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MTR
April 1st, 2022, 10:41 AM
The draw for the Cup is today. Figured I would start a thread in this mostly dead forum now for the Cup that should be in the US and during the summer and not in Qatar in the winter but that is a whole other discussion. ;)

Anyway US in Pot 2. Hopefully avoiding any kind of group of death. We shall see. I think we can get out of the group stage if we are healthy and play the way we can play.

MTR
April 1st, 2022, 1:24 PM
England, Iran and European playoff winner for USA. I will take that. I think they can get out of that group. I was waiting for Ghana to be in our group though. lol

I think Mexico can come out of their group. Canada going to have a tough time. If Costa Rica gets in they will also have a tough time.

_me
April 1st, 2022, 1:36 PM
My god that was a long intro

MTR
April 1st, 2022, 1:49 PM
:lol: I was watching a live blog and when they got to the actual draw I switched over and streamed it.

Percussion
April 1st, 2022, 4:30 PM
I can dig this group.

Stoked actually to run it back versus England. Huge challenge but that's what we're here for. Iran can bring it but that's really a must (and should) win. Euro wild card still in play, though no one there scares me. They're all clearly beatable and a point to be had at worst if we're on our game.

This should be an excellent tune up for the boys as they grow into form to inevitably win it all at home in 2026..

Percussion
April 1st, 2022, 5:25 PM
Also this is a pretty rad simulator if you wanna take a spin at different results..

2022 FIFA World Cup Group Stage Points Simulator (https://ultra.zone/2022-FIFA-World-Cup-Group-Stage)

Tyson
April 1st, 2022, 9:08 PM
Nice draw for you Yanks, second spot is yours for the taking.

We got a much tougher group but fuck it, we’re going in with house money and nothing to lose; we have speed and skill up front plus a couple of kids who are looking to build their international name brand.

I’m super pumped about this tournament, the experience that Canada will draw from it in advance of hosting in 2026 will be immeasurable; I honestly think we will surprise people and be in the mix for advancement to the elimination round. Not going to lie, I got super emotional after the boys clinched on Sunday.

Percussion
April 2nd, 2022, 4:44 PM
I can see Canada getting out of their group, but it obviously will be far from easy. Belgium and Croatia, though still littered with world class talent, aren't getting any younger and this could be an opportune time to bounce one of them early. But this ain't concacaf and playing a low block and counter game will have to be surgically precise and without error. If nothing else Herdman will have them prepared and so as long as health is on their side they'll have a realistic fighting chance.

MTR
April 2nd, 2022, 5:34 PM
Yeah I don't think it is impossible for Canada to get out of their group but it won't be easy but I think they can pull it off.

Tyson
April 2nd, 2022, 8:37 PM
As weird/arrogant as it is to say considering how completely hapless Canada Men’s soccer has been, well forever, going to Qatar to get shutout and suffer three losses just isn’t going to cut it. The boys need to be competitive, at least prove to be a very tough out in this group stage, considering our shared hosting duties in 2026. We can’t just be happy to be there, we have a legit opportunity to make some noise.

While the nucleus of the team is still in their early-to-mid twenties themselves, I’m very hopeful that the next generation is watching and being inspired, that on-field success can become routine and expected.

We’re going to have to back up the Brinks truck for Herdman’s next extension.

_me
April 9th, 2022, 10:42 AM
I can dig this group.

Stoked actually to run it back versus England. Huge challenge but that's what we're here for. Iran can bring it but that's really a must (and should) win. Euro wild card still in play, though no one there scares me. They're all clearly beatable and a point to be had at worst if we're on our game.

This should be an excellent tune up for the boys as they grow into form to inevitably win it all at home in 2026..
The WC is going to be horrible in the US. It is going to get completely buried. It is happening during the most important part of the college and pro football seasons. Not to mention the start of basketball season. Such a stupid idea; no one is going to be talking about it here.

Percussion
April 9th, 2022, 3:42 PM
If the argument is that it's stupid to hold the World Cup in Qatar I'd absolutely agree. But once it was decided to be there there was no way they could stage it at the usual time of year from June into July.

And with what they paid to broadcast the event it's not like Fox isn't going to promote the shit out of it. I think it'll get it's mostly usual run of attention. Sports networks and the like are always content starved as it is.

MTR
April 9th, 2022, 4:12 PM
Yeah the timing sucks but that is what happens with the corrupt FIFA gave Qatar the cup. It is disrupting leagues due the timing being during all the regular seasons except for MLS. Yeah in the US it falls during the end of college football and nearing the end of NFL. The game on black Friday should get some attention though. No pro games on that day and not many college games. Plus it is against England. At the end of the day popularity is still growing here in the states. Great strides have been made but still down on the totem poll when it comes to pro and international sports.

Percussion
April 9th, 2022, 4:20 PM
Fortunately they hooked us up in the states with the latest possible kickoff times for our group stage matches..

_me
April 9th, 2022, 4:29 PM
If the argument is that it's stupid to hold the World Cup in Qatar I'd absolutely agree. But once it was decided to be there there was no way they could stage it at the usual time of year from June into July.

And with what they paid to broadcast the event it's not like Fox isn't going to promote the shit out of it. I think it'll get it's mostly usual run of attention. Sports networks and the like are always content starved as it is.
I don't care it is in Qatar as much as I care it is in the middle of the season. It is going to ruin the second halves of so many seasons when the players are exhausted.

The US is not starved for content in November. People don't even want to hear about the World Series anymore. All football, all the time from August to February.

I don't want to be the arrogant American who thinks the world need to plan shit around us; but it also sucks for the rest of the world too. I am just saying as a fan of "soccer" in America, the tournament will be ignored by every station except FOX and that sucks. The World Cup final is on the same day as NFL games, Sunday 12/18 which means they will barely even show the game because Cowboys vs Giants is always going to be more important.

_me
April 9th, 2022, 4:36 PM
Fortunately they hooked us up in the states with the latest possible kickoff times for our group stage matches..
America's first knockout game is either going to get scheduled against the Conference Championship games for college football or Week 13 of the NFL. That is a death sentence.

Percussion
April 9th, 2022, 5:03 PM
I just meant from the standpoint of those looking forward to watching will be able to do so at a reasonable time..

I honestly couldn't give a shit if anyone else chooses to watch other stuff.

_me
April 11th, 2022, 5:52 PM
I just meant from the standpoint of those looking forward to watching will be able to do so at a reasonable time..

I honestly couldn't give a shit if anyone else chooses to watch other stuff.
As long as you have access to FS2…

Percussion
April 11th, 2022, 8:08 PM
As long as you have access to FS2…

What does fs2 have to do with anything?

_me
April 11th, 2022, 9:11 PM
That is where the games are going to get shown.

Percussion
April 11th, 2022, 9:16 PM
That is where the games are going to get shown.

Well I assume you're just guessing here because you're flat out wrong.

They'll all be shown on fox and fs1, with the majority - including all but 2 of the knockout games - on fox.

Percussion
June 1st, 2022, 2:47 PM
One step closer to finding out our final group opponent with Scotland v. Ukraine this afternoon..

Winner to take on Wales this Sunday in the qualifying playoff final.

Badger
June 2nd, 2022, 5:50 AM
Well done to Ukraine. Totally deserved it and played us off the park.

Caito
June 5th, 2022, 11:58 AM
Is this the final qualifier match in general as well?

Percussion
June 5th, 2022, 2:09 PM
edit -

Wales/Ukraine was one of the last 3 remaining qualifiers for the final tournament in November. Wales advances.

There's still Costa Rica v. New Zealand and Peru v. the winner of Australia/United Arab Emirates left to sort out in the next couple weeks.

Badger
June 5th, 2022, 2:50 PM
Although it was pretty lucky as that free kick was going nowhere, well done Wales. Sorry Ukraine.

Percussion
June 13th, 2022, 5:28 PM
Congrats to the Socceroos..

MTR
June 14th, 2022, 1:24 PM
Last qualifier today. Costa Rica vs New Zealand

Caito
June 14th, 2022, 4:26 PM
What time?

MTR
June 14th, 2022, 4:28 PM
It would seem it already happened earlier. Costa Rica won.

US plays tonight at 9 CST on FS1

Nations League game against El Salvador

Percussion
June 16th, 2022, 5:56 PM
Houston was picked as a host city..:panic:

I'm effin going to the effin world cup..:wiggle:

Tyson
June 17th, 2022, 12:09 AM
Same for me, here in Vancouver.

Caito
June 17th, 2022, 6:55 AM
I see Gillette got a location secured.


First Army/Navy, now this. Love it

MTR
June 17th, 2022, 10:29 AM
KC is a host but no way I can afford to go to a game. :(

Mazer
June 17th, 2022, 12:18 PM
Come on down. We'll con some drunk motherfucker

MTR
June 17th, 2022, 12:51 PM
I will keep that in mind when the time comes.

Mazer
June 17th, 2022, 12:58 PM
Please do.

If you haven't robbed a person of a World Cup ticket......can you even say you've ever really robbed someone?

Vegas82
June 21st, 2022, 6:01 PM
I will keep that in mind when the time comes.


Please do.

If you haven't robbed a person of a World Cup ticket......can you even say you've ever really robbed someone?

And if all else fails you can always drown your sorrows in BBQ. Honestly, probably more fun to watch on TV with the ticket money spent on more dead cows and pigs anyway.

Percussion
June 21st, 2022, 8:10 PM
And if all else fails you can always drown your sorrows in BBQ. Honestly, probably more fun to watch on TV with the ticket money spent on more dead cows and pigs anyway.

I think for a majority of sorts events I'd agree that watching from the comforts of home on tv is often a better option nowadays - advances in tv tech, broadcasting, and exorbitant ticket prices and all that. But, at least just speaking for myself, the world cup is kind of a different beast. The 4 year wait and rotating continent schedule make it such a rarity to get to experience live, plus the abundance of games (80! in 2026) means there'll still be plenty to catch from the comfy home setup while still getting to take in a likely once in a lifetime sportsfan opportunity.

I'm certainly going out of my way to try and get myself in stadium for one of these badboys.

Mazer
June 21st, 2022, 10:17 PM
Yeah, I wanna catch one in person. Kind of a once in a lifetime for me.

MTR
June 22nd, 2022, 10:22 AM
Yeah. I will be watching ticket prices and such. I really want to catch a game no matter who is playing.

Tyson
November 6th, 2022, 8:33 PM
Not going to lie, news of Alphonso Davies’ injury a mere three weeks away from Qatar was an absolute gut punch.

Bayern’s medical staff says it’s “only” a strain, but we needed that dude at 100%.

:scared:

Percussion
November 9th, 2022, 12:05 AM
Roster reveal tomorrow at 4pm cst on espn2.

Looks like not too many surprises on the horizon other than the rumor just in that Zack Steffen is out at GK and Turner, Horvath, and Sean Johnson are in. Assuming Malik Tillman is in as is considered most probable we're really looking at only one spot up for grabs between Paul Arriola, Jordan Morris, and Christian Roldan.

The roster's been 90+% built towards for months now barring any late arriving injuries so it should be mostly anti-climactic, which I'm good with as all that's left now is to finish off the league schedule this weekend in good health and train and focus on Qatar. 8 long years is down now to less than two weeks and it can't get here soon enough.

:shakefist:

Badger
November 9th, 2022, 3:01 AM
Sepp Blatter admitting giving the World Cup to Qatar was a mistake.

Noooo you don’t say Sepp!!!

Murphy
November 9th, 2022, 8:36 AM
It's weird still to me that this is taking place mid-season and in winter, but got a week off to start the tournament, so still excited for it to start.

Players are going to be knackered going in and the games come thick and fast, so can see the squads being needed more than ever.

Have a feeling England don't get any further than the round of 16, though to be honest, I have no idea how the groups match up and the draw opens up.

MTR
November 9th, 2022, 6:37 PM
US roster revealed. Some questionable decisions were made. Not sure how I feel about this roster.

Percussion
November 9th, 2022, 9:55 PM
4 legit surprises by my count. 1 big one, 1 mild one, and 2 moderate ones.

Haji Wright over Pepi or Pefok is the big one. I can see wanting a target forward if we're chasing a goal late but if that's the need then I'd have preferred Pefok. He killed it in the Swiss league last year and has done the job for a top Bundesliga side the first half of this season.

Christian Roldan and Shaq Moore over Malik Tillman and Reggie Cannon are less shocking but head scratchers nonetheless. Glad there's not a bit of quid pro quo going on with Tillman as I'd rather we not operate that way with dual nationals. That said Roldan has offered the square root of absolutely nothing with the national team. I just don't get it. And I thought Gregg would have preferred the versatility Cannon could provide as a FB or CB in a pinch.

And Jordan Morris over Paul Arriola is the least shocking. Really not surprised at all to see Morris on the plane as much as I am to see Arriola not get his ticket punched. Arriola's been a darling of Gregg's all qualifying and he's honestly worked his tail off every time he's had an opportunity. He doesn't offer a ton in the attack but he's a dog up and down the flank and I could see him used if we ever had a late lead just to terrorize the opponents possessions. And really I don't see all that much the Jordan offers that Paul doesn't, but here we are.

Frankly I'm not too too bothered with any of them as their genuinely the last four selections of the squad. Wright is really the only one I see getting many minutes that matter I we situationally/tactically choose to do so. The other 3 should only see the field of there's much in the way of injury or card accumulation. In Roldan's case I believe we'd need to be up 8 or so or have had a kidnapping of a third of the team.

We knew the big contributors would be there so the real question marks were the handful of backups who have a real chance of seeing the field when it matters through rotations or injuries. Joe Scally, Cameron Carter-Vickers, Tim Ream, Luca de la Torre, and Josh Sargent (though he may actually start) are the guys I had my fingers crossed for and they made it so I'm happy there.

Only names I would've chosen otherwise would've been Mark McKenzie for Aaron Long (but Long was always going) and Djordje Mihailovoc for Roldan, but alas they didn't ask me.

MTR
November 10th, 2022, 11:22 AM
No Pepi or Pefok is a bit surprising and the other big surprise for me was Steffan. I know that there was not a clear cut top keeper but he had been leaning to Steffan in bigger games and Steffan was loaned out to get playing time on a club level. Not sure what was going on there.

We shall see how it goes.

Percussion
November 10th, 2022, 4:11 PM
Eh, Steffen was doing literally nothing with City, and when he did get the rarest of chances to glove up with them he flubbed the shit out of it. Meanwhile his move to Middlesbrough has been as lukewarm as could be. It's sad on a personal level after everything he did this past cycle to help us get to Qatar, but professionally speaking he's really regressed to the point that I don't see any real dropoff from him to Horvath or even Johnson for that matter.

MTR
November 18th, 2022, 11:50 AM
So earlier this week it was said that Qatar wanted to move where beer sales were in the stadium and now they said no beer sales at all at the stadiums. What the fuck. AB is like a huge sponsor of these games. As soon as it was confirmed that Qatar bribed their way to hosting and they got rid of some of the douche bags behind that FIFA should have taken it away from Qatar and gave it to the US who could easily host with shorter notice and honestly should have won that bid anyway and then just redo the 2026 voting. This has been a disaster from the get go.

Dreyski
November 18th, 2022, 3:20 PM
I drew Australia and Senegal in our office sweepstake so I suspect my main enjoyment will be seeing how many teams/players turn up in rainbow gear, and seeing how Saudi (diplomatic conflict) and Iran ('wrong' branch of Islam) fans get treated in Qatar.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-jnFTNu-8sbk%2FYMtLBw4OwcI%2FAAAAAAAAHpY%2FHfK5MA-szDEKd1tivz7zbHI0UDf-a6OyQCLcBGAsYHQ%2Fs0%2Fus-pride-10.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=c15fa7bcda05cdfa01d6aa12ad5364698fc3a0afa371cd 737ad062db3670a4f5&ipo=images

Percussion
November 18th, 2022, 8:54 PM
So earlier this week it was said that Qatar wanted to move where beer sales were in the stadium and now they said no beer sales at all at the stadiums. What the fuck. AB is like a huge sponsor of these games. As soon as it was confirmed that Qatar bribed their way to hosting and they got rid of some of the douche bags behind that FIFA should have taken it away from Qatar and gave it to the US who could easily host with shorter notice and honestly should have won that bid anyway and then just redo the 2026 voting. This has been a disaster from the get go.

Fuck Qatar, and further that fuck FIFA..

..but to be a bit honest I'm glad there wasn't a last minute switch to us hosting. Sure we could've pulled it off in a pinch, and absolutely Qatar have no business putting on a celebrated spectacle the likes of the World Cup. BUT, I'd rather us have another four years to get our boys that much more seasoned and have one more cycle to see who can climb the ranks from the youth pool. 2026 feels almost too perfect with this core group of youngsters plus whomever be coming through the developmental pipeline.

Also it'll be interesting to watch the squirming that'll take place for the next month as the bad press continues to pour in and FIFA and the Qatari Federation have to eat the shit sandwich they themselves made.

For instance there are groups of fans who've been paid by a Qatari group to attend the tournament, all expenses everything including a per diem, on the condition they do so while positively promoting the event both live and through social media. Those 'fans' have all of a sudden had their daily funding cut off out of nowhere due to the bad press they've been receiving. How many other ways will Qatari authorities go back on their words?

Fans paid to attend World Cup by Qatar have daily allowance cancelled (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/18/fans-paid-to-attend-world-cup-by-qatar-have-daily-allowance-cancelled?CMP=share_btn_tw)

Tyson
November 20th, 2022, 6:50 AM
Fuck Qatar, and further that fuck FIFA..

Egg on both partiesí faces, Iím all for itÖ :dx:

Caito
November 20th, 2022, 10:50 AM
A lot of us are still gonna watch, which means majority of the outrage will mean absolute dick for this edition of the WC

Caito
November 20th, 2022, 11:02 AM
Speaking of….. a fine Rajahite set up this World Cup bracket on ESPN for ppl to sign up for.


https://fantasy.espn.com/games/qatar-world-cup-challenge-2022/group?id=3e38d9bc-3e41-42f4-8347-ae7eff145b6c&joining=true

Dreyski
November 20th, 2022, 1:07 PM
Qatar have been garbage, even with the brown envelope being dropped off at VAR headquarters…Netherlands will be on them like the new guys in prison :scared:

Badger
November 20th, 2022, 3:03 PM
https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/a9/03/P5idgHkJ_t.jpeg

Sums it up really.

Percussion
November 21st, 2022, 5:56 AM
Color me effin' nervous..

73 teams have won their first group stage match since the current format started in 1998..

61 have gone on to qualify for the knockout rounds. 12 have not.

So an 83.6% chance of advancing having won your opening match.

Conversely of those opening stage matches 73 have also lost.

8 have gone on to qualify and continue, while 65 have not.

You do that math. It's pretty bleak.

MTR
November 21st, 2022, 1:02 PM
Probably should have set my dvr to record the game this afternoon. I will watch what I can while at work.

Mazer
November 21st, 2022, 3:40 PM
that's what I'm doing. Watching from my phone at work.

MTR
November 21st, 2022, 3:41 PM
I missed first 20 minutes shelving books but working at my desk for the time being and have it on a tab on my browser.

Mazer
November 21st, 2022, 4:36 PM
I got out of a meeting about 5 minutes before the goal. decent timing

Mazer
November 21st, 2022, 4:40 PM
Shit

MTR
November 21st, 2022, 4:48 PM
Dumb penalty to give up. Kudos to our keeper for getting a hand on it but yeah too powerful of a shot to really deflect out of there. Both teams really need a win here. England is probably going to win the group and I would think both of these teams can beat Iran so going to come down to these two teams for the second team to go through.

MTR
November 21st, 2022, 4:52 PM
Tired of both teams having players flop around.

Caito
November 21st, 2022, 7:16 PM
US needs to at least draw with England now, and hopefully England beats the Welsh

Percussion
November 21st, 2022, 8:37 PM
They don't really need to draw with England.

4 points could still well get us out of the group.

MTR
November 21st, 2022, 9:11 PM
A draw would be nice but not needed as long as win the last game against Iran.

_me
November 22nd, 2022, 1:46 AM
A draw would be nice but not needed as long as win the last game against Iran.

Most likely scenario is Wales and USA both beat Iran and both lose to England. That means tied at 4 points and down to goal differential to see who goes through.

Badger
November 22nd, 2022, 8:31 AM
Argentina. :lol:

Not the best start to Messi’s last World Cup!

MTR
November 22nd, 2022, 1:44 PM
I have been shelving so not checking on games. Fuck that is something else for them to lose to Saudi Arabia. That second goal for SA was fantastic by the way. Just watched the highlight.

Argentina can still get through though but shit that was a shocker.

Dreyski
November 22nd, 2022, 9:25 PM
Agree with the thought that we'll draw with the US and beat the Welsh. After that I wouldn't like to predict.

Saudis do pop up with amazing goals every now and again. Check out 1994 vs Belgium. Argentina vs Mexico is now massive, shame it's in the middle of a desert.

France were due an implosion (see 2002 & 2010), especially with injuries, but an impressive start nonetheless.

Percussion
November 23rd, 2022, 1:07 AM
Agree with the thought that we'll draw with the US and beat the Welsh. After that I wouldn't like to predict.

As an English fan how do you think the team would approach the Wales game if y'all were to beat us and therefore be assured a spot in the knockout rounds?

Rest your regular starters in all likelihood, but do you think they'd ease up sort of mentally knowing it's not a must to get a result or go all out regardless because you just want to stick it to the Welsh?

Badger
November 23rd, 2022, 11:03 AM
Another upset! Japan we’re magnificent in that second half whereas Germany were bloody dogshit

MTR
November 23rd, 2022, 11:20 AM
I didn't watch but saw the score. Two upsets early on in group play.

Fanny Batter
November 23rd, 2022, 12:10 PM
The consensus for England was to win the group to avoid an Argentina-Brazil path to the final, but who knows. I think if Wales and Iran draw and England beat USA they'll be resting players against Wales (not that means they lose - second string is still stronger on paper than Wales), as it wouldn't make sense not to with the games coming thick and fast. 9 days off for players at an early stage would be a godsend coming off a busy domestic fixture list. Chickens, hatched, of course.

The Wales result against Iran will change the strategy for the States I think. If it's a draw or an Iran win they'll be conservative and be content with a draw and chance their hands at beating Iran and making sure England need a result against Wales. I'd favour Wales based on them playing England last, honestly. But I don't think Iran are done either.

I think Germany go out. They need a Costa Rica result here honestly, to bring Spain out against them on Sunday. Spain content not to push will frustrate Germany and I don't think 4 points will do. What a huge game that is.

Saturday's line up is the one for me though - France vs. Denmark and Argentina vs. Mexico - Denmark are a great side who could trouble France, and Argentina will be out with a loss. Results so far favour a tense game 3 which isn't always the case.

Dreyski
November 23rd, 2022, 4:26 PM
If Canada had a decent finisher here they'd be out of sight.

Dreyski
November 23rd, 2022, 4:37 PM
As an English fan how do you think the team would approach the Wales game if y'all were to beat us and therefore be assured a spot in the knockout rounds?

Rest your regular starters in all likelihood, but do you think they'd ease up sort of mentally knowing it's not a must to get a result or go all out regardless because you just want to stick it to the Welsh?

To be honest it depends on what team we'd see against the US. If he picks the same XI as against Iran, I'd hope we see some changes against Wales. Hopefully Phillips, Alexander-Arnold and Foden get a start. Pickford and Kane seem untouchable.

And I'd hope we don't ease up becuase everyone's playing for a place, but I'm also prone to worrying that our opponents (club and country) care about the game more than we do.

Badger
November 23rd, 2022, 10:32 PM
To be honest it depends on what team we'd see against the US. If he picks the same XI as against Iran, I'd hope we see some changes against Wales. Hopefully Phillips, Alexander-Arnold and Foden get a start. Pickford and Kane seem untouchable.

And I'd hope we don't ease up becuase everyone's playing for a place, but I'm also prone to worrying that our opponents (club and country) care about the game more than we do.

I’d be surprised if they eased up against Wales. Even if they already qualified nobody would let them forget it if they lost lol.

Gareth Bale is always the danger man too.

Tyson
November 24th, 2022, 8:27 AM
TLDR: #WeCAN.

I somehow managed to keep it together while watching via the TSN app on my iPhone while in the office this morning. When I gpt home yesterday evening to watch the PVR’d preshow and opening 20 minutes, I could not. Numerous times, I cried tears of joy while watching something I (in my early forties) never dreamed possible, particularly while mired in the depths of darkness that has been Canada Soccer my whole life. Before the John Herdman era, there has been nothing but pain and embarrassment; now, it feels like the world is at our fingertips.

As I’m a little removed from yesterday’s events, I offer my thoughts. Does the loss sting? A little. Did I expect us to control, dare-I-say even dominate, our opener against one of the premier countries in the world? Hell no. While I thought we’d lose, I entered this morning with the tempered expectation of hoping to be competitive. “Keep it within a goal or two, just don’t get your doors blown off”. We exceeded that, immensely. Ultimately, it came down to a world power capitalizing on one of their rare opportunities and showing us what it takes to win at this level.

I have absolutely no issue with Davies taking that penalty. He’s the face of the franchise, we go only as far as he takes us. While it can be armchair quarterbacked that there were others with better statistical odds/success, Alphonso being the one to bag the country’s first ever World Cup goal would have done wonders for his (and the team’s) confidence. For the whiners that say the miss cost us the match, I say pound sand; it happened in the 10th minute, we had a full game after that where we could (should?) have won.

A massive game against Croatia on Sunday, a must-win if we have hopes of reaching the knockout round. Based on how we showed up against the world #2, I feel extremely confident. I also feel that if we can get an early first goal against on Sunday, the next ones will come in bunches; we have too much skill and speed up front to get shutout in group play.

My only hope is that John Herdman stays with us through the end of his contract in 2026. If this team continues its upward trend through the next World Cup (which we host), dude will be able to call his shot anywhere in the world. If Canada backs up the Brinks truck and makes him the uncontested shotcaller with an open chequebook and free reign to do as he sees fit, sign me the fuck up. That said, there are way more prestigious opportunities out there, I wouldn’t fault him one bit if he decides to cash-in and strike while the iron is redhot.

:canada:

MTR
November 25th, 2022, 1:57 PM
Oh shit. Just woke up and caught last 15 minutes or so of the Ecuador/Netherlands game. Was checking scores and saw that Wales lost to Iran. Didn't see that coming.

And Qatar is first team eliminated.

MTR
November 25th, 2022, 8:19 PM
England did not play a good game and we did. Hate we couldn't finish but I will take the draw. But we have to beat Iran to advance. That is doable but we shall see how it goes.

Badger
November 25th, 2022, 9:18 PM
Good result for you guys I think and the group is quite permeable. Wales have next to no chance unless they beat England by a chunkable margin which I somehow doubt. Think you guys have a shot against Iran you can catch them as not taking anything away from them but Wales fucked themselves that second half especially Hennessey being sent off which really shouldnít have needed a VAR. Great goals from Iran to be fair to them and they deserve it but if you guys can hold it together unlike Wales did and get in one or two, think you have a real shot here qualifying with England.

Hero!
November 26th, 2022, 2:04 PM
Wow, the English are so bad at footie it’s kind of amazing.

Good thing Portugal are in this tournament to show how proper European football is played. :heart:

Dreyski
November 26th, 2022, 6:34 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/58/5c/88/585c8819d6d2341c37bb4eacf59f5659.jpg

Dreyski
November 26th, 2022, 6:40 PM
Good thing Portugal are in this tournament to show how proper European football is played. :heart:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFDoPRSnefE

Dreyski
November 26th, 2022, 6:55 PM
Boo, Fifa.

Yeah, England were dogshit, but you can see the result as a sign of progress vs USA:
1950 - Humiliation
2010 - Drew
2022 - Kept a clean sheet
Next time, surely?

In other news, France are through, and Argentina keep their hopes alive. I expect them to go through becuase they should be beating Poland. Denmark are looking precarious and will have to beat Australia to progress.
Double boo to Fifa for making Saudi vs Iran & Serbia vs Croatia very unlikely to happen. That said, Serbia vs Switzerland might be a bit tasty, with the Kosovan heritage Shaquiri and Xhaka, and Ghana vs Uruguay, in a rematch from 2010 with the Suarez handball and all that.

Tyson
November 27th, 2022, 2:13 PM
All in all, a positive experience in Qatar for the Canadian side.

First appearance at the World Cup in multiple decades? Check.
First ever goal at the World Cup? Check.
Taken to the learning tree by two of the top football nations in the world? Unfortunately, yes.
Eliminated after the group stage? Unfortunately, yes.
Now we get to play spoiler against Morocco, put that first ever win on the board.

This next cycle will be very interesting, given they are no longer an unknown entity on the world stage. Expectations will be much higher as one of the co-hosts, they need to get to the knockout stage in 2026.

#WeCAN :canada:

MTR
November 27th, 2022, 2:49 PM
Hell of a game against Belgium. I was rooting for your side. Hate that they are out now. Should be fun to watch in 4 years.

Murphy
November 28th, 2022, 10:52 AM
9 days off work, back today and the World Cup comes alive within hours of me being back at my desk. :lol:

Mazer
November 28th, 2022, 3:50 PM
I have to try to watch the match while in an in-person meeting with 7 other people tomorrow.

This might be my Lou Brown in Major League 2 moment.

MTR
November 28th, 2022, 3:54 PM
Good luck with that.

I am doing billing so that means at my desk all day but I am in a cubicle where people will walk by. I will probably have it on in the corner of one of my monitors so I can keep tabs on it and listen to it. I wear headphones while doing billing all the time listening to music on my computer so no big deal there. I should be able to cover it up easy enough if there is a lot of people walking through my area.

Mazer
November 28th, 2022, 5:03 PM
I might have to pretend I'm excited about a proposal I hate as a cover-up at some point.

Percussion
November 28th, 2022, 5:06 PM
So heading into matchday 3 for each group now with 3 teams (France, Brazil, Portugal) having already advanced, 2 teams (Qatar, Canada) having been eliminated, leaving a remaining 27 teams still vying for 13 spots to begin the knockout phase of the tournament..

.. with14 teams to be eliminated in the next 4 days.

It's a mad dash now.

Hero!
November 28th, 2022, 5:32 PM
Another win for the good guys. :wiggle:

MTR
November 29th, 2022, 3:54 PM
Great first half and a lead for the US. I think it should be 2-0 and that the technology was off on that last offiside call. ;)

MTR
November 29th, 2022, 5:21 PM
And we survived and made it. Nice to get out of group even if that means we have to play the Netherlands.

lotjx
November 29th, 2022, 11:20 PM
America!

Percussion
November 30th, 2022, 1:56 AM
Well that was a little too intense, ya? But so goes elimination soccer..

Hats off to the boys for going out in the first half and essentially demanding the go ahead goal from Iran, and obviously to Pulisic in particular for sacrificing his rocks for the cause. Should've come away with a second frankly - and well could have if not or the current shit definition of offside - with the amount of pressure we were exerting on them and the kinds of touches around the box and crosses we were delivering.

But alas we had to defend a one goal lead against a desperate team fighting against it's chances fading, and this is where I would criticize some of the decision making, once again. Love the Zimmerman sub, and love seeing Aaronson on for Pulisic early, but Haji Wright was as useless as Anne Frank's drumset. Wright did literally nothing of any value whatsoever. And for as good as Brenden did at times keeping the ball moving forward against their attack all the defensive subs gave him no one to play off of to retain and hold possession. This would've been an incisive time to see Gio Reyna come in and perform his wizardry on the ball to wind the game down, and perhaps even get a match killing 2nd goal. Beyond headscratching what's kept him off the field thus far this tourney.

All in all though the initial goal was always to get out of the group - especially after the 2018 debacle - and throw our best haymakers at whatever would come next, and here we are so congrats all around.

Now, fuck the Dutch. This is one of the weaker sides they've fielded in many iterations, and some would argue there significant matchups we win on paper. But they're the odds on favorite which is totally reasonable. That said I like our chances to make their Saturday hell and then some. Can't effin wait.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/hXJ1MWMzY7Af32UIUD/giphy.gif?cid=6c09b9522583663b2e87f76f209e87364d98 af8879e7f5b9&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g

MTR
November 30th, 2022, 11:31 AM
Yeah I have been surprised at the lack of Reyna playing time.

We need to throw everything we have at the Dutch on Saturday.

This is such a young team. Looking forward to how things look in 4 years at the next Cup.

Percussion
December 1st, 2022, 4:27 AM
This is such a young team. Looking forward to how things look in 4 years at the next Cup.

At the risk of being too much of the 'we're just about there' guy, I can't help but agree. The young core will surely only mature and develop further, while we've got loads of kids in the pipeline clawing it out against one another in the usynt program and plying their own developments here and abroad. If we can just keep this continuity while hitting on that number 9 we haven't had since I suppose Jozy was in peak form and perhaps get a couple of our young CBs to really establish themselves then ya, 2026 is gonna be full of some pretty unreal hype. And I will absolutely be a part of that.

I mean, this time 4 years ago no one couldn't have predicted just how much guys like Dest, Musah, McKennie, Adams, and Aaronson were going to blossom and arrive. Let's just keep this train rolling.

MTR
December 1st, 2022, 1:30 PM
Belgium are out. Didn't see that coming.

Mexico fired coach after missing out on advancing. Ouch.

MTR
December 1st, 2022, 5:35 PM
German out as well.

Randolph
December 2nd, 2022, 2:19 AM
German out as well.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psgn0kMfafo

Murphy
December 2nd, 2022, 8:30 AM
That was a bit dramatic last night. Fair play to Japan. Beating Germany and Spain, losing to Costa Rica. Mad group.

Can't see much drama occurring today, but the knockouts start tomorrow!

Badger
December 2nd, 2022, 11:05 AM
Happy Spoony got to have his moment for the Canucks.

MTR
December 2nd, 2022, 2:04 PM
Look at the Asian teams go. While we are the only ones from our region to move on.

Dreyski
December 2nd, 2022, 3:02 PM
South Korea through at the expense of Uruguay, so now only Brazil can go through the groups with a perfect record.

MTR
December 2nd, 2022, 5:03 PM
And Brazil lost but they of course were already moving on to the knockout stages.

Percussion
December 2nd, 2022, 9:18 PM
An aerial view of the controversial Japan goal simultaneously advanced the Japanese and knocked Germany the fuck out..

https://p.potaufeu.asahi.com/0270-p/picture/27258163/5337be67ee676c946bcbba9c4be5e981.jpg

..showing that the tracking data was in fact correct after all, even if by the tiniest of imaginable margins.

Badger
December 3rd, 2022, 12:57 PM
Sorry about today guys but the Dutch were on form. You’ve given a good accounting of yourselves and got a good squad to build on for the future.

lotjx
December 3rd, 2022, 1:00 PM
Oh good, we can stop caring about his massive human rights violation.

MTR
December 3rd, 2022, 1:14 PM
Defense lapses cost us today. we went at them and didn't just play defense. I have enjoyed that about this team at the cup. We went at people. 2nd youngest team. Undefeated in the group. I will take it. I can't wait to see how they do in 4 years here in the US at the next Cup.

Percussion
December 3rd, 2022, 1:29 PM
Oh good, we can stop caring about his massive human rights violation.

I honestly don't know where we'd be as a developed society without herculean contributions like this from lotjx on rajah wrestling forums..

lotjx
December 3rd, 2022, 8:53 PM
I honestly don't know where we'd be as a developed society without herculean contributions like this from lotjx on rajah wrestling forums..


400 to 500 dead for no good reason.

Percussion
December 4th, 2022, 3:53 AM
Preach

Tyson
December 5th, 2022, 1:44 PM
Dang. Penalty kicks are cruel.

MTR
December 5th, 2022, 1:52 PM
Hate PKs. I get that you have to have a winner but I hate them.

Donald
December 6th, 2022, 1:50 PM
I suspect it will be France or England vs. Brazil or Argentina in the final.

MTR
December 6th, 2022, 1:53 PM
Still hate PKs

MTR
December 6th, 2022, 3:07 PM
Ronaldo got his ass benched. Man he needs to quit being a douche. :)

Hero!
December 6th, 2022, 5:46 PM
Ronaldo got his ass benched. Man he needs to quit being a douche. :)

And then we won 6-1 ain’t that great?

Donald
December 7th, 2022, 9:37 AM
Are you Aldo Montoya

Peter Griffin
December 9th, 2022, 5:51 AM
It's coming...

Murphy
December 9th, 2022, 7:51 AM
I've got problems, man. Even the thought of the game tomorrow causes me mild anxiety.

Get a fucking grip, mate. :lol:

Peter Griffin
December 9th, 2022, 8:42 AM
I'm not as worried about France as I would have been biofeedback the start. Obviously a major threat but we have played well ourselves

lotjx
December 9th, 2022, 9:33 AM
After watching the FIFA Doc on Netflix, let me just state that I am glad Americans don't really give a shit about this.

Donald
December 9th, 2022, 10:30 AM
Oh you are such a moral human being.

MTR
December 9th, 2022, 1:48 PM
Fuck. Brazil out.

Donald
December 9th, 2022, 5:13 PM
What a crazy day for the World Cup!

MTR
December 9th, 2022, 5:18 PM
Yeah Argentina and the Dutch are in extra time after a last minute goal in the 11th minute of stoppage time.

Percussion
December 9th, 2022, 5:38 PM
This match is bonkers..

Badger
December 9th, 2022, 6:54 PM
Dutch bottled it in on those first two penalties. Congrats to Argentina though, after their early Saudi Arabia defeat and how good the Dutch have been, had my doubts. Sentimental favourite for Messi but as long as it’s not England lol….jokes.

As far as Brazil goes, as much as a nanny pamby wank Neymar is when he sells a gentle tap like he’s been shot, he does deliver why they held him back for the later pens is a bit beyond me. I sorta get it but I’m of the mind if you got good penalty takers then get them on first.

Dreyski
December 9th, 2022, 7:17 PM
Dutch were one Van Nistelrooy and Van der Sar from a great team. A Sneijder wouldn't have hurt either.

Dreyski
December 9th, 2022, 7:23 PM
And I think England beat France one game in three. It's all about how we deal with the pace of Mbappe and Dembele, because I think they can be got at the back.

But signs are pointing to a Argentina/Portugal final becuase FIFA think people want to see Messi and Ronaldo.
(And the Qatari royal family own PSG so will do FIFA over like a kipper again)

Badger
December 9th, 2022, 7:34 PM
Argentina/Portugal would be lit. Messi vs Renaldo the obvious hype.

Early prediction but England/France 1-1 after normal/extra time but France win on penalties. No anti-English humour bias/there but just got a feeling they could cave under the pressure. If that turns out to be wrong then will fully accept and congratulate you guys but at the same time have to laugh at the media overhype if you fail not the team personally.

Dreyski
December 9th, 2022, 8:38 PM
You got your French shirt at the ready? Practiced La Marseillaise? :p

England are a quarter final team. Given favourable draws (1990, 2018) or home advantage (1996, 2021) we can overperform, but that's our natural limit.
But imagine when the world cup expands to 48 teams and Scotland still fail to qualify :lol:

Dreyski
December 9th, 2022, 8:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nugmBqZ_S3c

Badger
December 9th, 2022, 8:47 PM
You got your French shirt at the ready? Practiced La Marseillaise? :p


Actually did have a France 98/02 shirts at the time but they’ve since been in the Salvation Army clothes recycling since.

If anyone ever got them, enjoy!

MTR
December 9th, 2022, 11:26 PM
US writer Grant Wahl died while covering the game today. He was only 48 years old. Lots of conspiracy theories going on due to his support of the LBQT community and speaking out against things over at Qatar.

Fro
December 10th, 2022, 12:14 AM
Iím not a soccer fan so I didnít know that guy but RIP. If he was poisoned that would be so fucked up. He said he had bronchitis for a couple days so idk if thereís a poison that would have those symptoms. Curious to see what a poison expert would say and what happens with the body/autopsy.

Fuck FIFA. Fuck Qatar. Fuck the World Cup honestly.

Badger
December 10th, 2022, 12:47 AM
It’s been one of the most interesting World Cup tourneys so far but also at the same time one of the most politically controversial ones. IMO FIFA made this bed with Qatar’s help and now they have to lie in that bed including those migrant workers that died building those stadiums and those fans that came over that now won’t get paid nor can buy booze in the stadiums despite Budweiser being the sponsor.

Hard to do for some I know but if you can take the politics aside, it’s definitely been one of the more interesting tournaments where at this point there’s no outright favourite and anyone can beat anyone else on the right day. This part I do like.

Badger
December 10th, 2022, 1:02 AM
If these surprise football results happened anywhere else that was hosting it, think most fans would be praising it but in this case the shadow will always be there til this cup ends. FIFA have apparently shown regret (well according to Blatter) but what’s done is done and hopefully they are more careful about who should host in future.

At the very least probably should enjoy more football til this ends then next tournament hosted by a country more capable and equipped.

Percussion
December 10th, 2022, 6:07 AM
Iím not a soccer fan so I didnít know that guy but RIP. If he was poisoned that would be so fucked up. He said he had bronchitis for a couple days so idk if thereís a poison that would have those symptoms. Curious to see what a poison expert would say and what happens with the body/autopsy.

Fuck FIFA. Fuck Qatar. Fuck the World Cup honestly.

Fuck the NFL and the NBA too?

Fro
December 10th, 2022, 8:15 AM
Fuck the NFL and the NBA too?

What is the NFL/NBA comp to this Qatar stuff? Not saying they’re perfect but they’re not having the Super Bowl in Saudi Arabia and causing thousands of deaths and enforcing no homosexuality

_me
December 10th, 2022, 10:46 AM
They knelt during the national anthem. Clearly that is the same thing…

Badger
December 10th, 2022, 12:59 PM
Morocco upset the odds again!

Commiserations Hero!

Dreyski
December 10th, 2022, 1:02 PM
:rofl:

Dreyski
December 10th, 2022, 1:04 PM
We'll see you in the departure lounge tomorrow, mind.

Tyson
December 10th, 2022, 2:48 PM
Group of Death 2022, Group F was.

:canada:

Percussion
December 10th, 2022, 3:53 PM
What is the NFL/NBA comp to this Qatar stuff? Not saying they’re perfect but they’re not having the Super Bowl in Saudi Arabia and causing thousands of deaths and enforcing no homosexuality

Are the NBA in bed with China?

Does the NFL give the first fuck about someone who molests 20+ women?

Percussion
December 10th, 2022, 3:53 PM
They knelt during the national anthem. Clearly that is the same thing…

Also you're a gasbag dumbass..

Fro
December 10th, 2022, 4:31 PM
Are the NBA in bed with China?

Does the NFL give the first fuck about someone who molests 20+ women?

These are pretty weak comps so I will respectfully agree to disagree.

The NFL suspended Deshaun Watson for the civil suit against him so yes they care. And all the major American sports leagues are growing their interest in China. I'll be honest I don't know the extent of the NBA's business ties with them but just saying "in bed with" to compare it to the Qatar World Cup is flimsy. You can educate me on that comparison if you want.

Tyson
December 10th, 2022, 4:36 PM
These are pretty weak comps so I will respectfully agree to disagree.

The NFL suspended Deshaun Watson for the civil suit against him so yes they care. And all the major American sports leagues are growing their interest in China. I'll be honest I don't know the extent of the NBA's business ties with them but just saying "in bed with" to compare it to the Qatar World Cup is flimsy. You can educate me on that comparison if you want.

Point, Fro.

Badger
December 10th, 2022, 4:44 PM
Ooft. Kane completed bottled it!

Badger
December 10th, 2022, 5:05 PM
Nice £60 win. Thanks France and Kane for missing when it counted.

Tyson
December 10th, 2022, 5:05 PM
Ooft. Kane completed bottled it!

LOVE to see it. :lol:

Hero!
December 10th, 2022, 5:11 PM
We are all losers today, friends.


till the next time!

Badger
December 10th, 2022, 5:13 PM
LOVE to see it. :lol:

Did a Roberto Baggio lol.

Peter Griffin
December 10th, 2022, 5:13 PM
Ooft. Kane completed bottled it!

How did Scotland get on etc .

Donald
December 10th, 2022, 5:34 PM
We are all losers today, friends.


till the next time!

I'm a loser everyday

MTR
December 10th, 2022, 5:36 PM
Kane should have buried that one. England was the better team and France survived.

Tyson
December 10th, 2022, 5:51 PM
Anybody but France, to be honest.

I’m fine with Messi winning on the way out the door…

Dreyski
December 10th, 2022, 6:15 PM
Did a Roberto Baggio lol.

As per the commentator: Needed a Gary Lineker, got a Chris Waddle.

The refs in the later stages have been shocking.

HHHnFoley_Rulez
December 10th, 2022, 6:23 PM
I feel sick. France are the better team but England put in a good performance and have nothing to be ashamed of.

Just need better strikers. Kane is good but sits in midfield. Got saka and foden as playmakers for Maguire in the box...

Dreyski
December 10th, 2022, 6:40 PM
I'd rather we went through, but I feel worse about the horror show at Ewood earlier in the afternoon TBH.

Badger
December 10th, 2022, 9:22 PM
How did Scotland get on etc .

See that doesn’t work as most of us have come to terms/gotten used to failures but we love the sport anyway lol.

Badger
December 10th, 2022, 10:41 PM
As per the commentator: Needed a Gary Lineker, got a Chris Waddle.

The refs in the later stages have been shocking.

Oh no doubt, he was bad for you guys tonight. Missed that foul on Saka and also think you should’ve had an earlier penalty as the tackle was hovering on the line.

Percussion
December 11th, 2022, 5:36 AM
These are pretty weak comps so I will respectfully agree to disagree.

The NFL suspended Deshaun Watson for the civil suit against him so yes they care. And all the major American sports leagues are growing their interest in China. I'll be honest I don't know the extent of the NBA's business ties with them but just saying "in bed with" to compare it to the Qatar World Cup is flimsy. You can educate me on that comparison if you want.

No worries on agreeing to disagree, there's plenty of room for judging these things not exactly the same as one another.

That said, a man has been accused - and let's be honest, we have a good idea that it's certainly more than an 'alleged' issue - of sexually assaulting over 20 women and was rewarded with a slap on the wrist and $230M guaranteed. I'm not at all getting genuine care there, but sure let's agree to disagree.

And the NBA's business ties with China are massive. Only a little less massive than China's human rights violations for years and years and years now. I think no question debatably more so than that of Qatar. Hong Kong, Taiwan, Tibet, etc. It's an enormous list of atrocities that I've barely typed a few out.

We can absolutely agree on fuck Qatar and fuck FIFA, and you obviously don't have to give the first fuck about the world cup, no worries there either, but I don't see a ton of support for fuck some things that are much closer to home that are just as morally reprehensible that we simply prefer to just enjoy.


Point, Fro.

Reading this made me feel infinitely better about myself given the source..

Peter Griffin
December 11th, 2022, 7:29 AM
See that doesn’t work as most of us have come to terms/gotten used to failures but we love the sport anyway lol.

See that little etc on the end, that indicates I'm just saying it because you laugh at as, I.e. it's same old banter.

Thing is this, From say 2006 to 2018, when we exited tournaments it was mostly in shame having been appalling, but since then I have been nothing but proud.

Peter Griffin
December 11th, 2022, 7:30 AM
As per the commentator: Needed a Gary Lineker, got a Chris Waddle.

The refs in the later stages have been shocking.

I did not like that line at all, Unnecessary on all fronts.

Chris
December 11th, 2022, 8:41 AM
That line was so stupid. Matterface is horrible on commentary.

England have nothing to be ashamed of. There wasn’t much between the teams and they didn’t lose their heads when France got the first goal. The referee was dreadful. Southgate has done a lot to turn England around - they can now feel confident of going far in tournaments without it sounding arrogant. He’s still too slow at making substitutions, but he has a young group who will get even better over time. Bellingham and Saka in particular will shine in future tournaments.

I hope Messi can sign off his international career by winning the big one.

Badger
December 11th, 2022, 8:50 AM
See that little etc on the end, that indicates I'm just saying it because you laugh at as, I.e. it's same old banter.

Thing is this, From say 2006 to 2018, when we exited tournaments it was mostly in shame having been appalling, but since then I have been nothing but proud.

It’s more the media and commentators falling flat on their faces going on about 66 I laugh at in these situations. Still though…

It was coming home and must’ve reached home by now. Hope it had a safe flight. ;)

Peter Griffin
December 11th, 2022, 9:09 AM
They are literally in the air as we type.

Fanny Batter
December 11th, 2022, 4:19 PM
Elliott-Rice-Bellingham should be a formidable midfield three in time. Foden, Rashford and Saka should get better. The worry is centre back - Chilwell and Sessegnon should kick on at left back, right back has so many options. Tomori, Guehi, Gomez and White could come with international experience though. Kane fading is something to look out for too, but if Rashford plays through the middle for United going forward that would hopefully cover that.

Romford Pele
December 12th, 2022, 6:03 AM
Pretty unfortunate that exit. Thought we were the better team 2nd half.

I think if we can improve at centre half and have more depth upfront we can win the Euros. We weren't far off from beating the world champions.

Donald
December 12th, 2022, 9:04 AM
You'll be saying the same thing in 2 years.

Romford Pele
December 12th, 2022, 9:08 AM
Well no as the world cup is in 4 years Donald.

Donald
December 12th, 2022, 10:23 AM
True. I think in 2 years you'll be saying we could have won the euros, but by the world cup we will win.

Romford Pele
December 12th, 2022, 11:49 AM
Meh, I think this is the strongest team/squad we have had probably for 20 years. We just need to convert the opportunities we have, which we didn't do against France.

MTR
December 13th, 2022, 1:44 PM
Messi is going to break the record for most appearances in a World Cup this week. Didn't realize he was close to the mark.

Percussion
December 13th, 2022, 2:26 PM
Kinda sucks this is gonna be the last world cup - and likely last international appearance - by one ballon d'or legend or another..

Percussion
December 13th, 2022, 3:39 PM
Unfortunate set of events for Croatia, but an absolute beauty of a ball sent from deep to split the cbs into space..

edit: and just like Alvarez scores uhh, something, of a goal.. wow.

MTR
December 15th, 2022, 11:55 AM
So who does everyone think going to win? Does France go back to back or does Messi get the trophy that he has yet to win?

I am leaning Argentina. France is damn good but I think Messi and company will win out.

Tyson
December 15th, 2022, 1:11 PM
Pulling for Messi and Argentina here.

Fro
December 15th, 2022, 1:20 PM
Argentina all the way.

3puppies
December 15th, 2022, 3:57 PM
I have to always root against the French.

_me
December 16th, 2022, 11:11 AM
Argentina actually makes me root for the French. They are so annoying. The whine and complain about everything; they are super dirty while also being super soft and diving all the time.

Murphy
December 16th, 2022, 11:54 AM
Argentina actually makes me root for the French. They are so annoying. The whine and complain about everything; they are super dirty while also being super soft and diving all the time.

Whilst I see your point, you've seen Argentina play, right? :lol:

Not fussed who wins, hope it's a good game.

Badger
December 18th, 2022, 11:38 AM
Total dominance so far by the Argentines. Great second goal.

Badger
December 18th, 2022, 12:44 PM
What a turnaround. Now it’s a game!!

Badger
December 18th, 2022, 1:40 PM
This is just fuckin amazing!!

MTR
December 18th, 2022, 1:48 PM
What a game. Insane

I still fucking hate PK's deciding a game especially a World Cup but it is what it is.

Lets see who pulls it out.

Badger
December 18th, 2022, 1:56 PM
Well done Messi/Argentina! Amazing final!

Tainted Eclipse
December 18th, 2022, 2:03 PM
That was one heck of a game

MTR
December 18th, 2022, 2:07 PM
Well done Argentina and glad to see Messi get his Cup

_me
December 18th, 2022, 2:09 PM
The damage caused by that stupid tournament is just starting. Thankfully it is over. There are going to be so many injuries the next 3 months.

Badger
December 18th, 2022, 2:18 PM
The damage caused by that stupid tournament is just starting. Thankfully it is over. There are going to be so many injuries the next 3 months.

There’s always one…

Bet you were just waiting keys poised by the keyboard for hours just to post that.

Chris
December 18th, 2022, 2:46 PM
Argentina were coasting for 70 minutes then Mbappe suddenly turned it around and the drama was outstanding from that point onwards. So delighted for Messi. Wonder if he’ll finally call it a day on the international stage or try for another Copa America.

Romford Pele
December 19th, 2022, 6:06 AM
Wow crazy game. I wanted France but am happy for Messi.

Mbappe didn't deserve to be on the losing side. Imagine being on the losing side in the world cup final and scoring a hattrick.

The rest of the Argies are horrible cheating bastards though.

Percussion
December 19th, 2022, 6:44 AM
Was rooting for Messi throughout as I'm a sucker for a good sports fairytale, and in this case the chance to, live, in my lifetime, witness genuine once in a generation greatness. And so we did.

The storybook part of this is almost too much. The unrivaled club success for so very long opposite the desperation of the national team struggles. And almost the instant his club situation uproots leaving his career at large looking unfathomably rocky his national team fortunes answer equally and oppositely back. A loud and emphatic Copa America championship, a Cup of Champions trophy (is what it is but nonetheless a trophy amongst an otherwise barren international cupboard), and in the most dramatic and captivating way one could draw up the trophy of all trophies. All of a sudden a whirlwind of the kind of success he'd pined for well over a decade. Genuinely, almost comically, sports poetic.

Congrats to Argentina on the whole, the squad man for man, Scaloni, and of course the goat.. unique and clearly flawed but entertaining tourney, unbelievable final, thrilling finish, and the bow of all bows on top with the legend absolutely completed.

That was fun.