Metal Discussion Thread

[SideburnZ]

Red Light In My Eyes (1) > You

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I like it but I hate the album at the same time, because it makes all my other albums seem softer. :(

But that album is damn good.

[SideburnZ]

I might as well update with what Ive gotten while banned for a month.

Fiaith No More - The Real Thing (not metal, meh, blow me)

White Zombie - La Sexorcisto

Type O Negative - October Rust

Opeth - Blackwater Park

The Haunted - The Haunted Made Me Do It...

Genitorturers - Sin City (again, blow me)

Lacuna Coil - Reverie

Love them all. :heart:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Lemme post all mine since you were banned.

Coal Chamber - Chamber Music
Coal Chamber - Coal Chamber
Dream Evil - Evilized
Anthrax - We've Come For You All
Dry Kill Logic - The Darker Side Of Nonsense
Fear Factory - Demanufacture
Feat Factory - Digimortal
Judas Priest - Metal Works '73-'93
Pegazus - Wings Of Destiny
The Haunted - One Kill Wonder
Pink Floyd - Meddle
Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon
Slayer - Haunting The Chapel
Slayer - Show No Mercy
Testament - The Ritual
Testament - Low
Stratovarious - Destiny
Various Artists - Rock Star Soundtrack
Fear Factory - Soul Of A New Machine
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Pink Floyd - The Wall
Kamelot - Karma
Slayer - Undisputed Attitude
Pink Floyd - A Momentary Lapse of Reason
Kreator - Endless Pain
Kreator - Violent Revolution
Stratovarius - Episode
Stratovarius - The Chosen Ones
Iced Earth - Horror Show

and various Dimmu Borgir, Sepultura, Ozzy Osbourne etc.

[Nemesis]

Hey Outlaw, you should check out Testament's The Gathering album. First Strike Still Deadly isn't too bad, either, for remakes of their old songs.

[SideburnZ]

Coal Chamber blow.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I have Testaments best of.

And yes Burnz I know.

But I only bought 2 albums on that list, burnt 3 and the rest were err 'gifts'.

[SideburnZ]

I wouldnt even take Coal Chamber albums as a gift.

Whoever gave you that gift must hate you.

[Nemesis]

I've bought 2 Coal Chambers. :ashamed:

I don't listen to them anymore, if that counts for anything.

That was back when I thought that Roadrunner Records was the best label on Earth. :nono:

[SideburnZ]

Dude, I used to like Slipknot.

Top that.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by SideburnZ
Dude, I used to like Slipknot.

Top that.

Okay.

People think I still like Slipknot. I got a poster and a calendar as Christmas gifts. I bought the original version the day it came out (the one with "Frail Limb Nursery" and "Purity" on it). Then I bought the Digipak version for the extra songs and the song they used to replace the two songs mentioned above with. So I bought essentially the same CD twice.

Bow before my idiocy. NOW!

Hey, did anyone read the nasty shit Dave Brockie (Oderus from GWAR) had to say about Corey Taylor? Then Taylor backtracked his original comments like a pansy.

[SideburnZ]

Originally posted by Nemesis
Okay.

People think I still like Slipknot. I got a poster and a calendar as Christmas gifts. I bought the original version the day it came out (the one with "Frail Limb Nursery" and "Purity" on it). Then I bought the Digipak version for the extra songs and the song they used to replace the two songs mentioned above with. So I bought essentially the same CD twice.

That is pretty bad.

Bow before my idiocy. NOW!

*bows*

Hey, did anyone read the nasty shit Dave Brockie (Oderus from GWAR) had to say about Corey Taylor? Then Taylor backtracked his original comments like a pansy.

Give me the details on the Oderus/Taylor thing. Sounds fun.

[Crabby]

BurnZ, nice to see some Faith No More being added to your collection.

[SideburnZ]

Originally posted by Crabby
BurnZ, nice to see some Faith No More being added to your collection.

Booyah.

Need Fantomas next, then I'll have an album by every Patton band.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by SideburnZ
Give me the details on the Oderus/Taylor thing. Sounds fun.

It's at www.gwar.net if you feel like reading the whole thing, but Corey was talking about how he didn't want Slipknot to stay around forever and lose relevance. After that I think he said something like, "two fucking words, motherfuckers. Fucking GWAR, man," in typical Slipknot fashion. Oderus responded on his site, ripping Taylor for being a whiny little bitch in his interviews and songs. And Brockie sounds like a fairly smart guy, wheras Corey Taylor is a member of Slipknot. Taylor responded by saying that he really loves GWAR and how his comments were misinterpreted.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I've decided no FNM in my collection.

I just went and stole their greatest hits, listened to it for half an hour and went and unstole it.

I may steal it later if I forget that I don't like it much.

[Crabby]

Fantomas are cool, though don't expect it to sound anything like what you've heard from him before.

Faith No More's "King For A Day......" -era material is quite thrashy and metallic, damn good and very under-rated.

Also, check out his work on the EP with the Dilinger Escape Plan. It's pretty fuckng quality material.I've downloaded it and it just rules,definitely go check it out.

*Simulates hitting Dave over the head repeatedly*.

[SideburnZ]

Originally posted by Nemesis
It's at www.gwar.net if you feel like reading the whole thing, but Corey was talking about how he didn't want Slipknot to stay around forever and lose relevance. After that I think he said something like, "two fucking words, motherfuckers. Fucking GWAR, man," in typical Slipknot fashion. Oderus responded on his site, ripping Taylor for being a whiny little bitch in his interviews and songs. And Brockie sounds like a fairly smart guy, wheras Corey Taylor is a member of Slipknot. Taylor responded by saying that he really loves GWAR and how his comments were misinterpreted.


Its all funny, but hahah, the part I highlighted. Bwahahahaah. :yes:

[SideburnZ]

Originally posted by Crabby
Fantomas are cool, though don't expect it to sound anything like what you've heard from him before.

Faith No More's "King For A Day......" -era material is quite thrashy and metallic, damn good and very under-rated.

Also, check out his work on the EP with the Dilinger Escape Plan. It's pretty fuckng quality material.I've downloaded it and it just rules,definitely go check it out.

*Simulates hitting Dave over the head repeatedly*.


I dont expect it to sound like anything else Patton did, thats why I want it. I heard a few songs from the Directors Cut, but I'm looking to buy the first album. :yes::drool:

Brents been bugging me to check out Dilinger Escape Plan. I shall get that next.

[Crabby]

Eh, it's just that I've recommended Fantomas to other people, and after they've listened to them said they didn't like it 'cause it didn;t sound like any of his other projects.

Check out The Melvins as well.

[SpiritualBlackDimensions]

Slipknot and GWAR suck equally. :yes:

[Pete Cash]

Originally posted by SpiritualBlackDimensions
Slipknot and GWAR suck equally. :yes:

Slipknot is worse, by far

GWAR is rather inoffensive really... it is a joke anyway.. alians in antartica.... i mean come on

They are the Spinal Tap, of Thrash Metal

[WizoOzz]

Just thought I'd update on my latest purchases...

Two discs for my g/f for her birthday...

Saliva's Back in Your System, which didn't sound half bad from what I skimmed, and Linkin Park's Meteora being that she loves Linkin Park, and it was...well, it was Linkin Park.

But, as we all know, I can't buy two softer albums without some death metal...picked up Bloodbath's Resurrection Through Carnage (side project of Opeth's Mikael Akerfeldt) and it is easily one of the best buys I've had so far this year. Heavier than Opeth, no clean vox...just great, great stuff. The Haunted's One Kill Wonder which is also great...not as good as ...Made Me Do It, but still really good. Also nabbed Cannibal Corpse's Bloodthirst, which is the first album w/ George "Corpsegrinder" Fisher on vocals...it's really good as well...considering I meant to pick up a different Cannibal Corpse album (which I'll be picking up next time I hit the local, and always shitty FYE). Overall, the ones I picked up were awesome, and the ones I picked up for my g/f...well, she liked 'em. Guess that's all that matters.

[Nemesis]

Rrrrgh...I still haven't picked up Bloodbath or the new Haunted, yet I keep having to hear about how good they are...:mad:

But my roommate and I are going to the record store tomorrow...Damnation and a Day is mine. :evilgrin:

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by SpiritualBlackDimensions
Slipknot and GWAR suck equally. :yes:

That's giving Slipknot a bit more credit than they deserve.

GWAR may not be the best band alive (although I buy every CD they put out, in part of some unexplainable phenomenon), but they put a lot more sweat into their live shows than Slipknot. Slipknot beats on bongos while they try to punch each other. GWAR constantly updates their costumes, neglecting profit, and instead, trying to make their stage show even better (Slymenstra Hymen was even quoted as saying that she's sick of eating ramen noodles and paying for new stage props, instead of living comfortably). Slipknot does it for money. GWAR actually does it just to please the small fanbase that they have (whether this is being noble or being stupid is debatable, though, I guess).

Sorry about the ramble, I just think it's unfair to lump GWAR in the same category as Slipknot, I guess. :\

[SpiritualBlackDimensions]

No offense intended. ;). GWAR just get on my nerves, I guess. Or maybe it's the fans who discover GWAR first and tell me "O shit d00d i listen 2 dis kewlz thrash band!"

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I picked up CoB's Follow The Reaper.

Havent listened to it much yet.

Plus my brother has the new opeth which I'll have burnt by tomorrow hopefully.

[Crabby]

Let me know what the new Opeth is like,Dave.

New Deftones is out May 20.

And of course the new Iron Maiden album is being mixed ATM.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

My brother says its damn fine, all acoustic or light guitars and clean vox.

[Crabby]

Anyone else heard the leaked parts from the new Deftones album? Sounds pretty promising,actually.

I'll have to check out the new Opeth then.

Has anyone bought Fear Factory's "Hatefiles" yet?

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Crabby
Has anyone bought Fear Factory's "Hatefiles" yet?

Is that the CD where Dino recorded his parts separately from the rest of the band, because they hate him? Or is that something completely different?

[fear is the mindkiller]

FF started to go downhill after Demanufacture. Obsolete was pretty good but Digimortal blows. Still, I'll be gettin Hatefiles just for the remixes.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I figure I should repost My cd collection since I'm really bored and want some feedback even if I don't have a shortage of albums.

I'll link since it's too big (1280 X 1078) to show on screen for most people.

http://www.boomspeed.com/aussieoutlaw/albumlist.jpg

[Pete Cash]

still don't have the devine wings of tragedy eh

[GameOver!]

I just bought Satyricon vs. Enslaved.

It's a double cover digipak import disc from Norway, released by Moonfog. Beautiful triple foldout casing with lyrics, and fiah. The front is Satyricon lookin' :cool: and the back is Enslaved drenched in a blue haze.

Satyricon: The Forest is my Throne

1. Black Winds
2. The Forest is my Throne
3. Min hyllest Til Vinterland
4. The Night of the Triumphator

Enslaved: Yggdrasill

1. Heimdallr
2. Allfgôr Oôinn
3. Hal Valr
4. Hiunda Heim
5. Resound of Gjallarhorn
6. Enslaved

[NiMMERS]

Originally posted by NiMMERS
Someone reccomend me the quintessential Necrophagia release.

What he said.

[fear is the mindkiller]

Originally posted by The Australian Crippler
still don't have the devine wings of tragedy eh


and good luck finding it. about the only way you can get it is by ordering it off of Amazon.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Not really.

It's in JB Hi-Fi if I want to go and get it.

As well as Metal Mayhem.

So I could go and get it if I felt like buying an album.

[NiMMERS]

Aye. JB is your friend.

I'm looking forward to new SJR which should be coming out some time this year......same thing goes with Sepultura.

I recall asking something about Killswitch Engage and someone said they were good nu-metal. Nu-Metal they aint. Sounds like they're a part of this new wave of melodic metal. I'm digging their epic soundscapes right now.

Another question....what is with people's obsession with the Murderdolls?

[Black Eagle]

This new wave of Melodic Metal as you all call it, is awesome. Plus, considering that i'm fairly new to this genre, there are a shit load of bands that i havn't heard, and i'm slowly discovering. Exciting times lay ahead.

[Crabby]

You need Soilwork's "Natural Born Chaos'.

As far as other sub-genres go, check out some of these-

Machine Head- BME, Iron Maiden- the Number of The Beast and Arise=Sepultura.

[Black Eagle]

Will do. Keep 'em coming.

I'm a fan of:

Dream Evil
In Flames
Killswitch
AIC
Nevermore
Dark Tranquility

[Crabby]

Strapping Young Lad, without a doubt.Alice In Chains is great stuff as well.

Plus some Audioslave would be a welcome addition.

[Black Eagle]

Yeh, i've got the Audioslave album. Some good tunes on it. I've known about SYL for a while, but for some reason, never gotten any of their music. I will go now.

[NiMMERS]

I HIGHLY reccomend 'City' by Strapping Young Lad (but I reccomend anything by Devy). It's in your face and extreme yet accessible.

Get into Soilwork as Crabby said. I find their earlier works more satisfying to the ears, personally.

To get a grip on the pioneers of said new wave of melodic metal. Get some At The Gates. They really set the standard. Combining thrash, death and melody in good proportions.

Tangent. I'm not a huge fan of bands who evolve and change at the expense of compromising the characteristics of what made them interesting in the first place. I hate to bag In Flames but I reckon the vocalist Anders Frieden is a prime example of this. His vocals on recent work barring 'Reroute to Remain' were really intense but on the live scene he sounds a bit weak (but still decent, due to the fact that it still sounds individual), and he adapted his live sound to RTR.

[Crabby]

'I Am The Highway".

Now there's a killer song.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Hmmmmm Soilwork.

Oh and everyone should own a copy of Anthrax's Volume 8 and Motley Crue's greatest hits.

:yes:

[Crabby]

'Inside Out" in particular fucking rules.

I'm guessing the new Anthrax is worth picking up, Dave?

[NiMMERS]

I fucking well traded in 'Decade of Decadence' for some reason when I was 15.

Such a fool.

[Crabby]

I am lookong to pick up the Ocean Machine album ATM, hard to find it seems.I only have albums by SYL as far as Devy's projects go, and I'm looking to extend my collection.I've heard all of them except Punky Brewster, which I think you said is difficult to track down as well.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Uh huh.
Still Vol 8 is the one I prefer so far.

And yes you are a fool.

[Crabby]

Incantation have announced details of their Australian tour, if anyone is interested.

And the Overcranked date in Brisbane has been confirmed,SYL and Skinlab are still strongly rumoured to be headlining in July.Which no doubt means shows elsewhere around the country.

[NiMMERS]

Try JB for a bit of Devy, they have some of his stuff there (well at my local they do).

You live in Sydney dont ya? Try Utopia! That's where one of my mates picked up Punky Bruester.

Keep chasing 'Biomech', you will find it will be worth your while.

[NiMMERS]

Originally posted by Crabby
And the Overcranked date in Brisbane has been confirmed,SYL and Skinlab are still strongly rumoured to be headlining in July.Which no doubt means shows elsewhere around the country.

Oh yes. Praise the lords of chaos.

[Crabby]

I'm near Wollongong, but I'm in Sydney a fair bit, I just haven't visited Utopia in a while. And I don;'t think there's a JB around here.

And of course, the new Tomahawk/Fantomas albums are out soon.

Alchemist are already confirmed to be playing Overcranked.

[NiMMERS]

Sepultura have posted a track of the upcoming 'Roorback' release.

Sounds pretty cool I reckon. Tinged with a bit of that Swedish technical vibe made fashionable by the likes of Meshuggah.

Download it http://www.uol.com.br/sepultura/Sepultura_Mindwar.mp3

[Crabby]

I heard it the other day, sounds pretty cool, I think the new album could be the best album from "the Derrick era" so far.

And I hope they get their arses out here for a tour.

[NiMMERS]

Well I think now they've got a label that believes in them more than the nu-metal loving Roadrunner they should be making a trip down here.

One good thing about Seps drop in popularity is I reckon the tickets wouldnt cost a shitload like in the days of Max. Although the 'Against' tour cost around $60.

[Crabby]

$60 or more seems to be pretty standard these days.Deftones was about $55, though (that was at a smaller venue I guess), and Audioslave was about $65, just for example.

Speaking of Audioslave, Melbourne heavy rock band Warped have scored the support slot.I've heard a little of them, they're okay.I like their song "Figure Four Leg Lock".

[NiMMERS]

One of my mates is going to that gig, the bastard. Only cos his missus blagged a ticket off e-bay or something like that.

I like the budget gigs that cost around $40, Devy, Opeth yada yada all round that price.

[Crabby]

Have you heard the new Tomahawk material yet? Mike Patton has supposedly asked The Mark Of Cain ( ex-Helmet dude John Stainer drums for both bands) to play with them when they make it down here.Now THAT would be fucking awesome.

[NiMMERS]

I havnt even thought of looking for Tomahawk. That'll change soon. The few mp3's I have are awesome.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I went to bed too late, and got up too soon
Boy my head is still spinning from too much booze.
I got a foot in the gutter, a foot in the grave
Haven't seen home in the last 3 days.

/me Runs away before anyone realises what he's listening to.

:$

[NiMMERS]

With those lyrics, I don't want to know.

You know for a split second today I thought of buying 'Accelerated Evolution' by DTB. I've already got one coming on mail order direct from HevyDevy.com. "Surely, it couldnt hurt having 2 copies?!"

[Unbodied]

Originally posted by Crabby
Have you heard the new Tomahawk material yet? Mike Patton has supposedly asked The Mark Of Cain ( ex-Helmet dude John Stainer drums for both bands) to play with them when they make it down here.Now THAT would be fucking awesome. As awesome as that is, it's not nearly as mind-blowing as going to all three Ipecac showcases in New York in May. I'm still not understanding what I'm going to.

And Mit Gas is awesome.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

And this post is because I'm bored.

"The thing was, they had me go down to the record company - I didn't want to go down there, because I get fucking skivvies just fucking going in there, but I went - and they were playing songs by the Offspring and fucking Dave Grohl. I was like, "Fucking shit, I could piss fucking songs better than this!" I was speechless, these songs were a joke - I mean, they wouldn't work well on a fucking Trixter record!" - Zakk Wylde about the song ideas the record label had for Ozzy's new record, Metal Edge, March 2002

"If I ever run into Dave Grohl, I'm gonna kick his fuckin' ass. Because I think he sucks, and he wrote this cheese-dick song for Ozzy that I have to fuckin' play on, and I'll never forgive him for that. Foo Fighters is a fuckin' candyass girl band, but you've got that motherfucker submitting songs, and those douche bags from the Offspring submitting songs, too. I mean, none of thse guys could play a Randy Rhoads solo if they tried. Dave Grohl? Fuck Dave Grohl! Let him get up there and play 'Mr. Crowley'; he can't fuckin' do it. And it's like, you're getting this guy to write songs for Ozzy? Just because he played drums for fucking Shitvana?" - Zakk Wylde, Guitar World, November 2001


"The last time I checked it says 'BLACK FUCKIN' LABEL SOCIETY' back there. There ain't no lame-ass shit like Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, fuckin' Offspring, fuckin' douche-cunts from Bush up here. Make some motherfuckin' noise! Jesus Christ, I had to start this band, cause there's so much pussy-ass, whining shit out there. We gotta stomp that shit out, man. Since when the fuck was it cool to be a fuckin' pussy? I don't get it." - Zakk Wylde, Black Label Society, October 28th, 1999, The Whisky A-Go-Go.


"That's the difference between the lyrics I write and a band like Pearl Jam. For example: Let's say you save up enough dough to buy a fucking case of Raw Ass - it's the worst tasting beer we can buy, but that's all we got the money for - you're out in front of the liquor store, and some guy puts it in the back of his truck and fucking takes off. "Motherfucker! We just lost our beer and the dough!" Eddie Vedder will fucking whine about it, being a pussy, and write a song about being a wuss and how it's crushed his fucking life now cause this asshole drove off with his beer. Come to Black Label, man! What we do is, we get his license plate number, find out where he fuckin' lives, go down, smash his truck with a cinder blocks through the windshield, get the beer, then light his house on fire, get drunk, and write a song about it. That's the way Black Label handles it, man! It's pure fucking comedy at it's best!! - Zakk Wylde, Black Label Society, Metal Edge, December 1999.



"What we're about to do now is a little game we play. It's gonna be a longstanding
tradition here in the Society. I'll pretty much ask you a question, and the response should be, 'FUCK YEAH,' cause if it isn't, we're gonna have to take you out back and beat the livin' fuckin' piss out of you."

Zakk Wylde: Question number one: Do the Backstreet Boys suck some major motherfuckin' horse dick?
Crowd: FUCK YEAH!
Zakk Wylde: Gavin from Bush. If you look like you shower more than three times a day, and have your fuckin' nails manicured, you fuckin' pussy ass piece of shit, you shouldn't be in a fuckin' rock 'n' roll band, am I right?
Crowd: FUCK YEAH!
Zakk Wylde: Next, is Eddie Vedder the whiniest motherfuckin' cunt on this goddamn planet?
Crowd: FUCK YEAH!
Zakk Wylde: Listen, do me a favor, as a friend: If you ever, ever, ehhh-ver (yes, he pulled a Chris Jericho) fuckin' hear me singing like that lame-ass cunt from the Smashing Pumpkins, Billy Corgan..."Today is..." SHUT THE FUCK UP, MOTHERFUCKER! If you ever hear me singing me like that, I'm friends with Mike Piazza, I'm gonna give you one of his fuckin' bats, and beat the fuckin' piss out of me! Would you do it?
Crowd: FUCK YEAH!
Zakk Wylde: Thank you. What are friends for? Next: The Goo Goo Dolls. Jesus Christ. If you name your fuckin' band "The Goo Goo Dolls," fuck that shit, man! What the fuck are you thinking? You deserve a can of whoop-ass if you name your band the Goo Goo Dolls!
Crowd: FUCK YEAH!
ZW: Last but not least, how good would Britney Spears look with a 12-inch cock in her mouth, am I right?
Crowd: FUCK YEAH!
- Zakk Wylde, Black Label Society, October 28th, 1999, Whisky A-Go-Go

[NiMMERS]

Nimmers: Is Zakk Wylde taking the heavy metal cliche a few continents too far? Does Zakk Wylde have trouble comprehending the concept of 'Live and let Live'?
Crowd: FUCK YEAH!

[SpiritualBlackDimensions]

Celtic Frost are working on a new album!

:headbang:

Celtic Frost have made available for exclusive use via www.celticfrost.com one of the demos for the new album currently in the works.

The song is called "Ground", written in 2002/2003. It is important to remember that the version available here is a mere pre-production demo, recorded at the band's rehearsal space in Zurich, Switzerland, earlier this year. Pre-production demos are used to further develop material and to showcase new music to producers, engineers, and the band's industry partners.

The final version of "Ground", to be released on the forthcoming album, features new instrument and vocal tracks, recorded in a proper studio environment and resulting in a much better overall production and sound quality.

Download at www.celticfrost.com

[NiMMERS]

Can't complain about a Celtic Frost return!

So I went out and bought Necrophagia's 'The Divine Art of Torture', and I must say it SHITS over the Anselmo era of the band. Or maybe I listened to a duff album of theirs. Oh and I was lucky enough to find the first Tomahawk album....but no 'Mit Gas'.

[SpiritualBlackDimensions]

Didn't have you down as a CF fan there Nimmers. I'm surprised, pleasantly. :cool:

[Nemesis]

Man, it's been a long time since I posted in here. Since then I got the new Mayhem and the new CoF. Mayhem's CD is pretty weird, but I can't stop listening to it. I think that CD or Immortal gets played most of the time in my car. The new CoF is okay. I like it better than Dusk and Her Embrace, but not near as much as Cruelty and the Beast. It'll probably grow on me.

Now I'm just waiting for the new batch of CDs I ordered:

Children of Bodom - Something Wild (Deluxe Edition)
Gorelord - Force Fed on Human Flesh
Dark Funeral - Diabolus Interium
Unlord - Lord of Beneath

...god damn, Amazon metal lists kick ass. :shifty: That's where I mostly hear new stuff from, lately. :\

I'll I need now is the new Anthrax and Nothingface CDs, and some Dissection. Then I can relax from buying CDs for a while. I've been spending way too much money on them lately.


Oh, speaking of Celtic Frost, Tom G. Warrior is supposed to sing on Dave Grohl's Probot album, along with Cronos, Lemmy, Phil Anselmo, and some other guys that I forget now. I bet this supposed death metal CD ends up being a lot better than the new Metallica. Call it a blind hunch.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Didn't think I'd be awake did you? 5am and all.

Hmmmmmmm good CoB - SW is awesome.

Last night I saw 'Rock Star', that damned movie. It would be a good movie if they cut out the whole morality and the fact he had a girlfriend and all the shit she makes him feel. If they keep in the arena scenes, the idolising scenes, the whole being trashed scenes and the idiocy scenes then they'd have a film that would be awesome.

But it's average, when I want a rock star movie I want something that makes me wanna go and drink a shitload not something which makes me go 'ohhhhhhhh' since he fell for the dumb bitch. they tried to stick a romantic bullshitiness in.

But the music is awesome. Geat original tracks. Oh and Zakk Wylde without a beard and his pathetic attempts at a British accent.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
Oh and Zakk Wylde without a beard and his pathetic attempts at a British accent.

:lol: If his extremely limited acting on that one gets his foot in the door for more movie appearances, I'm going to laugh. It's funny how they just made him stand around most of the time, since they probably didn't want him saying anything, anyway.

I agree with you about the movie, though. It seems like they really tried to make a good rock movie, but they kind of crapped it up by throwing in all the sappy Hollywood stuff.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I knew he wrote some of the Steel Dragon songs before I watched the movie and half way through it I sat up and went "Is that Zakk Wylde?", and when I realised it was, since he plays the same on stage there as he normally does, which is kinda weird for an 80's band ripped from Judas Priest.

It's just hard to recognise him without the beard.

But yeah it seems like there were two different writers, a rock writer and a hollywood writer and the hollywood writer should have been killed before he was allowed to put pen to paper.

[Ringo]

If Shadows Fall have already been talked about in this thread then I'm sorry.. But I was just wondering If anyone likes them, or thinks I should buy the new album from them, 'The Art Of Balance'. i've heard one track from them and I have to say , they sound pretty good. What does everyone else think?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Don't worry we recycle the same topics all the time.

It's too early and Shadows Fall don't come to mind.

[Ringo]

Oh well, here In England there is a huge buzz about them, If you can find anything by them I seriously recommend them.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by The Ringmaster
If Shadows Fall have already been talked about in this thread then I'm sorry.. But I was just wondering If anyone likes them, or thinks I should buy the new album from them, 'The Art Of Balance'. i've heard one track from them and I have to say , they sound pretty good. What does everyone else think?

The Art of Balance is ok...the only song that really seems to stand out is "Stepping Outside the Circle," IMO. That was the first song I heard from the new one, and the rest of the CD is somewhat of a letdown by comparison. The riffs on most of the other songs are less memorable. You would probably be better off getting one of their older CDs, though.

[NiMMERS]

Shadows Fall are decent enough, although I think they don't deserve they hype they are getting these days.


Originally posted by SpiritualBlackDimensions
Didn't have you down as a CF fan there Nimmers. I'm surprised, pleasantly. :cool:

Heheh, gotta give props to true pioneers when they're due, dude. Nothing wrong with CF.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

You people know what I'm obsessed with already.

Megadeth.com April 9th.

Droogies, Well it has been a year since the official break-up of Megadeth or what some other people are calling (or hoping was) the temporary suspension of the band's procedings.

I wanted to tell you that over the last year there has been a lot of contact between all the band members of Megadeth from the past and, excluding Gar, everyone is still alive and well, whether it was me contacting them, or the others talking amongst themselves.

We have all stayed in contact somehow with someone Megadeth, and even though there may not be any reunion on the immediate horizon, just know that we've talked. Also, as we approach our 20th anniversary, one thing that we all still remember is 'how' we got to the top.

It was because of you.

Stay tuned.

Mustaine sez,
GOODBYE DROOGIES

oooooooooooooo I like.

[NiMMERS]

Droogie.

Is that suppose to be Druggy except pronounced in a shitty pommy accent?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Is that meant to be a bad joke?

BAH I'll explain anyway.

Clockwork orange, watch it.
Droogie = friend.

Oh and Dark Saga = :headbang:

[Pete Cash]

I thought a droogie was more of a follower

like the other three were alex's droogies..... meh whatever, small point really :)

[Nemesis]

Has anyone on here seen Hellraiser III? It was on last night. There was a club scene where I was absolutely sure that I was hearing John Bush's voice, and sure enough, it showed Armored Saint playing. I tried to find out which song it was in the end credits, but the digital cable fucked up during the last half hour of the movie.

[Crabby]

You can probably find it on-

www.imdb.com

[QuietStorm]

Does anyone know anything about Stratovarius? Would Elements, Pt. 1 be a good place to start? Especially with the cover artwork by Derek Riggs. It's gotta be good then huh? Oh well. I am downloading the album right now. We'll see if it is buy-worthy.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Crabby
You can probably find it on-

www.imdb.com

Already tried. There's no credits of them in the movie on there.

I tried a couple of other sites, and one of them said the song is "The Pillar," but that's wrong. That might've been the song they made for the soundtrack (that didn't appear on it, anyway), but it wasn't the song they were playing on the movie.

[Crabby]

Try a major search engine or find the band's official discography.You'd most likely find it there.

[Nemesis]

I already did.

Oh well. *shrug*

[Crabby]

Has anyone else heard 'Minerva", the new Deftones song? It's pretty impressive IMO, I look forward to the self-titled album.

[Alex E]

Originally posted by UMDeepTerp
Does anyone know anything about Stratovarius? Would Elements, Pt. 1 be a good place to start? Especially with the cover artwork by Derek Riggs. It's gotta be good then huh? Oh well. I am downloading the album right now. We'll see if it is buy-worthy.

As with all good bands, they change their sound over time and evolve. Personally, I'd go for Episode or Infinite.

[Nemesis]

"Black Diamond" by Stratovarius is the only song I've heard. Pretty good, actually.

Are you an Iced Earth or Hammerfall fan, by chance? :yes:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Playing With Fire and most of Strat's destiny is a nice album.

As is Kamelot's Karma, Blind Guardian's Imaginations

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by Crabby
Has anyone else heard 'Minerva", the new Deftones song? It's pretty impressive IMO, I look forward to the self-titled album.

I downloaded some sort of live recording. The song is pretty good, but the sound isn't the best. Sort of destorted. I'll wait until it's properlly released before making proper judgement.

[Crabby]

Everyone in this thread should check out Cog.Awesome progressive heavy rock act form Sydney that Nimmers and I have discussed before.I just picked up their "Just Visiting Part 2" EP and I can't recommend it highly enough.Rock.

[NiMMERS]

Hell yeah. Can't sing their praises enough. Hard to believe they havnt taken off like I expect them too sooner or later.

Oh yeah.........FRANKENBOK on the 8th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Crabby]

I haven't seen/heard Frankenbok since they recruited their new vocalist,I'll have to check them out if they make it down this way.

What's the new Devin Townsend Band album like?

[NiMMERS]

I'm sure this new dude Adam B. Metal will be suitably like ol Hutch (I hope).

New Devin? It's awesome...he's back to writing songs and they're really fucking catchy. I can understand why he almost called the album 'Relationship'. I can relate to some of the lyrics. Good shit worth checking out seriously.

[Nemesis]

Hey Outlaw (whenever you read this), you were right. 'Rust in Peace' is fucking awesome. I found it at a used CD store today, along with some other stuff (why someone would get rid of Amorphis, Napalm Death, Necrophagia and Amon Amarth is beyond me). Though Peace Sells is still my favorite, nothing touches Rust technically. The songs I liked before are still my favorite ones, but I really like the rest of the CD, too.

...and here I was thinking I was weird, or something...:dunce:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I thought you owned RIP?

Ah well you do now.

The greatness of Megadeth lives throughout the ages.

Brilliance I say, Brilliance.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Iced Earth News:

Jon Schaffer is stoked about the potential of the forthcoming album,
including the 32 minute (?) epic, 'Gettysburg'. "We are going to do it as a
free DVD, in Dolby 5.1 surround sound. I wrote parts of the song specifically for that. There will be battle sounds, cavalry, cannons will be fired behind you, then explode in front. It will be cool to have a drum roll that goes around your head. It took me a while to persuade SPV to allow me to do this. I'm not sure if it will be included with the new album, or you'll get a coupon, so they can send it to you later."
"I'm a Civil War re-inactor, so there was talk of the band dressing up, with
my unit, but right now, I think there won't be any visuals on the screen,
while the music is playing. Maybe an explanation that I'll also put in the
liner notes, to tell what the long instrumental passages mean, 'This is where the Confederate army is... This is the retreat through the town.' When we do the real Iced Earth DVD, we'll do something (visual), but this is already going to be a VERY expensive freebie."

"We starting mixing at Morrissound on May 19th and have it booked until the 30th. The final master has to be delivered (to SPV), by June 1. Normally we only take a few days, but we've got to do the stereo mix of 'Gettysburg' and the 5.1, that's why we need so much time. Morrissound doesn't even have the equipment for the 5.1 mix. They have to rent it."
Glorious Burden, the debut for new label SPV, is expected this Fall.

Double Disc Live Edguy in June.

Dream Theater have been in the studio since March 10th.

Talking about Dream Theater:

You begged, you hoped, you pleaded, you prayed! And now I'm happy to announce that your prayers have finally been answered. This summer, Queensryche is set to hit the road with none other than Dream Theater! In 50/50 co-headlining tour to begin this June, one thing's for sure... this WILL be the tour to see this summer. Next to the return of Chris DeGarmo has the news has bigger than this. And if you think the pairing up of these two bands was good enough, Fates Warning will be their special guest. Tour dates will be announced shortly. So stay tuned, there's a lot more to come, just you wait!


New Nevermore (Enemies of Reality) on June 17th in US and June 24th in Europe.

Iron Maiden have released American tour dates till early August, still no Aussie dates yet.

Also does anyone actually have the new MachineHead live album?

And I'm lead to believe new Anthrax comes out in the US on the 6/5, which is Tuesday.

And on weird shit I'm listening to, currently sits in ProgPower Land with things like Pagan's Mind, Circle II Circle, Evergrey, Mercenary, Redemption, Vanden Plas, Angra, Angel Dust, Superior , Threshold, Pain Of Salvation, Kamelot, Stratovarious and of course the old favourites as well as a nice doseage of Hair and basically most things.

I should get my own radio show.

[Crabby]

Originally posted by NiMMERS
Hell yeah. Can't sing their praises enough. Hard to believe they havnt taken off like I expect them too sooner or later.

Cog are playing at my uni in a few weeks,I'll have to go catch them again.Don't know if they're touring around the place or not.

[NiMMERS]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Human Nature devoured 'TNT'! I heard it on JJJ this arvo......I dunno whether to keep laughing or to start crying.

[Crabby]

Didn't they do that as part of "Andrew Denton's Musical Challenge" on Triple- M?

Regardless, destroying an AC/DC classic like that is unforgivable, though that techno remox of "Thunderstruck" was worse.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Time for me to bang my drum about Warmachine.

Remember them? No? Well you should.

Greatest thing since Megadeth, and that was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

You know it's true once you've heard some tracks

http://www.warmachineonline.com/download.htm

Beginning of the End, What A Pretty Picture, Eye For An Eye, Dust To Dust are all quality tracks.

Why they're not signed to a major lable I don't know.

[Nemesis]

Has anyone been to The Grimoire? (www.thegrimoire.com) The interviews are fucking hilarious.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Sorry I'm just reading the 3-Wind on Metal Sludge.

Scott Ian's opinion of Avril (10. Rate following chicks on a scale of 1 to 10. 1 being a horrible mess and 10 being the ultimate hottie.):
Avril Lavigne = I don't know. I don't think 9 year olds are sexy.

Oh and They've almost inked their contract to Sanctuary.

Scott Ian's opinion of Dave Mustaine: wish he was still around.

[SideburnZ]

The chick from Lacuna Coil, Christina Scabbia, I wanna bang her.

:drool:

[SideburnZ]

Umm...

Any of you like Cryptopsy?

I picked up None So Vile while banned. I love it. :heart:

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by SideburnZ
Any of you like Cryptopsy?



Only heard a few songs, but they're good.




I'm trying to decide whether to buy a Dissection album or the Tony Hawk game for PS2.

New Anthrax tomorrow. :headbang:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

New Anthrax last Febuary :headbang: :tongue:

[SideburnZ]

Buy the game, download the album for now.

Dissection...think I'd like em? :chin: Reccomend me an album to get of theirs, if so.

[Nemesis]

The CD I want is 'Storm of the Light's Bane.' They have "Where Dead Angels Lie" available for dl on this site (www.nuclearblast.de) somewhere.

You suck, Outlaw. :mad: :p

[Crabby]

Originally posted by SideburnZ
The chick from Lacuna Coil, Christina Scabbia, I wanna bang her.

:drool:

She is quite a looker, huh?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

NEW SOILWORK!

I just found out, god damn I'm slow.

Figure Number Five
1. Rejection Role
2. Overload
3. Figure Number Five
4. Strangler
5. Light The Torch
6. Departure Plan
7. Cranking The Sirens
8. Brickwalker
9. The Mindmaker
10. Distortion Sleep
11. Downfall 24

I want now. I'll prolly go and out and find it, hopefully it'll be out.

[Nemesis]

Soilwork kicks ass.

You notice how when In Flames changed their sound, they got a lot of shit, but Soilwork has been praised when they softened up theirs? Hmm...probably because 'A Predator's Portrait' and 'Natural Born Chaos' were a lot better than 'Clayman' and 'Reroute to Remain.'

[Aussie_Outlaw]

NBC killed RtR

Seriously, still I don't own a copy of Clayman though so I can't complain. But Soilwork kept a piece of heavyness/difference that In Flames lost when they softened their sound, I don't know how to describe it but Soilwork remained heavy.

FNF is in the same vain as NBC. Very good IMO.

Clocks just under 37 minutes.

Soilwork and Dream Evil have a work ethic like no other.

[Crabby]

You lucky Brisbanites, Overcranked 3 line-up looks pretty damn good-

Skinlab,Superheist, Blood Duster, Segression, Damaged, Alchemist, Jerk,Toe to Toe, Hollow, Frankenbok, Astriaal, Sakkuth, Post-Life Disorder,Giants of Science, D-nine, Japunga, King Mungi, Forte, Contrive, Ochre,Blunt Object, Razel,, Bolus, Mourningtide, Brace, Daysend, Portal, S.Chopper, 8 Ft. Sativa(NZ), Minus Life,Headkase, Fulcrum, Clauz, LynchMada,
Necrosculpture, Soraatu, Primal Mask.

No Strapping Young Lad,though,unfortunately.

[Nemesis]

Compared to In Flames, Soilwork seems to have better melodies these days. It's kind of sad to see a band that came out with a brilliant song like "Moonshield" just go down the crapper. :(

Hey, have you heard Soilwork's 'Chainheart Machine' or 'Steelbath Suicide' albums yet? I'm curious as to how they sound compared to the newer stuff.

Edit: I just listened to the title track from the new album on the Nuclear Blast website. :eek: Holy shit, that was pretty heavy compared to what they had on APP and NBC. :yes: I just hope they haven't lost too much melody on the new album, since that's what they're best at.

[Crabby]

Tomahawk Australian tour dates to be announced soon.

Hope they bring The Melvins along with them, they fucking rocked when I caught them with Tool.

[NiMMERS]

I heard FNF is Soilwork's RtR . The trademark razor sharp guitars are swallowed by keyboards...kind of playing 2nd string to them and I aint down with that. I'll still check it out.

I can't find 'Mit Gas' anywhere. Is it out over here?

[Crabby]

I don't think it's out here for another week or so, though I'm yet to find a definite answer there.

I'm guessing you're enjoying Tomahawk's self-titled? Damn good album that.Rock.

[NiMMERS]

Damn yeah. Picked up some good shit recently.

-Necrophagia
-DTB
-Tomahawk
-Celtic Frost

[Crabby]

Shame there's no SYL on the Overcranked bill, though they should be out here sometime soon.

Do you know the new Sepultura's release date?

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by NiMMERS
Damn yeah. Picked up some good shit recently.

-Necrophagia


I just found 'The Divine Art of Torture' recently. Kickass album. I like how the production gives it a creepy, grimy atmosphere. You can't really pick out every single drum beat, but it still adds to the album. "Sick Room" rules.

[NiMMERS]

Yeah the production for it is awesome. Very dirty and raw and it fits like a glove. Stand out tracks for me are 'Blaspheme the Body' and 'Conjuring the Unnamable'.

Sepultura release date? No idea! I heard July but I'd expect later than that.

It's a shame that Devy won't tour down here very often. Australia was on the first markets who embraced him with his initial ascendance in the metal genre.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

OOOO I'm back with more Metallica bashing.

Anyone else pick where the Metallica song Frantic originates from?

Perhaps you haven't heard the new anthrax album yet.

Both intros for What Doesn't Die and Frantic are god damn similiar. Cept the Thrax version Charlie plays with his feet and Lars, well Lars can't play that well, well Lars can't play very well so he's reduced to playing with his hands.

Still there is some resemblence with Fuel and Fueled, just with Fuel having more of a polish.


And I've come to the decision after having the album since March 17th that the Anthrax album does indeed fucking own. Brilliant Hard Rock.

Charlie's drumming is awesome.

[Nemesis]

Lars has always been overrated, IMO.

So he did that double bass shit on "One." So what?

...still listening to 'Rust in Peace.' I can't believe I didn't even like "Hangar 18" before. That song kicks some serious ass. And "Take No Prisoners" has some insane riffing, among others.

I guess when I first bought it, I was more concerned with glitzy production than technical ability. The more I keep listeniing to this CD, the more I like it. :cool:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Tornado Of Souls blows anything else that was done by Metallica far, far away.

[SideburnZ]

I got Cradle of Filths Damnation and a Day yesterday...

Its not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. They get lots of shit for going on a big label or whatever...but meh...I like this album. Just as hard, just as fast.

However, its obvious they were going for like a big epic black metal album...and that didnt work. Its awesome...but its not that awesome. As far as Cof albums go...its immense. As far as black metal albums go...its ok.

COF fans will love it. :yes:

[SideburnZ]

Originally posted by Nemesis
Lars has always been overrated, IMO.

So he did that double bass shit on "One." So what?

...still listening to 'Rust in Peace.' I can't believe I didn't even like "Hangar 18" before. That song kicks some serious ass. And "Take No Prisoners" has some insane riffing, among others.

I guess when I first bought it, I was more concerned with glitzy production than technical ability. The more I keep listeniing to this CD, the more I like it. :cool:


I didnt like the album all that much at first...now, like 2 months later, its one of my favorites. The whole thing totally grew on me.

[Nemesis]

Damnation is as boring as Dusk, IMO (but don't take my word for it, since everyone loves Dusk). It's got several standout songs, but the riffs are a little boring. CoF will never top 'Cruelty and the Beast,' IMO. I just wonder where their "Maiden-esque" riffs went.

/me sports his CoF red longsleeve shirt :cool:

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by SideburnZ
I didnt like the album all that much at first...now, like 2 months later, its one of my favorites. The whole thing totally grew on me.


Thank you! Maybe I won't get shit for being the guy that didn't first like Rust in Peace anymore. :scared:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

http://www.metal-sludge.com/RING-FINAL.jpg
Parody of LOTR I did for a t-shirt but the lawyers killed it. Even had the lyrics to "Anyplace But Here" in elf script on the ring. Oh well, I guess we'd have gotten sued by Hobbits. - Brent Thompson (webmaster of Anthrax.com)

Tell me that wouldnt have made a great T-Shirt.

[SideburnZ]

Originally posted by Nemesis
Damnation is as boring as Dusk, IMO (but don't take my word for it, since everyone loves Dusk). It's got several standout songs, but the riffs are a little boring. CoF will never top 'Cruelty and the Beast,' IMO. I just wonder where their "Maiden-esque" riffs went.

/me sports his CoF red longsleeve shirt :cool:

Cruelty and Midian are my favorites, I also loved Bitter Suites...although EVERYONE disagrees with me there. :ashamed:

/me sports his CoF Bitter Suites shirt :cool:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by Nemesis
Thank you! Maybe I won't get shit for being the guy that didn't first like Rust in Peace anymore. :scared:

Hell RIP grew on me also.

I always liked Hangar and Tornado and Prisoners, then Holy Wars got to me, Lucretia has a great laugh at the start and an awesome riff and solos.

Then it sat on the good albums but not great, and I finally realised there were only 3 tracks that I never really listened to so i did and they were fucking awesome. I listened to em properly and loved it.

So it went straight to number one. Well Dawn Patrol is average but it's only 2 min long.

[Nemesis]

Bitter Suites was awesome. The whole thing. I don't see why everyone bitches about it, either.

[SideburnZ]

Anyone heard the new Children of Bodom?

I'm gonna cream the second I get that. I cant wait. :drool:

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
Hell RIP grew on me also.

I always liked Hangar and Tornado and Prisoners, then Holy Wars got to me, Lucretia has a great laugh at the start and an awesome riff and solos.

Then it sat on the good albums but not great, and I finally realised there were only 3 tracks that I never really listened to so i did and they were fucking awesome. I listened to em properly and loved it.

So it went straight to number one. Well Dawn Patrol is average but it's only 2 min long.

Peace Sells is still my favorite. It's what took me from being a casual listener to a fan.

But I'm just now learning that RIP, in a technical sense, rips everything else to shreds.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by SideburnZ
Anyone heard the new Children of Bodom?

I'm gonna cream the second I get that. I cant wait. :drool:

I just got 'Something Wild" in the mail not too long ago. But I'm definitely buying the new one, too. "Triple Corpse Hammerblow" is an awesome name for a song, no matter what anyone else says.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

And the fact SFSGSW is basically RIP +PS put together which makes for a fucking awesome album.

Also the good thing is that the albums aren't 600minutes long which means you can listen to them easily in a sitting. Sometimes with 72minute albums, you realise about 1/4 of it is filler.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by Nemesis
I just got 'Something Wild" in the mail not too long ago. But I'm definitely buying the new one, too. "Triple Corpse Hammerblow" is an awesome name for a song, no matter what anyone else says.

Something Wild is decent.

Even if I haven't listened to it for awhile it's like COF, with more emphasis on Melody than Death Metal while still remaining heavy. Also the orchastrations are awesome.

[SideburnZ]

Originally posted by Nemesis
I just got 'Something Wild" in the mail not too long ago. But I'm definitely buying the new one, too. "Triple Corpse Hammerblow" is an awesome name for a song, no matter what anyone else says.


Something Wild is insanely great.

I've only recently began to REALLY dig their other albums. :heart:Hatebreeder:heart:


That is an awesome name. I still think Cannibal Corpse and Gorelord have the best song names though. "Necrophilic Orgy in Entrails and Cum". I mean come on. Thats AWESOME.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
And the fact SFSGSW is basically RIP +PS put together which makes for a fucking awesome album.

Also the good thing is that the albums aren't 600minutes long which means you can listen to them easily in a sitting. Sometimes with 72minute albums, you realise about 1/4 of it is filler.

I see your point. RIP has a lot of intros, it seems like. I just want to hear the rest of the song. It's good for building the song up the first time you hear it, but it's just filler after that.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by SideburnZ
That is an awesome name. I still think Cannibal Corpse and Gorelord have the best song names though. "Necrophilic Orgy in Entrails and Cum". I mean come on. Thats AWESOME.

Gorelord fan? Frediablo fucking shreds.

Notice how most of the song titles off the debut sound like a menu for the most fucked up restaurant ever? (Dismembered Virgin Limbs, Crucified Goat Drenched in Blasphemous Blood, etc.)

[Aussie_Outlaw]

No I wasn't say RIP has filler, for gods sake, the album is almost spotless.

But with some Maiden releases and the latest DT disc, contain a fair bit of filler.

SFSGSW is a good composite between RIP and PS.

RIp clocks 46 minutes, it's hardly long enough to contain filler.
SFSGSW is 34 and PS is 36.

[SideburnZ]

The song titles make me hungry...and horny. :ashamed:

I only have their debut album. I cant seem to find their newer one anywhere.

Same with ANY Necrophagia. Stores I go to dont have it. Pissing me the fuck off.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
No I wasn't say RIP has filler, for gods sake, the album is almost spotless.



Well, you know the intro on "Poison Was the Cure," for example? It sounds like the soundtrack for a double agent sneaking into the top secret badguy HQ, or something. It's good for dynamics, but after a while I just want to skip it and get to the rest of the song.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by SideburnZ
The song titles make me hungry...and horny. :ashamed:

I only have their debut album. I cant seem to find their newer one anywhere.

Same with ANY Necrophagia. Stores I go to dont have it. Pissing me the fuck off.

The record store in my town does. :headbang:

Look on www.theendrecords.com or www.redstream.net. I know The End has some really cheap prices, and shipping is free. And fast.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by Nemesis
Well, you know the intro on "Poison Was the Cure," for example? It sounds like the soundtrack for a double agent sneaking into the top secret badguy HQ, or something. It's good for dynamics, but after a while I just want to skip it and get to the rest of the song.

Yeah PWTC and 5M have bloody long intros.

WAIT...

STOP MAKING ME HATE MY FAVOURITE ALBUM :$

Still I'd rather listen to the intro than anything on Commercial radio.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
Still I'd rather listen to the intro than anything on Commercial radio.

That's true. All the stations here play either booty music or country, and nothing else.

[SideburnZ]

Ohh...thanks Nems. I'll be ordering CD's today.


I checked BlackestoftheBlack.com :( Still no dates here.

That'd be kickass for my first concert to be Nile, Lacuna Coil, Behemoth, Nile AND Danzig. :drool:

[Nemesis]

Isn't Blackest of the Black only playing like 2 dates this year? :confused:

[SideburnZ]

I dont even know. I check every so often to see if Boston or anywhere close is on their.

:(

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by Nemesis
That's true. All the stations here play either booty music or country, and nothing else.

Rap/Hip-Hop and Rock are big here. Rock I can tolerate just.

Plus where I stay the heaviest they go is Metallica, and half the guys just realised there was a new Metallica album coming.

Most people here listen to shit like Reel Big Fish and those Ska type things.

[Nemesis]

I heard they're only playing LA and Phoenix this year, for a sort of test run for next year.

And I was pissed enought that I couldn't take vacation time for Halford's tour, the one that Immortal was on...:irked:

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
Rap/Hip-Hop and Rock are big here. Rock I can tolerate just.

Plus where I stay the heaviest they go is Metallica, and half the guys just realised there was a new Metallica album coming.

Most people here listen to shit like Reel Big Fish and those Ska type things.

There's a really underground metal following in my town. There's a good group of people that like the heavy shit, but you'll never see them in public, only at the local shows. :confused:

[SideburnZ]

I got about 190 bucks to waste.

Reccomend me some shit.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

KEA


Vol 8, Persistance.

Cept you won't find Vol8 at all. You'll have to download it.

[Nemesis]

Don't know if you've already heard any of this stuff, but here's the stuff I've heard recently that's pretty good...

Dying Fetus - Destroy the Opposition
Dissection - Storm of the Light's Bane/Where Dead Angels Lie
Mayhem - Grand Declaration of War or Wolf Lair Abyss
Unlord - Lord of Beneath
Amon Amarth - The Crusher
Carcass - Necroticism: Descanting the Insolubrious
Cannibal Corpse - Bloodthirst

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
KEA

Cept you won't find Vol8 at all. You'll have to download it.

I heard that since Ignition went under, it's really hard to find. And my 8 is scratched to all hell. "Born Again Idiot" is completely ruined. :cry:

[SideburnZ]

Yes, KEA is on my list.

I wanna get a Dark Tranquility album too. I heard a song by them...pretty cool.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by Nemesis
There's a really underground metal following in my town. There's a good group of people that like the heavy shit, but you'll never see them in public, only at the local shows. :confused:

Yeah there's no-one here but I just ended up chatting to a few guys at Uni who are into it, just ended up sittin at the same table during lunch so we got talking.

I ended up getting 2.1GB of Music from one guy a month or so back, and I see him around Uni about 2wice a week and we sit and chat about what each other is into. There's another guy who is in one of my classes who's a major Priest/maiden mark so we get tlaking about that.

I may as well add I don't go a massive Uni (I couldn't stand it). I can walk from one corner of the campus to the other in about 8 minutes. It's a smaller Uni than some of the massive ones in the city where about 10,000 people go to but it has a good IT reputation.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Originally posted by Nemesis
I heard that since Ignition went under, it's really hard to find. And my 8 is scratched to all hell. "Born Again Idiot" is completely ruined. :cry:

It is almost impossible to find in the US, however in Australia I can almost walk into any half decent Metal store and there'll be a copy. I found mine with ease.

Plus the booklet in the Album is awesome. Having a 50's type movie poster which is about 36cm by 24cm and lyrics and a huge collection of Anthrax pictures on the back. Beautiful.

[SideburnZ]

Originally posted by Nemesis
Don't know if you've already heard any of this stuff, but here's the stuff I've heard recently that's pretty good...

Dying Fetus - Destroy the Opposition
Dissection - Storm of the Light's Bane/Where Dead Angels Lie
Mayhem - Grand Declaration of War or Wolf Lair Abyss
Unlord - Lord of Beneath
Amon Amarth - The Crusher
Carcass - Necroticism: Descanting the Insolubrious
Cannibal Corpse - Bloodthirst


I've only heard Cannibal Corpse.

Mind telling me what the others are like?

/me checks prices at TheEnd

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Aussie_Outlaw
Yeah there's no-one here but I just ended up chatting to a few guys at Uni who are into it, just ended up sittin at the same table during lunch so we got talking.

I ended up getting 2.1GB of Music from one guy a month or so back, and I see him around Uni about 2wice a week and we sit and chat about what each other is into. There's another guy who is in one of my classes who's a major Priest/maiden mark so we get tlaking about that.

I may as well add I don't go a massive Uni (I couldn't stand it). I can walk from one corner of the campus to the other in about 8 minutes. It's a smaller Uni than some of the massive ones in the city where about 10,000 people go to but it has a good IT reputation.

At least you have people at your college that are into decent music. The fuckers around here want to listen to Margaritaville and American Pie all the time.

I just remembered I have 2 semi-rare CDs: The original 'Killing is My Business...' CD and the European import of GWAR'S Hell-o (with a killer demo of "Black and Huge").

/me flexes muscles

[SideburnZ]

People here like Eminem and Nelly. :nono:

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by SideburnZ
Mind telling me what the others are like?



:mad:

Okay.

Dying Fetus is a lot like CC, only more technically sound and politically oriented. Hell, if you like them, get some Napalm Death, too.

Dissection is black metal. Some good melodies there. (A band member got imprisoned for killing an immigrant gay guy :wtf:)

Mayhem's GDoW is really avant-garde, like the Tool of Black Metal. It's got some good shit, but Wolf Lair Abyss is heavier.

Amon Amarth has been described as viking death metal. The songs I've heard from 'The Crusher' are based on Odinism and Thor and stuff. The stuff they play reminds me of war.

Carcass' Necroticism CD is supposed to be a heavy influence for gore metal. The Heartwork and Swansong CDs are good too, but none of the 3 sound alike.

[SideburnZ]

Hahahah...made you type stuff. :cool:

I shall check them out. :yes:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I have the original KIMB...ABIG cd also.

And I have the Japanese Versions of CW, Youth, Breadline.

And I own wayyyy too many LTd Edition cds.

[Nemesis]

The way I've been buying CDs lately, I'd really be in a world of financial shit if I bought Japanese CDs.

I'm really looking for the songs that were released with "No More Mr. Nice Guy," though. To my knowledge, those are the only songs that weren't released on a full length.

...unless "Crown of Worms" wasn't, either. I don't have that one.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Well Jap cds were the same Price here since they're just imported like Euro cds.

Are you talking about Hidden Treasures?

Crown of Worms was on the Jap version of Youthanasia. New World Order was on the Japanese version of Hidden Treasures, One Thing was on the Japanese version of Cryptic Writings.

Then you have the breadline Special Edition which was only released in Japan and contains the remixes, besides two Almost Honest Remixes which were on the Double Disc Jap release of Cryptic Writings (Disc II) which was Live Trax II.

[Crabby]

Originally posted by SideburnZ
I got about 190 bucks to waste.

Reccomend me some shit.

Strapping Young Lad- City,Heavy As A Really Heavy Thing,SYL.
Ocean Machine- Biomech.
Fantomas- Self-Titled,The Director's Cut.
Mr Bungle- Self-Titled.
Judas Priest- Ram It Down!, Screaming For Vengeance.
Opeth- Blackwater Park,Deliverance.
Deftones- Around The Fur.

[Nemesis]

Oh. I guess I forgot about remixes, and the other 2 bonus songs.

Over here, Japanese imports are a lot more expensive than the European imports. I think it's anywhere between $30 and $50.

Are the extra songs worth getting? (I hope not, since the last thing I need is an excuse to buy even more CDs)

[SideburnZ]

Originally posted by Crabby

Strapping Young Lad- City,Heavy As A Really Heavy Thing,SYL.
Ocean Machine- Biomech.
Shall check out.

Fantomas- Self-Titled,The Director's Cut.
Planned on it. :yes:

Mr Bungle- Self-Titled.
Got it.

Judas Priest- Ram It Down!, Screaming For Vengeance.
:chin: Maybe.

Opeth- Blackwater Park,Deliverance.
Got em.

Deftones- Around The Fur.
:chin: no.

[Nemesis]

Hey Crabby...how is SYL's live CD compared to the rest? It's the only SYL I own. I've been thinking about getting some more of their CDs, but I'm not sure what to get. I really like "Oh My Fucking God" and "Far Beyond Metal."

[NiMMERS]

Go for 'City'. In my honest opinion it's one of the greatest metal albums of all time.

For solo Devy check out his Ocean Machine project, Infinity and Terria for starters.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Burnz you said you'd seen either the new Soilwork or new In Flames videos. Well they make alot more sense if you see them both.

Ok I got the new videos for Soilwork's Rejection Role and In Flames' Trigger.

Basically they're both set in the same basemen club and the other band is heckleing the band on stage, Then both bands go and fight. Basically it's from the other band's perspective.

Took me a few watches to realise It was soilwork harassing In Flames and vise versa. Quite funny.

http://www.soilwork.net

[Crabby]

Fantomas are supposedly going to title one of their new albums "Shaq Owns You".I seriously doubt they even really considered using it but it is an amusing title.

[SideburnZ]

I heard about that title too. :lol: Its awesome.

[Crabby]

Going to any of the Geeks shows,BurnZ? Looks like it's headed this way damn soon.Awesome news.

[Swedish Sensation]

Okay, since Aussie and Burnzy have done all but beg me to post in this thread, I'm gonna get involved...

Like Burnzy, I have money burning a hole in my pocket. So, any reccomendations? I'm looking mostly at progressive death metal right now: stuff like Opeth, Dark Tranquility, or even some Arch Enemy type of bands... but keep in mind, I haven't gotten into much hard stuff yet... so take it easy on me. :p

With that said, reccomend me some albums... :)

[NiMMERS]

BEWARE: Devy plugs may follow

Get Strapping Young Lad's 'City', it should be a stable in anyone's metal diet.

[Swedish Sensation]

Originally posted by NiMMERS
BEWARE: Devy plugs may follow

Get Strapping Young Lad's 'City', it should be a stable in anyone's metal diet.

I've heard that so many times from so many different people... okay, that's definitely being bought...

What about Load, Re-Load and Garage Inc. by Metallica? I've heard they all suck... but what do you people think? I'd really like to have the full collection of albums but I don't wanna get 'em if they truly do suck.

[NiMMERS]

Let's put it this way. There is so much better music than the latter day Metallica stuff.

If you guys can....get into Frankenbok. The gig the other night was eardrum-bustingly fantastic. They're an aussie band who mix up a bit of Faith No More quirkiness with blasts of grindcore. The new singer Adam B. Metal is better than Hutch I reckon. You gotta hear the stuff Hutch is dabbling in at the moment at www.adamglynn.net cos it aint Frankenbok.

[Swedish Sensation]

Originally posted by NiMMERS
Let's put it this way. There is so much better music than the latter day Metallica stuff.

If you guys can....get into Frankenbok. The gig the other night was eardrum-bustingly fantastic. They're an aussie band who mix up a bit of Faith No More quirkiness with blasts of grindcore. The new singer Adam B. Metal is better than Hutch I reckon. You gotta hear the stuff Hutch is dabbling in at the moment at www.adamglynn.net cos it aint Frankenbok.

Hmm... the only name out of that whole post that I've heard before is Metallica. :p But I'll remember Frankenbok next time I go visit the music store... the metal section is pretty small there and I'm almost sure I've never seen them before but I'll give it a thoroughal check.

[Crabby]

Frankenbok are an awesome Aussie metal act,but you might find that their stuff is difficult to tack down over there,Swede.

My advice- check out Devy.

[NiMMERS]

Well if you're a Swedish Sensation I can almost guarantee you won't find any Frankenbok. But try and download some if ya can.

They're an aussie band and down here our favourite sons and daughters get criminally ignored.

[Swedish Sensation]

Originally posted by Crabby
Frankenbok are an awesome Aussie metal act,but you might find that their stuff is difficult to tack down over there,Swede.

My advice- check out Devy.

Devy as in SYL, right? We have all their albums up here at the A & B Sound 'cause they really like their Canadian bands so that shouldn't be too hard to do at all. I've been told by my other buddy to check them out and he was the same guy who reccomended Opeth to me, so I hold his musical taste in the highest honor, along with Bent's for introducing me to Tool.

[NiMMERS]

Tool Schmool :)

You Canadian then eh? Piss easy for you to get into Devy then and all his other solo projects. Check out Zimmers Hole too, it's a pisstake on metal but the metal is better than most.

[Swedish Sensation]

Originally posted by NiMMERS
Tool Schmool :)

You Canadian then eh? Piss easy for you to get into Devy then and all his other solo projects. Check out Zimmers Hole too, it's a pisstake on metal but the metal is better than most.

Sweet... never heard of them either... that's why I love coming onto the internet and finding out about new bands.

Yeah, I used to think Tool was the best thing out there... they're still pretty amazing but Opeth definitely eclipses them and I'm even finding these days that I enjoy NIN more than Tool. But I guess that's what happens when you listen to all their albums atleast once a day for half a year. I still listen to all their albums atleast once a week and enjoy it but it's not something I could listen to every day or every couple days anymore. :\

[Crabby]

I didn't think Devy was overly popular in his native Canada.

*Shrugs*.

Are you a fan of The Tea Party, Swede? 'Cause they're nearly as huge here as they are in Canada.

[Swedish Sensation]

Originally posted by Crabby
I didn't think Devy was overly popular in his native Canada.

*Shrugs*.

Are you a fan of The Tea Party, Swede? 'Cause they're nearly as huge here as they are in Canada.

Nope, never heard them, sorry.

My main listening material right now (I'll even put it in alphabetical order for you):

- A Perfect Circle
- Arch Enemy
- Metallica
- NIN
- Opeth
- Pantera
- Pink Floyd
- Revolution (local band)
- Tool

Everything else, I'm fairly clueless about... :\

[Crabby]

You're Canadian and never heard of The Tea Party?

Damn, that's surprising.

They're basically melodic hard rock with a Led Zeppelin and Jane's Addiction influence.Check em'out, they're damn good.

[NiMMERS]

Pantera eh? Phil loves his side projects so go and fect the 2 Down albums and Superjoint Ritual. There are others too which he has appeared on like Viking Crown and Necrophagia.

[Crabby]

I'm not much of a fan of Eibon,though. Althoug supposedly that project will never really be finished.

[Swedish Sensation]

Originally posted by Crabby
You're Canadian and never heard of The Tea Party?

Damn, that's surprising.

They're basically melodic hard rock with a Led Zeppelin and Jane's Addiction influence.Check em'out, they're damn good.

I've heard of them, just haven't heard them... as in their music itself... ;)

Any suggestions of albums for me to download?

[Swedish Sensation]

Originally posted by NiMMERS
Pantera eh? Phil loves his side projects so go and fect the 2 Down albums and Superjoint Ritual. There are others too which he has appeared on like Viking Crown and Necrophagia.

I've heard of Down, never Superjoint Ritual... hmm... more stuff to check out. Sweet. I've just recently gotten into Vulgar Display and Far Beyond by Pantera... I ended up listening to them both about 6 times in the last few days.

[Crabby]

Albums- Try Transmission or Triptych, or maybe Splendour Solis for starters. The Alahambra EP is mainly acoustic but is also quite good.

They've had a huge following here for almost as long as they have existed.

[Swedish Sensation]

Originally posted by Crabby
Albums- Try Transmission or Triptych, or maybe Splendour Solis for starters. The Alahambra EP is mainly acoustic but is also quite good.

They've had a huge following here for almost as long as they have existed.

I'll go with Transmission... it's been written down in my music booklet and will be downloaded tomorrow after work. :)

[Crabby]

They have a new album out later in the year, so watch out for it.

And Superjoint Ritual are also well worth checking out as Nimmers previously mentioned.

[Swedish Sensation]

Originally posted by Crabby
And Superjoint Ritual are also well worth checking out as Nimmers previously mentioned.

My list reads exactly like this:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/swedishsensation/Picture32.jpg

Just felt like taking a picture with my new toy. :D

[Crabby]

If you like Tool you should also download some stuff by Cog, an awesome Aussie prog/rock band.The Mark Of Cain are also damn good and are worth checking out.

'Cause you wouldn't be able to find their stuff up there.

[Psycho]

That's some crappy paper you got there...

[Crabby]

Are you a fan of SYL or The Tea Party, Pyscho?

And last of all Swede, give Deftones a listen.

[NiMMERS]

Big ups for Cog!

Just remember.....the 'bok fuckin' rock.

[Crabby]

I'm seeing Cog again in a few weeks, looking forward to it.

How was the Frankenbok gig?

[Swedish Sensation]

Originally posted by Crabby
Are you a fan of SYL or The Tea Party, Pyscho?

And last of all Swede, give Deftones a listen.

I've heard 7 Words with The Deftones and Tool... that's definitely a band I won't hesitate to check out. I'm also checking out Katatonia right now, more specifically the album Last Fair Deal Gone Down. So I'll probably download 1 album from each other band on my list (since I have 8 now) and listen to them all in one day and see what I think. :)

Unfortunately I won't be able to do that until Monday or Wednesday with work and all that responsibility crap but I'll definitely let ya know what I think.

Psycho: It certainly is... I've had it for like, 10 years... I'm surprised it didn't like, decompose or something the whole time it's been sitting in my desk.

[Psycho]

Originally posted by Crabby
Are you a fan of SYL or The Tea Party, Pyscho?

And last of all Swede, give Deftones a listen.

I don't know what SYL stands for but I dislike The Tea Party.

[NiMMERS]

Frankenbok = brilliant. Daysend were fucking awesome too....their guitarist has some mad skills.

Hopefully they come back here soon.

[Crabby]

Deftones have a song featuring Maynard called "Passenger" on the "White Pony" album, I can almost guarantee you'd like it. "7 Words" is just Deftones, from their first album.

SYL=Strapping Young Lad.

Not a fan of The Tea Party? Seems weird they're huge in their homeland and here, and popular in Europe, but have never cacked it in the US.

Daysend are cool, probably better than Psi.Kore IMO.

[Swedish Sensation]

Originally posted by Crabby
Deftones have a song featuring Maynard called "Passenger" on the "White Pony" album, I can almost guarantee you'd like it. "7 Words" is just Deftones, from their first album.

Ahh. White Pony. Alright, something to check out. I've got Kazaa going on full throttle here downloading 8 albums at once. :p Thanks for all the reccomendations guys... I'm good for now.

[Psycho]

Originally posted by Crabby
"Passenger" on the "White Pony" album


That song owns every other song on the CD. Don't get me wrong, the rest of the CD is good too, but yeah.



SYL=Strapping Young Lad.


Never heard em.



Not a fan of The Tea Party? Seems weird they're huge in their homeland and here, and popular in Europe, but have never cacked it in the US.


I don't hate them, but no I am not a fan.

[Crabby]

"White Pony" is damn good, though it can take a while to get into. You should get "Around The Fur" some time in the future as well, probably their best all-round album.

[Black Eagle]

Seems like your into the same shit as me Swede.

Blind Gaurdian
InFlames
Dark Tranquility
Dream Evil
Sunk Loto
The Butterfly Effect

All good.

[Crabby]

I'm yet to see The Butterfly Effect live yet but I plan to in the future.They have their album out soon, no doubt an extensive tour will then follow.

Did you like my recommendations from a few weeks ago,Rhys?

[Swedish Sensation]

Originally posted by Black Eagle
Seems like your into the same shit as me Swede.

Blind Gaurdian
InFlames
Dark Tranquility
Dream Evil
Sunk Loto
The Butterfly Effect

All good.

Opeth says a lot about In Flames and Dark Tranquility... almost too much in fact... but I'll check all those out too. Now that's a list of 14... ahaha... well, I got what I asked for. Thanks. :)

[Black Eagle]

Originally posted by Crabby
I'm yet to see The Butterfly Effect live yet but I plan to in the future.They have their album out soon, no doubt an extensive tour will then follow.

Did you like my recommendations from a few weeks ago,Rhys?

The list was pretty much what i've already listened to. The Incubus of old is class, but i've had their albums for a while now.

Devin Townsend is getting a fair amount of air time, same as Iron Maiden and AIC

[Psycho]

Originally posted by Crabby
"White Pony" is damn good, though it can take a while to get into. You should get "Around The Fur" some time in the future as well, probably their best all-round album.

That I shall, sir.

[Crabby]

You should also download some Cog Rhys,and maybe some Refused as well.

I'm full of recommendations today.

[Swedish Sensation]

Frankenbok is looking like a no-go.

I found 2 tracks from The Loopholes and Great Excuses EP but can't get the rest... and I can't even find them on Amazon which is really uncommon...

I've got Transmission by Tea Party, Nola by Down, and Use Once and Destroy by Superjoint Ritual on the go at the moment.

[Swedish Sensation]

Wtffff?

Cog as in Cog Sinister or just Cog?

All I can find is Cog Sinister...

[Crabby]

They're just called Cog.

Try searching under "Just Visting" Part 1 or 2, that's what their EP's are called anyway.

[Psycho]

Originally posted by Swedish Sensation
Wtffff?


Have you been at TPWW lately? :shifty:

[Swedish Sensation]

Originally posted by PsychoSport
Have you been at TPWW lately? :shifty:

Er, no... but I profoundly apologize if that was TPWW lingo... :ashamed:

Thanks Crabby... I'll check that out.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Notice when someone 'new' comes into this thread we all automatically Jump all over them, probably scaring them away.

Us scary metalheads.

Oh and Nevermore's Dead Heart, you will get sooooooo into that SS.

[NiMMERS]

What is TPWW?!

Persist with the 'bok!
It's worth it. I suggest tracks like 'Greetings and Salutations', 'Linguistics', 'Celibacy', 'Monk Discipline' and 'Success is Revenge'. It's all great though.

They got this cool new song where the lyrics is just 'Cunts! Fucking Cunts!'.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Swedish Sensation
I'm looking mostly at progressive death metal right now: stuff like Opeth, Dark Tranquility, or even some Arch Enemy type of bands... but keep in mind, I haven't gotten into much hard stuff yet... so take it easy on me. :p



At the Gates' 'Slaughter of the Soul' might be what you're looking for. Some Amon Amarth might be good, too. They're more like Arch Enemy than the other 2.

I haven't read all of what's been posted since last time, though, so if someone already recommended those, or 'The Jester Race' by In Flames, then ignore me. :p

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by NiMMERS
What is TPWW?!



It's another wrestling website. It parallels Rajah in format, I think.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Burnz, seen the new CoB video?

http://www.hatecrew.com/

It's in Downloads.

[Ringo]

Some Metal Questions And Things For You All If You Don't Mind ........


1. Which Iced Earth album should I buy first?
2. Do You recommend Helloween? If so, which of their albums should I get first?
3. Same question as above, but Gamma ray this time.
4. I have Blackwater Park, Could you list the other Opeth albums in order of which I should get first?
5. So should I get The Art Of Balance or not?
6. Should I even bother to get Machine Head's 'Supercharger', to complete my MH collection? or just download it instead?
7. Which Chimaira album do you recommend I get first?
8. " Neurosis " " ?
9. " Exodus " " ?
10. I have Seasons In The Abyss and Reign In Blood, out of the other albums apart from South Of Heaven, which Slayer album should I get first?
11. What Type O Negative Songs Shall I download? I got a few already, but just name all their best anyway...


Feel free to discuss all these questions, not just giving a straight answer.....



and some issues/things etc. to discuss......

1. What do you think Sepultura's new album will be like? any good?
2. Anyone in to Old Man's Child?
3. Could You name some good underrated metal bands for me to check out, or anyone else who wants to?
4. " name some good new metal bands " " " ?



Thanks.

[NiMMERS]

Originally posted by The Ringmaster
Some Metal Questions And Things For You All If You Don't Mind ........


1. Which Iced Earth album should I buy first?
2. Do You recommend Helloween? If so, which of their albums should I get first?
3. Same question as above, but Gamma ray this time.
4. I have Blackwater Park, Could you list the other Opeth albums in order of which I should get first?
5. So should I get The Art Of Balance or not?
6. Should I even bother to get Machine Head's 'Supercharger', to complete my MH collection? or just download it instead?
7. Which Chimaira album do you recommend I get first?
8. " Neurosis " " ?
9. " Exodus " " ?
10. I have Seasons In The Abyss and Reign In Blood, out of the other albums apart from South Of Heaven, which Slayer album should I get first?
11. What Type O Negative Songs Shall I download? I got a few already, but just name all their best anyway...


Feel free to discuss all these questions, not just giving a straight answer.....



and some issues/things etc. to discuss......

1. What do you think Sepultura's new album will be like? any good?
2. Anyone in to Old Man's Child?
3. Could You name some good underrated metal bands for me to check out, or anyone else who wants to?
4. " name some good new metal bands " " " ?



Thanks.

1) Never got into Iced Earth.
2) Helloween aint my cup of tea.
3) See above.
4) 'My Arms, Your Hearse' to get you right into the thick of things, the song 'Demon of the Fall' is what got me into the band. Hunt down 'Deliverance' and 'Still Life' as well. Heck just get it all.
5) Why not? I still think there are other bands doing the same thing and better and have been round longer. Check out At The Gates, In Flames yada yada any band from Sweden :)
6) I only got it cos it was the digipak sitting there in good condition 2nd hand (cheap!). It's better than 'The Burning Red' but it aint the Machine Head I love.
7) Them? They only got like 2 out aint they? Either/Or I say.
8) Hell Yes. Neurosis = Good. One of the most heaviest and individual bands out there.
9) One of the legendary Bay Area thrash bands of the 80's. Get their music if ya wanna check out what thrash was all about back in the day. Other bands of their ilk include Possessed and Testament and (old) Metallica.
10) All the old stuff like 'Haunting the Chapel' and shit. Again, one of those classic bands where you just get all their stuff.
11) I hate Type O Negative.

-----

1) New Sepultura will rock. Go check out 'Mindwar' which comes from the new and soon to be released LP. Alot of people don't like Seps now cos they changed their musical direction and are pushing the boundaries of what they can do, I dig it. Which I can't say for their old counterpart, Maxy (now in Soulfly). He wrote the same album 3 times and each got worse (I still love the debut)...but it's all recycled beyond belief.
2) Not really, one of the reasonably respectable Black Metal bands from Norway. All I heard is they went for the Swedish melodic sound on their latest outing which can't be a bad thing.
3) I suppose Strapping Young Lad are underrated, even though in metal media in general they are hot property. Hunt down 'City'. I went and saw a band by the name of Frankenbok the other night and they fucking blew me away with their new singer, depending on where you're from it'll be near impossible for ya to get their 2 releases (and 1 impending release). Search for their stuff on Kazaa or WinMX I think you'll find a few tracks. I reccomend the Scandinavian scene. Bands like In Flames, Meshuggah, Dark Tranquility, Children of Bodom. And old disbanded classic bands from there like Grave and At The Gates and Celtic Frost (well they reformed recently). It's all good. www.bnrmetal.com gives a good and brief insight into a whole lot of bands.
4) New bands? No idea. I like to get into bands that pioneered and paved the way for followers. Cos really there arent many new bands that are doing something refreshingly individual.

[WizoOzz]

Originally posted by The Ringmaster

1. Which Iced Earth album should I buy first?
2. Do You recommend Helloween? If so, which of their albums should I get first?
3. Same question as above, but Gamma ray this time.
4. I have Blackwater Park, Could you list the other Opeth albums in order of which I should get first?
5. So should I get The Art Of Balance or not?
6. Should I even bother to get Machine Head's 'Supercharger', to complete my MH collection? or just download it instead?
7. Which Chimaira album do you recommend I get first?
8. " Neurosis " " ?
9. " Exodus " " ?
10. I have Seasons In The Abyss and Reign In Blood, out of the other albums apart from South Of Heaven, which Slayer album should I get first?
11. What Type O Negative Songs Shall I download? I got a few already, but just name all their best anyway...

and some issues/things etc. to discuss......

1. What do you think Sepultura's new album will be like? any good?
2. Anyone in to Old Man's Child?
3. Could You name some good underrated metal bands for me to check out, or anyone else who wants to?
4. " name some good new metal bands " " " ?


I'm gonna do my best to answer these...

1- Go with The Dark Saga first, it's probably their best album, if you're in to that, check out Days of Purgatory. Purgatory is definitely one of my faves, as I've bought it three times over, one American version, one Japanese, and one double-disc Euro import.

2- I've heard a little Helloween, and it's just not my thing.

3- Never heard of 'em.

4- Get Deliverance next. Followed by My Arms, Your Hearse, Still Life, Damnation, Morningrise and Orchid. And if at all possible, get the non-American imports...they're :yes:, bonus tracks own.

5- The Shadows Fall album? Meh, it's alright...not all that it's cracked up to be. I've heard tons of positive reviews, but they're just not all that fantastic and memorable to me. Maybe their next album will be better? I'd recommend Killswitch Engage rather than Shadows Fall, if you haven't heard them, that is.

6- If you dig the style of The Burning Red, then by all means buy it. If you didn't, and you still want it to add to your collection, then download it.

7- I have that one, Pass Out of Existence, and it is friggin' amazing. If they have a new one out, and I don't have it, I'm going to slap myself.

8 & 9- I've never really been into either band, so I really couldn't tell you.

10- Any of them. After South of Heaven, you'll already have the crown jewels of Slayer's catalogue. If you absolutely need advice on which to buy next, I'd recommend Divine Intervention, as it's probably the next best one...but after you have the best of the best, it doesn't much matter which you buy next.

11- Black Number 1, anything off of October Rust, pretty much anything off of World Coming Down, and there are a few others...and their version of "Black Sabbath" off the first NIB tribute (not the one on The Least Worst of...) is friggin' amazing.

And then...

1- If it doesn't have Max, then I really don't want to hear it. I'm sure that it will be good and bad on its own merits, but really w/out Max, Sepultura just isn't the same...and Soulfly isn't crap compared to old Sep.

2- Never heard of 'em.

3- LIFE OF AGONY!!!!!!!! Get River Runs Red, it's essential listening for any and everyone. Dark Tranquility if you're into anything that sounds like In Flames...only less sold out.

4- I've already said Killswitch Engage...go for Daylight Dies as well...they're friggin' awesome for melodic Swedish-sounding death metal...even if they're American.

...and that's about all I got for today.

[Crabby]

"Supercharger" is a decent effort but not a patch on their past work.I know it's almost a cliche to say that, but it's true.Too much filler for my liking and some of the songwriting is pretty ordinary.If you like "The Burning Red", though, you should pick it up.

As far as Slayer goes, I'd recommend you pick up "Hell Awaits" next, and probably then "Divine Intervention". "Show No Mercy" is also quite good even if some of the lyrics are somewhat stupid."Decade Of Aggression" is a killer live album as well.

Opeth- I'd recommend you get "Deliverance" next.

A band I think you'd also like is Will Haven.Check out the "Carpe Diem" album.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by The Ringmaster
Some Metal Questions And Things For You All If You Don't Mind ........


1. Which Iced Earth album should I buy first?
2. Do You recommend Helloween? If so, which of their albums should I get first?
3. Same question as above, but Gamma ray this time.
4. I have Blackwater Park, Could you list the other Opeth albums in order of which I should get first?
5. So should I get The Art Of Balance or not?
6. Should I even bother to get Machine Head's 'Supercharger', to complete my MH collection? or just download it instead?
7. Which Chimaira album do you recommend I get first?
8. " Neurosis " " ?
9. " Exodus " " ?
10. I have Seasons In The Abyss and Reign In Blood, out of the other albums apart from South Of Heaven, which Slayer album should I get first?
11. What Type O Negative Songs Shall I download? I got a few already, but just name all their best anyway...


Feel free to discuss all these questions, not just giving a straight answer.....



and some issues/things etc. to discuss......

1. What do you think Sepultura's new album will be like? any good?
2. Anyone in to Old Man's Child?
3. Could You name some good underrated metal bands for me to check out, or anyone else who wants to?
4. " name some good new metal bands " " " ?



Thanks.

1) Something Wicked This Way Comes. The title track is worth the price of admission alone.
5) No. It has a few good moments, but I don't think it's worth shelling out the money for.
6) Download it first.
10) Live: Decade of Agression. A great live CD, and a good range of their work.
11) Black No.1, My Girlfriend's Girlfriend, and Kill all the White People. My experience with Type O is pretty limited, though...

[Aussie_Outlaw]

The First Iced Earth album you should get is prolly Dark Saga, but I guess you could start off with Alive In Athens, as it's a live disc giving you a fair range of stuff from different albums. It's fairly good too.

I'm slowly getting to Helloween, but it's hard to, they're like Iron Maiden just with a slightly weirder sound, I find Blind Guardian to get into easier

Gamma Ray, another power/heavy band, I'm slowly making my way around to all the power bands, but I'm currently stuck up in Melo-Death at the moment. Havent got around to Gamma Ray Yet.

Other people know Opeth's catalogue better than me. Still Life I'd say though.

MachineHead's superCharger isn't that bad of an album, it's not great, it's not crap, somewhere in the middle, it's not as dark as Burning Red, but it still holds some nice commercial energy songs.

Lets say for Slayer definately Decade Of Aggression, and Diabolus In Musica, then perhaps the earlier shit with Hell Awaits, etc and then the early 90's ones. GHUA somewhere in the middle

Under-rated Metal bands, well it all depends on what your into I guess, see I'd say the whole Melodic Death scene is under-rated compared to where it should be (mainstream) but others would say the leaders of the genre (AE, ATG, S, IF) are over-rated. Racer X deserve more credit than they get. Nevermore need more followers and deserve more. Kamelot's The Spell is a fine song as is Wings Of Despair.


New Metal bands, I'm guessing yopu mean in the last few years, Dream Evil are only about one year old and fairly large, Warmachine should be signed to a decent label.

But I'm only naming power acts.

There's enough for now.

Oh and Burnz I found CoB's Hatebreeder on one of the webpages so I downloaded it, I only have the new one to go now.

[s-pac]

Originally posted by The Ringmaster
9. " Exodus " " ?


I have Bonded By Blood and its fucking awesome, I recommend it. I hear good things about Fabulous Disaster aswell but I've not checked it out myself yet.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by s-pac
I hear good things about Fabulous Disaster aswell but I've not checked it out myself yet.

The title song is awesome. That's almost all I've heard from them.

Exodus is one of those groups I've wanted to check out for years, but I always forget about them when I go buy CDs.

[Swedish Sensation]

Finally, something within my territory. Okay, if you want some Opeth, I'll give you a brief run-down of each album...

Orchid - Their debut album, basically their transition from a shitty death metal band to a good one... um, it's kinda monotonous and directionless, and they do a lot of things over and over again... but they're doing good things over and over again, which makes it tolerable... it's good background music, but if you want something to get lost in, don't get it.

Morningrise - In my opinion, one of their most amazing albums ever... it's very mellow with a few hard parts in between. The way it flows from a beautiful acoustic guitar solo to sheer insanity is just incredible. It brings you so many places and the vocals for the last 4 tracks are amazing. The first track, Advent, is kinda dull like their Orchid material. The Night and the Silent Water is beautiful, Nectar is beautiful and has an incredible climax at the end, Black Rose Immortal is imo the most beautiful song ever, 20:14 long, with some of the most piercing vocals and sound effects ever... and To Bid You Farewell is a beautiful acoustic track with lots of piercing vocals. Eternal Soul Torture is the extra track if you get the new version... haven't given it a proper listen so I can't really give you an assessment on that.

My Arms, Your Hearse - It's different from all other Opeth stuff... the tracks are shorter (an average of about 5 minutes, but if you take away the small interludes, about 7 1/2 minutes)... some of it just doesn't suit their style, mainly Akerfeldt's. Some of his singing seems really forced in the harder songs like Karma. The only song that really stands out is Demon of the Fall. It's good, but poor for Opeth standards... there's much better stuff out there.

Still Life - Mmmmm, what an album. Never really got into it until lately. It's basically the perfect precedent to Blackwater Park... it's got the same style, with mixed vocals between grim and clean, hard parts and soft parts, long mellow parts, but it's just not as refined. There's just something about it that seems a little forced. But other than that, it's great. Serenity Painted Death is a really dark song. Even White Cluster, the bonus track if you get the new version, is pretty good.

Deliverance - It's a bit monotonous at points, not as many clean parts, and then when there are clean parts, it's all clean and there's no grim parts. The first 2 tracks lead right into each other, and combined, they're about 25 minutes... but it's worth it for the drum solo at the end of Deliverance. OMGYES. A Fair Judgment is fairly mellow, has some really piercing vocals, but most of it is again somewhat monotonous. For Absent Friends is a beautiful instrumental but doesn't really stand out from their other work a whole lot. Master's Apprentices has a fucking kick-ass beat that reminds me of Metallica... it's really catchy. By the Pain I See in Others is a pretty good song, just if Akerfeldt didn't yell "RISE TO SUBMISSION" about 25 times. Overall, a good listen, but Morningrise and Still Life are better.

Damnation - Their shortest album to date, with an average track length of about 5 1/2 minutes, all clean vocals, no hard parts at all, but it's fucking beautiful. It's basically a more refined version of Morningrise with more piercing vocals (the whole album has incredible vocals), though I wish they would've made longer tracks. That's my only complaint... it's a beautiful album.

[J Feisty]

Originally posted by Crabby

Anyone on these boards a Soilwork fan? "Natural Born Chaos" is a great album, plus their earlier stuff kicks some major arse. So, anyone else like this awesome band?

Soilwork is one of the best bands our right now,ive got all 5 CD's and I listen to them everyday. Ive met Speed,Peter and Ola (sp), speed is sooooooo fucking cool and absolutely gorgeous in person.

[J Feisty]

some badass metal bands i highly recommend

Strapping Young Lad
Soilwork
Darkane
In Flames
Goatwhore
God Forbid
Dark Tranquility
Crytopsy
Bad Ass Trip
Curl Up and Die


I always get the wierdest reactions when Im drving and blasting some In Flames or something because im this girly girl.

[J Feisty]

Originally posted by The Ringmaster
Some Metal Questions And Things For You All If You Don't Mind ........


11. What Type O Negative Songs Shall I download? I got a few already, but just name all their best anyway...None, Type O sucks


1. What do you think Sepultura's new album will be like? any good? Like Crap, like like ever other albumafter Max left

2. Anyone in to Old Man's Child?I love OMC, makes me feel like a royal when I listen to them (if you knwo them you will know what im talking about)

3. Could You name some good underrated metal bands for me to check out, or anyone else who wants to? SYL SYL SYL SYL SYL SYL SYL SYL SYL....and SYL

4. " name some good new metal bands " " " ?Soilwork i guess could be considered newer metal



Thanks.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Soilwork aren't new.

They're five albums into their career, it's like claiming Machine Head are new.Plus they've been around for over five years. They ain't new.

And J, you should listen to some Nevermore.

[J Feisty]

I said, I guess you could call them newer metal

[NiMMERS]

Why do people bag out post-Max Seps? Have they actually heard 'Against' and 'Nation'? Listen to what Max is producing in Soulfly.......you can pick the next riff like a dirty nose. It's all repetitive and recycled.

New Sepultura on the other hand are great. At least they're doing something new and exciting and not trying to recapture past glories like a certain pussy whipped ex-frontman.

For people to say the remaining Sepultura guys are nothing without Max (this is just one sheep opinion if I ever heard one, plus it aint the case), I retort with the fact that Max is nothing special without Andreas, Igor and Paulo.

[Crabby]

Max seems to be in a comfort zone these days with Soulfly,he just recycles riffs and song structures these days like you said.No inventiveness or real interest evident in the music these days.Their show with Hatebreed was damn good,though, so Max can still bring it live,though.

I dig latter-day Sepultura, though sure they were better with Max.It's the same with Audioslave.Sure, I loved Rage and Soundgarden and wish they were both still around, but they have formed a kick arse new band and haven't just rested on their laurels and are still producing killer material.Something Sepultura have also not done, they have kicked on and despite Max's claims they should have given up or changed their name,they are still more than worthy IMO.Their is still intensity and energy in their music that Soulfly seriously lacks these days.

And once again Nimmers, your hatred of Gloria shines through.Haha.

[NiMMERS]

Kill that green haired bitch.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by J Feisty
some badass metal bands i highly recommend

Strapping Young Lad
Soilwork
Darkane
In Flames
Goatwhore
God Forbid
Dark Tranquility
Crytopsy
Bad Ass Trip
Curl Up and Die


I always get the wierdest reactions when Im drving and blasting some In Flames or something because im this girly girl.

It's the greatest when you're in windows-down weather, and an old lady is next to you at the stoplight. I've never seen a greater look of disgust in my life.

...hey, isn't one of the guys from Goatwhore an ex-member of Acid Bath??

[QuietStorm]

I think it's about time to kick back, pop in Iced Earth's "Horror Show", and kick back and relax. Sound like a plan?

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by QuietStorm
I think it's about time to kick back, pop in Iced Earth's "Horror Show", and kick back and relax. Sound like a plan?

Good idea. :beer:


On an unrelated note, I'm getting an Ibanez guitar for 50 bucks! :headbang:

I want to hear it before I buy, though. I wonder why it's being sold for so cheap. :squint: