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The Law
October 30th, 2019, 8:58 PM
Can't wait to hear Cornette's aneurysm about that match.
Spudz Mackenzie
October 30th, 2019, 9:01 PM
Can't wait to hear Cornette's aneurysm about that match.
For once, every bit of venom he's going to spew is 1000% deserved.
That was pure, grade-A WrestlCrap bullshit.
VHS
October 30th, 2019, 9:02 PM
Why is Cody just arriving now?
TooCool
October 30th, 2019, 9:08 PM
Fuck the few in the crowd who are trying to chant "What" at Jericho.
Tainted Eclipse
October 30th, 2019, 9:12 PM
kind of a lackluster show up until now but that was another great angle
Tainted Eclipse
October 30th, 2019, 9:14 PM
they need to do a sammy guevara vs. dustin feud
Spudz Mackenzie
October 30th, 2019, 9:16 PM
Undertale is so fucking stupid.
Tainted Eclipse
October 30th, 2019, 9:16 PM
what
Spudz Mackenzie
October 30th, 2019, 9:18 PM
they need to do a sammy guevara vs. dustin feud
Jake Busey dropped Dustin on that podium on the debut episode and the car hood now. Honestly, Jake Hager vs. Dustin seems like a more logical match. Maybe for Full Gear.
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what
That terrible Kenny Omega package they just played. And then he came out dressed like the skeleton dude from that game.
Morrison
October 30th, 2019, 9:21 PM
i was kinda hoping this weekly dynamite thread wouldn't be as shit as the RAW threads. sucks to be wrong.
Spudz Mackenzie
October 30th, 2019, 9:22 PM
i was kinda hoping this weekly dynamite thread wouldn't be as shit as the RAW threads. sucks to be wrong.
Sorry... I'll leave.
VHS
October 30th, 2019, 9:23 PM
i was kinda hoping this weekly dynamite thread wouldn't be as shit as the RAW threads. sucks to be wrong.
https://youtu.be/CnNa-f8ucNM
Spudz Mackenzie
October 30th, 2019, 9:30 PM
That triple powerbomb on Kip Sybian had to be a shot at John Moxley and The Shield. But nobody mentioned it.
Tainted Eclipse
October 30th, 2019, 9:31 PM
this is the weakest dynamite yet but still better than any raw or smackdown episode in years.
TooCool
October 30th, 2019, 9:32 PM
That triple powerbomb on Kip Sybian had to be a shot at John Moxley and The Shield. But nobody mentioned it.
Nah, you're over thinking it.
VHS
October 30th, 2019, 9:36 PM
Librarian schtick now... yeah, I'm out.
Spudz Mackenzie
October 30th, 2019, 9:39 PM
Nah, you're over thinking it.
JR could've worked it in. "Moxley used to do that move with a couple other guys you've probably heard of. Omega and The Bucks just hit Kat Sybian with it. Omega's obviously been scouting Moxley for months now."
Tainted Eclipse
October 30th, 2019, 9:39 PM
moxley vs. darby allin will be a good feud to get allin to the next level when the time is right.
The Law
October 30th, 2019, 9:43 PM
Awesome promo from Moxley.
Tainted Eclipse
October 30th, 2019, 9:44 PM
they really should have timed this show out so the finals of the tag tournament has entrances.
Spudz Mackenzie
October 30th, 2019, 9:45 PM
This is a big match to not have entrances.
Morrison
October 30th, 2019, 9:47 PM
Librarian schtick now... yeah, I'm out.
lol
Spudz Mackenzie
October 30th, 2019, 9:47 PM
Kaz just got dumped on his head....
Defrost
October 30th, 2019, 9:50 PM
Undertale is so fucking stupid.
Remember when Kenny wanted New Japan to play like an 8 minute video at the Dome and they told him to fuck off? Good times.
Tainted Eclipse
October 30th, 2019, 9:52 PM
Remember when Kenny wanted New Japan to play like an 8 minute video at the Dome and they told him to fuck off? Good times.
he has very bad creative instincts.
Spudz Mackenzie
October 30th, 2019, 9:52 PM
Remember when Kenny wanted New Japan to play like an 8 minute video at the Dome and they told him to fuck off? Good times.
I don't agree with everything Cornette says, but Kenny really is a pretentious fuck who'd burn out and leave in a crying, pussyfied huff if anybody in a real company told him "no" more than a couple times.
Spudz Mackenzie
October 30th, 2019, 9:59 PM
All's well that ends well?
Great little match.
TooCool
October 30th, 2019, 10:00 PM
Yikes.. that's a flat finish.
Spudz Mackenzie
October 30th, 2019, 10:00 PM
By the way, I called it.
Granted, I called it as SCU winning it as heels. But still, right team.
The Law
October 30th, 2019, 10:07 PM
I enjoyed that. Not their best episode, but they kept their storylines moving and had a couple hot angles.
Spudz Mackenzie
October 30th, 2019, 10:11 PM
I enjoyed that. Not their best episode, but they kept their storylines moving and had a couple hot angles.
A lot of people have been complaining that AEW feels like a WCW Nitro.
Tonight it felt more like an Attitude Era RAW. Just lots of crazy shit happening, not a ton of in-ring stuff that mattered, but the big stars felt like big stars and everybody had something going on.
Donald
October 30th, 2019, 10:25 PM
Big bad unsanctioned Jon moxley said ass on TV. How rebellious!
BGMaverick
October 31st, 2019, 12:29 AM
It felt like the first hour was the least interesting hour Dynamite has had since the show started. I couldn't get into very much of that stuff. It also felt like everything in that hour was longer than it needed to be. Every single aspect of it.
Second hour was much, much better.
Donald
October 31st, 2019, 10:06 AM
So who had the better show this week? AEW or NXT?
BGMaverick
October 31st, 2019, 10:27 AM
So who had the better show this week? AEW or NXT?
The good thing is, neither of them are bad.
It depends on what you're ultimately looking for. The atmosphere is clearly more engaging with AEW and that generally helps lift the level of anything that is happening. I think NXT is now being subvert with the proclamation of Broadway. They're fine embracing their smaller scale feel right now but it's probably changing at the end of the year. Production quality is pretty much on par for both brands. Commentary is just up to your preference. I personally think the in-ring work has been markedly better and much more consistent on NXT. Promos or non in-ring segments are favoring AEW but I think the gap is narrowing. The women's division for NXT is absolutely throttling AEW. It's not even close. Tag divisions are pretty close but depends on what your cup of tea is. Probably the same can be said for the top of the card, too. The midcard and floating characters are much more "proven" when it comes to NXT.
I'd rank things as:
NXT with AEW not far behind
A seismic drop down to Smackdown (with the scale holding but potentially sliding down)
Double that drop and you're at Raw.
Bagel
October 31st, 2019, 2:34 PM
I'm hoping AEW gets more top-tier talent eventually because the segment with Hager and the other guy I'm forgetting when they attacked Rhodes... just didn't feel as impactful as it should. It was like having the Mean Street Posse do your dirty work. I'm sure they're still figuring out some of the roster, but like all shows, some things were great and others felt flat. Can't speak for RAW since I watched so little this week, maybe about a half hour.
NXT just feels like everything clicks, not sure if it's the arena size, the quality of the roster - Watched some of Grimes when Trevor Lee in Impact and never thought too highly of him but he's impressed me. Just seems like there is something to everyone, the way they present them you don't really feel like they have many jobber quality names out there.
Honey_Badger
October 31st, 2019, 2:37 PM
I about lost it when Jericho pulled out the cigar.
Dustin and Swagger's involvement in the Jericho/Cody feud has been great.
Moxley's promo was fire. He is a star in this company.
Donald
October 31st, 2019, 4:09 PM
He was a star in WWE...
BGMaverick
October 31st, 2019, 4:38 PM
Week one: 1,409,000 viewers
Week two: 1,018,000 viewers (plus 122,000 on TruTV)
Week three: 1,014,000 viewers
Week four: 963,000 viewers
Week five: 759,000 viewers
Honey_Badger
November 1st, 2019, 11:14 AM
To their defense, they were up against Game 7 of the World Series and NBA games.
I hope 800,000 is right around where they hit their floor.
Donald
November 1st, 2019, 3:29 PM
Next week they'll be up against The Voice season finale, or Christmas on Ice, or some shit that people will use as an excuse. It's not ok that a wrestling show says "Well we had lower ratings because of this and that" The goal should be to get people to stop watching that other crap and come to you.
The same applies to WWE. Fuck you pro wrestling for resting in mediocrity, complacancy. Do something to shake the world up. Please. Middle aged Jericho, Cody creating a company just so he can be world champion, a guy in a mask pretending to be a villain, and moving to FOX isn't the answer.
Defrost
November 2nd, 2019, 10:10 AM
The meaning behind Omega's entrance video as obviously transcribed by Meltzer from what Omega told him in this week's WON is fucking deranged.
Tainted Eclipse
November 2nd, 2019, 10:56 AM
kenny's an obnoxious dork for that video but new japan is also very dumb and stubborn for refusing a working relationship with AEW if that's indeed the case.
Defrost
November 2nd, 2019, 12:27 PM
kenny's an obnoxious dork for that video but new japan is also very dumb and stubborn for refusing a working relationship with AEW if that's indeed the case.
I disagree. I don’t see how NJPW benefits if you look at AAA’s relationship with AEW. Khan doesn’t want his guys working in America for anyone but AEW. NJPW don’t need any help anywhere but America. So why would it help them?
Donald
November 3rd, 2019, 1:52 AM
I disagree. I don’t see how NJPW benefits if you look at AAA’s relationship with AEW. Khan doesn’t want his guys working in America for anyone but AEW. NJPW don’t need any help anywhere but America. So why would it help them?
You are a.fucking lunatic
Defrost
November 3rd, 2019, 3:57 AM
You are a.fucking lunatic
?
Donald
November 3rd, 2019, 11:43 AM
I don't know, I was drunk. Sorry
Tainted Eclipse
November 3rd, 2019, 11:56 AM
I disagree. I don’t see how NJPW benefits if you look at AAA’s relationship with AEW. Khan doesn’t want his guys working in America for anyone but AEW. NJPW don’t need any help anywhere but America. So why would it help them?
it's not like they have to run joint shows and be joined at the hip or anything. there's just no good reason for njpw not to work with guys like omega the same way they'll work with guys like moxley and jericho, to bring him in for big shows and matches now and then. omega has more value for them than either jericho or moxley.
Tainted Eclipse
November 5th, 2019, 8:49 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIpSTlNW4AAL6bU?format=jpg&name=large
Donald
November 5th, 2019, 8:51 PM
Is it called Triggered cause he looks like a horse? And is he called Le Champion cause he's a sissy like the French?
VHS
November 6th, 2019, 12:30 AM
That womens match was sloppy as all frick.
chatty
November 6th, 2019, 1:21 AM
Peter Avalon just reminds me of a really poor version of Damian Sandow.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 6th, 2019, 1:37 AM
Peter Avalon just reminds me of a really poor version of Damian Sandow.
And Damian Sandow was just a poor man’s version of “The Genius” Lanny Poffo.
Donald
November 6th, 2019, 8:39 AM
I don't know what Sandow is up to these days, but considering he was in a tag team with Cody Rhodes at one point, I'm expecting him to debut on AEW and win a title.
Vandal
November 6th, 2019, 10:37 AM
I don't know what Sandow is up to these days, but considering he was in a tag team with Cody Rhodes at one point, I'm expecting him to debut on AEW and win a title.
He has been on the last couple of NWA POWERRR episodes as Aron Stevens.
Morrison
November 6th, 2019, 9:37 PM
trent/pac was a great opener. loved the heat for the OC kick spot.
that cody promo was amazing. it's so cool hearing genuine emotion and issues being addressed. I imagine this is a long game and cody loses the title match and we get a long term story about him getting the opportunity to fight for the belt back. also teasing an inner circle/elite war games match, my god, yes please.
Tainted Eclipse
November 6th, 2019, 9:41 PM
the dark order are actually noticeable less lame with uno and the geek minions wearing shirts. still very lame, but less.
Morrison
November 6th, 2019, 9:53 PM
jwkcnsldkld that jericho package.
Tainted Eclipse
November 6th, 2019, 10:16 PM
this brandi thing doesnt look good
Morrison
November 6th, 2019, 10:17 PM
it's fine.
Tainted Eclipse
November 6th, 2019, 10:34 PM
this show's gone by very quickly
TooCool
November 6th, 2019, 11:02 PM
Love how everyone who has beef against each other were all involved in that final segment leading up to the PPV. Fun stuff.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 7th, 2019, 12:08 AM
Honestly, an Aron Stevens/Cody Rhodes feud or even a partnership would be really interesting. I wish NWA and AEW would open some kind of working relationship.
"The Next Generation vs. The Best Generation" - AEW vs. NWA Powerrr.
Jim Cornette could gut Excalibur with a rusty fishing knife in the back for never taking off his mask.
Vandal
November 7th, 2019, 12:18 AM
I would love to hear Corny calling an All Petite Wrestling match staring the Young Fucks, and Kenny Olivier Omega and all their Cos Play Wrestling Friends. That would be a riot. Make sure Jelly Jenela, and Marko Stunt are involved and Corny will be in Heel Heaven.
BGMaverick
November 7th, 2019, 1:19 AM
What an awkward botch by the ref for the opening match. Good match, though.
Cody's promo and Jericho's video were good in their own unique way.
The main event wasn't anything special, but the post match chaos was solid.
Donald
November 7th, 2019, 6:55 AM
So Cody's gonna lose, then come back as Cosmodust and win the title?
Vandal
November 7th, 2019, 9:36 AM
So Cody's gonna lose, then come back as Cosmodust and win the title?
The Midnight Rider, rides again!!!
Matthew
November 7th, 2019, 11:38 AM
middle of the road show, but had some good highpoints: jericho's parody, cody's promo, mox/omega vignette, a better than average woman's match, the mayhem at the end.
had fun
BGMaverick
November 7th, 2019, 6:02 PM
Week one: 1,409,000 viewers
Week two: 1,018,000 viewers (plus 122,000 on TruTV)
Week three: 1,014,000 viewers
Week four: 963,000 viewers
Week five: 759,000 viewers
Week six: 822,000 viewers
chatty
November 7th, 2019, 6:49 PM
Enjoyed Pac v Trent, was a good match.. Kinda hope Trent gets moved away from the tag team and goes solo. The Cassidy spot was funny but not sure how long he can go as a comedy character before it gets boring. Weird botch for the ending, was Pac meant to lift trent uo to put him in a submission or did the ref botch. Was weird.
If Private Party learn how to tell a story instead of just being spot monkeys they have great potential. They do some amazing spots which makes their matches entertaining but they almost do too much. Dig their finisher.
Womens match was better, last two weeks have been an improvenent. Seen as though Shanna was in both Im giving her the credit.
Spears match was what it was but Im liking Spears heel work in the ring, stiffer approach, more aggressive. Hes massively improved from. WWE with that extra freedom.
Codys promo was quality, strange angle tongo down but I guess I dunnonwhere they are going with it which is good. I mean we all know Cody will be in the title picture again even if he loses but its intriguing at least. Its too early for him to win it though imo
Loved the Inner Circle Promo. Hagar just standing saying nothing and Jericho, the youngest ever AEW champion.
Last match and fall out was great for a fall out show, like all the feuds intertwining. Love the BROOM OF DOOM, its so bad, its great.
Murphy
November 8th, 2019, 5:56 AM
Loved the wild finish, loved the Cody promo, loved the Jericho package, Shawn Spears is so much more interesting, as is Pac. Pumped for tomorrow night.
And I never thought I'd warm to Tony Schiavone, but he's been great.
Version 6
November 8th, 2019, 10:34 PM
Cody's promo was my favourite since Punk's pipebomb.
Sinner
November 10th, 2019, 12:27 PM
I kind of want to see Jericho & Guevara to win the Tag Belts, only to lose them to Cody & Dustin. With Cody pinning Jericho.
At the next PPV it would then be Cody & Dustin vs. Lucha Bros.
I really wanna see Dustin and Pentagon mix it up
Tainted Eclipse
November 10th, 2019, 6:16 PM
PAC vs. page rematch announced for dynamite. very much not happy about them picking up one of the worst WWE tendencies: PPV rematch the very next episode of TV, making the PPV match seem meaningless.
on the plus side, SCU vs. jericho and sammy for the tag titles sounds really cool.
Morrison
November 10th, 2019, 6:21 PM
PAC vs. page rematch announced for dynamite. very much not happy about them picking up one of the worst WWE tendencies: PPV rematch the very next episode of TV, making the PPV match seem meaningless.
on the plus side, SCU vs. jericho and sammy for the tag titles sounds really cool.
ugh, not a fan of running pac/page again. that kinda booking is one of the things that tired me out the most about wwe's programming. hopefully there's a reason for it.
im for that tag title match, though i wonder why they wouldnt put PnP in that spot, since theyre an actual tag team and just beat the bucks. i imagine maybe some angle shenanigans around jericho or sammy is there to take the pinfall, and they arent ready for PnP to take a loss.
Donald
November 11th, 2019, 2:35 PM
ugh, not a fan of running pac/page again. that kinda booking is one of the things that tired me out the most about wwe's programming. hopefully there's a reason for it.
im for that tag title match, though i wonder why they wouldnt put PnP in that spot, since theyre an actual tag team and just beat the bucks. i imagine maybe some angle shenanigans around jericho or sammy is there to take the pinfall, and they arent ready for PnP to take a loss.
Regarding Pac/Page, do you think it could have to do with the nearness in ratings last week for AEW and NXT? Maybe they want to pull out all the stops to ensure victory this week. Should be a good match regardless of the reasons.
Donald
November 11th, 2019, 2:37 PM
How do you think Cody will get his eventual world title reign? Turn heel and go against his word?
chatty
November 11th, 2019, 3:25 PM
What do you think are the feuds going forward. Id like:
MJF v Cody
Dustin v Jericho (though Hagar makes more sense)
P&P v Bucks to continue
Spears v Page
Pac v Moxley v Omega
Kong v Riho
SCU v Lucha Bros
Coyple of feuds continued but some fresh ones in there. Id like Dustin to get a title shot, hes earned it and barely ever gotten one in all his years in the main corps.
Theres not a lot for Moxley or Omega to do so Id just continue their feud but add Pac into it fully.
After that you can switch things up a but but think the two tag feuds have more life in them and Id like to see them just pull the trigger on Kong and put Riho out of her misery.
Psycho666Soldier
November 11th, 2019, 3:59 PM
Moxley/Omega should not continue. After a fight like that, with such a decisive end, it's time for both to move on, I think. Only real argument I can see is that Moxley wants the official win over Omega, not a spiritual victory. But I think it's smarter to keep them apart and let Moxley keep rising while Omega can slowly bounce back.
BGMaverick
November 11th, 2019, 4:02 PM
Moxley/Omega should not continue. After a fight like that, with such a decisive end, it's time for both to move on, I think. Only real argument I can see is that Moxley wants the official win over Omega, not a spiritual victory. But I think it's smarter to keep them apart and let Moxley keep rising while Omega can slowly bounce back.
I wonder if they'd want to splinter off to Pac/Moxley in a true feud and Omega/Page (if the teasing they've been doing on BTE with Page is worth anything).
Spudz Mackenzie
November 12th, 2019, 4:13 AM
I wonder if they'd want to splinter off to Pac/Moxley in a true feud and Omega/Page (if the teasing they've been doing on BTE with Page is worth anything).
Omega/Page under the auspices of Page thinking Omega might have taken things too far against Moxley and Omega snapping and going full heel on one of his buddies and eventually challenging him to a "real" wrestling match to show he "still has it".
PAC/Moxley, with Moxley winning a clean "wrestling feud" that doesn't delve into garbage/hardcore bullshit. Eventually, we'd get Jericho/Moxley for the AEW Title down the line.
Also, can we dump Riho, have Mercedes Martinez come in, eat her alive, and win the Women's Title? Martinez/Dr. Britt Dentist sounds pretty damn good to me. Instead, she's being wasted on AEW Dark against Sadie Gibbs and Allie with a green partner in one of most Botch-A-Mania matches I've seen this side of a local indie show.
Nash Diesel
November 12th, 2019, 4:30 PM
Regarding Pac/Page, do you think it could have to do with the nearness in ratings last week for AEW and NXT? Maybe they want to pull out all the stops to ensure victory this week. Should be a good match regardless of the reasons.
If they think Pac v. Page=boost in ratings, then they're delusional. I'm either mentally blocking it out or it's not happening, but where are the fans of Adam Page?
My son was telling me that the original plans for the World title was to have Pac v. Page and Page go over. But Pac refused to do the job then, so they switched it to Jericho v. Page. Whether that's true, IDK. But Adam Page is fucking stale.
Matthew
November 12th, 2019, 6:45 PM
he's grown on me in the past 3 weeks or so
Psycho666Soldier
November 12th, 2019, 9:14 PM
I definitely like him a lot better when they're not trying to push him through the roof. Let him fuck around in the mid/upper midcard. Build that clout with his ring work, because the dude can turn out some bangers when he's all the way on.
Murphy
November 12th, 2019, 9:21 PM
Page has really grown on me. I like that dude a lot. Was not keen early on at all.
Tainted Eclipse
November 13th, 2019, 9:08 PM
moxley vs. jericho next?
Tainted Eclipse
November 13th, 2019, 9:13 PM
i hope they don't re-run omega/moxley. let moxley keep the win instead of doing the return job, he feels like a big star right now. kenny needs a match with someone he can have an athletic match of the year style match with, like fenix.
Tainted Eclipse
November 13th, 2019, 9:16 PM
it's a damn shame they haven't been able to get jungle boy and luchasaurus on tv yet.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 13th, 2019, 9:26 PM
Woah, this match got sloppy near the end. Marko falls off the ropes going for a springboard and Stu Greyson almost kills the kid on some elaborate back breaker.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 13th, 2019, 9:27 PM
Nobody wants to join The Dark Order. Not even The Dark Order wants to be in The Dark Order.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 13th, 2019, 9:29 PM
Welcome to Jurassic Park.
Life finds a way.
Tainted Eclipse
November 13th, 2019, 9:30 PM
the whole dark order thing was worth it for that
Spudz Mackenzie
November 13th, 2019, 9:35 PM
Leva Bates needs a gimmick change. This librarian thing is grim death.
Tainted Eclipse
November 13th, 2019, 9:40 PM
moxley/darby is perfect.
Defrost
November 13th, 2019, 9:42 PM
Darby Allin is my favorite guy in this company
Tainted Eclipse
November 13th, 2019, 9:43 PM
he's really, really good. has the potential to be like a rey mysterio style small guy main eventer.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 13th, 2019, 9:44 PM
Darby Allin is AEW’s Jeff Hardy.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 13th, 2019, 9:49 PM
It’s like AEW is listening to Cornette tonight. Cut back on the long matches, keep it simple, and one guy or girl gets smashed over big in a couple minutes. Moxley and Nyla both got that treatment tonight. And I don’t hate it.
Tainted Eclipse
November 13th, 2019, 9:49 PM
i'd book dustin to beat hager in a grudge match when he gets back, then go into a feud with sammy guevara and put him over.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 13th, 2019, 9:51 PM
Brandi walking like a gazelle on ice in those heels.
Psycho666Soldier
November 13th, 2019, 9:57 PM
JR keeps calling Full Gear "Fully Loaded" :lol:
Spudz Mackenzie
November 13th, 2019, 10:02 PM
JR keeps calling Full Gear "Fully Loaded" :lol:
Old habits are hard to break.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 13th, 2019, 10:09 PM
Wardlow?
Tainted Eclipse
November 13th, 2019, 10:23 PM
this is definitely their best match so far
Spudz Mackenzie
November 13th, 2019, 10:26 PM
JR pointing out the “Louis Still Rules” shirt and Tony saying to save your money is fantastic.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 13th, 2019, 10:31 PM
This is an intense looking fight I can only see in a quarter of my screen.
The Law
November 13th, 2019, 10:35 PM
Great episode so far. Keeping the matches shorter, Hangman/Pac was great, awesome Jericho/MFJ promo, love this angle with Santana and Ortiz.
They're still growing here, but it's just so much more exciting and better written than WWE right now.
Defrost
November 13th, 2019, 10:45 PM
This has been easily the best episode so far. Seems like they are figuring out the right ratios of wrestling to angles to promos.
Tainted Eclipse
November 13th, 2019, 10:46 PM
agreed this is the best episode so far.
Tainted Eclipse
November 13th, 2019, 10:48 PM
getting kinda triggered how many people in aew can't pronounce 'le'
BGMaverick
November 14th, 2019, 1:30 AM
It's remarkable how over Luchasaurus is with the crowd.
Allin and Moxley is a good pairing. I'm curious how they try to mix it up versus what Darby has done with Cody and Jericho.
The Jericho/MJF thing had some promise and then it went to rehashing when Jericho was teasing dissension with Kevin Owens.
Seems like they did a nice job of mixing matches, character development, chaos, and promo time. I thought they did a nice job of cycling in new talent with the PPV out of the way.
Murphy
November 14th, 2019, 5:46 AM
Nick Jackson mentioned on twitter that rather than have win/loss records go on and on, there would be a reset at some point. Like a new season. I really like that idea. :yes:
PurePlayer
November 14th, 2019, 11:06 AM
Can anyone explain Orange Cassidy to me? I don't watch every week but I try and catch as much as I can but this is the first time seeing him
Horatio
November 14th, 2019, 11:13 AM
Can anyone explain Orange Cassidy to me? I don't watch every week but I try and catch as much as I can but this is the first time seeing him
I think he's supposed to be that guy that did psychedelic drugs and thought that he turned into a glass of orange juice.
That's why they call him "Freshly Squeezed"...
Matthew
November 14th, 2019, 11:17 AM
he's just a slacker
Bagel
November 14th, 2019, 11:34 AM
His gimmick is being Ryan Gosling's stunt double.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 14th, 2019, 11:36 AM
Anyone else see an AEW Title shot in Scorpio Sky’s future?
He pinned the champion and he’s been on a roll lately. Giving him a TV main event against Jericho wouldn’t be a bad idea.
Psycho666Soldier
November 14th, 2019, 11:39 AM
Anyone else see an AEW Title shot in Scorpio Sky’s future?
He pinned the champion and he’s been on a roll lately. Giving him a TV main event against Jericho wouldn’t be a bad idea.
The way he reacted to the win seems to imply that. Kind of an odd choice, but it came about organically, and he's crazy over after the tournament. It'll definitely make for a solid TV main event. I'm not too sure where it goes from there unless CD is involved, but it almost seems like he's destined for some shit with Pentagon.
Matthew
November 14th, 2019, 11:51 AM
the replay i watched didn't have the picture-in-picture shit, so how long did that bucks/p&p brawl go for on the main screen? the beginning felt like it went on forever without much happening.
PurePlayer
November 14th, 2019, 12:28 PM
I think he's supposed to be that guy that did psychedelic drugs and thought that he turned into a glass of orange juice.
That's why they call him "Freshly Squeezed"...
does he wrestle? the fans gave a huge reaction when he was in the bathroom
Matthew
November 14th, 2019, 12:34 PM
yes. usually with his hands in his pockets as much as he can
Matthew
November 14th, 2019, 12:46 PM
also, daniels was just becoming interesting, only for him to come out this week with his shit freddie mercury gimmick that makes not sense
Donald
November 14th, 2019, 1:17 PM
yes. usually with his hands in his pockets as much as he can
That sounds amazing. I've only seen his spot with Tommy Dreamer in the Casino Battle Royale, and that time he dove onto a bunch of guys with his hands in his pockets. I'd like to see him wrestle.
chatty
November 14th, 2019, 3:27 PM
also, daniels was just becoming interesting, only for him to come out this week with his shit freddie mercury gimmick that makes not sense
Whybis AEW obsessed with this Freddie Mercury gimmick, they had that plump female come down dressed up as him as well, it makes no sesnse ans looks stupid as fuck.
Horatio
November 14th, 2019, 5:08 PM
does he wrestle? the fans gave a huge reaction when he was in the bathroom
Yeah, he's quite a character inring wise.
He's a two time IWTV Independent Wrestling champion, the only one so far...
BGMaverick
November 14th, 2019, 5:32 PM
Week one: 1,409,000 viewers
Week two: 1,018,000 viewers (plus 122,000 on TruTV)
Week three: 1,014,000 viewers
Week four: 963,000 viewers
Week five: 759,000 viewers
Week six: 822,000 viewers
Week seven: 957,000 viewers
Psycho666Soldier
November 14th, 2019, 6:13 PM
Whybis AEW obsessed with this Freddie Mercury gimmick, they had that plump female come down dressed up as him as well, it makes no sesnse ans looks stupid as fuck.
That's not really an AEW thing. Both CD and Emi Sakura had those gimmicks before AEW started. Well, CD might have not quite been there, so I might agree with him.
It is very ignorant, though.
Badger
November 14th, 2019, 6:55 PM
Weird half-baked out the box idea given I haven’t seen this latest episode yet and won’t until after tomorrow night given ITV schedule. Whenever Cody comes back from injury, Cody can’t challenge for the title but to avoid possible WWE copyright “Starrydust” gets revenge on MJF and challenges Jericho down the line.
Morrison
November 14th, 2019, 7:22 PM
i honestly wouldn't be surprised if this ends up somehow going into midnight rider territory.
mth
November 14th, 2019, 9:53 PM
Weird half-baked out the box idea given I haven’t seen this latest episode yet and won’t until after tomorrow night given ITV schedule. Whenever Cody comes back from injury, Cody can’t challenge for the title but to avoid possible WWE copyright “Starrydust” gets revenge on MJF and challenges Jericho down the line.
Donald already suggested Cosmodust. ;)
Badger
November 14th, 2019, 9:57 PM
Donald already suggested Cosmodust. ;)
Ooh I like Cosmodust.
I’d love it if they did this months down and have Le Champion Jericho still be champ for months and challenge down the line
Sasori
November 14th, 2019, 11:45 PM
That's the only way the system will work. Solves so many problems.
Murphy
November 15th, 2019, 5:24 AM
Really looking forward to a Jericho/Sky Dynamite main event in the coming weeks. :yes:
Solid episode. Didn't dislike anything and I bloody love Darby Allin. Him and Mox is going to be fun.
BGMaverick
November 15th, 2019, 12:27 PM
Nick Jackson mentioned on twitter that rather than have win/loss records go on and on, there would be a reset at some point. Like a new season. I really like that idea. :yes:
I honestly didn't see how this wasn't going to be the solution lol. They reset in other sports, so this should be no different.
Donald
November 15th, 2019, 1:45 PM
I think they'll abandon the idea of win/loss records after a while. It's cool and all, but I don't think it really works in the wrestling world.
Psycho666Soldier
November 16th, 2019, 1:28 AM
I think they'll abandon the idea of win/loss records after a while. It's cool and all, but I don't think it really works in the wrestling world.
You might be right in the long run, but the reset concept makes it completely workable. They only have to follow the ranking for like 6-12 months, then they can start fresh and go whatever direction they want.
They've actually handled the concept of rankings really well so far. I like that I haven't watched AEW Dark, but when Allie randomly appears on my screen, they explain that she's been working her way to Dynamite by climbing the rankings through Dark matches. That's solid, subtle, and workable storytelling that doesn't need any kind of immediate payoff.
Tainted Eclipse
November 16th, 2019, 10:36 AM
it would be cool if they made an explicit rule that you had to have a certain win/loss ratio or number of wins in singles matches to challenge for the title. they could build scorpio/jericho by scorpio having to take on singles matches every week to get his record good enough to challenge and the inner circle can keep trying to screw him. good way to build for a month or so up to the title match.
son_of_foley
November 16th, 2019, 11:10 AM
That's the only way the system will work. Solves so many problems.
Absolutely. Would be cool if 1 'season' was scheduled ahead of time just to see how that could work. If you knew you were facing X in 3 weeks etc what sort of build or interesting things could they do.
Matches aren't necessarily grudge matches etc so story telling can be a bit different. I think it makes PPV's harder though
Gampo
November 16th, 2019, 2:31 PM
There are only a few things I have enjoyed about AEW.. MJF, PAC and the Lucha Bros(mainly because Pentagon Jr is one of my favorite current wrestlers).. the rest of it doesn't really interest me thus far. I find it hard to watch without fast forwarding through a lot of it.. I hope that changes as time goes on.
Nash Diesel
November 19th, 2019, 4:18 PM
Nick Jackson mentioned on twitter that rather than have win/loss records go on and on, there would be a reset at some point. Like a new season. I really like that idea. :yes:
It only works in real sports because there is a huge gap between seasons.
Now imagine you're the Boston Celtics. Your record is 100-30 but then the next week, it's reset to 0-0. All that hard work, for nothing.
Put that in wrestling land. Moxley goes 25-4 and the next day he's back to 0-0. And he didn't even get a title shot because of scheduling and booking ignorance.
Why don't they just hit up the folks who track all the wrestlers wins/losses online and just have them sent over AEW data weekly?
chatty
November 19th, 2019, 7:44 PM
Id be a fan of them keeping the records full on. Use old school boxing as a guide. You had old timers with 50 loses become champions or top contenders, younhad good boxers with over 100 loses. What they need to do then is tell the story of how they started off slow but got better with each match and worked their way up the ladder.
The main problem they have with records being meaningful is that if someone gets hot they cant hotshot them into the main event without putting work in first, building theor record whereas sometimes in wrestling people can jump up the roster very quickly.
Nash Diesel
November 19th, 2019, 8:42 PM
Id be a fan of them keeping the records full on. Use old school boxing as a guide. You had old timers with 50 loses become champions or top contenders, younhad good boxers with over 100 loses. What they need to do then is tell the story of how they started off slow but got better with each match and worked their way up the ladder.
The main problem they have with records being meaningful is that if someone gets hot they cant hotshot them into the main event without putting work in first, building theor record whereas sometimes in wrestling people can jump up the roster very quickly.
If they don't make every angle centered around rankings as the end all be all they'll be fine. MMA does it all the time, giving low ranked or even unranked fighters big fights based on storyline and/or drawing power.
son_of_foley
November 20th, 2019, 4:56 AM
It only works in real sports because there is a huge gap between seasons.
Now imagine you're the Boston Celtics. Your record is 100-30 but then the next week, it's reset to 0-0. All that hard work, for nothing.
Put that in wrestling land. Moxley goes 25-4 and the next day he's back to 0-0. And he didn't even get a title shot because of scheduling and booking ignorance.
Why don't they just hit up the folks who track all the wrestlers wins/losses online and just have them sent over AEW data weekly?
I think it's more the finals than the gap between the seasons right?
Like if AEW had finals month that built to their biggest POV of the year which was KOTR style for the different divisions with a semi and then final that might be kinda nice.
Next TV show you can have them getting their championship rings or whatever and the belt becomes more like the yellow jersey at the tour de france
Spudz Mackenzie
November 20th, 2019, 9:13 PM
Time for some AEW Wednesday Night...
https://cdn-images-1.listennotes.com/podcasts/highly/dynomite-sfQV23dm-I0-SqPab3IFv7n.1400x1400.jpg
Spudz Mackenzie
November 20th, 2019, 9:16 PM
Fenix vs. Nick Buck was a solid opener.
Tainted Eclipse
November 20th, 2019, 9:17 PM
that fenix/nick match was way better than any of the bucks/lucha bros tag matches. going under 15 minutes was a big reason why.
Psycho666Soldier
November 20th, 2019, 9:17 PM
That was such a spot-fest, and I give no fucks. That match was badass.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 20th, 2019, 9:19 PM
that fenix/nick match was way better than any of the bucks/lucha bros tag matches. going under 15 minutes was a big reason why.
Sure feels like there’s less potential for a lot of overly complicated, car crash bullshit in a singles match. Less moving parts and two less guys trying to get all their shit in.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 20th, 2019, 9:20 PM
Dr. Britt Dentist looks like a hotter, slightly older Allie.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 20th, 2019, 9:34 PM
Damn, that was really Sean ‘O Haire “I’m not telling you anything you didn’t already know” - type shit in that Dark Order package.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 20th, 2019, 9:44 PM
There’s two people in this battle royal who should win; Hangman Page or MJF.
Several guys who should quit the business and go deliver pizzas: Jimmy Havoc, Sonny Kiss, Chuck Taylor and The Pocket Tard.
And then there’s everyone else.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 20th, 2019, 9:51 PM
Thank God for small mercies.
The two guys who should have won, won.
Imagine that.
Tainted Eclipse
November 20th, 2019, 10:07 PM
that jericho segment was so, so good. incredible.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 20th, 2019, 10:26 PM
I can’t believe it. An actual tag-team match has just broken out here.
There’s tagging in and out. Actual heat on one of the babyfaces.
Did the spirit of Jim Cornette’s career agent this match?
Spudz Mackenzie
November 20th, 2019, 10:41 PM
Welcome back, Dustin. Great return.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 20th, 2019, 10:44 PM
Darby Allin is AEW’s Jeff Hardy.
Jon Moxley could be his Undertaker.
Horatio
November 20th, 2019, 10:51 PM
More charismatic than enigmatic, Darby Allin is like something fucked up leftover from Special K in RoH...which is kinda like Jeff Hardy, too...
Spudz Mackenzie
November 20th, 2019, 10:59 PM
Fuck me, that was a good match.
BGMaverick
November 21st, 2019, 12:57 AM
Opener was fun, certainly helped by the fact that it involved the more interesting performers from the respective tag teams. The teams have great chemistry together but you can tell that Rey and Nick are just the crazy ones and aren't scared to try anything. It's incredible that they can crank out these types of performances and still come back for more pretty frequently.
Still not feeling anything related to The Dark Order.
I don't know what it says about Billy Gunn getting the spots he had and looking physically imposing compared to most of the participants but it is what it is.
The Jericho/Sky segment was a little long but it was good. The setup was solid. The tag champs should be a team with no prior history. That gives the rub to Sky and allows to elevate him for a couple of weeks. Hager/Luchasaurus will be good business, too, whenever it happens.
Fun main event. Those were two styles that worked together very, very well. A hidden takeaway was the fact there was a young female and a kid in Allin makeup. That shows that AEW is able to connect to a young audience and that has to be very exciting for them.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 21st, 2019, 3:14 AM
Billy Gunn is like Godzilla compared to half of All Petite Wrestling's roster. Honestly, the only guy in that match who doesn't look like a middle school kid or an absolute dork ass idiot was Adam Page. Even MJF looks like a little weasel, punk ass. But that works for him.
Honey_Badger
November 21st, 2019, 11:58 AM
MJF looked good in the ring with Billy. But yes, Billy was superior to almost everyone in that match. It's ridiculous. Gunn and Swagger were average in WWE, but it's obvious they are superior in AEW. Imagine if a guy Like Strowman ever came over... insane.
Donald
November 21st, 2019, 1:01 PM
MJF looked good in the ring with Billy. But yes, Billy was superior to almost everyone in that match. It's ridiculous. Gunn and Swagger were average in WWE, but it's obvious they are superior in AEW. Imagine if a guy Like Strowman ever came over... insane.
Do you think guys like Gunn and Swagger and Strowman truly are average, or do you think WWE just held them down from their true potential? And does that mean that AEW is pushing them due to their name recognition?
Honey_Badger
November 21st, 2019, 1:27 PM
Do you think guys like Gunn and Swagger and Strowman truly are average, or do you think WWE just held them down from their true potential? And does that mean that AEW is pushing them due to their name recognition?
I meant average in regards to size, not potential or ability.
Donald
November 21st, 2019, 2:05 PM
Ah
BGMaverick
November 21st, 2019, 5:12 PM
Week one: 1,409,000 viewers
Week two: 1,018,000 viewers (plus 122,000 on TruTV)
Week three: 1,014,000 viewers
Week four: 963,000 viewers
Week five: 759,000 viewers
Week six: 822,000 viewers
Week seven: 957,000 viewers
Week eight: 893,000 (first week to lose to NXT)
PurePlayer
November 21st, 2019, 5:24 PM
i am not surprised NXT won this week with the survivor series hype. I'd imagine AEW wins next week but I am loving both shows right now.
BGMaverick
November 21st, 2019, 5:28 PM
Both shows are clearly more entertaining on a consistent basis compared to Raw and Smackdown.
PurePlayer
November 21st, 2019, 5:30 PM
Both shows are clearly more entertaining on a consistent basis compared to Raw and Smackdown.
exactly
Tainted Eclipse
November 21st, 2019, 8:25 PM
to me kenny omega doesn't even feel like one of the 10 biggest stars in this promotion. what a descent.
BGMaverick
November 22nd, 2019, 12:20 AM
to me kenny omega doesn't even feel like one of the 10 biggest stars in this promotion. what a descent.
The way he's portrayed week to week is certainly perplexing.
VHS
November 22nd, 2019, 2:53 AM
I just don't buy Kenny. His promo thing this week or whatever the fuck it was supposed to be was... weird. He sounds like he doesn't enjoy cutting promos, and his funny-haha weight lifting gag was flat.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 22nd, 2019, 8:22 AM
Kenny Omega doesn't seem very tough to me.
Kenny probably couldn't strap a bucket of fried chicken to his back and run through a starving African village without getting his ass kicked and his chicken stolen.
mth
November 22nd, 2019, 11:50 AM
This is fun...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1Qwmu_hrf8
I'm not "all in" but these guys are some of the AEW cast that have my interest.
Donald
November 22nd, 2019, 12:28 PM
That's some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen :lol:
Sasori
November 22nd, 2019, 2:53 PM
It's clear Donald has Fear of a Jurassic Planet
Donald
November 22nd, 2019, 3:34 PM
You'd be correct.
chatty
November 25th, 2019, 10:43 AM
to me kenny omega doesn't even feel like one of the 10 biggest stars in this promotion. what a descent.
Its not a format hes excelling at but it has only been seven weeks so plenty time for him to shine.
Id prefer AEW to cut down to one hour a week tbh and be more like how NXT was with different wrestlers each week, that makes them seem nire important when they do turn uo and it cuts out the rubbish oarts when they need filler or have nothing for sone guys to do.
With Omega at some point they will either have to have him go on a winning run through to the title or turn him heel.ut plenty time before that.
One of the problems of not having a deep roster is that were already getting cinstant rrepeat matches, Omega v Pac again this week after Pac v Page repeat last week.
The roster needs more depth. Jerichos already been in with Cody, Omega, Paige, Allen and this week Scorpio Sky and were only seven weeks in. By Christmas he'll have wrestled everyone on the roster.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 25th, 2019, 2:59 PM
Its not a format hes excelling at but it has only been seven weeks so plenty time for him to shine.
Id prefer AEW to cut down to one hour a week tbh and be more like how NXT was with different wrestlers each week, that makes them seem nire important when they do turn uo and it cuts out the rubbish oarts when they need filler or have nothing for sone guys to do.
With Omega at some point they will either have to have him go on a winning run through to the title or turn him heel.ut plenty time before that.
One of the problems of not having a deep roster is that were already getting cinstant rrepeat matches, Omega v Pac again this week after Pac v Page repeat last week.
The roster needs more depth. Jerichos already been in with Cody, Omega, Paige, Allen and this week Scorpio Sky and were only seven weeks in. By Christmas he'll have wrestled everyone on the roster.
The Christmas Eve AEW Dynamite will see Chris Jericho defend his AEW World Title against John Silver, Sonny Kiss, QT Marshall, and Peter Avalon.
It'll be beaten in the ratings by the USA Network broadcast of The Miz's "Christmas Bounty", which preempts NXT for the night.
Donald
November 25th, 2019, 3:38 PM
The roster needs more depth. Jerichos already been in with Cody, Omega, Paige, Allen and this week Scorpio Sky and were only seven weeks in. By Christmas he'll have wrestled everyone on the roster.
He's old as fuck, probably running the matches while they can.
BGMaverick
November 25th, 2019, 6:43 PM
Its not a format hes excelling at but it has only been seven weeks so plenty time for him to shine.
Id prefer AEW to cut down to one hour a week tbh and be more like how NXT was with different wrestlers each week, that makes them seem nire important when they do turn uo and it cuts out the rubbish oarts when they need filler or have nothing for sone guys to do.
With Omega at some point they will either have to have him go on a winning run through to the title or turn him heel.ut plenty time before that.
One of the problems of not having a deep roster is that were already getting cinstant rrepeat matches, Omega v Pac again this week after Pac v Page repeat last week.
The roster needs more depth. Jerichos already been in with Cody, Omega, Paige, Allen and this week Scorpio Sky and were only seven weeks in. By Christmas he'll have wrestled everyone on the roster.
It's a quandary of sorts. They really need to establish a pool of talent but they need to "play the hits" in order to get viewership. That's one thing NXT clearly has in its favor. They've got talent in spades but it's proven talent. Whether it be on WWE TV in some form or fashion or independent talent, those people already have a following. After a certain level down on the list, AEW doesn't have that at this moment.
Honey_Badger
November 26th, 2019, 11:47 AM
He's old as fuck, probably running the matches while they can.
Exactly.
Jericho is working to put over young talent and help build AEW's next star. There is nothing wrong with his opponents to this date.
Morrison
November 27th, 2019, 9:33 PM
oof. whoever that third guy on commentary for that tag match was, was brutal.
ffs JR. 'freddie mercury never looked so oriential.'
Tainted Eclipse
November 27th, 2019, 9:55 PM
uhhhh .....
ckauffman28
November 27th, 2019, 10:00 PM
oof. whoever that third guy on commentary for that tag match was, was brutal.
ffs JR. 'freddie mercury never looked so oriential.'
Lol he kinda sorta tried to clean it up
Morrison
November 27th, 2019, 10:05 PM
uhhhh .....
why is excalibur screaming like anybody should know who those people were. makes JR sound like a fucking idiot cause excalibur just seems to know everything about these random ass dudes who just show up and a gimmick change for allie. really fucking odd.
Tainted Eclipse
November 27th, 2019, 10:07 PM
cody gets people exciting about what should be the hottest feud in the promotion and then two random nobodies come out and have a very awkward segment. cody's usually smarter than to book something like that.
ckauffman28
November 27th, 2019, 10:24 PM
Braxton Sutter and Andy Williams are who they formally from
Defrost
November 27th, 2019, 10:34 PM
This has not been a good episode
Tainted Eclipse
November 27th, 2019, 10:36 PM
it's relatively weak but still better than any episode of RAW in about five years. gotta have perspective.
Morrison
November 27th, 2019, 10:38 PM
This has not been a good episode
yeah, this has been the weakest episode they've had.
ckauffman28
November 27th, 2019, 10:38 PM
These dark order promos remind me of the purge TV show lol
Spudz Mackenzie
November 27th, 2019, 10:38 PM
Scorpio Sky/Jericho should be damn good, though.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 27th, 2019, 10:42 PM
Scorpio/Jericho is like Ric Flair asking to work with Bobby Eaton or Ricky Morton or Hawk back in the 80’s.
AEW makes old-school booking new again.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 27th, 2019, 10:43 PM
Where’s Justin Roberts?
Morrison
November 27th, 2019, 10:49 PM
Where’s Justin Roberts?
inner circle beat him up in the first segment.
Spudz Mackenzie
November 27th, 2019, 10:57 PM
Fantastic stuff.
BGMaverick
November 29th, 2019, 4:24 AM
I feel like they're rehashing matches from PPVs and that's probably helping with storylines but it's kind of killing the buzz to see the matches again. It's such a slippery slope because you've got to put your top guys on TV a lot to maintain viewership but it feels the slate needs to be freshened up a little more.
How about no more commentators who actually aren't commentators?
Morrison
November 29th, 2019, 5:04 AM
what the hell are you talking about? omega vs pac was a 'rehashed ppv match' from nearly three months ago that had a decent reason for happening. they closed out the pac/page series pretty quick. what else is getting rehashed? they've done an amazing job of not falling into the wwe formula of booking the same match for multiple shows and ppv's in a row and beating it into the ground.
honestly, the biggest reason why i love aew is because it's given me a show that i just take in and enjoy the watching. i feel zero need to jump in a half hour after every show is over and break down what's gonna do good business or how they're gonna maintain viewership. i just wanna be a fan of something and not a fucking third party internet analyst.
BGMaverick
November 29th, 2019, 2:41 PM
what the hell are you talking about? omega vs pac was a 'rehashed ppv match' from nearly three months ago that had a decent reason for happening. they closed out the pac/page series pretty quick. what else is getting rehashed? they've done an amazing job of not falling into the wwe formula of booking the same match for multiple shows and ppv's in a row and beating it into the ground.
honestly, the biggest reason why i love aew is because it's given me a show that i just take in and enjoy the watching. i feel zero need to jump in a half hour after every show is over and break down what's gonna do good business or how they're gonna maintain viewership. i just wanna be a fan of something and not a fucking third party internet analyst.
Those instances resulted in 50/50 booking, I believe, so that feels like a waste.
You’re more than allowed to observe and enjoy the show as you’d like. More power to you. Alluding to a critique of how I watch it seems silly.
Donald
November 29th, 2019, 3:45 PM
If you took the internet out of anything, you're most likely going to enjoy it much more. Most internet analysis tend to be negative, from my experience. Something can be so good, but there will always be those who will say it sucks. Just ruins the experience. Time to pull the plug.
Morrison
November 29th, 2019, 3:54 PM
Those instances resulted in 50/50 booking, I believe, so that feels like a waste.
You’re more than allowed to observe and enjoy the show as you’d like. More power to you. Alluding to a critique of how I watch it seems silly.
pac and omega have faced 2 times in three months and traded wins. pac has won his feud with page 2-1. you're reaching.
this isn't a wwe show that has a decade of bad faith booking and decision making behind it, yet people can't wait to jump in and break shit down using the same framework that gets used for wwe. i dont think you have actually made a case for this rehashing matches thing or the possibility of 50/50 booking, but i want to say that 50/50 booking isnt inherently an awful thing. it's a viable strategy for building feuds and stories. wwe has just abused the fuck out of it and put no effort or care behind why it happens. it sounds like you're making a judgement on something aew has done once, based off of the fallout of thousands of times wwe has done it, when they're completely separate things.
BGMaverick
November 29th, 2019, 4:17 PM
Fair enough.
also, to be clear, I’m sure I could easily name more than a handful of things across the show that I found very entertaining or productive.
Peter Griffin
November 29th, 2019, 4:37 PM
Gonna watch this on my lapto shortly as still not up on ITV hub on Sky, Did you see if they ever see their explanation as to why they are always late on their 7pm slot Murphy ?
They did say they would offer one :lol:
Sasori
November 29th, 2019, 4:44 PM
Really enjoyed Omega v Pac II. They seemed more comfortable with each other in the ring than their first outing.
The mystery men attacking Cody was a head scratcher. And was this supposed to be a heel turn for Allie? I don't remember whether she was a face or not up to this point.
Overall, it feels like AEW has a solid hour of tv every week while the other hour is hit or miss. I'm not complaining since it's early days and I'm just happy to have some more wrestling to watch.
Peter Griffin
November 29th, 2019, 5:06 PM
Ted Irvine #1 heel.
Morrison
November 29th, 2019, 5:12 PM
Fair enough.
also, to be clear, I’m sure I could easily name more than a handful of things across the show that I found very entertaining or productive.
i don't doubt it. i just wonder why, after all the years spent pulling hair out because of wwe's nonsense, and breaking down booking on a weekly basis to display and explain why it's so nonsensical, anybody is drumming up the desire to start that whole process over again, for a world that hasn't necessarily shown they deserve it yet. i thought we were tired of having to do that?
i obviously know the internet isn't really like that and people enjoy the bitching and complaining just as much, if not more, than the actual great wrestling content that is available, but it baffles me just the same. i'm just so thrilled to have a weekly wrestling program that i look forward to watching live and doesn't really fit a formula yet, cause it's still so new, and the concepts they use and executions they employ haven't been worn out yet. like with pac and omega. pac was a surprise replacement for all out, and continued the kenny losing big matches, isn't quite the same kenny omega we know storyline. kenny loses a huge match to moxley, is out of commission for a couple weeks and pinpoints the start of his troubles as the loss to pac a few months ago, and so calls pac out to right that wrong, and does. yeah, they've traded wins, but aew has shown they will promote rubber matches as big deals, because of how they handled pac/page, so i know i got the blow-off coming at some point. and beyond that, kenny gave logical motivation, in a promo on the weekly tv, as to why the match is happening, and thus giving an emotional and narrative impact to whatever outcome happens. kenny loses again, and we feel sad cause this dude is crumbling in front of our eyes and can't get any traction. kenny wins and we feel happy, we feel that maybe he's turned a corner, he avenged a big loss and has maybe got himself back on track. compare this to fucking baron corbin and chad gable having matches with each other on a near weekly basis for 6 weeks for no real reason. i enjoy the breathing room that aew has provided from some of the ridiculous shit wwe gets stuck in, an am thankful for it. last thing i want to do right now is start trying to look at this through the same wwe-stained glasses.
Sinner
November 29th, 2019, 5:13 PM
What was so confusing and head scratching about The Butcher and The Blade attacking the EVP of a wrestling company?
Why weren't they hired intially? What do they have to do to get noticed.
Oh..
Morrison
November 29th, 2019, 5:19 PM
What was so confusing and head scratching about The Butcher and The Blade attacking the EVP of a wrestling company?
Why weren't they hired intially? What do they have to do to get noticed.
Oh..
that's a real nice way to look at it, but i'm also not a huge fan of filling in those kinds of gaps for the writers. it's still super early, so they have a chance to explain it in the next couple of weeks, but there's ways to execute that line of logic that doesn't get those guys a silent reaction and no real heat.
Peter Griffin
November 29th, 2019, 6:25 PM
Really enjoyed Omega v Pac II. They seemed more comfortable with each other in the ring than their first outing.
The mystery men attacking Cody was a head scratcher. And was this supposed to be a heel turn for Allie? I don't remember whether she was a face or not up to this point.
Overall, it feels like AEW has a solid hour of tv every week while the other hour is hit or miss. I'm not complaining since it's early days and I'm just happy to have some more wrestling to watch.
She wasn't doing much tbf but yes she was a face, One of those guys is her husband btw.
Matthew
November 29th, 2019, 7:00 PM
the other guy (the butcher) is the guitarist for Every Time I Die and is a regular indy wrestler around my parts. knew him for awhile in the band's earlier days. crazy this is happening. if their christmas concert/wrestling gig has some aew involvement, i'm in.
Murphy
November 30th, 2019, 9:12 AM
Gonna watch this on my lapto shortly as still not up on ITV hub on Sky, Did you see if they ever see their explanation as to why they are always late on their 7pm slot Murphy ?
They did say they would offer one :lol:
I’ve stopped looking, buddy. I’ve only seen half of this week’s so far. Must get to it. ITV Hub is bloody atrocious though, I will say that again.
Matthew
November 30th, 2019, 9:48 AM
do you guys need a stream
Peter Griffin
November 30th, 2019, 10:05 AM
Nah, I mean I can wait until Friday its just when a press release says Thursday at 7pm and they have been nowhere near that yet and say there is a reason but wont divulge :lol:
Murphy
November 30th, 2019, 1:29 PM
do you guys need a stream
Cheers for that, man.
Matthew
November 30th, 2019, 1:51 PM
anytime. that's just a small reason why i was voted all time nicest poster on here
Nash Diesel
December 2nd, 2019, 3:52 PM
I definitely get the pitfalls of watching AEW with WWE logic. We had this discussion when some were confused about what constitutes a DQ because 99% of the people watching AEW watch WWE and think WWE=everything wrestling should go by.
BGMaverick
December 2nd, 2019, 5:41 PM
Week one: 1,409,000 viewers
Week two: 1,018,000 viewers (plus 122,000 on TruTV)
Week three: 1,014,000 viewers
Week four: 963,000 viewers
Week five: 759,000 viewers
Week six: 822,000 viewers
Week seven: 957,000 viewers
Week eight: 893,000 (first week to lose to NXT)
Week nine: 663,000 viewers (NXT higher)
Donald
December 2nd, 2019, 7:22 PM
Hopefully they can bounce back.
Honey_Badger
December 3rd, 2019, 12:05 PM
Thanksgiving probably had a lot to do with the lower ratings. I'd imagine they bounce back into the 750,000 - 820,000 range in week ten, and probably stay there for a bit.
Donald
December 3rd, 2019, 1:39 PM
Thanksgiving probably had a lot to do with the lower ratings. I'd imagine they bounce back into the 750,000 - 820,000 range in week ten, and probably stay there for a bit.
That may be true, but why didn't NXT fall as far? Post Survivor Series ratings?
Nash Diesel
December 3rd, 2019, 2:00 PM
That may be true, but why didn't NXT fall as far? Post Survivor Series ratings?
:yes:
If the NXT ratings drop 2-300,000 then we can probably assume the appeal of the tri-brand crossovers really helped ratings for all 3 shows, especially NXT. I would bet people definitely tuned in to see the fallout.
And for all we know the rating is even higher unless they factor in the Network viewership because I'm going to bet that a lot of people didn't watch NXT live on USA and waited until the next day. So they might have broke a million viewers.
NWo4LifeOr2Years
December 3rd, 2019, 3:14 PM
They'll be begging for jobs from Trip H at this time next year.
Here's hoping some holiday cheer goes far....
mr sabu
December 3rd, 2019, 11:32 PM
https://www.clippituser.tv/c/qkwyvg
wonder whose idea this commerical was
Psycho666Soldier
December 4th, 2019, 1:04 PM
Don't remember if I mentioned it in here, but I'm going to Dynamite tonight. I'm looking forward to it. Trent/Fenix is damn near like a dream match to me.
The seats I have are technically nosebleeds, but the State Farm Arena is fairly small, so there's not really a bad seat.
Donald
December 4th, 2019, 2:00 PM
Have a wonderful time!
Tainted Eclipse
December 4th, 2019, 9:05 PM
is anyone elses audio comically fucked up?
Tainted Eclipse
December 4th, 2019, 9:18 PM
that match was incredible. there's nothing better in wrestling than a dustin career resurgence.
Spudz Mackenzie
December 4th, 2019, 9:18 PM
Getting hyped for some AEW... https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1154465197312106497/z8GD0Lw3_400x400.jpg
Spudz Mackenzie
December 4th, 2019, 9:20 PM
Fun six-man tag. Gotta love Dustin Rhodes being able to have some fun in his twilight wrestling years without doing anything silly or embarrassing himself.
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Trent? needs to ditch the invisible hand grenade fucktard and go solo. He'd be a great singles prospect without that idiot Chuck Taylor weighing him down.
They’ve got Pentagon/Daniels booked for this show, but this is the match that JR says “could be the best singles match of the night”? Sure, Boomer (sooner).
Spudz Mackenzie
December 4th, 2019, 9:40 PM
Cody is the shoot boss of this company. He can make MJF wrestle him anytime he wants.
Tainted Eclipse
December 4th, 2019, 9:42 PM
lol he's imitating the classic ric flair promo. love it.
Spudz Mackenzie
December 4th, 2019, 9:43 PM
Can we get MJF out here before Cody strips down to his $500 underpants.
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Kid’s a plant. What kind of 8-year old wears a little suit and tie to a wrestling show?
Tainted Eclipse
December 4th, 2019, 9:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_3jW_0jnzc
Spudz Mackenzie
December 4th, 2019, 9:54 PM
Blue Pants Bitch has been sent out to die.
File her away. They’re going to need a new Dewey Decimal System to find all her pages.
VHS
December 4th, 2019, 9:56 PM
Rose can't even make a power bomb look powerful.
Spudz Mackenzie
December 4th, 2019, 9:56 PM
This insta-feud bullshit they’re doing with Nyla and Shanna could, and probably should, be a proper Nyla/Britt Baker feud.
Spudz Mackenzie
December 4th, 2019, 10:04 PM
Jericho challenges El Dandy.
Because who are you to doubt El Dandy?
Spudz Mackenzie
December 4th, 2019, 10:06 PM
This is just a Chris Jericho’s greatest hits promo.
The List Of Jericho meets Jericho’s List Of 1,001 Holds.
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“Little children”.
Jim Cornette just popped.
Spudz Mackenzie
December 4th, 2019, 10:08 PM
Beverly Hills 9021Y2J.
Spudz Mackenzie
December 4th, 2019, 10:12 PM
Kris Statlander the alien...?
The fuck is this shit?
VHS
December 4th, 2019, 10:14 PM
Alien gimmick?
k
Spudz Mackenzie
December 4th, 2019, 10:16 PM
Alien gimmick?
k
Not that I didn’t understand it. It’s just really stupid.
Spudz Mackenzie
December 4th, 2019, 10:19 PM
Heh, Butcher And The Blade picking a real jobber for Cody’s partner next week.
I’ve seen B&B work in person. They’re going to surprise some people.
Beer-Belly
December 4th, 2019, 10:20 PM
She's not actually an alien.
Spudz Mackenzie
December 4th, 2019, 10:25 PM
She's not actually an alien.
No shit?
Next you’re going to tell me that Orange Cassidy isn’t a total waste of human skin, bone, and oxygen.
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Who’s the plant?
VHS
December 4th, 2019, 10:26 PM
The Nightmare Collective...
http://fat.gfycat.com/FocusedPoliticalEidolonhelvum.gif
Beer-Belly
December 4th, 2019, 10:27 PM
Imagine wasting time on a TV show that you hate.
Morrison
December 4th, 2019, 10:29 PM
Imagine wasting time on a TV show that you hate.
considering the shit that vhs chooses to put his creative energy behind on this forum, he has zero room to critique a god damn thing. ever.
Psycho666Soldier
December 4th, 2019, 10:29 PM
Just gonna say that Nightmare Collective shit was really weird live. Took a lot of air out of the crowd for a minute. Not sure it made it to TV, but there was a, "What just happened?" afterward.
VHS
December 4th, 2019, 10:30 PM
considering the shit that vhs chooses to put his creative energy behind on this forum, he has zero room to critique a god damn thing. ever.
Ahh, there you are. :heart:
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