Metal Discussion Thread

[NiMMERS]

Yeah they do but they have a nice little extreme metal section in it.

[Monkey]

Christ, NBC is what got me into Soilwork in the first place!

And I only really listened to it cause Devy produced it and I knew that he couldn't put his name to any project or band without himself thinking it was worthy of it and that he could actually do something to it.

After listening to the older albums though, you can tell that the same elements are there, but he just managed to bring them to light a little more, figure number five just carried that on, even thought they had a different producer.

In other bullshit, did any of you Oz guys hear the "screaming contest" on JJJ last night?

The whole time I was listening to it, and the other DJ's recommendations, I couldn't help but think that the scream Devy does at the end of "The Death Of Music" on Ocean Machine would blow all the shit they played away!

What do you guys reckon?
Best scream you've heard in a music track?

Doesn't just have to be blood curdling scream either, caqn actual have some lyrical content, or someone revving up a crowd etc....

[NiMMERS]

That scream is quite insane.

Has anyone heard of Red Harvest. Sounds like they're doing to black metal what Fear Factory did for death metal in the 90's.

[Grimario]

Some of the Meshuggah screams NiMMERS had on some vids once a while back were quite awesome.

[NiMMERS]

Absolutely. Those screams are ridiculously good!

If anyone has heard 'Cocaine' by Frankenbok live on the G&S Special Edition he lets loose this wailing scream. I swear he must have shit himself. Or passed a stone through his urethra.

[blackening]

:scared:
BurnZ is right, Spineshark sucks, truely.what the fuck ae you talking about? spineshank rules. every song on The Height of Callousness rules. good metal depression music. cant wait for their new album Self Destructive Pattern. i heard a song and its heavy and along the lines of their last album :yes:

i know you guys might not think of Static - X as a metal band but a heard Destroy All from Shawdow Zone which is gonna be out in like October and the song was heavy as hell. didnt have much words at all just metal through and through :yes:

[NiMMERS]

I'd say the regulars in this great thread would agree with Burnzy. We're all more into underground and cult scenes.

Spineshank do not fall into any of these categories. They were never really a strong band with much longetivity. Frankly, they're treading water.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Seems we now have a metal = mediocre 90's thrash fan in our midst.

And yes Spineshank and Static X :nono:

[NiMMERS]

I wouldnt even call it mediocre 90's thrash as to not taint the 'thrash' genre in general.

[Crabby]

It's more industrial/90's thrash if anything.

[NiMMERS]

It aint thrash!

[blackening]

Seems we now have a metal = mediocre 90's thrash fan in our midst.

And yes Spineshank and Static X :nono:i didnt really say they were metal. i was just defending SpineShank and saying the new Static - X song was really heavy. ok? is that all right with you guys?

[NiMMERS]

i didnt really say they were metal. i was just defending SpineShank and saying the new Static - X song was really heavy. ok? is that all right with you guys?

Right. Keep on reading.


...The Height of Callousness rules. good metal depression music...a heard Destroy All from Shawdow Zone ...didnt have much words at all just metal through and through :yes:

You've been sprung.

[blackening]

oh my "god"... :flamed: :rolleyes:

[Morrison]

oh my "god"... :flamed: :rolleyes:
That's all you got to say?

[blackening]

That's all you got to say?i got nothin' :cry:

[Morrison]

You got that right.

[NiMMERS]

Mate, that's GOLD!

[blackening]

yeah... mate :rolleyes:

[Morrison]

Mate, that's GOLD!
What's gold?

[Morrison]

yeah... mate :rolleyes:
Are you a natural born idiot?

[NiMMERS]

What's gold?
His champagne retorts.


Are you a natural born idiot?

He named himself after Kane. So that's a rhetorical question.

[blackening]

kane-a-nite is not after kane. its what he calls his fans. i am not even a really big fan of kane, i just thought of something to use for my name and this is it.

and i dont think anybody is a natural born idiot, i think they have to grow into it ala me.

[Morrison]

kane-a-nite is not after kane. its what he calls his fans. i am not even a really big fan of kane, i just thought of something to use for my name and this is it.

and i dont think anybody is a natural born idiot, i think they have to grow into it ala me.
It's named after Kane.

[Black Eagle]

That's what is wrong with this forum. You have a different view to the majority of the posters, and suddenly you 'suck' and your tastes are flawed. What ever happened to being an individual? Just because people listen to a totally different brand of music, and appreciate other bands to you, doesn't mean they don't know anything about music, or that their tastes are horrible.

Fucking shits me.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Why is this in the Metal thread Rhys?

[Black Eagle]

Because it happens here as well. I mentioned Spineshank. I don't mind them, and you guys jump down my throat. Some other dude says that he likes 'em and again, another attack.

The same shit happens all the time. There are a few posters who are the main culprits. The world is diverse, just like music tastes.

[Crabby]

I criticised them once,and justified my claims,I don't care if people like Spineshank.

[Crabby]

From the Rajah main page news-

"Chris Jericho met with legendary music manger Bruce Allen and Metallic producer Bob Rock prior to RAW in Vancouver a couple of weeks ago to talk about a Fozzy record with a possible wider release."

And this 'cause I thought it was interesting-

"IRON MAIDEN guitarist Adrian Smith told San Antonio Express-News that the band would only be performing one new song during their set at Verizon Wireless Amphitheater in Selma, Texas on Friday (August 15). The group's new CD, "Dance Of Death", hits the streets September 9 through Columbia Records.

"That's the problem. The album won't be released until next month, so we're playing all our old stuff," Smith said during a tour break. "The new song, 'Wildest Dreams', fits in really great with all the other stuff."

He added that "Wildest Dreams" (Windows Media) is "in the tradition of 'Run to the Hills' and 'Number of the Beast'. It is a short and sharp kind of song. It is about, ah, someone who is breaking out, looking for some freedom. It is a very simple song."

"Dance of Death" features 11 songs, recorded last November and December.

"The album is a progression from where we left off with 'Brave New World'," he said. "The last three, four years, the three-guitar lineup has really worked for us. I think we came up with a more cohesive album than before, and overall the material is stronger than 'Brave New World'.

"We recorded it in London, which we haven't done since 'Number of the Beast'."

And why not?

"Well, we did three albums in the Bahamas. Various reasons really. The vibe, the taxes, you know. But we wanted to do this album, and it was nice to go home."

When asked how much longer he will keep up with IRON MAIDEN, Smith said, "I been doing this for more than 20 years and I think I still have a few more miles in me. But I don't think I can keep on another 10 years." Read more."

And it's kinda old news,but are any Aussies planning to go to Metal For The Brain this year?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

It's probably since Spineshank aren't overly creative and original.

That'd be the reason people abuse them.

Can't think of any other reasons.

MFTB is back on? Really? I guess I'll have to check the date and the lineup and make a decision. See if I can drag my brother along also.

As for Fozzy, a wider appeal? You mean a more updated appeal. It'll never work. Fozzy's greatness is their work with the old school. Talking with Rock is futile since they already have one of the greatest producers working for them in Andy Sneap.

[Black Eagle]

It's probably since Spineshank aren't overly creative and original.

That'd be the reason people abuse them.



I'm not focussing on that issue. All i'm saying, is just because someone likes a band, people immediately think their tastes are fucked and their opinions mean jack shit. It happens all to regulary around here.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Doesn't usually happen in this thread. Sure CAM always does it, and Burnz will do it to wind people up and you'll get the rap vs rock fans until the end of eternity but thats about it.

This thread is fairly clean in comparison. Infact that was the first series of "spam" in this thread since it's inception.

Doesn't happen regulary in this thread.

Crabby were you the kid who thought Happenstance was better than their self titled release? Because you're sooo wrong man. Their debut is better.

[NiMMERS]

It's named after Kane.

What he said.


That's what is wrong with this forum. You have a different view to the majority of the posters, and suddenly you 'suck' and your tastes are flawed. What ever happened to being an individual? Just because people listen to a totally different brand of music, and appreciate other bands to you, doesn't mean they don't know anything about music, or that their tastes are horrible.

Fucking shits me.

We're not in some clique. In fact I think this thread has a good community vibe about it where we talk about what we're listening to and share opinions and make reccomendations to each other. That's what's good about this thread.

At least in here if someone doesnt like a band we contructively state why we don't like it. I think the general MDT thread is above the 'you suck and my shit is better than yours' stuff which happens elsewhere in this forum.

I just got the Slayer dvd, 'War at the Warfield'. Fuck it's intense. The 'Fans Rule' doco is pretty funny. The people in it are what give metalheads bad names. Lacking the ability to convey opinion and thought through the English language so they compensate with spluttering some juvenile shit with the word 'fuck' thrown about way too much to the point where they sound unintelligible. The usual 'Christianity sucks! This society sucks! I hate the world!'. Without this society they wouldnt have the freedom to go out and spend their dole money on tickets to Slayer gigs.

Also picked up 'Sick Transit Gloria Mundi' by Red Harvest. Fuck they're good. I've heard the description of 'Emperor, Godflesh, Ministry, Fear Factory all rolled into one', accurate! It's awesome.

I almost ended up with the wrong CD as the dude plucked out a completely different CD to put in the case. Idiot.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I fucking hate the whole Christianity sucks thing from anyone. It's totally un-necessary.

As with the Slayer DVD I hear the bad thing is that the concert is cut with the fan's comments between it which sounds damn annoying.

I should prolly get the maiden DVD.

Plus NiMMERS we're better than most people ;). We're metal people.

[NiMMERS]

Yeah the christianity thing sucks. Even though I'm not religious I aint gonna hang shit on someone who is religious. A few of my closer mates are deeply religious. Yet we all bang our heads to metal in harmony.

The fan comments is pretty sparse in the Slayer dvd.

Yeah, we're metal. And that's what makes us better! :D

Hey I read ages ago that Satan has turned his back on metal according to some Satanic group and that rap is the way to go.

[Crabby]

I fucking hate the whole Christianity sucks thing from anyone. It's totally un-necessary.

As with the Slayer DVD I hear the bad thing is that the concert is cut with the fan's comments between it which sounds damn annoying.

I should prolly get the maiden DVD.

Plus NiMMERS we're better than most people ;). We're metal people.

VOTB is a pretty good DVD,the D'Ianno-era videos in particular are great if only for nostalgia value.

I prefer "Happenstance" to Fozzy's self-titled,but maybe that's 'cause I've had it for ages longer.

I think it's hilarious yet kinda scary when you consider the neo-Nazi's who like Slayer 'cause they think they're a "Nazi band".

[NiMMERS]

I think it's hilarious yet kinda scary when you consider the neo-Nazi's who like Slayer 'cause they think they're a "Nazi band".

Let's face it. Their are alot of idiotic metal fans. More to the point, there are alot of idiotic people.

[Crabby]

MFTB is on December 20 if I remember correctly.Only a few bands have been confirmed so far,including Destroyer 666 and Alchemist.

BTW,have you heard the new Alchemist album,Nimmers?

[NiMMERS]

Nah I can't say I have. Might have to download a track or two. The only Alchemist song I can remember hearing is that 'War of the Worlds' thing they did and JJJ use to pimp it ALL the time on 3HOP.

[blackening]

Because it happens here as well. I mentioned Spineshank. I don't mind them, and you guys jump down my throat. Some other dude says that he likes 'em and again, another attack.

The same shit happens all the time. There are a few posters who are the main culprits. The world is diverse, just like music tastes.yeah, i was that other dude!

[Crabby]

Nah I can't say I have. Might have to download a track or two. The only Alchemist song I can remember hearing is that 'War of the Worlds' thing they did and JJJ use to pimp it ALL the time on 3HOP.

It's a pretty good album,really diverse-sounding IMO.I'm not much of a black metal fan,but I gave the new Astriaal a listen the other day and it sounds quite good.

[SideburnZ]

That's what is wrong with this forum. You have a different view to the majority of the posters, and suddenly you 'suck' and your tastes are flawed. What ever happened to being an individual? Just because people listen to a totally different brand of music, and appreciate other bands to you, doesn't mean they don't know anything about music, or that their tastes are horrible.

Fucking shits me.

Stop complaining, all I said was they fucking suck.

And I always thought your tastes were flawed, even before the Spineshank thing. :heart:

[Crabby]

BurnZ,check out Alchemist.Killer Aussie metal.

[SideburnZ]

Okee dokee.

[Crabby]

Hey I read ages ago that Satan has turned his back on metal according to some Satanic group and that rap is the way to go.

Will we survive?

[Nemesis]

Has anyone heard of Red Harvest. Sounds like they're doing to black metal what Fear Factory did for death metal in the 90's.

Yeah. I've heard AEP, but not much more. Not bad.

[NiMMERS]

I'd never heard of them until I read a little tidbit in a magazine. I think they've been recording since '95.

Get 'Sick Transit Gloria Mundi', it's awesome.

[Crabby]

You heard much of Astriaal,Nimmers?

[Nemesis]

Get 'Sick Transit Gloria Mundi', it's awesome.

Is AEP a good gauge to how most of the album sounds?





...heh, I first heard that song on the metal channel on my digital cable box. I guess they play stuff other than crap once in a while. :yes:


I have to get some Kataklysm soon, too.

[Crabby]

I posted these 'cause I thought they were interesting-

"METALLICA's "performance coach" Phil Towle, a 64-year-old former psychotherapist who was brought into the picture in January 2001 to help James Hetfield, Kirk Hammett and Lars Ulrich repair their relationship with Jason Newsted, recently spoke to Classic Rock magazine about his work with the group to help them connect to each other, to their loved ones, and to themselves.

When asked why he urged Lars Ulrich to have a sit-down with former METALLICA guitarist Dave Mustaine in 2001, Towle said, "We went through a time in our lives where we realized there were certain things unfinished. For example, the Jason thing still remains, in my mind, unfinished. It doesn't necessitate a sit-down with Jason. I certainly recommend it, and I've attempted to do that, but it hasn't met with everybody's approval and the timing has been a little bit off.

"There was healing that needed to be done with [late METALLICA bassist] Cliff Burton in using psycho drama role-playing. We didn't do it, but it was done in James' rehab process. The band never said goodbye or grieved appropriately over the loss of Cliff. They just ploughed on like they've always done, sweeping things under the rug. Not out of spite or out of willful negligence, but just because they had a job to do. So much of they've learned is that past undone and unfinished contaminates the present.

"There was healing done as regards to Cliff. There's a desire to heal some things with Jason. And that brought up the whole thing with Mustaine. It seemed like a good thing to do for Lars, and it would've been also for James, but he wasn't around at that particular time [since he was in rehab].

"So I encouraged that, because it frees up people to go forward and it teaches a responsibility for bringing things to closure. In my former life as a psychotherapist, so many times when people had trouble letting go of relationships that were over, the 'divorces' weren't really finalized or finished in a productive way. It just doesn't work well that way in life, it's important to complete. I was present for the meeting of Dave and Lars, and I thought it was very useful and very productive. It helped both of them."

In response to a question about whether they were screaming at each other during the meeting, Phil said, "No. Dave is a very sensitive guy, and Lars is too. They were both grateful for the opportunity to talk with each other. It didn't mean it was totally resolved, and there were other issues that still remain, I think, that could've been talked about some more. But at least they've got some of those things out on the table and walked away from that meeting caring more of their long-standing love and respect for each other than resentments has perhaps poisoned their perspective of each other."

"JUDAS PRIEST frontman Rob Halford, who recently rejoined the group after more than 12 years apart, revealed during an online chat Saturday (August 16) that the songwriting process for PRIEST's next studio album has already begun. "We are writing now, slowly bit by bit putting the pieces together," he said. "All I can see is the bar is higher and we will sail over it! It's all ready to go — my work room is awash in paper! All I can say is that all the things you have come to expect from PRIEST will be in the new songs... It's been cool getting the same feelings for songs like I did before. I thought that might be over — it's not."

When asked if he would be willing to sing, on PRIEST's upcoming tour, any of the songs written and recorded during the years when the band were fronted by Halford's replacement, Tim "Ripper" Owens, Rob said, "I will sing any song by PRIEST [including those from the Ripper era], period."

In a separate chat with Halford manager John Baxter, also conducted on Saturday, Baxter once again discussed the reasons for the relatively poor commercial performance of HALFORD's last studio offering, "Crucible", and the lack of touring in support of it.

"Sanctuary [Records, HALFORD's label] were not there for the band," John said. "They were more focused on breaking the band up and trying to reunite JUDAS PRIEST. [HALFORD's 2000 album] 'Resurrection' and the tour went very well. I worked to make sure of it. When I took over last fall, the label decided it would dump the band at the curb. That was the difference. They frustrated every move they could. That's why I stepped in when Rob threatened to retire in the summer of 2002. 'Crucible' had everything we needed promotion-wise, but again, folks were more into breaking the band up in the summer of 2002.

" 'Crucible' is a masterpiece," Baxter continued. "All the HALFORD records are masterpieces. The band members, Pat [Lachman] and Ray [Riendeau] included, will always be proud of the work we did that last four years... 'Crucible' tested very high at radio, etc. We knew we had a great release. The label [Metal-Is, a division of Sanctuary] didn't know what they had. They'd only been in business for two to three years. Fact is, the band needed money and love from a label for it to really have a chance."

With regards to Rob's reunion with JUDAS PRIEST, Baxter said, "It's all Rob wanted. It was tough to park the HALFORD band, but in this biz you always do what your artist seriously wants. Rob wanted to be back in JUDAS PRIEST. We could have produced another great HALFORD recording this or next year, but Rob wanted to return to PRIEST — JUDAS PRIEST was more important to Rob. [Repairing the relationships in the band was] what took them the most time to sort through. It's between four brothers and no one else. He loves his solo band, but at this point in his life he wanted to be a part of JUDAS PRIEST. I don't live in his body or mind, but that is what he desperately wanted."

During the same chat, Baxter revealed plans for HALFORD to release two DVDs in 2004, with both the "Resurrection" and "Crucible" eras of the groups extensively represented.

"The first DVD will encompass the making of 'Resurrection', 'Live Insurrection' and the 2000/2001 tour, with 'Rock in Rio III' being the main performance footage," he said. "The second video will encompass the making of 'Crucible', interviews, live performances from Europe, Japan and the Anaheim June 2003 performance."

With regards to the possibility of releasing a DVD containing videos from Halford's FIGHT and TWO years, Baxter said, "Rob and I have been talking that through. There is no reason to mix the HALFORD and FIGHT material/footage. We'll create a separate package for the FIGHT years. I feel the FIGHT material warrants some attention. There isn't much TWO material. That was a very experimental move by Rob."

[NiMMERS]

Is AEP a good gauge to how most of the album sounds?





...heh, I first heard that song on the metal channel on my digital cable box. I guess they play stuff other than crap once in a while. :yes:


I have to get some Kataklysm soon, too.

The album is really diverse. Bits of industrial, thrash and black metal thrown in different measures. It's great. Download some tracks if you aint sure.

Crabby, I've heard of Astriaal but never heard them. I'll grab a track or 2.

[Nemesis]

Holy crap, I just pissed myself. New Zyklon song right here. (http://www.digitalmetal.com/zyklon/Zylkon_Aeon.mp3)

New album at the beginning of next month. Yay!

Oh, also, go here (http://www.cruciblekkschronicles.com/start.php) and check out the audio section. It's got radio arguments between evangelist Bob Larson and Glen Benton (lead singer of Deicide). Both of them are morons, but some of that shit's hilarious. :lol:

[NiMMERS]

Holy shit. That new Zyklon track is good. Might have to get 'World ov Worms' as a taster for next month.

[Crabby]

Crabby, I've heard of Astriaal but never heard them. I'll grab a track or 2.

I'm not a huge black metal fan but I dig a lot of their stuff.

Is the Superjoint Ritual DVD worth picking up?

[dcpunk]

Kovenant fucking owns all. Best metal ever...

[Nemesis]

Holy shit. That new Zyklon track is good. Might have to get 'World ov Worms' as a taster for next month.

Do it. I think it's a pretty solid album. Hammer Revelation is an incredible song.


Kovenant fucking owns all. Best metal ever...

You haven't heard their SETI album yet, have you? :nono:

:p

[SideburnZ]

Kovenant fucking owns all. Best metal ever...

:lol:

[NiMMERS]

Is the Superjoint Ritual DVD worth picking up?

Yeah it's good. It's got a full gig. Plus some candid interviews every few songs. Plus there is 2 piss funny music videos on it.

[Monkey]

even though I've always loved metal, and its sound in general, I've never really heard much "real" metal, and for that reason I've never owned many CDs of said metal bands.

So, in an attempt to fully broaden my truly eclectic musical tastes, Nimmers has been plying me with newer metal CDs, and back catalogs from some truly great metal bands, God bless his soul :)

So I thought I'd put up what I think of some of the stuff he's been "easing me into" as he put it the other day when I went over to pick up a new batch of sounds :)

On the menu this week are:
Tomahawk - Tomahawk
Tomahawk - Mit Gas
Poison The Well - You Come Before You
Opeth - Deliverence
In Flames - Colony
Children Of Bodom - Something Wild

So far I've sat down and seriously listened to Poison The Well, Opeth, In Flames and Children Of Bodom.

I must say, I love them all. Some great sounding metal, all of which fits the majority of my prerequisites in each case.
Yes Nimmers, even In Flames. I'm much more at peace with a studio recording than that poor excuse for a live album :p

[Aussie_Outlaw]

ICED EARTH Set Release Date For 'The Glorious Burden' - Aug. 21, 2003
ICED EARTH have set an October 27 European release date through SPV Records for their new CD, "The Glorious Burden". The follow-up to 2001's "The Horror Show" will mark the recording debut with the group of new vocalist Tim Owens, formerly of JUDAS PRIEST. A world tour in support of the album is expected to begin in early 2004.

Also Ripper has joined IE, it's official.

Also apparently the new Nevermore it's not a production problem, it's an EQ problem. So One of the kids on the Nevermore boards, found one way to solve the EQ problem plaguing EoR.


You need a program called Cool Edit Pro 2.0. That can be downloaded. I have cakewalk so i used the cool edit pro and the cakwalk/sonar eq to stabalize the sound, therefore taking the "blanket" off the sound as mentioned alot of times on my old thread. I used sonar to do other things to the sound, but I found that using Cool Edit Pro can work almost as good. If you dont have cakewalk/sonar all you do is this. Rip your "purchased" copy of EoR to your computer into mp3's (use cdex for this) once you have that done you then open up Cool Edit Pro. Then you click on "open file" and search for the mp3's you just ripped. Select the mp3 (one at a time) and open it. If you got this far the rest is easy. Then it will import it. Next click on "effects" then "filters" then "graphic equalizer". You can mess around with that yourself or you can simply choose the "30 Band Punch and Sparkle" preset and preview it if you want, and click on ok when you are done. It will then re-equalize the mp3. Click save. Thats it. Lots of users have heard what ive done to the sound. It will go from the sound you are complaining about to the quality similiar to DHIADW or PoE. No joke.

As for Iron Maiden, well for some totally fucked up reason which no-one can understand, they're getting airplay on Triple M down here. Triple M is a pop-rock mainstream station which generally plays the likes of Linkin Park, Staind (heaviest they usually go) and all those rock acts like Creed, Nickleback and those cretins.

But strangely Wildest Dreams was play at about 1o:30 on Tuesday night. Plus there are sources saying Maiden will tour Oz next year. Plus it was said on Triple J on Tuesday.

Sounds good for things in Australia.

Oh and Strat's Stratofortress... WOW

[Nemesis]

New Iced Earth? I just pissed in my pants.

Has anyone heard of a power metal band called Jag Panzer? I want to know if they're any good. I heard a pretty good song by them, but I also heard a pretty bad one, too. :\

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Yeah new IE
http://www.icedearth.com/html/sounds.htm

I've heard of Jag Panzer but nothing comes to memory about their sound.

[Nemesis]

They reminded me instantly of Fozzy, if that helps.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Yeah I already knew they were a power metal band. One of the guys on Screaming Symphony constantly refers to them.

But I can't think of any of their songs.

[Nemesis]

"Take to the Sky" is the good one I've heard, and "King at a Price" was the shitty one.

[Nemesis]

Awesome, I think I'm gonna see Dimmu Borgir, Children of Bodom, Nevermore and Hypocrisy when they go to Lawrence, KS on December 5th. I think I just got a boner!

Now I have to find a way to get out of work...:chin:

[Crabby]

Iron Maiden on Triple-M? Hmmmm,interesting.I missed FMR the other night,but that's interesting news.The new Maiden video is on Rage tonight at around 2am.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

2:00am
Eat You Alive - LIMP BIZKIT Universal
Wildest Dreams - IRON MAIDEN EMI
Go To Sleep - RADIOHEAD EMI
Baby Blue - THE WARLOCKS Independent

So Yep :yes: Should still be up.

[Crabby]

I'll skip the LB video,Dave.

[NiMMERS]

Nimmers has been plying me with newer metal CDs, and back catalogs from some truly great metal bands

Don't you worry. I'll have my boot on ya throat and forcing in the black metal soon.

[Crabby]

Yeah it's good. It's got a full gig. Plus some candid interviews every few songs. Plus there is 2 piss funny music videos on it.

If it's anything like the Pantera videos it'll be well worth checking out.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Just saw the new Maiden clip for Wildest Dreams.

Maiden driving around inside Eddie = cool.

The fan skeletons = damn good.

The clip is good, but not brilliant. Quite different. Take a few watches to get used to it.

[NiMMERS]

If it's anything like the Pantera videos it'll be well worth checking out.

It's nothing like the Pantera dvd :)

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Found myself videos of:

Iron Maiden - Live After Death
Megadeth - Rusted Pieces.

$25 together. Nice find if I do say so myself.

[NiMMERS]

Nice work, Dave. Are they dvd or vhs? Cos vhs sound would be like a slap in the face after watching a music dvd.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

VHS. :(

But still better than nothing. I have most of Rusted Pieces on my pc as mpegs already.

[Bent]

I was looking around the internet for concerts, and I came across one I suspect you metalheads should find great.

Dimmu Borgir headlining, with Children of Bodom, Nevermore, and Hypocrisy opening.

[Crabby]

It's nothing like the Pantera dvd :)

I meant in terms of the band taking the piss,etc.No meaningless destruction? Phil must be getting old.Oh well.

[NiMMERS]

Nah there is none of that. But Phil was never really into that whole being a nuffy for the camera. It's all Dimebag really.

That sounds like a killer gig, CAM. Fuck America and all the big bands they get. I think Dimmu Borgir are trying to get down here for the 1st quarter of 2004.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Got around to watching Live After Death.

It's in perfect condition. Well virtually. Yay for me.

Great set too, I wouldn't expect anything less from maiden.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

http://www.anthrax.com/images/ScottInMaxim.jpg

[Crabby]

That sounds like a killer gig, CAM. Fuck America and all the big bands they get. I think Dimmu Borgir are trying to get down here for the 1st quarter of 2004.

I've heard that as well,man.That would be pretty cool.

Went to see The Butterfly Effect last night,but the gig was cancelled due to this massive power outage.Oh well,got to hang out with the band and they're a pretty cool bunch of guys.

[Crabby]

Dave,how is the LAD video different,if at all,to the CD release in regard to the setlist?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Basically it's just the first disc of the double live album.

[Crabby]

Where did you find the videos?

You also need the new Alchemist,Dave.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

2nd hand store in chapel street.

:D

[Nemesis]

I was looking around the internet for concerts, and I came across one I suspect you metalheads should find great.

Dimmu Borgir headlining, with Children of Bodom, Nevermore, and Hypocrisy opening.

I plan on going to that with my girlfriend, since she wants to go. Hope she knows what she's getting into...

[Crabby]

2nd hand store in chapel street.

:D

A mate of mine found an old Anthrax video in a second-hand store a while back,I must borrow it from him sometime soon.

Nemesis,don't ever let her go.Ever.

I went and saw Razel (Brisbane all-chick heavy rock band) last night,and I must say that they were decent.Not great,but better than I expected.At least it was free anyway.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Also had Megadeth's making of Youthanasia and other shit but I didn't have that much money to spend.

[Nemesis]

Nemesis,don't ever let her go.Ever.

:lol:

I just hope she can last there. She's heard Dimmu Borgir and Children of Bodom before, but I don't know if she's going with me just to be nice. :\

[Crabby]

I picked up a copy of Queensryche's "Hear In The Now Frontier"for about AUS $7-8 on EBay.Yay.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Crab I figured I'd drag our little game into this thread. Since I dont know what the last one is.

H- WR (B,1992)
May as well add 9 of my own.

D - P (BFTA 1987)
K - WTSBR (COS 1987)
T - DFG (L 1994)
C - PB (N:DTI 1992)
M - DMTNT (B 1979)
A - SIP (TMO 1998)
R - WOI (LT 1997)
M - D (DAH 2001)
S - TA (APP 2001)

Have Fun. I guess I should explain. it goes Artist - Song (Album YearReleased) since thats the way the songs are on my playlist. Without that mch information it'd be damn hard.

Didn't mean to make them all one worded bands it just came out that way. Prizes? There are no prizes, just I guess you get to do the next set.

[NiMMERS]

You can take your acronyms elsewhere!

[Crabby]

It was Helmet's "Wilma's Rainbow", from the "Betty" album,Dave.

[Crabby]

Speaking of Helmet,I found this on Blabbermouth-

"Contrary to published reports, HELMET have no plans at present to reunite for a tour in conjunction with a retrospective of the group's three studio albums for Interscope, due on November 4 through Universal Records.

A management spokesperson for HELMET frontman Page Hamilton told Billboard.com that he was unsure how the rumor began, but confirmed that Hamilton is working on a new project with late-period HELMET guitarist Chris Traynor, among others. The two musicians recently played together on tracks intended for BUSH frontman Gavin Rossdale's solo debut.

According to the spokesperson, Hamilton is no longer pursuing his band GANDHI, which featured former WHITE ZOMBIE drummer John Tempesta and ROB ZOMBIE bassist Rob Nicholson.

Hamilton is currently unsigned, a fact that he found mildly irritating in light of the band's widespread influence among today's up-and-coming rock acts.

"They're more reluctant to sign someone who's 40 years old and known for this certain thing," Hamilton told Billboard.com in January. "'We think you're the greatest. We respect you so much, but how do we market this?' you go see a band and they're playing a riff I wrote 10 years ago and they have a wallet chain and a load in their pants and they'll get signed."

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Talking about nothing I found this on Infernal Combusion.


As the American northeast recovers from last week's massive power outage, during which an estimated 60 million people – from New York to Detroit to Toronto – were left in the dark, power metal legends Manowar have issued a statement claiming responsibility for the massive blackout.


“First of all, consider this not an Apology, for Kings of Metal grovel before no one,” the statement – credited to bassist and founding member Joey DeMaio – begins. “However, Manowar wishes to acknowledge to the world their role in the Surge of Electrical Power that, much like our vaunted music, rocked the world last week. Though it was not our intention to disrupt the lives of millions of Poseurs, we consider it a Testament to Heavy Metal Might and Thunder that one power chord from our steeled hands could wreak such havoc in the lives of mortals.”


According to DeMaio, guitarist Karl Logan was tuning before a rehearsal at the band's upstate New York studio, and his striking of a “particularly bitchin' and typically intense” power chord coincided with the moment the lights went out for millions of people.


“Real Men Play On Ten, and always have,” Logan comments. “As I am already the fastest, loudest, and most determined heavy metal guitarist on this or any World, I can only assume that it was the power grid itself, weakened by two Decades of our Heavy Metal Assault, that finally surrendered to the Glory and the Honor of True Metal Brotherhood.”


Several naysayers, including high officials in the electrical power industry, insist that an overloaded line in Ohio, or even an attack from computer hackers, are the only likely causes of the outage. “The notion that a guitar player hitting a chord could knock out the entire northeast grid is ludicrous,” commented Cleveland First Energy spokesman Wiffley Snidegarb, on condition of anonymity. “I mean, maybe if it was DeMaio playing 'Flight of the Bumblebee' on bass. Maybe.”


Manowar has stated that, despite their refusal to turn down or in any way betray the heavy metal cause, they do feel sympathy for the cities left hungry and powerless by the force of their might. “We hereby issue the call to all True Metal Brothers and Well-Endowed Women of Steel – come to us, to our studio, and we will teach you the primitive ways of hunting, gathering, conquering and pillaging. These old ways of survival will be useful soon, as it has become obvious that Manowar's uncompromising Sonic Savagery is too strong for civilization itself to endure. Once the Blood-Forged Might of our Victorious Anthems cause this weak-willed Society and its trappings to crumble, the World's Loudest Band will lead you all to a new era, where Real Men hunt for their meat in the woods, and @#%$ their Metal Maidens with Lust and Pride near a roaring fire next to a cave, while drinking their Beer from a hollowed horn and bellowing praises to the Old Gods. The time is nearly upon us, Brothers and Sisters!”


DeMaio concluded that, should fans be unable or unwilling to shed their modern lives and move to the woods of upstate New York to live naked in a cave, that purchasing a t-shirt or mesh-backed baseball cap from the band's online store would be “almost as cool.”

Finally the truth comes out.

[Crabby]

I found this on The Mark Of Cain's website-

"Yes, we've seen the guest book entries saying what lazy c**nts we are for not putting up any news. So, I will update the site myself and see if I can learn how to do web-site design in my spare time.

We have had 2 web designers in the last 2 years agree to redesign the site, and so far none have delivered on time and this has been quite a source of frustration to both Kim and myself, and I would say, and quite justifiably, to Sue (Administrator) as well. The costs for any re-development are too high for our meager budget so I will update this section today, and start learning how to get products such as Flash and Shockwave working with dreamweaver or whatever web design tools I end up getting.

If anyone has some experience in managing a Forum, and I'm thinking that perhaps someone out there who uses it frequently and likes that sort of thing, perhaps they could drop us a line if they are interested in taking over the Forum, ie.maintenance and moderation etc. We would pay back in gratis or some other arrangement.

I finished work on the The 13th House music last November 2002. As I mentioned earlier, it was grueling. The music they wanted changed every 2 weeks, and eventually I gave them what I had written and asked a real composer to help them out on the stuff they wanted to sound like "insert other music style here". Here is a link to The Thirteenth House site....it looks like a corporate site so don't be fooled, it can be weird to navigate but I am sure you will work it out.

My music is in the last third of the film, and I will put some pieces up for download should anyone want to hear what a rock and roll guy does when he has to write synth music with "ABSOLUTELY NO DRUMS or PERCUSSION ALLOWED!!!" I think my friend Shane did a great job directing though and the film was given a good review by David Stratten.

I believe it may get toured nationally at small theatres, so if I find out anymore I will put it here.

So, we said an album was due early 2003 - well, that didn't happen. Reasons why?

Kim is now totally in charge of the company he began working for 11 years ago. That means a lot of his time is involved in work, meetings, flying interstate and overseas. He also has a wife and 2 children who also like to see him. I guess it's called getting old, but that is the way it goes.

Me, well, apart from the the f*cked up attempt at writing music for films, I am still working also, and although I have no family per se, it seems as you get older your day job asks for more time as you get more responsibility. That word still makes me shudder....

I have a side-project called, tentatively, "ZERO KILLS" - 3 piece, just trying to write and work out what we are doing. I will give more on that later.

Tomahawk have released another album (yeah, well it;s easy to do when you have a drummer there all the time), and John Stanier is touring with Patton, Duane et all, plus is in another band called "Battles" with ex-Don Cabbellero members. John doesn't want to come over here for just a tour, he wants to record as well as tour - Otherwise we would have toured again already. John's not used to touring the same material for 4 years I guess like we are - he actually likes new material each year - funny guy!

So - where does that leave The Mark of Cain? All I can ask is that our fans (those who are left) try and remember that unlike most bands, we are not in this for the money and fame, and we are people who work during the day and are just like you. We have to try find the time to do these things and sometimes it is hard. So, while most bands tour incessantly to try and "make it", or pay the bills, and therefore most times write shit to fill up their expected quota of albums - we like to do it our way.

My plan is to secure the services of a drummer to rehearse some tmoc songs, so we can develop some ideas and send them to Stanier. He will then learn them and come over next year to record and tour. Kim and I both would prefer John to remain a part of the band (even while playing in others that pay well), as at this point Kim nor I think we can deal with going through watching/listening to yet another drummer learning the intricacies of Pointman (Stanno called this "Calculus Rock") - and the dearth of songs we already have from over all the years.

Hope this catches you up.

Thank you again to those who remain true.

All our Best,

John and Kim"

I look forward to this.TMOC haven't played enough shows for ages.



In other kick arse news,Alchemist,Dungeon,Daysend,Earth and Stockholm Syndrome are doing a gig in Sydney in a few weeks. \m/

[Crabby]

Confirmed Killing Joke Aussie tour dates (this is pretty damn good news)-

Wednesday 19th November Metro – Sydney Over 18s.
Friday 21st November Arena – Brisbane Over 18s.
Sunday 23rd November Palace – Melbourne Over 18s.

Tickets for all shows go on sale September 4 from Ticketek.

[Bent]

I found this on The Mark Of Cain's website-

"Yes, we've seen the guest book entries saying what lazy c**nts we are for not putting up any news. So, I will update the site myself and see if I can learn how to do web-site design in my spare time.

We have had 2 web designers in the last 2 years agree to redesign the site, and so far none have delivered on time and this has been quite a source of frustration to both Kim and myself, and I would say, and quite justifiably, to Sue (Administrator) as well. The costs for any re-development are too high for our meager budget so I will update this section today, and start learning how to get products such as Flash and Shockwave working with dreamweaver or whatever web design tools I end up getting.

If anyone has some experience in managing a Forum, and I'm thinking that perhaps someone out there who uses it frequently and likes that sort of thing, perhaps they could drop us a line if they are interested in taking over the Forum, ie.maintenance and moderation etc. We would pay back in gratis or some other arrangement.

I finished work on the The 13th House music last November 2002. As I mentioned earlier, it was grueling. The music they wanted changed every 2 weeks, and eventually I gave them what I had written and asked a real composer to help them out on the stuff they wanted to sound like "insert other music style here". Here is a link to The Thirteenth House site....it looks like a corporate site so don't be fooled, it can be weird to navigate but I am sure you will work it out.

My music is in the last third of the film, and I will put some pieces up for download should anyone want to hear what a rock and roll guy does when he has to write synth music with "ABSOLUTELY NO DRUMS or PERCUSSION ALLOWED!!!" I think my friend Shane did a great job directing though and the film was given a good review by David Stratten.

I believe it may get toured nationally at small theatres, so if I find out anymore I will put it here.

So, we said an album was due early 2003 - well, that didn't happen. Reasons why?

Kim is now totally in charge of the company he began working for 11 years ago. That means a lot of his time is involved in work, meetings, flying interstate and overseas. He also has a wife and 2 children who also like to see him. I guess it's called getting old, but that is the way it goes.

Me, well, apart from the the f*cked up attempt at writing music for films, I am still working also, and although I have no family per se, it seems as you get older your day job asks for more time as you get more responsibility. That word still makes me shudder....

I have a side-project called, tentatively, "ZERO KILLS" - 3 piece, just trying to write and work out what we are doing. I will give more on that later.

Tomahawk have released another album (yeah, well it;s easy to do when you have a drummer there all the time), and John Stanier is touring with Patton, Duane et all, plus is in another band called "Battles" with ex-Don Cabbellero members. John doesn't want to come over here for just a tour, he wants to record as well as tour - Otherwise we would have toured again already. John's not used to touring the same material for 4 years I guess like we are - he actually likes new material each year - funny guy!

So - where does that leave The Mark of Cain? All I can ask is that our fans (those who are left) try and remember that unlike most bands, we are not in this for the money and fame, and we are people who work during the day and are just like you. We have to try find the time to do these things and sometimes it is hard. So, while most bands tour incessantly to try and "make it", or pay the bills, and therefore most times write shit to fill up their expected quota of albums - we like to do it our way.

My plan is to secure the services of a drummer to rehearse some tmoc songs, so we can develop some ideas and send them to Stanier. He will then learn them and come over next year to record and tour. Kim and I both would prefer John to remain a part of the band (even while playing in others that pay well), as at this point Kim nor I think we can deal with going through watching/listening to yet another drummer learning the intricacies of Pointman (Stanno called this "Calculus Rock") - and the dearth of songs we already have from over all the years.

Hope this catches you up.

Thank you again to those who remain true.

All our Best,

John and Kim"

I look forward to this.TMOC haven't played enough shows for ages.



In other kick arse news,Alchemist,Dungeon,Daysend,Earth and Stockholm Syndrome are doing a gig in Sydney in a few weeks. \m/ I still haven't heard The Mark of Cain. I'll check them out when I find the time. John Stainer is probably my favorite drummer, so I'll check out anything he's in.

And Battles blew my mind when I saw them.

[Bent]

NAPALM DEATH bassist Shane Embury, ex-NAPALM DEATH drummer Mick Harris and former BRUTAL TRUTH singer Kevin Sharp will be teaming up in a brand new "total punk thrash grind band." The as-yet-unnamed group, which may also include MELVINS/FANTOMAS guitarist Buzz Osborne, is tentatively set to record an album later in the year. No further information is available at this time.

[Crabby]

As far as TMOC goes,"This Is This......" and "Ill At Ease" are the best albums to check out.I love how Stainer said how "With Helmet we played math rock,with TMOC we play fucking calculus rock."

[Crabby]

It seems I'll be going to the Marilyn Manson show in Sydney.Not really a fan (though his stage show is reasonably entertaining) but a mate had someone pull out on him and sold me the ticket cheaper.Plus transport won't cost me anything.Yay.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I found this elsewhere


1. Tell them every metal band worships the devil.
2. Ask if all black metal bands are trying to copy KISS or just most of them.
3. Hide their joint under their library card.
4. Ask if they know of any other cool bands like Slipknot.
5. If they're listening to metal, tell them it sounds like some mainstream band. Doesn't matter who.
6. Say it's all a ripoff of Iron Butterfly anyway.
7. Ask if they've given their souls to Jesus yet.
8. Vaguely imply that you're gay and would like their company for the evening.
9. Record over their Cannibal Corpse albums with other Cannibal Corpse albums and see if they ever notice the difference.
10. Refuse to accept their fake I.D.
11. Ask how much Dio got paid for his role as Stuart Little.
12. Use the phrase "cookie monster vocals" and act like it's the funniest, most original thing you've ever come up with.
13. If they're listening to metal, tell them "These guys don't have talent. Now <insert any mainstream band here>, those guys have talent!"
14. Say "What is vinyl?"
15. Point out how stupid manowar is. If they agree, tell them the only thing more stupid is Black Sabbath with Dio.
16. Tell them it all sounds the same.
17. Admit that Cliff Burton was a dirty hippy who had already peaked musically.
18. If they say they love 80s metal, ask them what ever happened to Poison.
19. Tell them you like underground music too, like <insert the newest overhyped fashionable loud-ish band from the radio>
20. Point out that Tarja from Nightwish can't sing.
21. Insist that Emperor videos would be better if they used a dance troupe.
22. Ask if Mayhem is Marilyn Manson's band.
23. Divert their CD shipments to the local Jewish community center.
24. Write "God Loves You" on their Venom backpatch.
25. Point out that just about every genre of music has an underground with bands who have integrity, so metal really isn't that unique.
26. Post under their nickname on a power metal board and say Ray Alder shits all over John Arch.
27. Take out the Iron Maiden disc and put in 50 Cent.
28. Give them a spiky pop-punk haircut while they sleep.
29. Pronounce "Celtic Frost" correctly.
30. If they're over 25, say that people can still rock even if they have an unplanned child or two and drive a grocery getter. Then point and laugh.
31. Tell them you're not hiring and to try the other Cinnabon down the street.
32. Sit quietly and applaud politely at a metal show.
33. Make them be sober for five whole seconds.
34. Ask if Randy Rhoads was on the same flight as John Denver.
35. Tell them Korn brought metal back to life in the 90s.
36. Turn the bass way up on their stereo.
37. Laugh at Slayer for stealing their name from the Buffy show.
38. Call Doro fat.
39. Call them on their horrible grammar and/or spelling.
40. Remind them that metal is partially derived from the blues. Then accuse them of being wiggers.
41. Use the phrase "balls in a vice" at least three times when talking about classic metal and/or power metal vocalists.
42. If it's a guy with long hair, address him as if he were female. Don't correct yourself about it.
43. Be impressed with how much RoadRunner Records has improved over the past ten years.
44. Say you love Metallica's debut, The Black Album.
45. Notice that Lemmy hasn't moved his left hand in 30 years of playing bass.
46. Refer to metal as "that kill-your-father rape-your-mother stuff."
47. Ask them if their favorite band is so good, how come nobody has ever heard of them.
48. Pine for the good old days when Pour Some Sugar On Me was a big hit.
49. Tell them you used to be a metalhead, but grew out of it when you started listening to more intellectual stuff like <insert any band at all here>
50. Post a list of "Ways To Annoy Metal Fans" knowing full well that so many of them internalize everything and can't take a joke.

[Crabby]

Apparently the support for Soilwork/Frankenbok in Sydney is Stronger Than Hate,instead of Descend.So there you go anyway.

[NiMMERS]

Here's a new Machine Head track if anyone is interested. Right now it's half way downloaded. I await eaaaaaaaaaaaaaagerly!

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/shared/downloads/MachineHead/leftunfinished.mp3

[Aussie_Outlaw]

MH by numbers?

Plus whats with the start anyway?

[Crabby]

I actually don't mind what I've heard of the new track.

[Crabby]

BTW,here's the tracklisting for the new album-

1. Imperium
2. Bite The Bullet
3. Left Unfinished
4. Elegy
5. In The Presence Of My Enemies
6. Days Turn Blue To Gray
7. Vim
8. All Fall Down
9. Wipe The Tears
10. Descend The Shades Of Night

Apparently,their will be a bonus edition of the album.As Rob says, "Bonus version of TTAOE that will include a bunch o' shit that only "hardcore" MH fans will appreciate. In other words... don't buy it if you're not!! It will also include six unreleased demo versions of the TTAOE songs."

And listening to Fantomas' self-titled in the dark is seriously weird stuff.

[Crabby]

It seems Jerk will be supporting Marilyn Manson in Sydney.Not that I like em' at all,but here's my chance to hit them with something anyway.

[SideburnZ]

Anyone watch Uranium? Well it's a metal show with a super hot host. Last night she interviewed Strapping Young Lad, Nile and Napalm Death.

Devy looks like bald Ted Nugent. He's real nice though, funny too. Same goes for the drummer. She asked what bands they hate, and like before she even finished the question Devy was like "PAPA ROACH!".

One of the dudes from Nile looks like Shawn Michaels. They were cool too.

Napalm Death guy looks like Hagrad from Harry Potter. They were all serious and political.

Anyays, totally random, but if you have Fuse (formerly Much Music) check the show out. They play some shitty stuff (Disturbed :nono: ) but for the most part its quality videos and cool bands being interviewed.

Plus the host :drool: Mmmmm.

[Crabby]

Napalm Death have just put out a best-of style compilation.I might have to pick it up.

Devy does kinda look old for a guy who's 31 but hell,it's Devy.The man is a metal genius and I couldnt care less what he looks like.And Gene Hoglan is one of the very best drummers in the world.

Have you checked out any of his non-Strapping Young Lad projects yet,BurnZ?

[SideburnZ]

Yeah, dude, I wasn't insulting them.

Sometimes you just say stuff to prove you know lots of stuff, I think. :irked: Show off.

Not yet, I will soon though.

[Crabby]

I know you weren't ripping on Devy.I was just making a general comment on the matter.

Check out Ocean Machine's "Biomech" or Devin Townsend Band's "Accelerated Evolution".Both awesome melodic metal albums.Not as heavy and intense as SYL but pretty damn good.

In other news, Dungeon's "A Rise To Power" is getting a bunch of different re-issues for Australia,Japan and the US with some cool cover tracks.

[NiMMERS]

Devin only looks old cos of the DevCut TM. He brings new life to the skirted eggshell look.

I suggest getting 'Infinity' for all it's weirdness. It's simply awesome and the most challenging listen of all his works.

It's also worth getting your hands on Ass Sordid Demos. Which has some early versions of his songs which appear on Biomech and Infinity. I think you can only get it via HevyDevy online though.

[Crabby]

Do you know what the release date for the SYL EP is yet?

[NiMMERS]

I'm sure it's a while off. I don't even know if they're working on it at the moment. I just wish Devy would hurry the fuck up and bring the Keep It In The Family tour down here.

Crabby you need some Zimmers Hole. It's spoof metal with lyrics that are complete blue vein cheese but it's top music taking the piss out of metal.

[Crabby]

You've told me about Zimmers Hole before,but I've never bothered to check em' out yet.I must do so.

Only a few weeks until Soilwork,which reminds me that I've got to go pick up my ticket (I've already bought it,just haven't got it from the box office yet).

Now Playing- Opeth- Leper Affinity.

[NiMMERS]

I don't think you'd have much luck finding them in stores down here. Maybe at a big metal store like Utopia.

Ooooh Soilwork! I'm geed up for that one.

[Crabby]

How are you getting down there?

Apparently The Gaelic Club is easy to find from Central Station.

[NiMMERS]

Probably driving to Hornsby with Monkey and training it from there. Yeah I hear it's a stumble from Central.

[Crabby]

We'll have to meet up at the station probably.

I mentioned earlier that Descend aren't the opening act,it's now Stronger Than Hate.

You have any chat thingys,man?

[NiMMERS]

I got's ICQ. I use MSN for emails mainly.
Check my info or PM me.

Anyway, time to go watch my Knights get flogged.

[Crabby]

They're in front 14-6.At least your team is still in semi-final contention.

The Geeks Tour tickets go on sale in a few weeks.

Now Playing- The Dilinger Escape Plan- Come To Daddy.

[NiMMERS]

42 - 8
Yeah baby.
I wonder who we play in the semis? I think it's either the Raiders or the Panthers or something.

I forgot to add my 2 cents on the new Machine Head track. It sounds alright. It's way better than anything on Supercharger or The Burning Red but it's by no means a return to form. Somewhere between the Burn My Eyes/The More Things Change... sound by the putrid smell of the 2 preceding albums still lingers like a rancid fart.

[Crabby]

You know without Joey you won't go that far in the finals,though.

[NiMMERS]

We'll see. We werent going THAT great with him in the time leading to his neck injury. I think they'll go alright if they play switched on.

They tend to go off the rails if a few little things don't go their way.

Still, they played awesome this arvo. Just lack some solid direction in the opposition 10m.

[Crabby]

You heard anything from Stronger Than Hate? Maybe they;ll just be a possibly pleasant surprise at Soilwork.

[QuietStorm]

Anyone listen to Agalloch? It sounds like they rip Opeth off but everything I have heard I enjoy. Plus they are from Portland, OR. Wooo...good metal from America!

[Crabby]

I thought this was interesting-

"ANTHRAX drummer Charlie Benante recently spoke to Brendan Manley of the Long Island Press about the disappointing U.S. sales performance of the band's latest CD, "We've Come For You All". "We're very happy with [the record]," Benante said. "We just want it to start selling more. Whoever has it loves it. It's just [a matter of] reaching these other people that are just sleepin'."

Benante says that the blame for the low sales of ANTHRAX latest CD can be attributed to the current trends in American pop music, which he claims place a premium on hit singles and star quality. "I think that people [in America] are just stupid," he said. "They are not like the Europeans. The Europeans fuckin' love it, ya know? They love their music — they're loyal. See, over there, it's about the record, it's about the band. Over here it's about the fucking song. ... It just doesn't make sense to me sometimes. What happened here? It's sad."

"It's just a very sad time for music," Benante said of the recent rap-metal/nu-metal trend. "I've felt that way for a while now—that music now is just contrived, and it's just people just ripping off [whatever else is] popular and there's no real integrity in it. There's no growth, there's nothing. LINKIN PARK — their second album is basically the first album." Read more."

[NiMMERS]

I've heard the name Stronger Than Hate.
Can't say I've heard them play a note.

I wish Daysend were on support.

[Crabby]

I'll probably go see Daysend soon,they're doing a few shows in Sydney with Alchemist, Dungeon and a few others anyway.

[NiMMERS]

Nice. I hope they make their way up here.

[Crabby]

You've seen em' before,huh? They seem to be doing quite well for themselves since Psi.Kore split up.

[Ringo]

few things, sorry if they've already been mentioned, but Im not going to search through all these pages...
1. Anyone looking forward to Dance Of Death? (this must have ben mentioned, so if you can show me where that would be good)
2. What does everyone think of Winebago Deal? Saw them at Reading in UK and they were great. I imagine they may not yet have made it across to the States or Australia yet so you may not have heard of them
3. Has anyone heard Zyklon's new album, Aeon yet? is it out? what does everyone think of it? or just Zyklon as a band.
4. Should I get "As the Palaces Burn" ? is it very good?
5. Superjoint Ritual's latest, Lethal Dose Of American Hatred, I think is good, what does everyone else think?
6. If you don't already have it, Alive In Athens by Iced Earth is excellent.

Thanks...

[Ringo]

oh and 7. Same as question 1 , just instead of Dance Of Death, "Through the ashes of empires" ?

[Crabby]

Yep,I am very much looking forward to DOD.Dave and I have been discussing it a lot the last few pages.I dig the new single and video as well. \m/

New Superjoint Ritual fucking rocks IMO.Raw as fuck and plenty of intensity.I hear the DVD is pretty good as well anyway.

I'll definitely check out the new Machine Head album.The first single is eh IMO,but I think Phil Demmel's influence on the band IMO could make for a better overall album than the last two,both of which had their moments but overall weren't that good.

[SideburnZ]

Anyone listen to Agalloch? It sounds like they rip Opeth off but everything I have heard I enjoy. Plus they are from Portland, OR. Wooo...good metal from America!

Have you heard LL Cool J? Cuz he sounds like Cannibus, and you love Cannibus.

[QuietStorm]

Didn't you get the memo that Korn and Tool both fucking suck?

[NiMMERS]

You've seen em' before,huh? They seem to be doing quite well for themselves since Psi.Kore split up.

I've seen Daysend about 3-4 times. They're 2/5 Psi.Kore. They're WAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY better. Simon Calabrese has an awesome voice and the lead guitarist is one of the best I've seen. Fuck, they just write great songs.

few things, sorry if they've already been mentioned, but Im not going to search through all these pages...
1. Anyone looking forward to Dance Of Death? (this must have ben mentioned, so if you can show me where that would be good)
2. What does everyone think of Winebago Deal? Saw them at Reading in UK and they were great. I imagine they may not yet have made it across to the States or Australia yet so you may not have heard of them
3. Has anyone heard Zyklon's new album, Aeon yet? is it out? what does everyone think of it? or just Zyklon as a band.
4. Should I get "As the Palaces Burn" ? is it very good?
5. Superjoint Ritual's latest, Lethal Dose Of American Hatred, I think is good, what does everyone else think?
6. If you don't already have it, Alive In Athens by Iced Earth is excellent.

Thanks...
1. No
2. Never heard of them.
3. It's not out yet. There's a link in this thread to a new song off 'Aeon'. It's fucking great! Zyklon are a great band. Get both their albums. Combining the best elements of black and death metal.
4. It would be of the highest priority to get it. Or a virtual headbutt will be coming your way.
5. It's good. I like the debut, 'Use Once and Destroy' better though. Get the DVD, it's nice, intense and in your face.
6. Iced Earth do nothing for me.

[Ringo]

Yeah I heard "Subtle Manipulation" from Aeon, tis excellent.

[NiMMERS]

Is that available anywhere on a site? Or am I gonna have to go P2P'ing for it?

I just got 'Mechanical Spin Phenomena' by Mnemic. It's simply awesome. I can hear bits and pieces of Fear Factory, Meshuggah and Soilwork. I highly reccomend it. It's catchy as hell.

Also got The Haunted's 'One Kill Wonder'.

[Ringo]

It was on a free CD.

[them69]

Anyone listen to Darkest Hour? They are pretty cool.

[Nemesis]

I've heard of them before. What do they sound like??

[Crabby]

Metal For The Brain press release.I think I'll definitely have to make the effort to get there this year-

" Metal For The Brain 2003

Australia's largest and longest-running heavy music festival returns with vengeance.

Saturday December 20th 2003

University of Canberra Refectory

34 bands across 3 massive stages

ALL STAGES ALL AGES!

Artists already confirmed for this year's event include:

KERRANG STAGE: Damaged Blood Duster Destroyer 666 Dungeon Earth Astriaal
Pod People Devolved Infernal Method

TRIPLE J STAGE: Alchemist Superheist Cog Jerk Frankenbok Contrive

OUTDOOR STAGE: Hobbs Angel of Death Psycroptic Fuck I'm Dead Psychrist
Gospel of the Horns Atomizer

More artists announced as confirmed."

[Aussie_Outlaw]

How far are you from canberra Brendan?

:chin:

[Crabby]

Nimmers- here's some good news for us.

Strapping Young Lad Aussie tour dates-

Brisbane - Thursday 30th October
Sydney - Friday 31st October
Melbourne - Saturday 1st November
Adelaide - Sunday 2nd November
Perth - Monday 3rd November

Tickets on sale September 10.The Sydney show is at The Metro and tickets are $43 plus booking fee.

[Crabby]

A couple of hours,Dave.You interested?

[NiMMERS]

Anyone listen to Darkest Hour? They are pretty cool.

Yeah they're pretty good. They got that Swedish melodic thrash sound with a hardcore-ish sound.

Damn Soilwork and now SYL and Opeth in December? This year is getting better!

[Crabby]

We'll have to meet up again for a few beers at SYL,man.

I'm hoping Soilwork do an in-store the day of the Sydney show.

[NiMMERS]

For sure.

Everyone by 'Mechanical Spin Phenomena' by Mnemic!

[Crabby]

BTW,I finally checked out Poison The Well.Thought they were okay,I'll give em; more of a listen.

[NiMMERS]

Get shit off the latest one. It's great. I may have said before.....they've got a bit of an organic feel to them. Hardcore with a dash of emo and thrash.

[Crabby]

MFTB line-up looks pretty damn good.I'd go to see Alchemist,Cog,Frankenbok,Astriaal,Dungeon,Earth and a few others.

And apparently you can also get Strapping Young lad tickets throught Ticketek as well as The Metro.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

NP: Iron Maiden - Rainmaker

I'm getting goosebumps :$

:headbang:


When I was wandering in the desert I was searching for the truth
I heard of choir angels calling out my name
I had some feeling that my life would never be the same again
I turned my face towards the barron sun.

And I know, all the pain, that you feel the same as me
And I dream of the rain as it falls upon the leaves
And the cracks in our lives live the cracks upon the ground
They are sealed and now washed away

You tell me we can stop the rain
You tell me that we all can change
You tell me we can find something to wash the tears away
You tell me we can stop the rain
You tell me that we all can change
You tell me we can find something to wash the tears

And I know, all the pain, that you feel the same as me
And I dream of the rain as it falls upon the leaves
And the cracks in the ground like the cracks are in our lives
They are sealed and are now far away

You tell me we can stop the rain
You tell me that we all can change
You tell me we can find something to wash the tears away
You tell me we can stop the rain
You tell me that we all can change
You tell me we can find something to wash the tears away

You tell me we can stop the rain
You tell me that we all can change
You tell me we can find something to wash the tears away
You tell me we can stop the rain
You tell me that we all can change
You tell me we can find something to wash the tears

And I know, all the pain, that you feel the same as me
And I dream of the rain as it falls upon the leaves
And the cracks in the ground like the cracks are in our lives
They are sealed and are now far away.


i couldnt find the lyrics pulled from the song well enough so I did it myself.

[Crabby]

But no Aussie tour looking likely,eh? Bummer.

[Monkey]

Nimmers- here's some good news for us.

Strapping Young Lad Aussie tour dates-

Brisbane - Thursday 30th October
Sydney - Friday 31st October
Melbourne - Saturday 1st November
Adelaide - Sunday 2nd November
Perth - Monday 3rd November

Tickets on sale September 10.The Sydney show is at The Metro and tickets are $43 plus booking fee.


ack ack ack..... *stops breathing*

Is this for real?
Cause it's not actually listed on the devy site anywhere and Tracy hasn't made any posts about it to the list yet either........

[Crabby]

Yep,the dates are confirmed.The Sydney show details are on The Metro's website.

[NiMMERS]

I think you can get them from Ticketek.

Nothing says cool cat like wearing a Slayer shirt into a snooty cocktail bar.

[Crabby]

Picked up my Soilwork ticket today,while I was in Sydney I picked up the new Iron Maiden (pretty good) and the Fantomas/The Melvins Big Band album (on sale for only $15 as well).Yay.

I saw an advertisement for the SYL show in Drum Media today.Yep,you can get tickets from Ticketek.

Mickey,we'll have to arrange a meeting time next time we're both on-line.

[NiMMERS]

Shit! Only if ya held off getting ya ticket tomorrow cos Monkey and I are going down to Sydney for a day trip tomorrow (Up Utopia!).

We were thinking of holding off until Thursday but it's cool about the Ticketek news.

I plan to fill a few odds and ends in my Immortal and Mayhem catalogue plus look out for the the artists formerly known as Burn the Priest's (Lamb of God) debut albums.

[Alex E]

My ProgPower IV pictures so far. (http://www.pbase.com/megawozniak2/inbox)

[Crabby]

Shit! Only if ya held off getting ya ticket tomorrow cos Monkey and I are going down to Sydney for a day trip tomorrow (Up Utopia!).

We were thinking of holding off until Thursday but it's cool about the Ticketek news.

I plan to fill a few odds and ends in my Immortal and Mayhem catalogue plus look out for the the artists formerly known as Burn the Priest's (Lamb of God) debut albums.

Yep,I went to Utopia yesterday.I wonder if Soilwork are having an in-store there.

I've got to work tomorrow anyway,I'll get my SYL ticket tomorrow afternoon.

You get tickets from the Ticketek site,which is what I'll be doing. \m/

[NiMMERS]

Fuck Utopia is huge now.

I ended up getting Omnium Gatherum - Spirits and August Light and Immortal - Damned In Black.

PLUS we received our latest order from HevyDevy. Got Punchdrunk finally!!!!! 100% Hoglan worship session. Also my SYL long sleeve dress shirt.

[WizoOzz]

Since the new Maiden album's coming out, I've got an excuse to go ahead and buy a cd or two.

So someone convince me to buy the new Anthrax when I get the new Maiden...please.

[GameOver!]

W O R M !! I N F E S T E D

:beer:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

So someone convince me to buy the new Anthrax when I get the new Maiden...please.

Wizz, I shouldn't have to convince you because if you've been reading the forum you'd see that the new Anthrax album is the album of the year in my opinion and alot of other people who aren't me's opinion.

Hell if there's one reason you need it, it'd be to hear some good metal instead of the shite put out by Metallica. And Benante behind the kit = greatness.

[Nemesis]

W O R M !! I N F E S T E D

:beer:

Yeah! The cover of No Remorse fucking rules! They took a song I didn't even like and made it awesome.

...though the chick on the cover looks like a painting of a chick that I know...a lot like her...:scared:

[Crabby]

Wizz,I highly recommend the new Anthrax from what I've heard of it anyway.

Yay,got my SYL ticket today,hopefully there's some good support acts announced.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Wizz,I highly recommend the new Anthrax from what I've heard of it anyway.

YOU DON'T OWN IT :O

You said you would. I am no longer speaking to you.

Whoever you are.

[Crabby]

But when I do buy it you'll talk to me again?

[NiMMERS]

So someone convince me to buy the new Anthrax when I get the new Maiden...please.

Bah! No pimping spiel needed. Just fucking buy it! It's killer.

[GameOver!]

...though the chick on the cover looks like a painting of a chick that I know...a lot like her...:scared:She's hot.

[NiMMERS]

Got my Strapping Young Lad ticket. Soilwork this Saturday and Opeth in December.

Plus, Dimmu Borgir in early 2004!

[J Feisty]

you all have good taste in music. I saw soilwork with In Flames about 3 months ago, they are so awesome, ive seen them 2 times now, thee only times theyve ever came to the USA, are they popular with metalheads down under>?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Soilwork or In Flames?

The Metal Community is pretty much the same worldwide, not really going for trends or anything.

But as it will be said and has been said before In Flames are going downhill, they're still good but they were MUCH better. Goes for Soilwork also.

But yeah Metalheads pretty much like the same bands all over the world. Just that opinion will differ depending on which metal circle you are a part of.

[NiMMERS]

Yeah the metal scene globally pretty much follows the same sort of standards. You have your scenes and groups and the people in them.

In Flames are nowhere near as good as they were in the 90's and the turnover of the century.

I wouldnt go as far as Soilwork doing this as I've been listening to FN5 lately and it's good....but I still love the older stuff as I usually go for the more intesne stuff.

[J Feisty]

yeah, i agree, soilwork is great, but fn5 was nothing compared to Steel Bath Suicide

[Nemesis]

Plus, Dimmu Borgir in early 2004!

I can't wait to see them. Nevermore is one of the supporting acts, and I just heard them for the first time last week. Not too bad.

[Crabby]

I was reading "Drum Media" today,and there was an interview with a couple of the members of Soilwork about their Aussie tour anyway.Apparently in Europe these days they only play stuff from the last three albums,but for the Australian tour they'll be playing material from the last four albums,including some stuff they haven't played in a while. And they'll be playing longer sets than usual,supposedly about an hour-and-a-half at each show.So there's some great news for Saturday night anyway.

Mickey,don't forget The Geeks Tour in December.

[NiMMERS]

Sweet. I'm still begging for some 'Steelbath Suicide' shit though.

Don't worry, I aint forgot about the Geeks.

Also downloaded a Dillinger Escape Plan track, 'Come To Daddy'. What can I say? It was interesting.

[Bent]

Sweet. I'm still begging for some 'Steelbath Suicide' shit though.

Don't worry, I aint forgot about the Geeks.

Also downloaded a Dillinger Escape Plan track, 'Come To Daddy'. What can I say? It was interesting.

The whole Dillinger/Patton EP is sick. If you want the best sample of the EP, download "When Good Dogs Do Bad Things." In my opinion, it's one of the best songs I've ever heard. But Dillinger's new singer sucks; he sounds like the dude from Staind, and their new song has a nu-metal edge to it.

[NiMMERS]

The whole Dillinger/Patton EP is sick. If you want the best sample of the EP, download "When Good Dogs Do Bad Things." In my opinion, it's one of the best songs I've ever heard. But Dillinger's new singer sucks; he sounds like the dude from Staind, and their new song has a nu-metal edge to it.

I'll get the song. I was never a huge fan of Staind so that's not good news for DEP. I hate the way Aaron Lewis cups the mic to make his screams sound better. He shouldnt be doing that every scream.

Hey Brendan, I read on the Devy board that Daysend are supporting. Fucking awesome news. I'll be able to pick up their debut when we're there.

[Crabby]

Hey Brendan, I read on the Devy board that Daysend are supporting. Fucking awesome news. I'll be able to pick up their debut when we're there.

Damn cool,I think I'll do the same. I wonder who the other support act will be anyway.

Tomorrow night should be absolutely killer.

[Monkey]

WHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

What a fucking week!

Got abused by an old guy for a (in his opinion) sub-standard tiling job. (He only paid me $15 a square metre mind you.)

Finished moving house, many thaks to Nimmers and Grim for their time.

Went for a trip to Utopia with Nimmers and came home with Children Of Bodom - Something Wild and Flesh Mechanic debut in hand.

FINALLY got my Zimmers Hole long sleeve that I've been hanging out for for 2 years!
Plus my SYL beanie!

And then....... I picked up my ticket to SYL! WHooooo! Devy Mach II

Then to top it all off, tomorrow night is Soilwork/Frankenbok for what should be a fucking awesome night!

This has been, by far, the best week ever!
I don't want to go back to work next Monday after all this good shit!

[Crabby]

Here's the Soilwork setlist from Brisbane the other night-

the flameout
figure no. 5
needlefeast
mercury shadow
overload
million flame
strangler
the bringer
like the average stalker
cranking the sirens
bastard chain
as we speak
chainheart machine
rejection role

And apparently merchandise were as follows-$30 for a short sleeve, $40 for a long and $50 for a hoodie.

[Crabby]

Sweet. I'm still begging for some 'Steelbath Suicide' shit though.

Don't worry, I aint forgot about the Geeks.

Also downloaded a Dillinger Escape Plan track, 'Come To Daddy'. What can I say? It was interesting.

The Dilinger Escape Plan EP with Patton is pretty damn good, as Brent said. I'm yet to hear em' with their new vocalist,though.

Picked up Geeks tickets today,yay.

[Ringo]

I bought "Enemies Of Reality" by Nevermore the other day, I really shouldn't have, Its not very good... any of you heard any of this album? I finally got Down II though, which IS fantastic.....

Also, is Aeon out yet????

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Enemies of Reality suffers from a really bad production by Kelly Gray and really bad EQ. It's a well written album but the production takes a hell of alot away.

Dead Heart In A Dead World is so much better. It's a fucking awesome album and brilliant production (Andy Sneap)

And you know with Sneap it's gotta be good.

[Crabby]

Here's the Soilwork setlist from last night-

The Flameout
Figure number five
Needlefeast
Millionflame
Follow the hollow
like the average stalker
overload
light the torch
the bringer
bastard chain
as we speak
Distortion sleep

encore:

Chainheart Machine
Rejection role

Mickey, I found this on the HevyDevy site about the new SYL EP-

"Strapping has a new song written called “Love” for the upcoming EP that incorporates all of the heaviness of past Strapping with a bit of dark Infinity flair. The EP will contain 4 new songs and 4 cover songs. They have a huge list they are choosing from but will whittle it down before the studio. On the subject of cover songs SYL has also agreed to appear on an upcoming Melvins tribute album doing the song “Zodiac”."

[Grimario]

:yes::yes: to AO for the Dream Theater recommendation. A friend purchased A Change of Seasons and Once in a LIVE Time and I have been listening to both of them a great deal over the last week or two. Awesome stuff :yesyes:

[Crabby]

You should check out "Images And Words","Awake" and "MO2",now,Grim.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I recommended DT? Must have been awhile ago.

But Live Scenes In NY is way better than Once In A Live Time. But yeah Images and Words and Awake and Scenes From A memory are godly.

:yes:

[Crabby]

Bummer they weren't selling any Frankenbok CD's last night.I would have happily picked one up at the show.

[Grimario]

Nimmers leant me Live Scenes From NY... have it sitting on my desk at the moment and will give it a spin when time permits (ie: when its not late at night and the neighbours wont complain)

[NiMMERS]

Fuck me. Soilwork and Frankenbok went off like the proverbial frog in a sock.

Adam B. Metal was pimping a 30th October release date for 'Blood Oath' which I'm sure they'll do a bit of a tour for (I hope).

[Crabby]

It ws a pretty good setlist,they didn't play "Follow The Hollow" at some of the other shows,so it was great we got to hear it live.

And what about that dude who was desperate to hear TCM.

[NiMMERS]

Hehehehehe. THat dude was stoked to actually hear it.

I dunno if you ever heard some dude yelling out 'Slayer'.....I reckon it was the frontman from local Newy band, Neglected Faith.

[Crabby]

I'm guessing he's a huge Slayer fan? I must find that info on their upcoming boxset.

Anyway,next on my hitlist are-

Anthrax- We've Come For You All.
Devin Townsend-Terria.
Dungeon- A Rise To Power.
Soilwork- Figure Number Five.

[NiMMERS]

My hitlist:

Zyklon - Aeon
Cryptopsy live album

[Crabby]

And to think,we're still waiting for Opeth tour dates.

And BTW,do you join that Devy list you and Monks are on through the HevyDevy site? Cool stuff.

[NiMMERS]

I'm not on the list.

[Crabby]

Where do you get all your cool Devy-related stuff then? Through HevyDevy?

And Maiden sing-a-long at Soilwork=cool.

[Crabby]

Here's something I thought was interesting-

"Well I guess that everyone is more than familiar with Slayer guitarist, Kerry King’s desire to speak his mind.

From an article in Terrorizer Magazine, where King was asked to listen to a series of tracks and give his opinion on them.

Metallica ‘St. Anger’.

Kerry King: (2 seconds in) "Ugh! I know what that is! You can tell right away by the shitty mix. I made myself listen to this album twice, just to make sure I hated it as much as I hate it.

"I mean, what is that?,” says King of the snare sound. “Sounds like he's hitting a Pepsi can or something when it should be a snare sound. I like that intro riff, it could be heavy if it was mixed, this would sound awesome. I'm not sure what they were going for in the mix. For me, it's just the mix.

On the album being the supposed "return to form" that most of the rock press are heralding it as: "Yeah, I read that, and I was like, 'What record were they listening to?' I bet it sounds pretty decent live, and those songs are alright, but there's no reason for those songs to be seven minutes long, let along eight or nine. It's like they have one of the better guitar players on the planet, and they're not letting him play lead. It's kinda like putting cuffs on him. I personally can't understand it. I think the lyrics could have gone further than fuckin' rehab. James needs to have a fuckin' shot and get over it.

"The whole thing about this album that really bugged me is like, 'What was up with the last record ('Load'/'Re-Load')? I thought that's what you liked?' And now they think they're heavy again? To me, I've lived this all my life, day in, day out. I might be Kerry King the homeboy for some of the time, but I'm always Slayer. Metallica weren't Metallica for 10 years. I think when you don't live it, and try to jump back into it… It just doesn't work out."

Anthrax ‘We've Come For You All’.

Kerry King: "Yeah, I got it. It's generic. I like John Bush's singing. I saw 'em the other day and it looks like they're trying to put it back together. I hope they can, but I think they've shot themselves in the foot too many times, and it's hard to take people seriously when they've done so many goofs. Those pentagrams bug me. You don't just take the pentagram up 20 years into your career. It's like, 'Pentagrams are cool,' so they have them. Fans aren't stupid any more, 'cause I am a fan. I know these guys, but I'm a fan of the music. Shit like that sticks out to me. 'These guys never had pentagrams before, what's up with that?' It's like they didn't think it out completely. It'd be like us using clocks with skulls for our stage show or something."

The Haunted ‘Three Times’.

Kerry King: "[hums the riff immediately] The best album The Haunted ever put out! I love The Haunted! Though I don't think they've made a record as good as the first one. Not saying the second and third ones suck, but I still play this first CD. I got it in my hotel room right now. I know my shit. I love that record. We've only played festivals with The Haunted, never been on a tour together. That'd be something interesting for the fans to see… A good band."

In the same article, King was asked about the progress of the songwriting sessions for Slayer’s new studio album, the group's first since the return of drummer Dave Lombardo.

"We're already working on new stuff," Kerry said. "We don't have any that we're playing. We've got about five almost finished, and four or five more that we haven't even worked on yet. It takes Dave awhile to learn the new stuff.

When asked how Dave is taking to the new songs that he didn't play on record, King said, "It's awesome. He knows the songs, but we don't put the handcuffs on and make him play like fuckin' Paul (ex drummer). Paul was a lot more technical and big-time pay attention to detail, whereas Dave is a loose cannon. You never know how it's gonna end up, but it always comes out right."

[Crabby]

I'm guessing he's a huge Slayer fan? I must find that info on their upcoming boxset.

Anyway,next on my hitlist are-

Anthrax- We've Come For You All.
Devin Townsend-Terria.
Dungeon- A Rise To Power.
Soilwork- Figure Number Five.

Well,I ordered both Terria and FNF today,so I look forward to receiving those.

Which Zimmers Hole album should I check out,Mickey?

[NiMMERS]

Legion of Flames! HuahahahHuahuhuaaaaaaaa!

You'll get the stupid drawn out laugh reference when you hear it.

Cryptopsy's new live album is very solid! Flo Mounier=Gene Hoglan>everybody

Plus Nile's 'In Their Darkened Shrines'. In one word...Epic.

[SideburnZ]

The Slayer dude is pretty right, new Metallica = gay, Anthrax = good, The Haunted = awesome.

Nimmers, aint Shrines immense? :drool:

[Deathcow]

I've been listening to Sepultura, Soulfly and Slayer lately.

And Anthrax.

:yes:

[Nemesis]

Plus Nile's 'In Their Darkened Shrines'. In one word...Epic.

Definitely. A nice progression from the Black Seeds of Vengeance album.

[Crabby]

I'm going to add Nevermore's "Enemies Of Reality" to my hitlist,even if you guys assure me the production job kinda sucks.

[NiMMERS]

Definitely. A nice progression from the Black Seeds of Vengeance album.



Nimmers, aint Shrines immense? :drool:

The album is great. Immense, epic, grand...whatever adjective you want to use, it all fits. The way death metal should be made in the new millenium.


I've been listening to Sepultura, Soulfly and Slayer lately.

And Anthrax.

:yes:

I hope you havnt been neglecting latter day Sepultura.....:)

Hey Brendan, get Enemies of Reality....everybody is right by saying the production sucks cos it does. But the music is top notch. Make sure you get the black jewell case with the bonus DVD.

[Nemesis]

Another thing that's awesome about Nile is how they explain how the songs and lyrics reflect ancient Egyptian history. It's pretty interesting.

[NiMMERS]

Yeah I dig that part of Nile too.

When ancient history lessons and death metal combine....I give you Nile!

[Crabby]

I actually picked up the new Nevermore today.I quite like it,though I will agree with the views on the production job.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

DREAM THEATER To Release 'Train Of Thought' In November - Sep. 12, 2003

DREAM THEATER have set "Train Of Thought" as the title for their new album, tentatively due on November 11 through Elektra Records.

The complete track listing for the CD is as follows:

01. As I Am
02. This Dying Soul
03. Endless Sacrifice
04. Honor Thy Father
05. Vacant
06. Stream Of Consciousness
07. In The Name Of God

"Train Of Thought" was produced by John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy and engineered by Doug Oberkircher. It was mixed by Kevin Shirley, who has previously worked with IRON MAIDEN, LED ZEPPELIN and JOURNEY, among others.

Hopefully it doesn't contain as much filler as the last DT album.

[QuietStorm]

That is the best news I have heard in a while. The tracklisting looks good but an album was never a classic off of song names. Hopefully LaBrie does well with the vocals because everything else should be great.

[fear is the mindkiller]

Hey, Six Degrees wasn't so bad. Yea the second CD wasn't all that great except for a few spots but the first CD more than made up for it I think.

[SideburnZ]

That is the best news I have heard in a while. The tracklisting looks good but an album was never a classic off of song names. Hopefully LaBrie does well with the vocals because everything else should be great.


They should hire Cannibuss to do the vocals!!!1

[QuietStorm]

Or Cristina Scabbia!!!1

[Simon]

Keep it clean, boyzzz...

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Keep it clean, boyzzz...

It is clean.

Can't you tell the difference between banter and abuse?

Next time stay out of this thread, we've moderated ourselves since it began.

[SideburnZ]

Or Cristina Scabbia!!!1

Well she is a great singer, where as Cannibus just talks fast.

[Simon]

It is clean.

Can't you tell the difference between banter and abuse?

Next time stay out of this thread, we've moderated ourselves since it began.Clean in the sense that it's not abusive, yes. Clean in the sense that it's on-topic, no. All I ask is that we stay on-topic :)

[SideburnZ]

The thread has been fine for 69 pages, relax. Me poking fun at Cannibus for 2 posts isn't gonna ruin the boards.

[Simon]

Not as a one-off, but you created a thread that has already been closed purely to piss people off, now you're doing it in here as well...it's not necessary.

I'd appreciate it if any further debate is taken to PM.

[SideburnZ]

Simon, I'd appreciate it if you'd stick to discussing metal in this metal thread. Thanx.

So have you heard Behemoths Zos Kia Lotus? It's awesome.

[Simon]

I prefer Satanica, cos Decade Of Therion rules.

[SideburnZ]

What did you like about it?

Also, how do you feel about Deicide?

[Simon]

Deicide = sux...try-hard bands that rely on shock value are lame. They're no real different to Anal Cunt, but at least Anal Cunt have funny song titles...there isn't much originality about 'Kill The Christians' etc.

[Nemesis]

Also, how do you feel about Deicide?

Serpents of the Light :headbang:

Hey Burnzy, if you're familiar with Deicide, have you heard of Vital Remains? Glen Benton sings in that group, too.

[SideburnZ]

I only heard one Deicide album, not a huge fan.

[Nemesis]

Deicide = sux...try-hard bands that rely on shock value are lame. They're no real different to Anal Cunt, but at least Anal Cunt have funny song titles...there isn't much originality about 'Kill The Christians' etc.

Dude, they're a lot different than Anal Cunt. They can form a coherent song. Glen Benton's anti-christian rants can be tiresome, but he's a moron (even though he does have an awesome voice), and it doesn't take away from the music.

[Simon]

I don't mean they're the same as Anal Cunt in terms of sound, but in terms of having relatively little actual talent and relying almost entirely on the titles of their songs to get any acknowledgement (I was going to say the 'lyrics', but they're borderline indecipherable)...plus Anal Cunt did that song 'The Gayest Guy On Earth' which rules.

Perhaps a more fitting comparison is Skrewdriver...just dull, senseless drivel about a shocking subject that relies entirely on the hysteria surrounding the titles. Stupid.

[SideburnZ]

I've never heard hysteria over Skrewdriver or Deicide.


Oops, just to keep from getting banned = metal.

There, just being safe.

[Simon]

Seeing as we're having a discussion over metal bands, that wasn't really necessary. But you keep trying.

I generally stay away from the Death Metal net scene, but I've heard a lot of stuff about Skrewdriver, none of it related to the quality of their music. Deicide is somewhat similar, although people usually accept that the guy has a decent voice.

[Nemesis]

I don't mean they're the same as Anal Cunt in terms of sound, but in terms of having relatively little actual talent and relying almost entirely on the titles of their songs to get any acknowledgement (I was going to say the 'lyrics', but they're borderline indecipherable)...plus Anal Cunt did that song 'The Gayest Guy On Earth' which rules.



Actually, his voice is one of the easiest in death metal to understand on the Serpents of the Light album. You can understand every word.

But to say they have no talent is absurd. They did a lot for death metal with their earlier albums. And to even be in a mediocre death metal band, in terms of talent (for a drummer or guitarist, at least) isn't easy. It's one of the most physically demanding forms of music.

I doubted Glen Benton's sincerity on what he talks about, but then I remembered that this is the same guy that branded an inverted cross into his forehead. But that's what makes him great. He really means what he says, and that makes him look like a huge tool. His threatening on-air phone calls to radio-evangelist Bob Larson are comedic gold.

[Simon]

Like I said, I'm not big on death metal and I had enough trouble understanding Corey Taylor's lyrics on the first Slipknot album, so Deicide goes way over my head :D

I agree that the vocalist has a good voice though, but the rest just don't do it for me. Certainly I agree that death metal drummers are just insanely good, but relative to other drummers of the genre, the Deicide drummer isn't great.

[QuietStorm]

BurnZ, I have been getting a lot more into Lacuna Coil the last few days. To the extent that I downloaded all of their albums. Cristina Scabbia does have a very beautiful voice and is definitely a hottie. I think I am going to make her my wallpaper.

[Nemesis]

Yeah, that's pretty true about Deicide's drummer. The guy from Dying Fetus blows him out of the water. Hell, they're a better band overall.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Like I said, I'm not big on death metal and I had enough trouble understanding Corey Taylor's lyrics on the first Slipknot album, so Deicide goes way over my head :D

Slipknot isn't really hard to understand. It's mostly attention seeking teenager shit. Seriously I'm not generalising, it's not too technical.


Being within reasonable limits; not excessive or extreme

So we can be heavy handed or light on. Which isn't moderating at all.

Basically we don't need you here spouting your shit about staying on topic. For one it's hypocritical. Two this thread is almost elitist and it'll turn to almost anything. There's no reason to really bitch in this thread because everyone here is joking if anything abusive is said.

Again off topic no need to continue this so if you want PM me.

As for music. Found a copy of Hellbilly Delux in the bedroom of one of the guys around here so I pinched it. Give it a listen later. Still a free cd is a good cd.

[Nemesis]

Hey, I've got an idea. We should post some sites we go to, just so we can check some new stuff out. Reviews, forums, shops, official sites, whatever.

Here's mine:

White Trash Devil (www.whitetrashdevil.com) - They stopped doing news, the reviews are hit-and-miss (depending on who's reviewing what), but the forums are pretty cool. Official forums for Entombed, Dark Funeral, The Project Hate, and some other bands, too.

The Grimoire (www.thegrimoire.com) - "A Death Metal magazine for assholes...written by assholes." Pretty much. Some funny interviews, and they sell a few CDs.

The End Records (www.theendrecords.com) and Red Stream (www.redstream.org) - Good places to buy CDs.

Uranium Music (www.uraniummusic.com) - Covers a lot of stuff. Good news site. They have a lot of other features, too.

[SideburnZ]

BurnZ, I have been getting a lot more into Lacuna Coil the last few days. To the extent that I downloaded all of their albums. Cristina Scabbia does have a very beautiful voice and is definitely a hottie. I think I am going to make her my wallpaper.

QuietStorm, I give a shit.

No, really, I do.

Metal metal metal, on topic with metal.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/infernalcombustion/
Infernal Combustion: Silly fake news site.

http://www.metal-sludge.com/

Metal Sludge, I assume you all know what that is.

Err then I have about 6 forums which I post on which include UltimateMetal.com, Warmachineonline.com, UltimateMegadeth.com, Edguy.net

And just band homepages. I think thats it.

Oh and I used to go to http://firewater.eplanet.hu/ for videos. Until I got all the ones I wanted
=> Metal => Tovább (next)

[SideburnZ]

The only music sites I know are The End, which Nem posted and www.The7thhouse.com, a great Danzig site.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Oh yeah, and Happy Birthday Grimario. You'll wander in here eventually. It was either here or the AFL thread. Here seems good enough.

[Crabby]

Like I said, I'm not big on death metal and I had enough trouble understanding Corey Taylor's lyrics on the first Slipknot album, so Deicide goes way over my head :D
.

Slipknot are not death metal.They are nu metal played fast basically.

I find myself getting more and more into "Enemies Of Reality".

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Almost Finished Wildest Dreams video.

Should be done in 3 hours. Damn slow transfer rate! 80MB of 92MB.

Yesterday I had upto the piece where they're about to drive into Eddie's mouth.

Crabby you suck you you don't have A-WCFYA.

[Simon]

Slipknot are not death metal.They are nu metal played fast basically.
:confused: I never said they were, I just said that at first I found his voice difficult to understand.

I actually liked that first album though. I find, though, that a lot of people started hating on them once they got big, don't know if that pertains to here but a lot of my metaller friends liked Slipknot bigtime for months and then started suddenly saying they were shit once Wait And Bleed was released.

[Nemesis]

I bought the debut the day it came out :$

[Crabby]

DREAM THEATER To Release 'Train Of Thought' In November - Sep. 12, 2003

DREAM THEATER have set "Train Of Thought" as the title for their new album, tentatively due on November 11 through Elektra Records.

The complete track listing for the CD is as follows:

01. As I Am
02. This Dying Soul
03. Endless Sacrifice
04. Honor Thy Father
05. Vacant
06. Stream Of Consciousness
07. In The Name Of God

"Train Of Thought" was produced by John Petrucci and Mike Portnoy and engineered by Doug Oberkircher. It was mixed by Kevin Shirley, who has previously worked with IRON MAIDEN, LED ZEPPELIN and JOURNEY, among others.

Hopefully it doesn't contain as much filler as the last DT album.

That sounds damn good,but am I the only one who reckons some of those song titles sound like something Creed would utilise? Oh well,it should rule.Bring em' here for a tour as well anyway.