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Bandit
January 30th, 2005, 8:59 PM
Yeah ... this is a METAL discussion thread...

:p

Crabby
February 7th, 2005, 8:22 PM
Hatebreed have a habit of stealing the show when supporting over-rated bands.

Metal For The Brain on the weekend was great again, one of the surprises was Hardcore band Mindsnare being one of the best bands of the day,picked up one odf their albums as well.And I know Mick doesn't like em', but I bought Walk The Earth's EP and it's surprisingly good.Alarum's album is also damn good.

darkhorse
February 7th, 2005, 10:10 PM
Hatebreed have a habit of stealing the show when supporting over-rated bands.


I saw a Hatebreed headlining show a few weeks ago. They were awesome. Agnostic Front played right before they did. While I don't consider myself an AF fan (because I never listened to any of their stuff), they put on one hell of a performance. Not bad for a band that's been around for a long time.

NiMMERS
February 8th, 2005, 3:13 AM
And I know Mick doesn't like em', but I bought Walk The Earth's EP and it's surprisingly good.

I wouldn't say I don't like them, they just don't hit the spot so to speak.

All you brutal death metal bands should check out Portal. Some really weird and out there music that's for sure. Stellar musicianship and creativity galore.

Envisage a sound of classic black metal tones and production played via ulta technical and atypical death metal.

A strange and wonderful sight to behold live as well.

My suprise showstopper gig of M4TB.

SideburnZ
February 8th, 2005, 7:37 PM
When is Marduks new album out?

Or did it come out?

It was Plague something, wasn't it? Plague Angel, maybe?

I want news, but I'm too lazy to look around. :(

QuietStorm
February 8th, 2005, 7:51 PM
There is a lot about Marduk the god in the Illuminatus! Trilogy that I am re-reading right now....


But the band scares me, from the pics and song titles I've seen. I am a pussy as you well know.

Myles
February 8th, 2005, 11:07 PM
Hey, guys, I want some recommendations because I wanna get into metal.

My current tastes include System of a Down, Jason Mraz, and OLD Shania Twain.

Thanks

Myles
February 8th, 2005, 11:09 PM
Oh and s club 7.

NiMMERS
February 9th, 2005, 2:38 AM
I can play with my cock.

....

Only just, junior burger.

darkhorse
February 9th, 2005, 2:52 AM
Has anyone else heard the new Strapping Young Lad album yet?

Nemesis
February 9th, 2005, 3:05 AM
Hey, guys, I want some recommendations because I wanna get into metal.

My current tastes include System of a Down, Jason Mraz, and OLD Shania Twain.

Thanks

Just when you think he couldn't be even more of a nutsack...

Spooney
February 10th, 2005, 4:24 AM
Has anyone else heard the new Strapping Young Lad album yet?

Apparently Nimmers has.

I'm dying to, I heard it was more of a cross between SYL and Terria, and since Terris is definitely my favourite Devin solo record I am salivating at the prospect.

Wil I like the self titled album I really don't think it was anywhere near as brilliant as City (top five metal albums of all time imo) Nimmers tells me that this album really qualifies as a sequel to city, lets hope it does.

Aussie_Outlaw
February 11th, 2005, 7:00 AM
http://www.spazoutny.com/ironmaiden.htm

And who says heavy metal isn't educational?

(Note the very bad coding on the site)

Spooney
February 11th, 2005, 9:46 AM
that site is classic,.. loved it, the picks of these stoner kids at the bottom are hilarioous!

Crabby
February 12th, 2005, 3:30 AM
The new SYL fucking rules, sounds like "City" crossed with Meshuggah in places.It's on another level to their self-titled album.I finally got to listen to the whole thing yesterday and have been spinning it constantly ever since.

I caught Isis last night, they were amazing.Tight as a drum and played a flawless 90-minute set from each of their releases.Main support The Stockholm Syndrome were pretty good as well.

What does everyone think of the new Dark Tranquility? I'm really digging it, nice to see em' going in a slightly heavier direction again.

Spooney
February 12th, 2005, 6:57 AM
so how is everyone gettin this syl?

Ringo
February 13th, 2005, 5:11 PM
Well I read the other day in a Metal magazine that Phil Anselmo has said we won't be seeing him for a long time and that he might be quiting music, in light of Dimebag's recent death.

Seeing Mastodon again next week along with Dozer. Seeing The Haunted shortly after that.

SerialHunter
February 15th, 2005, 12:32 AM
Phil quits? well i guess is for the better, but i really would like to listen to a new DOWN album in the future...

Nemesis
February 15th, 2005, 2:06 AM
Hmm...maybe it is for the better. I mean, I'm not going to discredit Phil Anselmo for what he did with Pantera, and for metal as a whole, but having to sit through a Superjoint Ritual set while he's stoned out of his skull is not exactly something that I'll miss when I go to a concert.

Also, I finally bought Deicide - Scars of the Crucifix and Children of Bodom - Hatecrew Deathroll a few weeks back. Awesome shit.

darkhorse
February 15th, 2005, 2:37 AM
When it comes to Phil, I'd say "never say never." Sure he's feeling like shit right now and he definitely has my sympathy, but when the time is right, he'll be back. At least I hope so.

Bandit
February 15th, 2005, 10:14 PM
They've had Glamtera...

They've had Pantera...

Now. It's time for...

Bamtera!

Bam Margera at lead guitars, and Phil Anselmo makes a triumphant return with the help of his ex teecee.

No more power metal shit. No more power groove shit. Now. It's time for powercore!!!111

...

I'm EXTREMELY bored right now.

Nemesis
February 16th, 2005, 2:06 AM
A few would say that Phil made some Klantera remarks on a few occasions.

Spooney
February 16th, 2005, 2:28 AM
Phil is not gonna quit. I would be very very surprised if he did

Bandit
February 16th, 2005, 7:26 PM
A few would say that Phil made some Klantera remarks on a few occasions.
Hahahahahaha :heart:

Hlebsfall
February 23rd, 2005, 10:58 AM
Brian 'Head' Welch has left Korn, because, and I quote, "He has chosen the Lord Jesus Christ as his saviour, and will be dedicating his musical pursuits to that end."

Expect him to be lining up with Jars of Clay soon.

Nemesis
February 23rd, 2005, 4:10 PM
Or a reuinion tour with Stryper...

Bandit
February 23rd, 2005, 7:21 PM
That isn't bad news at all.

SideburnZ
February 23rd, 2005, 9:34 PM
Brian 'Head' Welch has left Korn, because, and I quote, "He has chosen the Lord Jesus Christ as his saviour, and will be dedicating his musical pursuits to that end."

Expect him to be lining up with Jars of Clay soon.


He should have just subtley turned Korn into a religious group.

"You raped me when I was youngggg!!!!
[With the love of Jesus!]
You fucking whore, I hate youuu!!!!
[But I love Jesus!]"

It'd be class.

Crabby
February 24th, 2005, 3:47 AM
Megadeth Aussie tour dates-

April 14 Melbourne The Palace
April 15 Sydney NSW University Roundhouse
April 16 Brisbane The Arena

I'm sure Dave is orgasming over this news.I'll be at the Sydney show for certain.

Nemesis
March 1st, 2005, 2:02 AM
Just got these in the mail:

Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast
Judas Priest - Screaming for Vengeance
Ozzy - Bark at the Moon

I had to reorder them because either the mail didn't deliver them, or some asshat in my apartment complex swiped the package before I got it. Oh well, at least I didn't get billed twice.

Awesome CDs, especially the Priest one. I'm really liking the older stuff now.

The Gooch
March 1st, 2005, 12:38 PM
Good pick-ups Nemesis. I was a huge Priest fan in the 80's.

I just wanted to share my "Red, White and Cre" experience. Being quite a bit older than most posters (I'm 32), I grew up loving the Cre in the 80's. Hell, my grade 8 picture I have a fucking mullet and a "Theatre of Pain" 3/4 length rock shirt. All you old school guys know the shit I'm talking about. I think they may even be making a come back?

Anyhow, I managed to land second row floor tickets in the pre-sale. My spot was right in front of Nikki's mic, which was great as I myself am a bassist and Sixx is my favourite band member. It was fucking unbelievable. The Cre played a lot of old shit in the first set. Hidden treasures like "Red Hot", "10 Seconds To Love", and "Louder Than Hell" were all on the set list which surprised the hell out of me. I don't know if Nikki heard me screaming it, but they played "On With The Show" which is my favourite Cre song. After reading "The Dirt" the song makes me love it even more. Without a doubt Sixx is one of the best writers of metal lyrics. It is honest and raw.

The concert was truly amazing. Nikki gave my gal a salute near the end of the concert. He seems very genuine in his love for the fans. I got a few nods of acknowledgement which was good enough for me.

This may be the last go around for the band, so I urge fans to take advantage. You will not be disappointed. Nobody can honestly leave a Cre concert without something to talk about.

SideburnZ
March 1st, 2005, 2:25 PM
Picked up Nokturnal Mortums Lunar Poetry and COBS new EP. :yes: Both awesome.

Black Eagle
March 2nd, 2005, 4:00 AM
Hey Davey, Crabs or anyone. I'm in need of a few bands in the mould of Avantasia, Edguy, Rhapsody, Symphony X etc etc.

Ringo
March 2nd, 2005, 2:00 PM
Ayreon
Spock's Beard
Dream Theater
Pain Of Salvation
Blind Guardian
Savatage
Hammerfall
Gamma Ray
Helloween
Stratovarius
Dream Evil

Some to a much lesser extent than others, but most of those bands are along the same lines as the bands you mentioned. I'm sure Mira will give you a comprehensive list of names of more obscure bands.

Alex E
March 4th, 2005, 3:36 PM
Hey Davey, Crabs or anyone. I'm in need of a few bands in the mould of Avantasia, Edguy, Rhapsody, Symphony X etc etc.

I know the guy under me replied too, so there might be some overlap. The stuff in brackets is the album you should listen to, imo.
Kamelot (Karma)
Hammerfall (Legacy of Kings)
Blind Guardian (Nightfall in middle earth)
Demons & Wizards
Stratovarius (Infinite)
Rage (Unity)
Angra (temple of shadows)
Children of Bodom (really fun if you can deal with the vocals.)
Masterplan
Lost Horizon
Gamma Ray
Wuthering Heights (Far from the madding crowd)
Twilightning
Dragonforce (sonic firestorm)
Nightwish (Wishmaster if you want power metal, Once otherwise)
Brainstorm (soul temptation)
Tad Morose (modus vivendi)
Axel rudi pell
Dream Evil (Dragonslayer)
Finntroll (nattfodd)
Iced Earth (something wicked this way comes. Thrashier)
Mago de Oz (spanish folk metal)
Mercenary (11 dreams)
Pagan's mind (celestial entrance)
Sonata Arctica
Therion (Sirius B)
Labyrinth (s/t)
Pyramaze (melancholy beast)
Heavenly (dust to dust)
Apocalyptica (s/t)
Circle II Circle + Savatage

I dunno. Specifiy more whether you want straight power metal, melodic death, or prog. I can help.

And btw, for all you power metal fans out there, here's some recent good stuff...
Kamelot - The black halo - If you're looking for catchy, classic Kamelot, this won't really do it aside from three songs. This is more proggy at times, but still enjoyable. I'd put it on par with Epica, and below Karma. The Haunting is a really catchy, fun song. March of Mephisto is good as well.

Masterplan - Aeronautics - I wouldn't say it's better than the debut, just because the debut was pretty much as good as it could have been for a metal rock album with all the veterans they had. Definately worth a listen, especially for Crimson Rider, Falling Sparrow, Back for my Life, and Black in the Burn.

Strapping young lad - Alien - Nothing much to say...if you like Devy, you'll like it. It's heavy. Ha, Heavy Devy.

Mercenary - 11 Dreams - I think this got its North American release this month. Of course, I've had it since September. It's power metal with harsh vocals, but not in the way you might be thinking. The songs are deeper than Hammerfall, for instance, and the vocals are strong. I can't really compare it to anything.

Wintersun - Wintersun - Simply put, if you like Children of Bodom, you'll enjoy this. More Finnish madness.

Black Eagle
March 5th, 2005, 2:02 AM
Cheers for the lists lads. I'm into the shit like Stratovarius (fourth dimension) and Dragonforce (sonic firestorm) where there are keys/strings in the background, with fast guitar and double kick drums and screeching vocals.

I also like a mix of symphony music over the top of a metal band. I just downloaded a mix between the trans siberian ochestra and Metallica playing carol of the bells, which sounds unreal. So stuff like that.

Thanks.

Ringo
March 5th, 2005, 5:31 PM
I completely forgot about Dragonforce, They really are fucking brilliant. :yes:

Ms. Morningstar
March 5th, 2005, 8:34 PM
That list is ricockulously cool. You even listed the lesser know, yet still bad-ass power metal bands Pyramaze, Labyrinth, Wuthering Heights...

The only thing is you forgot to recommend Dreamtale, who are one the best power metal bands ever. Beyond Reality :heart:

Crabby
March 5th, 2005, 11:58 PM
I'd also recommed some Lacuna Coil and The Gathering.Plus there's two great Aussie Power Metal bands well worth checking out- Dungeon and Black Majesty.

I haven't posted much lately,but eh.I caught Shadows Fall/As I Lay Dying/Parkway Drive a few weeks back, which was enjoyable enough but far from spectacular.

Also caught The Dillinger Escape Plan last weekend who were mindblowingly amazing.If you have a chance to see these guys, take it.Intensity,incredible technical prowess and loads of energy.One of the best gigs I've seen by a mile.

Any opinions on the new Soilwork or Judas Priest? I haven't got the latter yet, but eh."Stabbing The Drama" is good but feels a little too formulaic and alcking inspiration at times.Although their new drummer is damn good.

Bandit
March 6th, 2005, 2:57 PM
I don't believe I have any updates... Not until April 24th anyways.

Alex E
March 10th, 2005, 1:39 AM
Hey, I'm sure there'll be some interested people here. I've had this for a while but never thought to mention it on here. I run a radio show on a local station, also on the internet, www.ckuw.ca. It's 3-6 am (central time) friday mornings (yes, I've actually built a listenerbase).

This week, some of the stuff I plan to spin is the new Motorhead, new Apocalyptica, new SYL, vintage Rage and Conception, new Green Carnation, Wintersun, Kalmah, new Running Wild, plus all the other random stuff that I play, anything from Dimmu to Hammerfall to Bon Jovi.

I like knowing where people are listening from, so feel free to send a request or comment to metalwithoutborders@gmail.com

Anyway, back on topic. Motorhead is coming to Winnipeg, and I don't think I'll go. It's at a place with assigned seating...maybe I'm just used to smaller shows or whatever, but it seems strange to stay in a seat to watch a metal show, yeah?

Bandit
March 10th, 2005, 1:47 AM
That's 1-4 am pacific time, correct?

Alex E
March 10th, 2005, 2:09 AM
If you're in the same zone as Vancouver, then it's 1-4, yeah. Grab thy sword of steel!

Alex E
March 10th, 2005, 12:25 PM
I just noticed Hammerfall's new cd came out yesterday. I'll at least play the single, too. Has anyone seen the video? When I first saw Joachim, I thought they had a different singer - the beard does a lot...

http://www.aftonbladet.se/atv/player.html?catID=29&clipID=51

Ms. Morningstar
March 10th, 2005, 7:12 PM
I've seen it, it's okay I guess, kinda boring... not much to it. The song is awesome though.

Nemesis
March 20th, 2005, 5:47 AM
Just bought Motorhead - Bastards. Burner is still my favorite Motorhead song ever, but I am the Sword comes pretty close. And it's good to finally hear Born to Raise Hell without Ice T and that Ugly Kid Joe guy. :shifty:

I got Type O Negative - October Rust too, but I haven't listened to that yet, since the Motorhead CD has been taking up my time like an evil woman. :shifty:

Aussie_Outlaw
March 20th, 2005, 11:17 AM
:bowdown: H.M.J. :bowdown:

Just seemed appropriate for some reason.

IluvWWE
March 20th, 2005, 2:16 PM
Just bought Motorhead - Bastards. Burner is still my favorite Motorhead song ever, but I am the Sword comes pretty close. And it's good to finally hear Born to Raise Hell without Ice T and that Ugly Kid Joe guy. :shifty:

I got Type O Negative - October Rust too, but I haven't listened to that yet, since the Motorhead CD has been taking up my time like an evil woman. :shifty:

I'm seeing them April first

It's sad that Fozzy is going to make them look like 80 year old men once they tear up the stage.

Spooney
March 21st, 2005, 4:36 AM
just picked up new SYL and soilwork. apparently soilwork is a bit nu metally, but I have liked all their other cd's so I bought it anyway.

new syl is brilliant.

QuietStorm
March 21st, 2005, 1:32 PM
I am listening to the new Soilwork right now. It is meh. Makes Figure Number Five seem like a classic by comparison.

SideburnZ
March 21st, 2005, 1:53 PM
I heard a few songs off the new SYL. The few I heard > anything on SYL. But I still think City is untoppable.

I have a huge erection for that album though.

darkhorse
March 21st, 2005, 4:01 PM
I liked "SYL" but "Alien" is just so much better. I still need to listen to "City", though.

Nemesis
March 21st, 2005, 10:07 PM
It's sad that Fozzy is going to make them look like 80 year old men once they tear up the stage.

Hahaha, please.

Fozzy is pretty good, but Motorhead is great. Stuck Mojo was better than Fozzy.

Aussie_Outlaw
March 22nd, 2005, 9:38 AM
Just got back from Nightwish / Vanishing Point.

Nightwish setlist looked something like this: not exact but close enough

Dark Chest Of Wonders
Planet Hell
The Kinslayer
The Phantom Of The Opera
Instrumental from earlier album I can't remember/couldn't identify
Pink floyd song I can't remember
Slaying The Dreamer
Bless The Child
The Siren
Wishmaster
Kuolema Tekee Taiteilijan
Nemo
ENCORE:
Ghost Love Score
Wish I Had An Angel


I'll write something up later perhaps when my legs stop hurting and I'm not being told to do other things.

N.E.R.F.
March 22nd, 2005, 9:41 AM
No Moondance or Over the Hills and Far Away? :(

Nemo though :yes:

Throb
March 22nd, 2005, 11:28 AM
I know I saw some news about this a little while ago, but I don't remember what it said, so I'll ask here. What is the news on the next Tool album? I heard they were going in the studio, and then they weren't, then they were, etc. So what the hell?

Also, EXCELLENT news:


Dream Theater have completed work on their 8th full length studio album entitled "OCTAVARIUM" which is tentatively set for release through Atlantic Records on June 7th, 2005.

The track listing is as follows:

1. The Root Of All Evil
2. The Answer Lies Within
3. These Walls
4. I Walk Beside You
5. Panic Attack
6. Never Enough
7. Sacrificed Sons
8. Octavarium

Dream Theater's 2005/2006 World Tour will kick off on June 10th in Sweden with a leg of European Festivals and select headlining shows which will then be followed by a North American leg throughout July/August as part of a "package" tour with several other bands TBA very soon.....


:hyper: Can't wait. Hopefully they'll go back to the SFAM/Awake style, because they're whole 'crazy metal' stage has about run its course.

Also, there are like 8 symbols all over this news. There are 8 tracks, it's their 8'th studio album, and people have made up tons of others.

darkhorse
March 22nd, 2005, 2:24 PM
I just d/led the Burn The Priest re-release. So far I've listened to about half the album and the songs I've listened to are fucking awesome.

N.E.R.F.
March 22nd, 2005, 3:47 PM
Oh god yes that Dream Theater news is the best news I've heard in a long time. June 7th? :hyper:

Throb
March 22nd, 2005, 4:46 PM
Yes, June 7. I'm not even gonna order it online, I'm gonna fuckin be at Best Buy when it opens on that day. :hyper:

Cactus Lem
March 22nd, 2005, 6:49 PM
I just d/led the Burn The Priest re-release. So far I've listened to about half the album and the songs I've listened to are fucking awesome.

Was that Lamb Of God's original name?

darkhorse
March 22nd, 2005, 8:19 PM
Was that Lamb Of God's original name?

Yeah. The remastered re-release of their first album (under the name "Burn The Priest") came out today.

Aussie_Outlaw
March 23rd, 2005, 2:53 AM
Nightwish setlist looked something like this: not exact but close enough

Dark Chest Of Wonders
Planet Hell
The Kinslayer
The Phantom Of The Opera
Instrumental from earlier album I can't remember/couldn't identify
Pink floyd song I can't remember

Bless The Child
Slaying The Dreamer
The Siren
Wishmaster
Kuolema Tekee Taiteilijan
Nemo
ENCORE:
Ghost Love Score
Wish I Had An Angel

I figure I'll continue my post while I'm waiting for 584MB to download at university, so i have 20 min or so.

Well Vanishing Point opened for Nightwish, and it must be said, it is obvious why VP are one of the two or so biggest metal bands in Australia. Great stage banter, decent songs, sense of humour and all that crap. They just need a bit more promotion, it's pretty much the only thing holding them back.

As for Nightwish, I wish I could say the same, while Nightwish do have a decent catalogue, the problem with the live set is that there's virtually no stage banter, and the setlist order is absolute pish. It just doesn't flow, it doesn't work at all. By the time Wishmaster is played (quite a fast energetic song) you're absoluetly screwed, but then the concert stops dead instead of running with that energy.

And did Taj really need to disappear after 4 songs for 10+ minutes for a wardrobe change and rest? I'm slightly disappointed, while the musicianmans ship is brilliant and the songs are as well, it's the actual arrangement and banter which make a concert great.

Anthrax had it, Edguy had it, Soilwork had it. Vanishing Point had it. Nightwish did not.

But besides that it's a good night, and as my mate glenn calls it 'chick metal' which means the crowd isn't as physical as you'd expect in a thrash concert. Two crowd surfers in the entire night.

NEED MORE VIOLENCE!!!

Grimario
March 23rd, 2005, 3:28 AM
Just got Suspended Animation. :bowdown:

Does Petrucci making love to my ears count as metal? :dunno:

Cactus Lem
March 23rd, 2005, 2:11 PM
Yeah. The remastered re-release of their first album (under the name "Burn The Priest") came out today.

Wow! I think it must be a US release only as I've heard nothing about it in the UK?

Is it the same lineup and how have they progressed since the album? Also what year was it released?

darkhorse
March 23rd, 2005, 4:15 PM
Is it the same lineup and how have they progressed since the album? Also what year was it released?

As far as I know, the cd was originally released in 1999. I'm pretty sure its the same lineup. Randy's vocals on this cd sound similar to the vocals on "New American Gospel" and, while "New American Gospel" is a great album, so far I like the Burn the Priest disc more. However, "As The Palaces Burn" blows both discs out of the water.

TripleGame
March 23rd, 2005, 5:35 PM
Has anyone seen Metallica's Some Kind of Monster Documentary? I was wondering if it was any good?? And has anyone caught there concerts while they were on tour last year???

Ringo
March 23rd, 2005, 5:45 PM
Has anyone seen Metallica's Some Kind of Monster Documentary? I was wondering if it was any good?? And has anyone caught there concerts while they were on tour last year???

It's better than I expected it to be I suppose. I've come out of it with even more negative views on James, but I feel that maybe Lars isn't as bad as I thought..

Crabby
March 24th, 2005, 2:43 AM
I thought the Nightwish show in Sydney was great- Marco did include some stage banter, and surprisingly even Tarja had a few things to say.Tarja's voice is amazing live, and was helped by the fact that the mix was damn near perfect.

Dungeon were good as well, you'd never know they were using temporary replacements, as they're always good live reagardless.

Aussie_Outlaw
March 24th, 2005, 3:01 AM
Was the stage banter any good? All we managed to get out of him was that they said they weren't using their proper equiptment as the airline screwed it up and maybe one or two words occasionally.

But yes the mix was decent.

Crabby
March 24th, 2005, 5:39 AM
Marco made a few jokes, etc, commented on how the crowd started an "Aussie Aussie Aussie" chant for some reason (I know they were shocked by it at the Melbourne shows).

I must say I'm dead keen to see Motley Crue and Motorhead's tour in December, which is now confirmed.Fuck yes.

Spooney
March 24th, 2005, 6:41 AM
:hyper: Can't wait. Hopefully they'll go back to the SFAM/Awake style, because they're whole 'crazy metal' stage has about run its course.

Also, there are like 8 symbols all over this news. There are 8 tracks, it's their 8'th studio album, and people have made up tons of others.

I didn't much like the style of Train of Thought to be honest, although I do indeed like what they did on SDOIT. although the songs were awesome on train of thought I didn't think so much of the production, I think SFAM is my favourite dt album, so yeah, something along those lines would be awesome.

Throb
March 24th, 2005, 4:30 PM
Just got Suspended Animation. :bowdown:

Does Petrucci making love to my ears count as metal? :dunno:

Yes it does count. SA is excellent. I gotta say, it surprised me though that the songs weren't necessarily built around wanking, and were actually well-developed. It was pure genius.

:bowdown:

Alex E
March 24th, 2005, 5:07 PM
The Nightwish thing seems a bit weird, in that they never play some of those songs live. I've seen them five times over the past few years, and they've never played an instrumental, a Floyd cover, Kuolema, or The Siren. I agree that the setlist order looks horrible, there's no flow. I think you just caught them on a bad day...maybe Tuomas couldn't do some of the songs because he didn't have his usual keyboard or something. From the shows on the Once tour I've seen, a typical setlist would look something like this:
DCOW
Planet Hell
Come cover me
Phantom of the opera
Everdream
Cover
Bless the child
Nemo
Higher than hope
Wishmaster
Over the hills
-------
Dead boy's poem or Sleeping sun into
Slaying the Dreamer \ or ghost love score
Wish I had an Angel /

The only songs I'd really like to hear that I haven't seen live yet are Romanticide and Pharaoh. I found Ghost love score a little disappointing...I think that they should only do it at big festivals, or maybe the dvd shoot, where they have a full orchestra. It takes away from it to have 2 minutes of black onstage.

Moz
March 24th, 2005, 6:06 PM
I'd just like to pop in and say the new QOTSA album is brilliant.

I know they're not Norwegian but I'd still call them metal.

Bandit
March 24th, 2005, 7:21 PM
Hahahaha "I know they're not norwegian"

But yeah, not a lot of metal comes from Norway these days.

Moz
March 24th, 2005, 9:47 PM
Well Scandanavia or whatever.

Spooney
March 25th, 2005, 1:10 AM
I liked "SYL" but "Alien" is just so much better. I still need to listen to "City", though.


Alien and SYL are both great but city totally shits on both of them.

Ringo
March 26th, 2005, 6:31 AM
Some stuff...

Iron Maiden are headlining the Reading and Leeds Festivals in the UK this year.
Lacuna Coil, Black Sabbath, Megadeth, Anthrax, Slayer, Nightwish, Motorhead, In Flames, Chimaira, Meshuggah, Unearth, KsE, Mastodon and Caliban are amongst the Metal bands playing at Download Festival this year.
Dave Mustaine will make an announcement in the Summer regarding the future of Megadeth.

Bandit
March 29th, 2005, 7:48 PM
Great updates RM. :yes:

Update I've heard from Carpathian Forest's forums is that they are in the works on a new album, and it shall be good considering most of the main writing is going to be done by Tchort. I'm anxiously awaiting this album.

Nemesis
March 30th, 2005, 4:03 PM
I just bought Lamb of God - Ashes of the Wake and Children of Bodom's latest EP over spring break. I'm going to see Lamb of God in Kansas City next month. It'll be the third time I've seen them live. :cool:

Ringo
March 30th, 2005, 4:42 PM
Great updates RM. :yes:

Update I've heard from Carpathian Forest's forums is that they are in the works on a new album, and it shall be good considering most of the main writing is going to be done by Tchort. I'm anxiously awaiting this album.


It's a shame. This thread is crap at the moment, and it used to be one of the few threads in this hopeless forum that was updated on a regular basis. It's not the same without Crabby's old updates. :(

Kev
April 6th, 2005, 12:36 AM
Uh, I don't listen to that much metal, and am quite uncultured with music, but this Seek and Destroy song by Metallica is the bee's knees. That and Master of Puppets..

I'm on 56k and can't really spare anything for a CD at the moment, but I'm a massive fan of Ghost Love Score and Nemo and everyone I ask can't seem to give me just a few key choices of their favourite Nightwish songs. Just a couple that any of you think would stand out and stuff..

..Also, what genre would QOTSA be under, because I love a lot of their songs, and love to scare the shit out of friends and family by playing Millionaire really really loudly..

Posted briefly in here before, but really I can't listen to hard stuff, because the whole "grooooor" thing puts me off a fair bit, mainly because I like to sing along with my music and I can't make that noise properly. :$ Also my mate that's more into this shit likes the emo shit where angsty 19 year olds whinge and scream for no reason about nothing.

Just some questions and rambling. Love to hear any suggestions for good pump-up power metal songs even, because they're fantastic for jogging. When Ghost Love Score's on I run 9098120398 km's an hour and then burst into a ball of light, all while singing ridiculously loudly and drawing a lot of attention to myself.

SerialHunter
April 6th, 2005, 1:13 AM
From www.Anthrax.com
HEAVY METAL IN A STATE OF EUPHORIA!

March 24, 2005

Metal Fans Are Once Again 'Caught In A Mosh'!!!



OFFICIALLY - The Triumphant REUNION, The Original Line-up of Legendary Speed Metal Icons!!!

ANTHRAX RETURNS!!!

New York's own ANTHRAX has an unmistakable signature style and distinct sound that breaks musical, cultural and political boundaries - influencing a myriad of bands throughout the spectrum of musical genres for 20 years.

Twice GRAMMY-nominated, MTV/VMA nominees and Multi-Platinum and Gold Awarded music veterans, ANTHRAX has sold over 10,000,000 records worldwide, including nine studio albums, two live albums, three greatest hits, plus two DVDs. Touring pros ANTHRAX performed on over fifty tours spanning the globe - in thirty-two countries on five continents including Europe, North America, South America, Australia and Asia.

Now, for the first time in 13 years, the entire original lineup of Joey Belladonna, Frankie Bello, Charlie Benante, Scott Ian and Danny Spitz will gather together in one room to discuss new music releases, as well as the future plans for this monumental ANTHRAX reunion.

Woa! this sounds both cool and confusing: so Johnny Bush is Out?, didn't Belladona was in poor shape and he even sang the National Athem wrong?, new musical releases, so this is long term?

fear is the mindkiller
April 6th, 2005, 5:20 PM
From Dreamtheater.net:

Megadeth and Dream Theater to co-headline GIGANTOUR 2005
Added on 04-05-2005

For Immediate Release:

DAVE MUSTAINE'S 'GIGANTOUR'
SET TO LAUNCH IN LATE JULY;
DREAM THEATER, FEAR FACTORY,
DILLINGER ESCAPE PLAN AND NEVERMORE
CONFIRMED TO JOIN MEGADETH ON THE MAINSTAGE
FOR SIX-WEEK NORTH AMERICAN TREK

It's called GIGANTOUR, and it's the brainchild of MEGADETH frontman/guitarist DAVE MUSTAINE.

Set to launch in late July, GIGANTOUR is a six-week festival trek co-headlined by MEGADETH and DREAM THEATER, who'll be accompanied by other mainstage acts Fear Factory, Dillinger Escape Plan and Nevermore. Artists for the second stage will be announced in the coming weeks.

GIGANTOUR follows MEGADETH's sold-out 2004 "Blackmail The Universe" Tour in support of 2004's THE SYSTEM HAS FAILED--MEGADETH's tenth studio album--which debuted on the charts at #18 and was critically hailed as a brilliant return to form. Bandmates Glen Drover (guitar), James MacDonough (bass) and Shawn Drover (drums) will once again join MUSTAINE on the road.

GIGANTOUR--whose moniker was inspired by the classic 1960's cartoon "Gigantor"--will criss-cross North America, with stops in amphitheatres and arenas in cities including Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Detroit, Toronto, Montreal, Washington, Philadelphia, Boston, Denver and Minneapolis, among others. The tour is implementing the "fan friendly" ticket price of approximately $35 each. MUSTAINE notes: "I think people may want an affordable alternative to the choices out there--along the lines of a pure music festival--like Monsters of Rock or Clash of the Titans."

MUSTAINE handpicked the bands for GIGANTOUR, with a focus on musicianship. "There are few very successful tours out each summer and in order to be significant, I knew the first Gigantour had to make an impact with top bands like DREAM THEATER, Fear Factory, Dillinger Escape Plan and Nevermore." MUSTAINE wanted to "put together a festival that consisted of positive bands that play heavy music in a high energy environment."

MUSTAINE comments on the other bands he's chosen for the GIGANTOUR mainstage. "I think that the variety of playing styles and the credibility of the different players is really exciting. I'm looking forward to spending time with DREAM THEATER--including my friend Mike Portnoy--while on the road. I think DREAM THEATER is unbelievably talented. I can't wait to see what their set list is going to be for this festival."

Mike Portnoy from DREAM THEATER comments on the band's perspective on the tour. "I think we probably bring some diversity to the bill, because we're kind of like chameleons--we can fit into a lot of different situations. We've done shows in the past with Iron Maiden, Slayer and Pantera, and then we've also done shows with Elton John, Yes and Deep Purple. I think our fan base is very diverse like that too." Portnoy sees GIGANTOUR as a "kind of a meeting of musicians and metal-heads." He adds: "I've been listening to MEGADETH since day one and always admired them and Dave as an artist--he's constantly stuck to his guns and stuck by the music he believes in. MEGADETH are one of the pioneers of the genre." GIGANTOUR marks the first U.S. leg of DREAM THEATER dates in support of their forthcoming release OCTAVARIUM, due out June 7 on Atlantic Records.

MUSTAINE first toured with Fear Factory in 1994. "I think Fear Factory and Dillinger Escape Plan are really going to add something different to the tour and bring some new people in." He continues, "The frontman of Nevermore [Warrell Dane] used to be in a band called Sanctuary and I produced their first record."

MUSTAINE is excited to hit the road and has a positive outlook for GIGANTOUR. "I look forward to watching this develop over the years and seeing how we can turn this into something that's going to stand the test of time. And if this works, and it really works, maybe we'll take it elsewhere."

Stay tuned for tour dates, venues and information about the second stage bands to be announced soon.



Fuck. Yes.

This is just awesome news. I'm a big fan of all the bands involved, and I will definitely be getting my tickets for this. Best metal tour of the year.

Bandit
April 8th, 2005, 8:16 PM
I bought Behemoth - Demigod from Best Buy for $10.99 on tuesday, and would to share with you all that Behemoth is an amazingly talented band. I recommend this album.

Earlier today I picked up Satyricon - Nemesis Divina, and Unleashed - Victory/Warrior (Two disc set... for the price of one. :cool: )

I got the Nemesis Divina for just $9.99 at my local music shop, which is incredibly cheap considering Nemesis Divina is out of print.

The two disc set of Unleashed was only $13.00

I'm going to listen to both (all three, I should say...?) albums on the way out to lake havasu tomorrow.

Nemesis
April 9th, 2005, 2:00 AM
Fuck, I didn't know Nemesis Divina was out of print. I want Mother North on CD. :mad:

I should check my local music store...it's where I got the Shimmy Disc Europe print of GWAR's debut CD...it has the first version of Black and Huge on it. I think the cover is different, too...at least slightly. I don't know how much of a collector's item it is, though.

Bandit
April 9th, 2005, 6:53 AM
I'm about to leave on a five hour trip, and at least one of those hours will be filled with Nemesis Divina. :wired:

I'm thinking my new Unleashed can go second.

Not sure what to listen to third... Suggestions?

Ringo
April 9th, 2005, 4:29 PM
What are everyone's opinions of Rhapsody, in here?

We seem to have a few fans of this area of metal, yet I don't hear this band's name a lot in here.

I was at 36 Crazyfists in London last night. Not really a metal band I know, but the support Twelve Tribes are more metal orientated. At the end of their set, Howard Jones from KsE came on stage to do the last song with them, which was great.

Cactus Lem
April 10th, 2005, 10:53 AM
What are everyone's opinions of Rhapsody, in here?

We seem to have a few fans of this area of metal, yet I don't hear this band's name a lot in here.

I was at 36 Crazyfists in London last night. Not really a metal band I know, but the support Twelve Tribes are more metal orientated. At the end of their set, Howard Jones from KsE came on stage to do the last song with them, which was great.

Twelve Tribes are a terrible live band. They were the main support for KsE in January, and without a doubt the worst band of the night. KsE were bloody amazing, All That Remains were impressive, Johnny Truant were excellent, but Twelve Tribes were absolute shite.

SideburnZ
April 10th, 2005, 1:34 PM
What are everyone's opinions of Rhapsody, in here?

We seem to have a few fans of this area of metal, yet I don't hear this band's name a lot in here.



Power of the Dragonflame is one of my favorite albums ever.

Sometimes I dress like an olden times knight and sit in my recliner and listen to Rhapsody.

Ringo
April 11th, 2005, 7:22 PM
Twelve Tribes are a terrible live band. They were the main support for KsE in January, and without a doubt the worst band of the night. KsE were bloody amazing, All That Remains were impressive, Johnny Truant were excellent, but Twelve Tribes were absolute shite.

Didn't say they were great, I said Howard Jones making an appearance was great.

Ringo
April 11th, 2005, 7:24 PM
Power of the Dragonflame is one of my favorite albums ever.

Sometimes I dress like an olden times knight and sit in my recliner and listen to Rhapsody.

:yes:

I bought the super Limited Edition Best Of Set complete with Sticker, Poster and Band Postcards. It's fucking great as there are several songs I'd never heard on there.

Adamy
April 11th, 2005, 7:28 PM
I bought the super Limited Edition Best Of Set complete with Sticker, Poster and Band Postcards.

:rofl:

Awesome

Ringo
April 11th, 2005, 7:38 PM
:rofl:

Awesome

I thought so.

There's one postcard inparticular that caught my attention. It has the band all sat round this huge king-like chair on which is seated some sort of little goblin holding two crossed swords. Rhapsody are all just sitting around him as if the goblin is a mate of theirs. :yes:

Cactus Lem
April 13th, 2005, 2:28 PM
Didn't say they were great, I said Howard Jones making an appearance was great.

I didn't say you said they were great, I just stated how bad 12 Tribes were when I saw them.

Crabby
April 17th, 2005, 3:55 AM
I went and caught the mighty Megadeth on Friday night, great show.

Setlist-

Blackmail The Universe
Set The World Afire
Skin O' My Teeth
Scorpion
Wake Up Dead
In My Darkest Hour
She-Wolf
Something Im Not
Angry Again
A Tout Le Monde
Die Dead Enough
Trust
Kick The Chair
Hangar 18
Return to Hangar
Back In The Day
Sweating Bullets
My Last Words
Symphony
Tornado Of Souls

Peace Sells/Paranoid
Holy Wars/Mechanix/Holy Wars

Fantastic energy from the crowd and the rest of the band were excellent (and damn that kit looked impressive).I await Dave's thoughts on the Melbourne show.A minimum of bullshit, just two hours of killer material.Dungeon were cool in support as always.

Crabby
April 19th, 2005, 8:18 AM
http://www.dreamtheater.net/covers/octavarium.jpg

"Dream Theater have completed work on their 8th full length studio album entitled "OCTAVARIUM" which is tentatively set for release through Atlantic Records on June 7th, 2005.

The track listing is as follows:

The Root Of All Evil
The Answer Lies Within
These Walls
I Walk Beside You
Panic Attack
Never Enough
Sacrificed Sons
Octavarium


This album will undoubedtly rule beyond belief.

Aussie_Outlaw
April 19th, 2005, 8:28 AM
New News:
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Crabby Repeats old News
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Brendan is a tool (http://forums.rajah.com/showpost.php?p=3229693&postcount=3807)
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Oh and errm, go fuck a goat.

Crabby
April 19th, 2005, 8:35 AM
Oh and errm, go fuck a goat.

If the artwork was posted here then I apologise for missing it Davey.

And I'd tell you to do the same, but then I've already seen a pic of your girlfriend, so it seems you've already gone that way.

Aussie_Outlaw
April 19th, 2005, 8:42 AM
:(

My girlfriend is beautiful you bastard.

PMBR
April 22nd, 2005, 12:20 AM
No advertising. Thanks.

Nemesis
April 22nd, 2005, 12:57 AM
Has anyone heard the new Cannibal Corpse yet?

Throb
April 22nd, 2005, 7:40 AM
More new Dream Theater news. In a previous post I broke the news of the new DT album coming out June 7, titled Octavarium. Well, the official artwork has now been released.

http://www.dreamtheater.net/covers/octavarium.jpg

I love it, it kinda has a Pink Floyd style feel to it.

Ringo
April 22nd, 2005, 1:37 PM
More new Dream Theater news. In a previous post I broke the news of the new DT album coming out June 7, titled Octavarium. Well, the official artwork has now been released.

http://www.dreamtheater.net/covers/octavarium.jpg

I love it, it kinda has a Pink Floyd style feel to it.

:lol:

Did you do that deliberately?

Look at the bottom of the previous page..

But yeah, this is good. I'm looking forward to it.

It's a shame this thread seems to have died, it was one of the last few good things left in The Listening Room. This was a great forum some time ago, and it's not as if everyone posted in it back then..

Bandit
April 22nd, 2005, 7:08 PM
A really good discussion forum for Metal music is http://paintedred.proboards31.com It is a great place to discuss metal and find some new bands to listen to.
It's not good for metal music.

It's good for shitty hardcore music.

I reported your post for advertising because all of your posts are about you being part of PaintedRed or whatever the fuck your little company is called.

Your company's music sucks.

WizoOzz
April 23rd, 2005, 12:06 AM
My god, it's been forever since I posted in here.

Anywho, just got a few albums. May not necessarily be new, but they're "newer" to my collection. You never realize how hard it is to stay up to date on things until you've got a kid who keeps your attention in that one limited spectrum.

Anywho, got my tax check, and made sure that I got at least a few CDs for myself. The new CoC, and from what I've had the chance to listen to, it's good. Got to see 'em live before the album, and heard a few songs, and it definitely harkens back to Deliverance moreso than America's Volume Dealer. I haven't heard it multiple times yet, but what I've heard is good.

Got BLS's Mafia which was not bad. Not as good as the first two BLS albums, but hey, it's Zakk, and it's his typical stuff.

Got Trivium's album Ascendancy or something like that. It's pretty good. IMO it's what Shadows Fall should and are capable of doing, they're just not.

Got Avenged Sevenfold's first album Sounding the Seventh Trumpet, and it's good, but the vocals aren't up to par with the second album. But good nonetheless.

Got the reissued Burn the Priest album. Good. But then again, what from Lamb of God isn't?

Also got Anthrax's The Greater of Two Evils, which is pretty good also. Damn you Dave, for getting me into Anthrax and making me see the light.

So, that's my update for the year.

Bandit
April 24th, 2005, 3:31 PM
I've got some excellent news.

Wurdulak is going into the studio this summer to record third album titled "Entrails of a Virgin".

"guitarist Fug recently revealed the following "We intend to make a really ugly, dirty, and raw record. No thrash riffs just pure fucking darkness and hell. I know Killjoy and maniac plan to sing together again, so it's going to be extremely chaotic."

Patrick Tremblay will again do the cover artwork and it's going to be the most graphic and depraved one yet!!

Susan6 has penned over a dozen new lyrics titles include "Faceless" "From Lips of the Dead" "Sacrament" "The Devil Below", "Creature of Habit" and the title track." taken from necrophagia.com

Woo, can't wait.

Throb
April 24th, 2005, 6:45 PM
:lol:

Did you do that deliberately?

Look at the bottom of the previous page..

But yeah, this is good. I'm looking forward to it.

It's a shame this thread seems to have died, it was one of the last few good things left in The Listening Room. This was a great forum some time ago, and it's not as if everyone posted in it back then..

Yeah, I did it on purpose. I already posted the track listing a while ago, and then Crabby re-posted it, so I decided to re-post his news, the cover.

Nemesis
April 26th, 2005, 2:11 AM
Got Trivium's album Ascendancy or something like that. It's pretty good. IMO it's what Shadows Fall should and are capable of doing, they're just not.



I just got a sampler with Trivium's single (from the concert I went to this weekend), and I saw their video on Fuse the next day. I'm actually starting to really like that song. I just hope I never have to see the video again. :nono:

The sampler had 3 Inches of Blood's single on it, too. That singer's voice is ridiculously high, but the song itself is pretty damn good. A dumb name for a band, but I'll have to check them out soon. :happysad:

After hearing the samples for Necrophagia's new album, I can't wait until it's released. It sounds incredible.

Crabby
April 26th, 2005, 6:31 AM
"The Greater Of Two Evils" is pretty solid, although I'm a little suprised at a few of the tracks chosen by the fans.Still, I very much look forward to seeing the ATL line-up live with Mortal Sin in a few weeks time.Got free tickets to see Unearth/Atreyu/Norma Jean as well, but I'm only really a fan of Unearth.

Bandit
April 26th, 2005, 6:41 PM
Nemesis... don't talk about Trivium and 3 Inches of Blood, then mention great bands like Necrophagia.

:p

Nemesis
April 28th, 2005, 2:04 AM
Since when is it a crime to listen to stuff you don't take very seriously? :irked:



:ashamed:

Spooney
April 28th, 2005, 2:17 AM
that is exactly the reason I listen to Zimmers Hole

Nemesis
April 28th, 2005, 2:29 AM
I think I'm going to buy some Gorgoroth and Centinex soon. Holy shit, Centinex is goddamn awesome.

Crabby
April 28th, 2005, 11:11 PM
Centinex are indeed awesome, a vastly under-rated band.

Nemesis
May 1st, 2005, 4:31 AM
I agree. Centinex and the word underrated seem to be perfectly synonomous. It's surprising that they're unheard of in Swedish metal, let alone metal in general. Good mix of melody and shredding.

Anyone into Witchery? I've heard a song of theirs before and thought they were mediocre, but I just heard "The Guillotine" and it's great. The dirty rock riff makes it even better.

...and also, just picked up the new Gorgoroth. Good shit. My girlfriend was annoyed by the vocals, which was actually pretty surprising to me, since she's indiffrerent to my collection of CDs.

Jimmy was drunk. So if any of this doesn't make sense, at least there's an excuse.

Cactus Lem
May 1st, 2005, 6:59 AM
Nemesis... don't talk about Trivium and 3 Inches of Blood, then mention great bands like Necrophagia.

:p

Why the fuck don't we just rename this thread the Death, Black and prog metal thread, as anyone who mentions a band who don't come under any of those genre's seems to get a riling.

Bandit
May 1st, 2005, 6:41 PM
Why the fuck don't we just rename this thread the Death, Black and prog metal thread, as anyone who mentions a band who don't come under any of those genre's seems to get a riling.
We mention plenty of bands who fall udner different sub-genres of metal, such as speed, thrash, folk, etc.

It's just when you name gay re-hashed metalcore/hardcore bands.

And besides, I haven't seen anyone get a "riling" for naming bands who don't fall under the given genres.

Unless you call good natured ribbing (I say good natured because of the happy face smilie I posted) a riling.

Aussie_Outlaw
May 2nd, 2005, 3:03 AM
I was in here and talk about power when I can.

Except I havent done so recently.

No idea what you're talking about.

Adamy
May 2nd, 2005, 3:46 AM
folk

"Folk Metal?"

This exists?

Spooney
May 2nd, 2005, 6:10 AM
well, I imagine there have been folk songs on metal albums but I have never heard the two genres combined in a single song, I sure would like to hear it :)

Nemesis
May 2nd, 2005, 12:51 PM
"Folk Metal?"

This exists?

Nokturnal Mortum incorporates Ukrainian folk. I don't know of many other "folk metal" bands, though, unless you count a few Moonspell songs. Or Dia Psalma, though I'm not sure how "metal" they're considered to be..

Adamy
May 2nd, 2005, 1:59 PM
How would you define the genre of Ukranian Folk?

Nemesis
May 2nd, 2005, 2:14 PM
I wouldn't define it as a genre. It's folk from Ukraine. :wtf:

Bandit
May 2nd, 2005, 6:03 PM
Wow... You people who have yet to hear folk metal are missing out A LOT.

Finntroll
Cruachan
Moonsorrow
Dark Moor
Aes Dana

Mira knows more than me probably, but the two I suggest most are Moonsorrow and Finntroll.

For albums, Moonsorrow's is called "Kivenkantaja" and Finntroll's is called "Nattfodd"

If you have AIM instant message me at wTALLESTmidget and I can send you songs.

Crabby
May 3rd, 2005, 11:18 PM
Seeing as I'll be headed to the US for a few weeks for a holiday in July, I also managed to pick up tickets for Ozzfest in Boston as well.Needless to say, the fact that I'll be seeing Maiden and Sabbath in one night is pretty amazing.

Nemesis
May 4th, 2005, 1:05 AM
Anyone listen to SnakeNet Metal Radio? I'm listening to it right now, enjoying the stylings of some nice young men who call themselves Belfegor. :headbang:

SideburnZ
May 4th, 2005, 12:28 PM
For albums, Moonsorrow's is called "Kivenkantaja" and Finntroll's is called "Nattfodd"


Kivenkantaja is one of the greatest albums ever. EVER.

Also, Moonsorrows "Voimasta Ja Kunniasta" and Finntroll's "Jatkens Tidd".

Both also awesome. :yes:

Nemesis
May 7th, 2005, 3:54 AM
My record store finally got that Centinex CD I ordered, and it rules. The first CD I've been really, really excited about for quite a while.

I may have to pick up their Hellbrigade CD next.

Alex E
May 10th, 2005, 2:44 AM
Wow... You people who have yet to hear folk metal are missing out A LOT.

Finntroll
Cruachan
Moonsorrow
Dark Moor
Aes Dana


Finntroll is great, and I like Dark Moor, although I don't know if I'd call them folk metal. There's a good band out of Finland called Wintersun, they're along the lines of Children of Bodom and have folk influences, and one guy does everything but percussion. Speaking of Moonsorrow, I'm doing a radio show in Manitoba right now, and about to play Moonsorrow. Check it on www.ckuw.ca if you want.

SideburnZ
May 10th, 2005, 2:51 AM
The new SYL is amazingly great.

:yes:

Bandit
May 10th, 2005, 7:15 PM
Finntroll is great, and I like Dark Moor, although I don't know if I'd call them folk metal. There's a good band out of Finland called Wintersun, they're along the lines of Children of Bodom and have folk influences, and one guy does everything but percussion. Speaking of Moonsorrow, I'm doing a radio show in Manitoba right now, and about to play Moonsorrow. Check it on www.ckuw.ca if you want.
I've heard Wintersun... or heard of them anyways. I rmember the things I heard were very positive too...

Also, about Dark Moor, I agree. But you coudl definitely call them folk, and since they're on metal-archives, they metal. :p

As for you and the radio station thing, is there any update you can give us as to what nights/times you're on? Because I'd definitely enjoy checking it out, it's just that last time I remember the majority of them being in the very early morning. Anyways, I hope to check one of your shows out. :yes:

Crabby
May 11th, 2005, 7:05 AM
I had free tickets to see Unearth,Atreyu and Norma Jean last night.Average show, but Unearth were damn good and Melbourne band In Name And Blood were cool as well.

I'm also very much looking forward to seeing the classic Anthrax lineup with Mortal Sin supporting this weekend.

Bandit
May 11th, 2005, 4:36 PM
I hope by 'classic' you mean Neil Turbin at vocals...

Cactus Lem
May 11th, 2005, 5:21 PM
I hope by 'classic' you mean Neil Turbin at vocals...

Stop trying to be an eliteist. Everyone knows the classic Anthrax line-up is the Beladonna era Thrax. Turbin was there for what, an EP and an album? As much as I like Turbin's work, Belladona era Anthrax was obviously the most succesful line-up and isn the more likley to be called the classic Anthrax lineup.

Also why would Anthrax do a reunion tour with Turbin when they only made around 10-15 songs with him? With Belladonna they released around 5 albums.

Bandit
May 11th, 2005, 6:20 PM
Hahaha. Oh no, I'm an elitist for claiming Neil Turbin as my favorite vocalist from Anthrax! :eek:

I'm not sure when I said something to make you hate me, but whatever it was, it must have pulled a nerve. Your last few posts have been stuff like "well why don't we just rename the thread to only two genres of metal because I'm angry?!?!?!" and other things negatively connotated towards me.

If it makes you feel better, I'll go listen to a random metalcore band and say their talent is immense.

You need to chill.

Nemesis
May 13th, 2005, 1:08 AM
I hope by 'classic' you mean Neil Turbin at vocals...

I thought you were joking at first...you don't seem like the type that listens to Anthrax.

I've never even heard Turbin before, but I prefer John Bush over Joey Belladonna.

Speaking of vocalists, why the fuck is Atilla back in Mayhem?? He has one of the shittiest voices I've ever heard. Was he drunk when he put the vocals on the album? Hopefully he's improved over the years, because he nearly ruined De Mysteriis...

Well, that and the drums drowning everything else out...

Still a good album, though.

Cactus Lem
May 13th, 2005, 2:06 PM
Hahaha. Oh no, I'm an elitist for claiming Neil Turbin as my favorite vocalist from Anthrax! :eek:

I'm not sure when I said something to make you hate me, but whatever it was, it must have pulled a nerve. Your last few posts have been stuff like "well why don't we just rename the thread to only two genres of metal because I'm angry?!?!?!" and other things negatively connotated towards me.

If it makes you feel better, I'll go listen to a random metalcore band and say their talent is immense.

You need to chill.

The way you said it to him was is if he was a prick becasue he considred Belladonna as part of the classic Anthrax lineup instead of Turbin. Personally I prefer Bush over both Turbin and Joey, but I don't say in a demanding manner, "you better be refering to Bush when you say classic" just becasue he's my favourite Anthrax vocalist.

And when I have refered to a Metalcore band in this thread, for example Killswitch Engage, I get completly slated and you're one of the guys who ussualy has ago. It's as if a band who have been around for under 5 years and who are signed to a major, and have maybe released a single, are forbidden to be mentioned in this thread sometimes.

Nemesis
May 13th, 2005, 2:12 PM
I don't think he really means anything by it. I think he was just name-dropping.

Bandit
May 13th, 2005, 6:44 PM
I thought you were joking at first...you don't seem like the type that listens to Anthrax.
I listen to one Anthrax album, "Fistful of Metal", a.k.a. the only one with Neil Turbin as their vocalist. Other than that album, I'm not a huge fan of Anthrax.

Bandit
May 13th, 2005, 6:49 PM
The way you said it to him was is if he was a prick becasue he considred Belladonna as part of the classic Anthrax lineup instead of Turbin. Personally I prefer Bush over both Turbin and Joey, but I don't say in a demanding manner, "you better be refering to Bush when you say classic" just becasue he's my favourite Anthrax vocalist.

And when I have refered to a Metalcore band in this thread, for example Killswitch Engage, I get completly slated and you're one of the guys who ussualy has ago. It's as if a band who have been around for under 5 years and who are signed to a major, and have maybe released a single, are forbidden to be mentioned in this thread sometimes.
Find a post where I talked down on KsE, I like them. I've seen them live... twice...

Talking to Nemesis as if he's a prick, hahahaha. Me and Nemesis are buds. He has a sense of humor, and doesn't take everything I say so seriously. Unlike other people I know. ;)

If you it makes you feel better, you can offer your opinion when I mention bands you dislike.

Cactus Lem
May 14th, 2005, 2:03 PM
Find a post where I talked down on KsE, I like them. I've seen them live... twice...

Talking to Nemesis as if he's a prick, hahahaha. Me and Nemesis are buds. He has a sense of humor, and doesn't take everything I say so seriously. Unlike other people I know. ;)

If you it makes you feel better, you can offer your opinion when I mention bands you dislike.

I've seen them live twoce as well and will be for a third time in June. KsE was a bad example, but many band's I have mentiond in here before I've been flamed on and told not to post stuff about those sorts of bands in here.

And you don't know me.

Yeh I will in future.

Bandit
May 15th, 2005, 3:59 PM
You need to chill out.

:lol:

Cactus Lem
May 15th, 2005, 6:32 PM
:lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: suck cock

Nemesis
May 16th, 2005, 4:28 AM
Has anyone tried to go on the Type O Negative site lately?

I hope that whole thing is just a joke...

Never mind...I'm pretty sure Peter Steele's not dead.

Simon
May 16th, 2005, 6:17 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: suck cock
Watch the attitude :yes:

Aussie_Outlaw
May 16th, 2005, 7:56 AM
I listen to one Anthrax album, "Fistful of Metal", a.k.a. the only one with Neil Turbin as their vocalist. Other than that album, I'm not a huge fan of Anthrax.

Bandit thats the strangest thing I've ever heard anyone say about Anthrax. You're the first person I've heard who prefers Turbin as their vocalist.

I guess bad luck for you he's barely around then.

Cactus Lem
May 16th, 2005, 11:46 AM
I'll probably get slated for this, but has anyone heard SOAD's new album that came out today Mezmerize?

I just listened to it and I have to say it's complete shit. I can't remember a band releasing an album that they've been concentrating on for so long and making zero progression. SOAD have just not progressed at all in 4 years since the Toxicity. The album's just really boring and predictable.

Most disapointing album released this year.

King101
May 16th, 2005, 7:22 PM
I liked Mesmerize to be honest - Ive only listened to it a few times and it usually takes me a while to fully form an opinion on an album (and i've already started skipping past some tracks - so not a good sign), but I enjoyed it.

At times it seems very obvious that some of the stuff is only there for the purpose of making it a double-disk set but even the weak stuff is listenable.

Daron having a bigger part in the vocals is a big positive and I like the heavy eastern-european feel it has at times.

Definitely no Toxicity - but better than Steal This Album.

Bandit
May 16th, 2005, 10:27 PM
I hate SOAD's vocals, but that's just me.

Then again, I don't think I like anything from SOAD. :\

Nemesis
May 17th, 2005, 1:05 AM
I'm still disappointed that nobody has heard Acid Bath yet. :mad:

Great bunch of guys, they were.

Bandit
May 17th, 2005, 2:37 AM
I'll check em out for ya.

What do they sound like?

Nemesis
May 17th, 2005, 3:02 AM
Some songs sound death metal-ish, and there are a few softer songs. It's hard to describe them, though. They've got sort of a creepy sound.

I think one of the guys from that band is in Goatwhore now.

Ringo
May 20th, 2005, 1:43 PM
Just thought I'd pop in here to say how angered I am by Nevermore's vocals. I'd do anything for them to get a new vocalist. The vocals are fucking shit.

:mad:

Alex E
May 22nd, 2005, 1:21 PM
Think I've already shilled for this, but whatever. If you're up at midnight on monday central time, check out ckuw.ca for the radio show I'm doing...this week I'm covering Sweden, and the band list goes something like this:

Lost horizon
In Flames
Pain of Salvation
Soilwork
Evergrey
Arch enemy
Tad morose
Therion
Dream Evil
Opeth
Falconer
Lake of Tears
Nightingale
Thyrfing
Amon Amarth
Wintersorg
Hammerfall
Dark Tranquility
Manegarm
Duskfall
Skyfire
Candlemass
Nightrage

Bandit
May 22nd, 2005, 9:31 PM
Vintersorg*
:p

Also, I'd be interested to see what In flames song you're going to play.

Alex E
May 24th, 2005, 2:41 AM
I played Embody the Invisible from Colony. Next week is America, I'm still deciding what would be appropriate for that...

Bandit
May 25th, 2005, 6:13 PM
Play a huge block of Symphony X

Aussie_Outlaw
May 28th, 2005, 2:07 AM
I got a copy of OSI's album (Self Titled or Horseshoes & B52's depending on who you ask) for my birthday today from my gf.

What is it?

Lets just say Portnoy, Kevin Moore & Jim Mathos. I'm a fan of Moore's electronic same type shit and mixing this back with metal it should be decent.

I'm sure Throb is jealous :p

NiMMERS
May 28th, 2005, 4:43 AM
This thread still lives....barely.

Get the new Nile album. Beautiful album. Album of the year.

Ulver has been on high rotation lately as well.

Spooney
May 29th, 2005, 11:11 PM
I'm sure Throb is jealous :p

He'd be more jealous that I'm listening to Octavarium right now.

Crabby
May 29th, 2005, 11:30 PM
I D/L "Octavarium" last night- interesting album and a little more mellow than I was expecting, parts of it even sound a little like Muse (not that that's a negative thing).

Also D/L the new Nile which fucking rules and I'm waiting for the new Ulver to do the same as well.

Spooney
May 30th, 2005, 12:02 AM
I really think Octavarium is awesome, it's heaps better than Train of Thought in my humble opinion. Perhaps "The Answer Lies Within" is misplaced on the album and would have been better further towards the end but I don't think it matters

Throb
May 30th, 2005, 9:23 AM
I'm sure Throb is jealous :p

Why should I be jealous when I own a copy of the album already? :D Did you by chance get the special 2-disc edition? It has a cover of 'Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun' that is excellent.

And to those of you who have listened to Octavarium, I'm not jealous for two reasons:
1) There's a chance you are like the many of other morons who downloaded James Labrie's new solo album 'Elements of Persuasion' that was passed off as Octavarium

and

2) With a band that I like as much as DT, I like to make sure that I get the actual copy of the album on the actual release date, it's just fun for me. Plus, I like to make sure I have the absolute best studio quality on it, so I can enjoy the album to its fullest.

Aussie_Outlaw
May 30th, 2005, 9:54 AM
Yeah I do have the 2 disc version. Plus the packing looks fairly cool.

Throb
May 30th, 2005, 10:25 AM
Yes it is. So have you listened to it yet? It's truly a great album.

fear is the mindkiller
May 31st, 2005, 6:26 PM
So yea...I noticed yesterday that Meshuggah has a new album that came out today...first I've heard of it. Anyways, I heard one of the new songs, 'Shed' on MusicChoice this morning. It sounded pretty good, not as crazy as their stuff off of 'Nothing', but that album took me a long time to get into, which isn't necessarily bad, but I digress...

Has anyone heard or purchased their new one yet, and is it worth the buy? I need something new to hold me over for the next week until the new DT album comes out. :)

Alex E
May 31st, 2005, 10:26 PM
I've been fairly impressed with the new releases lately - Dickinson, Dream Theatre (less so), Epica, Brainstorm, Pagan's Mind. Especially Pagan's Mind. If you guys don't know them, they're a Norweigan prog metal band, which is a lot better than it sounds. I've seen them live, and they kick ass.

The new Hammerfall sucked, though.

Discuss.

Ringo
June 1st, 2005, 4:49 AM
I've heard a lot of the new Meshuggah album, and it's fucking brilliant. I'm sure it's not the same as listening to it start to finish with no interruptions, but of what I've heard, I like. I will probably buy it. 'Sum' inparticular I remember being great.

Bandit
June 1st, 2005, 6:28 PM
I just got "Wurdulak - Ceremony in Flames" in the mail from eBay after waiting for about two weeks.

It was worth the wait though. Nothing better than some groovy black metal.

Spooney
June 3rd, 2005, 1:52 AM
1) There's a chance you are like the many of other morons who downloaded James Labrie's new solo album 'Elements of Persuasion' that was passed off as Octavarium
.

hehehe, what sort of mindless twit would fall for that one? This is definitely Octavarium. And I will certainly buy it when it comes out and re-rip it myself in glorious 192kb/s, clearly anyone who did fall for such a thing could seriously not be a real DT fan...

Come to think of it though, do you have Elements of Persuasion? And, if so, is it any good?

Throb
June 3rd, 2005, 8:08 AM
Yep I do have EOP. It's very good, pretty heavy compared to a lot of Labrie's other solo stuff.

Ringo
June 3rd, 2005, 2:02 PM
I was going to make a nice big post here to mark my 6,666th post, but I forgot and kid of missed out on that.

Anyway, A few things considering some great new metal-related albums out around now..

Downloaded new Dream Theater, which sounds pretty awesome so far. May well go and buy the actual thing.
While I was at it I downloaded some stuff from the James LaBrie solo album, also very good. Doesn't touch Petrucci's solo stuff for me so far though.

New Avenged Sevenfold out monday, metal-core I know, and by the sound of it, will be even less metal-orientated as the lead singer has gone for a more 'singing' approach with less screams and shouts. I'll buy it nonetheless, but I'm ready to be dissapointed as the screaming vocals were a very important part of the last album.

Have heard most of the new Meshuggah album, and I fucking love it. I'll probably go on and buy this aswell.

New System Of A Down album is overrated I feel. I was really looking forward to this, Cigaro and BYOB are awesome songs, but the rest of the album failed to live up to my expectations. It has got some great reviews though. Some of Serj's vocals are brilliant, but I don't think the album has the extra something that SOAD and Toxicity had. Seeing them on Sunday which should be good.

I see Mastodon have signed to a major label, Warner Bros. Not sure whether or not this will really be a good thing. I don't particuarly care as long as they don't change much. Seeing them in early July aswell. :yes:

There were more things.. later on

Spooney
June 3rd, 2005, 11:22 PM
Yep I do have EOP. It's very good, pretty heavy compared to a lot of Labrie's other solo stuff.

what in general is it like? I don't have any of his solo stuff and have not heard it so can you give me an idea? I'm assuming some of it is DT like

Throb
June 4th, 2005, 12:49 PM
It's somewhat like DT, but since Labrie's band isn't even near the technical ability level as Petrucci/Portnoy/Myung/Rudess, it's a little less wanky. There are still good instrumental breaks, but it's mainly vocal focused. A lot of EOP is very similar to Train Of Thought's heavy, progressive style, and then a lot of it is just your typical prog rock/melodic type thing. That's about the best I can give you to describe it, you really just need to hear it.

King101
June 5th, 2005, 8:42 PM
While on the topis on Dream Theater - is there any word if they're adding any Uk dates to their fall "Evening with Dream Theater" tour?

Spooney
June 6th, 2005, 5:14 AM
It would be nice if they toured Australia for the first time on their "world tour" but I can't see it happening,... as to your question, I dunno.

I think I will pick up EOP and OSI when I can, OSI sounds good...

Throb
June 9th, 2005, 9:41 PM
Wow, the new DT album is excellent, but I didn't expect anything else. Octavarium is truly one of the greatest songs I've heard. It's definitely a masterpiece. I like it better than A Change Of Seasons in fact.

fear is the mindkiller
June 10th, 2005, 4:42 PM
Wow, the new DT album is excellent, but I didn't expect anything else. Octavarium is truly one of the greatest songs I've heard. It's definitely a masterpiece. I like it better than A Change Of Seasons in fact.

I agree, its very good. The first time I listened to it I wasn't really all that impressed, but after I gave it another couple spins it's really grown on me.

The only really gripe I have, and its a little one, is the drum sound...sounds a little too flat or...I dunno, something...I would expect that with it being produced by Mike and John they would be pretty anal about everything until they got the sound just right, unless this sound is what they were going for...

Also, kinda disappointed with the lack of guitar solos. I guess since Petrucci basically went balls-to-the-wall with the soloing on Train of Thought he decided to cut it back..

All in all though, its a really good album. And you're right, Octavarium is pretty much one of the best songs ever. Gotta love the flute!

Throb
June 10th, 2005, 5:56 PM
Ah, my thoughts are basically the same as yours. When I first listened to it, and didn't just love it, I knew that the album was godly, because every other album was like that at first for me (except TOT) and I now love all of them (except TOT, which is just good, but not great like the rest). I agree about the drum sound, and also a lot of times the vocals get too lost in the music, which for some people who don't like Labrie, is a good thing, but I don't personally like it.

As for the guitar solos, I agree, it almost felt like he was scared to put in solos considering how much he did on TOT, but still, he is godly.

The amount of references in Octavarium (the song) is fucking amazing. If you got the time, go to the mike portnoy message boards and look at the thread that discusses all the little nuggets in the album. It shows how fucking genius of an album it is.

N.E.R.F.
June 10th, 2005, 6:02 PM
I can't believe I don't have it yet :(

Local music store shut down and I have no money in my account to order it over the interweb. Sigh.

QOTSA album is incredible though, if that fits in here.

Throb
June 10th, 2005, 6:34 PM
Dude, if you promise to buy it, I will put it up on Soulseek and let you download it. You freaking have to. HAVE TO DAMMIT!

N.E.R.F.
June 10th, 2005, 7:17 PM
Soulseek doesn't work for me :cry:

I'll persuade my mum to let me have her credit card number or take me into somewhere that'll have it. All things considered I think she'd rather splash out on the extra petrol money. Not that I'm not trustworthy :shifty:

Throb
June 10th, 2005, 7:49 PM
Damn Soulseek is discriminating against you!

Anyway, of course you're trustworthy. :shifty:

Is it just me or does anyone else think DT shouldn't be on this Gigantour thing? I mean, it's them and a bunch of generic metal bands. The fans surely won't appreciate it, and the people that go for DT will be beaten up by the true metalheads, not the "smart fans" that DT addicts tend to be.

N.E.R.F.
June 11th, 2005, 1:44 PM
Got it :D

On I Walk Beside You at the moment, sounding great and I know it's the sort of thing that will grow on me. Can't wait to get to Octavarium :hyper:

Throb
June 11th, 2005, 6:00 PM
OMG, Octavarium is an awesome song! As is Sacrificed Sons.

SideburnZ
June 11th, 2005, 6:05 PM
Dude, if you promise to buy it, I will put it up on Soulseek and let you download it. You freaking have to. HAVE TO DAMMIT!

I'll end up buying it, so let me get it off you now on Soulseek.

N.E.R.F.
June 11th, 2005, 6:10 PM
I'm on the fourth listen already :$

Fucking incredible. Really.

SideburnZ
June 11th, 2005, 6:12 PM
NERf, get on Soulseek so I can get it. :(

Or send over aim.

N.E.R.F.
June 11th, 2005, 6:20 PM
Dunno how quick it'll be (very slow most likely) but I'll see what I can do.

N.E.R.F.
June 11th, 2005, 6:21 PM
As in, I'm on AIM right now and you're not. Got a different account or summat?

McBain
June 11th, 2005, 6:23 PM
New Avenged Sevenfold out monday, metal-core I know, and by the sound of it, will be even less metal-orientated as the lead singer has gone for a more 'singing' approach with less screams and shouts. I'll buy it nonetheless, but I'm ready to be dissapointed as the screaming vocals were a very important part of the last album.


Anyone got hold of this yet? I have.

First impressions: Not as impressed as their last album, the singing approach is not a positive step in my opinion, he ends up sounding whiney and too high pitched sometimes. Whereas on the last album his voice sounded immense I thought.

There are some good high-points, and I'll reserve a proper post until I've given it a consistent amount of listening, perhaps tomorrow.

Spooney
June 11th, 2005, 9:47 PM
re Gigantour. I think DT has such a wide variety of music that they could fit on almost any bill.

Lets say someone has never ever heard them before, then they came out and played The Glass prison, the test that stumped them all, panic attack, beyond this life and As I am in a row, they would say they were a metal band.

My favourites from Octavarium so far is These Walls, no really sure why but I love it. One reason I don't think solos are so prevalent is they are toned down in the mix a bit. panic Attack has some awqesome solos but they're quieter than we're used to.

I have yet to become fully engrossed in the title track btu I am sure I will be,.. better than Change of Seasons though? big call that one...

Throb
June 11th, 2005, 10:20 PM
Yeah, I know it's a big call, but I still stand behind it.

As far as favorite on the album goes, I'll think I'll have to say Sacrificed Sons.

Ringo
June 12th, 2005, 7:50 AM
Anyone got hold of this yet? I have.

First impressions: Not as impressed as their last album, the singing approach is not a positive step in my opinion, he ends up sounding whiney and too high pitched sometimes. Whereas on the last album his voice sounded immense I thought.

There are some good high-points, and I'll reserve a proper post until I've given it a consistent amount of listening, perhaps tomorrow.


Yep. Basically my opinions are exactly the same as yours. It's not their fault that they had to change the vocals approach, but it still sucks. They're very weak I reckon, certainly in comparison to the last album. So yeah, I'm not very impressed at all. However there are a couple of tracks that are growing on me.


Dream Theater, on the other hand. That album is fucking brilliant. 'Octavarium', 'I Walk Beside You' in particular.

McBain
June 12th, 2005, 7:53 AM
It's not their fault that they had to change the vocals approach, but it still sucks.

What do you mean? Were they told to do so? At least their harmonies are still in tact anyway, that's one of their biggest assets I feel.

*Edit - I just read that M. Shadows (the singer) had throat surgery last year to repair a burst blood vessel, is this what you were talking about RM? If so, does this affect his performance of their last album live? Hope not.

Ringo
June 12th, 2005, 8:19 AM
What do you mean? Were they told to do so? At least their harmonies are still in tact anyway, that's one of their biggest assets I feel.

*Edit - I just read that M. Shadows (the singer) had throat surgery last year to repair a burst blood vessel, is this what you were talking about RM? If so, does this affect his performance of their last album live? Hope not.


Yeah, that's what I was referring to. Well if he really can't pull off those screams, I'm guessing he won't be able to do it live. Which is a damn shame. I've seen them a couple of times before, but I definitely want to see them again, they were such an energetic live band. I'm sure they'll still play old material, but really if M.Shadows can't pull off half the vocals, how will they do that?

McBain
June 12th, 2005, 8:26 AM
Yeah, that's what I was referring to. Well if he really can't pull off those screams, I'm guessing he won't be able to do it live. Which is a damn shame. I've seen them a couple of times before, but I definitely want to see them again, they were such an energetic live band. I'm sure they'll still play old material, but really if M.Shadows can't pull off half the vocals, how will they do that?

Wow, this is really disappointing news. But perhaps he can still do the screams when he needs to he just needs to take more care of his vocal chords, so thats why he doesn't scream on the new album - thus decreasing the total amount of screaming he'll have to do at gigs.

I've been reading some reviews. Not particularly kind ones. People saying they've become heavily commercialised and they're playing Glam-Metal stuff to please their big kid following - just chopping out the Hardcore element almost completely. Reviews saying that this new album points towards an attempt at copying GnR. :\

Ringo
June 12th, 2005, 8:41 AM
I think that's going a bit over the top, if these people reviewing the album were real fans they'd know why the album is 'less-hardcore' anyway. The only reason they've done away with the scream vocals is because of M.Shadows' surgery, it's hardly a glam-metal album.
You're always going to get reviews like that anyway when a band that broke through with the previous album release a new one. Bands get slated for going 'commercial' or changing their direction to appeal to more people, but if they'd released an album with no new elements at all, they'd get slated for that because they wouldn't have progressed in any way. The fact that A7X have brought out a 'more commercial' album principally due to their singer fucking his voice up, makes it even more unfair to label the album as 'selling out'.

Listening to 'Eternal Rest' now though, and it certainly makes me wonder what could have been. :(

I just fucking hope Mastodon don't go 'commercial' after signing with Warner Bros...

McBain
June 12th, 2005, 8:47 AM
I'm listening to "Waking the Fallen" right now too, such a ballsy album. Love it.

Cactus Lem
June 16th, 2005, 9:08 AM
I've heard one new AX7 song and I hate it. I know it's not M.Shadows fault, but seriously, if the band want to improve ditch him.

Greed
June 16th, 2005, 11:25 AM
Yup, Avenged Sevenfold's new cd is very different from 'Waking the Fallen'
After a few listens it's bearable for me, some of the songs are quite catchy, I expect them to be on mtv in 2-3 months, but I won't know when they are.
All in all a HUGE step down from WTF.

I heard M. Shadows, my fav. vocalist after WTF, I heard his vocal cords are better. They should have waited a few months so his voice could be 100%. I think it's all a cop out. They signed with Warner and they likely told him to cut out the screaming, in an attempt to make them more applealing to mainstream.

It's sad really, I'll see them at the Warped tour in August, I still appreciate them, but their next cd's I won't shell out the cash for. The change is why I normally don't buy cd's of bands on major record labels. They water down.

City of Evil isn't epic like Waking the Fallen. Here, M. Shadows ranges from strong at points, to cringeworthy..and yes, I see similarities to Guns n Roses now, Seize the Day esp. made me think..wow this sounds like Gun n Roses.

I've read rumors all over the net, including that after his vocal injury, he got voice training from the guy who helped Axyl Rose..
Personally, The band itself amazes me, the guitars and drumming supurb. I think they might need to Replace Matt Shadows to reach their musical potential.

scurvy pirate
June 16th, 2005, 5:29 PM
I can't say I got all the Waking the Fallen hype. It sounded kinda like In Flames, only a hell of a lot slower and completely devoid of any passion or aggression, excrutiatingly paint by numbers stuff at times. It's got some ch00ns, but alot of it seems incredibly meeeeeeeeeeh worthy to me. Still, to each their own.

Pete Cash
June 17th, 2005, 3:49 AM
Hey, I haven't been in this thread for awhile, so for all I know you guys have talked about it before, but:

Have any of you guys heard any Orphaned Land and more in particular their latest album "Mabool- The Story of the Three Sons of Seven" in my opinion it is probably the best album I have ever heard. I would say it is probably a folk metal style, it uses a lot of Arab and Asian influences. Very, very cool.

So yeah if anyone has heard it give me your opinions I guess, if not... get it somehow.

McBain
June 17th, 2005, 3:58 AM
Any of you guys been listening to Trivium recently? I don't really know what genre they'd be classed as but they seem to be getting a lot of support following their set at Download.

I just got hold of their new album.

SerialHunter
June 17th, 2005, 1:24 PM
Any of you guys been listening to Trivium recently? I don't really know what genre they'd be classed as but they seem to be getting a lot of support following their set at Download.

I just got hold of their new album.

I always compared them with early In Flames and Unearth, the new album it's great stuff a band to watch this year.

Bandit
June 18th, 2005, 3:11 AM
Trivium. Dear God.

They're amazing. Can't wait to see them at Ozzfest.

scurvy pirate
June 18th, 2005, 9:31 AM
They sound just like every other Metalcore band that's about at the moment IMO. They were good at Download though.

Bandit
June 18th, 2005, 3:33 PM
They're like an upgraded version though, as in, they're one step ahead of all the other bands out there.

Plus, their singer is only eighteen years old.

Adamy
June 18th, 2005, 6:05 PM
If I listen mostly to screamo and grindcore, would I like them?

Bandit
June 19th, 2005, 2:41 AM
Hmm... you may.

Give them a try at least. They're not very unique, or different in a sense, just very talented.

Alex E
June 19th, 2005, 3:47 AM
Hey, I haven't been in this thread for awhile, so for all I know you guys have talked about it before, but:

Have any of you guys heard any Orphaned Land and more in particular their latest album "Mabool- The Story of the Three Sons of Seven" in my opinion it is probably the best album I have ever heard. I would say it is probably a folk metal style, it uses a lot of Arab and Asian influences. Very, very cool.

So yeah if anyone has heard it give me your opinions I guess, if not... get it somehow.

I have all the albums, and also a ticket in my room to see them in their exclusive North American show :cool:

It takes a while to get into; some of the songs sounded too similar on the first couple of spins. It has good variety though, I like Norra el Norra. I have to say though, the beginning to the cd will put many people off, with the choir...

Pete Cash
June 19th, 2005, 9:34 AM
I have only heard Mabool.

So you would say their first two albums would be worth picking up, I heard they are fairly different to Mabool, which wouldn't bother me, so long as the quality of the albums were the same

Deathcow
June 20th, 2005, 12:45 AM
In my absence from posting here at the boards...I've started listening to some awesome bands. Amon Amarth...Bleeding Through...Caliban...Heaven Shall Burn...the list goes on.

I'm starting to appreciate more heavy stuff, and all this screamo shit is really getting on my nerves. My heart fills with rage whenever I hear Hawthorne Heights or Underoath my heart fills with rage.

darkhorse
June 20th, 2005, 10:11 AM
Any of you guys been listening to Trivium recently?

Haven't listened to them in a while, but when I first got "Ascendancy" I couldn't stop listening to it.

Nemesis
June 21st, 2005, 2:33 AM
Trivium. Dear God.

They're amazing. Can't wait to see them at Ozzfest.

:wtf: Are you serious?

I mean, that single they have, I think it's decent, but that entire post sounds very much unlike you.

Also, that band looks like a group of dorks, which is pretty cool in itself.

Cactus Lem
June 21st, 2005, 7:35 AM
Trivium are fucking amazing. Anbd why the hell are people in this thread calling them 'Metalcore'? They have no elemnet of Hardcore in their sound, so they aren't 'Metalcore'.

I saw them at Downlaod and they were amazing.

Also the vocalist is now 19.

Throb
June 21st, 2005, 10:12 AM
Hey, I haven't been in this thread for awhile, so for all I know you guys have talked about it before, but:

Have any of you guys heard any Orphaned Land and more in particular their latest album "Mabool- The Story of the Three Sons of Seven" in my opinion it is probably the best album I have ever heard. I would say it is probably a folk metal style, it uses a lot of Arab and Asian influences. Very, very cool.

So yeah if anyone has heard it give me your opinions I guess, if not... get it somehow.

I just got this album, and wow. This is great stuff. :yes:

Bandit
June 21st, 2005, 1:23 PM
:wtf: Are you serious?

I mean, that single they have, I think it's decent, but that entire post sounds very much unlike you.

Also, that band looks like a group of dorks, which is pretty cool in itself.
I'm dead serious... they're really good Nemesis...

The single you're talking about is Pull Harder on the Strings of Your Martyr, right? Go listen to the solo in "Like Light to Flies" or the breakdown in "Rain" or the opening riff in "Declaration" or the drumming on "A Shot to the Head of Trepidation". Basically, that album is pure greatness.

scurvy pirate
June 21st, 2005, 1:57 PM
I wish people would stop pointing out how old one of them is. It doesn't change how their music sounds. It's a lame justification for liking such an average band.

And since when do Genres have to make sense ? The particular genre they belong to is known as Metalcore, so they get called Metalcore, simple no ? And there's currently 324 bands doing exactly the same thing.

Bandit
June 21st, 2005, 5:38 PM
Name a band that sounds just like them.

Also, while we're talking of unique bands, why don't you list some of your favorites. This could be interesting.

Psycho Hank
June 21st, 2005, 5:40 PM
Is the band Trivium any good? I heard a song of their's on TV, but I want to know about their other stuff.

EDIT: Woops, didn't see you were just talking about them....

Bandit
June 21st, 2005, 6:04 PM
Hahahha.

Yes, they're good.

Psycho Hank
June 21st, 2005, 6:26 PM
I really like Ashes of the Wake by Lamb of God. Um, I've also been listening to Killswitch Engage, the Haunted, and Six Feet Under a lot. And of course there is Slayer. As for other metal, I don't really know much, I'm trying to expand.

scurvy pirate
June 21st, 2005, 6:33 PM
Name a band that sounds just like them.

Also, while we're talking of unique bands, why don't you list some of your favorites. This could be interesting.

Turn on your televivision and flick to a rock channel. There's a ton of bands with this Trivum,Killswitch,Shadows Fall type of sound. That all work on the same Spiky melodic verse,soaring vocal chorus,breakdown and a solo, system. I'm not saying a band has to be unique to be good, but I just don't see why they stand out from all the others,they just seem to do things abit faster. I'm open for change though, what do you think makes them stand out ? Reccomend me some top notch tracks.

Some favourite metal bands - 65 Days of Static, Opeth, Porcupine Tree, Pain of Salvation, Manowar, Meshuggah.

Psycho Hank
June 21st, 2005, 6:37 PM
Hey, what's the opinion on Lordi? I freakin' love them.

Cactus Lem
June 21st, 2005, 7:01 PM
Turn on your televivision and flick to a rock channel. There's a ton of bands with this Trivum,Killswitch,Shadows Fall type of sound. That all work on the same Spiky melodic verse,soaring vocal chorus,breakdown and a solo, system. I'm not saying a band has to be unique to be good, but I just don't see why they stand out from all the others,they just seem to do things abit faster. I'm open for change though, what do you think makes them stand out ? Reccomend me some top notch tracks.


KsE solos!? No they don't solo. Shadows Fall, Trivium and KsE don't sound anything like each other. Shadows Fall have very different type of 'Solo' sound to Trivium, and have far more agressive vocals at times. KsE are just nothing like either of the two.

Go Download

Shadows Fall - Root Bound Apolo
Trivium - Rain, Like Light To Flys, Pull Harder on the Strings of Your Martyr, The Decieved
KsE - Numbred Days, My Last Serenade, When Darkness Falls

scurvy pirate
June 21st, 2005, 7:13 PM
I'd say it was a reeeeeal stretch to say they sound nothing like each other, to me their base elements are all really similair. Having different sounding solos and more aggressive vocals doesn't mean they can't sound the same. I probabaly agree about KsE on second thought though.

Psycho Hank
June 21st, 2005, 9:18 PM
Is DevilDriver any good? I bought Devil's Son on Itunes cause I remember seeing them on Headbanger's Ball. I quite like it.

Adamy
June 22nd, 2005, 1:41 AM
I'm starting to appreciate more heavy stuff, and all this screamo shit is really getting on my nerves. My heart fills with rage whenever I hear Hawthorne Heights or Underoath my heart fills with rage.

That's not really screamo. Stuff like City Of Caterpillar or Orchid is screamo.

Alex E
June 22nd, 2005, 3:32 AM
Hey, what's the opinion on Lordi? I freakin' love them.

They grew on me...they're not the metal I usually listen to, but I have to appreciate a song like "The devil's a loser...and he's my bitch!" I'd definately throw their name out there for people who like hard rock and metal.

Nemesis
June 22nd, 2005, 7:47 PM
I'm dead serious... they're really good Nemesis...


Just had to give you shit about Trivium, since you gave me shit about Trivium. :p


Is DevilDriver any good? I bought Devil's Son on Itunes cause I remember seeing them on Headbanger's Ball. I quite like it.

They're not bad. Dez does pretty good vocals with them (and really awful lyrics), and their sound is decent enough.

I'm still amazed at how awesome of a performance Dez did at Ozzfest, though. The album doesn't do him as much justice.

Bandit
June 22nd, 2005, 7:49 PM
Just had to give you shit about Trivium, since you gave me shit about Trivium. :p
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That was before I gave them a proper listen, when all I had heard was part of "Pull Harder on the Strings of your Martyr". I'm willing to accept the fact I was wrong. :$

Nemesis
June 26th, 2005, 11:16 PM
My sister's neighbor just gave me a bunch of CDs he didn't want anymore. Here's what I got:

Deicide - Once Upon the Cross
Entombed - Wolverine Blues and Clandestine
Nasum - Human 2.0
God Forbid - Determination
Gorguts - Considered Dead
Integrity - Systems Overload
Goatwhore - The Eclipse of Ages Into Black
Epidemic - Exit Paradise
Lungbrush - Old School New School

Right now I'm listening to Once Upon the Cross, and it's better than Serpents of the Light. So now I have those two, and Scars of the Crucifix. That might be all the Deicide I need, since their other CDs are supposed to be shitty.

Dave
June 28th, 2005, 3:10 PM
Some favourite metal bands - 65 Days of Static65dos metal? Interesting - would definitely class them as post-rock, not metal.

Nemesis
June 28th, 2005, 10:13 PM
Listened to God Forbid yesterday...actually wasn't all that bad. I wasn't expecting much after their Ozzfest performance last summer.

The Lungbrush CD sucked...

So far the Epidemic CD is awesome. I was expecting slow stuff like Crowbar after hearing track 1, but it's pretty varied. I like it.

McBain
June 29th, 2005, 5:31 AM
65dos metal? Interesting - would definitely class them as post-rock, not metal.

Ditto.

Bandit
June 30th, 2005, 5:33 PM
Just got Cattle Decapitation - Humanure today... was told it was more like metalcore. Ends up that, this album anyways, is terrific death metal.

:yes:

SerialHunter
June 30th, 2005, 8:37 PM
Just got Cattle Decapitation - Humanure today... was told it was more like metalcore. Ends up that, this album anyways, is terrific death metal.

:yes:
aren't those guys a ripoff Carnival Corpse? i mean even their album covers look similar

Bandit
June 30th, 2005, 9:03 PM
Their album covers look the same... so that makes them a ripoff? Okay.

SerialHunter
June 30th, 2005, 9:08 PM
no, also the music, well at least in "To Serve Man"

Nemesis
June 30th, 2005, 9:20 PM
The Cattle Decapitation songs I've heard are very limited, but I never thought they sounded like Cannibal Corpse. :dunno:

Bandit
June 30th, 2005, 9:24 PM
The album I heard would only really be limited in the percussion area... guitar playing was quite decent, and vocals were very good... great range of screaming.

Deathcow
July 7th, 2005, 6:37 PM
I really like Ashes of the Wake by Lamb of God. Um, I've also been listening to Killswitch Engage, the Haunted, and Six Feet Under a lot. And of course there is Slayer. As for other metal, I don't really know much, I'm trying to expand.

Fuck, I love you. Have my babies now.

And Bandit, Trivium isn't anything to get that excited about. All their songs pretty much sound the same (for the most part). It might just be that I overlistened to their CD, I don't know, but they're not anything to orgasm over.

Adamy
July 7th, 2005, 6:43 PM
aren't those guys a ripoff Carnival Corpse? i mean even their album covers look similar

I think they're a Locust side-project.

Bandit
July 7th, 2005, 8:45 PM
Fuck, I love you. Have my babies now.

And Bandit, Trivium isn't anything to get that excited about. All their songs pretty much sound the same (for the most part). It might just be that I overlistened to their CD, I don't know, but they're not anything to orgasm over.
Heh. Okay Deathcow.

Rain, Like Light to Flies, and Declaration sound so close you can't tell them apart! :rolleyes:

Tempest
July 7th, 2005, 8:47 PM
If sex was a song, it would be Banish From Sanctuary - Blind Guardian

...I had to say it :$

Kunt 4 Life
July 8th, 2005, 3:43 PM
Anyone here heard Tony Iommis new 'solo' album with glenn hughes? Downloaded it fucking ages ago and i think next weeks its offical release date.

Worth checking out, hard to belive that both them guys are near enough 60 and it beats the shit out of stuff released today.

SerialHunter
July 8th, 2005, 8:19 PM
New Iommi rules!

Kunt 4 Life
July 9th, 2005, 9:06 AM
read in an interview that after he's finisahed with the ozzfest/sabbath dates him and Glenn are gonna tour. And he mentioned that he would love to have GZR playing with them :headbang:

Now that would be one fucking show.