fucking shit like, but i've got it.

[Matthew]

I love The Carter.

Anyway, any reviews on Late Registration yet? I have heard Gold Digger, and for some reason like it, eventhough my slight disdain for Jamie Foxx. Plus I love the beat on Diamonds, and the mentions of the Roc, something always gets me about that, guess it's just from being a Jay-Z fanboy.

[DaRocTric]

It supposedly has a Track with Nas and Jay-Z...

[Matthew]

I already know the tracklist is out somewhere...

[Kris P. Lettus]

wasn't 500 degreez juvenile?

because i've got that, it's fucking shit like, but i've got it.

Wayne put out a mixtape called 500 Degrees when Juvy left Cash Money.. Main track was Juvy diss song..

[jesus sucks]

ah right.

shows how much i listen to it that i don't even remember what it's called. bought it back in '98 when i was about 15. spent like £15.99 on imprort too, worst CD ever haha. waste of money. only listened to it about 3 times.

[TapOut]

Juvie's album was 400 degreez.

Only songs I cared for off of that album were 'Ha' and 'Back that Azz Up'.

[Kris P. Lettus]

He also had an album called 500 Degreez..

[TapOut]

Are you certain? I've never seen/heard of 500 Degreez other than Lil' Wayne's.

[jesus sucks]

Juvie's album was 400 degreez.

Only songs I cared for off of that album were 'Ha' and 'Back that Azz Up'.

i bought it for 'Ha', which was admittedly a top tune back in the day.

back that azz up was highly amusing when i was 15, and catchy. so i liked that song then. put i heard it the other month, and that shit is terrible. at least i have the excuse that i was 15 at the time.

the rest of the CD is fucking bollocks. not one good song, and juvenile is so coked up you can barely make out a word he's saying. badly mixed, badly produced. cash money were ok too for what they were, and mannie fresh is a decent producer. this was just one of their really crap albums.

[TapOut]

I remember XXL or Source magazine had an interview with him shortly after he split from Cash Money, and his grammar is just totally fucked up. If he's not a coke head, he's got me fooled.

[QuietStorm]

I thought it was actually Juvenile who put out that 600 Degreez mixtape with the Lil Wayne diss on it during the time he left Cash Money.


So yeah.... there is a 400, 500, and a 600 Degreez.

[TapOut]

There may be a 400, 500 and 600, but did Juve put out a 500? I don't believe he did.

[QuietStorm]

No. The reason Lil Wayne named his album that was because he was feuding with Juvenile at the time. So then Juvy did the 600 one.


I can't believe I am talking Cash Money politics....

[Stringer Bell]

Haha Quiet. You know you stay up on your CMM info.

I'm not digging this Tony Yayo at all. Can't honestly say I expected good things though.

[QuietStorm]

Well I'll be damned. Josh Martinez' Midriff Music is even better than Buck Up Princess was. PERFECT summertime music.

[Simon]

Fuck me, haven't heard the name Josh Martinez in a lonnnnng long time. Like, I found him on AUDIOGALAXY for Christ sake. He was cool.

[Seanny One Ball]

i bought it for 'Ha', which was admittedly a top tune back in the day.

back that azz up was highly amusing when i was 15, and catchy. so i liked that song then. put i heard it the other month, and that shit is terrible. at least i have the excuse that i was 15 at the time.

the rest of the CD is fucking bollocks. not one good song, and juvenile is so coked up you can barely make out a word he's saying. badly mixed, badly produced. cash money were ok too for what they were, and mannie fresh is a decent producer. this was just one of their really crap albums.


Hey :\

I still have that album and I like it if only to dig out 16 different versions of Ha in a short period of time.

[Stringer Bell]

I had 400 Degreez.. I thought it was actually one of the better Cash Money efforts, but that's not saying much at all. Mannie's wack as a producer I think.. there's only so many times you can use an 808 and the same damn synths. He's a funny ass MC though.. I got more than a few listens out of his last album :yes:

[Kris P. Lettus]

-Juvy put put out 400 Degrees and caught on
-Wayne put out 500 Degree mixtape with a Juvy diss song
-Juvy put out his on 500 Degrees (not on Cash Money) with a Wayne diss track

There you go..

[Kris P. Lettus]

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/3586/lilwayne20fa.jpg

werd

[Seanny One Ball]

Who don't you have a picture with?

[Kris P. Lettus]

You..

:naughty:

:(

[Seanny One Ball]

We'll take one someday Krispy, the day after jANK , Brennino and I take a picture with a pitcher and a big fuckin joint.

[DaRocTric]

Mannie officially left Cash Money

[jesus sucks]

I had 400 Degreez.. I thought it was actually one of the better Cash Money efforts, but that's not saying much at all. Mannie's wack as a producer I think.. there's only so many times you can use an 808 and the same damn synths. He's a funny ass MC though.. I got more than a few listens out of his last album :yes:

come off it for fuck's sake.

despite whatever random wiggers forum you visit says, there's no way mannie fresh has ever done an album as good as get rich or die tryin'. not saying that's a hiphop benchmark or anything, but it's just alot better than mannie fresh.

& yes i know 50 cent is mainsteam and i don't like his new stuff or mobb deeps new stuff, but 'get rich' is better than mannie fresh. no question. you called me on listing that album on my current top 5 playlist so i'm calling you on actually thinking Mannie Fresh makes good albums.

[Kris P. Lettus]

The Carter>Get Rich or Die Tryin

[jesus sucks]

i'm a big fan of the deep south as you know but no cash money records release is better than Get rich or die tryin'. for production, beats, flow, humor and just simply the general immenseness of it as you blaze it out of a car stereo.

[Kris P. Lettus]

*not a big Fiddy Sent fan*

[Seanny One Ball]

i'm a big fan of the deep south as you know but no cash money records release is better than Get rich or die tryin'.

I don't listen to much Southside rap, but come off it Tim.

[DaRocTric]

I agree, I love GRODT, but

Carter>>>>GRODT

[ANT]

Has anybody else heard the "Go Crazy" remix by Young Jeezy with Jay-Z? I'm not a big Jeezy fan but I think that song is :yes:

[.invurzion.]

Has anybody else heard the "Go Crazy" remix by Young Jeezy with Jay-Z? I'm not a big Jeezy fan but I think that song is :yes:

I didn't like it too much. I'm currently stuck on the Joe Budden Mixtape (Not Your Average Flow...) that I downloaded in June and finally got a chance to listen to.

Oh - and that Three 6 Mafia/Youngbuck/Eightball and MJG - "Stay Fly." Don't know why - but I just get crunk when I hear it.

[Stringer Bell]

come off it for fuck's sake.

despite whatever random wiggers forum you visit says, there's no way mannie fresh has ever done an album as good as get rich or die tryin'. not saying that's a hiphop benchmark or anything, but it's just alot better than mannie fresh.

& yes i know 50 cent is mainsteam and i don't like his new stuff or mobb deeps new stuff, but 'get rich' is better than mannie fresh. no question. you called me on listing that album on my current top 5 playlist so i'm calling you on actually thinking Mannie Fresh makes good albums.

What the fuck is with you?

I never said anything about Mannie being better than 50. I said Mannie's solo album was funny, and I got a few listens out of it. I didn't even mention 50 in that post. Stop putting words in my mouth. And what does Mobb Deep have to do with anything? Their last album was dope, much better than Get Rich..

"Go Crazy" is alright.. Jay kills it, but fuck Jeezy.. he's horrible.

"Stay High" is wack if you ask me, I expected better even from Three Six.. just real corny :dunno:

[DaRocTric]

As DMX said Young Cheesy

[QuietStorm]

As DMX said Young Cheesy
Hey, nobody cares.

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah, definitely. I just can't stand that guy. He and his wack ass Boys In The Hood crew, Webbie, Ray Cash... all just horrible if you ask me, more generic southern junk. What happened to the days of Geto Boys, Outkast, and Goodie Mob when the south was the most original and inventive coast of them all?

[QuietStorm]

I don't think I've ever heard Young Jeezy rap but I hate him because that is the most stupidly goofy name ever.

[Seanny One Ball]

And what does Mobb Deep have to do with anything? Their last album was dope, much better than Get Rich..



True, and now they're going to burn in hell with the rest of G-Unit.

[jesus sucks]

mobb deep's new cd is crap i reckon, so was Infamy with the exception of 5 or 6 songs. now that they're in G unit, that's just a bit gay i reckon.

[Stringer Bell]

...

If you've listened to Mobb Deep's newest CD, which you obviously haven't, you'd be saying otherwise. It wasn't The Infamous or Hell on Earth, but it was a damn good album, much better than Infamy.

I won't hate on their album with G-Unit until it's released. I don't think their style will change all too much.. same for M.O.P. Sure, some tracks with G-Unit members, but they'll retain their trademark sounds. That's why 50 picked them up, cause NY's been turning on 50. "Big Boy Game" by MOP f/ 50 wasn't bad, MOP hadn't lost their rawness at all. I'm not saying Mobb Deep on G-Unit's gonna be great, but don't knock it 'til you hear it. I think it'll be better than you expect.

[Seanny One Ball]

mobb deep's new cd is crap i reckon, so was Infamy with the exception of 5 or 6 songs. now that they're in G unit, that's just a bit gay i reckon.


Of course it's gay, but you can't be ragging on Americaz Nightmare.

Got It Twisted, Throw Your Hands, Dump, One Of Ours, We Up, Get Me...even the if the other tracks were kinda generic and expected filler they still knock the arse out of any 50 tracks lyrically.

I can't say too much about Infamy not having bought it, but I expect it's as bad as people say.

I will personally shoot 50 in the head if he ruins the Mobb though.

[DaRocTric]

Murda Ma$e signed with GUNIT also...hahaha Fiddy is funny...

[Seanny One Ball]

Who the fuck is that?

[Stringer Bell]

Mase is with G-Unit now? That's ridiculous. Bad for both parties.. I thought Mase wasn't cursing on records anymore? Can't wait to see how that turns out :D

Seanny.. "On The Run" off Amerika'z Nightmare is my SHIT.. Havoc murders it.

[DaRocTric]

Mase did a freestyle called Murda is back, on the Whisper beat. He curses throughout the whole thing. And he was at Anger Management in NY this week. Smiling and saying he is 50's newest G-unit addition.

[Stringer Bell]

Ridiculous.

[TapOut]

Mase is with G-Unit? Fuck...

I never really thought highly of Mase (though 'Cheat on You' and 'I Need To Be' were good tracks), I surely thought he's above G-Unit.

[Seanny One Ball]

Oh fuck off, it's not the real Mase is it?

That's bad shit man.

Ach well, when Puffy fucks you over then 50 can burn your career down all he likes :beer:

Buck - "They drink the drink to fade away the pain and get the courage to clap me"

[Stringer Bell]

Sorry to be nitpicky, but it's "Drink to 'drink away the pain'" in reference to "Drink Away The Pain", the classic Q-Tip assisted joint.

I've been bumpin' that original Cypress LP lately, the self-titled. It's a shame so many landmark groups like that have more or less fallen off now.. I mean their last joint was wack if you ask me. Self-titled is classic from side to side.

[Dan The Man]

I mean their last joint was wack if you ask me.

In all seriousness, not trying to start anything, just honest curiousity, blah blah blah... if someone actually were to ask you, would you say "It was wack"? Is 'wack' an actual component of your everyday speech?

[Stringer Bell]

Yes. If someone asked me what I thought of that last Cypress album, I would definitely call it wack. Run along now buddy :heart:

[Kris P. Lettus]

No, you don't..

[Seanny One Ball]

I see no problem with white people saying wack man, I say it sometimes :dunno:

Can't pick on the guy for everything
Language is spread universal nowadays, I thought that was accepted.

[Dan The Man]

Has nothing to do with being white. I was trying to figure out if he's the first person I've encountered who actually uses the term as part of everyday speech. I'm pretty sure he is, but not certain enough to bestow the title upon him. As I said, and meant, there was nothing behind the question but honest curiousity.

[Seanny One Ball]

You understand my concerns at first though.

It seemed like a lead on question.

Krispy's response is interesting...

[Tom Bombadil]

I say wack, not on it's own though it's normally like this "that's wiggty wack" :$

[Dan The Man]

You understand my concerns at first though.

It seemed like a lead on question.

Krispy's response is interesting...

Certainly. I understood the potential concern before I even posted, hence the way I began the initial post. I had hoped I would be taken on my word, though I agree that the "Buck Bashing" has reached such an absurd extent that it may only have been logical to assume that was my intent.

[Kris P. Lettus]

I never say "wack"..

"Whack" even..

[Kris P. Lettus]

busted, shit, sorry, janky, horrid, fucked-up, sorry as fuck, shitty, retarded, poo, terrible, bad, etc, etc, etc,

I say all those and more befroe I say "wack"..

[Kris P. Lettus]

But what I say in "real" life and what he says are two completely different things..

[Stringer Bell]

Cool.

[Kris P. Lettus]

word

[Seanny One Ball]

Wack yo

[jesus sucks]

top 5's niggas.

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Prodigy. HNIC in particular, classic. ridiculous album. i would give it 10/10 for beats and rapping lah. it's just a sick sick sick album. he's a sick man. he is great. classic from 2000 :bowdown:

[Stringer Bell]

Eh, I was hoping for much better with HNIC. It has some bangers, but it's a mediocre record overall in my eyes. Lately, Prodigy's fallen the fuck off.. sometimes he doesn't even rhyme! Havoc's been getting more lyrical than him, seriously. For shame.. they were once true heavyweights in the game.

That Kurupt album was hot back then. I remember it dropped right around Dre 2001, I had them both in rotation. That "Callin Out Names" diss to DMX and them was the shit.. I've always liked Kurupt even though he's not the greatest MC. Kuruption! was an underrated disc, and didn't need to be a double album, but the East Coast/West Coast theme served its purpose.

Of course that Deltron's crazy.. and that Mobb 2-disc mixtape was suprisingly decent. Lots of hot beats.

Anyway, apparently Kanye's leaked.. I'm sure some people here will be all over that. The track with Nas sounds great from what I heard :yes:

EDIT: Here's a Kanye link - http://files.filefront.com/chea/;4052903;;/fileinfo.html

[jesus sucks]

head nigga in charge. you can't argue with that album. :D it's great. beats and rapping and flow is 10/10. and it came out in 2000, he hadn't fallen off then. that was ages ago. at least you liked my other choices. Kurupt is a classic, and yes it came out the same day as dr dre 2001. very similar album, extremely good.

[Stringer Bell]

Yeah, Prodigy was still on point then, I just expected a better album. When you put out stuff like The Infamous and Hell on Earth, your fans start to expect nothing but greatness. Like I said, that album's got some bangers, I just wouldn't call it a 10/10 :dunno:

[Seanny One Ball]

I'm really liking Gangsta Gangsta, a Bitch is a Bitch and Fuck the Police right now.

Much better than this Game and 50 shit :beer:

[Stringer Bell]

Kanye's sounding pretty good. Not album of the year, but it's good.

[Inter Minan]

Yeah it doesn't sound too bad, the track with Brandy is pretty good.

Hey Mama is an old track though, i had that a year or so ago.

[Stringer Bell]

I'm stuck on that "We Major" with Nas.. nuts!

Yeah, "Hey Mama" was leaked awhile ago.. he re-worked it a bit though. Sounds much more mastered.

"Drive Slow" would be so much better without Paul Wall.. can't stand that clown.

[jesus sucks]

Yeah, Prodigy was still on point then, I just expected a better album. When you put out stuff like The Infamous and Hell on Earth, your fans start to expect nothing but greatness. Like I said, that album's got some bangers, I just wouldn't call it a 10/10 :dunno:

gonna be controversial here and say HNIC is better than Hell on Earth. don't get me wrong, hell on earth was amazing. very dark and full of monster tunes. i just like HNIC better. it's deeper and the beats are as good or slightly better. you don't hear havoc or prodigy rhyming as reflective or emotional on hell on earth as prodigy does on HNIC. plus there's a track on HNIC... 'Three' feuturing Cormega and he just tears it up as usual.

[Stringer Bell]

And sorry but I think you're trying to be controversial for the sake of being controversial. Hell on Earth shits on that solo LP, I think anyone can tell you that.

[Matthew]

Buck, any word on the new Kanye? Any torrents or anything?

[QuietStorm]

H.N.I.C is a classic, dammit.

[Stringer Bell]

Matthew.. the link I posted didn't work?

[Matthew]

Seems like there is nothing in that file

[jesus sucks]

if you listen to Hell on Earth just after The Infamous, it just doesn't sound as good. great album obviously, but not THAT good like.

H.N.I.C offers a totally different listen to the Infamous. It's got more variety than Hell on Earth. Even the infamous had songs like up north trip which added some variety to the album, hell on earth doesn't have a song like that.

Not "everyone" would agree with you, trust me.

[Stringer Bell]

Nah, Hell on Earth isn't as good as The Infamous. But it's on some other shit compared to HNIC. That was Mobb at their grimiest. I'm not saying Prodigy's solo was bad, it's just not all your making it out to be I think. It has been awhile since I've listened to it though.

[jesus sucks]

thing is, i like an album to have lots of variety. Hell on earth has fuck all variety of songs imo, i'd say it's one of the best rap albums that are pretty much the same all the way through.

[Stringer Bell]

Lots of variety isn't always good. When it sounds like it's all over the place and the album has no flow, it can really hurt it. With Mobb they created a dark, grimey sound with that album and anything else would've sounded out of place, that's the thing. I'm not using HNIC as an example of that though..

[jesus sucks]

i mean lyrics more than beats. lyrically there's no variety on hell on earth.

i dunno, take 36 chambers. that had no problems with flow, but they threw Can it all be so Simple and Tearz in there. songs that weren't about how great the wu tang clan are etc, but actually had lots of thought and meaning. and there you have the variety.

hell on earth has nothing like that. the infamous does, HNIC does, hell on earth don't.

[CollegeGraduate]

Mase Newest member of G unit?

[Simon]

Contrary to stuff I've said in the past, there is actually a good British rapper...this guy Kano just keeps coming with great stuff, very accessible stuff and easy to get into, but it's good stuff...nice beats, good content whether he's going for funny or serious...good stuff. New single Nite Nite has a Kanye-style beat courteousy of Mike Skinner and it's really quite good. Going to get the album sometime tomorrow, will let people know what it's saying.

[QuietStorm]

I like Jehst and Lewis Parker.

[Simon]

Jehst is only ok. He doesn't stand out at all. I vaguely remember Lewis Parker from a while back, but again didn't stand out at all. The only thing that stood out about Jehst was that his CD's case was made of cardboard instead of plastic and when I borrowed it off my mate I ruined it and he got angry

[Kris P. Lettus]

MOP are the most uderrated Hip Hop act of all time..

People, that is all..

[Dan The Man]

Kanye's sounding pretty good. Not album of the year, but it's good.

Yer, I'd agree with that. Be lying if I didn't say I was disappointed though.

And I'd agree with the general sentiment that a different guest on "Drive Slow" could have yielded a better track. For whatever reason, it seems like the kind of song Common would excel on.

I'm glad a couple of his great relatively unreleased verses showed up. Namely "18 Years" in "Gold Digger," and "Wack Niggas" in "Bring Me Down."

[TapOut]

Just downloaded it.

Loved the album as a whole, decent sophomore album, but I think College Dropout was better. That's not taking away from this album though.

Feels like he took the basic concept of his first few hit singles and tried to copy them over to this album. You can draw parrallels between Jesus Walks/Diamonds (both semi-autobiographical) and Slow Jamz/Gold Digger, except Dropout's were both better.

[QuietStorm]

"Wack Niggas" was the only good track on Consequence's album. Common's verse didn't suck like most of his tend to do.


"Bring Me Down" would have been the perfect track for Canibus to feature on. :happysad:

[P Dandy]

Mase Newest member of G unit?

Don't think so. I doubt Mase is that much of a hypocrite.

[CollegeGraduate]

Don't think so. I doubt Mase is that much of a hypocrite.


No, but mase needs money. He would join Deathrow if the price was right.


Imagine, " Welcome Back, Welcome backkkk, Wellll....GgggUUUUUNIT!" :wtf:

[.invurzion.]

This whole free agent signing thing that G-Unit is doing is garbage. I didn't like Ma$e when he was in Bad Boy ... and I DAMN sure could care less about his ass now that he is with G-Unit.

When they signed Mobb Deep, I was pissed. Then I heard about M.O.P. and almost shit myself! Yet another decent hip hop act down the fucking shitter...

[CollegeGraduate]

This whole free agent signing thing that G-Unit is doing is garbage. I didn't like Ma$e when he was in Bad Boy ... and I DAMN sure could care less about his ass now that he is with G-Unit.

When they signed Mobb Deep, I was pissed. Then I heard about M.O.P. and almost shit myself! Yet another decent hip hop act down the fucking shitter...


Would you rather have MOP signing with deathrow or some other shit filled label? They chose Gunit because lets face it, they sell records. Interscope, aftermath, shady, gunit, whatever.. They sell. Simple as that.


Oh and a bit off topic, I am NOT feeling Kanye's new albuum whatsoever. Im giving it a chance though, but man do I feel let down.

[TapOut]

Would you rather have MOP signing with deathrow or some other shit filled label? They chose Gunit because lets face it, they sell records. Interscope, aftermath, shady, gunit, whatever.. They sell. Simple as that.


Oh and a bit off topic, I am NOT feeling Kanye's new albuum whatsoever. Im giving it a chance though, but man do I feel let down.

I can see how someone could be letdown. I'm not, but I can see it.

Like I said, feels like a carbon copy of College....

It mimicks it, but it's not as good as the original. Some of the shit is annoying. Where's John Legend? You have fuckin' Paul Wall on there but not your one and only protege?

[Suno]

Jehst is only ok. He doesn't stand out at all. I vaguely remember Lewis Parker from a while back, but again didn't stand out at all. The only thing that stood out about Jehst was that his CD's case was made of cardboard instead of plastic and when I borrowed it off my mate I ruined it and he got angry

Shut up acting life you know shit fool! :p

Jhest is sick, listen to high plains drifter and tell me otherwise you need a slap!

Lewes Parker is nice, feeling him more on a production tip mind, but when it comes to production harry love a run tings in the UK!

Skinnyman album was nice too, phi life cypher are fucking legends, millenium metaphores is timeless, klashnekoff is grimey, braintax got some nice shit, still listen to his biro funk LP, Yungun is NIIICE, love his shit, always feeling chester p and farma g aka Taskforce.....

Man, uk got nuff quality hiphop acts, totally being overshadowed by the grime fad.

[Kris P. Lettus]

Where the fuck have you been??

[Suno]

Where the fuck have you been??

re-hab :( ;)

[spanish announce table]

Reviews of stuff I've bought recently

Mathematics - The Problem
Not feeling most of the new guys, but "C what I C" and "Can I Rise" are dope. All clansmen do good jobs, with ODB stealing the show on "Break That". These are not Math's best beats (his best stuff is on Beneath the Surface & Bullet Proof Wallets), and there are no real standout beats, but its a consistant album. 7.5/10

Black Market Militia
Killah Priest, Tragedy and Hell Razah in the same group? Fuck yeah. Plus Timbo King and William Cooper are good additions. Most of the tracks are on some "join the movement/fight the power" type vibe, which is a good change of pace from the stuff coming out these days. The production is dope from top to bottom, but Ron Browz steals the show with "Paint Brush". 8.5/10

Common - Be
Not the classic everyone is making it out to be, but still a very good album. The intro is nearly flawless, showing Kanye is much better for Com than ?uestlove was. The only track I wasn't really feeling was "Testify". The lyrics are good, but the way Kanye flipped the sample makes it hard to hear the verses. Frontrunner for album of the year. 9/10

Afu Ra - State of the Arts
Afu went with the Reggae vibe for this album, and it works really well on a lot of tracks (Livin Like Dat, Why Cry, Cry Baby), but it gets played out towards the end of the album. Other standout tracks are Ghetto Hell, Dynamite, Sucka Free (with Premo), Pusha (with Royce da 5' 9") and Poisonous Taoist. 7.5/10

GZA - Beneath the Surface
I'm mad late on this, but it's pretty hard to find around here. I really dont understand how some people call this his worst album, when the beats are almost as good as those on Supreme Clientele, and his lyrics are just as good (in some cases better) as those on Liquid Swords. If he cut the skits out, and had a few more RZA beats, I dont think anyone would be complaining. Best tracks are 1112 (fucking awesome), Beneath the Surface, Publicity and Hip Hop Fury. 9/10

[Deathcow]

I'm not into rap much, but I have a few albums and I like all of them...I have:

Ice Cube - The Predator
Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
Nas - Stillmatic
Nas - Street's Diciple
Kanye West - College Dropout

I think they're all sweet, too.

[jesus sucks]

i've got beneath the surface, i used to like that back in 99. and i've still got the cassete promo they sent me a few months before the cd came out. it's great.

[jesus sucks]

I'm not into rap much, but I have a few albums and I like all of them...I have:

Ice Cube - The Predator
Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
Nas - Stillmatic
Nas - Street's Diciple
Kanye West - College Dropout

I think they're all sweet, too.

all brilliant except street's discipe. really not feeling that cd at all. not one song i like on either disc.

[Stringer Bell]

You don't like Street's Disciple, yet you claim Get Rich or Die Trying is a great album? That says it all right there, done deal.

"A Message to the Feds", "Nazareth Savage", "These are Our Heroes", "Sekou Story", "Street's Disciple", "UBR", "Virgo", "War", "Theif's Theme", "Bridging The Gap"... all excellent tracks. I don't see how you couldn't like that album, seriously. It's his best work since Illmatic bar none, no commercial BS.

[Deathcow]

:heart: Just A Moment

[jesus sucks]

You don't like Street's Disciple, yet you claim Get Rich or Die Trying is a great album? That says it all right there, done deal.

"A Message to the Feds", "Nazareth Savage", "These are Our Heroes", "Sekou Story", "Street's Disciple", "UBR", "Virgo", "War", "Theif's Theme", "Bridging The Gap"... all excellent tracks. I don't see how you couldn't like that album, seriously. It's his best work since Illmatic bar none, no commercial BS.

but at the same time i can say only built 4 cuban linx is probably my favourite album of all time, like you. so no deal is sealed at all. i just have a different opinion on Nas than you. there's more mainstream acts i like better than nas, and there's more hardcore rap i like better than nas.

i think with the exception of 2 of his CD's he's extremely overrated. i didn't even like it was written that much at the time when all the magazines and tv shows were raving about it. 'black girl lost' is a good song off that though. one of his best.

streets's disciple is shit i reckon, there's a lad called raw is jonathan who's into all that backpacker and non commercial rap, and he agreed with me that there's not one good song on street's disciple. amazing really considering it's a 2 disc set. i almost cried when i got home with it and realised i'd wasted £9.99 i could have spent on beer.

get rich or die tryin' is a classic. just what the fuck have you got against that album so strongly? because some wigger on a forum said "that is wack yo"? it's good music for a car and each beat is an absolute monster and the lyrics are delivered well and funny, and lots of good one liners. especially in the first 3 songs.

[Stringer Bell]

Wait, wait..

Now Get Rich or Die Tryin is a classic and Nas is extremely overrated? :rofl: You get better everytime.

[jesus sucks]

you're a certified idiot. and a bad wigger. don't bother replying.

[Stringer Bell]

Ahaha. "A bad wigger".

You sir, are the certified idiot. 50 Cent > Nas? :rofl: :rofl:

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Why has it always got to come down to performer a is better than performer b? JS isn't necessarily saying that 50 Cent is better than Nas, more that he currently prefers his album to anything that Nas has put out. Therefore, he enjoys 50 Cent's album more than Nas'... :eek: Now let's start comparing the two and arguing about nothing, yeah that sounds like a good time...

I can agree with the statement about Streets Disciple, listened to it about 3 times, and that was 3 times too many. Shit in my opinion. Never listened to 50 Cent's album, nor does it interest me in the slightest. But that Nas album is pitiful. Put me off him to be honest. Used to be a big fan, obviously Illmatic is a classic, Stillmatic was good and It Was Written was always a nice album, but I don't listen to him at all these days. Nas doesn't even get a sniff on my iPod...

Another person I seem to be going off lately is Royce... listened to his new album a couple of times but nothing's jumped out at me.

Need more music like Cee-Lo's soul Machine for listening to at work, any suggestions? Just some smooth hip-hop that isn't too commercial sounding, but a nice little almost soulful sound with a message. Like Immortal Techniques one about the bird with AIDS and as far as Hi-Tek's Round & Round, you follow?

Where's the best place to get music for iTunes so that I've got some good shit on my iPod?

[Stringer Bell]

If you think Street's Disciple was a bad album, I'd hate to end up with whatever hearing condition God has brought upon you. Even if you don't think it's an amazing album, how can you not acknowledge all of those hot tracks?

Jonathan, check out all of Madlib's catalogue for some smoothed out production. Easily one of the best producers in rap right now if you ask me. His stuff with MF Doom is a great place to start, Madvillain. Not really any messages, but quality hip-hop. I assume you've heard Talib's Beautiful Struggle, that's on some sick political shit. Saigon drops some knowledge every now and then too for a newer cat.

I'm honestly shocked that you're asking for stuff with a "message" and "soulful sounds" in the same post you're trashing Street's Disciple. Have you honestly listened to that album thoroughly? It's chock full of both, done with the usual Nas sickness.

And the iTunes question... :wtf: I thought you download stuff right off of iTunes? If you just need some decent P2P client, Limewire is one of the better free ones these days. But if you know what you're doing, IRC is easily the best method for downloading music, or any warez for that matter.

[jesus sucks]

Ahaha. "A bad wigger".

You sir, are the certified idiot. 50 Cent > Nas? :rofl: :rofl:

i never said 50 cent was a better rapper than Nas though, did i, you cocksucker. i said i like one 50 cent album, and i like 2 nas albums. i meantioned nothing of what i think of each individual as a rapper.

Wigger.

[Stringer Bell]

How creative!

[jesus sucks]

yes but you are a wigger. that can't be denied. *points and laughs at wigger*

[Jonny D]

50 cent > Nas.

I'm black.

[jesus sucks]

i'm black too. i like gangsta rap i love Illmatic and Stillmatic too, but i love gangsta rap just as much. wiggers can never understand that, real life or online :D

[TapOut]

i'm black too. i like gangsta rap i love Illmatic and Stillmatic too, but i love gangsta rap just as much. wiggers can never understand that, real life or online :D

Beyond the blatant arrogance (nothing wrong with that), there's some truth to what you speak. I enjoy pretty much all of Nas' work, but I'm not going to lie: I loved Get Rich or Die Tryin'. I don't necessarily like where 50 is now, what he's done to his career and how he's become pretty a much a joke (and the fact that I only enjoyed about 3 tracks off of The Massacre), but Get Rich... was a hot album.

I like deep lyrics and messages, but as I've said, sometimes, you just have to say screw it once in a while and judge for yourself if you like what's coming out of your speakers. I put 50's album on, and it was good shit. I can listen to it straight through. It's got some nice lyrics and rhymes, great beats, and even a few decent RnB/Rap tracks. Anyone can say what they want, but that album is a classic.

[jesus sucks]

good post.

as i've said, wiggers and 'heads etc can say what they want. but the fact of the matter is that get rich' is a hot as fuck album. go out anytime of the year in a car and throw that CD on and that is the one right there. every single song is a monster, and another thing every single line is quoteable. it's blatently a great album for lots of different reasons.

[Stringer Bell]

Tap, lyrics don't have to be deep and have messages to be good. Someone like Nas is a straight up lyricist, 50 Cent doesn't have a single song that showcases good lyrics. "How To Rob" was original and probably his best lyrically, but Get Rich is fucking horrible rhyme-wise. What was that one hysterical line.. "I'm a squirrel lookin' for a cute slut with a butt to get a nut" or some shit. Sick wit' it, son!

Anyway, jesus.. every single line is quotable? That's seriously some of the funniest shit I've ever read on the internet. I'll be laughing about that one for awhile.

It has nothing to do with me being white. You can play that race card all you want, only makes you look more ignorant.

By the way.. I love gangsta rap. From the originators like NWA, Ice T, and Schoolly D to the new age acts like Raekwon/Ghost, Kool G, Mobb Deep, etc. The difference between those acts and 50 is that they're all dope MC's and put out quality, ground-breaking rap. Oh yeah, Illmatic is more or less gangster rap.. so I'm missing your point there.

Why am I even arguing with someone who honestly thinks 50 Cent's a good MC? I'll let you get your last word in, pal :)

[TapOut]

Me personally, I don't consider 50 an MC. I don't consider him a great lyricist. I just loved his first album. I thought it was well rounded, I thought the production and polish was fantastic, and I thought it was a great way for him to introduce himself to us. He's pretty much went down hill after that, but that isn't going to take away from that album.

Thing about me is, I'm going to listen to an album without any pre-concieved notions going through my mind. I'm going to listen to an album neutrally and make my judgement afterwards. Problem with rap today is everyone tries to stick to one type of rap and say that anything else is garbage. East/West coast shit was bad enough in the mid 90's, but now there's all this stuff going around where people want to debate why such and such is/isn't good, etc. I just listen to the music and if I like it, I like it.

[Stringer Bell]

Problem with rap today is everyone tries to stick to one type of rap and say that anything else is garbage.

I don't understand what you mean, cause you're obviously talking about me. I like NY/east coast rap, southern shit, that west coast funk, underground hip-hop, abstract rap, everything. The only 'type of rap' that I stick to is quality rap ;)

[Kris P. Lettus]

i'm black too. i like gangsta rap i love Illmatic and Stillmatic too, but i love gangsta rap just as much. wiggers can never understand that, real life or online :D


I hate BuckMarley and most of what he says but come on..

I'm white and I've seen more hardcore shit than you'll ever see, gangsta..

[Seanny One Ball]

Wigger.


ahahahaha

[TapOut]

I don't understand what you mean, cause you're obviously talking about me. I like NY/east coast rap, southern shit, that west coast funk, underground hip-hop, abstract rap, everything. The only 'type of rap' that I stick to is quality rap ;)
That wasn't directed at you.

It's a general consensus that I've seemed to notice among many people, among my friends, people at work, and on the forums here. If you took exception to that, then maybe it's guilt speaking? ;)

Honestly, none of that post was directed at you.

For instance, when I travled with my job a lot in 2003 and early last year, I had a buddy on the road who only listened to Jay-Z, Biggie, and a few other east coast rappers. Anything else he deemed "soft shit", anytime you'd recommend something, he'd say 'nah, I hate that shit''. And there's an alarming number of people like him, who seem to be stuck to one type of music and label everything else. It's almost as if they're depriving themselves of enjoying other types of music just to get some twisted type of image across. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with only enjoying a certain style, type or artist, but you have to learn why other people may enjoy something or someone else more.

[Deka]

I'm a big 50 fan and G-Unit in general. Anything with 50, Llyod Banks, or Young Buck on it, I tend to like. The only stuff 50 has put out that I haven't cared for was "21 Questions" and "Candy Shop". But, that's just because I don't like the Rap/R&B combinations, with the exception of a few.

I agree, Get Rich or Die Tryin' was a hot album. I just listened to it a few days ago. I wouldn't bump it in my car anymore, but for listening to at home it's still a great album. I haven't heard all of The Massacre tracks. All of the singles, other than "Candy Shop" were straight to me. I'm not very judgmental on lyrics or anything. As long as the track has a nice beat and the dude is flowing well with the instrumental, then I'm on it. And 50 has been able to come through on that aspect with this second album. At least with all his current singles. That "Outta Control" song with Mobb Deep is one of my favorite songs right now.

I really don't blame 50 for doing what he did, going mainstream and a little bubble gum with his rhymes. I mean, he's doing what he has to do to win over the pop crowd. He's making music that everybody can bump to and, more importantly, that everybody can understand. We all know he could get real complex with his lyrics (listen to some of his old stuff), but instead, he's dumbed his lyrics down to a type of sing-along level that even the most corny, unhip person could sing right along with the words to his songs.

The guy gets hated on alot, but he's just doing what makes money. Making smart business moves. That's what the rap game is...a business.

Anyway, like I said, I'm not big on lyrics, every now and again my ears might capture some real sick lyrics and it's always satisfying to hear. But, I'm more of just a type of music fan that listens for a good rhythmic vibe. And, like I said, 50 never fails to come with that (mainly due to Dr. Dre's hot beats).

By the way, I heard something on MTV about Mase signing with G-Unit. Anybody know about any truth to this?

[Deathcow]

You really hate white people, don't you?

[Deka]

No. Just responding to all the "downhill" talk of 50's career or whatever. I was trying to give some sort of explanation as to why and that's why I think "it" happened. Because, let's face it, suburbanites tend to attach themselves to pop. Whatever is hot at the moment. And 50 is doing what he can to stay in that category and doing a good job of it.

That's all.

Not trying to sound racist. I'm sorry if it came off like that.

[Deathcow]

:beer:

[Deka]

Damn.

Going back over that post, I could see where you're coming from. I'll edit it.

I was sounding like a real ass there..sorry.

[jesus sucks]

I hate BuckMarley and most of what he says but come on..

I'm white and I've seen more hardcore shit than you'll ever see, gangsta..

explain. and no offense but you don't know me well enough to say what i've seen, haven't seen and will see. have you been to Liverpool? do you know what repuatation and some of the things that can go on here? no you don't.

also, i don't consider you a wigger. you are just a white guy who listens to alot of rap, buckmarley is a wigger. he looks acts and talks like one.

[Deathcow]

But Krispy got shot.

[QuietStorm]

By a dude who was certainly not caucasian.

[CollegeGraduate]

Why has it always got to come down to performer a is better than performer b? JS isn't necessarily saying that 50 Cent is better than Nas, more that he currently prefers his album to anything that Nas has put out. Therefore, he enjoys 50 Cent's album more than Nas'... :eek: Now let's start comparing the two and arguing about nothing, yeah that sounds like a good time...

I can agree with the statement about Streets Disciple, listened to it about 3 times, and that was 3 times too many. Shit in my opinion. Never listened to 50 Cent's album, nor does it interest me in the slightest. But that Nas album is pitiful. Put me off him to be honest. Used to be a big fan, obviously Illmatic is a classic, Stillmatic was good and It Was Written was always a nice album, but I don't listen to him at all these days. Nas doesn't even get a sniff on my iPod...

Another person I seem to be going off lately is Royce... listened to his new album a couple of times but nothing's jumped out at me.

Need more music like Cee-Lo's soul Machine for listening to at work, any suggestions? Just some smooth hip-hop that isn't too commercial sounding, but a nice little almost soulful sound with a message. Like Immortal Techniques one about the bird with AIDS and as far as Hi-Tek's Round & Round, you follow?

Where's the best place to get music for iTunes so that I've got some good shit on my iPod?


I agree with you and Jesus sucks, Streets Disciple was utter garbage. I hated it and I gave it away to my brother who loved it. My brother, he is kind of on the retarded side, so I could see why he would enjoy it. Even Nastradumus was better than Streets Disciple. Go home with that shit Nas. Hope Nas aint gonna fall off now that kelis is all up on his thoughts. I want sad, depressed nas back, who hates bitches. This new nas aint cutting it for me. Someone kill Kelis.

[Stringer Bell]

Nastradamus is better than Street's Disciple? Holy fucking shit.. you officially have the worst taste in rap music.


jesus, go on with that played out wigger shit. Your posts aren't even worth a response from this point. I look like a wigger how exactly? You're hilarious. By the way, I really doubt a black person would be using that dumbass term so freely, since it so closely resembles a racist term. Stop trying to be the gangster of the Rajah message board and go listen to 50 Cent, pal.

[jesus sucks]

he's been shot, i've been stabbed. hang on actually i've been shot too, in my spine and then again in the back of the head. just with a pellet rifle and not a real gun though, stung like a bastard.

[Simon]

Chalk up another one for not really liking Street's Disciple, and I'm a huge Nas fan. Worst album he's dropped since Nastradamus, but I'm not having that it's as bad as that, not by a long shot. Not a good album though, really. I quite liked it in the first couple of days I had it, but after a few listens you realise it's basically crap. In that respect, I'd definitely say GRODT is better. The lyrics are mostly shite, but the beats are mostly good and Many Men is an absolute beast of a song, better than anything on Street's Disciple by a mile.

Ever since that album, everything by anyone associated with G-Unit has been waste though.

[Kris P. Lettus]

explain. and no offense but you don't know me well enough to say what i've seen, haven't seen and will see. have you been to Liverpool? do you know what repuatation and some of the things that can go on here? no you don't.

also, i don't consider you a wigger. you are just a white guy who listens to alot of rap, buckmarley is a wigger. he looks acts and talks like one.

How many times have you had a gun pulled on you??

Or shot at you??

Not talking about air rifles either..

You're my boy and all but don't come around me and act like you're harder than all white folks just because you're half black.. Come to my block and you'd get cold fucked up.. Bullets don't see race.. And you (being from England) don't see bullets..

:\

[Simon]

And you (being from England) don't see bullets..

:\What the. Don't know exactly what it's like in Liverpool, but in London gun crime is a massive problem. Same in most major cities, Nottingham is the worst I think.

But yeah, don't talk bollocks, please. It's not a contest, for one thing, and it's ignorance to say that England doesn't have gun crime. Christ.

[Seanny One Ball]

England and Scotland have a surprising amount of gun crime.

I know a couple of people with guns...
Only a couple are licensed.
Most are dodgy.

[Kris P. Lettus]

What the. Don't know exactly what it's like in Liverpool, but in London gun crime is a massive problem. Same in most major cities, Nottingham is the worst I think.

But yeah, don't talk bollocks, please. It's not a contest, for one thing, and it's ignorance to say that England doesn't have gun crime. Christ.

Fair enough..

But the simple fact that they are not readily availible like they are here leads me to believe there are not near as many there as there are here...

:dunno:

[Seanny One Ball]

Your country is a lot larger than Britain.

In Britain the gun crime is probably second to America, but at the same time they both need sorting out. Only difference is that britain enforces gun laws, but ends up with nutters taking pot shots the moment they think it's safe.

[jesus sucks]

what seanny and simon said, basically.

i for a fact i'm more streetwise and harder the buckmarley. let's not get too politcal about all this krispy. you know what i meant, and if i offended you then honestly i didn't mean too. i didn't say all white people were wiggers ffs.

fact is buckmarley is a suburban wigger, he's like 16 or 17 years old and as a 22 year old black bloke form one of the roughest areas in the UK and has been listening to rap since Buckmarley was about 3 or 4 years old i feel entitles to claim i shouldn't be taking hiphop advice from this him.

[Stringer Bell]

Hahaha. You're too cool.

Really, stop talking about shit you don't know the first thing about.

Anyone who has to debate his 'hardness' on the internet, on a wrestling forum.. obviously isn't that fucking hard. You're a clown, and you're not much older than me so you can quit with that dumb shit. You still haven't explained how I'm a wigger :rolleyes: Cause I'm a white kid that listens to hip-hop?

The funniest thing is, you're probably not even black. Desperate for the internet credibility.. "oh I'm so hard! I'm streetwise!".. :rofl:

[Simon]

He's black.

And this stops here, everyone can shut up now. Thanks.

[Stringer Bell]

I have a hard time believing that, but if you say so :yes:

Saigon has been killing shit in my CD player lately. He's got so many quality tracks.. the mainstream better watch out for this cat's album.

Favorite tracks off that Kanye - "Heard em Say", "My Way Home", "Addiction", "We Major", "Gone". Good album. Even better beats than last time, just great production (I'm sorry, but there's only so many times you can hear those sped-up samples), but the lyrics aren't as good as on College Dropout.

[Seanny One Ball]

He is black, nothing hard to believe there.

Give Buck a break too people, he's alright.

[QuietStorm]

He is black, nothing hard to believe there.

Give Buck a break too people, he's alright.
Yeah he is a decent guy, but Street's Disciple is kinda wank. I can imagine why he would like it though.... isn't there a track called "Coon's Picnic"?

[Simon]

I have a hard time believing that, but if you say so :yes:
Why would you have a hard time believing it?

[Stringer Bell]

You told us to drop the race shit...

I honestly don't know how anyone could dislike Street's Disciple though, this is the first I've seen so much shit-talking about it. It's the best double-disc rap albums since Life Atfer Death.. so many mammoth tracks that I've already been over. "Nazareth Savage" is better than any track on 50's album, and how can you tell me otherwise? Nas is at his lyrical best all over the album. No commercial junk, just raw, hardcore hip-hop. Hell, "Thief's Theme" was one of the hardest rap singles in years.. more "gangsta" than anything 50 did.

[Fro]

Sittin up drunk, shufflin thoughts
Got paper but I'm lost
Losin focus what a nigga still hustlin for
My seed is straight, the fam is settled
Idle time get the man in trouble
When wifey tourin, my life get boring
Start to remember all types of torment
The devil's callin, but I don't answer
Mom passed from cancer, leavin behind
two granddaughters, two grandsons, two 9's...

Street's Disciple = One of the best albums from last year, and far better than any thing 50 Cent has ever done. Thief's Theme was song of the year.

"Flash iron on anybody tryin on the blocks I'm supplyin on"

[Stringer Bell]

No fucking doubt. How can someone be so deaf? :(

[jesus sucks]

get rich or die tryin' was better than any album nas has done except illmatic and stillmatic. but the beats are better than the beats on stillmatic.

streets disciple was a terrible cd and that's why it only sold a fraction of the other Nas albums. did it even go gold? probably not. I'm the only one of my group of friends who dared buy it and i really wish i hadn't.

[Stringer Bell]

:rolleyes: Street's Disciple didn't sell well because there were NO radio tracks. That was the point of the CD.. hardcore, truthful hip-hop.. not commercial radio BS. The one radio-friendly song ("You Know My Style") wasn't even a single. Welcome to my ignore list.

[jesus sucks]

i didn't sell because it's a crap album. there's nothing underground about it. it's a joke to think that's some kind of hardcore album, what about the track on disc 2 with a corny orchestral beat & some r&b guy singing all over it? fuck off that's not hardcore.

[Fro]

And Get Rich is?

[Inter Minan]

Streets Disciple is a puffed up double CD, Nas should have realised there were only a total of about 10 good tracks on both cd's and released a very good single cd, rather than letting a lot shit through and making it a double cd.

The good 10 or so tracks though, make it a lot better than Get Rich...

[DaRocTric]

I liked SD. It wasnt anything compared to Illmatic or Stillmatic but it was hot. 2 CDs wasnt a good idea. I think it would of been better if he put out like 13 track CD.

I like Kanyes album. The production is amazing. Hell, even Paul Wall shines on 'Drive Slow'. Im kinda annoyed Game only had like 2 lines on his appearance on 'Crack Music'. But I enjoyed this CD, I will def. buy it.

[TapOut]

And Get Rich is?

What the fuck? JS never said Get Rich was a hardcore album. He said he thinks it's a classic and likes it over some of Nas' work. It's not a hard concept.

[Fro]

Yea... Get Rich being a classic is the hard concept.

[DaRocTric]

Get Rich is a great CD...excellent...its like 9.75 out of 10...it aint a classic...

[TapOut]

Yea... Get Rich being a classic is the hard concept.

To you. Point is, it's a memorable, easily-recognizable album, lots of hit singles, and like it or not, it's going to be remembered for a long time to come. Maybe we have different ideas as to what makes a classic, but in my book (and a lot of other people's), it's a classic.

[jesus sucks]

you put Get rich up against Low End Theory, or De la Soul is dead, things like that, then no it's not a classic in the same way. you can't match it up to that kind of hiphop. but as a gangsta rap CD i'd say it's one of the very best ever, it sounds as good to me as most of the old death row/ geto boys albums which i was into when i first got into rap. i've seen it in alot of rock magazines hailed as a classic. it's not just me. when that album goes on in a car everyone is into it, even the lads who don't like rap. every song is a monster and his flow is immense on it.

[jesus sucks]

see i've got 'Back Down' track 10 on get rich, it's on the cd player right now. put this on and tell me it's not one of the best songs of all time. i can't find one thing wrong with this track. lyrics, beat, mix, flow. and the whole album is full of monster tunes like this or even better. just go and put it on, put this song on. it's better than anything nas has done since illmatic even better than 'ether' and 'rewind' on stillmatic.

[DaRocTric]

Im very picky when choosing my 'classics'...Classics are only the likes of a Ready To Die, Blueprint, Chronic, All Eyez on Me, De la Soul is Dead, Life After Death, Illmatic, 36 Chambers...

Though, I enjoy GROTD...To me its not a classic. It goes into the category of Great Albums.

[Kris P. Lettus]

ETTSCOS, PIF, and SPLCM are much better albums..

O_o

[jesus sucks]

my Kanye West album on it's way today. :D

and Krispy honestly i didn't mean to offend any white posters or was being racist by saying wigger. no hard feelings like :beer:

[Suno]

see i've got 'Back Down' track 10 on get rich, it's on the cd player right now. put this on and tell me it's not one of the best songs of all time. i can't find one thing wrong with this track. lyrics, beat, mix, flow. and the whole album is full of monster tunes like this or even better. just go and put it on, put this song on. it's better than anything nas has done since illmatic even better than 'ether' and 'rewind' on stillmatic.

HAHAHAHAHA! BULLSHIT!

[Stringer Bell]

Damn, I had him on ignore and thought I wouldn't have to read shit like that anymore.. :(

At this point he's nothing more than a gimmick poster :p

"Back Down" > "Rewind" and "Ether"... hahahaha.

And Tap... JS did call GRODT hardcore. He's been going on and on about how 50 is so gangster... yet "Thief's Theme" is harder than 50's catalogue.

[DaRocTric]

News on Talib Kweli...

He got a label deal with Blacksmith Records, he is close to making MF Doom, Jean Grae and Rakim to his label....Sounds hot.

[Stringer Bell]

Shit, that sounds ridiculous. Talib, Doom, Jean Grae, and Rakim all under the same umbrella? That's gonna be some quality music.

[QuietStorm]

He'll never get those people signed.

[Mr. Boombastic]

add Aquemini, to that list of classic rap albums by the way

[DuffDaddy]

Southernplayalistic and ATLiens are better, but Aquemini's definitely a classic too. You could go on forever with classic albums.

[spanish announce table]

:rolleyes: Street's Disciple didn't sell well because there were NO radio tracks. That was the point of the CD.. hardcore, truthful hip-hop.. not commercial radio BS. The one radio-friendly song ("You Know My Style") wasn't even a single. Welcome to my ignore list.

I thought SD was awesome, but tracks like Remember the Times, The Makings of a Perfect Bitch, You Know my Style, and No One Else in the Room are pretty weak. The concept of Scarlett is pretty bizarre too, although it made for some good music. I dont think this album deserves as much hate as it is getting, but I can see where it's coming from.



The DangerDoom album is friggin dope. This is the first MF Doom album I've heard, and though his lyrics are hard to decipher, the end product is different from anything out there. "Old School" with Talib Kweli is :yes:

[Stringer Bell]

"Remember The Times" wasn't horrible, but I could've done without it. Everything else you named I agree, was weaker, especially "No One Else..", but Nas still came with it lyrically. I dunno, I can listen to this album almost a full year later and it still sounds dope, fresh, and relevent as fuck. Nas is the truth, plain and simple. The way he approaches his verses is like no one else in hip-hop today. I'm not necessarily saying he's the greatest, but he deserves props for putting out a double-disc of hot shit, minus a couple tracks.. most rappers these days can't even make a consistent single disc (see: Cassidy, Mike Jones, and so on..).

And yeah, that Dangerdoom is awesome. Definitely check out Doom's other work.. save the Special Herbs comps for last though. "Old School" is definitely a dope track.. gotta love that classic feel. "Bizzy Box", "The Mask", "Sofa King", "Space Ho's".. fuck, the whole album is so refreshing. Thank god for people like Doom and DM.

[CollegeGraduate]

Street's Disciple is kinda wank. isn't there a track called "Coon's Picnic"?


Yes, young man. Yes there is. :)


I love Nas. Straight up, I feel he is a monster on the mic and is the most talented rapper we have in the game today even though he fell off BIG time with Streets Disciple. Streets Disciple was utter garbage though, but it was funny on one song where he disses kobe bryant and cuba gooding. Still, the cd was a disgrace and I am just going to act like Nas never released that album. No way in hell he will release 2 awful albums in a row. Next album of his will be hot. When is it due by the way?

[Raw Is Jonathan]

How many times have you had a gun pulled on you??

Or shot at you??

Not talking about air rifles either..

You're my boy and all but don't come around me and act like you're harder than all white folks just because you're half black.. Come to my block and you'd get cold fucked up.. Bullets don't see race.. And you (being from England) don't see bullets..

:\

Heh.

go on just say, "my bollocks are bigger than yours!" seriously though black, you can't compare the two. I live in Birmingham, I play football in some of the dodgiest places around, gun city, people are getting shot and killed week in week out, our gun problem is so bad that it is one of six major problems we are trying to iron out. jesus sucks isn't saying he's some sort of gangstar, because you simply aren't if you spend this amount of time online, he's not trying to come on like he's some badass hard monster of a man, just that his eyes are open, streetwise, has seen and heard things go down and isn't ignorant to the fact that these things are happening. Yeah, you may have been shot (not heard about that before) and had guns pulled on you and that, but at the end of the day, you could avoid it if you so wished. I used to vacate clubs where fights, knives and guns were common, yet made the decision to no longer bother to go to such places as what is the point? You obviously like to go to clubs and places where this happens, and? No need to go on like you're some sort of internet super king for it, you do it, fair play, doesn't mean your eyes are any wider open than those across the ocean...

:heart: you krispy, and I know you'll take what I'm saying onboard, it's pretty much the argument tapout had about people sticking to one genre of rap like a football team supporter and not listening to anything else. We've got guns, you got guns, we've got dodgy clubs, you've got dodgy clubs, we've got bad cities, you've got bad cities. In terms of the genre argument, I feel my collection of music is extremely vast in terms of rap/hip hop, and am always keen to try new things and experience new types of music.

Immortal Technique, forgot how good he is, that song about the bird with AIDS, stellar. Need his first album though, anyone got it and want to share?

Krispy, apologies if anything has been said since your above original post, I haven't read further on in the thread yet.

:)

[Raw Is Jonathan]

Whats up with all these abbreviations?! You lazy buggers! You write out names of albums and performers out properly! Buggers!

[Suno]

yeh krispy ya bumbaclaaart, if mans come pon UK ends, mans get BRRRRAAAAT! BRAAAAAAAT! ya heard me!?

[QuietStorm]

Whats up with all these abbreviations?! You lazy buggers! You write out names of albums and performers out properly! Buggers!
Immortal Technique's The Middle Passage got pushed back to January now. Should be worth the wait though, as long as he has regained the use of his vocal chords.

[Kris P. Lettus]

Timlah, RiJ, and Suno are all my peoples but I didn't apperciate JS saying he's harder and has more right to Hip Hop then others cause of his skin color..

Fuck sake, if Rick Rubin hadn't been around Hip Hop wouldn't be what it is today..

:beer:

[Kris P. Lettus]

p.s. My balls are gigantic...