Cricket

[squizza]

I reckon that cricket would have to be one of the best sports. Australia are the best in the world at it. My favourite players are Mark Waugh, Shane Warne, Brett Lee, and Glen McGrath.

AUSTRALIA RULE!!!

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Cricket, ah what a great game.
Pity about the game being pissed upon up at the Gabba otherwise we wuld have won.
Except it did rain and we made a shifty declaration and nearly lost the match to NZ.

Where ya from Squizza?

[da_man]

Australia may rule at cricket, but you don't half suck at Rugby!!

Firstly on Saturday, it was the union match which finished England 21-15 Australia and then on Sunday, the Aussies were tonked in the league match by the British Lions 20-12!

JASON ROBINSON IS GOD!
PAUL SCULTHORPE IS GOD!

:D

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Stick to the topic, if we wanted to speak about Rugby, this thread would be called "Rugby".
If we wanted to talk about English Accomplishments, then im sure you could PM me about it.
It would take under 10, 000 characters easily.

[Black Eagle]

Well, there has been plenty of Cricket talk on the boards as of late, enough to satisfy me needs!!

Anyways, yes Australia are the best cricketing nation in the world, and will continue to be so for many years to come

[naked_bloke]

england are the best in the world at cricket, we're just letting everyone else have a go at being good.

the end.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by naked_bloke
england are the best in the world at cricket, we're just letting everyone else have a go at being good.

the end.

HAHAHAHAHA

well done Brennan, good to see that losing so many test matches hasn't made you lose your sense of humour

But while i'm here, quick poll: Who here plays cricket?

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by da_man
Australia may rule at cricket, but you don't half suck at Rugby!!

Firstly on Saturday, it was the union match which finished England 21-15 Australia and then on Sunday, the Aussies were tonked in the league match by the British Lions 20-12!

JASON ROBINSON IS GOD!
PAUL SCULTHORPE IS GOD!

:D

Sooo... we win the World Cup, Bledisloe, Tri-Nations and Trophy-I-Can't-Remember-The-Name-Of by beating the Lions here in rugby union this year alone. We UTTERLY dominate the rugby league World Cup. And just because we get beaten in one game, we suddenly suck? :wtf:
The Australian rugby league side lost because of all this shit about tour cancellations. They hadn't played a game in over 5 weeks, you'd expect them to be a little rusty. And the Wallabies scored 2 tries to 0, remember? If you didn't have Wilkinson, you'd be royally fucked. Pun intended. That was the most chickenshit attacking performance I'd seen in a long time. Get within 22 - field goal. Get within 22 - field goal. Typical boring, Northern-hemisphere rugby attitude.

Oh, yeah and Steve Waugh very nearly screwed up completely. I knew he'd underestimated the Kiwis by delcaring too early. I would've been more comfortable if the lead had been 300-320.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi


Oh, yeah and Steve Waugh very nearly screwed up completely. I knew he'd underestimated the Kiwis by delcaring too early. I would've been more comfortable if the lead had been 300-320.

Who really cares? Seriously, Australia, ever since Steve Waugh took over from Taylor has played an aggressive style of Cricket. They would rather lose then draw.

I think it was very good to see Stephen Fleming first declare once they went past the score, cause he could have batted out the day to see a draw, and secondly Steve Waugh could have done the same - but they wanted an exciting game

props to both Captains as it gave us an exciting Cricket game, and not a boring fizzled out Draw

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Black Eagle
They would rather lose than draw.


I SERIOUSLY doubt that.

[Black Eagle]

I read it in a autobiography, i think it was McGraths. But their team plan basically was about being aggressively, and that if they lost it was better then having a boring draw

and i can see the sense in that

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Black Eagle
I read it in a autobiography, i think it was McGraths. But their team plan basically was about being aggressively, and that if they lost it was better then having a boring draw

and i can see the sense in that



I still SERIOUSLY doubt that. You can play aggressively and still draw. You can play boring and still lose.

[The Parcheesi]

Let me put it this way: It's the Fifth Ashes test. The series is tied 2-2 (LOL, alright, but I'm talking hypothetically). The test has been affected by rain, it's the fifth day, just before tea. Australia are batting and are 160 in front with 8 wickets to spare. Do you declare and send England in, knowing that you're risking losing the Ashes for the first time in ages, but knowing you have to take the risk to win? Or do you bat out the 2-odd hours, leaving the series tied and retaining the Ashes?

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi

Let me put it this way: It's the Fifth Ashes test. The series is tied 2-2 (LOL, alright, but I'm talking hypothetically). The test has been affected by rain, it's the fifth day, just before tea. Australia are batting and are 160 in front with 8 wickets to spare. Do you declare and send England in, knowing that you're risking losing the Ashes for the first time in ages, but knowing you have to take the risk to win? Or do you bat out the 2-odd hours, leaving the series tied and retaining the Ashes?

Well that is a very tough scenario. But you would have to analyse the situation and go from there. If the pitch was doing a bit, then you might back mcgrah and co to get 10 english wickets after tea. But then again, you might belive that 160 isn't big enough.

personally, with the rain affecting the ground and pitch, i would back the bowlers to rip throug the english batting line up. But most likely they will shut up shop and play out a draw

[Moz]

Cricket, is one of my or is my favourite sports. I'm an avid Pakistan supporter. They are unbeatable when they are 100%

I don't really follow any other teams that much - I have limited circket viewing.

I welcome cricket convo though.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi

Let me put it this way: It's the Fifth Ashes test. The series is tied 2-2 (LOL, alright, but I'm talking hypothetically). The test has been affected by rain, it's the fifth day, just before tea. Australia are batting and are 160 in front with 8 wickets to spare. Do you declare and send England in, knowing that you're risking losing the Ashes for the first time in ages, but knowing you have to take the risk to win? Or do you bat out the 2-odd hours, leaving the series tied and retaining the Ashes?

Well because the bookies think Steve Waugh will not declare, what you do is, Put all your money on The poms winning the Match and Butcher making a century.
The odds should be around 54/1.
Just let them win the game and you'll have a nice wad of cash in your back pocket.

Oh and remember I'm expecting a call from Hansie pretty soon

[The Shev]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi:

Let me put it this way: It's the Fifth Ashes test. The series is tied 2-2 (LOL, alright, but I'm talking hypothetically). The test has been affected by rain, it's the fifth day, just before tea. Australia are batting and are 160 in front with 8 wickets to spare. Do you declare and send England in, knowing that you're risking losing the Ashes for the first time in ages, but knowing you have to take the risk to win? Or do you bat out the 2-odd hours, leaving the series tied and retaining the Ashes?


It's a tough situation, but don't kid yourself. By the time that situation rolls around, you Poms will be watching it from your retirement homes. And as for rugby, umm... both types of rugby, Australia do rule the world- look at all the cups we have won recently. BTW, whats the difference between those two types of rugby???

AUSSIE FOR RUNNERS UP IN SOCCER WORLD CUP!!!

ITALY FIRST!!!

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Commissioner Socko
And as for rugby, umm... both types of rugby, Australia do rule the world- look at all the cups we have won recently. BTW, whats the difference between those two types of rugby???

Oh shit, there's heaps of differences. Two extra players on the field, different points system, different penalty system, interchange, run of play, off-side etc, etc. League is basically a faster version of Union that only gives each team 5 tackles to score a try instead of a potentially infinite number of rucks in Union. I won't go into specifics or terminology, but if you're interested you can look up rulebooks and compare. I take it you're an AFL boy? ;)

Another few sports that Australians currently dominate: Hockey, beach volleyball, water polo and lawn bowls.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by Mo
Cricket, is one of my or is my favourite sports. I'm an avid Pakistan supporter. They are unbeatable when they are 100%

I don't really follow any other teams that much - I have limited circket viewing.

I welcome cricket convo though.
Tell me you are kidding?

Pakistan = bribing cheats

From all reports, and they are most likely true, they have cheated their way to more victories in the past few years, then they have won it truthfully. They are all selfish players, and cannot, and will not gel together as a side.

They have classy batsmen, quality bowlers, but because they don't work well with each other - they don't rate that highly

[Moz]

Originally posted by Black Eagle

Tell me you are kidding?

Pakistan = bribing cheats

From all reports, and they are most likely true, they have cheated their way to more victories in the past few years, then they have won it truthfully. They are all selfish players, and cannot, and will not gel together as a side.

They have classy batsmen, quality bowlers, but because they don't work well with each other - they don't rate that highly



There's only a few cheaters I know of, the bribers are gone, IMO. Tere's too much corruption in thebackroom. They are great young players in Pakistan - I only think when the older ones are gone the new players will succeed. The talent is their:

Saeed Anwar is one of the best opening batsmen in the wolrd.
Shahid Afridi is one of the most exciting players and a great all-rounder, Leisctershire (or some other county circket tem know this).
Inzamam Ul-Huq, a great batsmen and can provide it when he can be bothered.
Saqlain Mushtaq - best off spinner in the world today (bar Muraliatharan(sp)
Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis - greatest opening bowling partnership of the ninetires arguable the best of all time and they can still do it.
Moin khan - BOWLING BOWLING SAQY SAQY BOWLING BOWLING!!!!!

Pakistan are up their in terms of class and are one of the best natiosn cricketing wise. THere's too much corruption and cheating right now - hopefully when the older players go that'll stop.


semi-Interesting story - Andrew Caddick (england) swore to Rashid Latif and some other player in Urdu (Pakitsani language), they replied back by saying "F*ck you".

[Ravi]

What? :)
Everyone knows that India is the best at Cricket
What?
INDIA'S THE BEST!!!!!!
:cool:

[Beefy]

Originally posted by Commissioner Socko

AUSSIE FOR RUNNERS UP IN SOCCER WORLD CUP!!!

ITALY FIRST!!!

Thats what I like about you Aussies, you can always make me laugh :)

[squizza]

Hey Naked_Bloke

When was the last time that you won the Ashes series

The last time was in 1987. a long time dont you reckon. i think that if they are taking it easy, they have been taking it easy for 14 years.

PS: Australia would kick England's ass's any day of the week

[msmsammo]

Australia would kick anybody's ass
they are wold champs and Mark Waugh and Ponting are my favs!!!
England are S**T

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by squizza

PS: Australia would kick England's ass's any day of the week

Australia A could whoop England's ass any day of the week.

Al full-strength NSW side would even give them a good run for their money.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi


Australia A could whoop England's ass any day of the week.

Al full-strength NSW side would even give them a good run for their money.

Well the Australian team is basically a full strength NSW side anyways, fucking biased selectors

[squizza]

Our Melbourne side could even beat england.
Even Junior cricketers could beat them.

Like msmsammo said England are SHIT

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by squizza
Our Melbourne side could even beat england.
Even Junior cricketers could beat them.

Like msmsammo said England are SHIT

Don't go too far. The vics are in a rot. have been for a number of years, and until they get rid of a few players, then they won't have a chance in beating fucking antartica

[squizza]

yeah i spose. i am going a bit too far. but i reckin that qld or nsw could beat em if they had a full strength team. the vics lately probably couldn't beat antartica.

any way where are u from Black Eagle?

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by squizza
yeah i spose. i am going a bit too far. but i reckin that qld or nsw could beat em if they had a full strength team. the vics lately probably couldn't beat antartica.

any way where are u from Black Eagle?

I am from Melbourne, well just outside anyways

[squizza]

Kool im just down the road. Im from Geelong. Hey when's the next test on between Australia and New Zealand on. And when do the matches with South Africa begin.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by squizza
Kool im just down the road. Im from Geelong. Hey when's the next test on between Australia and New Zealand on. And when do the matches with South Africa begin.

The next test is in Hobart starting Nov 22. And the first South Africa game starts Dec 14th.

Geelong hey. I know a few guys down there. Played Cricket against them, good quality sides from there

[The Shev]

Is anyone here from the North-West of Melbourne???

[Black Eagle]

North-west? I have no idea on directions. Where bouts are you?

[naked_bloke]

Originally posted by squizza
Hey Naked_Bloke

When was the last time that you won the Ashes series

The last time was in 1987. a long time dont you reckon. i think that if they are taking it easy, they have been taking it easy for 14 years.

PS: Australia would kick England's ass's any day of the week

oh deary me IT WAS A JOKE YOU FUCKWIT

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by naked_bloke


oh deary me IT WAS A JOKE YOU FUCKWIT

Well i guess he didn't see it

So take it easy on the australian!!

You mean brit you

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Black Eagle


Well the Australian team is basically a full strength NSW side anyways, fucking biased selectors



If Australia were a shit team, I'd see a valid point to that post because you'd be implying that the NSW players didn't deserve to be in the team. And yet they make up an integral part. Coincidence? No.

[Black Eagle]

I never said it was a bad selection, i just said it was strange how many NSW players were looked upon before others. I mean, the waugh's, mcgrath and co deserve to in the side. But how the fuck did Bracken get a guernsy?

Even McGill got many chances.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Squizza, with Melb Aussies, I'm from the South and Black Eagle is the South-East (well more East), RabidWookie was near Springvale last time I egged his house.

As for the Tests.

Australia vs New Zealand

Nov 22 - 26 Hobart
Nov 30 - (Dec) 4 Perth

Australia vs South Africa

Dec 14 - 18 Adelaide
Dec 26 - 30 Melbourne (We should all get together for one of the days in this test)
Jan 2 - 6 Sydney

I'll post the One Dayers Later as they start on Jan 11th (which is still a while away)

As for NSW, there is a major Bias in NSW for test selection, the lesser known sides like WA, QLD, SA are very under-rated and should have more players, this bias started because 10 years ago NSW was the major side and had an influx of decent players, NSW is still seen as the major state as these players such as the Waugh's etc are still playing, by the next 10 years hopefully this bias will be eraidcated as the other state sides have picked up their game. Gilchrist is the beginning of this, lets just hope it can continue.

[Black Eagle]

Well squizza. Myself, Outlaw and Wookie are the dudes from Melbourne, well there is more but they don't post much

Anyways, NSW has always been a strong side, and has been really hard for guys to get selected. So i spose it is fair enough that the selectors choose predominately from that state

Guys like Allan Border and Adam Gilchrist moved from NSW because the side was too strong

[squizza]

hey all i think i found out when the one dayers start

22/3/2002 in Johannesburg against South Africa i think

[squizza]

well thats wot i think im sure if its 100% right

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw

As for NSW, there is a major Bias in NSW for test selection, the lesser known sides like WA, QLD, SA are very under-rated and should have more players, this bias started because 10 years ago NSW was the major side and had an influx of decent players, NSW is still seen as the major state as these players such as the Waugh's etc are still playing, by the next 10 years hopefully this bias will be eraidcated as the other state sides have picked up their game. Gilchrist is the beginning of this, lets just hope it can continue.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[bulldogfan]

Originally posted by Mo

Saeed Anwar is one of the best opening batsmen in the wolrd.

At one time he was one of the top 4 no way the best

Shahid Afridi is one of the most exciting players and a great all-rounder, Leisctershire (or some other county circket tem know this).

Yes i agree

Inzamam Ul-Huq, a great batsmen and can provide it when he can be bothered.

Fat Lazy Potato Man

Saqlain Mushtaq - best off spinner in the world today (bar Muraliatharan(sp)

One of the Best not THE best

Wasim Akram and Waqar Younis - greatest opening bowling partnership of the ninetires arguable the best of all time and they can still do it.

Not as good as Donald & Pollock

Moin khan - BOWLING BOWLING SAQY SAQY BOWLING BOWLING!!!!!

Dont forget -Mushy Mushy

Pakistan are up their in terms of class and are one of the best natiosn cricketing wise.

They are probably the 3rd best behind Oz and The mighty Protea's

But thats what i think and i know people may not agree with me because i am a very annoying poster and i am currently trieing to correct my annoying ways

[msmsammo]

I am from geelong to but England are just shit the North Shore Side could kick their ass.

[bulldogfan]

who else here believes S Africa can match if not beat the ozzies in their test series coming up the reason i say this is because:

Very strong top order although the middle order cold be stronger

Herchelle Gibbs in sparkling form scoring back to back centuries and is currently 150 odd not out in their match against India

Shawn pollock taking ten Wickets in first test and Very capable with the bat

Kluessner batting at 8 scored a century in the first test

Possible return of "White Lightning" A.Donald

No doubt they can match them in the field

Two good allrounders ( Kallis and Pollock) free up spots to develop a good young player (Jaques Rudolph)

Warnies bunnie Cullinan will not be touring

Mcgrath not in good form with the ball

Lee can be expensive at times

Gillespie is the danger man for me, that bloke can easily rip through the top order if luck go's his way

Anyone have any thoughts on The Protea's chances in the test match series in which 3 will be played here and 3 in SA?

[squizza]

i was wrong when the one dayers start. They start on Jan 11th against New Zealand i think at the MCG

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
I'll post the One Dayers Later as they start on Jan 11th (which is still a while away)


Originally posted by Squizza
They start on Jan 11th against New Zealand i think at the MCG

It's always good to know someone's reading my posts.
And just to add its a day-nighter.

[squizza]

Aussie_Outlaw i read your posts but i just forgot that you said that they were on Jan 11

[squizza]

Jan 2002

Fri 11 (D/N): Australia v New Zealand, Melbourne Cricket Ground
Sun 13 (D/N): Australia v South Africa, Melbourne Cricket Ground
Tue 15: New Zealand v South Africa, Bellerive Oval
Thu 17 (D/N): Australia v New Zealand, Sydney Cricket Ground
Sat 19 (D/N): New Zealand v South Africa, Brisbane Cricket Ground
Sun 20 (D/N): Australia v South Africa, Brisbane Cricket Ground
Tue 22 (D/N): Australia v South Africa, Sydney Cricket Ground
Sat 26 (D/N): Australia v New Zealand, Adelaide Oval
Sun 27 (D/N): New Zealand v South Africa, Adelaide Oval
Tue 29 (D/N): Australia v New Zealand, Melbourne Cricket Ground


Feb 2002

Fri 1: New Zealand v South Africa, W.A.C.A.
Sun 3: Australia v South Africa, W.A.C.A.
Wed 6 (D/N): VB Series 1st Final, Melbourne Cricket Ground
Fri 8 (D/N): VB Series 2nd Final, Sydney Cricket Ground
Sun 10 (D/N): VB Series 3rd Final (if req.), Sydney Cricket Ground

[squizza]

i think that these dates should be correct because i got them off the baggy green site.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Just wondering,
did anyone else actually watch the end to the QLD vs NSW one dayer, I gotta say Mark Higgs and Steve Waugh made the defense look easy, I will say it now, Higgs is someone to watch for the future. If he shows the technique he displayed today he will go far.
Except he has not shown any decent cricket until this point. His average (OD) at the moment is 33.68 and he should increase that in matches to come.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
Just wondering,
did anyone else actually watch the end to the QLD vs NSW one dayer, I gotta say Mark Higgs and Steve Waugh made the defense look easy, I will say it now, Higgs is someone to watch for the future. If he shows the technique he displayed today he will go far.
Except he has not shown any decent cricket until this point. His average (OD) at the moment is 33.68 and he should increase that in matches to come.

Yeh i will agree on that David, sir.

But, the name to watch for the future, is Simon Dart

closely followed by Rhys Adams

[Aussie Ando]

Beware of the Vics boys...
They will be a force in the ING cup....
And I hear their Junior ranks are pretty good too...
They have this handy all rounder...
And some tall bloody qucik opener....
So beware boys...

Go Vics!!!!

[squizza]

Originally posted by Aussie Ando

Beware of the Vics boys...
They will be a force in the ING cup....
And I hear their Junior ranks are pretty good too...
They have this handy all rounder...
And some tall bloody qucik opener....
So beware boys...

Go Vics!!!!


I know that the vics have some good players but not all of them are performing. In some matches some of the players are playing good but some other matches their not. My favourite player from the vic team is Ian Harvey he's got the best slower ball, and he can hit the ball when he wants to. That's basically all of the time. The trouble is with some of the other players they are too inconsistent.

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Aussie Ando

Beware of the Vics boys...
They will be a force in the ING cup....

:lol:

Starting when, exactly?

Mark Higgs will be the next batsman to receive a baggy green. Although I guess that's due to the "biased selectors", not because he deserves it or anything. :rolleyes:

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi


:lol:

Starting when, exactly?

Mark Higgs will be the next batsman to receive a baggy green. Although I guess that's due to the "biased selectors", not because he deserves it or anything. :rolleyes:

Thats almost as funny as reading Ando's post!! Higgs has one good game and he is suddenly put in the spotlight as a fucking gun. I admit that he is a good player, but he is still a few years of test selection.

Look at these names:

Katich
Hussy
Lehmann
Blewett
Daniel Marsh

They are all possiblities to recieve the baggy green before higgs.


Originally posted by squizza


[b]I know that the vics have some good players but not all of them are performing. In some matches some of the players are playing good but some other matches their not. My favourite player from the vic team is Ian Harvey he's got the best slower ball, and he can hit the ball when he wants to. That's basically all of the time. The trouble is with some of the other players they are too inconsistent.

Ian Harvey is the only consistent player in the squad. He has made runs all year and taken wickets in most matches.

His slower ball is one of a kind, and i'm working on the same one. Being taught by Harvey himself helps though!!!

[squizza]

Mark higgs this, mark higgs that. he is not a god. he may of played a good innings of cricket on sunday but he hasnt performed all that well before. if i had of said does any body know mark higgs on saturday whats the bet it would of been NO! he may become a contender for a baggy green but one game doesnt get selectors going nuts just take a look at matthew elliot last year now tell me how may tonnes did he make in the pura milk cup series he made one just about every match and what does he get but his aussie contract withdrawn. mark higgs wont be the next one for sure, if he was a great bowler he might but a young batsman is highly unlikely because the selectors are looking for older more experienced players.

Sumary of Mark Higgs: One Shot Wonder

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by squizza
take a look at matthew elliot last year now tell me how may tonnes did he make in the pura milk cup series he made one just about every match and what does he get but his aussie contract withdrawn.

OK I know Matthew Elliot's family and I would have to say Matthew Elliot is the dumbest cricketer in all the Australian State Sides, he has no skills besides being able to hit a ball, he isn't a decent fielder and his articulation is very shoddy. Come to think of it he also buckled once given his chance in the Test side, also it must be remembered this was at a time when the team was depleated and once the players returned he would lose his spot.
It's as simple as that.



Originally posted by Black Eagle
Look at these names:
Katich
Hussy
Lehmann
Blewett
Daniel Marsh
They are all possiblities to recieve the baggy green before higgs.

I agree that Simon Katich will be a major player in Australias future.
I can't see much for Michael Hussy mainly because he has no name value as he plays for WA, and since his home ground is a Paceman's wicket that will go against him.
Darren Lehmann is basically washed up, he's had his run in the sun and he didnt make the grade, if he was in any other country he's had over 100 tests to his name but basically he's over the hill at the time when the selectors will be looking for new players.
Greg Blewett was poorly selected when he was dropped from the one day side, he deserved his place and still does. The selectors should give him another go.
Daniel Marsh, Hmmm, I'll think about it.
Rhys Adams- Sorry never heard of the bloke? Does he play for the Moe district side or something?

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw


Rhys Adams- Sorry never heard of the bloke? Does he play for the Moe district side or something?

Well sir, Rhys Adams trains with the state squad!

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by Black Eagle

Well sir, Rhys Adams trains with the state squad!


OK after a while searching the name "Rhys Adams" I have come to the conclusion, he doesn't exist and he never trained with any state Squad.

From what I hear from my underground sources, Rhys Adams is a player who was good, no scratch that, thought he was good but in recent times has had a major lack of form, he drinks most nights and has a major alcoholic problem, he also urinates on the stumps when he needs to go to the toilet because he is too lazy to walk back to the dressing room.

Remember its just what I've heard.

Also I think my Moe link is correct, he plays in Moccasins.

[The Parcheesi]

OK, time to bring this thread back to life. Sachin Tendulkar has been suspended for 1 game and fined 75% of his match earnings for ball tampering. Thoughts/comments? Steve Waugh was pretty critical, but Indian officials and commentators are saying its rediculous. In my eyes, its a pretty clear-cut case of seam-lifting. Is it time to start trimming player's nails and checking their pockets for abrasives?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi

Sachin Tendulkar has been suspended for 1 game and fined 75% of his match earnings for ball tampering. Thoughts/comments? Steve Waugh was pretty critical, but Indian officials and commentators are saying its rediculous. In my eyes, its a pretty clear-cut case of seam-lifting. Is it time to start trimming player's nails and checking their pockets for abrasives?

Yes well the state that the game is in today, of course they're gonna pull up everyone they can.
It reminds me of when Michael Atherton was fined for keeping sand in his pocket, because they saw that the sand han no affect on the ball so they fined him for keeping sand in his pocket.
So this isn't rediculous because the board has already made a history of fining people who they think are trying to gain an unfair advantage.

The indians are just a pack of whingers. If Steve Waugh was fined, we're be crying poor also, but what do you know WE'RE NOT A PACK OF CHEATS OVER HERE.

The only thing Australia does that is considered slightly illegal is chriping (sledging) which they are trying to outlaw in this current game.

It adds to the game and adds another dimension to the game with psychological battles.

[The Parcheesi]

Well, the Indians were also in a fair bit of trouble for over-appealing against South Africa, which is something that really pisses me off.

I don't see anything wrong with sledging, though. It's a psychological aspect of a good, aggressive team, provided its not racist or derogatory. It has basically the same effect as putting a fielder in close to put the batsman off.

[squizza]

after a while when the best keeper in aus retires (Darren Berry) a possible candidate im not saying as soon as he goes but maybe one player after the next keeper for vic my friend that i grew up and went to school with lindsay scown he plays nth melb 1's and is a great player for 17 years of age i think he could easyly go there in the up and coming years.

[squizza]

look aussie outlaw i didn't know guys that couldn't field could get a catch and then get into orange classic catches. also first ive heard of dumd cunts getting captaincy in the ing cup and vice-captaincy in the pura milk cup. u dont happen to be matthew elliots family next door neighbour do ya, u sound like your chums with them.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by squizza
look aussie outlaw i didn't know guys that couldn't field could get a catch and then get into orange classic catches. also first ive heard of dumd cunts getting captaincy in the ing cup and vice-captaincy in the pura milk cup. u dont happen to be matthew elliots family next door neighbour do ya, u sound like your chums with them

OK it seems there is something you missed. Watch out this may hurt.
Oh no its the point.

I'm chums with Matthew Elliot's family, fuck no. I hate him as a cricketer. Also as I said before


Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
I would have to say Matthew Elliot is the dumbest cricketer in all the Australian State Sides, he has no skills besides being able to hit a ball, he isn't a decent fielder and his articulation is very shoddy. Come to think of it he also buckled once given his chance in the Test side, also it must be remembered this was at a time when the team was depleated and once the players returned he would lose his spot.

Also I can't see how you claim Darren Berry is the best Keeper in Oz, Gilchrist is higher than him easily, because he can hold his on with the bat and berry cannot.

And I can't see your mate playing for Australia, but I won't comment further because I don't know him.

Yes I agree with Parcheesi once again, sledging should stay.

Oh and Squizza, use the caps lock button, and a grammer and spell-checker. I may not be the best writer but in time I will learn to skip your posts because they are just damn annoying to read. It also makes you look dumber (or smarter in your case) than you really are.

[squizza]

Originally posted by squizza
after a while when the best keeper in aus retires (Darren Berry) a possible candidate im not saying as soon as he goes but maybe one player after the next keeper for vic my friend that i grew up and went to school with lindsay scown he plays nth melb 1's and is a great player for 17 years of age i think he could easyly go there in the up and coming years.

Hey Aussie Outlaw cant you bloody read or something or are you just plain stupid. Darren Berry Plays for Victoria. Victoria is not Australia. Australia is a country. Victoria is a State. Also I didn't say that my friend will play for Australia i said that he might play for Victoria in the up and coming years.

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by squizza

Hey Aussie Outlaw cant you bloody read or something or are you just plain stupid. Darren Berry Plays for Victoria. Victoria is not Australia. Australia is a country. Victoria is a State. Also I didn't say that my friend will play for Australia i said that he might play for Victoria in the up and coming years.

Can you read? Or are you just plain stupid?
You said, and I quote:


after a while when the best keeper in aus retires (Darren Berry)

Which is a pretty straightforward statement that Berry is the best keeper in Australia.

Horseshit.

Berry isn't fit to lick the inside of Gilchrist's box. Could you make any more of a dick of yourself without popping an artery? I'd love to see you try.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Looks like I don't need to reply because Parcheesi has already done so on my behalf.

But anyway...
squizza you should really remember what you have said so your dont contradict yourself again

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Well its now 0/182 in the Afternoon session

And Langer has just become the highest 100's scorer for WA.

just thought everyone should be informed.

[kore_terminator]

Damn this is just becoming a fast joke - Bringing back memories when the West Indies last summer completly disgraced themselves. To think Langer and Hayden are really make shift openers, they have had three 100 run opening stands in the last three tests.

I reckon Michael Slater is really sweating in his seat about his spot in the test team.

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by kore_terminator
Michael Slater

Who?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi


Who?

He's related to Kelly Slater (the surfer) I think.

[kore_terminator]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw


He's related to Kelly Slater (the surfer) I think.

For a guy who has a decent average (around 42), who couldnt convert 9 (i think) 90's into 100's, he would be an opening batter for every other country bar the No1 in cricket today, Australia.

DAMMIT Langer just went out, for 123.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Well time to return to the game

Langer went out for 123 off 153 balls.
Caught Vettori Bowled Cairns.
Australia now 1/223
at 3pm.
Thats All

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by kore_terminator


For a guy who has a decent average (around 42), who couldnt convert 9 (i think) 90's into 100's, he would be an opening batter for every other country bar the No1 in cricket today, Australia.

Yep, and it just goes to show how strong the team is. They can afford to have Slater out just because he has a bad spell, and now Langer has capitalised.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi


Yep, and it just goes to show how strong the team is. They can afford to have Slater out just because he has a bad spell, and now Langer has capitalised.

OK lets have another Outlaw Stats Check.

Michael Slater

42.83 in 117 innings Strike Rate of 53.29 which isnt bad in test matches




Hayden Out for 91 off 140 balls
Caught Bond Bowled Vettori
Australia now 2/238
at 3:12pm

here's a description of the ball (from Baggygreen.com.au)

Vettori to Hayden, OUT: my goodness, perhaps time to starting eating one's hat - a double breakthrough for New Zealand as the other opener goes - but short of a century this time, tries to pick up another down the ground, but gets under it just a bit too much

[Aussie_Outlaw]

You know what, Another Wicket (Mini Collapse)

M. Waugh Out for 12 off 16 balls
Bowled Vettori
Australia 3/253
at 3:30pm (ten min till tea)

ball description:
Vettori to ME Waugh, OUT: oh boy! well blow me down and call me Murphy. Waugh comes down the track, looking to do a Hayden and loft him down the ground, but misses horrible, beautifully bowled and straight through him, beaten in flight and takes off stump.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Well its tea time (3:40pm) and what can I say, we we're fine until we fell apart

3/263
Ponting 20
S. Waugh 0

Well if the first test was an indication up lower order should hold up well and we should be able to reach 500, well thats what I think anyway.

Anyone else?

[kore_terminator]

Dammit when it's time to get excited about a good score and a possible match winning innings, we lose 3 wickets. Atleast we have Gilchrist to make a quick 50, batting at 7. Hope this match does not repeat the first test, where rain and a really generous decleration almost cost us the match:mad:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Fuck now a double

S. Waugh out for 0 off
Bowled Bond
Australia 4/267

Martyn out for 0 off 1
LBW by Vettori
Australia 5/267
4:15pm

NO HAT TRICK THOUGH FELLAS

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Another Wicket

Gilchrist OUT for 39 off 50 balls
bowled Vettori
Australia 6/336
5:15pm


Maybe we will fall for 400-450

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Stumps Day 1

Warne and Ponting in at Stumps

BaggyGreen.Com.Au Day 1 Summary
And it is stumps on the opening day, Australia certainly winning the points decision through an amazing run rate, held consistently all the way through their innings - 4.56 at the end of the day, the opening partnership and rearguard action - it's almost become a customary occurrence - particularly in this series so far, as has the middle order collapse, but when a team doesn't have a genuine tail to really speak of, that is cancelled out a little a 223-run opening stand had the writing on the wall for New Zealand again, scored at an even quicker rate than Brisbane, but two quick, relatively gifted wickets of both batsmen saw the start of New Zealand's fightback Vettori transformed from a struggle against the left-handed opening duo in the morning session to beguiler with control for large parts of the last two sessions and was rewarded duly - bowling Mark Waugh and Gilchrist will no doubt have given him the most satisfaction Bond bowled with spirit, if not consistency, and earned Steve Waugh's wicket fairly, even though the decision was proved questionable by slow motion replays well after the event however, the bowling effort overall was very disappointing - when bowling short, was not bowling short enough, and too often straying down the leg side (a problem helped by having two left- handers out in the middle for a long time as the Kiwis failed to adjust appropriately) the Australians capitalised in grand style, and at the end of the day they can be happy they have the foundation of a match-winning total if they push on tomorrow

-God someone teach the guy at Baggygreen.com.au to use fullstops.

[The Parcheesi]

Daniel Vettori's a little bitch.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi

Daniel Vettori's a little bitch.

Someone should steal those things he calls glasses, that would really fuck him up.

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw


Someone should steal those things he calls glasses, that would really fuck him up.

I'd like to take them off and do a Three Stooges "Curly" and poke his eyes out.

[kore_terminator]

If we can bat on tomorrow, make around 500 runs, we can pretty much seal this test. Without that 4 eyes Vettori, the aussies would have been laughing. Ah well, i can see that the Aussie tail will stretch tomorrow, make some more runs, declare, and then hopefully bowl them out twice.

[Alanna]

No-one would care where I'm from but I'm in south-east melbourne and The_Australian_Crippler is from coffs harbour

[Pete Cash]

Originally posted by candy_gal
No-one would care where I'm from but I'm in south-east melbourne and The_Australian_Crippler is from coffs harbour

What, how, why.

Why have you given away where I live. What is it's relevents, oh well better lock the windows tonight

*looks around nervously*

and besides how many times do I have to tell you it is spelt coughs harboor

[Black Eagle]

I stalk The Australian Crippler :D

Anyways, the Sachin case is clear cut, he was caught tampering and he faced the consequences. There is no place in this game for cheats. He is a tremendous player, and i don't see the need to fix the seam.

With the appealing thing, the Indians do it too often. They try and intimidate the umpire into giving the wrong decision. It is a form of cheating, and it should be outlawed.
This brings up another question i will ask you all:

Should electronic aids, assist umpires in giving LBW's?

I ask you this, because Langer was hit on the pads early on in his innings, and was given not out, but replays shown it may have hit middle and off........also Steve waugh may have been unlucky in his decision.
In my opinion, the umpire's do a superb job. They are human, and only have a split second to make up their mind. They don't have the benefit to look at slow motion replays, and they do a good job 9 out of 10 times.

But if replays are continually shown, then the umpires will come under scrutiny and their reputations may demise. i agree that run outs should be passed to the third umpire, but thats it!

[kore_terminator]

Originally posted by Black Eagle
I stalk The Australian Crippler :D

Should electronic aids, assist umpires in giving LBW's?

I ask you this, because Langer was hit on the pads early on in his innings, and was given not out, but replays shown it may have hit middle and off........also Steve waugh may have been unlucky in his decision.
In my opinion, the umpire's do a superb job. They are human, and only have a split second to make up their mind. They don't have the benefit to look at slow motion replays, and they do a good job 9 out of 10 times.

But if replays are continually shown, then the umpires will come under scrutiny and their reputations may demise. i agree that run outs should be passed to the third umpire, but thats it!



It would be the easy way of letting the third umpire decide on the numerous amout of LBW appeals, but it practically demotes the role of Unpires to holding the bowlers hats and jumpers. they should be left the responsibility, it has worked for over 200 years, let the tradition continue.

Quick score update: 7 / 488 (rain delay at the moment)
Warne out :mad: for 70

[Pete Cash]

Originally posted by kore_terminator


It would be the easy way of letting the third umpire decide on the numerous amout of LBW appeals, but it practically demotes the role of Unpires to holding the bowlers hats and jumpers. they should be left the responsibility, it has worked for over 200 years, let the tradition continue.

Quick score update: 7 / 488 (rain delay at the moment)
Warne out :mad: for 70

Why do you need umpires at all.

Here is my idea, robotic hat racks, get some good aussie scientist's to invent a robot that is shaped like a hat rack, the bowlers can just simply leave their hats and jumpers on the machine.

Install censors on the creases and have plenty of camera;s installed around the place and the robots can do all the work, count how many balls have been bowled, check for no-balls, measure wether a ball is exacly a wide, ajudicate run outs and even judge caught behinds and LBW. Install an arm into the robot so it can wave a four, or raise the infamous finger and really what more could you want, of course it might drop the hats, but really that is a small price to pay.

Of course my idea might remove a bit of the fun from the game, if an umpire makes a mistake against your team you have the right to say that umpire was blind, if someone said to you that the umpire stuffed up for the team he follows you have the right to say read about it in the morning's paper.

Umpires and their mistakes are a part of the game

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by The Australian Crippler


Why do you need umpires at all.

Here is my idea, robotic hat racks, get some good aussie scientist's to invent a robot that is shaped like a hat rack, the bowlers can just simply leave their hats and jumpers on the machine.

Install censors on the creases and have plenty of camera;s installed around the place and the robots can do all the work, count how many balls have been bowled, check for no-balls, measure wether a ball is exacly a wide, ajudicate run outs and even judge caught behinds and LBW. Install an arm into the robot so it can wave a four, or raise the infamous finger and really what more could you want, of course it might drop the hats, but really that is a small price to pay.

Of course my idea might remove a bit of the fun from the game, if an umpire makes a mistake against your team you have the right to say that umpire was blind, if someone said to you that the umpire stuffed up for the team he follows you have the right to say read about it in the morning's paper.

Umpires and their mistakes are a part of the game

Well said Pauly. Seriously, it is stupid to critisise umpires. It is easy to make a decision when you are watching a slow motion replay on a big screen from the sidelines. But when you are out in the middle, pressure all around and you must make a decision, it isn't all that easy

I like the Robot idea, but if the batteries die: What happens?
Also, could you program the robot to tell when to go of for lunch?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Robotic Umpires, they'd have to be waterproof.


Personally I have the best system.
There will be no umpires, no ACB, no ICC.
The players will work on an honor system, where they look at their leg and judge themselves in or out.
Like Schoolyard Cricket
6's will be out and if Bowlers go out first ball they're not out.
Batters with averages over 50 can be caugh one hand, one bounce.

And Hansie Cronje will automatically be reinstated as "Cheif Cricketing Financial Engineer".

The Perfect Plan has just been unraveled by yours truely.
Please dont plagurize.

[squizza]

Rain delayed play once again but good news. Play has started again. Go Ricky Ponting and Brett Lee.

[Y2C]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi

Let me put it this way: It's the Fifth Ashes test. The series is tied 2-2 (LOL, alright, but I'm talking hypothetically). The test has been affected by rain, it's the fifth day, just before tea. Australia are batting and are 160 in front with 8 wickets to spare. Do you declare and send England in, knowing that you're risking losing the Ashes for the first time in ages, but knowing you have to take the risk to win? Or do you bat out the 2-odd hours, leaving the series tied and retaining the Ashes?

If I was in that situation, I would put Engalnd in, because we all know that they are bunnies to the Australian bowling attack.

[Y2C]

Hey, did anybody see the rankings for the top 10 current cricketers? How many blowjobs did Andy Flower give to get ranked no. 1? Australia had 3 batsmen in the top 10 & 2 bowlers in the top 10. :eek: What are the odds of another undefeated Summer? (Well we can't even last years performance coz we got screwed by the rain)

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Y2C
Hey, did anybody see the rankings for the top 10 current cricketers? How many blowjobs did Andy Flower give to get ranked no. 1? Australia had 3 batsmen in the top 10 & 2 bowlers in the top 10. :eek:

If you've ever gone and seen Andy Flower play like I have, you'd understand why. He's a phenomenally talented player with an average of 56+ and a great ambassador for his country, since he's played every single match since Zimbabwe established a national team.

I was happy with the rankings, particularly with Gilchrist getting the recognition he deserves. It shows an inherent weakness in the Australian top/middle order, though.

Australia 8dec/558, Ponting 157no.

[Y2C]

It just caught me by surprise that he was on the list, because of the fact that he plays for such a low-profile cricketing nation. I wonder if his average would be up there if Zimbabwe played Australia more often in Test matches.

[msmsammo]

I am the hundreth person to reply to this thread?

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie OI OI OI

[Aussie_Outlaw]

And what a great post it was.

Andy Flowers Average is 56.60 if you didn't know.

[Black Eagle]

Since Zimbabwe still don't have a full year of Cricket fixtures, Andy Flower has done very very well to get as far as he has.
For someone who plays in a weak side, he has done tremendous.
In the Australian side, you have good bats all around who will support you and stay out in the middle with you 9 times out of 10....but with Zimbabwe, they arn't the best nation out there and sometimes they struggle to make runs.

Another reason why Flower is where he is, is that there is no money in Zimbabwe. Soccer is the most prodominate sport over there, and the loyalty that he has shown is second to none. While other players like Johnson (world cup hero), Murray Goodwin have moved countries because there is more money over seas

Flower deserves his high ranking, and i'm sure if he played more test matches against countries like Australia, then he would improve even more!

[bulldogfan]

i missed the bowling top ten would someone be able to post who was in it am i close with my 8

mcgrath
pollock
warne
cairns?
murilitharan
gough?
streak?
gillespie

[Y2C]

Well I think having Zimbabwe play games against Zimbabwe will only improve the players, as they will gain match practise against top quality sides. I think they only play one test match against us every four years.

btw, NZ are 1/30
Bell ct Gilchrist b Warne 4

[bulldogfan]

why is it that wherever the test is being played people cant watch the whole days play instead of just the last session on TV is it to do with people rather watching it at home so noone will go to the game

NZ 1/52

M.Sinclair 22
M.Richardson 23

[Y2C]

Originally posted by bulldogfan
why is it that wherever the test is being played people cant watch the whole days play instead of just the last session on TV is it to do with people rather watching it at home so noone will go to the game

NZ 1/52

M.Sinclair 22
M.Richardson 23

Yeah, for those that are living in the main city of where the test is being played (My grandparents live outside Melbourne and they get the Boxing Day test live). They only show the game live if it is an absolule sell-out, which really sucks because that rarely happens at the MCG.

How come they always show games at stadiums like the SCG live, but when you see it on tv there are plenty of seats vacant? :confused:

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Y2C


Yeah, for those that are living in the main city of where the test is being played (My grandparents live outside Melbourne and they get the Boxing Day test live). They only show the game live if it is an absolule sell-out, which really sucks because that rarely happens at the MCG.

How come they always show games at stadiums like the SCG live, but when you see it on tv there are plenty of seats vacant? :confused:

Um, because you live in Melbourne. What's the point of not showing a full day's play at the SCG? To entice you to drive for 12 hours up to Sydney? It works the other way, Sydney gets the MCG tests uninterrupted whether it's a sell-out or not.

[Y2C]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi


Um, because you live in Melbourne. What's the point of not showing a full day's play at the SCG? To entice you to drive for 12 hours up to Sydney? It works the other way, Sydney gets the MCG tests uninterrupted whether it's a sell-out or not.

I think I didn't make my point clear enough to you :o. Sorry 'bout that.

What I meant was that they show in live IN SYDNEY when there are 35,000 in their 40,000 seat staduim, compared to when there's 65-70,000 at the MCG, but they refuse to show it on TV in Melbourne.

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Y2C


I think I didn't make my point clear enough to you :o. Sorry 'bout that.

What I meant was that they show in live IN SYDNEY when there are 35,000 in their 40,000 seat staduim, compared to when there's 65-70,000 at the MCG, but they refuse to show it on TV in Melbourne.

Oh, I gotcha now. Yeah, I'm not a big fan of the telecast rules either. It is unfair and even when the ground was technically sold out, I've rarely seen Channel 9 begin broadcasting a game. Meh, another reason Sydney kicks Melbourne's ass. :D

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi


Oh, I gotcha now. Yeah, I'm not a big fan of the telecast rules either. It is unfair and even when the ground was technically sold out, I've rarely seen Channel 9 begin broadcasting a game. Meh, another reason Sydney kicks Melbourne's ass. :D

:lol:

Great to see you are trying to remain up beat and positive, even though we know that sydney water is in fact killing you as I type this!
We get shit coverage of the cricket when it is played in melbourne.....but my solution: Don't be a tight arse, go to the game and watch it in full! Easy really

[kore_terminator]

It is quite annoying when the games are shown live from sell outs from around australia, all but victoria, i dont know the last time 94,000 went to see the cricket (actually it might have been the World Cup final in 92), but at the least they should have a cuttoff mark of about 80,000 in which once this is met, they should show the game live.

The sellout marks for the other grounds are like 40,000 (SCG), 30,000 approx (Adelade Oval), 25,000 (GABBA), 15,000 (tasmania, which is about the amount of ppl that get kicked out of a one dayer at the MCG), and the majority of one dayers are shown live in their respective states.

Ill be going to the cricket this year, and here's hoping im not one of 15,000 (slightly exagerated of course) who gets kicked out.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Will the Weather ever make its mind up and stay sunny for a full day?
I'm getting sick of all these half-days of cricket.

Now onto more pressing matters.
The match between South Africa and India has lost its test status since a few days ago. Why you ask, well because half of the Indian team were suspended from cricket but they decided to play the next match anyway. South Africa agreed to this but the ICC (International Cricket Council) did not.

They revoked the match of its test status and it will not be included in any records. South Africa and India both see it as a proper "test" and will continue to play as well as write it up as a proper match and will be included in the history books.

All the other cricket-playing countries (Australia, England etc) have all sided with the ICC as it is incorrect to disobey the rules of ones governing body. Pakistan however is still sitting on the fence. Pakistan and India both see this as an attack on Asian cricket playing nations. They see that the ICC has a bias against their countries for reasons such as their players have suspended sentences (Sachin Tendulka) while other players get off Scot free while committing the same offence (Shawn Pollock).

I feel that the Indian and Pakistan Cricket boards are full of shit.

They need to look at their own history just to see why the ICC comes down hard on them. They need to clean up their own act before they go and start spouting shit how the ICC is biased.
They have done exactly the wrong thing by immediately going around the current sentences imposed by the ICC on the Indian team, they should wear the sentences handed down, move on and try and pick their own reputation out of the gutter.

As we all know India and Pakistan are two of the countries at the center of the Match Fixing Scandal, with John the Bookie and numerous underworld types. They have natural resentment towards the ICC when really they should resent the people of their own country for getting them into the mess they are in.

What I say should happen (but won't) is that the ICC should give the match being played between the Indians and South Africa back its test match status on the guarantee the Indian side will sit their suspended players out in the next test against England.





Parcheesi I don't think you do know the full effect of the TV rights in cricket matches, with yourself being a member of Sydney you get 75% of games played at the SCG on the TV live starting at 10:50am. With us poor old sods down here in Melbourne with a ground with the capacity of 70,000 it is never full. We get no cricket matches live into the city. The only matches that it fills ever is Grand Finals, major AFL matches and Half-Decent soccer matches. With your pithy ground capacity of 40,000 it is filled most one-day matches and major test matches.

As for the games which are "sold out" but there are many seats in the crowd still empty. The seats in question would most likely have been sold to companies who will not sit in the seats, or will be sold to businessmen. Because many of these games fall on weekdays people still work until 5pm. They will turn up to the game between innings and watch the second half of the game.

[kore_terminator]

The test match b/w India and South Africa is only going to be played for one reason : Money

It is this reason that is killing and corrupting the game of cricket. All these match fixing scandels have originated from Asian countries, and its no wonder that Pakistan and India feel that they are hard done by, they are generally the cause of this.

The ICC needs to play hard ball with teams who are ruining the game. The money earnt for this 'unofficial' match should go to a charity, to prove to the world that their love is for the game, and not the money.

And as for these half days, it seems that it is only the weather that will be a major deterant to the aussies this summer.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by kore_terminator
The test match b/w India and South Africa is only going to be played for one reason : Money

It is this reason that is killing and corrupting the game of cricket. All these match fixing scandels have originated from Asian countries, and its no wonder that Pakistan and India feel that they are hard done by, they are generally the cause of this.

The ICC needs to play hard ball with teams who are ruining the game. The money earnt for this 'unofficial' match should go to a charity, to prove to the world that their love is for the game, and not the money.

And as for these half days, it seems that it is only the weather that will be a major deterant to the aussies this summer.

Do you think the reason they corrupt the game by making money the only objective, is because apart from Tendulkar, most players are on a low salary?

In Australia, the majority of players are pulling in roughly 300,000 from the ACB and that's not including sponsorships. Yet the average indian/Pakistani/Sri Lankan are lucky to get 80,000 from their Cricket board.
Money is scarce in those countries, and yes, Cricket is a popular sport, but like Zimbabwe, there is no money to make from the game unless your last name is Tendulkar or you take money from the opposition

[kore_terminator]

Originally posted by Black Eagle


Do you think the reason they corrupt the game by making money the only objective, is because apart from Tendulkar, most players are on a low salary?

In Australia, the majority of players are pulling in roughly 300,000 from the ACB and that's not including sponsorships. Yet the average indian/Pakistani/Sri Lankan are lucky to get 80,000 from their Cricket board.
Money is scarce in those countries, and yes, Cricket is a popular sport, but like Zimbabwe, there is no money to make from the game unless your last name is Tendulkar or you take money from the opposition



For a game that is seen as a national game in India, it is a disgrace that for them to be played for what they are worth, they have to resort to corrupt matters to put food on the table. These cricket players are seen as Gods in India, Sri Lanka etc and when they are on top, they are treated like Gods. The 1996 World Cup victory by Sri Lanka prompted the whole country to reward those 12 players. When they disgraced their country a few years later in the next world cup, they were probably lucky not to be killed.


I know in Zimbabwe the players are almost part time cricketers who hold down full time jobs, but these guys are playing, without the controversy that these other countries supply for the cricket world. Even though they are in an almost 3rd world country, there is rarly disruptions when they play.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by kore_terminator


For a game that is seen as a national game in India, it is a disgrace that for them to be played for what they are worth, they have to resort to corrupt matters to put food on the table. These cricket players are seen as Gods in India, Sri Lanka etc and when they are on top, they are treated like Gods. The 1996 World Cup victory by Sri Lanka prompted the whole country to reward those 12 players. When they disgraced their country a few years later in the next world cup, they were probably lucky not to be killed.


I know in Zimbabwe the players are almost part time cricketers who hold down full time jobs, but these guys are playing, without the controversy that these other countries supply for the cricket world. Even though they are in an almost 3rd world country, there is rarly disruptions when they play.

Good point buddy.

Like you said, when on top, Sri Lankan players are treated as gods. But when they have a lean trot, the public are seen burning pictures of the coach or captain. They are mad cricket supporters, but can't be good for their own country.

Like i said in another thread somwhere, a few players have left Zimbabwe, because there just isn't money. How can they expect to be on the road most of the year, and get paid fuck all?
Names like, Johnson, Hick and Goodwin have all made careers else where

[Aussie Ando]

Ok....Australia are the guru's of cricket and everybody knows that......My mate Black Eagle also agrees with me.....They are the yardstick for the rest of the teams in the world....and they will never get close....

[connorboy]

I'm going to see cricket on the 5th and 6th of september 2002. England Vs India @ the amp oval.

p.s. the best ever county cricket team ESSEX

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by connorboy
I'm going to see cricket on the 5th and 6th of september 2002. England Vs India @ the amp oval.

p.s. the best ever county cricket team ESSEX

Essex?

Sorry, i don't agree. Yorkshire have produced a fair amout of talented guys i.e gough, Silverwood, Boycott, Dickie Bird. Also Lancashire also have become one of the most powerful sides in England

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Back to more homely matters.
Today is the last day of the 2nd test.
I can't see a result happening even tho that won't stop Stephen Fleming continue playing the boring brand of cricket NZ plays.

With the first 2 tests rained out (Brisbane and Hobart) and only one left in this series (Perth) the rain will have to disppear otherwise Australia has been jibbed of another Series win.

However if the rain goes away in Perth Australia should win easily with at least half a day to go.

Lets hope it doesn't rain and we get a fast and hard wicket over there in Perth. So Bret Lee can remove Chris Caines' head.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Stephen Fleming Out for 71 off the first ball of play.

15 wickets to go
7 hours to go

Which will come first?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Gillespie Bowled MacMillian for 55

14 wickets to go
6hr 38 min to go

Who will win?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Cairnes Caught Gilchrist bowled McGrath for 25

13 wickets to go
6hrs 30min to go

Another Wicket, we're getting there.
If we can get 3 before 1pm, we've got a major chance at winning.

[Matt B]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw

6hr 38 min to go



And people complain that baseball is slow??

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Yes but cricket is a timed game 90 overs a day which takes from 11am till 6pm.
And 5 days play which equals about 35 hours.

I'v never heard anyone complain about baseball being slow anyway.

It's raining (well its about to). BASTARDS, we're gonna lose a half-a-day's play. Well that ruins our chance of winning.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Now it's started raining, according to my sources, it'll rain for awhhile.
Rain Rain go Away come again another day.

Australia can't afford to have it raining for any part of the day, time is vital.
The covers are on so they won't be playing for about an hour.

Well I guess thats game Over.

[Aussie Ando]

Yeah...the cricket is done for I think....Damn it...We were really going to pump the New Zealanders....

[Webbicho]

How long since Australia lost?

[Aussie Ando]

Well...they lost on their last tour to India....Which was a vwery hard tour.....But in Australia...It has been a very long time....I think the last ones to do it were the South Africans...there have been some draws too...

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Are you talking about a series or a match because the last time we lost a series was back in India where we lost that series and a match.

But we had a 12 match winning streak at home which was shattered when we drew against NZ in QLD.

[kore_terminator]

Originally posted by Webbicho
How long since Australia lost?

We had our run of 15/14 tests straight ended I believe early this year when they toured India. We won the first test but managed to still lose the series. We also had a run of 22 games without a draw but with the rain costing us the last 2 tests, we have had 2 straight draws, judging by how todays game is going to end.

[Webbicho]

So r we still on top but? Last I knew we ruled the cricket world, do we still?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Well Webbicho we are still on top of the world due to natural Elimination and the fact we hold all the silverware back home (cept for the ashes but we hold them in spirit)
England (haha sure)
India (have problems with the ICC0
NZ (we're dominating them now)
SA (yep sure)
Zim (no way)
Pakistan (perhaps but no)

Thats the major ones, all eliminated and so we're number 1.

[kore_terminator]

The only thing stopping Australia at the current moment is the lack of sunshine when we are in a perfect position to win. Twice already rain has cost us a chance of absolutly humiliating the kiwis. In this current test, there is no doubt that rain has cost us a victory, which would have been at least and innings and a packet of runs.

[Black Eagle]

Well with the perth test wrapping up the series between australia and new zealand, we are bound to get a result. Because perth is a hotter place, and the pitch is worldly known as a pacemen's wicket.
So with that in mind, would you go into the test with an unchanged line up? Or include another pacemen?

My side for the 3rd and final test:

Hayden
Langer
Ponting
M.Waugh
S.Waugh
Gilchrist
Warne
lee
Gillespie
Noffke
McGrath

[Aussie_Outlaw]

My side for Perth would be
Hayden
Langer
Ponting
M. Waugh
S. Waugh
Gilchrist
Warne
B. Lee
Gillespie
Bichel
McGrath

I don't think Noffke should be in for such an important test, give the ball to a more experienced bowler.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
My side for Perth would be
Hayden
Langer
Ponting
M. Waugh
S. Waugh
Gilchrist
Warne
B. Lee
Gillespie
Bichel
McGrath

I don't think Noffke should be in for such an important test, give the ball to a more experienced bowler.

Fuck Bichel

He is past it, done nothing, and will continue to do nothing. But seriously, would you consider using Miller? Cause then you have another pace and spin option. And the bounce of the wacca pitch will suit his offies

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by Black Eagle
Fuck Bichel
He is past it, done nothing, and will continue to do nothing. But seriously, would you consider using Miller? Cause then you have another pace and spin option. And the bounce of the wacca pitch will suit his offies


Miller, hmm thats not a bad idea, the selectors dont really like him so I can't see him making the cut though, maybe 12th man.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw


Miller, hmm thats not a bad idea, the selectors dont really like him so I can't see him making the cut though, maybe 12th man.

It depends on who is in form. The selectors will probably go with that dud from sydney

ohh it hurts to say that name

bra....

brack.......

nah sorry i can't say it, he is too shit for a mention

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Bracken?
Yeah that'd be him, well the NSW bias kicks in if they do choose him.

[kore_terminator]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw


Miller, hmm thats not a bad idea, the selectors dont really like him so I can't see him making the cut though, maybe 12th man.

The man won the test player of the year last year, and these days he cannot even get into his state team (Victoria). The man can bowl both spin and medium pace, although it will be a shock if he is included in the third test, as it may be Martin who is dropped for the extra paceman.

Other than that, i doubt that the test lineup will be changed, as the Australians are a class above the Kiwis.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I think thats what Rhys and I said, a paceman for Martyn. I just said Bichel and he said Noffke, who do you think?

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by kore_terminator


The man won the test player of the year last year, and these days he cannot even get into his state team (Victoria). The man can bowl both spin and medium pace, although it will be a shock if he is included in the third test, as it may be Martin who is dropped for the extra paceman.

Other than that, i doubt that the test lineup will be changed, as the Australians are a class above the Kiwis.

martyn will be the scapegoat. While he hasn't had that bad of a run lately, he will be dropped for the extra pacemen if they decide to go that way.

Why?

Simply because, you cannot drop the waugh twins. They are too good to flick of for a pacemen. While Mark hasn't made runs, you know he will make a big score sometime soon. Also Ponting just made a ton, so therefore must stay

And with Gilchrist used as a batsman anyways, martyn could be carrying the drinks for the 3rd test

[kore_terminator]

My pick for the paceman spot would have to be Bracken, the selectors picked him last year for the one-dayers with little fan fare, and he also got a free trip to England for the Ashes. There are numerous other bowlers that could be picked, but as a NSW boy, how can you go by the bias nature of the selectors.

The current members of NSW in the Test team range from Steve Waugh (Captain), Mark Waugh, Glenn McGrath, Brett Lee, and it is the up and comers from NSW who usually get first go at the national team.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by kore_terminator
My pick for the paceman spot would have to be Bracken, the selectors picked him last year for the one-dayers with little fan fare, and he also got a free trip to England for the Ashes. There are numerous other bowlers that could be picked, but as a NSW boy, how can you go by the bias nature of the selectors.

The current members of NSW in the Test team range from Steve Waugh (Captain), Mark Waugh, Glenn McGrath, Brett Lee, and it is the up and comers from NSW who usually get first go at the national team.

I wouldn't be suprised if Bracken pleaded with the selectors to allow his name to be included in the list. He payed his own way, sat in coach and sat on the boundary while the aussie team competed for the ashes

the man is a dud

[Aussie Ando]

Personally I would like to see this team line up in the near future....

Matt Hayden
Justin Langer
Ricky Ponting
Darren Leahman
Mark Waugh
Steve Waugh
Adam Gilchrist
Shane Warne
Jason Gillespie
Nathan Bracken
Glenn McGrath

12th man......Brett Lee or Colin Miller..

But I cant see this happening very quickly!!!

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by Aussie Ando
Personally I would like to see this team line up in the near future....

Matt Hayden
Justin Langer
Ricky Ponting
Darren Leahman
Mark Waugh
Steve Waugh
Adam Gilchrist
Shane Warne
Jason Gillespie
Nathan Bracken
Glenn McGrath

12th man......Brett Lee or Colin Miller..

But I cant see this happening very quickly!!!

I agree that Lehmann should be there, but he has been given too many chances. Didn't make enough runs for australia, but now is proabably the best bat currently in the pura milk cup!

Bracken isn't good enough. Simple as that. lee is quick, intimidating and should be there full stop

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Rhys don't worry about Ando, he doesn't know much.
It's as if he's never even seen a game of cricket let alone played the game.
Lets ignore him

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
Rhys don't worry about Ando, he doesn't know much.
It's as if he's never even seen a game of cricket let alone played the game.
Lets ignore him

Nah, can't do that. He knows a few things that he could use against me

i.e say shit about my gf, he could start saying shit about her

but he knows it aint a good thing

[kore_terminator]

The problem with Lee in the third test, will be if noone tells him to not bowl fast, he will only try to get the magical 160km/h mark, without aiming to get the guy out, much like that Paki guy did a few years ago.

The team should feature 6 batters and 5 bowlers, with Gilly in as the 6th batter. I do not see the New Zealander bowlers having a chance at bowling Australia out, has Glenn McGrath even had a bat this series?

Updated Cricket Scores: Rain has defeated Australia again, whilst NZ has done an great job in filling in when Rain hasnt been avaliable.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by kore_terminator
The problem with Lee in the third test, will be if noone tells him to not bowl fast, he will only try to get the magical 160km/h mark, without aiming to get the guy out, much like that Paki guy did a few years ago.

The team should feature 6 batters and 5 bowlers, with Gilly in as the 6th batter. I do not see the New Zealander bowlers having a chance at bowling Australia out, has Glenn McGrath even had a bat this series?

Updated Cricket Scores: Rain has defeated Australia again, whilst NZ has done an great job in filling in when Rain hasnt been avaliable.

Surely though, Lee isn't that superficial to try to break the record. not only is he quick, but he is a damn good bowler. No, i don't think he will plainly go for the record, if he bowls normally and has a good day, then yes - he will break thommo's record of 160 k

Good call about NZ though!! But this bloody rain is pissing me of. But we are still showing how dominate we are. If rain had of held of for the full 5 days, we would have won the match in under the alloted time.

no questions asked

[squizza]

Fucking hell, the rain is really startinf to piss me off right now. Now two test matches have been washed out by the fucking rain. The next game should be good coz i dont reckon that there will be much rain in WA.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

With the next test starting this Thursday there will probably not be much change to the side.

But its good to see tests running back to back, it gives me an excuse not to do anything this weekend (not that I would have done anything anyway).

But still, I am HOPEING that it will be a match and not clips from old early 90's matches, as much as I love to see Taylor,Boon, Healy and all the boys, I would rather see today's cricketers.
They're not being paid 1 million dollars to sit in the dressing rooms playing cards, smoking and betting on the horses. (Can't forget making obscene calls).

If it does rain I want to see Them playing in the rain, even if NZ doesn't show, they play and bowl them out in 10 balls (Lee with still bowl no-balls probably).

PLAY IN THE RAIN. I wanna see it happen.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
With the next test starting this Thursday there will probably not be much change to the side.

But its good to see tests running back to back, it gives me an excuse not to do anything this weekend (not that I would have done anything anyway).

But still, I am HOPEING that it will be a match and not clips from old early 90's matches, as much as I love to see Taylor,Boon, Healy and all the boys, I would rather see today's cricketers.
They're not being paid 1 million dollars to sit in the dressing rooms playing cards, smoking and betting on the horses. (Can't forget making obscene calls).

If it does rain I want to see Them playing in the rain, even if NZ doesn't show, they play and bowl them out in 10 balls (Lee with still bowl no-balls probably).

PLAY IN THE RAIN. I wanna see it happen.


Who's getting paid a mil?

They should do some cover slides. Always good fun when it's raining. Either that or a full soccer game out in the middle.......seems to pass the time for us!

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by Black Eagle
Who's getting paid a mil?
They should do some cover slides. Always good fun when it's raining. Either that or a full soccer game out in the middle.......seems to pass the time for us!

With the Mill I was reffering to the players contracts and endorsements. Warney would easily pull a Million a year.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw


With the Mill I was reffering to the players contracts and endorsements. Warney would easily pull a Million a year.

Yes, if you include endorsments as well, then there are many million dollar cricketers

Steve Waugh is getting 300 K a year from MRF!

They are getting 10,000 a test, 8000 a onedayer

they also get bonuses if they win, plus man of the match awards

So basically, in a few years time, with the increase of match payments, we will see the first million dollar contract!

adding sposorships and you have a sport that is on the incline to make a lot of money

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Well Rhys as I said there are a few 1 million dollar cricketers.
With all the bad cricket commericals like Steve Waugh's Orange Phone one.
Now that is a stupid commerical.
But still he probably got paid a few thousand bucks to be in their commericals.

Still They do nothing, play cricket and do what you're supposed to fellas.

[Pete Cash]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
Well Rhys as I said there are a few 1 million dollar cricketers.
With all the bad cricket commericals like Steve Waugh's Orange Phone one.
Now that is a stupid commerical.
But still he probably got paid a few thousand bucks to be in their commericals.

Still They do nothing, play cricket and do what you're supposed to fellas.

I think the guiness book of records has Sachin Tendulkar listed as the top money earner in the cricket world.

He makes a couple of million

Cricketers don't really make the same money as some other sports stars.

[Reeks of Awesomeness]

How can a little animal like that, make millions? How much do the best bees make?

[kore_terminator]

First of all.....


Originally posted by Reeks of Awesomeness
How can a little animal like that, make millions? How much do the best bees make?

Im sorry, ive got absolutly no idea on what you mean. Although ive heard that the best bees make good honey:wtf:

Ok back to more pressing issues:

The next test starts tomorrow (Friday) at WACA. Hopefully we will see 5 days of cricket and not 5 days of old pre 94 replays of Australia still laying the smackdown on the Kiwis. Is this match going to be a contest? The Australian batting has been a class (probably 2 classes) over the Kiwis, and I doubt that the kiwis will have the firepower to bowl us out.

Although, one small screwup (like an entire days play) may see Australia lose the test, and the series.:eek:

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
Well Rhys as I said there are a few 1 million dollar cricketers.
With all the bad cricket commericals like Steve Waugh's Orange Phone one.
Now that is a stupid commerical.
But still he probably got paid a few thousand bucks to be in their commericals.

Still They do nothing, play cricket and do what you're supposed to fellas.

Now, that is a sad commercial. Gotta be a NSW director. Cause since when does Bevan play tests :wtf:

Also, WTF is bevan batting before Steve? Shit add. Obviously they didn't do their research. Anyways, there is no point to the add, like when would the captain of australia play cards while his team are going down like flies?


Originally posted by kore_terminator

Ok back to more pressing issues:

The next test starts tomorrow (Friday) at WACA. Hopefully we will see 5 days of cricket and not 5 days of old pre 94 replays of Australia still laying the smackdown on the Kiwis. Is this match going to be a contest? The Australian batting has been a class (probably 2 classes) over the Kiwis, and I doubt that the kiwis will have the firepower to bowl us out.

Although, one small screwup (like an entire days play) may see Australia lose the test, and the series.:eek:

Havn't seen the weather report for Perth, but like everyone is wishing, hopefully we see the sun out for all the 5 days.

But wouldn't it be a sad event if New Zealand some how win this match. They would take the series because they would play maybe one good day better then us out of a possible 15. Crap thought

[Moz]

Originally posted by Reeks of Awesomeness
How can a little animal like that, make millions? How much do the best bees make?

It's cause he's the biggest sports-star in a country with a population of over a billion. Since he's the biggest circketer in India, a circket-loving nation, he' got advertisement deals everywhere. He's what David Beckham or Michael Owen is to England , but only much much much bigger. I should know, I had to watch crap Indian TV, for around 4 years ( got it on satellite when residing in Pakistan), and the sports was Sachin this and Sachin that. Really they hype on the guy is loads. There was even this teenage girl who killed herself when she found he was injured or something. I think that's the story, but I'm not 100%. He probably just get loads for sponsorship and advertising.

For example, Indian tyre company MRF (who are making the jump to F1 soon), paid him jsut to stick a sticker on his bat.

There's too much hysteria over there, plus everyone knows Inzamam is the greatest :D

[kore_terminator]

Originally posted by Black Eagle

But wouldn't it be a sad event if New Zealand some how win this match. They would take the series because they would play maybe one good day better then us out of a possible 15. Crap thought



If the Kiwis somehow steal this test, this will go down as the greatest upset in recent times. They have shown me that even with the test match given to them on a silver platter (first test) they still couldnt make it. They had nothing to lose, and with 5 overs left in that match I was generally worried that Cairns and McMillan (sp) were going to steal the test.

I would like to see a repeat of the Australian batting effort from the first innings of the 2nd test, where the run rate ended up being around 4.5 (per over).

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by Mo


It's cause he's the biggest sports-star in a country with a population of over a billion. Since he's the biggest circketer in India, a circket-loving nation, he' got advertisement deals everywhere. He's what David Beckham or Michael Owen is to England , but only much much much bigger. I should know, I had to watch crap Indian TV, for around 4 years ( got it on satellite when residing in Pakistan), and the sports was Sachin this and Sachin that. Really they hype on the guy is loads. There was even this teenage girl who killed herself when she found he was injured or something. I think that's the story, but I'm not 100%. He probably just get loads for sponsorship and advertising.

For example, Indian tyre company MRF (who are making the jump to F1 soon), paid him jsut to stick a sticker on his bat.

There's too much hysteria over there, plus everyone knows Inzamam is the greatest :D

Don't you think that Tendulkar deserves this? He played his first game of test cricket at the age of 16, and is, without arguement the greatest batsman i have ever seen. I tried to model my technique around his, thats how much influence his career has on mine.

I have many tapes of just him batting, and watch it all the time. I think he hs justified the reasons for getting so much money.

Also, MRF have branched out internationally and are now sponsoring the australian captain Steve Waugh. I think Tendulkar and Waugh are one and two on the rankings respectively, so obviously MRF are getting serious in the cricket sponsoring area!

P.S Inzamam is shite......slow worthless piece of crap :D

[kore_terminator]

Originally posted by Mo


It's cause he's the biggest sports-star in a country with a population of over a billion. Since he's the biggest circketer in India, a circket-loving nation, he' got advertisement deals everywhere. He's what David Beckham or Michael Owen is to England , but only much much much bigger. I should know, I had to watch crap Indian TV, for around 4 years ( got it on satellite when residing in Pakistan), and the sports was Sachin this and Sachin that. Really they hype on the guy is loads. There was even this teenage girl who killed herself when she found he was injured or something. I think that's the story, but I'm not 100%. He probably just get loads for sponsorship and advertising.

For example, Indian tyre company MRF (who are making the jump to F1 soon), paid him jsut to stick a sticker on his bat.

There's too much hysteria over there, plus everyone knows Inzamam is the greatest :D

This does not surprise me. Even Steve Waugh is considered a God in India, but that may be because of his charity work. The guy (Sachin) is a little dynamo, and in Australia he would be making the equivalent to what Warne makes in earnings, and he would be seen as a great sportsman. It seems in India that he carries the hopes and dreams for a whole country and its inevitable that when he gets into trouble, there is about a billion people making trouble because of it.

Its no wonder that after these problems with the ball tampering, that there is a huge uproar over it in India, and Pakistan aswell. About Inzamam, the guy is talent but Ive heard stuff about him chasing guys in the stadium whilst batting. Apparantly he was getting called something about being fat (no surprise there).

[Moz]

Originally posted by Black Eagle


Don't you think that Tendulkar deserves this? He played his first game of test cricket at the age of 16, and is, without arguement the greatest batsman i have ever seen. I tried to model my technique around his, thats how much influence his career has on mine.

I have many tapes of just him batting, and watch it all the time. I think he hs justified the reasons for getting so much money.

Also, MRF have branched out internationally and are now sponsoring the australian captain Steve Waugh. I think Tendulkar and Waugh are one and two on the rankings respectively, so obviously MRF are getting serious in the cricket sponsoring area!

P.S Inzamam is shite......slow worthless piece of crap :D


I never dissed Tendulkar, I'm just saying that Indian circketing public are really crazy about him. And he probably is the best batsmen on the planet right now bar Inzamam :D

And don't you go around dissing Inzamam, h may hate running but he's a class batsman when he feel likes it.

Plus he's no Pat Symcox. Pat Symcox is the greatest player of all time. Damn I had sky so I could hear him commentate.

[The Parcheesi]

Indians piss me off. I hope they get the death penalty.

Steve Waugh has promised to give the Kiwi batters a lot of bouncers off the hard WACA wicket. Good. I hope Vettori bats without a helmet so we can knock his glasses right off his little bitch face.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by Mo


I never dissed Tendulkar, I'm just saying that Indian circketing public are really crazy about him. And he probably is the best batsmen on the planet right now bar Inzamam :D

And don't you go around dissing Inzamam, h may hate running but he's a class batsman when he feel likes it.

Plus he's no Pat Symcox. Pat Symcox is the greatest player of all time. Damn I had sky so I could hear him commentate.

Pat Symcox has a great accent :D

Inzamam is shit. Of course he has a bit of talent, but when he can't run and is a selfish cricketer, then what's the use of him playing for his country?

The 3rd test between new zealand and Australia just began, but because bloody perth is on the other side of Australia, i gotta wait another 3 hours for channel 9 to begin their broadcast......soo shit

www.bagygreen.com.au here i come !!!

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Black Eagle

The 3rd test between new zealand and Australia just began, but because bloody perth is on the other side of Australia, i gotta wait another 3 hours for channel 9 to begin their broadcast......soo shit

www.bagygreen.com.au here i come !!!


Um... no, the test hasn't started yet. Perth is 3 hours behind us, remember? It's not a broadcast gap, its a time gap.
:wtf: :p

[kore_terminator]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi

Steve Waugh has promised to give the Kiwi batters a lot of bouncers off the hard WACA wicket. Good. I hope Vettori bats without a helmet so we can knock his glasses right off his little bitch face.


I cant wait to see New Zealand win the toss, elect to bat, and promtly gets bounced and knocked over for a small score BEFORE the miracle of Rain once again costs us the match.

[The Parcheesi]

Welp, there's a good crowd, looks like a good, hard wicket and it's nice and sunny.

*crosses fingers*

[The Parcheesi]

Mark Richardson clean bowled by Gillespie.

NZ 1/12

[The Parcheesi]

Matt Sinclair lbw McGrath for 2.

NZ 2/19

Is anyone here gunna buy the new Twelfth Man album?

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi
Matt Sinclair lbw McGrath for 2.

NZ 2/19

Is anyone here gunna buy the new Twelfth Man album?

Didn't know a new one was out :confused:

But I will as soon as it hits the shelf

Well, fucking news and ACA has ceased my cricket watching, but McGrath is of to hospital with back spasm. It's the first real injury that he has suffered from in the last few years.

Gillespie bowled with plenty of pace through out the day. The pitch is nice and hard, and only a few surface cracks, which is unlike Perth, because usually there are gaping cracks that come into play early on

So hopefully it lasts the full 5 days, and plays a bit of spin late in the 4th and into final day!

[bulldogfan]

NZ 3/236

Fleming:93*
Astle :12*

Vincent:104
Richardson:9
Sinclair:2

[kore_terminator]

Updated Scores at the close of day:

New Zealand 7 / 293 (90 overs)
Top Scores: Fleming 105, Vincent 104 (On debut)
Top Bowling: Gillespie 3 / 79

McGrath is reported to be at 90%, but seeing as the Kiwis pretty much blew a good 1st innings score (at one stage they were at 4/264), I cant see the kiwis making past 350, and hopefully the Aussies dont fall victim to the sudden collapse that New Zealand have suffered.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Well Look I'm back from my 3 days away from the computer.

Yes the twelfth man does have another album out called "The Final Dig" or sumthin like that. Out on the 5th

9 declared for 534. With the frist 2 days being taken away through slow batting by NZ I cannot see a result going in this test.
The Aussies will take 2 days to get 700, and then we only have a day to bowl them out again, may happen but I can't see it.


I still think the indians should be banned from cricket for a year just to sort them out.

Also ROA, thats a really bad joke, perhaps you should try and think of a decent joke next time.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

OK (Happy William?) with day 2 (yes Richie I know thats your favourite number) over the score is:

New Zealand 9d/534
Australia 2/75

M Waugh 5
J Langer 34

With Australia scoring at 5 an over we may have a result (a bit early to tell but who cares)

But Hayden and Ponting are already Out we should be alright, if we can settle into a rhythm tomorrow and score 400 in a day.
Currently we're on target to have 525 by the close of play tomorrow.

Lets wait and see how the game plays out.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
OK (Happy William?) with day 2 (yes Richie I know thats your favourite number) over the score is:

New Zealand 9d/534
Australia 2/75

M Waugh 5
J Langer 34

With Australia scoring at 5 an over we may have a result (a bit early to tell but who cares)

But Hayden and Ponting are already Out we should be alright, if we can settle into a rhythm tomorrow and score 400 in a day.
Currently we're on target to have 525 by the close of play tomorrow.

Lets wait and see how the game plays out.

Hayden played a terrible shot and was sent back for a duck. Ponting was very aggressive as usual and was out for 30 odd.

Langer looks solid and i think it's time for M.E. Waugh to step up and consolidate his spot in the side. He needs a big century just to put negative press thoughts about his retirement out the window.

Astle and Parore batted well for the kiwis, didn't see it ( cause i was playing myself), but from all reports, they dispatched anything the aussies threw at them. Looking at the replay, they were in tremendous form, a few balls were almost unplayable from the bowlers, yet the kiwi batsman were just too good!

It's very possible to make 400 on that deck. Langer is looking set and they are going at 5 an over like you pointed out dave. i don't rate the kiwi attack, and hopefully we see aggressive batting.

Australia might only make 400 and declare and force a result

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Black Eagle


Hayden played a terrible shot and was sent back for a duck.
Hayden got a duck?? He's fucked up for the last time. Drop him. Bring back Slater.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi

Hayden got a duck?? He's fucked up for the last time. Drop him. Bring back Slater.

Sacastic or not, you have bought up a good point that i was going to ask:

If Hayden or Langer go into a bad patch of form, i mean go a streak of tests failing........who would be bought up?

Blewett just made runs for SA
Elliot hasn't made anything all year
Slater - no idea what he's done
Then there is haddin, Hussy, Lehmann

Any thoughts?

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Black Eagle


Sacastic or not, you have bought up a good point that i was going to ask:

If Hayden or Langer go into a bad patch of form, i mean go a streak of tests failing........who would be bought up?

Blewett just made runs for SA
Elliot hasn't made anything all year
Slater - no idea what he's done
Then there is haddin, Hussy, Lehmann

Any thoughts?



You forgot Bevan.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi

You forgot Bevan.

Thats right, i forgot the main part of australia's mission statement for this summer.....lose as many tests as possible. That is why they would include Bevan

he's a hack. Your NSW bias is seeping through there bennyboy

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi

You forgot Bevan.

No Bevan is now considered an actor because he's be in more commercials than Tst matches, so now he's an actor.

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Black Eagle

he's a hack. Your NSW bias is seeping through there bennyboy
Oh sorry, did I forget this:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I was being ironical.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw


No Bevan is now considered an actor because he's be in more commercials than Tst matches, so now he's an actor.

A bad one at that

Shit add that Orange one

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi
Oh sorry, did I forget this:
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I was being ironical.

he's just a kid, he doesn't know what Irony is.

Remember the channel 9 / Perth thing, he's a bit slow our Rhys.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw


he's just a kid, he doesn't know what Irony is.

Remember the channel 9 / Perth thing, he's a bit slow our Rhys.

When did i suddenly become yours david? If i smell like fish, and you want to get away from me, then why do you continually want me around

Admit it david, you love me and can't get enough of me....it's why you came back online isn't it, to talk to me

you love me

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by Black Eagle
When did i suddenly become yours david? If i smell like fish, and you want to get away from me, then why do you continually want me around
Admit it david, you love me and can't get enough of me....it's why you came back online isn't it, to talk to me
you love me


You've always been my lacky, and the I only was away for such a small time because I had better things to do.

Also why hasn't anyone brought up Daimiya's recent attempt at removing the asian playing nations from the ICC and creating his own brand of cricket in an attempt to rule out test matches and further the one-day game subsequently creating millions of dollars for himself and his nations.

What do you think this whole India/SA thing is.

I'll write more later when I have more time, probably monday Sometime.

[kore_terminator]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw



Also why hasn't anyone brought up Daimiya's recent attempt at removing the asian playing nations from the ICC and creating his own brand of cricket in an attempt to rule out test matches and further the one-day game subsequently creating millions of dollars for himself and his nations.

What do you think this whole India/SA thing is.

I'll write more later when I have more time, probably monday Sometime.

It's time the ICC played hard ball with these money grabbing countries. It is common sense to play a stack of one dayers, thats where the money is today. It is this attitude shown by Daimiya to remove the asian nations on the basis of money that is tarnishing the great game of cricket.

This in effect has probably always been on the mind of Daimiya, and all he needed was an excuse to bring it to the attention of others. If these asian countries are divided from the ICC, it is going to affect everybody. With Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, Bangledesh making up the asian countries (There is probably more smaller countries waiting for test status, such at UBE, Kenya, etc) this leaves just England, Australia, West Indies, Zimbabwe, South Africa, New Zealand under ICC status.

This issue cannot be pushed under the carpet like so many things before it. Is it time for the ICC to push for respect from these asian countries?

[Webbicho]

Hahahahaha what a catch!

I love it!

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw


You've always been my lacky, and the I only was away for such a small time because I had better things to do.

Also why hasn't anyone brought up Daimiya's recent attempt at removing the asian playing nations from the ICC and creating his own brand of cricket in an attempt to rule out test matches and further the one-day game subsequently creating millions of dollars for himself and his nations.

What do you think this whole India/SA thing is.

I'll write more later when I have more time, probably monday Sometime.
The Indian cricket team have an ego problem. It's true, they are gods in their own country, and it's clearly gone to their heads. Muralitharan, Tendulkar, et al think they're all above the ICC? Well, I guess they just got a reality check. Whinging bastards.

PS: Oh man. I sympathise with Warney. I've been in that exact position before, caught on the boundary for 99. It's not a great feeling... ;)

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi
The Indian cricket team have an ego problem. It's true, they are gods in their own country, and it's clearly gone to their heads. Muralitharan, Tendulkar, et al think they're all above the ICC? Well, I guess they just got a reality check. Whinging bastards.

Parcheesi, sorry to make you look like an arse, but its a board level thing not the team thing, you'd better read up on whats going on before you say something else stupid.


Originally posted by The Parcheesi
PS: Oh man. I sympathise with Warney. I've been in that exact position before, caught on the boundary for 99. It's not a great feeling... ;)

Too late, and Parcheesi just to correct you again.
You were caugh in a different position so I hear, not 99 but 69, even though I hear 99 is more your style.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I forgot a score Update.

Warney went out for 99 and The Aussies passed the follow on.

On day 4 I'd expect the Aussies to rip through the NZ batting line up for 120 and the aussies can knock off 300 runs in 140 overs.


It will happen.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by kore_terminator


It's time the ICC played hard ball with these money grabbing countries. It is common sense to play a stack of one dayers, thats where the money is today. It is this attitude shown by Daimiya to remove the asian nations on the basis of money that is tarnishing the great game of cricket.

This in effect has probably always been on the mind of Daimiya, and all he needed was an excuse to bring it to the attention of others. If these asian countries are divided from the ICC, it is going to affect everybody. With Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, Bangledesh making up the asian countries (There is probably more smaller countries waiting for test status, such at UBE, Kenya, etc) this leaves just England, Australia, West Indies, Zimbabwe, South Africa, New Zealand under ICC status.

This issue cannot be pushed under the carpet like so many things before it. Is it time for the ICC to push for respect from these asian countries?

Playing a stack of one dayers, may increase the amount of tickets sold, and an increase of tv viewers, but the players themselves do not like one dayers.

It has been said many times publicly, that the australian team is sick of the shortened version of the game. Teams like India, Sri lanka and Pakistan are used to playing the pajama cricket because their boards prefer that, but in Australia, and England for that matter........the players have told the ACB and the ECB that they need to decrease the amount of one day cricket played. It's hard on their bodies, and the itinery and constant travelling between games is hard on families and their physical health.


Originally posted by The Parcheesi

The Indian cricket team have an ego problem. It's true, they are gods in their own country, and it's clearly gone to their heads. Muralitharan, Tendulkar, et al think they're all above the ICC? Well, I guess they just got a reality check. Whinging bastards.

PS: Oh man. I sympathise with Warney. I've been in that exact position before, caught on the boundary for 99. It's not a great feeling... ;)

When did Murali get traded to India?

Warney did bat well though. 99 or not, it's 99 runs closer to the kiwi target. It's a shame on a personal basis, but a great innings for his team and country

Can't say i've been in his situation, i've made 30 half centuries and 29 of them have been not out

[Aussie Ando]

Who here is shattered about Shane Warne missing 100..... I know I am a very shattered man....and I feel very sorry for him...

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by Aussie Ando
Who here is shattered about Shane Warne missing 100..... I know I am a very shattered man....and I feel very sorry for him...

You suck ando

hack

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Black Eagle
When did Murali get traded to India?
Yes yes, very good. You got me on a technicality. I was referring to the whole subcontinent, including India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka.

Originally posted by Aussie Outlaw:
Parcheesi, sorry to make you look like an arse, but its a board level thing not the team thing, you'd better read up on whats going on before you say something else stupid.
Dave, with respect... what the fuck are you on about?

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi

Dave, with respect... what the fuck are you on about?

Yeh i agree, didn't understand what he was banging on about.

Don't worry bout the technicality, we all make them from time to time :D

On other pressing matters: Victoria. What the fuck is going on? All out for 139 in the first dig and are 0/38 chasing Tassie's first innings total of over 500 odd!

Where do they go from here?

Need to delist players, inject new blood into the side?

ideas?

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Black Eagle

On other pressing matters: Victoria. What the fuck is going on? All out for 139 in the first dig and are 0/38 chasing Tassie's first innings total of over 500 odd!

Where do they go from here?

Need to delist players, inject new blood into the side?

ideas?
Bevan.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi

Bevan.

Victoria want to improve, not decrease in talent soo much that it disovles into another district side

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Black Eagle
Victoria want to improve, not decrease in talent soo much that it disovles into another district side
As if NSW would release the greatest player in the world anyway. Keep dreaming.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi

As if NSW would release the greatest player in the world anyway. Keep dreaming.

HAHAHHAHAHAHA

ohhh bennyboy, you make me laugh

Bevan is a dud, simple as that

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Black Eagle


HAHAHHAHAHAHA

ohhh bennyboy, you make me laugh

Bevan is a dud, simple as that


Do I detect a note of envy? Come out of the closet, Rhys. You're a NSW fanatic at heart.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi

Do I detect a note of envy? Come out of the closet, Rhys. You're a NSW fanatic at heart.

No, never have been and never will be. Victoria at heart buddy. Even though they are going through a rough patch at the moment, they will come out of it stronger and more defiant and the shield will come back down here in not too long

[kore_terminator]

:mad: :mad: :mad:

No not because Victoria suck, because I like most others are devistated at Warnie's missed 100. That guy who got the catch, Richardson I believe, better be the recipient of a hell of alot of bouncers tomorrow morning when he goes out to bat.

Even so, Warnie pretty much saved Australia from following on, which now the match seems destined to a tame draw, unless the captains repeat the situation of the first test where we had a great finish to a rain interupted test.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by kore_terminator
:mad: :mad: :mad:

No not because Victoria suck, because I like most others are devistated at Warnie's missed 100. That guy who got the catch, Richardson I believe, better be the recipient of a hell of alot of bouncers tomorrow morning when he goes out to bat.

Even so, Warnie pretty much saved Australia from following on, which now the match seems destined to a tame draw, unless the captains repeat the situation of the first test where we had a great finish to a rain interupted test.

I belive that New Zealand will leave Australia a little over 300 to get in the last day. You never know, we could see a suprise result by either side. If Australia get a few early wickets, and cease the run scoring, then they have a chance of over taking the kiwi's and taking out the series

[kore_terminator]

Originally posted by Black Eagle


I belive that New Zealand will leave Australia a little over 300 to get in the last day. You never know, we could see a suprise result by either side. If Australia get a few early wickets, and cease the run scoring, then they have a chance of over taking the kiwi's and taking out the series



Currently Australia is about 190 runs behind the kiwis. With two days left to play, I cant see Australia win, unless we get a heap of wickets tomorrow. I believe that we will have the same situation that we faced 2 years ago at Hobart - 365 runs to get, 1 and a half days to get it.

The one chance they have to beat Australia is to gain a lead of 400, and try to bowl the Aussies in one day. If it wasnt for Warnie, we would be batting again, and facing a defeat by the Kiwis. It makes me sick:barf: just thinking about it.

[Black Eagle]

Well it's crap when you think that New Zealand can walk out of the perth test with the trans tasman trophy after dominating maybe 5 days, where Australia was clearly the better side in the first two tests.

I don't think the kiwi bowlers are good enough to dismiss the aussies in under a day with pressure right on them. Sure we would have to bat all day and make runs, but they would need to bowl tightly or australia might make another escape like in Hobart!

[kore_terminator]

I posted this on page 7, just prior to the commencement of the 3rd Test:




Although, one small screwup (like an entire days play) may see Australia lose the test, and the series.:eek:

Did our bowling on the second day, ultimatly cost us a win? I was almost throwing the meat pie I was eating at the TV that day. One day and it cost us. The series will be decided on what happens tomorrow, and after the shallacking (if that is a word) that our bowlers got in the first innings, Ive got a feeling that the Aussies will be on the attack from the word GO.

With the South Africans coming soon after the conclusion of the third test, the big news is that 'White Lightning' Allen Donald may not be fit for the first test. If this is true, the Australian openers can be gratefull that they can be spared a beating.

[The Parcheesi]

New Zealand Player of the Series: Mr Precipitation.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

OK Fellas it seems you don't pay much attention to World Cricket, just the local tours. Let me explain,

There is a major suspicion that Jagmohan Dalmiya (Indian Cricket Board) wants to convert cricket into a series of ome-day internationals to be televised world-wide. His links with major Asian television networks and the profits those generate from international networking is well known (not to you guys it seems).
While Australia and England, in particular want to promote tests, Asian countries have all bit abandoned the five-day contests to concerntrate on limited over games.
Dalmiya is slowly splitting away from the ICC and taking alot of Asian playing countries with him (Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Kenya, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Pakistan).
Hi goal is to use these teams in the one-day internationals and create a windfall of hundreds of millions of dollars or perhaps billions.
The only way to achieve his goal os to break from the inderpendant television contracts with the International Cricket Council.

So far Dalmiya has used his influence to force the scheduled third test against South Africa to be played outside the ICC rules.
His actions which threatened South Africa with the loss of $2.5 million in TV rights if the match did not proceed gained poitical intervention from the South African government, which has considerable trade dealings with India.
The result was that the Match Referee Mike Denness was replaced by South African Denis Lindsay.

Dalmiya refused to accet the decisions handed down by Denness from the previous test that 6 Indian players were to be penilised for various misdemeanours.
The fact that one of the culprits, Virender Selwag, who as suspended for excessive appealing who was reported by two umpires and then suspended by Denness seemingly was not a consideration.
One of the umpires was South African and the other was from Zimbabwe, yet Dalmyia raisedinnuendo of racial discrimination all of which was directed at Denness.

A test cannot be staged without the ICC approved, inderpendant umpire and the ICC apointed, inderpendant match-referee. The removal of Denness as match referee ensured the third match in the series no longer had test status. The smokescreen of enlisting an ICC referee, Lindsay was irrelevant. He was not inderpendant, being a South African.

The only problem is now England have said that they will pull out of their current series in India which would create a massive hole in the financial side of the Indian Board. If Selwag does play England won't tour. If selway doesn't play Indian would have fallen to the ICC.

He's at a cross-road and doesn't know what to do.

His major option is to drop out of ICC juristiction and take alot of the Asian countries with him.
Create an Asian tournament which throws the world cup (South Africa 2003 and West Indies 2007) into disarray.

We'll just have to wait and watch who jumps next.

Well is that enough for you guys?

[kore_terminator]

In response to Aussie_Outlaw, the game of cricket has essentially turned into a big money grabber for countries willing to put the dollar in front of tradition, and the ICC. Essentially, the asian countries would rather play a huge set of one dayers. The ICC MUST put the foot down if they are to keep this issue down pat. The threat is real if Damilya does get the approval from all the neighbouring teams to break away.

I doubt that this threat will go all the way. Even though the money that would be made would be greater than it would be in the ICC, the traditionalists of the game would be up in arms over a split in the world of cricket.

SCORE UPDATE:
NEw Zealand 2nd Innings 1 for 77, lead of 260
Vincent out for 54 caught M Waugh Bowled Lee

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by kore_terminator
The threat is real if Damilya does get the approval from all the neighbouring teams to break away.

I doubt that this threat will go all the way. Even though the money that would be made would be greater than it would be in the ICC, the traditionalists of the game would be up in arms over a split in the world of cricket.


Lets have a look, he has the backing of:
Bangladesh (India funds them heavily)
Sri Lanka (Their geographic location)
South Africa (Strong ties and the fact they're not in flavour with the ICC)
Zimbabwe (Strong links with India)
Kenya (Strong links with India)

Thats 6 of the 11 ICC countries.

Only Australia, New Zealand and England are pure ICC Countries.

West Indies and Pakistan are too quiet and shifty to know what they're going to do.
So the thread is is real.

Also what must be remembered is Dalmiya's run at ICC head (1996), he ruled with autocraticly and only foufn himself in power after swaying South Africa and Pakistan away from the Australian candidate, so he has alot of power and influence.

[IamtheWalrus]

Upset about warne being dismissed for 99
who was i for one founf it just so highly comical.
It couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke
well down Warne you moron first last and only chance to reach 100 and you fucked it royal.
And also hearing about that more Mundine getting KOed
i heard they did a brain scan on the loud mouth i wonder did they find one
Retire and stop making yourself look foolish Mundine
the first decent boxer he came up against and he got whipped:D

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by IamtheWalrus
Upset about warne being dismissed for 99
who was i for one founf it just so highly comical.
It couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke
well down Warne you moron first last and only chance to reach 100 and you fucked it royal.
And also hearing about that more Mundine getting KOed
i heard they did a brain scan on the loud mouth i wonder did they find one
Retire and stop making yourself look foolish Mundine
the first decent boxer he came up against and he got whipped:D

As for Warne, Since McGrath had just walked to the wicket and because Warne likes to be in control he saw he had to have a shot or he wouldn't reach 100, he felt what he did is right. He did fuck it up but he thought he would have had less chance if he had not had a shot.

Also Mundine never played cricket but he did lose, it was about time for a loss, he'll bounce back but Walrus, when you want to contribute something half-decent then come bacl

1/88
Lead by 271
With 6 Sessions to Go
Lunchtime 3:30pm (EDST)

[kore_terminator]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw


Lets have a look, he has the backing of:
Bangladesh (India funds them heavily)
Sri Lanka (Their geographic location)
South Africa (Strong ties and the fact they're not in flavour with the ICC)
Zimbabwe (Strong links with India)
Kenya (Strong links with India)

Thats 6 of the 11 ICC countries.

Only Australia, New Zealand and England are pure ICC Countries.

West Indies and Pakistan are too quiet and shifty to know what they're going to do.
So the thread is is real.

Also what must be remembered is Dalmiya's run at ICC head (1996), he ruled with autocraticly and only foufn himself in power after swaying South Africa and Pakistan away from the Australian candidate, so he has alot of power and influence.

Your right, in that this threat is real. It will be a tragedy if the cricket world is split on the basis that India did not get their own way with the ICC and that the countries that follow them are because of the location and the fact that they are almost blackmailed through the funds that are recieved from India, or that they share strong links.

The fact that South Africa (2003) and the West Indies (2007) hold the world cup at these respective years, must come into calculations. These bring an extraordinary amount of money in, and a ICC split will see these potential dollars go bye bye. Alas, a split will allow India to hold constant money grabbing one day torneys every so often, just to bring in the $$$$.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by Black Eagle
On other pressing matters: Victoria. What the fuck is going on? All out for 139 in the first dig and are 0/38 chasing Tassie's first innings total of over 500 odd!
Where do they go from here?
Need to delist players, inject new blood into the side?
ideas?

Don't feel bad for Victoria Rhys they've never won a match at Belrieve against Tasmania and haven't even won a match in Hobart since 1980/81.

So it's not really our fault, we're just crap down there.
(And Everywhere else)

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by kore_terminator


Your right, in that this threat is real. It will be a tragedy if the cricket world is split on the basis that India did not get their own way with the ICC and that the countries that follow them are because of the location and the fact that they are almost blackmailed through the funds that are recieved from India, or that they share strong links.

The fact that South Africa (2003) and the West Indies (2007) hold the world cup at these respective years, must come into calculations. These bring an extraordinary amount of money in, and a ICC split will see these potential dollars go bye bye. Alas, a split will allow India to hold constant money grabbing one day torneys every so often, just to bring in the $$$$.

Yes that was the major problem with those two counties holding the next two World Cups, the ICC will have no major source of revenue which would lead to their downfall.

Also its good to see I've dragged you to my way of thinking.

[kore_terminator]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw


Yes that was the major problem with those two counties holding the next two World Cups, the ICC will have no major source of revenue which would lead to their downfall.

Also its good to see I've dragged you to my way of thinking.

I think its time to debut some color into my posts.

EDIT Then again, indigo really is a bad color.

Once the game of cricket was tarnished by the bribary alligations last decade we have seen the game go downhill, all for the $$$. Every team has been hit with alligations and teams such as India and South Africa have been right in the middle of it.

The ICC cannot govern teams if their piorities are with money, and not the best interests of the game.

Score Update 1/90, Sinclair 5*, Richardson 30*

Damn

Make that 2/90, Sinclar 5*, Richardson 30 Run Out

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Another Wicket
Richardson out for 30 off 99 balls
Runout (S. Waugh)
2/90
4:25pm
Lead by 273

The Australians have slowed the play down and forced the wicket with shoddy running by the New Zealanders.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by kore_terminator
Once the game of cricket was tarnished by the bribary alligations last decade we have seen the game go downhill, all for the $$$. Every team has been hit with alligations and teams such as India and South Africa have been right in the middle of it.
The ICC cannot govern teams if their priorities are with money, and not the best interests of the game.


If you really wanted to pinpoint a time when cricket first became commerical and started to be for the money, try the time back in 1977 when Kerry Packer, revolutionized the game by introducing One-Day cricket.
In an attempt to make the game more fan-friendly he may have caused the game in a decline, we are now feeling the effects of One-Day cricket and its popularity.

Also its not the teams, the teams wish to play for the game but the board and management, with the greedy fat-cats who run the game are the people who want the money not the players.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Well what do you know, amount of replies in this thread
tWooo Hundred and tWenTIE TWooooo.

Richie would be proud.

[kore_terminator]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw


If you really wanted to pinpoint a time when cricket first became commerical and started to be for the money, try the time back in 1977 when Kerry Packer, revolutionized the game by introducing One-Day cricket.
In an attempt to make the game more fan-friendly he may have caused the game in a decline, we are now feeling the effects of One-Day cricket and its popularity.

Also its not the teams, the teams wish to play for the game but the board and management, with the greedy fat-cats who run the game are the people who want the money not the players.

OK i think ive found a good color.

I was going to refer to Packer's involvement, but the popularity of the One Dayers wouldnt mean anything if they were not going to bring in a profit. The fact that they are a quick way of bringing in a buck for the 'fat-cats' of the game is the primary reason to exploit it. The commercialisation of the game back 25 years ago ruffled feathers then, but not at the extent that Daliyma is today.

Out of the teams that are on India's side, the majority are teams that were accepted by the ICC to be given test/one day status 5, 10 15 years ago. Without the invatation, these teams would still be kicking the bucket trying to get in the cricket world.

Wicket Update (go you aussies)
Sinclair 29 caught Gilchrist, Bowled McGrath

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by kore_terminator


Out of the teams that are on India's side, the majority are teams that were accepted by the ICC to be given test/one day status 5, 10 15 years ago. Without the invatation, these teams would still be kicking the bucket trying to get in the cricket world.

Well Australia helped Zimbabwe and South Africa both gain test status 10 years ago.

The only problem was this when (as I said above) Dalmiya ran for ICC President, supposedly The Australian Candidate had support from Zimbabwe and South Africa, however Dalmiya swung those candidates with his stand that an Asian president was needed. Dalmiya won, and look at the state the game is in today.

We also help fund alot of the West Indian ventures. Which would lead us to believe they'll side with us, if the sides are ever drawn up.

Pakistan has been a test side for a long time as well as Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Kenya are sides which have just started and have no history with the ICC so why not join the Asian revolution.

I had something else to say but I've forgotten it now, When I remember it, I'll write it.

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
OK Fellas it seems you don't pay much attention to World Cricket, just the local tours. Let me explain,

There is a major suspicion that Jagmohan Dalmiya (Indian Cricket Board) wants to convert cricket into a series of ome-day internationals to be televised world-wide. His links with major Asian television networks and the profits those generate from international networking is well known (not to you guys it seems).
While Australia and England, in particular want to promote tests, Asian countries have all bit abandoned the five-day contests to concerntrate on limited over games.
Dalmiya is slowly splitting away from the ICC and taking alot of Asian playing countries with him (Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Kenya, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Pakistan).
Hi goal is to use these teams in the one-day internationals and create a windfall of hundreds of millions of dollars or perhaps billions.
The only way to achieve his goal os to break from the inderpendant television contracts with the International Cricket Council.

So far Dalmiya has used his influence to force the scheduled third test against South Africa to be played outside the ICC rules.
His actions which threatened South Africa with the loss of $2.5 million in TV rights if the match did not proceed gained poitical intervention from the South African government, which has considerable trade dealings with India.
The result was that the Match Referee Mike Denness was replaced by South African Denis Lindsay.

Dalmiya refused to accet the decisions handed down by Denness from the previous test that 6 Indian players were to be penilised for various misdemeanours.
The fact that one of the culprits, Virender Selwag, who as suspended for excessive appealing who was reported by two umpires and then suspended by Denness seemingly was not a consideration.
One of the umpires was South African and the other was from Zimbabwe, yet Dalmyia raisedinnuendo of racial discrimination all of which was directed at Denness.

A test cannot be staged without the ICC approved, inderpendant umpire and the ICC apointed, inderpendant match-referee. The removal of Denness as match referee ensured the third match in the series no longer had test status. The smokescreen of enlisting an ICC referee, Lindsay was irrelevant. He was not inderpendant, being a South African.

The only problem is now England have said that they will pull out of their current series in India which would create a massive hole in the financial side of the Indian Board. If Selwag does play England won't tour. If selway doesn't play Indian would have fallen to the ICC.

He's at a cross-road and doesn't know what to do.

His major option is to drop out of ICC juristiction and take alot of the Asian countries with him.
Create an Asian tournament which throws the world cup (South Africa 2003 and West Indies 2007) into disarray.

We'll just have to wait and watch who jumps next.

Well is that enough for you guys?
And all that proves me wrong how exactly?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi from yesterday

The Indian cricket team have an ego problem. It's true, they are gods in their own country, and it's clearly gone to their heads. Muralitharan, Tendulkar, et al think they're all above the ICC? Well, I guess they just got a reality check. Whinging bastards.


As I said its not the team its the board. I just gave the major culprit and what he's been doin. Also last time I checked Muralitharan plays for Sri Lanka.

Another Wicket
Flemming bowled Warne for 4
4/151

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
As I said its not the team its the board. I just gave the major culprit and what he's been doin.

Ah, of course. It was the board, not the players, who overappealed, charged the umpire and tampered with the ball which lead to the whole fiasco in the first place.


Also last time I checked Muralitharan plays for Sri Lanka.
2 pages back.

GWP.

Get With Programme.

[Black Eagle]

After a shite day for cricket, i got home tired and hungry, sat down in front of the tv and saw that australia is in probably the worst position it's been in for a number of years.

At this point in time, New Zealand lead by 439 runs with 2 wickets in hand, with another 20 odd overs left to be bowled tonight. I see a declaration with about 15 overs to be bowled tonight, which leaves Australia about 450 runs to get in a day.

If they somehow get out of jail, they will record history as the largest 4th innings total!

I don't see Australia doing it. They made 369 and defeated pakistan in Hobart last year, but they won't do it twice. They will of course be aggressive, but the total will just be too much for them

I'm guessing that we will play for a tame draw and end up something around 290 for 4

[da_man]

*pom invades the Aussie thread*

Ahhh...what a glorious day! The Aussies are struggling along in their test while England's top order and cruising comfortably against the Indians.

TRESCOTHICK IS GOD!

1, 2, 3, 4....Happy Days!

[kore_terminator]

I'm watching the cricket at the moment, and I have got this ugly feeling that Australia is going to either go to a tame draw or they will get bowled tomorrow. In the little time they have tonight, they need to soften up this Kiwi attack, so as they can attempt to get the 440 or so that is required tomorrow.

It would take a miricle for Australia to get the runs. If they do, it should be considered the greatest 4th innings in the history of the great game. Although, at 1/41, i just can't see it happening, especially if Vettori repeats his form from his first innings effort.

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by da_man
*pom invades the Aussie thread*

Ahhh...what a glorious day! The Aussies are struggling along in their test while England's top order and cruising comfortably against the Indians.

TRESCOTHICK IS GOD!

1, 2, 3, 4....Happy Days!

Damn, and i thought that this thread was invite only :wtf:

Finally. A bright day in the England cricket sides history. They finally have something to talk about. No not their performance against India. But the form of the aussies!!!!

I doubt it very much that australia will get bowled out tommorow. Though Vettori is bowling well as of late. But surely, they can survive the 105 overs needed to get a draw

But on the other side of the scale, they need 440 of 105 overs. Gettable where i stand

[kore_terminator]

Originally posted by Black Eagle


Damn, and i thought that this thread was invite only :wtf:

Finally. A bright day in the England cricket sides history. They finally have something to talk about. No not their performance against India. But the form of the aussies!!!!

I doubt it very much that australia will get bowled out tommorow. Though Vettori is bowling well as of late. But surely, they can survive the 105 overs needed to get a draw

But on the other side of the scale, they need 440 of 105 overs. Gettable where i stand



Currently it stands that Australia is at 2/52 (Ponting out for 26, Bowled Cairns) and we are struggling. It may not come down ot he amount of runs requried, it will be down to survival.

And about England, its the first time ive heard them speak since they last beat Australia for the ashes, all the way back in 1985-1986:D . Maybe they have offered the Indians money to throw the test?

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by kore_terminator


Currently it stands that Australia is at 2/52 (Ponting out for 26, Bowled Cairns) and we are struggling. It may not come down ot he amount of runs requried, it will be down to survival.

And about England, its the first time ive heard them speak since they last beat Australia for the ashes, all the way back in 1985-1986:D . Maybe they have offered the Indians money to throw the test?

Australia are still in a good position. They are a attacking side and won't die wondering. They will have a go at the total to see how they fare. New Zealand have dominated and have the upper hand
but we will have to wait until tommorow

Wouldn't be suprised either if England did offer bribes, seeing as though both countries have been pinged for that!

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi

Ah, of course. It was the board, not the players, who overappealed, charged the umpire and tampered with the ball which lead to the whole fiasco in the first place.


Parcheesi, sure the players carried out those offences, but thats not the issue that was being raised.

What I talk about has been planned for a while and all that test did was to give Dalmiya a platform to begin his attack. The fiasco is at board level the players don't just turn up to the ground on the first day of a test and think yeah I'll have a game today. They have boards to do these things, the players just play. If they're told to play they will.
Dalmiya threw the umpire out not the players.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by da_man
*pom invades the Aussie thread*

Ahhh...what a glorious day! The Aussies are struggling along in their test while England's top order and cruising comfortably against the Indians.

TRESCOTHICK IS GOD!

1, 2, 3, 4....Happy Days!

As I've been saying India has alot of troubles at the moment, so I wouldnt be surprised if Kenya toured and knocked them off.

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw


Parcheesi, sure the players carried out those offences, but thats not the issue that was being raised.

What I talk about has been planned for a while and all that test did was to give Dalmiya a platform to begin his attack. The fiasco is at board level the players don't just turn up to the ground on the first day of a test and think yeah I'll have a game today. They have boards to do these things, the players just play. If they're told to play they will.
Dalmiya threw the umpire out not the players.
Look, forgive me for not loving every facet of the cricketing world, but all the behind the scenes politicking makes me go a big rubbery one. So forgive me for snoozing off while the machinations of the Indian cricketing board were detailed. Just play the fucking game, is my philosophy.

India need to have a good, hard look at themselves, that's all there is to it. Australia, England, South Africa, Zimbabwe, New Zealand, West Indies, Pakistan, etc don't go on in such a ludicrous display.

[Black Eagle]

I aint getting involved with you David, cause simply, i can't be fucked

at stumps on day 4 in the third test between Australia and New Zealand sees Australia struggling at 2/69 needing another 371 runs to win in about 100 overs

[IamtheWalrus]

saw a little of the India /england test
Poms lost there last 6 wickets for 30 something.
gptta love it :D
but where are the decent bowlers no Gouth sp
and Caddick for England and no Shrinath sp for India
whats going on

[The Parcheesi]

Originally posted by da_man
*pom invades the Aussie thread*

Ahhh...what a glorious day! The Aussies are struggling along in their test while England's top order and cruising comfortably against the Indians.

TRESCOTHICK IS GOD!

1, 2, 3, 4....Happy Days!
All out for 238... maybe you jinxed 'em?

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! :evilgrin:

[da_man]

What the bloody hell were our middle-lower order playing at?!!?

It happens every freaking innings! Arggghhhhhh!!!!!
[/whinging pom mode]

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by The Parcheesi
Look, forgive me for not loving every facet of the cricketing world, but all the behind the scenes politicking makes me go a big rubbery one. So forgive me for snoozing off while the machinations of the Indian cricketing board were detailed. Just play the fucking game, is my philosophy.

It's ok, you're forgiven.



Originally posted by Black Eagle
I aint getting involved with you David, cause simply, i can't be fucked
at stumps on day 4 in the third test between Australia and New Zealand sees Australia struggling at 2/69 needing another 371 runs to win in about 100 overs


OK Don't get involved with me, because all it'll do is create more problems for you ask I know too much about World Cricket.

AHEM... Rhys there are 90 Overs in a day's play. You play the game and should know that Rhys.



Originally posted by da_man
What the bloody hell were our middle-lower order playing at?!!?
It happens every freaking innings! Arggghhhhhh!!!!!
[/whinging pom mode]

Da Man remember it is the English Middle Order. Thats Why they suck.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Also I forgot to add that Brett Lee was fined for bringing the game into disrepute for verbally abusing New Zealand Tailender Bond.


When Shane Warne was seen Swearing on National Television 2 dys ago, which caused the Switchboard to be flooded with calls but nothing eventuated.

[Pete Cash]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw

When Shane Warne was seen Swearing on National Television 2 dys ago, which caused the Switchboard to be flooded with calls but nothing eventuated.

That's cause he is Warney, he can do anything.

And besides it was probably Joe the camera man

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by The Australian Crippler

That's cause he is Warney, he can do anything.
And besides it was probably Joe the camera man

But the thing is that he was shown on TV saying it and you could also hear it.

So unfortunately it wasn't Joe, even though Joe did re-start his camera man duties in the Hobart Test Match.

But it is Warney he's a champion.
If Gilchrist had done it, he would have been fined.

[kore_terminator]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
Also I forgot to add that Brett Lee was fined for bringing the game into disrepute for verbally abusing New Zealand Tailender Bond.


When Shane Warne was seen Swearing on National Television 2 dys ago, which caused the Switchboard to be flooded with calls but nothing eventuated.

There is no doubt that Lee went totally overboard in giving Shane Bond his marching orders. I was watching him bowl yesterday, and he had been bowling up to 4 bouncers an over until the dismissal. He was fired up pretty badly.

It is a different story with Warne, he swears almost every game, and the reason it is heard it because the microphone in the stump cam seems to be sensitive enough to pick up his ramblings.

Score Update: Australia 2/107 requiring about 4.2 runs from here on in.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by kore_terminator
There is no doubt that Lee went totally overboard in giving Shane Bond his marching orders. I was watching him bowl yesterday, and he had been bowling up to 4 bouncers an over until the dismissal. He was fired up pretty badly.
Score Update: Australia 2/107 requiring about 4.2 runs from here on in.

Yeah It's good that Lee was fined, he deserved that.

I think the Australians still have a major chance at winning as ther have been no wickets in the first hours play.
with the Aussies now at 2/121

Australia RR: 3.58
Required RR: 4.36

Well it will be close, and we'll just have to wait and see if the Aussies can break through and up the run rate.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

First Wicket for the day.
Hayden 57 off 114 balls
Bowled Vettori caught Sinclair
3/130

Australia RR: 3.51
Required RR: 4.43

310 runs to go.
70 overs to play.

[kore_terminator]

Just as this loads up, they have got a wicket.

The question that I was going to put forward to all in this cricket thread, is:

Does Australia have a realistic chance of winning this test?

With the loss of a wicket, this has no doubt dented the chances that we had. Simply put, the Waugh twins need to put their bats together and try to make it through to lunch unscaved. A last dash effort can be achived with Gilchrist, but the majority of the runs need to be scored by the Waugh twins and Martin.

I think that we can not be bowled out, but the result of a draw looks more and more likely as the overs go by.