All Elite Wrestling

[Donald]

Hope they have a surprise debut next week so the number gets over 1 million again.

Or maybe Tony can announce he's bought GLOW.

[Bert]

I'm still disappointed we didn't get the last season of GLOW.

[Bert]

I think they're pretty happy to be #1 of the night tho.

Do the numbers get better than #1?

[Badger]

Regal’s got serious health issues according to Meltzer which he’s covered in Jericho’s podcast.

Hopefully an exaggeration by Meltzer, depends what was said on the podcast.

[Bert]

Talk is Jericho is out Wednesday. Sounds like it's probably his heart.

[Bert]

Athena and Jade are going back and forth on Twitter.

Seems likely she'll answer the open challenge. They'll be in Texas.

[Donald]

I think they're pretty happy to be #1 of the night tho.

Do the numbers get better than #1?

Well it depends. Sometimes movies come out and the number 1 movie will make under $10m, which really isn't that impressive.

[Bert]

Movies and TV are different things.

[Donald]

Movies and TV are different things.

True. #1 on cable is impressive.

[Nash Diesel]

#1 on cable
.40 in 18-49, 20% increase in female 18-49
945,000

Nerd


True. #1 on cable is impressive.

I guess for 2022 when it's clear that being #1 and not even getting a million viewers is enough to care. 20 years ago we would've thought wrestling was dead if only 950,000 people watched Raw.

[Nash Diesel]

Movies and TV are different things.

Of course they are, but that's not what he's saying. He's saying that just because you're #1 in something doesn't mean it's great. If you're the champion of a bush league in Champaign, IL that doesn't mean you're one of the best in the business.

[Bert]

But that's a false equivalence.

#1 on cable is #1 on cable. There's no way to do better than #1. That's my point.

[Donald]

But that's a false equivalence.

#1 on cable is #1 on cable. There's no way to do better than #1. That's my point.

Ok, but what if only one person watched cable, and they happened to watch Dynamite, is being #1 still impressive?

[Nash Diesel]

But that's a false equivalence.

#1 on cable is #1 on cable. There's no way to do better than #1. That's my point.

Look...it's not about being better. It's about thinking being #1 on cable when you can't even break a million matters.

Hey, whatever makes YOU and the other AEW apologists happy that's cool. I don't give a shit if they were 20th I'd still watch but I'm not going to parade around these tiny numbers when they're nothing. I feel bad for the shows that couldn't beat them they suck too.

[Bert]

Ok, but what if only one person watched cable, and they happened to watch Dynamite, is being #1 still impressive?

Does only 1 person watch cable?

Why does this illogical hypothetical question matter at all?

[Bert]

You're both literally saying "well if things were different this wouldn't matter" instead of applying to the reality of TV today. #1 is #1.

[Tyrone]

Tyrone dick don't get hard over something being #1 in ratings. It could be #3,941 but if I liked it that's all I care about.

[Donald]

is that live viewings? I wonder what the numbers are like with DVR viewing. Does DVR viewing only count if someone watches it? Cause I DVR Dyanmite but I'm not about to go watch it.

[VHS]

I record Dynamite on tape. Still the way to go.

[Nash Diesel]

You're both literally saying "well if things were different this wouldn't matter" instead of applying to the reality of TV today. #1 is #1.

I'm not saying if things were different this wouldn't matter. I'm literally saying these numbers DO NOT MATTER. I don't give a shit if you're #1 in cable and can't get a million viewers consistently. A million isn't even a good number.

Not to mention, why are you even giving a shit about a pointless way of measuring viewers??? Most of us don't watch this shit live.

It just goes back to you kids wanting there to be a war between AEW and WWE and 20+ years ago we used to measure dicks with tv ratings. 20+ years later that method doesn't work. You're actually making AEW look like an even bigger joke.

[VHS]

The rating has always been an important indicator. It's not the end all be all, but it's just one aspect that shows the current pulse of something in comparison to others. That said, AEW being #1 is something to be proud of.

[Mazer]

Ratings are still 1 indicator, but it's not anywhere near where it was 20 years ago. Now there are numbers for recordings, and these don't account for streaming services. Days of the week matter less. Friday used to be a death spot. Now Smackdown is the most watched wrestling show.

Live numbers vs. recordings are significant. Minutes viewed is actually accounted for. Fucking shit. Engagement and trending data actually counts.

It's a lot less simplistic than it was when it was "here's our rating, so here's what advertisers get billed"


It's still better to beat other shows than to ....not beat other shows.

[Nash Diesel]

It's an outdated method and shouldn't have people bragging like it's something to be proud of.

[Mazer]

So is forum posting, and yet here we are.

[Nash Diesel]

So is forum posting, and yet here we are.

I don't see too many people bragging about it though lol. Other than Simon. And he dead.

[Donald]

Rip

[Mazer]

I don't see too many people bragging about it though lol. Other than Simon. And he dead.

I just bragged about it. The other person didn't seem to care. But there we were.

[Sasori]

Regal’s got serious health issues according to Meltzer which he’s covered in Jericho’s podcast.

Hopefully an exaggeration by Meltzer, depends what was said on the podcast.


Talk is Jericho is out Wednesday. Sounds like it's probably his heart.

Regal himself is refuting this. Says he's healthier than he's been in years.

https://twitter.com/RealKingRegal/status/1502346915425529861

[Badger]

Meltzer in getting it wrong shocker.

[Donald]

Luckily Regal can't ramble on Twitter.

[Mazer]

Regal would dominate our Ramble thread. We'd all be constantly charmed.

[Badger]

We’d probably rename it the Regal thread.

[Mazer]

I tell you if Regal posted in that thread....there would be a cause for forum bragging.


Even more than when I was pronounced Rajah's Greatest all-time gamesman.

[Psycho666Soldier]

I think the main measure of AEW's success will always be how the network perceive them. We can argue about numbers all we want, but the contracts offered and the spots given are the true tale. So far they've given full faith in AEW with the last TV deal and getting the move TBS. In that sense, they have survival security and are a success until the next contract deal comes up. If they're still on TBS for at least the same amount of money, then it's still a success. Regardless of how it compares to WWE.

[Mazer]

It's a good point. The WWE comparisons, other than quality of product, are a bit silly.


WWE is a global brand with interests that extend beyond weekly TV.


There's no business comparison. AEW on a business metric, should really about whether they are establishing long-term sustainability. And being a valuable partner to Turner broadcasting, which one would guess they are, is a huge part of that

[Bert]

Sounds like Discovery is going to buy Warner Media so it'll be interesting to see how they view AEW.

[Horatio]

Sounds like Discovery is going to buy Warner Media so it'll be interesting to see how they view AEW.

Sounds good. Discovery may open the gates of heaven for Mark Briscoe. Dude looks like some Discovery-channel shit.

[BGMaverick]

Allin is absolutely mystified by Jeff Hardy lol.

Good debut for Strickland. He’ll be a solid addition and attraction with the ability to gain more momentum over time.

[VHS]

If the ratings were horrible, they’d matter a lot eh?

[Psycho666Soldier]

that wardlow segment was .... very disappointing.

i really wanted the turn to be more than him leaving a ring for CM Punk and cutting an extremely rehearsed promo. i wanted warldow to knock out MJF in the middle of the ring while MJF is running him down.

I imagine it's bait. Wardlow thinks he's done then MJF screws him next week.

[Bert]

If the ratings were horrible, they’d matter a lot eh?

Is this referring to Rampage fast nationals?

They're probably 500k if other fast nationals are anything to go by.

Next week's Rampage ratings will be terrible because it's not on til 1030PM CST. I'm not sure I'll even watch.

[Donald]

Is this referring to Rampage fast nationals?

They're probably 500k if other fast nationals are anything to go by.

Next week's Rampage ratings will be terrible because it's not on til 1030PM CST. I'm not sure I'll even watch.

We AEW loyalists must tune in to watch. Let's support Tony!

[Bert]

Tony Nese? He was on this weeks, you missed it. Good match though.

[Nash Diesel]

I think the main measure of AEW's success will always be how the network perceive them. We can argue about numbers all we want, but the contracts offered and the spots given are the true tale. So far they've given full faith in AEW with the last TV deal and getting the move TBS. In that sense, they have survival security and are a success until the next contract deal comes up. If they're still on TBS for at least the same amount of money, then it's still a success. Regardless of how it compares to WWE.


It's a good point. The WWE comparisons, other than quality of product, are a bit silly.


WWE is a global brand with interests that extend beyond weekly TV.


There's no business comparison. AEW on a business metric, should really about whether they are establishing long-term sustainability. And being a valuable partner to Turner broadcasting, which one would guess they are, is a huge part of that

It'd be incredible if AEW and some (keyword some) of their loyalists to stop mentioning WWE and worrying about a company that isn't really in the same lane. But that kind of thing appeals to a large % of that audience the same way it did for ECW fans. Most of us who grew up in the 90's that weren't still shitting in our pants in 1997 took pleasure in that 4th wall breaking aspect of ECW. The ugly idiot in the front with his signs breaking kayfabe, a fuckin legend right? Turn on ECW and there's the sign guy with "Big Josh>Doink the Clown" or something stupid lol.

It's obvious that when you're someone with Tony Khan's bank account that these little wins are good enough. He dumped 70 million into a video game. It'll hopefully be better than TNA's. Everytime I hear "It'll be like No Mercy!" No it won't. You can't replicate that game it was a vibe it wasn't just the gameplay. Throwing that controller like a boomerang at your homeboy for using the joystick to kick out of a pin, good luck.



Sounds like Discovery is going to buy Warner Media so it'll be interesting to see how they view AEW.

I heard that they're interested in taking AEW off TBS and putting them on TLC.

[Ringo]

Don't think it was posted yet. Danielson interview with Meltzer and some other guy. Really great listen. I think you can make a good case for Danielson being the GOAT at this point and it certainly helps that he's such a likeable guy who still, after 20 years doing it, gets so excited about wrestling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlpNekLmuts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHu5CBoP8qo

[Nash Diesel]

Definitely think someone could try and make a case for Danielson as the greatest of all time. At least from an in-ring aspect. Me personally I put him in there with the likes of HBK, Bret, Angle, Styles. I wouldn't say GOAT because A-I don't think his entire body of work is better than those names I mentioned and a few others I don't have time to list. B-When dudes start factoring in things like promos, merch, ppv buys, house gates, impact, etc. It's hard to look at Danielson and see him on a true Mt Rushmore or a strong % saying he's the greatest.

IMO though, he's this generation's Bret. Maybe not the draw, it's a different time, but when you think about how even as a heel people still at the very least respect him and know he's going to deliver in the ring. The feud might be dumb, but he's going to deliver. Just like with Adam Page. Stupid Dark Order shit but he made all those guys look 100x better than they really are. Just like Bret did wrestling the pirate, Hakushi, old Lawler, etc.

[Ringo]

I'd have him quite far ahead of HBK, Angle and Styles personally. For me he's probably moved ahead of the likes of Bret at this point, as much as I love Bret. He's in the conversation with probably Flair, Terry Funk, Misawa, and Tenryu.

[Psycho666Soldier]

In my opinion, he's at least the greatest of the last 15 or so years and that easily puts him in the same conversation. When it comes purely to in-ring, easily top 3 all-time and probably my personal Top 1. Even considering promos and such, if I look at the height of his ability by that parameter, he's soaring high above a lot of people.

[VHS]

Bryan is so good that I don’t even compare him to HBK/Angle/Bret etc. I compare them to him.

[Nash Diesel]

I'd have him quite far ahead of HBK, Angle and Styles personally. For me he's probably moved ahead of the likes of Bret at this point, as much as I love Bret. He's in the conversation with probably Flair, Terry Funk, Misawa, and Tenryu.




In my opinion, he's at least the greatest of the last 15 or so years and that easily puts him in the same conversation. When it comes purely to in-ring, easily top 3 all-time and probably my personal Top 1. Even considering promos and such, if I look at the height of his ability by that parameter, he's soaring high above a lot of people.

I would put him #2 only behind AJ Styles in the last 15 years. I will no doubt admit there are matches in ROH and in other countries that I haven't seen that some people might be factoring in for Danielson (and even Styles). I definitely think there are better people on the mic but he's no jabroni.

There are a few different ways to approach who the GOAT is but I don't think you'll ever truly be able to call 1 wrestler the greatest of all time. Many will say Hulk Hogan is the greatest of all time. If the whole entire business is a work it's damn near impossible to gauge like you could with basketball. There are no stats that you can't nitpick. Roman Reigns, 800 days as champion. Compare that to when Hulk Hogan was at his 800th day as WWF champion.

Danielson, imo, should be considered one of the greatest. Anyone who doesn't include him in the conversation needs to watch his work.

[VHS]

Bryan is hella overrated.

[Donald]

I agree. Top 100 of past 15 years sure. Top 5? Nah

[Nash Diesel]

It's very subjective. I mean we had to have one of us narrow it down to the last 15 years to justify even giving him GOAT status.

Personally I think he's one of the best of all time when the bell rings. But again, that's subjective. I also think Hulk Hogan is one of the best of all time when the bell rings. Wrestling has evolved too much to be able to seriously call someone the greatest. Greatest at what? Selling tickets? Executing moves? This is not a real sport it just has the name of one in it.

[Donald]

Greatest at having a terrible beard

[Badger]

Greatest at having a terrible beard

Okay too far…:nono:

[Donald]

Okay too far…:nono:

Well it's no Strowman beard.

[Bert]

Sounds like Revolution is going to be the second biggest ppv behind All Out 2021.

Meltzer says minimum 165-170k buys.

[Mazer]

If you like AEW and Street Fighter, maybe this is for you:


https://media.gamestop.com/i/gamestop/11152413/Jazwares-All-Elite-Wrestling-x-Street-Fighter-Nick-Jackson-Ken-6-in-Action-Figure-GameStop-Exclusive?$pdp2x$

[Bert]

Why's he grimacing? Did he just watch a Ruby Soho match?

[Nash Diesel]

It's the look he used to give Kanyon when it was his turn to shower.

[Mazer]

Why's he grimacing? Did he just watch a Ruby Soho match?

I think he just realized it's Ab and cardio day.




I kid....I kid.




We have fun here.

[Nash Diesel]

That's the face they make when their Dad comes in at 1am on a school night to "read from the Bible"

[Mazer]

Well that went dark.

[Badger]

Why's he grimacing? Did he just watch a Ruby Soho match?

Maybe his belt’s too tight?

[VHS]

Nash again reinforcing that he is indeed not a homosexual.

[Nash Diesel]

Nash again reinforcing that he is indeed not a homosexual.

Nothing I said implies sexual orientation whatsoever.

[Nash Diesel]

Well that went dark.

I hate their family.

[Mazer]

Honestly don't know much about the family.

[Nash Diesel]

Honestly don't know much about the family.

Keep it that way. Imagine if Proud Bert and Tainted fucked, you'd get the Young Bucks and their family.

[VHS]

Nothing I said implies sexual orientation whatsoever.

A few moments lateurr...


Keep it that way. Imagine if Proud Bert and Tainted fucked, you'd get the Young Bucks and their family.

[Nash Diesel]

Remind me to never go fishing with you because the more you try the worse it gets lol.

For one, I don't see things as gay/straight. For two....Their personalities is what I'm talking about. You'd think as progressive as you pretend to be you wouldn't succumb to the outdated mentality you possess.

VHS, don't be Randy Marsh playing Wheel of Fortune looking for something that isn't there and coming out even worse than before.

[Donald]

That was the last South Park episode I ever watched.

[Nash Diesel]

Should Mox and Danielson take the tag titles off Jurassic Express?


That was the last South Park episode I ever watched.

Oh man this explains a lot. You need my HBO Max login to catch up??

[Donald]

Oh man this explains a lot. You need my HBO Max login to catch up??

In what way does it explain a lot? I have Paramount +, I think it's on there.

That was from back in the day when I would buy episodes off iTunes. Think I had two or three episodes from that season downloaded.

[VHS]

Remind me to never go fishing with you because the more you try the worse it gets lol.

For one, I don't see things as gay/straight. For two....Their personalities is what I'm talking about. You'd think as progressive as you pretend to be you wouldn't succumb to the outdated mentality you possess.

VHS, don't be Randy Marsh playing Wheel of Fortune looking for something that isn't there and coming out even worse than before.

How would we go fishing when you won't even join the DISCORD??

https://discord.gg/ZQPaXFGQNm

[Nash Diesel]

In what way does it explain a lot? I have Paramount +, I think it's on there.

That was from back in the day when I would buy episodes off iTunes. Think I had two or three episodes from that season downloaded.

Only the special episodes you'll need to hit up HBO Max to get seasons 1-25 or whatever. Maybe Comedy Central.com has all of them as well.

[Bert]

https://youtu.be/JHLrwNn-nQI

[Nash Diesel]

Someone other than Bert or Psycho tell me why anyone should give 2 shits and a fuck about Scorpio Sky? I've NEVER understood the appeal. I've been watching this guy for probably 10-15 years, never saw it. Some reason AEW sees something that nobody ever really saw.

I think my problem is I'm looking at this like an Ethan Page v. Scorpio Sky situation. It's like if Vince went with Anvil instead of Bret.

[Psycho666Soldier]

Someone other than Bert or Psycho tell me why anyone should give 2 shits and a fuck about Scorpio Sky? I've NEVER understood the appeal. I've been watching this guy for probably 10-15 years, never saw it. Some reason AEW sees something that nobody ever really saw.

I think my problem is I'm looking at this like an Ethan Page v. Scorpio Sky situation. It's like if Vince went with Anvil instead of Bret.

I've always had a soft spot for Scorp and I think he's deserving of the occasional spot. But even I'm baffled why they chose him over Page.

TK trying to wash his hands of racism :lol:

[Bert]

What's weird is it seems like Ethan Page is being setup to turn face by Scorpio not mentioning him and I don't see that working.

I liked Sky's promo, he's way better at pretapes than live. It comes off a lot more smooth and natural when he's not doing a weird promo voice.

[Donald]

I think AEW should hold a show against a WWE Premium Live Event. I bet AEW would win.

[Nash Diesel]

I've always had a soft spot for Scorp and I think he's deserving of the occasional spot. But even I'm baffled why they chose him over Page.

TK trying to wash his hands of racism :lol:

I honestly haven't been a fan of the TNT title booking since Darby Allin had it. Miro wasn't too bad except the only feud he had was that jobber feud with Sammy's homeboy. Cody winning made no sense, even worse was the interim TNT title situation. Now it's on a guy who I honestly don't get.

I understood SCU. Daniels and Kazarian are incredible, you have Scorpio Sky in the mix for whatever reason but he didn't totally suck he was just....there. I watch him wrestle that 2005 indie style and I'm just not really impressed. You're pretending this is the "TV" title, showcasing it weekly and you put it on a guy who's as boring as boring can be.

TK putting this on Scorpio because he's black as a way to apologize would be pretty funny. It's already cringe that they released that "rap" album lol.

[Bert]

Talk is Jericho with Regal is really good.

I need to read his book.

[Nash Diesel]

Regal is a class act. Another guy I'm shocked is still with us.

[Bert]

https://i.imgur.com/tuk00gl.png

WWE says they're not a monopoly because AEW is doing good. Lol.

[Donald]

Wait until they find out Vince actually owns AEW>

[Nash Diesel]

https://i.imgur.com/tuk00gl.png

WWE says they're not a monopoly because AEW is doing good. Lol.

You can laugh all you want but it's true. Fans like you are always talking about how AEW is so fucking incredible. All that talent that Tony can afford to pay on par if not more than WWE.

I honestly don't see how anyone could ever consider WWE a monopoly. Do they consider Pepsi a monopoly? The WWE if anything have saved the wrestling industry. Their ability to maintain a small presence in the mainstream since 1999 has made it possible for pro wrestling to even exist on a respectable level.

[Bert]

The Hardy's vs Private Party tonight.

[Horatio]

Maybe they got rid of all of Triple H's dudes just to prove they're not a monopoly.
"Steiners and Sikoas. We're a family business!"

[VHS]

Omgosh, finally able to watch AEW live after forever. Hop onto the discord come showtime!

https://discord.gg/ZQPaXFGQNm

[NWo4LifeOr2Years]

I've always had a soft spot for Scorp and I think he's deserving of the occasional spot. But even I'm baffled why they chose him over Page.

TK trying to wash his hands of racism :lol:

well, as for charges of racism, Big Swole needs to understand smoking your weed with the boss doesn't get you in with a promotion; talent does. Besides, the boss doesn't place as much importance on weed as you do, Swole.......:zzz:

Now Scorpio, I expect he's the AEW version of Stan Stasiak (the classic translational champion), due to get squashEd by Wardlo.

Of course, as they go to hand Wardlow the belt, MJF will interrupt and point out that stipulation in Wardlow's contract that any championship he wins reverts to the possession of MJF.

[Nash Diesel]

The Hardy's vs Private Party tonight.

Shocker

[Horatio]

Jeff going more bomb than swan is a plus, but damn, that's a huge guy to have landing on yur tum-tum.

[Tainted Eclipse]

Jeff going more bomb than swan is a plus, but damn, that's a huge guy to have landing on yur tum-tum.

yeah, the two he's hit looked nasty. i think the guys just don't get how close to the turnbuckle they need to lay to set it up right for him.

[Donald]

I believe Thunder Rosa is Spanish for Thunder Rose

[VHS]

So happy and proud of Thunder ❤️

[BGMaverick]

It’ll be hilarious when Jericho removes names from Matt Lenard and Angelo Parker, so they eventually go by Lenard and Parker. Lean into the bit.

[Horatio]

yeah, the two he's hit looked nasty. i think the guys just don't get how close to the turnbuckle they need to lay to set it up right for him.

I actually figured his back can't stand to hit the mat like it used to. It seems like he bombed the last few times I saw him do it in WWE, but of course, I'm not an expert witness.

There did seem to be some awkwardness setting up for that finishing stretch tonight though.

Edit - speaking of back issues, anyone who doesn't appreciate all of the slams Scorpio Sky took tonight for our viewing pleasure is not a friend of mine, unless I say so.

[Dreyski]

Wait until they find out Vince actually owns AEW>

If that was true, Thunder Rosa would have lost in her hometown.

Serena Deeb needs to move on from Shida and enter either title picture ASAP.

[Ringo]

Loved Darby vs. The Butcher!

[Bert]

I'm excited for Swerve and Keith Lee vs Ricky Starks and Powerhouse Hobbs.

[Ringo]

Rampage was a fun hour of wrestling. Really enjoyed Darby/Butcher, especially Darby getting the count out win. Good angle to end the show with Swerve saving Lee from Team Taz & The Acclaimed. Not keen on Red Velvet beating Hirsch but they're both still highly ranked and I imagine title shots are coming for both. House of Black looked dominant over Bear Country & Fuego and the finish was absolutely nuts.

Team Taz vs. Swerve & Lee
Jericho & Garcia vs. Silver & Reynolds
AFO vs. Sting, Allin & The Hardys
QT Marshall presenting Hook with a certificate

all look to be set up for next week.

[mth]

AEW needs to calm down with the thumbtacks.

[Ringo]

Yeah, I love the violence but there's been a hell of a lot of it lately. Think they should definitely dial it back for a while.

[Tainted Eclipse]

at this point it's just a stale gimmick that feels like they're checking a box. if thumbtacks are going to matter they need to be very rare and they need to be sold cinematically when used. now THIS is a thumbtacks spot:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sbjsdVzJSA

[mth]

It's probably a bad thing when the part I winced at the most during Rosa/Britt's thumbtack stuff was Aubrey Edwards dropping down onto them and slapping out the three count right in the thick of them. Seems like most bumps onto them just result in a small handful in an ass cheek.

[VHS]

It's probably a bad thing when the part I winced at the most during Rosa/Britt's thumbtack stuff was Aubrey Edwards dropping down onto them and slapping out the three count right in the thick of them. Seems like most bumps onto them just result in a small handful in an ass cheek.

I saw that, that right there made me wince. Ay yay yay, not much of an Aubrey fan but she was a trooper there.

[Ringo]

AEW and DDT establishing a working relationship is quite exciting. In many circles, DDT have superseded New Japan as the premier Japanese wrestling organisation over the last couple of years (critically I mean, not in terms of popularity). Takeshita already did a couple of AEW matches last year (or the year before, I forget) but I'm interested in seeing some of the other talents I've heard about but not seen much of.

[Badger]

Cornette will be overjoyed by that news. :lol:

[Nash Diesel]

I'm trying not to overthink Scorpio Sky's TNT title victory, or the fact that he gave Wardlow his first pinfall loss.....but it's kind of strange that Ricochet won the IC title the Friday before.

When I overthink the title win for Scorpio I wonder if maybe he was supposed to beat Cody. But then the whole Covid thing that created an interim to Sammy and Cody not renewing his contract created this glitch in TK's masterplan. Remember, supposedly everything is planned out in advance. But I also think it's kind of weird this older, slower, less charismatic version of Ricochet won the title a few days after Super Saiyan Ricochet won his.


It's probably a bad thing when the part I winced at the most during Rosa/Britt's thumbtack stuff was Aubrey Edwards dropping down onto them and slapping out the three count right in the thick of them. Seems like most bumps onto them just result in a small handful in an ass cheek.

The ref having to count on tacks has always been the most brutal part for me. Like Mick Foley said, the idea is to get as many tacks in you at one time so when you get those 1-2 in the hand it has to fuckin hurt lol.

[Bert]

April 15th they're in Garland, Texas for Battle of The Belts so I expect Athena to show up there or have her match with Jade there.

Rosa did an interview sounding like a mark where she said she wanted the mariachi's for her entrance because the last time she saw them was Brock Lesnar in 2004 and he was "making fun of Mexicans."

[Nash Diesel]

Well that's your AEW. A bunch of soft ass marks lol. I LOVE Thunder Rosa but lost a shit ton of respect after hearing that she actually said that.

I mean....She wasn't exactly wrong but context is everything. He was out there making fun of Mexicans, to get under Eddie Guerrero's skin. This wasn't like Vince Russo booking WCW with his homeboy Ed Swastika.

[Donald]

I didn't realize thunder was Spanish for thin skinned.

[Bert]

Well that's your AEW. A bunch of soft ass marks lol. I LOVE Thunder Rosa but lost a shit ton of respect after hearing that she actually said that.

I mean....She wasn't exactly wrong but context is everything. He was out there making fun of Mexicans, to get under Eddie Guerrero's skin. This wasn't like Vince Russo booking WCW with his homeboy Ed Swastika.

And you know Eddie had no issue with it. He was always about the business.

[Nash Diesel]

I swear there was something not too long ago with Thunder Rosa randomly virtue signaling a situation. Watch it'll be the Nia Rose stuff and I'll look like an asshole but I swear there was something recent. I thought it was WWE related though.

Either way....Just doesn't make any sense to say that stuff. I mean, was Eddie making fun of Latinos all those years playing a parody of Cheech Marin since 1997??

[Bert]

Punk vs Dax Harwood to start Dynamite.

[Nash Diesel]

Dax Harwood....and they bitch about the names/ideas WWE had for them.

Dax Harwood is the CM Punk of your generation Bert. Oh Shawn didn't suck my dick after a match ohhhh. Notice the other FTR guy didn't bitch, the one that sucker punched the Bret Hart attacker.

$20 in internet money says he made up that entire story about him talking to Shawn.

[Bert]

They should just be called Bald and Hair.

[Nash Diesel]

Can't be any worse than Hook.

[Tainted Eclipse]

damn they fit a SHIT load in before that first commercial

[Bert]

Dax is a really good wrestler.

[Tainted Eclipse]

dax has an awesome match, cuts a hell of a promo and essentially turns face. hell of a night for him.

[BGMaverick]

A very pro wrestling opener. FTR working as faces is a weird concept to accept but I’m sure they’ll pull it off.

I really don’t know who is crazier out of the Hardys, Allin, and Sting. They’re all wild.

Good stuff from Julia on the outside during the tag match. Violent Fathers was my choice for the name but Blackpool CC works. Combat Club on its own would be money.

Didn’t feel like it was a good initial showing for Thunder as champ.

Felt like that really front loaded that show and lost momentum as the second hour continued, but it was still a good watch.

[VHS]

Dax Harwood....and they bitch about the names/ideas WWE had for them.

Dax Harwood is the CM Punk of your generation Bert. Oh Shawn didn't suck my dick after a match ohhhh. Notice the other FTR guy didn't bitch, the one that sucker punched the Bret Hart attacker.

$20 in internet money says he made up that entire story about him talking to Shawn.

Straight to dick sucking with you again.

[Ringo]

Dax is a really good wrestler.

He's phenomenal, can't wait to see him vs. Punk.

[Nash Diesel]

Straight to dick sucking with you again.

One of the best feelings in the world but I don't expect you to understand. Hollowed out fruit does not count in 2022 buddy.

[Nash Diesel]

Is Sting the Terry Funk of AEW?

[Badger]

Is Sting the Terry Funk of AEW?

Something like that! :lol:

While his bumps have been entertaining, it’s also a bit uncomfortable at times and do wish he would slow down

[MTR]

Yeah some of the bumps scare me for the guy. Even my wife was saying that last night as we were watching the tornado tag. She also said the same thing about Jeff Hardy. :lol:

Listening to Danhausen on the unrestricted podcast and he is in character and it is lovely. :lol:

[Nash Diesel]

Danhausen reminds me of this kid we grew up with that was a little off and this is what he would've been as a wrestler. Everything from the smile to the odd finger movements and hunched over walk reminds me of this dude. Dan is younger so it's not him but shit....

[JP]

That first hour of Dynamite is as perfect an hour of a wrestling show that I've seen in decades.

[Donald]

How many wrestling shows have you seen in decades?

[Nash Diesel]

lol no shit. Even for someone like JP that's just a ridiculous statement.

[Donald]

Think it's a bit silly to be doing Swanton's off of ledges on a regular episode of Dynamite. I think you should save that stuff for the PPV.

I did like that tatted guy with the cool mustache.

[Bert]

1,046,000 viewers
with a .41 in the 18 to 39

Jeff Hardy? Punk?

[Donald]

I think it's definitely the return of Punk.

[JP]

How many wrestling shows have you seen in decades?

Too many.

[Tainted Eclipse]

i think i remember the 7/14 dynamite having an incredible first hour that i thought was the best in show history. but i think this might have been the second best first hour i can remember. both in austin, too.

[Nash Diesel]

1,046,000 viewers
with a .41 in the 18 to 39

Jeff Hardy? Punk?

The entire roster, not just old WWE guys.

[Ringo]

lol no shit. Even for someone like JP that's just a ridiculous statement.

Literally every post you make is a ridiculous statement :lol:

[Nash Diesel]

Literally every post you make is a ridiculous statement :lol:

Wow that was super original Ringo. Please, give us more!

[Donald]

Octopus' garden?

[Mazer]

1,046,000 viewers
with a .41 in the 18 to 39

Jeff Hardy? Punk?

The curse of Cody was lifted.

Likely his new contract became official. Then-being a good fella-he lifted the curse.

[Bert]

AEW filed a trademark for Undisputed Elite. The hand gesture is coming back.

It also sounds like the video game will be called AEW: Fight Forever because that was their other trademark.

[Nash Diesel]

More originality from the people who were supposedly held back by the people who created these gimmicks.

[Bert]

I missed the interview where they said that. I'm not sure I've heard Cole ever say anything bad about WWE.

[Tyrone]

More originality from the people who were supposedly held back by the people who created these gimmicks.

Lol. They should've gone with Undisputed All Elite. They would be really over if they ever did shows in UAE. If this is the actual name I wonder how long that took to brainstorm.

[Morrison]

I missed the interview where they said that. I'm not sure I've heard Cole ever say anything bad about WWE.

same. most nxt/wwe people who are now in AEW haven't shit talked nxt very much, if at all. any gripes tend to have the main roster distinction pretty front and center.

[Nash Diesel]

I missed the interview where they said that. I'm not sure I've heard Cole ever say anything bad about WWE.

Oh so Adam Cole is the only person that was ever in Undisputed Era? Weird.

[Donald]

Who's the new female talent debuting tonight? Ember Moon probably? Toni Storm could be a possibility.

[Bert]

Who's the new female talent debuting tonight? Ember Moon probably? Toni Storm could be a possibility.

I don't even think they're debuting tonight it's just news on a debut.

April 15th is the Battle For The Belts special and they're in Garland Texas which is Athena's hometown so I would bet on her.

[Bert]

Oh so Adam Cole is the only person that was ever in Undisputed Era? Weird.

Did Robert Fish or O O O O Reilly have anything to say that I'm unaware of?

[Nash Diesel]

Did Robert Fish or O O O O Reilly have anything to say that I'm unaware of?

Yes. The one thing I like about you Bert is that you pretend to know everything. It's probably the best trait of your generation.

[Bert]

Ok so where's the interview where they said they were held back because of their gimmick.

[Nash Diesel]

Who's the new female talent debuting tonight? Ember Moon probably? Toni Storm could be a possibility.

God I hope not Ember Moon. Zero charisma. Has a great finisher but so did Reno from Natural Born Thrillers.
Bert will definitely be over the moon about her despite never caring one bit about her in NXT/WWE.

[Bert]

I cared about her in NXT. Not as much on the main roster.

[Nash Diesel]

I cared about her in NXT. Not as much on the main roster.

She was worse in NXT. mark

[VHS]

I don't know about Fish, but KOR was on Renee Paquette's podcast and he did say HHH compared NXT to broadway and that it's where ppl really get to shine. He spoke fondly of NXT, but detested NXT 2.0.

[Nash Diesel]

He detested 2.0 despite being in the main event the whole 3 weeks he was around for it.

[Bert]

The Bunny vs a new hire being signed on Wednesday to qualify for The Owen. Maybe it's Toni Storm. Her non-compete is up Tuesday I read.

[Horatio]

He detested 2.0 despite being in the main event the whole 3 weeks he was around for it.

KOR cares not
Not for shine
His heart is dark
And so, his art

*does air-guitar*

[Donald]

The Gunn sons look like Billy Gunn clones.

[Bert]

https://youtu.be/fBgCYKjX19M

[BGMaverick]

I imagine the Ass Boys are replacing FTR in The Pinnacle.

[Bert]

Moxley vs Jay Lethal and Punk vs Max Caster announced for tonight.

I wonder what Caster can say that MJF hasn't already covered.

[Mazer]

He detested 2.0 despite being in the main event the whole 3 weeks he was around for it.

I would question Kyle hating NXT Classic. But the 2.0 doesn't necessarily ring false.


I've been in the Main Event of several things I detested.

[Nash Diesel]

I would question Kyle hating NXT Classic. But the 2.0 doesn't necessarily ring false.


I've been in the Main Event of several things I detested.

Yeah but did he even have enough time in 2.0 to talk that shit? He was on his way out regardless. They tried to give Von Wagner the rub by putting him with a main event developmental guy like Kyle.

Just par for the course. Imagine being the type of fan they cater to that just like to hear WWE get slighted. It's strange.

[Donald]

I wonder when Roderick Strong will be in AEW.

[mth]

KOR got more than he deserved in NXT. Dude doesn't have it. Wish Roddy followed his boys to AEW.

[Nash Diesel]

All I'm going to say is that there was a noticeable dip in viewership and quality overall when Trips overpushed Undisputed Era for 2 years.

[Donald]

I liked their theme song, not much more beyond that. Think I liked Bobby Fish the most out of all of them.

[Mazer]

All I'm going to say is that there was a noticeable dip in viewership and quality overall when Trips overpushed Undisputed Era for 2 years.

...we both know that's not all you're going to say about UE.

[Bert]

https://i.imgur.com/vuwB4cq.jpeg

:lol:

People that haven't watched Dynamite recently are going to be very confused.

Finders keepers.

[Nash Diesel]

Wow look at how original AEW is lol. I guess I can't complain. I'm not sure what gimmicks AEW have created on their own to be 100% honest. I guess Wardlow? So if he showed up to the WWE as Henry Godwin's cousin idk if I would be down with that. Undisputed Era is the most interesting thing any of them ever did so it makes sense.

They just fucking suck so much Mazer I can't help it man they're terrible. Every time a company put their chips on Adam Cole they started to tank. Ring Of Honor, remember them? Had a great thing going until Adam Cole won the title, 3 times.

[Bert]

Danielson vs Wheeler Yuta tonight.

[Nash Diesel]

I liked their theme song, not much more beyond that. Think I liked Bobby Fish the most out of all of them.

I liked him because for the 2-3 minutes he wasn't injured, we got to see that sweet mustache lol. Outside of that you had 4 vanilla midgets playing pro wrestler because Triple H wanted to steal the last 10-20 ROH fans.

[Mazer]

They just fucking suck so much Mazer I can't help it man they're terrible. Every time a company put their chips on Adam Cole they started to tank. Ring Of Honor, remember them? Had a great thing going until Adam Cole won the title, 3 times.

But how do you really feel about him?

[Bert]

https://i.imgur.com/AnQKCoz.png

Lmao

[Nash Diesel]

Thankfully only a fraction of the planet cares about pro wrestling and even smaller care about AEW. People think Raw or SD would've improved with this guy on top......Word.

[Nash Diesel]

But how do you really feel about him?

I feel like if I saw them in the streets I wouldn't need more than 30 seconds to dust all 3. I trained for the kumite with Frank Dux.

[Mazer]

I feel like if I saw them in the streets I wouldn't need more than 30 seconds to dust all 3. I trained for the kumite with Frank Dux.

I'm glad you said all 3, because let's leave Roddy Strong out of this.

Let's not lose our fucking minds.

[VHS]

Thankfully only a fraction of the planet cares about pro wrestling and even smaller care about AEW. People think Raw or SD would've improved with this guy on top......Word.

Thankfully it's a fraction, yes. If everyone cared about pro wrestling, this world would be beyond repair.

[Tainted Eclipse]

KOR got more than he deserved in NXT. Dude doesn't have it. Wish Roddy followed his boys to AEW.

Not a fan of Kyle or the whole UE reunion in the Elite angle at all. Was much preferring Bobby fish as a mid card guy having good singles matches.

[VHS]

KOR got more than he deserved in NXT. Dude doesn't have it. Wish Roddy followed his boys to AEW.

During UE's hayday, I was most intrigued by KOR because I thought his moveset was cool and I dunno. I was just curious where's he was going to be in several years. But once the spotlight was on him more I saw that yeah... he was kinda eh.

[mth]

I remember folks being like, "He plays air guitar with the belt!" as though that meant he had charisma shooting out his ass when the reality was, it just meant he actually did something to show a little personality and it just stood out like a sore thumb because everything else about everyone in UE so was fucking beige. And of course, once KOR went solo and got a chance to show some personality...well, yikes.

[Psycho666Soldier]

KOR will always be a dude who can go in the ring but falls flat when exposed to the spotlight too long. He works great as a tag guy and can be a good midcard dude if they just let him wrestle, but I don't think he'll ever be able to do more than that.

[Nash Diesel]

That's UE in a nutshell. 3/4 guys who can go but that's it. When Adam Cole rambles I just laugh. It's pathetic. Where's the personality? Where's the suspension of disbelief? How can anyone take them seriously?

[Mazer]

wait....I thought you were warming up to Adam Cole?


PICK A LANE NASH!

[Tainted Eclipse]

That's UE in a nutshell. 3/4 guys who can go but that's it. When Adam Cole rambles I just laugh. It's pathetic. Where's the personality? Where's the suspension of disbelief? How can anyone take them seriously?

I’m beginning to agree again. I changed by mind on Cole when he debuted and was super hot. I just want people to get over and feel like stars. But the more the spotlight has been shone on him lately the most disappointing it’s been

[mth]

I think Cole can talk, but from what I've seen (NXT run), he just never had anything interesting to say and part of that is because he's just a generic heel with no discernible character. He had one good promo in NXT where he was dunking on Kross and I think that was mostly because he was dunking on Kross otherwise it was all "confidant heel promo #1235". Still makes his mic skills lightyears ahead of the rest of the group.

[MTR]

*looks at UE shirt and walks away*

[VHS]

The word overrated was created for Adam Cole.

[Mazer]

I’m beginning to agree again. I changed by mind on Cole when he debuted and was super hot. I just want people to get over and feel like stars. But the more the spotlight has been shone on him lately the most disappointing it’s been

There's no real story with hangman. it's generic "you have the championship" stuff. Even bringing britt in more would help. Fucking try something.

[Psycho666Soldier]

I’m beginning to agree again. I changed by mind on Cole when he debuted and was super hot. I just want people to get over and feel like stars. But the more the spotlight has been shone on him lately the most disappointing it’s been

I honestly don't think they should have hotshotted him to the title picture. He was hella over, but it's definitely at overexposure time. Should have kept him running through midcard darlings.

[Tainted Eclipse]

it's a terrible program that devalues them both.

[Horatio]

Babay

[Tainted Eclipse]

i love the ass boys

[Bert]

I wonder if we'll get Homicide and Hernandez to even the numbers.

[Nash Diesel]

You know I was very excited for Danielson and this love triangle with Regal and Moxley. But the desire for Danielson to put over these jobbers over the last couple years. IDK. He really lacks the eye for talent. Drew Gulak for example. Terrible.

And by put over I don't mean lose-something a lot of you younger fans have never understood. I mean going back and forth instead of destroying these motherfuckers.

[Donald]

Yawni Storm

[Bert]

Andrade is jacked and he has great chemistry with Darby.

Toni Storm vs Jamie Hayter is going to be a whole lot of cake.

[Tainted Eclipse]

my god jeff is KILLING guys with that swanton

[BGMaverick]

Guess JR wanted to pay respects to Taker by calling Punk’s piledriver a tombstone lol.

This story between Wardlow and MJF went slowly, even by AEW standards, but good on everyone to set it up where the crowd has really been there for Wardlow. Still feels like bizarro world with FTR working more as faces haha.

Fun Will Smith 4 Blackpool Combat Club sign. There’s three simple truths to Danielson matches: they’re going to be no worse than good, he’s going to help make his opponent like a million bucks, and he’s going to stomp the shit out of the head of his opponent. Regal has done a really solid job adding context through his commentary appearances. Yuta has been a project that is developing nicely now that there’s some tangible direction for him.

Going with Undisputed Elite is hilarious. The tape on the nameplates was a move that felt very on brand for those guys. KOR just doesn’t click at the stick. It’s not happening.

They hit you with the hesitation move, thinking Marina was going to be a big move for the division and then crossed you over with Toni being a debut tonight. This division needed a lot of help and it appears this is a step in the right direction for that. I expect better things for her than what’s ultimately happened for Ruby. Not a slight, but Ruby is there for depth and to help develop others. Toni should be here to do that and be an option to carry the division. The short piledriver as Storm Zero works, I guess. Still think there was potential with Storm One, though.

Homage to the Oscars with Allin and Andrade slapping the smack out of each other. Makes sense for Andrade to win here, too. Jeff Hardy has been hitting those Swantons much more on the button over the last year or two. They’re not always on the mark, but the victim eats a lot more of them now haha. Good for Jeff.

[Nash Diesel]

I was genuinely shocked that Toni Storm arrived. Another top tier female wrestler that is a huge draw (have you heard about how many people signed up to her OnlyFans??) and will only improve the unique and improving women's division in AEW. Ever since the first MYC Toni was in I knew she was on the path to become the next Becky/Sasha type.

It was a huge loss for WWE and one has to think the plan was for Toni to beat Charlotte and then Ronda would challenge Toni at Mania.

[VHS]

Punk looked gaaassed by the end of his match. Not saying the match wasn't awesome, but he looked like he just got out of a swimming pool. I like grey/scruffy Punk.

FTR playing more as faces is cool, but it also feels weird. Really weird. Dax was especially timid on his braces leg, hope he's not fighting through a nagging injury.

Super happy w/ how well Wardlow is doing now days. Always thought he was kinda meh since his debut, but I've really warmed up to him now that they've commenced his split from MJF. He's definitely got the Batista power brewing from within.

Toni being in AEW just seems right. Her tweaked look w/ the all black leather looks sick, and her finish fits her as well. Never did think he original finish was that good, what was it a tiger bomb? She looked genuinely happy to be there and that alone has me happy face.

Darby/Andrade was cool up until we got the typical run in clusterfuck finish. Didn't really like the slap battling between the two as it quickly turned into a parody. Probably the best Andrade match I've seen in a long time, no surprise since Darby make most folks look like powerhouse with the way he rag dolls his body. I fear for that dude's safety and health most times.

[MTR]

Pretty sure Darby and Jeff Hardy are going to just die in the ring.

[Psycho666Soldier]

I don't know if O'Reilly was doing a bit or if he legit fucked up, but it fell all sorts of flat

[Nash Diesel]

Pretty sure Darby and Jeff Hardy are going to just die in the ring.

And we'll still have fans of AEW pissed that all they did was die.

[Nash Diesel]

Back to Toni Storm. How long before we get her, PVZ, and Conti in a triple threat OnlyFans exclusive match?

[VHS]

And back to Darby and Jeff now.

[Donald]

I'd rather talk about women.

[Nash Diesel]

VHS don't be jealous I'm talking about them that way and not you. It has more to do with how you carry yourself, just in case you were going to once again falsely assume something while using it as an insult---this is 2022 by the way not 1982.

With that said, let's get back to what's important and that's the growing women's division of AEW. Toni Storm looking like a mini Rhea Ripley last night. It reminded me of Chyna and The Kat.

[Tainted Eclipse]

hobbs/lee was awesome

[Bert]

Samoa Joe is All Elite and will be on Dynamite on Wednesday. He's also going to be apart of ROH.

[Nash Diesel]

I can't wait for Samoa Joe to be on Dynamite. Watching Dynamite is like having Christmas every Wednesday. You can always expect someone new that never really got a shot until AEW gave them one. Now I'm hoping we get ROH v. AEW. For the last 3 years it's the invasion angle people were hoping for. TNA tried to do it recently with people like The Kingdom but just like TNA v. AEW, Tony Khan is going to have the numbers shooting to the moon on this one.

[MTR]

I see AEW coming back to the Kansas City area. Now they need to come back to St. Louis since I missed them last time they were here.

[Nash Diesel]

I see AEW coming back to the Kansas City area. Now they need to come back to St. Louis since I missed them last time they were here.

If they come to KCMO I'll be there. Maybe. After the ppv last fall Idk if my brain can handle that much cock suckery. Might as well just save my money and go see Bieber.

[MTR]

Just watched a video helping promote the Glory Pro Wrestling show that Suzuki, Dante, Martin, Danhausen, etc will be on and still waiting for the card to be announced but it implied that Danhausen will be in a tag match with Dan the Dad has his partner. They are announcing matches today and they have not officially announced this match. This was just a video from someone that will be in their corner. I will be cool to see Danhausen wrestle besides just shenanigans.

[VHS]

I see AEW coming back to the Kansas City area. Now they need to come back to St. Louis since I missed them last time they were here.

I was in Kansas City recently and hopefully going back next month! I dig the place. :yes:


If they come to KCMO I'll be there. Maybe. After the ppv last fall Idk if my brain can handle that much cock suckery. Might as well just save my money and go see Bieber.

Yet again with the cocks, eh? :lol:

[Psycho666Soldier]

Why is it always cocksucking though?

[Nash Diesel]

IDK I have a small vocabulary when it comes to being a hound dog fan. It doesn't sound right say a bunch of pussy eating since Tony, to my knowledge, has a dick.

VHS constantly hitting me up just shows he's jealous. VHS Trust me my friend even if you were the last cock on Earth I wouldn't. You could have a sex change, still not fuckin you.

[VHS]

I'm just so jealous of your straightness, bro. It's all on the table. :lol:

[Bert]

https://i.imgur.com/pvAenWE.jpeg

Rip Max Caster

[Bert]

https://youtu.be/Fy-n8BS5UEE

[Bert]

https://i.imgur.com/eDx9KNz.jpeg

[Ringo]

They haven't announced how many participants there will be in the Owen tournaments, have they? I think ideally you want the 16 biggest names in there. No filler. Although the women's tournament wouldn't feel so elite if they had that many competitors.

edit: Turns out they have. 16 in the qualifiers, 8 in each main tournament.

[Psycho666Soldier]

What's everyone think the deal is with Julia? Is it as simple as she joins the House of Black eventually? It feels like it's been building too long for that now, but I can't imagine what else this leads to unless it's maybe a Varsity Blondes breakup? Can't say I'd be excited about that storyline.

[MTR]

Anyone familiar with AJ Gray? He is wrestling Brody King on a show I am going to but not familiar with him. Any good?

[Nash Diesel]

I'm just so jealous of your straightness, bro. It's all on the table. :lol:

The implication that I'm straight is baffling. I've never encountered someone as homophobic as you are. This is 2022, people can say suck a dick without you immediately thinking it's some attack on gay people. Just like if I call you a pussy, I'm not calling you transgender, or a woman. Just a pussy.


What's everyone think the deal is with Julia? Is it as simple as she joins the House of Black eventually? It feels like it's been building too long for that now, but I can't imagine what else this leads to unless it's maybe a Varsity Blondes breakup? Can't say I'd be excited about that storyline.

Long term storytelling. It's what makes AEW the #1 wrestling company in the world. Look at Adam Page and how well that has paid off for his career. Highest rated segments, Meltzer gives him 4-5 stars every time he wrestles, all because of the build up Tony Khan did starting back in Ring of Honor.

Just like with the House of Black storyline. It went from The Messiah Seth Rollins v. Rey Mysterio, which lasted for like 2 years it seemed, and it's still going in AEW through Black and Murphy. It's just now Black is Seth and Murphy is well, super roided up but still Murphy. I love it.

[Horatio]

Anyone familiar with AJ Gray? He is wrestling Brody King on a show I am going to but not familiar with him. Any good?

Very cool dude. Saw him before a show. He was wearing shorts and a ball-cap, had on glasses and was carrying some sort of book.
When he came out for his match, he had "NEW AGE AX-MURDERER" stitched on the side of his pants.

As far as in-ring, he has a cool, hard-hitting and high-flying style. He's a big-boy, but not in a tall or heavy way, just big enough. He got into death matches during the pandemic, which liberated him in a way that got him even more attention and last I saw, he was wrestling back and forth with Jacob Fatu. He's always improving.

[Donald]

I can't wait for Samoa Joe to be on Dynamite. Watching Dynamite is like having Christmas every Wednesday. You can always expect someone new that never really got a shot until AEW gave them one. Now I'm hoping we get ROH v. AEW. For the last 3 years it's the invasion angle people were hoping for. TNA tried to do it recently with people like The Kingdom but just like TNA v. AEW, Tony Khan is going to have the numbers shooting to the moon on this one.

Love the sarcasm.

[MTR]

Very cool dude. Saw him before a show. He was wearing shorts and a ball-cap, had on glasses and was carrying some sort of book.
When he came out for his match, he had "NEW AGE AX-MURDERER" stitched on the side of his pants.

As far as in-ring, he has a cool, hard-hitting and high-flying style. He's a big-boy, but not in a tall or heavy way, just big enough. He got into death matches during the pandemic, which liberated him in a way that got him even more attention and last I saw, he was wrestling back and forth with Jacob Fatu. He's always improving.


Cool. Probably be a good match then. Looks like AJ Gray is also a former champ of this fed. I may start going more often. tickets are not badly priced and once a month for the most part.

[VHS]

The implication that I'm straight is baffling. I've never encountered someone as homophobic as you are. This is 2022, people can say suck a dick without you immediately thinking it's some attack on gay people. Just like if I call you a pussy, I'm not calling you transgender, or a woman. Just a pussy.

Wait... if you're gay, I wholeheartedly apologize. Real talk.

[Tyson]

This is 2022, people can say suck a dick without you immediately thinking it's some attack on gay people. Just like if I call you a pussy, I'm not calling you transgender, or a woman. Just a pussy.

Just because you can doesn’t mean you should. Aren’t you in your thirties? Maybe stop using middle school insults.

Grow the fuck up…

[Donald]

Nerd.

[Nash Diesel]

Wait... if you're gay, I wholeheartedly apologize. Real talk.

Real talk, it shouldn't matter. Trying to get one over on me has never worked, ever. I don't need to parade around my sexuality so VHS knows what he can or can't say.

Ever sucked a dick? It ain't all it's cracked up to be according to some. Smell your dick, would you want that in your mouth? Ever been to prison? Ever been so poor you only had a couple cheeseburgers to trade and then when that don't work you have to go with what God gave you?

Also--when I said that about the fans I was around how is the 1st thing you think of is homosexuality? Obviously you've never had your dick sucked. Feels incredible. Especially when it's done solely to get something from you or they do it because they think you're the fuckin shit. Tony has a lot you lined up, unzipped, ready to thank him. FYI, stop being sexist. I watch AEW 2-3 times a week and plenty of women out there sucking his dick.

[Nash Diesel]

Just because you can doesn’t mean you should. Aren’t you in your thirties? Maybe stop using middle school insults.

Grow the fuck up…

I actually turned 40 back in December I think.

Maybe stop posting on a wrestling message board before using the ageism bullshit lol.

Most people after the age of 10 stop watching wrestling. Also, am I violating any rules? Nope. Stay in Canada nerd.

[VHS]

Real talk, it shouldn't matter. Trying to get one over on me has never worked, ever. I don't need to parade around my sexuality so @VHS (https://forums.rajah.com/member.php?u=36173) knows what he can or can't say.

Yes, it should matter. The last thing I want is to give off the vibe that I'm shaming someone's sexuality, even inadvertently.


Ever sucked a dick? It ain't all it's cracked up to be according to some. Smell your dick, would you want that in your mouth? Ever been to prison? Ever been so poor you only had a couple cheeseburgers to trade and then when that don't work you have to go with what God gave you?

Hwat. :wtf:


Also--when I said that about the fans I was around how is the 1st thing you think of is homosexuality?

Hey, I was only pointing out that you've been mentioning cocks and blowjobs quite frequently lately. Like at a parody level.


Obviously you've never had your dick sucked. Feels incredible. Especially when it's done solely to get something from you or they do it because they think you're the fuckin shit. Tony has a lot you lined up, unzipped, ready to thank him. FYI, stop being sexist. I watch AEW 2-3 times a week and plenty of women out there sucking his dick.

Bro, you are weird. :lol:

[Nash Diesel]

VHS Real talk, you shouldn't have to be told something personal like my sexual orientation for you to show some tact. It's that simple. I don't like to talk about that stuff because look what happened when people found out I have a black mother. I get called an Uncle Tom by some English cat lol. Last thing I need is you kissing my ass because I might be gay. I'd rather you just be real, like you said.

[Bert]

I'm really hoping the people leaving Warner Media after this merger includes the person who was against having The Briscoes on TBS/TNT. At the very least they better stay in ROH. I don't want to have to watch Impact.

[Nash Diesel]

I'm really hoping the people leaving Warner Media after this merger includes the person who was against having The Briscoes on TBS/TNT. At the very least they better stay in ROH. I don't want to have to watch Impact.

Whoever takes their place could be even worse. That's actually a legit concern within AEW. Look at WCW. Once Ted Turner lost his stroke, see ya! Obviously there were layers to that decision but it was ultimately because a handful of people who had been wanting wrestling off the network, even when they were beating WWF, finally were able to do so because the man in charge was now essentially gone.

Worst case scenario Briscoes stay in ROH and we still see them every week and they don't have to embarrass themselves anymore than they already have.

[Bert]

The promo image for tonight says "Eddie Kingston addresses his enemies" and if that's true I'm not sure there will be any time left for wrestling.

[Tyrone]

With Joe's debut out of the way who's on deck to show up next week?

[Bert]

Athena probably. Battle for the Belts 2 is in her hometown.

[Bert]

After her Claudio is the only person left that I can think of.

[Horatio]

Adam Cole should take the Elias gimmick and change his name to Adam Cold.
Can you imagine a better homeless scumfuck act?

[Bert]

FTR/Bucks was pretty great.

Tonight just flew by.

[Horatio]

I was reading an old segunda caida review where they said David Flair didn't know how to stand like a human, much less move like a wrestler...

But did anyone catch Adam Cold trying to run around the ring tonight? He runs like someone running in a skirt, trying to keep their skirt down without using their hands.

Give me more Adam Cold and ban Johnny Gargano from all future wrestling events.
Actually, he can wait by the door for his wife, along with HHH, his no-good limo driver. I mean, come on, someone needed to see that Panama Sunrise every time and it wasn't us (bbbbbaybay). And Gargano just encouraged that shit.

Edit - and FTR do make an ordinary Young Bucks contest into a hella rewarding Young Bucks fail. That Briscoes match would probably have me in tears.

[Bert]

You are a very random individual. You should watch Briscoes/FTR though, everyone should.

If you were to Google what you intended to do, like maybe "watch wrestling", you may be surprised by what you find.

[Badger]

Capt Shawn Dean = Pinnacle killer lol