Metal Discussion Thread

[Hero!]

How many other groups play power metal with a growling vocalist.... is it that common, have I missed a massive movement.

I hate Children of Bodom for the groups massive WE DONT PLAY POWER METAL PLEASE DONT SAY WE PLAY POWER METAL COME ON GUYS... NOT POWER METAL statements

When Power Metal is obviously what they play.

then wtf do they say they play?

[Pete Cash]

THey play power metal :wtf: I just said so

[RockOverBoston]

then wtf do they say they play?

I say that I've seen three Godawful quotes of yours in three different forums in 35 minutes, I haven't been on the boards in months, and that you ought to be done away with on account of being so completely and utterly worthless.

And I speak on behalf of everyone, just FYI

[Hero!]

THey play power metal :wtf: I just said so

Yes I know that since i listen to bodom, but you said that they claim they dont play power metal even though they do. If they say that they dont play power metal then what in the hell do they say that they play?

[Hero!]

I say that I've seen three Godawful quotes of yours in three different forums in 35 minutes, I haven't been on the boards in months, and that you ought to be done away with on account of being so completely and utterly worthless.

And I speak on behalf of everyone, just FYI

mhmm, and i'm supposed to give a shit because....?

[Pete Cash]

Oh

They say... anything but power metal. Alexi Laiho is a bit of a wanker, good guitarist though.

[Pete Cash]

http://forums.rajah.com/showthread.php?t=121683

VOTE BLIND GUARDIAN.... OR DIE

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I might die.

I'm tempted to vote boyzone just to drive you insane.

[WizoOzz]

Guess I'm dead. I voted B.O.C.

"Godzilla," "Burning For You," and "Don't Fear the Reaper" pretty much own anything I've heard from Blind Guardian. Although I am fairly fond of Hansi w/ Demons & Wizards.

Meh.

[Pete Cash]

I don't like Demons and Wizards because of *palm mute*

Actually I don't mind them, Fiddler on the green is a tune.

If Blind Guardian wasn't in that poll I would have voted B.O.C. Still I am afraid I will have to curse you

[Cactus Lem]

Gigantour - Cemetary Gates

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEFPd7BZhFc

Russell Allen showing up the other vocalists :p

Been waiting AGES to see this though, ever since I heard it had happened

Hell yes :hyper:

I remember reading about this the day after it happend, and like you Temp I've been waiting to see it ever since.

EDIT: Allen truly does own everyone else on there, I love the way that the Fear Factory bloke is made to look a complete amatuer when taking over vocals after Allen's belter.

[Hero!]

Hell yes :hyper:

I remember reading about this the day after it happend, and like you Temp I've been waiting to see it ever since.

EDIT: Allen truly does own everyone else on there, I love the way that the Fear Factory bloke is made to look a complete amatuer when taking over vocals after Allen's belter.

Holy shit, the normal version on Cemetary gates always send chills up and down my spine, but this version.....words can't even describe the awesome. Will this be coming out on CD or DVD or anything?

[King101]

Iron Maiden just kicked off their world tour, heres the setlist (I guess i'll stick it in spoiler tags since it will likel be the same the entire tour and some people may not want to know the set in advance).

1. Different World
2. These Colours Don't Run
3. Brighter Than A Thousand Suns
4. The Pilgrim
5. The Longest Day
6. Out Of The Shadows
7. The Reincarnation Of Benjamin Breeg
8. For The Greater Good Of God
9. Lord Of Light
10. The Legacy
11. Fear Of The Dark
12. Iron Maiden
---
13. 2 Minutes To Midnight
14. The Evil That Men Do
15. Hallowed Be Thy Name

A pretty disappointing set overall - I didn't expect them to actually go through with playing the entire new album, and would never have guessed RtTH, NoTB and The Trooper would be dropped.

[Bad Obsession]

Fear Of The Dark, Iron Maiden, 2 Minutes To Midnight, The Evil That Men Do and Hallowed Be Thy Name?

Fuck me, that's good enough. All the big tunes. Love the new album too, so I have no problem hearing it all live.
Roll on December. :D

[SerialHunter]

"The Evil That Men Do" does the concert for me...

[Pete Cash]

Holy shit, the normal version on Cemetary gates always send chills up and down my spine, but this version.....words can't even describe the awesome. Will this be coming out on CD or DVD or anything?

Yeah it is on the gigantour DVD that is either out now or coming out (and I think there is also a CD version of it)

[Cactus Lem]

I'm glad I didn't get a Maiden ticket now after seeing that set.

[Pete Cash]

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=59848


According to Playlouder, a Swedish scientist named a 428-million-year-old fossilized worm (a marine polychaete annelid worm) that he found in the Silurian strata of Gotland, Sweden after the not yet killed-by-death MOTÖRHEAD frontman Lemmy Kilmister. "[it is] the perfect combination for a long-time fan of the band (and the music genre) and a professor of paleontology, as myself," explained Dr. Mats E. Eriksson, Associate Professor of Paleontology in the Department of Geology at Lund University.

"So, not only is he already a legend in the music business but his name will have a permanent record in Science," Eriksson added. "The fossil in question is a c. 428 million year old jaw of an extinct, marine polychaete annelid worm found in the Silurian strata of Gotland, Sweden. Its scientific name is Kalloprion Kilmisteri."

Now that is fucking metal.

Also Nemesis if you go to next years Wacken you will be in for a good showing... The people who run the festival should think about recording it for DVD.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h220/Pete_cash/4129683111.jpg

[Cactus Lem]

Blind Guardian and In Flames as headliners should be awesome, it shocks me that the Black Dhalia Murder are so high up the bill though, and I don't like anyone else on the line-up all that much yet other than the headliners.

One thing I like about Wacken is the fact that they announce a good portion of the line-up almost a year in advance, something that English festivals would never do.

[Pete Cash]

From the junk mail that Nuclear Blast sends me


Good news everyone! Our famous funfluffers EDGUY will play a tour in South America! The best is: People without opportunity to travel to these gigs can still be part of the tour! EDGUY will record the São Paulo show for a live DVD! What a thrill of anticipation! Furthermore EDGUY are confirmed for the BANG YOUR HEAD festival 2007 as headliner! Read more here!

I couldn't be bothered reading more...but Tempest will be pleased.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

About time they did a live dvd.

[aBBy]

For the Aussies, anyone going to Lamb of God concert? Killswitch Engage are one of the support acts. They're playing in Melbourne next Thursday (Oct 19th) at Palace Theatre. I found out about this abit too late and the tickets are now sold out :(

[Ringo]

It's hasn't even been two weeks and I'm already desperate to see the Guardian again. :(

[Pete Cash]

Oh I feel for you man... oh wait I've never seen them :(

[aBBy]

I got Triviums new album a couple of days ago, and after listening to it I'm impressed. I decided to wait and get the album instead of rip it from another website.

I can see where the Metallicas references play into it as there are some similiarities but the thing I love about Trivium is they make it there own aswell. They dont just rip off other material. They're so young aswell so they will just keep on getting better.

Back to the album, I like most of the songs especially Detonation, And Sadness Will Sear, Contempt Breeds Contamination, The Rising and even the metal ballad The World Cant Tear Us Apart. I also love the guitar work on The Crusade.

[blackening]

as i've posted before, didn't like it and don't listen to it.

man Guardian lost the vote by 1!!! to a band who ran around nude in a music video... :rolleyes:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

But Guardian still go through to the next round. So it's all good.

(and Pete will blame me for the fact I could have levelled the voting but chose not to)

[blackening]

ok cool, i didn't know they still went on.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Yeah well I believe I've outlined that fact on numerous (count 20) occasions and they are on the lists I continue posting of bands who are through to round 2. (Look at the A poll, it has it in spoiler tags there)

[Pete Cash]

If they were eliminated I would have drove down to Melbourne and drove a knife through Aussie outlaws face.

[blackening]

Yeah well I believe I've outlined that fact on numerous (count 20) occasions and they are on the lists I continue posting of bands who are through to round 2. (Look at the A poll, it has it in spoiler tags there)

nice :yes:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

But you don't know where I live.

[Pete Cash]

I would find you :)

[Pete Cash]

yo yo Megawozniak

I seem to recall you having all the nightingale albums... I have the first one and found it to be quite good and there is a new one due out next year, so...

Would it be worth my while to get the rest??

[King101]

For those who care - Trivium's (fantastic) new album 'The Crusade' has charted at number 7 in the UK album charts.

It was also certified silver (60,000 copies sold) on release day.

[Hero!]

For those who care - Trivium's (fantastic) new album 'The Crusade' has charted at number 7 in the UK album charts.

It was also certified silver (60,000 copies sold) on release day.

Is it as good as their last one? People keep telling me this new album sounds terrible, but i haven't listened to it.

[Hero!]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=chiVMrWMHko

All metal-heads need to watch this video, its so true its sad actually.

[SerialHunter]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=chiVMrWMHko

All metal-heads need to watch this video, its so true its sad actually.

yell like a wookie :headbang:

[Pete Cash]

Scott Ian has the greatest beard known to man...

Also, don't read the comments, it will just depress you.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I'm clean shaved now :$

[Kev]

I can't believe I didn't know about Killswitch Engage on Thursday.

Excuse me as I put a bullet to my head.

[aBBy]

For those who care - Trivium's (fantastic) new album 'The Crusade' has charted at number 7 in the UK album charts.

It was also certified silver (60,000 copies sold) on release day.

It debuted in the Top 20 on the Australian charts which I'm happy about because it shows they have some love Down Under.

I just hope they come down and tour soon!

[aBBy]

I can't believe I didn't know about Killswitch Engage on Thursday.

Excuse me as I put a bullet to my head.

I know. I knew about this too late aswell. The tickets are now sold out! Apparently Jesse David Leeche is even going to come down to sing a few tracks! I'm so disappointed that I've missed out :(

[Cactus Lem]

I know. I knew about this too late aswell. The tickets are now sold out! Apparently Jesse David Leeche is even going to come down to sing a few tracks! I'm so disappointed that I've missed out :(

:eek:

Where on earth did you hear that!?

Leeche is immense, I honestly prefer him to Howard, Alive or Just Breathing is easily in my all time top five, and his vocals are a huge factor in that.

I've seen KsE four times, and three of those times they've been absolutley amazing. One of the cool things about seeing them as well, is the fact that each time not one show has been simmilar to one another due to the enviroment and venues.

First time I saw them was supporting Slayer on The Jagermesiter tour in LA when I was on holiday. They where the main support, and the ignorance of many Slayer fans annoyed me as hardly anyone knew who they where. They came out knowing that know one was bothered about them, and very almost stole the show putting in a great performance. They seemed determined to show everyone what an awesome band they where, and they won the majority of the audience over. Was the biggest venue I've seen KsE in, I think it was somewhere around the 6,500 mark.

Second time was at the Astoria in London, and they where headlining what was an amazing night of music, as the support came from Johnny Truant and All That Remains, and both won me over as a fan. Smallish venue the Astoria, taking about 1,800, I'm sure it was a sell out, and it was without doubt the loudest gig I've ever been too. They litteraly blew the roff off, putting in yet another great performance, topping off an awesome night.

The third, and easily the worst time I saw them was at Download Festival 2005. They played on a freezing cold and very dry Sunday afternoon, and the amount of dust in the air really affected mine and my friends enjoyment of them. Having dust and dirt hit the back of your throat constantly isn't pleasent.

The most recent time I saw them had to be the best, at the Underworld in London. It was a special warm up show for Reading Festival, and it was the most intimate show they'd played in a long time (I think the Underworld has a capacity of 300-400). There was no barrier, and I was right at the front basically leaning on the stage, which was simply amazing, gave me a huge adrehnaline rush, and the atmosphere was so intense. I even managed to get on stage and STAGE DIVE, Anthrax style twice that night, something I never thought I'd do, but my god was the adrehnaline flowing. They played a very different set, mixing the order up a bit, and playing a few new songs, including CM Punk's entrance music, which it seemed I was the only person there who knew it already.

So basicaly, you guys should go to the venue and just try buying a ticket from a tout or find someone with a spare, because trust me, it's well worth it.

[Pete Cash]

If you have the cash (teehee) there are tickets for the show on Ebay.

Not long to NEVERMORE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

[Tempest]

http://forums.rajah.com/showthread.php?t=121957

Would you want to make a man as handsome as this sad?

http://www.metal-rules.com/zine/images/stories/interviews/Russell_Allen/allen_lande_promo_2.jpg

Would you?

WOULD YOU?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I'm sure Madonna and Angelina Jolie are fighting to adopt him with that face.

[Pete Cash]

He is rather handsome

How good was his singing of cemetary gates

[Pete Cash]

For Cactus Lem

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5FOR18Q5

This is the Last Tribe song... I will get the Russell Allen song up later

[Cactus Lem]

Thanks for that mate :yes:

[Pete Cash]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8YK73F6W

and RUSSELL ALLEN

[Tempest]

Such a fucking great album :heart:

[Pete Cash]

How good are some of the lyrics

Saucy Jack
Saucey Jack
Friday night
I'm on the prowl
With Saucey Jack and Captain Coke
Rollin' cannons and i'm fanning the greens
Feelin' mean
Feelin' rock and roll

Chorus:
I need a kick in the ass
Need a blast
I want a fast girl or two
Oh Lord, dirty livin' gonna kill me
But oh i love it so
Ya know i do

Old vices got me down
Damn dope callin' my name
Everyday i play a losing hand
But i refuse to quit the game
Lord, have mercy

Chorus

Blowin' lights all over town
I got to move, i got to go
Livin' life on a razor's edge
Kiss the bones and let 'em roll
Roll, baby, roll

Chorus

I need a kick in the ass
Need a blast
I want a fast girl or two
Oh Lord, i know it's gonna kill me
But i gotta do
What i got to do
Alright

:lol:

[Pete Cash]

YO Bad Obsession

Due to you and my ex girlfriends constant shilling of Agalloch I have got some.

I will give it a listen tonight and report back tomorrow

[Bad Obsession]

:yes:

What do you have? An album? The Mantle is their best I reckon.

[Pete Cash]

I have everything... I downloaded it *ashamed*

If I like it though I will buy it :)

I am off to listen to Pale Folklore right now as that is there first full length and it is their best rated at metal archives. The mantle shall be for tomorrow.

[PepperCarrot]

Aggaloch kicks the ass.

[Bad Obsession]

I have everything... I downloaded it *ashamed*

If I like it though I will buy it :)

I am off to listen to Pale Folklore right now as that is there first full length and it is their best rated at metal archives. The mantle shall be for tomorrow.
Ah you're in for a treat then. Going through their libary will be an experience and a half ;)

I always download before I buy too. Stupid not to.

[Pete Cash]

http://xpeh.harddays.net/album.php?id=657

If you are interested Bad Obsession

[Bad Obsession]

Downloading now. Thanks :) Gotta spread some rep around before giving it to you again apparently. :\

What did you make of Agalloch? If you like them I suggest trying out a few other bands who have a similar style. Woods of Ypres are a fucking amazing band (I can upload one of their albums for you if you want).

Edit: Here ya go. (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=T8WEN2HJ)

I'm only a few tracks into the Orphaned Land album but it sounds really good so far. I'm digging it. :yes:

[aBBy]

Just thought I'll mention that Killswitch Engage's new album, "As Daylight Dies" comes out on November 21, 2006.

The album cover is looking pretty nice and I heard abit of one of the tracks 'For You' and I'm really digging it. Looking forward to listening to the album when it comes out.

[Cactus Lem]

Just thought I'll mention that Killswitch Engage's new album, "As Daylight Dies" comes out on November 21, 2006.

The album cover is looking pretty nice and I heard abit of one of the tracks 'For You' and I'm really digging it. Looking forward to listening to the album when it comes out.

I downloaded it the other day, only had time for one proper listen so far, and it was solid, but nothing special.

Seem's to sound more or less along the same lines as End of the Heartache, which is fine, but it hasn't shown any real growth.

Maybe I'll think differently after a few more listens though, who knows?

[Craig T. Nelson]

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/ScottNeely/pat_boone_in_a_metal_mood_front_big.jpg

That is all.

[Pete Cash]

http://www.snakenetmetalradio.com/tunein.asp

[Aussie_Outlaw]

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b276/ScottNeely/pat_boone_in_a_metal_mood_front_big.jpg

That is all.

Have you heard some of it? It's hilarious in a bad way. It's like Shatner's Rocketman but just horrid.

[blackening]

I downloaded it the other day, only had time for one proper listen so far, and it was solid, but nothing special.

Seem's to sound more or less along the same lines as End of the Heartache, which is fine, but it hasn't shown any real growth.

Maybe I'll think differently after a few more listens though, who knows?

i listened to the song Daylight Dies from the RoadRunner Records site. while not bad, like you said it sounds like it could have been on The End of Heartache.

[aBBy]

This thread needs a bump!

This is a question for Metallica fans, which do you think is the best Metallica album?

Master Of Puppets
...And Justice For All
Metallica (The Black Album)

I'm finding it hard to choose but I listen to The Black Album alot. That album is great from top to bottom and it has Enter Sandam, Nothing Else Matters and The Unforgiven. I love all those songs.

Master Of Puppets is awesome aswell and is there most recognised album. Alot of amazing rifts. Then theres ...And Justice For All which has one of my favourite songs ever 'One'.

[Ringo]

It's Ride The Lightning for me.

[Tempest]

Ride The Lightening, definately.

ALSO, i've been listening to Savage Circus' 'Dreamland Manor' again lately. It really is one hell of an album. I'm not really sure what the situation is with the band now, but I think one (or even two?) is on a hiatus so there won't be a follow up any time soon. If they manage to make another album that good though i'll be claiming they're as good as Guardian (Mostly to annoy Pete, but that's not the point).

But seriously, they are lovely :heart:

[Pete Cash]

This thread needs a bump!

This is a question for Metallica fans, which do you think is the best Metallica album?

Master Of Puppets
...And Justice For All
Metallica (The Black Album)

I'm finding it hard to choose but I listen to The Black Album alot. That album is great from top to bottom and it has Enter Sandam, Nothing Else Matters and The Unforgiven. I love all those songs.

Master Of Puppets is awesome aswell and is there most recognised album. Alot of amazing rifts. Then theres ...And Justice For All which has one of my favourite songs ever 'One'.

Kill 'em all and ride the lightning are better than all those albums :)

[Aussie_Outlaw]

You are indeed right pete.

Black Album has a shitty back end (yes really bad), puppets is overated and has too much filler in the songs in an attempt to be progressive and Justice is even worse in that respect.

[aBBy]

Oh yeh that is a good album too. Man..I loved there old stuff.

But I still also like there next 3 albums that I mentioned in my other post, no matter what anyone says.

[Pete Cash]

Master of Puppets was the beginning of the end :p

Orion sums up everything that is wrong with modern metal

[Cactus Lem]

puppets is overated and has too much filler in the songs in an attempt to be progressive and Justice is even worse in that respect.

I think that's just an opinon though on Puppets, as I've never seen anyone else ever say that about it. I know technically you guys have far better knowledge of how the music is out together and stuff, but I don't agree with that at all (I do more so with Justice though for sure).

Personally, I find nothing on Puppets boring, and over the past 5 years I've listened to the album countless times, and never found one little bit of it boring. I always find it an experience from start to finish, and I'd probably go as far as to call it my favourite album of all time.

[Bad Obsession]

Sometimes I feel like the only metalhead alive that has absolutely no interest in Metallica whatsoever.

And I mean none. I find them so dull it's insane.

[PepperCarrot]

Sometimes I feel like the only metalhead alive that has absolutely no interest in Metallica whatsoever.

And I mean none. I find them so dull it's insane.

*raises hand*

You are not alone!

Edit : NEW RHAPSODY song video! Its awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBWgpH1OBXY&mode=related&search=

[Hero!]

OO Metallica discussion :)

Hmm lets see, I love Ride and Kill because I like the raw energetic kinda young, immature sound they had at the time and they were still pretty thrash at the time. I love MoP and I think that album is almost a masterpeice. They showcase incredible talent in playing their instruments and definitely in song writing on that album. And justice had a few good tracks like Blackened, One, the shortest straw, and harvester of sorrow, but it can't compete with the other albums. And the black album, as bad as it was, holds a special place in my heart because it was my first CD ever, given to me by my sister when i was like 9 years old :)

Edit: missed a couple letters :p

[Cactus Lem]

*raises hand*

You are not alone!

Edit : NEW RHAPSODY song video! Its awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBWgpH1OBXY&mode=related&search=

Don't you mean the newly named 'Rhapsody of Fire'!!!!

[Alex E]

Ride The Lightening, definately.

ALSO, i've been listening to Savage Circus' 'Dreamland Manor' again lately. It really is one hell of an album. I'm not really sure what the situation is with the band now, but I think one (or even two?) is on a hiatus so there won't be a follow up any time soon. If they manage to make another album that good though i'll be claiming they're as good as Guardian (Mostly to annoy Pete, but that's not the point).

But seriously, they are lovely :heart:

I hate to say it, but I probably wouldn't have really liked them live if I wasn't loving their studio stuff. The singer kept looking down at the lyrics, and there wasn't much activity in general. With all the non-guitar tracks on their ballad, it was almost like kareoke.

[Pete Cash]

ahaha that is awful.

Is Jens Carlsson retarded or something.

Also Megawozniak have you got the new Wuthering Heights, because I love it.

[PepperCarrot]

ahaha that is awful.

Is Jens Carlsson retarded or something.

Also Megawozniak have you got the new Wuthering Heights, because I love it.

OMG new Wuthering Heights? Their last CD was amazing.

[Alex E]

Sc sorta made up for it by doing some weird britpop cover as an encore, it was hilarious actually.

Ah, Wuthering Heights, another band I happen to have seen /brag
I have the new one. I'll upload tonight or tomorrow, depending on when my internet decides to smarten the fuck up. Does anyone have the 4 dvd Therion set? I got it just before I got sick, watched it 4 times through half-conscious, and don't really have the urge to go through it again.

edit: oops, I didn't see the "I love it" part, didn't know you had it. I quite enjoy it, particularly Beautifool and Envy. I'm not sold on their first two, but FFTMC and this are good. I still haven't listened to 100% of it though, I'll have to do that soon.

[Pete Cash]

I haven't got the Therion DVD because it is really expensive at stores around here.

I might buy it when I have more cash though.

[Pete Cash]

Oi vote for black sabbath you dickheads

[cobra]

So I was at this kick ass Halloween show this past friday. The Show was hosted by Mistress Juliya former host from Fuse. There was a lot of sweet local bands there including my friends band Loss of Thoughts they sound really good you can check them out at myspace.com/lossofthoughts. But anyway the show kicked ass I got to meet Mistress Julyia I got an autograph and a picture taken with her. She is a really fucking hot in person. She also made out with this girl that I go to school with it was fucking sweet.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I think that's just an opinon though on Puppets

Of course it's my opinion. :p

It's not like these things can be stated as fact. Though I may try next time ;)

[Pete Cash]

It is a decent album, which inspired some shitty groups and is very overrated.

No more than 7/10 and is the beginning of the end for Metallica, as they replace thrash with progression that would ruin pop-metal forever.

Is it simply coincidence that Metallica arrived towards the end of the golden age of metal and was at their commercial peak during the dark age of metal?

Speaking of the metal scene... it is really fucking awesome at the moment.

[Hero!]

Speaking of the metal scene... it is really fucking awesome at the moment.

Care to elaborate Mr.Cash?

[Pete Cash]

Just how excellent some of the music being produced is at the moment; just this year alone there have been tons of good tunes.

Also last night I saw Nevermore and they were awesome. This Godless Endeavour is the best song I have ever heard live. Only disappointment was with Loomis actually... his solos were just copies of what he produces on the albums, which while these solos are top notch (and I would rate him as one of the better guitarists going around) I did want to see him shake it up a bit.

Warrell Dane was excellent though, his voice sounds better live than in the studio.

Loudest gig ever though. Black Majesty and Lord were awesome as normal.

[Hero!]

Nevermore are amazing.
What are your favorite bands? Well favorite modern bands.

[Pete Cash]

Tell me what you think modern is first, like do you mean still producing albums or been around for X years

[aBBy]

I finally got Arch Enemys album - Doomsday Machine. Been meaning to get that for a while. Really like it :D

[Hero!]

Tell me what you think modern is first, like do you mean still producing albums or been around for X years


Recent bands to have come out, like the last 5-8 years. I consider that recent.

[Bad Obsession]

You got to see Nevermore, Cash? Damn you! They're amazing, I'd kill to see them.
Have you heard Novembers Doom? They're very much like Nevermore.

As for good recent metal bands that have hit the scene in the last few years off the top of my head:
Agalloch, Ulver, Cult of Luna, Woods of Ypres, Isis, Velvet Cacoon, Winds, Sunn 0))), Drudkh etccc

Obviously there are loads more, but those are the big names that really stand out.

[darkhorse]

I saw Nevermore on the Chimaira/Arch Enemy tour earlier this year. They were amazing.

[Hero!]

You got to see Nevermore, Cash? Damn you! They're amazing, I'd kill to see them.
Have you heard Novembers Doom? They're very much like Nevermore.

As for good recent metal bands that have hit the scene in the last few years off the top of my head:
Agalloch, Ulver, Cult of Luna, Woods of Ypres, Isis, Velvet Cacoon, Winds, Sunn 0))), Drudkh etccc

Obviously there are loads more, but those are the big names that really stand out.

ahaha i've never heard of any of those bands!

[Tempest]

You should check out torrent sites like Kerazy Torrents. If nothing else it'll offer you a good deal of new bands you've never heard of to check out.

[Hero!]

You should check out torrent sites like Kerazy Torrents. If nothing else it'll offer you a good deal of new bands you've never heard of to check out.


I tried a torrent once, scariest experience of my life. :$

I didn't know what the heck to do!

[Tempest]

I tried a torrent once, scariest experience of my life. :$

I didn't know what the heck to do!


Ahaha it's a lot easier than it looks. In a nutshell, you need to download a program like 'Azureus', install it and then head on over to a torrent website. All you need to do from there is open the torrent and it will open in Azureus. Choose where to save it to and hey presto!

It is a little confusing at first with seeders and peers and the like, but all you really need to know is that the more seeders (People sharing) the better

[Hero!]

and where do I get "Azureus" from?

[Tempest]

http://sourceforge.net/projects/azureus/

[Hero!]

http://sourceforge.net/projects/azureus/

*rubs your bald head* :D
Muchos Gracias senhor!

[Bad Obsession]

ahaha i've never heard of any of those bands!
Really? They're not really obscure. :wtf: Most of the are considered the best in their genres.

[Hero!]

Really? They're not really obscure. :wtf: Most of the are considered the best in their genres.

what genres?

[Bad Obsession]

Black/Death mostly.

[Hero!]

Black/Death mostly.


Then you speak blasphemy!

[Bad Obsession]

Haha. Well I did say in recent years.

What recent black/death metal bands would you say are good? I don't really buy into boring crap like Childrem of Bodom etccc.

[Hero!]

Haha. Well I did say in recent years.

What recent black/death metal bands would you say are good? I don't really buy into boring crap like Childrem of Bodom etccc.

I don't know many recent Death/black metal bands, but ill just list the ones i like and if you know which ones are recent, well then...theres your answer!

As for black metal I :heart: Venom with such lust its almost impossible to contain myself RAWR!
But I also like Cradle of Filth (if you couldn't tell form the avvy), Celtic Frost, Dimmu Borgir, goatwhore (not positive if they're black metal though), Satyricon, and Venom once again:D

Death: Dying Fetus, Cattle Mutilation (sp?), In Flames, napalm Death, Nile, Obituary(:heart:), Scar Symmetry, Strapping young lad, and (i guess they fit in here even though they're "christian metal") Zao.

[Bad Obsession]

Some good stuff there. I absolutely :heart: Nile. Not heard of every band there so I'll probably check a few out. :yes:

Cradle of Filth and Dimmu Borgir let you down a bit ;)

[Hero!]

Some good stuff there. I absolutely :heart: Nile. Not heard of every band there so I'll probably check a few out. :yes:

Cradle of Filth and Dimmu Borgir let you down a bit ;)

Let...me..down..a..bit? :wtf: the heck does that mean?! For christ's sake speak english man!

[Bad Obsession]

Meaning they're rubbish. :p

[Hero!]

Meaning they're rubbish. :p


I will eat your soul SUCKA!

and yaknow what?! GNR SUCKS! muahahaha! take that!

[Cactus Lem]

I find Death Metal hard to listen to for any great length of time. Just becomes overly repetitive and I don't find much variation......

[Bad Obsession]

I tend to listen to it in short bursts. I couldn't listen to it all day. I really love black and death though because they're not like any other metal genre. It's great to listen to something that harsh.

At the same time, many bands who cross over to the lighter side of metal (folk/progressive) who also have black/death elements are what I really love. When mixed correctly it sounds amazing. Best example of this would be Woods of Ypres. They cross over into so many genres, even though their main sound is black.

[Tempest]

I'm a vocals whore, so death/black rarely appeal to me. But there are definately instances in which I can enjoy and even love a band in those genres

[Hero!]

I'm a vocals whore, so death/black rarely appeal to me. But there are definately instances in which I can enjoy and even love a band in those genres

IMO, Black and Death are the best type of vocals

[Cactus Lem]

I tend to listen to it in short bursts. I couldn't listen to it all day. I really love black and death though because they're not like any other metal genre. It's great to listen to something that harsh.

At the same time, many bands who cross over to the lighter side of metal (folk/progressive) who also have black/death elements are what I really love. When mixed correctly it sounds amazing. Best example of this would be Woods of Ypres. They cross over into so many genres, even though their main sound is black.

Yeah, don't get me wrong, there are a few Death Metal bands I enjoy, but again, only in small bursts. I have a couple of Death albums, that I rarley listen to, but whenever ever I do, always provide a good listen.

I can't stand messy Extreme Death Metal, shit like Gorerotted, and Canibal Corpse are bands I just don't get how anyone can listen to.

Wouldn't Opeth be a prime example of what you're speaking of in the second paragraph?

[Bad Obsession]

IMO, Black and Death are the best type of vocals
I agree.

I used to hate them when I was first getting into metal (keep in mind I was about 14), and didn't get them at all, but now I have so much more appreciation for them than any other type of vocals.
Hell, I can even understand a lot of it now. :p

Edit: Yes, Cactus, Opeth are a really good example of that.

[Tempest]

IMO, Black and Death are the best type of vocals


Blaaaah, i'm MUCH more fond of the cleaner style of vocals that you find in prog, power and speed. Vocals with range, power, emotion and a degree of depth do it for me a lot more than anything else (Not to suggest death/black can't have that within the context of the music). I like thrashy vocals a ton too, but give me a Geoff Tate, Russell Allen, Mike Baker, Ronnie Dio over just about anyone...

[Hero!]

Yeah, don't get me wrong, there are a few Death Metal bands I enjoy, but again, only in small bursts. I have a couple of Death albums, that I rarley listen to, but whenever ever I do, always provide a good listen.

I can't stand messy Extreme Death Metal, shit like Gorerotted, and Canibal Corpse are bands I just don't get how anyone can listen to.

Wouldn't Opeth be a prime example of what you're speaking of in the second paragraph?


Cannibal Corpse's vocals are Immense! :mad:

[Hero!]

I agree.

I used to hate them when I was first getting into metal (keep in mind I was about 14), and didn't get them at all, but now I have so much more appreciation for them than any other type of vocals.
Hell, I can even understand a lot of it now. :p

Edit: Yes, Cactus, Opeth are a really good example of that.

Same here, i got into metal when i was about 13 and i HATED death metal, but then i got into thrash and black and things like that with harsher vocals and now i just completly LOVE death metal vocals and I actually understand a lot of what they're saying too, but sometimes its better to just growl along with the song!

[Cactus Lem]

Blaaaah, i'm MUCH more fond of the cleaner style of vocals that you find in prog, power and speed. Vocals with range, power, emotion and a degree of depth do it for me a lot more than anything else (Not to suggest death/black can't have that within the context of the music). I like thrashy vocals a ton too, but give me a Geoff Tate, Russell Allen, Mike Baker, Ronnie Dio over just about anyone...

I'm with you there.

I love Thrashy vocals to bits, and I've got a thing for angry shouty vocals as well I find.

I find myself liking harsher vocals when used in the way that many Metalcore bands use them. For example, I love Killswitch Engage's mix of harsher vocals and melodic vocals.

[Hero!]

Blaaaah, i'm MUCH more fond of the cleaner style of vocals that you find in prog, power and speed. Vocals with range, power, emotion and a degree of depth do it for me a lot more than anything else (Not to suggest death/black can't have that within the context of the music). I like thrashy vocals a ton too, but give me a Geoff Tate, Russell Allen, Mike Baker, Ronnie Dio over just about anyone...

Do you like Scar symmetry? They have that style.(deathy into clean vox) If noone knows who im talking about go here and watch this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2LTaNb9zQQ

[Tempest]

Do you like Scar symmetry? They have that style.(deathy into clean vox) If noone knows who im talking about go here and watch this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2LTaNb9zQQ


I much prefer Soilwork :)

But they seem fun enough

[Cactus Lem]

Do you like Scar symmetry? They have that style.(deathy into clean vox) If noone knows who im talking about go here and watch this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2LTaNb9zQQ

Made an hour and a half journey down to Brighton last night, and back today, and my mate who was driving had Scar Symmetery on for a bit on the way down, until I got ahold of the iPod and put some Lostprophets on :D

He had them on for the whole jounry this morning though. Aftre about 4 hours sleep it was an awesome wake up cure I'll say that.

I dug some of thier riffage, but overall, they aren't a band I can say I truly like, I would listen to in my own time.

Oh yeh, I'm seeing Evergrey in London tomorow night.

[Hero!]

I much prefer Soilwork :)

But they seem fun enough

Soilwork are the sex, but i haven't listened to them in so long :(

[Alex E]

Hmmm...as far as vocals go, I can take death, but I like it in the context of a fun sounding song to counteract it, i.e. Ensiferum or Arch Enemy. Death vocals with blastbeats and random riffage don't do it for me, and I wouldn't listen to CC on my own time.

As far as Evergrey goes, they surprised me. I didn't think they were headliner calibre when I saw them in September, and they were awesome. Mind you, they had a choir and string section, but they're good.
17 days till Guardian!

[Tempest]

I've decided Edguys Rocket Ride annoys me. Simply because the Superheroes EP has 3 or 4 songs stronger than pretty much anything on the album

Find a way to work in Sacrifice, Catch Of The Century, Fucking With Fire, Judas At The Opera, The Spirit, Blessing In Disguise, Spooks In The Attic, Return To Tribe, Wasted Time, a shortened Asylum and Out Of Vogue in one album and you've got something to be proud of. Perhaps speeding up Superheroes may make that worthy too. NOT Trinidad :p

I love Edguy I do, but looking at the EP and the album I think they really cocked it up.

[Alex E]

I've decided Edguys Rocket Ride annoys me. Simply because the Superheroes EP has 3 or 4 songs stronger than pretty much anything on the album

Find a way to work in Sacrifice, Catch Of The Century, Fucking With Fire, Judas At The Opera, The Spirit, Blessing In Disguise, Spooks In The Attic, Return To Tribe, Wasted Time, a shortened Asylum and Out Of Vogue in one album and you've got something to be proud of. Perhaps speeding up Superheroes may make that worthy too. NOT Trinidad :p

I love Edguy I do, but looking at the EP and the album I think they really cocked it up.


I'd agree with some of that. I'd take the RR ballad Save Me over Blessing in Disguise though. Spooks and Judas were great, and I do think that a lot of RR could have been shortened and tightened up - Wasted Time would be great if it lost a minute or more.

What are everyone's top 5 shows that they've seen? It's tough to choose, I'd say in no particular order-
Therion
Arch Enemy
Nightwish
Gamma Ray
Rage

I'm hoping the Guardian show this month will get in there.

[Tempest]

I like Save Me, but much prefer a lot of Edguys stuff to it that's not made albums like Blessing and Holy Water. But yeah, I just feel that RR was poorly arranged given that they had much stronger material (Judas being a track that I feel goes up against their best, to be honest)

As for my top gigs, i've not been to many decent and i'd find it hard to order them

Fozzy is oddly my top gig so far as they were so much bloody fun. Odd really as that's up against Guardian and Ryche who I love a lot more. I think it's partly to do with this countries gay curfew rules at venues with Fozzy playing about an hour longer than the others. Ryche were my dream gig though, so it's hard to put anything up against them - Especially with Tate sounding close to his best in a time where he's sounded good, but past his peak

[Alex E]

Yeah, holy water was a mistake to put there. Then again, why would someone buy the single if it had shitty material? I also remember Tobi saying that they would play material off Superheroes, even Judas. Have they been doing that lately? I wouldn't mind seeing Fozzy, it seems like they'd be a rocking good time. I've been listening more to the new Wuthering Heights. It's great for a while, but it really is a bit same-y.

Ryche didn't really do it for me live, but to be fair I don't really know much of them. Also, I was balcony and the thrown drumstick hit me painfully in the face. Guy's got an arm. I didn't even grab it, either.

[aBBy]

My metal tastes are varied. I don't mind abit of Death/Vampiric Metal like Arch Enemy, Naglfar and Dissection, even abit of thrash/speed like Machine Head and Nevemore and Heavy and Melodic like In Flames and Killswitch.

I love them all, but I have my limits and one band I'm finding hard to get into is Cradle Of Filth. I can listen to abit of there stuff but I can't sit there and listen to a whole album of theres.

[Cactus Lem]

Thats probably because Cradle of Filth are shit :D

Top 5 shows live? Not bands? If I'm going for overall shows then...

Slayer, Killswitch Engage, Mastodon - Unholy Alliance Tour - Los Angeles, Universal Studios
Metallica- Earls Court, London
Killswitch Engage - Cadmen Underworld, London
Coheed and Cambria, Thrice - Brixton Academy, London
Hatebreed - Wedgewood Rooms, Portsmouth

If I was to list top 5 performances, I'd include festivals, so it would end up looking a little different.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Damn I'm trying to remember 5 gigs I've been to.

Anthrax/Soilwork
Machinehead/Slayer
Edguy (2wice)
Nightwish

err... who else have I seen. I can't think of anymore.

[Hero!]

Thats probably because Cradle of Filth are shit :D


I no longer love you :mad:

[blackening]

My metal tastes are varied. I don't mind abit of Death/Vampiric Metal like Arch Enemy, Naglfar and Dissection, even abit of thrash/speed like Machine Head and Nevemore and Heavy and Melodic like In Flames and Killswitch.

I love them all, but I have my limits and one band I'm finding hard to get into is Cradle Of Filth. I can listen to abit of there stuff but I can't sit there and listen to a whole album of theres.

i think I pretty much agree. I'm not really a fan of death metal, though I did have Six Feet Under's Maximum Violence. It was ok, but I don't listen to it and gave it away.

[Nemesis]

Six Feet Under is hit-or-miss for me. Not the best death metal by any means, but Maximum Violence had a few catchy ones. Then I bought Bringer of Blood, and it was the most horrible piece of shit I've heard in the last several years.

I like death metal quite a bit, but it's not really something you can jump into, from my experience. It's something that I've slowly progressed to throughout the years. You'll hear something that's a little heavier than what you're used to, and you'll like it a lot, then it'll help you appreciate even heavier shit later on. Or something. Hell, I can remember when I heard Pantera, White Zombie, etc., and hated them all the first times I'd heard them, because I thought the vocals were too crazy.

I think I progressed like:

Slaughter => Alice in Chains => Metallica => (New) Anthrax => Pantera => Slayer => (Heartwork-era) Carcass => In Flames => Cradle of Filth => Cannibal Corpse => Deicide => Nasum etc. etc....

Wow, what a dumb post. My bad.

[Alex E]

Wow, what a dumb post. My bad.

Nah, I sorta like the idea. I agree that heavy stuff does need a progression. I went (over 6 years): Metallica - Hammerfall - Nightwish - Blind Guardian - Children of Bodom - Arch Enemy - etc. Now that I think about it, I probably try to convert people too often by using inappropriately heavy stuff.

[Hero!]

When I was 9 I loved metallica and then somehow I went from metallica to....eminem. Thank goodness i eventually got back into metallica, which got me into more thrash then from the thrash i really got into death, Grindcore, sludge, and black.

Edit: Forgot to ask, anyone here like The Human Abstract? I'm really getting into them and their album "Nocturne" is one of my favorites from 2006

[Bad Obsession]

I only really got into metal in the last year. I agree that nearly everyone starts on the soft stuff, then works their way up.

I think I was just shy of 15 when I started listening to bands such as System of a Down and Trivium. They seemed REALLY heavy to me at the time. Haha.
From there I moved onto Black Sabbath and Maiden, which again seemed like a huge step up. I then went onto thrash such as Pantera and Slayer.
Then I discovered bands such as Opeth which lead me onto the REALLY heavy bands like Burzum, Emperor and Drudkh. Which is about as heavy as you can get.

So in a year and a bit I've gone from SOAD to Drudkh. Haha.

[blackening]

i started off with bands like Slipknot, Rob Zombie, KoRn, Mudvayne, etc. i was a huge Slipknot fan 5 years ago when i was all depressed and shit. :$ but hey, you have to start some where.

then i pretty much went on the internet, listened to the metal show on the radio, and listened to the metal channel on TV. i got hooked on 'The Quiet Place' by In Flames and i bought In Flames' 'The Jester Race' and Children of Bodom's 'Follow the Reaper' and things took off from there.

:dunno:

[Pete Cash]

Opinion divided on a new metallica song.

I think it sounds kinda fun, Tempest hates it

[Tempest]

I don't hate it. I think it's hilariously meh

WHOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWHOAWHOA WHOOOAAAAAA WHOA WHOA WHOAAAAA

[Pete Cash]

I will be singing that WOOAAAAAHWOAAH part for ages now.

[Tempest]

They are some pretty special lyrics, let me tell you

[Pete Cash]

It wasn't bad you shithead.

For starters its a bootleg so neither of us are going to be able to make HUGE judgements... it is better than the other one (two I can't remember)

[Tempest]

:lol: I just find it really funny. It's not horrendous like the other one, no. But that doesn't make this one particularly good, now does it ;)

Although I much prefer the power sound to the mind numbing awful sound of the other

[Pete Cash]

Any of you freaks wanna listen

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JUAHZRVG

It is certainly not horrible in my opinion... well the vocals are

[Cactus Lem]

Is this the new song they played at some festival in Japan?

If so theres a clean version up on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snPAOzp2YOA&mode=related&search=

Personally I liked it, nice intro. The other new song was St Anger with a solo.

On how I get into Metal, basically my mate bought Limp Bizkit - Chocolate Starfish in December 2000, I borrowed it from him, liked it, he had me listen to The Offspring - Americana, I liked that, bought Conspiracy of One by The Offspring. Kerrang TV started in about March of 2001, they played a lot of commercial Alternative stuff which I got into, e.g. Paparoach, Green Day, Sum 41.

Around the same time, I used to go round to a mates house quite a bit and play Smackdown or Fifa with him and his brother, his brother would always put his music on, and one day he put Guns N Roses - Appetite For Destruction on. I fell in love with it's general sound, and found an instant love for the guitar solo. I purchased Appetite myself, and listened to it evey day for months on end.

So basically GnR where the first band I can truly say I loved, and the first 'proper' band I got into. From GnR I then got into some of Bon Jovi's old stuff, like Slippery, and then Metallica. I remember the first time I listened to Master of Puppets, I was totally mesmerized with the style, never hearing anything like it before. From there I read up on Metallica quite a bit, and wanted to hear more Thrash Metal. I then got into Megadeth, Anthrax and Pantera. When I first heard Pantera I thought they where like the heaviest thing ever, but totally loved it.

I also checked out God Hates Us All by Slayer just after it was released, and as I was getting into Thrash, and tell the truth I hated it. I didn't get into Slayer mid 2003, after hearing Seasons in the Abyss, and then Reign In Blood. I loved both albums, and then and kept on getting into heavier and heavier thrash. I then discovered the liked of Testament, Exodus, Overkill etc.

From there my tastes haven't progressed rapidly by any means. I've gotten into a bit of Prog/Power, sort of first happend after checking out some Dream Theater about a year and a half ago, and then I got into Symphony X, Queensryche etc.

I also got big into Metalcore, mainly due to it's Thrashy influence. I love bands like Killswitch Engage, Shadows Fall, Hatebreed, Chimara etc.

[Bad Obsession]

You bring up a good point for my metal adventure, Cactus. If it wasn't for GN'R getting me into hard rock, I never would've started on the nu-metal bands I listed up there. That album showed me there's much better stuff out there than the mainstream crap I was being fed.
I'm not quite sure how I skipped that in my last post, since AFD is basically the album that changed my life. :yes:

I must say it's odd how I just skipped the Metallica phase that nearly all metalheads seem to have. After listening to GN'R, Metallica are the next natural step really, but I went in a different direction. I often wonder that if I tried out Metallica before other metal bands I'd be a fan of theirs.

[Hero!]

Yaknow I hate GNR with a passion. I don't think i'm a normal metalhead :(

[Bad Obsession]

GN'R aren't metal though. :\

[Hero!]

GN'R aren't metal though. :\


thats why i hate 'em ;)

Its just that most metalheads i know (i.e. my sister and brother in law) love GNR. I just really don't get why. I guess its just becuase i'm into heavier music

[Bad Obsession]

I think it has a lot to do with first loves, as Cactus said. Granted, I'm way more obsessed with GN'R than most people (I even set up a fansite recently - GNRForever.co.uk), but I can understand why people forever love the band that changed their perspective on music. Love them or hate them, you've got to admit that they're an extremely influencial band to most who listen to them.

Man, conversations always get around to GN'R sooner or later with me around. :$

Back to the metal..erm. 666! \m/

[Cactus Lem]

I think it has a lot to do with first loves, as Cactus said. Granted, I'm way more obsessed with GN'R than most people (I even set up a fansite recently - GNRForever.co.uk), but I can understand why people forever love the band that changed their perspective on music. Love them or hate them, you've got to admit that they're an extremely influencial band to most who listen to them.

Man, conversations always get around to GN'R sooner or later with me around. :$

Back to the metal..erm. 666! \m/

Yeah I never forget my first loves, I don't get how anybody can really, friends of mine just seem to forget and move on, I remember and move on with fond memories. This happens with everything I'm into really, I love my first wrestling PPV to this day, love childhood TV shows (Transformers :D) and love the music that influenced who I am today.

Appetite for Destruction, Master of Puppets and Reign in Blood are the albums that kinda define me as a person. As sad and as weird as that sounds, I think we all have albums that can be thought of in that way.......

[Bad Obsession]

I don't think it's sad in the slightest, I think it's awesome. That's the beauty of music, when you can connect with it, it's the best thing in the world.

[Tempest]

Oh I still love all the stuff that got me to where I am. I'll still listen to Korn and Disturbeds first album with a smile on my face. It's nice to remember how you progressed with your tastes. I'm lucky in that I got into metal with the better stuff from the get go. I mean I did the nu-metal thing briefly, but as I got into it further I mostly went straight to Ryche and the stuff I like to this day, mostly thanks to Pete

Although I did discover Shadow Gallery

[Hero!]

My first love is still my favorite band. I love metallica, although i also still listen to some of the bands that pointed me in the direction of heavy metal like SlipKnoT(shh don't tell anyone!) Old greenday, Nirvana, and my ultimate guilty pleasure...michael jackson. :D

[Pete Cash]

Oh I still love all the stuff that got me to where I am. I'll still listen to Korn and Disturbeds first album with a smile on my face. It's nice to remember how you progressed with your tastes. I'm lucky in that I got into metal with the better stuff from the get go. I mean I did the nu-metal thing briefly, but as I got into it further I mostly went straight to Ryche and the stuff I like to this day, mostly thanks to Pete

Although I did discover Shadow Gallery

You are a fag :blah: :blah: :blah: (about the Shadow Gallery business)

My first metal group was Metallica... plus all the traditional heavy metal groups my dad listens to.

[blackening]

Any of you freaks wanna listen

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JUAHZRVG

It is certainly not horrible in my opinion... well the vocals are

that song was pretty crappy.

[Pete Cash]

I liked it, it is difficult to tell how anything will sound because of the mix being a pile of shit because it is live (and a bootleg at that).

It is as close to thrash as they have been in years. Power Chords mixed with fast tremolo picking (I am not sure if that is EXACTLY what I would call it, but it is power chords mixed with individual notes which is what Thrash metal is basically) two solos, I MEAN TWO SOLOS.

It has potential.

What sucks is Hetfield being WAY to the front and the lyrics... if the WOAAAAHWOOAH YEAH part actually becomes something that is a little bit better than that (I mean basically anything will do) and his voice isn't so STANDING out... I think it could be ok.

Which is vastly better than the last song which is basically SHIT !

The song actual reminds me of the album Kill 'em all, which can only be a good thing.

[Pete Cash]

You got to see Nevermore, Cash? Damn you! They're amazing, I'd kill to see them.
Have you heard Novembers Doom? They're very much like Nevermore.

As for good recent metal bands that have hit the scene in the last few years off the top of my head:
Agalloch, Ulver, Cult of Luna, Woods of Ypres, Isis, Velvet Cacoon, Winds, Sunn 0))), Drudkh etccc

Obviously there are loads more, but those are the big names that really stand out.

You can get a big chunk of these groups from (for those interested):

http://xpeh.harddays.net/index.php?lt=all

I am going to check out a few of them later on.

Also Bad Obsession have you heard of Empyrium, they have broke up now, but I am a fan of their albums... I think it would be up your alley.

ROLLEYES

Fuck you megaupload you faggots...anyways Forrest Stream are cool and I did have a link here, but it is no longer valid.

[Tempest]

I discovered that site, too.

[Pete Cash]

FUCK YOU

I am signing onto MSN right this second to yell at you

[Tempest]

Bit harsh. You should be nicer to the man who discovers the things you love so dearly.

I discovered me too.

[Bad Obsession]

Also Bad Obsession have you heard of Empyrium, they have broke up now, but I am a fan of their albums... I think it would be up your alley.

A few of my metalhead friends have talked about them, but I can't recall ever getting any songs of theirs.

I'll download an album later. :yes:

[Cactus Lem]

Oh I still love all the stuff that got me to where I am. I'll still listen to Korn and Disturbeds first album with a smile on my face. It's nice to remember how you progressed with your tastes. I'm lucky in that I got into metal with the better stuff from the get go. I mean I did the nu-metal thing briefly, but as I got into it further I mostly went straight to Ryche and the stuff I like to this day, mostly thanks to Pete

Although I did discover Shadow Gallery

Love it.

I still whack on Chocolate Starfish from time to time for a good laugh. As I've got older it's struck me more and more just how bad the album is, lyrically it's just so bad it's funny. I swear Durst is generally dumb, or he wrote the album drunk. Still it deserves a lot of credit. If it wasn't for that album, me and my mates wouldn't be into a lot of the stuff we are into today.

There are a few other albums I listen to from time to time much in the same way. Rage Against the Machine's first album, which I still LOVE, Blink 182 - Enema of the State is another, which I ussually listen to with mates on a car journey or something. It seems that we listened to that album so much back in the day that we can still sing a long to more or less every word.

There where a couple of other albums I'd listen to in the same way, The Offspring - Conspiracy of One, and Dookie by Green Day, but when I took a listen to them for about the first time in a year over the summer, I just couldn't get into them, which I found kinda weird. Ah well.....

On the Nu Metal stage, I don't think I really had one. I went through the 'Kerrang' stage if you could call it that, when the TV channel started up in March 2001, but it was the more Pop Punk sort of stuff I prefered, e.g. Blink 182, Greeen Day, Sum 41, Offsrping etc, Limp Bizkit where the only Nu-Metal band I really got into.

The majority of my mates where into stuff like Disturbed, Spineshank, Ill Nino, Slipknot, Soulfly, Fear Factory, Deftones Lostprophets, SOAD etc. I just never liked any of that stuff, I thought it all sounded to samey, I didn't like the Roaring vocals, and it just bored me. Now I look back it's quite funny, as all my mates will openly admit to liking some complete crap, but I have no such embarssment as I didn't like any of it. Although saying that Lostprophets have become one of my fave bands over time.

As all the people I hung out with got into rubbish, I was getting into Guns N Roses, Metallica and Pantera :D They took a while to catch up.....

[Pete Cash]

I am starting to dig folk/black metal... but the production in a lot of these groups needs a clean up for fucksake.

EDIT

Yus I have grave digger... time to nerd it up :D

[Nemesis]

I'm liking more of the raw black metal stuff, like on Behemoth's "Rising Proudly Towards the Sky" (don't remember the album it's from). Nice vintage sound, but the production still comes through clear...doesn't really have a murky sound to it at all. 1349 also isn't too bad of a band in this respect.

I've also heard Goat Horns by Nokturnal Mortum, but I'm not completely sure what I think of that sound yet. It's definitely different, kind of endearing in a way, I guess. Too bad they're white supremacist fuckheads. :\

[Ms. Morningstar]

Virgin Steele- Visions of Eden might be my favorite album ever.

[Pete Cash]

Fucksake.

I will have to take that offer up to sleep on your floor outlaw ;) Blind guardian are touring BUT ONLY MELBOURNE SO FAR WTF GUYS.

[aBBy]

Fucksake.

I will have to take that offer up to sleep on your floor outlaw ;) Blind guardian are touring BUT ONLY MELBOURNE SO FAR WTF GUYS.

Yeh I know, they're coming down in February 2007.

But stuff that...I'm excited about TRIVIUM! They're finally coming down in January. Man, I've been waiting for bloody ages. They've been added to the Big Day Out card but I'm not going to that. Instead I'm going to there show at the Palace. I think tickets go on sale Nov 23rd. So happy about this :D

[Pete Cash]

I am actually going to drive 10 hours to see a band :)

That is why I am a loser :D

[Bad Obsession]

Anyone else here been to see Opeth on their UK tour yet?

Saw them on Friday night - absolutely stunning. I saw them for the first time at the Download Festival this year but they blew that performance away good and proper.
Pretty good setlist too, they varied the albums a lot (playing stuff from Orchid all the way to Deliverence) and absolutely nailed everything. As you'd expect.

One of the best gigs I've ever been to.

[aBBy]

*BUMP*

I brought Killswitch Engage's new album today but I still havent had a chance to listen to it. From the couple of tracks I've heard, it sounded alright, but it had the same style as there previous album End Of Heartache. Has anyone else listened to it and if so, how will you rate it. I'll put up my opinion once I've listened to the album properly.

Trivium's headline show tickets go on sale next Thursday at 9am! :D

[Hero!]

*BUMP*

I brought Killswitch Engage's new album today but I still havent had a chance to listen to it. From the couple of tracks I've heard, it sounded alright, but it had the same style as there previous album End Of Heartache. Has anyone else listened to it and if so, how will you rate it. I'll put up my opinion once I've listened to the album properly.

Trivium's headline show tickets go on sale next Thursday at 9am! :D

i got the album about 2-3 days ago, i listened to a few tracks and nothing really impressed me. I'm gonna listen to the whole today though, i skipped school and have nothing better to do.

[Cactus Lem]

Yeah I feel exactly the same about it. I've had it for well over a month now, and every listen has just had me thinking it's good but just nowhere near as spectacular as Alive or Just Breathing, or The End of the Heartache.

They haven't really shown any great signs of improvement from the last album, which is ashame considering I see them as one of my all time favourite bands.

[Hero!]

so i just listened to the whole KSE album, and its good. really good actually, but not as good as the end of heartache was. i dunno why though, i just dont liek it as much.

[Pete Cash]

My best friend loves KsE so no doubt I will be listening to it all the time.

[Alex E]

5 days until Guardian, wooooooooooooooo.
*contributes to thread* :shifty:

[PepperCarrot]

The new Wuthering Heights is pretty damn good. Not as good as Far From The Madding Crowd, but certainly a great album.

[Pete Cash]

5 days until Guardian, wooooooooooooooo.
*contributes to thread* :shifty:

Only a few months to guardian for me :D

and a huge car trip :(

[Alex E]

The new Wuthering Heights is pretty damn good. Not as good as Far From The Madding Crowd, but certainly a great album.

yeah, i thought it was better from listening to a few songs, then I sat down and listened to the whole thing, slightly lowering my views. I love the bollard off FFTMC, I must say.

I've been listening to the new Therion for a couple of days...I heard Trul first, and thought I was listening to a surprisingly good Falconer album. I can't judge everything yet as I've only listened once while distracted, but it seems very good. Production is better than Lemuria/Sirius B.

[Pete Cash]

New therion eh.... I will have to track it down.

[aBBy]

I just finished listening to the whole Killswitch Engage album.

It is pretty similar to The End Of Heartache, but not as great. I thought it would be worse but it turned out to be an alright listen however I can see where Cactus Lem is coming from though as it just seems like we have already heard that stuff and nothing really new.

But since I'm a big Killswitch Engage fan, I guess I'll let it pass and enjoy there latest offering. The second track (This Is Absolution) is probably my favourite track from it.

[Cactus Lem]

Slayer, In Flames, Lamb of God, Children of Bodom and Thine Eyes Bleed today :D

[aBBy]

The Unholy Alliance Tour? Ohhh your so lucky! I wish that tour came Down Under.

[Cactus Lem]

Yep thats right.

I went to the Unholy Alliance in 2004 over here as well with Slayer, Slipknot, Hatebreed and Mastodon.

I'm a big fan of three of those four bands, but the sho just wasn't that great. I hadn't heard any Mastodon at that point, they'd just broken out, put on a good performance that had me sold on them alone, but they got a 20 minute set, which was nothing. Hatebreed's sound just didn't suit the size of the venue, and out of the five times I've seen Hatebreed, it remains the worst by a mile. Slayer were awesome, played a great set, but only got an hour and a quater and didn't go on last, as that place went to fucking Slipknot, who I thought sucked.

This time round it should be much better.

[Alex E]

Man, that tour is still going? I saw this year's Unholy Alliance in the spring or summer sometime. Good show, I took my friend who always bashes metal and doesn't know anything about it. He loved watching Slayer, and couldn't believe the speed, etc.

wait, you get in flames and I get mastodon? boooooo

[King101]

I saw the Manchester leg of the Unholy Alliance earlier this month, was completely insane, don't really know anything of TEB but CoB, LoG, In Flames and Slayer were absolutely fantastic.

Bodom completely blew me away, id never really got into them on record but since seeing them live I havn't stopped listening to them.

On a side note; im seeing Tool & Mastodon on Friday and am starting to get excited every time I think about it.

[Hero!]

Man, that tour is still going? I saw this year's Unholy Alliance in the spring or summer sometime. Good show, I took my friend who always bashes metal and doesn't know anything about it. He loved watching Slayer, and couldn't believe the speed, etc.

wait, you get in flames and I get mastodon? boooooo

:mad: and what is wrong with Mastadon?

[Daddy Yankee]

:mad: and what is wrong with Mastadon?

Absolutely nothing!;)

[Cactus Lem]

Good night last night, not amazing but good.

Missed Thine Eyes Bleed, and only saw Children of Bodom's last two tracks due to the District Line on the Underground having works done. Wasn't all that bothered though.

Didn't enjoy what I saw of Bodom really, but I ain't a fan anyway.

Lamb of God funnily enough where the first band I ever saw live, supporting Slayer in July 2003, and this was the first time I'd seen them since. I knew nothing about them then, but being a fan these days and hearing awesome live reports I was looking foward to seeing them. Gotta say I was a little dissapointed. I think reviews may be over hyping them as live performers really, good performance but nothing special. Insane pits at times.

In Flames had to be the most enjoyable I've seen them so far, and I was expecting that really. Seen them twice before, both times at Download, two decent performances, but by their own admission they weren't up for it at this years Download, which was understandable due to their slot and the time of day. Decent set comprised of material from most of their albums, shame we didn't get anything from Whoracle or a little more Colony :( Still a good set though.

Slayer once again where fucking awesome. I wasn't looking foward to seeing them anywhere near as much as I have done in previous years, but once the opening Drum Beat hit for Disciple something just clicked and I got a huge rush. Was going mad for the majority of the set, I never go in Mosh Pits, but I ended up in a few last night due to pure adrenaline more than anything. Another great performance, and they remain the most consistently amazing live badn I've ever seen.

[blackening]

man... you guys got to go to the Unholy Alliance Tour and all i'm going is the Music As a Weapon Tour with Disturbed, Stone Sour, Flylead, and Nonpoint! :$

plus when it came to Wisconsin, it was Mastodon, not In Flames. then i would have been even more pissed i didnt go. in a couple years i plan going to all the big concerts in Milwaukee and Madison.

one thing is for sure, especially with the In Flames lineup, the Unholy Alliance tour kicked this year's Ozzfest's ass.

[aBBy]

I got Trivium tickets!!! I took the morning off work just to make sure I don't miss out.

It's so great. Its not for another 2 months, but I'm pumped! :D

[Alex E]

Man, Guardian was awesome. Great crowd that knew all the words. I had one of my best concert going moments ever...they played mirror mirror last, and with 30 seconds left I suddenly decided to throw myself up top and crowd surf, and I ended up in the middle in the front rows in a sitting position facing the crowd, conducting the "woooah ooohs".

[blackening]

awesome

:yes:

i hope to see them if they ever come to Wisconsin in the future.

[Tempest]

Heard the new Megadeth track yet, people?

I'm finding it quite enjoyable. Really reminds me of something though...

[Hero!]

Heard the new Megadeth track yet, people?

I'm finding it quite enjoyable. Really reminds me of something though...

whats it called?

[PepperCarrot]

whats it called?

SUPER SATURDAY? I DON'T KNOW!!!!!!!!

Tempest : I'M PISSED NOW!

[Aussie_Outlaw]

whats it called?

Gears of War.

[Deathcow]

The new KSE album is decent...sounds somewhat like The End of Heartache.

What the fuck is with the radio versions of their singles? They suck balls..."My Curse" sounds terrible the way they have it for the radio (and video).

I miss Jesse Leach. :(

[Hero!]

Yeah i noticed how they have an album version of a song and then some kind of crap radio/video version I don't really get the point of that, but ehhh whatever floats their boat.

I'm looking for that new megadeth song on limewire, but i can't find it :(

[blackening]

i downloaded the Blind Guardian live set. it's immense, i was singing the Valhalla chorus at work. i'm going to get the Blind Guardian DVD set for Christmas, might order it today as well.

[Pete Cash]

Yeah, the DVD is awesomeness.

[aBBy]

This is alittle out of subject but has anyone watched the In Flames DVD? I think its from last year and focuses on there Soundtrack To Your Escape world tour. I forgot what its called...but its pretty good. I borrowed it off a friend, and really want a copy but can't seem to find it anywhere.

Also, does anyone have the Killswitch Engage DVD, and if so, is it any good?

[eugenespeed]

Speaking of DVD's, does anyone have the Fear Factory - Digital Connectivity DVD, if so, is it any good?

[Cactus Lem]

Also, does anyone have the Killswitch Engage DVD, and if so, is it any good?

I got it for Christmas last year, and I think it's prety damn good.

It has a really awesome Documentary that lasts somewhere around an hour and a half - two hours, and a sweet live performance from Boston.

I'd say it's woth picking up.

[blackening]

This is alittle out of subject but has anyone watched the In Flames DVD? I think its from last year and focuses on there Soundtrack To Your Escape world tour. I forgot what its called...but its pretty good. I borrowed it off a friend, and really want a copy but can't seem to find it anywhere.

Used and Abused... In Live We Trust.

http://www.samgoody.com/Music/Album.aspx?p_id=P+++200319&a_id=R+++796309&PersonID=P

$20 on Sam Goody. I've seen it on eBay as well.

thought about buying it, but it has too much Reroute to Remain and Soundtrack to Your Escape.

[aBBy]

I got it for Christmas last year, and I think it's prety damn good.

It has a really awesome Documentary that lasts somewhere around an hour and a half - two hours, and a sweet live performance from Boston.

I'd say it's woth picking up.

Yeh I think I will definetly pick it up as I've heard some good things about it.

[humanimal]

Yeah i noticed how they have an album version of a song and then some kind of crap radio/video version I don't really get the point of that, but ehhh whatever floats their boat.

I'm looking for that new megadeth song on limewire, but i can't find it :(

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/12321/Megadeths-Gears-of-War-Song-Available-for-Download/

[Cactus Lem]

thought about buying it, but it has too much Reroute to Remain and Soundtrack to Your Escape.

They play far to much material from those two average albums Live. It annoys me.

[blackening]

well, i'm assuming they play less than before because of Come Clarity. a concert with songs from only Jester Race/Clayman/Whoracle/Colony/Come Clarity would be great.

[aBBy]

They said they may do another DVD, and if they do, I hope this time it focuses more on Jester and Whoracle and even Come Clarity. The DVD was from 2005 so Come Clarity wasnt out yet.

I didnt mind the Soundtrack To Your Escape album too much, but Jester Race, Whoracle and Come Clarity are my favourite albums of theres.

[Cactus Lem]

Come Clarity is honestly my favourite In Flames album, absolutley love it, one of my fave albums this year easily.

After Come Clarity, I'd probably rank Colony and Clayman as my next two favourites, with Jester Race and Whoracle just behind those.

I haven't really listened to Soutdtrack To Your Escape, but I didn't thin much of what I heard, same with Reroute to Remain really.

[aBBy]

I didnt really like Clayman that much actually, and Colony is the only other album of theres I dont have but I heard it wasnt that great so I didnt bother with it. Is it worth getting or just downloading?

[Cactus Lem]

Give it a download.

Some awesome guitar work on the album, and it has Behind Space 99 which is my favourite In Flames track ever.

[blackening]

:yes:

I second that, great guitar work. It's worth a download for sure.

I love Jester Race, but I think I love the vocal styles of Clayman/Colony/Whoracle and Come Clarity more. the vocals are still badass and similar, but easier to understand.

[Pete Cash]

Vote for Megadeth in the poll thingy... or DIE.

[WizoOzz]

I didnt really like Clayman that much actually, and Colony is the only other album of theres I dont have but I heard it wasnt that great so I didnt bother with it. Is it worth getting or just downloading?

Blasphemy!

Colony is greatness all the way through. It's pretty much the turning point in the band's sound. It's still heavier than hell, but you can see where they went from here to get to Clayman, which was, in my opinion, their first push to be accepted in the mainstream. While I'm not into them as much now, In Flames' Colony is one of the albums that I'd swear by. If you don't like this album, you don't like In Flames.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Colony is their best. Everyone knows this.

[Tempest]

Anyone heard Mystic Force before? They're CORKERS.

Sounds like Rage For Order era Queensryche - Vocalist sounds like Tate too which is a lovely bonus

Check them out people :yes:

All it needs now is some robot vocals like Tate and they'll be set.

...I think I will draw myself a robot Geoff Tate sig

Bzzzzt love does not compute.

[blackening]

Lost in the Twlight Hall is pretty immense, especially the opening.

:yes:

[Ringo]

JUST A BIT kane-a-nite JUST A BIT

[Tempest]

I prefer WELCOME TO DYING

T'was my favourite song of the night live, too.

I'VE LOST MYSELF A FEW DAYS AGO, IT'S TOUCHING MY SOUUUUUL

[Ringo]

THERE'S ONLY ONE SONG... LEFT IN MY MIND

TAAALES OF A BRAVE MAN, WHO LIVED FAR FROM HEEEERE....

[aBBy]

Blasphemy!

Colony is greatness all the way through. It's pretty much the turning point in the band's sound. It's still heavier than hell, but you can see where they went from here to get to Clayman, which was, in my opinion, their first push to be accepted in the mainstream. While I'm not into them as much now, In Flames' Colony is one of the albums that I'd swear by. If you don't like this album, you don't like In Flames.

Yeh? Well when I heard Behind Space, I really liked it and thought Colony might actually be a good album, but reserved getting it incase it might not be that great but since you guys are giving it great reviews, I might get it now.

[Hero!]

So theres this band that i'm obsessed with right now called "the Human Abstract". I'm really not sure what genre they fit into, but they're fantastic and i think everyone should give them a listen.

http://myspace.com/thehumanabstract

and heres their first video (and my favorite song by them) Called "Vela, together we await the storm"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u9KDMWJsAM

[Bad Obsession]

I'd say it edges on the hardcore/melodic sound.
Not really a fan of that. Sounds a bit generic. 1000 other bands out there that sound the same.

I just finished listening to Operation Mindcrime 2 after realising it was criminal I hadn't yet. I really don't like it. :( My friends who said it was rather shit were right. Oh well.

[aBBy]

Anyone here a fan of Threat Signal? I picked up there album Under Reprisal the other day. Its a pretty good listen. Not bad at all from this Canadian band.

[Tempest]

I'd say it edges on the hardcore/melodic sound.
Not really a fan of that. Sounds a bit generic. 1000 other bands out there that sound the same.

I just finished listening to Operation Mindcrime 2 after realising it was criminal I hadn't yet. I really don't like it. :( My friends who said it was rather shit were right. Oh well.


I don't see how it's shit at all. It's no Mindcrime, but it never was going to be. It's a good solid album...

[Bad Obsession]

It just really bored me.

[Pete Cash]

It fucking dies towards the end but I enjoy it for the most part... probably a 7/10

[Crabby]

Anyone here a fan of Threat Signal? I picked up there album Under Reprisal the other day. Its a pretty good listen. Not bad at all from this Canadian band.

I was sent a promo copy of it and wasn't overly thrilled by it, but if you dig that kind of sound it's worth a listen.

I've been loving the latest efforts from Into Eternity, Mastodon, Isis and Mercenary of late, all top-notch efforts. "The Scattering Of Ashes" is particularly excellent: some of those songs are so infectious it should be illegal.

In fact (blatant plug time), if you wanna read my interview with IE's Tim Roth, enjoy-

http://www.pyromusic.net/index.php?p=interviews_interview&interview=Into_Eternity&id=34

[aBBy]

Nevermore is a band I have to get into more I've been told by one of my metal-head friends.

[Tempest]

Your metal-head friend is spot on. Nevermore are bloody awesome :yes:

[Crabby]

I caught Nevermore last month and espite the fact Warrel was sick at the time, they were fantastic. Five songs from "Dead Heart" made my night.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Are you back for good now Crabby?

I blame you for the Megadeth loss. We lose by 1 vote and then you return. It's clearly you're doing.

And Nevermore's Dead Heart is their best album by a mile. Cos I say so.

[Pete Cash]

No it isn't ;)

I would rate TGE as probably my second favourite metal album of all time (behind Blind Guardians IFTOS), the title track (which they played live and I screamed my face off singing along to) is one of my favourite metal tracks ever.

Also the whole album is just one fucking awesome spin. I also like Dreaming Neon Black and the remastered Enemies of Reality (which is totally rad) as much as Dead heart.

Crabby did you go to the friday or saturday show. (or both ??)

[Crabby]

I guess I am back for good David.

Seeing as I am, all of you check out www.pyromusic.net , with some content written by yours truly.

[Crabby]

No it isn't ;)

I would rate TGE as probably my second favourite metal album of all time (behind Blind Guardians IFTOS), the title track (which they played live and I screamed my face off singing along to) is one of my favourite metal tracks ever.

Also the whole album is just one fucking awesome spin. I also like Dreaming Neon Black and the remastered Enemies of Reality (which is totally rad) as much as Dead heart.

Crabby did you go to the friday or saturday show. (or both ??)

I was at the Friday night show as I went down to Canberra the next day for the last ever MFTB. A mate took some pics for the site I mentioned above, check it out if you get a chance.

"This Godless Endeavor" was my album of the year for 2005, and is their second best work in my humble little opinion. I also rate "Dreaming Neon Black" highly, but "Dead Heart" has pretty much always been my favourite and is their most consistently excellent release, which is no small statement given how incredible TGE is anyway.

[Pete Cash]

Did they play This Godless Endeavor as an encore at the friday show, that was fucking amazing... really amazing.

Yeah I look at pyromusic quite often actually... mostly to check out upcoming gigs.

[Bad Obsession]

This Godless Endeavor is by far one of the best metal albums in recent years.

[Crabby]

I've got some interview time with The Haunted. If you've got a (serious) question you'd like answered, post it here. Enjoy!

Glad to hear you dig the site Pete. Anything there under the name of Spiritech is written by yours truly. I also do some stuff for www.blastwave.co.uk as well.

[N.E.R.F.]

oi i'm seeing maiden with trivium supporting in less than a month, what will tey play? i've heard ONE trivium song - the crusade

[aBBy]

They will most likely play songs from The Crusade album which is a pretty good listen. I suggest you get a copy N.E.R.F. However I did like Ascendancy slightly more. The rifts and the screams were awesome and I missed some of that sound on The Crusade but it is still a great album.

They're coming to Oz in Jan so I cant wait to see them :D

[Crabby]

I caught Trivium when I was in the US and wasn't overly impressed, but I will give the band another chance at BDO nonetheless.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

BDO is a piece of shite.

[Bad Obsession]

Back in 03/04 Trivium were great. Now they're just boring Metallica wannabes. I was really hyped about them supporting Maiden before the new album was released, NERF, but now I couldn't really care less.

I just want Maiden to hit stage as quickly as possible. 5 days! :hyper:

[Tempest]

Dragonforce were fun. It makes me chuckle with how much they get away being cunts to the crowd

I was most amused when the admitted all of their songs sound the same :D

ALSO, the keyboard solo RAWKED, as did the wind machine for their hair :lol: