Metal Discussion Thread

[Crabby]

Play some Black Majesty and Dungeon,great Aussie power metal bands.

[JIJ]

Puddle of Mudd :beer:

[Crabby]

I really,really hope that's a joke.

Mick will soon contribute a number of obscure power metal bands for your show as well.I can guarantee it. :cool:

[JIJ]

Nah.

Blurry is an unbelievable song.

[Crabby]

So you're into the really,really brutal stuff like Godsmack?

[JIJ]

Godsmack??

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I think he's hunting for a response.

Since I'm bored I'll give it to him.

You know what JIJ, fuck you, piss off with your lite soft rock bullshit because as everyone who is sane and has taste, Puddle of Mudd are fucking morons who couldnt write a decent song to save themselves. Well that do you expect when they're discovered by aman who has less respect than Avril Lavigne.

Wow they gave him a demo tape at a gig (through the sec guard) and before you know it they're wallowing in medocrity. Still fuck them.

So JIJ either stop trying to stir otherwise well... I guess thats ban worthy if you continue.

[JIJ]

I think he's hunting for a response.

Since I'm bored I'll give it to him.

You know what JIJ, fuck you, piss off with your lite soft rock bullshit because as everyone who is sane and has taste, Puddle of Mudd are fucking morons who couldnt write a decent song to save themselves. Well that do you expect when they're discovered by aman who has less respect than Avril Lavigne.

Wow they gave him a demo tape at a gig (through the sec guard) and before you know it they're wallowing in medocrity. Still fuck them.

So JIJ either stop trying to stir otherwise well... I guess thats ban worthy if you continue.

:wtf:

I like them.

How's that ban worthy?

Get over it.....

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Well considering you come into a METAL thread to talk about something WHICH ISN'T METAL but actually mainstream rock, I don't see how you could actually be under the impression you were trying to make conversation, but actually trying to stir shit.

Unless of course you're a complete moron. And I haven't ruled out that possibility.

So posting away from the asylum trying to cause trouble is ban worthy if it continues.

So basically if you're not going to talk about metal, FUCK OFF!

[JIJ]

Well considering you come into a METAL thread to talk about something WHICH ISN'T METAL but actually mainstream rock, I don't see how you could actually be under the impression you were trying to make conversation, but actually trying to stir shit.

Unless of course you're a complete moron. And I haven't ruled out that possibility.

So posting away from the asylum trying to cause trouble is ban worthy if it continues.

So basically if you're not going to talk about metal, FUCK OFF!

:\

Thought it was metal.

And chill.......

[Alex E]

He could have thought he talking about metal. One thing I've noticed by now is that us metalheads have COMPLETELY skewered views on what Joe on the street considers loud and hard. I made a friend a metal cd to get her into it, and I only put on soft, slower songs so she'd be more receptive, and it she still couldn't handle it. And don't go saying "well, she's stupid". It's been done with countless other people. I'd considered Kamelot, for instance, to be relatively light stuff, whereas pop fans would think of it as really heavy metal.
Speaking for myself, I was introduced to metal through Blind Guardian. At that point, I thought Children of Bodom were unlistenably heavy. Now they're one of my favorite bands, especially after seeing them live. It takes time to adjust.

So keep those poor, uninformed souls in mind.

And another example: the quarterback on our football team bragged about Hammerfall and acted like it was mindblowingly brutal. He talked about listening to "gothic warrior metal". That, and G&R. :lol:

[Ringo]

I Know. It's weird. Once, there were certain bands I thought were really 'HEAVY METAL'. Then I jeard stuff like The Bezerker, Cannibal Corpse... Even that doesnt really sound 'heavy' anymore. I guess nothing does..

[SideburnZ]

Metal rocks. Anyone hear this new hardcore band called "Good Charolette"?

They're like hardcore metal punk with an edge. :headbang:

[Ms. Morningstar]

What's funny about that is that I have a cousin who says Good Charlotte is the heaviest thing she's ever heard. :nono:

[McBain]

Metal rocks. Anyone hear this new hardcore band called "Good Charolette"?

They're like hardcore metal punk with an edge. :headbang:

:rofl:

I read an article that said lostprophets are the 'new Good Charlotte'. :nono:

[SideburnZ]

What's funny about that is that I have a cousin who says Good Charlotte is the heaviest thing she's ever heard. :nono:


You should wait till she sleeps, put headphones on her ears and blast Gorelord really loudly.

[NiMMERS]

I really,really hope that's a joke.

Mick will soon contribute a number of obscure power metal bands for your show as well.I can guarantee it. :cool:

What's an obscure power metal band? They don't exist. Because all power metal sounds the same. Muahaha.

Brendo, I was talking about BHBS before. Not Kse.



Metal rocks. Anyone hear this new hardcore band called "Good Charolette"?

They're like hardcore metal punk with an edge. :headbang:

Mate, this whole routine you do every now and then such as above is so fucking stale.

[Crabby]

What's an obscure power metal band? They don't exist. Because all power metal sounds the same. Muahaha.

Brendo, I was talking about BHBS before. Not Kse.





I figured you were,Dennis,I just wanted to clear that up as I believe you had your wires crossed,so to speak.

But Spirals is still a killer album.

I think we can forgive JIJ,considering that for a lot of people,their definition of heavy music is the likes Puddle Of Bizkit or Korn.

[SideburnZ]

Mate, this whole routine you do every now and then such as above is so fucking stale.


As long as people come in to say Puddle of Mudd are metal I'll continue doing it. Dislike it, blow me. :heart:

[Nemesis]

Woohoo. Until this weekend, I almost forgot how much Acid Bath kicks ass. :headbang:

[cobra]

I am at my dad's and he has DSL so I downloaded some KillSwitch Engage and they are fucking awsome. I have heard bits and peices of there songs but never a full one and they are fucking great

Also what are other good Metal bands

[SideburnZ]

I got Dark Tranquillity - The Gallery. Awesome stuff.
Satyricon - Rebel Extravaganza. Also awesome.
Norther - I forget the CD name...but it has a cover of The Final Countdown. :drool:

[Crabby]

I am at my dad's and he has DSL so I downloaded some KillSwitch Engage and they are fucking awsome. I have heard bits and peices of there songs but never a full one and they are fucking great

Also what are other good Metal bands

If you dig KSE try the likes of Soilwork,In Flames,Disammonia Mundi,Chimaira and At The Gates.

[NiMMERS]

As long as people come in to say Puddle of Mudd are metal I'll continue doing it. Dislike it, blow me. :heart:

As long as you're amusing yourself, I guess that's the main thing. But who laughs at their own jokes? :heart:

[WizoOzz]

I got Dark Tranquillity - The Gallery. Awesome stuff.


Well, it's about damned time, Burnzy. Didn't I recommend this to you, like, 500 posts ago? ;)

Anywho, for Father's Day, my g/f got me some really neat-o torpedo metal-related stuff. So, I'll share.

She got me (earlier in the month) the new KsE which, needless to say, is a masterpiece. I've listened to it since it was purchased (she got it for me early b/c I just couldn't live without it) which was the week after it came out, and I hadn't taken it out of the CD player until Friday of last week when I had an inkling to listen to As the Palaces Burn.

Speaking of Lamb of God, she got me a cool LoG tee (The "Pure American Metal" one, which she's been wearing as well as she prefers my shirts over her own) and the DVD (which I believe is called Terror & Hubris), and that, of course, is awesome as well.

She got me the Slayer DVD (which I attempted to watch while my son was napping yesterday), and from what I've seen of it, it rules as well.

She got me the new Machine Head, and I've yet to listen to it.

I was also given Avenged Sevenfold's newest album. And while I'm being a critic, I want to preface by saying that its not a bad album. Not by any means. It's got tons of cool riffs, tons of cools Maiden-esque parts, the heavy parts are really great, and it's not a terrible album by any means. After a few listens, I'm sure that I'll get into it more.

But...

It just sounds to me like they're trying to be a less-heavy Killswitch Engage. Their stuff is more radio-friendly than KsE, and don't get me wrong, it's a really good album. But it's just lacking something. They need just one tiny little component that they're missing, and they'd be really awesome. I can hear tons of their influences in their music, but they just need something small to make it their own. I can't really put my finger on it, it's something intangible.

I can hear Maiden in them, and I can hear the Swedish scene in there as well as some of the newer-stuff that's impacted upon them. They sound like a good band. They just need to add a little more punch to make them a great band. (I'm thinking that they need to take two doses of Slayer and call in the morning).

[scurvy pirate]

Got the new Nightwish album today. Its probably my favourite behind Ocean born. IMO theres barely a weak song on it,even if my dad does insist on saying it sounds like "the darkness with a woman" .

[Ringo]

It's barely metal. A review I read described it is sounding like a Lord Of The Rings soundtrack. It's decent though.

[Ringo]

I got Dark Tranquillity - The Gallery. Awesome stuff.
Satyricon - Rebel Extravaganza. Also awesome.
Norther - I forget the CD name...but it has a cover of The Final Countdown. :drool:

You seem to have alot of spare cash. You seem to buy about 3 CD's daily.




By The Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay, Whatever you do make sure everyone checks out 'Revenge I Seek' By Bleeding Through. :yes: It's Fucking Brilliant.

[NiMMERS]

Fuck Newcastle and it's lack of classic Morbid Angel.

I don't really have anywhere else I can go round here where I can get some. All I have is the 'F' and 'H' albums, they're not exactly considered great by MA's standards, but it's still decent.

I hear Pete Sandoval is keen on getting the lads together for another Terrorizer album (I got the debut album the other day, awesome old school grind).

[Crabby]

I finally picked up the latest Iced Earth album, as well as S.O.D.'s "Speak English Or Die".Both pretty good albums,although the IE album has a little too much guitar wankery.

Wizz,I think you'll be surprised when you hear the latest Machine Head.

[SideburnZ]

You seem to have alot of spare cash. You seem to buy about 3 CD's daily.



Yeah, I buy them.

[Ms. Morningstar]

Last Cd's I got were Nevermore- Dreaming Neon Black and Blind Guardian- A Night at the Opera.

[Bandit]

Yeah, I buy them.
From where, BurnZ? ;)

Psst, you still have to "buy" 'For All Tid' from me.

-EDIT- The "Norther" album is titled "Dreams of Endless War", did you like it?

[SideburnZ]

From where, BurnZ? ;)

Psst, you still have to "buy" 'For All Tid' from me.

-EDIT- The "Norther" album is titled "Dreams of Endless War", did you like it?


Haha.

And yeah, It's sweet. I love COB so of course I loved it.

The Final Countdown cover made me spew.

[Bandit]

How many times? Eight? Nine? :hyper:

[Bloodied Fox]

Greatest... Cover... Ever!!!

[Alex E]

Last Cd's I got were Nevermore- Dreaming Neon Black and Blind Guardian- A Night at the Opera.

DNB was ok...

A Night at the Opera was great, and definately an evolution of the BG sound. I'd listen to it more nowadays, but I overdosed on BG a while ago when I was first getting into metal. I like them a lot, but not every mix cd has them on now. Battlefield, Soulforged and Punishment Divine are all great tracks...

*plug*And speaking of Nightwish, check out my review.

[Ms. Morningstar]

DNB was ok...

A Night at the Opera was great, and definately an evolution of the BG sound. I'd listen to it more nowadays, but I overdosed on BG a while ago when I was first getting into metal. I like them a lot, but not every mix cd has them on now. Battlefield, Soulforged and Punishment Divine are all great tracks...

*plug*And speaking of Nightwish, check out my review.
Well so far, I like Dreaming Neon Black a lot, more than Enemies Of Reality actually.

And yeah A Night at the Opera rules. I like as much as Nightfall in Middle Earth.

[GameOver!]

Greatest... Cover... Ever!!!Hang on. Were you talking Virgin Killers or Blind Faith?

I'm confused now. :beer:

[Monkey]

Fuck I haven't been around here in a while!

I just trawled through pages of gibberish, and got nothin from any of it :P

Although, I did notice Mick givin S.O.A.D a serve and saying that they weren't metal (enough) so we shouldn't be discussing 'em here. Yet just the day before that there was two pages of responses on Arseknot!

Figure that one out!

But in about 10 pages of posts I noticed not one single "IMHO", "...anyway" or "there ya go" from you know who ;)

Although this quote bothered me greatly...


So you're into the really,really brutal stuff like Godsmack?

Fuck! Why don't we just through Vanilla Ice in there and we can all have a good fuckin laugh!

I'm back anyway, not that anyone here woulda noticed me gone since I don't post much....lol
look over <-- there for proof of that....

Currently listening to:

KSE - The End Of Heartache
Darkane - Expanding Senses
Chimaira - The Impossibility Of Reason
Rhapsody - Rain Of A Thousnad Flames
Raunchy - Confusion Bay

[NiMMERS]

Monkey, you missed out on a awesome gig last Friday night. Awesome sound!

The highlight had to be the airing of Ackling's 6 minute epic...'Spite'. It demands to be heard. Plus the Ducks Nuts was across the road so many a $2 schooey was had.

Had to better than going to Sydney and watching the Knights get their arses flogged by the Roosters.

[Monkey]

Hardly!
I payed for no beer or food and had a top night rippin off the Roosters supporters for lookin more bogna like than anyone in Newcastle wood.

Plus I got to drink Crownies and hold onto the boses daughter all night to stop her from fainting from seeing the players in the warm up pool, etc.....

I love corporate boxes.....
Might see if I can swing you a tix next time bud

[Crabby]

Last Cd's I got were Nevermore- Dreaming Neon Black and Blind Guardian- A Night at the Opera.


DNB's a great album- probably not up there with Dead Heart but still well worth picking up anyway.

Monks,I hope you realise the Godsmack stuff was a joke.But I've got the new Raunchy,it's a pretty good album even if it isn't the most original album you'll hear.

I also somehow managed to beone of the winners of Haugy's Heavy Metal Trivia.So I'll be receieving something next week.

[Alex E]

Hmm...I liked New Age Messiah by Edguy, but do you guys think I'd get in too much trouble for playing it on radio, even after midnight? I love the song, but it's a bit questionable. It'd be hilarious anyway...

[QuietStorm]

Are you able to edit out the "Pardon fucking me, who the fucking fuck is Jesus..." part? If so then yes. If not then no.

Or just cut the song off before it gets to that part.

[Ms. Morningstar]

DNB's a great album- probably not up there with Dead Heart but still well worth picking up anyway.Well out of the three I have (EOR, DNB, and DHIADW), Dead Heart is my favorite. Dreaming Neon Black is almost as good though, The Death of Passion is better than about half of DHIADW.

*And today I bought Falconer- Sceptre of Deception

[Alex E]

Are you able to edit out the "Pardon fucking me, who the fucking fuck is Jesus..." part? If so then yes. If not then no.

Or just cut the song off before it gets to that part.

I actually wanted it for that specific part :lol:
I am allowed to play songs with fuck in them, i.e. Needled 24/7 by Children of Bodom. I'm just wondering if most people would consider it going too far...

[NiMMERS]

Hardly!
I payed for no beer or food and had a top night rippin off the Roosters supporters for lookin more bogna like than anyone in Newcastle wood.

Plus I got to drink Crownies and hold onto the boses daughter all night to stop her from fainting from seeing the players in the warm up pool, etc.....

I love corporate boxes.....
Might see if I can swing you a tix next time bud

It'd be great if you could hook me up with a ticket!

But you HAVE to hear Pete's song. It's a massive, mammoth, monolithic exercise in metal.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I have some kind of feeling I'm going to listening to alot of Queensryche over the next month. I don't know why but its just a feeling I get.

hmm... Mindcrime.

[Crabby]

Have you heard the new live album yet Dave?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

No, I'm more interested in hearing Dream Evil's The Book Of Heavy Metal.

[Crabby]

Haha,what I've heard of that album is hilarious,but in a good way.

[Alex E]

No, I'm more interested in hearing Dream Evil's The Book Of Heavy Metal.

Don't lose any sleep over it. I have it, and although I haven't been able to sit through it all, I can say that the first 5 tracks aren't great. They're certainly not bad, but they've done much better in the past with their first 2 albums. There isn't even anything particularly uptempo, or even really funny like the "I am his wife" line.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I won't, I'll be losing sleep over the Edguy gig on Sunday.

Where I'm meeting my mate Glen there and getting another 14 cds. Ah Glen is awesome. As am I... well I'm giving him shit too.

Bring on Sunday!

Oh and Happy Birthday NiMMERS.

[Bandit]

*got Black Sabbath: Best of* :hyper:

[Grimario]

Happy Birthday Nimmers you Hungarian Schmuck!

Have about 50 for me and another 500 for yourself tonight and throw in 22 birthday spews :yes:

Nimmers has been getting me into more metal recently... newest Killswitch Engage, Testament, Arcturus and Into Eternity. Good listening

[Crabby]

Dream Evil are just taking the piss so if you don't take em' too seriously you'll probably enjoy em' anyway.

Nice work Grim and Happy Birthday to Dennis as well.

[fear is the mindkiller]

Mike Inez sighting last night on Conan playing bass for....Heart? :wtf:

[Alex E]

Happy Birthday Nimmers you Hungarian Schmuck!

Have about 50 for me and another 500 for yourself tonight and throw in 22 birthday spews :yes:

Nimmers has been getting me into more metal recently... newest Killswitch Engage, Testament, Arcturus and Into Eternity. Good listening

I'm very, very glad that Into Eternity are making it big, and playing some big festivals in Europe. Especially since I got Tim's number before he got the big gigs, and he pretty much agreed to do a live radio performance. If that happens soon, I'll make mention of it here and post the link for the live webcast. I'll be seeing them in Atlanta for Progpower USA 5, and I wish they would get more than an opening slot.

And what's this I hear about an Edguy US tour? It appears they'll be doing more than the PP show. Oh man, if Nightwish and Edguy are in the same city at once...

:hyper: :headbang:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

http://www.roadrun.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=24107

German power metallers EDGUY have scheduled a one-off West Coast U.S. date on September 19 at the Key Club in Hollywood, California. Tickets for the L.A. concert will go on sale next week. A New York City show will take place a few days earlier.

Dunno about anything else atm.

[Kris]

Dunno about anything else atm.

I want them to come to the bastard UK :(

[Bandit]

Hollywood? :eek:

That's like an hour away from me!

EDGUYYYYYY

[Steve_the_great]

I can sum up metal in one sentence......sucks balls

[Ms. Morningstar]

Umm, "Sucks Balls" is not a sentence.

[QuietStorm]

That isn't really a sentence you know.

And I am gonna report you to Simon. He can have you banned forever you know.

Edit: Mira, why you gotta be so quick? :$

[Ms. Morningstar]

Edit: Mira, why you gotta be so quick? :$
Ha.

[Steve_the_great]

Thats my opinion of metal and I'm sticking to it

[TRO]

Maybe you should just make one big "Steve_the_great's Shitass Opinions" thread instead of gaying up all these perfectly good threads...

[Steve_the_great]

Maybe you should just make one big "Steve_the_great's Shitass Opinions" thread instead of gaying up all these perfectly good threads...

Maybe I will assclown, and then while I'm at it the first topic will be faggots who listen to metal and your name will be at the top of list

[Ms. Morningstar]

You don't like Metal, we get it. Good for you. :yes:

[Kunt 4 Life]

he's right you know. Metal is shit. Lets not listen to it no more cos its blantly just making us all gay.

back form metallica today- excellent show.

whiskey in the fucking jar :headbang:

[NiMMERS]

I can sum up metal in one sentence......sucks balls

Stephen, the same could be said about yourself couldn't it? Don't bother replying to me, you've most likely got a mouthful right now. Enjoy!

[Steve_the_great]

Stephen, the same could be said about yourself couldn't it? Don't bother replying to me, you've most likely got a mouthful right now. Enjoy!

If Forums are used to voice opinions and this is obviously a topic on metal i voiced my opinion on the metal genre....sucks.....now Nimmers and metal have alot in common they both "suck"......

[SideburnZ]

What music DO you like?

[QuietStorm]

He like the Beatles. The fucking Beatles. And I don't think he likes anything past the 70's. Another fucking hippie.

[Ms. Morningstar]

If Forums are used to voice opinions and this is obviously a topic on metal i voiced my opinion on the metal genre....sucks.....now Nimmers and metal have alot in common they both "suck"......
Only losers voice their opinions by saying "It sucks balls, that's why"

[toysailor]

Only losers voice their opinions by saying "It sucks balls, that's why"

:yes:

As a musician myself, I really disliked blind commentry:

Me: Why do you think this 'sucked donkey balls'?

General Response of the Inarticulate/Bigoted/etc. etc.
: It just sucks.....

Surely you have to give some REAL reason as to why you don't like a certain genre of music yes? :wtf:

[Sweet Stan]

And I don't think he likes anything past the 70's.

Thats being kind , If anything he only likes the first 3 or 4 years from that decade.

Hell even my dad likes music made after that & he`s pushing 60.

[Monkey]

(.... back in the normal world where you ignore morons)

I aquired the new Slipknot album in order to see if it really was any good. (hey, I give just about everything a chance to have some kind of appeal. I might at least learn what NOT to do in my own music)

So far I'm about 5 songs into it, and although there has been one semi-decent song thus far, on thw whole it's not much better than Iwoa was.

The actual music itself has improved, and Corey has learnt how to actually sing, which is to probably compensate for his lack of a quality screaming voice, but most of the riffs sound borrowed. Like the current song, Opium Of The People, sounds entirley too much like S.O.A.D. at the beginning, with all the stop-start stuff.

So far, I wouldn't rate it as much as others have, but lets see if it improves through the second half of the album first.

note to steve,
The above is an example of constructive criticism. Learn the difference and come back after you ask your English teacher what the above words mean.

[NiMMERS]

If Forums are used to voice opinions and this is obviously a topic on metal i voiced my opinion on the metal genre....sucks.....now Nimmers and metal have alot in common they both "suck"......

Now look what you done. You just had to go and hurt my feelings didn't you?

I suck and I suck well....but we're probably on different pages altogether where you're probably talking about smoking manpole, but my gate don't swing that way so I'll leave that to you if that's your thing....most likely is because it seems sucking and all it's derivitives are a major feature of your vocabulary.

Dude, if you want to come in here and fixate on things sucking, do it constructively.

Does anyone here listen to Pig Destroyer? They're the most dirty, disghusting and perverted thing I've heard in a while. With lyrical content dealing with sex, rape and horror and playing a lovely mix of grind, thrash, death and punk it's a great mixture. A band right up Burnz's alley I reckon.

[Crabby]

I've heard their cover of Helmet's "In The Meantime",it sounded pretty cool.Funnily enough Soulfly also covered it on their latest album.

[Steve_the_great]

:yes:

As a musician myself, I really disliked blind commentry:

Me: Why do you think this 'sucked donkey balls'?

General Response of the Inarticulate/Bigoted/etc. etc.
: It just sucks.....

Surely you have to give some REAL reason as to why you don't like a certain genre of music yes? :wtf:

Why I don't like metal..okay I'll give some constructive critisism....First off I actually enjoyed Limp Bizkit...not really metal more rock rap but i'll call it nu-metal.......when they first came out but when chocolate starfish and the hot dog flavoured water came out I found that all the songs sounded the same and also what made madest was 1 out 2 of their singles was a cover of a who song. Now some metal I'll admit I enjoy such as early 90's Metalica, but st anger..to me sounded repetitive through out the whole album and sounded like metalica hadn't really put much effort into the writing of the lyrics..just my opninion. And the final reason why i don't care for metal is because of bands such as slip knot...don't care for em simply because i find that they can't really play their instruments all too well...that is why i don't like metal.

[Ringo]

Well in here we don't really like Limp Bizkit, because they are not Metal, and this is the Metal Discussion Thread, so your example of why you don't like metal wasn't a very good one. And Then St. Anger? That album is an acquired taste to say the least.

Try listening to some actual Metal before you come up with the statement, 'The Metal genre sucks balls'.

[Ms. Morningstar]

Why I don't like metal..okay I'll give some constructive critisism....First off I actually enjoyed Limp Bizkit...not really metal more rock rap but i'll call it nu-metal.......when they first came out but when chocolate starfish and the hot dog flavoured water came out I found that all the songs sounded the same and also what made madest was 1 out 2 of their singles was a cover of a who song. Now some metal I'll admit I enjoy such as early 90's Metalica, but st anger..to me sounded repetitive through out the whole album and sounded like metalica hadn't really put much effort into the writing of the lyrics..just my opninion. And the final reason why i don't care for metal is because of bands such as slip knot...don't care for em simply because i find that they can't really play their instruments all too well...that is why i don't like metal.
So you don't like Metal because of Limp Bizkit, Slipknot, and St. Anger?

That's the worst reason I've ever heard.

[SideburnZ]

Does anyone here listen to Pig Destroyer? They're the most dirty, disghusting and perverted thing I've heard in a while. With lyrical content dealing with sex, rape and horror and playing a lovely mix of grind, thrash, death and punk it's a great mixture. A band right up Burnz's alley I reckon.


Hahaha, before I even saw my name I was searching for them on Soulseek. :ashamed:

[SideburnZ]

Why I don't like metal..okay I'll give some constructive critisism....First off I actually enjoyed Limp Bizkit...not really metal more rock rap but i'll call it nu-metal.......when they first came out but when chocolate starfish and the hot dog flavoured water came out I found that all the songs sounded the same and also what made madest was 1 out 2 of their singles was a cover of a who song. Now some metal I'll admit I enjoy such as early 90's Metalica, but st anger..to me sounded repetitive through out the whole album and sounded like metalica hadn't really put much effort into the writing of the lyrics..just my opninion. And the final reason why i don't care for metal is because of bands such as slip knot...don't care for em simply because i find that they can't really play their instruments all too well...that is why i don't like metal.


What you just said was basically like saying "I don't like punk because Avril Lavigne sucks!" or "I don't like hip hop because Justin Timberlake is a bad singer!".

You're retarded and I do not like you.

[Steve_the_great]

I tried constructive critisism now I'm going to just be mean, I have thing to say, I hate metal its fucking terrible its not music its headbanging horseshit, and most of the metal heads in this forum right now are flaming sacks of horse shit for listening to it

[SideburnZ]

I tried constructive critisism now I'm going to just be mean, I have thing to say, I hate metal its fucking terrible its not music its headbanging horseshit, and most of the metal heads in this forum right now are flaming sacks of horse shit for listening to it


I assure you we're all deeply hurt by these comments.

The only thing that could have made them more hurtful would have been proper punctuation and grammar.

:cry:

Someone hold me.

[Ms. Morningstar]

I tried constructive critisism now I'm going to just be mean, I have thing to say, I hate metal its fucking terrible its not music its headbanging horseshit, and most of the metal heads in this forum right now are flaming sacks of horse shit for listening to it
Go cry about it, you whiny little bitch.

[Sweet Stan]

I tried constructive critisism

Er ...When ?

[NiMMERS]

I tried constructive critisism now I'm going to just be mean, I have thing to say, I hate metal its fucking terrible its not music its headbanging horseshit, and most of the metal heads in this forum right now are flaming sacks of horse shit for listening to it

That's harsh. I feel cold...

Those scything words so visceral....like a feather.

Get out of the thread. Your flames are shit so don't bother.

[Crabby]

I tried constructive critisism now I'm going to just be mean, I have thing to say, I hate metal its fucking terrible its not music its headbanging horseshit, and most of the metal heads in this forum right now are flaming sacks of horse shit for listening to it

There's a saying that if you don't like the violence on television,change the channel.Same with metal.If you don't like it Ballsy then just don't listen to it.Even if by the sounds of things you've barely heard any metal in your little life.A metal thread is hardly the best place to voice your anti-metal opinions, as misguided and ill-informed as they are anyway.

And also,if you're going to attempt to post stuff like that or insult people in any forum,try and at least be somewhat intelligent in your posts or at least humourous (or in your case,intentionally so anyway).It will assist you in looking like less of a tool.

You,however,possess neither of these qualities.

How shit for you.

[toysailor]

.....I found that all the songs sounded the same .....to me sounded repetitive through out the whole album and sounded like metalica hadn't really put much effort into the writing of the lyrics.....they can't really play their instruments all too well.....

errr, Guys, Gals? He DID try to give some rational thought to his reponses.....

But Steve, your criticisms are directed against certain Metal artists, not the type of music; you can't say Metal sucks donkey balls just bcos some metal artists are really bad.....it'll be like saying the whole of WWE sucks bcos some wrestlers are talentless fucks.

And really, if you're gonna say "Metal SUCKS" in a Metal discussion thread, you should be prepared to handle some flaming :flamed:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I'm still yet to see Steve mention any metal so far in this thread.

So far it's been Limp Bizkit and late Metallica.

Umm... how about you mention some metal? Just an idea. Instead of critizing mainstream rock under the guise of picking on metal, how about you pick on some Metal bands?

Just a thought.

[Crabby]

Well,it could be argued that St Anger is a metal album,regardless of quality.I'm not defending Ballsy,though.It's obvious that he has heard little metal and the only stuff he has heard is the mainstream face of the style anyway.

It's like the ignorant kids who think Slipknot are death metal or Linkin Park are true metal.They only pay attention to the mainstream bands that just reflect the characteristics of metal in a minor way (distorted guitars,etc). Few of em' delve deeper into the style of music to investigate the real metal that's out there anyway.

[Nemesis]

Does anyone here listen to Pig Destroyer? They're the most dirty, disghusting and perverted thing I've heard in a while. With lyrical content dealing with sex, rape and horror and playing a lovely mix of grind, thrash, death and punk it's a great mixture. A band right up Burnz's alley I reckon.

I've heard a clip or two of Prowler in the Yard, but not enough to know whether I liked it or not. :dunno:

[Crabby]

Which forthcoming releases are everyone eagerly anticipating for the rest of the year? I've gotta say I'm very much looking forward to the new album by The Haunted, as well as whenever Devolved and Dungeon get there new albums out there as well.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

If anyone didn't know I saw Edguy last night at the espy. First Hobbs Angel of Death opened at 8:30 (absolute shit band, just spoke to my mate Glen from Uni during their set at the back of the hall).

Dungeon played a shorter set due to Dakk leaving and Stevo not being there. I think thats why, with Glen a new Bassist and the drummer from Infernal Method filling it.

They played something like
something I fail to recognise
Insanity's Fall
Netherlife
something else I fail to recognise
I am Death
Traumatised

Which is quite a short set. Still LT's a damn funny guy.

Edguy played

Under the Moon
Navigator
Land Of The Miracle
Lavatory love Machine
Babylon
Vain Glory Opera
drum solo
Headless Game
The Piper Never Dies
King Of Fools

encore:
Chalice Of Agony
Tears Of A Mandrake
Out Of Control

And well they're a damn tight band, Tobi's a complete nut running around everywhere. Eggi broke a string or soemthing during Headless Game (can't say I noticed) so the set stopped for a bit with people looking for a Bass. WHile this was happening Tobi was talking a bit then decided he needed to go and take a piss, so he just walked off stage. Jens, Dirk and Felix didn't nkow what was going on so Jens just played acousticly for awhile until Tobi returned.

I must say their crowd interaction is awesome. Tobi really knows what to say and when to say it. Plus I now realise there's a hell of alot of backing melody which the crowd can sing along to.

Twas awesome. Just seeing Dirk/Jens/Eggi swaying side to side together (Headless Game) is the funniest thing ever. It's like they're taking the piss out of themselves.

My mate Glen only owns Hellfire, and when he said The Poet Never Dies should be a few minutes shorter and it'd be better I had to correct him and when Edguy played the song I had to remind him of his mistake again and again and again. he hated it.

The drunk guys in the crowd were bloody awesome, making awesome calls. And the crowd would break out changing Edguy mid-set between songs and cause Tobi to break his talking until we calmed down.

And I get to see em again on Friday. May take my brother's digital camera if he'll allow me to.

[Bandit]

That's incredible.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

What is?

[Simon]

I can sum up metal in one sentence......sucks ballsIf you post like this again, you will be banned.

*huggles*

[Ms. Morningstar]

Which forthcoming releases are everyone eagerly anticipating for the rest of the year?
Dark Tranquillity is supposed to be coming out with something new, I haven't heard that much about it.

[Bandit]

What is?
That you saw Edguy, and you get to again in the same week. :(

[Bandit]

Dark Tranquillity is supposed to be coming out with something new, I haven't heard that much about it.
Sounds interesting.

I think the new Skyfire comes out this coming tuesday or something, but of course, I already have it. ;)

[Ms. Morningstar]

Okay. I just looked at D_T's site.

Their new album is called "Exposures" It's a double CD, it has some new stuff and some old stuff.

[Crabby]

I received a few excellent albums today-

Emperor- Scattered Ashes- A Decade Of Imperial Wrath- Best Of compilation plus covers.It rules.
Decapitated- Nihility.
Nile- Black Seeds Of Vengeance.

[Bandit]

Okay. I just looked at D_T's site.

Their new album is called "Exposures" It's a double CD, it has some new stuff and some old stuff.
Can I have a link to their website please? It's good to hear something new from them, all I own from them is Haven, Gallery, and Damage Done. :yes:

-EDIT- I took a wild guess and found out it's www.darktranquility.com

[Crabby]

The tour dates for the In Flames/Chimaira Aussie tour will apparently be confirmed sometime next month.Great news.

[Bandit]

When I saw In Flames last month, they didn't play anything pre-Clayman, other than "Behind Space", and they played two songs from Clayman, then the rest were from Reroute to Remain and STYE. :\

[Crabby]

I've heard that instead of singing the clean vocals on the new stuff live,Anders just growls instead,though.Weird.

[WizoOzz]

When I saw In Flames last month, they didn't play anything pre-Clayman, other than "Behind Space", and they played two songs from Clayman, then the rest were from Reroute to Remain and STYE. :\


That sucks. I've seen them twice and they played mostly older stuff from Whoracle on up. Then again, I saw them pre-RtR and just after its release.

They rule live. Shame their newer stuff is pussed-out.

[Crabby]

What does everyone think of the new Meshuggah samples from the upcoming EP? (Which is one 20-plus minute track) It sounds awesome,though I'm more looking forward to whenevr the hell they put out their next album.

[Bandit]

Crabby, his vocals definitely weren't clean, but they weren't nearly as orgasmic as they were on Jester Race or Lunar Strain.

Wizo, I couldn't agree with you more.

[Ms. Morningstar]

:o

I just looked at Borknagar's site and apparently 'Epic" came out June 21st. I knew nothing about this.

[Crabby]

Crabby, his vocals definitely weren't clean, but they weren't nearly as orgasmic as they were on Jester Race or Lunar Strain.



I'd still be damn keen to see em' live regardless,though.

[SerialHunter]

To the guy that has been posting about how great the New album of Killswitch engage is: you're right

[Bandit]

I'd still be damn keen to see em' live regardless,though.
Oh definitely, even though they played a lot of their inferior songs, I still loved them. :yes:

[NiMMERS]

What does everyone think of the new Meshuggah samples from the upcoming EP? (Which is one 20-plus minute track) It sounds awesome,though I'm more looking forward to whenevr the hell they put out their next album.

I thought it was pretty solid, despite the Deeds of Fleshy snare which stuck out like a sore thumb.

Good to see you're embracing death metal, Crabby. You need to get 'Amongst the Catacombs of Nephren-Ka' next, fucking awesome. It's probably about time you embraced the majesty that is 'Sons of Northern Darkness' by Immortal too.

[WizoOzz]

Crabby, his vocals definitely weren't clean, but they weren't nearly as orgasmic as they were on Jester Race or Lunar Strain.


I could have sworn that Mikael Stanne from Dark Tranquillity did the vocals on Lunar Strain and Subterranean.

[Crabby]

Good to see you're embracing death metal, Crabby. You need to get 'Amongst the Catacombs of Nephren-Ka' next, fucking awesome. It's probably about time you embraced the majesty that is 'Sons of Northern Darkness' by Immortal too.

I already own Amongst The Catacombs and IDTS actually.Awesome stuff.

The new The Dilinger Escape Plan track also sounds pretty cool.


To the guy that has been posting about how great the New album of Killswitch engage is: you're right

Haha,that's probably about half a dozen of us really,but it is a killer album.We wouldn't lie to you.

[Crabby]

In Flames/Chimaira dates are confirmed.Fucking yay.

Sep. 17 – Heaven - Adelaide, AUS (all ages)
Sep. 18 - Hi-Fi Bar - Melbourne, AUS (18+)
Sep. 19 - Hi-Fi Bar - Melbourne, AUS (matinee, under 18)
Sep. 21 - Manning Bar – Sydney, AUS (all ages)
Sep. 22 - Manning Bar - Sydney, AUS (18+)

[Bandit]

I could have sworn that Mikael Stanne from Dark Tranquillity did the vocals on Lunar Strain and Subterranean.
That would make sense, the vocals DO sound totally different on Lunar Strain/Subterranean, but I'd never heard anyone tell me it was a different singer, so I just assumed it was Anders. :yes:

[Nemesis]

Yeah, it was a different guy, but I didn't remember the name.


I have a horrible time remembering most band members' names, especially if they're Scandinavian...with all those damn consonants and whatnot...:derr:

[Nemesis]

Son...of...a...bitch.

When I was looking for new shirts, I stumbled across something on Nuclear Blast's website: it's a necklace with a mock razor blade hanging from it, with the Mayhem logo embossed on the blade. It's fucking awesome. Here's what it looks like:

http://shop.nuclearblast.de/artikelbilder/125/125655.jpg

I didn't order it because the site is a little confusing about some things (it's German), and They expect me to send a photocopy of my debit card through a fax machine. :wtf: That would be great if I owned one. And what the hell is an "advance check?" Is that the same thing as a money order??

I can't find the damn necklace anywhere else and it's pissing me off. You'd think the official Mayhem site would have a link to at least one place that sells it, but they don't.

I guess I just came on here to bitch and complain. Or, in the rare event that one of you happens to see it on another site, let me know. :happysad:

I couldn't find the Immortal shirt I was looking for, either, but I did find a pretty cool Dimmu Borgir one. :headbang:

[SideburnZ]

Ministry - Houses of the Molé

:drool::drool::drool:

It's actually just as good as, if not better than, Psalm 69.

[Steve_the_great]

I can sum up metal in one sentence......sucks balls

Metal heads everywhere I'm sorry for the comment I made regarding metal, because of that comment I have branded myself as a hypocrite in my own eyes, something I swore i'd never be. I'm a hypocrite because I actually enjoy throwing on the metallica or the black sabbath. So if I offended anyone I'm sorry.

[Bandit]

Apology accepted.

For those into black metal, what do you think of Carpathian Forest?

[Crabby]

Ministry - Houses of the Molé

:drool::drool::drool:

It's actually just as good as, if not better than, Psalm 69.

The few tracks I've heard sound awesome,I might have to get it soon methinks.

[Crabby]

New Fozzy album news-

"Singer Mongoose McQueen has left Fozzy and been replaced by WWE wrestler Chris Jericho.

Confused? Thought McQueen and Jericho were one and the same? Well, not anymore. After two records as the boastful, obnoxious McQueen, Jericho will put his alter ego to rest with the fall release of Fozzy's All That Remains.

When Fozzy released their self-titled debut in 2000, Jericho and Stuck Mojo guitarist Rich Ward conceived a back story that was almost as ridiculous and entertaining as the plot of "This Is Spinal Tap." Fozzy, as the legend went, were an early-'80s metal band who wrote a long list of classic tunes, then languished in Japan for 20 years because they'd signed a bad record deal.

While Fozzy were trapped in the Far East, Iron Maiden, Ozzy Osbourne, Mötley Crüe, Judas Priest, the Scorpions and others stole Fozzy's songs and turned them into international hits. When they were finally able to return to the U.S., Fozzy re-recorded their hits and released them on two albums, along with a smattering of new songs.

"The story had really played itself as far as it can go," Jericho said. "It was kind of a fun thing at the time, but we realized this band is really kick-ass, and our original stuff is really good. So we decided we should do all original stuff and take it as far as we could from there."

All That Remains will feature material influenced by a cross-section of '80s metal legends and contemporary rockers. The songs will run the gamut from melodic hard rock to thrash to extreme metal. "If you took Metallica crossed with Iron Maiden crossed with Saliva crossed with Journey, you might get an idea of what Fozzy sounds like now," Jericho said.

To load up the album with maximum firepower, Jericho recruited a bunch of guest musicians. Most of them — Black Label Society/Ozzy Osbourne guitarist Zakk Wylde, former Creed guitarist Mark Tremonti and ex-Megadeth shredder Marty Friedman — were pretty obvious choices, but Bone Crusher? Fozzy hooked up with the crunk MC early this year after they found out he's a huge wrestling fan, a big Jericho supporter and a fan of Fozzy's first two discs.

He's not your typical rapper," Jericho said. "His voice is very heavy. He could be singing for Slayer or Testament. I'm not all that familiar with the rap world — Young MC, Ice-T and Ice Cube is about as far as I go. But Bone Crusher was almost like a musical genius. He came in and listened to the part on the song 'It's a Lie' for about three minutes, wrote some stuff down, went into the booth and about five minutes later came back and said, 'Do you want the next verse?' And what he did was very catchy and very cool. It's not a rap-metal song like you would hear Rage Against the Machine do. It sounds more like something the Beatles would have come up with."

The recording with Tremonti was more spontaneous. Jericho first learned of the guitarist's interest when they were introduced in a club by a mutual friend. Tremonti told the wrestler/rocker he'd love to play an acrobatic guitar solo with Fozzy because he never got to do that in Creed, then the two went their separate ways. That was that — until Fozzy wound up recording in the same Atlanta studio as Tremonti's new group, Alter Bridge .

"I went down there and said, 'Hey, man, are you still interested in doing a track with us?,' and he was totally into it," Jericho said. "We found a song that was perfect for him ['The Way I Am'], and he just let it rip. He enjoyed it so much, then his singer, Miles Kennedy, came down and laid some backing vocals on another one of our songs."

The old Fozzy would surely have claimed they stole guitarist Marty Friedman away from Megadeth, which is why he's absent from Megadeth's new record, The System Has Failed. The revamped Fozzy, however, get more mileage out of the straight story. Friedman was a big fan of Fozzy producer Rick Beato's former band Billionaire, and over the years, the two became friends. So even after Friedman moved to Japan, Beato was able to track him down to deliver a frenetic solo for "Born of Anger."

"Rick e-mailed Marty and said, 'I got this track I'd love for you to play on,' and Marty said, 'Anything for you, man,' " said Jericho. "It's the heaviest song on the record, full of all these different thrash and black-metal parts, and there's an Indian-sounding part in the middle, so we had Marty put down a crazy solo over that. He went into a studio in Japan, recorded the track and then e-mailed it to us, and it sounds amazing."

Other numbers on All That Remains include "Nameless Faceless," about a homeless man who used to be rich; "Enemy" and "Wanderlust," which are both relationship songs; and "Daze of the Weak," which addresses rising from a pit of depression.

Fozzy will tour to support the new album, though their schedule will be dictated by Jericho's day job. "We'll go to a town and I'll wrestle, then I'll go to the gig and we'll play," he said. "Now, more than ever, we're ready to go out and do it. This is the real deal."

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Guess what my first post today is going to be about?

Thats right....

Nightwish.

I really like their new album even if there's one or two average tracks in the middle.

[Crabby]

Lamb Of God have posted a new track,it sounds pretty cool.Their new album will apparently be out by August.

http://chrisco.nexgenis.com/15-Lamb_Of_God_-_Laid_To_Rest_(Demo).mp3

I've also been listening to I Killed The Prom Queen's debut album.Pretty good Aussie metalcore.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

And you thought it was going to be about Edguy. tsk tsk tsk.

Thats what this post is about...

As most of you know the 2nd Melbourne Edguy gig was on at the Espy last night.

As usual all through Friday I was completely exhausted from not getting enough sleep. So I slept from 4:30 to 7pm. I then left for the show (which is leaving it a little late since the doors opened at 8:30 and its at least an hour drive: Lucky I have a special parking spot next to the espy :D)

Instead of Hobb's Angel of Death opening like last time we had more of a nu-metal (think Linkin Park with some actual heavyness and screaming: so a mix between nu and melo) band called PhantomBola (PTB). They weren't all that bad, I prefer it over the death from hobbs we got last Sunday.

Dungeon played exactly the same set as last week. The only difference I was standing at the front since I didn't have Glenn to talk to this time. So before the show I bought 2 posters (me and his) since I promised him I would. $5 each.

It was expected Dungeon play the same set since well... they were having two members fill in like last time and I assume they dont know the entire catalogue.

As for Edguy. Well by the time the Edguys had his the stage I had already worked myself upto the stage right next to Dirk's monitor/foldback/whatever-you-feel-like-calling-it so I'm front row (Last time I was 4-5 rows back with Glenn), so pretty much I heard the entire set through the monitor sice the house speakers were behind me.

So really the guys were under a metre infront of me (3ft for those yanks). The Set Edguy played was

Under The Moon
Navigator
Land of The Miracle
Lavatory Love Machine
Wake Up The King (Unplayed on this tour)
Vain Glory Opera
drum solo
Fallen Angels
The Piper Never Dies
King Of Fools

encore:
Avantasia
Tears of A Mandrake
Out Of Control

So essentially they removed Headless Game/Babylon/Chalice Of Agony from the set and put in Wake up The king/Fallen Angels/Avantasia. Since I was front row right under Dirk and Eggi between the encore and main set I had the guy next to me pick up one of the picks on the floor (Eggi's constantly dropping picks to change between pick and finger) and he doesn't pick them back up. So I got one of Eggi's picks. Almost had one of Felix's sticks but this fat cow basically yelled at me because I caught it before she did and yanked it from my hand. Bitch.

Watching Eggi play the intro for Lavatory Love Machine up close [and hearing it clear as day through his foldback (next to dirk's)] is fucking amazing. It makes the song 10X better. Avantasia has always been one of my favourite songs and it's fucking legendary live.

And then of course with Dirk/Jens/Eggi's swaying hips during the riff sections of Vani Glory Opera/LLM is just priceless. It's hilarious.

And Always Tobi just brings something to a show which is virtually unmatched. Running around like a freaking lunatic, cracking jokes between songs (Damn funny when he was wearing the towel on his head and saying "I'm reading for the Ji-had" but "I can't fly planes" was priceless, but of course he couldnt get away with that in the US) Just watching Tobi is worth admission alone.

Oh and I shook the hands of 4 Edguys (Felix didn't come down to the front :( ). I feel so honoured. That makes me sound like such a fag. :$

Plus something different is the differences between Thrash and Power crowds. Thrash generally has a tight squashed mosh while Power is more casual. I prefer thsi one as you're not fighting for your spot every 3 seconds. Plus since its at the Espy you can see Edguy from any spot in the room.

Priceless gig \m/ :headbang:

[NiMMERS]

Apology accepted.

For those into black metal, what do you think of Carpathian Forest?

They're pretty good. Check out Nattefrost's solo album too which is just as good.

[Crabby]

Devolved news,although I don't know if anyone else will care really-

"Australian tech-metallers DEVOLVED are currently planning an Australian tour for September/October. The tour will coincide with the release of the group's new CD, "Calculated", and will be the band's last live performances in Australia before they relocate permanently to the USA. All show dates and details will be posted at www.devolved.net shortly. "Calculated" will feature 11 new tracks as well as two bonus tracks, one of which is a cover of METALLICA's classic "Battery"."

And apparently Daysend have scored the opening slot for In Flames/Chimaira,at least in Sydney anyway.I can hear the MetalShop posters already complaining......

[Black Eagle]

I was watching late night Rage on Friday night/sat morning, and they played a Daysend song, and i thought they were pretty decent. What are the dates for the In Flames tour? I would love to see them live.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Sweden's IN FLAMES have confirmed that they will be embarking on a short Australian tour with CHIMAIRA beginning in mid-September. The confirmed dates and venues are as follows:

Sep. 17 – Heaven - Adelaide, AUS (all ages)
Sep. 18 - Hi-Fi Bar - Melbourne, AUS (18+)
Sep. 19 - Hi-Fi Bar - Melbourne, AUS (matinee, under 18)
Sep. 21 - Manning Bar – Sydney, AUS (all ages)
Sep. 22 - Manning Bar - Sydney, AUS (18+)

There we go.

[Crabby]

I was watching late night Rage on Friday night/sat morning, and they played a Daysend song, and i thought they were pretty decent. What are the dates for the In Flames tour? I would love to see them live.

That was probably "Born Is The Enemy".A lot of metal fans rip on Daysend but they're pretty cool.Most of the criticism seems to come from people who think that they're sellouts or nu metal,neither of which is correct.Bah.

[NiMMERS]

That was probably "Born Is The Enemy".A lot of metal fans rip on Daysend but they're pretty cool.Most of the criticism seems to come from people who think their sellouts or nu metal,neither of which is correct.Bah.

What we have to come to terms is that 90% of Australian metal fans that are online are too obsessed with engulfing themselves with underground black & death metal and grind with a hatred for anything else with popular sensitivities.

[Nemesis]

Man, Possessed 13 from The Crown is awesome. I think I like it better than Crowned in Terror. I got a bonus CD with demo tracks and stuff, too.

I listened to Life is Killing Me (Type O Negative), and it's pretty awesome, too. They have some pretty funny shit on there.

[SideburnZ]

Life Is Killing Me rules.

Everyone get new Ministry. :mad: It's the best.

[NiMMERS]

Man, Possessed 13 from The Crown is awesome. I think I like it better than Crowned in Terror. I got a bonus CD with demo tracks and stuff, too.

Yeah? I thought it was a pretty average release. Nothing sticks out to me.

Finally my Psycroptic cd came in!

Also picked up an 'EP' (I use that term loosely), by Reverend Bizarre. 'Harbinger of Metal' goes for 74 minutes. Plus it has a cover of Burzum's 'Dunkelheit'. Pretty damn good. Fucking slow, super heavy doom metal.

[Bandit]

Speaking of Burzum, which is everyone's favorite album?

I'll go with Aske. "A Sad and Forgotten Last Spirit" :drool:

[NiMMERS]

Hvis Lyset Tar Oss

[Bandit]

Hvis Lyset Tar Oss
Nice. :yes:

I also like a fe songs from Filosofem, but I hate #5. (too lazy to go look at the name)

Someone told me it's really good to fall asleep too, but it pisses me off because it just doesn't stop...fr like twenty-five minutes, and I stick my head between my pillows and scream.

Then I throw in "Black Aria" and all is well.

[Crabby]

Finally my Psycroptic cd came in!



Geez,they took their time,Mick!!!!!!

This Emperor compilation fucking rules.Methinks I'll have to look into getting some of their back catalogue.The Bathory cover is also pretty cool.

[SideburnZ]

Nice. :yes:

I also like a fe songs from Filosofem, but I hate #5. (too lazy to go look at the name)

Someone told me it's really good to fall asleep too, but it pisses me off because it just doesn't stop...fr like twenty-five minutes, and I stick my head between my pillows and scream.

Then I throw in "Black Aria" and all is well.


That someone was me, and I'm right and you're wrong.

[Bandit]

That someone was me, and I'm right and you're wrong.
Okay, you're right, I DON'T hate falling asleep to it every night and the song DOESN'T annoy me.

I don't understand how there's a right/wrong to it. :p

[NiMMERS]

That someone was me, and I'm right and you're wrong.

I'll second that. Burzum's quieter moments are very soothing and ease one into sleep no troubles.


Geez,they took their time,Mick!!!!!!

This Emperor compilation fucking rules.Methinks I'll have to look into getting some of their back catalogue.The Bathory cover is also pretty cool.

They did. But it was worth the wait, the album is awesome.

Get 'Anthems...' by Emperor. The album is pretty much faultless.

[Bandit]

I'll second that. Burzum's quieter moments are very soothing and ease one into sleep no troubles.
They keep me awake though, I don't know why either.

I'll stick to my Black Aria.

[SideburnZ]

Ok...I've recently gotten...

Windir -1184: AWESOME. Thankyou Bandit for giving me the hookup, DAWG. Good stuff.

Danzig - Black Aria: Don't understand why it has such awful reviews. I love it.

Satyricon - Rebel Extravaganza: Good, but I'd take Shadowthrone over it anyday. Beats Volcano. :yes:

Norhter - Dreams of Endless War: Okay. If I get sick of my 5 Bodom discs, I can pop this in and pretend it's a 6th. The cover of Final Countdown is immense.

Dark Tranquillity - The Gallery: Better than Haven, not as good as Damage Done. :yes:

[Crabby]

I D/L the new Death Angel and Ministry albums,both sound pretty damn good.Methinks I'll have to get em' both pretty soon.

[WizoOzz]

Dark Tranquillity - The Gallery: Better than Haven, not as good as Damage Done. :yes:

The Mind's I...buy it. It's a Swedish Melodic Death Metal masterpiece. I promise, you'll never regret it.

[QuietStorm]

After ECG's thread inspired me last night, I got myself a lot of Windir (thanks to Bandit), Ensiferum, Finntroll, Ulver, Moonsorrow, Emperor, and Bathory.


So far I have just had the chance to listen to some Windir and Ulver. I love both bands from what I have gotten to hear so far. Ulver's Perdition City album is great. I have already heard some Emperor and Bathory before so I know what to expect there.

[Bandit]

Finntroll fuckin' rocks. :headbang:

Which album did you get?

[Ms. Morningstar]

Indeed they do.

Nattfodd is the best album this year.

[QuietStorm]

Yeah, I got Nattfodd and Jaktens Tid. I'll probably end up buying both sometime down the road.

[Bandit]

Those are the two albums I have. :heart:

[Crabby]

This sounds damn good-

"SLAYER will issue Reign In Blood Live: Still Reigning on September 28, 2004 on American records. Here's the official press release:

For the first time in the band’s long career, fans will be able to see the original Slayer line-up performing an entire concert live on DVD when the band releases Reign In Blood Live: Still Reigning on September 28, 2004. The DVD will have an approximate 75-minute running time and will retail for $14.98.

On Reign In Blood: Still Reigning, the original members of Slayer - Tom Araya (vocals, bass), guitarists Kerry King and Jeff Hanneman, and drummer Dave Lombardo (who permanently rejoined the band in 2003) - will perform in its entirety Reign In Blood, the 28-minute, 1986 classic considered to this day the pinnacle album of its genre.

“Reign in Blood is our signature record, and if people think that it helped set the path for that genre of music, that’s great,” said Araya. “It’s a record that means a lot to all of us in the band - it was our first record for a major label, and our first record with Rick Rubin who gave it unconditional support.”

Reign In Blood: Still Reigning will be directed by Dean Karr (IRON MAIDEN), and is set to be shot this Sunday, July 11 at the Civic Center in Augusta, ME. Ten cameras, including three hand-held mini-DVs, will capture Slayer throughout the day and evening, filming an abundance of footage and interviews shot backstage, on the band’s tour bus, and live on stage."

[Aussie_Outlaw]

With the recent success of Guns 'N Roses greatest hits compilation one must wonder just what Axl Rose is upto. With his former bandmates now playing in Velvet Revolver Axl's taken a bit of a back seat, which we never knew was in his nature.

In the past, he's been loudspoken, to the point of fighting with Motley Crue frontman Vince Neil on national television. But the once outspoken bad-boy of metal has changed his tune. No longer the loud, womanizing drunk he was once portrayed to be has been seen around various nightspots.

Of the greatest hits album, Axl said, "There was no doubt in my mind that it'd sell the amount it did, its what you expect when you're at the top of your career. Back in 1994 we did something revolutionary and release two albums at the same time. And today the revolutionary idea was a greatest hits album to surpass any other. And thats been done. All this shows is that the greatest band still has an enormous fanbase and I'm sure we're not going to disappoint."

"As for anything new, well over the past ten years I've been putting together something so grand, so huge, so insanely awesome, well you'll just have to wait and see. It's got things you never thought possible. And once again we're going to show the world, just what we're made of"

"To all the people who wrote us off, well FUCK YOU, the Gunners are back, and we were never gone, but taking a break. "

And all I can say is Long Live the Kings

Err yeah.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

And my obligatory Megadeth post

BLABBERMOUTH.NET: DAVE MUSTAINE: 'DAVID ELLEFSON Is Suing Me And MEGADETH' - July 8, 2004 (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=24538)

Megadeth Album cover (http://www.mikelearn.com/megadeth/mega_01.html)

[Crabby]

I just read that and I must say that's a pretty detailed description of the band's demise really.

[SerialHunter]

Poor AXL Velvet Revolver done more in 10 weeks than him on 10 years...

...maybe he needs to marry Courtney Love to get back in the musicbiz

[Ringo]

I never really liked 'em anyway. Meh...

[Aussie_Outlaw]

It'd prolly also help if I stopped fabricating news stories.

[Monkey]

And my obligatory Megadeth post

BLABBERMOUTH.NET: DAVE MUSTAINE: 'DAVID ELLEFSON Is Suing Me And MEGADETH' - July 8, 2004 (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=24538)

Megadeth Album cover (http://www.mikelearn.com/megadeth/mega_01.html)

I just read that huge post, and from it you can kinda see how everything virtually imploded through bad decisions, but it sounds way too much like Mustaine thinks he's had nothing to do with any of it and it all fell down around him.

I'm willing to bet there was plenty of shit that he did that brought to their decisions as well.

[Crabby]

I bought Grip,Inc's new album,"Incorporated" today and it's awesome.Although seeing as Dave Lombardo is involved that's not really surprising.Great thrash metal with some really,really cool experimental elements.

[Crabby]

Some more Devolved news-

"Australian tech-metallers DEVOLVED have set a September 6 Australian release date for their new album, "Calculated". The CD, which contains 11 new tracks as well as two bonus tracks (one of which is a cover of METALLICA's classic "Battery"), will be available throughout the country in all major and independent music stores. An international release date will be announced shortly.

In other news, live dates are now being confirmed for the DEVOLVED national tour of Australia in October and November. The band will be playing in major cities, including Perth, as well as many regional areas. The first dates announced are for Brisbane and the Gold Coast. The tour will be the band's last live performances in Australia before they relocate permanently to the USA."

[Bandit]

Is it bad that I've never heard of this band?

What are they like, ole crabby?

[Crabby]

Not really,they're Australian but they are known in overseas metal circles and have toured the US and Europe.

Think early Fear Factory but more technical (particularly in the drumming) and more brutal as well.Their drummer,John Sankey,is a machine.They're just an incredibly under-rated band.

Check out their debut album,"Technologies", or the "Automation" EP.

[Bandit]

Alright man, thanks. :yes:

[Crabby]

In Flames tickets are on-sale at www.custommade.com.au

[Bandit]

I've been reading up on Emperor and I came across thier previous bassist, Mortiis' website. Turns out, he has his own band, looks to be pretty good too.

Any of you wanna give album recommendations? (looking at you nIMMERS)

[NiMMERS]

You want album reccomendations? YOU GOT ITTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!! /Frank Costanza

Blood Has Been Shed - Spirals (Brutal metalcore....lose the core....it's very much in the vein of Meshuggah with hints of death metal and grind)

Carcass - Necroticism : Descanting the Insalubrious (People rave on about how good 'Heartwork' is, I think this is better as it has the melody and the grind brutality when they first started out. Fucking awesome)

Darkthrone - Entire Back Catalogue (Nike - Just do it)

Strapping Young Lad - City (buy it or never post in this thread again)

Enslaved - back catalogue...again....you will understand why

[Alex E]

Indeed they do.

Nattfodd is the best album this year.

Well, I dunno if I'd go that far...but yeah, it kicks ass. Trollhammeren is a great choice for the single, too. I also heard some really crap album by them, I think it was some tribute album to a dead former member or something. Can anyone clear that up?

[Bandit]

You want album reccomendations? YOU GOT ITTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!! /Frank Costanza

Blood Has Been Shed - Spirals (Brutal metalcore....lose the core....it's very much in the vein of Meshuggah with hints of death metal and grind)

Carcass - Necroticism : Descanting the Insalubrious (People rave on about how good 'Heartwork' is, I think this is better as it has the melody and the grind brutality when they first started out. Fucking awesome)

Darkthrone - Entire Back Catalogue (Nike - Just do it)

Strapping Young Lad - City (buy it or never post in this thread again)

Enslaved - back catalogue...again....you will understand why I meant albums from Mortiis...but thanks anyways, I'll check em all out, and already love Darkthrone/Enslaved.

[Monkey]

bought Atreyu - The Curse on the recommendation of friends/acquaintances without having heard any of it.

Fuckin awesome album.....
In my mind, I'd liken it to the KsE album of late.
Hard, Melodic, Phat (thats the "ph" variety of course) riffs, big solos.... loving it all round....

And Nimmers, this would now be a perfect example of what "style" my taste has evolved to.

I'm sure that last sentance didn't make one iota of sense....

[Bandit]

Atreyu is hardcore though, not metal.

Anyways, I got that album back in the beginning of may, and I feel like gloating.

[Monkey]

its a fine line between the two sometimes though.....

and labels and genres mean nothing to me....
if my ears like something, i listen to it.

but this is the best place I know of to talk about it, since most people here would probably listen to either "genre"

[NiMMERS]

I meant albums from Mortiis...but thanks anyways, I'll check em all out, and already love Darkthrone/Enslaved.

Fair enough.

I've never heard Mortiis. His only claim to fame was that stint in Emperor. As far as I know his solo work is very synth/percussive in nature and probably not to my liking.

[Bandit]

His work in Emperor is the only reason I want to hear him.

I did end up getting an album, "The Smell of Rain" and it was industrial ambience stuff. It was decent, but nothing spectacular. From what I've heard, it's one of his worst, so I'll keep looking I guess.

Monkey, I totally understand where you're coming from. :yes:

[Bandit]

Hey guys, go listen to Svartsyn. They rule all.

...seriously.

[GameOver!]

His only claim to fame was that stint in Emperor.Stint? Uhhh, didn't he like, Start the band?

[Bandit]

GO!, I remember you making that magazine a while back in the graphics forum. I remember seeing Marduk (lolz) and Mayhem.

What else do oyu listen to?

[NiMMERS]

Stint? Uhhh, didn't he like, Start the band?

Well he was in the original incarnation of the band and played on 2(?) releases, the Wrath of the Tyrant demo and another EP. As to whether forming the band was his idea...you'd have to ask the bloke himself...

[Crabby]

I finally picked up Ministry's "Houses Of The Mole", which is definitely a return to form I've gotta say.Damn store didn't have the new Meshuggah EP,though.

[Bandit]

Wow. I picked up kivenkandaja from "Moonsorrow" as well as "The Winter Falls over the Land" by Moonblood, and "Vittra" from Naglfar.

Terrific.

[Nemesis]

I finally picked up Ministry's "Houses Of The Mole", which is definitely a return to form I've gotta say.

Sounds cool. I haven't listened to anything of theirs past Filth Pig.

I still haven't found an industrial CD I like more than Skrew - Shadow of Doubt, though.

[Crabby]

There's some awesome samples of George W on a few of the tracks that really take the piss out of him well.

[GameOver!]

Well he was in the original incarnation of the band and played on 2(?) releases, the Wrath of the Tyrant demo and another EP. As to whether forming the band was his idea...you'd have to ask the bloke himself...Well that's what the guy says, that he formed the band... and then left their asses behind for admittedly selfish reasons.

:beer:

[NiMMERS]

Well that's what the guy says, that he formed the band... and then left their asses behind for admittedly selfish reasons.

:beer:

I can't say I've read any of his interviews or anything outlining this at all. I do recall something that he was a big of a rooster whilst in the band...

I'll take what you say on board anyway.

[Crabby]

Mick,I took your advice and picked up Mastodon's "Remission" today,which I've gotta say is an excellent album.I also got The Dilinger Escape Plan's "Miss Machine" which also sounds awesome.

[SideburnZ]

Picked up:

Witchery - Symphony For The Devil: Very good. Bodom'like metal.

Exodus - Tempo Of The Damned: AWESOME. Exodus > Slayer/Metallica thrash stuff.

Dimmu Borgir - For All Tid: My new favorite of theres.

Dimmu - Spiritual Black Dimensions: Good. :yes:

Danzig - Thrall: Demonsweatlive: Very nice. Got all Danzig albums now. :yes:

[Crabby]

I received the latest HevyDevy newsletter,and apparently both the SYL and DTB DVD's are finished,which is great news.Plus Strapping will hit the studio to record their next album in September.

Dammit I wish I'd discovered Mastodon sooner,this band are fucking awesome.

[Bandit]

I got the following:

Emperor: IX Equilibrium
Dark Tranquility: The Mind's I
Vintersorg: Odenmark's Son
Moonblood: My Evil Soul
Megadeth: I Kill for Thrills
Megadeth: System has Failed

Yay me.

[Bandit]

Dammit I wish I'd discovered Mastodon sooner,this band are fucking awesome.
I've seen Mastodon around, and heard their name tossed around occasionally, but I've never picked them up.

What do they sound like?

They're power metal, no?

[Nemesis]

Picked up:

Witchery - Symphony For The Devil: Very good. Bodom'like metal.

Dimmu Borgir - For All Tid: My new favorite of theres.



Damn, you beat me to those.

What does For All Tid sound like in comparison to their later albums?? I've heard it's supposed to be more black metal, but the only track I've heard was Glittertind.

[SideburnZ]

Damn, you beat me to those.

What does For All Tid sound like in comparison to their later albums?? I've heard it's supposed to be more black metal, but the only track I've heard was Glittertind.


I dunno if it's more black metal. It's still very melodic, especially the first 4 tracks. However, it has a very raw sound. Like really poor recording sound added to the melodic orchestral black metal sounds...it comes off really well.

It's a nice combination and it's quickly becoming my favorite Dimmu album.

[NiMMERS]

Mick,I took your advice and picked up Mastodon's "Remission" today,which I've gotta say is an excellent album.I also got The Dilinger Escape Plan's "Miss Machine" which also sounds awesome.

Awesome, man. It's a killer album. I heard some new DEP the other night and I was quite impressed by it. Might go pick it up this arvo or something.


I received the latest HevyDevy newsletter,and apparently both the SYL and DTB DVD's are finished,which is great news.Plus Strapping will hit the studio to record their next album in September.

Dammit I wish I'd discovered Mastodon sooner,this band are fucking awesome.

As you can imagine I'm salivating at the prospect of those 2 dvd's.

And yes, Mastodon are the shit. Rock on.


I've seen Mastodon around, and heard their name tossed around occasionally, but I've never picked them up.

What do they sound like?

They're power metal, no?

They're definitely not power metal. They're hard to slot into a sub genre. They have MASSIVE rocking riffs, the most insane drummer I've heard in a while (he doesn't need blastbeats to sound insane...very jazz influenced) and the vocals are gruff and hardcore in style. Give them a go mate, there really is nobody else like them at the moment.

I was down Sydney the other day and scored some goodies at Utopia.

Morbid Angel - Domination
Morbid Angel - Covenant
Pig Destroyer - Prowler In The Yard
Neurosis - The Eye Of Every Storm

Also nabbed a nice Darkthrone shirt at a gig the night before too.

[Nemesis]

There's some awesome samples of George W on a few of the tracks that really take the piss out of him well.

:lol: Awesome. Good to see Al still taking shots at the Bush family. :yes:

[Crabby]

As you can imagine I'm salivating at the prospect of those 2 dvd's.



Supposedly the DTB one will have more of a retrospective kinda feel,which should be interesting really.

[Bandit]

I got some new CDs.

Trollech owns you all. Listen to them.

[Crabby]

The Haunted's "Revolver" will be released on Ocrtober 18.Fucking awesome.

Who does everyone think will sign up Opeth now that Music For Nations has been shut down? My guess is Century Media.

[fear is the mindkiller]

The Haunted's "Revolver" will be released on Ocrtober 18.Fucking awesome.

Who does everyone think will sign up Opeth now that Music For Nations has been shut down? My guess is Century Media.

I think it's been confirmed on their website...

[Ringo]

What are everyones opinions on two rather fantastic bands, Disiplin and Six Feet Under?

Also, I have heard music from all of the following, yet I get muddled up from time to time, which band does what? -

My Precious Blood
Every Time I Die
Blood Has Been Shed


And Fucking Hell, anyone who has not yet downloaded/bought/done whatever it takes to listen to BleedingThrough's 'This Is Love, This Is Murderous' and in particular, 'Revenge I Seek', really should RIGHT NOW.

And Crabby, any more recomendations for me?

[Crabby]

I think you'd really,really enjoy Sunk Loto's "Between Birth And Death".Avoid their early stuff,though,it's bland Deftones worship that gives new meaning to the word "generic".

And the awesomeness that is Devolved's "Technologies", (Think early Fear Factory,but more technical) Alchemist (very diverse sound) Daysend (Melodic death) are always worth hearing.And you can't go past The Haunted and The Crown either.

Blood Has Been Shed are fucking awesome,get "Spirals".Now.What I've heard of Disiplin was okay-kinda black metal with thrashy elements.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Got a few more primal Fear albums.

was supposedly getting some Heavenly/Dragonforce/Priest but my cd ripped decided to fuck me over. Stupid piece of shit.

If you didn't notice my mate Glen dropped in today, he's in my C++ lecture. So its an awesome lecture now.

[WizoOzz]

I think it's been confirmed on their website...

No, actually on their website it says that they're shopping around now for a new deal.


Blood Has Been Shed are fucking awesome,get "Spirals".Now.

Fucker!!! My g/f couldn't find anything by BHBS...ANYWHERE when she was doing Father's Day shopping for me. My god I want Spirals...salt in wound, man.

Guess I'm gonna have to order it online.


What are everyones opinions on ... Six Feet Under?

Warpath is fucking awesome. I haven't heard the album before that, but it's apparently pretty good as well (and I've been meaning to get it). And Graveyard Classics is fucking great for a laugh. But anything else is pretty shitty...

And if you dig SFU, I certainly hope that you've managed to pick up Cannibal Corpse's first three albums. And certainly The Bleeding, which, quite simply, is CC's masterpiece.

[Crabby]

Fucker!!! My g/f couldn't find anything by BHBS...ANYWHERE when she was doing Father's Day shopping for me. My god I want Spirals...salt in wound, man.

Guess I'm gonna have to order it online.


I picked it up pretty cheap from EBay,that may be your best option,Wizz.

I bought Queensryche's "Rage For Order", which is a pretty solid album I've gotta say.

[Ringo]

Thanks Crabby and WizoOzz, Greatly appreciated.

Oh yeah I forgot to mention my short experience of Life Of Agony at the Download Festival, I only saw the end of their set, but what I saw was very good.

Another band that sound promising, Ephel Duath, dunno much about them, does anyone else?

The Meads Of Asphodel are a decent band for anyone who likes the idea of a slightly slower, more industrial Cradle Of Filth.

Not metal maybe, but Dave Grohl joined Nine Inch Nails for their new album for anyone that is interested.

Watch Them Die are fantastic, but I have a feeling they are a very well known band, are they? if not, check them out.

Zao combine Metal with Hardcore, and they are brilliant. They are an old band, but anyone who hasn't heard them should now.

oh, and Norther = :yes:

[WizoOzz]

Oh yeah I forgot to mention my short experience of Life Of Agony at the Download Festival, I only saw the end of their set, but what I saw was very good.

Gnarly.

I saw them not too long ago, they actually played in this piddly ass state that I live in for free. It was fuckin' awesome. I was (naturally) drunk off my ass and banging on the stage until my fists and forearms were bruised, but hey...I got to pat Keith Caputo on the back, got two guitar picks from the band, and (and this is what matters the most) had an amazing time.

The roadies were dicks, though. But, hey...not everything can go 100% great.

Life of Agony > pretty much anybody.

[QuietStorm]

Ulver is my latest favorite band. Thought I would just say that in here and then pop out again.

[QuietStorm]

Thanks for giving me the initiative to get some Burzum, BurnZ. I had meant to for such a long time.

I burned that album and am listening to it at work now. It is awesome.

[TheRod]

And Fucking Hell, anyone who has not yet downloaded/bought/done whatever it takes to listen to BleedingThrough's 'This Is Love, This Is Murderous' and in particular, 'Revenge I Seek', really should RIGHT NOW.

Great CD for those into hardcore. Saw them at the Ozzfest, brutal set, one of the best sets on the second stage, I'd rank them in the top three that day.

[Throb]

Not really metal, but I suggest everyone check out Nonpoint's new cd "Recoil". It doesn't actually get released until tomorrow but I found an advance copy floating around. They've gotten away from rap-rock finally, and it's a decent release.

[Crabby]

From Blabermouth-

"Art rock pioneers QUEENSRŸCHE will perform the classic album "Operation: Mindcrime" in its entirety on the upcoming fall 2004/winter 2005 tour, which is being presented by VH1 Classic. A "greatest hits" set will open each show, and at the end of the night there will be a preview of the upcoming Sanctuary Records release "Operation: Mindcrime II", the working title of the long-awaited, eagerly desired sequel to the groundbreaking concept album. Audiences will be blown away by the Surround Sound audio setup on the tour.

Vocalist Geoff Tate, guitarist Michael Wilton, guitarist Mike Stone, bassist Eddie Jackson and drummer Scott Rockenfield will open each show with a "greatest hits" set ending with the smash "Silent Lucidity". Local orchestra string sections will perform with the band in select cities. Michael Igor Delassandra, formerly an official composer for the Vatican, will accompany QUEENSRŸCHE and perform on keyboards.

“The band is so excited to be performing 'Operation: Mindcrime' in its entirety again after not having done this in 15 years," says Tate. "We are presenting it in a whole new way that finally does justice the intricacies of the story and the personalities of the characters.”

"Operation: Mindcrime" will be recreated in full with enhanced production. Live actors will embody the fascinating characters of this chilling tale — interacting both on stage and off. Vocalist Pamela Moore, who toured with QUEENSRŸCHE recently, will be back to provide the vocals of the album's pivotal character, "Sister Mary". New video footage will be incorporated as well. QUEENSRŸCHE also performed "Operation: Mindcrime" in its entirety in 1990-91, but this time around new and expanded video footage will be used. Fans who saw the show in 1990-91 will enjoy a more vivid experience this time.

One of the most exciting parts of each concert will certainly be the finale — the preview of "Operation: Mindcrime II". Fans have wanted a sequel ever since "Operation: Mindcrime" exploded and earned the band critical acclaim and commercial success. In particular, fans have always asked one burning question in relation to the "Operation: Mindcrime" plot: "Who killed Sister Mary?" The new album, scheduled for release in 2005, will address that question."

I adore Queensryche,but this risks detracting from a masterpiece of an album methinks.Although it will answer a few questions,which will be pretty cool.

[Throb]

That's awesome. But yeah, they're walking a fine line on O:M II. It will be greatly anticipated and expected to be genius. However, I trust that they'll deliver.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I guess the question which needs asking is:

What will it actually be about?

Since last time Nikki was basically locked up in a mental hospital and told his entire story of the events leading to his locking up. Is there anything else he can comment on? Well besides the fact 10 years have passed I guess he could run into more trouble again.

Or will we get someone completely different? A differing perspectative? Dr X?

But can Queensryche, an aging early 90's rock band be able to pull off another harsh cynical concept justice album? The middle-aged never do quite capture that element the youth have of raging against society.

It'll be interesting, I just hope it won't fall into a gigantic hole.

[Crabby]

Well,I think they need Chris DeGarmo back on board permanently for starters.

I mean,in one sense they have nothing to lose,as their popularity has decreased so much these days.On the other hand,they run the risk of tainting their true masterpiece,the album that they will be long be remembered for reallly.

I found this in a Meshuggah interview-

"Well, that's the cool thing now -- we have the EP coming out this year and then _Catch 33_ around October / November. So that will be two releases in this year, and we won't tour for them. So right after they're released, we'll start on the next proper Meshuggah full-length. When we're done with that, we'll probably try to stay on the road for a while and get the most out of it. We also want to go to places we haven't been yet, like South Africa, Japan or Australia when we do that tour."

[Bandit]

For those of you interested, I wrote a review for www.metal-archives.com on the album "Kivenkantaja" from Moonsorrow and they posted it. I hope some of you read/enjoy it.

[Crabby]

I picked up my tickets for the Over 18's In Flames/Chimaira/Daysend show in Sydney.Yay.

I also bought Atreyu's "The Curse", which is pretty good and Nevermore's "In Memory" EP,which rules.

[Ringo]

In Flames when I saw them were fantastic. They played a couple of songs from the little known first album which I don't have nor have seen in the shops..


Mastodon new album out soon.. :cheers:

[Aussie_Outlaw]

The new Megadeth isn't honestly that bad.

Highlights I guess for it are Die Dead Enough, Something I'm Not, Tears In A Vial.

It's not like Old Megadeth, I guess its quite similiar to TWNAH, but its more accessable than TWNAH. it also seems darker in content, but accessable in music.

Has political themes running through the album. Which keeps me happy :)

I'll listen to it properly later.

[Grimario]

I would like to thank (blame?) you lot, A_O in particular for my recent obsession with pompous widdly widdly beedly beedly music. Blind Guardian, Hammerfall, Edguy, Rhapsody and Queensryche now dominate the metal in my music collection.

That is all.

[Crabby]

Nothing wrong with Queensryche dominating your listening,Grim.I might have to pick up their new live album,even though Geoff Tate's voice sounds kinda ordinary.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

I would like to thank (blame?) you lot, A_O in particular for my recent obsession with pompous widdly widdly beedly beedly music. Blind Guardian, Hammerfall, Edguy, Rhapsody and Queensryche now dominate the metal in my music collection.

That is all.

Don't blame me. I've hardly posted around these quarters recently. It's mainly been Bandit and the black/death metal bandits.

[WizoOzz]

In Flames when I saw them were fantastic. They played a couple of songs from the little known first album which I don't have nor have seen in the shops..

Jester Race? Lunar Strain? Which one?

Either way, though...you can't go wrong.

[Bandit]

Don't blame me. I've hardly posted around these quarters recently. It's mainly been Bandit and the black/death metal bandits.
There's no way I could have hooked him on the bands he said...go look at my CD collection. :p

And has anyone read my review for Moonsorrow?

-EDIT- Wizo, he probably meant Lunar Strain, seeing as he said he can't find the album in stores. :dunno:

[WizoOzz]

-EDIT- Wizo, he probably meant Lunar Strain, seeing as he said he can't find the album in stores. :dunno:

Possibly...

...but...

I had no problem finding any of the In Flames albums when I was buying them. Not even in the mainstream record stores around here...which is pretty crazy since they typically carry nothing of substance.

Anywho...even if he can't find 'em in stores, there's got to be some online option he's got...

-EDIT-
Oh yeah, and I failed to mention this earlier, but I just got the new Kittie album at freakin' Wal-Mart of all places.

Got some kewl tracks. It's got some iffy ones too, but overall, not too bad.

[Bandit]

Has anyone read my Moonsorrow review at Metal-Archives.com?

[Throb]

I read the review. Pretty good.

[Ringo]

Course I meant Lunar Strain. What do you take me for? :mad:

You think I've never herd of Jester Race? Their best work? (Well apart from maybe from Clayman.)

I'm offended.

[Crabby]

Personally,I'd have to say that Colony is my favourite album of theirs,followed by Clayman.I've been giving STYE plenty of listens lately and IMO it's still a decent album,and better than RTR anyway.

[Grimario]

Don't blame me. I've hardly posted around these quarters recently. It's mainly been Bandit and the black/death metal bandits.

Oh, I am blaming you from years ago.... I believe the majority of those bands were recommended to me by you, way back then :p

I've only just got around to getting them though, so that's why I am blaming you now

[Bandit]

Ahh, the good ole "Which In Flames album is the best?" debate. My favorite is Jester Race/Black Ash Inheritancem with both Whoracle and Clayman tied in second.

Those are pretty much the only In Flames albums I listen too that often. As for Colony, I only like a select few songs, that explains why it's not my favorite, the album as a whole is pretty bland compared to the others, in my opinion. As far as Lunar Strain/Subterranean, it's just too raw for In Flames I guess, just not used to it coming from them. R2R is bleh. STYE is common mallcore.

[Crabby]

STYE and RTR both have nu metal elements,but Soundtrack still has some tracks with a really cool,dark kinda vibe that stand up well for repeated listens.For mine,RTR gets pretty uninteresting after a few spins,though.

Still,I look forward to seeing em' live,as it's their first visit here and they're likely to play a pretty good range of material in their setlist which should be damn good.Chimaira will also be pretty cool if they stick to stuff from their last album.

Did you check out Devolved,Bandit?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

See the Chimera clip on Rage last night Crabby?

And the Dream Evil clip for Book Of Heavy Metal.

Twas hilarious, as I expect it to be.

[Crabby]

Nah,I didn't,which track was it for anyway?

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Power Trip

[Crabby]

Have you checked out Queensryche's "The Art Of Live" yet,Dave?

[Bandit]

STYE and RTR both have nu metal elements,but Soundtrack still has some tracks with a really cool,dark kinda vibe that stand up well for repeated listens.For mine,RTR gets pretty uninteresting after a few spins,though.

Still,I look forward to seeing em' live,as it's their first visit here and they're likely to play a pretty good range of material in their setlist which should be damn good.Chimaira will also be pretty cool if they stick to stuff from their last album.

Did you check out Devolved,Bandit?
The way I see it, STYE > R2R, yes, but it's also a lot more mainstream (which isn't necessarily bad) so the music doesn't have the same feel that In Flames has made for themselves from past albums.

I saw them live when they were on tour with KsE and As I Lay Dying, and they mostly just played stuff from R2R and SYTE, other than "Pinball Map" "Clayman" and "Behind Space", so take that as you will. :\

And no, I totally forgot to check out Devolved. :$

[Crabby]

I agree that it's far more accessible and may even be an attempt to attract some fans of more mainstream heavy music (although I don't agree with many people's opinions that they are sellouts).And it doesn't stand up to their back catalogue,but I gave it a number of chances and it's a decent listen really.And I think that they're likely to vary their setlist here anyway.

Check out Devolved.Now.

[Aussie_Outlaw]

Have you checked out Queensryche's "The Art Of Live" yet,Dave?

Nope, not yet.

Been busy with the new Megadeth, some Pain Of Salvation, some Spock's Beard and of course Edguy.

[Bandit]

I put a review up for Trollech at www.metal-archives.com and I recommend the site to all of you who have never seen/heard of it.

[WizoOzz]

Course I meant Lunar Strain. What do you take me for? :mad:

You think I've never herd of Jester Race? Their best work? (Well apart from maybe from Clayman.)

I'm offended.

:dunno:

Hey, some people don't know that Lunar Strain and Subterranean even exist, so they'd naturally consider The Jester Race to be In Flames' first album.

Thankfully, you know better.

And the fact that even though their newer material is more mainstream than their other albums, and they're still willing to play stuff from their first album (one of the albums without Anders on vocals) is pretty damned cool to me.

[Ringo]

Yeah. It's wrong when people accuse them of being poppy though. It's true they are MORE mainstream then their past albums, but 'The Quiet Place', and 'Trigger' aren't exactly pop songs. Far from it infact.



Well some very good news.


Zao's brand new album is out in 4 days!!!!!! They are described as 'Metalcore', but they are certainly alot more Metal I think.

Bleeding Through have a new DVD coming out soon. I heard one of the tracks and it's brilliant.

[Bandit]

In Flames aren't pop...they're just experimenting, trying new things, and that's never bad. After all the negative feedback on their new album, I'm sure it'll cause an improvement on albums to come. :yes:

[NiMMERS]

This thread should be renamed to the metalcore discussion thread.

Thing you need to listen to more of instead of In Flames and Bleeding Through...

-Morbid Angel
-Pig Destroyer
-Immortal
-Neurosis
-Electric Wizard

Fetch.

[Ringo]

Electric Wizard? Pah...

Others :yes:


and metal core is the best. :yesyes:

[NiMMERS]

and metal core is the best. :yesyes:

Wrong. Tripe.

Breakdowns are overrated.

So it metalcore....or mallcore if you're elitist.

[Ringo]

Well personally I'm a proud metalcore fan.


But Prog and Power Metal are better. :yes: