Metal Discussion Thread

[Ms. Morningstar]

Nice list, Pete Cash, I like pretty much every band you listed.

Nemisis mentioned Battlelore! Awesome band. Nemisis, you should hear Korpiklaani, Thyrfing, Falkenbach & Turisas if you already havan't.

[Pete Cash]

I should have put Orphaned Land just about at the top of my list... fucking amazing group, new album out soon as well.

[Ringo]

Aye, I fucking love Orphaned Land. I was obsessed with them for a number of weeks.. it was all I listened to.

[Tempest]

I prefer Shadow Gallery

(Who I discovered, you know)

I love Threshold, aslo :yes:

Psssst, edit in Queensryche you jerk

[Pete Cash]

Psst go eat a plate of death

[Eggbert Spam]

Mercyful Fate. Can't beat King Diamond.

[Ringo]

BG ALBUM UPDATE:

Love Otherland.

Thoughts?

[Tempest]

I've not really got into Otherland. I don't know why really. It's decent enough, it just doesn't do it for me.

This Will Never End and Another Stranger me, however :heart:

[Ringo]

..

Aye, my two favourite tracks apart from FLYYYYYYYY. :yes:

I wasn't a fan of Otherland upon first listen either, but I've been listening to it loads today, and I'm really liking it.

[Tempest]

I've really got into The Edge, too. I remember Hansi saying one of the tracks was a dark version of Fly and I could've sworn he said it was The New Order, but I think The Edge sounds more like what i'd expect from it.

Can't wait to hear Fly live :hyper:

[Ringo]

..

It's one of the bonus tracks that's the dark version of Fly. Wasn't on the leak. I think it's called 'Dead Sound Misery', or something like that.

I know. Literally can't wait. I've been waiting to see BG live for yeaarss.

[Alex E]

After September 19, I'll have seen:
Stratovarius x 2
Angra
Conception
Therion
Orphaned Land x 2
Pink Cream 69
Symphorce
Manticora
Circus Maximus x 2
Stride x 2
Leatherwolf
Savatage
Edguy
Kamelot
Pain of Salvation
Tad Morose
Brainstorm
Wuthering Heights
Dreamscape x2
Adagio
Into Eternity x 4
Nightwish x 4
Rage
Symphony X x 2
Evergrey x 3
Circle II Circle x 2
Vanden Plas
Secret Sphere
Mercenary x2
Pagan's Mind
Redemption
Miles Beyond
Cellador
Gamma Ray
Blind Guardian
Iced Earth
Children of Bodom x 2
Apocalyptica
Slayer
Lamb of God
Opeth x 2
Arch Enemy x 2
Thine Eyes Bleed
Mastodon
Savage Circus
Freak Kitchen
Pyramaze
Epica
Jorn
Thunderstone
Vision Divine
Theocracy
Plus a bunch of crappy opening bands. I rule :cool:

edit: and In Flames

[Ringo]

..

Mastodon (x3) :cool:

Wooooooooo.

[Pete Cash]

BG UPDATE

They rule

[darkhorse]

The new Slayer ("Christ Illusion") has leaked. It's pretty good.

[Faceless]

Breaking fucking news: Metallica has stopped being jackasses and have allowed their addition to iTunes.

They haven't been good since 1990, but still. IMMENSE~!

[SerialHunter]

Metallica trying to "be cool" again is pathetic, but what the hell...
Today i bought the new Revolver magazine (with them and Avenged Sevenfold on the cover) and im looking forward to watch them on the upcoming season of The Simpsons.

[Crabby]

I've downloaded the new Slayer, haven't listened yet though.

I can't wait for the new Mastodon eithe,r one of my favourites and a killer live band as well.

[blackening]

Trivium is another band I'm pretty high on. There old album Ember to Inferno is pretty good but I love there current album Ascendancy more mainly due to the awesome guitar solo's and riffs, and it has that edgy sound which I like.

Can't wait for there new album!

i haven't heard anything from Ember to Inferno, but i really enjoy Ascendancy a lot.

i'm really looking forward to the new album as well. they said there is going to be a lot less screaming and they be singing more like Metallica and other thrash metal bands.

plus, Matt Heafy the lead singer is only 20 and was one of the captains for the RoadRunner Records: The All-Star Sessions.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I AM NOT A HOMOSEXUAL!!!

[aBBy]

i haven't heard anything from Ember to Inferno, but i really enjoy Ascendancy a lot.

i'm really looking forward to the new album as well. they said there is going to be a lot less screaming and they be singing more like Metallica and other thrash metal bands.

plus, Matt Heafy the lead singer is only 20 and was one of the captains for the RoadRunner Records: The All-Star Sessions.

Yeh Matt Heafy is fukn talented. I love that guy. The song in 'In The Fire' from the RoadRunnder album is brilliant and he does guitar along with his other Trivium band mate on it.

If the new album will sound more like Metallica then I know I'll definetly like it :)

[blackening]

he actually sings on the song 'The End', King Diamond sings 'In the Fire'. both songs are pretty awesome.

what's that about Aussie_Outlaw?

[Pete Cash]

i haven't heard anything from Ember to Inferno, but i really enjoy Ascendancy a lot.

i'm really looking forward to the new album as well. they said there is going to be a lot less screaming and they be singing more like Metallica and other thrash metal bands.

plus, Matt Heafy the lead singer is only 20 and was one of the captains for the RoadRunner Records: The All-Star Sessions.

Most thrash bands vocalists do scream. :wtf:

As much as I really hate his vocal style Tobias Sammet formed Edguy when he was 14 and the groups first full length was released when he was 17 (Savage Poetry)

He is only 29 now and Edguy have a few full lengths out (most are pretty bland)

Andre Olbrich was only 21 when Blind Guardian released Battalions of Fear (he was 18 when the group founded) and he wrote the entire album (song wise) and every album since (never wrote a bad album either... he should be considered a legend of metal for sure)

Most metal guys start up around 20ish.

[Pete Cash]

Also an addition to my recommendation list... even though its not really "metal" exactly (he is a metal vocalist though) Russell Allens solo album "Russell Allen's atomic soul" is really really good...

I think that someone just getting into the truer metal (I hate that term too, but I mean non-mainstream) would do well to give that album a spin.

[Crabby]

Anyone got any thoughts on the new Agalloch album? I was sent a promo copy of it recently and I'm becoming a fan.

[Pete Cash]

By coincidence I was thinking about getting some Agalloch tonight... but I have other things to get first.

So no I havent heard it and could only really add a sorta nothing story :lol: sorry mate :p

[Ringo]

I haven't heard it yet. Will do as soon as possible.

Maybe even now.

[blackening]

Most thrash bands vocalists do scream. :wtf:

As much as I really hate his vocal style Tobias Sammet formed Edguy when he was 14 and the groups first full length was released when he was 17 (Savage Poetry)

He is only 29 now and Edguy have a few full lengths out (most are pretty bland)

Andre Olbrich was only 21 when Blind Guardian released Battalions of Fear (he was 18 when the group founded) and he wrote the entire album (song wise) and every album since (never wrote a bad album either... he should be considered a legend of metal for sure)

Most metal guys start up around 20ish.

i just thought being picked as one of the 4 captians for the RoadRunner United project when you're only 20 was a nice accomplishment.

and some of the members of Children of Bodom were 18 or 19 when they released Something Wild weren't they?

[Tempest]

For anyone who cares, i've pasted across a few interesting bits from the new Tate interview over at Queensryche.com

Early stuff was about the tour, the well known postponement of Mindcrime II back in the 90s until now and that obviously there'll never be a third.



ML: Would you be willing to start a new series or new concept for an album?

GT: “Funny you should mention that – that’s what we’re working on now. We’ve begun work on the next Queensryche record and it is a story... pretty intense and in-depth story and I can’t really discuss too much of it. It doesn’t have anything to do with Mindcrime, of course, but it’s proving to be very satisfying working on it. Everybody in the band is very keen and excited on developing and working within the conceptual realm right now.”

ML: Other than the tour – what’s next?

GT: “I’m so busy I can hardly pay attention. Today, is my last day of shooting film for the show and then we got into the editing phase and then we start rehearsals on August 1st. It’s a very involved rehearsal with the actors and getting the set together. At the same time, I’ve got a solo record that’s half-way finished and I’ve got the new Queensryche record that we’ve begun and I’m doing a side-project with a whole different group of individuals who’ve come together to write a record. So, I’ve got three musical projects in the works and in October we’re filming the Operation:Mindcrime I & II show for a special DVD. That’s another whole thing that’ll be intense, so somewhere around Christmas I’m going to disappear for a month. I’ll take my family to some place warm and lay on a beach.”

ML: Go to Fiji or Tahiti... Now, you’re first solo album was a grand departure from Queensryche. Very personal, very introspective... what’s the second one going to be like?

GT: “Describing it – is always so darn hard. Musically, it’s quite a departure from the first solo record. Less atmospheric and mid-tempo, but very intense and heavy. Lyrically, it’s still of a personal nature, but it follows a bit of a theme throughout. It’s similar in that I’m using a lot of different musicians and writers to collaborate with, but musically it’s very different.”

ML: Let me ask you about ‘heavy’. Over the last few albums, Queensryche sound has been a lot less ‘heavy’ or heavy metal as some fans or writers would like – Mindcrime II seems to capture it again. Do you want Queensryche to continue in the direction of ‘heavy’ or do you want to go back to more experimental?

GT: “We always had a hard time defining what heavy is. I’ve done an impromptu scientific research project into finding out what ‘heavy’ is and what I found out is that everyone has a different definition of what it is. So, it’s difficult to grasp what heavy is and then also try to please everyone. So, I gave that up.”

ML: On Mindcrime II you’ve cranked the guitars and bass real loud – so that’s good!

GT: “The dramatic change on Mindcrime II – other that trying to capture a similar musical soundscape – is that we went back to A 440 tuning (nobody outside of music will understand this), but it’s a way of tuning the guitars so that they ring differently and over that last few records we’ve done these more alternative tunings – Drop D and half-step tunings and strange things like that – that make the music sound very different. But for Mindcrime we went back to A 440 like the original (Mindcrime).”

ML: It’s not just the guitars – Scott’s drums sound like the first Operation:Mindcrime over the last few albums he was doing different beats and whatnot...

GT: “Over the last few albums, Scott was experimenting with loops and different stuff like that and on this record he went back to ‘standard’ drumming.”

ML: For the next album, do you want to stay in that mode or go back to experimenting?

GT: “I’ve been advocating A 440 for a few years now because I sing better in A 440. The notes and the chords sound correct to me... they sound right! A lot of people turn to different tunings because they can’t sing in A 440 – so they drop it down so they have more range, but for me that’s not an issue. For us, it was our guitarist, Michael Wilton, specifically that really wanted to experiment with all these different tunings because from a guitar standpoint it’s kinda cool. Makes your guitar sound different and after years and years of making records, you’re always looking to do something different. You got to keep it interesting for yourself. But I finally convinced him on going with A 440 and he came to me the other day and said ‘ you know I’m really big into this A 440 thing. I don’t know if it’s because it sounds better or I’m liking it because it’s different to what I had been doing’. So, for right now – we’re in love with A 440 tuning and what we’ve written is in A 440. So, it’ll be similar to Mindcrime II.”

So the next album is going to be another concept? Vague, but here's hoping it could be dark. From what I can make of the guitar tuning part, it comes off as if he's saying the general feel will be rather Mindcrime-esque again, which obviously is a good thing
Plus, Tate side projects with pretty guests!

Good news on a probably complete LIVEcrime too :yes:

Excuse my giddiness :$

[Alex E]

I think I've said it before, but everyone should listen to "Starchild" by Wintersun. The guy from Ensiferum made it on his own, and it's great folk-influenced death stuff. On a sidenote, the new Arch Enemy dvd is great, but I still haven't seen the 4 dvd Therion yet.

[Pete Cash]

I would have bought it if it didnt't cost a trillion dollars

[Crabby]

Interesting interview with Geoff Tate there, they still deliver a great live show as well.

[Alex E]

I would have bought it if it didnt't cost a trillion dollars

For the benefit of you, who I assume still haven't heard the album, and for anyone else who is interested in the subgenre, I made a zip file of folk-influenced metal. It's ~100 megs, tracklist is
Orphaned Land - ocean land
Elueveitie - your gaulish war
Elvenking - trow's kind
Korpiklaani - midsummer's night
Finntroll - trollhammeren
Manegarm - dodens strand
Wintersun - starchild
Wuthering Heights - land of olden glory
Mago de Oz - la voz perdida
Ensiferum - iron
Equilibrium - unter der eiche
All great quality... If this goes over well, I can do something similar again.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3RLY679C

[Cactus Lem]

I downloaded the new Slayer album a coupla days ago, and after two listens, I can honestly say I think it's their best album since Seasons. It's typically Slayer, but I found with Divine Intervention, Diabolis and God Hates, that the albums where fille with far to many filler tracks. Christ Illusion doesn't overly seem like that, and I've found myself feeling that each track has some worth and meaning to the album.

What are peoples thoughts on Strapping Young Lad? I saw that at Download and thought they where insanely awesome musicians, as well as having a great sense of humour, so I juts downloaded thir latest album, The New Black, and I gotta say I'm loving it. The album is just insane in it's time changes, and drastic musical changes, but everything fits together all so well. Heavy, strange, diverse and creative, great stuff.

I also saw Testament last Monday in London, brilliant show from the Metal vets. Their live sound was so fresher than I thought it would be. Just an awesome Thrash show, and the band where totally on form.

[Ringo]

I like SYL, although I do prefer DTB and Devin solo, and I find myself listening to them far more often. I have to say I've only heard The Wrong Side from The New Black so far, and I should really get around to hearing the rest of the album.

I haven't heard new Slayer yet.

[Cactus Lem]

I like SYL, although I do prefer DTB and Devin solo, and I find myself listening to them far more often. I have to say I've only heard The Wrong Side from The New Black so far, and I should really get around to hearing the rest of the album.

I haven't heard new Slayer yet.

I need to hear more of Townsends solo stuff, as I've always read awesome things about it.

There are loadsa links on Torrentspy for the new Slayer album, just get over there and download it if you want to hear it.

[SerialHunter]

What are peoples thoughts on Strapping Young Lad? I saw that at Download and thought they where insanely awesome musicians, as well as having a great sense of humour, so I juts downloaded thir latest album, The New Black, and I gotta say I'm loving it. The album is just insane in it's time changes, and drastic musical changes, but everything fits together all so well. Heavy, strange, diverse and creative, great stuff.

Awesome music...
Love Alien, love City
Devin (Gollum) Townsend rules!

[Pete Cash]

For the benefit of you, who I assume still haven't heard the album, and for anyone else who is interested in the subgenre, I made a zip file of folk-influenced metal. It's ~100 megs, tracklist is
Orphaned Land - ocean land
Elueveitie - your gaulish war
Elvenking - trow's kind
Korpiklaani - midsummer's night
Finntroll - trollhammeren
Manegarm - dodens strand
Wintersun - starchild
Wuthering Heights - land of olden glory
Mago de Oz - la voz perdida
Ensiferum - iron
Equilibrium - unter der eiche
All great quality... If this goes over well, I can do something similar again.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3RLY679C

:heart: Good man

This sub genre I am really interested in... I really, really love orphaned land.

[Alex E]

:heart: Good man

This sub genre I am really interested in... I really, really love orphaned land.

*Has a signed Orphaned Land cd on wall* :cool:
Anyone else listen to the stuff? I believe all those bands in there are fucking awesome.

[Pete Cash]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQUL6AGFk-4

[Alex E]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNLDLyeepVs&search=trivium%20interpretation

Check that. Hilarious, it is.

[Myron Hardy]

I finally completely listened to SOAD's self titled album and I must say it's now my favorite album of all of theirs.

[Myron Hardy]

Also, Sugar is one of the best songs I have ever heard.




My girl, you know,
she lashes out every sometimes,
And I just fucking kick her,
and then ooh baby, she's O.K.

Awesome.

[aBBy]

Just brought In Flames new album Come Clarity since I heard some great reviews from you guys and its really awesome!

I especially like Take This Life, Come Clarity, Dead End, Vacuum, Reflect The Storm and Crawl Through Knives.

I know I wont be getting sick of listening to this album for a while yet. :D

[Pete Cash]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNLDLyeepVs&search=trivium%20interpretation

Check that. Hilarious, it is.

"It's our coats, that make these wands out of Opeth!"

I will make this comment about Trivium because it annoys me when people ALWAYS bring it up.

Being a skilled guitarist does not mean your solos are just wanky ripoffs that are difficult to play. That makes you a guitarist with good technique.

Being a good guitarist is about creating something and making it fit the music. Which I do not believe Trivium do.

[aBBy]

Whatever, I still reckon they are a kick ass band and I cant wait to hear there new shit :)

[Pete Cash]

Most metal is just designed to be ass kicking.

So if it is what makes you bang your head than listen to it non stop, but I am just countering any OMG what a guitarist argument before it happens. I happen to think a lot of awesome guitarists lack decent song writing abilities (John Petrucci for one)

[blackening]

has anyone listened to the new Lamb of God song 'Redneck'? they've been playing it on the radio and i just heard the whole song before. i like it, it sounds cool, and the words are easier to understand.

their new album called 'Sacrament' is out on August 22nd. i'm thinking about getting it.

i'm excited about the Children of Bodom DVD coming out on October 10th.

[Nemesis]

What are peoples thoughts on Strapping Young Lad? I saw that at Download and thought they where insanely awesome musicians, as well as having a great sense of humour, so I juts downloaded thir latest album, The New Black, and I gotta say I'm loving it. The album is just insane in it's time changes, and drastic musical changes, but everything fits together all so well. Heavy, strange, diverse and creative, great stuff.

I also saw Testament last Monday in London, brilliant show from the Metal vets. Their live sound was so fresher than I thought it would be. Just an awesome Thrash show, and the band where totally on form.

I think Strapping Young Lad is hit-or-miss, with more on the former than the latter. They're usually pretty great, and they put on a pretty good live show.

My sister got to see Testament in Arizona (lucky biotch), and said they put on a good show. Even though Chuck Billy is a big fatass now. He's one of my favorite vocalists, since he seems to have a thousand different voices. But yeah, Testament has always been one of those bands I've really respected, changing their sound with the times and sounding awesome all the same.

I'm really, REALLY liking Naglfar right now. Sort of like Dimmu Borgir, but they don't get shit on as much, since they're unheard of in comparison (same with Ninnghizhidda, but Naglfar is still better). I dunno, I just really like symphonic black metal. Or faggoth. Whichever you wish to call it.

[aBBy]

Naglfar - And The World Shall Be Your Grave is a top song. One of my favourites of theres. :)

[blackening]

i got wireless internet on my lap top and i'm looking forward to getting into more metal bands. where do you guys download your music from?

[darkhorse]

kerrazy torrents

[Pete Cash]

isohunt

here
http://xpeh.harddays.net/index.php?lt=all

[Alex E]

Please please please, can someone find a torrent of Into Eternity's latest album, Scattering of Ashes? I can only find it on demonoid, and their registration is closed. Please!

[Pete Cash]

http://www.kerrazy-torrents.net/index.php?showtopic=71633&hl=Into+Eternity

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I have an account at demonoid. :)

[Pete Cash]

Please please please, can someone find a torrent of Into Eternity's latest album, Scattering of Ashes? I can only find it on demonoid, and their registration is closed. Please!

Because I went to the effort of finding it at Kerrazy I downloaded it... so if you can't join the site for whatever reason (sites are finding it fashionable to close regos because they are gaylords) I can upload it for you.

It rocks by the way... I am really enjoying it.

[blackening]

i burned my first CDs! i downloaded Colony, Clayman, and Whoracle from In Flames. from the few songs i've listened to so far, all three sound good.

i may burn Lunar Strain, Subterranean, Reroute to Remain, and Soundtrack to Your Escape just to have them all.

[WizoOzz]

i burned my first CDs! i downloaded Colony, Clayman, and Whoracle from In Flames. from the few songs i've listened to so far, all three sound good.

i may burn Lunar Strain, Subterranean, Reroute to Remain, and Soundtrack to Your Escape just to have them all.

Lunar Strain/Subeterranean are good, different vocalist, but good nonetheless. Check out The Jester Race which is godliness.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Even if Colony is better ;)

[blackening]

i have Jester Race, and i've been listening to Whoracle, Colony, and Clayman and they kick ass. love the guitar solos. i'm going to have 45 minute drives to school and back so i'll be listening to a lot of music.

listening to Whoracle right now....... :yes:

[Pete Cash]

Yeah I have the same length drive... so music is pretty handy

[blackening]

i downloaded Lamb of God's new album 'Sacrament'. i don't know how you guys feel about them, but it's pretty good after my first listen.

[Pete Cash]

I got half way through and turned it off because I had things to be done... I will have a proper listen later... but it sounded a little bit chugga chug chug

[Alex E]

Retail BG is out, including dark Fly.

[Tempest]

It's beaaaauuuutifuuuul

I am seeing them in a month :hyper:

[Pete Cash]

I'm buying Nevermore tickets on thursday... of course the concert isnt til november

[Cactus Lem]

Loving the new Lamb of God album. Just typically agressive, but with an added at times more epic structure.

[BrokenToe]

Anyone here like Trivium?

I heard their song 'Dying In Your Arms' the other day for the first time and it's immense! They're pretty hardcore.

[Cactus Lem]

You having a laugh or something? I quite like some Trivium, but Dying in Your Arms is by far their worst song, and certainly isn't Hardcore.

[Ringo]

OH MY GOD BLIND GUARDIAN NOT LONG NOW BLIND GUARDIAN LIVE

:hyper:

Also, A Twist In The Myth is brilliant.

[blackening]

You having a laugh or something? I quite like some Trivium, but Dying in Your Arms is by far their worst song, and certainly isn't Hardcore.

yeah, it's catchy and i like it, but not really hardcore.

BrokenToe, me and aBBy85 are big fans of Trivium.


Loving the new Lamb of God album. Just typically agressive, but with an added at times more epic structure.

agreed, Redneck and Blacken the Cursed Sun are the best songs i think so far.

haven't decided if it's better than Ashes of the Wake yet.

damn, i already said it but i'm loving the 3 In Flames albums i burned. i'd have to say they are my favorite band.

[Cactus Lem]

I think it's Lamb of God's best album yet, although I haven't heard Burn the Priest, and I've heard good things.

On Trivium, I like them as well, seen them live plenty of times, and they seem like a band who live up to the hype when it's most needed, as their two best performances so far have been at Donnington. Dying in Your Arms is shit though, I seriously can't see how anyone who considers themself a Metal fan can like the song. It's poorly put together, and has horrible verses.

[blackening]

what do you guys think of Rammstein?

i like them, the lyrics and the members are pretty weird, but the music and german singing sounds cool. Du Hast is one of my favorite songs.

after reading so much about it in here, i downloaded Blind Guardian's new album A Twist in the Myth. and i'd have to say i really like it. i think i could get really into it after a few more listens. what other albums should i listen to?

this also gives me something new to listen to on the way to and back from school.

i plan on going throughout this thread and find albums and bands that are talked about a lot and take a listen to see if i like them and will download them. also i might ask for some recommendations some time.

[Pete Cash]

With Blind Guardian it depends really... they have 3 stages.

Speed metal, more traditional power metal (but with an aggressive focus) and this newer progressive power metal they are playing now.

Imaginations from the other side is their best album (although some will disagree and say it is nightfall in middle earth) but some of their earlier albums are pretty rocking and so is a night at the opera.

You might find a night at the opera hard to get into because it is very layered and complex and "battalions of fear" and "follow the blind" aren't very polished...I would get probably Imaginations or nightfall.

But all their albums range from above average to fucking awesome.

If you mean other power metal albums in the style of Blind Guardian... then well I was doing this list once, but I lost all motivation

but I might continue it up

but Blind Guardian, Iced Earth, Demons and Wizards, Savage Circus, Iron Savior, Nevermore and Morgana Lefay would have all been on this list.

[aBBy]

I think it's Lamb of God's best album yet, although I haven't heard Burn the Priest, and I've heard good things.

On Trivium, I like them as well, seen them live plenty of times, and they seem like a band who live up to the hype when it's most needed, as their two best performances so far have been at Donnington. Dying in Your Arms is shit though, I seriously can't see how anyone who considers themself a Metal fan can like the song. It's poorly put together, and has horrible verses.

I find 'Dying In Your Arms' a catchy song but more radio friendly. Not very metal at all but I dont mind listening to it. Songs like 'Like Light To The Flies' and 'A Gunshot To The Head Of Trepidation' are there more better songs and if you go back to there 'Ember To Inferno' album, thats where they have some of there best stuff.

Not many people may agree but I also really like 'Departure' Its actually one of my favourite songs of theres. The lyrics and the sound is just awesome and I never tire from listening to it.

I'll just quickly add that I love there version of 'Master Of Puppets'. Nice indeed :)

And yes, I'll admit, I'm a BIG Trivium fan. Still waiting with anticipation for there new album!

[Alex E]

what do you guys think of Rammstein?
after reading so much about it in here, i downloaded Blind Guardian's new album A Twist in the Myth. and i'd have to say i really like it. i think i could get really into it after a few more listens. what other albums should i listen to?


Well, what are you looking for? As Pete Cash said, BG had different stages, like most good metal bands have had. You looking for catchy clean vocal stuff, epic prog stuff, what? I posted a bunch of songs for folk metal a few pages back, but it probably expired. Maybe I'll do that again soon for power metal.

[SerialHunter]

what do you guys think of Rammstein?

i like them, the lyrics and the members are pretty weird, but the music and german singing sounds cool. Du Hast is one of my favorite songs.

after reading so much about it in here, i downloaded Blind Guardian's new album A Twist in the Myth. and i'd have to say i really like it. i think i could get really into it after a few more listens. what other albums should i listen to?

this also gives me something new to listen to on the way to and back from school.

i plan on going throughout this thread and find albums and bands that are talked about a lot and take a listen to see if i like them and will download them. also i might ask for some recommendations some time.
They're a dam Laibach rip-off, they have some good videos though ("Sonne", "Mein Teil" and "Amerika").
The first album was a good listen.

[aBBy]

Just found out that Triviums new album is coming out on October 10 2006 and it will be called 'The Crusade'

I am so happy about this and can't wait to get my hands on it! :D

[blackening]

With Blind Guardian it depends really... they have 3 stages.

Speed metal, more traditional power metal (but with an aggressive focus) and this newer progressive power metal they are playing now.

Imaginations from the other side is their best album (although some will disagree and say it is nightfall in middle earth) but some of their earlier albums are pretty rocking and so is a night at the opera.

You might find a night at the opera hard to get into because it is very layered and complex and "battalions of fear" and "follow the blind" aren't very polished...I would get probably Imaginations or nightfall.

But all their albums range from above average to fucking awesome.

If you mean other power metal albums in the style of Blind Guardian... then well I was doing this list once, but I lost all motivation

but I might continue it up

but Blind Guardian, Iced Earth, Demons and Wizards, Savage Circus, Iron Savior, Nevermore and Morgana Lefay would have all been on this list.

well, i really don't know much about the band so i guess i was just asking for their best albums in general. i do like the catchy and clean vocals alot.

[Cactus Lem]

Just found out that Triviums new album is coming out on October 10 2006 and it will be called 'The Crusade'

I am so happy about this and can't wait to get my hands on it! :D

The songs I've heard have all been good, but very different from one another.

[blackening]

wow... after more listens, A Twist in the Myth is fucking brilliant. i love the guitar solos and the choruses. :yes:

i downloaded Imaginations From the Other Side as well. it's quite a bit heavier and i like it a lot too.

[aBBy]

Just a quick question, what are your take on Bullet For My Valentine? Been listening to them abit. They're okay but I guess they are more soft and more radio friendly than alot of metal acts.

They have a pretty good sound though which I like.

[Adamy]

Here is a question for all y'all:

This guy I know recorded some stuff for a band called Indian and told me to check it out. I know absolutely nothing about doom metal but I'm kinda digging it. If you want to hear them, hit up www.indiandoom.com or myspace.com/indiandoom

Anyway, the question is, is this band indicitave of what doom metal sounds like? I never bothered to learn anything about the genre because I just assumed I wouldn't like it. Your thoughts on the issue would be appreciated.

[Pete Cash]

Yeah that is pretty much Doom metal.

There are different styles within doom-metal though. Groups like Candlemass (probably THE doom group, besides say Black Sabbath who are more of a prototypal doom metal group anyway) have a more epic feel...some doom metal is just totally slowed down (Funeral doom).. this is probably something like Death/doom because of the vocals.

Although I am not Dean Doom expert or anything, I don't mind the genre when it is done well though.

Edit

I like this group though, they do it well.

EDIT the second

Metal Archives (http://www.metal-archives.com/) tells me it is sludge/doom which shows what I know... groups like Crowbar (who I like) and Eyehategod are in that sub-genre

[Cactus Lem]

I've heard about four tracks from the new Trivium alum, and three of them are excellent. Blatant Hetfield influence on Heafy's voice, and some of the riffs stink of Post Bay Area, but still it's good to see a band who could hgave easily gone the other way, getting more metal, instead of going for the commercial approach.

[blackening]

:yes:

totally, it's always awesome when a metal bands stays heavy or gets heavier, instead of being commercial and radio friendly.

[Pete Cash]

I don't mind if a metal group gets lighter so long as it isn't to sell records (even then I can't blame them... I am just unlikely to buy their album)

[King101]

It's nice to see some people being positive about Trivium's direction - so many people hav been saying stuff like "OMG they don't scream anymore, they're not metal".

I guess its a classic case of people turning on a band because they got popular but people all over the internet are jumping at the chance to predict their doom following this album.

[blackening]

i listened to 3 new Trivium songs from their MySpace page - Detonation, Anthem, and Entrance Of The Conflagration.

i thought they were all pretty good. i liked the guitar solos and probably like Heafy's singing better than his screaming.

[Cactus Lem]

It's nice to see some people being positive about Trivium's direction - so many people hav been saying stuff like "OMG they don't scream anymore, they're not metal".

I guess its a classic case of people turning on a band because they got popular but people all over the internet are jumping at the chance to predict their doom following this album.

Hahaha, can you link me to the people who are saying this, because that is seriously fucking pathetic, and I seriously doubt they have any idea about Metal if they think 'screaming' is a staple for all metal bands.

I think the better way to put it would be that they seem like they want to move away from a Metalcore approach and go for a more 80's throwback style.

Heafy's vocals on Entrance Of The Conflagration are very, very good, but man is he desperate to be James Hetfield.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I just discovered neither Tempest or Pete have seen Airheads.


I should shoot you right now.

It is greatness, I'm sure Crabby or whoever else is around agrees with me.

[N.E.R.F.]

Airheads is incredibly amazing.

[Cactus Lem]

I've seen it, possibly the least I've ever enjoyed Steve Buscemi.


Not bad, but certainly nothing special.

[Crabby]

Airheads is great, no doubts there.

Ministry cancelled their Australian, Japanese and South American tours- a huge bah to that. Maybe Al is back on the smack again.

[Tempest]

IT'S NO SPINAL TAP :p

I quite enjoyed it, though :yes:

[Pete Cash]

Yeah, I worked out I had seen it

But Spinal Tap is still the ultimate

[SerialHunter]

http://rushlimbaughtomy.blogspot.com/smell-the-glove_01.jpg
best cover ever

[blackening]

i just saw a video of Blind Guardian playing Bard's Song live. the crowd sang the whole fucking song. the leader singer only sang a few parts and let the fans sing the rest. pretty fucking awesome.

[Tempest]

Probably off the DVD 'Imaginations Through The Looking Glass ' - It's always really special (I'm going to get to in 17 DAYS BABAY).
They put a performance of it on The Forgotten Tales and it still makes the hairs on my arms stand up :yes:

The leads name is Hansi Kursch, by the way :)

[Pete Cash]

Hansi "the bestest" Kursch

[Tempest]

After Russell Allen, of course

[Pete Cash]

Russell Allen is better at being fat am i rite

[Tempest]

That is inaccurate and frankly rather offensive to fat people, you bloody fatto. So no, you are not right

[Pete Cash]

You make me cry....

I hope Hansi spits in your eye at the concert

[Tempest]

:sexuallysuggestivesmilie:

[Alex E]

Allen, eh? I haven't really enjoyed since SX live. Tight band, yet there's just something missing. Plus, they've done the Odyssey as an encore when I've seen them, and I'm usually burnt out by that point.

Savage Circus in under a week.

[Pete Cash]

No Thomen though

Unless he got better really fast, because he only had his breakdown really recently... but it isn't like I am in the loop on that group.

[Alex E]

No Thomen though

Unless he got better really fast, because he only had his breakdown really recently... but it isn't like I am in the loop on that group.

True...the lineup'll be 3/4 Iron Savior. But I'm just looking forward to singing along to it, no matter who be doing drumming yo.

[Pete Cash]

They should break out GORGAR... that is a tune

[PepperCarrot]

I reccomend Magog. http://www.evangeli.se/ Really great black metal althought they have changed name to the much less cool Evangeli.

MAGOG is a way better name.

[Tempest]

http://www.play.com/Music/CD/GENCS/16/40/-/1138437/Paradise_Lost/Product.html?searchtype=genre

:hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

REALLY wasn't expecting it this year

Also, for you cheesy rascals out there, the new Dream Evil album has been leaked :hyper:

[PepperCarrot]

http://www.play.com/Music/CD/GENCS/16/40/-/1138437/Paradise_Lost/Product.html?searchtype=genre

:hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

REALLY wasn't expecting it this year

Also, for you cheesy rascals out there, the new Dream Evil album has been leaked :hyper:

Yeah it's way better then their previous albums.

[Pete Cash]

EDIT- TO tempest... PepperCarrot getting in the way :(

Dream Evil is gayer than you.... I might check it out when the Internet (and MSN) stops being a massive faggot.

That Symphony X cover fucking sucks and looks like it was made by a drooling idiot on some shareware 3d program.

I hope the music rocks though.

[Tempest]

Which explains why you and Josh introduced me to them then ;)

[Pete Cash]

Can't defend the cover can you... CAN YOU ???

[Aussie_Outlaw]

ooo Dream Evil.

[Tempest]

Ahaha I don't want to. If I remember correctly, I showed it to you with the line 'How gay is this'

[Pete Cash]

I could draw a better album cover...

It's going to suck anyways, SWEEP PICK LOL... one day I will learn how to troll like an expert.

[Alex E]

Ahahahaha....track 1.
"Fire! Battle! In metal!"
Been a good few months for releases....Guardian, Into Eternity, SX, Dream Evil, Maiden, and upcoming Sinergy, Wintersun, CoB DVD, etc.

I REALLY want a high budget Ensiferum album.

[Tempest]

:lol: It is a gloriously camp name for a track, but I am really liking it

EDIT: My Number One really could've been done by the Backstreet Boys, however...

[Aussie_Outlaw]

No surprise there.

Still haven't topped Children Of The Night off Evilized though.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

While we're running around in a campy powermetal bit I figure I may as well ask....

What is the cheesiest/best metal video?


I propose HammerFall - Hearts On Fire!

[Tempest]

Book Of Heavy Metal :p

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Oh and Tempest....


KNIGHTS > VIKINGS!

even if they are cute little pussy cats.

[Tempest]

Now that's just going too far :mad:

[Ms. Morningstar]

Rhapsody Videos:

Holy Thunderforce: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqm-ystzPGY
Unholy Warcry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAcyfL2q-Bg
Power of the Dragonflame: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZG-oCZNlbI

Unholy Warcry isn't as cheap, so not as cheesy, but still.

[Tempest]

I've just been told by a homosexual that My Number One on the Dream Evil album is the Eurovision 2005 winning song for Greece.

It's true n' all

[Pete Cash]

These three Blind Guardian clips are more nerdy (and therefore cute and awesome)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y_oOn16SxA (Bright Eyes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWKgItL1xvo (Mirror Mirror)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQUL6AGFk-4 [/url] (ANOTHER STRANGER MEEEEEEEEEEEE)

I love Power Metal :D

[Ringo]

AHHHHHHHHHH 14 DAYS RIDICULOUS

[Ringo]

http://www.play.com/Music/CD/GENCS/16/40/-/1138437/Paradise_Lost/Product.html?searchtype=genre

:hyper: :hyper: :hyper:

REALLY wasn't expecting it this year


OH MY GOD AMAZING :panic: :panic: :panic:

[blackening]

Probably off the DVD 'Imaginations Through The Looking Glass ' - It's always really special (I'm going to get to in 17 DAYS BABAY).

They put a performance of it on The Forgotten Tales and it still makes the hairs on my arms stand up :yes:


The leads name is Hansi Kursch, by the way :)

awesome, i'm going to be getting that DVD. i think i'm gonna get the In Flames ...Used and Abuse DVD as well. i'm getting the Children of Bodom DVD when it comes out for sure.

i like Kursch's voice a lot. he can scream and can sure as hell sing.

i'm loving Blind Guardian right now - fantastic music. Mordred's Song kicks fucking ass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nExEbddRcTI&mode=related&search=

i thought it was kind of funny watching Kursch jump/skip around on stage. :dunno:

anyone hear anything from the new Iron Maiden CD?

[darkhorse]

The new Trivium has leaked. While it's not as good as Ascendancy, it is an enjoyable listen.

[cactusmaac]

Got Iron Maiden's latest.

It's pretty good although Dance Of Death was stronger all round.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I was of the opinion Dance Of Death is really weak and Brave New World is the best is their new Bruce era. If I can call that an era.

[Pete Cash]

I liked Dance of Death.... to a point anyway, it didn't really last long on rotation, but I quite liked it.

[Cactus Lem]

I got the new Maiden album yesterday. It's muscially a really good album, but it's so simmilar to Dance of Death and Brave New World, that it gets kind of boring quite easily.

[cactusmaac]

I got into Maiden really late, only in 2004 despite being a hard rock\metal fan - and big mark for Megadeth - for years.

I'd rank my favourites as:

1. Powerslave
2. Dance Of Death
3. Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son
4. Chemical Wedding (solo Bruce album but I'll stick it here anyway)
5. Number Of The Beast
6. A Matter Of Life And Death
7. Rock In Rio
8. Brave New World
9. Somewhere In Time
10. Piece Of Mind

with the rest ranked more or less equally.

[SerialHunter]

The new Trivium has leaked. While it's not as good as Ascendancy, it is an enjoyable listen.

link?

[Pete Cash]

It is on ISOhunt

http://www.isohunt.com/torrents?ihq=trivium

[blackening]

does Bind Guardian ever tour in the United States?

i downloaded the new Trivium album. i guess i really don't have an opinion right now. i think its good, but the songs sound the same. i guess i'll have to get used to Heafy singing instead of yelling. not as many guitar solos as well. i'd say it's good, but not as good as Ascendancy. i'll give it a few more listens. the song The Crusade is fun to listen to.

[Pete Cash]

they are touring America soon actually (and hopefully Australia)

http://www.myspace.com/blindguardian the tour dates are there.

[blackening]

wow... they go to Illinois, Minnesota, and Michigan, but not Wisconsin. not that'd i'd go anyway cause it'd be in Madison or Milwaukee.

[Nemesis]

I may be going to the next Wacken. :eek:

My sister is usually the one who goads me into going to concerts, and she wants to go to see Immortal reunited. This event would be a dream come true for me if plans actually follow through. I'll have to brush up on my German, though :\

[blackening]

i was listening to the interview that was included on The Twist in the Myth album i downloaded and they mentioned releasing an orchestral album in 2008.

[Tempest]

Aye, it sounds pretty fantastic. I think Pete Cash told me it might have something to do with the Nightfall In Middle Earth album, but perhaps i'm remembering the conversation wrong.

I REALLY love the idea of a Blind Guardian album in the same kind of light that Metallicas S&M was though.

[blackening]

i'm listening to it right now, and it sounds like they wrote a couple of songs while working on different albums, so they will sound similar to those albums - he mentioned a a Nighfall in Middle Earth, Twist in the Myth and Night at the Opera. the variety of songs is larger than a regular album they said.

but this interview is quite old, during the album the name a Twist in the Myth wasn't even confimed yet.

[PepperCarrot]

The Satyricon video for K.I.N.G is embarassing. The song is fine, of course I know they have been drifting away from their Black Metal roots, but still.

The video is like a mary manson video rather then norweigean black metal. It's embarassing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-kJ2VO3MGs

:blah:

[Pete Cash]

:lol:

I might try some slow motion headbanging later

[Nemesis]

I thought the video fit the song well, although the singer looked like a kid throwing a tantrum.

I listened to some of their newer stuff out of curiosity, since everyone writes it off as being pure shit, but I actually like it. It's just fun to listen to. Still not as good as Mother North, though :\

[Alex E]

Woooo, guess who's going to dinner with Kamelot and Epica on the 2nd? Pays to be best friends with concert promoters, eh? :cool:

[Tempest]

Apparently the Symphony X release date is bogus :grumpy:

I'm listening to Hammerfall a lot lately since Aussiedave was talking to me about them. I've just got my hands on the promo for the new album, which so far is pretty damn cool :yes:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I mentioned HammerFall about a week ago. When I was talking about their two recent videos. Which are great videos.

[Cactus Lem]

After one listen to Trivium's 'The Crusade', I can honestly say it's easily in my top 5 albums this year, and I can only see it rising the more I listen to it.

[blackening]

so far, i just really haven't gotten into it. i'll keep listening though.

:dunno:

[Tempest]

Same here, man. I got it and have been trying to get into it, but no. It's not going to happen.

[Bad Obsession]

After one listen to Trivium's 'The Crusade', I can honestly say it's easily in my top 5 albums this year, and I can only see it rising the more I listen to it.
It's shit.

They've never been much more than your average metalcore band, but at least Ember To Inferno and Ascendancy was good metalcore. Matt does the screaming thing pretty good, even if some of the stuff has lots of emo-ish hints in them (namely Dying In Your Arms..urgh, horrid song)

Ever since he stopped the screaming live they've gone downhill, though, and this album is the final thing that cements them as another band that has been way too influenced by the mainstream. He can't sing, the lyrics are boring and cliched, and it just sounds like they want to be Metallica way too much. Hate the album.


On a different note, I've been listening to a shitload of good stuff recently. Agalloch's new album, Ashes Against The Grain, has been out since August, and I don't think a day has gone by that I've not listened to it. They're simply one of the greatest bands ever. It's that simple. All 4 of their albums are perfection.

I've also been listening to a lot of Woods of Ypres, who I've fallen in love with also. I currently have (get ready for stupidly long titles) Against the Seasons, Cold Winter Songs From the Dead Summer Heat and Pursuit of the Sun and Allure of the Earth. The latter being my favourite thus far, although the former is the heavier. I hear they have a new album out this winter, can't wait.

OH! And I've been obsessed with Novembers Doom, who seem to be a kick ass band after listening to their album The Pale Haunt Departure.


I think it's safe to say that The End Records is the best record label out there. I love every single band signed to them. Whether they're metal, progressive or experimental.

[Nemesis]

I think it's safe to say that The End Records is the best record label out there. I love every single band signed to them. Whether they're metal, progressive or experimental.

I'll have to check some of their bands out. I buy from their online shop all the time, but never any of their own.

[Pete Cash]

They might be massive cunts but it would be hard to go past what Nuclear Blast has on its label

[Cactus Lem]

It's shit.

They've never been much more than your average metalcore band, but at least Ember To Inferno and Ascendancy was good metalcore. Matt does the screaming thing pretty good, even if some of the stuff has lots of emo-ish hints in them (namely Dying In Your Arms..urgh, horrid song)

Ever since he stopped the screaming live they've gone downhill, though, and this album is the final thing that cements them as another band that has been way too influenced by the mainstream. He can't sing, the lyrics are boring and cliched, and it just sounds like they want to be Metallica way too much. Hate the album.


Dying in Your Arms is shit, but I see no slight hint of emo on this album. Something that's really pissing me off is how loosley the term 'emo' gets thrown around, basically your saying in a way because he doesn't scream anywhere near as much on this album the vocals are 'emo'? Bullshit.

When did he stop screaming live? I've seen them live a few times, the last time being at Download this year, and the screaming was fully in tact?

I fail to see how they've been influnced by the mainstream, it seems to me like they've gone against the grain and done what they want to do rather than go to down the ultra mainstream route. While there are a couple of songs on there that seem to me where written with Radio Play intentions, the album overall doesn't come across as overly mainstream.

They could have gone the route someone like Bullet For My Valentine or 18 Visions went and changed their style completley in order to try and crack the mainstream market, but I fail to see how blatantly trying to use MOP era Hetfield style vocals is aiming at a mainstream audience.

I get what you mean about them wanting to be Metallica, but I've no problem with that. I love Metallica, and love 80's Bay Area Thrash, as well as loving the Sleazey Hair Metal that existed in the 80's, so anything that emulates that style is cool in my book.

[Bad Obsession]

Download 2005 (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-7088197756990906902&q=trivium+download)
Download 2006 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qId9NjvFDeE)

You MUST be able to hear how he's stopped all the hardcore screaming in the past year and sings nearly everything now? I really hate it.

And it just seems to be that they've stopped the screaming so they'll get much more mainstream appeal. Maybe I'm wrong and Matt wanted to do it all along, but I really doubt it.

Anyway, I'm not going to get worked up over it, like I said, they were always an average band to begin with to say the very least.


I'll have to check some of their bands out. I buy from their online shop all the time, but never any of their own.
My personal favourites on their label are Agalloch, Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, Novembers Doom, Ulver and Sculptured. :yes:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Screaming vocals are overrated and absolute shite.

[Bad Obsession]

I don't think so. In the case of Trivium it certainly made them a much better band.

It really depends on the band. With some clean vocals work best, with others screaming does. I'm assuming you don't like black/death metal if you're not big on screaming? :p

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Exactly right. Pretty much why I stick with the great artists like Robbie Williams and Britney Spears.

[Pete Cash]

I don't know if you are just trolling Dave Outlaw but very few metal genres have clean vocals. Only the gayest of power metal vocalists don't scream (although is a falsetto a scream??)

Even Hansi Kursch growled early in his career (up til a night at the opera and only stopped because his voice was going to go) and Blind Guardian are the greatest power metal group that ever did play, actually I believe the first vocals of this will never end (the first track on a twist in the myth) is a scream.

Most metal vocalists don't exactly sing like Jeff Buckley did do they :)

Outlaw probably means black metal style screams... but screaming is metal as fuck, regardless of the style

[aBBy]

I cant wait to buy The Crusade by Trivium. I dont want to download it. I'd prefer to wait and listen to the whole album but of the tracks I've heard so far, Detonation is the best. Its really good and Matts vocals remind me so much of the lead singer of Metallica. You guys are right on there.

I do miss the sound of the Ascedancy album and the screaming, but I still think this album will be great especially since I am a big Metallica fan.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I don't know if you are just trolling Dave Outlaw but very few metal genres have clean vocals. Only the gayest of power metal vocalists don't scream (although is a falsetto a scream??)

Even Hansi Kursch growled early in his career (up til a night at the opera and only stopped because his voice was going to go) and Blind Guardian are the greatest power metal group that ever did play, actually I believe the first vocals of this will never end (the first track on a twist in the myth) is a scream.

Most metal vocalists don't exactly sing like Jeff Buckley did do they :)

Outlaw probably means black metal style screams... but screaming is metal as fuck, regardless of the style


Bit of both. I don't really like screaming and I like to understand the vocals but still I don't mind a bit as long as they're still understandable.

And Blind Guardian aren't even close to being the best power metal group.

[Cactus Lem]

Download 2005 (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-7088197756990906902&q=trivium+download)
Download 2006 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qId9NjvFDeE)

You MUST be able to hear how he's stopped all the hardcore screaming in the past year and sings nearly everything now? I really hate it.

And it just seems to be that they've stopped the screaming so they'll get much more mainstream appeal. Maybe I'm wrong and Matt wanted to do it all along, but I really doubt it.

Anyway, I'm not going to get worked up over it, like I said, they were always an average band to begin with to say the very least.


I'll be honest with you I really didn't notice the difference. I was there for both of those performances, and while at the time I realised it was just Corey doing the screaming as backing vocals, and Matt was signing the vocals rather than screaming them, I'd completley forgotten until watching those two videos.

I don't buy your argument at all though when it comes to the stopping his screaming for commercial appeal. Corey still screams at times on the album, and it just seems like Heafy is going for a more traditional metal aproach, and obviously he's playing off of Hetfield's 80's style big time. Also, plenty of Metal bands have never really cracked the mainstream and have sung thier whole career's. Dave Mustaine for example. Although Megadeth have had some mainstream success, it's never really been sustained to the length of say Metallica.

I think the screaming definetly suited their style when they wanted to use it, but I see no problem with them wanting to mature as a band and sacraficing Heafy's screams.

Also, just wondering, are you one of the people who think In Flames suck now because they now use melody?

And Pete Cash makes a very good point on screaming as well by the way :yes:

[Bad Obsession]

I'm seeing them supporting Iron Maiden in December, so I guess I'll judge them fully then. I was really hyped about them being the support act when I first found out, less so now though.

[Cactus Lem]

I'm seeing them supporting Iron Maiden in December, so I guess I'll judge them fully then. I was really hyped about them being the support act when I first found out, less so now though.

I've been considering going to that for months. Seen Maiden twice, first time at Earls Court three years ago on the Dance of Death tour and at Reading last year. Without doubt one of the greatest live bands ever, seriously made every other band at Reading that weekend look average.

My only doubts about going now are the fact that Maiden play so much stuff from their new albums when they tour them, which while I think it's fair, so far I'm not a huge fan of the new album, it's good musically, but it's so simmilar to what they had going on on Dance of Death that I find it sort of beoing. If this was a Greatest Hits tour I'd pick up tickets right away, but I dunno if I want to stand through seven or eight new tracks really.

I'm sure Trivium will be ideal support, and they seem prety pumped to be supporting a band like Maiden. I'm 100% sure they'll go down much better than Funeral For A Friend did on the Dance of Death tour anyway.

[Bad Obsession]

I can't wait to see Maiden, it will be my first time. I don't think I'll care that the setlist will be mainly new stuff, as I absolutely love the new album. It's amazing that after 30 years they're still knocking out quality like that. It's certainly one of the albums of the year for me.

Granted, I will be a bit gutted if they don't play some of my favourites. Stuff like Fear Of The Dark etc. When you have a back catalogue like Maiden though you're never going to hear all your favourites live. Too much to pick from.

[Pete Cash]

Bit of both. I don't really like screaming and I like to understand the vocals but still I don't mind a bit as long as they're still understandable.

And Blind Guardian aren't even close to being the best power metal group.

I would like to know one better.

All the major power metal groups have at least one poor release. Blind Guardian don't have a single poor album over a twenty year career.

I know you prefer the cheesier power metal, but I wouldn't have a hard time arguing that there has never been a better power metal group than Blind Guardian.

The only group that in my opinion would come close would be Fates Warning but they are a little more progish

The rest either have terrible releases (Edguy, Helloween, Iced Earth, Savatage, Stratovarius, Running Wild etc), periods of their history that they try to hide (Grave Digger), not been around long enough/released enough albums (Persuader, Savage Circus, Iron Savior) or are perversion of power metal (Rhapsody of fire, nevermore) but the former also have a few shit releases under their old name of Rhapsody anyway.

That is ignoring the bland power metal groups that are bland (Dragonforce and all the groups that sound exactly the same)

Also just in case you are thinking Iron Maiden... Iron Maiden aren't power metal, they are NWOBHM. (And Blind Guardian are better anyway... once again I will add Blind Guardian have no shit full lengths)

[King101]

I can't wait to see Maiden, it will be my first time. I don't think I'll care that the setlist will be mainly new stuff, as I absolutely love the new album. It's amazing that after 30 years they're still knocking out quality like that. It's certainly one of the albums of the year for me.

Granted, I will be a bit gutted if they don't play some of my favourites. Stuff like Fear Of The Dark etc. When you have a back catalogue like Maiden though you're never going to hear all your favourites live. Too much to pick from.

Im going to the Manchester show and im not sure how many classics were going to get, last I heard Maiden were talking about playing the entire new album live. That would eat up 1:15 of a 2 hour set and the next tour is suppsoed to be part 2 of the early days tour, so they'll probably want to save some material for that. They'll definitely play Run To The Hills, Number of the Beast, Iron Maiden, Trooper and Hallowed Be Thy Name, beyond that I don't know.

Im really looking forward to listening to the new Trivium album, i've got no problam with the dropping the screaming and have really liked the tracks i've heard so far so I should like it.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Pete, you do realise I only slagged Guardian off to draw your ire :p

[Pete Cash]

Yeah, but they are so obviously the best power metal group ever that my ire was well drawn :p

[Aussie_Outlaw]

What about Helloween?

[Pete Cash]

Helloween are certainly up there... they are the group that influenced Blind Guardian the most.

But I think how bad some of their later albums were has hurt their legacy. Keeper of the Seven Keys, Pt. 1 is great however.

Pink Bubbles go ape :(

Edit

we missed a lot of good power metal groups for your poll thing... we could have added even more nerd to it ;)

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Not much point considering most won't go through past the first round.

[Pete Cash]

Yeah I know.

You can't account for taste eh :(

[Tempest]

Pink Bubbles go ape :(

HEAVY METAL HAMSTERS

Some people call Symphony X power and they are SPIFFING

[Pete Cash]

Yeah, two shitty records and *Sweep-pick*

[Tempest]

A Night At The Opera is pretentious gayness

[Pete Cash]

Even if a night at the opera was rubbish and even if it was pretentious (when it isn't pretentious for power metal... rhapsody of fire for example)

EVEN if it was gay and shit

It still has the best power metal song ever on it.

And you are still a bald cunt.

(note I like a night at the opera and would say it is Blind Guardians second worst album... and I would give it 8/10)

[Tempest]

I MUCH prefer The Seven Angels for a power epic.

You gingers and your crappo ginger beards.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Imaginations is my fav BG album.

[Ringo]

THREE.

DAYS.

TO.

GO.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Dokken's Back For The Attack is the greatest glam metal album in the history of music.


NO ARGUMENTS WILL BE ENTERED INTO UNLESS THEY'RE ABOUT SHOUT AT THE DEVIL OR HYSTERIA


Of course I'm nowhere near 3% serious. You can try but you'd be wrong ;)

[Tempest]

There is something wrong with the world when I have a spare ticket to Blind Guardian...

But yes! TODAAAAAY :hyper:

[Hero!]

Dokken's Back For The Attack is the greatest glam metal album in the history of music.


NO ARGUMENTS WILL BE ENTERED INTO UNLESS THEY'RE ABOUT SHOUT AT THE DEVIL OR HYSTERIA


Of course I'm nowhere near 3% serious. You can try but you'd be wrong ;)

Glam metal = shit. Theres no such thing as "good" glam metal. The End.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

To hold a view like that is just naive.

Also Tempest I will come with you go blind guardian even if I had to do things to earn the ticket.

[Ringo]

I will be leaving soon for GUARDIAN. I am very excited.

Looking at recent setlists, it should be IMMENSE.

[Pete Cash]

Don't leave out ANY detail when you write up what happened... I must live through you and tempest (not like that tempest... I have told you I don't swing that way) til they one day tour Australia.

I hope they rock the place down :)

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I hope Tempy faints and Hansi laughs at him.

[Pete Cash]

I hope he beats the shit out of him and then tells him he likes Pete the best

[Hero!]

To hold a view like that is just naive.

How so?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

You can't write off an entire subgenre as "shit". It may not be your taste but there are still alot of likable elements in the genre as well as the whole fun part of it which is just cool.

Alot of metalheads (especially the darker ones) shun glam due to it's childish like fun nature and colourful lyrics. There's great guitarwork through some albums as well as some simple pop type albums. Sure alot of the antics overshadow the music but that doesn't make the music any less decent.

Alot of people who merely go "glam is shit" haven't really heard much of it and what they have heard is the pop stuff like Warrant's Cherry Pie and such.

[cactusmaac]

So anybody else seeing Maiden in Manchester?

[Hero!]

You can't write off an entire subgenre as "shit". It may not be your taste but there are still alot of likable elements in the genre as well as the whole fun part of it which is just cool.

Alot of metalheads (especially the darker ones) shun glam due to it's childish like fun nature and colourful lyrics. There's great guitarwork through some albums as well as some simple pop type albums. Sure alot of the antics overshadow the music but that doesn't make the music any less decent.

Alot of people who merely go "glam is shit" haven't really heard much of it and what they have heard is the pop stuff like Warrant's Cherry Pie and such.

Well I guess Im one of those "darker" metal head because I dispise glam metal and Ive actually listened to a lot of it because my oldest sister is a huge glam metal fan, but I just cannot stand the stuff. It sounds too, for lack of a better word, "pussy" for me. I guess I just like heavier music.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Since you're kinda new to our little metal thread what are you into? Bands, genres and stuff (whatever). I think as a group we cover most of the major stuff and some off the minor and somehow we all manage to get along.

If the thread isn't going on about your favourite band then start up a new line of conversation and hope someone picks up on it.

I find whenever black/death comes up I drift off for a bit until prog/power returns. I think we're on a big progpower bent atm with Tempest/Ringo seeing Blind Guardian today.

[Hero!]

Alright well my 2 all time favorite bands are Metallica and Pantera. As for a specific genre I don't really have one. I listen to many types of metal, but I guess I mostly listen to death, doom, thrash, black, and groove metal.

[Bad Obsession]

Well I guess Im one of those "darker" metal head because I dispise glam metal and Ive actually listened to a lot of it because my oldest sister is a huge glam metal fan, but I just cannot stand the stuff. It sounds too, for lack of a better word, "pussy" for me. I guess I just like heavier music.
I agree. I like my metal really heavy (Drudkh, Emperor etc) and I just can't see the appeal of glam personally.

If I ever want a break from the heavier stuff I usually just shove on some prog-rock or experiemental, maybe even some classic rock. That just seems like a much better way to listen to 'lighter' music than glam.

But to each their own.

[Alex E]

I also want to hear an overly detailed report of BG. I can't wait to see them in November. I did something like this a while back, but just to warn people since it only stays for a limited time - I'm going to make a substantial zip file of metal that I think deserves to be listened to tonight and post the link. Probably some bands Pete and Tempest, etc have mentioned.

edit: I know there are some pretty well-versed metal fans in here...please do a me a favour and check out this song my band did, give feedback. http://alexandershaw.ca/mp3s/Alexander%20Shaw%20(feat.%20Alex%20Edye%20&%20Jennifer%20Shaw)%20-%20The%20Pearls%20of%20Boren%20Isle.mp3

[Pete Cash]

downloading now... will edit in my opinions.

It is excellent... I mean it is really my scene and all so its style will tickle me anyway. If I had to find flaw it would be the vocalist (both so far) sounds a little strained if you know what I mean.

it got my head banging though and it is fun... I would certainly listen to more of your stuff. The instrumental stuff from around the 3.30 mark to 4.30 is simply fucking awesome and smile inducing, which is the point of this style of metal right....right.

It does feel like it ends a little quickly, like there is no real build up to the finish

But it was excellent.

As you can tell I was writing down thoughts as they came through the song :)

[Alex E]

Thanks. I didn't want to be the typical message board "everyone listen to my awesome band!" guy, but I figured it was the right place. We're looking for a permanent vocalist right now, we're just using the guitarist/songwriter. I'm the drummer, btw.

[Pete Cash]

If you got a top notch vocalist you would be going great. (he isn't bad, he is actually pretty good... just doesn't stamp himself on the music, which you need in power metal)

[Hero!]

I also want to hear an overly detailed report of BG. I can't wait to see them in November. I did something like this a while back, but just to warn people since it only stays for a limited time - I'm going to make a substantial zip file of metal that I think deserves to be listened to tonight and post the link. Probably some bands Pete and Tempest, etc have mentioned.

edit: I know there are some pretty well-versed metal fans in here...please do a me a favour and check out this song my band did, give feedback. http://alexandershaw.ca/mp3s/Alexander%20Shaw%20(feat.%20Alex%20Edye%20&%20Jennifer%20Shaw)%20-%20The%20Pearls%20of%20Boren%20Isle.mp3 (http://alexandershaw.ca/mp3s/Alexander%20Shaw%20%28feat.%20Alex%20Edye%20&%20Jennifer%20Shaw%29%20-%20The%20Pearls%20of%20Boren%20Isle.mp3)


I am PrinceOfPain and I approve! :yes:

One complaint : I'm sorry to say, but the vocals did nothing for me.

[blackening]

i like the song quite a bit and thought it was very good.

:yes:

[Alex E]

Thanks for the compliments...as I mentioned I was working on before, here's a zip of stuff that I think deserves a listen.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7YMCZFKQ

edit: Angra, Wuthering Heights, Into Eternity, Apocalyptica, Adagio, Brainstorm, Pyramaze, Pain of Salvation, Mercenary, Pagan's Mind, Gamma Ray, Arch Enemy, Circus Maximus, Edguy, Evergrey, Kamelot, Masterplan, Rage, Sonata Arctica, Therion (feat. Hansi Kursch)

[Pete Cash]

That Therion song you have uploaded is a beast of a tune

[Aussie_Outlaw]

VOTE QUEENSRYCHE!!! (http://forums.rajah.com/showthread.php?t=121444)

[Pete Cash]

Megawozniak do you guys have a band name and or a myspace. (or something of that kind)

[Tempest]

*Cums*

Guardian were absolutely fucking awesome last night. The crowd was even hotter than I figured they'd be (Drowning out Hansi screams at times...HANSI SCREAMS!!)

Some stupid faggots were booing when Hansi said 'We must play some of the newer stuff' though...

He had to shout 'STOP!' because they wouldn't stop singing the Valhalla chorus long after the song had finished :lol:

They had some pretty neat video wall style thing behind them which was great for songs like Fly and Another Stranger Me especially

Here's an attempt at the set list - I know i've got the encores right, the first and last songs are correct and don't think i've missed any. I'm pretty certain the order is a little mixed up though, so I apologise for that.

War Of Wrath
Into The Storm
The Script For My Requiem
Nightfall
Time Stands Still (At The Iron Hill)
Valhalla
Fly
Bright Eyes
Born In A Mourning Hall
This Will Never End
And Then There Was Silence

Encore 1
Another Stranger Me
Welcome To Dying
Imaginations From The Other Side

Encore 2
Bards Song (Honestly, if you think this is magical hearing or watching it. Man, it totally blew me away)
Mirror Mirror

No Banish From Sanctuary :( - My only complaint though (Other this one little ponce bouncing in and out of the mosh pit pissing everyone off)

But yeah, fucking wicked show, or as Hansi would say FUCKING BRILLIANT AUDIIIIEEEENCE JARRRR (I've been trying to remember all day this one thing he said that made me really laugh - he just out of nowhere said something like ZIZ IS PANDEMONIUUUUUUUM...actually, I think that's what it was. He's such a lovely fellow)

[Ringo]

Yes, yes. It was fantastic.

I think you got Time Stands Still and Born In A Mourning Hall the wrong way round. Other than that, it's about right.

Valhalla (Hansi shouting 'STOP!' :lol: ), The Bard's Song and Mirror Mirror were all highlights, but really the whole show was just fucking brilliant.

I knew they wouldn't play Banish, Majesty or several others, so I wasn't getting my hopes up.

I think I know which little ponce you're talking about Temp.. I must have been near you, I was just in front of him. Yeah, I wanted to punch him in the mouth.

[Tempest]

The shithead with the bleached blond gay hair and white shirt? I actually saw one guy by me go to punch him at one point :mad:

[Pete Cash]

No Modreds song either

But I would take that set list (I would take any setlist)

sounds awesome guys *dies of jealousy* :)

[Bad Obsession]

I don't know how many Agalloch fans there are here (I'm hoping lots, as they're the best metal band around at the moment in my opinion), but they just posted a video for their song 'Not Unlike the Waves' on Myspace. It's AMAZING.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zHcOZhFkEU4

I wish they did more videos, I do believe this is their first. Unfortunately they cut the song a bit so it would go down to 4 minutes :(

[blackening]

thats awesome that you guys got to see Blind Guardian live! :yes:

i would love to, but doubt i will ever be able to.

too bad they didn't play Morderd's Song - it is probably my favorite song of theirs.

[Hero!]

Does anyone here like Opeth? I'm listening to Ghost Reveries and by god, this album is amazing.

[Bad Obsession]

Weakest of their albums, I reckon. Very good, don't get me wrong, but not the amazing progressive quality you expect from them.
Orchid is by FAR their best album, followed by Morningrise, Blackwater Park and Deliverance.

I doubt you'll find one metalhead who doesn't love Opeth. They're pretty much perfection. The way they blend death metal into so many other genres (progressive, doom, folk etc) just makes the most amazing sound.
I prefer their heavier stuff, but their progressive work (Deliverance mostly) is just utterly beautiful.

[Hero!]

Weakest of their albums, I reckon. Very good, don't get me wrong, but not the amazing progressive quality you expect from them.
Orchid is by FAR their best album, followed by Morningrise, Blackwater Park and Deliverance.

I doubt you'll find one metalhead who doesn't love Opeth. They're pretty much perfection. The way they blend death metal into so many other genres (progressive, doom, folk etc) just makes the most amazing sound.
I prefer their heavier stuff, but their progressive work (Deliverance mostly) is just utterly beautiful.

Deliverance was a good album, but I kinda lost it :dead: So Ghost reveries will have to do for now

[blackening]

I don't know how many Agalloch fans there are here (I'm hoping lots, as they're the best metal band around at the moment in my opinion)...
since you keep mentioning them, i decided to give them a shot and i downloaded 'Ashes Against the Grain'. i'm listening to it now, pretty good stuff. i'll post my thoughts after atleast one listen through the album.

how do you pronounce Agalloch?

[Bad Obsession]

I have no idea. :$ I've been saying it Ag-a-lock.

I'm sure that's wrong.

[Alex E]

Don't be too embarassed, it's what I've heard people say and it's what I say.

[Pete Cash]

Hey guys DavePest uploaded a couple of albums for me

http://rapidshare.de/files/34870371/Christ.rar.html which is the new album by vanden plas (which is apparantly excellent)

and http://www.sendspace.com/file/o7bwmc which is a MYSTERY Vanden Plas album

They play Progressive Metal

EDIT

Also BUY BUY BUY if you like

[Cactus Lem]

Vanden Plas :hyper:

I'm not really a fan, but I have a mate who is obsessed with them. He even tried to book them at a show in the UK, until he realised his student loan wasn't going to be enough, and this weekend he's gone off to Bloodstock on his own, drove the 4 hours to get there, just to see Vanden Plas. Oh yeah, he's sleeping in his car all weekend as well.

Good to see some love for a band I hear so much about from one person ussually.

[WizoOzz]

Screaming vocals are overrated and absolute shite.

I know I'm a day late and a dollar short, but . . .

:nono:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Wizzy, stay and vote and play in our listening room polls.

[WizoOzz]

I never "left." I just don't have the time to stay as long as I used to.

And did I hear "Opeth?" You know that word naturally beckons my call.

Ghost Reveries is nowhere near as good as Deliverance. It's at the bottom of my Opeth list, as a matter of fact.

New Cannibal Corpse is greatness. And I managed to check out George "Corpsegrinder" Fisher's other band, Paths of Possession, and they have this album, Promises In Blood. Tis fuckin' awesome. As heavy as Cannibal Corpse, only not as speedy, and way more melodic.

:beer:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

And did I hear "Opeth?" You know that word naturally beckons my call.

Really.. :chin:


I might have to test that out.

:D

[Alex E]

Okay guys, I need some help. The record label just emailed me personally and they want me to interview Hatebreed on their way through town. I know nothing about them, but the more experience the better. Who can point me in the right direction? I'll go look at the wiki and official page first, I guess...

[WizoOzz]

Hatebreed are basically a blend between what's fairly hot in metal right now (i.e. crunchy, heavy riffs w/ growling vocals), what I consider "good" punk, and I want to say east coast hardcore (but I'm not entirely familiar with the two coasts' sounds as it pertains to "hardcore"). Jaemy (sp?) Jasta is the host of MTV 2's Headbanger's Ball. Their albums are all pretty decent, songs runs a minute and a half to three and a half minutes (none of their albums exceeds an hour), and each song is basically like a punch in the chest.

The message of the music is typical hardcore fodder - keep keeping me down, I'm going to get the fuck up regardless. I want to say that the message is basically positive with a somewhat negative twist, that is, instilling self-worth regardless of having to trample on others.

I, personally, dig 'em. Even if they're kind of a one-trick pony.

See also:

Official Site (http://www.hatebreed.com)
Roadrunner Records Hatebreed Info (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/artists/Hatebreed/)
Hatebreed's MySpace Page (http://www.myspace.com/hatebreed)

[PepperCarrot]

Hatebreed are basically a blend between what's fairly hot in metal right now (i.e. crunchy, heavy riffs w/ growling vocals), what I consider "good" punk, and I want to say east coast hardcore (but I'm not entirely familiar with the two coasts' sounds as it pertains to "hardcore"). Jaemy (sp?) Jasta is the host of MTV 2's Headbanger's Ball. Their albums are all pretty decent, songs runs a minute and a half to three and a half minutes (none of their albums exceeds an hour), and each song is basically like a punch in the chest.

The message of the music is typical hardcore fodder - keep keeping me down, I'm going to get the fuck up regardless. I want to say that the message is basically positive with a somewhat negative twist, that is, instilling self-worth regardless of having to trample on others.

I, personally, dig 'em. Even if they're kind of a one-trick pony.

See also:

Official Site (http://www.hatebreed.com)
Roadrunner Records Hatebreed Info (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/artists/Hatebreed/)
Hatebreed's MySpace Page (http://www.myspace.com/hatebreed)


Hatebreed is more hardcore then metal really. Wouldn't call them "what's hot in metal".

[blackening]

I don't know how many Agalloch fans there are here (I'm hoping lots, as they're the best metal band around at the moment in my opinion)...

i listened to their 'Ashes Against the Grain' album. the music is certainly interesting and when the lead singer actually sings it sounds cool, but i'm just not a fan of that style of vocals.

:\

[Bad Obsession]

To each their own I guess. I love his style of screaming. It's not too hardcore, nor is it too clean. I find it adds a lot of atmosphere to the tracks and is often rather haunting. The times when he whispers is utterly amazing IMO.
They're very much like Woods of Ypres in that respect.

I'm finding it quite odd the ammount of people in this thread who aren't big on that type of vocals. Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course, I just don't think I've met so many metalheads that didn't dig it! :p

[Pete Cash]

When my internet stops being a gay I will check some of it out

[Aussie_Outlaw]

There's a great new 3 piece metal band out of the UK.

Think Edguy, except it's not exactly the girls who will be swooning. They're fun and they're a little bit odd... err I mean queer.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f172/tempestofthereich/raajh2.jpg

I can't remember their name though. Tempest knows them, he'll remember.

[Pete Cash]

They look so happy.

I had to ask if the person in the middle was a gay because he looked pretty straight if you ask me

The guy on the left hand side is a total bender though

[aBBy]

I have another metal question since I'm going to update my music collection.

What are you guys opinion on As I Lay Dying, Bleeding Through, Chimaira and Children of Bodom? I've heard a fair bit from each of these bands and I really like what Im hearing but I'm on a budget so I can't get them all and so I was hoping maybe you can guide me to which is the better album to purchase? I could just download them thats true and I have already done that with some of there songs, but I love owning them aswell.

My metal collection is building nicely and I want to keep it going! I'll appreciate any feedback :)

[Nemesis]

You couldn't go wrong with any Children of Bodom album. At least in my opinion.

Though, any hardcore CoB fan would tell you to buy Follow the Reaper, which isn't a bad place to start.

Something Wild is good, but it's a little rough around the edges. It still stands up to the rest of their albums pretty well, though.

Hatebreeder is decent, it's got more of a vintage sound production that you may or may not like.

Follow the Reaper probably has the most "power metal" sound production to it. It's probably their most solid album, too.

Hatecrew Deathroll has a more modern sound. Still a good album, but it all depends on what you're looking for.

Are You Dead Yet? has even more of a modern sound to it. I still don't think it takes away from the band, though.

So yeah, Follow the Reaper would probably be your best bet.

[Nemesis]

New Cannibal Corpse is greatness. And I managed to check out George "Corpsegrinder" Fisher's other band, Paths of Possession, and they have this album, Promises In Blood. Tis fuckin' awesome. As heavy as Cannibal Corpse, only not as speedy, and way more melodic.

:beer:

Is this Kill you're talking about? A more melodic Cannibal Corpse?? Wow, I'll have to check this one out. Bloodthirst is probably my favorite album of theirs, but I'm not too familiar with the Barnes-era stuff (save Butchered at Birth), or The Wretched Spawn, to be fair.




I almost forgot, I just heard a song from a Hardcore/Metalcore/Whatever band called Double Dragon. Decent stuff. But then again, any act that steals its name from the greatest beat-em-up video game of all time better be decent, at least.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Went to the Melbourne show today. Picked up this anthrax poster....

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/6980/anthraxjudgedreddnz9.jpg

And the Megadeth Rust In Peace one, both laminated $30. :yes:

And if anyone hasn't VOTED FOR QUEENSRYCHE YET (http://forums.rajah.com/showthread.php?t=121444) they better do so as we're almost being knocked out by U2 (5 hours to go)

[WizoOzz]

Hatebreed is more hardcore then metal really. Wouldn't call them "what's hot in metal".

By "hot," I meant, the trends which are appearing more and more frequently in metal, not necessarily what I like.

Take a look at MTV2's Headbanger's Ball - there are more and more "hardcore" style bands on there every week.

Hence that style is "hot" right now. It may not be somewhere down the line.


Is this Kill you're talking about? A more melodic Cannibal Corpse?? Wow, I'll have to check this one out. Bloodthirst is probably my favorite album of theirs, but I'm not too familiar with the Barnes-era stuff (save Butchered at Birth), or The Wretched Spawn, to be fair.

Kill is good. But I was talking about "Corpsegrinder's" other band, Paths of Possession. It's good stuff. Like I said, as heavy as Cannibal Corpse, but not as speedy and tons more melody.

As far as Barnes' Corpse stuff, check out The Bleeding. Tis magnificence.

[Cactus Lem]

I have another metal question since I'm going to update my music collection.

What are you guys opinion on As I Lay Dying, Bleeding Through, Chimaira and Children of Bodom? I've heard a fair bit from each of these bands and I really like what Im hearing but I'm on a budget so I can't get them all and so I was hoping maybe you can guide me to which is the better album to purchase? I could just download them thats true and I have already done that with some of there songs, but I love owning them aswell.

My metal collection is building nicely and I want to keep it going! I'll appreciate any feedback :)

I love As I Lay Dying. One of the cream of the crop as far as Metalcore bands go. If I was to recommend an album I'd say their latest release Shadows are Security. Non stop rampant and in your face from start to finish, and a damn good album to listen to when angry.

You can't go wrong with their second album As Frail Words Collapse either really, I'd put it a notch bellow Shadows, and it's an album that I find doesn't have the Metal edge that Shadows has, I find it edges more towards Hardcore than Metal, but it's still a bloody good album. One thing I like about the album is the well paced melodic breakdowns which don't appear on Shadows.

I don't like Bodom and I think Bleeding Through are complete wank. I heard Love Lost in a Hail of Gunfire by Bleeding Through and loved it, so I picked up the album with that track on when I was in the US about 2 years ago, and I honestly thought the album was really bad, and found that the single that I heard was the only decent track on the album. I heard their newest album The Truth as well, and thought it stunk.

Chimaira are a band I really loved about three years ago as the shift in trend from Nu-Metal to Metalcore started. I really hated Nu-metal, and the more Metal sound that started emerging with the whole 'New Wave of American Heavy Metal' movement (dubbed that by the Metal Press anyway) was something I really liked, as it was a nice shift back to proper metal rather than the poor excuse for Metal that was Nu Metal. I found Chimaira were a band who really captured the fresh sound and I loved them the first time I heard them. Impossibility of Reason was an album I listened to non stop a few years back, and if I was to recommend an album it would be that one. Latest release 'Chimaira' is heavy as fuck, and worth a listen, whatever you do avoid their first album though, it's wank.



Went to the Melbourne show today. Picked up this anthrax poster....





And the Megadeth Rust In Peace one, both laminated $30.

I have that Anthrax design in T-Shirt form, great shirt it is, the back of it is also immense.

[blackening]

I don't like Bodom...

how come?

[Pete Cash]

http://forums.rajah.com/showthread.php?t=121650

VOTE METAL

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Vote Edguy more to the point.

[Cactus Lem]

how come?

I can't give a concrete reason really, just whenever I listen to them I think their a little 'messy' at times, and just feel there are much better metal bands with a simmilar style out there.

I have a friend who loves them, so I've heard quite a bit of them before and I just never feel what he loves about them, but I can understand why people would like them.

I'll be seeing Bodom on the Unholy Alliance Tour next month actually, so you never know they could win me over with a good performance.

[Tempest]

Gigantour - Cemetary Gates

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEFPd7BZhFc

Russell Allen showing up the other vocalists :p

Been waiting AGES to see this though, ever since I heard it had happened

[SerialHunter]

[color=#a0e00a]Went to the Melbourne show today. Picked up this anthrax poster....

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/6980/anthraxjudgedreddnz9.jpg


I... AM... THE... LAW...


(bastard im so jealous...)

[Pete Cash]

I can't give a concrete reason really, just whenever I listen to them I think their a little 'messy' at times, and just feel there are much better metal bands with a simmilar style out there.

I have a friend who loves them, so I've heard quite a bit of them before and I just never feel what he loves about them, but I can understand why people would like them.

I'll be seeing Bodom on the Unholy Alliance Tour next month actually, so you never know they could win me over with a good performance.

How many other groups play power metal with a growling vocalist.... is it that common, have I missed a massive movement.

I hate Children of Bodom for the groups massive WE DONT PLAY POWER METAL PLEASE DONT SAY WE PLAY POWER METAL COME ON GUYS... NOT POWER METAL statements

When Power Metal is obviously what they play.