All Elite Wrestling

[Tainted Eclipse]

I hate the idea of a brand split in theory but honestly, Tony can NOT keep track of the size of his roster and book a weekly show in a way where tons of high potential guys don’t go missing for months at a time and lose their momentum. It might not be the worst idea.

[BGMaverick]

It's not a bad idea if you actually adhere to it. That's generally been WWE's problem, that they just drop it and then it cheapens everything about the anticipation of a draft.

[Donald]

Let the Hardy Brothers have a farewell tag team match, against FTR at Wembley.

[Nash Diesel]

Dude I doubt Jeff is even allowed to leave the US. But it's Tony Khan and he'll gladly ship Jeff in a crate with a bag full of crack if it means Jeff Hardy on his tv.

I love Jeff Hardy, the Hardyz are one of the best, but I also loved Scott Hall and Taylor Hawkins.

[Donald]

Maybe he'll hire someone to play a look alike Jeff Hardy, sort of like the Renegade in WCW. I doubt AEW fans would know the difference, they're not too smart. They watch AEW after all.

Just joking, I love you AEW fans.

[Nash Diesel]

RIP Renegade. Everyone blames Arn, and guess where Arn works?

[Donald]

RIP Renegade. Everyone blames Arn, and guess where Arn works?

He'd fit right in with those scissoring guys.

[Nash Diesel]

He'd fit right in with those scissoring guys.

Don't get me wrong, I dig Billy Gunn being in the mix he kind of fits as he was always kind of a metrosexual type after turning into Billy Bad Ass, then Chuck, I mean all The Acclaimed are is a woke version of The Beautiful People and Cute Kip.

Arn should come out and scissor just one time. And then the lights go out and when they come back on it's Psycho Sid!

[Donald]

That would get me watching AEW.

As long as he fist bumps everyone in the arena, I'm down for it.

[Defrost]

So the newest update is there is a meeting scheduled between TK, Punk, Jericho, and FTR with the idea that Punk's first feud back will be with Jericho.

[Donald]

Maybe jericho will slip on alcohol again

[Peter Griffin]

So the newest update is there is a meeting scheduled between TK, Punk, Jericho, and FTR with the idea that Punk's first feud back will be with Jericho.

I can barely contain myself.

[Tainted Eclipse]

So the newest update is there is a meeting scheduled between TK, Punk, Jericho, and FTR with the idea that Punk's first feud back will be with Jericho.

blah. very underwhelming for a punk return.

[Badger]

blah. very underwhelming for a punk return.

Agreed. Their feud over alcohol WWE was pure dumpster fire so have absolutely no desire for them to hook up ever again especially with them both being heels.

IF (and a big if) they work things out with Punk and they wanted him heel, I’d love a feud with Darby Allin or by extension Sting.

[Badger]

Also this “four pillars” storyline. Where do you all see this going? A fatal four-way where they are all tied in the rankings? Individual title shots if they are all tied?

I could see a Khan thing to do if Darby eventually gets the title shot and Sting despite his words saying it’s Darby’s showtime ends up costing him.

[Tainted Eclipse]

sammy feeling SO much lower ranked than the other three at this point kind of hurts the whole concept of a four pillars story. honestly even jungle boy feels a little out of his depth in a main event program compared to MJF and darby.

during the MFJ/darby/sting segment last week i kinda liked the idea of thinking of a story that would make a triple threat title match between them make sense.

[Badger]

sammy feeling SO much lower ranked than the other three at this point kind of hurts the whole concept of a four pillars story. honestly even jungle boy feels a little out of his depth in a main event program compared to MJF and darby.

during the MFJ/darby/sting segment last week i kinda liked the idea of thinking of a story that would make a triple threat title match between them make sense.

Agreed on that. Sammy still as a face gaining heat within the Inner Circle then challenging a world champ MJF I could maybe see it but as a heel it’s harder. Jungle Boy beyond Lucha and Christian because of that still feels rushed. Also skeptical Christian/Lucha might come back to revive that feud. Darby with or without Sting is by far the most natural contender especially given the past history with him and MJF.

[Defrost]

Also this “four pillars” storyline. Where do you all see this going? A fatal four-way where they are all tied in the rankings? Individual title shots if they are all tied?

I could see a Khan thing to do if Darby eventually gets the title shot and Sting despite his words saying it’s Darby’s showtime ends up costing him.

Yeah I figure the main event of the next PPV is a 4 way and the underneath match is Anarchy in the Arena between The Elite and BCC.

[Badger]

Yeah I figure the main event of the next PPV is a 4 way and the underneath match is Anarchy in the Arena between The Elite and BCC.

Yeah Elite/Hangman vs full BCC with Bryan has to be the way to go there.

If they do a Fatal 4 Way, I’d say Sammy or Jungle Boy eats the pin to leave a MJF/Darby singles match next PPV.

[Defrost]

Yeah Elite/Hangman vs full BCC with Bryan has to be the way to go there.

If they do a Fatal 4 Way, I’d say Sammy or Jungle Boy eats the pin to leave a MJF/Darby singles match next PPV.

Well the next PPV after that is Forbidden Door so judging by how last year's card was put together I doubt there will be any straight NJPW vs NJPW or AEW vs AEW matches on that show.

After that is Wembley Stadium and as much as I love Darby I'm not sure about that being the World Title match there.

[Badger]

Well the next PPV after that is Forbidden Door so judging by how last year's card was put together I doubt there will be any straight NJPW vs NJPW or AEW vs AEW matches on that show.

After that is Wembley Stadium and as much as I love Darby I'm not sure about that being the World Title match there.

I’m getting tickets to the Wembley show so I’m very curious as to what they do with the title match. I do agree MJF/Darby doesn’t seem quite big enough for that. If Bryan didn’t turn heel, I would’ve said a rematch there. Maybe Omega/MJF if he gets out the BCC feud by then. Long-shot scenario, MJF/Sting? There is Punk but not sure if he’ll be back in the fold/Khan booking that for their show after last time?

[Defrost]

FTR Bald is pushing for FTR and Punk vs Omega and the Bucks at Wembley, but a lot of people think that's just Punk's side trying to turn the Elite into heels in the public's eyes since every indication is The Elite guys want to have nothing to do with Punk.

Since Will Ospreay is English a lot of people are saying to do the Omega rematch there, but the way NJPW is booking it Omega vs Ospreay 2 is very obviously going to be the Forbidden Door main event whether it goes last or not. I sorta cannot imagine the US Title going on after a World Title even though it will be the bigger match.

[Fanny Batter]

It should be Punk vs. Omega at Wembley. That's their money shot. I'm not entirely convinced everything's that happened isn't a work. Meltzer is an AEW shill and would go along with it, and as he's the premier journalist in the industry everybody else has towed the line. Even if it isn't, it was all a load of handbags and they're all idiots if they don't work together. Omega and the Bucks are happy to work with guys with questionable backgrounds, but aren't with a guy because he got hot one time and had a scrap with them? Come on. These are adults. Get on with it.

Omega vs. Punk
MJF vs. Hangman for the World title
Ospreay vs. Moxley for the IWGP US Title
FTR vs. Young Bucks 3 for the tag titles
Jericho vs. Sting - Career vs. Career
Hayter vs. Cargill for the Women's titles
ZSJ vs. Danielson
Claudio vs. PAC for the ROH Title
OC vs. Jungle Boy vs. Guevara for AA Title

I think they'd do good business with that card. Sting's last match, Hangman finally getting his shot back at the title, the Omega/Punk bloodfeud, the tag blowoff, the biggest women's match in company history, a couple of dream matches, and the British world title challenge for PAC.

[Tainted Eclipse]

totally agree. top stars of a promotion who happen to also be the vice presidents of the company not wanting to work the program that is going to BY FAR generate more interest and business than anything else AEW could possibly do just sucks.

[Defrost]

I wonder if they do MJF vs Adam Cole at Wembley.


In terms of outsiders I would expect Vikingo at Wembley. Not sure about New Japan guys just because of Forbidden Door happening so soon before it.

Other than we basically knowing Omega is defending the US title against Ospreay at Forbidden Door because of the mini tournament New Japan is running right now there is a lot in flux of who will be doing what for New Japan going into that show. Like I expect the big title matches at Dominion a few weeks earlier to be SANADA defending the World Title against Naito, and Aussie Open defending both the IWGP and STRONG tag titles against the Dream Team. Naito I fully expect to win. The tag titles could go either way. That effect Forbidden Door booking.

[Nash Diesel]

It should be Punk vs. Omega at Wembley. That's their money shot. I'm not entirely convinced everything's that happened isn't a work. Meltzer is an AEW shill and would go along with it, and as he's the premier journalist in the industry everybody else has towed the line. Even if it isn't, it was all a load of handbags and they're all idiots if they don't work together. Omega and the Bucks are happy to work with guys with questionable backgrounds, but aren't with a guy because he got hot one time and had a scrap with them? Come on. These are adults. Get on with it.

Omega vs. Punk
MJF vs. Hangman for the World title
Ospreay vs. Moxley for the IWGP US Title
FTR vs. Young Bucks 3 for the tag titles
Jericho vs. Sting - Career vs. Career
Hayter vs. Cargill for the Women's titles
ZSJ vs. Danielson
Claudio vs. PAC for the ROH Title
OC vs. Jungle Boy vs. Guevara for AA Title

I think they'd do good business with that card. Sting's last match, Hangman finally getting his shot back at the title, the Omega/Punk bloodfeud, the tag blowoff, the biggest women's match in company history, a couple of dream matches, and the British world title challenge for PAC.

That's a really really good card. I don't like the World title match at all but in the AEW bubble you gotta deal with it.

[Morrison]

i like how punk/omega gets pushed, as it's obviously THEE singles match to do, even though from most reports on this whole thing, omega had the least heat from the punk side.

i really wouldn't mind seeing ospreay/omega 2 at forbidden door, with will coming up short, play into his injury and the mini-tourny to get the contendership spot, with the rubber match happening at wembley with will finally getting the win, mere weeks after winning the g1 climax. ya carry that momentum straight on through to the dome show in january.

[Badger]

It should be Punk vs. Omega at Wembley. That's their money shot. I'm not entirely convinced everything's that happened isn't a work. Meltzer is an AEW shill and would go along with it, and as he's the premier journalist in the industry everybody else has towed the line. Even if it isn't, it was all a load of handbags and they're all idiots if they don't work together. Omega and the Bucks are happy to work with guys with questionable backgrounds, but aren't with a guy because he got hot one time and had a scrap with them? Come on. These are adults. Get on with it.

Omega vs. Punk
MJF vs. Hangman for the World title
Ospreay vs. Moxley for the IWGP US Title
FTR vs. Young Bucks 3 for the tag titles
Jericho vs. Sting - Career vs. Career
Hayter vs. Cargill for the Women's titles
ZSJ vs. Danielson
Claudio vs. PAC for the ROH Title
OC vs. Jungle Boy vs. Guevara for AA Title

I think they'd do good business with that card. Sting's last match, Hangman finally getting his shot back at the title, the Omega/Punk bloodfeud, the tag blowoff, the biggest women's match in company history, a couple of dream matches, and the British world title challenge for PAC.

Please let this be the Wembley show!

[Romford Pele]

Punk v Bryan should be the Wembley show main event. I'm going to the show, it's by far the biggest match they could do, with easily their two biggest stars.

[Romford Pele]

Reading the Observer and I shit you not the plan is to have a quasi brand split between Dynamite and the new Saturday show and the rosters will be place internally by how much the wrestlers hate or like CM Punk in real life.

Lol why doesn't Tony Khan just grow a pair instead

[Peter Griffin]

IF this has been a work this whole time, It is the stupidest work in history that has made everyone look like shit.

[Nash Diesel]

Unless it's a real fight I don't have any real interest in seeing Punk/FTR v. The Elite.

[Romford Pele]

Was really interesting to hear Eric Bischoff say on his podcast that Tony should run Wembley show without Pink and pay him off.

No way he will do that though

[Nash Diesel]

I've said this from the start but I feel like I'm more angry with Punk for making me give props to The Elite for having the sack to confront him.

The fact that anyone thinks TK should just buyout Punk's contract and send him packing is beyond me. AEW already with some WCW shit. CM Punk comes in, already more over and a bigger deal/name than anyone in AEW by a mile. Nobody not even Sting came in with the hype and nobody has really delivered consistently. Even when we were wondering what the fuck he was doing wrestling Lee Moriarty types, it was still must-see i.e. Is Punk finally going to fuck with some top guys or is it more "working my way to the top!" shit.

Bischoff saying that is mindblowing. But I also respect that he knows that AEW is probably going to sell at least 50,000 as they're already up to what, 40k with pre-sales? Not sure how that all works but sounds like 40,000 fans will at least be there. That would be plenty.

[Donald]

. Nobody not even Sting came in with the hype and nobody has really delivered consistently. .

Jake Hager debuted to the biggest pop AEW had seen up to that point.

[Romford Pele]

I've said this from the start but I feel like I'm more angry with Punk for making me give props to The Elite for having the sack to confront him.

The fact that anyone thinks TK should just buyout Punk's contract and send him packing is beyond me. AEW already with some WCW shit. CM Punk comes in, already more over and a bigger deal/name than anyone in AEW by a mile. Nobody not even Sting came in with the hype and nobody has really delivered consistently. Even when we were wondering what the fuck he was doing wrestling Lee Moriarty types, it was still must-see i.e. Is Punk finally going to fuck with some top guys or is it more "working my way to the top!" shit.

Bischoff saying that is mindblowing. But I also respect that he knows that AEW is probably going to sell at least 50,000 as they're already up to what, 40k with pre-sales? Not sure how that all works but sounds like 40,000 fans will at least be there. That would be plenty.

It's an 80k stadium, probably more when you then put down floor seats. But 40k people aren't buying 1 ticket, so they might be close

[Defrost]

It's an 80k stadium, probably more when you then put down floor seats. But 40k people aren't buying 1 ticket, so they might be close

We don't know how large a stage is being used or how many seats will be taken out as production kills though.

[Nash Diesel]

It's an 80k stadium, probably more when you then put down floor seats. But 40k people aren't buying 1 ticket, so they might be close

I know Foo Fighters have done 80-85k so yeah it's a tall task but still...Even if they don't draw 80,000 fans the way they set up the event it might not look odd.

[Defrost]

I know Foo Fighters have done 80-85k so yeah it's a tall task but still...Even if they don't draw 80,000 fans the way they set up the event it might not look odd.

Part of the thing is financially a wrestling show drawing 25,000 is a massive success no matter the size of the building. Last year's Summerslam looked great and was a massive success and the building was half empty.

[Nash Diesel]

Part of the thing is financially a wrestling show drawing 25,000 is a massive success no matter the size of the building. Last year's Summerslam looked great and was a massive success and the building was half empty.

I agree. Especially overseas markets that are HUGE wrestling fans that don't get too many big shows as it is.

[Donald]

If a mediocre rock band like foo fighters can sell out wembley, then a mediocre wrestling company like aew should have no problem

[Nash Diesel]

If a mediocre rock band like foo fighters can sell out wembley, then a mediocre wrestling company like aew should have no problem

You son of a bitch

[Donald]

I haven't liked anything from Times Like These and after.

[Badger]

Not a devoted fan myself but they’re alright. Liked some of their songs like Monkey Wrench, BreakOut and Learn to Fly

[Donald]

They're better than Tool but not as good as 3 Doors Down

[Badger]

They're better than Tool but not as good as 3 Doors Down

Agree although that time Maynard subduing a fan who ran onto try and hug him and not skipping a single beat with the song was awesome.

[Romford Pele]

I agree. Especially overseas markets that are HUGE wrestling fans that don't get too many big shows as it is.

Kinda hard to overstate the impact Summerslam 92 had here. I was at primary school at the time and managed to attend, just incredible. Bret v Bulldog was incredible, my fave ever

[Donald]

wwe did summerslam 92, not impact

[Nash Diesel]

I haven't liked anything from Times Like These and after.

I'll be honest man if you liked stuff BEFORE that song you still have IMO 3 of their 4 best albums. The first 3 Foo albums are incredible.


Kinda hard to overstate the impact Summerslam 92 had here. I was at primary school at the time and managed to attend, just incredible. Bret v Bulldog was incredible, my fave ever

I remember watching it here and it wasn't live but THANK GOD there wasn't anyway to spoil it for us. It was the only time my best friend and I got to watch a ppv with his oldest brother Greg who was about 15 years older and a HUGE Bret fan. Only he hated good guy Bret, he would also talk about Hart Foundation and how he first saw them live and they wore blue not pink. But he was 100% behind Bret during that match, as we all were. Except one dude, his boy Javi was pro-Davey Boy. Why? He was a British Bulldogs mark. So you had Greg and Javi, best friends, but also their favorite tag-teams were rivals and now 2 of them main eventing.

Anyway that's my story lol.


wwe did summerslam 92, not impact

Love you brother lol

[Nash Diesel]

I won't lie, I was a little erect watching Cole and Baker get the shit beat out of them and Cole cuffed, crying for his woman. This reminded me of watching Randy Orton take out the McMahons. Like all the sudden Stephanie was a babyface and nothing she did mattered.

Britt Baker and Adam Cole scream heels. But now that we're seeing the WWE's idea of Cole managing Keith Lee come to fruition I can't wait to see how this awesome story unfolds. What we need is to have Cole beat MJF so we can get Cole/Keith Lee defending the World title against Jericho and Daddy Magic, whoever gets the pin=champion.

[Mazer]

Assuming Daddy Magic wins in that scenario

[Nash Diesel]

It's the shot in the arm the industry needs. I thought it was John Morrison in the new Punch Out movie he's filming but nope, stick to the pizzeria Johnny Blaze.

[Murphy]

Loved Dynamite this week, apart from that Cole/Baker stuff. Just don't work for me as faces, though I'm sure it's short-term, as Britt and Hayter I assume is where they'll go for Wembley.

Fun matches, good promos, on the and whole, and some development.

I'll likely go to All In.

[Donald]

Well you can't have a heel introduce new shows and venues for events, so it makes sense they made Adam Cole face.

[Mazer]

As much as some of you yahoos hate it....Adam Cole (BA-BAY) moves the merch.

[Nash Diesel]

As much as some of you yahoos hate it....Adam Cole (BA-BAY) moves the merch.

How much? I'm honestly curious because saying he moves merch means what exactly? My best friend's band moves merch, I don't see them headlining any festivals lol.

[Mazer]

How much? I'm honestly curious because saying he moves merch means what exactly? My best friend's band moves merch, I don't see them headlining any festivals lol.

In fairness, I'm being subjective. I saw him and UE on the WWE top sellers lists. And the shows I went to back then....there was a lot of Adam Cole and UE. Going to AEW shows when he was active, I saw the gear. Both companies produced a solid amount for him.

I'm not saying he's spring 2022 HOOK tm .


But all the eye test i've seen had him in the upper group.




And this is certainly separate....but I've never been to show where he wasn't in the top group of crowd engagement.



So, specifically......an 8.3 on the Mazer Scale of Merch Movement.

[Donald]

Hook sucks

[Donald]

The movie, not the wrestler.

[mth]

Except Rufio. There will be no Rufio slander.

[Donald]

I'd agree with you but he made the decision to star in Hook so he can't be that intelligent

[Mazer]

He didn't make the decision to star in Hook. He just allowed some people to act silly around him while he went through his normal day to day.

[Nash Diesel]

The movie is the shit except for the son. He was a douche in that movie and a douche in Dick Tracy. He grew up to be that weird nerd in Can't Hardly Wait (thanks IMDB) and now I think he's a scientist.

[Nash Diesel]

I'm actually shocked Tony Khan hasn't tried to bring in Rufio and the rest of the Lost Boys. They could team up and battle Captain Insane-O in a 9 on 1 handicap match.

Maybe that's Tony's big announcement he has planned for Wednesday.............again...........What's better? Tony's announcements or the weekly Raw GM swap?

[NeseToTheFace]

I enjoy Tony's social-media announced surprises incoming as much as I did the Raw General Manager incidents. It's "okay, here we fucking go again". Not that they've all been duds, but it's a lot of hype to constantly deliver to the point that it's overused and underwhelming.

[Badger]

At least Wembley was a great announcement but yeah they’re disappointing most of the time.

Also missing the boat on having Hook as Hook in the remake lol.

[Donald]

Tony should spend millions to have Hook come out to Hook by Blues Traveler.

No one likes Action Reed, but we all love Blues Traveler.

[Nash Diesel]

Speaking of tennis, here is the seating chart for AEW in Wembley. It doesn't look like they're aiming to sell 90,000 tickets but I'm not negative to it. Curious how the stage will look.

https://i.redd.it/aew-wembley-stadium-seating-chart-v0-dlwsksoqxeva1.jpg?e1698ae7
https://preview.redd.it/aew-wembley-stadium-seating-chart-v0-dlwsksoqxeva1.jpg?auto=webp&v=enabled&294b16cb
https://preview.redd.it/aew-all-in-wembley-stadium-seating-chart-received-from-v0-zwcoqxsociva1.png?width=1336&format=png&auto=webp&7b29786e
https://preview.redd.it/aew-wembley-stadium-seating-chart-v0-31l01hsbxtva1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&6f0ecb56
https://preview.redd.it/aew-wembley-stadium-seating-chart-v0-31l01hsbxtva1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&6f0ecb56

[Nash Diesel]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FuVAqQNXwAIJmss?format=jpg&name=large

[VHS]

Could you have found a bigger, lower res image than that? :lol:

[Nash Diesel]

Could you have found a bigger, lower res image than that? :lol:

lol. The others I was trying to post here wouldn't show up so that was like the 5th image that finally showed up.

You going? I'll be there in row 5.

[VHS]

lol. The others I was trying to post here wouldn't show up so that was like the 5th image that finally showed up.

You going? I'll be there in row 5.

I wish. I’ll be at Double or Nothing in Vegas and the following Dynamite in San Diego. Anybody plan on being at any of those?

[Peter Griffin]

lol. The others I was trying to post here wouldn't show up so that was like the 5th image that finally showed up.

You going? I'll be there in row 5.

You are going to Wembley?

[Murphy]

I'll probably be at Wembley. See how the ticket sales go this time. For Clash at Cardiff, paid decent money for what turned out to be nosebleeds and much better tickets were available cheaper in the days before the event. Loads of people's seats were upgraded beforehand too, not mine.

Will keep an eye on how it's selling etc.


You are going to Wembley?

Seeing as tickets aren't on sale yet, as far as I'm aware, I assume ND is joking. Could be wrong though. :chin:

[Donald]

You're actually going to go to a show to keep this sarcasm alive?

[Peter Griffin]

Well I'm going assuming they don't sell out in a few days will purchase mid May.

[Donald]

I thought you were my pro wwe buddy

[Badger]

I'll probably be at Wembley. See how the ticket sales go this time. For Clash at Cardiff, paid decent money for what turned out to be nosebleeds and much better tickets were available cheaper in the days before the event. Loads of people's seats were upgraded beforehand too, not mine.

Will keep an eye on how it's selling etc.



Seeing as tickets aren't on sale yet, as far as I'm aware, I assume ND is joking. Could be wrong though. :chin:

I’ll be heading assuming I can get tickets on time (unfortunately working the day they go on sale so might have to try during break times). If I fail on the day, hopefully pick up a re-sale on a later date.

What are the best pubs round Wembley area?

[Donald]

What time do they go on sale Badger. I will buy the tickets for you if I'm not working at that time.

[Badger]

Friday 5th May but I’ll manage something lol.

I have gone for the pre-sale offer so might get something early if I remember to check my emails.

[Donald]

If they book Big Cass vs. Satnav Singh, I'll buy a ticket and come.

[Nash Diesel]

I thought you were my pro wwe buddy

Half the card will be WWE talent.

[MTR]

We are going to hear from Tony Khan tomorrow as he hands the mic over to Adam Cole to do the actual announcement....

[Badger]

We are going to hear from Tony Khan tomorrow as he hands the mic over to Adam Cole to do the actual announcement....

That’s Coled.

[Peter Griffin]

I thought you were my pro wwe buddy

I'm pro wrestling pal.

[Donald]

And I'm pro sports entertainment

[Murphy]

I’ll be heading assuming I can get tickets on time (unfortunately working the day they go on sale so might have to try during break times). If I fail on the day, hopefully pick up a re-sale on a later date.

What are the best pubs round Wembley area?

I've signed up for the pre-sale. But no plan on getting tickets early. Will just see what happens.

As to pubs, I wish I knew! And I'll be there with my 11 year-old, so. Might sneak a beer in somewhere!

[Badger]

I've signed up for the pre-sale. But no plan on getting tickets early. Will just see what happens.

As to pubs, I wish I knew! And I'll be there with my 11 year-old, so. Might sneak a beer in somewhere!

Don’t worry about it. Just wondered if you knew/been drinking around there prior.

I’ll research.

[Tainted Eclipse]

FURIOUS that the colored ropes are gone

[mth]

Glad to hear Roderick Strong's in AEW now. I was worried I was going to have to see him back in WWE.

[Murphy]

Glad to hear Roderick Strong's in AEW now. I was worried I was going to have to see him back in WWE.

:lol:

I've loved Roddy's work in the ring since 2006, but my gosh is he dull.

[Nash Diesel]

Glad to hear Roderick Strong's in AEW now. I was worried I was going to have to see him back in WWE.

You just hit god-tier with that comment.

I was on IG last night and some of the comments were like "How did nobody know he was released?" and all this praise for his level of work and how great he is...Did they not see the irony in nobody, not even dirtsheet gods Meltzer and Alvin had a clue. Why? Because he's IMHO the most overrated wrestler of my generation. And that says a lot when you nerds know I've been watching wrestling for 35+ years. At least with Adam Cole I can go well, the promoters all love him so I'm in the minority. Or even Yuta, nobody is calling that dude fucking amazing (that matters).

[Donald]

Tony will hire anyone, won't he?

He'll be lost in the shuffle in a week or two after the shine wears off.

[MTR]

I like Strong but I don't think he is super great. Solid in the ring and fits well in a group where he doesn't have to do all the talking. But yeah nothing special in my view. He will have a nice little program with Cole against JAS and then yeah lost in the shuffle.

[Nash Diesel]

That's about 95% of AEW right now. That's why everyone is in a stable because there's only about 10 guys and gals who can stand on their own without all the extra cast and crew.

Is anyone just not feeling the MJF/Sammy pairing like I am? Someone posted that MJF had already peaked by doing that Iron Man match so early in his run and it's stood out to me that maybe they're right. MJF's reign has felt like it's been about 5-6 months already.

[MTR]

Yeah not caring for the pairing and this was a long way around to draw out things to get to the fatal four way.

I am not liking his reign as much as I thought I would. I think Danielson coming after him right at the start like Danielson did with Page didn't help either one of them and their reigns because you have some great matches with Danielson and then where do you go.

[Tainted Eclipse]

AEW badly needs to trim the fat on the roster. last thing in the world they need is another guy to work with. it's impossible for anyone on the roster to sustain momentum anyway and that's been the case for at least a year and a half now.

[Donald]

Aren't they dividing the roster up to be on two shows?

[MTR]

Supposedly.

Well at least Strong is with the same company as his wife and they can work on Dark together maybe.

[Nash Diesel]

Yeah not caring for the pairing and this was a long way around to draw out things to get to the fatal four way.

I am not liking his reign as much as I thought I would. I think Danielson coming after him right at the start like Danielson did with Page didn't help either one of them and their reigns because you have some great matches with Danielson and then where do you go.

It's like on one hand it made sense, the whole Regal thing. On the other, that whole thing felt like it should've been the 2nd or 3rd angle in MJF's title reign. Now it's like, I'm waiting for SOMETHING. The whole situation with the "pillars" feels like an Intercontinental title feud back in the era of Jeff Hardy, Shelton, and MJF is playing the part of Carlito lol.

I think the reality is we need MJF v. CM Punk.

[Fanny Batter]

Yeah Roderick benefitted from being in a golden era of wrestling and being easy to mold for the greats like Danielson to get a good match out of him with his fun moveset and physicality. But pretty much everybody is that now, so there's absolutely no use for him compared to somebody with charisma. Seems a good guy, don't begrudge him a career, but a waste of a roster spot. Though I suspect he'll be in ROH mostly, I guess that doesn't hurt given his status on the brand. Chuck him, O'Reilly and Fish on that show.

[MTR]

Now if they bring back ReDragon and put them all together I would be happy. *pulls out UE shirt* But I would say yeah put them on ROH if you do that.

[Tainted Eclipse]

zero interest in any kind of undisputed era affiliation. strong and jack evans reuniting and tagging again on the other hand ...

[Nash Diesel]

ANOTHER stable.

Actually I bet Roddy turns on Cole and joins JAS. Then Jericho will blame WWE for Roddy not getting over despite countless attempts. All while forgetting he was just as whack in ROH when they pushed him hard. I dug his tag-team with Aries, I liked the stable he had with I think Erick Stevens right? But when they put the belt on him....in ROH Land ok, fine, that's their thing. I remember many people saying my boy American Dragon would never get to WWE working that Regal/Backlund style he had there despite the crowd chanting "BEST IN THE WORLD" at him. Unlike Jericho and Punk who had to tell the audience they were ;)

I remember the first time I saw Roderick was back in TNA when they had that relationship with ROH. He came in to challenge for the X division title. I was like, this is Dean Malenko only without the tough old man look.

[Peter Griffin]

Yeah Roderick benefitted from being in a golden era of wrestling and being easy to mold for the greats like Danielson to get a good match out of him with his fun moveset and physicality. But pretty much everybody is that now, so there's absolutely no use for him compared to somebody with charisma. Seems a good guy, don't begrudge him a career, but a waste of a roster spot. Though I suspect he'll be in ROH mostly, I guess that doesn't hurt given his status on the brand. Chuck him, O'Reilly and Fish on that show.

Fish can fish off.

[VHS]

Roddy won’t be main eventing any Double or Nothins, but he’ll still put on some banger matches. His finals days in NXT were so depressing.

He’s exactly where he should be. :yes:

[Morrison]

tony REALLY wants to do that UE vs elite six man.

[Mazer]

tony REALLY wants to do that UE vs elite six man.

Nah. An 8 man with Cole, Fish, O'Reilly, and Strong vs. Omega, Bucks, and Hangman will introduce the Quatro championship.

[MTR]

I am okay with that. :shifty:

[Badger]

I was wondering where Fish was actually but looked it up and his contract expired last year and they didn’t renew it. Kyle O’Reilly’s still employed though.

Wish it was the other way round as Fish is way more interesting and KOR while a decent worker is a charisma vacuum.

[MTR]

Fish is with Impact but hasn't been on tv since like Oct with them and has worked some New Japan dates for the New Japan Strong brand.

[Badger]

Fish is with Impact but hasn't been on tv since like Oct with them and has worked some New Japan dates for the New Japan Strong brand.

No wonder I haven’t seen him lol. Last time I watched that brand it was years ago when it was TNA and they were still doing Aces and Eights.

[Nash Diesel]

I'd rather see Chavo Guerrero and Vickie team up and beat FTR for the titles.

[Badger]

I'd rather see Chavo Guerrero and Vickie team up and beat FTR for the titles.

Although the visual of Vickie getting the pin after her “frog splash” would be funny af.

[Donald]

Looks like around $30 for cheapest tickets and $1,500 for most expensive.

[Tainted Eclipse]

tony REALLY wants to do that UE vs elite six man.

the UE stuff and the long adam page feud was the death of my interest in adam cole, who i was open to enjoying when he debuted because he was so over and had the great theme, even though i'd never liked him anywhere before. it's too bad they didn't get to immediately do cole challenging kenny for leadership of the elite, which i think would have been a really hot program in late 2021.

[Peter Griffin]

Looks like around $30 for cheapest tickets and $1,500 for most expensive.

Pounds.

[Morrison]

the UE stuff and the long adam page feud was the death of my interest in adam cole, who i was open to enjoying when he debuted because he was so over and had the great theme, even though i'd never liked him anywhere before. it's too bad they didn't get to immediately do cole challenging kenny for leadership of the elite, which i think would have been a really hot program in late 2021.

SAME. was not a UE fan and my interest in NXT fell off dramatically around the time they started taking up more of the focus. i love adam cole as a person, but within wrestling he just always feels like this fucking doofus, but him coming into AEW and clearly foreshadowing the angle that he's looking to overtake kenny as the leader of the elite was promising and i was up for it. as soon as they announced fish as a rando opponent for a tnt title shot, i was like 'oh no...'

[Badger]

If Cole hadn’t had that injury, they possibly may have still gone that heel route. I see the points on Cole’s presentation but personally doesn’t bother me that much. If anyone can get that extra face sympathy heat for Cole it is Le Champion.

[Defrost]

tony REALLY wants to do that UE vs elite six man.

I was very confused by this post trying to figure out what the hell United Empire had to do with any of this.

[Donald]

I was trying to think of why unexpected erections happen in wrestling.

[Peter Griffin]

In a week where the ACH NXT t-shirt came back into focus after the racism lawsuit AEW drop a t-shirt of a woman with a black eye with zero context :scared:

[lotjx]

In a week where the ACH NXT t-shirt came back into focus after the racism lawsuit AEW drop a t-shirt of a woman with a black eye with zero context :scared:

I guess I missed all those busted face Becky shirts being a thing. Britt called out fans like you, saying it was ok and basically saying it was about the same thing as equating shirts with blood on them with condoning murder. This AEW thread is so much stand up for WWE and boo competition, its gross. The moment someone goes to AEW, its well, I never liked them in NXT or WWE. Right, sure.

[Peter Griffin]

What?

[Donald]

lotjx hates when people go yay WWE boo everyone else.

[Peter Griffin]

It's not even that though...its just a very poorly thought out shirt.

[Donald]

I haven't seen it but I read about it.

[Peter Griffin]

Like I say it's literally just a picture of Britt with a black eye, zero context

[Donald]

No context, so people are complaining, but the people who are the ones complaining are the ones who know the context?

[MTR]

In a week where the ACH NXT t-shirt came back into focus after the racism lawsuit AEW drop a t-shirt of a woman with a black eye with zero context :scared:

She got a black eye during the attack that the OutCasts did with Cole handcuffed to the ropes. They even mentioned it the following week on Dynamite that she has a black eye from it. So there is your context

[MTR]

I guess I missed all those busted face Becky shirts being a thing. Britt called out fans like you, saying it was ok and basically saying it was about the same thing as equating shirts with blood on them with condoning murder. This AEW thread is so much stand up for WWE and boo competition, its gross. The moment someone goes to AEW, its well, I never liked them in NXT or WWE. Right, sure.

Man you went a very extreme side on this. Jesus. Calm down. There are plenty of us here that love AEW.

[Donald]

She got a black eye during the attack that the OutCasts did with Cole handcuffed to the ropes. They even mentioned it the following week on Dynamite that she has a black eye from it. So there is your context

I think the issue is that if you didn't watch wrestling, and you saw that shirt out in public, you'd think it was about domestic abuse.

[Nash Diesel]

I guess I missed all those busted face Becky shirts being a thing. Britt called out fans like you, saying it was ok and basically saying it was about the same thing as equating shirts with blood on them with condoning murder. This AEW thread is so much stand up for WWE and boo competition, its gross. The moment someone goes to AEW, its well, I never liked them in NXT or WWE. Right, sure.

You sound like a weirdo on Twitter blindly ranting. None of what you said happens in this thread, ever.


Like I say it's literally just a picture of Britt with a black eye, zero context

If you watched the show you would know.


I think the issue is that if you didn't watch wrestling, and you saw that shirt out in public, you'd think it was about domestic abuse.

Maybe. The shirt is whack. The funny thing to me though is that she had the Role Model shirt where she's covered in blood, I don't know if there was any backlash over there. But I will say this--the shirt with Britt's black eye looks stupid and looks like an anti-domestic abuse shirt.

[Peter Griffin]

She got a black eye during the attack that the OutCasts did with Cole handcuffed to the ropes. They even mentioned it the following week on Dynamite that she has a black eye from it. So there is your context

I mean in the shirt sully, if you are about town and you are wearing this it's just a picture of a woman with a black eye dunno why you are being snippy, got off tks dick man :rofl:

[Peter Griffin]

Man you went a very extreme side on this. Jesus. Calm down. There are plenty of us here that love AEW.

I too love AEW as evidenced by the fact I'm going to Wembley babayyyyy.

[Donald]

I too love AEW as evidenced by the fact I'm going to Wembley babayyyyy.

Hopefully not nosebleed seats.

[MTR]

I mean in the shirt sully, if you are about town and you are wearing this it's just a picture of a woman with a black eye dunno why you are being snippy, got off tks dick man :rofl:

So they have to put the whole story on the shirt so like a random person doesn't think that you are a domestic abuse supporter if you are wearing it. I mean easy enough if someone gives you a look or questions it to say it is a wrestling shirt. Didn't they also sell t-shirts with Britt's bloody face from the various wars she has had with Rosa. Pretty sure they didn't spell those out either. Don't remember backlash to that. I think people complaining are over thinking this.

And I wasn't being snippy. Well not to you.

[Peter Griffin]

Well probably to be fair, I imagine all the good ones will be snapped up pretty quick, plus cost a lot more anyway. Its gonna be a coll experience anyway, can't wait to see my main man Adam Cole babayyyyy.

[Peter Griffin]

So they have to put the whole story on the shirt so like a random person doesn't think that you are a domestic abuse supporter if you are wearing it. I mean easy enough if someone gives you a look or questions it to say it is a wrestling shirt. Didn't they also sell t-shirts with Britt's bloody face from the various wars she has had with Rosa. Pretty sure they didn't spell those out either. Don't remember backlash to that. I think people complaining are over thinking this.

And I wasn't being snippy. Well not to you.

No but some kind if text or something I dunno, I am not a t-shirt designer.

[MTR]

No but some kind if text or something I dunno, I am not a t-shirt designer.

Just curious. What kind of text would you put on it to give it context?

[Nash Diesel]

I will say this..tbf, the Becky Lynch shirt that said Lass Kicker was met with the same pushback. Worse than the one with her broken nose.

I remember a few years ago there was some weird Halloween trend going on where girls would dress up as domestic abuse victims. I believe Selena Gomez or Zendaya might've been one of the celebs that did it and that's what put light on the whole trend.

For me the shirt just sucks. It's just a black eye. The Role Model shirt she's covered in blood. But it looks like a wrestling shirt. This shirt looks like the back is going to say "If you're a victim of domestic abuse please visit www.;lakjf;j.org" or some shit. Since I'm in the bubble and know why she has a black eye I wouldn't think that but I can see WHY people would.

[Donald]

I guaratnee you that you'd only see this shirt being worn at an AEW event. In AEW's existence, I've seen maybe a handful of AEW shirts out in public away from a wrestling setting, and four of those were the CM Punk shirt.

[MTR]

I see AEW shirts out and about and I wear a couple. lol Okay in fairness one of them is CM Punk and I actually retired the shirt and don't wear it anymore. But I still wear my new one which is the Oh Scissor Me Daddy shirt. Funny thing is that I saw more non-AEW shirts at the Dynamite I went to a while back then I did AEW shirts. And that included me and my kids who did not wear any AEW shirts. We bought AEW shirts though while we were there.

[Peter Griffin]

I have one aew shirt from a couple of years ago, it talks hard ut hits harder.

[Nash Diesel]

I guaratnee you that you'd only see this shirt being worn at an AEW event. In AEW's existence, I've seen maybe a handful of AEW shirts out in public away from a wrestling setting, and four of those were the CM Punk shirt.

I've never seen anyone other than my son wearing an AEW shirt that I bought him. One of Moxley's first shirts. I see more of those Bullet Club Hot Topic shirts than AEW shirts. We just have to understand, AEW isn't WWE. I mean, we didn't exactly see a bunch of TNA t-shirts back in the day.

[Donald]

Guy working at a local Game Stop was wearing a CM Punk AEW shirt, and I had a Braun Strowman t-shirt on. It was around the time of one of the big AEW PPVs, and he asked me if I saw the show, and I said I don't watch AEW. He seemed very sad about that :lol:

[Mazer]

I have seen more Bullet Club, and old Elite stuff. I have yet to see a HOOKtm shirt out in the wild. Even though it was apparently an amazing seller.

Honestly, AEW needs better merch. What are the biggest sellers ever? Austin 3:16. NWO. CM Punk. These are simple shirts with clean designs. Most people aren't going to wear a huge picture of the shirtless young bucks or cody rhodes and his neck tattoo. That only works if it's retro guys.

The all-time best shirts...... These are shirts you could wear outside, and not immediately have to explain your hobbies to anyone who you engaged in a conversation with. They're a wink and a nod to other wrestling fans.


https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0070/5698/2143/products/unisex-premium-t-shirt-black-front-604f62bb55497.jpg

This is a shirt I wear, and I can choose whether to acknowledge any of the head nods with a conversation.

[Nash Diesel]

It's hard enough as a kid/teen wearing wrestling shirts to school it's 100x harder once you're 18+ and wearing a wrestling shirt. Me personally IDGAF I mean I'm not showing up to my daughter's graduation party wearing my new John Cena shirt my son ordered for me or my Road Dogg shirt from the night Trips won his first World title. But if I'm going to Target, to someone's house, shit I'm probably going to see Hed PE tonight and I'm wearing a Bloodsport t-shirt. (Movie not the promotion).

But I think some of the most popular wrestling shirts are the ones that don't look like wrestling shirts. That's why the nWo, DX, Austin, and a few others sold so well in the late 90's. Fast forward I thought the Tapout/Affliction influenced era of WWE shirts were really cool. Some of those shirts looked like rock band shirts.

Even going back to the 80's some of those shirts looked like the 80's itself if that makes sense so that's why the red and yellow Hulk Rules/Hulkamania shirts or the purple Macho Man shirt have stood the test of time. They're throwbacks to that vibe of the 80's.

[Mazer]

It's hard enough as a kid/teen wearing wrestling shirts to school it's 100x harder once you're 18+ and wearing a wrestling shirt. Me personally IDGAF I mean I'm not showing up to my daughter's graduation party wearing my new John Cena shirt my son ordered for me or my Road Dogg shirt from the night Trips won his first World title. But if I'm going to Target, to someone's house, shit I'm probably going to see Hed PE tonight and I'm wearing a Bloodsport t-shirt. (Movie not the promotion).

But I think some of the most popular wrestling shirts are the ones that don't look like wrestling shirts. That's why the nWo, DX, Austin, and a few others sold so well in the late 90's. Fast forward I thought the Tapout/Affliction influenced era of WWE shirts were really cool. Some of those shirts looked like rock band shirts.

Even going back to the 80's some of those shirts looked like the 80's itself if that makes sense so that's why the red and yellow Hulk Rules/Hulkamania shirts or the purple Macho Man shirt have stood the test of time. They're throwbacks to that vibe of the 80's.

Bloodsport the Movie is a completely different conversation.

Wrestling shirts that don't look like a wrestling shirts is a good way to put it. I have a BCC shirt, but it's basically just AEW shows and around the house. Because I'm not wearing the "bloody fist" shirt to go grab some Costa Verde with Mrs. Mazer. Meanwhile, I will wear my Imperium or UE shirt in any setting.

There is a retro effect that makes things feel completely different. Maybe in 20 years, I'll be able to talk myself info an American Nightmare Wolf face shirt. But I'd rock a retro Dusty Rhodes shirt right now.

[Nash Diesel]

Bloodsport the Movie is a completely different conversation.

Wrestling shirts that don't look like a wrestling shirts is a good way to put it. I have a BCC shirt, but it's basically just AEW shows and around the house. Because I'm not wearing the "bloody fist" shirt to go grab some Costa Verde with Mrs. Mazer. Meanwhile, I will wear my Imperium or UE shirt in any setting.

There is a retro effect that makes things feel completely different. Maybe in 20 years, I'll be able to talk myself info an American Nightmare Wolf face shirt. But I'd rock a retro Dusty Rhodes shirt right now.

I agree with the retro effect. Some of these shirts transcend into pop culture. It's why Kendall Jenner can get away with wearing a nWo Wolfpac t-shirt and panties and I can't.

[Mazer]

Hey. Hey.

Don't be too hard on yourself.

[Donald]

Saw people complaining the Wembley show sold out too quickly and they didn't get tickets.

If it's scalpers, how come they don't make reselling of tickets illegal? Like, if you can't make the show, you should be able to get a refund from where you bought the tickets from, and then they can resell them.

[Peter Griffin]

Not sold out, today was the first phase of pre sale.

[Donald]

Well the pre sale sold out even though they had codes

[MTR]

Because they only open up so many seats for presale and lots of people had codes. So yeah not surprised. Probably more people with codes than available seats.

That being said I do hate scalpers and those third party resell sites. I won't use them. If I buy tickets they are from whatever official platform is being used by venue or straight from a person. Ticketmaster will let you resell tickets if you are not able to use them and I actually bought some resell tickets for a Battlehawks game and ended up spending less money on those tickets because the person sold them at less than face value. But yeah I am not paying more than face value plus whatever stupid fees and all those tickets on stubhub and what not are almost always above face value which is bull.

[Mazer]

I'll usually look at like 6 different sites for the best deals.

[MTR]

I plan on getting to a St. Louis City SC game at some point and probably going to buy off a season ticket holder that can't go. I am in a buy and sale group on facebook and they do a pretty good job of keeping scammers out. And people are not allowed to sell their ticket above face value.

[Mazer]

I plan on getting to a St. Louis City SC game at some point and probably going to buy off a season ticket holder that can't go. I am in a buy and sale group on facebook and they do a pretty good job of keeping scammers out. And people are not allowed to sell their ticket above face value.

That's solid

[MTR]

Yeah I need to pick a game a this point to shoot for and see what I can afford. I wanted to go to the leagues cup game against America but I bet that is out of my price range. STH got first crack at that game.

[Romford Pele]

Saw people complaining the Wembley show sold out too quickly and they didn't get tickets.

If it's scalpers, how come they don't make reselling of tickets illegal? Like, if you can't make the show, you should be able to get a refund from where you bought the tickets from, and then they can resell them.

I logged on for the presale, cheapest tickets were £200 for not even good seats.

[Badger]

Is the general sale not Friday? Can’t be sold out already.

I registered for pre-sale but unfortunately was working at the time of the slot so couldn’t get on.

[MTR]

It is not sold out. The stuff available during the first presale is gone though. General sale starts on Friday. I actually have a link to another presale tomorrow because I have bought stuff from Show AEW in the past.

[Badger]

Yeah meant to say Friday.

[Nash Diesel]

I'm enjoying reading all the AEW wrestlers and their die hard supporters battling nobodies on Twitter about this show. Like who gives a shit what some neckbeard in Montana thinks about AEW in general let alone if they can sell out Wembley. It makes people in AEW look stale.

[Donald]

Yeah, Tony, Jericho, Baker, Paige, they all seem butt hurt when someone says they can't sell out Wembley. Just shut up and prove them wrong lol

I might be wrong, but I don't see WWE stars doing that. Then again, I don't see anyone saying WWE won't sell out shows.

[Mazer]

Rollins used to get feisty on social media. Think he was told not to get into it about other companies.

[Nash Diesel]

Yeah I don't care what company you are with or if you're even a wrestling company to begin with. I know I'll never be able to relate to people on social media who have the kind of following they have and attention they bring. But you never really see anything positive from the majority being shared. Rob Van Dam is one of the few wrestlers who will sometimes share negative tweets to respond to but also people discussing positive things. Why is Taz arguing with some dork with 54 followers and a paid blue check mark about AEW?

I'll tell you why. The same reason a crackhead smokes crack. Chasing that high. We want attention and that's why people say stupid shit like if they hate you, you must be doing something right. That's why we live in a world where every generation is right lol. No my generation sold out Wembley and my new video game is the next No Mercy and we're like Hall and Nash only bigger. The fuck. How many times will a crackhead smoke crack?

[Defrost]

For those that don't follow New Japan it's looking like Forbidden Door 2 is going to have Jon Moxley vs Kazuchika Okada, Kenny Omega vs Will Ospreay, and Aussie Open vs FTR.

[Donald]

Good God that card is dire. I cannot imagine caring about any of this.

[Nash Diesel]

They'll be good matches.

[Donald]

Lack of star power is really my issue.

[Mazer]

I think it should be good. Some of the bigger names, and they should go hard for these matches.

[Badger]

Got my ticket for the Wembley show. Refreshing Ticketmaster before my shift lol but got in there. £81 and in section 528. Haven’t checked the Wembley seating plan so might be far up but hey I’ll

[Donald]

That's fantastic news Badger. I hope you enjoy the show. That's not a bad price, not really sure what 81 lbs is in 'merica money. I"m sure you'll

[Nash Diesel]

I heard they're giving out free tickets if you show up dressed like Dynamite Kid and Chris Adams.

[Badger]

That's fantastic news Badger. I hope you enjoy the show. That's not a bad price, not really sure what 81 lbs is in 'merica money. I"m sure you'll

Roughly 100 bucks.

[Defrost]

Here's a question. Should they go with a big stage or should they try to sell everything they can? A lot of people think without a stage the show doesn't look big time even if there are a ton of people there.

[Mazer]

Here's a question. Should they go with a big stage or should they try to sell everything they can? A lot of people think without a stage the show doesn't look big time even if there are a ton of people there.

I think you gotta go with the spectacle in Wembley. Pro-stage for me

[MTR]

For those that don't follow New Japan it's looking like Forbidden Door 2 is going to have Jon Moxley vs Kazuchika Okada, Kenny Omega vs Will Ospreay, and Aussie Open vs FTR.

Not surprised with those two rematches. FTR retained against Aussie Open while they were the champs and I imagine Aussie Open retains this time around. Guess we never did get an Okada vs Moxley match during Moxley's run with New Japan so that should be good.

[Peter Griffin]

Tickets booked babayyyyyy. #AllAboutTheBoom

[Badger]

60,000 sold as of a few hours ago. This is gonna be nuts.

[Badger]

And now I’m tempted to bring a “Vote Peter Griffin’ signs even if it’s miles away from the cameras and no-one around me will have a clue what I’m on about. :p

[Peter Griffin]

I'm block 508 :eek:

[Tainted Eclipse]

Here's a question. Should they go with a big stage or should they try to sell everything they can? A lot of people think without a stage the show doesn't look big time even if there are a ton of people there.

maximize attendance. no better visual than seeing a totally packed stadium. if they can promote having the legit biggest (non-forced) wrestling show attendance of all time they should go for it.

[Badger]

I'm block 508 :eek:

I’m gonna climb twenty sections and invade you during the intermission. :muahaha:

[Peter Griffin]

Or we could just go for a beer before seeing as the plan is to get a national express which will have us in London for 2pm, Unless you want to pick us up on the way down.

[Badger]

Or we could just go for a beer before seeing as the plan is to get a national express which will have us in London for 2pm, Unless you want to pick us up on the way down.

I’m leaning on right now at least flying and crashing in a hotel overnight before the show rather than a tiring overnight journey from Scotland but will give you a shout with my plans nearer the time. :yes:

Just wanted to get the holidays and the ticket, haven’t sorted the rest yet.

[Peter Griffin]

Same, Just bought the tickets when I saw they got to 60k , I'm not missing this.

[Peter Griffin]

Wonder if they do flights from East Midlands to London :rofl:

[OD50]

Here's a question. Should they go with a big stage or should they try to sell everything they can? A lot of people think without a stage the show doesn't look big time even if there are a ton of people there.
If they can legit sell out the stadium they could use a stage/screen set-up similar to this to get the best of both worlds:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74bXouPyNeY&ab_channel=MatchroomBoxing

[Defrost]

Upfronts for TV are coming up in a few days so some stuff is leaking out.

Looks like AEW's new TV deal with WBD will be for 5 years in the 1.1-1.2 billion dollar range.

[Nash Diesel]

I'm hoping it's true and they put everything on (HBO)Max. Do exactly what the WWE is doing. It's the only show other than basketball that I think people watch besides Star Wars and DC movies. Christmas Story twice a year lol. So you can do all the shows still on TNT/TBS and then a month later, boom, there it is on Max. All the ppvs, ROH, "best of" type stuff, all on their own little hub. Why the fuck else would you be getting that kind of money? Outside of that maybe the hypothetical what if WWE doesn't exist within those 5 years?

[Morrison]

god fucking damn what a cage match.

[Murphy]

Still haven't got tickets for All In.

Concerned its going to finish really late and I'm relying on public transport. And my lad isn't great with big crowds. He'd be ok in the stadium, it's the train afterwards. No chance of a hotel at this stage, I'd say.

Plus, my lad isn't even bothered, it's all about me. :lol:

[Donald]

Smart lad, not being bothered by AEW.

[Murphy]

Smart lad, not being bothered by AEW.

You're a very strange dude.

[Donald]

Better than the alternative.

[Badger]

Wild catch match and nicely done turn by Callis. Helped both Moxley and Omega on separate occasions against the other.

Looking forward to the explanation.

[MTR]

When did he betray Moxley? He helped Omega beat Moxley but that was not a betrayal. He just helped Moxley win after being on commentary due to Omega's request.

Either way that match was wild. That v-trigger. Wow.

And I was shocked by the turn because I honestly was waiting on Omega to turn on the Elite due to Callis pushing him that way. Maybe this will be the reason behind the turn. Omega was brushing Callis off at times while Callis was trying to get him to focus on himself and not worry about the Bucks and the trios titles anymore after they lost them. I can see that. We shall see how they explain it.

[Nash Diesel]

I think this feud would've been better if The Elite were the heels. Then you could pivot to them feuding with a returning Punk and FTR. They're going to try to play the long game and hope the EVPs grow a set and do business. A "brand split" but not because of the obvious (too big of a roster) naw it's to keep The Elite from getting beat up by Old Man Punk again.

[Badger]

When did he betray Moxley? He helped Omega beat Moxley but that was not a betrayal. He just helped Moxley win after being on commentary due to Omega's request.

Either way that match was wild. That v-trigger. Wow.

And I was shocked by the turn because I honestly was waiting on Omega to turn on the Elite due to Callis pushing him that way. Maybe this will be the reason behind the turn. Omega was brushing Callis off at times while Callis was trying to get him to focus on himself and not worry about the Bucks and the trios titles anymore after they lost them. I can see that. We shall see how they explain it.

Okay betrayed was the wrong word. I meant costing one in different matches against the others. It’s almost a mirror image.

[Murphy]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Donald again.

You know I love you Donald

I'm behind on AEW, but will catch up later.

[Defrost]

Sounds like this Wembley deal is gonna have a Wrestlemania Weekend kinda feel. Rev Pro is running the Copper Box that weekend.

[Donald]

This new Collision show, if it's airing on Saturday evenings, will have to compete with WWE PLEs.

[Badger]

Still haven't got tickets for All In.

Concerned its going to finish really late and I'm relying on public transport. And my lad isn't great with big crowds. He'd be ok in the stadium, it's the train afterwards. No chance of a hotel at this stage, I'd say.

Plus, my lad isn't even bothered, it's all about me. :lol:

Haven’t looked at a hotel yet. Probably should have done it by now but just wanted to get the ticket.

Hopefully get one close to the airport, I believe Heathrow is the closest one to Wembley so I can roll out of bed lol.

[Nash Diesel]

This new Collision show, if it's airing on Saturday evenings, will have to compete with WWE PLEs.

As well as every other combat sport including the UFC. The UFC took over the "ppv" market 10 years ago from the wrestling world. Upside is the WWE only does at least one PLE a month. Some of the NXT stuff has been on Sundays.

I'm 50/50 about Saturday shows. I mean, FOR ME it doesn't matter I don't do shit I'm old. Does it really matter though what day it's on? I think we're reaching that point in wrestling now where everything is going to be available on the internet in some fashion. Wrestling on channel 5 will be for your local/regional promotions that can't get on a Hulu type platform.

If the rumors are true as to why they're doing this show I think that is more comical and disturbing than anything. Imagine if we heard that the draft happened because Triple H and Undertaker got into a "fight" backstage. We would never let that down lol. Dude if I'm Tony Khan I'm telling these motherfuckers you are headlining Wembley, quit being a little bitch and let's bang this out before these marks forget about us.

[Nash Diesel]

If Wembley isn't headlined by CM Punk in some fashion they've failed. MJF v. CM Punk end all be all for the title Punk never lost, put a stamp on the best thing to happen in wrestling aside from the Bloodline in years. Or you have Punk grab a couple homeys and you do a 6-man tag FMW style match. Fighting through the crowds, blood, tables, make it look like a real fight.

Part of me thinks the World champ should headline but it's not necessary if Punk isn't the guy. MJF v. Adam Cole or some whack shit like that--no thanks. I mean they've already sold 70,000 tickets so they could have Tito Santana v. Papa Shango II since every other match on Summerslam 1992's card can't happen due to 1 or more deceased wrestlers. That's depressing.

[Defrost]

If Wembley isn't headlined by CM Punk in some fashion they've failed. MJF v. CM Punk end all be all for the title Punk never lost, put a stamp on the best thing to happen in wrestling aside from the Bloodline in years. Or you have Punk grab a couple homeys and you do a 6-man tag FMW style match. Fighting through the crowds, blood, tables, make it look like a real fight.

Part of me thinks the World champ should headline but it's not necessary if Punk isn't the guy. MJF v. Adam Cole or some whack shit like that--no thanks. I mean they've already sold 70,000 tickets so they could have Tito Santana v. Papa Shango II since every other match on Summerslam 1992's card can't happen due to 1 or more deceased wrestlers. That's depressing.

The problem here is that there is a PPV in Chicago the next week. One would think the big Punk match would be there.

[Donald]

If Wembley isn't headlined by CM Punk in some fashion they've failed. MJF v. CM Punk end all be all for the title Punk never lost, put a stamp on the best thing to happen in wrestling aside from the Bloodline in years. Or you have Punk grab a couple homeys and you do a 6-man tag FMW style match. Fighting through the crowds, blood, tables, make it look like a real fight.

Part of me thinks the World champ should headline but it's not necessary if Punk isn't the guy. MJF v. Adam Cole or some whack shit like that--no thanks. I mean they've already sold 70,000 tickets so they could have Tito Santana v. Papa Shango II since every other match on Summerslam 1992's card can't happen due to 1 or more deceased wrestlers. That's depressing.

Nailz and Virgil are still alive

[Nash Diesel]

The problem here is that there is a PPV in Chicago the next week. One would think the big Punk match would be there.

Punk thinks he's a Harley Race, Ric Flair, Terry Funk type. What's stopping him from headlining both? He's going to be on both shows right? Would they seriously leave him off the Wembley show? That'd be hilarious.

And see, that mentality is what I'm talking about. They've already sold the tickets so who gives a shit who's on the card. And that's what scares me as a fan. I don't want some half assed show.

[Nash Diesel]

Nailz and Virgil are still alive

Sauce Master v. Nailz? I actually thought Nailz died in prison fighting Jean Claude Van Damme. Different guy.

[Eddie Brock]

If Wembley isn't headlined by CM Punk in some fashion they've failed. MJF v. CM Punk end all be all for the title Punk never lost, put a stamp on the best thing to happen in wrestling aside from the Bloodline in years. Or you have Punk grab a couple homeys and you do a 6-man tag FMW style match. Fighting through the crowds, blood, tables, make it look like a real fight.

Part of me thinks the World champ should headline but it's not necessary if Punk isn't the guy. MJF v. Adam Cole or some whack shit like that--no thanks. I mean they've already sold 70,000 tickets so they could have Tito Santana v. Papa Shango II since every other match on Summerslam 1992's card can't happen due to 1 or more deceased wrestlers. That's depressing.I think Goldberg/MJF could be a possibility. Obviously, it would be a 5 minute match, and MJF would get the win, so that's not how you'd end the show so whatever Omega's match is would go on last in that scenario.

In a fairy tale world, it would be CM Punk and FTR vs. The Elite in the main event. Hopefully, all sides can move on from the past and work together.

[Badger]

I think Goldberg/MJF could be a possibility. Obviously, it would be a 5 minute match, and MJF would get the win, so that's not how you'd end the show so whatever Omega's match is would go on last in that scenario.

In a fairy tale world, it would be CM Punk and FTR vs. The Elite in the main event. Hopefully, all sides can move on from the past and work together.

No offence but completely done and exhausted with Goldberg at this point. Had his prime and time and should retire. MJF having to carry the majority of the mic work and no doubt bump sounds eeeewwww.

Also maybe just me but though I appreciate others feel differently, not clamouring for Punk. Respect his accomplishments but just too much of an ego and volatile for my tastes.

[Defrost]

Sounds like this Wembley deal is gonna have a Wrestlemania Weekend kinda feel. Rev Pro is running the Copper Box that weekend.

Will Ospreay vs Shingo Takagi is the main event of this show

[Peter Griffin]

The problem here is that there is a PPV in Chicago the next week. One would think the big Punk match would be there.

Punk has to be on the card though surely? Maybe do a 6 man at Wembley and a singles in Chicago.

I literally have no idea of the card but I'm hyped already.

[Peter Griffin]

All I ask is I get to see TK off his face live :lol:

[Defrost]

Punk has to be on the card though surely? Maybe do a 6 man at Wembley and a singles in Chicago.

I literally have no idea of the card but I'm hyped already.

Oh yeah he's totally gonna be on the show. I'm just thinking because a PPV in Chicago is the next week that they will be Punk's bigger match of the two shows.

[Romford Pele]

If Wembley isn't headlined by CM Punk in some fashion they've failed. MJF v. CM Punk end all be all for the title Punk never lost, put a stamp on the best thing to happen in wrestling aside from the Bloodline in years. Or you have Punk grab a couple homeys and you do a 6-man tag FMW style match. Fighting through the crowds, blood, tables, make it look like a real fight.

Part of me thinks the World champ should headline but it's not necessary if Punk isn't the guy. MJF v. Adam Cole or some whack shit like that--no thanks. I mean they've already sold 70,000 tickets so they could have Tito Santana v. Papa Shango II since every other match on Summerslam 1992's card can't happen due to 1 or more deceased wrestlers. That's depressing.

HBK v Rick Martel? I think that's the only other one...

[Donald]

HBK v Rick Martel? I think that's the only other one...

I was thinkingnhenledtbitoff cause sherrinmartel managed rick martel and she passed away

[OD50]

How about Nailz vs. Virgil II? The rematch the world has waited over 30 years for.

[Nash Diesel]

I saw Sienna was on AEW again to job to the shittiest piledriver known to man.

[VHS]

Watched her match w/ Toni and what caught my eye was Toni's outfit. She always had pretty cool attire, but now she's wearing what... black bell bottoms? I remember during the diva era every lady was wearing those bell bottom pants. And yeah, that pile driver was tired as frick.

[Murphy]

I know I'm getting on a bit and it's only wrestling, but does anyone else think the outside interference in wrestling has gotten really, really lazy over the years? Back in the day, unless I'm remembering incorrectly, only managers were allowed at ringside. I seem to recall fondly Gorilla Monsoon's 'manager's licence' line on commentary.

Last week for example, on Rampage. Toni Storm Vs Allysin Kay. Kay hits a big move, has the cover, and Saraya rolls into the ring. Aubrey Edwards rushes to push her away and Storm soon hits the 'Storm Zero' for the pin.

Scenarios like this just make Aubrey Edwards look like an absolute fucking idiot. Takes me right out of it, too.

Yeah, yeah, I'm overthinking it. But I'm bored. :lol:

[MTR]

yeah they used to make a big deal of only people with a license could be ringside and even do things like if a wrestler was ringside having him show he has a license. They did that bit a while back on Dynamite with Ethan Page when he had Lambert coming out with him. He was wrestling Orange and they made Best Friends leave the ring because they didn't have a license.

I agree that it can be a bit much at times and they always play off the numbers game and what not on commentary when the heel wins because of things. I guess it makes the whole banned from ringside thing more special at times. At the end of the day for the most part doesn't bother me too much.

[Badger]

Jade Cargill reign at this point is probably the most boring undefeated streak in the history of wrestling. No intrigue more like “Thank God it’s over!” if/when it happens.

[Nash Diesel]

IMO they should've had her win the main title about 4-5 months ago. Then she could take her first loss losing the TBS title. And by now she'd probably be set to drop it one of the Outcasts. Problem with AEW, there is nobody to give Jade the rub in the women's division. She's beat Thunder Rosa, she could beat Britt that's not a question or any of the others. I think if anything she should get snatched up by Jericho's squad and she could be under his wing for a little bit. She could be AEW's Rhea Ripley/Chyna type.

At this point, she might as well drop the TBS title to Nyla Rose, Britt Baker, and then move on to the Women's title. If the idea is to have her move up and then be another wrestler well that's going to make everything prior pointless. She has to still look strong because again, she's beat some credible people some that were already AEW women's champion. If she does the job to Toni Storm and that shit piledriver, well, off to WWE she goes.

Imagine what HBK and the NXT team could do with her. Imagine her on the main roster with that level of talent? She'd be main eventing 40 with Bianca.

[MTR]

Yeah they have really not booked her well.

She has beaten former champs Rose and Nyla. She has beat Athena the current ROH champ. She has beaten Soho who keeps getting stop and go pushes but has had chances at the women's title. They never paired her against Hayter, Britt, Shida, or Storm but she is experienced enough at this point to have good matches with any of them. She has come a long way from the green person she was at the start of the streak.

Rumor was she was going to drop TBS title to Statlander and then Statlander got hurt again. Had she done that and moved into feuds with others and got into the title mix it would have been nice but this run has been stale. Even when they tried to make it interesting and at least give some of her title defenses a story instead of just random defenses it was okay but not much. Nyla stealing the title was okay. The whole kicking out Hogan and Velvet turning on her was okay. The fight over the finisher with Taya is okay. Just no real meat to anything she has done beyond she is undefeated with a ton of random open challenge defenses against random people and not everyone is even with AEW. She is not even on tv that much anymore it seems like.

She needs to drop the TBS title and then start chasing Hayter or something. Actually do something with her.

[Badger]

Yeah Statlander would’ve been awesome. The whole “Jaded” finishing move thing with Taya was intriguing to begin with but just…ehh because it made Taya look silly forgetting the stipulation. Shida wouldn’t be a bad shout if not being in the outcast angle.

Rhio if they wanted to do the David vs Goliath angle perhaps…

[mth]

Abadon.

[Donald]

You can ab me all you want.

[Nash Diesel]

I am curious how many people they've pitched to beat her. I'm shocked it wasn't Paige. I do notice that some of the "bigger" names in the women's division that she hasn't face are/were heels. Britt, Hayter, they turned babyface not that long ago and have been in this corny Outcast feud. Toni, Saraya, they're heels. Shida would be good but that's just a personal choice as I don't know if that would be as big of a deal.

The AEW women's division can't get into the next gear for some reason. They don't have those 1 or 2 really really incredible performers. I'm sick of the mentality that we should just accept mediocrity. There's nobody really on the horizon in AEW that's building up this fanbase and people are waiting for them to pull the trigger. That's who should beat Jade. Someone with a Sami Zayn/Daniel Bryan type character that people love to watch that want to see win the title/beat the undefeated monster.

The flipside to that is I think most of us are getting to a point where if she lost the title to Taya that'd be ok. Jade is still ultra green despite being in the business 2-3 years, only 30 years old. How much of a rub can someone get that's on the come up that's a young talent when the person they're beating isn't exactly Charlotte Flair.

If I'm booking, I would have one of the Outcasts beat her for the title. Specifically Paige/Saraya. Use the outside interference, Jade isn't that polished but she doesn't do crazy shit and Saraya doesn't either. Knowing AEW they'd probably have some stable stipulation where any of the 3 could defend the title and that would keep Saraya from working too much (neck issue).

[Mazer]

I am curious how many people they've pitched to beat her. I'm shocked it wasn't Paige. I do notice that some of the "bigger" names in the women's division that she hasn't face are/were heels. Britt, Hayter, they turned babyface not that long ago and have been in this corny Outcast feud. Toni, Saraya, they're heels. Shida would be good but that's just a personal choice as I don't know if that would be as big of a deal.

The AEW women's division can't get into the next gear for some reason. They don't have those 1 or 2 really really incredible performers. I'm sick of the mentality that we should just accept mediocrity. There's nobody really on the horizon in AEW that's building up this fanbase and people are waiting for them to pull the trigger. That's who should beat Jade. Someone with a Sami Zayn/Daniel Bryan type character that people love to watch that want to see win the title/beat the undefeated monster.

The flipside to that is I think most of us are getting to a point where if she lost the title to Taya that'd be ok. Jade is still ultra green despite being in the business 2-3 years, only 30 years old. How much of a rub can someone get that's on the come up that's a young talent when the person they're beating isn't exactly Charlotte Flair.

If I'm booking, I would have one of the Outcasts beat her for the title. Specifically Paige/Saraya. Use the outside interference, Jade isn't that polished but she doesn't do crazy shit and Saraya doesn't either. Knowing AEW they'd probably have some stable stipulation where any of the 3 could defend the title and that would keep Saraya from working too much (neck issue).

I like this plan, but I think you can avoid the stable defense.

AEW champs can work reduced schedules and really nobody is going to say much.

[MTR]

Yeah I was going to say the same thing. Right now Orange is the champ that is working his ass off. So Saraya not defending all the time is not a big issue if you were to put the belt on her.

I just want the belt of Jade and like push Jade to something better and eventually give her a run with the title. I never thought I would say that but she really has come along quite a ways in the short amount of time she has been in the business. She still has stuff to learn but she has star power.

[Badger]

Agreed, she’s way too big for that title now, the sooner the better. She’s certainly got the look and is marketable.

I really hope they’re not gonna have her go for a 100. Being denied the 60th by Taya is fine and she won’t lose out much in heat I don’t think.

[Murphy]

I see that the only reasonably priced tickets for All In are in the nosebleeds.

So unless it's like Clash at the Castle and prices come down closer to the event, I won't be going.

Fair play to Keith Lee going all natural, but had no idea the dude is only 38! Looking older does kinda fit in with him teaming with Dustin though.

[Mazer]

I feel like they've kind of booked themselves into a corner with Jade. her losing the streak almost has to be a big deal, but there's really not a great way to do it.

Better to rip the band-aid off at some point.

[MTR]

They had chances before and after Statlander got hurt to drop it to someone and let it mean something but at this point new people coming in like Ruby, Athena, Taya, etc just seem to be brought in and put her over. People are a bit over it and want more from Jade. Just be done with it and actually do something with her at this point.

[BigAl]

Fair play to Keith Lee going all natural, but had no idea the dude is only 38! Looking older does kinda fit in with him teaming with Dustin though.

Us men are lucky we can let our hair go grey and we often hear "oh man, he looks better with some grey in his beard." Or a white beard, in my case.

[Nash Diesel]

They had chances before and after Statlander got hurt to drop it to someone and let it mean something but at this point new people coming in like Ruby, Athena, Taya, etc just seem to be brought in and put her over. People are a bit over it and want more from Jade. Just be done with it and actually do something with her at this point.

I'm not even sure Stat was going to go over.

I'm also not sure as I said earlier if there is any actual meaning to beating Jade. Most of that is due to how poorly the women are booked in AEW. Jade is simply racking up wins and she's not like Goldberg where everyone in the country is tuned in watching this beast rise. The only negative to Jade losing is when she does, it won't matter who, but it won't be accepted 100%. There will be some backlash because that's the nature of the business and the fans who follow it. Jade could drop the title to Britt and you'll have 4-5 reasons why it was a mistake. Quantity over quality, never really gets anyone over.

[MTR]

Yeah Stat may have not gotten over but rumors were that she was going to be the one and never really hear rumors of others being the one to end the streak. We won't really ever know unless Khan tells us. So yeah who knows.

I think we all agree this streak has just not been done right and at this point yeah I don't think who ever beats her really gets a rub unless they have more of an unknown or not as big name defeat her in a shock value situation. Of course not sure that is great for Jade but at this point not sure anything is great for Jade until they get that belt off of her and actually give her a feud worth a damn that last longer than like 2 weeks. This thing with Taya is probably the longest feud. Maybe Nya. Not sure. Her streak is so full of just random ass open challenge matches over enhancement talent it just yeah is stale at this point.

[NeseToTheFace]

I wonder what the process was when putting the belt on Jade at the start. Was it "Okay, we'll make her our version of Goldberg" or "Who else are we going to put the secondary belt on?"

[MTR]

I think the idea was to boost her and make her the star that she is/can be. She beat Rosa and Soho on the way to win it and had good matches with them. But yeah just not done much else after that. They had options on how to put the belt on. Statlander, Nyla, Rosa, and Soho were all in that tournament. Was Hayter and Storm in there as well? Can' remember. They had options. Britt was the champ at the time.

Storm wasn't here yet.

Hayter, Shida, and Deeb were in it though.

I wish Deeb would have gotten a run with a title at some point.

[Nash Diesel]

I don't think there has ever been a real end game with Jade. They're 100% booking her on the idea that her looks are enough. Maybe there's a little Goldberg mentality that her matches can suck but nobody is reacting to a Jade match like we do a Goldberg match. I've said this before, if she were in the WWE, getting this kind of push, the fans better be eating her up and not just sitting on their hands like they do for Jade. It's basically "what outfit is she wearing?" And then that's it for the rest of the match.

She has good people to lean on in AEW but none of them book the show.

[VHS]

Double or Nothing was eh.

- Unsanctioned match stopped via ref stoppage. Ok.
- Arn biting Luchasaurus' thumb off kinda. What?
- Jade Cargill's streak ended by Statlander who just shows up and they have a match after Jade just beat Taya. Fart.
- Incredible 4 way, should have been the main event.
- Main event was too much shit.

[lotjx]

I have come to the conclusion these anarchy in the stadiums and the empty arena stuff with multiple people just don't work after the pandemic. I agree with VHS there is way too much going on. You can't focus on the action and there is no coherent way to do it. I did like the ppv. Karen Jarrett hitting Aubrey with the guitar was crazy as was that tag match. The Fatal Four Way even with MJ winning was probably the best 4 way in a very long time. I feel like the company is just waiting for Punk to decide to where to go next. That is a great place to be. However, I am fine with Statlander taking the belt off Jade that way. It opens for Jade dumping Mark Sterling and maybe changing her character up a bit. I guess she is taking time off same goes for Jamie Hayter. I want to route for the women's division, but minus Britt, it feels like when you get the title you get hurt within three months. Hayter coming out to fight Toni in England will get a massive pop. I expect them to move forward for All In considering they already made $8 million on ticket sales.

[Badger]

- It was a bit all over the place though I kinda liked the “exploding” superkick though. That was unique. Knew Takeshita was going to interfere and curious to see him as a heel.
- The ending stretch of the battle royal was fun. I’d like to see Swerve vs Cassidy for real.
- I don’t mind Jade losing the way she did really. It could’ve been a bit more legit but plays into her character being overconfident then finally got burned. They badly needed to get that title off her and hopefully move onto better things. I could also see her fire Sterling.
- Tag title match was overbooked fun.
- Unsanctioned match was disappointing. Literally what was the point in Sabu coming back? JAS selling fearing this pensioner with the most awkward top rope bump since the Snoop splash. Ending was lame too.
- Ladder match was okay apart from the thumb weirdness.
- Hayter was still heavily protected in defeat and looking forward to seeing the return match live in Wembley.
- Tag title match was by far the match of the night though. Sucks that MJF got injured but at least he’ll have time to heal and can still promo til then.

[Nash Diesel]

Jade lost in a way that still made her look "strong" and she lost to the person most of us figured she would lose it to.

[MTR]

Yeah I am good with the loss. It didn't hurt Jade and gives a returning Stat a run with a title.

I didn't watch Double or Nothing but saw a lot of highlights on TikTok. Didn't see highlights of Cross beating Hater so I need to go find some highlights of that. Wish I could have seen the show. At this point going to put some money to the side for Forbidden Door.

[Badger]

I was watching the Don Callis/JR sit-down interview a “Youtube Exclusive” about why he turned on Omega and the backstory of their relationship. Essentially boils down to Omega wasting his time away with the Bucks instead of being the God he used to be.

Really good stuff but why couldn’t they do this on TV? 12 minutes long but they could’ve at least split it up between shows to save TV space. Fans watching the shows should be seeing that to marry up with the story instead of a giveaway on YT they might not know about.

[Nash Diesel]

I was watching the Don Callis/JR sit-down interview a “Youtube Exclusive” about why he turned on Omega and the backstory of their relationship. Essentially boils down to Omega wasting his time away with the Bucks instead of being the God he used to be.

Really good stuff but why couldn’t they do this on TV? 12 minutes long but they could’ve at least split it up between shows to save TV space. Fans watching the shows should be seeing that to marry up with the story instead of a giveaway on YT they might not know about.

Because they know the majority of their fans will have seen it just like you did. The WWE is the only company that imo still has real casual fans. AEW and the rest haven't reached the Ringling Brothers Circus level that WWE has with their fanbase.