Metal Discussion Thread

[NiMMERS]

Now I don't know what you guys consider "metal" to be, but a lot of the shit you've been talking about recently has made me sick.

That is all.

Lighten up eh?

To quote a famous metal icon/simpleton, 'the pulse of heavy metal lies in the underground'...Don't go all Anselmo on us, I beg of you!

[Crabby]

Apparently at the Utopia SYL in-store,Byron confirmed he will be filling in on bass for Fear Factory in February.So there you go anyway.

[Crabby]

I just picked up my MTFB ticket,which is awesome news. \m/

[Nemesis]

Now I don't know what you guys consider "metal" to be, but a lot of the shit you've been talking about recently has made me sick.

That is all.

Wow, what else is new.

[NiMMERS]

Well I went hunting for Melvins' 'Houdini' album. They didn't have it. So I got the Fantomas Melvins Big Band album. Damn, I wish I was smart enough to buy a ticket to the Geeks tour.

[Crabby]

The Geeks Tour hasn't sold out yet,man.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Britain's Rock Sound magazine is reporting that EVANESCENCE's Ben Moody has walked out in the middle of the band's European tour. The guitarist and co-songwriter, who formed the band as a teenager with singer Amy Lee, flew home without speaking to his bandmates during a day off on their German trek. They were then left to play the rest of their European dates, including the U.K., without him. As yet, it's impossible to say he has left for good but an angry, emotional Amy told the magazine: "You don't do that to your band. You wouldn't do that to your friends or your family. You don't do that to anyone."

Apparently it's not the first time he's walked out. The band have had to cancel a tour in the past and Amy told the crowd at a recent gig at Manchester Apollo. "Ben flew home, but we didn't want to let it cancel the tour again."

:yes: Now the morons will shut up. Another crap band dies.

[Crabby]

Both Blood Duster and Poison The Well have been confirmed for BDO.Cool stuff.

[Nemesis]

Have any of you guys heard Grimfist? It's hard for me to imagine on most of the songs that Frediablo from Gorelord is the vocalist. Sounds pretty badass, I think I'm gonna be buying that one. I heard the samples here (http://www.grimfist.com/music.htm).

[NiMMERS]

Man, I've been looking for the Grimfist album for a while. Those samples are awesome.

[Nemesis]

I'm trying to find a bunch of samples of shit that I haven't got to listen to before. Ninnghizidda (or however the hell you spell it) sounds pretty good, too.

Now if I can only get the Zaraza mp3 to play...:mad:

[Ringo]

Couple of Things...

Bloody hell, anyone heard of Viking Skull yet? theyre very good, Akercocke's new album sounds pretty damn good aswell. Oh, and Avenged Sevenfold sound great.

Anyone got the New Machine Head album, Its fantastic. I was a bit surprised, but its amazing.

Also Winnebago Deal are apparently gonna release a live album.

Anyone like Stampin Ground?

[Ringo]

That last question goes for Hypocrisy aswell.

and should I get Aeon or The first album from Zyklon?

[GameOver!]

:yes: Now the morons will shut up. Another crap band dies.That's metal related somehow? Anyways, that girl really needs a different backup band... something black metal.

:beer:

[Ringo]

If all I had heard was "My Immortal" once, and only once I may actually have been an Evanescence fan, My Immortal sounded like a good song the first time i heard it, but unfortunately I heard "Bring Me To Life" and "My Immortal" more than once....... ALOT more than once in fact...

[NiMMERS]

and should I get Aeon or The first album from Zyklon?

Yes. Get some Myrkskog too. It's very much in the vein of where Zyklon are musically, not surprising considering they include incubent members of Zyklon.

[Crabby]

Anyone got the New Machine Head album, Its fantastic. I was a bit surprised, but its amazing.


I've heard it,but I haven't bought it yet.From the listens I've had,it seems like a definite improvement from their last two albums,but not quite a complete return to form IMO.The songwriting lacks a little in parts IMO but I reckon Phil Demmel has made a real difference to the band.

I also plan to pick up the latest Arch Enemy soon as well.

[Ringo]

Oh Yeah! I meant to mention them as well, I heard that track 'We Shall Rise' or whatever its called, Bloody Good.

And about Machine Head, theres about two poor tracks on the album, but the majority is great, "Imperium" is clearly trying to re-create "Davidian", and does a damn good job. Left Unfinished reminds me of The Blood, The Sweat, The Tears, Then you have "Bite The Bullet", "Days Turn Blue To Gray", "All Falls Down" and "Vim", all great. But the best track is "Descend The Shades Of Night", it may not be heavy or fast, but its beautiful. It seems they have re done the idea for Burning Red's title track, but this time extremely well. If your not gonna buy the album, at least listen to "Imperium" and "Descend The Shades Of Night"

[Nemesis]

and should I get Aeon or The first album from Zyklon?

All I've heard off the new one is Psyklon Aeon, but World Ov Worms is really good. It's worth buying.

What does the new Machine Head sound like compared to the old albums? If it's similar to Supercharger or the Burning Red, I'm not sure if I'm interested. :\

[Ringo]

Well there is some Burn My Eyes, Some Burning Red and Some More Things Change.

[Crabby]

The rumours for Sepultura support acts are Damaged/Contrive (Andrew Haug's band) and Jerk/Japunga.

[Crabby]

I picked up Daysend's "Severance" album at their show last night,and I must say it's pretty good.One of the better metal releases of the year IMO anyway.

[Nemesis]

Quick question: any of you guys used Launchcast?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I did back in late 99. But then moved back to dialup so I stopped.

And now I have all my music on my computer anyway, so I have a playlist of over 120 hours randomised.

[Crabby]

I saw an advertisement in the newspaper today for the Sepultura show in Sydney,the support acts are indeed Damaged and Contrive.So there you go anyway. \m/

[Ringo]

Dont you think Sepultura are nothing special without Max? Alot of people say theyre just as good, but I think what they had before that made them so good has gone.

[Crabby]

I reckon they're still awesome without Max-if he was still around they'd have made three re-hashes of the "Roots" album by this stage.

Wait a minute......

[firewall]

Sepultura suck, have done since Roots bloody Roots!

Down are heavy metal!

[GameOver!]

Sepultura suck, have done since Roots bloody Roots!

Down are heavy metal!Fuck Down. And Sepultura for that matter.

*constructive*

[Crabby]

Sepultura suck, have done since Roots bloody Roots!

Down are heavy metal!

I guess it had to happen sometime in this thread.

Here's a recent Sepultura setlist,hopefully they play something like this at the Roundhouse anyway-

INTRO.
CORRUPTED.
SLAVE NEW WORLD.
MESSIAH.
PROPAGANDA.
APES OF GOD.
ATTITUDE.
CHOKE.
MORE OF THE SAME.
DESPERATE CRY/BIOTECH IS GODZILLA.
INNER SELF/BENEATH THE REMAINS.
MIND WAR.
WE WHO ARE.
TROOPS.
SEPULNATION.
REFUSE/RESIST.
TERRITORY.
BULLET THE BLUE SKY.
ARISE/DEAD EMBRYONIC CELLS.
COME BACK ALIVE.
ROOTS BLOODY ROOTS.

[Alex E]

A small favor to ask of anyone in the know...I'm going to Vancouver, BC, on February 16/04 for a week. Does anyone know a website that lists metal concerts for the Vancouver area? Metalupdate doesn't go into 2004 yet.

[Ms. Morningstar]

Quick question: any of you guys used Launchcast?

Right here.

[Nemesis]

Awesome. What's on your station?

[Ms. Morningstar]

Lots of Stuff

The Featuring lists: AFI, Dimmu Borgir, Iced Earth, Iron Maiden, Superjoint Ritual, Arch Enemy, Ministry, and Motorhead.

[Crabby]

I've got my ticket to see Fear Factory in February,even if I have to sit through Korn and Static-X.Lucky I didn't have to pay for the ticket as well.Yay.

[Ringo]

I like Korn. :blah:

[Ringo]

However I do have a proper contribution to this thread..... Has anyone heard any of the new Akercocke album? and has anyone heard of Avenged Sevenfold or Viking Skull yet??

[Crabby]

I heard some of the new Akercocke album last night,actually.It sounded okay but I've never really listened to em'.

[NiMMERS]

I've heard a song by Akercocke. It didn't sit too well with me despite all the good things I've heard about them. Might have to hear something off the new album.

I've heard a snippet of Avenged Sevenfold, not bad.

[Crabby]

Is the new Dream Theater available here yet? I can't seem to find out for certain.The new Machine Head looks like it'll get a release next week as well.

[NiMMERS]

I can't see myself getting the new Machine Head album unless I hear a few songs first.

Got Nasum's 'Helvete' and the debut EP by Mastodon. Awesome shit all round.

Still pissed off that Mastodon's latest LP will be re-released with a live DVD. I hate re-releases.

I think even Brent/Ego/Crazy Awesome Man would appreciate Mastodon crazy forray into heavy metal.

[Nemesis]

Lots of Stuff

The Featuring lists: AFI, Dimmu Borgir, Iced Earth, Iron Maiden, Superjoint Ritual, Arch Enemy, Ministry, and Motorhead.

The highest rated bands on mine are Cannibal Corpse, Immortal, Samael, Dimmu Borgir, Carcass, Entombed, Slayer, Napalm Death, Gwar, and Stuck Mojo.







Damn, I'm happy today. Burzum's 'Det Som En Gang Var,' the Grimfist CD, and 'Dechristianize' by Vital Remains have been shipped. So I should have them by Friday. I almost got Ninnghizhidda, but I decided to hold off on that one until later.

[Crabby]

It seems that The Datsuns are the support act for Metallica's side-shows.Yay.

[fear is the mindkiller]

Anybody listened to the new Dream Theater album yet? I have yet to hear any of the songs and I'm not getting the album until Christmas. I've heard that it's supposed to be a lot heavier than their previous records... Just wondering if it's worth getting...

[Nemesis]

Got my CDs today. They all kick ass.

And if anyone orders from The End Records, they're having a sale on the 100 best-selling CDs in their catalog. It starts November 17th, I think.

[NiMMERS]

What sort of shit is on The End records?

I've been getting into alot of bands on the Relapse roster lately (Nasum, Burst, Mastodon & Cephalic Carnage). Probably one the better labels out there with a keen eye for original extreme bands.

[Sweet Stan]

It seems that The Datsuns are the support act for Metallica's side-shows.Yay.And they`re working on their 2nd album with John Paul Jones of Led Zep producing :yes:

[Ms. Morningstar]

I saw the video for "Progenies of the Great Apocalypse" last night on Headbanger's Ball. :headbang:

Cool Video.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Ahhhhhhhh you're JerichoMania.

Now things are starting to make sense.

I was wondering where this girl had come from that listens to metal. Always thought of JerichoMania as a guy. Had to go back to one of the older threads where I rubbished your music tastes and the quotes told me your old name.

But looking back, you've moved more and more into metal. :headbang:

But now I've actually come to realise who you are (very slowly I may add; damn me) I can now say YAY.

This is the one name change which actually helped change my opinion of you. Before I knew JerichoMania as a popMetal/rock fan who posted in that aweful fluro green now you're more obviously a girl (wasn't obvious before) and listen to metal.

[Crabby]

Mick,you coming to Sepultura,man?

[Nemesis]

What sort of shit is on The End records?



I mostly get death/black metal from there, but they even have stuff like In Flames, AC/DC, etc. You have to create an account to be able to view their entire selection, for some reason.

EDIT: Never mind. The sale isn't as great as I thought it would be.

[Ringo]

Anyone have the new Stampin Ground album, any good?

[NiMMERS]

Anyone have the new Stampin Ground album, any good?

Heard a song off it, it was pretty good. If I saw some Stampin Ground albums I'd buy them.


Mick,you coming to Sepultura,man?

Probably not. I gotta buy a new car.

[Crabby]

Here's an update from Blabbermouth anyway-

"FEAR FACTORY have officially signed a new record deal with D3 Entertainment in the U.S. (as first reported here back in July) and Roadrunner Records in Europe. The group's new album, titled "Archetype", is currently being recorded at Rumbo Recorders in Los Angeles with engineer Ken Marshall (SKINNY PUPPY). An April 2004 release is expected.

The complete track listing for "Archetype" is as follows:

01. Slave Labor
02. Cyberwaste
03. Act of God
04. Default Judgement
05. Corporate Cloning
06. Archetype
07. Drones
08. Bite The Hand That Bleeds...
09. Bonescraper
10. Undercurrent
11. Human Shields
12. Ascencion (outro)
13. School (NIRVANA cover) (bonus track)

The following is FEAR FACTORY guitarist Christian Olde Wolbers' update on the recording process, as posted on the web site of Roadrunner Records U.K.:

"Everything is going great! We just finished tracking 14 songs at Rumbo Recorders in LA. This is where GUNS N' ROSES recorded all their albums! The studio had a great vibe. A lot of history in this place! Roy Orbison still wanders thru the hallways!

"I must say this was the smoothest record we have ever recorded. We tracked the whole thing in 28 days! The record is called 'Archetype' and was produced by FF ourselves. We used Ken Marshall (SKINNY PUPPY) to engineer and record the album. Another Canadian!! LOL!

"Currently I'm finishing up programming and keyboards with Rhys Fulber, Steve Tushar and John Bechdel. We will start mixing on the first of December in Vancouver with Ken Marshall. I must say this is a pretty heavy classic FF album and our hardcore fans will be pleased!

"No watered-down songs, no stripped parts...blah blah blah...Just brutal FEAR FACTORY!!!! Raymond has especially pushed the bar in Metal drumming to the next level!!!! The drums on this record make 'Demanufacture' for beginners!!!! LOL....

"I played all the guitars and bass on the album and we will start rehearsing with Byron Stroud (STRAPPING YOUNG LAD) on bass guitar in December. He will be our bass player for FF [as first reported here last month—Ed.]. I feel Byron has the perfect mentality for FF and he's a cool motherfucker!!!! And he's from Canada!!!! What's up with all them Canucks!!!!! LOL!

"We will be touring with KORN and STATIC-X in February which we're really excited about!! Both STATIC and KORN are longtime friends and I have nothing but respect for those guys! It's gonna be a great tour...and a great year for FEAR FACTORY!

"We feel this FF is stronger that ever..more hungry than ever....and most important of all.... Burton, Ray and myself have become best friends in the last 2 years! We see and hang out more with each other now than we did in 10 years of touring!!! It feels truly amazing!!!!!

"I played [new material] some for [producer] Ross Robinson and he looked at me saying this is the best work he's heard from FF yet. Rhys is saying similar things......

"It feels good to be back!!!!!"

[Aussie_Outlaw]

It's 2:30am. I'm not going to go to bed till 3am. So what do I end up doing? Taking online quizzes to find out how Metal I am.

I'm 50% posuer (crappy quiz) (http://poseur.virtualave.net/quiz.html)
I am Traditional Metal (crappy quiz) (http://quizilla.com/users/kierkegaard/quizzes/What%20kind%20of%20metal%20are%20you%3F/)
I'm like Thrash Metal the most (crappy quiz) (http://quizilla.com/users/LoisoPondohva/quizzes/What%20kind%20of%20metal%20are%20you%20most%20like %3F/
)
I'm Progressive or Power Metal or Traditional Metal(good quiz, I expected so since it's from the Nevermore board) (http://quizilla.com/users/PyrusofDreams/quizzes/What%20Kind%20of%20Metalhead%20Are%20You%3F)

I must be bored. I'll find more.

[s-pac]

im bored too...

results: 71%, never did the essay
http://live.quizilla.com/user_images/K/kierkegaard/1047760705_TrashMetal.jpg
http://live.quizilla.com/user_images/L/LoisoPondohva/1060845511_etalthrash.jpg
http://live.quizilla.com/user_images/P/PyrusofDreams/1069022024_thrash.jpg

[Aussie_Outlaw]

The problems with the middle 2 is that they ignore Power/Prog/other subgenres.

[s-pac]

yeh, pretty shitty quizzes really but the killed 10minutes.

i think the guys who made them up must of got kicked in by some 'poseurs' or something.

[Ringo]

Im confused by the term "poseur", is it someone who thinks they like metal because theyre fans of Linkin Park etc. or someone who says 'Linkin Park suck' and 'NuMetal is shit' and pretend to like good music, when infact they dont..... ?????

[SideburnZ]

http://live.quizilla.com/user_images/P/PyrusofDreams/1068925826_black.jpg

You are a Black Metal KVLTist. Black metal is one of the most extreme and advanced forms of metal (or music in general), and you're damn proud of the fact that you have the balls and brains to listen to it. As a matter of fact, it may very well be the only thing you listen to - everything else seems to lose its charm (though that's not the case with everyone). The whole concept of concerts doesn't excite you much - the music sounds just as good on CD, after all, and there's too many morons stumbling around at shows. You're just not a people person; other metalheads respct you to a degree but think you're kind of a dick (and often a racist fucker). You don't really care what they think, of course - you know you're better.

Thats not true, I like other music too. :mad:

You all think I'm a dick? :(:cry:

[Ringo]

Those quizzes are silly, one question said what bands do you like? and I chose the one with the Power/Thrash bands like Testament etc. so at the end it says Im Death Metal and that I like Morbid Angel, Hypocrisy etc.

[Nemesis]

This reminds me of a quiz I took here. (http://www.quizilla.com/users/DecembreNight/quizzes/Which%20Black%20Metal%20Band%20Are%20You%3F) It's fucking hilarious. Make sure you look at all of the possible results when you're done. Here's what I got:

http://live.quizilla.com/user_images/D/DecembreNight/1038499397_uresfenriz.jpg

:\

[Kris]

http://images.quizilla.com/D/DecembreNight/1038779752_uresdani34.jpg

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Oh course we do burnz.

And a posuer is someone who thinks they're heavy metal by listening to Linkin Park and Korn and shit.


http://live.quizilla.com/user_images/D/DecembreNight/1038780610_ctures60_1.jpg
You are Extol

Lucky me, I think.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

He died this morning. This only mentions his work with Metallica, not Queensryche, Pink Floyd, Roger Waters, or his countless movie scores including Mr Hollands Opus and Lethal Weapon

:(

METALLICA Symphony Conductor Passes Away - Nov. 18, 2003

Oscar-nominated composer, conductor and arranger Michael Kamen, who conducted the San Francisco Orchestra in 1999 as it backed METALLICA on their live "S&M" project, died this morning (Nov. 18) after suffering from multiple sclerosis for several years, according to Billboard.com. He was 55. Further details were not immediately available.

Recorded across two concerts that reworked the band's canon for symphonic arrangement, "S&M" peaked at No. 2 and has sold 2.6 million copies in the U.S., according to Nielsen SoundScan.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Oh yeah. I also bothered to download In The Name Of God by Dream Theater. It's a fairly cool song. Not brilliant but fairly cool.

Cept I won't download any more of the album since I'll buy it later.

[Ringo]

I remember Michael Kamen also conducted at The Queen's Jubilee Concert over here.....

[Nemesis]

I haven't heard much of him, but I remember his name from a song he did with Buckethaed.

[NiMMERS]

I got Extol for the first one.

Got 75% Metal for the second.

Then Kiss.

And I got Prog Metal fan for the last one.

Picked up the Grimfist debut last night. It's fucking AWESOME! Is exactly what the ad's for it say, combines black, death and old school into a nice tasty sausage roll. It had a sticker on it which said it had members of Pantera and Immortal in it. I don't think Horgh, Frediablo and that Ole bloke were in Pantera....it has a Pantera groove at times which is a bonus.

Also got Dissection's 'Storm Of The Light's Bane/Where Dead Angels Lie' re-release digipak. Great melodic black/death type stuff.

[Nemesis]

Both of those albums are pretty fucking sweet.

The clean vocal part on Grimfist's third song kind of threw me for a loop. Sounded like a shout-out to the Scorpions or something, but not bad.

Every time I hear Dissection's cover of "The Antichrist," I like it more and more. But "Where Dead Angels Lie" has to be the best song on there.





Kick ass. My Launchcast station's playing a song from Dimmu Borgir's first CD right now. It's about time it played some shit I haven't heard yet.

[NiMMERS]

The clean vocal part on Grimfist's third song kind of threw me for a loop. Sounded like a shout-out to the Scorpions or something, but not bad.

I had it on when I went to bed and then that song came on and I heard the old school power vibe going on and those power vocals were a nice touch and then it kicks into this fucking MASSIVE solo.

The whole album rules.

Man I'm gonna have a hard time narrowing down my top albums of 2003.

[Crabby]

Pyscroptic I believe have pulled out of MFTB,I think Dark Order are the replacement anyway.

[NiMMERS]

I'm currently downloading the damageplan tracks...well I hope they are. Management had them pulled down from the net so I'm resorting to P2P.

I'd almost bet the songs are better than anything off SJR's second album which was admittedly average.

[Crabby]

Well,I can't say this really surprises me anyway-

""Due to logistics and hall availabilities, this has sadly meant that we are unable to get to some territories we very much hoped to visit, particularly Mexico and Australia. We are particularly very sad about Australia as we know we haven't been there for so long and it's always been our intentions to get down there if we possibly could but logistically we are simply not going to be able to make it. We realize that this means that you will all probably go out and burn our records but l have tried very hard indeed personally to make this work so please accept my apologies and try to bear with us. We will make it one day, l promise..." - Rod Smallwood.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

A tad late but it's the first time I've been online today but,

Happy Birthday Crabby :)

[GameOver!]

http://live.quizilla.com/user_images/P/PyrusofDreams/1068925826_black.jpg

You are a Black Metal KVLTist. Black metal is one of the most extreme and advanced forms of metal (or music in general), and you're damn proud of the fact that you have the balls and brains to listen to it. As a matter of fact, it may very well be the only thing you listen to - everything else seems to lose its charm (though that's not the case with everyone). The whole concept of concerts doesn't excite you much - the music sounds just as good on CD, after all, and there's too many morons stumbling around at shows. You're just not a people person; other metalheads respct you to a degree but think you're kind of a dick (and often a racist fucker). You don't really care what they think, of course - you know you're better.

Yeah... :beer: ..not racist though.

[Crabby]

A tad late but it's the first time I've been online today but,

Happy Birthday Crabby :)

Cheers Dave.

[NiMMERS]

Picked up some rockin' shit on the weekend.
-Burnt By The Sun - The Perfect Is The Enemy Of The Good
-Dark Funeral - Diabolis Interium
-Grave - Hating Life
-Spiritual Beggars - Ad Astra
-Skinless - From Sacrifice To Survival

I've heard alot of hype about Burnt By The Sun...but lately anyone who gets tagged 'metalcore' I tend to stay away from. But this shit is awesome and must be heard by anyone who likes something a little bit different and loves extreme music.

[Crabby]

It seems I'll be attending the Sepultura in-store before the show.Yay.

[QuietStorm]

The Dream Theater album is pretty sweet. The whole album basically revolves around Petrucci's skills which is how it should be. Amazing how you can look at all their albums and each one is completely different from the next.

"Endless Sacrifice" is probably my favorite track at the moment. Starts off a bit lighter and then explodes and rocks out the rest of the way. "Stream of Consciousness" is a great instrumental and throughout the 11 plus minutes of the song you don't get bored at all that there are no vocals.

Solid album in my opinion by Dreamtallica.

[Crabby]

Here's some news on the upcoming Refused DVD-

"Burning Heart Records have released some news regarding the new Refused DVD (yes you heard correctly), as well as other things regarding the once, mighty fine band. They went onto say:

"Mark your calendars as we can confirm that the new DVD "REFUSED ARE FUCKING DEAD", including never before seen material and videos etc. will be released in spring 2004 after being slightly delayed! More news is soon to follow.

Sound-geeks and freaks should also check out the bands crucial milestone album "The Shape Of Punk To Come" that now has been re-mixed and re-mastered to be released on DVD Audio format in the beginning of 2004 on Epitaph (Northamerica only). .

This album is also to be released next year as a fine digi-pack version together with remastered versions of the albums "Songs To Fan The Flames Of Discontent" and "The EP Compilation" (with tracklist changes made). Look out for more information and release dates on the website! These albums will be released by Epitaph in Northamerica, and by the bands motherlabel Burning Heart Records elsewhere.

Before we leave you alone with your wet dreams, we also have to tell all game-freaks that Refused is included on the soundtrack for the new "Tony Hawk Underground" game with the song "Summerholidays vs Punkroutine". Other bands included are KISS, Jurassic 5, NOFX, In Flames, The Hellacopters, The Clash and more."

[s-pac]

Out of interest of you vote for the Belladonna era Anthrax tracks you want to hear Bush singing on the new Anthrax record?

Should be a master piece.

John Bush :bowdown:

[Slash]

Metallica are facing possible legal action from defunct punk/metal band Extol (not connected in any way with the current Dutch band). The latter claim that ‘Enter Sandman’ borrow heavily from their own ‘Tapping Into The Emotional Void’, which came out in 1989 on the album ‘The Joke’s On You’

:lol:

[Nemesis]

:lol: Considering the stretch of time, that is pretty funny.

Maybe they were so tr00 that they've never heard it until their neighbor was playing it, or something.

[GameOver!]

If anything, Dave Mustaine should have gained millions of dollars from Metallica's blatant ripoffs and sub-offering/buffoolerings.

[Nemesis]

I disagree. He should drag them behind his vehicle on the highway.

Yeah, even the new guy too.

[Monkey]

I'm not sure if anyboy has actually posted this yet, but i'll post it anyway just in case....

11/24/03 - DIMEBAG DARRELL: 'PANTERA Is Officially Over'
Former PANTERA guitarist Dimebag Darrell recently spoke to the U.K.'s Rock
Sound magazine about the current status of the band that is widely
considered to be one of the most influential American metal acts of the
'90s.

When asked point-blank if PANTERA is officially over, Dimebag said, "Oh
yeah, it's been officially over since our lead singer [Philip Anselmo]
started announcing it from stages across the United States." Dimebag went on
to explain that "[Anselmo] threatened it before but when he started
announcing it in the press and from onstage, that was when it became
official. He never had the decency to talk to us about it. Nobody would
return our calls so me and [PANTERA drummer] Vinnie [Paul] just sat at home
not knowing what the fuck was going on."

Despite all the obvious bad blood, Dimebag admited "we're not ashamed of a
fuckin' thing we've done. It was a great ride and we wanted it to last
forever. It didn't but we're back with [our new band] DAMAGEPLAN and we're
ready to kick some muthafuckin' dick!"

DAMAGEPLAN, which features Darrell, Vinnie, singer Patrick Lachman (former
HALFORD/DIESEL MACHINE guitarist) and bassist Bobzilla, will release their
debut album, "New Found Power", on February 10 through Elektra Records. The
group expect to begin playing select shows in January, with a full-scale
North American tour to follow shortly after the album's release.

[Crabby]

Fuck me Sepultura were awesome last night.

Excellent setlist,great crowd and Derrick sounds great live.He's got this furious energy about him that the crowd really,really reacted to as well.Excellent show.

Plus,we went to the in-store and I managed to get three of my CD sleeves signed.My mate also produced his ("purely ornamental") bong and had all four members sign it anyway.Haha.

[Bandit]

I know it's been discussed many times in this thread, but can I get a small list of good progressive and speed metal bands?

[J Feisty]

Do any of you know the band Curl Up and Die?? Man they kick so much ass its not even funny....discuss

[NiMMERS]

It's all about Burnt By The Sun.....part grind/hardcore/prog/thrash/avant garde. It's the shit.

[Crabby]

Poison The Well have announced a side-show with Thursday (I can't say I've ever heard of em'),I think it's at The Metro.

[Daniel Hughes]

Any Machine Head fans in the house, i find everyone on these boards
normally hate whatever i like, just wondering if this is stil true?

[Bandit]

Currl up and Die? Aren't they a hardcore band? I think I've heard them before...Crabby, thursday is a whiny "punk" band. If you're going to see them, block out the guys voice, it bothers SO much. Their instrumental is good, but the guy's voice...UGGHHH.

[NiMMERS]

Any Machine Head fans in the house, i find everyone on these boards
normally hate whatever i like, just wondering if this is stil true?

I love Machine Head, until I get to The Burning Red from then on in. I havn't heard From The Ashes of Empires yet, but I'm sure it's not a return to form. Burn My Eyes is fantastic and the more things change... while different I still really like. Then they just compromised their sound and conformed and contorted their sound to the booming nu-metal fad thing at the time.

[Crabby]

Any Machine Head fans in the house, i find everyone on these boards
normally hate whatever i like, just wondering if this is stil true?

I just bought the album today after work,and I'm listening to it for the first time ATM (though I have heard some of it before anyway).IMO it's pretty damn good actually.I hate to call it a comeback,but I reckon that's what it is,dude.I think Phil Demmel has made a huge difference to the band as well.

[NiMMERS]

New Darkthrone: "Sardonic Wrath"

Darkthrone Already At Work On New Album:

Norwegian black metallers Darkthrone have set "Sardonic Wrath" as the working title for their next album, tentatively due in early 2004 through Moonfog Productions. According to guitarist / vocalist Nocturno Culto, "two [new] morbid tunes have reached planet earth already. Material that will surprise...now easy, we shall not sell our asses, like so many others. Grim is thy word."

Oh yes. I love productive bands...

[Grimario]

Currl up and Die? Aren't they a hardcore band? I think I've heard them before...Crabby, thursday is a whiny "punk" band. If you're going to see them, block out the guys voice, it bothers SO much. Their instrumental is good, but the guy's voice...UGGHHH.

Yeah, I had a friend recommend Thursday to me.... I liked bits and pieces of them till the guy went from singing to screaming...... although I have to say I do like their song "Wind Up" and he screams a fair bit in that.

[Bandit]

But his voice...UGHH...

[Nemesis]

So as far a Darkthrone goes, is their new stuff any good? I've been trying to decide whether to get 'Hate Them' or 'Transylvanian Hunger' first.

But I think I already know which CDs I'm buying next (and they always seem to come in threes, for some reason):

Samael - Ceremony of Opposites
Old Man's Child - Ill Natured Spiritual Invasion
Decapitated - Winds of Creation

...but I think I'll wait until the holiday season's over. I have a shitload of gifts I have to buy. :grumpy:

And Entombed and Bloodbath are at the used CD store. Fuck. :mad:

[NiMMERS]

I like their new stuff heaps. Get them both I say! I started on 'A Blaze In The Northern Sky' though and then swiftly picked up the other Peaceville records with the interview bits on them, make sure you get those versions. I picked up 'Plaguewielder' the other day and I rate that as well.

[Pete Cash]

I went down to newcastle today, just to browse JB and I was going through their very, poorly sorted music DVD and I found a DVD I have been looking for ages, Queensryche Operation LIVEcrime concert DVD

its the best thing I have ever seen... I have watched it three times today.... good stuff

[fear is the mindkiller]

Anyone have the Opeth DVD yet??

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I have Dokken's Tooth and Nail :headbang:

And Refused's Shape of Punk To Come.

Actually I have quite a few albums since I last talked in here:

Stratovarius - Elements Part II
Edguy - The Savage Poetry
Edguy - Kingdom of Madness
Dokken - Tooth and Nail
Refused - Shape of Punk To Come

I have a few others which I forget. I think I downloaded most of Helloween's Seven Keys but haven't got around to listening to it yet.

Oh and everyone I passed every subject last semester! Sure I may have got 2 50's, a 53 and a 61 (out of 100; 50 is the lowest pass) but I still passed!

[Crabby]

Anyone have the Opeth DVD yet??

Nah,but I had a good watch at Utopia last week before the Seps in-store.

[QuietStorm]

You know, when you bastids don't post nothing I ain't got nothing to read or to look into. :)

Has anyone here heard the Winds album, "Reflections of the I"? Great album. Hell, I can even get some quality studying done listening to it. I'd recommend it to anyone.

[Crabby]

It seems that Superheist are having some internal problems,and may even split up,and that Devolved will be replacing them for MTFB.

[Crabby]

My uni marks were pretty good as well,Dave.

[Dodgy Browne]

I like Metallica the most, St. Anger, the album everybody disses here is actually loved by me, it's pretty good. All within my hands is wicked!
My favourite tallica album is Master of puppets.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Metallica.

What other bands do you listen to? What scenes? What sub genres?

And everyone knows my opinion of St. Anger, I just expected production to be smooth rather than a produced sound of 'raw-no production', which to me sounds contrived and very lacking.

My mate Rory said it best when he said 'St Anger is a decent 40minute album stuck within 30 minutes of filler.'

Then again Maiden do the same thing except they can get away with it because, well.. they're Iron Maiden and it's less obvious.

And my favourite Metallica album is Kill 'Em All (and not because Dave wrote 6 songs on it :p ) because that HAS a raw sound full of energy. :)

Oh and Edguy's Mandrake has prolly moved into #2 on my fav albums. It was about 5 as I thought it may drop but after a year I listen to it at least once a week, during uni it's about every 2 days.

#1. 'Deth - RIP
#2. Edguy - Mandrake
#3. 'Ryche - 'Mindcrime
#4. BG - Nightfall in Middle Earth
#5. Pain Of Salvation - The Perfect Element

:headbang:

[GameOver!]

And my favourite Metallica album is Kill 'Em All (and not because Dave wrote 6 songs on it :p ) because that HAS a raw sound full of energy. :)Yes. Certianly not because of the godly Dave Mustaine. :shifty:

;) Let's face it though, and I noticed hack got a bit defensive of St Anguish, there hasn't been a good Metallica album since Dave was in the band. Think about that for a while. And a message to Lars and the bunch, consider the name Alternativvica... because you boyzzz ain't Metal, I'll tell you that f'n much.

:beer:

[Dodgy Browne]

LOL... you guys are funny.

I tried listening to Megadeth but it wasn't my cup of tea.

Okay to what other things do I listen?
I'll just put some stuff down so you get an idea.

Muse
Frank Sinatra
Tool
Blue Man Group
The Mars Volta
Faith No More
Solomon Burke
Foo Fighters
Massive Attack
Guns n' Roses
Sugababes
The Misfits
Placebo
Jewel
DJ Jurgen
Red Hot Chilli Pepers
Korn
ATB
Limp Bizkit
The Underdog Project
The Who
System Of A Down
Smashing Pumpkins
Pink
The Rasmus


So am I now qualified to enter your circle of friends or is my taste of music too lame?

[Nemesis]

So am I now qualified to enter your circle of friends or is my taste of music too lame?

Too light for most metalheads. Wayyy too light.

But who cares about fitting in with something? Listen to what you like, and be content.





Well...unless you're wanting some heavier stuff, of course.

[QuietStorm]

Here, I'll PM you the list of songs Dave sent me around this time last year. Screw his permission. I don't need it. :)

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I ran as soon as I heard someone doing something without my permission.

DAMN YOU TO HELL!

And send me a copy of that list. I wanna see it.

[QuietStorm]

Yeah ok. I told him this was an old list you compiled and things would probably be a lot different if you wrote a new list out today. More power metal. :)


I also added a bunch of albums that I thought he should check out. I'll send that to you as well.

[Dodgy Browne]

Fuck it, I wrote a long reply regarding this discussion when my fucking computer froze.

In short, there is a misunderstandment here.
I am perfectely happy with my musical taste and I don't really need new metal albums to purchase., but I still appreciate the gesture of giving me that list.

[morg@sm]

Hey metal fiends. I'm gonna see the might Madien tonight at the Earls Court Arena. My mate got free tickets cos he is reviewing the gig, so cheap night out. Even though i don't really like Maiden, my dad loves those greasy bastards. Should be a laugh as long as i don't come into contact of any greasy rockers.

RAWK!!!

[NotFalling]

My Favorite Metal Bands

HIM - Classified as Love MEtal, definately my favorite band of all time.
Iron Maiden
Blind Guardian
Metallica
Children Of Bodom
Unanimated
Cradle Of Filth
Dimmu Borgir
Slayer
More to come....

[SideburnZ]

I have all the Opeths now, I think. I like them much more having heard Orchid, Still Life and Morning Rise.

I got Morbid Angels Gateway to Annihilation (sp:ashamed: ) , awesome. I need more of their stuff soon.

I got Deaths - Sound of Perserverance. Pretty cool.

Hopefully getting Maidens DOD soon.

[NiMMERS]

Does anyone here like Satyricon?
I've picked up The Shadowthrone and Rebel Extravaganza lately.
I reckon it's good shit. I noticed on the dvd that Satyr says you can't pin down their influences or anyone who sounds like them. To me, they sound like a Darkthrone brought into the modern world with good production and a little more experimentation. Those riffs have Darkthrone written all over them. And there's nothing wrong with that.

The funniest thing about the dvd is Black Metal fanboy Phil Anselmo. Getting all lovey dovey with Nocturno Culto (darkthrone) and singing 'Frost from Hell' instead of 'Cowboys from Hell' and blabbering 'Satyricon are the new kings of black metal' in the midst of a Pantera gig.

[morg@sm]

Just came back from Maiden, pretty uninspiring stuff. Still got my dad a Tee for xmas. It was a funny gig though, it was like watching Spinal Tap.

[SideburnZ]

Does anyone here like Satyricon?


:yes:

[Nemesis]

I got Deaths - Sound of Perserverance. Pretty cool.



Funny you guys mention Satyricon. I was on their website a few nights ago. I'm not sure what to think of songs from their last few albums, but I want to hear more of Nemesis Divina. The two songs I've heard are pretty decent.

[SideburnZ]

Why quote me about Death?

I got Slayers South Of Heaven and Napalm Deaths Scum. :yes:

[Original_Adam]

The funniest thing about the dvd is Black Metal fanboy Phil Anselmo. Getting all lovey dovey with Nocturno Culto (darkthrone) and singing 'Frost from Hell' instead of 'Cowboys from Hell' and blabbering 'Satyricon are the new kings of black metal' in the midst of a Pantera gig.

Talking of good ole Phil, has anyone heard any Superjoint Ritual?

[SideburnZ]

Talking of good ole Phil, has anyone heard any Superjoint Ritual?

Naw man. Whats that? I never heard of them.







:blah:

[Nemesis]

Why quote me about Death?



Because I forgot to add what I was going to say about that CD. Oh well.

[Original_Adam]

Naw man. Whats that? I never heard of them.



One of Phil Anselmo's many many side projects.
Have you heard any of Slayers later stuff. It is noway as good as their early stuff. I got God Hates Us All and for the most part it sucked. Nothing like Reign in Blood and Divine Intervention.

[SideburnZ]

One of Phil Anselmo's many many side projects.
Have you heard any of Slayers later stuff. It is noway as good as their early stuff. I got God Hates Us All and for the most part it sucked. Nothing like Reign in Blood and Divine Intervention.

I was being sarcastic about Superjoint. I love them, have both albums.

[NiMMERS]

Funny you guys mention Satyricon. I was on their website a few nights ago. I'm not sure what to think of songs from their last few albums, but I want to hear more of Nemesis Divina. The two songs I've heard are pretty decent.

It's really good shit, no idea why I didn't get into them earlier. I've been reading rave reviews for years. The older stuff is more folk and classically influenced. Well judging between The Shadowthrone and Rebel Extravaganza. I need to get Nemesis Divina too. Don't judge their latter works on the snippets from the websites, they do them no service as the songs progress and regress, it's like songs within songs.


Talking of good ole Phil, has anyone heard any Superjoint Ritual?

I picked up the debut last year and I dig it, shortly went out and got the killer live dvd. The second album disappointed me, they rested on their laurels too much.

[Crabby]

Talking of good ole Phil, has anyone heard any Superjoint Ritual?

I think you'll find msot of the regulars in this thread are fans of Superjoint Ritual,and pretty much all Phil Anselmo's projects as well.

The Geeks Tour last night was fucking mind-blowingly amazing.All three bands were excellent,although the highlight for mine was definitely Tomahawk.Although fuck me the DJ they had before and in between some of the sets played some of the most hideous,uninteresting "music" I've ever heard.

Plus I got to meet Dave Lombardo,which was pretty damn cool.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

1. My last name isn't Lombardo.
2. You didn't meet me.

Get your story right Brendan. :p

Oh and horrible news. Timo K was kicked out of Stratovarius :(

[QuietStorm]

I thought Stratovarius was just going to mutually break up after this album anyways? Are they done or will they look for a replacement? Same band name or different band name? Yeah, that sucks.

[NiMMERS]

Seemed to me Stratovarius is ran in a nice little communist manner. Well that's the impression I got from reading the lead up to these events on blabbermouth.

[Crabby]

1. My last name isn't Lombardo.
2. You didn't meet me.

Get your story right Brendan. :p

Oh and horrible news. Timo K was kicked out of Stratovarius :(

My apologies,Dave.

Devolved have also officially replaced Superheist for MFTB.Yay.

[blackening]

which Arch Enemy album do you guys think its better: Wages of Sin or Anthems of Rebellion? i've read that Wages of Sin is better, but i kind of wanna get Anthems of Rebellion cause it has 'We Will Rise' on it and i love that song.

oh yeah, Angela Gossow kicks ass!

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Seemed to me Stratovarius is ran in a nice little communist manner. Well that's the impression I got from reading the lead up to these events on blabbermouth.

Almost, the reason we're given is that Timo K had different direction ideas to the others.

And Timmo Tolkki has already been in talks with a german singer whos name eludes me.

[Ms. Morningstar]

which Arch Enemy album do you guys think its better: Wages of Sin or Anthems of Rebellion? i've read that Wages of Sin is better, but i kind of wanna get Anthems of Rebellion cause it has 'We Will Rise' on it and i love that song.

oh yeah, Angela Gossow kicks ass!

Wages of Sin is better and Anthems of Rebellion is cheap so just get both.


#4. BG - Nightfall in Middle Earth

That's amazing.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

The record or the fact I have it as number 4?

It is solid, so it deserves to be there. Captures the whole fantasy/middle earth vibe perfectly.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Oh still with Stratovarius.

I forgot to say Jorg Michael has also been kicked out of the band.

Tolkki really did have a spaz attack and get rid of some people.

[Ms. Morningstar]

I agree. It's one of the best albums I've ever heard, which is why it's amazing. :)

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Why aren't there any local girls here who agree?

Dammit.

They're all hiding!!!

[NiMMERS]

I forgot to say Jorg Michael has also been kicked out of the band.

I wonder if he ever cops shit for having the same name as everyone's favourite pillow chewing pop has-been?


which Arch Enemy album do you guys think its better: Wages of Sin or Anthems of Rebellion? i've read that Wages of Sin is better, but i kind of wanna get Anthems of Rebellion cause it has 'We Will Rise' on it and i love that song.

oh yeah, Angela Gossow kicks ass!

Those albums are alright. But the earlier stuff pre-Gossow beat it hands down in my books. They have a less compromised sound and an overall raw feel to it, more flashy leads too which is a good thing. I suggest 'Black Earth' and 'Burning Bridges'...also get the live album (which will be pricey seeing as it only got a Japanese release).

I prefer Johan Liiva to Angela Gossow...he had a more distinct and individual voice than she does.

[Crabby]

Mick just prefers Michelle Madden from Tourettes over Angela Gassow any day.

[NiMMERS]

You lie. If they're at MFTB on Saturday I'll be plotting waypoints for the bar the furthest away from them.

[Crabby]

They are at MFTB (and BDO for some reason as well).I'll meet you at the bar during their set.

[Nemesis]

Anyone heard Centinex before? 'Hellbrigade' sounds like a great CD.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I have my own way to lead Stratovarius and since being in this band since 84 (almost 20 years) I have had a very clear vision about the musical direction of Strato. To put it short and simple, this is my band.
I decide what Stratovarius sounds like. Stylists might decide how Stratovarius looks like. I don´t give a fuck about that though, I love music and we are not some fucking Backstreet Boys. We eat metal and shit chains.

Before some of you start shouting "dictator", I would like to tell you that we have always shared the income from the band equally. Everyone gets the same from all income. I can tell you many bands when it´s not like this.

I have received death threats, which has forced me to hire 2 bodyguards. They are both former military people with martial arts training. This is sad really, but what can you do?

What a guy, Absolutely awesomeness. :S


http://shop.nuclearblast.de/thumb.php?pic=123908.jpg&dir=artikelbilder/123&new_w=170&new_h=170
Better pic at http://www.edguy.nu/

Oh and Pain Of Salvation's Idioglossia. :headbang:

[NiMMERS]

I got the Opeth dvd. It's shit hot. Now I don't have to get 'Deliverance' cos it's all in beautiful 5.1/DTS live on my feckin' TV.

Also got Ephel Duath's The Painter's Palette and the Farmakon debut.
ED is awesome, most likely an acquired taste for most but if you can stand insane jazz passages you'll love it.

Farmakon is like a cross between Mr Bungle and Opeth. I expect good things from these young Finns in the future.

Metal for the Brain is on this weekend!

[Monkey]

You lie. If they're at MFTB on Saturday I'll be plotting waypoints for the bar the furthest away from them.


Are you expecting us to not be near a bar anyway? :)

I have been told that if the heat is really getting to you the Beer Garden is the best place to chill. Sounds good to me :)

[Pete Cash]

I finally got "train of thought" yesterday, its not to shabby, I have listened to it three times, so I can't make a judgement on it really, but i will say its uhh interesting

I think this could be one of my favourite dream theater albums when it starts to grow on me

[Nemesis]

Man, I've been getting a little more into Swedish death metal recently. First Dismember, Centinex, and now Witchery. Pretty good shit. I have so many CDs that I want to buy, though. Really sucks.

I'm thinking about trying Soulseek though. Anyone ever use this before??

Also, has anyone else heard of the new Century Media compilation? I think it has about 10 CD tracks and 20 mp3s, or something like that. I think I'm going to buy that next, since it's only $4.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Man, I've been getting a little more into Swedish death metal recently. First Dismember, Centinex, and now Witchery. Pretty good shit. I have so many CDs that I want to buy, though. Really sucks.

I'm thinking about trying Soulseek though. Anyone ever use this before??

Also, has anyone else heard of the new Century Media compilation? I think it has about 10 CD tracks and 20 mp3s, or something like that. I think I'm going to buy that next, since it's only $4.

QuietStorm uses soulseek. He loves P2P programs.

And Train of Thought is finally released? About time. I've been working too hard in the last week to really have time to look out for it.

$600AU ($430US) in the last week. And to think this time last week I was unemployed :)

[QuietStorm]

Yeah, I am the Soulseek man.

If I can't find the packet on IRC then it is definitely Soulseek I use. I think all the rest of the P2P's suck in comparison.

Sorry Dave, I was sleeping when you IM'd me. ;)

[Pete Cash]

$600AU ($430US) in the last week. And to think this time last week I was unemployed :)

use some of that drug running money to buy "train of thought", its really good

[Crabby]

QuietStorm uses soulseek. He loves P2P programs.

And Train of Thought is finally released? About time. I've been working too hard in the last week to really have time to look out for it.

$600AU ($430US) in the last week. And to think this time last week I was unemployed :)

I saw it in Utopia a few weeks back actually.

[Crabby]

Overall,MFTB was an an awesome festival,loads of quality bands and very,very few shite ones as well.Alchemist,Cog,Dungeon and Astriaal in particular were excellent.Lord Tim sure is a funny bastard anyway.

[SideburnZ]

I got Down II.

I expected more, I guess. It starts off great then I slowly get bored of it near the end.

I'll take any Superjoint and Pantera over it anyday.

[Crabby]

I'm digging the Astriaal album,and Dungeon's covers as well.

[NiMMERS]

MFTB was insane.

Black shirts were plentiful. Handful of scene lovers who dress 'accordingly'...idiots. It's about the music.

For me, Cog stole the show. The one band that wasn't really metal per se.
Other bands that rocked were Infernal Method, Psycroptic, Astriaal, Earth, 'bok, Daysend, Flesh Mechanic and others I saw were mildly interesting in parts.

Bands that particularly didn't strike a power chord were Destroyer 666, Dungeon, Tourettes, Kill For Satan and Shatterwrath.

[Crabby]

Yep,Cog were brilliant-the new material sounds awesome I reckon.

I picked up some stuff cheaply there-the Astriaal album is cool stuff and the Contrive EP is actually pretty decent anyway.

I'll be back next year-definitely.

[Nemesis]

I got Down II.

I expected more, I guess. It starts off great then I slowly get bored of it near the end.


That's the same way I thought. The first tracks are awesome, but by the time the CD gets to "New Orleans is a Dying Whore," I want to listen to something else.

Heard the first one? I like that one a lot better.






I'm still kind of sad Pantera broke up, even though it's been inevitable for a while now.

[Crabby]

Are you expecting us to not be near a bar anyway? :)

I have been told that if the heat is really getting to you the Beer Garden is the best place to chill. Sounds good to me :)

How crowded did the beer garden get,though? I could barely move.


Cradle Of Filth have signed with Roadrunner Records.Hmmmmm interesting.

[WizoOzz]

I got Exhorder's Slaughter in the Vatican, and The Law yesterday. Good stuff, you can definitely tell that Pantera ripped their sound from them. But the two albums are really good.

[NiMMERS]

Yeah I heard the Exhorder stuff was being released by RR and I'm keeping a lookout for that stuff. The mp3's I heard were awesome stuff, definitely Pantera took their cues from thos band, shame Exhorder couldn't go ahead and try show the youngunes how it's done.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Got Dance of Death and Train of Thought today for Christmas.

My brother got the Opeth DVD also.

[Nemesis]

I got a gift card to get free CDs today. :wired:

...the only bad thing is that the gift card is for Sam fucking Goody. :grumpy: Most of the CDs there are $20, and their selection lacks a little.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Gift Cards/ Vouchers suck.

It's like money, except it's worse than money since it limits you to buying in one store.

Therefore you're using good money to purchase something which has a more limited scope but works exactly the same way. Therefore I never give out gift vouchers. Just give money.

I give people funny looks who give out gift vouchers.

Still got $500 today from my Grandparents :cool:. Computer Swap Meet on Sunday WOO!

[Nemesis]

Yeah, I wish people didn't think giving money was so impersonal. It's more thoughtful than buying a piece of plastic, telling you where to shop. Hell, if I just got cash instead, I could use it to get back a little bit of the money I spent giving presents. :$

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Who cares it if's impersonal? I don't.

I want something I can use. Not something which'll sit in my pocket and I'll end up using to buy some cd I might like just before it expires.

Thats why it's also good when my uncle gives me blank cds. I don't care cos I know I'll use em.

Same present two years running. :)

[Nemesis]

Dammit Outlaw, you're the only person I know that'll share the same viewpoint, yet argue against it. :beer:

[SideburnZ]

I got Danzig III and Maidens Dance of Death for Christmas. Both are awesome. Dance of Death was surprisingly better than I even expected.

[Crabby]

I picked up Cog's "Open Up" maxi single and it's interesting to say the least.Hearing em' cover a dance track like that is pretty cool I must say.Plus the extended versions of "Moshiach" and "Paris,Texas" are awesome as well.

[Pete Cash]

I bought the Opeth DVD with some of that good christmas money, so far I have barely and I hate starting a DVD and not finishing it, so its a task for tomorow.. the little bit I did listen to was excellent, but that was to be expected

[Crabby]

The Butterfly Effect/Cog show last night was excellent-both bands were awesome and Cog played some more new material,which sounds great IMO.

[Nemesis]

I just used my gift card and bought In Flames - Whoracle and Arch Enemy - Anthems of Rebellion. It was weird, because when I opened up the Arch Enemy CD, it had two copies of the audio CD and one bonus disk. So now I guess I have another copy if the first one gets too scratched.

But man, I'm never going back to Sam Goody ever again. I fucking hate that place.

[Crabby]

I bought "Anthems Of Rebellion" a few weeks back,I reckon it's pretty cool.I dig Angela Gassow's vocals really.

[Bandit]

I just got:
Symphony X: "Live on the edge of Forever"
AND
In Flames: "Reroute to remain

[SideburnZ]

Waddya think of Reroute?

[NiMMERS]

Just picked up Mayhem - Live In Leipzig and Satyricon - Nemesis Divina.

I must say I prefer Dead's vocals to Maniacs....Maniac has too much of a rabid Andy Serkis aka Gollum sound to him. Although I think Dead's voice would have been Dead if he didn't shoot himself...it's all guttural throat wrenching and no diaphragm by the sounds of it.

Damn Rock Shop tricked me they had a Final Sale with all their signs out the front. Cunts still took 5 minutes to find the CD's.

Burnz, Reroute aint bad for what it is, personally I think it's too far removed from they were good at. They're old shit rules the roost. Shall be interesting to hear the new stuff.

[Nemesis]

So how does the production sound on Live in Leipzig? I'll probably buy it anyway, since it's the only official release that has Dead in it, but is it a decent recording?


I bought "Anthems Of Rebellion" a few weeks back,I reckon it's pretty cool.I dig Angela Gassow's vocals really.

Yeah, she does have one hell of a voice. That's the thing that's stood out the most when I hear the CD, so far.

[Crabby]

I picked up Dream Theater's "Falling Into Infinity" cheap today,I must say it's cool but far from one of my favourite DT releases really.

[WizoOzz]

With my Gift Certificates that I got for Christmas I got the new Static-X (which isn't quite as good as it should have been), the new Hatebreed (which is excellent, as always), and the new band that Dez formerly of Coal Chamber is in (DevilDriver) and that's not too bad, kinda similar to good, old CC, but a little different. Which is cool.

And the new DT isn't bad at all...just heavier than usual, and not as good as Scenes from a Memory or even Six Degrees....

[Ringo]

Some recent stuff I like....

'Red War' by Probot featuring Max Cavalera is very good....

Avenged Sevenfold and Bleeding Through sound great... Ill have to get my hands on their new albums soon....

New Iced Earth album I must get, but I can find it anywhere...

and is it worth forking out 60 quid for Soundtrack To The Apocalypse Deluxe Edition??.... it does look pretty good...

[SideburnZ]

Burnz, Reroute aint bad for what it is, personally I think it's too far removed from they were good at. They're old shit rules the roost. Shall be interesting to hear the new stuff.


Yeah, I hear that a lot.

I liked Reroute a lot. It got me into In Flames. Now I like Whoracle and Clayman loads more. But Reroute gets too much shit from people. :(

[Bandit]

Waddya think of Reroute?
:headbang:

:heart: Those are my first two metal CDs ever.

Aren't ya proud? :D

[Crabby]

With my Gift Certificates that I got for Christmas I got the new Static-X (which isn't quite as good as it should have been), the new Hatebreed (which is excellent, as always), and the new band that Dez formerly of Coal Chamber is in (DevilDriver) and that's not too bad, kinda similar to good, old CC, but a little different. Which is cool.

And the new DT isn't bad at all...just heavier than usual, and not as good as Scenes from a Memory or even Six Degrees....

IMO Dez has very,very limited talent and seems to latch on to whatever is cool at the time and build his band's sound around that.What I've heard of Devildriver didn't impress me,although it's a hell of a lot better than anything Coal Chamber did anyway.Not that that would be overly difficult.

What I've heard of Probot (including a track with Cronos) sounds pretty impressive actually.Just 'cause Dave Grohl makes radio-friendly rock doesn;t mean that that inner metalhead isn't still lurking there somewhere methinks.

The word is that Nuclear Blast were very,very pleased with the success of the Soilwork tour,and are planning on having some of their higher-selling acts worldwide (In Flames have been mentioned anyway) tour here next year.Yay.

FMR should be pretty good tonight actually-it's the year-in-review,four-hour show.

[SideburnZ]

:headbang:

:heart: Those are my first two metal CDs ever.

Aren't ya proud? :D


No!

Actually yeah, they're fine. I'm not big on Symph X fan though.

[WizoOzz]

New Iced Earth album I must get, but I can find it anywhere...


That would be because it's not coming out until January.

I'm REALLY looking forward to that one.

[Ringo]

Yup...... a 32 minute song, which is apparently superb.

[NiMMERS]

So how does the production sound on Live in Leipzig? I'll probably buy it anyway, since it's the only official release that has Dead in it, but is it a decent recording

It's pretty raw in the production and recording aspect. But you can clearly hear everyone doing what they do. It's worth getting definitely. Nobody else in metal sounds like Dead.

[Bandit]

No!

Actually yeah, they're fine. I'm not big on Symph X fan though.
I meant aren't ya proud I have metal CDs now...because had it not been for you, I'd have probably spent the border certificate on BOOKS or something. :scared:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

But I'm a big SyX fan :D.

Live on the Edge is fairly good but not a patch on V: The New Mythology Suite.

Should also get Anthrax - We've Come For You All.

[QuietStorm]

I have most of the Iced Earth album and am listening now.

Ripper Owens sounds great. Declaration Day and When the Eagle Cries have both been superb so far. I love the chorus on Declaration Day.

Must...buy...this...album. I will. I promise. :)

[Crabby]

I finally picked up Frankenbok's "Blood Oath" and I must say it's an interesting listen.They have definitely matured (in the most part) in the songwriting department in particular.It takes a little while to grow on you but it's a worthwhile album I reckon.

[Monkey]

Old Skool people!
Recommend me some Megadeath and Judas Priest songs!
Quick!

cheers....

[QuietStorm]

The deal with the Iced Earth album.

First off, I know this album revolves around the Civil War but do we really need to hear the Star Spangled Banner to begin this thing? Whatever.

As far as everything goes before the trilogy it has its moments but there is just way too much filler. For every quality song there seem to be two weak songs. And Ripper Owens just isn't as good as Matt Barlow at singing a ballad. When the Eagle Cries was decent the first time I heard it but after that I realized just how generic and simple it was.

And why did they make an unplugged version of it to put on the album as well? More filler and I guess they made a video for MTV2 for the unplugged version as well. Kinda weird since The Reckoning is the single.

Attila is definitely my favorite song pre-trilogy. Everything is perfect on that one.

Ok, then the Gettysburg trilogy. Starts off with the Star Spangled Banner again, this time with the drums and more Civil War like. As a whole it is probably the best thing they have ever done. It is a 32 minute track but broken up into three parts so it is easier to skip to a part you want to hear I guess.

The orchestra is a very nice touch to it. I am a sucker for an orchestra and IE does it way better than that joke of a Metallica attempt with S&M.

It definitely drags in parts and it is actually quite simple musically. Iced Earth has never been the most complex band. I have only listened to it a couple times and I'm not sure if it is going to get old fast. The lyrics are cheesy to the fullest and even though there is nothing wrong with Tim Owens I still miss Matt Barlow. He was the perfect vocalist for IE.

Anyways, it is a solid album with a few great songs and then the great Gettysburg trilogy. I will be picking this up sometime later this month.

It isn't as good as The Dark Saga or Something Wicked This Way Comes or maybe even The Horror Show because there is just so much filler on here it is unbeliavable but there is still about 40 minutes of solid music on a 79 minute album or however long it is.

[QuietStorm]

Oh and Dante's Inferno is actually probably better than the Gettysburg trilogy. It is a toss up I guess.

[Nemesis]

Dante's Inferno was awesome. It was the only song I liked a lot on Burnt Offerings, but I haven't made time to listen to it more than once. :\

One of these days I'll get around to buying The Dark Saga. Slave to the Dark and Vengeance is Mine sound pretty cool. :beer:

[Crabby]

Old Skool people!
Recommend me some Megadeath and Judas Priest songs!
Quick!

cheers....

Wake Up Dead.
Mechanix.
Peace Sells......
Rust In Peace.......Polaris.
Reckoning Day.
Devil's Island.
Holy Wars......The Punishment Due.
Hangar 18.
Anarchy In The UK.
Symphony Of Destruction.

You've Got Another Thing Comin'.
Breaking The Law.
Metal Gods.
Painkiller.
Machine Man.
Ram It Down.
Riding On The Wind.
Freewheel Burning.
Livin' After Midnight.
The Hellion/Electric Eye.

[Nemesis]

You've Got Another Thing Comin'.


My dad listens to that and Love Bites a lot.

If you still need more Megadeth songs, here are my recommendations:

The Conjuring
Good Mourning/Black Friday
Liar
Take No Prisoners
Tornado of Souls
Architecture of Aggression
Looking Down the Cross

[Aussie_Outlaw]

MEGADETH!?!?!?!

WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD LIKE THAT?

Megadeth (3 Discs)
-----------------------
DISC 1. Killing Is My Business - So Far, So Good, So What! (1985-1988)

1. Killing Is My Business ... And Business Is Good
2. Skull Beneath The Skin
3. Chosen Ones
4. Looking Down The Cross
5. Mechanix
6. Wake Up Dead
7. The Conjuring
8. Peace Sells
9. Devils Island
10. Anarchy In The UK
11. In My Darkest Hour
12. Hook In Mouth
-----------------------

DISC 2. Rust In Peace - Youthanasia (1990-1994)

1. Holy Wars... The Punishment Due
2. Hangar 18
3. Take No Prisoners
4. Five Magics
5. Tornado of Souls
6. Rust In Peace... Polaris
7. Symphony Of Destruction
8. Psychotron
9. Captive Honour
10. Ashes In Your Mouth
11. Reckoning Day
12. Train Of Consequences
13. A Tout Le Monde
14. Elysian Fields
-----------------------
DISC 3. Hidden Treasures - Rude Awakening (1995-2002)

1. Go To Hell
2. Angry Again
3. Trust
4. Almost Honest
5. I'll Get Even
6. She-Wolf
7. Prince Of Darkness
8. Time: The Beginning
9. Time: The End
10. Crush 'Em
11. The World Needs A Hero
12. 1000 Times Goodbye
13. Dread And The Fugitive Mind
14. Return To Hangar
-----------------------


There we go. Three discs cos my cd player is a 3-disc player. And prolly come to think of it Liar has found new glory and would probably slide in somewhere. :D

[Crabby]

The Soilwork site has confirmed they're returning in April-yay.

[Crabby]

QOTSA put on a pretty good show on Saturday night-and it was cool to hear some new material as well.

[NiMMERS]

Shit. There's strong word that Dimmu Borgir have postponed or cancelled their February tour. No idea why....man this sucks. It's funny cos someone stated that Sydney melodic death metal band Infernal Method were supporting, I highly doubt that as it's the current home of Astennu who they controversially sacked a few years back.

[Crabby]

Yep,I read that today,Mick-I've heard the reason is that the Japanse leg of the tour fell through.Apparently the website for the venue in Melbourne has already confirmed the post-poning.

Good news is Opeth and Soilwork are back in March and April respectively anyway.

[Crabby]

Fucking awesome news,Opeth Aussie tour dates are confirmed-

March 23rd Adelaide Heaven
March 24th Sydney Enmore Theatre
March 25th Brisbane The Arena
March 26th Melbourne The Corner
March 27th Melbourne The Corner
March 28th Melbourne The Corner

You lucky fucking Melbournites.

[Monkey]

so whos up for a 4 day trip to melbourne then boys?
haha

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Never heard of Opeth.

But I hear great things about a band called "Flock of Seagulls"

Their song "I ran" is awesomeness.

:angelic:

[Crabby]

so whos up for a 4 day trip to melbourne then boys?
haha

Methinks I'll be content to see the Sydney show.

[Ringo]

Got "Remission" By Mastodon the other day.. Haven't had a chance to listen to that much of it yet, but of what I have heard it sounds good...(y)

Anyone heard any Damageplan (Anselmo) or Cannae yet? They sound like they could be great..

And I cant get enough of Avenged Sevenfold and Bleedingthrough, absolutely brilliant new bands...

Also has anyone heard anything by Winnebago Deal yet? Theyre great.

[NiMMERS]

Got "Remission" By Mastodon the other day.. Haven't had a chance to listen to that much of it yet, but of what I have heard it sounds good...(y)

Mastodon are fucking cool. Precision musicianship progged out to the buggery and heavy and groovy as hell. One of the best new bands to emerge in recent years.


Anyone heard any Damageplan (Anselmo) or Cannae yet? They sound like they could be great..


Anselmo? It's the other way round. It's Dime and Vinnie's new band. I'm looking forward to it. The coverart is way cheesy, Dime looks like his sometimes tour alter-ego, Sam.

[Ringo]

Oh... I could have sworn it was another Anselmo side-project.. ah well...

[Crabby]

Haha,one of Metal Hammer's reviewers got all shitty at me 'cause I criticised his inaccurate review of The Butterfly Effect's "Begins Here".I just love critics who have no idea sometimes and get very,very annoyed when you offer some intelligent criticism.Haha.

[NiMMERS]

I took a look at that thread. He didn't seem too annoyed. He went off on a self-satisfying tangent. You should blow up at him more. Grunge meets Prog rock? What he said about AIC grunge I don't agree with, the only reason they get lumped in with the grunge crowd is because they hailed from the grunge epicenter, Seattle.

[Crabby]

I took a look at that thread. He didn't seem too annoyed. He went off on a self-satisfying tangent. You should blow up at him more. Grunge meets Prog rock? What he said about AIC grunge I don't agree with, the only reason they get lumped in with the grunge crowd is because they hailed from the grunge epicenter, Seattle.

Nah,but he got kinda shitty at me after I PM'ed him about it,though.

I've noticed you've been posting at MetalShop lately.That place has been complete;y over-run by fuckwits.I'm considering leaving for good really.

[NiMMERS]

Well the only reason is I've been posting there is I can't stand the rabid amount of idiots posting shit, it's my duty to tell it how it is.

[Nemesis]

Man, I love Columbia House right now. This is all the shit I'm getting for free:

Cannibal Corpse - Gore Obsessed, Gallery of Suicide, Tomb of the Mutilated
Slayer - Haunting the Chapel, Hell Awaits
Ozzy - Just say Ozzy, Diary of a Madman
The Crown - Crowned in Terror
Six Feet Under - Graveyard Classics, Bringer of Blood, Maximum Violence
The Black Dahlia Murder - Unhallowed
Superjoint Ritual - Lethal Dose of American Hatred
Morbid Angel - Gateways to Annihilation, Altars of Madness

After I buy all the CDs I need to buy to fulfill my contract, I'm quitting for good this time. By the point where I did that, there will be no good CDs left in their catalog to choose from.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Figured I may as well say boring shit about power metal.

Stratovarius have a new singer. And it's a chick. :/
http://www.stratovarius.com/index2.php?section=vocalist_missk

And Anders Johansson is the drummer for the next album. Known from his drumming in HammerFall.

[Original_Adam]

Going back to the Megadeth thing.......Why did Marty Friedman leave? He is fucking amasing but a)his solo shit is awful and b)the replacement on Rude Awakening is no way near as good.

[Crabby]

Metallica next week,which is going to be rather awesome,if only judging by their Auckland setlist.

BDO also has a decent heavy representation,with Metallica,TBE,Blood Duster,Poison The Well,and unfortunately Tourettes as well.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Going back to the Megadeth thing.......Why did Marty Friedman leave? He is fucking amasing but a)his solo shit is awful and b)the replacement on Rude Awakening is no way near as good.

Well with my little knowledge about Megadeth (very little :rolleyes: :p ) I have figured out that he left because he prefers to play alot of different styles and felt that only 1% of what he is capable of gets onto a Megadeth record.

When Cryptic Writings went insanely huge (with Trust as a big rock single) Dave's next album was more mainstream and less metal with "Risk", this was poorly recieved. Marty felt that 'deth were going to go back to their older style (which they kinda did) so he decided to continue to release Solo albums.

As marty says on "Behind The Music: Megadeth" "I like to paint in all sorts of colours, reds, greens, blues, purples. But when you're Megadeth all you get to use is Gun metal gray." Well something like that.

But as I said, I don't know much :D

[SideburnZ]

Man, I love Columbia House right now. This is all the shit I'm getting for free:

Cannibal Corpse - Gore Obsessed, Gallery of Suicide, Tomb of the Mutilated
Slayer - Haunting the Chapel, Hell Awaits
Ozzy - Just say Ozzy, Diary of a Madman
The Crown - Crowned in Terror
Six Feet Under - Graveyard Classics, Bringer of Blood, Maximum Violence
The Black Dahlia Murder - Unhallowed
Superjoint Ritual - Lethal Dose of American Hatred
Morbid Angel - Gateways to Annihilation, Altars of Madness

After I buy all the CDs I need to buy to fulfill my contract, I'm quitting for good this time. By the point where I did that, there will be no good CDs left in their catalog to choose from.


Whoa, I want free cd's like that. How do I sign up?

[Original_Adam]

Well with my little knowledge about Megadeth (very little :rolleyes: :p ) I have figured out that he left because he prefers to play alot of different styles and felt that only 1% of what he is capable of gets onto a Megadeth record.

When Cryptic Writings went insanely huge (with Trust as a big rock single) Dave's next album was more mainstream and less metal with "Risk", this was poorly recieved. Marty felt that 'deth were going to go back to their older style (which they kinda did) so he decided to continue to release Solo albums.

As marty says on "Behind The Music: Megadeth" "I like to paint in all sorts of colours, reds, greens, blues, purples. But when you're Megadeth all you get to use is Gun metal gray." Well something like that.

But as I said, I don't know much :D

As I said, I fucking love his playing in 'deth, but have you heard a solo album of his called 'Introduction'. It is the biggest pile of shit I have ever heard.

[Nemesis]

Whoa, I want free cd's like that. How do I sign up?

You don't get offers in the mail??

Go to their website and sign up. I'm pretty sure they offer at least 12 free ones for anyone who's never been a member before. You might have to pay for shipping online, instead of waiting for them to bill you. That's the only thing that sucks about not signing up through the mail.

I'm also pretty sure you can search through their entire stock and see what they have before you sign up.

[Monkey]

Some Frankenbok tour dates some of the Aussies around here might be interested in..... if your not, too damn bad http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_106.gif


FEB
Sat 14 - Adelaide, The Enigma Bar (Lic, AA)
Fri 20 - Sydney, Bar Broadway
Sat 21 - Newcastle, Cambridge Hotel
Thu 26 - Albury, Soden's Hotel
Fri 27 - Geelong, Barwon Club Hotel
Sat 28 - Dandenong, Town Hall (AA)

MAR
Fri 5 - Canberra, Green Room
Sat 6 - Caringbah, The Venue @ Bizzo's
Sun 7 - Penrith, Back Door @ Panthers (AA)
Wed 10 - Nth NSW tbc
Thu 11 - Nth NSW tbc
Fri 12 - Brisbane, HMB
Sat 13 - Surfers Paradise, Troccadero
Sun 14 - Byron Bay, Great Northern
Wed 17 - tbc
Thu 18 -Toukley, Beachcomber Hotel
Fri 19 - Harbord, Diggers
Sat 20 - Blaxland, Kelt's Bar
Fri 26 - Armadale, Armadale Hotel

[Kris]

Dream Theater have started their new tour and the show I saw last night was fucking amazing, the setlist was brilliance: -

as i am
beyond this life (with a jam after JP's solo)
Endless sacrifice
caught in a web (with MP drum solo in the middle)
this dying soul
the great debate
finally free with the closing scene

intermission

JR piano solo
Cover of Death on Two Legs
honor thy father
another day
only a matter of time
erotomania
voices (without the 'thought disorder' section)
silent man
in the name of god(with extended end)

encore:
trial of tears

second encore:
metropolis pt.1

My god I literally came in my pants.

[Crabby]

Word is Fear Factory will be the TBA act at Big Day Out in Sydney and Melbourne-the band have confirmed as much,as have BDO promoters.Yay.Only bummer is they clash with the last few minutes of Blood Duster.

[Crabby]

Why the hell isn't this thread a sticky?

Favouritism towards rap maybe?

*Coughs*.

[Monkey]

shhhhh
don't complain about it......
just ask nicely :P

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Sounds like the same thing I said/complained/asked when Simon had the job for a week.

He said "If people complain or make something of it then I'll either make this sticky or unmake the rap one sticky", Hack's mentioned it to me (why would anyone ever talk to Simon about it; he's clueless). Even anyway I argued that it's a psychological subconsciousness thing but Simon's an idiot.

[Crabby]

Fucking awesome show from Metallica last night,people-

Blackened.
Fuel.
Seek And Destroy.
The Thing That Should Not Be.
Welcome Home (Sanitarium).
Frantic.
Creeping Death.
Dirty Window.
Sad But True.
One.
Whiplash.

Harvester Of Sorrow.
Nothing Else Matters.
Master Of Puppets.

St.Anger.
Enter Sandman.

So Fucking What.
Hit The Lights.

[Crabby]

Fear Factory are the TBA act for BDO-awesome stuff.

[Lord of the Sea]

i've been getting into a lot of black/death metal recently. i have two immortal albums, a morbid angel album, lots of slayer, a testament album, two death albums, a napalm death album, and i've always liked stuff like dillinger escaple plan, meshuggah, pantera, etc.

opeth is coming around the east coast in february and i think i might go. i'm getting into them a lot now since i've got four more of their albums. the interesting thing about them is that i really don't consider them a heavy band. they're mellow, and i think that just because they have heavy riffs and their singer growls sometimes they're considered black metal. for me anyway, they're pretty atmospheric, sort of like neurosis and isis, only better.

[fear is the mindkiller]

Speaking of Opeth, they're coming to Detroit in Feb. so now I can FINALLY see them live.:headbang:

[Lord of the Sea]

just got the new guitar world with dimebag on the cover. haven't read the article about damageplan and pantera yet, but they list the 100 greatest metal guitarists ever. i don't feel like typing out the entire list, but note:

top ten:
1. tony iommi
2. hammett/hetfield
3. angus/malcolm young
4. randy rhoads
5. eddie van halen
6. jimmy page
7. dimebag darrell
8. zakk wylde
9. adam jones
10. kerry king/jeff hanneman

retarded things:
jimi hendrix is #12 on the list.
ace frehley/paul stanley are #14.
munky and head from korn are #26, ahead of #27, john petrucci.
listing two guitarists in one slot is kinda lame.
joe satriani is #77. joe satriani is not a metal guitarist.
neil young is on the list. neither is he.

other notes:
for all you mustaine/friedman dick-suckers, they're #19.
chuck schuldiner of death is shockingly #20.
trey azagthoth from morbid angel is surprisingly #55.
alex skolnick/eric peterson from testament are surprisingly #61.
john christ from danzig is #63, with the headline "you can't get more metal than danzig."
pepper keenan/woody weatherman of CoC are #65.
mark morton/will adler of lamb of god are #80.
jim martin from faith no more is #90, except his "shining moment" is said to be from out of nowhere off the real thing. that's like the last song i'd pick.
#92 is bill steer from napalm death.

it's a decent list aside from some retardation, and i like that true metal bands got recognition.

[fear is the mindkiller]

Angus and Malcolm technically aren't metal guitarists either. Or Jimi Hendrix or Frehley/Stanley. So yea, the list is kind of weird unless they're talking about the guys that most influenced metal guitarists.

I would of put Rhoades as no.2 and moved Hammet/Hetfield back to maybe 6 or 7.

[NiMMERS]

There's a heap of great underground guitarists which I'm sure would've been shafted like Snorre Ruch and Euronymous. Did any of the Meshugah, Children of Bodom fellas get on there? Or even the mighty Devin Townsend?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I'll type out the whole list :shifty:

1. Tony Iommi (Black Sabbath)
2. James Hetfield & Kirk Hammett (Metallica)
3. Angus Young & Malcom Young (AC/DC)
4. Randy Rhoads (Ozzy Osbourne, Quiet Riot)
5. Eddie Van Halen (Van Halen)
6. Jimmy Page (Led Zeppelin)
7. "Dimebag" ("Diamond") Darrell (Pantera, Damageplan)
8. Zakk Wylde (Ozzy Osbourne, Zakk Wylde's Black Label Society)
9. Adam Jones (Tool)
10. Kerry King & Jeff Hanneman (Slayer)
11. Dave Murray & Adrian Smith (Iron Maiden)
12. Jimi Hendrix (Jimi Hendrix Experience)
13. Glenn Tipton & Ken "K.K." Downing (Judas Priest)
14. Ace Frehley & Paul Stanley (Kiss)
15. Slash (Guns N' Roses)
16. Richie Blackmore (Deep Purple, Rainbow, Blackmore's Night)
17. Yngwie J. Malmsteen (Yngwie J. Malmsteen's Rising Force)
18. Joe Perry & Brad Whitford (Aerosmith)
19. Dave Mustaine & Marty Friedman (Megadeth)
20. Chuck Schuldiner (Death, Control Denied)
21. Brian May (Queen)
22. Michael Schenker (Scorpions, UFO, Michael Schenker Group)
23. Nigel Tufnel (Spinal Tap)
24. Jeff Beck (The Yardbirds, The Faces, Jeff Beck Group)
25. Tom Morello (RTage Against The Machine, Audioslave)
26. James Shaffer & Brian Welch (Korn)
27. John Petrucci (Dream Theater, Liquid Tension Experiment)
28. Kim Thayil (Soundgarden)
29. Vivian Campbell (Dio, Whitesnake, Def Leppard)
30. Daron Malakian (System Of A Down)
31. Scott Ian (Anthrax, Stormtroopers Of Death)
32. Tom G. Warrior (Hellhammer, Celtic Frost)
33. Chris DeGarmo & Michael Wilton (Queensryche)
34. CC Deville (Poison, Samantha 7)
35, Marten Hagström & Fredrik Thordendal (Meshuggah)
36. Alex Lifeson (Rush)
37. Paul Gilbert (Racer X, Mr. Big)
38. Jerry Cantrell (Alice In Chains, Jerry Cantrell)
39. Mantas (Venom)
40, Jason Becker (Cacaphony, David Lee Roth)
41. Phil Collen & Steve Clark (Def Leppard)
42. Mikael Akerfeldt & Peter Lindgren (Opeth)
43. "Fast" Eddie Clark (Motörhead)
44. Nuno Bettencourt (Extreme)
45. Warren DiMartini (Ratt)
46. Mick Mars (Mötely Crüe)
47. George Lynch (Dokken, Lynch Mob)
48. Ted Nugent (Amboy Dukes, Ted Nugent)
49. Jake E. Lee (Ozzy Osbourne)
50. Rudolf Schenker & Uli Jon Roth (Scorpions)
51. Oystein "Euronymous" Aarseth (Meyhem)
52. Scott Gorham & Brian Robertson (Thin Lizzy)
53. Steve Vai (Frank Zappa, David Lee Roth, Whitesnake, Steve Vai)
54. Reb Beach (Winger)
55. Trey Azagthoth (Morbid Angel)
56. John Sykes (Tygers Of Pan-Tang, Whitesnake, Blue Murder, Thin Lizzy)
57. Hank Shermann & Michael Denner (Mercyful Fate)
58. Richie Sambora (Bon Jovi)
59. Jon Donais & Matt Bachand (Shadows Fall)
60. Stephen Carpenter (Deftones)
61. Alex Skolnik & Eric Peterson (Testament)
62. Brian Tatler (Diamond Head)
63. John Christ (Danzig)
64. Scott "Wino" Weinrich (The Obsessed, St. Vitus, Spirit Caravan, Place Of Skulls)
65. Pepper Keenan & Woody Weatherman (Corrosion Of Conformity)
66. Tommy Victor (Prong)
67. Leslie West (Mountain)
68. Vernon Reid (Living Colour)
69. Glen Buxton & Michael Bruce (Alice Cooper)
70. Björn Gelotte & Jesper Stromblad (In Flames)
71. Jim Matheos (Fates Warning)
72. Gary Holt & Rick Hunolt (Exodus)
73. Donald Roeser aka Buck Dharma (Blue Öyster Cult)
74. Michael Amott (Carcass, Arch Enemy)
75. Robert Fripp (King Crimson)
76. André Olbrich (Blind Guardian, Demons & Wizards)
77. Joe Satriani
78. Frank Hannon & Tommy Skeoch (Tesla)
79. Ty Tabor (King's X)
80. Mark Morton & Will Adler (Lamb Of God)
81. Dino Cazares (Fear Factory)
82. Pete Townshend (The Who)
83. Jon Schaffer (Iced Earth, Demons & Wizards)
84. Timo Tolkki (Stratovarius)
85. Neil Young (CSN&Y, Neil Young)
86. Olve "Abbath Doom Occulta" Eikerno (Immortal)
87. Kai Hansen (Helloween, Gamma Ray)
88. Uffe Cederlund & Alex Hellid (Entombed)
89. Leigh Stephens (Blue Cheer)
90. Jim Martin (Faith No More)
91. Michael Romeo (Symphony X)
92. Bill Steer (Napalm Death, Carcass, Firebird)
93. Denis "Piggy" D'Amour (Voivod)
94. Tony Bourge (Budgie)
95. Sammy Hagar (Sammy Hagar [& The Waboritas], Van Halen)
96. Alexi Laiho (Children Of Bodom, Sinergy)
97. Akira Takasaki (Loudness)
98. Michael Angelo
99. John Kay & Michael Monarch (Steppenwolf)
100. Nick Bowcott (Grim Reaper)

Really, it's fairly fucked up.

[NiMMERS]

It's got some good names there, but too much bullshit in there too like Richie Sambora.

In other news, Big Daddy G has joined Opeth!..............temporarily. Gene Hoglan is playing a gig for them filling in for Martin Lopez while he recovers from panic attacks. Man, that'd be a treat to see Gene brutalise some of those songs. Lucky American fucks.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

And the Order is fucked up on the list.

[Crabby]

i've been getting into a lot of black/death metal recently. i have two immortal albums, a morbid angel album, lots of slayer, a testament album, two death albums, a napalm death album, and i've always liked stuff like dillinger escaple plan, meshuggah, pantera, etc.

opeth is coming around the east coast in february and i think i might go. i'm getting into them a lot now since i've got four more of their albums. the interesting thing about them is that i really don't consider them a heavy band. they're mellow, and i think that just because they have heavy riffs and their singer growls sometimes they're considered black metal. for me anyway, they're pretty atmospheric, sort of like neurosis and isis, only better.

Their current tour is for Damnation,so it's a mellow tour with material from that album,plus some of the mellow stuff from their other albums as well.

Metallica were damn good again at BDO on Friday,playing nearly two hours anyway-

Blackened
Creeping Death
Harvester of Sorrow
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
For Whom The Bell Tolls
Frantic
Sad But True
Dirty Window
Seek and Destroy
Fade to black
Battery
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St. Anger
Nothing Else Matters
Master of Puppets
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One
Enter Sandman

[Nemesis]

I just got my 15 CDs in the mail! :headbang:

Now I'm listening to Six Feet Under - Graveyard classics.

So far it's awesome, and unintentionally funny.

EDIT: Okay, listened to Cannibal Corpse's Gallery of Suicide CD: decent, but I liked Bloodthirst better.

Crowned in Terror by The Crown is probably my favorite of what I've listened to so far. Just awesome and unrelenting. Slayer's Hell Awaits CD is a somewhat close second. I've always liked pre-Reign in Blood Slayer the best. Not to say RiB isn't good, and maybe I listened myself sick of it, but whatever.

Morbid Angel is definitely different than most of my CDs. Gateways to Annihilation has kind of a dreary, mid-paced sound to it that sounds awesome. I'll have to listen to Altars of Madness tomorrow.

[Slash]

Is the live Machine Head album worth getting?

[Kris]

Some Metal News:


From BBC News:

Drummer guilty of sex attacks


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39757000/jpg/_39757217_david_holland203.jpg Holland has been convicted of attempted rape

Rock drummer David Holland has been convicted of trying to rape a special needs youngster. Holland was also found guilty of five charges of indecently assaulting the teenager.

The musician, who played with the band Judas Priest in the 1970s and 1980s, was convicted of the charges at Northampton Crown Court on Friday.

Holland, 55, of The Green, Stoke Bruerne, who denied all the charges, was convicted on majority verdicts.



All the offences took place at the drummer's Northamptonshire home between June and December 2002 when he was giving the 17-year-old drumming lessons.



Judge Charles Wide QC said he was very concerned about the risk Holland presented to adolescent boys and remanded him in custody for a pre-sentence report.

"I in particular would be interested in an assessment of the risk Mr Holland poses to adolescent young men," Judge Wide said.

Holland's co-accused, Spiros Laouitaris, 22, of Bourne Crescent, Kings Heath, Northampton, was earlier acquitted of three separate charges of indecently assaulting the same teenager, who is now 18, but who cannot be named for legal reasons.

Self-esteem

He was cleared of a fourth indecent assault charge on Thursday on the directions of Judge Wide, who said there had been insufficient evidence.

The jury was told the teenager's parents had organised the lessons to boost their son's self-esteem.

As the relationship between teacher and pupil grew, they had allowed him to stay at Holland's home.

The jury heard the abuse was revealed in a letter written by the teenager to his parents on 14 December, 2002.

Maria Savvides, prosecuting, told the court the boy had managed to stop Mr Holland from raping him but said he had been abused in other ways.



Filthy pervert.

[Crabby]

Is the live Machine Head album worth getting?

It's okay,although if you have all the studio albums and you're not a MH fanatic,it's not essential really anyway.

Fear Factory also played a new track during their set at BDO,called "CyberWaste",which sounds very,very promising I must say.

[NiMMERS]

EDIT: Okay, listened to Cannibal Corpse's Gallery of Suicide CD: decent, but I liked Bloodthirst better.

Crowned in Terror by The Crown is probably my favorite of what I've listened to so far. Just awesome and unrelenting.

Really? I thought Gallery Of Suicide was way more varied and textured (as varied and textured a band like Cannibal Corpse are). But each to their own.

Crowned In Terror is awesome. A great band doing something a little different to the increasingly boring melodic death metal scene. It's got a real dirty rock vibe to it. I wonder how the re-recorded version of it with the returned original vocalist will sound? Get Possessed 13 as well, it's super solid too.


Is the live Machine Head album worth getting?

I wouldn't say so. Although my passion for MH has dwindled over the years. Sounded a little sloppy to me and Rob sounds below par live, at least on this particular recording.

[Ringo]

I thought Hellalive was great... and i got 'the Glorious Burden' t'other day.. its immense. I also still cant get enough of Mastodon, Theyre superb.

[NiMMERS]

I also still cant get enough of Mastodon, Theyre superb.

They're damn good aren't they? I bit the bullet last week and picked up the digipak re-release with the DVD. Well worth it. You got it?