Metal Discussion Thread

[Grimario]

Oh yeah, and Happy Birthday Grimario. You'll wander in here eventually. It was either here or the AFL thread. Here seems good enough.

Thanks man :yes:

24 feels so much older than 23.

[NiMMERS]

Gee whiz. So much reading to catch up on.

First things first, we don't really need to be moderated and told to 'keep it clean, boyzzz'. We're all grown up and have no problem with each other. This thread is like a forum within a forum. We've got a real community vibe in here and trying police it when there is nothing to police is ludicrous.

To Deicide....they're a pretty solid death metal band. I agree with Nemesis on Glen's vocals too. As harsh as they are they are surprisingly audible which is to be commended considering the effort he puts into them.

Speaking of good drummers....my all time favourite is Gene Hoglan. But someone who has caught my ear recently is Flo Mounier from Cryptopsy. The preciseness and speed of the man is awesome. His beats must be heard.

Ohhhhhhhhh I got new Zyklon (Aeon, to be exact) ! Some of the best extreme metal going round right now...I've heard some songs but not in it's entirety.

Hey Brendan, I was speaking to the resident metal fan at JB HiFi today and he said that the upcoming Opeth tour could well be promoting the 'Damnation' album. So maybe it'll be a night around a table with some schooies and good old fashioned relaxing tunes?

[Ringo]

So does anyone like Blind Guardian here or not? Because I got the live album the other day, and its great. I know alot of what they do isn't metal, but still....

and also... Anyone got Aeon yet? Should I get it?

[SideburnZ]

:confused: I never said they were, I just said that at first I found his voice difficult to understand.

I actually liked that first album though. I find, though, that a lot of people started hating on them once they got big, don't know if that pertains to here but a lot of my metaller friends liked Slipknot bigtime for months and then started suddenly saying they were shit once Wait And Bleed was released.

I liked them after hearing Wait And Bleed and getting their self titled and then their Iowa albums. I liked them for a while, then people here (Aussie mainly) and a dude at my school recommended to me some real metal to check out. Once I heard the real, good stuff...I just stopped listening to Slipknot. It's like drinking a glass of warm piss when a nice, ice cold coke is sitting right next to it.

:yes:

[SideburnZ]

So does anyone like Blind Guardian here or not? Because I got the live album the other day, and its great. I know alot of what they do isn't metal, but still....



I love them. Check out their albums Nightfall In Middle Earth and At The Opera. Both are awesome.

[Nemesis]

and also... Anyone got Aeon yet?

I wish. They pushed the release date back to the 26th here. :mad:

I'm thinking of something to order when I get my sister's birthday present (the new One Minute Silence is what she wants). I think I'll get Immortal's Damned in Black. Sounds pretty badass.

[Crabby]

I read on Blabbermouth today that ex-Machine Head and Soulfly guitarist Logan Mader has his own project.He recorded his demo with Junkie XL (Think "A Little Less Conversation" remix), yet he reckons it's a return to his heavier roots. Hmmmmmm,interesting.

Plus,I always find a good Phil Anselmo rant interesting-

"SUPERJOINT RITUAL frontman Philip Anselmo called into the "Kaos" radio show on Utah's rock radio station KBER 101 in late August. Listen to the interview in two parts: Part#1, Part#2.

In other news, Anselmo recently spoke to Canada's Chart Attack about his plans for SUPERJOINT RITUAL.

"I want to prove to people that this isn't just another side-project from Phil Anselmo," he said. "Not, 'Oh shit, here's another side-project and he'll maybe do one tour. It's not that important.' Well it IS that important because I'm gonna fuckin' do this. Right now, this is the premiere standard setter for true heavy metal."

"Honestly, there haven't been any bands worth shit as of late, so SUPERJOINT RITUAL, we're that band. I would love to promote or produce other bands, but there would have to be more of an uprising in bands that I liked. There aren't many bands that I like to be honest. It's hard to find a band with the full package. They may have a great drummer but that doesn't mean they're a great band. Or they can play the most technical shit ever but that doesn't equal a real song. I know the difference, it's a language of its own and you have to know how to use it."

[Aussie_Outlaw]

So does anyone like Blind Guardian here or not? Because I got the live album the other day, and its great. I know alot of what they do isn't metal, but still....

and also... Anyone got Aeon yet? Should I get it?


ooo Blind Guardian, dropping into the Power Metal scene. :)

Blind Guardian's best two albums would easily have to be Imagination on the Other Side and Nightfall in Middle Earth. If you haven't figured it out already Nightfall is about the entire Silmarillion by JRR Tolkien. If you haven't read the book and since the Silmarillion is disjointed in times you may find it a bit hard to follow but it's an awesome record, adds to the feel of it.

Imaginations is just a normal record with nine songs.

Alot of what Blind Guardian do isn't metal? Blind Guardian are definitely metal, they're like in the middle of the metal scene, there is nothing they do that isn't metal. Sure it isn't something insanely heavy like thrash or death but this'd be why it's called Power Metal. Basically this is the genuine sound you get out of Europe (not the North [ie Scandanavia]) but is brilliant. If you like Blind Guardian you should probably look into Kamelot, Avantasia (Pt's I & II) and Stratovarius.

It's strange here no-one makes any calls that Power Metal is gay. :)

[Ringo]

Yes I Know they're Metal but a few of their songs, example, "The Bard's Song" Isn't metal at all..... then again, I suppose lots of bands in this genre, Gamma Ray etc. have songs like that.

I really seem to remember you saying once, something like, "Blind Guardian hurts my ears".......

[Crabby]

I find I tend to focus much more on the musicianship than the lyrics when I'm listening to Power Metal.Nothing against the songwriting,but it does have the tendency at times to be a little too over-the-top.Still,it's a more than enjoyable sub-genre of metal.Dungeon are definitely a favourite of mine.

[NiMMERS]

and also... Anyone got Aeon yet? Should I get it?

I have 'Aeon'. Yes, you should get it. Yes, you should get their debut, 'World Ov Worms' if you havn't already done so.

[Crabby]

Slayer have been playing the entire "Reign In Blood" album as their encore at a few shows lately.Damn that would kick arse.

Seeing Marilyn Manson/Jerk tomorrow night as well.It wil be interesting at least anyway.

Here's some info on the upcoming Opeth DVD-

"According to Uranium Music, the following tracks will appear on Opeth?s
forthcoming double DVD.

The band will perform a special two set performance at London's
Shepherd Bush Empire on September 25th, and the show will be recorded
for a DVD release.

The Damnation/acoustic set:
-Intro
-Windowpane
-In My Time Of Need
-Death Whispered A Lullaby
-Closure
-Hope Leaves
-To Rid The Disease
-Ending Credits
-Weakness
-Harvest

Their Deliverance/heavy set:
-The Leper Affinity
-Master Apprentices
-Deliverance
-The Drapery Falls
-A Fair Judgement

The DVD will be released sometime in November and will feature both live
sets, as well as interviews and making of both the albums."

[Nemesis]

I find I tend to focus much more on the musicianship than the lyrics when I'm listening to Power Metal.

Me, too, but with anything I listen to. People hear death metal and usually just hear a guy screaming. *shrug*

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I really seem to remember you saying once, something like, "Blind Guardian hurts my ears".......

You do?

Doesn't sound like me. I don't make silly comments like that at all.

So in closing I never said that.

:)

And I like power metal lyrics. But then again I like things that are over the top and totally self-centered. And drags and shit. I'm weird.

[Nemesis]

Iced Earth has the coolest power metal lyrics. Just because they appeal to me. How's that for self-centered?? :drevil: (unless they're considered more of a thrash band :ashamed: )

[Grimario]

Iced Earth has the coolest power metal lyrics. Just because they appeal to me. How's that for self-centered?? :drevil: (unless they're considered more of a thrash band :ashamed: )

I think when AO pointed out Iced Earth to me he described them as a thrash/power hybrid.... so both would be right :)

Now, ima gonna put some headphones on and listen to some dream theater, live scenes from new york

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Iced Earth has the coolest power metal lyrics. Just because they appeal to me. How's that for self-centered?? :drevil: (unless they're considered more of a thrash band :ashamed: )

:yes:

And at UMMD we ended up all agreeing that metal music makes us act like idiots


Does anyone else get the strange urge to sing along and randomly pump your fist in the air when you hear power metal?

And this was generalised to most forms, thrash, heavy, prog, hair. It seems we all like to make complete fools out of ourselves because the music is damn cool :headbang:

[Crabby]

New Fantomas out soon-it's one 55-minute track!!!!!! Lombardo in particular must go crazy.And the cover art rules.

[Crabby]

It appears Sepultura will be hitting Australia in late November.The dates aren;t completely confirmed yet I don't think,but it looks like the Sydney show will be at the UNSW Roundhouse.

[NiMMERS]

Well it'll be easy to get tickets since everyone hates Sepultura these days.

You gonna come up for a Sydney gig too?

[Crabby]

You betcha.Sepultura are one of my all-time favourite bands,metal or not,and I wouldn't miss em'.Seeing as it's at the Roundhouse,tickets wouldn't be too expensive either.Yay.

And it's five days after my birthday.

Here are the dates,I'm pretty certain they're confirmed-

26.11 BRISBAINE @ THE ARENA
27.11. SYDNEY @ NSW UNI
28.11. MELBOURNE @ THE METRO
30.11. ADELAIDE @ TBC
02.12. PERTH @ THE LOOKOUT

[Aussie_Outlaw]

As of Last Monday Maiden are 12th on the album charts.

Brilliant first week sales.

Hopefully also means Kmart and Target have to stock their record. :headbang:

Lets hope we break the top 10 next week (no chance).

[Kris]

Uk Motherfuckers.

2 ( ) Dance Of Death Iron Maiden Emi

[NiMMERS]

Flo Mounier (drums)from Cryptopsy.......:headbang:

The drum solo on the live album is pure greatness.

Who is everyone's favourite metal drummers?

[Crabby]

Dave Lombardo,Gene Hoglan,John Stainer and John Sankey,amongst others.

Anyway,I went to the Marilyn Manson/Jerk show last night.I'm not a fan of Jerk,and most of their stuff sounds damn repetitive,but they at least have a lot of energy on-stage and the crowd loved em' (which isn't surprising when you consider it was probably the ideal show for em').

Manson's set was quite entertaining.Again,I'm not a massive fan,but the pure theatrics and energy of his stage show are pretty entertaining.

[NiMMERS]

Fuck. I was sitting there watching LOTR2 and I hear this massive rumblings. Then I remembered Marilyn Manson was playing the Newy Ent Cent tonight.

It doesnt get that many huge bands playing there these days so it's quite the shock.

I wonder why he is playing up here? When some international act plays here they're either a band on the rise or a band grasping at one last chance to regain some popularity. I think it's a case of the latter.

[Crabby]

Well,I think Tool played there,as well as down here,and I'd hardly say their popularity is on the wane.Oh well.

I went to one of the Alchemist/Dungeon/Daysend/Earth shows last night,I must say it was an excellent night of metal.Alchemist were excellent,Dungeon and Daysend were both damn good and even though I'd never heard Earth before,I must say they were fairly solid.Even picked up an Alchemist T-Shirt as well.

And I'm still trying to find out when MFTB tickets go on sale.And I'm still waiting for the Opeth dates to be announced.

My SYL ticket arrived yesterday,Number 83. \m/

[NiMMERS]

Yeah I reckon a MFTB weekend would be awesome. You, Dave, Monkey and I should have a MDT rocking out session.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I've been looking around the internet. OK I got bored and wanted to see when the new Strat album came out.

So I went over to their website ( http://www.stratovarius.com/ ) and they have about 6 full length video clips on the website which is fucking awesome. Even if I had two or three of them already. :headbang:

[NiMMERS]

I bought the Nuclear Blast double DVD Monsters of Metal. It's pretty schmick.

I found it interesting how the Soilwork and In Flames videos, 'Rejection Role' and 'Trigger' were the same format where they were both playing the same club and each band torments each other whilst on stage. Has anyone seen them?

Also got the latest Green Carnation...yet to listen to it.

[Crabby]

Yeah I reckon a MFTB weekend would be awesome. You, Dave, Monkey and I should have a MDT rocking out session.

If Dave makes the effort to come along.

I'll look to pick up Cog's "Just Visiting Part 1" EP while I'm there as well.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I'm gonna see if I can.

I should be able to if I'm lazy enough over the summer. Drive up there. Be an awesome road tip. if I'm lazy enough I'd bring my PC crash at crabby's place and start "trading" music.

[Crabby]

Daysend are definiyely confirmed as the main SYL support act,saw an advertisment for it today.No idea who the other act will be,though.

[NiMMERS]

Sweet. I'm really geed up for this gig now. I hope they get a decent curtain raiser for it as well.......it's just a matter of who?

[NiMMERS]

Went into JB today and got them to order in 'New American Gospel' by Lamb of God and Mayhem's 'De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas'.

You guys should all get into LOG....it's got the riffing madness of Slayer with the ferocity of death metal all with a contemporary edge.....better than Chimaira who are being pushed to the moon at the moment for some reason.

[Crabby]

I saw LOG in the CD store today,I'm gathering they're worth checking out anyway?

Going to see The Butterfly Effect/Full Scale on Friday night,lokking foward to it. \m/

[blackening]

does anyone know what trent reznor is up to? and what happened to Nine Inch Nails? did they just break up?

[WizoOzz]

Went into JB today and got them to order in 'New American Gospel' by Lamb of God and Mayhem's 'De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas'.

You guys should all get into LOG....it's got the riffing madness of Slayer with the ferocity of death metal all with a contemporary edge.....better than Chimaira who are being pushed to the moon at the moment for some reason.

I for one love Lamb of God. New American Gospel is awesome...and As the Palaces Burn is fast becoming one of my favorite albums of the past few years. They are quite awesome indeed.

But Chimaira's new album is friggin' awesome. Especially considering the fact that the last album they put out was just another nu-metal effort. You can tell that Chimaira has toured with some real metal acts, and they've taken whatever audience they got from the touring and stuck w/ it. Chimaira's latest effort blows their past efforts out of the water. If they keep improving on this style, I'm going to be a fan for years to come.

[NiMMERS]

I saw LOG in the CD store today,I'm gathering they're worth checking out anyway?


At least download a few tracks to get a taste for it. Purely awesome.


But Chimaira's new album is friggin' awesome. Especially considering the fact that the last album they put out was just another nu-metal effort. You can tell that Chimaira has toured with some real metal acts, and they've taken whatever audience they got from the touring and stuck w/ it. Chimaira's latest effort blows their past efforts out of the water. If they keep improving on this style, I'm going to be a fan for years to come.

Yeah I've heard bits and pieces off their major label debut, 'Pass Through Existence' I believe it's called. Plus, I heard some off the latest one and I didn't really get into it. Maybe it was too late at night and the reception was bad and it came off badly to me. Reccomend some tracks off it and I'll sample them.

[Crabby]

does anyone know what trent reznor is up to? and what happened to Nine Inch Nails? did they just break up?

Well,Trent basically is Nine Inch Nails,as far as I know they're still "together". They're an awesome live band anyway.

Received my copy of "Terria" today, I must say it's pretty damn good.

Apparently Devy is working on music for a video game ATM.

And from what I hear there are problems in the Soulfly camp as well.

[NiMMERS]

Apparently Devy is working on music for a video game ATM.

And from what I hear there are problems in the Soulfly camp as well.

Yep, it's Fallout 3.

Care to divulge about Soulfly? Most likely regarding Max's thumb(Gloria).

[Aussie_Outlaw]

does anyone know what trent reznor is up to? and what happened to Nine Inch Nails? did they just break up?

According to my really reliable sources (ie my brother) in recent time Trent and NIN are upto the following:


Not much. Trent is done recording the DOOM3 soundtrack. a few NIN menbers are stuck, like Danny as he's working on the Tapeworm project with Maynard James Keenan from Tool/APC. But that will never get going, its taken forever.

NIN's site is shit at the moment. All the fans are complaining to the max. Go to NIN.com and check out the shitness for youself.

So there we go.

[NiMMERS]

Muahahahaha! Max and his thumb fired Marcelo D. Rapadura and the rest of the band quit in protest! It's falling away at the seams for him! He has all these nu-metal fill ins playing his gigs with him now...who knows how permanent that is.

Oh yeah, new MAYHEM in March next year!

[Nemesis]

Awesome. Blasphemer was saying that it's going to be more straightforward than GDoW, so it'll be interesting to see how it sounds.

Now I'm just waiting for the new Dimmu Borgir and Immortal's Damned in Black to show up in the mail. And the new One Minute Silence (had to get it for my sister's birthday).

[Crabby]

Apparently Max has basically already found some new hired guns for the band anyway-

Guitarist- Marc Rizzo (ex-ILL NINO).
Drummer- Joe Nunez (ex-SOULFLY).
Bassist Bobby Burns- (ex-PRIMER 55 guitarist).

[NiMMERS]

Awesome. Blasphemer was saying that it's going to be more straightforward than GDoW, so it'll be interesting to see how it sounds.


Yeah they said it is going to be a return to their darker days...

[Crabby]

Here's seemingly the full story anyway-

"SOULFLY mainman Max Cavalera has officially parted ways with the rest of his band bassist Marcello D. Rapp, drummer Roy Mayorga, and guitarist Mike Doling. According to informed sources, the mass exodus was prompted by the firing of Rapp by Max and SOULFLY manager Gloria Cavalera (Max's wife), which in turn led Mayorga and Doling to quit in protest. Cavalera is said have already launched a search for replacement musicians with a view towards beginning work on the band's fourth album, tentatively due next summer through Roadrunner Records. It is not presently clear if SOULFLY's previously announced live appearances at the end of September — including Thursday's (September 25) gig at the Whiskey A-Go Go in Hollywood, California and Saturday's (September 27) appearance at the D-Low (Dana Wells) Memorial Show in Tempe, Arizona — will go ahead as scheduled or if they will be completely scrapped."

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Crabby MSN I'm conducting an experiment.

[Crabby]

Does it involve nude pictures of Bea Arthur?

Anyway,I was wondering,what does everyone think is the best Opeth album? I reckon "Morning Rise" is probably their msot consistent effort to date.I know Wizz digs "Still Life", but I was interested in other's opinons on this anyway.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Always. They're located in "F:/dave's stuff/pictures of bea arthur"

But you didn't hear that from me.

Opeth's best album? Still Life? But then again I don't listen to alot of opeth.

[Crabby]

And your metal collection is the poorer for it,Dave.

I'm hoping MFTB tickets will be $60-70 like they have been in the past,but still no details as to when they go on sale.

[NiMMERS]

I tend to go for 'My Arms, Your Hearse'.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

And your metal collection is the poorer for it,Dave.


But I thought Bea Arthur pictures made my metal collection more metal.

Does that mean I have to get rid of my Giant Baby bottle too?

[Crabby]

I was referring to you not listening to Opeth much at all.

I'm hoping they do the two sets when they tour here in December- the "Damnation" album, and then the heaby stuff- "The Leper Affinity", etc.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Sure you were mate.

So I'm still metal for masturbating............ constantly?

[Kris]

I wanna go see Dream Theater this January, but none of my bastard friends will go with me. Cunts.

[Crabby]

Fuck em', Dream Theater would be a spectacle worth going to see live regardless.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

http://www.metal-rules.com/polls/top100/top100.htm

Interesting, I don't agree with all of it but it seems most of the decent albums are there. Just disagree with some of the order


#1. Metallica - Master of Puppets
#2. Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast
#3. Metallica - Ride the Lightning
#4. AC/DC - Back in Black
#5. Slayer - Reign in Blood
#6. Iron Maiden - Powerslave
#7. Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind
#8. Dio - Holy Diver
#9. Slayer - Seasons in the Abyss
#10. Judas Priest - Screaming For Vengeance
#11. Queensryche - Operation Mindcrime
#12. Judas Priest - Painkiller
#13. Guns n' Roses - Appetite For Destruction
#14. Motley Crue - Shout at the Devil
#15. Judas Priest - Defenders of the Faith
#16. Megadeth - Rust in Peace
#17. Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath
#18. AC/DC - Highway To Hell
#19. Ozzy Osbourne - Blizzard of Ozz
#20. Metallica - Kill 'Em All
#21. Judas Priest - British Steel
#22. W.A.S.P. - W.A.S.P.
#23. Slayer - South of Heaven
#24. Black Sabbath - Paranoid
#25. Megadeth - Peace Sells…But Who's Buying?
#26. Iron Maiden - Somewhere in Time
#27. Dio - Last in Line
#28. Helloween - Keeper of the 7 Keys Pt. II
#29. Judas Priest - Hell Bent For Leather (AKA Killing Machine)
#30. Van Halen - Van Halen
#31. Motley Crue - Too Fast For Love
#32. Accept - Balls to the Wall
#33. Iron Maiden - Killers
#34. Ozzy Osbourne - Diary of a Madman
#35 Slayer - Show No Mercy
#36. Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
#37. Motorhead - Ace of Spades
#38. Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny
#39. Judas Priest - Stained Class
#40. Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden
#41. Anthrax - Among the Living
#42. Twisted Sister - Stay Hungry
#43. Black Sabbath - Heaven & Hell
#44. Helloween - Keeper of the 7 Keys Pt. I
#45. W.A.S.P. - The Last Command
#46. Rainbow - Long Live Rock and Roll
#47. Def Leppard - Pyromania
#48. Skid Row - Slave to the Grind
#49. Megadeth - So Far, So Good...So What!
#50. Megadeth - Countdown to Extinction
#51. Savatage - Hall of the Mountain King
#52. King Diamond - Abigail
#53. Dismember - Massive Killing Capacity
#54. Halford - Resurrection
#55. Black Sabbath - Master of Reality
#56. Testament - Practice What You Preach
#57 Led Zeppelin - IV
#58. Death - Symbolic
#59. Mercyful Fate - Melissa
#60. Sepultura - Beneath The Remains
#61. Bruce Dickinson - Accident of Birth
#62. Deep Purple - Machine Head
#63. Scorpions - Blackout
#64. Van Halen - 1984
#65. Slayer - Hell Awaits
#66. Venom - Black Metal
#67. Ratt - Out of the Cellar
#68. Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath
#69. Iced Earth - Something Wicked This Way Comes
#70. Blind Guardian - Nightfall In Middle Earth
#71. AC/DC - Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
#72. Metallica - And Justice For All...
#73. King Diamond - Them
#74. Blind Guardian - Imaginations from the Other Side
#75. HammerFall - Glory To The Brave
#76. Van Halen - Van Halen II
#77. Overkill - The Years of Decay
#78. Kiss - Destroyer
#79. In Flames - The Jester Race
#80. Exodus - Bonded by Blood
#81. Black Sabbath - Mob Rules
#82. Skid Row - Skid Row
#83. Megadeth - Killing is My Business...and Business is Good
#84. Testament - The Legacy
#85. Pantera - Cowboys From Hell
#86. Venom - Welcome To Hell
#87. Twisted Sister - Under the Blade
#88. Dokken - Tooth & Nail
#89. Accept - Restless & Wild
#90. AC/DC - Let There Be Rock
#91. HammerFall - Legacy of Kings
#92. Saxon - Wheels of Steel
#93. Manowar - Kings of Metal
#94. Twisted Sister - You Can't Stop Rock & Roll
#95. Scorpions - Love At First Sting
#96. Van Halen - Fair Warning
#97. Black Sabbath - Vol. 4
#98. W.A.S.P. - The Crimson Idol
#99. Kreator - Pleasure To Kill
#100. Death - Individual Thought Patterns

if I could give myself points for bringing you this I would :D. nah I would :shifty:. Currently have the 2nd most on the forum.

[Nemesis]

I don't agree with some of the order, either. The Jester Race at 79?? Pthhhbbt.

I'm kind of surprised to see Dismember on there, though. :yes:

[SideburnZ]

Missing a lot of stuff it seems...

Mayhem? Immortal? Opeth? Danzig?

Stuff like that.

I'd switch 1 and 2 right off the bat.

Actually I'd switch quite a bit.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I think we should do our own top 100 metal albums. Or 50 metal bands or something.

In another thread so we spread up more of the forum.

[SideburnZ]

Agreed!

Make the thread.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

50 Bands or 100 albums?

[Nemesis]

:headbang:

50 bands.

[SideburnZ]

Both.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Metal: 100 Albums 50 Bands (http://www.rajahwwf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=71451)

We can do both.

Just start the line of talking about bands Nemesis.

[Nemesis]

Some sites to post that I forgot last time...if it interests anyone.

Larm (larm.cjb.net) - A decent review site for mostly black and death. They're pretty harsh when it comes to "black metal boy-bands," but they do have some decent reviews.

Metallian (www.metallian.com) - Boasts a lot of bands, but much of it's still incomplete. Some reviews, histories, and the occasional interview. The guy is kind of a black/death snob, and he's a hypocrite sometimes (like praising Killjoy on the new Necrophagia, then saying he should quit making music in the Wurdulak review), but he's spot-on with some of the stuff there.

Anus (www.anus.com/metal) - Actually a good site with some pretty decent links. Somewhere on there is a metal FAQ, which is a good read if you have a lot of time on your hands.

[Crabby]

I heard some of the new Machine Head and Daysend on FMR last night,I must say the new Daysend sounds damn good.

[QuietStorm]

I was just informed of this tragic news by Dave. Sad day for music if it is true. I am still in shock to believe it.

http://james.hetfield.swellserver.com/news/top_stories/musicplane.php

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I was just informed of this tragic news by Dave. Sad day for music if it is true. I am still in shock to believe it.

http://james.hetfield.swellserver.c.../musicplane.php


Yeah it's terrible.

Even I wouldn't wish something like this on people.

Wonder what they're going to do now.

And now Crabby won't be able to see them next year at the BDO. :(

[QuietStorm]

It's fake! Thank God. Hahahahaha...you guys suck.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

:angelic:

[Crabby]

Queens Of The Stone Age's Aussie tour for January has been confirmed.Yay.I look forward to seeing em' a fourth time anyway.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I'm so childish.

QOTSA who? Oh they're that pop band who play that song... you know that... about that guy... yeah him. but no one knows who he is.

Kyuss is better :D

I'm in a silly mood.

[Crabby]

Dave,you know I like QOTSA, and you like em' as well,for that matter.I'll have to put up with Josh Homme's girlfriend's pop/punk band as a support act,but Queens kill it live.

I'm seeing Metallica at their Sydney side-show,Dave.Though I plan to see tham at Big Day Out as well.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I know they're no Korn but still I like them regardless of what colour Josh's underwear is.

Imagine that stealing Women's underwear

But in more important news Strongbad is cool.

[Crabby]

I'm wishing I'd picked up the special edition of "Enemies Of Reality,with the bonus DVD,etc.

There was a quality interview with one of the dudes from Arch Enemy on FMR the other night,their new material sounds pretty good IMO.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I wish I'd picked up that chick down down at the corner of Glenferrire and Cotham.

But she cost me too much :cry:

[Crabby]

Careful Dave,you'd better stay on-topic.

They're not metal,but Rage Against The Machine have a live DVD out soon.Yay.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

OK the topic is about the tropics in south america and the ill nino effect.

Well in south america I find there's a major problem and that problem is ill nino. it's a disaster basically. When it hits down in South America everything just goes up shit creek. The temperatures rises and storms ensure.

Terrible, Terrible thing.

[Crabby]

Do you think Nu Ahrue will have much effect on this situation?

Anyway,I thought this was interesting,Dave will be pleased-

"MÖTLEY CRÜE's "Greatest Video Hits", a DVD collection of videos never-before-available on a single commercial release, will be issued on November 11. Twenty-one core videos make up this unique collector's item with new 5.1 mixes and stereo remastered audio giving diehard MÖTLEY fans fresh new versions of their favorite songs. On top of the twenty-one core videos come six alternate videos ranging from the X-rated, uncensored versions of "Girls, Girls, Girls", "Hell On High Heels" and "Primal Scream" to an all-band performance of "Dr. Feelgood" and the 1991 remix of their signature ballad "Home Sweet Home". With twenty-seven videos in total there are a few hidden gems that fans are going to have to find to believe.

For the first time in years, Nikki Sixx and Tommy Lee came together and shot a new interview segment special for this DVD reflecting back to each video mixed with archival band personal footage ranging from the beginning of the CRÜE's unprecedented explosion as rock legends all the way through to their latest album, "New Tattoo".

A Personal Playlist is included to give CRÜEheads everywhere the chance to experience this once in a lifetime collection in the order they wish to view it. A complete album discography plus weblinks finish out this DVD as one of the greatest collections of music videos to date.

* First time release of MÖTLEY CRÜE videos on DVD
* 27 videos in total including 6 alternative videos that are uncensored, remixed or alternate versions.
* A new interview segment with Nikki Sixx and Tommy Lee only available on this DVD
* New 5.1 mixes and stereo remastered audio
* Personal Playlist - CRÜEheads choose the play sequence of the videos
* Discography
* Weblinks
* Easter eggs

Explicit Tracklisting:

01. Kickstart My Heart
02. Same Ol' Situation
03. Don't Go Away Mad (Just Go Away)
04. Without You
05. Wild Side
06. Girls, Girls, Girls
07. Dr. Feelgood
08. The Looks That Kill
09. Live Wire
10. You're All I Need
11. Too Young To Fall In Love
12. Primal Scream
13. Anarchy In The U.K.
14. Afraid
15. Smoke The Sky
16. Misunderstood
17. Enslaved
18. Smokin' In The Boys Room
19. Hooligan's Holiday
20. Hell On High Heels
21. Home Sweet Home

BONUS MATERIAL

Alternate Videos:

22. Girls, Girls, Girls (X-rated Version)
23. Dr. Feelgood (Alternate Version)
24. Primal Scream (Uncensored)
25. Misunderstood (Uncensored)
26. Hell On High Heels (Uncensored)
27. Home Sweet Home ('91 Remix)

New Interview segment with Nikki & Tommy
Personal Playlist
Discography
Weblinks

Edited Tracklisting:

01. Kickstart My Heart
02. Same Ol' Situation
03. Don't Go Away Mad
04. Without You
05. Wild Side
06. Girls, Girls, Girls
07. Dr. Feelgood
08. The Looks That Kill
09. Live Wire
10. Too Young Too Fall In Love
11. Smoke The Sky
12. Smokin' In The Boys Room
13. Hell On High Heels
14. Home Sweet Home

BONUS MATERIAL
Personal Playlist
Discography
Weblinks"

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Nu Ahrue can be nothing but bad news for South America. Sure after leaving the American shoreline at San Fransisco he'll just add to the ill nino effect and probably make whatever ill nino is doing bigger and more terrible. But it probably would have been better if it had remained over San Fran because then I could have picked on the yanks and the King does.

Ah amusing.

[Crabby]

And here's un update on the Soulfly situation-

"Bobby Burns (PRIMER 55, BEAUTIFUL) has confirmed via on online posting that he is currently rehearsing with SOULFLY mainman Max Cavalera as the group's temporary bassist following the sudden departure of Marcello D. Rapp, drummer Roy Mayorga, and guitarist Mike Doling. The revamped band, who are completed by guitarist Marc Rizzo (ex-ILL NINO) and drummer Joe Nunez (who played on the group's "Primitive" release and subsequent world tour), are expected to make their live debut this Thursday (September 25) at the Whiskey A-Go Go in Hollywood, California.

"Although I'm really not sure of the reasons why the other guys aren't in the band anymore, I've been friends with Max and [wife/manager] Gloria [Cavalera] for a long time now and I can't say anything bad about them," Burns writes. "Very, very nice folks, very down to earth, very loving, very caring. I just got out to [Phoenix, Arizona] yesterday [September 22] and we started rehearsing for the upcoming show and it's going great.. (the new SOULFLY songs rock ass, by the way). It makes me laugh when people think they know about someone when they don't. Max has NO ego and he's far from being stuck up. He's just very shy around people he doesn't know. That's all. He's a great guy and doesn't deserve a bad rap from anyone."

As previously reported, SOULFLY are scheduled to make the following live appearances this week:

Sep. 25 – Whiskey A-Go Go - Hollywood, CA
Sep. 26 - La Luna/Gotham - San Bernardino, CA
Sep. 27 - Marquee Theatre - Tempe, AZ

The group's performance in Tempe will be part of the 7th annual D-Low (Dana Wells) Memorial Show, which has been held every year since Dana's (stepson of Max) death in August 1996. SOULFLY are also working on an on October 18 show on the Navajo Indian Reservation on for their yearly fair. Several thousand people are expected to attend. More information will be made available soon.

Cavalera is expected to begin pre-production for the group's fourth album this fall for a tentative mid-2004 release through Roadrunner Records."

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Explicit Tracklisting:

01. Kickstart My Heart On PC
02. Same Ol' Situation On PC
03. Don't Go Away Mad (Just Go Away) On PC
04. Without You On PC
05. Wild Side On PC
06. Girls, Girls, Girls On PC
07. Dr. Feelgood On PC
08. The Looks That Kill On PC
09. Live Wire On PC
10. You're All I Need
11. Too Young To Fall In Love On PC
12. Primal Scream On PC
13. Anarchy In The U.K.
14. Afraid
15. Smoke The Sky
16. Misunderstood
17. Enslaved
18. Smokin' In The Boys Room
19. Hooligan's Holiday
20. Hell On High Heels
21. Home Sweet Home

BONUS MATERIAL

Alternate Videos:

22. Girls, Girls, Girls (X-rated Version) On PC
23. Dr. Feelgood (Alternate Version)
24. Primal Scream (Uncensored) On PC
25. Misunderstood (Uncensored)
26. Hell On High Heels (Uncensored)
27. Home Sweet Home ('91 Remix) On PC
"

But still sounds good. Especially about playing the songs in the order I want. All Music DVD's should be like that.

And I want Capitol to do a Megadeth one. Or at least sell the videos to Dave.

[Crabby]

Here's some more Motley Crue-related stuff I found on Blabbermouth anyway-

"MÖTLEY CRÜE/BRIDES OF DESTRUCTION bassist Nikki Sixx has posted the following message to the "Rock'n'Roll Diary" section of CRÜE's official web site:

"Hey guys.. Wanted to update you on some CRÜE news. We have a new labal (Universal Music) and they do a 'Millennium Series' of bands they work the catalog of, so we will be added to the series.

"Universal Europe wants to do a definitive 3-CD 1 DVD package for Europe only… The title is ... 'Loud As F#@K'.

"Our DVD greatest hits (greatest video hits) will be out November 11 of this year… Finally… It will have every video we ever did....

"Our box set is called 'Music To Crash Your Car To'… I'm hoping for it to be out this year but most likely first quarter of 2004... We've scrapped pretty hard with the re-releases so this is really a collector package and you won't find any new music, but if you don't have all the music and extras for some reason it's a nice way to get the whole career in one shot... Box sets don't always sell a lot but I think it's a cool thing to have.

"The writer is 80% done with the first draft of 'The Dirt' movie… I know he's been spending time with Tommy. Paramount is ready to green light the $ as soon as they approve the script...

"I speak to Tommy, Mick and Vince quite often, but I know Vince has some resentments that need to be ironed out. But if everybody wants to do a CRÜE tour I'm there… At this point for me a MÖTLEY CRÜE tour is not about the money. I'd really like to go out and give one last kick ass tour where everybody including the band walk away with a smile on there face.

"In the end, I'm powerless."

And have you seen Metallica's "Frantic" video yet,Dave? I hear there's a "Making Of" on-line as well.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

"The writer is 80% done with the first draft of 'The Dirt' movie… I know he's been spending time with Tommy. Paramount is ready to green light the $ as soon as they approve the script..."

That'd fucking own.

I'd get Corabi to play himself.

And yeah Vince slammed Nikki back on metal sludge about 4 months ago.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

And have you seen Metallica's "Frantic" video yet,Dave? I hear there's a "Making Of" on-line as well.

No I haven't.

STOP EDITING IN YOUR POSTS!

I should download it.

Simon should ban me for posting "off topic".

[QuietStorm]

Well...he should ban me for posting the false death of a living person.

[Crabby]

That'd fucking own.

I'd get Corabi to play himself.

And yeah Vince slammed Nikki back on metal sludge about 4 months ago.

As long as they keep that "Dylan" song that Tommy Lee wrote the hell out of that film.

Are you a fan of Methods Of Mayhem,or Tommy Lee's other solo stuff,Dave?

MFTB ticketing details are also released in the next few weeks.Yay.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

But that was a classic.

And how metal is this?


http://sung3.ifsi.rm.cnr.it/~dargaud/Antarctica/Life/EmperorMating.gif

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Are you a fan of Methods Of Mayhem,or Tommy Lee's other solo stuff,Dave?


No Tito sucks.

I'd rather jerk off a whale.

And haven't listening to his solo stuff. But Tommy is fairly weird to what he writes by himself. Nikkis the man.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I find sea creatures very Metal.

DONT PICK ON ME ABOUT IT!

And this turns Crabby on for some unknown reasons :shifty:


http://www.laughingsquid.org/images/matt_squid.jpg

And I think they play heavy music to the creatures because it's like the vibrations in the water are them talking to each other or something. I read it somewhere. I think.

[Crabby]

I think Tommy plays most of,if not all the instruments on his solo albums as well.Hmmmmm,interesting.

If you buy the new Alchemist soon,I'll hurry up and pick up a copy of WCFYA.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Tommy's weird as I said. He likes music which is cool at the time. I was chatting to Nikki about 3 weeks ago and he was saying something about Tommy trying to ride the in thing.

And I hear the in thing is prawn bondage.


http://www.prawnography.net/sections/media/strungup.jpg

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I hear this was the sword used in the Algalord chronicals.

Pretty cool huh.


http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/tmat/33563.jpg

Or something.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Are turtles metal?


http://www.ukagriculture.com/livestock/pigs/breeding/images_selected/Dsc00005.jpg



NP: Set The World Afire.


SOMEONE FUCKING ANSWER ME!

[Aussie_Outlaw]

What about pigs?


http://www.turtles.org/i3404006.jpg

I think the one at the back is Rob Halford. Must have been during his solo days.

[Crabby]

i found it amusing...not arousing

Dave,seek help.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

On lighter news.

I need a drink. And from what Tobias Sammet told me on the phone the other day this is the tower that is mentioned in the final song of Avantasia I


http://www.thehistorycompany.com/albums/steinbeck_country/sc1/mail_pouch_tank.JPG

[QuietStorm]

That should be your sig Crabby. Just put a / in there.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

OK if any of you didn't get it by now all the above pictures are from SoD's Seasoning Of The Obese.

Scott Ian, Billy Milano and co fucking rule.

And it's on a metal album so I figured I'd share it with everyone. With the silly comments. Well the creatures are. The sword is actually from the Algalord chronicals by Rhapsody.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

And while I'm posting pictures i'll post the one I have as my msn background. Some of you may recognise it.


http://www.seempieces.com/gallery/devintownsend/t_devin2.jpg

Guess where without looking at the address.

[Crabby]

I didn't think you were a Devy fan,Dave.

I must pick up the SOD album as well.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I'm not a big fan like you and NiMMERS but still it was tool cool to pass up.

I just love Travis Smith's artwork. Especially on the Nevermore DHIADW album.

My brother likes him too and he's an artisty type kid.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Written out as sung. And this is a long and fast song.


You take great pride in never having lived up to anything
Lie, steal, cheat, and kill, a real bad guy
Your daddy is a wino, and your mommy is quite insane
From altar boy to sewer rat, you don't give a damn
Your sister's a junkie, get "it" anyway she can
Your brother's a gay singer in a stud leather band
Your girlfriend's got herpes to go with your help and aids
There ain't one person you know you ain't rip off yet

Look deep in the mirror, look deep into its eyes
Your face is replaced, a creature you despise
But I know what you're made of, it ain't much I'm afraid
I know you'll be lying until your dying day

Make up your stories, but truth's so hard to say
Brain is numb and your tongue will surely did you grave
Your mind is sickly from Alzheimer's disease
And decadence and debauchery killed your memories

You're a liar, liar, liar, everyone can see
Liar, liar, liar, it's all you'll ever be
Liar, liar, liar, it's what you mean to me
Liar, liar, liar ...

Start trouble, spread pain
Piss and venom in your veins
Talk nasty, breathe fire
Smell rotten you're liar
Sweat liquor, breathe snot
Eat garbage, spit blood
Diseased, health hazard
Scum bag, filthy bastard
Grease face, teeth decay
Hair matted, drunk all day
Abscessed, sunken veins
Rot gut, scrambled brain
Steal money, crash cars
Rob jewelry, hock guitars
Rot in hell, it's time you know
To your master, off you go

You're a liar
A fucking liar
Filthy liar
Liar
You fucking liar
Liar


Gotta love actually knowing the lyrics. Makes it easier to catch up during solos and bridges. May actually be my favourite song along with RIP... Polaris and Set The World Afire.

[QuietStorm]

I was at the Travis Smith forum at UltimateMetal and someone came up with a cover for the new DT. I thought it looked pretty good but Travis shot it down. He said it looked like some cover he did in '93 but this one wasn't his work. Can't wait to see what he has created.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

The new stratovarius cover looks fucking amazing. Sure gay and powermetaly but still awesome.


http://www.stratovarius.com/images/elements2cover.jpg

[QuietStorm]

Elements Pt. 1 was the first Stratovarius album I heard. So I definitely won't be missing out on this one. Is there a set release date yet? Because the other one was release this winter right? So anything more this year would be a lot. Early 2004 right?

Although Opeth did release their two albums within 7 months of each other. Weren't they originally thinking of making that a double album until they decided it wouldn't fit well together and they didn't want fans to pay for something they might not want.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

On The Stratovarius website


ELEMENTS PART 2
IN STORES
27th OCTOBER 2003!!!

So I have no idea when it's coming out.

[Crabby]

I think the plan was always to release "Deliverance" and "Damnation" like that,and they were recorded in the same sessions.Also,they were to only count for one album in the band's recording contract.Needless to say,both fucking rule.

[QuietStorm]

Thanks, sarcastic Dave. Asshole. :)

Edit: Need some metal in here...Ummmm, should I download The Chainheart Machine?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Anytime Bro.

I'm a backpacker yo

:D

*smells dead fish*

*goes back a page*

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooo


.... or something.

[Crabby]

Thanks, sarcastic Dave. Asshole. :)

Edit: Need some metal in here...Ummmm, should I download The Chainheart Machine?

Either that or "A Predator's Portrait", both very good albums IMO.

[SideburnZ]

Thanks, sarcastic Dave. Asshole. :)

Edit: Need some metal in here...Ummmm, should I download The Chainheart Machine?

No, you shouldnt. It lacks both hip and hop.

[QuietStorm]

Well..."Bulletbeast" is kind of hip hoppish isn't it?

So you wanna play rough?
Say hello to my little friend
With my finger on the trigger
You're watching the judge of today

[SideburnZ]

Well..."Bulletbeast" is kind of hip hoppish isn't it?

So you wanna play rough?
Say hello to my little friend
With my finger on the trigger
You're watching the judge of today

Hip hop would have rhymed trigger with nigger.

[QuietStorm]

Depends what hip hop you are talking about. Most of the stuff I listen to wouldn't. Definitely not Aesop Rock since he is white.

[SideburnZ]

Normally I'd carry on with this dumbass conversation, but I fear Simone might close this thread or ban me. So ...

METAL METAL METAL METAL METAL

[Kris]

I want to start getting into gay German Powermetal.

RECOMMEND PLZ. thx.

[Ms. Morningstar]

like Turbonegro ?

[Crabby]

I'd say Turbonegro are more punk/glam/hard rock.But I'm seeing em' next month,I'm really looking foward to it. I hear their live show is fucking insane.

[Grimario]

I think the plan was always to release "Deliverance" and "Damnation" like that,and they were recorded in the same sessions.Also,they were to only count for one album in the band's recording contract.Needless to say,both fucking rule.

I read somewhere that they were planned as a double disc album from the onset but marketing decided that to mix the two styles would pigeon hole the fans. "Metal" fans wouldn't be interested in the acoustic stuff, and people who weren't interested in metal would overlook the acoustic stuff. I got Damnation on NiMMERS recommendation and, after having listened to bits of Deliverance (I think thats what he played me earlier this year) I can agree with the marketing idea. Not that it really effects me as I didn't quite "buy" the album.... but ya know what I mean.


Kind of went on a downloading spree yesterday and (nearly) completed the Iced Earth back catalogue. All I have left to get a few off the Tribute to the Gods album and I am done. :yes:

[Ms. Morningstar]

I'd say Turbonegro are more punk/glam/hard rock.But I'm seeing em' next month,I'm really looking foward to it. I hear their live show is fucking insane.

They're cool. You're lucky you get to see like 800 concerts a year, I'm not allowed to go to any.

[Crabby]

Grim, are you coming with NiMMERS,Monks,myself,etc,to Strapping Young Lad in October?

[QuietStorm]

I want to start getting into gay German Powermetal.

RECOMMEND PLZ. thx.
Blind Guardian. For me it starts and ends there. Get Nightfall in Middle-Earth and Imaginations From the Other Side.

[Grimario]

Nah Crabby, I'm not much of a Devy fan..... unless the whole set sounds like DTB's Slow Me Down.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Normally I'd carry on with this dumbass conversation, but I fear Simone might close this thread or ban me. So ...

METAL METAL METAL METAL METAL

Yeah opposed to what was going on for the page before that.

[NiMMERS]

I hear this was the sword used in the Algalord chronicals.

Pretty cool huh.


http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/tmat/33563.jpg

Or something.

I'm storming the castle, I have my sword....it's METALLLLLLLLLLL!

Zimmers Hole are great lyricists.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Remember the top 100 guitarists list a month or so back that had Hammet in the top 10? Wasn't that a load of crap? Well us kids over at MaidenDownunder decided to compile our own list roughly with a few polls.

You can see the bias for a few bands but hey, it's still better:


1. Adrian Smith (Iron Maiden)
2. Randy Rhoads (Ozzy)
3. Dave Murray (Iron Maiden)
4. Eddie Van Halen (Van Halen)
5. John Petrucci (Dream Theater)
6. Steve Vai
7. Dave Mustaine (Megadeth)
8. Brian May (Queen)
9. Steve Morse (Deep Purple)
10. Marty Friedman (Megadeth)
11. Angus Young (AC/DC)
12. Tony Iommi (Black Sabbath)
13. Glenn Tipton (Judas Priest)
14. Al Pitrelli (Alice Cooper/Savatage/Megadeth)
15. James Hetfield (Metallica)
16. Zakk Wylde (Ozzy/BLS)
17. Chuck Schuldiner (Death)
18. Janick Gers (Iron Maiden)
19. Jon Schaffer (Iced Earth)
20. Joe Satriani
21. Jimmy Page (Led Zeppelin)
22. Kirk Hammett (Metallica)
23. Ritchie Blackmore (Deep Purple/Rainbow)
24. Slash (Guns N Roses)
25. Eric Clapton
26. Mark Knopfler (Dire Straits)
27. Tommy Emmanuel
28. David Gilmour (Pink Floyd)
29. Michael Amott (Carcass/Arch Enemy)
30. KK Downing (Judas Priest)
31. Vivan Campbell (Dio/Def Leppard)
32. Kai Hansen (Helloween/Gamma Ray)
33. George Lynch (Dokken)
34. Carlos Santana
35. Bruce Kulick
36. Malcolm Young (AC/DC)
37. Jeff Loomis (Nevermore)
38. Yngwie J. Malmsteen
39. Steve Clark (Def Leppard)
40. Kerry King (Slayer)
41. Chris DeGarmo (Queensryche)
42. Jason Becker
43. Alexei Laiho (Children of Bodom)
44. Jimi Hendrix
45. Ian Moss (Cold Chisel)
46. Phil Collen (Def Leppard)
47. Jeff Hanneman (Slayer)
48. Alex Lifeson (Rush)
49. Alex Skolnick (Testament)
50. Mick Mars (Motley Crue)
51. Scott Ian (Anthrax)
52. Michael Wilton (Queensryche)
53. Vinnie Vincent (Kiss/VVI)
54. Trey Azagthoth (Morbid Angel)
55. Gary Moore
56. Michael Schenker (UFO/MSG)
57. Chris Poland (Megadeth)
58. Eric Peterson (Testament)
59. James Murphy (Death/Obituary/Testament)
60. Jake E Lee (Ozzy)
61. Uli Jon Roth (Scorpions)
62. Richie Sambora (Bon Jovi)
63. Stevie Ray Vaughan
64. Roland Grapow (Helloween)
65. Ace Frehley (Kiss)
66. Anders Bjorler (At the Gates/The Haunted)
67. Andy LaRocque (King Diamond)
68. Steve Stevens
69. Steve Howe (Yes)
70. Nuno Bettencourt (Extreme)
71. George Harrison
72. CC Deville (Poison)
73. Pete Townshend (The Who)
74. Neal Schon (Journey)
75. Keith Richards (Rolling Stones)
76. Dimebag Darrell (Pantera)
77. Jeff Beck
78. Chuck Berry
79. The Edge (U2)
80. Craig Goldy (Dio)
81. Jim Martin (Faith No More)
82. Criss Oliva (Savatage)
83. Dave Sabo (Skid Row)
84. Robert Fripp (King Crimson)
85. Vernon Reid (Living Colour)
86. Joe Perry (Aerosmith)
87. Chris Caffery (Savatage)
88. Andy Summers (The Police)
90. Richie Kotzen
91. Kim Thayil (Soundgarden)
92. Billy Gibbons (ZZ Top)
93. Kevin Borich
94. Tony Macalpine
95. Jerry Cantrell (Alice in Chains)
96. Ted Nugent
97. Vinnie Moore
98. Donald "Buck Dharma" Roeser (Blue Oyster Cult)
99. "Fast" Eddie Clark (Motorhead)
100. Ry Cooder

[Crabby]

I went and caught The Butterfly Effect last night,I must say there were pretty good.I'll definitely have to pick up their album sometime soon.

[Ringo]

Who likes Hypocrisy? Last night was the first time I listened to 'Fire In The Sky' properly... and it's absolutely amazing.. what do you all think of them?

[NiMMERS]

I went and caught The Butterfly Effect last night,I must say there were pretty good.I'll definitely have to pick up their album sometime soon.

I got it for my Mum for her birthday this year.
I'm not exactly impressed by it. Sounds a bit formulaic and generic to me. I reckon they're capable of much better things. Still, the bloke has an amazing voice.


Who likes Hypocrisy? Last night was the first time I listened to 'Fire In The Sky' properly... and it's absolutely amazing.. what do you all think of them?

Not a huge fan, although they're pretty big and have been around for a while. Peter Tagtren is a fairly big producer in metal at his Abyss Studios. I think he's worked with a few big bands like Immortal etc etc.

[Crabby]

I got it for my Mum for her birthday this year.
I'm not exactly impressed by it. Sounds a bit formulaic and generic to me. I reckon they're capable of much better things. Still, the bloke has an amazing voice.



Not a huge fan, although they're pretty big and have been around for a while. Peter Tagtren is a fairly big producer in metal at his Abyss Studios. I think he's worked with a few big bands like Immortal etc etc.

I've heard the album and I quite like it,though I reckon the EP is better.Still,they're a pretty good live band.And you bought The Butterfly Effect as a present for your mum? Cool stuff anyway.

[Kris]

I'm currently listening to Powerslave and I'd just like it to be noted that Rime of the Ancient Mariner is fuckin' brilliance.

[NiMMERS]

I've heard the album and I quite like it,though I reckon the EP is better.Still,they're a pretty good live band.And you bought The Butterfly Effect as a present for your mum? Cool stuff anyway.

Even the Sunday Telegraph gave it a panning and they usually give any one hit wonder bands rave reviews. It got 2 stars. They got it right by saying there's heaps of atmosphere but there is no catchy tunes at all. But they're great live.

Who knows if they'll go anywhere...I thought Cog had a better chance but nothing seems to be happening. They went extremely left-field with JV Part 2. There was nothing resembling a proper song on it.

[Crabby]

I think The Butterfly Effect have a sound that is much more likely to strike a chord with the masses,methinks.I'm hoping Cog are the next Aussie heavy act to get picked up by a major label and get some much deserved promotion.

I actually dig JV Part 2 more than the first,actually.

[NiMMERS]

I've always been a 'I like your old stuff better than your new stuff kinda guy'..........except when it comes to Devy.

[Ms. Morningstar]

I've been listening to alot of Nevermore lately, and I really like their music. I also like Iron Maiden, Hammerfall, Arch Enemy, and Fozzy. Someone recommend some songs by some other similar bands I might like.

[Nemesis]

Just got my CDs in the mail this weekend.

Immortal's 'Damned in Black' is excellent. Just like SoND, there's nothing bad about it. I could see how a fan of old-school metal could easily like this one. Next I'll probably get the 'At the Heart of Winter' and just keep going backwards.

The new Dimmu Borgir is ok, but I'm not totally into it yet at least. It sounds too much like Old Man's Child (who are awesome, but if I wanted Old Man's Child, I'd just buy that instead). There's good songs, but it just seemed like, overall, they didn't really let loose like they did on 'Enthrone Darkness Triumphant' or especially 'Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia.' If you're comparing this to Cradle of Filth's new one (since these bands are endlessly compared to each other anyway), CoF definitely had the better album. CoF kept an intensity in their music that 'Death Cult Armageddon' seemed to fall a bit short of reaching.

And I also paid extra just for a gatefold digipak and a so-so bonus track. :\

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I've been listening to alot of Nevermore lately, and I really like their music. I also like Iron Maiden, Hammerfall, Arch Enemy, and Fozzy. Someone recommend some songs by some other similar bands I might like.

Hammerfall: Blind Guardian, Stratovarius
Iron Maiden: Judas Priest, Helloween (could also be said to be a founder of HammerFall's sound)
Arch Enemy: In Flames, Soilwork, Children of Bodom

And any of the bands Fozzy cover.(ie Motley Crue, Maiden, Accept, Ozzy etc)

[NiMMERS]

Immortal's 'Damned in Black' is excellent. Just like SoND, there's nothing bad about it. I could see how a fan of old-school metal could easily like this one. Next I'll probably get the 'At the Heart of Winter' and just keep going backwards.


'At The Heart of Winter' rules. Immortal rules full stop. My favourite black metal band and one of my all time favourites.

JerichoMania....I can't really speak for the power metal bands you listed but as for Arch Enemy go with Outlaws' reccomendations but go for these guys too: At The Gates, Darkest Hour, Darkane, Killswitch Engage, Omnium Gatherum, The Haunted, Carcass, Carnal Forge, The Crown, Dark Tranquility, Shadow's Fall, Old Man's Child (only their latest one, 'In Defiance Of Existance') and Witchery.

[Crabby]

I got my tickets for Queens Of The Stone Age today,I'm hopeful that Nick Olivieri's side-project Mondo Generator will also be added to the bill,as originally planned.Rock.

[NiMMERS]

My oder for Lamb of God's 'New American Gospel' came in today.

Go out and buy it and their latest one, 'As The Palaces Burn'.

Don't even think about it. Just do it.

[Crabby]

The details for the Sepultura Aussie tour are up on the Ticketek site.They're $58.80 for Sydney and are on-sale this Friday.I might not be able to get mine until the weekend,though,so hopefully it doesn't sell out.Yay.

[Nemesis]

Don't know why I keep thinking of stuff to do on here, but list some bands that nobody talks about on here if you want.

Acid Bath
Surprisingly, these guys aren't very well known. They have some fairly heavy stuff, but they're softer songs like "Graveflower" are their best. The best thing I could call them to give you an idea of how they sound is goth metal, but even that doesn't do them justice. They have a CD that features paintings by John Wayne Gacy in the booklet ('When the Kite String Pops'), and another one featuring Jack Kevorkian's artwork ('Paegan Terrorism Tactics'). It's a damn shame they're not still around, but I think one of the guys is in Goatwhore now.

Biohazard
Everyone knows who they are, but a lot of people forget about them. Their new stuff isn't so great (at least what I've heard ), but State of the World Address was an awesome CD, Urban Discipline, too. "Tales From the Hardside" was awesome. I saw several of their videos on Headbangers Ball way back, but I've never met a Biohazard fan that I know of.

Amon Amarth
Unfortunately, I only own one CD by these guys, but it's pretty fucking cool. "Sound of Eight Hooves" almost sounds like a war song (well, according to Norse mythology, it is one) and is probably the best song on the CD.

[NiMMERS]

The details for the Sepultura Aussie tour are up on the Ticketek site.They're $58.80 for Sydney and are on-sale this Friday.I might not be able to get mine until the weekend,though,so hopefully it doesn't sell out.Yay.

Shit eh? Back in 99 or 00 or whenever I saw em it was $42.90. Since then, if anything their profile has gone down. What a gloriously priced ticket!

[Crabby]

We should get some quality support acts,though.Seps' profile may be lower but really,as a whole,ticket prices have increased anyway.

[Alex E]

Hammerfall: Blind Guardian, Stratovarius
Iron Maiden: Judas Priest, Helloween (could also be said to be a founder of HammerFall's sound)


I agree somewhat on that. I think other bands like Hammerfall could include Gamma Ray, Dream Evil, Rhapsody and Rage (recently). For Blind Guardian to resemble Hammerfall at all, you'd have to go back a few albums. If you want Hammerfallish BG, check out Lost in the Twilight Hall, Welcome to Dying, and older stuff.

I just got my hands on a copy of a (the?) Hammerfall comic book... :scared:

edit: And how could I forget. Any Hammerfall fan needs to hear Kamelot. Check out Forever, The Fourth Legacy, Karma, and anything from the last 3 studio albums. You need not check Dominion :nono:

[Nemesis]

Hahahaha, my girlfriend rules. I think she's intrigued by black metal.

During the drive home from Kansas City last weekend, she was asking me about the music I listened to (We were listening to Dark Funeral at the time). Somehow, I got to telling her about the church burnings and murders and stuff, and she thought everything sounded pretty interesting. I let her borrow my copy of Lords of Chaos to read over, and I think she's reading it even faster than I did.

It's weird to hear her talk on the phone about Dead's suicide and Quarthon from Bathory, but it's a really cool weird.

I'm just hoping she enjoys the concert in December.

[NiMMERS]

We should get some quality support acts,though.Seps' profile may be lower but really,as a whole,ticket prices have increased anyway.

Well they had Superheist last time and I didnt think much of them nor do I now.

[Nemesis]

Man, I'm starting to like Krisiun. Listening to it now...anyone heard of them? The drummer likes blast beats...that's all he does on the entire album. But it's still awesome. There's a part where he gets insanely fast (not Berzerker fast though) which kicks ass. Crazy fucking satanic death metal. :headbang:

[NiMMERS]

I've heard of Krisiun. Insane Brazillian grind/death. If you like insane drumming check out Cryptopsy. It's awesome and it's the most technical death metal you'll ever hear.

Get their new live album 'None So Live : Live In Montreal'. I heard 'Cold Hate, Warm Blood' on the radio and I went out and got it the next day.

[Nemesis]

I have their Whisper Supremacy CD, that fucking kills. That drummer is badass. I'll get the live one sometime, though.

[Kris]

That dude out of the berzerker may as well be a fucking machine, the dude is like a fucking machine gun.

[NiMMERS]

As far as I know, most of/some of The Berzerker's drums are from a drum machine. Obviously not live.

Saw some bands the other night. My mates band were good as usual. Then on came Ebolie. I thought they were going to suck cos they were mucking around being silly previously to their set. But it was awesome death/grind. They had the best stage moves ever. Awesome slap bass playing as well. Anyone who has a 4 second song named 'Roy' is good in my books.

[NiMMERS]

Good ol' JB Hi Fi. You order in a CD and they put it on the shelves.

So I picked up my ordered in copy of Mayhem's 'De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas'. Also nabbed Def Leppard's 'Hysteria'....$15 I couldnt resist. Awesome spacey guitars.

[Crabby]

I picked up my Sepultura ticket while in Sydney the last few days,I'm pretty pumped up for an awesome night of metal.

Also visited Utopia and picked up Halford's live album and the The Butterfly Effect's "Begins Here".

Anyway,off to watch the NRL grand final.

[Crabby]

Here's the full Metal For The Brain line-up,tickets are $55 and go on-sale pretty soon-

KERRANG! STAGE-
Damaged
Blood Duster
Destroyer
Dungeon
Earth
Astriaal
Psycroptic
Sakkuth
Infernal Method
Tourettes

TRIPLE-J STAGE-
Alchemist
Superheist
Cog
Jerk Atomizer
Frankenbok
Forte
Psychrist
Daysend
Embodiment 12:14
The Stockholm Syndrome

UTOPIA RECORDS STAGE-
Hobbs Angel of Death
KIN
Vanishing Point
Atomizer
Pod People
Fuck I’m Dead
Contrive
Mindsnare
Gospel of the Horns
Flesh Mechanic
Captain Cleanoff
D Nine
Shatterwrath
LOG

[Monkey]

Fuck I'm glad they've finally said somehting about ticket prices, now I know what sorta price range I can aim at for a hotel/motle kind of situation.....

Picked up both Kill-Switch Engage Albums and Opeth - Damnation last night at JB, shall actually listen to them sometime today.

Also, may be in a band too :)
After 7 years, I'm finally going to be playing a genre I actually listen to on a regular basis! Whooooooo!

Just happens to be Nimmers mates band too :)

[Ms. Morningstar]

What other Killswitch Engage album is there besides Alive or Just Breathing?

[QuietStorm]

I think Green Carnation's Light of Day, Day of Darkness may be my favorite album ever. So much diversity on one 60 minute track. Sure, the lyrics aren't all that but everything else is so perfect that the lyrics aren't even really needed. Check this amazing album out if you haven't.

[Crabby]

I heard some more of the new Machine Head album on FMR last night,I must say I'm kinda hopeful about it now.

[NiMMERS]

What other Killswitch Engage album is there besides Alive or Just Breathing?

It's on an independant label Ferrett Records I reckon. I think it came out some time before their Roadrunner debut.


I think Green Carnation's Light of Day, Day of Darkness may be my favorite album ever. So much diversity on one 60 minute track. Sure, the lyrics aren't all that but everything else is so perfect that the lyrics aren't even really needed. Check this amazing album out if you haven't.

I have 'A Blessing In Disguise' and it's great. Something you wouldnt expect from a band of such great black metal pedigree (Emperor, Satyricon etc). Might have to look out for the 1 hour masterpiece.


I heard some more of the new Machine Head album on FMR last night,I must say I'm kinda hopeful about it now.

I've heard a track and a half. It's not 'Burn My Eyes' or their last 2 weak efforts...but a return to old form to some degree. I don't know if I'll be completely sold on it once I hear some more tracks. A friend who was a fan during their glory days was not impressed by it much.

[Crabby]

The new Frankenbok also sounds promising,Haugy said it's out later this month.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Haugy lies and doesn't give cd's to other radio stations. :D

So I say it's out now.

[Crabby]

And you know this?

Hopefully Daysend are selling their new album at the SYL show. (Only a few weeks to go!!!!!!).

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Haugy didnt give Century media cds to one of the guy's at PBS, then the PBS guy bitched him out on air and was fired.

Twas amusing.

[Crabby]

Here's a Slayer update-

" SLAYER FOUR-DISC BOX SET SOUNDTRACK TO THE APOCALYPSE FEATURES ALBUM TRACKS, RARITIES AND DVD OF LIVE PERFORMANCES; FIVE-DISC DELUXE EDITION ADDS CONCERT CD...


Slayer, the fastest, heaviest and darkest band on the planet, goes to extremes for its first retrospective. A three-CD/one-DVD box set regular edition and four-CD/one-DVD specially packaged "ammo box" for the deluxe version, Soundtrack To The Apocalypse (American Recordings/UMe), released November 25, 2003, celebrates the visceral assault that is Slayer.

A Slayer fan's ultimate experience, Soundtrack To The Apocalypse includes tracks spanning every Slayer album since 1986, soundtrack cuts, Japan-only tracks, more than a dozen rarities, and a DVD of live performances spanning 20 years, all digitally remastered. The deluxe edition adds a full-length concert CD from Slayer's 2002 God Hates Us All tour stop in Anaheim, CA, presented in a "blood pack" sleeve (with faux blood and floating skulls). The tour was the band's first with original drummer Dave Lombardo since 1992. The deluxe edition also includes a wall banner and replica backstage laminate. Both editions have an extensive booklet spotlighting a history based on interviews with each member and long-time producer Rick Rubin.

Disc 1 opens with five tracks from Slayer's 1986 major label debut, Reign In Blood, considered the most brutal thrash metal album of all time. Among the fan favorites are "Postmortem" and "Raining Blood." The album was the first of four consecutive gold studio albums, an impressive feat for a band that receives little radio or MTV exposure. From 1988's South Of Heaven are five tracks, including the title track. Culled from 1990's Seasons In The Abyss are another quintet, including "Dead Skin Mask." 1991's live Decade Of Aggression contributes three--"Chemical Warfare" and "Hell Awaits" among them.

Disc 2 continues the chronology with five recordings from 1994's Divine Intervention, three from 1996's Undisputed Attitude, a trio from 1998's Diabolus In Musica and another three from 2001's God Hates Us All. Songs heard on various soundtracks are joined by two cuts previously unreleased in the U.S. from the Japanese Diabolus In Musica, two more from the import God Hates Us All and a bonus cover of the Suicidal Tendencies' "Memories Of Tomorrow" from the Japan-only Undisputed Attitude.

Disc 3 focuses on rarities, from the earliest known Slayer recordings (previously unreleased 1983 live tracks) to seminal tracks taken from the band's garage rehearsals and even home demo recordings. The Disc 4 DVD showcases performances throughout the band's career and throughout the world as well as various TV appearances from singer-bassist Tom Araya, guitarists Kerry King and Jeff Hanneman, and Lombardo.

Slayer is the band all other such heavy bands are measured against, defining not only a genre but an attitude. As Marc Paschke writes in the liner notes: "It's about restrained aggression and impending danger. It's about the dark cloud that fills the room, energized by the anger and hate and hostility of the audience…Most of all, it's about feeling good."

Soundtrack To The Apocalypse--it's the feel-good box set for the end of the world."

[NiMMERS]

I dunno if any of you are fans of The Haunted, but the vocalist for their last 3 records (including Live Rounds) has left to 'pursue other interests'. They got their old vocalist back, Peter Dolving. Supposedly when he left he was all over Swedish tv doing all this folk and children's music.

Yes, SYL and Daysend draw closer. Oh yes.

I'll have to round up the troops to get Seps tickets this weekend.

[Crabby]

No announcement for supporting acts for Seps yet.Oh well. I'm also wondering who's going to open for SYL/Daysend. \m/

[Monkey]

they should get ebolie to do it!

lol \m/

[NiMMERS]

Well Frankenbok would make my day...

[GameOver!]

I just may need to pick up that Slayer box set. :shifty:

[Alex E]

I think Green Carnation's Light of Day, Day of Darkness may be my favorite album ever. So much diversity on one 60 minute track. Sure, the lyrics aren't all that but everything else is so perfect that the lyrics aren't even really needed. Check this amazing album out if you haven't.

It is diverse, but not amazingly so. The vocals vary, as do the instruments, but at its core LOD,DOD is a plodding song. I've never actually managed to get through the whole thing at once, mostly because people start talking to me. The Odyssey is about the length of a practical epic song, imo.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Edguy signed with Nuclear Blast.

All sounds good for the future. :)

And less than a month (Nov 11) till the next DT record.

[Kris]

WOOOOOOOOO DT out on my Birfday

[Crabby]

I was on the Opeth site before,and it seems their Aussie tour will bein in Adelaide on December 9 and end with THREE SHOWS in Melbourne on the 13th,14th and 15th.You lucky Melbournites.It seems there may be some type of live recording happening,seeing as SYL recorded their live album at the Hi-Fi Bar.

Dave and other people down that way,if you don't go to at least one of those shows I will ritually slaughter you.

[NiMMERS]

What about Sydney?!

I doubt there will be any recordings as I read they're in the process of mixing it all up for the double live dvd.

[Crabby]

I imagine it will be between the 10th and 12th of December.I'm hoping it's on an appropriate date.

I was reading a mate's copy of Kerrang! at uni today,and they gave the Soilwork show in Sydney 2K's,which I must say is more than a little harsh and somewhat inaccurate.

[NiMMERS]

Err judging by the crowd's reaction it'd be 5. Any reason they gave it 2?

[Monkey]

indeed!
It would seem Kerrang! have once again proved that ALL their reviewers are on smack!

As a side note, you guys would be ashamed of me.
Betcha no-one can guess what I'm listening to now! And it ain't metal!

:)

[Crabby]

The reviewer seemed to think the sound was shocking (a vast over-statement,it could have been better but it was far from awful),and just said their show was very predictable, amongst other things anyway.

[Monkey]

I was on the Opeth site before,and it seems their Aussie tour will bein in Adelaide on December 9 and end with THREE SHOWS in Melbourne on the 13th,14th and 15th.You lucky Melbournites.It seems there may be some type of live recording happening,seeing as SYL recorded their live album at the Hi-Fi Bar.


Another source rang the Hi-Fi bar and they said that they're doing one under 18 show and 2 x 18+ shows

[Crabby]

If Melbourne are getting three shows there's a good chance Sydney may get two as well methinks.They will be fucking awesome shows.

[NiMMERS]

I bet you're listening to Timberlake.

[Crabby]

Nah,it's got to be Savage Garden-that concert all those years ago changed him.

New Machine Head is out on October 27 I believe.

[Crabby]

Haugy said on FMR last night that Metal For The Brain tickets go on-sale from Ticketek on Monday.So there you go anyway.

[NiMMERS]

We'll be surely getting tickets for it.

Crabby, how are you getting down there and are you statying anywhere, Monkey sent me all these details on a backpackers lodge but I aint keen on that. I'm more in for a cheap motel.

I'll ask my bro, he's practically lived there this year working.

[Crabby]

I'll either be getting a lift with a few mates from uni,or getting public transport down there.I think there's a distinct possibility that I'll be staying at my mate's sister's place the night before and after the show.

SYL draws closer!!!!!! I might check a few street presses,try and find out who the opening act will be anyway.

[Crabby]

Here's another amusing Kerry King rant-

"SLAYER guitarist Kerry King gave a lengthy interview to Metal Edge magazine in which he discussed a number of topics, including the progress of the songwriting sessions for SLAYER's next album and METALLICA's evolution from an underground thrash phenomenon to one of the most commercially successful heavy rock bands in the world.

The following are some of the highlights of King's interview with Metal Edge:

Q: What did you think of METALLICA "Icon" on MTV, did you see it?

Kerry King: "You know, someone called me the day before and said, 'I can get you into the show.' I was like, 'Yeah, it might be cool to check out.' I was thinking about it, but I'm like, 'I'm not sure I'm ready to suck METALLICA's dick yet. I haven't heard the new record, and I don't want to be on that bandwagon. I knew it was going to be an MTV event and everyone was going to be sucking METALLICA's dick, and it was going to be a huge snooze fest and I didn't want to be a part of it. I did watch the whole thing, I Tivo-ed it, and it took me like three or four sittings to get through it, because I couldn't stomach the whole thing. How the fuck do you let SNOOP DOGG get in there and butcher your song? Yet I watched it, and it sounded like somebody gave him the lines backstage and he just learned them. How is that good? That irritated the hell out of me. That just really offended me… Then you see Lars grooving to the drums, doing air drums, and I'm like, 'What the fuck are you listening to, dude?' "

Q: Are you guys friends with METALLICA, both being [originally] from [Southern California]?

Kerry King: "We've never been close friends, we've pretty much been acquaintances, at best. All these years, we got the one show at Giant Stadium, the Tattoo The Earth show METALLICA did. We did one Donington with METALLICA in like '94, and probably a handful of club dates when we were nobody. That's it. It's not like we cross paths that often."

Q: So there wasn't a sense of camaraderie from the onset?

Kerry King: "No. I loved METALLICA in the beginning, I used to go to Woodstock in Orange County and watch them when [Dave] Mustaine was in the band. I thought Mustaine's shit didn't stink — and so did Mustaine, that's his problem. I was just blown away! Me and Jeff [Hannemann] would go up to Woodstock and pay money just to go see METALLICA, because Mustaine would be up there ripping through everything! Everything on that album, even the leads that are on the album, are what Mustaine played — not even looking at what he was playing, just ripping. We were just blown away by that. I was a fan, for sure. I mean, even through 'Puppets', I was still a fan. When I was a kid, I was a PRIEST fan and a MAIDEN fan, but if I had a band I liked and they made a record I didn't like, I was just offended. When PRIEST put out 'Point Of Entry', I just burned it. I was like, 'How could you do this to me?' Then I kind of felt that way with '…And Justice For All', it was kind of a letdown to me, the mix was kind of weird. There were some great songs on it, but to me, it wasn't better than 'Puppets'. Then when they did that whole 'Load'/'Reload' thing, I was just… There are probably a lot of people on this planet that were pretty put aside. I even like the 'Black' record. It's no 'Master Of Puppets', but it's got some fuckin' heavy shit on it."

Later in the interview, King brought up METALLICA's name once again, saying, "You know what is really weird? I'll bring up the new METALLICA record again. How do you have one of the best guitar players on the planet and not let him play anything? You have 75 minutes of whatever you call it, and you're not letting Kirk [Hammett] play a lead? That's where you made your bread and butter for the last 20 years! How do you do that? I have no idea. I mean, I played that record ['St. Anger'] twice, and that's all I am ever going to play it. I played it once, and then I had to make sure, but I just don't' get it. This isn't METALLICA bashing — I mean, I am holding back, trust me."

Q: Have you written anything for a new record yet?

Kerry King: "Jeff probably has like four or five songs on CD, and when he makes his stuff and presents it to us, it's like finished — drum machine, bass guitar, everything. When I present mine, it's guitar on a cassette tape, 'Here you go!' That's the difference. Me and Dave [Lombardo] have been working stuff out, we probably have played like four-and-a-half, five tunes. With the touring, with the break we got for press, the tour I got coming up next week in Europe, it's hard to focus on new stuff. Just before we came out here, me and Dave were like, 'Let's get our feet wet.' It's very exciting stuff. I mean, three out of the four we did are traditional fuckin' SLAYER tunes with breaks out of nowhere, and speed going here, and a chunk going on there… Then there's random one that we worked on that's more like a 'Gemini' [off 'Undisputed Attitude'] tune. It's all traditional SLAYER in different periods of what SLAYER is and has been. I can't wait to get serious about it and start working on it, but we are looking at putting it out in March, April, May? I can't guarantee it, but I would put some hard cash on it going out before summer."


And here's his thoughts on the Slayer box set-

"SLAYER guitarist Kerry King recently spoke to Guitar.com about the group's long-awaited box set, "Soundtrack To The Apocalypse", due on November 25 through American Recordings/Ume.

"There's tons of stuff on there," he said. "The problem was that we had too much stuff. I've got five big Tupperware boxes — the big storage boxes that you find in a garage — and I've got those full of stuff that I've collected over the years. I've got every magazine that I've seen us in, and I probably have around 70 VHS and 8 mm videos dating back to '83. So we just had tons of shit to sift through everything. I think the first two discs are just audio. Basically, we picked through all our records, and I think 'Disorder' from the 'Judgment Night' soundtrack [with Ice-T] is on there. Then there's a disc of audio rarities, and there's a DVD with a lot of the stuff we picked from the stuff I've filmed over the years, and some of our other TV engagements. There's a bigger box, which will have a fifth disc with pieces of a live concert from [original drummer] Dave Lombardo's first tour back. There's also a 70-page book, and a cool banner. They put their minds to it and came up with some good stuff!

When asked who selected material for the box set, King said, "I think we all just spewed up a bunch of stuff for people to choose from. We told them to give us back a disc of what they thought were the best things. Then we'd look at it, and if it's a good performance but we didn't care for the song, we'd say to pick another song. Nick John at our management [Sanctuary] went through every video and transferred it all to DVDs. So he saw just about everything." Read the rest of the interview here.

As previously reported, SLAYER will enter the studio in early 2004 to record the follow-up to 2001's "God Hates Us All", which has sold 229,638 copies in the U.S., according to Nielsen SoundScan. The upcoming effort will mark the group's first studio release since 1990's "Seasons In The Abyss" to feature original drummer Dave Lombardo, who rejoined the group two years ago. SLAYER are currently headlining the Jagermeister Fall Music Tour with HATEBREED and ARCH ENEMY."

[GameOver!]

"No. I loved METALLICA in the beginning, I used to go to Orange County and watch them when [Dave] Mustaine was in the band. I thought Mustaine's shit didn't stink — and so did Mustaine, that's his problem. I was just blown away! Me and Jeff [Hannemann] would go up to Woodstock and pay money just to go see METALLICA, because Mustaine would be up there ripping through everything! Everything on that album, even the leads that are on the album, are what Mustaine played — not even looking at what he was playing, just ripping. We were just blown away by that.Fuck yeah!

[SideburnZ]

The dude makes good points...and he is right about Metallica and their Icon show...


But wasn't he in a Sum 41 video? :wtf:

[Black Eagle]

I saw Living End on Wednesday night, and it was a fucking awesome set. Won tickets through Triple M as a Garage Session, and with 100 people in the audience it was prime. THey played a few songs off the new album, but mostly stuff off Roll On and self titled. They still fucking kick arse.

[Crabby]

It seems that Flesh Mechanic will most likely be the opening act for the SYL show in Sydney anyway.

[NiMMERS]

Flesh Mechanic are pretty decent. The only band that will spring to mind when you see them is Meshuggah. They pull it off pretty well even if the frontman plays 3/4 of the gig with his back to ya. The drummer is an absolute machine.

This is gonna be an awesome gig.

[Monkey]

More information has surfaced about "Archetype", FEAR FACTORY's contribution to the forthcoming "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" soundtrack, due on November 4 through Nitrus Records. The track, which was composed by the group's bassist-turned-guitarist Christian Olde Wolbers and drummer Raymond Herrera and features lyrics written by frontman Burton C. Bell, was self-produced at the band's own recording studio and was remixed by programmer/engineer Steve Tushar, who had toured with FEAR FACTORY back in 1996 and has done some remixes for KORN. A re-recorded version of the song is expected to appear on the band's forthcoming full-length album, tentatively due next summer through an as-yet-undetermined label (strongly rumored to be Los Angeles-based D3 Entertainment). "Archetype" marks FEAR FACTORY's first release without the contributions of founding member Dino Cazares, who was unceremoniously ousted from the band last year.

The track listing for the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" soundtrack is as follows:

01. PANTERA - "Immortally Insane"
02. HATEBREED - "Below The Bottom"
03. SOIL - "Pride"
04. STATIC-X - "Deliver Me"
05. MUSHROOMHEAD - "43"
06. SEETHER - "Pig"
07. NOTHINGFACE - "Down In Flames"
08. 40 BELOW SUMMER - "Self-Medicate"
09. MOTOGRATER - "Suffocate"
10. SHADOWS FALL - "Destroyer Of Senses"
11. MESHUGGAH - "Rational Gaze"
12. FEAR FACTORY - "Archetype" (Remix)
13. MORBID ANGEL - "Enshrined By Grace"
14. INDEX CASE - "Listen"
15. FINGER ELEVEN - "Stay In Shadow"
16. LAMB OF GOD - "Ruin"
17. SWORN ENEMY - "As Real As It Gets"
18. CORETEZ - "Five Months"

[Monkey]

LAMB OF GOD are expected to confirm rumors that they have signed a new deal with Epic Records during an appearance on MTV2's "Headbanger's Ball" this Saturday (October 18) at 10:00 p.m. EST. The band will also discuss the upcoming "Headbanger's Ball Tour", the group's forthcoming DVD release, their recent soundtrack appearances and all their videos to date.

As previously reported, LAMB OF GOD's upcoming DVD, due out by the end of the year, is set to be released with a list price of $9.99 and will consist of 4-5 live performance tracks taken from this year's Hellfest and New England Hardcore and Metal Festival, all three LAMB OF GOD videos, interviews with the group and individual members, promo videos and various self-recorded behind-the-scenes material.

LAMB OF GOD will kick off the "Headbangers Ball Tour" with KILLSWITCH ENGAGE, SHADOWS FALL, GOD FORBID, and UNEARTH on October 28 in Montreal. LAMB OF GOD's sophomore album, "As The Palaces Burn", has shifted 31,183 copies in the U.S., according to Nielsen SoundScan.

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Lamb Of God DVD!!!
*creams*

[NiMMERS]

The Lamb of God dvd will be the shit. I just wish they put a whole gig in there. That'd be fucking awesome.

Anyone heard of Mastodon? I bought their second effort, 'Remission' today. It's off the wall. You can't really categorise it. The drums are simply awesome and cover so much ground. Sort of like a super doomy Tool on steroids. Get into it.

[Monkey]

Fozzy???..... doing originals???......it can't be!

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FOZZY, the brainchild of former WWE champion Chris Jericho and ex-STUCK MOJO mastermind Rich Ward, have decided to do away with their "SPINAL TAP of '80s hairspray metal scene" gimmick and record an album consisting 100% of original material. The band's follow-up to last year's "Happenstance", which contained four original songs alongside a host of classic metal covers, is tentatively due next spring.

"You can consider this the beginning of the true FOZZY dynasty," the group's webmaster Eddie Dibergi writes on their web site. "Yes, the band will continue to put on the most entertaining and powerful show in rock but the gimmicks will be retired. Love 'em or hate 'em, the music and performances will stand on their own with nothing to get in the way. And we're sure that the legend built touring the world these past three years will continue to grow as new fans witness first-hand the machine that is FOZZY.

"As I type, Rich Ward is heavy into pre-production crafting some of the most brutal riffs ever to be recorded. Chris and I are working on getting all of the pieces in place for the recording and worldwide distribution of the new disc and other FOZZY materials. The band is tentatively scheduled to be in the studio right after the New Year. The new disc will be recorded in Atlanta and Tampa studios. Expect lots of info, pics and clips once things get rolling"

In addition to continuing work on the material for their next full-length effort, the band will participate in "a huge upcoming CD compilation release" with a new song that is "about to be recorded," according to Jericho. No further information is available at this time.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Well it was kinda expected since there's no more Stuck Mojo and Rich Ward's Sick Speed has seemed to go nowhere.

[GameOver!]

Has anyone purchased that new Morbid Angel cd? :shifty:

[Ms. Morningstar]

They had Original songs on Happenstance.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

They also had two original songs on their self titled release.

But it seems now they're doing no covers. And there were covers on happenstance.

[NiMMERS]

GO!, from what I heard of the new Morbid Angel...I wasnt that impressed. Production seemed a little muggy to me. I think they need David Vincent back. What happened to him?

A_O, you're a Stratovarious fan arent ya? Do you reckon the singer looks like David Spade?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

:lol:

Now that you mention it Timo Kotipelto does look a bit like David Spade but I hadn't picked up on it before.

and in other Strat news, Elements Part 2 comes out on the 27th!

[Crabby]

I reckon Fozzy's originals are great,and Rich Ward is a great songwriter/arranger,so IMO the album will rock. \m/

[Crabby]

The hot rumour ATM is that the re-formed Fear Factory will be touring in Februay and playing at the Sydney Superdome,although unfortunately it appears they will be playing with Korn and Static-X.Eh.I hope they do some seperate side shows anyway.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I'm a pretty hot rumour. :naughty:

[Crabby]

Did I mention that I'm seeing The Butterfly Effect again tomorrow night? I guess I just did anyway.

[NiMMERS]

Apparently Byron Stroud (SYL, ZH, FLA) will be playing bass with Fear Factory for a few dates. It's unknown if he will be filling in on the tour with Korn and Static-X.

Interesting little tidbit there, if it comes to fruition I wonder how it'll affect his touring commitments with SYL...

[Monkey]

Here's two bits of news from the LoG site....
I know I aready posted about the DVD, but this is from the official site and thus means more....

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"Terror and Hubris," the upcoming DVD release from LAMB OF GOD will be available in the Merchandise section of this site before the end of the year. The DVD will be available in stores in early 2004.
Terror and Hubris is set to include 13 chapters, 11 extras and will carry a list price of $9.99.

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LAMB OF GOD has confirmed siging a recording contract with Epic Records (Sony Music) and will be releasing their next album through the label.
The signing was officially announced by the band on their appearance of MTV2's "Headbanger's Ball" on Saturday (10/18/03) night.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

This Kid from Amazon can't be serious:


Yo everyone, what is goin' down tonite?? I love all kinds of muzik, but the style I'm most passionate about has to be metal baby!! However, this Arch Enemy band isn't metal at all....not by a LONG shot!! They try and look all tuff and evil in their slick promo photos, but the music on the disc don't back up the image!! They look so dorky, with their out dated mullets, tight clothing with no brand names I recognize, cheesy poses and all around ugliness!! Also the singer looks like a girl, what exactly is going through this dudes head anyway?? And as for the music, oh man is it bad!! Simple minded vocals that sound like someone is gargling, stupid one chord riffs strummed way to fast, annoying solos, and a drummer who don't keep time good at all!! Please people, for good metal stick with the proven leaders like Limp Bizkit, KoRn, Linkin Park, Disturbed, Staind, Good Charlotte, Sum 41, Blink 182, E Town Concrete and that silly cowboy Toby Keith!! Also hot is the debut from Clay Aiken and the multi-talented Justin Timberlake!! Have fun these artists and ignore these Arched Enema poseurs!! Peace out peeps...

And every review is an anti-metal one giving one star. Bands like Handed and the like. Good for a laugh I guess, but anyone who's like this seriously is a moron.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/cm/member-reviews/-/A1JUTOOMB93968/cm_aya_av.rev_nxt-11/103-7698403-4416631?start-at=11&

[Aussie_Outlaw]

And strangely, St Anger gets 4 stars.

And Megadeth's RIP gets 2 but only because of Dawn Patrol ( :rofl: ) Oh I gotta read all the metal ones. It's gotta be a pisstake.

David Hasselhoff gets 5 stars. And he contradicts himself every 3 articles.

Oh and I found this album.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000069KEE/cm_aya_asin.title/103-7698403-4416631?v=glance&s=music

:rofl:

Oh how sad it is.

[Ringo]

Course that guy isn't serious, At least I hope not....

[Crabby]

I was chatting with Ben from TBE last night,and it seems that Cog will be playing the Sydney BDO as well,which is pretty good news,and that they'll be doing some shows together around NSW late in the year.Cool stuff.

[NiMMERS]

OPETH Set Release Date For DVD

OPETH have set "Lamentations - Live At Shepherds Bush Empire" as the title for their forthcoming live DVD, due on November 24 through Music For Nations.

As previously reported, the disc, which was recorded September 25 in London, will contain both the mellow and heavy set with a running time of approximately an hour each, as well as a unique 65-minute documentary about the band with in-depth focus on the recording of "Deliverance" and "Damnation". "Lamentations…", which was mixed by "Deliverance" mixer and co-producer Andy Sneap, will also include exclusive interviews with the band and producer. A two-CD live album will also be issued in the coming months.

OPETH are currently in the middle of a Scandinavian tour which is slated to conclude on November 1 in Sundsvall, Sweden. South American dates will commence in mid-November, to be followed by an Australian trek in early December.


Oh yes. Tour, 2DVD and live 2CD. Awesome.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I know you've been waiting for it.

Dream Theater - As I Am (http://home.comcast.net/~dtawake/dreamtheaterasiam.mp3)

From: http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/tm.asp?m=319847

And it's Heavy :headbang: 4:25min. (off the radio: the radio edit is 4:16)

Very thrashy.

They could hit mainstream with this single: Out November 11th.

Now that I've listened to it:
Strangely for DT, the bass is fairly loud/high in the mix, more than the drums and guitar. Makes you think of Met/'Deth for some reason, has the groovy Metallica thing going on. And it's a radio edit so the song should be longer on the album IMO.

Well?

[QuietStorm]

Yes, I have been waiting unpatiently for something from the album. I have been checking every day to see if the album might have gotten bootlegged(not that I would download it or anything:)). Nah, I am going to probably order off of Amazon in a couple weeks.

I really like this track. It has a mainstream feel yet it still hits heavy. I love how heavy it is for DT standards. I wasn't sure about LaBrie's vocals at the beginning but they got better and better as the song went on. The last couple minutes just kick ass. This has gotten me so hyped for the album. So far, so good. Nice little guitar solo in there as well. As Dave said, I hope this hits the mainstream as they have gone relatively unnoticed for far too long.

Time to hook my friends up with this song.

[NiMMERS]

Just got the new Frankenbok, not as quirky as their previous efforts and the production is more clean. They're way more tighter.

And I'm only into the 2nd song...

[Crabby]

I managed to catch the "Essential Albums" special on TNOTB today,pretty cool stuff.Some really cool live and early footage in that show.

[NiMMERS]

Damn I splurged out today....

Myrkskog - Superior Massacre
Cephalic Carnage - Lucid Interval
Carpathian Forest - Defending The Throne of Evil
Isengard - Vinterskugge

There isn't anything awesome coming out or available that I'm really keen for so I thought I'd nab up some underground extreme shit that's on the rise.

Anyone heard of these bands?

[Crabby]

I rang The Metro this afternoon- the opening act for SYL still hasn't been confirmed.So there you go anyway.

[Crabby]

I also picked up the new Fantomas today- it's pretty experimental and very,very interesting.I can't fucking wait to see this band live either.

[Nemesis]

Anyone heard of these bands?

I've heard of Carpathian Forest before, but never any of their music.

I've heard a few Cephalic Carnage songs, but the only one I can really remember is Rehab. Great song.





I'm not sure what I want to get next. It's gotta be something from Nokturnal Mortem, Graveland, Maniac Butcher, Decapitated, Vital Remains or Dismember. But I still haven't even bought any Burzum yet.

Too many CDs I want and too little cash flow.






EDIT: RRRrrrrrrrrrggggghhh! Motherfucker. White Trash Devil just shut down for good. :mad:



:cry:

[Crabby]

Check out this site-

http://www.mybigblackcock.com/archives/2003_10.html#000110#more

Scroll down the page a little- pretty cool interview with Devy,with some interesting insights and information on his projects and how they come together as well.

Also,here's a recent setlist I found on the Strapping Young Lad forum, although the Sydney show will undoubtedly be longer,as this is from one of the SYL/DTB/ZH shows,where the sets are fairly equal for all three bands anyway.

Blame canada
Consequence
Relentless
Rape Song
In the rainy season
Home Nucleonics
Aftermath
Oh my fucking god
Force fed
devour
Detox


I'd say add tracks like "All Hail The New Flesh","S.Y.L.","Goat" and some others and you'd get some idea of what we're going to hear live on Friday night.Cool stuff.

[NiMMERS]

I've heard of Carpathian Forest before, but never any of their music.

I've heard a few Cephalic Carnage songs, but the only one I can really remember is Rehab. Great song.

EDIT: RRRrrrrrrrrrggggghhh! Motherfucker. White Trash Devil just shut down for good. :mad:



:cry:

Carpathian Forest are pretty good. They mix a bit of old with the new....although there's some lounge music with saxaphone (!).

Cephalic Carnage are a real trip, man. Just sit in front of it with the volume on 11 and be blown away.

I only got Myrkskog cos I knew it's resemble one of my fav bands at the moment, Zyklon. It's more raw and evil and less dynamic. Really solid stuff.

I think the highlight of my slurge yesterday was Fenriz's Isengard project. It sounds so epic and majestic. There is deep texture and so many different aspects and influences to the sound. Folk music, black metal.....it's all there. Anyone who can appreciate black metal on more than a casual basis will love this.



Blame canada
Consequence
Relentless
Rape Song
In the rainy season
Home Nucleonics
Aftermath
Oh my fucking god
Force fed
devour
Detox


I'd say add tracks like "All Hail The New Flesh","S.Y.L.","Goat" and some others and you'd get some idea of what we're going to hear live on Friday night.Cool stuff.

I say also chuck in 'Underneath the Waves', 'Cod Metal King' and 'AAA'...........shit I almost forgot the mighty 'Far Beyond Metal'

[Crabby]

How could I forget FBM!!!!!!

[NiMMERS]

*hits Crabby*

[Nemesis]

I think the highlight of my slurge yesterday was Fenriz's Isengard project. It sounds so epic and majestic. There is deep texture and so many different aspects and influences to the sound. Folk music, black metal.....it's all there. Anyone who can appreciate black metal on more than a casual basis will love this.



Sounds similar the Nokturnal Mortem CD I'm thinking of getting. There's supposedly some Russian folk elements in that.

:chin: I'm just wondering if I should hear some Darkthrone before Isengard, though. Shit, probably doesn't really matter.

[NiMMERS]

Isengard is different with the folk elements. But as you said, get both cos it's all top quality shit.

[Crabby]

*hits Crabby*

*Ducks for cover*.

Nah,Friday night is going to rule all.Still no word on the opening act,either.

[Psycroth]

Anyone ever hear of a band called Amon Amarth? Their song ´Death in Fire´ truly kicks ass.

[NiMMERS]

I've heard of Amon Amarth. A thrashy black/death type of metal, yeah? I've been thinking of checking them out.

[Nemesis]

Anyone ever hear of a band called Amon Amarth? Their song ´Death in Fire´ truly kicks ass.

I have The Crusher. It's decent.

"Sound of Eight Hooves" is a badass song.

[Alex E]

I'm going to see Borgir, Children of Bodom, Nevermore, and Hypocrisy in St. Paul in December!!!!! Not to brag or anything.

[NiMMERS]

You bastard.

Strapping Young Lad tomorrow night though!

[Nemesis]

I'm going to see Borgir, Children of Bodom, Nevermore, and Hypocrisy in St. Paul in December!!!!! Not to brag or anything.

Same here, December 5th. When are they in Minnesota?


I just hope Dimmu Borgir doesn't play all new stuff. I'm not crazy about the new album.

[Alex E]

Thing is, I've hardly even listened to Borgir, and haven't even heard Hypocrisy. I'm only seeing it because it's a few days after the Symphony X/Devin Townsend Band concert, so we've decided to fork out another wad of cash and stick around.

[Nemesis]

Dimmu Borgir has some great songs, but I haven't heard anything from Hypocrisy that made me want to buy a CD.

A few people I know are going just to see Children of Bodom.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Finally got around to getting Clayman and Jester Race.

Oh and Arch Enemy's Anthem's of Rebellion (Already have the clip for We Will Rise; I believe I posted the link before)

:yes:

[QuietStorm]

I love Arch Enemy. Woo Dave.

[QuietStorm]

The new Dream Theater leaked and within twenty minutes I will be listening to the whole album! Yay.

[Ego]

The new Dream Theater leaked and within twenty minutes I will be listening to the whole album! Yay.

Dream Theater sucks.

Their new album is supposedly a "classic metal album" and a total old Metallica rip-off. All of their albums are gimmicks and all of their songs are about themselves. There is no emotion in their music.

[them69]

Dream Theater sucks.

Their new album is supposedly a "classic metal album" and a total old Metallica rip-off. All of their albums are gimmicks and all of their songs are about themselves. There is no emotion in their music.

Hell yes.

[NiMMERS]

Strapping Young Lad rocks my hairy anus.

Awesome gig last night....only disappointment was the omission of songs like Underneath The Waves, SYL and Far Beyond Metal.

[Crabby]

I was surprised at how much they played from the new album,but they played loads of the awesome stuff from City as well.

And you've gotta love these knobs on MS STILL calling Daysend- Gaysend. Funny bastards.*The sarcasm*.

And what's with you turning on Dream Theater,Brent? You used to adore em'.

[GameOver!]

Now I don't know what you guys consider "metal" to be, but a lot of the shit you've been talking about recently has made me sick.

That is all.

[Crabby]

Are you referring to SYL,GameOver!?

[QuietStorm]

That DT bootleg was a fake. Total waste of my time. :(

[Crabby]

And here's the confirmation from the Opeth site about them re-scheduling their Aussie "Damnation" tour-

"Australia - re schedule

Opeth have had to re schedule their previously announced Australian tour scheduled for December because the price of flights to Australia were ridiculously expensive due to the time of year making the tour uneconomical.

The dates will be re scheduled for the last week of March 2004.Dates will be posted shortly.We will also be attempting to include Perth if possible this time."