Metal Discussion Thread

[Deathcow]

Heh. Okay Deathcow.

Rain, Like Light to Flies, and Declaration sound so close you can't tell them apart! :rolleyes:

............:shifty:

Okay, so I was wrong. But they're still nothing to orgasm over.

[SerialHunter]

read in an interview that after he's finisahed with the ozzfest/sabbath dates him and Glenn are gonna tour. And he mentioned that he would love to have GZR playing with them :headbang:

Now that would be one fucking show.
I've heard some tracks from "Omhwork" and they're quite good!, im up for the tour.

But im looking forward to listen for some new Sabbath music

[Crabby]

Any of you folks going to Ozzfest? I'll be at the Boston show and it should be awesome.

I went and caught the Dirty Black Summer Tour at the CBGB a few nights back, it's a cool place despite its shitty condition and it's a shame that it looks like it'll be shutting down pretty soon.It was loads of Hardcore/Metalcore bands, with NY Hardcore band Full Blown Chaos being the highlight.Himsa were good as well, but Roadrunner favourites The Agony Scene were very,very average, sounding like a poor man's Chimaira in a lot of places.Good night overall, though.

Checked out the Sthress Tour at BB King's Blues Club as well, which is a really cool place (even if the beer is not surprisingly ridiculously over-priced).Fight Paris were pretty eh.Misery Signals were better with a solid reception and plenty of spirit fingers on display.

Darkest Hour were the best band of the night- they were more of a Lamb Of God-meets-Slayer crossed with In Flames style Thrash than the rest of the Hardcore/Metalcore stylings of the rest of the bands.Great energy, I picked up their latest album (which is produced by Devin Townsend) and a T-Shirt as well.Zao were also good if a little too monotonous.Bleeding Through don't appeal to me at all, but it was fun to watch the massive circle pits they had going.

Good night overall and I look forward to going there again tonight to see the Maiden/Priest/Sabbath tribute show that's on, seeing as Fozzy pulled out of it.Speaking of Fozzy, I've been informed via e-mail that I have my tickets for their Sydney show.Fucking yay.

[SerialHunter]

That's cool Crabs, i would love to go to Ozzfest but i'll wait for the next year.

By the way im going to catch In Flames ans Trivium in concert at Toronto, but there's also another with Mudwayne/Trivium/In Flames/Shadows Fall my point is: Should i go to both? to be honest im only a fan of Trivium and In Flames, but since you say that Sahadow's Fall are so good live maybe i should...

...oh and Mudwayne sucks ass

[Bandit]

I'm going to ozzfest. The day before I'm seeing Shadows Fall, Trivium and Mudvayne. The day after I'm seeing In Flames, Arch Enemy, and Black Dahlia Murder. I'm going with a group of my friends, and we're making that fri-sun a metal weekend. :yes:

[Ringo]

Woah. How did I manage to always overlook Evergrey? They're fucking brilliant. Anyone else a fan?

[Psycho Hank]

I wanted to go to Ozzfest this year, but none of my friends wanted to go because: A: they haven't heard of most of the bands or B: they don't like metal.

I don't want to go by myself. It sucks going to concerts by yourself.

[Alex E]

Woah. How did I manage to always overlook Evergrey? They're fucking brilliant. Anyone else a fan?

The talent, etc, is there but for some reason I'm just not excited by most of their material. I also felt that The Inner Circle put too much focus on concept, although it was well done. Good band live, I've seen them 3 or 4 times.

[Psycho Hank]

Do you guys know any metal instrumental bands? I quite like Ashes of the Wake by Lamb of God which is an instrumental. I'm looking for stuff similar to that. Any suggestions? Thanks. :yes:

[Ringo]

The talent, etc, is there but for some reason I'm just not excited by most of their material. I also felt that The Inner Circle put too much focus on concept, although it was well done. Good band live, I've seen them 3 or 4 times.

I originally found their stuff pretty generic, but I just think they're great now.

Some more bands I'm into at the moment:

Ayreon
Van Helsing's Curse
Pagan's Mind
Orphaned Land

[Bandit]

Nice selection Ringmaster. :yes:

Psycho Hank, check out old old In Flames stuff. They have instrumental songs from Whoracle, The Jester Race, Lunar Strain, And Subterranean. GREAT instrumental stuff, may I add. :beer:

[Ringo]

:yes:

I've got to thank you Bandit for getting me in to Moonsorrow. They're just about the best band ever. Good call.

[Alex E]

I originally found their stuff pretty generic, but I just think they're great now.

Some more bands I'm into at the moment:

Ayreon
Van Helsing's Curse
Pagan's Mind
Orphaned Land

Meh, Ayreon is another of those bands where I realize that they have talent, but for some reason can't get into it. The guests are varied though. As far as collaborative efforts go, I sort of liked Aina :$

I've never heard of VHC, can you describe them? I'll check them out...

Pagan's Mind is great...I can't decide whether I like Enigmatic: Calling more than the second cd, but they're both great. The guys in the band are all great, too...I have a picture of me putting hats on a passed out Stian.

Orphaned Land, as I said, is :yes:

Anyone heard the Rusell/Lande album? It's so bland.

[Bandit]

:yes:

I've got to thank you Bandit for getting me in to Moonsorrow. They're just about the best band ever. Good call.
Definitely, I actually listened to Kivenkantaja yesterday. :yes:

[Psycho Hank]

What's the opinion on All That Remains by Fozzy? I like it. :)

[Ringo]

I've never heard of VHC, can you describe them? I'll check them out...


Hard to say really, a lot of strings by the sound of things. They're in the same mould as Ayreon, Evergrey, Orphaned Land. A Combination of all of them, just download some of their stuff. I doubt you won't like them..

[Psycho Hank]

Six Feet Under

I have Graveyard Classics and Graveyard Classics 2, but I'm looking for an original album by them. Which album would you recommend getting first? I have Amerika the Brutal from the Uncorrupted Steel 2 compilation, and quite enjoy the song. I'm thinking of buying the album with that song on it, but what are your suggestions?

[Nemesis]

Amerika the Brutal is on Bringer of Blood, but I wouldn't recommend buying it. It's awful. It's the only CD I've bought and then sold for a long, long time. The only one besides Graveyard Classics I have is Maximum Violence, and it's ok.

Graveyard Classics is good for a laugh, especially Purple Haze and TNT. I gotta go see which ones they covered on the second disc.

[Psycho Hank]

Amerika the Brutal is on Bringer of Blood, but I wouldn't recommend buying it. It's awful. It's the only CD I've bought and then sold for a long, long time. The only one besides Graveyard Classics I have is Maximum Violence, and it's ok.

Graveyard Classics is good for a laugh, especially Purple Haze and TNT. I gotta go see which ones they covered on the second disc.

They covered AC/DC's whole Back in Black album for Graveyard 2

[Deathcow]

I have the Six Feet Under discography...and I can't stand their AC/DC covers. The only cover that I really like from them is "Blackout" originally by Scorpions.

[Deathcow]

I'm going to ozzfest. The day before I'm seeing Shadows Fall, Trivium and Mudvayne. The day after I'm seeing In Flames, Arch Enemy, and Black Dahlia Murder. I'm going with a group of my friends, and we're making that fri-sun a metal weekend. :yes:

You're going to see Killswitch Engage at Ozzfest aren't you? You lucky bastard.

[Bandit]

I'm seeing them twice, the day before ozzfest, and at ozzfest. :yes:

And I've seen them before.

[Nemesis]

They covered AC/DC's whole Back in Black album for Graveyard 2

Hahaha. That's awesome.


I have the Six Feet Under discography...and I can't stand their AC/DC covers. The only cover that I really like from them is "Blackout" originally by Scorpions.

That and TNT are the first ones that spring to mind for me. The only thing I don't like about the Blackout cover is how much John Bush's vocals suck, compared to how well they usually are.

[Nemesis]

Judas Priest kick serious ass.

And old-school Anthrax.

I've had an epiphany tonight, despite owning albums of those aforementioned subjects. :ashamed:

[Tempest]

Anyone have the new Shadow Gallery album? I'm a bit broke at the moment, but if it's worth it i'll make sure I keep enough to go get it :yes:

[Nemesis]

Shareaza's on for me.

What do they sound like?

...a dumb question for a file-sharer, but I'm lazy :\

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I finally got around to picking up Dream Theater's Octavarium as well as the Live at Budokan DVD.

Did this as I took my girlfriend to go and buy the Harry Potter book today. It's funny how the DVD has alot of movie style angles which is strange for music dvd. Also it's quite clear in watching it, there is a distinct change is style from I&W/A to the current era. It's strange to watch them play the older songs, as there is more general song structure and less technical brilliance. (compared to now).

As for Octavium, it is the distinct DT sound, I hear some 'ryche type bits in it as well. It's clear that 'I walk beside you' is the single from the album (and some kind of generic rock type ballad). Also in production it seems that it's more of a blanket production rather than the clear ones from ToT or 6DOIT. Not by much but it's there. I'll say something later when I've listened to it more and more properly.

[Pete Cash]

With their Metropolis 2000: Scenes from New York DVD there was so many different and strange fills and edits that I thought my head would explode.

Do they do audio commentry on the budokan DVD, because that was one of the cooler features on lMetropolis 2000: Scenes from New York.

I thought there was quite a bit of muse in Octavarium.

and yeah yeah Tempest, I am the one who got you into Shadow Gallery in the first place.... and I don't have the album :(, maybe metaltorrents will have it, although that would be uhh wrong.

[Tempest]

and yeah yeah Tempest, I am the one who got you into Shadow Gallery in the first place.... and I don't have the album


You got me into a good chunk of what I listen to...what's your point?

Oh oh, okay. I hereby dedicate everything I say, ask or utter about music to Ass Crippler, for without this man, I would surely not be here today *Wipes tear from eye*

(Even if I have heard more of Shadow Gallerys music than you)

:p

[N.E.R.F.]

Getting into Edguy at the moment :yes:

Bought Hellfire Club, what should I get next?

[Pete Cash]

You should buy music by Blind Guardian instead. :p

BUT if you are going to stick with Edguy then uhh I like Mandrake and Burning Down The Opera.

actually most of their full lengths aren't bad.

Thanks Tempest, I fully value that :D :cool:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

NERF: Get Mandrake, it's widely regarded their best.

No Audio commentary on Live At Budokan, but an extras disc, and the sound of the set is pretty decent also.

[Psycho Hank]

I bought Burn the Priest yesterday, didn't have a chance really to listen to it as I was listening to ZZ Top's Greatest Hits instead, but what's the general opinion on it? I only got it because it's Lamb of God related.

[Psycho Hank]

This is amazing. I love it. I gotta get more Lamb of God shit now. :yes: I'm currently listening to Suffering Bastard

[Alex E]

I'd have to go with Mandrake for Edguy. Or, their recently released 2 cd best of, Hall of Flames. It has nothing from Hellfire Club...it focuses mainly on Theatre of Salvation and Mandrake, as I recall. Also, if you get the chance to see Edguy live, do it...kickass show, although he spends 2 songs worth of time doing pseudo-improv standup...

[Nemesis]

I bought Burn the Priest yesterday, didn't have a chance really to listen to it as I was listening to ZZ Top's Greatest Hits instead, but what's the general opinion on it?

I liked what I've heard of it so far. More of a raw and frantic sound than what they are now, not necessarily better, but a good change of pace.



I think I'm going to get the new Necrophagia CD sometime before I move. Sounds awesome.

[Deathcow]

Has anyone heard Chimaera? Not Chimaira, but Chimaera...two different bands, Chimaera are pretty awesome.

The Haunted, Caliban and Heaven Shall Burn are fairly new to me as well, and they're all worth a look from anyone that likes the sounds of KsE. (Particularly Caliban)

Burn the Priest is alright too, but the hidden track (at the end of 'Duane') is probably my favorite from them...pre-LoG that is.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Queensryche has two bootlegs from the new album [ Operation Mindcrime II] (average quality) on their website. I guess if the album is seen as a piece of shit, the band will be Officially over. Since this is virtually the last ditch effort from the guys to reform their career.

And am I the only one who wants DT to put out something in a classic Rush/Genesis/Yes/Floyd vein rather than the stuff they're doing today?

[Ringo]

Queensryche has two bootlegs from the new album [ Operation Mindcrime II] (average quality) on their website. I guess if the album is seen as a piece of shit, the band will be Officially over. Since this is virtually the last ditch effort from the guys to reform their career.

:cry:


And am I the only one who wants DT to put out something in a classic Rush/Genesis/Yes/Floyd vein rather than the stuff they're doing today?


More like Images and Words?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

No I guess I'm thinking of something more funky (Pain Of Salvation's Entropia as a modern example) yet still similiar to their sound. We're not going to get anything like I&W ever again since it used to be Portnoy/Petrucci playing around while Moore/Myung used to keep the band grounded. Yet now with Moore out and Rudess in, it's more like Liquid Tension Experiment with everything going nuts.

[Ringo]

No I guess I'm thinking of something more funky (Pain Of Salvation's Entropia as a modern example) yet still similiar to their sound. We're not going to get anything like I&W ever again since it used to be Portnoy/Petrucci playing around while Moore/Myung used to keep the band grounded. Yet now with Moore out and Rudess in, it's more like Liquid Tension Experiment with everything going nuts.

Yeah, I see what you mean. More Genesis-like. Dream Theater have never been a full on prog band though, but it would be brilliant.

Do have the 'BE' DVD from PoS, by the way? I'm thinking of getting it..

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Of course I do :p

Though not the DVD version yet. It's good, very good. :yes: I'm reviewed (http://forums.rajah.com/showpost.php?p=2866603&postcount=594) it before on Raj. :)

[N.E.R.F.]

Rudess is a beast. Love him.

[Ringo]

:yes:


'Tis a good review, but of course I knew you had the album. You were the one that recommended it to me in the first place. It's the DVD I'm thinking of getting.


Several DVDs actually..

Live at Budokan - DT
Live Scenes - DT
Evergrey - A Night to remember
BE - PoS
Imaginations Through The looking Glass - Blind Guardian


Hnmmm... :chin:

[Ringo]

Kevin Moore > Rudess

[N.E.R.F.]

Now that's just not true :nono:

Rudess and his sexy bald head :drool:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Kevin Moore > Rudess

:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:

The Budokan DVD is quality, the live scenes one supposedly has average audio but a nice commentary track. And I'm still yet to get BE.

Kevin Moore kicks Rudess easily. He's more original and his use of sampling is top rate. Rudess, bah, listen to his solos, they suck.

[Ringo]

:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:

The Budokan DVD is quality, the live scenes one supposedly has average audio but a nice commentary track. And I'm still yet to get BE.

Kevin Moore kicks Rudess easily. He's more original and his use of sampling is top rate. Rudess, bah, listen to his solos, they suck.


Kevin Moore's just fucking brilliant though.


And while we're on the subject, a chance for me to post another of these lists.
:)


Top 100 Rock Keyboardists

I've highlighted some of the related ones.. (Dream Theater)

1. Keith Emerson (ELP)
2. Rick Wakeman (Yes)
3. Jon Lord (Deep Purple)
4. Ray Manzarek (The Doors)
5. Richard Wright (Pink Floyd)
6. Tony Banks (Genesis)
7. Billy Preston
8. Ian Underwood (The Mothers Of Invention)
9. Steve Winwood (Traffic)
10. Nicky Hopkins (Rolling Stones, Jeff Beck)
11. Al Kooper (Blood Sweat & Tears)
12. Jordan Rudess (Dream Theater, The Dregs)
13. Tony Hymas (Jeff Beck)
14. Gregg Allman (Allman Brothers Band)
15. Booker T. Jones
16. Jan Hammer
17. Kevin Moore (Dream Theater)
18. Gregg Rolie (Santana, Journey)
19. Brian Eno
20. T. Lavitz (The Dregs)
21. Richard Tandy (ELO)
22. Dennis De Young (Styx)
23. Jens Johansen (Yngwie Malmsteen)
24. Kerry Livgren (Kansas)
25. Rod Argent (Zombies, Argent)
26. George Duke (Frank Zappa/Solo)
27. Don Airey (Rainbow, Ozzy, Deep Purple)
28. Garth Hudson (The Band)
29. David Sancious (Springsteen, Santana, Sting)
30. Ian Mclagan (Rolling Stones, Faces)
31. Allan Zavod (Frank Zappa)
32. Steve Nieve (Elvis Costello)
33. Max Middleton (Jeff Beck)
34. Billy Powell (Lynyrd Skynyrd)
35. Derek Sherinian (Dream Theater)
36. Isaac Hayes
37. Jimmy Greenspoon (Three Dog Night)
38. Jon Carin (Pink Floyd, Roger Waters)
39. Tony MacAlpine
40. Ken Hensley (Uriah Heep)
41. Benmont Tench (The Heartbreakers)
42. Matthew Fisher (Procol Harum, Solo)
43. Stevie Wonder
44. Amos Milburn
45. Jonathan Cain (Journey, Solo)
46. Geoff Downes (Yes, Asia)
47. Allen Ravenstine (Pere Ubu)
48. Roy Bittan (E Street Band)
49. Patrick Moraz (Moody Blues, Yes, Solo)
50. Matt Bellamy (Muse)
51. Alan Price (The Animals)
52. Leon Russell
53. Michael Mcdonald (Doobie Borothers)
54. John Paul Jones (Led Zeppelin)
55. Bob Mayo (Frampton)
56. Mike Pinder (Moody Blues)
57. Tony Kaye (Yes)
58. Bill Payne (Little Feat)
59. Richard Tee (Paul Simon, Peter Gabriel, James Brown)
60. Claudio Simonetti (Goblin)
61. Bernie Worrell (Talking Heads, Funkadelic)
62. David Rosenthal (Rainbow)
63. Roddy Bottum (Faith No More)
64. Robert Lamm (Chicago)
65. Michael Pinella (Symphony X)
66. Ron "Pigpen" McKernan (Grateful Dead)
67. Chuck Leavell (Allman Brothers, Rolling Stones)
68. Vincent Crane (Arthur Brown)
69. Peter Bardens
70. Jools Holland (Squeeze)
71. Bobby Whitlock (Derek & The Dominos)
72. Neal Doughty (REO Speedwagon)
73. Mike Garson (David Bowie)
74. Larry Knechtel (Bread, Smith)
75. Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails)
76. Burton Cummings (Guess Who)
77. Jeff Chimenti (Rat Dog, The Dead)
78. Gary Wright
79. Chris Stainton (Joe Cocker's Grease Band)
80. Dick Sims (Eric Clapton, Bob Seger)
81. John Evan (Jethro Tull)
82. Janne Warman (Children of Bodom, Warmen)
83. Roger Powell (Todd Rundgren, David Bowie)
84. Rick Davies (Supertramp)
85. Paul "Wix" Wickens (Paul McCartney)
86. Art Neville
87. Mark Mancina (Yes)
88. Mark Stein (Vanilla Fudge)
89. Felix Cavaliere Rascals
90. Page McConnell (Phish)
91. Edgar Winter
92. Roger O'Donnell (The Cure)
93. Eric Drew Feldman (Captain Beefheart)
94. Mark Kelly (Marillion)
95. David Greenfield (The Stranglers)
96. Goldy McJohn (Steppenwolf)
97. Allen Lanier (Blue Oyster Cult)
98. Kerry Minnear (Gentle Giant)
99. Tony Carey (Rainbow)
100. Manfred Mann

:mad:

[N.E.R.F.]

I TOLD YOU :p

[Ringo]

And here's the 100 Greatest Metal/Hard Rock Guitarists according to this site. Hey, why not?


It's based upon creativity, technical skill, versatility, discipline and tecnique. NOT popularity...

1. Ron Thal - Bumblefoot, Solo
2. Paul Gilbert - Racer X, Mr. Big, Solo
3. Steve Vai - Solo, David Lee Roth, Whitesnake
4. Marty Friedman - Cacophony, Megadeth, Solo
5. Randy Rhoads - Quiet Riot, Ozzy
6. Buckethead - Solo, Guns N Roses
7. Mattias IA Eklundh - Freak Kitchen
8. Steve Morse - Deep Purple, Dixie Dregs, Solo
9. Michael Romeo - Symphony X, Solo
10. Stephan Forte - Solo, Adagio
11. Yngwie Malmsteen - Steeler, Rising Force, Solo
12. John Petrucci - Dream Theater, Liquid Tension Exp.
13. Michael Angelo Batio - Solo
14. Jason Becker - Cacophony, David Lee Roth, Solo
15. Joe Satriani - Solo
16. Greg Howe - Planet X, Solo
17. Tony MacAlpine - Solo, M.A.R.S., Planet X, Ring Of Fire
18. Ritchie Blackmore - Deep Purple, Rainbow
19. Vinnie Moore - Alice Cooper, Solo
20. Nuno Bettencourt - Extreme, Mourning Widows, Solo
21. Chris Poland - Megadeth
22. George Lynch - Dokken, Lynch Mob, Solo
23. Neal Schon - Santana, Journey, Solo, Soul Sirkus
24. Jeff Loomis - Nevermore
25. Vito Bratta - White Lion
26. Alex Skolnik - Testament
27. Al Pitrelli - Trans-Siberian Orchestra, Savatage, Megadeth
28. Michael Schenker - MSG, Scorpions, Contraband, Solo
29. Jesper Strömblad - In Flames
30. Stevie Blaze - Lillian Axe, Angel, Near Life Experience
31. Gary Hoey - Solo
32. Doug Aldrich - House Of Lords, Dio, Whitesnake
33. Dimebag Darrell - Pantera
34. Ritchie Kotzen - Solo, Poison, Mr. Big
35. Fredrik Thordendal - Meshuggah
36. Zakk Wylde - Ozzy, Pride & Glory, B.L.S., Solo
37. Chris Impellitteri - Impellitteri
38. Steve Stevens - Billy Idol, Atomic Playboys, Solo
39. Adrian Smith - Iron Maiden
40. Uli Jon Roth - Scorpions, Solo
41. Akira Takasaki - Lazy, Loudness, Ji-Zo, Solo
42. Alexi 'Wildchild' Laiho - Children of Bodom
43. Timo Tolkki - Stratovarius
44. Eddie Van Halen - Van Halen
45. Chuck Schuldiner - Death
46. Jim Matheos - Fates Warning
47. Andy Timmons - Danger Danger, Solo
48. Jerry Cantrell - Alice 'n Chains, Solo
49. Hary Cody - Shotgun Messiah, Sessions
50. John Sykes - Thin Lizzy, Whitesnake, Blue Murder, Solo
51. Ty Tabor - Kings X
52. Chris Degarmo - Queensryche, Jerry Cantrell
53. Jake E. Lee - Ratt, Cutting Crew, Ozzy, Badlands, Solo
54. Reb Beach - Winger, Dokken, Whitesnake, Solo
55. Vernon Reid - Living Colour, Solo
56. Tony Iommi - Black Sabbath
57. Ronnie Montrose - Montrose
58. Wolf Hoffman - Accept, Solo
59. Dave Mustaine - Megadeth
60. Vivian Cambell - Dio, Def Leppard
61. Michael Wilton - Queensryche
62. Rusty Cooley - Solo
63. Slash - Guns N Roses, Snake Pit, Velvet Revolver
64. Dave Murray - Iron Maiden
65. Kirk Hammet - Metallica
66. John Norum - Europe, Dokken, Don Dokken
67. Blues Saraceno - Solo, Poison
68. Glen Tipton - Judas Priest
69. Jon Lively - Warlock, Dokken
70. Dave Meniketti - Y & T
71. Billy Duffy - The Cult
72. Dan Huff - Giant, Sessions
73. Warren Dimartini - Ratt
74. Tom Morello - RATM, Audioslave
75. Mark Kendall - Great White, Solo
76. Tracii Guns - Guns N Roses, L.A. Guns
77. Matthias Jabs - Scorpions
78. Glen Buxton - Alice Cooper
79. Mikael Akerfeldt - Opeth
80. Herman Li - Dragon Force
81. Sam Totman - Dragon Force, Shadow Warriors
82. KK Downing - Judas Priest
83. Ricthie Sambora - Bon Jovi, Solo
84. Kerry King - Slayer
85. Jeff Hanneman - Slayer
86. Mick Thomson - Slipknot
87. Thomas Youngblood - Kamelot
88. Phil Collen - Def Leppard
89. Reggie Wu - Heaven's Edge
90. Daron Malakian - System of a Down
91. Janick Gerrs - Iron Maiden
92. Jason Beiler - Saigon Kick
93. Brent Woods - Wildside, Vince Neil
94. Tak Matsumoto - TMG
95. Ted Nugent - Solo, Damn Yankees
96. James Hetfield - Metallica
97. Angus Young - AC/DC
98. John Christ - Danzig
100. Kim Thayil - Soundgarden


Herman Li and Michael Romeo :hyper:

[Ringo]

I TOLD YOU :p


Yeah, well.. these lists are shite anyway.



:mad:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Moore's OSI is better than any of the later DT albums anyway :p Moore sets a vibe better than Rudess does. By far.

[N.E.R.F.]

I can't be bothered telling you why you're wrong but you just are :)

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Moore's solo work > Rudess' Solo work.

OSI > LTE

I&W/Awake > 6DOIT/ToT

Space Dye Vest > *

[N.E.R.F.]

The piano bit in Blind Faith + Rudess as a skinhead > everything.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

But they're smashed to pieces by Wait For Sleep and Learning to Live. Rudess has no style, it's just flat out pace. And in a band with 2 members already like that, it detracts from the whole. Moore learns what works best and compliments everyone beautifully. Also Another Day :p

Skinheads? Who gives a damn. Though i did like Moore better with long hair rather than his shorter cut now :(

[Ringo]

What I want to know is how did the members of Dream Theater come to meet? At some kind of club that only accepts outstandingly talented musicians?

[N.E.R.F.]

Hey :mad:

Rudess is better because I said so. Logic and reasoning don't come into it. Also I haven't seen DT live with Moore so I'm more than a little biased :)

[Ringo]

I better get tickets for their October show bloody quick..

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Berklee College of Music in the mid 80's.

John Petrucci, John Myung and Mike Portnoy were at Berklee College of Music. Kevin Moore was a high school band-mate of Petrucci's.

LaBrie joined after looking for vocallists in 1991.

Moore quit in 94 and Derek Sherinian joined because Rudess turned them down. Then Rudess joined after LTE and they kicked Derek out.

[N.E.R.F.]

I better get tickets for their October show bloody quick..

:cool:

Going to the 24th, depending on uni timetables will be going to the 25th and 26th :fingersx:

[Ringo]

That would make sense. How did they come across Charlie Dominici? Was he there as well? I fucking hate his voice, he's shit.

[Ringo]

:cool:

Going to the 24th, depending on uni timetables will be going to the 25th and 26th :fingersx:

It's all sitting by the look of it..

:wtf:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

He auditioned after the original vocalist Chris Collins left.

he was kicked out of the band because his vocal style and general attitude to music did not fit in with the heavy metal portion of their compositions. Also with personal differences with the rest of the group.

[Ringo]

:yes:

[N.E.R.F.]

It's all sitting by the look of it..

:wtf:

Yeah that doesn't make sense either, last tour they had all standing and it was the same venue.

[Ringo]

I'm still to get Six Degrees, Train Of Thought or any of the live albums. Which should I get first?

[Ringo]

Yeah that doesn't make sense either, last tour they had all standing and it was the same venue.

I saw Nick Cave at the Apollo and it was all sitting, but this is Dream Theater. Still, I'll make sure I get them soon..

[Pete Cash]

Has anyone heard the new Nevermore album "This Godless Endeavor", it is pretty fucking good from the two or three plays I have given it. Warrel Dane sounds half decent after the shitty work on Enemies of Reality and of course it goes without saying that Jeff Loomis is brilliant.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

As good as Dead Heart? I blame Kelly Gray at fault for Enemies Of Reality with that shitty mix. I hear they're thinking about remastering it. Is that true?

[N.E.R.F.]

I'm still to get Six Degrees, Train Of Thought or any of the live albums. Which should I get first?
How can you NOT have Six Degrees? Get that next.

All I need is a couple of live ones. Got Live at the Marquee though.

[Ringo]

Has anyone heard the new Nevermore album "This Godless Endeavor", it is pretty fucking good from the two or three plays I have given it. Warrel Dane sounds half decent after the shitty work on Enemies of Reality and of course it goes without saying that Jeff Loomis is brilliant.

I assume Warrel Dane is the vocalist? I bought Enemies Of Reality and the vocals did my head in, music was great though. Are the vocals significantly better this time around?

[Ringo]

How can you NOT have Six Degrees? Get that next.

All I need is a couple of live ones. Got Live at the Marquee though.

Well I have Glass Prison, The Great Debate along with several others from the album downloaded. Just haven't got around to actually buying it. I'll get that next then.. Saw Live At The Marquee in a local shop for £4.95, I'll have to get that. :yes:


Also, although I'm not a Dominici fan, 'Fortune In Lies' from When Dream And Day Unite is awesome.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Six degrees is quite soft. While Train of Thought is heavy. They're almost opposites.

As for the live discs, it depends on the setlist in which you want: New York or Budokan. So is SFAM your favourite album? Seasons of Change? Then NY. Prefer Train Of Thought? Then Budokan. But it must be said most of Budokan is from ToT & 6DOIT

[Pete Cash]

I assume Warrel Dane is the vocalist? I bought Enemies Of Reality and the vocals did my head in, music was great though. Are the vocals significantly better this time around?

Ok, you can tell it is still Dane doing the vocals, but it sounds a lot better this time round. The music is better as well, as outlaw said... the mix for Enemies of Reality was pretty terrible.

It could be one to download and see if you like it first though, cause the vocals are quite present.

Also outlaw, I haven't listened to it enough to compare to Dead Heart.... or Dreaming Neon Black, but it feels so far as good as those two albums.

[Deathcow]

Darkest Hour :yes:

[Cactus Lem]

:cool:

Going to the 24th, depending on uni timetables will be going to the 25th and 26th :fingersx:

My mate should be getting our tickets this week. He keeps saying he'll get them, but he keeps putting it off. He's pissing me off big time about it.

[Ringo]

*Has ordered Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulance.*

[Ringo]

10k.

Time to revive this thread, me thinks.. :\

[Pete Cash]

Has anyone heard the leaked new Opeth album and is it infact real.

It sounds real, but I don't really like Opeth, it is for my girlfriend who loves them and I will be looking quite the fool if it isn't.

[Ringo]

Just listen for the lyrics and search them on the net, see what comes up..

:dunno:

You should be able to nfind out from that..

[Pete Cash]

Yeah and none of the comments at a pretty cluey metal torrents is calling it a fake.

I assume it is real, good ole leaked albums.

[Pete Cash]

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1471860.html

heh

[Ringo]

:mad:

That stupid old man better not fuck up Rhapsody.

[Ringo]

Just thought I'd pop in to say I love you Immortal.

[Cactus Lem]

Ill probably get cruicified in here for mentioning such a band, but I managed to get my hands on a leaked copy of Chimaira's new album. I have to say it Pure Fucking Metal! (although half of the people in here will find some reason to say its not)

It's extremley heavy, vocals are amazing, phenomenal song structure, far more complex, clear signs of musical improvement and some of the best guitar solo's I've heard in a while. Up there with Trivium and AS I Lay Dying as album of the year if you ask me.

[Alex E]

I was in Vancouver over the weekend, so I loaded up on cds I can't find in Winnipeg...
New Nevermore - To be honest, I hadn't heard more than a few songs from them, I bought it purely on recommendations. I wouldn't describe it as my favorite type of metal, but it's worthy, with some nice crunchy riffs and even some catchiness...
New Arch Enemy - I don't think it's as good as anthems, but it's still above average. After 6 songs, I find myself wishing Angie could sing cleanly just for a change, because her growls aren't even top-notch, imo.
Plus a bunch of other stuff, Conception, Kalmah, Kamelot, etc.

I don't know what happened to Winnipeg...we used to get Into Eternity once a year, but in the next 6 months we have Stratovarius, Therion, Into Eternity, Sonata Arctica, Judas Priest, and more. wtf.

[Deathcow]

Ill probably get cruicified in here for mentioning such a band, but I managed to get my hands on a leaked copy of Chimaira's new album. I have to say it Pure Fucking Metal! (although half of the people in here will find some reason to say its not)

It's extremley heavy, vocals are amazing, phenomenal song structure, far more complex, clear signs of musical improvement and some of the best guitar solo's I've heard in a while. Up there with Trivium and AS I Lay Dying as album of the year if you ask me.

Yeah, the new Chimaira CD is awesome.

But Caliban. Man, someone get "The Opposite from Within" by Caliban. It's a fuckin' classy CD, reminiscent of old KSE.

[Pete Cash]

I was in Vancouver over the weekend, so I loaded up on cds I can't find in Winnipeg...
New Nevermore - To be honest, I hadn't heard more than a few songs from them, I bought it purely on recommendations. I wouldn't describe it as my favorite type of metal, but it's worthy, with some nice crunchy riffs and even some catchiness...


Its probably my favourite release of the year, although I haven't exactly been buying a lot lately.

[Pete Cash]

Have any of you lot heard any Dali's Dilemma or Circus Maximus, they are both progressive metal groups and aren't too bad.

Least from my first impressions.

[Deathcow]

I wasn't really impressed with the Nevermore CD...though that isn't traditionally my kind of metal. I perfer more hardcore sounding vocals. I like the guitar riffs, but that guy's voice fucken drives me up the wall.

[Deathcow]

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1471860.html

heh

Count Dooku...:shifty:

[Alex E]

Have any of you lot heard any Dali's Dilemma or Circus Maximus, they are both progressive metal groups and aren't too bad.

Least from my first impressions.

Yer, both. The CM disc got me excited, but I think the best material was the first 3 or 4 songs, and went downhill after that. I hope they don't play the first chapter when I see them, it just sounds a bit empty or something. Like not enough to justify being 19 minutes.

[Nemesis]

Just bought Necrophagia - Harvest Ritual Volume 1 and Dimmu Borgir - For All Tid. I'm listening to the latter right now.

Anyone know of any decent box sets to get? I've been thinking of getting the Samhain one.

[Bandit]

Acacia Strain - 3750

GET THAT ALBUM BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

[Nemesis]

How does it sound compared to other bands I may have heard? :shifty:

[Bandit]

Hmmmmmmm

Let me think...

Can't think of any band that sounds like them.

They're FUCKING heavy. Death metal vocals. Insane breakdowns. Really droney at times. Fucking greatness. :yes:

[Nemesis]

Hmm...

So how do they compare to Necrophagist?

Also, I just got some Dimmu Borgir songs from the Devil's Path EP. I like For All Tid, but Devil's Path is excellent.

[Bandit]

They sound nothing like Necrophagist. Not nearly as technical.

IM me on CrunkinDonuts

I'll send you the album tomorrow. (I have to rip the album, but it's in my car, so I'll do it tomorrow)

[Nemesis]

AIM?

[Bandit]

Yeah. IM me right now before I go to bed so you know it's the right SN and junk.

[Swedish Sensation]

I don't know what happened to Winnipeg...we used to get Into Eternity once a year, but in the next 6 months we have Stratovarius, Therion, Into Eternity, Sonata Arctica, Judas Priest, and more. wtf.

same with Calgary. they've had tons of shows this year already. once I moved away, they started having a good metal show every 2 weeks. I'm going back basically once or twice every 2 months to see metal shows there, because there's so many. the only thing they didn't have was Sounds of the Underground. I met people from Winnipeg who were in Saskatoon for that festival.

[Swedish Sensation]

I wasn't really impressed with the Nevermore CD...though that isn't traditionally my kind of metal. I perfer more hardcore sounding vocals. I like the guitar riffs, but that guy's voice fucken drives me up the wall.

yeah, their whole style of playing is catchy, crunchy and delicious if you only listen to 1-2 albums at a time. but if you start sitting down and listening to the whole catalogue, like I traditionally do with the bands I'm most in love with, you'll start sticking a knife in your eye and twisting it around after a couple hours.

Dead Heart in a Dead World is a great listen taken in small doses. but it'll give you a headache by listening to it anymore than maybe twice a week. Nevermore just does that... :dunno: it's annoying.

[Pete Cash]

Its my car CD at the moment and I haven't tried to run myself off the road

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I will now say that Chemical Wedding is perhaps one of the greatest (metal) albums in history.

What about Tyranny or Accident?

[Pete Cash]

As in Bruce Dickinson stuff.

Funny you should mention it because Dave Tempest was downloading his solo stuff the other day and he sent me a song, twasn't too bad.

Might check it out

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I'd say 'Book of Thel', 'Killing Floor' or 'Trumpets Of Jericho' :headbang:

[Ringo]

I wasn't really impressed with the Nevermore CD...though that isn't traditionally my kind of metal. I perfer more hardcore sounding vocals. I like the guitar riffs, but that guy's voice fucken drives me up the wall.



Ahhh, my thoughts exactly.

They're a band I really should like, but it's just those fucking vocals..

[Alex E]

I got tickets to go see Apocalyptica in Minneapolis on my way back from Atlanta from ProgPower 6...I'm just unsure how good the show will be, since they won't have any vocalists and half the stuff will be covers. From the reviews I've read, they're very energetic and it gets the crowd going, but it'll be strange seeing a metal concert consisting of three cellists and a drummer...

Anyone heard Savage Circus yet? Thomen left Blind Guardian and shacked up with this band.

[Nemesis]

I bought the new Nile today. It's ok, but In Their Darkened Shrines is still the best Nile CD I own. Maybe it'll grow on me. :dunno:

I realized that I'm sorely in need of some Emperor. I'll probably pick that up next (IX Equilibrium, probably), and maybe something else. Devil's Whorehouse (the Marduk side project) has a CD on sale at The End Records for $5.50. :headbang:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I just looked through Fozzy's new album and saw that some of the songs are actually songs which I already have of Demo's From Sick Speed (Cafu) and such. Interesting. Hmm... I already know half the songs on the album then.

[Nemesis]

I'll have to check out the new Fozzy, between now and when the new Stuck Mojo album is released. If that ever sees the light of day, since I don't keep up with the day-to-day relationship between Rich and Bonz.

*crosses fingers*

[Pete Cash]

Anyone heard Savage Circus yet? Thomen left Blind Guardian and shacked up with this band.

I haven't heard anything from them, I am looking out for stuff though, because of Blind Guardian being probably my favourite band, so I have interest.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I realised Hysteria is the perfect album besides the last two tracks.

hmm... Run Riot.

[Cactus Lem]

Just got Six Degree's of Inner Turbulence by Dream Theater. I'm digging what I've heard so far, second disc more so than the first though.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

The Glass Prison is seen as one of the greatest DT songs of all time. :yes:

[Throb]

Yeah, after TGP, the first disc can be plodding. I still like Disappear on the first cd though. But Disc 2 is just pure greatness.

[Ringo]

I still like Disappear on the first cd though.


Listening to that right now. :yes:

[Pete Cash]

Speaking as I did in my last post of the greatest ever ever ever band in the history of music Blind Guardian they have a new drummer (Frederik Ehmke) ALSO they claim the new album will be done by april

This is a a very rough schedule for the next months:

* Late August - End of November:
o Recordings
o Mixing of the first single Videoshooting
* December - January:
o Mixing
* February/March:
o Promotion
o Release of the first single
* April/May:
o Release of the album and Warm up shows
* June - August:
o Warm up shows
o South America
o Japan
o Release of the second single
* September - October:
o Europe
November:
o Japan
o Australia
* December - February:
o USA, Mexico and Canada


AHAHAHA if that is true, I will fucking explode in my pants.... I don't care which city I have to go to.

[Throb]

Listening to that right now. :yes:

Awesome. Great track.

[Hardcore Holly Fan]

Check out this band.

http://www.myspace.com/ectospazz

We played with them last week and I got to say I really liked them. Their ep is really well produced and defiantly worth a listen. Interbred Head is especially good.

[Cactus Lem]

The Glass Prison is seen as one of the greatest DT songs of all time. :yes:

I'd say it is the greatest.

[Throb]

Just a little announcement for those interested. For the next three days (Aug 19-21), Delicious Agony Progressive Rock Radio (www.deliciousagony.com) is having a Dream Theater marathon. They'll be playing nothing but Dream Theater and related stuff. So that means we'll get DT, LTE, Platypus, and more. They'll also be playing stuff by ex-member Derek Sherinian. The marathon starts at 7 PM Eastern, which is about one hour from now, and at 8:30 EST, they will be playing an interview with Jordan Rudess. I'm pumped about this, should be great.

If Matthew comes in here, just ignore him. He'll say something to the effect of "DT is stupid, and Throb overrates them and is stupid too. HAHA LOLZ omfg !! 11 1"

[Matthew]

Well, lets see. Am going to see Dillinger again soon, can't wait, they tore everything up last time they played and I just can't wait for it to happen again.

And once again, I never said DT is stupid, I even said I listened to them. Some people just never get the point, and make up shit. And have I ever even said LOL omg? No, so, make a valid point, or don't flame for no reason. Oh well, it is funny anyway, he said I didn't get a reaction and he is posting about me in a thread I wasn't even in...... :rofl::lol::rofl: Poor kids.

Been listening to a lot of Pantera lately, as me and my friends were just sitting around and looking for something random to play. I miss Pantera, but am glad I got to see Dimebag the day before and still have all my Pantera shit. yeehaw.

[Throb]

Oh my god, you don't understand any concepts at all. Sarcasm, Matthew.

Anyway, I was warning people because I knew you'd have a comment.

30 minutes away.... :hyper:

[Matthew]

No, see, there was no hint as to sarcasm, and if I never came in here and mentioned it, you wouldn't have labelled it as such. Just proves that I did get to you.

[Throb]

It proves that you desperately want to believe you got to me. Sorry to disappoint you.

[Matthew]

Well, for you to go into another thread which I never posted in to try and take a shot at me, yea, it's proof positive.

[darkhorse]

I fucking love the new Chimaira. I've had a leaked copy of the new album for over a month and it still doesn't stray from my cd player for too long.

[Throb]

I quite like the new Chimaira. I'm not fond of the screaming vocals, but the music more than makes up for it for me.

[Deathcow]

I dig it. Raging Speedhorn ain't so bad either.

[Swedish Sensation]

Chimaira were at Sounds of the Underground - I met all of them and got their autographs while some hardcore band not worth a squirt of piss was playing, I think either Madball or Terror. - they were one of the better bands there, but mostly because there were 9 shitty bands there out of 18. I still wasn't very impressed with them, but that might be just because I'd hardly listened to them before the concert and their music hit me as a wall of sound. does anyone have a Chimaira album to recommend for me to start off with?

[Pete Cash]

Anyways for those who even care anymore after about 4 mediocre at best albums in a row (tribe was decent I suppose) Queensryche and their on again and off again attempt to catch into some success based off their only really good album has actually got "bootlegs" of a couple of songs from their up coming release mindcrime 2.

So far.... its decent, the quality of the recording is pretty shit as you would expect, its quite catchy though..... the crowd is digging them

http://www.queensryche.com/releases/operation-mindcrime-2/ and go to paraphernalia.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Now I'm wondering which metal song has the most sexual puns.

I'll start it off with Spinal Tap's Big Bottom which contains 9.

Any songs with more that anyone can recall?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Also Crabby/NiMMERS/Crips watch Rock School on Wednesday, it's hilarious. Gene Simmons is just a champ and the kids are such dorks who know nothing about Rock.

[Deathcow]

Chimaira were at Sounds of the Underground - I met all of them and got their autographs while some hardcore band not worth a squirt of piss was playing, I think either Madball or Terror. - they were one of the better bands there, but mostly because there were 9 shitty bands there out of 18. I still wasn't very impressed with them, but that might be just because I'd hardly listened to them before the concert and their music hit me as a wall of sound. does anyone have a Chimaira album to recommend for me to start off with?
I like their new one best, myself.

[Nemesis]

I'm waiting on Emperor - IX Equilibrium, Immortal - At the Heart of Winter, and Devil's Whorehouse - Revelation Unorthodox to get here. It seems The End Records uses a parcel service to deliver their stuff now. Good thing I haven't found a job since I moved, so I can be here to sign for it. :happysad:

[Nemesis]

I just got the chance to listen to most of the music I got in the mail. Awesome purchases.

God damn, the singer for Devil's Whorehouse can mimic Glenn Danzig really well. I don't know how I feel about him essentially stealing his vocals, but it's pretty impressive, just like a cover band that forces a second glance. Which I guess is pretty much the case.

The Immortal CD is awesome, as usual. I almost wish they'd release a song I didn't like. Perfect bastards. They're not human. :squint:

Emperor is pretty good, being the first CD of theirs I own. Boring in parts, but the really good songs make up for it (especially Curse You, All Men. Great song.)

I really need to get some older Anthrax next. Been listening to it every time I get on the computer, but I need the discs, dammit! :shifty:

[Ringo]

I'm still not sure about Anthrax really. I mean, I like them, but they just never seem to be able to cross from being just a band I enjoy to one of my very favourites.

Haha, I agree in the third point. 'Curse You, All Men' is definitely one of my favourite Emperor tracks. :yes:

[Nemesis]

I've just started to appreciate classic Anthrax. I've always liked their John Bush-era stuff, but I hated their 80's stuff in high school. :dunno:

But yeah, I'm really enjoying this Emperor CD. I've heard a song or two from In the Nightside Eclipse, but didn't think much of it. Just bad songs, maybe? I don't know.

[Bandit]

Definitely. "In the Nightside Eclipse" is my favorite Emperor album, and I own that, "Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk" (in a very close second), "IX Equillibrium", and their newest, "Prometheus - The Discipline of Fire and Demise". Emperor is one of my top 5 black metal bands though, so I like all four of their full length albums. :yes:

[Nemesis]

I'll have to give Eclipse another listen. :beer:

[Bandit]

Most definitely... also listen to Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk... that's generally people's favorite from Emperor.

[Nemesis]

Awesome...I'm gonna fire Shareaza up tomorrow.

Hey, did that CD from a few weeks ago ever get sent? I can't find it anywhere.

[Bandit]

Which CD?

[Bandit]

Oh. Over AIM... Acacia Strain... go online right now.

[Crabby]

Geez, haven't been here in ages. What's everyone been spinning of late? I've been loving the latest Nevermore, 8 Foot Sativa, Green Carnation, Nile, Vanishing Point and a few others.

Been a rush of new releases of late- the new Arch Enemy is good but lacks some direction,the new Fear Factory is largely shit and Chimaira's new one is a slight improvement on their last release.

And I never posted my Ozzfest report (from the Boston show last month), so enjoy-

Thanks to a mix up with the trains, we arrived just in time to see Arch Enemy.Very,very powerful live band and tight as hell, pity their set was over so quickly.Silent Wars,We Will Rise,Dead Eyes and Ravenous were all great.Plenty of air guitar action unsurprisingly.

I watched some of Trivium- pretty monotonous Metalcore for mine and weren't very exciting.Black Dahlia Murder fucking ruled though- their mix for the first track was shite but it improved, pity they only had time for half a dozen tracks.Energetic as hell, and the vocalist veers between the Death growls and Hardcore shouts very effectively.The pit was great for em' as well.

The Haunted were up next, and much like AE they ruled, but it was over far too quickly.The opened with Dark Intentions/Bury Your Dead, and played some stuff from rEVOLVEr, including 99,No Compromise,All Against All,etc. Good energy but their set (25 minutes) was over before they could get into full swing.

After The Haunted we had a look at the booths,etc, and went to the singing tent and met Black Dahlia Murder and The Haunted in the space of about ten minutes, and got Miasma and rEVOLVEr signed.BDM guys were great, said they're planning to head Down Under, most likely in December after their proposed Japanese visit.The Haunted were cool as well and said they were supposed to be here about four months ago but it didn't work out, and while they're keen for a return visit nothing is set yet anyway.

The signing tent was positioned close to the second stage, so I had a look at A Dozen Furies, who were average but seemed excited to be there.Bury Your Dead are huge here but I don't see the huge deal- there was little to seperate em' from the other Metalcore bands on the bill.My cousin met ADF and was stoked 'cause he adores em' for some reason.

Mastodon- All I can say is I want to see these guys play a headlining show ASAP.They were on for 35-40 minutes but it went by in a flash.Tight, enthuastic and damn heavy.Played mostly stuff from Leviathan (Megaladon,etc) and closed with the mighty Blood And Thunder.

As I Lay Dying REALLY had the crowd going- huge circle pits, these guys look like they're going to explode with their new record.Opened with Meaning In Tragedy, played a few ones from the new album as well as 94 Hours, Elegy and Forever.

KSE had one of the most brutal pits of the day. Howard Jones was a lot more energetic then when I saw em' last year and Adam D did his usual schtick.Opened with A Bid Farewell and played loads of stuff from TEOH (but surprisingly no When Darkness Falls), as well as My Last Serenade (huge sing-a-long),Numbered Days and Fixation.

Rob Zombie was entertaining if only for the two White Zombie covers they played (More Human Than Human and Supercharger Heaven).Entertaining enough, but Rob's voice was very, very ordinary.Set included Dragula and Living Dead Girl anyway.

We left Zombie during the last song and grabbed some merch.I picked up a 'Fest tour T-Shirt,a Maiden tour one, as well as The Haunted, Mastodon and The Black Dahlia Murder ones.Merch was suprisingly reasonable, unlike the food prices, which were completely ridiculous.

We then headed over to the main stage in time to see In Flames.They didn't fuck around too much seeing as they only had 25 minutes, as Anders pointed out.Setlist included Cloud Connected,Trigger,The Quiet Place,Pinball Map,Touch Of Red and My Sweet Shadow.

BLS were up next and they fucking ruled.Opened with loads of feedback before crunching in to Stoned And Drunk.Zakk's stage banter was entertaining, but not as entertaining as when he handed his guitar to the audience to hold while he leaped into the front row to play a solo during Destruction Overdrive, when some guy grabbed it and tried to run off with it. Seeing as he was surrounded by seats and loads of people (the pit area is behind all the seating on the main stage) he didn't get too far) It was hilarious, though. It didn't stop Zakk successfully doing it a few songs later, though- excellent audience interaction.Setlist also included Suicide Messiah,Fire It Up and a few others before closing with an excellent rendition of Stillborn.

Shadows Fall surprisingly worked really well on the main stage, aided by the fact that they're hometown boys.Whereas IF looked a little lost on the main stage, SF engaged the crowd effectively and received a very strong reaction with their excellent stage presence.Brian Fair's dreads are always a strangely impressive sight and his stage banter was solid without being pandering.They played mostly new stuff (but no The Power Of I And I), as well as Thoughts Without Words and Destroyer Of Senses.

Mudvayne were better than I expected, particularly due to my memories of their average BDO performance.They played the intro to Fucking Determined behind a curtain, whipping the crowd up. Hour-long set included Death Blooms,Nothing To Gein and a few others, before closing with Happy?, Not Falling and Dig. They definitely got a massive reception, despite the vocalist's cringe-worthy stage banter (fuck was used literally every second word for absolutely no reason).Also, I thought they'd ditched the makeup,etc? The bass player had good presence despite his stupid stage get-up anyway.

Even though Mudvayne were better than expected, Iron Maiden immediately proved that they were leagues ahead of the younger bands that preceded their set.They opened with Ides Of March as the intro, before revealing one of their 80's stage sets, with platforms on each side for Bruce, a huge drum riser and a video screen at the back. There was TNOTB-style artwork all over the set and it looked great. Thankfully Bruce spent the majority of the set at the front of the stage, unlike the set up of recent tours.

So they wasted little time in ripping into Wrathchild- good opener but the reception for The Trooper after it was fantastic.HUGE sing-a-long, with Bruce even dressing up in a military uniform and waving a British flag at the back of the stage.While I would rathered have heard something like Where Eagles Dare, Revelations worked well, with Bruce proving himself to be a master performer and a genius at working the crowd. It was followed with Phantom Of The Opera, which was brilliant, and Bruce's intro story was hilarious. He and the rest of the band are ridiculously energetic- they put on the perfect show in all aspects.

The next three songs in order? Run To The Hills, The Number Of The Beast and Hallowed Be Thy Name.Incredible.The crowd went ballistic, except my cousin who demonstrated that he has little taste by going to get something to eat during TNOTB (during which the large screen blazed 666 during every chorus).Bah.Awesome crowd interaction and reception, even the Mduvayne kiddies behind me were having a blast.Infectious.SCREAM FOR ME BOSTON!

This was followed by a great rant from Bruce about bands milking their legacies by touring constantly without any new releases (didn't mention any names, but use your imagination), after which he said they would have a new album out next year. This eventually led to a killer version of Iron Maiden and an apperarance from Eddie, before leaving the stage. The encore was Running Free (great fun and a massive sing-a-long) and Sanctuary, and I'm left with probably the best hour of live music I've ever witnessed.Stunned.

To say that wasn't easy to get over is an understatement.But the chance to see Black Sabbath was a once-in-a-lifetime thing. After Ozzy baited the crowd from behind a huge curtain for about ten minutes, they launched into N.I.B- my favourite Sabbath song as the opener.

Ozzy is hilarious to watch- every few songs he'd throw a bucket of water on himself (or even in to the crowd), running around like a kid, jumping up and down, clapping his hands, mooning the crowd. It must be said that their light show was awesome- perfectly suited for tracks like Fairies Wear Boots, Black Sabbath, Into The Void and War Pigs- which sounded perfect. Ozzy's voice is average these days, but fuck me can Iommi still play! The man is a god.

Setlist also included Paranoid (obviously), After Forever, Children Of The Grave and a few others in a fantastic 90-minute set. Ozzy may go a little overboard with the "I LOVE YOU!" routine, but they were amazing.Simple as that.

[Crabby]

Damn double-post.

*Edit* Dave- you going to see Fozzy next week? I'm heading to the Sydney show with Dungeon in support, so it should be a good night. Loads of gigs coming up in the next few months- Children Of Bodom, Fantomas, Nile, Motley/Motorhead and more, plus a heap of local gigs as well.

I picked up loads of albums in the US as well, including the Queensryche box set (the artwork and packaging are shit but the music obviously rules), the Century Media 10th Anniversary set, as well as albums by the likes of Dark Tranquillity, Green Carnation, Motley Crue and other stuff pretty cheaply.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Nah I'm not.

Did you go to boston? You suck. :( :mad:

[Nemesis]

Geez, haven't been here in ages. What's everyone been spinning of late? I've been loving the latest Nevermore, 8 Foot Sativa, Green Carnation, Nile, Vanishing Point and a few others.

I have the new Nile. Not bad, but not anything over what they've done already. It would be a landmark album for any other death metal band, but Nile have spoiled us.

Actually, I thought Zakk Wylde thought he was in a VFW convention when I saw him live. Talking about dropping bombs on anyone who "got in our way," he sounded like he would sign up for military action as soon as he left the set. Ah, entertainers. Phil Anselmo sounded like his annoying little brother.

[Crabby]

You suck for not coming to Fozzy.

[Nemesis]

If they played anywhere close to me, hell yeah.

But alas...:ashamed:

I'm just glad I live in a much bigger city now. :headbang: Not too far to go for a good show.

[Nemesis]

Also:

Dark Funeral - Thy Legions Come

:headbang: x 1,876,422 x 58008

[Crabby]

Haha nah it was a shot at Dave actually.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

No it wasn't. It was a shot at Nemesis, you're so cruel Crabby.

[Bandit]

Nemesis, you listen to Acacia Strain yet?

[House of Pancakes]

Meshuggah in Hartford on October 10th. Everyone should see them. This is the only tour that will support Catch-33.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Been diggin' Porcupine Tree's Deadwing, carries a few shorted radio friendly tracks and the nice Åkerfeldt friendly Arriving Somewhere But Not Here.

Had the video for Strip The Soul for awhile now but never bothered watching it. Brother told me he wanted me to get the cd for him (because of Åkerfeldt's involvement due him being an Opeth fanboy: [nb: I do inactively dislike Opeth]) so I torrented it, knowing I'll prolly get a copy off him soon anyway. I guess also because Wilson sings on the OSI album.

[Hells Bells]

I bought Trivium's Ascendancy, The Black Dahlia Murder's Miasma, Bury Your Dead's You Had Me At Hello, Norma Jean's O God, The Aftermath, and Norma Jean's Bless The Martyr and Kiss the Child today. Haven't listened to them yet. Any thoughts on them? I'll probably be able to listen to them tomorrow.

[Ringo]

My friend's son gets taught Guitar by the bloke from Porcupine Tree. :yes:

[SerialHunter]

I bought Trivium's Ascendancy, The Black Dahlia Murder's Miasma, Bury Your Dead's You Had Me At Hello, Norma Jean's O God, The Aftermath, and Norma Jean's Bless The Martyr and Kiss the Child today. Haven't listened to them yet. Any thoughts on them? I'll probably be able to listen to them tomorrow.
"Ascendancy" is quality :yes:

[Deathcow]

:yes: Right-o.

[Bandit]

I bought Trivium's Ascendancy, The Black Dahlia Murder's Miasma, Bury Your Dead's You Had Me At Hello, Norma Jean's O God, The Aftermath, and Norma Jean's Bless The Martyr and Kiss the Child today. Haven't listened to them yet. Any thoughts on them? I'll probably be able to listen to them tomorrow.
Trivium album is great. New Black dahlia is also good, but I prefer Unhallowed to it A LOT. Bury Your Dead, I think "Cover Your Tracks" is A LOT better than "You Had Me at Hello" too. As for Norma Jean, only one I've heard is "O God, The Aftermath" and I like it a lot. So kudos. :yes:

[Deathcow]

I really never got into Bury Your Dead...I can't tell one track from another. :o

[Bandit]

To be fair, they're more of a live band... :yes:

Brutal pits and such.

[Hells Bells]

Some of the songs on You Had Me At Hello are the same as ones on Cover Your Tracks, just redone.

[Pete Cash]

Tempest has downloaded the new EdGuy and he will send it to me, I don't really love the group like.

ALSO..... I have finally got the new Savage Circus album, but got I mean downloaded.... but if its anything like Blind Guardians old stuff I will buy it. I have pretty high expectations if Thomen Stauch left blind guardian to play with these guys.

By the way, the new Edguy cover is so camp it is beyond belief

[Tempest]

Ahaha, it is camp as tits, yeah

I don't know when it's out here, but i'll definately be buying it: Good stuff :yes:

[Pete Cash]

I like this Savage Circus stuff from my listens thus far.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Found the new Edguy EP (or a promo version at least which will do for the moment). Buy it when it's released. Probably buy the DVD as well.

Different yet same. Slight variation on the Edguy style but still very much in their range.
Judas sounds so much like a mix between Babylon & Glory of Rome (Avantasia). The solos have moved back 3 albums back to Theater Of Salvation, and production is of a Mandrake stage. I'll listen to it properly tomorrow.

[Pete Cash]

Tempest gave me a full run down on EXACTLY what each track sounded like, he did mention one was very anvantasia so it would be likely that one

[Tempest]

Yeah, that's the one I was talking about. It's definately my favourite off the CD :yes:

[Hells Bells]

I just made a Rock/Metal playlist on Itunes. Do you think I should add System of A Down and AC/DC and Megadeth and Metallica to it or just leave it with Burn The Priest, Bury Your Dead, Trivium, Slayer, Black Dahlia Murder, Six Feet Under, etc. I feel SOAD AC/DC, Megadeth, and Metallica are a different kind of metal. I dunno.

[Bandit]

I'd add Megadeth... and Metallica if it's one of their first four.

[Hells Bells]

Metallica is And Justice For All, Metallica, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, that song from the MI2 soundtrack, and one song from St. Anger

[Alex E]

I'm liking the new Edguy...a little guitar solo in Superheroes would've been nice, but meh. It's good and new, but based on this, Hellfire Club might have more lasting appeal. I didn't know Tempest was into them...

the new Children of Bodom is decent. Again, not as good as their previous effort, but still better than most bands. Highlights are living dead beat and if you want peace...prepare for war, i'd say.

Therion was supposed to play here tonight, and the venue told us at doortime it was cancelled, the fuckers. At least I'm still seeing them in the US, so they shouldn't have border problems then.

[Pete Cash]

Megawozniak you heard Savage Circus yet.

They sound quite like Blind Guardian, down to the vocalist sounding much like Hansi Kursch

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I'm liking the new Edguy...a little guitar solo in Superheroes would've been nice, but meh. It's good and new, but based on this, Hellfire Club might have more lasting appeal.

I'm hoping it's like the King Of Fools EP, which had a few offcuts from Hellfire, I don't mind the title track or Spooks. Judas is back to their roots but it's kinda lost and doesn't really hit the mark. And ballads, blah. Unless it's a rock ballad.

Hope it's more like the first two. Then again we'll see. I still see Mandrake having more lasting appeal than hellfire, but then again this is even more poppy than Hellfire.

[Tempest]

Megawozniak you heard Savage Circus yet.

They sound quite like Blind Guardian, down to the vocalist sounding much like Hansi Kursch


I find myself thinking i'm listening to Hansi quite a lot with them, actually. But that's not really a bad thing from where I sit...

[Tempest]

Megawozniak you heard Savage Circus yet.

They sound quite like Blind Guardian, down to the vocalist sounding much like Hansi Kursch


I find myself thinking i'm listening to Hansi and Blind Guardian more often than not with them, actually.

But that's not really a bad thing from where I sit...

[Nemesis]

Nemesis, you listen to Acacia Strain yet?

Some of it. Sounds pretty decent so far, especially the last song. :yes:

I'll let you know when I get through the whole thing.

I was listening to the new Ministry on the way to work. One of the Dubya soundbytes cracks me up. When he's saying, "we're fighting evil," he sounds like a 6-year-old.

[Pete Cash]

I just got from Tempest over MSN Russel Allens (from symphony x) album, "Russell Allen's Atomic Soul".

It is quite interesting, like a standard hard rock or traditional metal album kinda.... not like symphony x at all. I like it though.

[PMBR]

The Manntis album is definately the future of where metal is headed. Honestly, I prefer their style that of Iced Earth or Cryptopsy or Mastodon.

I just recently picked up

Burn The Priest - Burn The Priest

and

Byzantine - And They Shall Take Up Serpents.

for those of you who havent seen Byzantine live, you are missing out on something incredible. the story of how they got signed is one of my personal favorites aswell

[Tempest]

I just got from Tempest over MSN Russel Allens (from symphony x) album, "Russell Allen's Atomic Soul".

It is quite interesting, like a standard hard rock or traditional metal album kinda.... not like symphony x at all. I like it though.


:yes: T'is a bloody catchy album

[Pete Cash]

The Manntis album is definately the future of where metal is headed. Honestly, I prefer their style that of Iced Earth or Cryptopsy or Mastodon.



Well I tried every combination of what you posted in metal-archives and came up with nothing, so I guess I will have to remained puzzled at the future of metal. Of course you listed three fairly well known groups as to what they are better than.

I personally think that metal is going a bit more progressive at the moment, after we went through that period where there was a new death metal album released every 1.2 seconds and we also have a glut of power with thrash being well dead. Anyways to cut a long story short I think progressive, with extreme elements is what will be the new black so to speak, the sooner we get rid of all these metalcore groups the better.

The new Opeth for example is quite progressive (they have always been progressive I know, but it sounds more so), I don't like it, but I don't really like Opeth.

Of course what do you mean by the future of metal and do you mean in the underground or the mainstream (I hate those terms but I shall use them for lack of a better one)

[Nemesis]

I personally think that metal is going a bit more progressive at the moment, after we went through that period where there was a new death metal album released every 1.2 seconds

If I read this about a month ago, I probably would have disagreed with you, but that was before I bought the new Nile, and it seems like their best days are gone. I think they hit their ceiling with In Their Darkened Shrines, an album they'll probably never top.

But, I guess what I mean to say is that when one of the most visible technical death metal bands starts to make CDs that don't improve or distinguish much from their previous albums, it's not a good thing.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

My gf bought me the Edguy DVD. SLowly getting through it.

The video for Superheroes is class, The Edguys go rabbit hunting.

When I say rabbit hunting I mean Bunny hunting and when I say bunny hunting I mean they're collecting playboy bunnies for their video clip.

Just seeing all the guys decked out in army fatigues hunting women wearing as little as possible and lil bunny ears is just class.

[Charlotte]

I'm yet to get hold of the new Edguy tracks... I've rediscovered the genius madness of Theater of Salvation & Vain Glory Opera recently which has kind of put Hellfire Club in it's place as a bit of a disappointment.

That video sounds class. I saw them live last December and thought that they had a strong sense of humour about them that gets a little lost sometimes so nice to see it in full flow!

[Pete Cash]

I've only got them with the watermarks still on them, so I shall have to buy the proper EP when I can find it.

It shall be after I buy the Savage Circus and Russell Allen albums first, whilst Russell Allen isn't really "metal" its fucking groovy.

[Tempest]

It's on IsoHunt without the watermarks until it's released there :p

Allen's is what I want next

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Gift for Burnz

Edguy - Superheroes Video (http://www.rasier.com/pat/edguy_superheroes.rm) (17.8MB)

:yes:


Proper Superheroes EP has been on Torrentspy.com since the day it was properly released.

[Pete Cash]

Yes, but I don't really love edguy, I will buy the album but there are more important records for me to grab

[Crabby]

Such as Nevermore's latest, if you don't own it already. Death On The Road is pretty good as well.

Great news about the Aussie Arch Enemy tour, they ruled at Ozzfest.

[Tempest]

Yes, but I don't really love edguy, I will buy the album but there are more important records for me to grab


My Name Is Petemo - THAT'S EMO says:
jimmy, do you have Edguys new album
Dave - WHO IS NOT EMO says:
Yeah mate, I got it yesterday
My Name Is Petemo - THAT'S EMO says:
Well GIVE IT TO ME THEN else I might have to wallow away in a pit of endless torment and misery

You love them and I hate you :heart:

Uh, but yeah: After listening to Russell Allens album pretty much non stop, i've done little but listen to Symphony X today. I'm sure Ass Crippler linked me to some details, but I was too busy poking needles into his voodoo doll. Is the new album scheduled any time soon?

[Alex E]

The Allen album was good - my favorite was seasons of insanity, track 5 or 6.

Just got back from a 4 day trip, seeing Therion, Apocalyptica, Angra, Stratovarius, Orphaned Land, Conception, etc. Therion kicks ass live, and if you get the chance, go. Definately in my top 3 shows of all time. I also picked up Savage Circus, I'm liking that. This weekend is Queensryche, looking forward to it.

[RobHitmanSize]

Ah, today at the bus stop this labourer sat down next to me wearing an Iron Maiden T Shirt (Wicker Man). I asked him what his favorite song was and we talked for like 20 minutes. Not really relevant or important but it was a fairly cool moment

[Pete Cash]

My Name Is Petemo - THAT'S EMO says:
jimmy, do you have Edguys new album
Dave - WHO IS NOT EMO says:
Yeah mate, I got it yesterday
My Name Is Petemo - THAT'S EMO says:
Well GIVE IT TO ME THEN else I might have to wallow away in a pit of endless torment and misery

You love them and I hate you :heart:

Uh, but yeah: After listening to Russell Allens album pretty much non stop, i've done little but listen to Symphony X today. I'm sure Ass Crippler linked me to some details, but I was too busy poking needles into his voodoo doll. Is the new album scheduled any time soon?


Are you high on crack, I cannot recall that MSN conversation.

about the album, its being planned or something.... that is the best I know of it.

Are you too lazy to go to their official website or something.

[Kev]

Guys, do me a top 10 Edguy songs thingy? I'll give you three Scooby Snacks...

Either in this thread or in the other LR one..

http://forums.rajah.com/showthread.php?t=48800&page=8

Please? :heart:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Shouldn't be too hard

Lavatory Love Machine
Superheroes
Navigator
Under The Moon
Golden Dawn
Fallen Angels
Save Us Now
Vain Glory Opera
Babylon
Out Of Control

That's a good enough mix.

[Tempest]

Because I know Super Kev likes Forever: Get Blessing In Disguise, Roses To No-one and Wash Away The Poison too :yes:

I can see Judas At The Opera becoming one of my favourite Edguy songs

[Alex E]

I like JudasATO because the middle part is so out there, with the faint "bop bop bop"s, I love Edguy. I just finished watching the Superheroes DVD, it wasn't as good as I had hoped, but damn, I really need to see a concert in South America, the crowd is amazing.

Saw Queensryche last night, it was alright when they started on Op:Mindcrime, but the rest fell flat, and it wasn't worth $50. God, I still have like 3 concerts in the next few days. That makes something like 20 in 10 days.

[Kunt 4 Life]

Whats the new Children of Bodom album like?

[Alex E]

A step down from HCD. That's not so bad, since Children of Bodom have been really quality over the 4 cds, but it was sort of disappointing at first. I believe there's one song with no solo, as well, that made me go :wtf: when it ended.

However, there are a few songs on there that I think rank with their best:
-We're not gonna fall
-Bastards of bodom
-Trashed, lost and strungout
-Living dead beat
The other 5 songs aren't entirely memorable, and the only reason I liked living dead beat is because of the great keyboards.

edit: damn, I'm all concerted out. So over 2 weeks, it's been Stratovarius twice, Apocalyptica, Angra, Symphorce, Orphaned Land twice, Manticora, Circus Maximus, Therion, Conception, Pink Cream 69, Dreamscape, Stride, Into Eternity, and Dreamquest, DC Cooper, Queensryche, and Strung Out.

[Bandit]

I loved "If you want peace... Prepare for War, as well.

[Alex E]

I loved "If you want peace... Prepare for War, as well.

Yeah...the 5 seconds with "If you want peace, prepare for war...FUCK! *melodic keyboard section*" pretty much embodies Bodom.

And what do you guys think of the Evil Darkness tour scheduled for next summer with 3 bands announced thus far, Lullacry, Leave's Eyes and Elis, with "10 minutes changeovers" and in MADISON SQUARE GARDEN. wtf. I'm thinking it's a joke at this point, or the promoter is Bill Gates. The only way this could work is if they got Nightwish, Maiden, etc for headlining. Even then...

[Nemesis]

I bought the Trashed, Lost, and Strungout EP, and I was hoping that the full-length album had better tracks than the title song. It's not bad, but you tend to have high expectations for CoB. :\

I just ordered Dimmu Borgir's Stormblast CD, FINALLY. I've heard it's supposed to be their best one, and I don't know why I've waited until now to get it (I have almost all of their albums).

It was either that or another Dark Funeral album, whichever one has Thy Legions Come on it. In the Sign, maybe? Eh, who cares.

[Crabby]

I caught COB the other night, they put on a good show. Surprisingly they only played two new songs actually.

I've ahd the new Spiritual Beggars for ages, but it fucking rules.The new God Forbid is also pretty cool. Speaking of Beggars and Arch Enemy, if you want to read my interview with Sharlee D'Angelo, enjoy-

http://www.blastwave.org.uk/mr/features/show_feature.asp?ID=19

[Cactus Lem]

Anyone heard the Russell/Lande project the Battle?

[Tempest]

Got it finally.

Have had it on pretty much ever since. I think I prefer Allens solo album as far as his other projects go, but it's good :yes:

But like I said to you, Allen could sing nursery rhymes and i'd love it...

[Alex E]

Got it finally.

Have had it on pretty much ever since. I think I prefer Allens solo album as far as his other projects go, but it's good :yes:

But like I said to you, Allen could sing nursery rhymes and i'd love it...



The Battle was a bit too vanilla for my taste. I've listened to it all, more than once, but it's totally formulaic. If you like straight ahead songs with mostly catchy choruses, go for it. Come to think of it, I do, but I just can't get into it as much. I also liked Allen's solo stuff, there were some great tracks on it.

And it's not really a battle at all, it's not even much of a contrast between them, it's more like "Allen/Lande - Working Together". :dunno:

Plus, Allen is a much nicer guy to meet than Lande.

[N.E.R.F.]

Fucking hell Dream Theater - Live at Budokan is a fantastic DVD.

The showing-off bit in Beyond This Life almost gave me an orgasm. :drool:

[fear is the mindkiller]

Yea it's pretty freakin' awesome, only wish they could have played some more stuff from I&W and Awake

Now all I need is for Symphony X to come out with a DVD. :)

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Fucking hell Dream Theater - Live at Budokan is a fantastic DVD.

The showing-off bit in Beyond This Life almost gave me an orgasm. :drool:

If only KevMo was there.

:stickpoke:

[N.E.R.F.]

Don't make me hurt you HapDav

[darkhorse]

I finally got around to checking out Unearth. Not too different from all the other metalcore out there imo but the guitars are pretty enjoyable.

[Maxcav]

I just Pick up Dark Ages, The new Soulfly album. I have all four of their other Albums, and in my opinion this is their second best or maybe even tied for first with their Debut, Self titled Album. What's good about dark Ages is that Max Blends some of the old Sepultura sound into the songs which is pretty cool.

I also Think that OTEP should get a lot more respect. Even though House of Secrets only had like six actual songs on it, you still have Jihad and Sevas Tra which were both amazing albums. There is also talk of a new Album coming out sometime soon that will just be all music, not any poetry, like on House of Secrets. I am not saying that her poetry ruins the Albums, because I give OTEP a lot of credit when it comes to that. Also, she is the hottest woman in metal today, and also has the best voice. A lot of people may noe agree with me, but I really like the rap-metal style.

[SerialHunter]

I also Think that OTEP should get a lot more respect. Even though House of Secrets only had like six actual songs on it, you still have Jihad and Sevas Tra which were both amazing albums. There is also talk of a new Album coming out sometime soon that will just be all music, not any poetry, like on House of Secrets. I am not saying that her poetry ruins the Albums, because I give OTEP a lot of credit when it comes to that. Also, she is the hottest woman in metal today, and also has the best voice. A lot of people may noe agree with me, but I really like the rap-metal style.
Sevas Tra it's an awesome album, but nobody likes OTEP around here

[Tempest]

Yea it's pretty freakin' awesome, only wish they could have played some more stuff from I&W and Awake

Now all I need is for Symphony X to come out with a DVD. :)


I read an Allen interview the other day that said they're planning to release one around the time or just after the new album

Just in case you didn't know, of course :)

[Cactus Lem]

I saw a rumour on Blabbermouth that Dream Theater are going to play the whole Scenes From A Memory album as their xecond set at the 25th October Hammersmith show. And I'm going to be there.

[N.E.R.F.]

I can't make it to the 25th :cry:

[Alex E]

I read an Allen interview the other day that said they're planning to release one around the time or just after the new album

Just in case you didn't know, of course :)

It's actually been planned since around Sept. 03...I think the issue was getting a full-length set where they're not just opening for somebody...

[Hells Bells]

Any news on the new Slayer or AC/DC albums?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

All I know is that both are supposed 2006 releases and both bands are working on the albums now. Supposedly AC/DC! have written all the songs now and are recording in London.

[Hells Bells]

I hope they both tour in my area next year. I've already seen Slayer, but they were apart of Ozzfest that time. It would be great to see an extended set, and AC/DC, I'd do anything to see them.

[SerialHunter]

Any news on the new Slayer or AC/DC albums?
they'll rule

[Hells Bells]

they'll rule

Yes they will, yes they will. :yes: I hope the AC/DC one is a double album. That would rule.

[Alex E]

Tarja was just kicked out of Nightwish.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

:eek:

You're kidding, that's huge news!

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=43248


NIGHTWISH mainman Tuomas Holopainen (keyboards) has issued the following "open letter" to the group's singer, Tarja Turunen:

"Dear Tarja,

"It's time to choose whether the story of NIGHTWISH ends here or whether it will still continue an undetermined period of time. We've been working with this creation for 9 years and we are not ready to give up yet. NIGHTWISH is a way of life, something to live for, and we're certain we can't let it go.

"Equally certain is the fact that we cannot go on with you and Marcelo any longer. During the last year something sad happened, which I've been going over in my head every single day, morning and night. Your attitude and behavior don't go with NIGHTWISH anymore. There are characteristics I would never have believed to see in my old dear friend. People who don't talk with each other for a year do not belong in the same band.

"We are involved in an industry where the business side of things is a necessary evil and something to worry about all the time. We are also a band which has always done music from the heart, because of friendship and the music itself. The mental satisfaction should always be more important than money! Nightwish is a band, it's an emotion.

"To you, unfortunately, business, money, and things that have nothing to do with those emotions have become much more important. You feel that you have sacrificed yourself and your musical career for NIGHTWISH, rather than thinking what it has given to you. This attitude was clearly shown to me in the two things you said to me in an airplane in Toronto: 'I don't need NIGHTWISH anymore,' and 'Remember, Tuomas, that I could leave this band at any time, giving you only one day's warning in advance.'

"I can't simply write any more songs for you to sing.

"You have said yourself that you are merely a 'guest musician' in NIGHTWISH. Now that visit ends and we will continue NIGHTWISH with a new female vocalist. We're sure this is an equally big relief to you as it is for us. We have all been feeling bad long enough.

"You told us that no matter what, the next NIGHTWISH album will be your last one. However, the rest of us want to continue as long as the fire burns. So there's no sense in doing that next album with you, either.
"The four of us have been going over this situation countless times and we have realized that this is the thing we want to do in life. It's all we can do. In December 2004, in Germany, you said that you will never tour again for more than two weeks at a time. You also said that we can forget about U.S. and Australia because the fees and the sizes of venues are too small.

"In interviews I've mentioned that if Tarja leaves, that would be the end of the band. I understand that people will think this way. NIGHTWISH is, however, a scenery of my soul and I'm not ready to let go because of one person. A person who wants to focus her creativity to somewhere else, a person whose values don't match mine.

"We were never bothered by the fact that you didn't participate in writing/arranging songs, you never in 9 years came to rehearse the songs with us before going to the studio. Not the fact that while on tour you always wanted to fly, separately from us with your husband. Not the fact that you are an undisputable front image of the band. We accepted and felt OK about everything except greed, underestimating the fans, and breaking promises. It was agreed by the five of us that NIGHTWISH would be the priority in everything that we do during 2004-2005. Still so many things were more important to you. The ultimate example being the already sold-out show in Oslo, which you wanted to cancel because you needed to rehearse for your solo concerts, meet frieds and go to the movies. Those were the words Marcelo used in an e-mail explaining the cancellation. This being just one example of so many. I couldn't think of a worse way of being selfish and dismissing our fans.

"NIGHTWISH is a way of life and a job with many obligations. To each other and to the fans. With you we can't take care of those duties anymore.

"Deep within we don't know which one of you drove us to this point. Somehow Marcelo has changed you from the lovely girl you were into a diva, who doesn't think or act the way she used to. You are too sure of your irreplaceableness and status.

"It's obvious that you blame your stress and misery on us four. And you think we don't respect or listen to you. Believe us; We have always had the uppermost respect towards you as a wonderful vocalist and as a friend. And very often during the past couple of years the plans were made according to your decisions only. You were always the only one who wanted more money from the shows.

"This 'compensation and more money from everything' attitude is the fact that we are most disappointed of!

"We wish that from now on you will listen to your heart instead of Marcelo. Cultural differences combined with greed, opportunism and love is a dangerous combination. Do not wither yourself.

"This decision is not something we are especially proud of but you gave us no choice. The gap between us is too wide. And the decision is made by us four unanimously. We are beyond the point where things could be settled by talking.

"All the best for your life and career, Tuomas."

NIGHTWISH recorded the final show of their "Once" world tour — on Friday (Oct. 21) at the Hartwall Arena in Helsinki — for an upcoming CD/DVD, entitled "End of an Era". "As you can imagine, the atmosphere in the arena was wild but also quite blue," the band write on their web site. "This was the ending for a one and a half year lasting 'Once' world Tour. NIGHTWISH wishes to thank everybody for an unbelievable tour. Unfortunately, the title 'End of an Era' also holds a deeper meaning."

[Nemesis]

I'm seeing Fear Factory and Strapping Young Lad in a week, so that should be a decent show. Not a huge fan of FF these days, but they play stuff all the way back to their first album, and they're great to see live, surprisingly. And I'm excited to see SYL for the first time. That should be nuts.

Anyone heard of Darkane or It Dies Today? Those are the opening acts for the show.

I also saw Bloodhound Gang last week, which actually ended up being hilarious, but that's talk for another thread. :$

I'd like to see some heavier stuff live, but I don't know if anyone I know would go with me. :\

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Edguy - Rocket Ride, due to be released on Jan 10th.

[SerialHunter]

Today i heard this guys called "Cave-In", great stuff, anyone owns the album? is it any good?

[Hells Bells]

Does anyone know any good metal covers of songs?

[SerialHunter]

Does anyone know any good metal covers of songs?
Danzig - Hand of Doom (Black Sabbath)
Pantera - Planet Caravan (Black Sabbath)
Type O Negative - Day Tripper (The Beatles)
Type O Negative - Hey Pete (Jimmy Hendrix)
Entombed - 21st century schizoid man (King Crimson)
Machine Head - Message in a bottle (The Police)
Fear Factory - I will follow (U2)

[N.E.R.F.]

The Root of All Evil
Panic Attack
Some song from the Majesty days :dunno:
Fortune in Lies
UNDER A GLASS MOON
Caught in a Web
Under Peruvian Skies/
WISH YOU WERE HERE intro :drool:
Fatal Tragedy :hyper:
About to Crash (reprise)/Losing Time
----INTERMISSION----
As I Am
Endless Sacrifice
Never Enough
Sacrificed Sons
OCTAVARIUM :drool:
----ENCORE----
Pull Me Under/Metropolis Part One

:ejaculate:

I am spent.

[Kris]

Cunt.

[N.E.R.F.]

Also, hearing James LaBrie sing "Lick my ass and balls" is quite possibly the most surreal experience of my life.

[Throb]

Aha, he did that version? I love it. If they don't come to Texas on their tour next year, I will honestly cut the jugular and carotid artery of some unlucky son of a bitch that happens to be near me when I find out.

[fear is the mindkiller]

The Root of All Evil
Panic Attack
Some song from the Majesty days :dunno:
Fortune in Lies
UNDER A GLASS MOON
Caught in a Web
Under Peruvian Skies/
WISH YOU WERE HERE intro :drool:
Fatal Tragedy :hyper:
About to Crash (reprise)/Losing Time
----INTERMISSION----
As I Am
Endless Sacrifice
Never Enough
Sacrificed Sons
OCTAVARIUM :drool:
----ENCORE----
Pull Me Under/Metropolis Part One

:ejaculate:

I am spent.



No 'Take The Time'?? That's quite possibly my most favorite DT song ever.

[Judas Iscariot]

I AM SO STRONG YOUR LIFE IS GONE

[Cactus Lem]

The Root of All Evil
Panic Attack
Some song from the Majesty days :dunno:
Fortune in Lies
UNDER A GLASS MOON
Caught in a Web
Under Peruvian Skies/
WISH YOU WERE HERE intro :drool:
Fatal Tragedy :hyper:
About to Crash (reprise)/Losing Time
----INTERMISSION----
As I Am
Endless Sacrifice
Never Enough
Sacrificed Sons
OCTAVARIUM :drool:
----ENCORE----
Pull Me Under/Metropolis Part One

:ejaculate:

I am spent.

I wish I went to that show instead. The set we got actually sucked. Me and my mates felt pretty ripped off at the end of the night.

[N.E.R.F.]

What did you get? I wish I went to both.

[darkhorse]

Does anyone know any good metal covers of songs?

There's a cool cover of "Enjoy The Silence" from It Dies Today on the Masters of Horror soundtrack. Probably wouldn't recommend buying the album but you might want to d/l that song at least.

[Crabby]

I went and saw Electric Wizard the other niht with about 50 people there! Not really my kinda Metal but it was interesting.

I went and caught Arch Enemy again last night as well.

Got to Utopia a little over half an hour before the signing started. Had to wait a while, but that was cool. Unfortunately Angela had a *cold* and wasn't in attendance. But eh. Got two AE albums signed, as well as some Beggars and Carcass stuff done as well.

Infernal Method were cool although I found em' to be a little samey towards the end of the set. Graham Goode's a solid drummer despite the fact that he's somewhat of a tool.

Arch Enemy were very fucking enjoyable though. Opened with Nemesis, played about five songs from Doomsday from memory, as well as a couple each from Wages and Anthems, and a few older ones also.Great energy, stage presence and the sound was pretty solid for the most part. The soloing sounded fantastic and the melodies came off without a hitch, and Daniel's drum solo was enjoyable as well. Only minor complaint was that Fredrik's solo during "Ravenous" isn't as impressive as the one Chris does on record, but eh. Mosh wasn't anything brilliant but was still a lot of fun. Sharlee is a deadset unit! He looked about seven feet tall up on stage.

Headed over to the after party, didn't think the band would show up, though. Watched Inane Eminence who were cool, and then saw Daniel walked past, followed by the other three guys. I was worried about bothering em', but seeing as others were getting em' to sign stuff I quickly got the four of em' (again no Angela, Sharlee told me she was back at the hotel) to sign one of the many tour posters they had at the club, which will soon be happily plastered on to my wall! Had a brief chat with each of em, 'Sharlee in particular is a great guy.

And Mike Amott laughed when I told him I prefer the new Beggars to Doomsday Machine! Haha. Great night overall, though.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Happy Birthday Nemesis.

[Nemesis]

Woohoo! Thanks, man. :beer:

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Aussie_Outlaw again.

:mad: What's with you consistently good posters?!? You and BIGFEETS and Bill Casey. It's a conspiracy against giving out rep points, dammit. :irked:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Give the points out more freely.

[Hells Bells]

I recently bought albums by Ed Gein, Demon Hunter, and Otep. Not sure what to make of them yet, but I'll let you know what i think later.

[SerialHunter]

I thought it was a good idea to make this post with my Top 10 Metal albums of 2005, it goes:

Trivium - Ascendancy
Cave In - Perfect Pitch Black
Manntis - Sleep In Your Grave
Every time i Die - Gutter Phenomenon
Throwdown - Vendetta
Iommi - Fused
Mindless Self Indulgence - You'll Rebel To Anything
Turbonegro - Party Animals
Straping Young Lad - Alien
SOAD - Mezmerize


*Best comps of 2005*
Megadeth - Greatest Hits
Anthrax - Anthrology
Motley Crue - Red, White and Crue
Ministry - Rantology
Ozzy Osbourne - Prince of Darkness


So, Which are your lists ?

[Nemesis]

Give the points out more freely.

I know, I know. I'm just too lazy to do that sort of thing on a regular basis, though. Just some unwarranted bitching. :happysad:



I'd do a top 2005 album thing, but I think the only CDs I bought that were actually released this year were Nile and Necrophagia's new albums.

[Deathcow]

KSE re-released Alive or Just Breathing....holy shit, the track "When The Balance is Broken" should have been released, it's one of their best for sure...