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Nash Diesel
December 11th, 2021, 6:32 PM
Like I said...It doesn't matter if you're Bryan Danielson or CM Punk or Ruby Riott. Everyone in AEW is on the same level.

Hook has one match and the trolling begins lol.

Bert
December 11th, 2021, 6:36 PM
People have been hyped for Hook for a long time and he's been training at the nightmare factory and create a pro.

Everyone's not on the same level.

Badger
December 11th, 2021, 7:38 PM
Chuck Norris got nothing on him.

Hooker Texas Ranger!

Psycho666Soldier
December 11th, 2021, 7:47 PM
I could be like, "Let's not lie, Hook looked really good for a debut, but he's a long way to go before he's truly a star"

But that's no fun

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGVR5gvXoAULWV4?format=jpg&name=small

Badger
December 11th, 2021, 7:51 PM
Hook of the Table

BGMaverick
December 12th, 2021, 12:09 PM
Nice debut for Hook. His theme was confusing at first but it’s got some potential.

Donald
December 12th, 2021, 12:53 PM
Its ranked #99 on my list of impressive debuts.

Murphy
December 13th, 2021, 7:46 AM
I thought he was great on commentary. He doesn't take himself seriously at all. Tazz singing Ruby Soho is one of the best parts of AEW 2021.


Tazz's commentary is always a highlight when I tune in.

We all know Donald is trolling, right? I mean, why else would he even post in this thread?

Matthew
December 13th, 2021, 8:40 AM
winter is almost here

Badger
December 13th, 2021, 10:00 AM
Winter already arrived in TNA back in 2010. Didn’t last long!

Bert
December 13th, 2021, 10:55 AM
I'm excited for the show but we'll be leaving right after it's over to go to STL for my wife to be induced so I'm probably going to have to watch it again sometime after. Not sure how much I'll be able to really pay attention. :panic:

I'm not crazy, I didn't plan it that way. It just so happens they said be at the hospital at 10pm, AEW is over at 9pm, and it's like a 40min drive.

I feel like at the very least we get a KOR debut. Still holding out hope for Windham although it feels like a long shot. Everyone talks about how stacked the roster is, and it is, but some of the contracts from 2019 aren't going to get renewed so I think there's more room that way and then you have a roster with a higher tier of wrestlers that are over already and know how to work TV that you can rotate in and out if people get burnt out or need personal time.

I'll post the road to video when it comes out tomorrow or Wednesday but I can't guarantee I will in the future so anyone who likes them should go sub to AEW on youtube. They're good videos and they're getting close to 3 million subscribers.

Or just start looking at squaredcircle on reddit more often. They always land on the front page of that.

Tim
December 13th, 2021, 11:24 AM
I watched some of Rampage and while Hook seems athletic he looks like he’s 14 and the fans chanting hooks gonna kill you seems super premature. It reminded me of Taz debuting in WWE with all of this bad ass hype just to show up looking like an over cooked hot dog in a one piece bathing suit.

Nash Diesel
December 13th, 2021, 11:35 AM
I watched some of Rampage and while Hook seems athletic he looks like he’s 14 and the fans chanting hooks gonna kill you seems super premature. It reminded me of Taz debuting in WWE with all of this bad ass hype just to show up looking like an over cooked hot dog in a one piece bathing suit.

Imagine it's 1997 ECW and there's Taz in the ring cutting a promo about Sabu. All the sudden out comes Hook.

If you thought the Mass Transit situation was bad.

Hook has shown zero skill. He's been around for a grip and every time he's gotten physical, usually got his ass kicked lol. But the crowd chants he's going to kill someone. Who? The 2-49 guy? Wow. Deadly. Hook belongs on Cobra Kai as the son of Mike Barnes.

BGMaverick
December 13th, 2021, 11:40 AM
Looking forward to being in the building Wednesday. Should be a big fight feel for the main event.

Badger
December 13th, 2021, 1:58 PM
Imagine it's 1997 ECW and there's Taz in the ring cutting a promo about Sabu. All the sudden out comes Hook.

If you thought the Mass Transit situation was bad.

Hook has shown zero skill. He's been around for a grip and every time he's gotten physical, usually got his ass kicked lol. But the crowd chants he's going to kill someone. Who? The 2-49 guy? Wow. Deadly. Hook belongs on Cobra Kai as the son of Mike Barnes.

Zero skill is probably a bit harsh as though admittedly it was Fuego, the guy did show some skill. I think the chants/praise for Hook is probably a combination of genuine praise/laughter that it has taken them this long to debut him. His physical look is his look and not much can be done about that. It’s not all pisstake but also agree he does have some ways.

Not everyone taking him seriously could be a good hook for him (pun intended).

Bert
December 13th, 2021, 3:18 PM
https://youtu.be/EfvotYmt0ZY

These interviews are always great. This guy doesn't take anything seriously. I was dying at the one with MJF where he made Brandon lower his chair.

Vandal
December 13th, 2021, 4:25 PM
Winter already arrived in TNA back in 2010. Didn’t last long!

Speaking of TNA, I am seeing reports that Jimmy Rave died today.

Badger
December 13th, 2021, 5:32 PM
Speaking of TNA, I am seeing reports that Jimmy Rave died today.

Particularly horrible streak of luck. He had both his legs amputated not that long ago either.

RIP

Nash Diesel
December 13th, 2021, 5:33 PM
Zero skill is probably a bit harsh as though admittedly it was Fuego, the guy did show some skill. I think the chants/praise for Hook is probably a combination of genuine praise/laughter that it has taken them this long to debut him. His physical look is his look and not much can be done about that. It’s not all pisstake but also agree he does have some ways.

Not everyone taking him seriously could be a good hook for him (pun intended).

I'm over fans trying to be in on the "joke".



Speaking of TNA, I am seeing reports that Jimmy Rave died today.

Yeah very sad. The guy had been having multiple health issues that were very serious pile up one after another. I believe he had both his legs and one of his arms amputated.

Badger
December 13th, 2021, 5:43 PM
I'm over fans trying to be in on the "joke".

I know part of it is a joke, but I think part of the reaction is that he did surpass some expectations. They were probably prepared to laugh “at” him either way but I think this is more laughing “with” him more a bit.

Regardless there’s something interesting there. Obviously there’s a lot of work to do there but intrigued now to see what they do with him as from first impression, he’s not going to be a totally comedy jobber (I don’t think). Give it more time before judging is what I’d say.

Badger
December 13th, 2021, 5:48 PM
I could be like, "Let's not lie, Hook looked really good for a debut, but he's a long way to go before he's truly a star"

But that's no fun

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGVR5gvXoAULWV4?format=jpg&name=small

This.

Nash Diesel
December 13th, 2021, 6:48 PM
I know part of it is a joke, but I think part of the reaction is that he did surpass some expectations. They were probably prepared to laugh “at” him either way but I think this is more laughing “with” him more a bit.

Regardless there’s something interesting there. Obviously there’s a lot of work to do there but intrigued now to see what they do with him as from first impression, he’s not going to be a totally comedy jobber (I don’t think). Give it more time before judging is what I’d say.

That last part is basically why I'm calling out these absurd reaction from fans. Trolling or not, having fun or not, How about some of you eat your own words and give it time before acting like this was so incredible?

Some AEW fans really want everything to be great. I respect that but when you pretend like this is the 2nd coming of Ronda Rousey....let's stop with the nonsense. "Give it more time before judging"

VHS
December 13th, 2021, 7:04 PM
Let people enjoy things.

Hook's debut was a good one. I knew next to nothing about him and thought eh this kid's kinda tiny yeah? But he seems to be comfortable in his movement, his look will adapt over time and... he's a clean slate. Witnessing the very beginning of a second generation wrestler is always a yes from me. They kept it short and sweet, no fat to trim or anything. Just gets in there and demolishes Fuego. Can't wait to see how he performs against bigger opponents which is like.. everyone lol, but he's going to grow into this just fine fingers crossed. When I look at him I'm reminded of how Jungle Boy looked when he first started at AEW. On the indie scene here here was just a fit kid, but when standing next to folks on TV he needed to bulk up and he's slowly doing that. Hook's only in his early 20's so over time he's going to naturally bulk up.

I haven't seen anyone calling him the 2nd coming of anything, but I don't follow the same social media routes as everyone else. Was his debut a stinker? Absolutely not. Was is a good debut? Yeah. :yes:

Badger
December 13th, 2021, 7:12 PM
Let people enjoy things.

Hook's debut was a good one. I knew next to nothing about him and thought eh this kid's kinda tiny yeah? But he seems to be comfortable in his movement, his look will adapt over time and... he's a clean slate. Witnessing the very beginning of a second generation wrestler is always a yes from me. They kept it short and sweet, no fat to trim or anything. Just gets in there and demolishes Fuego. Can't wait to see how he performs against bigger opponents which is like.. everyone lol, but he's going to grow into this just fine fingers crossed. When I look at him I'm reminded of how Jungle Boy looked when he first started at AEW. On the indie scene here here was just a fit kid, but when standing next to folks on TV he needed to bulk up and he's slowly doing that. Hook's only in his early 20's so over time he's going to naturally bulk up.

I haven't seen anyone calling him the 2nd coming of anything, but I don't follow the same social media routes as everyone else. Was his debut a stinker? Absolutely not. Was is a good debut? Yeah. :yes:

I was in the middle of saying something similar but well done for saving me some effort. :yes:

As he’s one always to quash on AEW fans being enthusiastic, I’m not sure he entirely gets the nuance that people in this case are having a laugh but also impressed with Hook at the same time. :yes:

VHS
December 13th, 2021, 7:14 PM
Hook's already more over than CM Punk. That's an absolute fact.

Badger
December 13th, 2021, 7:27 PM
Hook's already more over than CM Punk. That's an absolute fact.

Have him “hook” the tights and do laps around the ring like Foley after one-upping the Rock with his own catchphrase!

VHS
December 13th, 2021, 7:28 PM
Book that shit, Tony.

Nash Diesel
December 13th, 2021, 9:48 PM
Let people enjoy things.

Hook's debut was a good one. I knew next to nothing about him and thought eh this kid's kinda tiny yeah? But he seems to be comfortable in his movement, his look will adapt over time and... he's a clean slate. Witnessing the very beginning of a second generation wrestler is always a yes from me. They kept it short and sweet, no fat to trim or anything. Just gets in there and demolishes Fuego. Can't wait to see how he performs against bigger opponents which is like.. everyone lol, but he's going to grow into this just fine fingers crossed. When I look at him I'm reminded of how Jungle Boy looked when he first started at AEW. On the indie scene here here was just a fit kid, but when standing next to folks on TV he needed to bulk up and he's slowly doing that. Hook's only in his early 20's so over time he's going to naturally bulk up.

I haven't seen anyone calling him the 2nd coming of anything, but I don't follow the same social media routes as everyone else. Was his debut a stinker? Absolutely not. Was is a good debut? Yeah. :yes:

Why can't you just let me enjoy things and not go out of your way to say the complete opposite? It's weird. I used to think it was weird when that one dude used to follow you around and bust your balls after every post but now I see that he was who you really wanted to be. Who was that, Slare, The Mike, One Ball? It was one of those guys.

Anyway VCR, take your own advice. Quit pretending like a weirdo. We get it, you're life sucks brother that's why you do the gimmick posting. If you don't feel like you fit the category of AEW fan that I'm speaking on why defend it?


I was in the middle of saying something similar but well done for saving me some effort. :yes:

As he’s one always to quash on AEW fans being enthusiastic, I’m not sure he entirely gets the nuance that people in this case are having a laugh but also impressed with Hook at the same time. :yes:

Yes, because of all people to speak on your behalf it's VHS.

And that last part is your opinion. I don't give a shit if you're being half serious, I literally said I'm sick of certain fans who want to be in on the "joke".

Bert
December 13th, 2021, 9:51 PM
Amanda Huber wrote an article for the players tribune and I really think everyone should read it. I don't get emotional much, but it got to me.

I guess today would have been her 10 year anniversary with Brodie.
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/amanda-jon-huber-wrestling-aew

Badger
December 13th, 2021, 10:25 PM
Why can't you just let me enjoy things and not go out of your way to say the complete opposite? It's weird. I used to think it was weird when that one dude used to follow you around and bust your balls after every post but now I see that he was who you really wanted to be. Who was that, Slare, The Mike, One Ball? It was one of those guys.

Anyway VCR, take your own advice. Quit pretending like a weirdo. We get it, you're life sucks brother that's why you do the gimmick posting. If you don't feel like you fit the category of AEW fan that I'm speaking on why defend it?



Yes, because of all people to speak on your behalf it's VHS.

And that last part is your opinion. I don't give a shit if you're being half serious, I literally said I'm sick of certain fans who want to be in on the "joke".

VHS speaking on my behalf and me agreeing with him is not really the point Iím making tbh.

The real point to make here is, although you seem to maybe half-realise that this Hook thing is part of a joke, you still think this is like kinda like a victory for pointing this out like you know better for all your wisdom. Reason I quoted PsychoÖ the people who have commented on the Hook thing are not stupid. Yet not just this but you seem to take anything people are even slightly over a 50% positive about the AEW product and say ďAh wait donít get your hopes up.Ē You seem like Yokozuna more than Diesel here just ready to Bonzai drop on anything that is at the least you think is considered too positive despite saying youíre a big AEW and general wrestling fan yourself.

At least Donald doesnít really hide the fact heís trolling but you put yourself over like the biggest fan of all things wrestling including AEW yet youíre generally the first in this thread to think you are trying to bring people back to reality when you know just like this Hook thing, people just want to enjoy and have a good time. Itís a half-joke but they are aware but you have to be the wet blanket to rain on everyoneís parade because theyíre happy.

Just an insight and youíll probably just look for people being too positive again but you know, you could just chill and let people enjoy if theyíre being a bit hyperbolic. The intelligent posters know that really. Just chillax with the rest.

Tyson
December 14th, 2021, 2:21 AM
Amanda Huber wrote an article for the players tribune and I really think everyone should read it. I don't get emotional much, but it got to me.

I guess today would have been her 10 year anniversary with Brodie.
https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/amanda-jon-huber-wrestling-aew

That was a difficult but worthwhile read, absolutely heartbreaking.

Sasori
December 14th, 2021, 2:45 AM
I was about to post something, but ended up writing and essay. The short version is that we need more love and positivity in the world. We don't need to bicker about wrestling of all things. It's not that serious. To quote a couple of wise dudes.

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/51244476/be-excellent-to-each-other.jpg

Mazer
December 14th, 2021, 2:49 AM
Looking forward to being in the building Wednesday. Should be a big fight feel for the main event.

That should be a pretty good live event

Bert
December 14th, 2021, 7:48 PM
https://youtu.be/hxpFonYQUtE

Nash Diesel
December 14th, 2021, 8:06 PM
The intelligent posters know that really. .

The intelligent posters like yourself? Ok.

Nash Diesel
December 14th, 2021, 8:07 PM
https://youtu.be/hxpFonYQUtE

Rooting for Danielson but Wangman is probably going to take it.

Mazer
December 14th, 2021, 9:17 PM
Look, I was doing hook hyperbole before it was cool. Or even related to anything other than his existence. Now all you Peter pan cynics and lost boy come lately fanboys are having your go of it.

And it saddens me.

Because y'all motherfuckers are still sleeping on Marko.

He's the next generation's answer to Rey Mysterio, and he's going to take lucha to a place you've all never seen before.

Badger
December 14th, 2021, 9:37 PM
The jungle?

I want them to do a cinematic match for Jurassic Express actually in a jungle.

Donald
December 14th, 2021, 10:41 PM
Only if they all get eaten by piranhas or anacondas.

Tyson
December 14th, 2021, 11:27 PM
My bad, wrong thread.

Nash Diesel
December 15th, 2021, 11:35 AM
We need the backstory for Jurassic Express.

Bert
December 15th, 2021, 1:17 PM
https://i.imgur.com/v2jl6RJ.jpeg

HOOK

Donald
December 15th, 2021, 1:28 PM
Wish they'd provide numbers. For all I know 10 people could have bought a hook shirt, with 9 or less buying the other 9

Nash Diesel
December 15th, 2021, 1:33 PM
Wish they'd provide numbers. For all I know 10 people could have bought a hook shirt, with 9 or less buying the other 9

Pretty much. I mean if we go off what Badger thinks, nobody really likes him so why would anyone buy his shirt? Maybe he's like James Ellsworth when his shirt blew the fuck up.

Badger
December 15th, 2021, 1:36 PM
Pretty much. I mean if we go off what Badger thinks, nobody really likes him so why would anyone buy his shirt? Maybe he's like James Ellsworth when his shirt blew the fuck up.

Except I never said anything of the sort. I said they still liked him for his debut but also playing it up for a laugh a bit.

Nash Diesel
December 15th, 2021, 1:44 PM
Except I never said anything of the sort. I said they still liked him for his debut but also playing it up for a laugh a bit.

You said it with your eyes.

Hook came out and the key demo changed.

VHS
December 15th, 2021, 2:41 PM
Hook sold more shirts than CM Punk which means he's more over than CM Punk.

Bert
December 15th, 2021, 2:42 PM
What kind of weird ass reverse trolling playing both sides nonsense is this, VHS?

VHS
December 15th, 2021, 2:53 PM
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ZealousFortunateAmericanredsquirrel-size_restricted.gif

Nash Diesel
December 15th, 2021, 3:15 PM
VHS and Bert. Snuggle Buddies in the AEW thread but a little different in the Asylum threads.

Bert knows I would piss on him if he were on fire even if he's a Trumper. VHS would be like "Well at least he likes AEW" as Bert dies a slow death.

Donald
December 15th, 2021, 3:47 PM
Unless he comes out to Blues Traveler - Hook, I don't give a shit about him.

Bert
December 15th, 2021, 5:07 PM
VHS is a weird dude but I'm confident in my ability to not be on fire and not be on fire in Iowa.

Nash Diesel
December 15th, 2021, 6:53 PM
VHS is a weird dude but I'm confident in my ability to not be on fire and not be on fire in Iowa.

The implication that our only interaction would require you to be in my home state is ridiculous Bert.

You never leave the house and studies show most people who burn alive are house fire related deaths.

Mazer
December 15th, 2021, 6:58 PM
VHS is a weird dude but I'm confident in my ability to not be on fire and not be on fire in Iowa.

Someone's getting real fucking cocky about their ability to not catch fire.

VHS
December 15th, 2021, 7:37 PM
Discord for Dynamite eyyyy: https://discord.gg/UQHHyybZ

Bert
December 15th, 2021, 8:39 PM
Someone's getting real fucking cocky about their ability to not catch fire.

Well, I'm not Cody Rhodes.

Mazer
December 15th, 2021, 8:53 PM
Well played

Tainted Eclipse
December 15th, 2021, 9:10 PM
wonder if they'll do an hour draw

Bert
December 15th, 2021, 10:07 PM
Wow.

Bert
December 15th, 2021, 10:28 PM
"Now you're so much more than a King."

:hyper:

Tainted Eclipse
December 15th, 2021, 10:42 PM
the second hour really kind of has felt like a rampage episode

Psycho666Soldier
December 15th, 2021, 11:03 PM
Yeah, the second half wasn't nearly as exciting as the first match, but holy fuck what a match it was!

VHS
December 15th, 2021, 11:05 PM
Second hour was a forgettable sequel.

Bert
December 15th, 2021, 11:14 PM
I'm disappointed in the lack of Briscoes. I still feel like they're coming though, KOR and Brody King too.

Bert
December 15th, 2021, 11:15 PM
Also TK forgot to give any info on the Owen Hart tournament.

BigAl
December 16th, 2021, 9:41 AM
"Now you're so much more than a King."

:hyper:

I didn't understand this reference. Who is it supposed to be?

BigAl
December 16th, 2021, 9:42 AM
Really, really enjoyed the Hangman/Danielson match but that was about it for me. The MJF/Martin match had its moments but the ending really took me out of it.

Vandal
December 16th, 2021, 10:12 AM
I didn't understand this reference. Who is it supposed to be?

Brody King

Donald
December 16th, 2021, 10:33 AM
I'd be frustrated if I watched a match for an hour only for it to end in a draw. Isn't this the second time that's happened to Daniel Bryan?

Nash Diesel
December 16th, 2021, 10:35 AM
That was a clinic. Incredible from bell to bell. Proud of the crowd for hanging in there. If you're not putting Hangman in your top 5 of 2021 you're missing out. I was actually watching this seeing him surpass Danielson. I was 200% wrong in thinking it'd be cool if Danielson won. Who's excited for what's next? Me.

Nash Diesel
December 16th, 2021, 10:38 AM
I'd be frustrated if I watched a match for an hour only for it to end in a draw. Isn't this the second time that's happened to Daniel Bryan?

The great thing about this match is like with other hour long classics like Omega/Okada for example, it didn't feel like an hour. The draw....Best booking decision you could make honestly. DANIELSON might not be the #1 wrestler in the company after seeing Page evolve so much in that match. It makes me wish I had been there live for that match instead of the Kenny Omega/Page title match. Omega's great but he's not Danielson or Page. It's like comparing Triple H to Kurt Angle. One guy is very good, the other incredible.

Mazer
December 16th, 2021, 10:41 AM
I still want a Heel Dragon reign. And I will sullenly undervalue and diminish everything else (except Hook) until it happens

Badger
December 16th, 2021, 2:41 PM
Phenomenal match no doubt and booking and storyline- wise probably the right decision but at the same time, it still feels like they blew their load not doing this on PPV. No matter what stip they come up with next, itíll be hard to top that.

Just feels like this couldíve been served for a better occasion then see what happens next, especially when the second half was so meh.

Psycho666Soldier
December 16th, 2021, 2:45 PM
I trust they can follow up for a rematch. The match was great. I don't think it really matters whether it's on TV or not.

Badger
December 16th, 2021, 2:59 PM
I trust they can follow up for a rematch. The match was great. I don't think it really matters whether it's on TV or not.

Oh the rematch will no doubt be great, just a feeling of mine that they gave away too much too soon in the opener. They could’ve slow-built it a bit more, put this on the ending of a PPV then make fans salivate more to see them settle the score at the next PPV.

I know hot openers do work but I think that should’ve been saved for the end of a show as the crowd will probably be shattered to fully take in what’s next and what was served after that while not necessarily all bad it no doubt was hard for them to get as invested.

Another take is just to let the ring be MJF’s thing for now and not waste yearly battle royals on it. It’s his thing now to the point where if he loses it, it’ll be so long gone it’s beyond care.

Nash Diesel
December 16th, 2021, 4:02 PM
They were probably worried they couldn't sustain viewership if the first hour sucked. It's the same reason they put CM Punk matches on first.

AEW doesn't really have anything to lose so Psycho is right in the sense that it doesn't matter if it's on tv or not. People don't really buy ppv these days and you're trying to get ratings. That's how we wound up with jobbers being non-existent for the most part. Now it's every week a big match that you'd expect to be a ppv match. Plus AEW only does 4 ppvs a year-which shows they don't give a shit about that model. No different than WWE-do you think if they cared about "ppv" they'd give it away for free?

Badger
December 16th, 2021, 4:24 PM
They were probably worried they couldn't sustain viewership if the first hour sucked. It's the same reason they put CM Punk matches on first.

AEW doesn't really have anything to lose so Psycho is right in the sense that it doesn't matter if it's on tv or not. People don't really buy ppv these days and you're trying to get ratings. That's how we wound up with jobbers being non-existent for the most part. Now it's every week a big match that you'd expect to be a ppv match. Plus AEW only does 4 ppvs a year-which shows they don't give a shit about that model. No different than WWE-do you think if they cared about "ppv" they'd give it away for free?

He is right from that sense but from a business point of view, more could have paid for that instead of making it so easily accessible.

Tbf I think there are flaws on both ends of their models here. WWE I think do too many PPV shows on top of their normal TV shows (eg Raw being three hours every week!). I think AEW recognise that “less is more” a bit but when it does come to their PPVs, though only 4 a year they are so long at 4 hours a pop that when they do come around plus the big matches they could’ve saved for PPV are given away a bit. WWE are guilty of that same thing as well.

I honestly think the old WWE/F model was simple and straightforward. Once a month as long as they kept the storylines straightforward. Though saying that, the network/TV pressure to put on weekly shows is vastly different now to back in the day.

Defrost
December 16th, 2021, 5:02 PM
That rating is rough. Think it's time to get that belt off Hangman and probably on Punk. Kenny looking better in hindsight.

Tainted Eclipse
December 16th, 2021, 6:14 PM
They certainly haven’t done a good job making page feel like a star on the tv since he won the belt

VHS
December 16th, 2021, 6:15 PM
I'm happy Page is champion because it means Omega isn't anymore. But yeah... put it on Punk or Bryan plez.

Sasori
December 16th, 2021, 6:21 PM
That match was too good for TV, but I'm still glad they did it. Winter is coming is one of their contracted specials, so they needed a big match. Danielson continues to over deliver and Hangman had no problem keeping up.

Badger
December 16th, 2021, 6:23 PM
Page beating Omega to put a book-end to that crescendo from a storyline perspective made a lot of sense, but while that was a great feel-good moment and can see what they’ve been trying to do, his gap while Danielson has been destroying the Dark Order has hurt them. He should be trying to fuck Danielson up the minute that first match happened…hell even during his promo.

He should have been Stone Colding Bryan’s arse right after that promo and after every match Bryan went too far but no just let him sit back and have Bryan destroy his buddies. It’s not compelling TV really just having him sit on his arse.

Badger
December 16th, 2021, 6:32 PM
While Page more than delivered on that match, the build-up with him was pish. If they did that better then maybe just maybe ratings/interest might have improved.

Vandal
December 16th, 2021, 6:41 PM
:cool:

https://youtu.be/0cB6F1qcr54

Nash Diesel
December 16th, 2021, 6:51 PM
While Page more than delivered on that match, the build-up with him was pish. If they did that better then maybe just maybe ratings/interest might have improved.

What did people think the rating was going to be? Wasn't it right around a million? That's literally all they can pull.

Badger
December 16th, 2021, 7:02 PM
What did people think the rating was going to be? Wasn't it right around a million? That's literally all they can pull.

Tbh going a lot on what Defrost said about the rating (haven’t looked up the actual number tbf) but guessing the TV and what this number turned out to be could have maybe been improved if they built the storyline better than what they did in the build up.

Nash Diesel
December 16th, 2021, 7:16 PM
Tbh going a lot on what Defrost said about the rating (haven’t looked up the actual number tbf) but guessing the TV and what this number turned out to be could have maybe been improved if they built the storyline better than what they did in the build up.

It seems that no matter how good or bad a storyline is it doesn't really move the needle that much. They're hovering around 900,000-1 million viewers consistently on TV. I don't know how you got all that from Mr New Japan wishing Kenny Omega hadn't lost the title to Page and CM Punk should get it now.

Nash Diesel
December 16th, 2021, 7:17 PM
I'll be honest I thought Defrost was just being a smart ass. You know like how everyone is about Hook.

Badger
December 16th, 2021, 7:23 PM
Besides all that, why you so hardass about people having a laugh about Hook? If Tazz was Dr Honeydew, it’s like an athletic Muppet Beaker breaking out of his shell kicking arse! I thought Sheamus pulled off the Beaker look but Hook does it good!

Badger
December 16th, 2021, 7:28 PM
You get Hager as Sam and you got a helluva (sorry Donald) feud here!

Nash Diesel
December 16th, 2021, 7:37 PM
Besides all that, why you so hardass about people having a laugh about Hook? If Tazz was Dr Honeydew, it’s like an athletic Muppet Beaker breaking out of his shell kicking arse! I thought Sheamus pulled off the Beaker look but Hook does it good!

So I can't have a laugh about people having a laugh about Hook?

Why are you acting so loose butthole about everything? Do you think this is a safe space?

Badger
December 16th, 2021, 7:45 PM
So I can't have a laugh about people having a laugh about Hook?

Why are you acting so loose butthole about everything? Do you think this is a safe space?


I'm over fans trying to be in on the "joke".

Seems like you’re being the loose butthole here when we’re having a laugh.

Badger
December 16th, 2021, 8:08 PM
Nash, instrad of trying trying to have a laugh about how you think people are being silly when they’re not being really serious, why not chill and be silly with us instead of being passive-aggressive? Though you know your wrestling shit, this could make you around here…well more likeable. Mellow out man! Just a thought.

Nash Diesel
December 16th, 2021, 8:12 PM
Nash, instrad of trying trying to have a laugh about how you think people are being silly when they’re not being really serious, why not chill and be silly with us instead of being passive-aggressive? Though you know your wrestling shit, this could make you around here…well more likeable. Mellow out man! Just a thought.

I appreciate your thoughts.

Nash Diesel
December 16th, 2021, 8:13 PM
Seems like you’re being the loose butthole here when we’re having a laugh.

Nothing but tight butthole vibes over here my man. Just not trying to be told how to post in a thread. Come on man, 10-15 years I've been posting and popularity was never my thing my guy.

Badger
December 16th, 2021, 8:30 PM
Nothing but tight butthole vibes over here my man. Just not trying to be told how to post in a thread. Come on man, 10-15 years I've been posting and popularity was never my thing my guy.

We know. I could question further why you still post when you’re more than aware that it ingratiates people but not the right thread for this so you continue to do what you do and we end this.

PS Hook over Sammy!

Bert
December 16th, 2021, 9:57 PM
https://i.imgur.com/QGFijuQ.png

Bert
December 16th, 2021, 9:58 PM
Ad with no pip is what made people change the channel.

Donald
December 16th, 2021, 10:12 PM
Wrestling is a dying breed. It will take a crossover star to ever change the needle. All the stars they have now pro wrestling fans love, not the average Joe.

Badger
December 16th, 2021, 11:10 PM
Wrestling is a dying breed. It will take a crossover star to ever change the needle. All the stars they have now pro wrestling fans love, not the average Joe.

Average Joe has not posted for some time, and tbh his jokes were as bad if not worse than yours. :yes:

Btw still helluva not forgotten what you said though mellowed out!

Murphy
December 17th, 2021, 5:27 AM
That match was awesome and so glad I watched it on FITE. Adverts would have really taken away from it.

Nash Diesel
December 17th, 2021, 10:38 AM
We know. I could question further why you still post when you’re more than aware that it ingratiates people but not the right thread for this so you continue to do what you do and we end this.

PS Hook over Sammy!

You need to stop speaking for people. This whole "we" thing. If you only post here as some lame attempt at being popular, you need to unplug and look into finding a new vice. Maybe get a job, a girl/boy, a life, I'm pretty sure your profession isn't message board friend maker.

PS-Who cares.

Badger
December 17th, 2021, 10:49 AM
:lol:

Nash Diesel
December 17th, 2021, 10:54 AM
I'll be here all night and don't forget to tip your bartender. And pick up a free copy of my new cd-Soy Boys: The Cancer of AEW.

Nash Diesel
December 17th, 2021, 10:55 AM
Speaking of the club, instead of Roderick Strong Jr's mom dropping him off in the van she should've dropped him off at the club so he could get that hair back.

Donald
December 17th, 2021, 11:31 AM
I wonder if Adam Page's sex video will be called "Ram Page"

Badger
December 17th, 2021, 11:34 AM
I wonder if Adam Page's sex video will be called "Ram Page"

I thought that was the title of Xavier Wood’s one:

https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/b37/095/d6c622b6294a5306cdd5eb82b86e3d5aa3-09-b99.rsquare.w700.jpg

Donald
December 17th, 2021, 11:36 AM
Well then, he'll have to call it "Adam Good Time With Wangman"

Murphy
December 17th, 2021, 11:42 AM
I thought that was the title of Xavier Wood’s one:

https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/b37/095/d6c622b6294a5306cdd5eb82b86e3d5aa3-09-b99.rsquare.w700.jpg

:spit:

So there's an 8 man tag tonight on Rampage and a 10 man tag. Wild.

BGMaverick
December 17th, 2021, 11:50 AM
So there's an 8 man tag tonight on Rampage and a 10 man tag. Wild.

They were wild in very different ways. I'm curious how the finish for the 10-man comes across because it seemed wonky in the moment. The submission match seemed pretty good too.

Danielson was such a great heel during the match. There was definitely a stretch where the crowd just stood up for a good chunk of the match and it wasn't near the finish. Definitely a fun ride.

Bert
December 17th, 2021, 1:15 PM
https://i.imgur.com/E8GsAzS.jpeg

So I guess that's the announcement they ran out of time for on Dynamite.

VHS
December 17th, 2021, 1:32 PM
hell yeah :yes:

Nash Diesel
December 17th, 2021, 1:44 PM
That's perfect. Homage to the King of Harts by having two KOTR tournaments. Extremely excited to see who will be part of it. One of the best parts of AEW is the amount of tournaments we get a year. I wish more companies would follow suit.

Shout out to Tony Khan because this should make people want to check out "Tony Time" more often. A huge announcement like this honoring Owen Hart and his family and they just had too much going on that was stellar on Dynamite--they transition it to Tony Time to get us to check that out. I'm not really sure what Tony Time is in AEW, I know what it is in WWE and I like it.

Bert
December 17th, 2021, 2:23 PM
Well there will be more info on Rampage. I wouldn't be surprised if we get a few debuts of men and women during this tournament. I'd be surprised if they overlooked Ember Moon/Athena as long as she's healthy. Keith Lee would be the other one I'd expect. Their non-competes were up like 1st week of February though so I guess it all depends on when the tournament is.

Nash Diesel
December 17th, 2021, 2:42 PM
This would be a great time to debut David Benoit. Keep it Canadian heavy. Do any of the Harts have kids/grandkids trying to break in?

I wonder when Killer Kross' non-compete will be up. Keith Lee, future AEW World champion. If he came in through that tournament he should win it.

Matthew
December 17th, 2021, 3:25 PM
i hope it's a one night tournament

VHS
December 17th, 2021, 6:03 PM
Yeah, one night bada bing bada boom. Less risk of the thrill being gone over time.

JuveLeo
December 17th, 2021, 7:02 PM
I'm excited to see it. Also intrigued to see who participates. We might see a few surprises

Tyson
December 18th, 2021, 8:52 AM
Are the winners going to be guaranteed title shots? AEW’s version of the MITB briefcase?

Bert
December 18th, 2021, 8:20 PM
i hope it's a one night tournament

Maybe if it's like 8 people each they could have a men's week of Dynamite and a women's week where they have the semi finals on Rampage?

It's not til May so who knows what the roster looks like then with a lot of guys and girls non-competes up in February and some peoples contracts undoubtedly not getting renewed.

Part of me hopes they have main stars in it more but I'll understand if they don't.

Mazer
December 19th, 2021, 2:37 AM
When the bucks and Cole deliver the 3 way super kick, it just looks awkward for Bobby Fish.

At least let him do a countdown or something. Poor guy looks like he's not been invited to the super kick party

Bert
December 19th, 2021, 5:51 AM
It's his super kick party and he'll cry if he wants to.

Bert
December 19th, 2021, 6:20 AM
I already know what The Bucks will say to Adam Cole when he betrays them:

Et Tu, Baybay?

Sasori
December 19th, 2021, 10:26 PM
Yeah, one night bada bing bada boom. Less risk of the thrill being gone over time.

Feels like the tournament to crown the first TBS champion has been going on forever. My interest has been steadily declining every week.


When the bucks and Cole deliver the 3 way super kick, it just looks awkward for Bobby Fish.

At least let him do a countdown or something. Poor guy looks like he's not been invited to the super kick party

Bobby is the designated driver. No superkicks for him.

Mazer
December 21st, 2021, 7:00 PM
Does Cornette really like Hook or is he just trying to up his credibility with the AEW fanbase?

Nash Diesel
December 21st, 2021, 9:39 PM
Does Cornette really like Hook or is he just trying to up his credibility with the AEW fanbase?

If I'm understanding the Hook reaction it's that people are purposely being tongue in cheek that he's incredible but in reality he's just pretty good for where he's at in experience.

Mazer
December 21st, 2021, 10:01 PM
Yes..... you know. But does Cornette know?

Bert
December 22nd, 2021, 1:18 AM
https://youtu.be/oAAMV4c1kVw

Tainted Eclipse
December 22nd, 2021, 9:58 AM
Does Cornette really like Hook or is he just trying to up his credibility with the AEW fanbase?

Hook didnít do any crazy spots he just executed the fundamental extremely well, not hard to believe Cornett likes him so far

Mazer
December 22nd, 2021, 11:32 AM
that's very fair.

Donald
December 22nd, 2021, 11:40 AM
If he wasn't Tazz's son he would be in backyard wrestling.

Badger
December 22nd, 2021, 11:46 AM
If he wasn't Tazz's son he would be in backyard wrestling.

I know you hate everything wrestling right now Donald but I get the feeling you’d enjoy him if you gave him a chance Donald. He is generous and willing to give away potato chips unless you’re cold Donald Martin and turn on him!

Donald
December 22nd, 2021, 12:08 PM
I like his hair

Badger
December 22nd, 2021, 12:10 PM
I like his hair

His hair is tremendous! Too many guys these days getting it cut short.

Donald
December 22nd, 2021, 12:59 PM
His hair is tremendous! Too many guys these days getting it cut short.

Yeah like that goof Titan.

Nash Diesel
December 22nd, 2021, 2:01 PM
The same people who genuinely like Hook, who are fans, are the same people who were mad Crash won the Oscar.

Badger
December 22nd, 2021, 2:19 PM
The same people who genuinely like Hook, who are fans, are the same people who were mad Crash won the Oscar.

Well he won the Hardcore title and did a pretty good job in the day avoiding his detractors in hotel rooms, airports and Funland ball zones!

Mazer
December 22nd, 2021, 2:35 PM
Ahhhh,,,,,that one made me laugh.

Badger
December 22nd, 2021, 2:55 PM
Ahhhh,,,,,that one made me laugh.

Damnit what am I doing? I’m trying too hard to be popular! Nash sorry please forgive me!

Donald
December 22nd, 2021, 3:23 PM
Hook didn't win an Oscar.

Badger
December 22nd, 2021, 3:29 PM
Hook didn't win an Oscar.

Roman wasn’t built in a day before he got to where he was. Give Hook time!

Mazer
December 22nd, 2021, 4:18 PM
Hook didn't win an Oscar.

Dustin Hoffman did though. As did Robin Williams. Isn't that just like Hook winning an Oscar?


The answer is no.

Nash Diesel
December 22nd, 2021, 4:27 PM
Damnit what am I doing? I’m trying too hard to be popular! Nash sorry please forgive me!

Someone had a little too much fun at the Christmas party.

Nash Diesel
December 22nd, 2021, 4:28 PM
Dustin Hoffman did though. As did Robin Williams. Isn't that just like Hook winning an Oscar?


The answer is no.

I love the Hook movie poster where instead of putting Taz's son as Capt Hook they photoshopped his head on Peter Pan's body........That's like having a group shot of the Justice League and you photoshop Hurricane Helms' head on Batman.

Badger
December 22nd, 2021, 4:35 PM
Someone had a little too much fun at the Christmas party.

I’m fine. I’ll be here all night and don’t forget to tip your bartender!

Bert
December 22nd, 2021, 4:36 PM
https://i.imgur.com/PDsl7Mv.jpeg

All caps when your write HOOK.

Badger
December 22nd, 2021, 4:55 PM
I would blame capitalism for this but probably should be the other way about.

Mazer
December 22nd, 2021, 5:08 PM
If you're really doing the opposite of blaming capitalism for Hook's christmas work commitment, you are crediting Hook for capitalism's holiday pto policies.

Mazer
December 22nd, 2021, 5:10 PM
I love the Hook movie poster where instead of putting Taz's son as Capt Hook they photoshopped his head on Peter Pan's body........That's like having a group shot of the Justice League and you photoshop Hurricane Helms' head on Batman.

Hurricane Helms would have been the 6th best Batman

Nash Diesel
December 22nd, 2021, 5:12 PM
I’m fine. I’ll be here all night and don’t forget to tip your bartender!

Only if they're serving eggnog and wings.

Badger
December 22nd, 2021, 6:43 PM
Only if they're serving eggnog and wings.

Which came first? The wings or the eggnog?

Mazer
December 22nd, 2021, 7:28 PM
Until I hear otherwise, let's agree that Bert named his son HOOK, and while his wife was pushing, he was standing there yelling "SEND HOOK!"

Badger
December 22nd, 2021, 7:39 PM
Until I hear otherwise, let's agree that Bert named his son HOOK, and while his wife was pushing, he was standing there yelling "SEND HOOK!"

Unless Bert tells or sends us a video otherwise, I am otherwise satisfied that his childbirth went down like this! :yes:

Donald
December 22nd, 2021, 7:49 PM
Hook was born the same month Owen Hart died.

Mazer
December 22nd, 2021, 8:04 PM
What are you implying Donald?

Badger
December 22nd, 2021, 8:13 PM
Corporate merger. The Owen Hook tournament!

Celebrate two birds with one stone!

Bert
December 22nd, 2021, 8:17 PM
https://i.imgur.com/oKM6z41.jpeg

Tainted Eclipse
December 22nd, 2021, 8:49 PM
All caps when your write HOOK.

HOOK vs. KENTA caps on the line

Badger
December 22nd, 2021, 8:52 PM
HOOK vs. KENTA caps on the line

PUNK runs in to help HOOK spinning off to a GTS vs GTS match. SAMMY may or may not be included. I’ll go with not.

Bert
December 22nd, 2021, 9:22 PM
Yay KOR

Badger
December 22nd, 2021, 9:50 PM
I bet mth is HOOKED now!

Bert
December 22nd, 2021, 10:32 PM
All the face paint is great.

Mazer
December 22nd, 2021, 10:45 PM
Who (realistically) should Bryan get as judges?

The guy who played Dr. Shelby?
Brie's mom?

Sasori
December 22nd, 2021, 10:50 PM
Ruby looked like she was legit in pain. I wondered how long her shoulders would hold up. Hopefully it's not serious.

The break up of Cole and the Young Bucks is accelerating faster than I thought. I know they like to book things long term, but I give it a couple months tops before someone turns.

Donald
December 22nd, 2021, 11:31 PM
Kor in aew is about as exciting as a hook debut

Bert
December 22nd, 2021, 11:41 PM
So really fucking exciting is what you're saying.

Donald
December 22nd, 2021, 11:47 PM
Yes.

Nash Diesel
December 23rd, 2021, 12:53 AM
https://i.imgur.com/oKM6z41.jpeg

We just left the theater and my son said "didn't OG Spiderman look like CM Punk 2021?"

Ringo
December 23rd, 2021, 6:56 AM
I kind of go back and forth on KOR. There are times where I really like him and think he's by far the best and most interesting of the Undisputed Era guys. But then there's also times that he bores the shit out of me. Fish & O'Reilly work well together anyway. They'll be good to have around, I just don't particularly want to see them featured as one of the top acts.

I feel like there have been a few times where there's a kid dressed as Orange Cassidy in the front row and he's either not seen them or just ignored them. He got a reaction for giving the kid a fist bump this week. He should definitely go over to them before the match a la Bret or Rey Mysterio.

Danielson continues to knock absolutely everything he does out of the park. Page as champion isn't quite working for me yet but they're trying and he could still grow into the role. We'll see.

Looking forward to these Owen Hart tournaments. Neat video with all the different wrestlers talking about him.

Main event was a lot of fun. Loved the special face paint and how star studded it all felt. A proper TV main event and appropriate for the arena and city they were in. I'd like to see more multi-person tag matches on TV featuring alliances between AEW's bigger stars.

Badger
December 23rd, 2021, 10:44 AM
Matching Pinnacle trunks were neat as well.

Also like the slow burn they’re continuing to do with Wardlow.

BGMaverick
December 23rd, 2021, 11:19 AM
Since AEW does accept the past from other places as cannon, I'm curious to see how they navigate the fact the last time we saw Cole and KOR together, they were trying to kill each other.

Nash Diesel
December 23rd, 2021, 11:26 AM
They'll just say that it was a script and in AEW they don't have to follow a script.

Bert
December 23rd, 2021, 5:35 PM
Broke a million.

.37 demo

Nash Diesel
December 23rd, 2021, 6:00 PM
Oh they're about to break a million tonight buddy.

Man remember when companies could barely get a million views. Sting and CM Punk are proof they're the biggest draws in wrestling. When are we getting painted up CM Punk on Ringside????

Now's the perfect time to have Syxx and The Outsiders show up for a 6-man and we finally get a match involving the GOATs of the last 30 years Nash and Punk.

mth
December 23rd, 2021, 6:52 PM
I bet mth is HOOKED now!

I did watch HOOK's debut. It was pretty good. Seems like he's got potential. Can he talk?

As for KOR being in AEW. Enjoy, AEW fans. Wish the UE gang had all gone there a couple years sooner so they weren't clogging up the NXT spotlight for so long. Certainly not going to help get my eyes on their product. Will be curious, like BG said, to see if they acknowledge the Cole/KOR feud from WWE. if I had to guess, I'd say they'll say they "worked things out in the ring" and that the feud/matches were how they worked through and resolved their issues.

Bert
December 23rd, 2021, 6:52 PM
I don't understand why mth hates good wrestlers.

Nash Diesel
December 23rd, 2021, 7:01 PM
mth I'm with you dude and you know this....maaaaaaaaaaaaaan

As a wrestling fan with no blind brand loyalty, I felt UE made NXT weak and look at Fish and Cole in AEW. Cole went from main eventing to getting kissed by Trumpers. Bobby Fish...well...he's always been pretty brittle so good luck on him lasting another week. Shocked he's made it 5 matches without blowing his ACL and collecting a check for another 12 months.

mth
December 23rd, 2021, 7:13 PM
I don't understand why mth hates good wrestlers.
Doesn't matter if you can kill it between the bells if you're the most bland-ass generic gang of internet darlings in the biz (and no, KOR becoming a cringe-fest hipster dweeb didn't help his case). Hopefully Roddy follows his boys over soon.

Bert
December 23rd, 2021, 7:13 PM
Bucks are Trumpers? No wonder they're so awesome.

Peter Griffin
December 23rd, 2021, 7:36 PM
Doesn't matter if you can kill it between the bells if you're the most bland-ass generic gang of internet darlings in the biz (and no, KOR becoming a cringe-fest hipster dweeb didn't help his case). Hopefully Roddy follows his boys over soon.

I'm given to believe he resigned this year. Not that it really matters these days :lol:

mth
December 23rd, 2021, 7:38 PM
On the plus side as it pertains to Roddy, I like everyone else in Diamond Mine so that helps.

Badger
December 23rd, 2021, 9:39 PM
Bivens is good on the mic. I like the Creed Bros and Ivy. I forget the other dude’s name and still don’t know what the point of him is.

Bert
December 23rd, 2021, 9:43 PM
On the plus side as it pertains to Roddy, I like everyone else in Diamond Mine so that helps.

This is what I mean: you prefer green dudes who barely can wrestle, creed bros, over dudes who can put on clinics, ue, it makes no sense.

VHS
December 23rd, 2021, 10:37 PM
Fish: boring
KOR: disappointing
Cole: fuck off

Fish, KOR and Cole tho… that’s the pumpkin pie with extra whipped cream. :)

mth
December 23rd, 2021, 11:44 PM
Bigness is good on the mic. I like the Creed Bros and Ivy. I forget the other dude’s name and still don’t know what the point of him is.
Yeah, Hachiman is still a mystery to me. Unless he's legit coaching off camera, i do not understand why they pay him.

This is what I mean: you prefer green dudes who barely can wrestle, creed bros, over dudes who can put on clinics, ue, it makes no sense.
I dig Creed Bros.'s style and I like seeing what new fresh folks have to offer. As far as UE clinics go, I refer back to my previous post. Clinics are boring if I don't give a damn about those putting them on and UE never did anything to make me invested in them as characters and then they went on to overstay their welcome.

Donald
December 24th, 2021, 1:22 AM
Bigness is good on the mic. I like the Creed Bros and Ivy. I forget the other dude’s name and still don’t know what the point of him is.

Roderick Strong?

Donald
December 24th, 2021, 1:23 AM
Am I in a nxt thread or aew

Badger
December 24th, 2021, 5:53 AM
It’s an NXT invasion.

Dreyski
December 24th, 2021, 9:46 AM
Hoping for Gargano next :fingersx:

Bert
December 24th, 2021, 11:53 AM
Hoping for Gargano next :fingersx:

Cleveland show at the end of January.

Mazer
December 24th, 2021, 12:06 PM
I could go for a proper invasion angle.


You know TK's ego is going to demand he gets a heel run.

BigAl
December 24th, 2021, 2:03 PM
I have a sneaky suspicion my wife got me tickets for the Bridgeport show.

Tainted Eclipse
December 25th, 2021, 10:38 PM
didn't realize rampage was on at 9 tonight until halfway through the show. missed the hook match :cry:

Bert
December 25th, 2021, 11:15 PM
didn't realize rampage was on at 9 tonight until halfway through the show. missed the hook match :cry:

https://waaw.to/f/mwYiOBwaraBQ

BGMaverick
December 26th, 2021, 2:49 AM
Hook still looked nice in his second match. The no-sell of the spiked driver was less than ideal but the crowd was all about it. I do think the embracing of Tommy Conlon from Warrior fits his aesthetic. If you haven’t seen that movie, you should. It’s quite good. Anyway, like Conlon, Hook just gets his business done and then walks right to the back. I dig it.

Cody just spammed the hell out of Guevara there at the end lol.

Tainted Eclipse
December 26th, 2021, 11:13 AM
https://waaw.to/f/mwYiOBwaraBQ

it's unreal how fucking good everything he does looks. genuine prodigy.

Badger
December 26th, 2021, 11:15 AM
Just need Cody to unbreak that “never change for the AEW title ever again rule” and double champ!

VHS
December 26th, 2021, 12:25 PM
Hook no selling the driver tho… wtf. :no:

Vandal
December 26th, 2021, 2:33 PM
HOOK is going to be a STAR!

Mazer
December 26th, 2021, 3:07 PM
After watching this weekend, I hope that one of the vets is prepping HOOK for the inevitable backlash.

Bert
December 26th, 2021, 7:14 PM
Hook no selling the driver tho… wtf. :no:

https://twitter.com/andrescmz/status/1474945431935361032?t=D5uhTgayxYO4K5qQoHos0Q&s=19

VHS
December 26th, 2021, 9:47 PM
https://twitter.com/andrescmz/status/1474945431935361032?t=D5uhTgayxYO4K5qQoHos0Q&s=19

I didn’t know Bear Bronson is Jerry Lawler’s son, that’s so cool.

Bert
December 27th, 2021, 8:16 AM
I didnít know Bear Bronson is Jerry Lawlerís son, thatís so cool.

Why would that be necessary? Punk and Darby did the whole 123 kid/Bret sequence for their match and neither are related.

chatty
December 27th, 2021, 5:29 PM
Hook reminds me of a poor Pete Dunne tbh.

Nash Diesel
December 27th, 2021, 6:31 PM
One of the best parts about AEW is that they are heavy with the nostalgia. Like Bert mentioned, the Punk/Darby match using the Bret/123 Kid sequence or this more recent attempt at a callback to 20 years ago with the Taz-JR-Lawler angle. Every week I get reminded me of something from my late teens/early 20's.

Hook should get chokeslammed by Luchasaurus next week and just pop right up. I'd say Big Show but it's bad enough we had to believe John Silver could be competitive against Danielson.

VHS
December 27th, 2021, 6:37 PM
One of the best parts about AEW is that they are heavy with the nostalgia. Like Bert mentioned, the Punk/Darby match using the Bret/123 Kid sequence or this more recent attempt at a callback to 20 years ago with the Taz-JR-Lawler angle. Every week I get reminded me of something from my late teens/early 20's.

Hook should get chokeslammed by Luchasaurus next week and just pop right up. I'd say Big Show but it's bad enough we had to believe John Silver could be competitive against Danielson.

What's wrong with looking competitive though? Silver got in some moves, but never did it seem like he stood a chance against Danielson. Bryan beat the crap out of him mostly through a commercial break and didn't even lose his man bun once the match was over.

As for Hook, I really really hope he's not booked like Goldberg or something. I like the dude, but if no selling becomes his thing then eh... I'm going to walk the plank with the guy real quick.

Nash Diesel
December 27th, 2021, 6:44 PM
What's wrong with looking competitive though? Silver got in some moves, but never did it seem like he stood a chance against Danielson. Bryan beat the crap out of him mostly through a commercial break and didn't even lose his man bun once the match was over.

As for Hook, I really really hope he's not booked like Goldberg or something. I like the dude, but if no selling becomes his thing then eh... I'm going to walk the plank with the guy real quick.

What's wrong with Silver looking competitive or just looking competitive in general? Well, look at your comments about Hook. That's why. You start saying stupid shit and then follow it up with your answer.

VHS
December 27th, 2021, 8:11 PM
Meh meh meh, be a grouchy goose then.

Mazer
December 27th, 2021, 10:03 PM
I'm ditching my Hook hyperbole and now looking forward to the inevitable IWC disowning.

Bert
December 27th, 2021, 10:57 PM
I will always love HOOK.

VHS
December 28th, 2021, 12:40 AM
Captain... that... is the point!

JuveLeo
December 28th, 2021, 6:19 AM
This Hook hype seems to be real. I watched a bit of his match on YouTube. Was impressed at his work. Not bad for a inexperienced kid. Is he any good on the stick?

Nash Diesel
December 28th, 2021, 3:06 PM
This Hook hype seems to be real. I watched a bit of his match on YouTube. Was impressed at his work. Not bad for a inexperienced kid. Is he any good on the stick?

Phenomenal. Just like his dad.

What I want to know is, can he fight or is he bitch made like his pops? Everyone in the business knows Taz was a fake tough guy that's why he was careless in the ring because he had to make up for it being 5'3" and only tough in judo in the 80's.

Or showing his dick at the tanning salon to teens.

Donald
December 28th, 2021, 3:20 PM
Nash I know is being sarcastic about his AEW praise. I think Bert too. No way anyone really enjoys this. Only thing that is interesting in AEW is that Abadon. But I think she only wrestles on YouTube.

Tyrone
December 28th, 2021, 3:41 PM
Hook is like watching NXT 2.0 to me. I'm really not sold on the kid, but he's new'ish so I'll give it time. I may regret it, but at least I'll wait patiently and hope he develops.

BGMaverick
December 28th, 2021, 3:47 PM
He's possibly (probably) underqualified to be on Rampage but he's clearly got a following, so he could potentially be "overqualified" to be on Dark. He serves a better purpose to be on Rampage.

VHS
December 28th, 2021, 4:09 PM
Hook is still one of the guys to watch for me. Definitely out of the bunch of fodder they have, he's towering over the rest.

Donald
December 28th, 2021, 4:17 PM
He'd be more impressive if he didn't look like he'd blow away on a windy day.

Mazer
December 28th, 2021, 4:23 PM
I accept Bert's statement that he will always love HoOk. And more power to him for enjoying what he wants to.


For the rest of the IWC, it will follow a pattern we've all seen before.

1.Tongue in cheek statements.

2k The person shows competence, people enjoy it and get excited.

3. The excitement gets beyond what is earned.
-Here's where I'm sure some will disagree with me. hoOK has some entertaining points to his matches. Definitely good for a beginner. And he has a character. All positives. He's still not produced any match beyond what I can see on any given episode of 205 live. His build is not great. He has had no real feuds, and no memorable mic work. His level of contribution does not merit being a top pop or merchandise mover.

4. The counter movement starts in opposition to the popular sentiment.

5. The counter opinion becomes the dominant opinion (not universal, but dominant).



We've all seen this before, and know how the movie goes.

Nash Diesel
December 28th, 2021, 4:48 PM
The one thing about some of the AEW hardcores is that they will try to prove all of that wrong. They'll try to go against the norm and be accepting of things that usually wouldn't be for an extended period of time.

Mazer
December 28th, 2021, 5:31 PM
They've just had now had the tenure to start forming their own counter-culture vs. their existence being the counter-culture.


If I'm wrong....well, honestly I probably won't care that much....but I will be moderately surprised. And you can bring it up at random times.




Like I bring up your Peyton Royce predictions.

VHS
December 28th, 2021, 5:52 PM
Not a biggy, but I wish Moriarty went over Spears on Dark. Lee is super bankable as an up and comer.

Mazer
December 28th, 2021, 6:10 PM
Gotta build Spears up to take the first part of the Wardlow feud, I reckon.

VHS
December 28th, 2021, 7:29 PM
Oh yeah, that. Eh... yeah, I suppose so.

Nash Diesel
December 28th, 2021, 9:35 PM
They've just had now had the tenure to start forming their own counter-culture vs. their existence being the counter-culture.


If I'm wrong....well, honestly I probably won't care that much....but I will be moderately surprised. And you can bring it up at random times.




Like I bring up your Peyton Royce predictions.

Peyton Royce-first ever WWE and Impact Women's tag-team champion.

In regards to the first part of your post I agree and we're already seeing it. Some fans are coming to AEW shows acting like there's a substitute lol. Think about...Fuck the Jim Cornette inspired signs that we're seeing more and more of, how about signs like "I Love Twinks" or "Nyla Rose Is That Guy's Dad" ?

I love watching AEW but I have no real desire to be part of that fanbase. The nice thing is more and more fans are becoming more subjective with what they're going out of their way to praise. The same people who go and shit on a WWE fans for their blind allegiance will excuse every negative from Jacksonville Dixie and his band of live action Jakks figures.

Bert
December 28th, 2021, 11:02 PM
https://youtu.be/IeI7nbG_FiA

Vandal
December 29th, 2021, 9:52 AM
Jim's thoughts on HOOK second match.


https://youtu.be/ITvNP3BqXxw

Bert
December 29th, 2021, 2:58 PM
https://youtu.be/G6PcO8G0fC4

Nash Diesel
December 29th, 2021, 3:05 PM
Bert what'd you think of Greensboro? I saw you on camera.

Bert
December 29th, 2021, 3:32 PM
As if I have enough sleep to drive that far.

Nash Diesel
December 29th, 2021, 4:09 PM
As if I have enough sleep to drive that far.

As if driving is the only means to NC.......

Donald
December 29th, 2021, 4:26 PM
Greensboro is a couple of hours away from me. Still wouldn't go to an AEW show.

Mazer
December 29th, 2021, 6:08 PM
I enjoy AEW shows.


But I am also a fan of Anti-AEW Donald.


SO MANY COMPLEX EMOTIONS.

Mazer
December 29th, 2021, 6:10 PM
Also....

I like MJF. I'm enjoying Wardlow. And I'm generally positive to Sean Spears.


But I am not looking forward to Wardlow/Spears, and am surprisingly ambivalent to the eventual Wardlow/MJF.


Hope to be wrong.

Nash Diesel
December 29th, 2021, 6:12 PM
Spear is terrible. And he's married to Peyton Royce....How? The guy is old enough to be her dad.

Mazer
December 29th, 2021, 6:17 PM
I guess 10 wasn't just a nickname.


HEY OH

Donald
December 29th, 2021, 6:38 PM
What a daft name, Shawn Spears.

VHS
December 29th, 2021, 6:59 PM
Spear is terrible. And he's married to Peyton Royce....How? The guy is old enough to be her dad.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CkHJxPAKLc

He's 11 years older than her.

Donald
December 29th, 2021, 7:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CkHJxPAKLc

He's 11 years older than her.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_fathers%2314_years_old&ved=2ahUKEwja1JzDkIr1AhUPk2oFHRaTAr4QFnoECAQQBQ&usg=AOvVaw0kwFpHyLtBxaDeWcnlg4md

Bert
December 29th, 2021, 7:23 PM
As if driving is the only means to NC.......

Good luck getting a flight right now.

Mazer
December 29th, 2021, 9:37 PM
That's a nice chair spears has tonight.

Classy looking

Sasori
December 30th, 2021, 1:23 AM
I've missed reDRagon's theme.

Bert
December 30th, 2021, 3:04 AM
Nice to see an addition to the women's roster. I thought she signed to Impact.

I was surprised Jade won but I guess Rosa will be going for the bigger title so it makes sense.

Matthew
December 30th, 2021, 8:45 AM
And I'm generally positive to Sean Spears.
get out

Mazer
December 30th, 2021, 9:36 AM
All you 2016 nxt fans turn your backs so quickly.

Matthew
December 30th, 2021, 10:24 AM
my back was always turned. like his has always been turned on charisma

Tainted Eclipse
December 30th, 2021, 10:41 AM
he's good in his role right now, which is essentially to make you commiserate with wardlow over how annoying it is that he's always hanging around. i also appreciate how much he leans into the stupid chair gimmick.

Nash Diesel
December 30th, 2021, 11:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CkHJxPAKLc

He's 11 years older than her.

I'm well aware smart guy.

BGMaverick
December 30th, 2021, 12:32 PM
Looks like Mercedes Martinez is officially in AEW now.

Donald
December 30th, 2021, 1:20 PM
I feel like they sign a new person every week.