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Spudz Mackenzie
December 4th, 2019, 10:40 PM
That was a Hell of a botch.

VHS
December 4th, 2019, 10:43 PM
Ok, why did Daniels leave the ring to get the mic stand just to throw it away?

Spudz Mackenzie
December 4th, 2019, 10:46 PM
The “Fat Boy” Jelly Nutella.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 4th, 2019, 10:48 PM
“Rattle Snake tendencies” says JR.

That’s high praise coming from him.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 4th, 2019, 10:50 PM
JR just name dropped Renee Young.

Nice.

VHS
December 4th, 2019, 10:51 PM
Mox should decimate Joey in 5 minutes.

Morrison
December 4th, 2019, 11:03 PM
great bounce back show from last week. happy to see some motivations and character progression for a bunch of people, especially the newer faces.

Psycho666Soldier
December 4th, 2019, 11:06 PM
Hell of a live show. I actually had two groups of friends I was sitting with, going back and forth between the seats. When I was on my way back for the main event, I got to catch Moxley's entrance from the hallway. Snapped a bunch of video and pictures. It was badass.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 4th, 2019, 11:08 PM
That was a damn fun show.

BGMaverick
December 4th, 2019, 11:48 PM
What was up with the sound level for the intros to the opener?

It was pretty silly and funny that they did the Britt Baker shot from Takeover.

I presume the Nightmare Collective is just a watered down Straight Edge Society.

Definitely a step in the right direction with progressing stories.

Sinner
December 5th, 2019, 12:15 AM
I can't wait to tell my co workers about this great new wrestler. her gimmick is that shes an alien that crash landed in long island and then went to wrestling school. Her entrance video had aliens in it and she had this weird futuristic type outfit and make up. She hung upside down and even Booped the referee like ET.

"Oh! wow, that's so cool! What's her name?"

Kris Statlander.

"That's stupid as shit"

Spudz Mackenzie
December 5th, 2019, 12:25 AM
I'd call her Erin Terrestrial.

Get it? Eh, eh? Get it?

E.T.

Sinner
December 5th, 2019, 3:04 AM
i should take back the Rep points I gave you

Peter Griffin
December 5th, 2019, 4:41 AM
Imagine wasting time on a TV show that you hate.

Well I mean people did it every week in the raw thread back when people posted in them lolz, I look forward to watching this hopefully this evening

Murphy
December 5th, 2019, 6:54 AM
:fingersx: Pete.

:D

Peter Griffin
December 5th, 2019, 7:38 AM
:scared:

Murphy
December 5th, 2019, 8:27 AM
I've stopped watching AEW Dark now. Can't seem to be able to find it on the YouTube app via Sky, but can find it fine on other devices. :dunno:

BGMaverick
December 5th, 2019, 5:15 PM
Week one: 1,409,000 viewers
Week two: 1,018,000 viewers (plus 122,000 on TruTV)
Week three: 1,014,000 viewers
Week four: 963,000 viewers
Week five: 759,000 viewers
Week six: 822,000 viewers
Week seven: 957,000 viewers
Week eight: 893,000 (first week to lose to NXT)
Week nine: 663,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 10: 851,000 viewers

Donald
December 5th, 2019, 5:19 PM
That's a huge leap. Maybe the Thanksgiving holiday had to do with the low count last week.

Nash Diesel
December 5th, 2019, 6:01 PM
That's a huge leap. Maybe the Thanksgiving holiday had to do with the low count last week.

Maybe. I also think there is a ton of crossover appeal just like the Monday Night Wars. There weren't really 15 million fans watching wrestling every week, it was a lot of people bouncing back and forth.

Nowadays with DVR, the Network, I think that the more interesting of the shows just happened to win. More people, imo, were going to see what was going to happen with the other brands and then last week you had the fall out of 2 shows (War Games and Survivor Series).

The good news is, at least for NXT, they had even more viewers this week than last week. So that to me answers the questions I've had.....Did the build with the 3 brands battling help? Yes. And did that help keep the momentum going for NXT? Yes.

I think both shows just need to keep delivering. NXT just needed the eyeballs, most of us who watch NXT already knew that. Those of us who only watch Raw and Smackdown needed to be educated. And the people who watch AEW, I'd put money on it that the majority love NXT as well and a lot of them probably tuned in to watch NXT because it was the more exciting of the 2 at that moment.

BGMaverick
December 5th, 2019, 6:11 PM
The December 18 episode for both brands should be quite interesting. I think both are going to be pushing harder for it to be must-watch episodes. At this point, NXT has the edge in that regard.

Sinner
December 5th, 2019, 8:05 PM
I'm hoping we can get the following Championship Matches in 2020:

-Chris Jericho (c) vs. Dustin Rhodes
-Chris Jericho (c) vs. Fenix
-Chris Jericho (c) vs. Jon Moxley
-Jon Moxley (c) vs. Jake Hager
-Jon Moxley (c) vs. Adam Page
-Jon Moxley (c) vs. Pentagon
-Jon Moxley (c) vs. PAC
-Jon Moxley (c) vs. Kenny Omega

Psycho666Soldier
December 6th, 2019, 10:12 AM
Moxley is definitely a foregone conclusion. I'm assuming that's the next big program for Jericho, and since he is refusing to fight him, that's probably what'll be dragged out until the next PPV. Maybe the homecoming show.

I generally like the list, though. Seeing either of the Lucha Bros in a world title match would be badass.

Sasori
December 6th, 2019, 12:18 PM
Wow, that was a nasty bump Daniels took on the moonsault. I couldn't tell if he hit his head or not. This was his in ring TV debut for AEW, so it's a shame that happened. At least he seems to be fine.

Anyway, I agree that this was a marked improvement over last weeks show. My only real complaint was the segment with Brandy and Kong. I don't know where they're going with this stable, but I'm not feeling it at the moment.

Donald
December 6th, 2019, 12:24 PM
What's Tye Dillinger been doing lately? I haven't seen his name mentioned in a few weeks.

BGMaverick
December 6th, 2019, 12:50 PM
Wow, that was a nasty bump Daniels took on the moonsault. I couldn't tell if he hit his head or not. This was his in ring TV debut for AEW, so it's a shame that happened. At least he seems to be fine.

Anyway, I agree that this was a marked improvement over last weeks show. My only real complaint was the segment with Brandy and Kong. I don't know where they're going with this stable, but I'm not feeling it at the moment.

There just feels like a general sense of redundancy in some form with Dark Order, Nightmare Collective, and Butcher & Blade. They're not carbon copies of each other but they've got to do some work over the next few weeks to really distinguish what exactly is the difference for the three of them. The easiest one to distinguish appears to be Nightmare Collective because it feels like it's solely a women's division act.

Nash Diesel
December 6th, 2019, 12:52 PM
Brandi Rhodes is a beautiful woman.

Psycho666Soldier
December 6th, 2019, 1:51 PM
There just feels like a general sense of redundancy in some form with Dark Order, Nightmare Collective, and Butcher & Blade. They're not carbon copies of each other but they've got to do some work over the next few weeks to really distinguish what exactly is the difference for the three of them. The easiest one to distinguish appears to be Nightmare Collective because it feels like it's solely a women's division act.

I wouldn't really lump the Butcher & The Blade in there because they take the role of renegade trio who just want to fuck shit up and maybe might be guns for hire. I can see the point with The Dark Order and the Nightmare Collective, though, as they both seem to be factions based on recruitment. I do think you could compare the three for being "dark" gimmicks.

Sasori
December 6th, 2019, 5:21 PM
There just feels like a general sense of redundancy in some form with Dark Order, Nightmare Collective, and Butcher & Blade. They're not carbon copies of each other but they've got to do some work over the next few weeks to really distinguish what exactly is the difference for the three of them. The easiest one to distinguish appears to be Nightmare Collective because it feels like it's solely a women's division act.

They do seem to be going overboard with this kind of gimmick. Brian Alvarez made a good point in that, if they're going to have multiple cult-like groups, don't put them all on the same show. Spreading them out would at least make the similarities less apparent.

NWo4LifeOr2Years
December 7th, 2019, 2:07 PM
Imagine wasting time on a TV show that you hate.

Yup. Imagine.....

I can't do it any longer with this glut of flippy kilcks that have simply replaced the overused clothesline of the nineties :barf:

Sinner
December 7th, 2019, 2:16 PM
If i were to quit watching AEW it would be because every single match ends after the opponent kicking out of AT LEAST 2 finishers. The third might keep someone down, if it's off the top rope or onto a chair.

Parity is not good for a new company. They need KILLERS. Omega, Moxley, Jericho, Cody, PAC, Hangman should all be virtually untouchable. These guys are not WWE guys, they are WWE CANT HAVES.

Kenny should come in and decimate, he's a former IWGP Champion. We should all be asked ourselves "why have I never seen this guy, he is THE BEST'' but he's just another dude.

Sinner
December 7th, 2019, 2:17 PM
I think Hangman screwed up his career by not staying in Japan for last years G1.

He would have went far in that.

Psycho666Soldier
December 7th, 2019, 8:15 PM
I mean, Moxley and Jericho have been pretty untouchable. Hangman needs time to grow before he can be on that level. PAC has eaten like, what, one loss? Omega is clearly in the middle of a story concerning him not able to seal the deal when it matters. And Cody is constantly involved in the most story-heavy angles that cater to him not having the best W/L record. I don't think they've really miscued on any of these guys. I think Omega not feeling like a great star has more to do with his delivery than any kind of booking issues.

Also, pretty sure Mox, Jericho and PAC have mostly not had their finished kicked out of. Hell, Omega, too. But I agree the rest of the roster could use a bit of taming in that department.

Nash Diesel
December 9th, 2019, 1:50 PM
I think Hangman screwed up his career by not staying in Japan for last years G1.

He would have went far in that.

I think he screwed up his career by being bland.

In all seriousness, he's a guy that if more people could get familiar with and maybe see something in he could go far. But I never ever ever hear anyone talking about him, even leading up to fighting Jericho he just never seemed to make any waves.

Donald
December 9th, 2019, 2:36 PM
So what you're saying is, he isn't elite?

Nash Diesel
December 9th, 2019, 2:41 PM
So what you're saying is, he isn't elite?

He is, purely by association. If he truly was, people would be talking about him, people would have been rooting for him to beat Jericho because they like Adam Page. Not because Jericho's old or a former WWE guy or to "shock the system" as another group likes to preach. But because they wanted Adam fuckin Page baybay as their World champion.

Donald
December 9th, 2019, 2:43 PM
They should get Adam Page in the WWE, and have him feud with Adam Cole, and their dads, Diamond Dallas and Michael, can act as their managers.

Nash Diesel
December 9th, 2019, 5:02 PM
They should get Adam Page in the WWE, and have him feud with Adam Cole, and their dads, Diamond Dallas and Michael, can act as their managers.

That just reminded me of the time where it seemed like the only 2 names you were allowed to have in Ring of Honor was Jay and Adam.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 11th, 2019, 9:07 PM
Who's hyped for some AEW...

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1154465197312106497/z8GD0Lw3_400x400.jpg

Spudz Mackenzie
December 11th, 2019, 9:11 PM
Jericho is Hollywood Hulk Hogan and Moxley is basically Diamond Dallas Page or Sting.

Everything old is new again.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 11th, 2019, 9:12 PM
They just bleeped Excalibur saying "shit".

Wonder why?

Tainted Eclipse
December 11th, 2019, 9:12 PM
i like the look of the building tonight

Spudz Mackenzie
December 11th, 2019, 9:14 PM
Big Swole (stupid name, by the way) was in a women's division tag-team match on AEW Dark. She wrestles with all the grace and dexterity of a drowning swimmer.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 11th, 2019, 9:16 PM
The Butcher, The Blade, The Baker, and the Candlestick Maker out tonight.

Okay, that thing with the apple that Cody and QT just did was pretty neat. Too bad QT's jobbing.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 11th, 2019, 9:31 PM
Good stuff. That was maybe more competitive than it should have been, but QT looked great in that match.

Its kind of annoying that nobody wants to admit that The Butcher was already pretty famous before he was a wrestler. They ignore kayfabe in everything else except for the thing that could help get The Butcher and The Blade over a little faster.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 11th, 2019, 9:35 PM
Cody Rhodes did this exact same angle in Ring of Honor, with a diamond ring gimmick and making people "kiss the ring".

Sinner
December 11th, 2019, 9:47 PM
I'm offended at AEW making fun of people with lisps, and saying HONKY when that is just as bad as the N-Word to some people.

OFFENDED. something must be done. This is way worse than that Scooter Hate Speech

Spudz Mackenzie
December 11th, 2019, 9:51 PM
Big Swole (who sucks) vs. Margaret Cho dressed like Freddie Mercury.

https://frinkiac.com/meme/S08E02/171420.jpg?b64lines=IFRoaXMgaXMgYm9yaW5nLiAKTGV0J3 Mgd2F0Y2ggc29tZXRoaW5nCiBlbHNlLiA=

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I think everyone on the commentary team had a series of small strokes before this segment went on the air.

Sinner
December 11th, 2019, 9:54 PM
Ugh. I changed the channel and got Mia Yim.

This is the worst timeline, isn't it?

Spudz Mackenzie
December 11th, 2019, 9:57 PM
Ugh. I changed the channel and got Mia Yim.

This is the worst timeline, isn't it?

Mia and Dakota Kai are tearing shit up.

At least Mia Yim doesn't look like a fat Margaret Cho, right?

Sinner
December 11th, 2019, 10:02 PM
I don't care what she looks like, she can have really good matches.

But that Sakura vs Swole match was easily the Longest Worst Match of the Year.

Pure torture

Spudz Mackenzie
December 11th, 2019, 10:04 PM
I don't care what she looks like, she can have really good matches.

But that Sakura vs Swole match was easily the Longest Worst Match of the Year.

Pure torture

Big Swole is the Big Shits.

Peter Griffin
December 11th, 2019, 10:18 PM
Mia and Dakota Kai are tearing shit up.

At least Mia Yim doesn't look like a fat Margaret Cho, right?

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Spudz Mackenzie
December 11th, 2019, 10:18 PM
If you gave Joey Nutella a machine gun and eight other guys to help him, I refuse to believe he could so much as look at Tully F'n Blanchard the wrong way without Tully gutting him like a fish.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 11th, 2019, 10:20 PM
What the fuck is wrong with you?

Not a damn thing.

That match fucking sucked. Mia Yim and Dakota Kai are pretty good.

VHS
December 11th, 2019, 10:24 PM
AEW love their cults. :dunno:

Spudz Mackenzie
December 11th, 2019, 10:27 PM
AEW love their cults. :dunno:

Almost like their fan base.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 11th, 2019, 10:39 PM
Holy shit, that announcer billboarding segment was some of the most confused, graphics guys can't get on the same page as the booth bullshit I've ever seen from a "major" company, not called "WCW".

Amazing.

https://frinkiac.com/meme/S04E15/106505.jpg?b64lines=IE1hcnR5OiBEb2luZyB0aGUgTW9uc3 RlcgogTWFzaCB3aXRoIHlvdSBvbiB0aGlzCiBiZWF1dGlmdWwg VmFsZW50aW5lJ3MKIERheS4gQmlsbDogTWFydHksIHdoeSBkaW QKIHlvdSBwbGF5IHRoYXQgc29uZyB0b2RheT8=

Sinner
December 11th, 2019, 10:43 PM
I actually prefer it to WWE's hyper-produced overly-scripted bullshit product-placement pandering to simpletons. Nothing feels organic in WWE..and AEW captures that and I, personally, like it

Spudz Mackenzie
December 11th, 2019, 10:46 PM
Kaz drinks Bud Light.

Ha.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 11th, 2019, 11:00 PM
Bucks/Not-LAX was damn fun stuff. Maybe a few too many casual table bumps, but that was fun. The four-way, no-rules approach plays pretty well into The Bucks' style. The only thing that isn't going to hurt on those four guy's bodies tomorrow morning are their pajamas.

BGMaverick
December 12th, 2019, 12:22 AM
Some pretty good stuff sprinkled all across in the show.

I'm glad the lack of the women's champion was addressed at least. How long has Riho been gone for, at least a month? I'm confused as hell as they're promoting the fourth and fifth-ranked women are competing next week with the winner becoming the No. 1 contender.

Omega really felt like he was on a different level in the tag match. He definitely came across as a big deal. I like the tension being built between Omega and Hangman.

That main event went through more tables than WWE will all of Sunday, I imagine.

BGMaverick
December 12th, 2019, 5:23 PM
Week one: 1,409,000 viewers
Week two: 1,018,000 viewers (plus 122,000 on TruTV)
Week three: 1,014,000 viewers
Week four: 963,000 viewers
Week five: 759,000 viewers
Week six: 822,000 viewers
Week seven: 957,000 viewers
Week eight: 893,000 (first week to lose to NXT)
Week nine: 663,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 10: 851,000 viewers
Week 11: 778,000 viewers (tie)

Matthew
December 12th, 2019, 6:09 PM
wow, that spudz comedy show in here is woeful.

decent show, nothing amazing. jericho on commentary was great. luchasaurus will be getting a title shot by the end of 2020. the slow build for the omega/hangman feud is nice, as well.

kinda hope that jungle boy doesn't go the full 10 minutes next week.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 12th, 2019, 7:01 PM
wow, that spudz comedy show in here is woeful.

decent show, nothing amazing. jericho on commentary was great. luchasaurus will be getting a title shot by the end of 2020. the slow build for the omega/hangman feud is nice, as well.

kinda hope that jungle boy doesn't go the full 10 minutes next week.

My “comedy show”? The Hell are you talking about? I was just offering my thoughts on the show while I was watching it.

Morrison
December 12th, 2019, 10:28 PM
My “comedy show”? The Hell are you talking about? I was just offering my thoughts on the show while I was watching it.

yeah, with a bunch of shitty references and attempts as being clever.

HEY SHE LOOKS LIKE MARGARET CHO GUYS JELLY JANELA LOL.

you're not as funny or entertaining as jim cornette. stop aping his personality.

Horatio
December 12th, 2019, 10:38 PM
Maybe he is Jim Cornette. I wouldn't know...

Psycho666Soldier
December 12th, 2019, 11:30 PM
So, https://www.joindarkorder.com is an actual website.

Thinking about signing up to see what happens.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 13th, 2019, 12:34 AM
yeah, with a bunch of shitty references and attempts as being clever.

HEY SHE LOOKS LIKE MARGARET CHO GUYS JELLY JANELA LOL.

you're not as funny or entertaining as jim cornette. stop aping his personality.

Its called "having fun", you giant, ulcerous cunt of a human.

Morrison
December 13th, 2019, 1:17 AM
Its called "having fun", you giant, ulcerous cunt of a human.

you are real bad at it.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 13th, 2019, 2:05 AM
you are real bad at it.

Only when you're here to fuck it up.

Matthew
December 13th, 2019, 9:40 AM
nah, it was cringeworthy from the get go

VHS
December 13th, 2019, 4:18 PM
wow, that spudz comedy show in here is woeful.

decent show, nothing amazing. jericho on commentary was great. luchasaurus will be getting a title shot by the end of 2020. the slow build for the omega/hangman feud is nice, as well.

kinda hope that jungle boy doesn't go the full 10 minutes next week.


My “comedy show”? The Hell are you talking about? I was just offering my thoughts on the show while I was watching it.


yeah, with a bunch of shitty references and attempts as being clever.

HEY SHE LOOKS LIKE MARGARET CHO GUYS JELLY JANELA LOL.

you're not as funny or entertaining as jim cornette. stop aping his personality.


Its called "having fun", you giant, ulcerous cunt of a human.


you are real bad at it.


Only when you're here to fuck it up.


nah, it was cringeworthy from the get go


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3J3RPX3gVg

Murphy
December 13th, 2019, 6:51 PM
This week’s Dynamite still not on ITV Hub. Fucking shambles.

Peter Griffin
December 13th, 2019, 7:25 PM
This week’s Dynamite still not on ITV Hub. Fucking shambles.

No shit, I rage tweeted the AE hierarchy and said they should rip up the deal lolz

Peter Griffin
December 13th, 2019, 7:33 PM
No tweet at all from itv wrestling since Dec 5th either.

Murphy
December 15th, 2019, 9:30 AM
Doesn’t sound like it’s going very swimmingly at all. On what should just a great platform for them. Balls.

Also, what the fuck are they doing with the editing? This week, they came back from commercial in the main event and the voice over is Jericho saying ‘Welcome back to Dynamite’, problem being, he was commentating on the match before the main event and not the main event itself.

Piss poor. The little added voiceovers are pointless to begin with!

chatty
December 15th, 2019, 9:51 AM
ITV are utterly hopeless with sport. I mean they nearly destroyed the premier league within a year od getting them and could have bankrupted themselves.

They got an agreement for Premier Boxing Championship at the beginning of the year and that was over by July, they also messed up the World Boxing Super Series thebyear prior and lost that.

I mean they had the rights to show the fights of Deontay Wilder, Errol, Spence, Manny Pacquiao, Keith Thurman, Caleb Plant, David Benevidez, Chris Eubank Jnr, Charlo Brothers, Mikey Garcia and more and put on about four shows before they cocked it up and lost it to Sky/BT.

ITV are totally useless. AEW should try and court Sky as theyve lost WWE to BT and they might be willing to take them as it would fill a gap and at the same time Id guess would be a lot cheaper than WWE. Sort of works for both parties.

Beer-Belly
December 15th, 2019, 11:51 PM
Went to Dynamite in Dallas (well, Garland) and had a blast. Moxley is massively over, and people went apeshit for Orange Cassidy. Just a fun experience all around. I gotta say, though, it's odd that Corpus fucking Christi is getting what looks like a better card on paper. I'm going to assume that they tried to book a venue in Houston and just weren't able to.

Nash Diesel
December 17th, 2019, 6:26 PM
I'm a little sad that my best friend who DVR's AEW for us to watch since I don't have cable accidentally deleted last week's show. Yeah yeah yeah illegal stream this, youtube the highlights that, do they still have a replay a few days later?

Rancid_Planet
December 17th, 2019, 11:02 PM
I'm a little sad that my best friend who DVR's AEW for us to watch since I don't have cable accidentally deleted last week's show. Yeah yeah yeah illegal stream this, youtube the highlights that, do they still have a replay a few days later?

Its also on the TNT app.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 8:55 PM
I'm a little sad that my best friend who DVR's AEW for us to watch since I don't have cable accidentally deleted last week's show. Yeah yeah yeah illegal stream this, youtube the highlights that, do they still have a replay a few days later?

Just Pirate Bay that shit, bro.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 9:01 PM
Its time, its time. Light the fuse and get ready for some AEW Wednesday Night....

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1154465197312106497/z8GD0Lw3_400x400.jpg

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Damn, big match to open the show.

With no entrances even. They're not fucking around.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 9:13 PM
Two guys are beating up one guy;

“It’s almost two-on-one!” - Tony Schiavone.

That’s the kind of incisive commentary I watch AEW for.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 9:18 PM
That “hot tag” was “Snoopy Snow Cone Machine” cold.

Brrr.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 9:20 PM
That was an awkward botch between Fenix and Omega.

Good finish. They’re really selling that Buckshot Lariat as a killer move.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 9:25 PM
I want to see PAC kick Michael Naka-Naka-Nakitdafuckoff’s ass in full screen.

Dumb cunt with the baby oil gimmick.

Tainted Eclipse
December 18th, 2019, 9:26 PM
jack jungle jack perry jungle boy

Ringo
December 18th, 2019, 9:28 PM
JR's got to go

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 9:28 PM
The Butcher, The Baker, and Allie - The hard dick maker.

Nice to see Cody Rhodes teaming up with the emo kid manning the register at his local Hot Topic.

Tainted Eclipse
December 18th, 2019, 9:29 PM
its crazy how much more of a star cody feels than omega and the bucks.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 9:30 PM
Cody’s the best fake platinum blonde in wrestling since “The Natural” Butch Reed.

Tainted Eclipse
December 18th, 2019, 9:30 PM
JR's got to go

yeah, commentary is one thing where they can have a major edge over WWE. they should be working hard to have an actively good commentary booth. schiavone is great but JR just doesn't have it anymore. not a big fan of excalibur either.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 9:31 PM
Darby Allin looks like the kind of goof who was probably way into The Butcher’s old band.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 9:34 PM
I don’t hate this version of JR. He actually seems like he’s having fun. And not in that bullshit, contrived, Vince-controlled “banter” kind of way, either.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 9:42 PM
Damn, they couldn’t keep Butcher and Blade unbeaten for a few weeks?

That’s terrible booking.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 9:45 PM
I’m not a big muscle head/workout guy by any means, but if you’re trying to hype an athlete in a promo package, maybe they should show him lifting those heavy weights over his head?

Hell, just gimmick them and have him lift even more.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 9:48 PM
https://media3.giphy.com/media/3orieKRjkyDUti23sY/200.webp?cid=790b761132d5032e8715ce209c863c74d68a8 0a73944a24f&rid=200.webp

Darby Allin, looking great working out.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 9:52 PM
Oh cool, Awesome Kong's booked toni--- and its over.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/I2M2mUFeAmOty/source.gif

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 9:54 PM
https://pics.me.me/thumb_life-finds-a-way-memegenerator-net-life-finds-a-way-50614875.png

Win or lose, this is going to be tons of fun.

This is sink or swim for 90210 Jr.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 10:02 PM
If you've ever wanted to see Gary Busey fight a dinosaur, AEW is here to provide for you.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 10:10 PM
Jericho just made that kid tonight.

Everybody sees Luchasauraus as the "can't miss" prospect from this trio, but Jungle Boy is a certified big damn deal right now.

I'd expect to see him get a real title shot pretty damn soon.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 10:21 PM
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Kris Statlander meeting AEW management for the first time.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 10:26 PM
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81UeMkGIDuL._SY550_.jpg

Kris Statlander will get over with this terrible alien gimmick.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 10:32 PM
That Kris Statlander standing sidekick sounded meaty. Not like your average "snap" sound. That was like a chunk of raw meat getting hit with a car.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 10:35 PM
Eventually, Brandi recruits Kris Statlander to the Nightmare Borellective with some of these...

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Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 10:41 PM
Brandi Rhodes has a barely-mobile Awesome Kong and a random mark who apparently decided to uproot herself from whatever her previous life was to follow her across the country and try to cut other women's hair off.

That's a "collective" in definition. Not exactly a "nightmare", considering how Awesome Kong has barely won and/or wrestled and the random mark isn't even being presented as an actual wrestler.

Tainted Eclipse
December 18th, 2019, 11:00 PM
blah

Beer-Belly
December 18th, 2019, 11:00 PM
Corpus Christi stinks. Pushing the Dark Order is... huh?

Tainted Eclipse
December 18th, 2019, 11:01 PM
this is how they end their last show of the year. these guys can have some bad booking instincts sometimes

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 11:02 PM
Damn, SCU/Bucks was great.

*Blinks*

Jesus Christ... what the Hell is this?

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Psycho666Soldier
December 18th, 2019, 11:04 PM
I really like The Dark Order angle they had been building over the last few weeks with the recruitment videos, invading the production of the shows, and teasing certain people joining up. I also think this was generally a good "redebut", but it came to soon. I think they should have let this build for another month before they brought The Dark Order back in the arena.

Otherwise, a really badass episode with a lot of intrigue throughout.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 18th, 2019, 11:04 PM
Ending AEW this week with a mass Dark Order attack, where two former job guys, two actual job guys, and a bunch of assholes not even good enough to get names where they beat down every over babyface in the company not named Adam Page, Darby Allin, John Moxley, or Joey Janella is like ending a five star steak dinner by having your waiter hit you in the face with a claw hammer and shit on your empty plate while you're unconscious.

Beer-Belly
December 18th, 2019, 11:06 PM
this is how they end their last show of the year. these guys can have some bad booking instincts sometimes

The roster needs more depth.

The Dark Order look like guys that Mox would dispatch in maybe a minute.

Bagel
December 18th, 2019, 11:34 PM
Saw the end of both NXT and AEW. If comparing the two, AEW felt like a wet fart. That said, I've liked the progress made with the Dark Order segments of late. I didn't know shit about them, having seen none of their pre-dynamite PPVs, so the segments helped. A couple weeks off gives them time to build on it.

BGMaverick
December 19th, 2019, 12:15 AM
It feels like a tricky, possibly no-win situation with the picture in picture route that AEW is taking. They obviously want to keep people tuned in but it almost looks like they're going aggressive with it by showing stuff you definitely want to see but then you're like, "I don't want to see it on a small screen."

Good booking with Jungle Boy and Statlander.

So many entities wanting others to join. It's all the rage.

The Dark Order is...there. Clearly weren't making any headway prior to this soft reboot. The production and storytelling in their vignettes as of late were nice but it just felt flat when they were out there again. The Elite is definitely not looking elite, either.

Sasori
December 19th, 2019, 2:14 AM
Strong show, but a few odd choices. Not sure why B&B couldn't lose by DQ instead of getting pinned clean by Cody. Feels way too soon for them be taking a loss. This Nightmare Collective needs to take shape soon or it just comes across as a vanity project for Brandi. Odd way to end the show as well. I agree that the Dark Order needed some more time to develop before re-debuting.

BGMaverick
December 19th, 2019, 12:28 PM
I like what Statlander is doing but the idea of a championship match feels overshadowed by the fact Brandi is trying to recruit Statlander. The booking for Statlander herself is good, but the booking for the program is muddy, at best. Baker feels like she's suffering from what Prichard likes to describe as "and then the bell rang" syndrome. She needs more time and a more work.

VHS
December 19th, 2019, 3:07 PM
Watched the beatdown at the end, and I can't fathom why they're still pushing Dark Order so hard. This is a comedy film.

https://i.imgur.com/wWByDIm.gif

Psycho666Soldier
December 19th, 2019, 3:09 PM
Watched the beatdown at the end, and I can't fathom why they're still pushing Dark Order so hard. This is a comedy film.

https://i.imgur.com/wWByDIm.gif

It's a cool idea with the wrong people. I assume they thought they could salvage it with some hype promos, which they probably could have. But I don't think centering the whole thing around the Super Smash Bros will do it much justice.

I'm holding out for a higher power being revealed that's much more compelling. Adam Page joining would be cool, but probably not as THE star.

Sasori
December 19th, 2019, 3:45 PM
I like what Statlander is doing but the idea of a championship match feels overshadowed by the fact Brandi is trying to recruit Statlander. The booking for Statlander herself is good, but the booking for the program is muddy, at best. Baker feels like she's suffering from what Prichard likes to describe as "and then the bell rang" syndrome. She needs more time and a more work.

I thought Statlander moved really slow in the ring last night. She was half a step slower than Baker which I thought hurt the match. Like you said, it's most likely is a case of her not being ready yet.


It's a cool idea with the wrong people. I assume they thought they could salvage it with some hype promos, which they probably could have. But I don't think centering the whole thing around the Super Smash Bros will do it much justice.

I'm holding out for a higher power being revealed that's much more compelling. Adam Page joining would be cool, but probably not as THE star.

There you go. They need someone with star power who comes across as an actual leader to make this group legit.

BGMaverick
December 19th, 2019, 4:13 PM
I thought Statlander moved really slow in the ring last night. She was half a step slower than Baker which I thought hurt the match. Like you said, it's most likely is a case of her not being ready yet.


I can definitely see that. I think they both need time to develop but I think Statlander is going to get over with the audience much quicker. Baker doesn't come across like a face, either.

There's a sense of self-inflicting wounds with Dark Order. It's being advertised to quote-unquote losers. So if it's a group of losers or nobodies, they're just leveling up as a gang? That doesn't make them that interesting and it doesn't make the people they're beating up that good either. The idea of a higher power is interesting but I imagine it's more of the same until that is revealed. If that's the case, it may be too late and not salvageable.

I will say, I doubt anyone would have said the closing segment of Dynamite for 2019 when it started was going to say Dark Order.

Matthew
December 19th, 2019, 4:24 PM
show was pretty strong until the end. sad, because the soft reboot of dark order was pretty sweet until this.

women's title match obviously going to include some interference from the nightmare collective. (WHO IS THE BALD GUY?)

sad to see kong out there, she has seemed like a shell of herself since her time in the wwe.

jr was pretty damn awful this week. which is saying something.

hopefully chris daniels goes to 'find himself' and stops his waddling to the ring.

everything was more entertaining than the wednesday night cringefest by spudz here, though

Donald
December 19th, 2019, 5:11 PM
sad to see kong out there, she has seemed like a shell of herself since her time in the wwe.



Has she done much since her WWE days? I think she may have returned to TNA at some point, and was on GLOW.

BGMaverick
December 19th, 2019, 5:32 PM
Week one: 1,409,000 viewers
Week two: 1,018,000 viewers (plus 122,000 on TruTV)
Week three: 1,014,000 viewers
Week four: 963,000 viewers
Week five: 759,000 viewers
Week six: 822,000 viewers
Week seven: 957,000 viewers
Week eight: 893,000 (first week to lose to NXT)
Week nine: 663,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 10: 851,000 viewers
Week 11: 778,000 viewers (tie)
Week 12: 683,000 viewers

Peter Griffin
December 19th, 2019, 6:44 PM
Guess who hasn't tweeted again Murphy lolz

Murphy
December 19th, 2019, 8:53 PM
Jesus Pete, I checked the Sky ITV Hub earlier and the cunting show isn’t up from last week.

I’ve been watching the Austin Broken Skull session with GOLDBERG. Really enjoyed it.

Peter Griffin
December 19th, 2019, 9:17 PM
Plan to watch that tomorrow.

Donald
December 20th, 2019, 1:03 PM
Might be easier for you guys to come live with me, you can watch AEW live on TNT every Wednesday, no delays, no hassle. Just ask that you give me $100 a month in boarding fees.

Now, I won't be watching with you cause I'll be in another room watching NXT.

Nash Diesel
December 20th, 2019, 4:26 PM
Might be easier for you guys to come live with me, you can watch AEW live on TNT every Wednesday, no delays, no hassle. Just ask that you give me $100 a month in boarding fees.

Now, I won't be watching with you cause I'll be in another room watching NXT.

I fucking love you lol

Sinner
December 21st, 2019, 5:21 PM
we should be seeing Japan style matches between Kenny Omega and Pentagon.

we should be seeing good, thought out tag team wrestling, and it should be the Young Bucks as the champions, beating everyone.

we should be seeing Hangman Adam Page being a world beater, on the streak of his life, but Title Shots have eluded him because (to borrow a sports analogy) he has PAC and Moxley "in his division"

But instead we have The Dork Order (thanks Cornette), the fucking Alien, Two Librarians, Brandi drinking too much red wine and forgetting this is on TV, Big Swole being anywhere near the ring, and Joey Janela.

It's disappointing!


There are some good things. I like Shawn Spears w/ Tully Blanchard and think it's a good heel act. I like Jungle Boy and Luchasaurus. The Inner Circle is great. Cody is usually the best part of the show and pre-AEW I just didn't "get" Cody.

Schiavone and JR are fantastic at being entertaining. Awesome Kong should either be the champion or be feuding with the champion. Kong vs Nyla needs to happen before they ruin Kong's presence.

Fenix needs more love. Can't wait for the inevitable match vs. PAC...

Lot's of potential, they need to be more sports based. Think early TNA on FSN1. With the names and the time remaining on the screen. Information ticker across the bottom.

They need to be different.

VHS
December 21st, 2019, 9:09 PM
we should be seeing Japan style matches between Kenny Omega and Pentagon.

Yeah, but that style would wear off, quickly. Especially here in the US.


we should be seeing good, thought out tag team wrestling, and it should be the Young Bucks as the champions, beating everyone.

The Bucks are not a top draw in the US. They think they are, but they're not.


we should be seeing Hangman Adam Page being a world beater, on the streak of his life, but Title Shots have eluded him because (to borrow a sports analogy) he has PAC and Moxley "in his division"

He's not ready.


But instead we have The Dork Order (thanks Cornette), the fucking Alien, Two Librarians, Brandi drinking too much red wine and forgetting this is on TV, Big Swole being anywhere near the ring, and Joey Janela.

What's wrong w/ Big Swole? :huh:


There are some good things. I like Shawn Spears w/ Tully Blanchard and think it's a good heel act. I like Jungle Boy and Luchasaurus. The Inner Circle is great. Cody is usually the best part of the show and pre-AEW I just didn't "get" Cody.

Spears has been beyond boring as a jobber to the stars.

Jungle Boy is going to be a star and so is Luchasaurus, hopefully Stunt gets the boot soon.

Cody's involved in most of the best parts because he knows he shouldn't take part in the goofy video game stuff, the cult schlock, or anything w/ the Bucks. His wife though... she's the luckiest block of wood on the goddamn planet.

Schiavone and JR are fantastic at being entertaining. Awesome Kong should either be the champion or be feuding with the champion. Kong vs Nyla needs to happen before they ruin Kong's presence.

Fenix needs more love. Can't wait for the inevitable match vs. PAC...

Lot's of potential, they need to be more sports based. Think early TNA on FSN1. With the names and the time remaining on the screen. Information ticker across the bottom.

They need to be different.[/QUOTE]

Vandal
December 22nd, 2019, 3:50 AM
https://youtu.be/uhWO3yByKuU
LOL this is great. Dork Order...:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Sasori
December 23rd, 2019, 2:47 PM
Cornette makes a good point about the staging of the Dark Order's run in. I knew it looked weird at the time, but couldn't put my finger on it. Jim's right about how you need to send in a few guys so the Faces can destroy them before they get overwhelmed. That's exactly how you'd see it done in WWE. A recent example is during this year's pre-Survivor Series invasion of RAW. Orton was in the ring when team Smackdown came calling. He hit two RKO's before the numbers game became too much. Visually, it comes across so much better than what AEW did.

Donald
December 23rd, 2019, 4:33 PM
Haven't seen it, but from what I've heard, Dark Order seems like a mid-card act being forced as a main event act?

Spudz Mackenzie
December 23rd, 2019, 7:34 PM
Haven't seen it, but from what I've heard, Dark Order seems like a mid-card act being forced as a main event act?

They’re Raven’s Flock, full of lower card mooks, jobbers, and schlubs, who are being forced to pretend to be 2010-era “good” Nexus. And it doesn’t work.

Sinner
December 23rd, 2019, 10:58 PM
Young Bucks deleted their Twitter.

What a bunch of idiots. What's wrong, your ideas are fucking terrible and you don't like to hear about it?

Haha..perfect way to end the year

Morrison
December 24th, 2019, 12:30 AM
Young Bucks deleted their Twitter.

What a bunch of idiots. What's wrong, your ideas are fucking terrible and you don't like to hear about it?

Haha..perfect way to end the year

if you were inundated with hyperbolic shit tweets all hours of the day, kinda like this post, you'd probably give it up too. they've clearly done a lot of listening to the crowds and the criticisms, but twitter is a toxic shithole, in general, and when you add in the wrestling fan psychosis on top of that, it's completely understandable why a person just wouldnt want to subject themselves to it anymore. the bucks have been getting shit from people for years and have taken it in stride; i dont think they suddenly developed such thin skin like you're trying to make out here.

Murphy
December 24th, 2019, 5:30 AM
Yeah, fuck twitter, horrible stuff.

Not been enjoying Dynamite as much lately and on the flip side, NXT has been super. But it's still early days, I want them to succeed and there's still some good stuff going on. Namely, MJF, Cody, I'm intrigued by where they're going with Adam Page, Jericho, the tag division shows promise etc etc.

We're literally 3 months in. I have high hopes still for 2020.

Badger
December 24th, 2019, 6:37 AM
Really liked Bucks/SCU and Jericho/Jungle Boy. Fuck the Dark Order shit.

Murphy
December 24th, 2019, 7:13 AM
Too much playing up to the crowd from Lucha Bros. It's like RVD all over again with his bloody thumbs. Seemingly after every move. Gets on my tits.

Ringo
December 24th, 2019, 7:24 AM
Yeah I agree with that. It's a cool taunt that gets a great reaction but he does it constantly.

Tainted Eclipse
December 24th, 2019, 10:11 AM
pentagon just isn't really all that good and relies very heavily on schtick.

Psycho666Soldier
December 24th, 2019, 10:23 AM
pentagon just isn't really all that good and relies very heavily on schtick.

I don't really agree with this. I think Pentagon is really good in the ring. The schtick can get in the way sometimes (I agree the taunt thing is a bit much at times), but the dude can go. Plus, he's over as hell, so it doesn't really matter.

Tainted Eclipse
December 24th, 2019, 10:30 AM
i don't think it's a bad thing that he relies heavily on his charisma, gimmick and schtick to get his matches over.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 26th, 2019, 6:08 AM
Hand gestures are a universal signal of intent. Pentagon doesn’t speak a ton of English, so throwing out the “Cero Miedo” sign is a great way to communicate.

Nash Diesel
December 26th, 2019, 11:24 AM
if you were inundated with hyperbolic shit tweets all hours of the day, kinda like this post, you'd probably give it up too. they've clearly done a lot of listening to the crowds and the criticisms, but twitter is a toxic shithole, in general, and when you add in the wrestling fan psychosis on top of that, it's completely understandable why a person just wouldnt want to subject themselves to it anymore. the bucks have been getting shit from people for years and have taken it in stride; i dont think they suddenly developed such thin skin like you're trying to make out here.

It's comical though that a duo who essentially built their brand by being exactly everything you're stating they deal with, can't handle it. What the fuck did they expect? They're on a bigger stage, not everyone is going to suck their little dicks for eternity. They spend all these years shitting on WWE talent and shows, now they're tasting it and they cry. With their fucking dad going to bat for them lol.

Donald
December 26th, 2019, 11:39 AM
Is their dad "Old Buck"?

Nash Diesel
December 26th, 2019, 11:43 AM
Is their dad "Old Buck"?

haha, worse, PAPA Buck. Like he's part of Wu Tang.

Seriously....2 grown ass men needing their dad to go "My 30+ year old sons can dish it but can't take it!" Young Bucks are a very entertaining team, and to be honest I don't give a shit if they're on twitter or not but the reasoning is just corny.

Donald
December 26th, 2019, 11:44 AM
I used Twitter all of a month, and that was like 10 years ago. Just seems like a platform that's easy to spread hate.

Nash Diesel
December 26th, 2019, 12:17 PM
I used Twitter all of a month, and that was like 10 years ago. Just seems like a platform that's easy to spread hate.

I use it sparingly. But it's addicting, all social media is. That's why some people need to announce they're sobriety from twitter I guess lol.

Tainted Eclipse
December 26th, 2019, 12:21 PM
haha, worse, PAPA Buck. Like he's part of Wu Tang.

lmao

Nash Diesel
December 26th, 2019, 12:58 PM
Imagine if this were Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns, some high up WWE talent that had their Dad pop in and go "My son just can't handle the backlash" oh fuck the Cuck Bucks would have a fucking field day with this. They'd probably make another shirt out of it.

The problem with these 2 is that they probably didn't think those inside their bubble thought anything they were part of could ever do wrong. So when the fans don't jerk them off over everything after they've been getting jerked off for X amount of years for doing worse shit, they call it a day lol.

Wrestlers in general who want to be on social media need to "not sell" the bullshit. That's the problem when Twitter is somehow this purgatory for kayfabe. Some wrestlers don't know when another is working them, the fans don't know half the time if a tweet is in character or not. Fucking weird.

BGMaverick
December 27th, 2019, 2:07 PM
AEW has now stated that Kris Statlander will not be able to compete on January 1 due to prior commitments. Riho will defend her title against Nyla Rose, Britt Baker, and Hikaru Shida in a four-way. Stantlander will face the winner the following week.

It doesn't seem like any of the news in relation to AEW has been "good" as of late. Bucks getting off Twitter, bad punches, bad go-home segment, and this.

Donald
December 27th, 2019, 2:24 PM
It doesn't seem like any of the news in relation to AEW has been "good" as of late. Bucks getting off Twitter, bad punches, bad go-home segment, and this.

Nothing worse than reading Taz will be making an appearance on Jan. 1

Psycho666Soldier
December 27th, 2019, 3:26 PM
AEW has now stated that Kris Statlander will not be able to compete on January 1 due to prior commitments. Riho will defend her title against Nyla Rose, Britt Baker, and Hikaru Shida in a four-way. Stantlander will face the winner the following week.

It doesn't seem like any of the news in relation to AEW has been "good" as of late. Bucks getting off Twitter, bad punches, bad go-home segment, and this.

Bad punches? I think I missed that. Though that explains the opening segment on BTE this week.

BGMaverick
December 27th, 2019, 4:34 PM
Bad punches? I think I missed that. Though that explains the opening segment on BTE this week.

You replied to a GIF of it from VHS, so I'm not sure how you missed it, haha.

Sasori
December 27th, 2019, 5:37 PM
AEW has now stated that Kris Statlander will not be able to compete on January 1 due to prior commitments. Riho will defend her title against Nyla Rose, Britt Baker, and Hikaru Shida in a four-way. Stantlander will face the winner the following week.

It doesn't seem like any of the news in relation to AEW has been "good" as of late. Bucks getting off Twitter, bad punches, bad go-home segment, and this.

Cody announced on Christmas Day that there would be an upcoming show in New Jersey. Seems like the only thing that's gotten fans excited lately.

Psycho666Soldier
December 27th, 2019, 5:43 PM
You replied to a GIF of it from VHS, so I'm not sure how you missed it, haha.

Oh, that's weird. I don't think my phone loaded the gif originally, because I don't remember seeing that at all lol.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 27th, 2019, 8:30 PM
AEW has now stated that Kris Statlander will not be able to compete on January 1 due to prior commitments. Riho will defend her title against Nyla Rose, Britt Baker, and Hikaru Shida in a four-way. Stantlander will face the winner the following week.

https://frinkiac.com/meme/S08E14/1221369.jpg?b64lines=IEtyaXMgU3RhdGxhbmRlcjogSSBIQ VZFCiBUTyBHTyBOT1cuIE1ZIFBMQU5FVAogTkVFRFMgTUUu

Sinner
December 28th, 2019, 9:14 PM
Ring of Honor needs a good tag team..who's out there?

I would have liked Butcher & Blade to go there instead of AEW.

Haskins & Williams is not really good enough.

Bring in Swann & Mack? Or The Rascalz?

Spudz Mackenzie
December 29th, 2019, 2:37 PM
Ring of Honor needs a good tag team..who's out there?

I would have liked Butcher & Blade to go there instead of AEW.

Haskins & Williams is not really good enough.

Bring in Swann & Mack? Or The Rascalz?

Fly Def from Booker T’s Reality Of Wrestling promotion would be a great midcard tag-team for Ring Of Honor. They’re a couple of very charismatic, super talented, young black guys who have a ton of upside and a long career ahead of them.

Spudz Mackenzie
December 29th, 2019, 2:38 PM
Also... this is the AEW thread.

So, why are we talking about Ring Of Honor?

Sinner
December 29th, 2019, 3:55 PM
No idea!

Glitch

Rancid_Planet
December 29th, 2019, 8:15 PM
Also... this is the AEW thread.

So, why are we talking about Ring Of Honor?

We need an entirely seperate Ring of Honor forum. Clearly.

Donald
December 30th, 2019, 11:44 AM
Saw AEW is hiring Arn Anderson as a coach, that's good. Just not sure about putting him in an on screen role as Cody's advisor.

Nash Diesel
December 30th, 2019, 2:51 PM
AEW has now stated that Kris Statlander will not be able to compete on January 1 due to prior commitments. Riho will defend her title against Nyla Rose, Britt Baker, and Hikaru Shida in a four-way. Stantlander will face the winner the following week.

It doesn't seem like any of the news in relation to AEW has been "good" as of late. Bucks getting off Twitter, bad punches, bad go-home segment, and this.

TNA shit. How many times, probably even still happening today, did we hear "So and so won't be at this ppv due to a prior commitment for a company 200 times smaller than our own!" Probably a million.

This is why AEW needs to start really thinking about who they want associated EXCLUSIVELY with AEW to avoid anything like this from happening again. TNA fucked up their 2nd half of 2010 by not paying attention to how many dates RVD was contracted to appear, and he was their World champion.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 1st, 2020, 9:04 PM
Who's ready for some AEW... https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1154465197312106497/z8GD0Lw3_400x400.jpg

Spudz Mackenzie
January 1st, 2020, 9:05 PM
Darby/Cody should be damn good. As much as I make fun of Darby for being an emo cunt, the kid's got hella upside.

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ARN F'N ANDERSON!!!

Defrost
January 1st, 2020, 9:12 PM
I really like the building they're in

Tainted Eclipse
January 1st, 2020, 9:13 PM
good look for tonights show. they're pushing it as a big deal and the unique arena makes it feel more special.

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this match is really, really good so far.

Defrost
January 1st, 2020, 9:16 PM
Darby Allin has the most star potential of anyone they've brought into this promotion

Spudz Mackenzie
January 1st, 2020, 9:18 PM
One of these days, that weightlifter's belt is going to crack somebody in the dome and AEW and Tony Khan's pocketbook is going to be about six-seven figures lighter.

Tainted Eclipse
January 1st, 2020, 9:19 PM
i think i agree. they should strap the rocket on him sooner than later.

Defrost
January 1st, 2020, 9:20 PM
i think i agree. they should strap the rocket on him sooner than later.

He's the reason they need a midcard belt. Having him be like AEW TV Champion for 18 months would be great.

Tainted Eclipse
January 1st, 2020, 9:21 PM
fuck that headbutts into the top rope code red should NOT have been a spot during the commercials.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 1st, 2020, 9:23 PM
That Coffin Drop to the outside against Cody has fucked Darby more than once now.

That's good continuity.

Defrost
January 1st, 2020, 9:24 PM
Well that's the best match I've seen this year

Tainted Eclipse
January 1st, 2020, 9:25 PM
maybe the best dynamite match yet. working match of the decade!

Spudz Mackenzie
January 1st, 2020, 9:25 PM
Announcer Barbie looks like she's ready to pop out of that dress.

Damn...

Tainted Eclipse
January 1st, 2020, 9:26 PM
it's nuts how much more of a star cody is than any of the other elite.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 1st, 2020, 9:27 PM
Sammy Guevara showing up is like Rob Schneider showing up to interrupt a scene between actual funny people in a comedy movie.

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it's nuts how much more of a star cody is than any of the other elite.

Booking yourself so that as little of the stink of the bad shit in the company gets on you as possible will do that.

Tainted Eclipse
January 1st, 2020, 9:28 PM
they're all booking themselves, cody's the only one who knows what he's doing

Spudz Mackenzie
January 1st, 2020, 9:28 PM
Nyla Rose looks like she ate 20 Rihos for breakfast this morning.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 1st, 2020, 9:31 PM
To be fair, did anyone else want to see E.T. bitch vs. Tiny school girl?

That sounds like one of those anime VHS tapes you'd rent from your local video store that you'd have to get from behind the beaded curtains.

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Dr. Britt Baker is the best wrestling dentist since Issac Yankem.

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Riho makes Alexa Bliss look like Andre The Giant.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 1st, 2020, 9:43 PM
Won't lie, I still don't think Riho could beat any of those women if you gave her a machine gun and 10 guys to help her, but in a multi-woman match, I can buy her winning. Create enough action and violence around her, and Riho is small enough and quick enough that I can buy her sneaking one over on somebody before they realize it. But there's only so long they can book her like that until somebody needs to catch her and plant her in the ground like a lawn dart.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 1st, 2020, 9:45 PM
Somebody has taste. At least they didn't let Cunty Nutella pollute the air with his shitty promos.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 1st, 2020, 9:49 PM
This Dark Order gimmick is like live streaming somebody on hospice care.

Its just dying a slow, grizzly, grim death in front of an uncaring public.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 1st, 2020, 10:02 PM
Moxley is one of those guys who should stay the Hell away from social media. I can't buy him as a psycho-killer after seeing him and Renee Young on Instagram eating Christmas dinner together and exchanging thoughtful gifts.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 1st, 2020, 10:12 PM
Victoria Justice's sister?

What a wonderfully random shout-out.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 1st, 2020, 10:24 PM
That's more of Sammy Guevara's ass than I ever needed or wanted to see.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 1st, 2020, 10:27 PM
Yay! Announcer Barbie with Tit-Popping Action, is back on TV.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 1st, 2020, 10:41 PM
Did Marko Stunt just try to grope announcer Barbie?

Spudz Mackenzie
January 1st, 2020, 10:47 PM
Hey guys, did you know Britt Baker is a dentist?

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Spudz Mackenzie
January 1st, 2020, 11:03 PM
Fun six-man tag. Nothing we've never seen before, but everybody got their shit in and it was well done for what it was.

Seems like they're starting to build Kenny Omega back up into something important.

BGMaverick
January 2nd, 2020, 12:24 AM
The Daily's Place setup is good. Like Fight for the Fallen, it helped create a different atmosphere than we're used to seeing. Taz was nice on commentary.

Wasn't this episode hyped as the time where Moxley was supposed to make his decision? If so, kind of lame they didn't pay that off.

Pretty entertaining women's match. I think the four-way aspect of it allowed a more all gas, no breaks approach and that definitely helped the cause.

Nash Diesel
January 2nd, 2020, 3:54 PM
Darby Allin has the most star potential of anyone they've brought into this promotion

Darby Allin is that you?

Are we talking in general or just in terms of people nobody even the die hards that watch AEW knew about prior? I'll be honest, I can see a tiny bit of Jeff Hardy appeal that he could have but outside of that it's a little early for me to agree.

Definitely on the bandwagon of MJF. He might need work on his in-ring ability but outside of that the kid has superstar potential, even outside of AEW.

Grayson Kills
January 2nd, 2020, 5:44 PM
My take on AEW so far. It’s good to see Shawn Spears has gone from a jobber on WWE to a jobber with a manager that gets to work less dates in AEW. I was originally not feeling Darby Allin but he has grown on me. And MJF is crushing it. Mox is pretty much the same character as he was in WWE but he gets to work less days and enjoy life so that’s always a plus. Cody and Jericho are easily the stars of the company. The Bucks are still the Bucks. Best Friends / Orange are always entertaining. Lucha Bros are always great in the ring. Only two things I can’t really get behind is the dark order and the woman’s division. Some good talent and then some that is just cringe worthy.

Defrost
January 2nd, 2020, 6:05 PM
Darby Allin is that you?

Are we talking in general or just in terms of people nobody even the die hards that watch AEW knew about prior? I'll be honest, I can see a tiny bit of Jeff Hardy appeal that he could have but outside of that it's a little early for me to agree.

Definitely on the bandwagon of MJF. He might need work on his in-ring ability but outside of that the kid has superstar potential, even outside of AEW.

MJF is good at what he does, but it's the only thing that he does.

And yes I do mean of the people who had zero public awareness coming in.

Nash Diesel
January 2nd, 2020, 6:12 PM
It's not every day that not only do we get a new big promotion, but one that is so accessible on television. I mean, even NWA-TNA started out as a weekly ppv deal.

With AEW I think that aspect gets lost in the mix. Even going back to the rules....People were like "Why isn't this a DQ?" Well, that's because you're basing your rule setting on WWE's product. Imagine the wigs that were blown to bits when they watched ECW lol.

But the company has a solid core of talent that will lure people in and the more and more they keep at it the better it'll be in terms of the show. What AEW has to be careful about is having no identity. What sets them apart from WWE other than having a different cast of characters? See, with ECW they provided the more mature promos and storylines (Raven stealing Sandman's family, the bisexual love triangle that lost them 90% of their tv deals AND an upcoming ppv spot lol, etc.) plus the matches were not structured the same.

WCW, they had some very familiar faces, but they also had Cruiserweights and more of a reality-based product aside from a handful of characters, mostly found in the Dungeon of Doom.

AEW......They're definitely getting their own identity. Their vignettes look different, the atmosphere of Dynamite in terms of enthusiasm whereas you watch Raw and Smackdown and you wonder why most of the crowd even showed up lol. So once they get their own identity and establish their roster as "This is AEW" as opposed to "Well, it's AEW but then we have to give back 20 wrestlers to 4 different promotions". Like the girl who was supposed to challenge for the title but had prior commitments with another promotion. You can't book like that, imagine if Vince had to pull Charlotte because she was scheduled to appear at a Progress show...it wouldn't happen.

Nash Diesel
January 2nd, 2020, 6:14 PM
MJF is good at what he does, but it's the only thing that he does.

And yes I do mean of the people who had zero public awareness coming in.

What he does well I think makes up for what he's lacking which in reality isn't much. His wrestling ability is good enough to get him far. Darby, again I have that Jeff Hardy vibe when I see him so I totally get the potential, but I think his style is limiting both in the ring and his look.

I'll say this, 1 of them is going to be a top player in the next 5 years if not sooner. I don't just mean AEW, I mean anywhere they go.

Matthew
January 3rd, 2020, 10:57 AM
a midcard title is needed so badly. but i understand why they are waiting to introduce it.

Tainted Eclipse
January 3rd, 2020, 12:20 PM
i like the idea of a TV title defended every single week with a 10 minute time limit. i don't like the idea of just randomly another title that is "secondary" for no reason other than its name and how it's booked.

BGMaverick
January 3rd, 2020, 12:36 PM
Week one: 1,409,000 viewers
Week two: 1,018,000 viewers (plus 122,000 on TruTV)
Week three: 1,014,000 viewers
Week four: 963,000 viewers
Week five: 759,000 viewers
Week six: 822,000 viewers
Week seven: 957,000 viewers
Week eight: 893,000 (first week to lose to NXT)
Week nine: 663,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 10: 851,000 viewers
Week 11: 778,000 viewers (tie)
Week 12: 683,000 viewers
Week 13 (after being off the week prior): 967,000 viewers

Spudz Mackenzie
January 3rd, 2020, 1:20 PM
Week one: 1,409,000 viewers
Week two: 1,018,000 viewers (plus 122,000 on TruTV)
Week three: 1,014,000 viewers
Week four: 963,000 viewers
Week five: 759,000 viewers
Week six: 822,000 viewers
Week seven: 957,000 viewers
Week eight: 893,000 (first week to lose to NXT)
Week nine: 663,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Week 10: 851,000 viewers
Week 11: 778,000 viewers (tie)
Week 12: 683,000 viewers
Week 13 (after being off the week prior): 967,000 viewers

You should also probably note the show last night was only against an NXT recap/awards show - With no new, first run content.

BGMaverick
January 3rd, 2020, 1:27 PM
I did, in the NXT thread.

Nash Diesel
January 3rd, 2020, 5:04 PM
Yeah it definitely shows, IMHO, there is more crossover than we care to admit at times. It was also a heavily stacked show. You had a great 6-man match full of wonderful talent, you had Moxley and Jericho advertised to be on the show. NXT didn't have much to offer and when you can watch it on the Network, a show like that isn't "must see" especially when we're pretty fucking smartened up to the fact Undisputed Era is the Roman Reigns of NXT. Right?

VHS
January 3rd, 2020, 8:16 PM
Yeah it definitely shows, IMHO, there is more crossover than we care to admit at times. It was also a heavily stacked show. You had a great 6-man match full of wonderful talent, you had Moxley and Jericho advertised to be on the show. NXT didn't have much to offer and when you can watch it on the Network, a show like that isn't "must see" especially when we're pretty fucking smartened up to the fact Undisputed Era is the Roman Reigns of NXT. Right?

The Undisputed Era is the Undisputed Era of NXT.

Nash Diesel
January 3rd, 2020, 9:05 PM
The Undisputed Era is the Undisputed Era of NXT.

Bay Bay

Peter Griffin
January 3rd, 2020, 9:27 PM
Cody vs Allin was fun, Roberts announcing Mox is more annoying than when he used to announce Cena :blah:

Donald
January 3rd, 2020, 10:32 PM
Justin Roberts is annoying.

BGMaverick
January 4th, 2020, 4:44 PM
Justin Roberts is annoying.

He most definitely will get his shit in.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 5th, 2020, 3:45 AM
Fun to see (hear?) Colt Cabana show up on AEW Dark.

I wonder if there's any chance Cabana might get a more regular role with AEW?

Spudz Mackenzie
January 8th, 2020, 7:13 PM
Tonight on AEW....

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- A tribute to the Legends of Memphis Wrestling.

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- Cody and Dustin Rhodes vs. The Lucha Bros

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- Riho vs. Kris Statlander - For The AEW Women's Title

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- Cody Rhodes Responds To MJF's Proposal For AEW Revolution

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- Will Jon Moxley Join Chris Jericho's Inner Circle?

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- Hangman Page and Kenny Omega vs. Private Party

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- Sammy Guevara vs. Christopher Daniels

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- The Best Friends and Orange Cassidy vs. The Jurassic Express

Spudz Mackenzie
January 8th, 2020, 9:03 PM
Damn, I was hoping Hangman's new gimmick would be "drunken cowboy" and he'd come down to wrestle tonight with another cocktail.

Kenny 'O Jazz Hands and Hangman are "combastible". Wanna try that again, Jimbo?

Tainted Eclipse
January 8th, 2020, 9:03 PM
AEW taking cues from wwe with the 4 man booth

Spudz Mackenzie
January 8th, 2020, 9:06 PM
That Private Party dude in the leopard print tights looks so much like a Tekken character, its hilarious.

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When Dave Brown was still doing commentary, guys the color of Private Party had to sit in their own section.

Tainted Eclipse
January 8th, 2020, 9:13 PM
i want a taz/schiavone booth

Ringo
January 8th, 2020, 9:19 PM
Is Dave Brown doing commentary on Dynamite as well?

Spudz Mackenzie
January 8th, 2020, 9:20 PM
Jim Ross/Tony Schiavone/Colt Cabana for me.

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Is Dave Brown doing commentary on Dynamite as well?

With The Masked Jackass.

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You can keep trying, but I won't care about Michael Knockitdafuckoff.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 8th, 2020, 9:25 PM
They should just keep adding people to the announce booth all night. It was nice hearing from Denny Brown, sounding vaguely confused and/or bemused at "these youngsters", but he never should have left. Just add Brandi Rhodes to the desk and make it a five-person desk.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 8th, 2020, 9:28 PM
Brandi Rhodes completely obliterating kayfabe, by not pretending that Kris Statlander is actually an alien.

Also, love Brandi absolutely fucking channeling Jim Cornette's smoldering rage at Excalibur and calling him out for the stupid mask.

Tainted Eclipse
January 8th, 2020, 9:35 PM
not at all a fan of this brandi thing.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 8th, 2020, 9:35 PM
This "Nightmare Collective" just keeps getting worse and worse and worse.

Yes, three "worse's".

Spudz Mackenzie
January 8th, 2020, 9:39 PM
So many bald people in this little collective of idiots.

It seems sort of familiar....

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Sonny Kiss needs to fuck off back to whatever gay pride parade he came from and leave this terrible angle to the (slightly less) terrible people.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 8th, 2020, 9:47 PM
That last segment featured:

- A Japanese school girl who doesn't look like she could take a sleeping newborn in a fight.
- A person with clear mental issues who believes that she's a real life "alien".
- Brandi Rhodes, who won't take anyone's shit, obliterates kayfabe faster than following a wrestler on Instagram, playing the worst cult leader since James Storm in TNA.
- Awesome Kong - Who has all the mobility of two tectonic plates trying to slide passed each other.
- Some bald chick, who I'm not even sure is a wrestler.
- Luthor - Some fat fuck who looks like an escaped mental patient.
- Hakara Shida - 'Nuff said.
- Big Swole - The "Big Suck" - Because she's fucking terrible.
- Sonny Kiss - The man who sets the perception of gay people in media back by 100 years every time he shakes his ass on TV.

Did I miss anybody?

Because fuck me, that's 50 pounds of WrestleCrap forced into a 10 pound sack.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 8th, 2020, 9:52 PM
Is anyone else surprised that Pentagon Jr can speak English?

Spudz Mackenzie
January 8th, 2020, 9:59 PM
Christopher Daniels, keep resisting The Dork Order.

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Peter Griffin
January 8th, 2020, 10:05 PM
You have single handedly fucking ruined this thread you boring bigoted cunt.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 8th, 2020, 10:08 PM
You have single handedly fucking ruined this thread you boring bigoted cunt.

Bigoted? How am I bigoted?

This is usually when that ulcerous cunt Morrison pops in to tell me why I'm history's greatest monster or something.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 8th, 2020, 10:17 PM
A tribute to Memphis Wrestling without Jerry Lawler feels somewhat empty, doesn't it?

Spudz Mackenzie
January 8th, 2020, 10:26 PM
The Butcher, The Baker, And Allie - The Boner Maker.

Morrison
January 8th, 2020, 10:31 PM
Bigoted? How am I bigoted?

This is usually when that ulcerous cunt Morrison pops in to tell me why I'm history's greatest monster or something.

ive stopped looking in this thread on Wednesday nights cause of the lame horseshit you post.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 8th, 2020, 10:34 PM
ive stopped looking in this thread on Wednesday nights cause of the lame horseshit you post.

Good. That's one less thread I have to deal with your annoying ass in. :yes:

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I wonder if Trent? feels bad about beating up a Make-A-Wish kid tonight?

Spudz Mackenzie
January 8th, 2020, 10:36 PM
ive stopped looking in this thread on Wednesday nights cause of the lame horseshit you post.

Why not just put me on ignore, dude? Or are you trying to find some reason to report me to try to get me banned or some silly shit like that?

Morrison
January 8th, 2020, 10:39 PM
Good. That's one less thread I have to deal with your annoying ass in. :yes:

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I wonder if Trent? feels bad about beating up a Make-A-Wish kid tonight?

considering the shit you almost constantly post, i doubt one thread is going to make a dent in me talking shit on you.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 8th, 2020, 10:47 PM
considering the shit you almost constantly post, i doubt one thread is going to make a dent in me talking shit on you.

Its hilarious, bro. I post on the boards because I enjoy it and I've always liked wrestling. And I enjoy poking gentle fun at wrestling when its silly and dumb.

It just amuses me to literally no end that you seem to have this burning dislike of me for just trying to goof on some stuff and have a good time.

Yeah, I've said some wrongheaded things before, but I've apologized for it. If you read something here that offends you, then by all means, I apologize. If you don't like my attempts at being humorous, or using Frinkiac to fuck around, then get over it. Humor is subjective.

If you want to shit on me, feel free. But nothing I do is done to piss you off.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 8th, 2020, 10:54 PM
Mox turns on Jericho and his cronies. Jericho is going through that table before the show's over.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 8th, 2020, 10:59 PM
Called it...

Peter Griffin
January 8th, 2020, 11:31 PM
How are you bigoted apart from racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia that you frequently post?

BGMaverick
January 9th, 2020, 12:40 AM
Hangman and Kenny have really good combo moves. That was the takeaway I had from that first match. Pretty humorous to see Page drinking with fans as he walked through the crowd during the commercial.

Not surprised that the women's title match was a shit show. Why? Because they already tipped off the fact that the match wasn't worth a damn. After Statlander won the opportunity a few weeks back, Brandi came out and overshadowed the fact that a title match was set altogether. With that being the case, it makes sense (in a very stupid way) that they decided to continue that trend with the match itself being dumb and hallow.

Hilarious that MJF ended up tweeting crap about DDP in the ring during the promo. That's 2020 as hell. Probably not promising for the prospects of Butcher and Blade if DDP could take them out in relatively easy fashion lol.

SWERVE, BRO to finish the show but it worked out well and made Moxley look smart.

Spudz Mackenzie
January 9th, 2020, 1:47 AM
How are you bigoted apart from racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia that you frequently post?

Well.... if that's what you mean then yeah, I get it.

Sinner
January 9th, 2020, 1:09 PM
That was a really bad episode.

Daniels looked idiotic, Hangman looked like a loser, Dark Order looked like high schoolers playing a role in a class play, The Womens Title match was embarrassing, Brandi buried her own show and character, Private Party does not know how to get sympathy (gimmick is a heel gimmick), DDP's promo was boring, DDP punked out Butcher and Blade, I don't want to hear about every wrestler's Insta and Twitter, The Moxley turn was obvious and flat, the Crowd sucked, Jurassic Express vs Best Friends was mediocre - I feel Jurassic Park is missing the boat.

What a mess!

Matthew
January 9th, 2020, 2:08 PM
high points:

i'm enjoying hangman more, like this slow turn.

sammy winning was nice. 2 wins this year, might be slowly building him up for a protege/mentor battle with jericho? hoping that the daniels downfall involves him actually making the dark order something to watch, or just a full turn without em. he just needs a change.

the last segment went on way too long, but at the end, it did it's job. i wonder what moxley will do with the car next week

mjf is still great. orange cassidy is over as fuck.

low points:

most of the women's stuff. although i do like when they have talent ringside watching the match.

kinda continued on that, this luther shit. he might be cool, like his look, but what a shit debut. excaliber saying THAT'S LUTHER does nothing. he is part of a niche product from years ago. not sure how we were supposed to react to him. they did the same shit with butcher and the blade.

ddp went on way too long. not even really excited to see him wrestle, but at least it's a 6-man.

i would have had lucha bros go over the rhodes, but meh, that's neither here or there.

all still more entertaining that the live show yawnfest hosted by spudz in here

Nash Diesel
January 9th, 2020, 3:02 PM
high points:

i'm enjoying hangman more, like this slow turn.

sammy winning was nice. 2 wins this year, might be slowly building him up for a protege/mentor battle with jericho? hoping that the daniels downfall involves him actually making the dark order something to watch, or just a full turn without em. he just needs a change.

the last segment went on way too long, but at the end, it did it's job. i wonder what moxley will do with the car next week

mjf is still great. orange cassidy is over as fuck.

low points:

most of the women's stuff. although i do like when they have talent ringside watching the match.

kinda continued on that, this luther shit. he might be cool, like his look, but what a shit debut. excaliber saying THAT'S LUTHER does nothing. he is part of a niche product from years ago. not sure how we were supposed to react to him. they did the same shit with butcher and the blade.

ddp went on way too long. not even really excited to see him wrestle, but at least it's a 6-man.

i would have had lucha bros go over the rhodes, but meh, that's neither here or there.

all still more entertaining that the live show yawnfest hosted by spudz in here

I had no clue at all that he was in FMW. I've seen a ton of shows and I don't even remember seeing him at all. The only reason I even know who this guy is because a few months back Jericho tagged him in a picture with Mike Awesome I believe when he was Gladiator. But yeah, I don't remember him at all but I guess he's a solid dude.

Matthew
January 9th, 2020, 3:06 PM
i expect to see him vs jimmy havoc in one of his first matches. if he wrestles. dude is 51 and barely ever had a presence in the U.S.

might go watch him get killed by mike awesome in ecw to see what he even was like.

Nash Diesel
January 9th, 2020, 3:46 PM
i expect to see him vs jimmy havoc in one of his first matches. if he wrestles. dude is 51 and barely ever had a presence in the U.S.

might go watch him get killed by mike awesome in ecw to see what he even was like.

shit I didn't even know he was in ECW. But there were a lot of flash in the pan jabronis that you'd only see get mauled by 911 or some shit.

ckauffman28
January 9th, 2020, 3:46 PM
have no clue who Luther is.. was he in anything US prior?

Ringo
January 9th, 2020, 3:47 PM
He was in FMW between 93 and 94. By the sound of it he was mostly a midcarder who didn't even really do many deathmatches, let alone making a name for himself in them. He's also one of Jericho's oldest friends in wrestling and since he's never done much of note anywhere a lot of people are calling it cronyism.

Donald
January 9th, 2020, 3:56 PM
He lukes like if Billy Corgan and George Steele had a baby