All Elite Wrestling

[Mazer]

I can see that. But to me it came across as his passion and overall feelings of ownership with the company. It felt like it tied into his opening statement. He can't disconnect from his journey, which is why he's not turning, etc.

Certainly that's just my read, and sure it came across differently to some. But I could kinda feel it.

[BGMaverick]

I can see that. But to me it came across as his passion and overall feelings of ownership with the company. It felt like it tied into his opening statement. He can't disconnect from his journey, which is why he's not turning, etc.

Certainly that's just my read, and sure it came across differently to some. But I could kinda feel it.

For sure. That came across well, but if the main point was going to be promoting the match, I'm not sure that will resonate and just will get lost in the shuffle.

He turned simply for the choice in tie he wore, to me lol.

[Mazer]

For sure. That came across well, but if the main point was going to be promoting the match, I'm not sure that will resonate and just will get lost in the shuffle.

He turned simply for the choice in tie he wore, to me lol.

The match felt a little secondary to me, so I more thought that could get lost in the shuffle/drama surrounding Cody.




And after seeing Cesaro rock the tie game a few months ago, everybody else is at least 2 levels down.

[BGMaverick]

The match felt a little secondary to me, so I more thought that could get lost in the shuffle/drama surrounding Cody.

And after seeing Cesaro rock the tie game a few months ago, everybody else is at least 2 levels down.

He's Swiss. Cody never stood a chance.

[Mazer]

Realistically, everyone else should have just went to open collar.

They're just embarrassing themselves.

[Horatio]

I actually felt like they hated him at first and he turned it around.

Yeah, it definitely seemed like they were willing to give credit where it was due. Cody has his finger on the pulse of SM-fueled smark world of today (which is incredible).

[Bert]

1,032,000 viewers
0.44 18-49

[Tainted Eclipse]

big feather in moxley's cap. i hope they have a big program lined up for him.

[Badger]

He handled that heckler magnificently. :yes:

[Badger]

Also the Spears squash threw me yet still funny af.

Wardlow’s expressions and MJF’s birthday wish. Great build.

[cmpunkisecw]

Huge miss from the Gunn Club - wtf didn’t they do a 5 second pose with Christian after the beat down? Then it would’ve been a nice “statement made”.

[Murphy]

Also the Spears squash threw me yet still funny af.

Wardlow’s expressions and MJF’s birthday wish. Great build.

100%. Love me some Wardlow.

Sting, my man. Love me some good old fashioned booking with Darby returning for the finish. And nobody could do it quite as explosively as Darby Allin. :yes:

[VHS]

Can’t quite find the video at the moment, but I saw a video on the twitters where Sting/Darby get it of their car to chant A E DUB with some fans in the car in front of them. That must have been so fun :)

[Mazer]

I would watch a web series about the misadventures of Sting and Darby as they travel the road and encounter the world together.


When the Grave Doesn't Sting: A Story of an Old Man, a Young Man, and Life's Greatest Lesson.

[Bert]

Seems weird that Rampage is Live in the same place they were two days ago. I wonder if there's a reason they didn't just tape Rampage then. TBS title is supposed to main event which seems like a weird choice unless something is going to happen.

[Bert]

Lio Rush done with AEW, contract expires February 14th.

He's always got in his own way, I'm not surprised anymore.

[VHS]

He's always in a rush, that guy.

[Tim]

Eddie Kingston looks like a generic toy wrestler you'd see at the dollar store.

[Ringo]

Rampage was a good show, the best in a while. Feels like the last few weeks of AEW TV has been a bit of a lull and aside from Bryan Danielson's brilliance my interest has gradually been waning since Full Gear. The fact that we've seen less of some of two of my favourites in Miro and Kingston is probably one reason why. But Mox's return has generated a fresh buzz and I'm hoping this is the start of the push towards Revolution. How much better does Moxley look by the way? Hell of a promo on Wednesday, there's a handful of interesting potential feuds for him waiting.

[Peter Griffin]

Aye the side by side before and after of Mox is insane, Good on him... And fuck Bully Ray.

[VHS]

Yeah, the Bully Ray thing is just such an eye rolling reminder how carny certain wrestlers continue to be. Bully's got a decent finger on the wrestling pulse, but he does look at things from inside that world still. He can't look at things from the perspective of a normal person on some occasions, the Mox story in Exhibit A.

I can't imagine the courage it took Mox to seek help for his alcoholism. Alcohol is a mother fucker, and so for him to drop everything and enter rehab... that's real strength. Take the pro wrestling stuff out of the equation, Mox entering rehab and coming out looking better than ever deserves immense praise. But at no time would he or should he feel like he needs to apologize for anything. Bully's looking at Mox's story as something underneath the circus tent, which is why his opinion on saying Mox should have apologized is so bad. Apologize for what? Fixing himself? Oh, but think of the poor children that paid their hard earned money to see him... yeah, no regular person would look at it that way. Hence, the backlash Bully's seeing.

[BGMaverick]

Ana and Jade exceeded my low expectations, especially considering they were in the main event spot for Rampage. They didn’t look out of sorts, but I think there was a case of cover you ass by having a heavy portion of the match in a commercial.

Curious when we are going to see Hook on Dynamite.

Takes some more actions, but Moxley/Danielson would be a money TNT Championship feud.

I don’t know why they did this show live. I guess they wanted to see if it’d pop a different rating.

[chatty]

Lio Rush done with AEW, contract expires February 14th.

He's always got in his own way, I'm not surprised anymore.

I don't really rate Rush, he's never done anything that I've particularly found entertaining and think Martin is better off on his own until his brother gets back anyway but what type of contract did Rush have, like a 3 month contract or something, he's barely been in the company to make a deal of his contract expiring lol

[Nash Diesel]

I don't really rate Rush, he's never done anything that I've particularly found entertaining and think Martin is better off on his own until his brother gets back anyway but what type of contract did Rush have, like a 3 month contract or something, he's barely been in the company to make a deal of his contract expiring lol

I think some of these cats sign a contract for X amount of dates. Wasn't he signed by AEW, retired, then came back, and is now leaving? Maybe they just never killed his OG contract.

[Horatio]

I'm thinking he signed a 6 month contract and retired, only to come back because life is so very long. Nothing with that, I'm just expecting to see TAFKALR some day...

[Nash Diesel]

I think this is like the 3rd time in 3 years Lio has retired. He retired after he WWE, he's retired twice now since AEW's been a thing. Kid is weird as fuck. He has like 9 kids and no career........

[Horatio]

I think his head is split between being an artist, which is demanding, and being an entertainer, which must be rewarding when you've got his particular skillset.

I like that he was still doing indy shows (although i haven't seen any of that recently on IG) but a part of me wishes he had stayed in MLW as he was easily their biggest hope for a second.

[Bert]

He was at GCW last night and he's taking bookings. He's not retiring, yet.

[Horatio]

He was at GCW last night and he's taking bookings. He's not retiring, yet.
Right on. My ADD is outta control at this point and I forget that information is totally accessible outside of IG.

[Tyrone]

Lio Rush, Austin Aries and Low Ki should form a stable: The Headaches

[Bert]

https://youtu.be/U8NCUwlq1Co

[Bert]

https://i.imgur.com/CAhdqio.jpeg

[Nash Diesel]

CM PUNK SPEAKS??? NO FUCKIN WAY!

The optics of these advertisements piss me off considering how fucking cold and shitty it is but they're pretending like Cleveland is in Jamaica.

[Donald]

Looks riveting.

[Nash Diesel]

It looks whack lol. Even the pointless ladder match. It'll be a show I watch for the garbage spots and that's it. Oh and my boys 2.0 yayyyy because God knows they're ratings draw.

[Donald]

I forgot sarcasm is hard to detect in text form.

[Bert]

Wondering if we get Gargano helping OC or not.

[Donald]

That would be exciting.

[PurePlayer]

CM PUNK SPEAKS??? NO FUCKIN WAY!

The optics of these advertisements piss me off considering how fucking cold and shitty it is but they're pretending like Cleveland is in Jamaica.

It's odd to have Beach Break in Cleveland. Makes no sense. Florida or California obviously works but even a place like South Carolina or Jersey works better than freaking Ohio.

[VHS]

Cleveland: We've got sandy beaches.
Fans: SO WHO THE FUCK WANTS TO SEE THEM? :mad:

[Horatio]

Buzz: But they've got nude beaches...
Rod: ...not in the winter.

lol

[mth]

"CM Punk Speaks." Whoopie, CM Punk speaks all the time. Lemme know when "CM Punk Dances" or "CM Punk Rides a Unicycle Across a Tightrope" and you might have something worth tuning into.

[Horatio]

CM Punk pays tribute to John Cena?

[VHS]

CM Punk pays homeage to John Cena?

^

[Horatio]

^

Who wants that shit?

[VHS]

Who wants that shit?

No one in particular that I know, just maybe one person out there yeahh.

https://media.giphy.com/media/AobQDNI4K7a4U/giphy.gif

[Nash Diesel]

Who wants that shit?

To be fair I witnessed CM Punk pay homage LIVE in front of my face at Full Gear when he did Cena's 5 moves of doom lol.

[Bert]

No Cody entrance means 10 extra minutes.

[Bert]

That leap frog cutter was insane.

[Horatio]

That leap frog cutter was insane.

Honestly am just putting casualfan time into wrestling these days, but AEW has yet to disappoint. That move was what ladder matches are made for. :yes:


To be fair I witnessed CM Punk pay homage LIVE in front of my face at Full Gear when he did Cena's 5 moves of doom lol.

Pretty sure that's an insult to all of Ohio or whatever nation you desmoinians claim to be a part of. Dissed by the Punker and a mocking Cenation from afar.

But really, awesome that you got to see that fight.

[Bert]

DANHAUSEN

[Donald]

English please.

[Bert]

https://i.imgur.com/WC2OR5Y.jpeg

Fuck. Yes.

[Sasori]

Wasn't Cole undefeated in singles competition leading up to this match? Did not expect OC to be the first one to beat him.

[Horatio]

Adam Cole went straight upside dizzle into that table.
Because of his beach tan...
He was jealous of Orange because he was able.
Obviously an HBK man...

[Horatio]

Wasn't Cole undefeated in singles competition leading up to this match? Did not expect OC to be the first one to beat him.

Think it was nonsanctioned, ennit?

[Nash Diesel]

This was easily the most pointless title unification/ladder match I've ever seen BUT that cutter made up for it.

[Bert]

Wasn't Cole undefeated in singles competition leading up to this match? Did not expect OC to be the first one to beat him.

Lights out means it doesn't count towards the records.

[Nash Diesel]

Wasn't Cole undefeated in singles competition leading up to this match? Did not expect OC to be the first one to beat him.

To be fair OC has challenged for the World title. Adam Cole couldn't even get to the gym.

[Horatio]

To be fair OC has challenged for the World title. Adam Cole couldn't even get to the gym.

Doesn't need to. He's boinking the dentist that's why his ass is so fat and his pussy so joosay.

Falling so whoopsy daisy into the table really endeared me to him tonight. That some good pussay.

[VHS]

wow

https://gfycat.com/fragrantchillyhylaeosaurus

[Horatio]

wow

https://gfycat.com/fragrantchillyhylaeosaurus

The timing on that was impeccable. People gonna be crying the day Cody announces his actual retirement.

[Ringo]

Loved Tony interviewing Team Taz at the freezing cold beach. :lol: Starks in the ski gear and Hobbs just wearing a massive fur coat over his dungarees. :D

[Peter Griffin]

Doesn't need to. He's boinking the dentist that's why his ass is so fat and his pussy so joosay.

Falling so whoopsy daisy into the table really endeared me to him tonight. That some good pussay.

Are you on crack?

[Badger]

Doesn't need to. He's boinking the dentist that's why his ass is so fat and his pussy so joosay.

Falling so whoopsy daisy into the table really endeared me to him tonight. That some good pussay.

Am I the only one that read this in a Scott Steiner voice?

[Donald]

Kiss Demon debuted last night, I heard?

[chatty]

Kiss Demon debuted last night, I heard?

That the James Ellsworth MKII guy?

[Bert]

Kiss Demon debuted last night, I heard?

Way better.

[Donald]

I saw Brandi Rhodes say that was the best ladder match she's ever seen. Is she right? Or has she just never seen a ladder match before?

[Bert]

It was a very good ladder match for sure. I think it's worth watching for anyone who is a fan of ladder matches.

[mth]

Watched the ladder match clip AEW put on YouTube. Cutter was rad but the Cross Rhodes was even more impressive. Nasty senton bump, as well. Finish felt like something I've seen a few times, though. Seemed like it was very good from the chunk they posted.

Also watched Danhausen's debut bit. Will be curious to see what he does.

[Tyrone]

Good way to debut Danhausen but it feels like there's an AEW debut every single week which is fun in the moment but it's just stacking bodies now with no place to put them. At some point they're going to have enough guys get lost in the shuffle that by the time they appear again it's going to feel like a debut.

[Bert]

It will slow down when all of the wwe release non-competes expire.

I still think we get Keith Lee, Jeff Hardy, Athena, and possibly Toni Storm and Swerve.

[Nash Diesel]

I've tried to get into this character but it's just not for me. There are some people who think he'll fit in with AEW but honestly, they don't really fuck with these type of gimmicks. Look how quick Broken Matt returned to Big Money Matt. Notice the weirder the gimmicks, the more time you are on Dark. The only cornball looking shit they have getting any real respect is Jurassic Express. Why? Who the fuck knows lol. Jack Perry I assume.

This guy might've fit better with NXT.

[Bert]

He's going to be the new Orange Cassidy being in random segments and I'm here for it.

He might even be a mainstay on Dark and give them more views.

[PurePlayer]

Good way to debut Danhausen but it feels like there's an AEW debut every single week which is fun in the moment but it's just stacking bodies now with no place to put them. At some point they're going to have enough guys get lost in the shuffle that by the time they appear again it's going to feel like a debut.

they need to let a ton of contracts expire. guys like Miro, Andrade, etc are already lost in the shuffle. It looks like Andrade will feud with Darby soon at least. I understand you don't have everyone to appear every single week and it limits overexposure but Miro hasn't been on since losing the title besides backstage promos.

[Tyrone]

I'd been watching some of Andrade from NXT and early WWE run and he just doesn't click with me. He's a good worker, just not terribly exciting. If he's part of a stable someone with more presence would rightly be the #1 and he a secondary character. He's steady, just doesn't seem like he does much to wow people.

[Bert]

they need to let a ton of contracts expire. guys like Miro, Andrade, etc are already lost in the shuffle. It looks like Andrade will feud with Darby soon at least. I understand you don't have everyone to appear every single week and it limits overexposure but Miro hasn't been on since losing the title besides backstage promos.

Miro is injured. That's why he was taped up for the Danielson match.

[PurePlayer]

Miro is injured. That's why he was taped up for the Danielson match.

that makes sense.

[Nash Diesel]

He's going to be the new Orange Cassidy being in random segments and I'm here for it.

He might even be a mainstay on Dark and give them more views.

I'm sure you are Bert Khan.


they need to let a ton of contracts expire. guys like Miro, Andrade, etc are already lost in the shuffle. It looks like Andrade will feud with Darby soon at least. I understand you don't have everyone to appear every single week and it limits overexposure but Miro hasn't been on since losing the title besides backstage promos.

How about this clusterfuck of a relationship Andrade has with Matt Hardy? Jesus Christ I thought Andrade was going to come in and be something more than a lower card talent.


I'd been watching some of Andrade from NXT and early WWE run and he just doesn't click with me. He's a good worker, just not terribly exciting. If he's part of a stable someone with more presence would rightly be the #1 and he a secondary character. He's steady, just doesn't seem like he does much to wow people.

When Andrade was getting the big push in NXT is when I started to feel NXT was on a downslide. I liked the presentation of Andrade and Zelina Vega don't get me wrong but IDK if I ever saw him as a top guy of any brand. What we're seeing in AEW is pretty whack imo but what do you expect when his debut was the start of a long line of meaningless debuts that we see every week.

[PurePlayer]

It will slow down when all of the wwe release non-competes expire.

I still think we get Keith Lee, Jeff Hardy, Athena, and possibly Toni Storm and Swerve.

does Keith Lee and Swerve add anything to the roster though? Jeff Hardy I can see adding to the show. Not only give us another quality tag team but there will be merch sales from him. Toni Storm can help the women's division so sure. But why would they sign guys like Keith Lee, Swerve and a couple other mid card guys?

[Bert]

does Keith Lee and Swerve add anything to the roster though? Jeff Hardy I can see adding to the show. Not only give us another quality tag team but there will be merch sales from him. Toni Storm can help the women's division so sure. But why would they sign guys like Keith Lee, Swerve and a couple other mid card guys?

Yes. Swerve can join the House of Black, he's a great wrestler with charisma.

Keith Lee could be a huge star. He could come in and squash Sammy and be believable. I think he's a better face than heel though.

[Nash Diesel]

Let them sign Jeff Hardy so he can die on their watch. That dude needs to stay the fuck out of the business and anyone signing him without him going to an actual rehab are moronic. I'm not saying it's a cure, but this guy is a lost cause.

[Donald]

When Andrade came in he said he would become the face of AEW. He must not stick to goals.

[Sasori]

Think it was nonsanctioned, ennit?


Lights out means it doesn't count towards the records.

Oh, yeah. Whoops :dunce: That does leave for some interesting things down the road. Cole can brag about being undefeated only for OC to remind him that he did lose even if it's not on the record. Maybe he can make it official in another match, etc.


To be fair OC has challenged for the World title. Adam Cole couldn't even get to the gym.

Lol. He's too busy wetting down his hair.

[Donald]

Would have been better of a match if the lights were actually out.

[VHS]

Danhausen is more over than Hook.

[Donald]

What is he, a vampire or something.

[Tyrone]

What is he, a vampire or something.

Whatever he is he'll probably be forgotten about in a couple weeks when someone else debuts.

[Sasori]

This was easily the most pointless title unification/ladder match I've ever seen BUT that cutter made up for it.

Yup.

https://i.imgur.com/XN6ubCj.gif

[Tainted Eclipse]

Nothing on last nights show really clicked for me tbh

[Bert]

Whatever he is he'll probably be forgotten about in a couple weeks when someone else debuts.

I highly doubt that.

[Matthew]

Nothing on last nights show really clicked for me tbh
go click ur prick, fucker

[Tainted Eclipse]

:cry:

[Nash Diesel]

I'm with Fedor. That show was 3 spots and that was it. All in the same ladder match. Everything was terrible. Although I will say this....When OC was hugging Adam Cole to death, it reminded me of the movie Beastmaster where those winged giant creatures kill people by hugging them into bones.

[Bert]

1,100,000
0.41 in the 18-49 demo

Up in overall viewers from 1,032,000.
Down from 0.44 in the demo.

[Bert]

Most over duo.
https://i.imgur.com/reC4eVT.jpeg

[Murphy]

Loved Tony interviewing Team Taz at the freezing cold beach. :lol: Starks in the ski gear and Hobbs just wearing a massive fur coat over his dungarees. :D

I totally got a kick out of that too. Amazing. :lol:

That cutter from the ladder left me open mouthed and that rarely happens these days.

That said, I'm not too into anything on AEW at the moment. And there are far too many kicking out of finishers for my liking, as an aside.

Also, why does Lance Archer want to actually kill poor Hangman all of a sudden? That came from nowhere and now they're having a Texas death match?

[Badger]

Well Archer is a wrecking ball but in a nutshell, Page and Dan Butler have issues where Archer had issues with Lambert. He returned from an injury looking as if to strike Lambert again but got page. An enemy of an enemy is my friend. Also Archer had to drop out the World Title tourney due to a botched moonsault on Kingston so he never got a title shot but now he has.

[Murphy]

I get those points, but we've reached a death match pretty quickly. Bit of a jump.

[Badger]

AEW = Always Escalating Wrestling

[Bert]

Let them sign Jeff Hardy so he can die on their watch. That dude needs to stay the fuck out of the business and anyone signing him without him going to an actual rehab are moronic. I'm not saying it's a cure, but this guy is a lost cause.

From the observer

John Laurinaitis called Jeff Hardy to get him back a few weeks ago, including an offer to put him in the 2022 Hall of Fame class. Hardy turned it down and asked for his drug test results because he knew he wasn’t going to test positive for recreational drugs. It took Hardy and his wife six weeks to get the results back

Doesn't seem like he was on drugs. I think he was just burnt out from the travel schedule of WWE and the wear on his body.

[Matthew]

is julia hart turning tonight

[Horatio]

is julia hart turning tonight

No one on this board really knows the answer, so it's a trick question.

Nice try, M.

[Bert]

is julia hart turning tonight

It's not mentioned in the spoilers I read and I feel like it would have been.

[Bert]

https://youtu.be/oyyNC2_BWi8

[PurePlayer]

From the observer


Doesn't seem like he was on drugs. I think he was just burnt out from the travel schedule of WWE and the wear on his body.

sounds like they fired him assuming he was on drugs without actually getting the drug test results.

[Sasori]

For anyone who cares, Meltzer gave the ladder match 5 Stars. It was damn good so I'm not surprised.


is julia hart turning tonight

I expect it will be one more step towards her eventual turn. Knowing TK, it could be months before she finally turns.

[Nash Diesel]

From the observer


Doesn't seem like he was on drugs. I think he was just burnt out from the travel schedule of WWE and the wear on his body.

I don't know about all that. I'm not sure where that info from Dave came from, and if it came from Jeff I take it with a grain of salt. I mean....is he still that unprofessional? You don't just say fuck it mid match and bounce. And I doubt they would fire him on the spot for something like that without knowing he was on something.

[PurePlayer]

I don't know about all that. I'm not sure where that info from Dave came from, and if it came from Jeff I take it with a grain of salt. I mean....is he still that unprofessional? You don't just say fuck it mid match and bounce. And I doubt they would fire him on the spot for something like that without knowing he was on something.

You doubt they would fire him without knowing? Really? It's the WWE we are talking about. They fired Bray Wyatt and kept Jinder Mahal, Shanky, Reggie, and Dana Brooke.

[Nash Diesel]

You doubt they would fire him without knowing? Really? It's the WWE we are talking about. They fired Bray Wyatt and kept Jinder Mahal, Shanky, Reggie, and Dana Brooke.

What does them firing Bray Wyatt and keeping the other 4 names you mentioned have anything to do with Jeff Hardy? Yes, it's the WWE I'm talking about.

The story that was making the rounds from everyone including the Observer was that Jeff was released due to refusing to go to rehab. That isn't the first time that has happened. Even when they rehired him after his first TNA run, he told them he wasn't going to rehab and that he would just sober up on his own. This is actually on the 2-disc Hardy Boyz DVD.

But with all that said.......None of what you said has anything to do with Jeff Hardy's release. So what if they released Bray and kept those other 4? That's a totally different conversation unless Bray's release was drug related. They didn't just fire Jeff because he bailed on the match.

[PurePlayer]

You said you doubt they would release him unless they knew it was for drugs. I am saying the WWE does stupid shit with their releases so I could see them releasing Jeff without knowing for sure if he was on drugs. It's very possible they assumed he was on drugs and wanted him to go to rehab without having the facts. You said you doubt they would fire him on the spot. Why doubt that? It's very possible they would do something insane like that.

If he was fired for drugs or being unprofessional then why are they so fast to offer him his job back and a hall of fame induction which requires a speech? You can't pick and choose which report to believe.

[PurePlayer]

The story that was making the rounds from everyone including the Observer was that Jeff was released due to refusing to go to rehab.


I don't know about all that. I'm not sure where that info from Dave came from, and if it came from Jeff I take it with a grain of salt.

Just so you can't say "I'm not picking and choosing what report to believe."

[Nash Diesel]

You said you doubt they would release him unless they knew it was for drugs. I am saying the WWE does stupid shit with their releases so I could see them releasing Jeff without knowing for sure if he was on drugs. It's very possible they assumed he was on drugs and wanted him to go to rehab without having the facts. You said you doubt they would fire him on the spot. Why doubt that? It's very possible they would do something insane like that

What's insane is someone leaving mid-match, going through the crowd, and then whatever happened next we don't really know. We've heard multiple stories from the same sources since it happened.

Bray Wyatt's release and Jeff Hardy's release have nothing to do with each other. Just like if you got fired from your job for being on the internet instead of working doesn't mean that was the reason everyone else gets fired from your job.

WWE should've made his ass go to rehab or fired him a lot sooner. He fucks up constantly. And what story are you even believing? The same people reporting this new info are the same ones reporting the old info. I'm not taking Jeff Hardy's word for shit, he's a known liar with a history of drug and alcohol issues who even his own family says he never accepts help. He just wants to make lawn designs and be fucked up.

[Nash Diesel]

Just so you can't say "I'm not picking and choosing what report to believe."

I don't get why you quoted those 2 comments lol. You ok today?

[PurePlayer]

I don't get why you quoted those 2 comments lol. You ok today?

because you are literally believing 1 report while dismissing another report from the same source. Are you ok?

[PurePlayer]

What's insane is someone leaving mid-match, going through the crowd, and then whatever happened next we don't really know. We've heard multiple stories from the same sources since it happened.

Bray Wyatt's release and Jeff Hardy's release have nothing to do with each other. Just like if you got fired from your job for being on the internet instead of working doesn't mean that was the reason everyone else gets fired from your job.

WWE should've made his ass go to rehab or fired him a lot sooner. He fucks up constantly. And what story are you even believing? The same people reporting this new info are the same ones reporting the old info. I'm not taking Jeff Hardy's word for shit, he's a known liar with a history of drug and alcohol issues who even his own family says he never accepts help. He just wants to make lawn designs and be fucked up.

I am not giving WWE the benefit of the doubt for the reason they released someone. That's my point. If a company releases someone for no reason then I can assume they will do it again in this case. Who is taking Jeff's word? If I am to believe the recent report which is why we are talking about, the WWE contacted Jeff to bring him back. Why would they bring him back for being a druggie or unprofessional? Can you answer that?

[Nash Diesel]

because you are literally believing 1 report while dismissing another report from the same source. Are you ok?

I'm not really giving credit to either I'm just saying here's what they first said, now it's something different, what the fuck? I am leaning toward the original reports being more accurate as it lines up with most if not all of Jeff's fuck ups including what, not even a year ago he was arrested for DUI? But yeah let's bring him to AEW where his brother almost died due to the wonderful medical care.

Edit: Sorry Hardy was arrest 2 years ago I think I was confusing him with an Uso.


I am not giving WWE the benefit of the doubt for the reason they released someone. That's my point. If a company releases someone for no reason then I can assume they will do it again in this case. Who is taking Jeff's word? If I am to believe the recent report which is why we are talking about, the WWE contacted Jeff to bring him back. Why would they bring him back for being a druggie or unprofessional? Can you answer that?

I can't answer that because I imagine the report isn't accurate at all. Where did they get that info? I doubt Johnny Ace called up the dirt sheets.

Bottomline is we shouldn't believe any of the reports but I'm just trying to lean on being cautious and maybe Jeff Hardy needs to stay out of pro wrestling before it finally kills him.

[PurePlayer]

I'm not really giving credit to either I'm just saying here's what they first said, now it's something different, what the fuck? I am leaning toward the original reports being more accurate as it lines up with most if not all of Jeff's fuck ups including what, not even a year ago he was arrested for DUI? But yeah let's bring him to AEW where his brother almost died due to the wonderful medical care.



I can't answer that because I imagine the report isn't accurate at all. Where did they get that info? I doubt Johnny Ace called up the dirt sheets.

Bottomline is we shouldn't believe any of the reports but I'm just trying to lean on being cautious and maybe Jeff Hardy needs to stay out of pro wrestling before it finally kills him.

You're right in that anything could be true and we don't really know either way. You are leaning towards Jeff being unprofessional or on drugs based on history and I am leaning towards WWE jumping the gun and making a release before they had all the info and now they are back peddling based on their history (Mickie James, Bray Wyatt, etc)

[Nash Diesel]

You're right in that anything could be true and we don't really know either way. You are leaning towards Jeff being unprofessional or on drugs based on history and I am leaning towards WWE jumping the gun and making a release before they had all the info and now they are back peddling based on their history (Mickie James, Bray Wyatt, etc)

How do the releases of Bray Wyatt and Mickie James relate to Jeff Hardy? Just stop trying to force these comparisons lol.

[PurePlayer]

How do the releases of Bray Wyatt and Mickie James relate to Jeff Hardy? Just stop trying to force these comparisons lol.

It's not a force. You are giving WWE the benefit of the doubt and they have a history of odd releases. They even fired the guy with the way he released Mickie James.

[Matthew]

No one on this board really knows the answer, so it's a trick question.

Nice try, M.you don't know that nobody knows, you know-nothing

[Nash Diesel]

It's not a force. You are giving WWE the benefit of the doubt and they have a history of odd releases. They even fired the guy with the way he released Mickie James.

What was odd about Bray Wyatt's release? What was odd about Mickie James' release? They've released what an extreme amount of wrestlers. I am giving WWE the benefit of the doubt because of Jeff Hardy's history. You're giving too much credit to the latest info Bert posted because it makes WWE look worse than the original.

I guess the fact that I don't find Bray Wyatt's release in the same vein as Jeff Hardy's release is where the disconnect here is. I don't think Wyatt's release was strange and I definitely don't think Jeff deserved to even be in WWE or wrestling in general after the arrest in 2019.

[Mazer]

The video is out there. Regardless of whether Jeff's behavior was drug induced, it was decidedly unprofessional.

[Horatio]

you don't know that nobody knows, you know-nothing

That's true, but you don't really know the depths of my ignorance, so fuck off. Wtf?

[Matthew]

thems fightin words

[Horatio]

thems fightin words

That's true again. I don't understand what's going on here though and I don't like it.
On topic, i glanced at the thread and saw refrences to Bray Wyatt, who I don't like, and so I'm just going to go away now.
I'll fuck off then :cry:

[Matthew]

no plz i apologize

[Horatio]

Alright I'm back, like it or not homies...

Totally missed Rampage again because I was an emotional wreck (or because I'm never awake or on TV this time of the week), but I think my favorite part of Dynamite this week was the Inner Circle drama.
2.0 are great TV heels, completely unobtrusive as some bad guys should be (do villians really need endearing personalities?). I liked how Garcia got dumped and Proud and Powerful only needed a little help tearing through all 3 of them little jerks (although, I gotta say all "cruiserweights" look much bigger in AEW than in WWE. Can't say 2.0 look much different than the Quebecers used to look in there; it's gotta be superior camerawork).
Jericho saying his friends need to get their heads out of their asses was unintentionally humorous and old sounding, but the drama had some appeal. They really need to fix themselves! There could be bigger fish to fry in the coming weeks, we don't know!

[MTR]

Totally jealous. My daughter is going up to Chicago for Dynamite. A friend is going and said she could ride up and back home with him just need to get a ticket. Might have to slip her some money to get me a CM Punk shirt.

[Sasori]

Riho has a broken collarbone and is recovering back in Japan. Who knows when we'll see her again.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKKHPYxaIAYacTo?format=jpg&name=small

[JuveLeo]

Is it just me or has Riho and Shida fell off a bit? Especially Shida. Both after their title reigns too.

[Nash Diesel]

Is it just me or has Riho and Shida fell off a bit? Especially Shida. Both after their title reigns too.

A big downside of AEW is booking is when you really pay attention to some of the challengers for the World title and the women's title. They all kind of fall off and work with people 7-8 rungs down the ladder. What's Ruby Soho up to? What's Conti up to? Remember Nyla Jax? Me neither. I guess we need to watch more of Dark.

Could you imagine if we were like, "Man what's up with T-Bar?" And every WWE mark was like "Oh you need to watch Main Event on Hulu!" It'd help lol.

[Horatio]

A big downside of AEW is booking is when you really pay attention to some of the challengers for the World title and the women's title. They all kind of fall off and work with people 7-8 rungs down the ladder. What's Ruby Soho up to? What's Conti up to? Remember Nyla Jax? Me neither. I guess we need to watch more of Dark.
Excuse me, Nyla wants Ruby and it's serioso

[VHS]

A big downside of AEW is booking is when you really pay attention to some of the challengers for the World title and the women's title. They all kind of fall off and work with people 7-8 rungs down the ladder. What's Ruby Soho up to? What's Conti up to? Remember Nyla Jax? Me neither. I guess we need to watch more of Dark.

Could you imagine if we were like, "Man what's up with T-Bar?" And every WWE mark was like "Oh you need to watch Main Event on Hulu!" It'd help lol.

You making a self haha? Because you've done this very thing. :lol:

[Nash Diesel]

You making a self haha? Because you've done this very thing. :lol:

Yeah but I'm one of few, it's like me and mth lol. If we had more people doing it more people would probably tune in. I just watched Pete Dunne v. Akira.

[VHS]

Yeah but I'm one of few, it's like me and mth lol. If we had more people doing it more people would probably tune in. I just watched Pete Dunne v. Akira.

Akira, holy frick how is he still around?

[Mazer]

At certain points, I've directed people to Main Event. A while back, Ricochet had a good run there.


I just never argue that it impacts their place on the card.

[Horatio]

Akira, holy frick how is he still around?

The chin scratching emoji looks way el stupido in this case, but I did find this one, may be more apt: :nocare:

[Nash Diesel]

Akira, holy frick how is he still around?

You need to watch Main Event he just wrestled Pete Dunne. Raw is only 3 hours you can't expect these guys to bump the 4th recap of Riddle on a scooter.

[Nash Diesel]

At certain points, I've directed people to Main Event. A while back, Ricochet had a good run there.


I just never argue that it impacts their place on the card.

Ricochet is basically Mr. Main Event lol. He always seems to have these incredible series of matches with the same people. There was a stretch where he did 2-3 matches against the likes of Ali, Cedric, Morrison, someone else and they were back to back.

[JuveLeo]

A big downside of AEW is booking is when you really pay attention to some of the challengers for the World title and the women's title. They all kind of fall off and work with people 7-8 rungs down the ladder. What's Ruby Soho up to? What's Conti up to? Remember Nyla Jax? Me neither. I guess we need to watch more of Dark.

I've noticed that too. It's like "Hey good job on your title reign! Now down you go!" But I think a big reason for that is AEWs massive roster. They're trying to get everyone involved but they're so damn inflated.

[Sasori]

Yeah, with the size of their roster TK tends to cycle people in and out. He did say that he's going to be very picky about who he signs this year and with contracts starting to end for the AEW originals, things should feel less bloated as the year progresses.

[Horatio]

I've noticed that too. It's like "Hey good job on your title reign! Now down you go!" But I think a big reason for that is AEWs massive roster. They're trying to get everyone involved but they're so damn inflated.

I think they're also letting things develop organically and not just pushing who they want, but letting the fans decide. So far, I think someone's gotta prove to be more ove than Orange Cassidy before they really get to move up.

[Nash Diesel]

I think they're also letting things develop organically and not just pushing who they want, but letting the fans decide. So far, I think someone's gotta prove to be more ove than Orange Cassidy before they really get to move up.

I don't know about that. Who was wanting to see Ruby Soho come in and get that big push? There wasn't anything organic to that. She came in, first match she becomes #1 contender and now she's on youtube.

TK wants to cycle people out but he still has 2.0 main eventing almost every week since they were released from NXT. Rampage could use some different people.

[Horatio]

I don't know about that. Who was wanting to see Ruby Soho come in and get that big push? There wasn't anything organic to that. She came in, first match she becomes #1 contender and now she's on youtube.

TK wants to cycle people out but he still has 2.0 main eventing almost every week since they were released from NXT. Rampage could use some different people.
I don't know what Ruby was like pre-the E, so I don't know what anyone saw in her either. But didn't she debut the night Danielson also debuted and get a huge pop? Plus, she's got Rancid backing her up for added street-cred/credos.
I liked the highlight reel of her match with Alex Shelley, so I am at least up to see her now as opposed to when she was Riott Squad.

2.0 are a prime example of dudes wasted by WWE. They were always good and I don't think they've been too prominent in the last 6 months, but they were less likely to make a name on the indies, because their thing is nothing flashy. But why call them Ever Rise? Sounds like a Canadian boyband duo. Just call them Chip and Ethan, or whatever their names are. I can see them being the most unliked tag team in years, because they're so vanilla-is-my-favorite-fuck-you.

Vanilla is my favorite, too! :yesyes:

[Nash Diesel]

No you're thinking of that either chick Adam Cole who debuted the same night as Danielson.

The fact is, the more I see people try to make excuses for the likes of Ever Rise 2.0 the more I understand why very few people watch wrestling especially outside of the WWE.

[Horatio]

No you're thinking of that either chick Adam Cole who debuted the same night as Danielson.

The fact is, the more I see people try to make excuses for the likes of Ever Rise 2.0 the more I understand why very few people watch wrestling especially outside of the WWE.

Well, you're a Big Daddy Cool+Big Sexy mark times 2 (2.0 :lol:), the reason traffic around this place has grinded to a hault, so I can relate to what you're saying

[Bert]

https://i.imgur.com/tjudE9J.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/pMLNxdk.jpeg

[Nash Diesel]

LMFAO. What the hell is this dogshit? Did Biden put this together?

[Donald]

I hope WWE counters with a compilation of songs such as The Nation Theme, Akeem Theme, and Jive Soul Bro. I hope Koko B. Ware's theme is a bonus track.

[Tyrone]

Don't forget Sexual Chocolate. That's a must-have for any WWF/E fan's playlist.

[Nash Diesel]

I hope WWE counters with a compilation of songs such as The Nation Theme, Akeem Theme, and Jive Soul Bro. I hope Koko B. Ware's theme is a bonus track.

hahaha that would be awesome.

Have Koko B Ware come back and do a remake of Piledriver for the modern era fans.

[Nash Diesel]

Hopefully the beats are tight because AEW has some pretty awful entrance music.

[Bert]

I'll listen to MJFs theme on repeat before any of the trash Def Rebel has put out.

[Nash Diesel]

I'll listen to MJFs theme on repeat before any of the trash Def Rebel has put out.

Who gives a shit about Def Rebel? Their shit is whack too lol.

[Bert]

Well, they produce most of the themes WWE use.

Unless you're lucky and get to keep your CFO theme like Becky.

[Nash Diesel]

Well, they produce most of the themes WWE use.

Unless you're lucky and get to keep your CFO theme like Becky.

That's cool but who cares? There are a million producers out there. TK has unlimited cash. Who knows, these beats could be dope, I'll more than likely never know because I don't support this kind of bullshit.

But again, who gives a flying fuck about WWE's producers unless we're talking about Jimmy Hart or Jim Johnson. We're not.

[Bert]

Keith Lee
Mia Yim
Killer Kross
Scarlett
Ember Moon/Athena
Taya Valkyrie

Are all free to show up at AEW Dynamite tomorrow.

[Nash Diesel]

AEW=NXT 3.0

[Donald]

All those are signings that would give AEW easily 2 million weekly Dynamite viewers, especially Taya.

[Nash Diesel]

So at least 6 of those people will build their AEW career like everyone else that spent some time under Vince-talking shit about their experience lol.

[Bert]

Killer Kross hasn't really had anything negative to say about WWE.

[Nash Diesel]

Killer Kross hasn't really had anything negative to say about WWE.

Many don't until they get to another promotion that has a camera. Kross and Scarlett had a great interview with Renee Moxley. Give it time. He'll have some comment, some jab.

[Bert]

His interview with CVV was good too.

CVV always does good interviews though.

I really enjoyed the one with Wardlow.

[Donald]

They'll also appear on Talk WWE is Jericho.

[Nash Diesel]

His interview with CVV was good too.

CVV always does good interviews though.

I really enjoyed the one with Wardlow.

He does have some really good interviews but then sometimes he has some pretty odd ones. I think the first interview I ever watched of Chris' was the David Benoit interview.

[Nash Diesel]

They'll also appear on Talk WWE is Jericho.

lol. Jericho is the gossip queen of wrestling.

[mth]

His interview with CVV was good too.

CVV always does good interviews though.

I really enjoyed the one with Wardlow.
I watched that and as someone who did not care for Kross whatsoever, I found myself more supportive of him coming out of it. I didn't like his apocalyptic edgelord schtick and thought Scarlett was terrible but the dude seems like a good guy with an appetite for knowledge of the craft and a real creative mind and whatnot. I dig the guy even if I didn't dig the guy, ya know? Like I said in the other thread, give him that CK model look with a hot car and hot girl and make him like more like the main character of an action movie franchise, the guy every straight dude wants to be, and ditch the silly end times gimmick and I think he might be money.

[Horatio]

I watched that and as someone who did not care for Kross whatsoever, I found myself more supportive of him coming out of it. I didn't like his apocalyptic edgelord schtick and thought Scarlett was terrible but the dude seems like a good guy with an appetite for knowledge of the craft and a real creative mind and whatnot. I dig the guy even if I didn't dig the guy, ya know? Like I said in the other thread, give him that CK model look with a hot car and hot girl and make him like more like the main character of an action movie franchise, the guy every straight dude wants to be, and ditch the silly end times gimmick and I think he might be money.

I too like him as a dude but not a wrestler, although I think his in-ring has some upside. He was real cool on the Vampiro doc, the way he reacted to Jeff Jarrett's insanity. He seems very professional in his comments since he was released. I don't think he's the kind to burn bridges...

[Morrison]

https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1488690010865999878?t=gc4tRspwxk3D2FwTw4t3_A&s=19

brian kendrick faces mox tomorrow on dynamite.

[Bert]

Wow, that's really surprising.

[Bert]

https://youtu.be/rZs3FTOWOfI

[Bert]

https://youtu.be/oyyNC2_BWi8

This song is stuck in my head.

[mth]

https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1488690010865999878?t=gc4tRspwxk3D2FwTw4t3_A&s=19

brian kendrick faces mox tomorrow on dynamite.

Damn, that was a quick turn of events.

[Sasori]

Can't wait :hyper: I hope they both try putting on the bulldog choke.

[Ringo]

Damn solid card tonight. Hope we get a first Dynamite squash for Hook as well.

[Bert]

I wonder if Kross could should up to help MJF win and further increase tension with Wardlow. :chin:

I know they wanted him at the beginning of AEWs inception.

Could also do it with Keith Lee but I just feel like he's a better face.

[Tyrone]

They should just bring them all in then figure out what to do with them later.

[Mazer]

I liked mth's idea for Kross. Still ambivalent about bringing him.


I'm not really sure I would bring in anyone other than Keith Lee and maybe Bray right now. The roster doesn't need to get bigger.

[Matthew]

hope keith lee stays far away. boring.

[Mazer]

matthew, why do you hate entertaining matches?

[MTR]

Nice to see Spanky on Dynamite tonight. Feel bad it is against Moxley but lets see how the match goes and if this is one off or what with Kendrick.

I personally would like to see Kross go back to Impact. I worry about AEW picking up too many people and people getting lost in the shuffle. Already starting to happen.

I like Keith Lee. Big man that can move but I am more interested to see where Mia ends up

[MTR]

Looks like the weather is going to keep my daughter from going tonight. Bummer

[Nash Diesel]

One thing I want to mention that I forgot to last week is how scared Adam Page sounded when they announced his title defense against Hoyt was going to be a Texas Death Match.

I'm a fan of Adam Page I think the same way I was a fan of Jeff Jarrett. I always thought the WWF booked him the best. A top tier IC title contender who had a good tag run with Owen Hart. Adam Page is someone that I feel they wasted in a tag-team, he hasn't recovered from the momentum he lost back in August when he stepped away.

I feel like he's someone who they could've built the TNT title scene around but I get it....AEW has wanted Page, for whatever reason since day one to look like a star. Now it's another quick build with a crazy gimmick against someone who really hasn't been shit the entire time he's been in AEW. We have 2 guys who I think are probably meant for the tag-team/midcard world especially with Page acting shook about a TDM.

[Bert]

hope keith lee stays far away. boring.

On the mic, definitely.

[Matthew]

oh look im big but i'm agile!

yea yea yea so are all the other big guys now.

fuck off.

[Nash Diesel]

I'm in that same boat. It's cool sometimes to see a big man dive through the ropes or do a moonsault. It just depends on the moment now that damn near every larger wrassler does some type of high flying high risk OMG he shouldn't be able to do that because he's not small like Juventud type shit.

I guess what appealed to me about Keith Lee was that he had good matches with bigger guys. Dijack, Orton, Sheamus, Drew, he had some pretty damn good matches with them. But even Drew does a fucking dive lol.

[Bert]

Kendricks out because of conspiracy theories he talked about 11 years ago.

[VHS]

Discord link for Dynamiiiite!

https://discord.gg/AJUg3pDXue

[Nash Diesel]

Kendricks out because of conspiracy theories he talked about 11 years ago.

The death blows were his ignorance toward the Holocaust and Sandy Hook. I'll be honest, you can speak on a lot of conspiracy theories but if you start the whole Holocaust didn't happen/was "overblown" nonsense, you better hope all you get is "released".

Crazy thing is...was this known? Doing a quick google it sounds like it should've been on someone's radar. What an idiot.

[MTR]

Ouch.

[Hacksaw]

Oh dear.

[chatty]

Those videos have been on YouTube for a decade ain't they. I guess it only takes someone to take an interest and come across them again and boom your done.

Stupid as fuck but there's loads of conspiracy theorists with batshit crazy views out there. It would be an amazing gimmick tbf, could really get over as some psulychotic heel type. U fortunately this is just Kendrick being himself.

[Tainted Eclipse]

some wrestler believes goofy shit; who cares? let him wrestle. how lame.

[Horatio]

Life sucks

[Mazer]

oh look im big but i'm agile!

yea yea yea so are all the other big guys now.

fuck off.

Once again your loyalty to Khali blinds you.

If you didn't love his matches with djokavic, you don't respect yourself. And you probably don't think you're worthy of love.

So, I hope you reach out to people you love. This is a place of support

[Nash Diesel]

some wrestler believes goofy shit; who cares? let him wrestle. how lame.

I get that people like you, Bert, and...well that guy quit on you two so it's just the 2 Peanut Butters that have no shame in thinking Nyla Rosa was playing dinosaur or that America should look like the Soviet Union.

But who cares if he's a wrestler. He's saying some foul shit that he actually believes. It's easy to support these people behind a computer. I've beaned someone with a can of Dr Slice for talking ignorant about concentration camps. That's why it's so annoying hearing people compare their political affiliation with being a Jew in WW2 Germany.

[Nash Diesel]

Keith Lee is kind of like the big man Jerry Lynn. Only really ever had 1 truly great match (Dijack) and because of that one great opponent that means he's a top tier player.

[Bert]

The Kendrick shit is from 11 years ago and he seemed like a changed mature man when he came back for the CWC 5 years ago.

[Mazer]

Keith Lee is kind of like the big man Jerry Lynn. Only really ever had 1 truly great match (Dijack) and because of that one great opponent that means he's a top tier player.

Nash....it's OK to love.....it's not your fault.

[Nash Diesel]

The Kendrick shit is from 11 years ago and he seemed like a changed mature man when he came back for the CWC 5 years ago.

He seemed like a changed mature man based on what? How he appeared on the Network?

Hey man, I know you were still trying to not shit in your pants at this time but back in 1996, we all thought Jake the Snake was a born again Christian living the good life when in reality he was more fucked up on crack than ever. But hey, he SEEMED a changed mature man.

Honestly Peanut Butter, I don't care if you said that shit 20 years ago. I didn't vote for Biden based on something he said 30 years ago. But hey I'm sure to many he SEEMED like a change man until he talked to Charlamagne lol.

[Tainted Eclipse]

the first 15 minutes of punk/mjf were absolutely perfect. no reason for it to go this long.

[Hacksaw]

some wrestler believes goofy shit; who cares? let him wrestle. how lame.

Goofy shit is "the moon is made of cheese" not "the Holocaust wasn't so bad."

[Bert]

PEPSI PLUNGE

[Tainted Eclipse]

if the match ended at the fake finish or the roll up spot after the restart it would have been a MOTYC

[Bert]

MJF beat Punk twice in one night, that was great.

[BGMaverick]

I probably would’ve shaved 5-10 minutes off that match but it was a really good match. Had a lot of old school flair to it.

Danielson ran down those champions rather convincingly but there was a lot of truth to it. He certainly laid out a more convincing argument to Moxley to join something than Jericho did with his attempt of getting Moxley to join the Inner Circle.

[Bert]

Everyone wants the Danielson Dojo stable.

[Ringo]

Goofy shit is "the moon is made of cheese" not "the Holocaust wasn't so bad."

Ha, quite. "the gas chambers were for delousing" weeeeey so goofy what's he like eh?!

[Matthew]

Once again your loyalty to Khali blinds you.

If you didn't love his matches with djokavic, you don't respect yourself. And you probably don't think you're worthy of love.

So, I hope you reach out to people you love. This is a place of supporti had great matches with t-bar, too. not that difficult.

[Mazer]

i had great matches with t-bar, too. not that difficult.

While I will grant that your promo work was great, and you had some good high spots.....we both know your mat transitions were a bit sloppy.

[Matthew]

you know that is a lie

transitions is my middle name

mat transaitions thew

[Horatio]

Keith Lee's indy-rific look and in-ring tendencies are almost as bad as his smugness parade (Keith Lee as a heel is gonna be the exact same thing as him as a face, except someone will tell him to shut up).

That said, the coolest parts of his matches with Dijak were the meaty portions where they would slug it out.

The coolest big man I've seen on the indies is Bojack. Not a flippy big man like Keith Lee but he seems to have a good head on his shoulders.

[mth]

Bojack Horseman? In a tag team with Mr. Peanutbutter? What is this, a crossover episode?

[Horatio]

I really don't know!

Wtf are you talking about?
Bert?

[Matthew]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1412781289862799361/e7G2rWL9_400x400.jpg

[Bert]

I've never seen that guy before.

Is he better on the mic than Keith Lee?

[Nash Diesel]

That dude is definitely a fan of Awesome Kong.

[Mazer]

Don't worry, As soon as he comes to AEW his promo skills will automatically be perceived as better, because he's not part of the "wwe machine".

Tony Kahn is just that good.


matthew, we both know takedowns is your middle name. Single leg, double leg, doesn't matter

mat takedowns thew

[Matthew]

I've never seen that guy before.

Is he better on the mic than Keith Lee?i seen him on a gcw show, and he works for dpw as well (nL/Deadlock fed)

i don't know if he talks

[Nash Diesel]

One thing I'm noticing is that when you leave WWE and go to AEW, you must really like their catering in comparison because so many wrestlers wind up looking like shit within a matter of months. Jericho, Moxley, Adam Cole, Danielson was looking a little on the Steve Corino twilight side. I'm not someone who's in great shape and I'm not someone who thinks everyone should look like Wardlow. It's just something I noticed with the names I mentioned, especially Cole and Danielson. Cole's never been ripped, he's always looked fat skinny, but now he looks fucking horrible.

[Bert]

Danielson looks fine.

[Mazer]

I'm not someone who thinks everyone should look like Wardlow..

Then you're wrong. Yes, I mean everyone. Sammy....Hook.....Britt. All of them.




UE was never Evolution in terms of physical appearance. But they all appear to have slipped. i thought the same about Cody the other day. Looks like he's put on some weight. Somebody over there needs to get like a 15 minute ab blaster session going at tapings.

[Nash Diesel]

Danielson looks fine.

He's put on some AEW weight since Mania no doubt. Glad you agree on the others bro.


Then you're wrong. Yes, I mean everyone. Sammy....Hook.....Britt. All of them.




UE was never Evolution in terms of physical appearance. But they all appear to have slipped. i thought the same about Cody the other day. Looks like he's put on some weight. Somebody over there needs to get like a 15 minute ab blaster session going at tapings.

They all looked much better than any other time in their careers when they were in NXT. Look at Roderick. Dude is looking SWEET these days.

Yeah we need more people to look like Hook. The kid reminds me of when Mad Max kills Blaster. You see this huge frame, bad as fuck, and then under the mask it's the face of 3 year old. Taz and Hook=Master Blaster.

[Bert]

Moxley looks great back from rehab. Jericho may have quit drinking as well because he's looked better these last few weeks. Cole is not looking in as good of shape though. Probably too much time on twitch and not enough in the gym.

[Nash Diesel]

Moxley looks great back from rehab. Jericho may have quit drinking as well because he's looked better these last few weeks. Cole is not looking in as good of shape though. Probably too much time on twitch and not enough in the gym.

Moxley looks great compared to what? He looks pretty rough still. Just cuz he's not all bloated from the booze. He looks like he still hasn't kicked that meth habit.

[Mazer]

Roddy is looking good now. That's one advantage of NXT. With less travel, it has to be much easier to control your fitness regime.


I think Mox looks better than he is for a long time. still looks like he can legit go. Good for Renee. He's a solid 6 or 7 now.

but better for Mox. He married up. Which I can attest- a good strategy if you can pull it off.


I did actually think Jericho looked a little more defined in the face last night.


But still, Tony Kahn hates ab definition. It's the only plausible explanation.

[Bert]

I'm loving all these callbacks to other matches Punk is doing.

This time it was his own match.
https://streamable.com/xpz15q

[VHS]

One thing I'm noticing is that when you leave WWE and go to AEW, you must really like their catering in comparison because so many wrestlers wind up looking like shit within a matter of months. Jericho, Moxley, Adam Cole, Danielson was looking a little on the Steve Corino twilight side. I'm not someone who's in great shape and I'm not someone who thinks everyone should look like Wardlow. It's just something I noticed with the names I mentioned, especially Cole and Danielson. Cole's never been ripped, he's always looked fat skinny, but now he looks fucking horrible.

Not sexy enough for you, eh? Eh.

[Nash Diesel]

Roddy is looking good now. That's one advantage of NXT. With less travel, it has to be much easier to control your fitness regime.


I think Mox looks better than he is for a long time. still looks like he can legit go. Good for Renee. He's a solid 6 or 7 now.

but better for Mox. He married up. Which I can attest- a good strategy if you can pull it off.


I did actually think Jericho looked a little more defined in the face last night.


But still, Tony Kahn hates ab definition. It's the only plausible explanation.

Well here's the thing....AEW wrestlers for the most part travel less than NXT wrestlers. I don't see Adam Cole working 4-5 days a week I see him maybe working once. No excuse when you A-live nearby and B-have access to probably a much better area than what the PC can offer. The Jags aren't doing shit, get in there. See, Jericho talked about how much better catering in AEW is than WWE, he was talking about ribs, steaks, etc. No fuckin wonder Cole Bay Bay caved in. He was already a snizz.

Jericho we can let slide he's 50 and I think it's more about how he's quick to talk shit about everyone else we have to kinda dig at him.


I'm loving all these callbacks to other matches Punk is doing.

This time it was his own match.
https://streamable.com/xpz15q

That's one thing I always liked about Punk going back to the ROH days when he would "steal" Ricky Steamboat's arm drag just to piss him off. He's always paid homage to his idols. The Macho Man gear he rocked for awhile is one of my favorites.


Not sexy enough for you, eh? Eh.

I don't expect Jade Cargill's body on everyone but it feels like a lot of the talent who have made it to the top promotion kinda took a step back or six. You're a camera guy you should know more than anyone how important a look can be.

[VHS]

I don't base how ppl look on whether I find them sexually attractive though.

[kdestiny]

I think at the moment AEW talent as a whole travels more than NXT talent. NXT is still in one location.

[Mazer]

Not sexy enough for you, eh? Eh.


The show or these people individually?

[Mazer]

I think at the moment AEW talent as a whole travels more than NXT talent. NXT is still in one location.

Right
Comparing someone's NJPW/WWE/AEW appearance is probably close enough. Although ten years is doing a number on most people.


NXT is kind of in a different place than the others with opportunities to have a consistent life/schedule.


Still, AEW might want to cut down on the buffet line style and get a spin class going.

[Sasori]

Is NXT still doing it's shows in the performance center? If so, doesn't it have it's own gym? That's got to be a motivating factor when you can work out anytime you're there.

[BGMaverick]

Is NXT still doing it's shows in the performance center? If so, doesn't it have it's own gym? That's got to be a motivating factor when you can work out anytime you're there.

Yes, and yes.

[Murphy]

Enjoyed Punk and MJF, but yes, I too would have preferred it about 10 minutes shorter.

Bryan Danielson is so good.

I still miss Tazz at commentary. On Dynamite I mean, I do watch Rampage.

[Nash Diesel]

When was the last time you hear someone bitch about a wrestler's physical appearance looking "less than" when it comes to WWE as a whole? WWE travel more than any wrestling company and their talent still finds ways to get in the gym or workout in some fashion. The excuse that NXT has the PC means nothing when Matt Riddle is looking sweet, when Apollo Crews is looking sweet, when Randy Orton at 40 is looking better than guys 10-15 years younger.

AEW doesn't even drug test so what's stopping Adam Cole from getting supplements that WWE won't allow and do it the old fashioned way?


I don't base how ppl look on whether I find them sexually attractive though.

I'm sure there are people you do, quit trying to be argumentative. You obviously want to know if you're sexually attracted to me considering how desperate you are to get my personal social media info.

[Mazer]

Certainly a lot of people in WWE stay disciplined, and overall they are upper echelon in physical appearance.


but if you're looking for one exception....He was never a body guy, but I think Sami Zayn is having more pie since joining the brand.

[VHS]

When was the last time you hear someone bitch about a wrestler's physical appearance looking "less than" when it comes to WWE as a whole? WWE travel more than any wrestling company and their talent still finds ways to get in the gym or workout in some fashion. The excuse that NXT has the PC means nothing when Matt Riddle is looking sweet, when Apollo Crews is looking sweet, when Randy Orton at 40 is looking better than guys 10-15 years younger.

AEW doesn't even drug test so what's stopping Adam Cole from getting supplements that WWE won't allow and do it the old fashioned way?



I'm sure there are people you do, quit trying to be argumentative. You obviously want to know if you're sexually attracted to me considering how desperate you are to get my personal social media info.

Give me your twitters, you sexy coward.

[Nash Diesel]

Certainly a lot of people in WWE stay disciplined, and overall they are upper echelon in physical appearance.


but if you're looking for one exception....He was never a body guy, but I think Sami Zayn is having more pie since joining the brand.

I think Sami has recovered from last year he took time off due to Covid for months. But yeah like you said he was never really a body guy. Most of his career he was another skinny fat guy.

[Sasori]

Does it really matter how someone looks if they can deliver on the mic and in the ring? AEW runs the gamut in terms of physical appearance. You've got body guys like Pac, Wardlow, and Bowens mixed together with 90 lbs soaking wet guys like Cassidy, Darby, and Fuego. Then there's the guys who aren't swole, but still in great shape like Sammy, Andrade, and Starks. And lastly there's chubby guys like Kingston and Hardy. I like that the company isn't full of talent that looks like they all came out of a factory.

[Bert]

https://i.imgur.com/iOsNOnh.jpeg

SCOOPS.

[Mazer]

Does it really matter how someone looks if they can deliver on the mic and in the ring? AEW runs the gamut in terms of physical appearance. You've got body guys like Pac, Wardlow, and Bowens mixed together with 90 lbs soaking wet guys like Cassidy, Darby, and Fuego. Then there's the guys who aren't swole, but still in great shape like Sammy, Andrade, and Starks. And lastly there's chubby guys like Kingston and Hardy. I like that the company isn't full of talent that looks like they all came out of a factory.

it can help. I don't think everyone needs to be Lex Luger from the early 90s. However, I don't think it hurts to look really fucking strong and/or in-shape.

Not saying there's not a place for the Owens and Hooks.

But if you see a Jade Cargill or a Randy Orton, there's something to be said for the visual reaction to people who just don't look like someone you're going to meet at your local gym. Helps sell the larger than life aspects.

[Bert]

Oh it just crossed mine that on the flip side of looking worse Evil Uno and Santana and Ortiz have all leaned out since they started in AEW.

I expect Eddie Kingston to be the next guy to get in better shape.

[Bert]

“Just in the last several weeks, we’ve made some big ones and I plan to make some more big signings. Not in the long-term future, I mean in the short-term future. I’ll still be active in the free agent market and the forbidden door shall be opening again very soon. I guarantee you we’ll be making news out of tonight’s show and then we’ll have some big news next week too.

I wonder if they wait for Keith Lee til Revolution.

Also I hope the forbidden door thing means Josh Alexander wasn't brought up for no reason on Dynamite.

[Mazer]

Oh it just crossed mine that on the flip side of looking worse Evil Uno and Santana and Ortiz have all leaned out since they started in AEW.

I expect Eddie Kingston to be the next guy to get in better shape.

Kingston?

Surprising prognostication to me. He more falls into the body type works okay for him, looks believable enough at a midcard level.

[Bert]

Kingston?

Surprising prognostication to me. He more falls into the body type works okay for him, looks believable enough at a midcard level.

He wants a world title run and knows he needs to get in shape to look the part.

[Morrison]

i feel like he's already gotten into better shape since he debuted against cody, but yeah, i don't know that he'll ever NOT be a bit on the chub side, which i'm all for. the all japan vibes he gives off as this schleppy dude who will backfist your neck in half is definitely a part of his appeal, to me.