Metal Discussion Thread

[Crabby]

Is Soilwork almost sold out,Nimmers? I think there's still a pretty good amount of tickets left.

Heard some of the new Queensryche on FMR last night,it sounded pretty cool,though I agree with Haugy when he said he wished it was a little rockier.They also played some of the new Nevermore,I must say that sounds damn impressive,I'll be looking to pick up that album.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

The new Ryche sounds like it's from Hear In The Now Frontier. Which isn't a good thing. Better if it was from Rage/Mindcrime/Empire.

The question with the new Nevermore is that: Is it from before or after they decided to remaster the entire cd. If it was Enemies Of Reality. The title track then it would be before the remaster and I'd heard that track about 4 weeks ago. However Warrel and Co decided the album was too dirty and the production wasn't upto scratch like Dead Heart so they've redone the whole album.

Expected Release Date 27th July.

[Crabby]

Nimmers,I found this on the Strapping Young Lad website-

"SYL are planning the Australian and Japanese tour schedule
Check the tour section for dates, reviews and galleries as we get them!"

So that's fucking awesome news.October looks to be when it will happen.

[NiMMERS]

I've no idea about Soilwork. I gotta work out how I'm gonna get tickets.

Oh yes. SYL tour. Things keep getting better.

[GameOver!]

Anyone get Type O Negatives new album?

I want it it. :(You think think?? Of f'n course I got it. :rolleyes:

[Crabby]

I've no idea about Soilwork. I gotta work out how I'm gonna get tickets.

Oh yes. SYL tour. Things keep getting better.

I think you can get them over the 'Net or by phone from the Metro,or by phone from the Gaelic Club.It'll be one of the gigs of the year.

[NiMMERS]

Sweet. I shall try to do so.

I just got 'You Come Before You' by Poison The Well. They're amazing. They've got kind of like a super heavy Deftones vibe with more of a shade of experimentality. I think you'd really like them Crabby.

[SideburnZ]

You think think?? Of f'n course I got it. :rolleyes:

Oh heavens! BLACK heavens! What evereth was I thinking! :drevil: A fool I have shown myself to be! :beer:? :o :o :o
I wanna suck off KM
:beer: I shall pick it up soon as well! :beer:

[SideburnZ]

I picked up Type O Negatives Life Is Killing Me and ICed Earths Tribute to the Gods today.

Wooo.

[GameOver!]

I knew you would. After all... well, you know. :beer:

[SideburnZ]

Hey, that didnt make sense.

I even highlighted it to see if you had your secret black text to help it make sense.

:(

[Crabby]

Halford is back in Judas Priest.Awesome news.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Sounds like another Buce-Maiden kind of thing

Since I know you want to know Crabby, my Uni results for this semester were 54, 65, 57 38. 3/4 just as I said I'd do.

[NiMMERS]

Oh Yes.

Good News = New SYL EP (4 new songs and 4 covers), Devy book, Devy metal puppet show and new DTB in the works.

Plus...SYL tour at the end of the year.

Plus it's great that Halford is back in JP as well. It shall be interesting to hear their new stuff.

Does anyone have the Dimmu Borgir dvd? I reckon it goes close to being the best metal dvd.

[Nemesis]

I'll probably pick it up sooner or later, along with CoF's DVD. Only one I have right now is the Pantera 3 Vulgar Videos From Hell. :\

[Crabby]

Devy said the other day that they're leaving for the tour at then end of October,so that looks like when the SYL Aussie tour will happen.Cool stuff.

[NiMMERS]

Cool. Hopefully my Soilwork ticket has been purchased *crosses fingers*.

[Crabby]

I'll have to get my Soilwork ticket soon.Are they nearly sold out?

[Crabby]

Some info on Iron Maiden's upcoming new album-

"The track by track assessment of Iron Maiden's forthcoming album 'Dance Of Death'.

‘Wildest Dreams’
Previewed on the recent 'Give Me Ed... Til I'm Dead' tour, this is a dynamic rocker which kicks off the album with a bang. Judging from the number of people in the European audiences who could sing the chorus after only one hearing, it's bound to become a live favourite.

’Paschendale’
The second song on the album inspired by a historic battle, this time one from the First World War, after a sorrowful opening featuring a needle sharp guitar figure, the band burst in with an instrumental arrangement that sounds like an artillery barrage. Another memorable epic.

’Rainmaker’
Literally a 'storming' (!) song, 'Rainmaker’ is another racy rocker which keeps up the galloping opening pace. And again, after one airing, the chorus is instantly memorable.

’No More Lies’
The first of the four 7+ minute epics on the album, this is an opus entirely self-penned by Steve Harris, with typically thoughtful lyrics. The low-key opening gives way to a punchy chorus, with Nicko's drums almost Bonham-esque in their intensity, and the '3 Amigos' also shine on the three-part solo.

’Montsegur’
Inspired by an infamous episode in the history of the crusading Knights Templar and powered by thunderous riffs, 'Montsegur's high-flying arrangement mimics the horror and confusion of the historic massacre.

’Dance Of Death’
The centrepiece of the album, 'Dance Of Death' is an eerie tale featuring powerful and graphic lyrics and a guitar-based 'devil's trill' that is taken up by the whole band as they whirl away in a demonic reel. Steve Harris' storytelling at its best and most vivid.

’Gates Of Tomorrow’
An urgent guitar clarion call builds into a relentlessly fast-paced song, featuring a hard-hitting chorus and enigmatic lyrics. And watch out for the sizzling guitar solo in the middle!

’New Frontier’
It's only taken him 20 years, but Nicko enjoys his first writing credit with this tale of the dangers of man trying to play God by subverting nature. That message aside, it's an exuberant up-tempo number that kicks serious ass.

’Face In The Sand’
Another enigmatic, atmospheric song which piles on the drama as it builds in intensity, it features a big swinging melody which is echoed in the central guitar solo. A slow grower, you'll suddenly find yourself humming the chorus when you least expect it!

’The Age Of Innocence’
After the deceptively mellow melodic opening, the mood turns from sorrowful to scathing, as Bruce spits out Steve's lyrics of disillusionment and injustice and similarly, the surprisingly smooth chorus contrasts with the piledriving riffs of the verse.

’Journeyman’
Although it features acoustic guitars and strings, there's nothing soft about this album closer, which showcases Bruce's vocals beautifully. Its truculent chorus with its refusal to compromise echoes the sentiments of 'Wildest Dreams' and rounds the album off beautifully.

Expect Dance Of Death to hit the streets at the start of September 2003."

[NiMMERS]

I'm not even sure if mine has been bought. I'm hoping it has.

Shit. Immortal have split.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

First Track off the new Maiden Album 'Dance Of Death'. Well the first leaked track at least.

Wildest Dreams.
http://www.tomparsons.co.uk/wildestdream.mp3

Seems Maiden have a cleaner production than they ever had before.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

NEWS

Rhythm guitarist Alexander "Aku" Kuoppala has left CHILDREN OF BODOM following the band's appearance at last weekend's Tuska festival in Helsinki, Finland. Alexander's departure was mutually agreed upon by all parties, and the remaining members wish him the best of luck in all of his future endeavors. No appearances are being cancelled or rescheduled as a result of Aku's departure. Click here to see a photo of Alexander and the rest of CHILDREN OF BODOM taken shortly after their Tuska performance.

CHILDREN OF BODOM will announce a replacement for Kuoppala prior to the group's next live appearance, which is scheduled to take place on August 16 in Moscow, Russia.

As previously reported, CHILDREN OF BODOM's latest CD, "Hate Crew Deathroll", will receive its long-overdue U.S. release on September 23 through Century Media Records. The group will team up with DIMMU BORGIR, NEVERMORE and HYPOCRISY for a North American tour in November



Queensryche - Tribe

REVIEW
Artist: Queensryche
Title: Tribe
Label: Sanctuary Records
Length: 41:47
Tracks: 10
Style: Progressive Rock/Hard Rock/Metal
Origin: USA
Similar to: Queensryche (Promised Land era)

Here are five facts concerning Queensryche’s new release – Tribe.
1) It’s not Operation: Mindcrime Part 2.
2) Chris Degarmo contributed to the song-
writing process (five tracks), but he is not back in the band.
3) It’s their best album since Promised Land (this also goes for those who may have enjoyed the last two releases).
4) It must be given a fair listen, and trust me, it will be worth it.
5) With tracks like ‘Falling Behind’, ‘Blood’, ‘Tribe’, ‘The Art of Life’, and ‘Rhythm of Hope’, it is a top ten album of the year, hands down. But, that is your choice after all.

I know many Queensryche fans are fearful of touching Tribe, let alone listening to it. Hear in the Now Frontier and Q2K have disintegrated the hopes of many. Yet, in Tribe, there lies a rhythm of hope…and melody and outright musical integrity.

With Tribe, Queensryche steers in more of a sweeping, atmospheric rock direction, one with multilayered riffs and melodies, lofty acoustic guitar arrangements, and Tate’s expressive and varied vocal range. From alluring and unforgettable choruses to dark, subtle, bass driven grooves, Tribe is extremely moving – tribal in nature for that matter. It conveys the extensive and pure spirit of the desert. This album flows with emotion and energy, but it takes a few listens to seize all that it encompasses. In terms of the Queensryche catalogue, it sounds most similar to Promised Land, at least in style; however, Tribe is not a rehash. Instead, it is a venture into something new and promising, which Queensryche fans must be open to.

After listening to the forty plus minutes of material over and over, I can only find two flaws. Firstly, ‘Doin’ Fine’ is a moderately weak song, and a lacklustre closer. It doesn't share the rest of the album's musically-dramatic tone. It is also fairly monotonous. Luckily, it is short and contains a listenable chorus. Secondly, the album seems a bit too short in length, but why not I guess.

Other than that, Tribe is outstanding. Some of the tracks, mainly the ones mentioned above, are just spectacular. With its intoxicating chorus, Tate’s subdued vocals, and reverie-inducing backbeat, ‘Blood’ may be one of the best Queensryche songs to appear on any album since Operation: Mindcrime, and that’s saying a mouthful. Focusing on spoken verse lines and ingenious guitar melodies, ‘The Art of Life’ is phenomenal and experimental in its own right. Actually, once you’re stuck in between tracks five through nine of Tribe, the repeat button may be your best friend. And, ‘Open’ is another awesome song, one that older Queensryche fans should fine worthy of the band’s name.

Without a doubt, Tribe is consistent. Even the most biased Queensryche fans of the good ol’ days should at least feel okay/decent about it. Yet, for many listeners, the most difficult thing may be giving it a chance. To those who do, good for you. It’s easy to lose yourself in Tribe; I know I’m losing myself in it.


I guess thats all for now.

[Charlotte]

I've been listening to Wildest Dreams pretty much non-stop since I got it yesterday. Quite impressed - the guitars have more depth than in the live version and Adrian's solo is fantastic!

Hopeful for the new Queensryche album too. Shame Chris isn't back full time, maybe for the next album?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Chris assisted in writing 5 tracks on the album so his influence on the music is definitely there.

Oh and Warmachine have hit the studio to record their debut release. With Dave Ellefson as Producer. And I will ask, Crabby do you have the new Anthrax?

Nate what was the Dt/Ryche concert like?

[Crabby]

Oh and Warmachine have hit the studio to record their debut release. With Dave Ellefson as Producer. And I will ask, Crabby do you have the new Anthrax?

Nah,I couldn't find it,I'll probably just order it from somewhere.Picked up Iron Maiden's "Brave New World",though.Which is a pretty cool album.

Got my Soilwork ticket today as well.

[Satan]

Anybody here like?:E Town Concrete
In Flames
Nothingface
Shadows Fall
Eighteen Visions
life of agony?

[Crabby]

I dig In Flames and Shadow's Fall are okay.

You a fan of the mighty Soilwork?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I think most people (most people who know of them) like some if not all In Flames.

[Satan]

oh, well if you havent heard of them, here are some great songs by them...

E Town Concrete- Mandibles
In Flames- Trigger
Nothingface- Ether
Shadows Fall-Destroyer of Senses
Thoughts Without Words
Eighteen Visions- Broke like glass
Life of Agony- This Time

.....

and i was just wondering if anybody knows any other good songs by these artists

[Crabby]

Descend are the other support act for Soilwork in Sydney,if anyone cares.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Hey Satan heard any Children of Bodom?

And as for In Flames' Trigger isn't really close to their best song, sure it's the latest single but there's a fuckload of better songs on earlier releases such as whoracle (godly), Jester Race, Clayman and Colony.

Oh yeah Children of Bodom own the melodic death scene, they have something entirely different going on to the other bands. Just download Needled 24/7 and find it out yourself.


Oh and Burnz, Moonspell. Go and find. Firewalking :headbang:

[Black Eagle]

I'm seeing Pacifier on Friday night, and i'm hoping to see Superheist on Aug 9. They are playing with Alchemist, the Bison and This time tommorow. Anyone heard of any of those three bands?

[Crabby]

Alchemist are quite frankly fucking awesome,probably the best metal band in Australia.No offence to Superheist,but Alchemist will blow them out of the water live.Their latest album,"Austral Alien" is an awesome release.

[Black Eagle]

Brilliant. I'll download a few songs by them. Havn't heard of the others STD?

[Crabby]

Nah.I'm surprised Alchemist are playing with Superheist,though,'cause they don't sound anything like them and are loads heavier.Their sound is pretty diverse but you should dig em' live.Andrew Haug is a massive fan of the band and with good reason.They can compete with a lot of the best international metal acts.

Anyone picked up the new Superjoint Ritual album yet?

I also found this on Blabbermouth-

"Ripper Owens speaks

John Petkovic of the Cleveland Plain Dealer spoke to ousted Judas Priest frontman Tim ‘Ripper’ Owens about the band’s decision to reunite with acclaimed vocalist Rob Halford.

"There had been talk of Halford rejoining for a while," Owens said. "There had been so many big-money offers for them to reunite.

"I knew the reunion with Halford was going to happen," he continued. "I knew this wouldn't last. Rob is the original singer, and so he should also be the one there at the end."

Judas Priest released two albums with Owens as vocalist, 1997’s ‘Jugulator’ and 2001’s ‘Demolition’. Both received lukewarm reactions and ‘Jugluator’ cracked the 100,000 sales mark, while ‘Demolition’ only made it to 50,000.

"When I joined, they had been broken up for about five years," he says. "The band had lost a lot of momentum, and it was hard to make up for lost time."

"Some people were disappointed, but they can't blame me," said Owens. "My vocals are right on. I just sang the songs they gave me."

According to Owens, he never felt like a full-fledged member.

"I had no control over decisions," he said. "At the same time, I couldn't pursue other projects because I was the lead singer in Judas Priest. It was frustrating, especially when we stopped touring this year."

When speculation started that Halford would rejoin, Owens even contemplated quitting.

"But I couldn't, " he said. "I figured something would happen. This was the best solution, for them and me."

Owens says he's already received offers from five bands, and he's currently pursuing a solo career and a collaboration with a musician he would not disclose.

And like the film ‘Rockstar’ that more or less depicted this course of events taking place, Owens said, "This time it's for beer, fun and pocket change," the singer said. "Next time, I'm going to do my own stuff."

Let’s hope it doesn’t involve acoustic guitars and brown woolly jumpers."

[Black Eagle]

Been listening to these bands:

Haste
Poison the Well - Nimmers, well done son
Machine Head
Refused

Some great music there.

[Satan]

Machine Head-"The Blood The Sweat The Tears"....yes.....

[Deathcow]

Machine Head-"The Blood The Sweat The Tears"....yes.....

I must say, that is the best username ever. That is all.

[Crabby]

Been listening to these bands:

Haste
Poison the Well - Nimmers, well done son
Machine Head
Refused

Some great music there.

Refused- "The Shape Of Punk To Come" is a classic album.

Machine Head- "Burn My Eyes" is an awesome thrash metal album,and they're a pretty good live band."The Blood,The Sweat,The Tears" is a pretty average song of theirs IMO.

[Nemesis]

I must say, that is the best username ever. That is all.

:yesyes:

[Satan]

yes...i know...but if i could be serious for a minute i have to ask a question....anybody in here packing there bags for Ozzfest this year?....cause i know one thing....Satan is definetly going to be there..

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Satan there's no chance for half of us going to Ozzfest since Crabby, Black Eagle, Nimmers and myself are Australian. Plus I believe SideBurnZ, GameOver, Nemesis prefer concerts which aren't full of crappy acts.

The best concert going across the US at the moment is Dream Theater/Queensryche. And from what I've heard Ryche play their set. Dt play their set, They play one Ryche and one DT song together and then a cover song. With everyone on the stage. :( I want.

[Black Eagle]

Ozzfest still have a few noticeable bands, Killswitch being one of my preferred ones, also Chevelle.

[NiMMERS]

Descend? I hope you mean Daysend. For me, they're the greatest aussie metal band going round. Great songs.

Yeah how good is Poison The Well? They're just one of those bands I just randomly picked up without even really hearing anything by them. They are quite superb.

[Monkey]

I think most people (most people who know of them) like some if not all In Flames.

Actually, I KNOW of In Flames and the reputation that goes with them, yet I'm quite disgusted in myself to admit that I have never actually listened to one of their albums.

Even with me being good buddies with Nimmers....... I'm not lying when I say it disgusts me either
:$

And as for Soilwork tix, hopefully Nimmers and I shall have ours this week, even if I can just get The Gaelic Club to hold them there for me till we can get down to pick em up......

Fingers crossed... :headbang:

[Crabby]

Descend? I hope you mean Daysend. For me, they're the greatest aussie metal band going round. Great songs.
.

I was told it was Descend.I've heard some of Daysend's stuff,I'm pretty certain it's a different band.

Nimmers and Monkey,we'll have to meet up for a beer at Soilwork and cheer on the mighty 'Bok.You can book tickets from the Metro box office,and you just have to pick them up before midday the day before the show.That's what I'm doing anyway.

[Crabby]

cause i know one thing....Satan is definetly going to be there..

Will he finally be announcing that Ozzy is indeed his son?

[NiMMERS]

I was told it was Descend.I've heard some of Daysend's stuff,I'm pretty certain it's a different band.

Nimmers and Monkey,we'll have to meet up for a beer at Soilwork and cheer on the mighty 'Bok.You can book tickets from the Metro box office,and you just have to pick them up before midday the day before the show.That's what I'm doing anyway.

For sure, Crabby. Oh yeah we'll be cheering on the 'Bok. They go off!!!!!!!!!

Don't worry Monks I'll have you onto the In Flames soon enough.

[Satan]

Will he finally be announcing that Ozzy is indeed his son?

:flamed: :evilgrin:

[Crabby]

Picked up Sepultura's "Revolutusongs" EP off EBay,and pretty cheap as well.I look forward to receiving it anyway.

[Black Eagle]

Is it worth getting cd/dvd off Ebay? I figured that once you pay for shipping and postage, then it wouldn't work out to be that much difference?

[Crabby]

Depends on the item, but you can manage to buy some stuff very cheaply and often postage isn't that expensive (particularly within Australia).As long as you're buying from a reputable seller it's cool.It's also damn good for getting CD's like the brand new Seps EP which you can't buy in Australia,that's the main reason I use it.

[Black Eagle]

How do you pay for the item? Credit Card, or money order? How do you know if it's a reputable seller?

I've had a look at the DVD's, but there isn't much there, that's not in the shops. I was hoping to pick up a few 'rare' music DVD, but i couldn't find any.

[Crabby]

You need a credit card to register,though that's mostly so that one person can't register multiple usernames easily.Payments are usually made by direct deposit,money orders and sometimes PayPal.Items are either new or used,though that's usually mentioned in the item description.I use it occassionally,never had a problem and it's easy once you know what you're doing.

To check a seller's history,on the item page the seller's EBay ID will always be there,with a number in brackets next to it.Click on that to read the feedback (positive/negative) that people have left from past transactions wit that buyer.

[WizoOzz]

Satan there's no chance for half of us going to Ozzfest since Crabby, Black Eagle, Nimmers and myself are Australian. Plus I believe SideBurnZ, GameOver, Nemesis prefer concerts which aren't full of crappy acts.

:wave:

You missed one of the Americans who wouldn't go...

I've missed the last two years...well, I wouldn't necessarily say missed. But you get the point.

Anywho, my opinion on the "fest" for the past few years is, it's just a way to make more cash. They've lost the real metal-edge that they had the first few years that the 'fest existed, and now it's just to get the teens in there and get 'em to buy all the crap they can. Kinda lost the real meaning...it's become the new Lollapalooza.

But, then again, after you've seen Opeth live...all else fails in comparison.

And in a more Off-Old-Topics direction. New Superjoint Ritual owns. And I got my first Soilwork album today. Who wants to touch me?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I forget you now since you don't post enough, so I blame you :P :D

Which Soilwork Album? NBC? FIF? CM? PP? Come on Wizz don't leave us hanging.

[NiMMERS]

:wave:
And in a more Off-Old-Topics direction. New Superjoint Ritual owns. And I got my first Soilwork album today. Who wants to touch me?

New Superjoint eh? A trip to JB is on the cards methinks.

Hopefull...HOPEFULLY my Soilwork ticket was purchased today.

*EDIT*
Fuck yes. Soilwork here I come.

Soilwork and Frankenbok. Doesnt get much better than that.

[Crabby]

I found this on Metalshop,thought it was interesting anyway-

"In a recent interview former (?) Pantera singer Phil Anselmo said of his former band mates’ new band, “Without me, it'll be real interesting to hear what they come up with."

Anselmo doesn't expect his Pantera bandmates to wait around on him before pursuing other projects of their own.

"They're doing it [already]," Anselmo said, referring to Darrel and Vinnie Paul's new project, provisionally called New Found Power. "They're gonna name it something else, but they're doing it, and best of luck to them. I have no bad feelings toward those guys at all."

Asked if he thinks the other guys harbor any resentment toward him, Anselmo replied, "Sure. Absolutely. They won't talk to me. I speak to Vinnie maybe once every blue moon. But I think Dimebag and I have had a falling out that's going to be a little tough to reconcile. I'm not even sure what the hell it's about."

When questioned if the disagreement between him and Dimebag is of a musical or personal nature, Philip said, "Both. He's got a lot of resentment in his heart, and I don't really know where it's coming from. I'm not sure he's mad at me at all, you know? He's got a lot of personal issues in his life that he has to face, and once he does, I really, truly hope he becomes a better person — the beautiful person that I came to know and love."

With regards to whether doing another Pantera record is where his head is at right now, Anselmo said, "No, it's not. It's not the right time. One thing you've gotta understand is, with Pantera I've ‘always’ been the one to question things. I've always been the one to say, 'Are you sure you wanna do this?' 'Are you sure this is right?' And they listen to me, they hear me out. And by no means am I saying that I'm the brains behind the entire thing. But I am saying that when it comes to music, due to my knowledge and very natural connection to what the underground scene is, I had to enlighten them several times over. Without me, it'll be ‘real’ interesting to hear what they come up with."

”And sure, it's gonna sound like Pantera in a bunch of spots musically. And I'm also sure they've got a singer who — if it's Dimebag Darrell's dream — is gonna be a cross between Philip Anselmo and a guy who can hit, like, Rob Halford-style extreme high notes and shit. That's just a wild guess. But as for me being interested in it, what I'm really interested in is Superjoint Ritual. That's what interests me right now."

[NiMMERS]

There will be more Pantera to come. It'll have a massive build up.

When Phil needs another lethal dose of american currency he will cash in on Pantera coming out of hibernation. I hope they don't continue where they left off, cos I really didnt feel 'Reinventing The Steel' at all.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

But then again look at Far Beyond Driven. It's a mess and then they come out with Trendkill which is awesome and just what was needed at the time.

I feel they'll be completely different as with the metal scene is completely different. Thrash like Reinventing The Steel seems to have passed and harsher things seem to be back in the underground. Heavy pieces with power metal type influences while still being kinda melodic. It's a good time.

[WizoOzz]

Reinventing the Steel is what got me into Pantera. Before that album, I swore that I'd never listen to them...

...and now I'll say that they're one of the first bands that showed me that what I was swearing off was all music in general. They showed me that my narrow mind was fucking idiotic. They're not the sole reason that I opened up, but they definitely play a solid role in that.

That's one reason why I think it sucks that they "broke up," if you even want to refer to it that way. From the way it looks in that article, it's typical singer-versus-guitarist squabbles that have ultimately killed one of the most influential bands of the last decade or so. Well, in another 25-30 years, when it's time for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to come a-callin', we'll see if they have that Black Sabbath-esque reunion.

And on a non-Pantera note: Who got the Danzig DVD? I did, and it's simply kick-freakin'-ass.

[NiMMERS]

Dave, 'Far Beyond Driven' is my favourite Pantera release :)

I think they'll be together sooner than a Black Sabbath srt of time period. But still quite a long time.

[Monkey]

Just as long as the not like fucking KISS and keep doing their Final tour every two years just because they need some money...... :rofl:

[Crabby]

The thing with Pantera is there isn't really anywhere for them to go musically except continue to step back.TGST was pretty much as heavy and extreme as they could get without losing their trademark killer groove,so it was probably inevitable that RTS would sound re-hashed in many ways,and I get the feeling the next album will be more of the same.

FBD is a great album IMO,sure,it approaches excessive levels of guitar wankery sometimes but most of the tracks just kick arse.

As for my favourite Pantera album,it's hard to go past "Vulgar Display Of Power". And they're a killer live band.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

i FIXED MY TAGGING.

And now i'll tal;k./.

as i alwyx do i fix my music player thingy so i play gmal, def leppard. posion, motley. You know thie shit. it's so mc h better with glam.

YEAH!

igonire this if you wizsh insce in syayibg suxe to side.

iyd asmazint i get the taging correct.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I fixed my taggint again.,

Yeah!

I always start a durnk [post like that.

I dont know why byt i do, always posting lujemtbat . but i do.

Only about 20, is there anyone else here who likes listening to shitnlike dokken, motley and shit which i wrote before when they're totally fuck off their head?

M I THE ONLYONE?


H,mm, fozzy, rinding on the wind. i can strill name songs as uim totally off my head/ but as it said im too arded too care anyway,.

hmm blackoutr.

ramndom.

yeah

first time i've been drunk online. but then agau i shoukdnt have such an easy passoiwrd as []/ but then its easy to rype A IM A LAZY BASTARD.

damn caps.

So i downloaded thenkammelot album besides 2 tracks, i gess ui'll speka more when im abkle to type proerply. But track 5, whatever it'salled, paradise something is cool. yeah. i heard it before ui went out.

cool heavy, deep, deamn cool.

download it whatever it is.

Cracb, forgive me because my typing is wshit.

a;lso i got the strat album
nate knows this.

i pissed on his friend/ he
s a cock hgead.

fucknut.

yeah why dont normal people get taste?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I appoligise for whatefver i saiy.

anywhrere.

[Crabby]

The announcement I've been waiting a few months for-

2003 Australian IPECAC GEEK SHOW TOUR
featuring: Tomahawk, Melvins & Fantômas
DECEMBER
Fri 5th - Metropolis - Perth
Sun 7th - Heaven - Adelaide
Wed 10th - Palace - Melbourne
Thu 11th - Palace - Melbourne
Fri 12th - Hordern Pavilion - Sydney
Sat 13th - Arena - Brisbane

The shows will open with Fantomas,then The Melvins,with Tomahawk the headlining band.

Plus,they are looking to add a special guest to that already killer line-up (The Mark of Cain maybe?)

[Crabby]

Ipecac have also confirmed the QOTSA/Mondo Generator/Distillers tour for January.

And the next Fantomas album will be called "Delirium Cordia",and will be out in October anyway.

[SideburnZ]

Any of you like Naglfar?

I got a shitload of their songs today. Never really heard of them till then.

[NiMMERS]

Never heard of them.

Explain.

[Black Eagle]

I fixed my taggint again.,

Yeah!

I always start a durnk [post like that.

I dont know why byt i do, always posting lujemtbat . but i do.

Only about 20, is there anyone else here who likes listening to shitnlike dokken, motley and shit which i wrote before when they're totally fuck off their head?

M I THE ONLYONE?


H,mm, fozzy, rinding on the wind. i can strill name songs as uim totally off my head/ but as it said im too arded too care anyway,.

hmm blackoutr.

ramndom.

yeah

first time i've been drunk online. but then agau i shoukdnt have such an easy passoiwrd as []/ but then its easy to rype A IM A LAZY BASTARD.

damn caps.

So i downloaded thenkammelot album besides 2 tracks, i gess ui'll speka more when im abkle to type proerply. But track 5, whatever it'salled, paradise something is cool. yeah. i heard it before ui went out.

cool heavy, deep, deamn cool.

download it whatever it is.

Cracb, forgive me because my typing is wshit.

a;lso i got the strat album
nate knows this.

i pissed on his friend/ he
s a cock hgead.

fucknut.

yeah why dont normal people get taste?

Just wanted to quote this, to show what a messed up child he is.

Anyways, Machine Heads 'Hellalive' is a fucking brilliant album. Favourite track would be 'Davidan' and 'Crashing around you'.

If Mark of Cain are rumoured to tour with Melvins, Tomahawk and Fantomas, i think i may be tempted to go. However, none of my mates know who they are, so i'll have to venture on my own. Still worth it though.

[Crabby]

"LET FREEDOM RING WITH A SHOTGUN BLLLLLLAAAAAAASSSSSSTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!"

The joys of Machine Head when they still kicked arse.

Geeks Tour will be insane.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Does anything which I typed last night make any sense?

I believe i said I listen to glam/hair when I'm drunk. And that I downloaded Kamelot's Epica and track 5 (The Edge of Paradise) is golden.

Strangly I still remembered that Paradise was in the title.

[Crabby]

No worries Dave,it was still an interesting read for the rest of us.

Saw the video for Twisted Sister's cover of "Leader Of The Pack" the other night,which was a pretty interesting and amusing watch.

[SideburnZ]

Naglfar...

Are good.

[NiMMERS]

Downloaded 'I Am Vengeance'. It's nice. But they sound like they're treading old ground.

[SideburnZ]

I just went and got 2 of their albums.

I'll give them good listens tonight.

[Crabby]

BurnZ,you need some Strapping Young Lad/Devin Townsend in your collection.

Nimmers will second me on this.

[Monkey]

Nimmers will second you, and I'll fuckin chime in for a third!

I'm not even gunna be specific about dowloading a song to try, just get anything you fuckin well can dude!

Back to MH....

I personally think that MH have some of THE best intro's to songs that I have ever heard. I'm talking more about "Burn My Eyes" era too.

They were the one band back then that could always reestablish my "faith" in the institution that is metal. They still do in some ways.
When ever I get kinda bored with the newer sounds out there (this was most prevelant around the Limp Bizkit/Korn era), I could always manage to go back to my MH albums and just lay on my bed and let those beautiful Madder/Flynn solos wash over me :D

awww but I'm gettin all mushy.......

New(ish) Soilwork rocks my hairy anus!
Expect a very glowing review on Figure Number Five soonish.....

[Crabby]

You coming to Soilwork as well,Monks?

[SideburnZ]

BurnZ,you need some Strapping Young Lad/Devin Townsend in your collection.

Nimmers will second me on this.

Which albums should I get first?

[Crabby]

Strapping Young Lad- City first,then HAARHT and S.Y.L.

Other Devy projects that are especially worth checking out-

Ocean Machine- Biomech.
Devin Townsend Band- Accelerated Evolution.
Devin Townsend- Physicist,Terria.

[SideburnZ]

Alrighty.

I'll just download them now.

Be back when I finish.

[Monkey]

You coming to Soilwork as well,Monks?

sure am man.....
lookin forward to havin a beer with ya, and lookin forward to listenin to some damn quality metal. Both Australian and otherwise :)

Oh and burnZ, try other Devy related stuff like Punky Bruster. Funny as!

[SideburnZ]

I got City and SYL.

Very cool stuff. :yes:

I love "Oh My Fucking God".

[Monkey]

dont forget Heavy As A Really Heavy Thing dude.......

cant go past anything thats recorded live in Australia :D

[Nemesis]

cant go past anything thats recorded live in Australia :D

No Sleep Til Bedtime was recorded live there...I own it. :cool:

Far Beyond Metal is a fucking awesome song.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Up the Irons!


The following item was published it today's edition of The New York Post:

"Just because heavy metal masters IRON MAIDEN are old and gray doesn't mean they can't create some old-school rock 'n' roll mayhem. The long-maned metallers made headlines last week when drummer Michael 'Nicko' McBrain allegedly got mad at a Jones Beach parking attendant and struck him with his Jaguar. And after their sold-out show with RONNIE JAMES DIO and MOTÖRHEAD at the Garden Wednesday night [July 30], the band ruffled feathers at Terrence Brennan's Seafood and Chop House in the Benjamin Hotel where they were staying. At 4 a.m. yesterday, after many rounds of drinks, they balked at paying their $500 tab unless it was divided into seven separate checks. Once that was done, they tipped only 8 to 10 percent each, says our miffed restaurant source."

:lol:


IRON MAIDEN bassist Steve Harris spoke to Phil Freeman of Cleveland Scene about the group's forthcoming CD, "Dance Of Death", due on September 9 through Columbia Records. "It's a really, really strong album," Steve said. "We're really pleased with it. It's quite a varied album. There's two or three songs that veer toward the progressive, '70s-influenced stuff, but there's two or three songs that are more '70s hard rock, THIN LIZZY sort of stuff. The songwriting is split more on this album. I spent a long time, about six months, editing the 'Rock in Rio' DVD, and it gave the other guys time to get stuff together. It's a good thing. It makes it more diverse."

One thing that's interesting about MAIDEN, notes Freeman, is that the band have kept picking up new fans as years pass — at least overseas. "It's funny," said Harris, "because in Europe, we've got new fans all the time. Young kids as well as the older people. But in the U.S., it seems to be that we don't pick up as many new, young fans. I don't really know why that is. But here, the average age is a bit older than when we play elsewhere. We'll see what happens on this tour."

"There's a lot of young bands citing us as influences or wearing our T-shirts in the videos and things like that," Harris added. "We'll take whatever we can get. Anything that'll get people to come see us. I think once people come to see us, we'll do what we do, and 9 times out of 10, people will leave with a smile on their face."

Asked about the possibility of a co-headlining tour with JUDAS PRIEST next year, Steve said, "We'd love that to happen."

And reports (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1475142/20030731/iron_maiden.jhtml?headlines=true) and photos (http://www.filmmagic.com/GalleryListing.asp?navtyp=CAL====31933&ym=200307) of their MSG show.

Good to see a shiteload of press for Maiden in the US. Especially in today's musical climate.

[SideburnZ]

I'm a young Maiden fan in the US. :grumpy:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I know, but there's more appreciation for metal outside the US.

[Black Eagle]

I was reading the 'Beat' magazine yesterday and read something about a metal music festival in Australia. I cant remember much about it, or the name, but the line up looked fairly solid, with Crytopsy one of the bands that i noticed. Anyone else heard anything about it?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Pick a city. The year before last there's been about 5 or 6 major metal festivals around Australia. But now they're disappearing, but there's still quite a few.

[Black Eagle]

I think the name sounded similar to 'devestation of oz'. But like i said, i only skimmed over it and can't remember much.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Would this be it?


To The Metal Community,

As most of you are aware, the first annual Destruction of Oz Festival
takes place on 22nd August at The Palace Complex in Melbourne. This is
something that we personally have been excited about and while a lot of
hard work has been involved, nevertheless have had fun in planning this
major event.

Unfortunately, there has come a downside. While tickets have been
selling quickly, at least to begin with, it seems these have now come
to a standstill. We have scratched our heads as to why this might be
as it seems everyone has been showing as much enthusiasm as we have.
Well it seems that a couple of rumours have been going around that
maybe affecting these sales.

The first one is that certain bands, from Sodom, to Marduk, to
Crytpopsy have pulled out. This is NOT the case. ALL bands are still
on board and all bands are enthusiastic about coming to Australia for
the first time.

Secondly, it seems people are under the impression that tickets are
sold out. THIS IS NOT THE CASE. There ARE still tickets available.

Where these rumours originate from is anybodies guess. All we can say
is that we are very disappointed that it would come to this kind of
thing. If people really think tickets maybe sold out please ring the
shops - they can tell you exactly how many tickets have indeed been
sold and how many tickets are left. The other alternative is check our
website at http://www.destructionofozfestival.com for any updates etc.
Whatever you do, don't believe someone's second hand information.

Okay, now comes the hard part - obviously we need to sell more tickets
and fast. We hear too many people whinge about not enough overseas
bands coming to Australia and then when we finally DO put an event on
like this no one ends up buying a ticket. We do not care if it is The
Destruction of Oz, Nunslaughter or Soilwork - we expect every metal
head to support all overseas bands coming to Australia. That way they
can go home and tell their booking agents and other bands what a
dedicated audience we are.

We basically need to sell at least another 500 tickets this week
through the shops or directly from us, so we urge everyone who is
seriously thinking of going, to buy their ticket this week, before the
10th of August to prove to us that you still want this event to
continue. If you are waiting to the last minute to buy tickets, we
urge you not to hesitate, and would really appreciate it if you bought
your tickets THIS week so you can support us by continuing on and
making The Destruction of Oz an annual event.

Thanks for your time and see you all at the event.

Kind Regards

Mark Streater
Promoter

Related Link: http://www.destructionofozfestival.com


I have connections :angelic: http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/images/smilies/beerbang.gif

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Completely bored at 4am. So I start to put together compilations. (FOr my car, damn cassettes)
60minutes - 30 a side

Side One (Power)
Stratovarius - Eagleheart
Edguy - Golden Dawn
Dream Evil - Save Us
HammerFall - Hearts On Fire
Blind Guardian - Bright Eyes
Kamelot - Forever
Rhapsody - Holy Thunderforce

If you don't feel like Jumping out of your car and giving him the horns there's something desperately wrong with you.

Guess I'll put side two together tomorrow, I guess, considering all I play in my car these days is Fozzy's Self titled release, and the Warmachine Demo, the latter will probably never leave my car as it's the perfect album. Even if it is a demo. Hell I put it in the car for GTA3+VC, so you can't say I don't love that album.

[Grimario]

OK, I figure it's time I asked for some advice from you metal people.

I really like (most of) the sounds that belong in metal. What I don't like is the singing. Well, most of it. NiMMERS has done his best to convert me (or at least influence me) but I still cannot appreciate most of the growling, groaning, moaning and screaming that I hear in most of it. I went through a stage where I really liked COF, but after a short while the horrendous vocals made me stop listening to it. I loved the music though. Same goes for a lot of other stuff that has been recommended to me... most of the SYL stuff and Devin's other pieces, seeing as my RL friends are huge fans. But, once again... I don't dig the vocals.

Anyway, my point is... I want something heavier that has (what I consider to be) decent vocals. There are a few songs Nimmers has recommended that fit... Killswitch Engage - My Last Serenade fits in there. We've Come For You All fits in there. DTB - Slow Me Down fits in there (although it isn't really that heavy).

I want some more recommendations that might fit in there as well.... anyone?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

So you want clear vox but heavy guitars? Really depends how much screaming you can put up with.

See I'm a person who can't put up with a shiteload of screaming vocals, so I'll also listen to Progressive/Power metal. Shit like the 7 songs I just previously posted, they're all power metal songs with perfectly clear vocals, a shitload of melody but drops a bit from the kind of thrash you've listed.

There's a fuckload of different types of things in the genre, and you could prolly find something for you. But you can listen to shit like Anthrax/Megadeth/Testiment/Metallica/Slayer/Pantera because those are basically clean vocals with thrash. Go heavier with Children of Bodom/Arch Enemy/In Flames with half screaming, half clean. Kinda clean with Iced Earth and stuff.

Or just out the other side with progressive metal with weirder time signatures and a fuckload of long solos and shit liek Dream Theater/Symphony X. You could look at other metal bands like Iron Maiden/Judas Priest/Queensryche. Or jump totally into the melody of power metal with Edguy/Blind Guardian/kamelot/HammerFall/Dream Evil.

All the bands I have listed have clean vocals to an extend or at least vocals you can understand.

[Crabby]

Iron Maiden,Judas Priest,Queensryche and Dream Theater would all be good ways to go.

[Grimario]

:yes: Thanks guys

Any chance you could give me a song or two from those bands listed as a good starting point?

[Grimario]

Oh, forgot to say... already have a fairly extensive Metallica collection and a largish Slayer collection as well. Only have the most recent Anthrax album though, so I might have a look back at some older stuff.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I posted 6 Power Metal songs about 4 posts ago (last night) so there's a good start for that genre.

[Crabby]

Iron Maiden- Fear Of The Dark,Hallowed Be Thy Name,Aces High,Can I Play With Madness?

Judas Priest- Livin' After Midnight,United,You've Got Another Thing Comin',Breaking The Law.

Queensryche- Eyes Of A Stranger,I Don't Believe In Love (though it's better to just get/download the whole "Operation:Mindcrime" album).

Dream Theater- 6:00,Erotomania,Metropolis Part 1,Caught In A Web.

Fozzy are another band you should check out,no doubt you're at least semi-familiar with them.

[Grimario]

Yeah, I have a song where Fozzy did a duet with Kermit... Movin' Right Along. :shifty:

Power metal recommeded above is queued, currently searching for Crabby's recommendations. Once again, thanks guys.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Quoting one of my posts from June 8th.


Are you sure you mean Power Metal? Power metal generally is more cheesy than the bands listed and usually is Edguy, Blind Guardian, HammerFall, Helloween, Dream Evil, Rhapsody and similiar artists. Avantasia The Metal Opera is like a combined Power Metal Opera as it uses people from most Power metal bands.

The bands you listed are Symphony X (Progressive Metal), Nevermore (Goth/Traditional/Heavy/Prog Metal, bit of a mix hard to describe), and Gamma Ray (Power Metal).

Dream Theater is Progressive Rock with some metal. More of a commercial Prog also. There is weirder prog like Spoks Beard, Transatlantic, Kings X, Therion, The Flower Kings. They take their influences from Rush and Yes and some etcentric Floyd, etc. (not heavy and not metal)

I could also start listing smaller Aussie bands which are awesome like Modus Vivendi who sound similiar to DT but are totally different at the same time. Dungeon are an awesome band who seem to have a sound mixed brilliantly between Megadeth's SFSGSW (ie 80's Thrash) and Power Metal. Awesomeness.

As for Queensryche, well as it is known I love Queensryche. The whole Mindcrime cd should be owned by everyone. As well as Rust In Peace!

Another Prog Metal band but with really weird time signatures is Pain of Salvation, it's not guitar driven like most music I listen to but sometimes driven by keyboard, it incorporates alot of different types of music, some just find it weird or say it's bad. They touch on sadder themes of music.

I guess there is also cross Power Prog bands like Stratovarius and BG. Kamelot kind of sit in Power metal but they're not as heavy but use more progressive influences.

And why hasn't anyone recommended Iced Earth?

I guess I've answered the 2nd part of the question well enough for anyone.


I guess I'll just list some bands mentioned with songs. I'll give a few word desc.

Edguy (Power) - Jeresulam, No More Foolin, Headless Game, Fallen Angels, Save Us Now

Blind Guardian (ProgPower) - Into The Storm, Nightfall, Sadly Sings Destiny, Precious Jerusalem, Imaginations From The Other Side

HammerFall (Power) - Hearts On Fire, Trailblazers, Riders Of The Storm, The Unforgiving Blade

Rhapsody (Power Symphony) - Knightrider Of Doom, Power Of The Dragonflame, Emerald Sword, Warrior Of Ice, Triumph For My Magic Steel

Dream Evil (heavy Power) - Save Us, In Flames You Burn, Chasing The Dragon, Break The Chains, Children Of The Night, By My Side

Stratovarius (ProgPower) - Playing With Fire, No Turning Back, 4000 Rainy Nights, Eternity, Speed Of Light.

Queensryche (Early prog Metal) - Operation Mindcrime, I am I, Empire, Resistance, Breaking The Silence, Hit The Black, London, NM156

Spock's Beard (Prog Rock) - Day For Night, Crack The Big Sky, Flow, In The Mouth Of Madness, The Good Don't Last, Harm's Way, Goodbye To Yesterday

Pain Of Salvation (Weird Prog Metal) - Ending Theme, Fandango, Rope Ends, Dryad Of The Woods, Used, Ashes, Reconciliation

Kamelot (ProgPower) - The Spell, Wings Of Despair, Forever, Requiem For The Innocent

Avantasia (Power) - Reach Out For The Light, The Tower, The Glory Of Rome, Avantasia, Inside

Iced Earth (Heavy Power/Thrash) - Burning Times, Last December, Pure Evil, Last Laugh, Watching Over Me, I Died For You, Damien


May help. I could start to run through Anthrax and MEGADETH but I won't. They both have fairly good Greatest Hits albums.

[Crabby]

Have you heard the new King's X yet,Dave?

[Crabby]

Stupid damn double-post.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Err no. Heard of, havent heard any.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

And also we have the longest thread on this forum. (Besides What ya listn to now? But thats hardly a thread.)

We rule.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Just found this.


(June 25, 2003)
Name As many as you like of your favourite Songs of all time

Anthrax - American Pompeii (shut up Outlaw :( ),

Well it's a great song isn't it nemesis

:puke:

Well I don't like it. I just found it funny you have to mention the fact I hate it in your post a month ago. hehe.

[color=#AOEOOA]O

[Monkey]

guess what i'm listening to guys?

In Flames!

I'm kinda diggin the guitars and stuff, but this fucking live album's (The Tokyo Showdown) sound is WAYYYYYYYYYYYY up the shit!

The drums are so washed out!
The double kick sounds like someone tapping on a mic ffs!

I can really see (hear) the talent and how their's quality in the music, but I think I need to give some kind of studio sound a go.

I'd honestly rate Metallica's newie over this as far as sound quality goes. :evilgrin:

[NiMMERS]

Our thread is the thread of all threads.

I hate the 'What song are you listening to now?' thread....I was over that a long time ago on another dead and buried board.

It's just a way to boost ya posts if that sort of thing gets movement in ya crotch.

Just listened to Lamb of God's 'As The Palaces Burn'. It's easily a contender for my album of the year up there with Devy's latest solo work and Anthrax.

[Grimario]

I am currently listening to Iced Earth. :yes:

The other stuff... the power and prog metal.... not bad, but not really up my alley either. Kind of... pompous sounding music, if that makes any sense. I'm not saying its bad... it just isnt what I was looking for. Saying that though, I will probably get an extensive collection of most of them :P

[Monkey]

It's just a way to boost ya posts if that sort of thing gets movement in ya crotch.

BEST....... QUOTE......EVER!

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I am currently listening to Iced Earth. :yes:

The other stuff... the power and prog metal.... not bad, but not really up my alley either. Kind of... pompous sounding music, if that makes any sense. I'm not saying its bad... it just isnt what I was looking for. Saying that though, I will probably get an extensive collection of most of them :P

Oh hell yeah I should have said something. Power metal is bloody pompus. But thats the kind of guy I am.

I prolly should have said something.

[NiMMERS]

*bows*

I had a better one the other night coming home from the wrestling where I somehow said, 'There is something I like about the shitter...'.

</off topic>

I'm really geed up for Soilwork, lads. We'll have to get a group MDT shot of Crabby, Monkey and myself and post it here.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I'm really geed up for Soilwork, lads. We'll have to get a group MDT shot of Crabby, Monkey and myself and post it here.

That'd be a scary picture. :scared:

Weird freaky metal Sydney people.

[Grimario]

Oh hell yeah I should have said something. Power metal is bloody pompus. But thats the kind of guy I am.

I prolly should have said something.

I figure it's something I will listen to depending on my mood... it's not something I could just put on and listen to anytime.

I just kept getting Iced Earth songs... have nearly 30 now. I really really like this too. :yes:

Thanks guys

[Aussie_Outlaw]

And now they have Ripper. Good Ol' Timmy Owens.

What's happening with Schaffer's Demons and Wizards Sideproject? Guess I'll have to look into it.

[WizoOzz]

So you want clear vox but heavy guitars? Really depends how much screaming you can put up with.

See I'm a person who can't put up with a shiteload of screaming vocals.

:lol:

I'm sorry...but Dave...come on, now. You're the resident metal expert...


...and you don't dig the screaming vocals?!!! :shocked:

Anywho, for Grimario: I used to be kind of made of the same material where I'd listen to some heavier stuff as long as I could understand the vocals I was set. I was really into Metallica, Megadeth, Sabbath and Ozzy's solo stuff, tons of classic rock stuff like Hendrix, Clapton, Zeppelin and Floyd.

I kind of stuck there at that level for a few years because the g/f that I had at the time kind of held me stagnant in terms of what I was listening to. Once I opened her mind to some heavier stuff that she was into, I started to branch out again and started digging the early stages of nu-metal. Got really heavy into Tool there for a while...and when Disturbed came out, I really dug them. Then, my break-up came about and I was a complete cluster-fuck in terms of what I was listening to. Being closed-minded was a flaw that I saw in myself (not just with music, but since we're in the music forum, that's where I'll let it apply)...and I started really getting into anything that was audible. Got into some Bon Jovi and Def Leppard stuff, got into some R&B stuff and some rap stuff. Then I found Down.

This is where everything began to change. See, some odd years earlier I swore that I would never buy anything released by Pantera, because I couldn't stand the vocals. But I was listening to Down, w/ Phil from Pantera...and I knew it was Phil from Pantera...and I hated the fact that I dug this album. Then I decided that since I dug Down so much, I had to give Pantera a shot...I couldn't deny Pantera anymore...I felt the stuff they were putting out. I got Reinventing the Steel and ate up every last track on it. So I had to get Far Beyond Driven which initially I didn't dig that much. I figured that maybe I should give their other albums a shot. I got Vulgar Display of Power and it really got me into it. After picking up all their albums (I picked up CFH and I managed to make The Great Southern Trendkill my last Pantera purchase), I discovered the beauty that was Pantera's major label releases.

From there it expanded to Slayer (another group I swore up and down I wouldn't ever be into), then In Flames, then Opeth, then the Haunted, now Cannibal Corpse, Lamb of God and Nile. It continues down in an endless spiral. Once it grows on you, it's a long, endless trail into darkness. Start out w/ Iced Earth or Demons & Wizards, but don't close your eyes to everything that's got screaming and growling...there's some really good shit out there w/ "unclean" vocals, you just gotta go out there and find it. A good place to pick up there is In Flames and Opeth. Even Children of Bodom and Soilwork are pretty good. And then when you start really getting into those types of acts, pick up Cannibal Corpse's Bleeding, that album is so great on so many levels, I can't even compare it to anything else.

Just don't judge the shit from the shinola, man. There's good shit out there w/ "crappy" vox. You just got to find the good stuff and separate it from the bad.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

:D

I'm also online wayyyyyyyyyy too much.

But you know what I mean. I like some of it but still I'm not totally into it like burnz. I don't my obscure death metal bands.

I know almost everything else though.

[Crabby]

*bows*

I had a better one the other night coming home from the wrestling where I somehow said, 'There is something I like about the shitter...'.

</off topic>

I'm really geed up for Soilwork, lads. We'll have to get a group MDT shot of Crabby, Monkey and myself and post it here.

Which RA show were you at,man? I was at the Saturday night.

Apparently the Geeks your dates I posted from Ipecac's site may be subject to some changes.But I'll be there regardless.

[Crabby]

I found this on Blabbermouth,thought it was very interesting.Though just take it as a rumour at this point-

"A blabbermouth exclusive…

The reformed Fear Factory, now consisting of Christian Olde Wolbers (guitar/bass), Raymond Herrera (drums), and Burton C. Bell (vocals) — are strongly rumoured to be on the verge of signing a new record deal with the Los Angeles-based D3 Entertainment (Insane Clown Posse, Ol' Dirty Bastard, and Mack 10 offshoot group Da Hood).

The group are expected to enter the studio in late summer/early fall to begin recording the follow-up to 2001's ‘Digimortal’, tentatively due in early 2004. Among the tracks set to appear on the as-yet-untitled effort are the four songs demo-ed last year prior to the band's split with Roadrunner Records: ‘Slave Labor’, ‘Corporate Cloning’, ‘Archetype’, and ‘Bite The Hand That Feeds’.

Is this to say that FF are going to morph into a hip hop act??? Time reveals all…"

Hmmmmmm,this is pretty interesting.I'm a huge Fear Factory fan,but I think they may have run their course.And with Dino seemingly not involved,I'm not certain this is the way to go.

[QuietStorm]

I now own all 7 Opeth albums. And they all fucking rule. Yay.

[NiMMERS]

Which RA show were you at,man? I was at the Saturday night.

Same here. I had a $90 ticket. Marred by stupid marks who went like this every time a 2 count eventuated, "One, Two, Twoooooooooooooooooooo". It was like Macauly Culkin in Home Alone 2 and his little recorder thingy...TalkBoy or whatever it was called.

[WizoOzz]

I now own all 7 Opeth albums. And they all fucking rule. Yay.

Now all you gotta do is find the versions of Orchid, Morningrise, and My Arms, Your Hearse w/ bonus tracks.

:p

I have all 7 albums as well...but I'll list everything of theirs that I have (just to brag):

Orchid
Orchid (Import) (w/ the bonus track "Into the Frost of Winter")
Morningrise
Morningrise (Import) (w/ the bonus track "Eternal Soul Torture")
My Arms, Your Hearse
My Arms, Your Hearse (Import) (w/ the bonus tracks "Circle of the Tyrant," a cover of the Celtic Frost tune, and "Remember Tomorrow," a cover of the Iron Maiden tune)
Still Life (the perfect Opeth album)
Blackwater Park
Blackwater Park-Special Edition (came w/ the black case w/ the "O" insignia, has a bonus disc w/ "Still Day Beneath the Sun" and "Patterns in the Ivy II," also features a video for the track "Harvest" for your computer)
Deliverance
Damnation

My Opeth tee-shirt w/ the band on the back (it's black w/ white printing).

My Opeth concert long-sleeve for Deliverance, also black w/ white printing, features the album cover on the front.

That makes like, 12 discs from Opeth sucking up space in my collection.

Damn I spend too much money. :nono:

But everyone of these cds was worth it :headbang:

[Nemesis]

Hmmmmmm,this is pretty interesting.I'm a huge Fear Factory fan,but I think they may have run their course.And with Dino seemingly not involved,I'm not certain this is the way to go.

Dino not being there is better for the group, but not for the music IMO. If I see a new FF CD, though, I'll probably buy it anyway. :\

[Crabby]

Same here. I had a $90 ticket. Marred by stupid marks who went like this every time a 2 count eventuated, "One, Two, Twoooooooooooooooooooo". It was like Macauly Culkin in Home Alone 2 and his little recorder thingy...TalkBoy or whatever it was called.

Where were you sitting? That's the same type of seats as we had.

You going to see The Butterfly Effect on their current tour? I'll be seeing em' on the 24th.

I picked up some albums at a local second-hand store today,damn cheap as well.I bought Paradise Lost's "Draconian Times" and the "Forever Failure" single, as well as Biohazard's "State Of The World Address" and "New World Disorder".

[QuietStorm]

Now all you gotta do is find the versions of Orchid, Morningrise, and My Arms, Your Hearse w/ bonus tracks.

:p

I have all 7 albums as well...but I'll list everything of theirs that I have (just to brag):

Orchid
Orchid (Import) (w/ the bonus track "Into the Frost of Winter")
Morningrise
Morningrise (Import) (w/ the bonus track "Eternal Soul Torture")
My Arms, Your Hearse
My Arms, Your Hearse (Import) (w/ the bonus tracks "Circle of the Tyrant," a cover of the Celtic Frost tune, and "Remember Tomorrow," a cover of the Iron Maiden tune)
Still Life (the perfect Opeth album)
Blackwater Park
Blackwater Park-Special Edition (came w/ the black case w/ the "O" insignia, has a bonus disc w/ "Still Day Beneath the Sun" and "Patterns in the Ivy II," also features a video for the track "Harvest" for your computer)
Deliverance
Damnation

My Opeth tee-shirt w/ the band on the back (it's black w/ white printing).

My Opeth concert long-sleeve for Deliverance, also black w/ white printing, features the album cover on the front.

That makes like, 12 discs from Opeth sucking up space in my collection.

Damn I spend too much money. :nono:

But everyone of these cds was worth it :headbang:
Nice list of shit there. And since I had already downloaded all the albums before purchasing them I have all of those bonus tracks:).

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Crabby I was at Uni for once. Not asleep.

On topic my Megadeth Collection sits something like this

Killing Is Mu Business... And Business Is Good
Peace Sells
So Far, So Good, So What!
Rust In Peace
Countdown To Extinction
Youthanasia (Jap)
Hidden Treasures
Cryptic Writings
Crypric Sounds
Crypric Writings (Jap)
Live Traxx 1
Live Traxx 2
Risk
Breadline Special Edition EP
Woodstock 99 Bootleg
Barcelona 97 Acoustic Bootleg
Capitol Punishment
The World Needs A Hero
Rude Awakening
TWNAH Long Sleeve T-Shirt
TWNAH Poster Flag


Only thing missing is the KIMB remaster, and I know I can get that in Knox.

[Crabby]

Is there any unreleased stuff on their Best Of? I didn't think there was.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Talking to me?

Just Kill the King and Dread and the Fugitive Mind, the latter also being on TWNAH and KTK was a live track on RA.

[Crabby]

From the Destruction Of Oz website-

"
To The Metal Community,

As of today (6/8/2003) we have officially closed the Destruction of Oz Festival. We are truly sorry to have to do this but feel we have no choice. Because of low sales, to continue we feel would not worthwhile. I have personally gotten professional advice of how many tickets we can expect to sell all up and the estimated amount would come nowhere close to cover the cost of putting such an event on. We feel it is better to cut our losses now than occur an ever bigger expense by carrying on.

To be honest we do not know why sales are as low as they are, especially when they started selling well but it may be because of certain rumours that have been going around. The first one was that certain bands had dropped out - this is not true as all bands were still keen and very enthusiastic to come to Australia. The second rumour was that the event had actually sold out. It seems people could not even bother to ring their local retailer or Ticketek to verify whether this was even true or not and just accepted the fact. It is funny how rumors get around. Even to look on the guest book and people try to tell me that news travels fast along the grapevine and that they had heard the gig was cancelled - before I had even confirmed it or mentioned it to anyway. A word of advice - don't believe anything unless it comes from the horses mouth so to speak.

It is fair to say, that yes, we might have sold a lot more tickets before the actual gig, but as I said, going by ticket sales as they stood at the time of cancellation this is unlikely.

We apologise to you all for the disappointment that you are sure to feel. Believe me - if anyone is more disappointed it is us. We have all put a lot of time, effort and money into this venture, all of which has been lost. We never organised this for money but decided to put this event on for you guys. Unfortunately, I guess not enough people were interested in seeing these bands afterall.

As for ticket refunds, yes, none of you have missed out. I have spoken to all the retailers involved and someone is also speaking to Ticketek on our behalf to make sure that ALL tickets are refunded including booking fee. This we will be paying at OUR cost, not yours. Please note though that tickets will not be refunded until after the 22nd of August as it is not as simple as just collecting your money. But guaranteed that these costs will be re-imburessed to you. As for those who are travelling from interstate or who have been inconvenienced in some way, please contact us straight away so we can issue an official apology. Email: info@extremenoizerecords.com. We are sorry that you have made the effort to come from places as far away as you have for it to end like this. You are all an example of true metal heads though, to have made the effort.

Once again, our sincerest apologies for any inconvenience and thank you to those who had made the effort.

Kind Regards

Mark
Promoter"

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Let me go out on a limb here and say it didn't sell well because...

... there were no acts which appeal to the majority of the metal community at large? Hmm?

Sure filing up a black/death metal lineup at $80 isnt going to get the casual metal fan at all.

Maybe wide variety bands who have appeal like Nevermore. Then it'd sell. But the bands who were on the bill were just not my taste.

[NiMMERS]

Yeah has anyone heard Nevermore's new album? I've been thinking about picking it up. Comes in a black jewell case and a bonus dvd with live clips and videos. Reasonably priced too.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I'll have to make a trip down to JB Hi-Fi in the near future.

Even if the production by Kelly Gray is supposedly lackin.

[Black Eagle]

Bought the new Butterfly Effect album today 'Begins here'. Very nice indeed. Their single 'one second of insanity' is a brilliant track. Check 'em out.

[NiMMERS]

I'll have to make a trip down to JB Hi-Fi in the near future.

Even if the production by Kelly Gray is supposedly lackin.

I downloaded 'Enemies Of Reality' off the new release of the same name. The mp3 was standard quality and it sounded a little muffled, maybe it was the rip?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I downloaded the song when it initially came out back at the start of June (It's dated June 2nd) and I find it's pretty flat and not very layered much (if at all). And the drums thud more than crash.

You find the same with your mp3?


Basically I can get a better sound out of the mixing board at church. Infact I can, and not even using a compressor and having average singers.

Except last week. I wasn't doing the audio last week but sitting back there and helping (ie lights, recording, doing the audio when the bastard stopped paying attn) and it was as flat as hell and the drummer was a 1/4 of a bar out of time. Oh how I laughed that he couldnt get a decent sound.

I guess thats why I'm always very picky about production since I know it's not that hard to get a decent sound of some equiptment. And I prefer albums with stronger drumming. Cos I played the drums for awhile in primary school.

Thats why St Anger can go to hell as far as I'm concerned. Poor Production + Poor Drums = Dave don't like.

Anything you're really critical about in your music?

[NiMMERS]

Well I suppose if the music is sub par then obviously it's gonna suck.

Then it all comes down to production. If the vocals come off as being flat and not really contributing to the sound at all. A perfect example is on the latest Old Man's Child. The vocals have no body and don't really punch through like the top quality music. The bad mixing and producing of the vocals is accentuated by some of the effects layered on top of it and it becomes quite inaudible.

As long as everything is crisp and in your face and heard at the intended times....then I'm pretty happy.

[GameOver!]

Can anyone give me a recommendation on Molested?

[GameOver!]

Have anyone here purchased the new releases of the DarkThrone albums in the digipack format? They each come with an interview video format extra which you view on your computer. Very cool shit.

:beer:

[Crabby]

Some cool news I found from Blabbermouth-

"PRIMUS Reform, Record New Material - Aug. 8, 2003

The original lineup of PRIMUS — Les Claypool (bass/vocals), Tim "Herb" Alexander (drums) and Larry "Ler" Lalonde (guitar) — has reformed after a four-year hiatus and has recorded five new songs for inclusion on the upcoming DVD/CD set, "Animals Should Not Try to Act Like People", due October 7 on Prawn Song/Interscope Records.

According to the official Les Claypool newsletter, the DVD will contain all 13 PRIMUS videos, including the little-seen "Lacquer Head" (an anti-drug clip banned by MTV for its drug references), along with 1992's "Cheesy Home Video" documentary, award-winning cartoon "The Devil Went Down to Georgia", and previously unreleased live footage.

Live performances on the DVD cover every single era of the band's career, from a 1989 college radio appearance, to Woodstock '94, to latter-day shows with Brain. A rarities section even includes pre-Larry and Tim performances from the Eighties with first guitarist Todd Huth, and drummers Jay Lane and Tim "Curveball" Wright.

The five brand-new cuts recorded for the collection are as follows:

01. Pilcher's Squad
02. Mary the Ice Cube
03. The Last Superpower aka Rapscallion
04. My Friend Fats
05. The Carpenter and the Dainty Bride

The new songs were recorded in June during a session at Rancho Relaxo. Some of these musical ideas were generated in May in Los Angeles, when Les Claypool, Larry LaLonde and Tim Alexander first got back together and spent three days jamming, testing the waters, feeling each other out and working on new jams.

"The track 'Pilcher's Squad' was written and recorded in one afternoon," stated Les. "The lyric was inspired by the activities of the notorious Sgt. Norman Pilcher, a London police detective that used to bust Pop stars (including John Lennon and George Harrison) in the late sixties for drug possession. He was later convicted and subsequently jailed six years for planting evidence."

Regarding the idea behind the package, Claypool said, "It seems of late that bands are adding supplemental DVD material to their album releases to promote record sales. We've done the opposite. We've added a supplemental audio recording of brand new music to an extremely comprehensive DVD of classic visuals. Also, we've enlisted the incredible talents of some local artists to create a cutting edge, interactive interface."

The band will promote the package with a limited run of shows starting Oct. 15. Dubbed "Tour de Fromage", the trek will feature PRIMUS offering an opening set that varies nightly followed by the full performance of 1991's "Sailing the Seas of Cheese".

Confirmed shows so far are include the following:

Oct. 17 – Los Angeles, CA @ The Wiltern Theatre
Oct. 21 – Denver, CO @ The Fillmore
Oct. 31 – San Francisco, CA @ The Warfield

"The spontaneous visual presentation and the varied song selection will insure that no two performances will be the same," said Claypool, who has spent the last three years creating and collaborating on a range of projects with a wide array of influential musicians. "It has been an incredible period of growth for me as an artist and performer. And one thing I have gained from this time away from PRIMUS is a huge respect for the unique creative chemistry that Larry, Tim and I have together."

In other news, San Francisco photographer Jay Blakesberg is publishing a photographic history of PRIMUS and all of Les Claypool's solo projects. The 192-page hard covered "To Defy The Laws of Tradition - Photographic Archive of Primus & Les Claypool" features over 800 shots (at last count) culled from Blakesberg's 10,000+ image archive of PRIMUS, HOLY MACKEREL, SAUSAGE, OYSTERHEAD, and FROG BRIGADE photos. Les Claypool and others contribute essays to this one of a kind, limited-edition, numbered collector's item.

Available for $100 (including shipping and handling) only through the PRIMUS and LES CLAYPOOL web sites (no bookstores), "To Defy The Laws of Tradition…" will be signed by Les Claypool and Jay Blakesberg and will come in a special handmade box. This will be a one-time-only printing.

If you are interested in purchasing this book, send an e-mail to primusbook@blakesberg.com and write 'YES' in the subject line (this does not commit you to purchasing anything). Your response will help the band judge how big a press run they will need to satisfy PRIMUS aficionados (right now the print run is scheduled to be 2000 copies). Books will be shipped in October."

And Hatebreed will be releasing their new album,"The Rise Of Brutality" in October.Cool stuff.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

](first) new track off the upcoming Arch Enemy album 'Anthems of Rebellion'

Arch Enemy - We will Rise (http://www.centurymedia.de/download/mp3/mp3_login.aspx?id=48&language=de)

Posted in Asylum yesterday but figured I should also put it here.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

And Brendan is it worth downloading The Shape Of Punk To Come?

[Crabby]

Yep,definitely. "New Noise" is probably the best track on it (it kicks arse,but that's just to give you an indication).There's some filler on it but overall its pretty good.

And this 'cause I love a good Anselmo rant-

"PANTERA/SUPERJOUNT RITUAL frontman Philip Anselmo recently spoke to Metal Edge magazine about the influence he has had on fans as well as other bands.

"There wasn't even anyone with a bald head in bands in my fuckin' day, in metal bands at least," he said. "If you think about it, there really fuckin' wasn't. Now everybody's bald, and now look how many motherfuckers have beards and mustaches. You know, like the kid from GODSMACK [presumably referring to Sully Erna—Ed.], he dresses like me. He's been in my fuckin' laundry. He's still a good kid, he's a nice kid, but he's been in my fuckin' laundry basket, motherfucker."

When asked what he thinks set him apart from most musicians, Anselmo said, "There ain't nobody like me, at all. Not since day one. And you'll get that coming through life a few times. There's Mick Jaggers, there's Robert Plants, there's Rob Halfords, there's Bruce Dickinsons, Ozzy Osbournes, and shit like that. Lump me in with the Ozzy Osbournes. I always felt that PANTERA was in a way similar to BLACK SABBATH, not sounding the same really at all, but in the route that we took in people's hearts. We never had this big radio hit. SABBATH never had a gigantic radio hit, and still they would pull that hardcore motherfucking audience and they were not afraid to bring any band on tour. They made bands like VAN HALEN by bringing them on tour. Towards the end of SABBATH's career, I think even everybody felt that change in them, like they were not cutting the standard with how intense rock 'n' roll was getting with bands like VAN HALEN, and shit like that. They weren't as fresh as they used to be, and they disbanded. Well, I've always told myself that I don't want to become the old man onstage. I wanted to keep it new until the day I fuckin' croak."

Asked if that was the case with PANTERA, Philip said, "With PANTERA, I just felt that we had done the ultimate of what we could really do, and as far as touring and all that shit for me, in arenas and shit like that, yeah, we could have done that for a whole lot longer, and we could still do that. But you know, I had been there, and I lived through that side of things, and yeah, it's its own thing, it's a unique feeling in itself to play in front of that many people and what-not, but it's better for me to play in front of a smaller audience, a more intimate audience. It feels better. I'd rather play three sold-out nights in a small fuckin' place than one sold-out night in a big, fuckin' giant place."

[NiMMERS]

Have anyone here purchased the new releases of the DarkThrone albums in the digipack format? They each come with an interview video format extra which you view on your computer. Very cool shit.

:beer:

I've thought about it. Which one would be the best to get for a Darkthrone novice?

I was listening to 'Hate Them' today and it was fairly decent. The songs take a while to get into the swing of things.

Yo Dave, picked up new Nevermore today (along with In Flames' 'Colony') and the production is really shit. Sounds like FM radio with bad reception. Great songs marred by Gray's shit knob twiddling skills.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I love the thing with Pantera being that CFH has a fuckload of Power Metal influences as well as thrash but if you'd talk to any Pantera fan they dont like Power.

Strange.

Hmm Colony, Now thats an awesome record. :headbang:

[Crabby]

Received my Seps EP yesterday.It's pretty cool,even if it's weird hearing them cover Massive Attack.

5 weeks to go until Soilwork and the mighty 'Bok.

[Crabby]

Are you going to download Refused,Dave?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Sometime when I get around to it.

[Crabby]

As well as The Mark Of Cain's "This Is This......"?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

That one's fairly hard to find.

JUST MAIL EM TO ME YOU BASTARD.

[Crabby]

Download the first Queens Of The Stone Age album and Mondo Generator.Both seriously under-rated heavy rock albums.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Already have the first QOTSA off my brother's mate.

Just havent had time to listen to it.

[NiMMERS]

'Colony' is great.....some dickhead at JB keeps on pinching my copy of 'Whoracle' when they get it in...THIEVES!

Hell yes, Soilwork and Frankenbok!!!!!!!!!
I downloaded some Descend and it's decent enough thrash. Apparently they give out their EP for free at gigs.

[Crabby]

It's damn good,"Regular John" and "I Was A Teenage Hand Model" are both killer.

[Crabby]

'Colony' is great.....some dickhead at JB keeps on pinching my copy of 'Whoracle' when they get it in...THIEVES!

Hell yes, Soilwork and Frankenbok!!!!!!!!!
I downloaded some Descend and it's decent enough thrash. Apparently they give out their EP for free at gigs.

They do? Cool stuff.I'll have to pick up one of Frankenbok's CD's at the gig as well anyway.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

'Colony' is great.....some dickhead at JB keeps on pinching my copy of 'Whoracle' when they get it in...THIEVES!

Special Edition?

Yeah Whoracle is good too but I tend to like Colony more since it was my first In Flames. Early In Flames is like Early Metallica, everyone loves a different one.

[Crabby]

You going to go to Metallica and/or Soilwork,Dave?

New Machine Head due in October as well.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

1st: I'd have to hock my gold teeth to afford to go.

2: Dunno, havent really looked into it.

[NiMMERS]

Yeah I've only ever seen Special Edition.

I'm not sure which one I like the best.....possibly 'Clayman'.

[Crabby]

You going to go to Geeks,Nimmers?

[NiMMERS]

You going to go to Metallica and/or Soilwork,Dave?

New Machine Head due in October as well.

120 bucks is a bit out there for me. Besides I was over Metallica when I was 12 :)

I anticipate the new Machine Head with trepidation...it's supposedly a return to form, but we'll see I suppose.

[Crabby]

I haven't liked Metallica's last three albums,I'm just going to hear the old stuff.Hearing "For Whom The Bell Tolls" and "Creeping Death" live would be awesome.

[NiMMERS]

Is Geeks coming to Newcastle? Definitely if so.
I'd say they would cos the Melvins Fantomas big band stopped here last time.

From what I've heard Metallica only play 2 songs off 'St. Anger' so it'd be rough enough.

[QuietStorm]

The Nevermore album is decent. There are tracks I really like and tracks that kind of bore me. I'll leave it at that for now I guess.

[Crabby]

I posted the dates a while back,though I think they're going to change a little.It was just Sydney in NSW,though.

[NiMMERS]

Drat and bother.

I think Frankenbok's 'Blood Oath' gets a Sept/Oct release. Hopefully they'll have it on sale at the Soilwork gig.

[Crabby]

Have you heard the new Alchemist? Picked it up recently and I must say it's damn good.Now if they could just come to the 'Gong for a show also.

If not,I'll just pick up one of their other CD's at the Soilwork gig.

And are you going to see The Butterfly Effect anytime soon?

[NiMMERS]

I'd say The Butterfly Effect will stop off at the Cambridge (local heavy music pub) so I'll see them there I reckon.

Why would there be a Alchemist cd at the Soilwork gig?

[Crabby]

I was referring to Frankenbok.Whoops.

TBE are playing at the Oxford Tavern on the 24th,so I'll catch em' then.

[Black Eagle]

TBE are very good live. Their singer has one powerful voice. Though when they played with Grinspoon, they weren't known, so the crowd was quite passive. However, their fan base has increased so their set at the Hi Fi bar will be better. Yay.

[GameOver!]

I've thought about it. Which one would be the best to get for a Darkthrone novice?

I was listening to 'Hate Them' today and it was fairly decent. The songs take a while to get into the swing of things.I say go with "A Blaze in the Northern Sky" first.

But then again, I say get all the albums. :beer:

[SideburnZ]

I got Darkthrones Soulside Journey the other day. :yes: Awesomeness.

I'll probably get A Blaze In the Northern Sky and Plaguewielder sometime this weekend.

Crabby, I dunno if I told you but I finally got some SYL. I got city and SYL. Love em.

What else what else...

Everyone should check out December, their album The Lament Configuration. I'll be getting their other album soon.

I got Ozzys No More Tears. I'm in love with Zombie Stomp. :wired:

Motorhead - Hammered, I like it. I need to get their older stuff.

I got Niles "In their darkened shrines". Usually I'm not a huge fan of that type of vocals...but with them I love it. :yes:

I loved Superjoint Ritual from the few songs I had heard, but I finally got both albums. :drool: Greatness.

I got Tomahawks Mit Gas, even better than the first album.

Necrophagias Cannibal Holocaust...I REALLY want more of their stuff.

Dark Tranquillity - Damage Done. I like it.

Antrhax - Weve come for you all. My first anthrax album. Aussie told me I had to give em a shot...wooo, he was right.

I got Lacuna Coils Comalies. :yes: Good.

Got Soilworks Chainheart Machine. Pretty cool, should give it a more in depth listen.

Hammerfall - Crimson Thunder. A little power metal never hurt anyone.

Slayer Hell Awaits, my favorite slayer album now. I enjoy it much more than Seasons and Reign.

Jesus, ok, I'm done.

[Crabby]

You should also check out the latest Sepultura album,BurnZ.And some of Devy's solo stuff.

[NiMMERS]

Crabby, I dunno if I told you but I finally got some SYL. I got city and SYL. Love em.


Get the live album recorded in Melbourne next.

Awesome in every sense of the word. Get it purely for the song 'Far Beyond Metal'....one of if not the greatest SYL song ever!

Also coming up in the SYL pipeline an EP with 4 new songs and 4 covers *spooge*

[Crabby]

Do you know what tracks they're covering for the EP?

And how cool is the live version of "Detox" on the Aussie edition of "S.Y.L.".

[NiMMERS]

I say go with "A Blaze in the Northern Sky" first.

But then again, I say get all the albums. :beer:

Cheers, buddy.

Probably go pick it up today. What next? I've heard good things about 'Funeral Moon' and 'Transylvanian Hunger'.

[Crabby]

Some more information on Ripper Owens-

"Despite having been bumped from the JUDAS PRIEST lineup last month after it was announced that Rob Halford had rejoined the band, Tim "Ripper" Owens says that he is not a bitter man.

"I'd known about it for weeks," he told the Canton Repository in an interview published Friday (August 8). "I pushed them to get (Halford) back. I'm a JUDAS PRIEST fan, so I'm glad they can get along and do this. People have been calling up like there's been a death in the family but I'm actually happy with the decision. My run was done."

As a member of JUDAS PRIEST, "you don't make any money when you're not on the road," Owens said. "Taking a year or two off between albums is a long time. I've got a family to support."

Ripper says that he remains friendly with his JUDAS PRIEST bandmates, and he hopes to take his 14-year-old daughter, Lauren, to visit them at their homes in England.

"I'm definitely happy," said Owens' wife, Jeannie. "Tim is 35. It's time for him to do his own thing."

Tim says that his "phone has been ringing nonstop" since officially departing JUDAS PRIEST. He has recorded all the vocals for ICED EARTH's upcoming CD, "The Glorious Burden", and he has also been writing his own songs, which he has previously described as GODSMACK-meets-PANTERA-meets-PRIEST: "[It's] very basic verse-chorus-verse stuff with catchy choruses," he said. He plans to record a demo using local Ohio musicians and begin the label-shopping procedure.

In addition, he has been appearing as a frequent guest vocalist with a band called THE SICKNESS that regularly plays in the Ohio area. Owens sings about half the songs, including numbers by GODSMACK ("I Stand Alone"), AUDIOSLAVE ("Cochise") and the FOO FIGHTERS ("All My Life"), plus the Peter Green-penned (FLEETWOOD MAC) song regularly performed by JUDAS PRIEST, "Green Manalishi".

THE SICKNESS, whose lead vocalist is Tim Zuver, also perform songs by DISTURBED, LINKIN PARK and KORN. "They call it 'nu metal,' which I can't really figure out," Owens confesses. "It's all hard rock to me."

Owens says that his days with THE SICKNESS are numbered. "It's a really fun thing to do. I'm really good friends with those guys. But it's going to end for me pretty soon," he said. "I'm trying to get things going for myself now and it doesn't look so good that I'm singing covers again."

Tim performed last night (August 8) with the band SEATTLE (covering grunge-era music by NIRVANA, PEARL JAM, SOUNDGARDEN and ALICE IN CHAINS) at Sadie Rene's in North Canton, Ohio, and he has three upcoming Ohio shows with THE SICKNESS: Aug. 29 at Sadie Rene's, Sept. 6 at the Carriage House in Louisville, and Sept. 19 at Melini's Pub in Canton. Click here to see a photo of Owens with his 8-week-old son, Timothy Steven Owens Jr."

I also read on Blabbermouth that Opeth will be touring Australia again in December for "Damnation" after their European tour.

[NiMMERS]

I definitely won't be missing out on Opeth this time.

[Crabby]

It seems Ripper isn't the full-time vocalist for Iced Earth,and he will be working on the aforementioned solo project instead.

[QuietStorm]

Everyone should check out Green Carnation if you haven't already. I am finding them to be pretty damn sweet.

[NiMMERS]

Picked up 'A Blaze In The Northern Sky' and 'Transylvanian Hunger'. Real good dirty and raw as fuck black metal. It's an acquired taste, but once you get it it's tops.

The candid interviews are a nice touch too. The voice where Fenriz says 'Whats your favourite Darkthrone album?' had me in tears.

[Monkey]

I haven't liked Metallica's last three albums,I'm just going to hear the old stuff.Hearing "For Whom The Bell Tolls" and "Creeping Death" live would be awesome.


Seeing them play those is DEFINATELY worth it.
I actually liked most of Load/Reload, so when I went to see them last time round I was fucking stoked to hear everything live.

Last time round they did a cool little acoustic part half way through the mammoth 3 hours too. Hearing "Four Horsemen" played acoustic was wayyyyy cool......


Crabby, where did you hear that 'bok where supporting Soilwork?
Cause it doesn't actually say anything about supports on the tix or on The Gaelic Club (http://www.thegaelicclub.com) website?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Hearing "Four Horsemen" played acoustic was wayyyyy cool......


AHEM!.... Mechanix!

Hmm, playing Megadeth in church before a service :headbang:

[SideburnZ]

I got another Dark Tranquillity album. Haven.

I like them. They are probably considered "ew omg poser metal" like COF and Dimmu...right? Cuz they're all catchy and shit.

They rule though, and they have a badass cover of 22 Acacia Avenue. :headbang:

[Crabby]

Seeing them play those is DEFINATELY worth it.
I actually liked most of Load/Reload, so when I went to see them last time round I was fucking stoked to hear everything live.

Last time round they did a cool little acoustic part half way through the mammoth 3 hours too. Hearing "Four Horsemen" played acoustic was wayyyyy cool......


Crabby, where did you hear that 'bok where supporting Soilwork?
Cause it doesn't actually say anything about supports on the tix or on The Gaelic Club (http://www.thegaelicclub.com) website?

It was posted on the Metalshop site a few times a while back and I think it's on Frankenbok's website as well,plus I'm certain I've seen it a few street press advertisements as well.

I'm wondering who they'll get to support Metallica on their tour.

And Opeth's website has confirmed the Aussie "Damnation" tour for December.

[Nemesis]

Anybody have any recommendations for Vader Albums? So far I have Litany, Kingdom, and Future of the Past. I'm not sure which one I'm going to get next.

I'm also thinking of getting some more Dimmu Borgir, even though I'm not getting into Spiritual Black Dimensions much. It's OK, but Darkness Enthrone Triumphant is better, IMO. I still need to get some of the old shit.

I bought Skrew's Shadow of Doubt again, to replace my lost one. My favorite industrial CD of all time. I like it a lot better than Ministry's Psalm 69; heavier and less repetetive.

I still want to get some Burzum, too. I think I'll check out The End's site tonight, since I need to get a present for someone anyway.

[Crabby]

And I posted this 'cause I love it when Chino talks shit (even if I do love Deftones)-

"DEFTONES frontman Chino Moreno has refused to apologize for the barbed comments he's made in the press about KORN and his Summer Sanitarium tourmates METALLICA, LIMP BIZKIT and LINKIN PARK, saying that he was simply speaking the truth and insisting that he doesn't "give a shit" if anybody else was offended by his remarks.

"I am a nice guy, and I don't think people understand how many times I get asked questions about other bands," Moreno told Metal Edge magazine. "Most of the times, I don't answer them, because I want to talk about DEFTONES. I want to talk about my band, you know what I mean? I don't want to talk about other bands. I'm sure those other bands that were talked about haven't read [my comments] yet [at the time of this interview], but I heard that everybody was upset about it… I'm not here to make everybody happy, and I'm not here to upset anybody. I'm just doing what I'm doing, and they said I was talking 'trash'. I think I was talking just truth, and the way I perceive it. It might not be true to them, but it's the way I feel. And if you are going to ask me if I think my band is heavier than METALLICA, what am I going to say, 'No'? I mean, fuck! I have faith in my band, and I look at what we do, and especially when we are on a tour like [Summer Sanitarium], it's competition. We have to go out there, and we have to be strong, and we have to be confident in what we do — that's basically it. I mean, I wouldn't say anything personal against anybody, because I don't have any beef with anybody. If they have beef with me, that's fine — whatever — but it's not like that at all. It's strictly music talking."

With regards to whether any of the other bands confronted him personally about his comments, Moreno said, "Management companies were calling our management saying, 'What's he doing? What's he doing?' I don't give a shit, really. . . I mean, it sucks, because that's not what I want our shit to be about, especially when we have a new record coming out. I want to talk about my record. I don't want to talk about other bands, because honestly, I don't listen to those other bands. It's kind of pointless."

When asked if the fact that the DEFTONES were second on the bill at Summer Sanitarium had contributed to his frustration, Chino said, "Yeah. . . I think that is what sparked a lot of my initial anger, because I was against doing that whole thing [Summer Sanitarium] in the first place, then they started asking me, 'What do you think about…' Then I started thinking about the shitty position we had on that tour, and that we are opening for these other bands. I mean, honestly, I'm sure [LIMP BIZKIT and LINKIN PARK] would be a band [if it weren't for us] — maybe I went too far by saying that [laughing], but fuck it! I don't give a shit. Honestly, I was outvoted — [DEFTONES sampler/keyboardist] Frank [Delgado] and I didn't want to do the tour. When we are coming out of the box with a new record, I don't want to go out and be associated with everything that we tried so hard to distance ourselves from, you know what I mean? I just wanted to go out and do what we do, and then eventually, maybe next summer, it would have been okay. But that's just my opinion. That's just the way I feel about it. But I will go out there and I will pummel that shit every night, because that's all I can do, you know what I mean?"

[Crabby]

Aussie Geek Tour dates confirmed.Hell yeah-

Saturday 6 Brisbane - The Arena
Sunday 7 Adelaide - Heaven II
Tuesday 8 Fremantle - Metropolis
Thursday 11 Melbourne - The Palace
Saturday 13 Sydney - Hordern Pavilion

[Morrison]

I just went on a big Opeth and Symphony X downloading spree.

That makes me special.

[Crabby]

Good to hear.Did you enjoy?

[Morrison]

So far, so good.

[Crabby]

Which Opeth albums did you download?

[Morrison]

All of Deliverance and Blackwater Park.

[Crabby]

Download Orchid and Morning Rise as well.

[Morrison]

I will, tomorrow, since I'm pretty tired, and need some sleep.

[SideburnZ]

Symphony X and Opeth are good but way overrated.

[NiMMERS]

I can't speak for for Symphony X as I've never heard any of their stuff. But Opeth deserve all the hype. There is nobody like them producing that sort of music at their high level of quality.

[SideburnZ]

I can't speak for for Symphony X as I've never heard any of their stuff. But Opeth deserve all the hype. There is nobody like them producing that sort of music at their high level of quality.

I agree they're great, but people are just a tad too insane about them.

13 minute death metal songs. Crazy! Good! But jeeeeez. Relax, they arent the almighty Gods of music.

[NiMMERS]

Yeah man, they arent gods yet if at all. But they're at the top of their game for sure.

[Crabby]

They're just so respected as they're really pushing boundaries musically.And they capture extreme heaviness and melody with equal ability.

[Black Eagle]

I'm starting to get into Spineshank. I heard of them a few years ago, and was never into this genre of music. But they came up in a search and i got 'dead to me'. They arn't as heavy as most other metal bands, but they are a good mix, similar to Scars of Life.

Hey Burnz, i made a thread ages ago about Dark Tranquility. They sound fucking brilliant. 'Final resistance' would be my favourite song.

[SideburnZ]

Hey Burnz, i made a thread ages ago about Dark Tranquility. They sound fucking brilliant. 'Final resistance' would be my favourite song.


Uh oh.


Btw, Spineshank are fucking horrible. :yuck:

[stryker]

I'm starting to get into Spineshank. I heard of them a few years ago, and was never into this genre of music. But they came up in a search and i got 'dead to me'. They arn't as heavy as most other metal bands, but they are a good mix, similar to Scars of Life.

Hey Burnz, i made a thread ages ago about Dark Tranquility. They sound fucking brilliant. 'Final resistance' would be my favourite song.
:scared:
BurnZ is right, Spineshark sucks, truely.

[Crabby]

The problem with Spineshank IMO is they sound way too much like a watered-down version of Fear Factory.Which is interesting 'cause it was Dino Cazares that basically discovered them.

[QuietStorm]

I downloaded 5 Devin Townsend Band Albums today. Accelerated Evolution, Infinity, Terria, Physicist, and Ocean Machine. Haven't gotten to listening to everything yet but so far I like what hear. Unique dude he is.

[stryker]

Anybody heard of Toxic Holocaust? Kickass Death Metal band.

[RaBbI-tAnGeRiNe]

Now, I'm reading all this stuff about Hammerfall, Blind Guardian and Iced Earth...

...But where the hell is Manowar? They will slay you with POWER and STEEL, while they fight by their brother's side... or their King's... or possibly a dragon's. "The Dawn of Battle" is an excellent track, if you want a recommendation. :yes:



Symphony X are great and all, but a lot of their songs tend to sound alike. And I'm going to kill someone if "The Odyssey" comes up on my playlist again. 24 minutes is just too long for me.

[Crabby]

I downloaded 5 Devin Townsend Band Albums today. Accelerated Evolution, Infinity, Terria, Physicist, and Ocean Machine. Haven't gotten to listening to everything yet but so far I like what hear. Unique dude he is.

You betcha,really good melodic metal,OM is probably the best IMO.The thing I love about Devy is you always get something new and interesting with every project.

[GameOver!]

Now, I'm reading all this stuff about Hammerfall, Blind Guardian and Iced Earth...

...But where the hell is Manowar? They will slay you with POWER and STEEL, while they fight by their brother's side... or their King's... or possibly a dragon's.That is by far, the coolest thing you have ever said. Not only because it was so lame, but because lameness is freakin' Awesome!!

:lol: Manowar.







You rule dude.

[stryker]

I'm hoping that means you hate Manowar.

IMHO, Manowar is a disgrace to the metal heads.

Anybody like Dark Army? Real good black metal!

:beer:

[Crabby]

An excerpt from a recent Devy interview-

"We’re gonna redo ‘Far Beyond Metal’, and the new song that I've got written for the new Strapping stuff is absolutely stupidly good. It's stupidly good! Now we've got the SYL record out of the way, which is a real basic, thrashy, heavy metal SYL record, now I can just go nuts! I can make Infinity-type music, but like the opposite"

Nimmers will be pleased.

[NiMMERS]

I downloaded 5 Devin Townsend Band Albums today. Accelerated Evolution, Infinity, Terria, Physicist, and Ocean Machine. Haven't gotten to listening to everything yet but so far I like what hear. Unique dude he is.

Good to hear. They're some of the best albums you will hear.

Each album has a different mood, sound and mental perspective which relates to Devy's head at the time. Personally I enjoy 'Terria' the most.


An excerpt from a recent Devy interview-

"We’re gonna redo ‘Far Beyond Metal’, and the new song that I've got written for the new Strapping stuff is absolutely stupidly good. It's stupidly good! Now we've got the SYL record out of the way, which is a real basic, thrashy, heavy metal SYL record, now I can just go nuts! I can make Infinity-type music, but like the opposite"

Nimmers will be pleased.

I hate to say it but I hoped they would have left 'Far Beyond Metal' alone and let be the legendary live only song. The live intensity gives it a real sheen and I fear the studio will take the flavour away. We shall see.

But when it comes down to it....any Devy is good Devy (BAR EKO!!!!!!!!!!!)

[SideburnZ]

I'm bored. Someone reccomend me a band that I have nothing from yet. Something new for me...and an album of theirs to get.

:(

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Do you have any of Bruce's Solo stuff?

[SideburnZ]

I have like 7 Maiden albums.

I want stuff I don't have.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Kyuss? IcedEarth? Meshuggah ? Testament?

[SideburnZ]

I got an Iced Earth and a Meshuggah album.

I'm not a big fan of Kyuss.

MAYBE I'll get a Testament.

Keep naming shit off.

[Kris]

Kyuss own you prole.

HEY. BURNZFACE. GET Ephel Duath's album Painter's Palette. It fucking owns.

[SideburnZ]

It better not be R&B shit or anything like you reccomended to me before.

[Kris]

AHAHHAAHAHAH.

Ephel Duath is like Prog Black Metal.... or something.

[Psycho]

Some cool news I found from Blabbermouth-

"PRIMUS Reform, Record New Material - Aug. 8, 2003

The original lineup of PRIMUS — Les Claypool (bass/vocals), Tim "Herb" Alexander (drums) and Larry "Ler" Lalonde (guitar) — has reformed after a four-year hiatus and has recorded five new songs for inclusion on the upcoming DVD/CD set, "Animals Should Not Try to Act Like People", due October 7 on Prawn Song/Interscope Records.

According to the official Les Claypool newsletter, the DVD will contain all 13 PRIMUS videos, including the little-seen "Lacquer Head" (an anti-drug clip banned by MTV for its drug references), along with 1992's "Cheesy Home Video" documentary, award-winning cartoon "The Devil Went Down to Georgia", and previously unreleased live footage.

Live performances on the DVD cover every single era of the band's career, from a 1989 college radio appearance, to Woodstock '94, to latter-day shows with Brain. A rarities section even includes pre-Larry and Tim performances from the Eighties with first guitarist Todd Huth, and drummers Jay Lane and Tim "Curveball" Wright.

The five brand-new cuts recorded for the collection are as follows:

01. Pilcher's Squad
02. Mary the Ice Cube
03. The Last Superpower aka Rapscallion
04. My Friend Fats
05. The Carpenter and the Dainty Bride

The new songs were recorded in June during a session at Rancho Relaxo. Some of these musical ideas were generated in May in Los Angeles, when Les Claypool, Larry LaLonde and Tim Alexander first got back together and spent three days jamming, testing the waters, feeling each other out and working on new jams.

"The track 'Pilcher's Squad' was written and recorded in one afternoon," stated Les. "The lyric was inspired by the activities of the notorious Sgt. Norman Pilcher, a London police detective that used to bust Pop stars (including John Lennon and George Harrison) in the late sixties for drug possession. He was later convicted and subsequently jailed six years for planting evidence."

Regarding the idea behind the package, Claypool said, "It seems of late that bands are adding supplemental DVD material to their album releases to promote record sales. We've done the opposite. We've added a supplemental audio recording of brand new music to an extremely comprehensive DVD of classic visuals. Also, we've enlisted the incredible talents of some local artists to create a cutting edge, interactive interface."

The band will promote the package with a limited run of shows starting Oct. 15. Dubbed "Tour de Fromage", the trek will feature PRIMUS offering an opening set that varies nightly followed by the full performance of 1991's "Sailing the Seas of Cheese".

Confirmed shows so far are include the following:

Oct. 17 – Los Angeles, CA @ The Wiltern Theatre
Oct. 21 – Denver, CO @ The Fillmore
Oct. 31 – San Francisco, CA @ The Warfield

"The spontaneous visual presentation and the varied song selection will insure that no two performances will be the same," said Claypool, who has spent the last three years creating and collaborating on a range of projects with a wide array of influential musicians. "It has been an incredible period of growth for me as an artist and performer. And one thing I have gained from this time away from PRIMUS is a huge respect for the unique creative chemistry that Larry, Tim and I have together."

In other news, San Francisco photographer Jay Blakesberg is publishing a photographic history of PRIMUS and all of Les Claypool's solo projects. The 192-page hard covered "To Defy The Laws of Tradition - Photographic Archive of Primus & Les Claypool" features over 800 shots (at last count) culled from Blakesberg's 10,000+ image archive of PRIMUS, HOLY MACKEREL, SAUSAGE, OYSTERHEAD, and FROG BRIGADE photos. Les Claypool and others contribute essays to this one of a kind, limited-edition, numbered collector's item.

Available for $100 (including shipping and handling) only through the PRIMUS and LES CLAYPOOL web sites (no bookstores), "To Defy The Laws of Tradition…" will be signed by Les Claypool and Jay Blakesberg and will come in a special handmade box. This will be a one-time-only printing.

If you are interested in purchasing this book, send an e-mail to primusbook@blakesberg.com and write 'YES' in the subject line (this does not commit you to purchasing anything). Your response will help the band judge how big a press run they will need to satisfy PRIMUS aficionados (right now the print run is scheduled to be 2000 copies). Books will be shipped in October."



OMG awesome.

[RaBbI-tAnGeRiNe]

How the hell can you hate Manowar? God damn, if they heard you saying they're a "disgrace", they'd get their SWORDS of STEEL and KILL you to DEATH.

[Kris]

Are they the mad cunts that signed contracts in blood?

[RaBbI-tAnGeRiNe]

I don't really know. I think it was someone in their band who cut themselves on stage then passed out.

[Kris]

ManOWar - Cock Rock to the nth.

[stryker]

How the hell can you hate Manowar? God damn, if they heard you saying they're a "disgrace", they'd get their SWORDS of STEEL and KILL you to DEATH.


Then I'll see them in Hell.
Along with you and all these other fools!

[Kris]

dont' you mean HELL

[Nemesis]

MAYBE I'll get a Testament.



You should get their Gathering album. Fucking awesome. Best one I've bought so far. I think Dave Lombardo did the drums on it. I could be wrong.

Demonic is a pretty good album too. Low is ok. Anything earlier than that, I don't know much about. Except for what they remade on First Strike Still Deadly.



Somebody give me some good sites to go to. Stores, reviews, anything.

[Nemesis]

ManOWar - Cock Rock to the nth.

I like the songs of theirs that I've heard. :ashamed:

That reminds me...has anyone heard Axel Rudi Pell? It's not too bad.

[NiMMERS]

I'm bored. Someone reccomend me a band that I have nothing from yet. Something new for me...and an album of theirs to get.

:(

Lamb of God - As The Palaces Burn

NOW! STAT! etc etc

You won't regret it.

[stryker]

I'll recommend even a better band... DARK ARMY!

[NiMMERS]

Never heard of them. Creative name though.

Just picked up 'Soulside Journey' and 'Under A Funeral Moon' by Darkthrone. Nice and cheap too for $AU22 each.

[Crabby]

BurnZ,try The Mark Of Cain or Alchemist.

[valadil]

I just rediscovered how much I love Blind Guardian. Time Stands Still (At the Iron Hill) came on my playlist a week ago and I've been obsessing over that song ever since. Not only is it a kick ass song, it just so happens to be about my favorite scene in the Silmarillion, which just so happens to be my favorite book by Tolkien, my favorite author.

[stryker]

Never heard of them. Creative name though.

Just picked up 'Soulside Journey' and 'Under A Funeral Moon' by Darkthrone. Nice and cheap too for $AU22 each.
Soulside Journey rules, however, I didn't like Under a Funeral Moon too much.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I just rediscovered how much I love Blind Guardian. Time Stands Still (At the Iron Hill) came on my playlist a week ago and I've been obsessing over that song ever since. Not only is it a kick ass song, it just so happens to be about my favorite scene in the Silmarillion, which just so happens to be my favorite book by Tolkien, my favorite author.


TSS(ATIH) Is a fucking awesome song

Infact the whole Nightfall in Middle Earth is amazing. Tied with Imaginations as their best album. And they have a new live album out.

Should run and find that.

[Nemesis]

Are all the Blind Guardian CDs based on Tolkien books? Or just that one?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Just that one.

HOWEVER!

The next album is going to be about Dragonlance. If you read all those fantasy books.

http://www.blind-guardian.com/center.php3?page=lyrics/themes.php3

Oh and come on feel the noise. 80's glam in the asylum.

[Alex E]

I agree that NIME is Blind Guardian's best album. It was interesting without being overdone like ANATO was. I'm a bit iffy on the new cd though, I've never read Dragonlance. And by the way, see them live if you get the chance. They were amazing when I saw them. And Manowar rules.

Off topic, I saw a Hammerfall comic book in my cd store today. I'm very tempted.

[NiMMERS]

Soulside Journey rules, however, I didn't like Under a Funeral Moon too much.

'Soulside Journey' sort of reminds me of Grave in places.

I like 'Under A Funeral Moon', it's great. But you gotta understand where they were coming from to appreciate it. They wanted it to sound like that.

[Crabby]

I'm guessing Lamb of God are worth checking out,Nimmers? Did you mainly get into them 'cause Devy has produced one of their albums?

[NiMMERS]

Well I read some good things about them in mags. The fact that Devy produced them played a large role in getting it without even hearing them.

It's completely worth it though. They're awesome.

[Crabby]

A lot of critics (Kerrang!,I'm looking at you) seemed to dislike Soilwork's NBC mainly 'cause of the production,claiming Devy made their sound too melodic.Morons.

[NiMMERS]

Kerrang! are idiots. Their review of 'SYL' sucked. Other magazines praise his work on 'NBC' because of the texture he stamped on it which reeks of Townsend.

[Crabby]

They gave "S.Y.L" three K's,didn't they? The only band Kerrang! practically worship that is worthy of it is Opeth.

I'll have to pick up "Figure Number Five" before the gig.

[NiMMERS]

Yeah 3 K's. They way the bloke spoke about it he should have given 1 K.

I prefer Terrorizer or Metal Hammer.

[Crabby]

MH have too many wannabe grunge bands like Vex Red and Puddle Of Mudd for mine.