All Elite Wrestling

[VHS]

Tony Khan doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that would tell Page not to be present for the birth of his first child.

[Bert]

Evil Uno. Booking still matters.

[Hero!]

Do you think the title gets people more money? Do they get it from the pay window?

:lol::lol::lol:

[Hero!]

Tony Khan doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that would tell Page not to be present for the birth of his first child.

the guy who signed a 9-year-old to a contract so that the family of one of his talent who tragically died could still have an income…yeah, can’t see him telling page “if you don’t skip out on being dad, you’re never getting this belt for fake fighting”

[Psycho666Soldier]

I would imagine being a part of The Elite already meant he was probably making one of the biggest wages in the company.

[Slare]

On the Page stuff. Firstly - I have 2 kids and there's a 0.0 percent chance i would miss the birth. It's not just the birth, I'm guessing he takes a couple of weeks or months off to be there in the early days - so even if he DID do All Out, it would be hard to capitalise on it in the immediate aftermath.

That being said, i think the pivot is a cocktail of things.

First - you don't want this title change to be overshadowed by anything else. When it happens, it has to be THE thing happening, absolute focus. Punk/Bryan muddy the waters in that respect, so while the build was perfect for all out - sometimes other things come up and having the ability and wherewithall to adapt in hopes of doing it RIGHT and not just doing it because it was the plan, is commended.

Second - the story is about hangman accepting failure and being okay with it. Deciding he wants the title, going on a tear and then winning the title doesnt complete that story. Now he has failed, the Dark Order has failed. This is the end of act 2 in a film if you like, the bottom of the valley. Now its about him not only failing, but accepting that failure and coming back even stronger. Obviously that's a narrative you're almost writing as you go due to other, real life circumstances but works for me.

Third - there is a LOT of money to be had in Bryan and Punk vs Omega in respective title matches. Got to strike on those while you can. Have OMEGA beat them both by nefarious means and then you have Cowboy somehow win the title match back for full gear or Revolution and win it. Hes beaten the guy NOBODY else, not even Punk or Omega could beat.

AEW has the good will built with me that I am pretty sure we still get the mega moment and it still happens, just need to wait a little longer. Having "too much cool shit we could possibly do" rather than rematches of the same guys every week is a much more fun issue to have

As an aside - Bryan should debut at Arthur Ashe by beating Miro in an open challenge for the TNT title and then just do workhorse matches every week.

[Hero!]

I’d keep Punk and Bryan away from Kenny. I think they could do Penta vs Kenny and it would be great.

[Slare]

I'm guessing we are getting Christian/Kenny at all out as one of those middle of the card world title matches

[Bert]

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Sammy vs Darby would be cool, but I'm not buying it.

[Nash Diesel]

Darby Allin, despite being the size of my 10 year old daughter, should be World champion right now. Dude just gets it.

[Nash Diesel]

Hey Kenny, what's the old saying?
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[BigAl]

Darby Allin, despite being the size of my 10 year old daughter, should be World champion right now. Dude just gets it.

I have to laugh when I see him because he's in one of my favorite DDPY classes and DDP keeps yelling at him to do it better.

I think he and I are the same size though. He might be an inch taller than me but we weigh the same I bet.

[Bert]

I have to laugh when I see him because he's in one of my favorite DDPY classes and DDP keeps yelling at him to do it better.

I think he and I are the same size though. He might be an inch taller than me but we weigh the same I bet.

Darby Allin is in DDPY? You're the size of Darby Allin? I think it's time for a name change for you.

[Nash Diesel]

Maybe it's like when they call a big dude Tiny lol. Zeus for example.

[BigAl]

Darby Allin is in DDPY? You're the size of Darby Allin? I think it's time for a name change for you.

Yeah he's in one live class (https://www.facebook.com/officialddp/videos/ddpy-with-dallas-darby/829026504582836/) that we do once a week at least. Funny story about that video I linked, if you look at the jacked up shirtless guy on the left hand side, that's Rick Steiner's son who was on the Ravens as a fullback for a minute last year.

A lot of people call me 'Big Al' because I'm small as fuck and they do it ironically.

[Nash Diesel]

Yeah he's in one live class (https://www.facebook.com/officialddp/videos/ddpy-with-dallas-darby/829026504582836/) that we do once a week at least. Funny story about that video I linked, if you look at the jacked up shirtless guy on the left hand side, that's Rick Steiner's son who was on the Ravens as a fullback for a minute last year.

A lot of people call me 'Big Al' because I'm small as fuck and they do it ironically.

I still wish your name wasn't AL and it was AI I used to think, man, what the fuck is Big Artificial Intelligence? Is it like Big Pharma? Lol

[Tainted Eclipse]

extremely un-excited about the prospect of adam cole in aew

[Nash Diesel]

extremely un-excited about the prospect of adam cole in aew

Let's wait until he signs to AEW and come back to this post. It seems like once you become "all elite" the mood changes immediately with the AEW gatekeepers. I'm weeding them out, feel free to join.

[Bert]

Nash talking nonsense per usual. Lol.

He's good friends with the Bucks and Britt Baker is his girlfriend so I could see it happening.

The Elite is big enough so if anything I could see him turning on them.

[Psycho666Soldier]

I've always been a fan of Adam Cole, but I'm not really interested in him taking a spotlight from any of the current guys getting the shine

[Tainted Eclipse]

there's hardly anyone in wwe at this point i'd take if i were them. they have more than enough people, a bunch of young guys who could use more TV time like pillman jr, and punk and danielson are already coming in so those are two guys who are going to eat up a lot of time and attention. i think the only guy i'd sign if i were them is kevin owens, because they could use someone with the promo/character work abilities on his level.

[BigAl]

I still wish your name wasn't AL and it was AI I used to think, man, what the fuck is Big Artificial Intelligence? Is it like Big Pharma? Lol

100% there’s actually a “Big AI” and it’s run by a combination of Zuckerberg, Gates, and Musk. We all know how it’ll end, too. They duck around thinking they’re making everyone’s lives easier and making a trillion bucks, but in reality they make Ultron.

[Bert]

100% there’s actually a “Big AI” and it’s run by a combination of Zuckerberg, Gates, and Musk. We all know how it’ll end, too. They duck around thinking they’re making everyone’s lives easier and making a trillion bucks, but in reality they make Ultron.

Bezos, not Musk.

[BigAl]

Bezos, not Musk.

Both, probably. I’m not convinced that Musk isn’t a robot right now. Maybe an alien.

[Nash Diesel]

I've always been a fan of Adam Cole, but I'm not really interested in him taking a spotlight from any of the current guys getting the shine

I'm not ok with Cole doing it but I am ok with CM Punk, Bray Wyatt, Daniel Bryan, and even Ric Flair doing it. That's not a negative comment either. Spots are going to be taken, people like Scorpio Sky might have a hard time arguing why he deserves the same respect as CM Punk but that's ok.

[Hero!]

I have zero interest in Bray Wyatt in AEW. I like the idea of Cole but if all he does is work the same matches he’s been having in nxt since I stopped watching 2 years ago, then he can stay where he is.

[Nash Diesel]

I have zero interest in Bray Wyatt in AEW. I like the idea of Cole but if all he does is work the same matches he’s been having in nxt since I stopped watching 2 years ago, then he can stay where he is.

Quit lying. You are incapable of saying anything truly negative about AEW so once either signs we'll see how opinions change drastically.

When Adam Cole comes out you, Bert, and Slare will be on your hands and knees like Piper Perri at her step-brother's graduation party ready to take whatever Tony gives you 3. Just admit it. :)

[Psycho666Soldier]

I'm not ok with Cole doing it but I am ok with CM Punk, Bray Wyatt, Daniel Bryan, and even Ric Flair doing it. That's not a negative comment either. Spots are going to be taken, people like Scorpio Sky might have a hard time arguing why he deserves the same respect as CM Punk but that's ok.

Yeah, that was more about "I would trade any of the current potential signings over Adam Cole" then it was a comment about limited space.

I do also think right now it would be too much inflation for Wyatt to come in. I would like him to have a lot of room for TV Time and to really develop a character/storyline. But if showed up, I'd gladly take it.

[Nash Diesel]

Yeah, that was more about "I would trade any of the current potential signings over Adam Cole" then it was a comment about limited space.

I do also think right now it would be too much inflation for Wyatt to come in. I would like him to have a lot of room for TV Time and to really develop a character/storyline. But if showed up, I'd gladly take it.

I'm sure you would.

[Bert]

I have zero interest in Bray Wyatt in AEW. I like the idea of Cole but if all he does is work the same matches he’s been having in nxt since I stopped watching 2 years ago, then he can stay where he is.

What about the Kult of Windham?

[Badger]

It would probably be half-creepy, half take shots at WWE if he debuted at AEW lol

[Hero!]

What about the Kult of Windham?


That sounds stupider than the fiend

[Donald]

It just boggles my mind that Vince and WWE are letting such high level talent go. With Punk, Bryan, and who knows who else debuting soon at AEW, they have all the momentum in the world. Why on earth would WWE let someone like Bray Wyatt go? Just doesn't make sense to me. Maybe there's something bigger going on in WWE.

[Nash Diesel]

It just boggles my mind that Vince and WWE are letting such high level talent go. With Punk, Bryan, and who knows who else debuting soon at AEW, they have all the momentum in the world. Why on earth would WWE let someone like Bray Wyatt go? Just doesn't make sense to me. Maybe there's something bigger going on in WWE.

It's because they have a gigantic roster. For years we've talked about this. People are going to have to go.

To be real honest, we haven't lost too many top guys. Fiend and Strowman are it. Everyone else? Ehhhh. Let other companies benefit from the platform WWE has that gave these wrestlers the exposure needed. If that helps Impact squeak another 5-10 years or New Japan gets some variety, that's awesome. It gives more opportunities for WWE talent that aren't getting much tv time and it also allows WWE to freshen up the roster in certain aspects.

And if those talents go to AEW or another televised product, it keeps them fresh.

[chatty]

I'd be over the moon to see any of Braun, Bray or Cole in AEW. Roster might need some tweeking but they would all be good and beneficial acquisitions.

AEW has a load of people they can let go and they are likely good need to shift some people about anyway.

I mean would anyone miss Marko Stunt, Stu Grayson, Evil Uno, Peter Avalon, Joey Janela, Luthor, Sonny Kiss, Big Swole, Leva Bates, Nyla Rose, Alan Angels, Aaron Solo, Luchasaurus, Angelico, Preston Vance, Jack Evans, Colt Cabana as just a few names.

They could sack all them tomorrow without bringing anyone in and it'd still be a better product for it.

[Nash Diesel]

I'd be over the moon to see any of Braun, Bray or Cole in AEW. Roster might need some tweeking but they would all be good and beneficial acquisitions.

AEW has a load of people they can let go and they are likely good need to shift some people about anyway.

I mean would anyone miss Marko Stunt, Stu Grayson, Evil Uno, Peter Avalon, Joey Janela, Luthor, Sonny Kiss, Big Swole, Leva Bates, Nyla Rose, Alan Angels, Aaron Solo, Luchasaurus, Angelico, Preston Vance, Jack Evans, Colt Cabana as just a few names.

They could sack all them tomorrow without bringing anyone in and it'd still be a better product for it.

There are 3-4 people in this thread I know for a fact think you're a piece of shit for even suggesting AEW let go those people.

[chatty]

There are 3-4 people in this thread I know for a fact think you're a piece of shit for even suggesting AEW let go those people.

They could let them all go and the only difference people would notice is that Jungle Boy had to walk to the ring

[Hero!]

There are 3-4 people in this thread I know for a fact think you're a piece of shit for even suggesting AEW let go those people.

name names. I wanna know who these yokels are!

[Donald]

I'd hate to see anyone lose a job, but isn't Luthor only there as a favor to Jericho? I saw Luthor wrestle on a Dynamite and he was pretty awful, but isn't he 60?

[Nash Diesel]

name names. I wanna know who these yokels are!

lol. I won't need to. You guys are like the ring Wraiths from Lord of the Rings.

[Bert]

I'd be over the moon to see any of Braun, Bray or Cole in AEW. Roster might need some tweeking but they would all be good and beneficial acquisitions.

AEW has a load of people they can let go and they are likely good need to shift some people about anyway.

I mean would anyone miss Marko Stunt, Stu Grayson, Evil Uno, Peter Avalon, Joey Janela, Luthor, Sonny Kiss, Big Swole, Leva Bates, Nyla Rose, Alan Angels, Aaron Solo, Luchasaurus, Angelico, Preston Vance, Jack Evans, Colt Cabana as just a few names.

They could sack all them tomorrow without bringing anyone in and it'd still be a better product for it.

I like Stu, Uno, Preston Vance, and Jack Evans but I'm just a mark for that dude. Colt seems old enough he could just be a coach or an agent or whatever.

Preston is huge with a good look when he takes the mask off, he should take the mask off.

Stu and Uno are a good tag team. Stu is faster and stronger than he looks.

Jack Evans does cool breakdancing capoeira fighting and I'm just a mark for his spots.

I agree with the rest of your list and have mentioned some of them myself here.

[Psycho666Soldier]

I'd be over the moon to see any of Braun, Bray or Cole in AEW. Roster might need some tweeking but they would all be good and beneficial acquisitions.

AEW has a load of people they can let go and they are likely good need to shift some people about anyway.

I mean would anyone miss Marko Stunt, Stu Grayson, Evil Uno, Peter Avalon, Joey Janela, Luthor, Sonny Kiss, Big Swole, Leva Bates, Nyla Rose, Alan Angels, Aaron Solo, Luchasaurus, Angelico, Preston Vance, Jack Evans, Colt Cabana as just a few names.

They could sack all them tomorrow without bringing anyone in and it'd still be a better product for it.

I personally would miss Stu and Nyla. That's about it.

I also have a soft spot for PPA, but he's not making waves in AEW any time soon.

[Nash Diesel]

This is sooooooo creepy.

In other news, Kenny Omega, Sept 5th. Who do people have for his opponent? I don't see it being anyone we've seen on tv. Unless we get some crazy non-title match like CM Punk v. Brock Lesnar, I think it'll be Daniel Bryan or Punk. Bryan v. Omega, imho, would be a match that on Dec 31st, 2029 we go "Damn, idk if a match has been better since".

Punk is an option but in all honesty, I can't see him not winning the title and that doesn't make the rest of the roster look that good if Punk just comes out of retirement 7 years later and beats a guy carrying 3 other titles and barely any singles losses in the last several years.

[Bert]

What's creepy? Being fans of wrestlers?

Christian vs Omega at All Out.

[Hero!]

I personally would miss Stu and Nyla. That's about it.

I also have a soft spot for PPA, but he's not making waves in AEW any time soon.

Im a big fan of the Wingmen, an absolutely highlight of Dark for me

[Nash Diesel]

What's creepy? Being fans of wrestlers?

Christian vs Omega at All Out.

Main Event though?

What's his ranking? I don't know if his wins over Angelico and Matt Hardy=#1 contender. I get that once upon a time he held the belt and looked at Kenny....but is that really a ppv main event in 2021? I don't think you're giving Tony Khan's booking ability any credit with a suggestion like that.

[Bert]

I don't see any other faces that would make sense.

[Hero!]

PENTA EL CERO MIEDO, PENDEJO

[Psycho666Soldier]

I mean, we still have a month. Christian could easily climb the rankings at this point. Especially since he just finished the feud with Hardy.

[Hero!]

Just bring over Ibushi and let them have sex in the middle of the ring. 9-Star classic.

[Morrison]

with how AEW books things, having a lot of undercard people allows them to pad stats for the rankings. so while there may be a lot of 'aimless' names that could be dropped without a care, a lot of them do have their place as stepping stones on the singles and tag ranking ladders.

[Nash Diesel]

I mean, we still have a month. Christian could easily climb the rankings at this point. Especially since he just finished the feud with Hardy.

So who do you have 47 year old Christian go over in a month that would get him a World title shot? What's his ranking? Is he even in the top 15? Imagine the people he would have to beat in a month. That's what you do with Kenny Omega? You just hotshot Christian because.....


Just bring over Ibushi and let them have sex in the middle of the ring. 9-Star classic.

Yes. Or your earlier idea of Pentagon Jr. Seems like those cats are wrapped up with Chavo and Not Eddie So Stop It Andrade.

What's Naito up to?

[Psycho666Soldier]

So who do you have 47 year old Christian go over in a month that would get him a World title shot? What's his ranking? Is he even in the top 15? Imagine the people he would have to beat in a month. That's what you do with Kenny Omega? You just hotshot Christian because.....



Yes. Or your earlier idea of Pentagon Jr. Seems like those cats are wrapped up with Chavo and Not Eddie So Stop It Andrade.

What's Naito up to?

I don't get what exactly your angle is. Are you just not interested in Christian getting the spot, or do you have a problem with the booking logic?

According to the most recent rankings, he's No
3 with only Page and Jungle Boy above him. If Page is gonna be off TV soon, Christian doesn't have to beat him. Dude can have wins on dark/elevation to pad out the stats and maybe have a sort of a No. 1 contender match with Jungle Boy considering they've been part of angles together since the Battle Royal. Christian wins, Jungle Boy gets a rub, and then you have a sort of rubber match setup for them anywhere down the line.

If you're just not interested in Christian, fair enough, but I don't see how it's unbelievable or illogical for Christian to be facing Omega at All Out.

[Nash Diesel]

I will say this, I should've looked at the rankings myself lol.

I don't think the booking logic is there but now that I see he's #3....I guess you could easily get him one more win against literally anyone and that elevates him. Quantity over quality. Kind of AEW's MO. I'm not interested in Christian being in that spot at all. I don't think he's a draw at all. I don't think he's someone that, unless I'm copying WWE, would slide in to a World title match right now.

The problem is that nobody seems to care about quality. Daniel Bryan-look at his resume. If that guy was in WWE and simply got a shot at Roman for having wins over guys like Mansoor, T-Bar, and Shelton Benjamin, would we think that was smart for a huge ppv? This is their Summerslam so to speak, they only do 4 ppvs a year. Wasting a Kenny Omega ppv World title match on Christian....Maybe as the opener.

[Psycho666Soldier]

AEW definitely lays it on thick with the quantity, but AEW does have quality, too. I know you are anti-fanboy but you have admitted really being into a good chunk of what they're doing, and seemingly care more about watching AEW than WWE. Are you just saying there's not enough quality?

I dunno, different tastes with Christian. I've always been a fan and honestly think his matches have been solid this run(actually enjoyed the match with Matt), so like...he's not my top pick for a candidate, but I think he's perfectly viable as, in the least, a midcard world title match, which is fine if the other matches are fire. Assuming Jericho/MJF happens, I think that's a big enough angle to take the main event slot.

[Nash Diesel]

AEW definitely lays it on thick with the quantity, but AEW does have quality, too. I know you are anti-fanboy but you have admitted really being into a good chunk of what they're doing, and seemingly care more about watching AEW than WWE. Are you just saying there's not enough quality?

I dunno, different tastes with Christian. I've always been a fan and honestly think his matches have been solid this run(actually enjoyed the match with Matt), so like...he's not my top pick for a candidate, but I think he's perfectly viable as, in the least, a midcard world title match, which is fine if the other matches are fire. Assuming Jericho/MJF happens, I think that's a big enough angle to take the main event slot.

Yeah I'm not meaning the quantity over quality as a super negative. You could look at WWE and NJPW and say the same thing imo. The quality is there, you just have to sift through it.

I'm definitely on Team Christian Cage. I used to say that TNA started to go downhill when they let him go back to WWE. He was someone who could've been a major player like Jericho was he just wasn't used enough and plus he always had a top heavy legit main event scene to contend with. Same as guys like Benoit in WCW, they had to get out. But right now.....Dude we're not talking about mid 30's Christian Cage. We're talking about a guy who yes can still go, but what's the story other than ripping off Edge/Roman?

[Psycho666Soldier]

Yeah I'm not meaning the quantity over quality as a super negative. You could look at WWE and NJPW and say the same thing imo. The quality is there, you just have to sift through it.

I'm definitely on Team Christian Cage. I used to say that TNA started to go downhill when they let him go back to WWE. He was someone who could've been a major player like Jericho was he just wasn't used enough and plus he always had a top heavy legit main event scene to contend with. Same as guys like Benoit in WCW, they had to get out. But right now.....Dude we're not talking about mid 30's Christian Cage. We're talking about a guy who yes can still go, but what's the story other than ripping off Edge/Roman?

Like I said, we still have a month to get there and soon to be more weekly TV time if they really need. I think it's ok to have a veteran who can still go get a title match regardless of the story involved, but again, if the rest of the card is good enough, I don't think it has to be anything beyond basic. There are bigger stories to tell with Omega in people like Page and Jungle Boy, but it's healthy to have some smaller term stories in between that might be fueled more by the in-ring spectacle. If the rest of the card is a bust, then yeah, I'll agree that Omega/Christian isn't really a show-saver on paper. But if Page is out because of his baby, I think it's a solid placeholder.

[Nash Diesel]

Like I said, we still have a month to get there and soon to be more weekly TV time if they really need. I think it's ok to have a veteran who can still go get a title match regardless of the story involved, but again, if the rest of the card is good enough, I don't think it has to be anything beyond basic. There are bigger stories to tell with Omega in people like Page and Jungle Boy, but it's healthy to have some smaller term stories in between that might be fueled more by the in-ring spectacle. If the rest of the card is a bust, then yeah, I'll agree that Omega/Christian isn't really a show-saver on paper. But if Page is out because of his baby, I think it's a solid placeholder.

It feels like something the WWE would do....but not for one of their big 4. Especially when they only had 1 World championship. Imagine if Royal Rumble 1998 it was Shawn Michaels v. a returning Tito Santana and Tito's biggest win was against DOA Crush.

I think if Christian had bigger wins and made to feel like a real main event talent-I'd buy it with a little over a month to build. Kenny's last ppv title match wasn't exactly the greatest. The ppv prior to that, great match with Moxley that the majority don't remember because of the ending.

Kenny needs to redeem himself. I've made it known how I feel about the unfortunate Adam Page situation but I think rebounding with a Christian Cage title match is extremely weak.

You're basically saying look, Roman Reigns v. Edge worked, let's do Kenny Omega v. Christian Cage. Same story. Christian comes back after career ending injury, challenges arguably the best in the world for the top World title in the game.

The only difference is Christian has I think 2 more matches under his belt but Jesus Christ man Christian is going to need something other than a win over Jungle Boy for this not to look like weak booking. For Christian it's great, do basically nothing of worth and bypass all these others badasses because....? For Omega, man it's a pointless match that should happen on Dynamite. If you're going to put your World champion on the midcard again, shit, we might have the next CM Punk on our hands.

[Psycho666Soldier]

I get the comparison, but the difference for me is that WWE was putting on matches that, at least for me, were putting over matches with inferior talent/booking over the world champion who was CM Punk, one of the hottest acts during the early 2010s. I like enough of the AEW roster/storylines that I'm not as upset about something else getting the shine this PPV.

I understand your point, and like I said, it's not really ideal. If they pull out something big for Omega that the world title could main event comfortably, I'd be stoked for that. But I think this is a case where I enjoy/trust enough of the product that I'm fine seeing the World Title shining a little less bright, as long as they bring it back big for at least Revolution.

[Hero!]

3.0 have shown up in AEW, going by their even older name of 2.0. These guys worked in wwe as “everise”. They’re teaming up with Danny Garcia to challenge Mox Kingston and Darby tomorrow night!

[Bert]

3.0 have shown up in AEW, going by their even older name of 2.0. These guys worked in wwe as “everise”. They’re teaming up with Danny Garcia to challenge Mox Kingston and Darby tomorrow night!

Was this on Dark or just twitter?

[Nash Diesel]

3.0 have shown up in AEW, going by their even older name of 2.0. These guys worked in wwe as “everise”. They’re teaming up with Danny Garcia to challenge Mox Kingston and Darby tomorrow night!

Gee, ya think?

Wish.com Young Bucks who are Wish.com The Naturals who are Wish.com Hardy Boyz. I'm still holding out for Christian York and Joey Matthews to show up.

[Hero!]

Was this on Dark or just twitter?

AEW tweeted it. I didn’t watch dark, I was watching Evangelion.

[Nash Diesel]

I didn't know Mark Hammer was Max Caster. I've been wondering where the fuck that dude went.

[Bert]

Dark got edited because people got offended by Max's rap.
https://v.redd.it/ho4wkyy8z8f71

The funny thing is the Duke lacrosse guys were acquitted because the "victim" lied but no one remembers that because the media was too busy pushing a narrative. The prosecutor was disbarred and jailed for withholding DNA evidence.

[Tainted Eclipse]

companies really need to stop giving the pavlovian feedback to internet pussies who enjoy being offended and editing stuff when they complain. like nwa never should have fired jim cornette for that joke.

[Donald]

Do you think they should have edited out Piper vs. Brown at WrestleMania VI on Peacock?

[Tainted Eclipse]

obviously not

it should actually be ILLEGAL for steaming services to edit old content in such a way

[Hero!]

I honestly believe that the mine that got caster’s thing edited was the line about the pcr test

[Tainted Eclipse]

i said from the beginning a rap gimmick can't get over now because you need to be able to be edgy and offensive to pull it off

[Donald]

They should edit stuff before it airs. Once it's aired on TV already, I don't think they should go back and re-edit. Put a disclaimer before the episode or segment explaining it may be offensive.

[Donald]

Also when I see the name the Acclaimed I think of old school WWF video games.

[Nash Diesel]

Dark got edited because people got offended by Max's rap.
https://v.redd.it/ho4wkyy8z8f71

The funny thing is the Duke lacrosse guys were acquitted because the "victim" lied but no one remembers that because the media was too busy pushing a narrative. The prosecutor was disbarred and jailed for withholding DNA evidence.

Obviously Max Caster doesn't watch the news.


companies really need to stop giving the pavlovian feedback to internet pussies who enjoy being offended and editing stuff when they complain. like nwa never should have fired jim cornette for that joke.

Did they fire Jim? I swear it was a mutual agreement but I could be wrong.

Internet pussies lol. If you can't get over without going to these lengths, you're not good at what you do. Jim Cornette for example, he has a million other jabs that work just as good but he chose to correlate KFC and Egypt because back in his time apparently only black people liked fried chicken lol.




obviously not

it should actually be ILLEGAL for steaming services to edit old content in such a way

Why should it be illegal? I'm actually curious why it should be ILLEGAL to remove old content that they find unfit for their platform.

You are the same type of person who will argue that it's ok for a business to refuse making a cake for a gay couple but take issue with rape jokes not being acceptable.

On what grounds could you even make something like that illegal? I'm going to start referring to you as the AEW Incel.

[Nash Diesel]

i said from the beginning a rap gimmick can't get over now because you need to be able to be edgy and offensive to pull it off

Sure it can. You just don't need to resort to the bottom of the barrel like rape to get it over.

That's like saying horror movies can't be successful because they're too violent. No, we just don't need movies that are borderline snuff films to get a reaction. If you need someone to joke about rape, Covid deaths, mental illness, if they have to go that deep to get a reaction out of you then I'm sorry you're that much of a piece of trash.

The comfort of a keyboard, right here in text from the AEW Incel.

[Bert]

Sure it can. You just don't need to resort to the bottom of the barrel like rape to get it over.

That's like saying horror movies can't be successful because they're too violent. No, we just don't need movies that are borderline snuff films to get a reaction. If you need someone to joke about rape, Covid deaths, mental illness, if they have to go that deep to get a reaction out of you then I'm sorry you're that much of a piece of trash.

The comfort of a keyboard, right here in text from the AEW Incel.

Orton saying Eddie was in hell is cool though?

I'm surprised there wasn't more backlash to the "oral sessions" line a while back.

[Nash Diesel]

Orton saying Eddie was in hell is cool though?

I'm surprised there wasn't more backlash to the "oral sessions" line a while back.

Oh I didn't know anyone asked me if I thought Orton saying that bullshit about the only wrestler I ever shed a tear for after they died was cool or not.

That was fucking disgusting. So before you try to just throw some random bullshit out there and assume I was cool with it, maybe ask first.

[Bert]

I think if the performers involved with it are ok with it then other people should stop complaining.

Orton didn't like the line but Rey said it was ok so he said it.

They're acting. You don't get mad at a character in a movie for saying something horrible. No one is upset at Leonardo DiCaprio for playing a racist slave owner in Django Unchained.

[Nash Diesel]

I think if the performers involved with it are ok with it then other people should stop complaining.

Orton didn't like the line but Rey said it was ok so he said it.

They're acting. You don't get mad at a character in a movie for saying something horrible. No one is upset at Leonardo Decaprio for playing a racist slave owner in Django Unchained.

The movie analogy never works with wrestling. By that account, we should be seeing rape, incest, murder, hate crimes, etc. because "movies". Where's the American History X storyline? When are we going to see the I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE storyline? I'm still holding out for the Suicide Club angle...

Wrestling is neither fish nor foul as Jim Cornette says. What's ok in a movie doesn't mean it's ok for tv. You're blurring lines and I get it man, you are so fucking quick to defend AEW no matter when anyone has something negative to say but this isn't the hill you want to die on.

You said Orton didn't want to use the line but Rey was ok with it. So by that logic you condone rape.

[Bert]

The movie analogy never works with wrestling. By that account, we should be seeing rape, incest, murder, hate crimes, etc. because "movies". Where's the American History X storyline? When are we going to see the I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE storyline? I'm still holding out for the Suicide Club angle...

Wrestling is neither fish nor foul as Jim Cornette says. What's ok in a movie doesn't mean it's ok for tv. You're blurring lines and I get it man, you are so fucking quick to defend AEW no matter when anyone has something negative to say but this isn't the hill you want to die on.

You said Orton didn't want to use the line but Rey was ok with it. So by that logic you condone rape.

The movie analogy is regarding people playing characters not the content of the films.

That's why the Undertaker worked so well and got away with things he would be canceled for now like hanging a man as a sacrifice from the ceiling, he was never Mark Calaway at that time.

That's a huge, incredibly dumb leap to mention condoning rape.

[Nash Diesel]

The movie analogy is regarding people playing characters not the content of the films.

That's why the Undertaker worked so well and got away with things he would be canceled for now like hanging a man as a sacrifice from the ceiling, he was never Mark Calaway at that time.

That's a huge, incredibly dumb leap to mention condoning rape.

So you would put Undertaker and Max Caster in the same category? IDK, did you forget who he hung from the Cell? It was a cop. In this day and age Undertaker would probably get a ticker tape parade down Walt Disney Dr. We're literally talking about the content of Max Caster's rap. Are you smoking all my weed again? If you want to talk about something else, stop quoting my shit about the CONTENT of Max Caster's rap.

And it was a huge, incredibly dumb leap to assume that I was cool with Eddie Guerrero getting slighted by Orton.

Bert Hammer, listen, freedom of speech doesn't come with freedom of consequence. Hiding behind "I was playing a gimmick" doesn't mean anything. If you're that shitty of a heel, maybe look into another line of work.

[Bert]

So you would put Undertaker and Max Caster in the same category? IDK, did you forget who he hung from the Cell? It was a cop. In this day and age Undertaker would probably get a ticker tape parade down Walt Disney Dr. We're literally talking about the content of Max Caster's rap. Are you smoking all my weed again? If you want to talk about something else, stop quoting my shit about the CONTENT of Max Caster's rap.

And it was a huge, incredibly dumb leap to assume that I was cool with Eddie Guerrero getting slighted by Orton.

Bert Hammer, listen, freedom of speech doesn't come with freedom of consequence. Hiding behind "I was playing a gimmick" doesn't mean anything. If you're that shitty of a heel, maybe look into another line of work.

They are both professional wrestlers playing characters.

I asked you if you were cool with it.

Heels have did and said terrible shit for ages so I guess they should all find a new line of work. MJF is the best heel in AEW and says terrible shit all of the time.

[Bert]

Heel John Cena said the same things Caster does and had a move called the "F-U" but I'm sure you were saying he should find a new line of work then.

[Nash Diesel]

They are both professional wrestlers playing characters.

I asked you if you were cool with it.

Heels have did and said terrible shit for ages so I guess they should all find a new line of work. MJF is the best heel in AEW and says terrible shit all of the time.


Heel John Cena said the same things Caster does and had a move called the "F-U" but I'm sure you were saying he should find a new line of work then.

So that's how generic your comparison to the Undertaker is with Max? Simply they're wrestlers? LOL. Fuck outta here.

Heel John Cena joked about rape? Which promo? I remember Abe Washington did the Kobe joke, and then was fired immediately. I guess WWE let John Cena's rap jokes slide, idk I can't remember every single John Cena freestyle or promo like you. Link me up. Plus, I've never really been a fan of John Cena and didn't really care for his corny Eminem gimmick. You're a twitter guy, what is it, #Fail? Is that still a thing.

What has MJF said that was on the line of rape?

It's 100% about the content. If I heard MJF use rape as a way to get heat for one I'd be wondering WHY because he's already super over as a heel.

Think of this way. Did Max get the kind of heat you want to get? Imagine if he was a babyface, and they flipped the script on him and someone dissed his skin color. Now, I know YOU would be fine with that because you have made it clear you have no problem with supporting racism. It's in several threads, multiple posts just within the last month or so.

It's not heat, it's just being a fucking moron. Defend it all you want, move the goal posts and use generic comparisons.

[Nash Diesel]

Imagine thinking a joke about raping someone and calling your finisher the FU as being in the same realm lol. I remember when Sammy made that comment about how he would rape Sasha Banks....Bert was probably like "So you were ok with Undertaker hanging Bossman though?"

[Sasori]

Max Caster started his run in AEW by calling everyone gay. He even said the Young Bucks were gay for each other. That's the level of creativity we can expect from this guy, so what he said on Dark is no surprise.

[Donald]

I recall Cena making a few homphobic remarks in his raps but nothing about rape.

[Bert]

Imagine thinking a joke about raping someone and calling your finisher the FU as being in the same realm lol. I remember when Sammy made that comment about how he would rape Sasha Banks....Bert was probably like "So you were ok with Undertaker hanging Bossman though?"

The line about Duke lacrosse was about the wrestlers in the ring, not Julia Hart.

It's the same as someone saying I'll treat you like Michael Vick treated dogs. It's just trash talk.

[Bert]

Nash, the rap afficinado, is really going to try to act like people don't say crazy things when rapping lol

[Bert]

It's like did you even watch the promo or are you just getting outraged because it's the cool thing to do.

[Nash Diesel]

The line about Duke lacrosse was about the wrestlers in the ring, not Julia Hart.

It's the same as someone saying I'll treat you like Michael Vick treated dogs. It's just trash talk.

Cheap heat isn't an excuse. And yes Bert, there are levels to cheap heat. Shitting on the Iowa Hawkeyes will no doubt get you booed. Coming out and making a comment about the Molly Tibbetts' accused murderer will no doubt get you booed but it doesn't mean it's acceptable.

I will do something in your favor, I'm going to dial it back a little because I don't want my tone to be considered hostile or even offended. I'm disappointed in Max and I'm disappointed in people who feel the way you do in response to my opinion on the situation.


Nash, the rap afficinado, is really going to try to act like people don't say crazy things when rapping lol

lol, never once acted like that. I understand shock value and I can read a room. If Max Caster came out rapping Da Baby songs to Sonny Kiss or Darren Young, I'd question it the same way I am now. You can attempt to make all these extremely loose connections, good luck.

Me being a hip hop head doesn't mean that I expect people to accept Esham's KKKill the Fetus album as a masterpiece. I wouldn't expect Kenny Omega to come out to the song "KKKill the Fetus" to antagonize Adam Page. It would be fucking nuts and I'd be at home going wow this is hardcore, but I don't want to see that in pro wrestling or really anywhere to be honest. I don't have room for that kind of shit and apparently neither does AEW.

[Nash Diesel]

It's like did you even watch the promo or are you just getting outraged because it's the cool thing to do.

Honestly, the way I'm seeing it on here, Twitter, IG, and Facebook....I'm in the minority lol.

And I'm sad you didn't like my comment about Undertaker being held up as a hero for hanging the Big Bossman. I figured you of all people would've popped for that.

[Bert]

It seems like people are most upset at the mental health Simone Biles line from what I read.

[Hero!]

Max Caster started his run in AEW by calling everyone gay. He even said the Young Bucks were gay for each other. That's the level of creativity we can expect from this guy, so what he said on Dark is no surprise.

his tag partner is also a very well-known gay YouTuber and Max has hinted at being LGBT himself in a lot of his older freestyles

[Nash Diesel]

It seems like people are most upset at the mental health Simone Biles line from what I read.

It was all around lame. There was nothing to it. There was no skill, no effort. Kind of like watching Madman Pondo.


his tag partner is also a very well-known gay YouTube and Max himself has hinted at being LGBT himself in a lot of his older freestyles

Tobias Whale Syndrome.

[Hero!]

Break that down for me, I don’t get your old person reference. Who is Tobias the whale?

[Bert]

Nash, you ready for Cody to lose tonight?

I wish you took me up on that bet.

[Nash Diesel]

Break that down for me, I don’t get your old person reference. Who is Tobias the whale?

lol. It's a reference to the main villain to Black Lightning. I never read the comics so I'm just going off of what I saw on the CW show which is/was incredible.

Tobias is an albino African-American who hates "normal" African-Americans. The shit they get away with on that show that he says about black people, I'm shocked that they got away with it. Tobias was basically Cartman meets Kingpin. The dude who plays him is a rapper named Kron Don. Top 10 best rap names in the game.

[Nash Diesel]

Nash, you ready for Cody to lose tonight?

I wish you took me up on that bet.

If I took you up on that bet I might as well play Russian Roulette with a shotgun lol. Your kind will take any kind of victory.

Refresh my memory though, what was the bet? I assume it was me and others saying Cody would beat Black but not being serious and playing on how people say Cody has questionable victories that kill momentum. PS-where's the boxer been lately?

FYI, for future reference, the only time I bet is when it involves myself and others in the Kumite. I'll send you the FB group sign up.

[Hero!]

lol. It's a reference to the main villain to Black Lightning. I never read the comics so I'm just going off of what I saw on the CW show which is/was incredible.

Tobias is an albino African-American who hates "normal" African-Americans. The shit they get away with on that show that he says about black people, I'm shocked that they got away with it. Tobias was basically Cartman meets Kingpin. The dude who plays him is a rapper named Kron Don. Top 10 best rap names in the game.

man you coulda just said “uncle ruckus”. Did you watch boondocks or was that too outside of your age group?

[Bert]

If I took you up on that bet I might as well play Russian Roulette with a shotgun lol. Your kind will take any kind of victory.

Refresh my memory though, what was the bet? I assume it was me and others saying Cody would beat Black but not being serious and playing on how people say Cody has questionable victories that kill momentum. PS-where's the boxer been lately?

FYI, for future reference, the only time I bet is when it involves myself and others in the Kumite. I'll send you the FB group sign up.

My kind? Any kind of victory?

You were shitting on Black saying Cody would beat him when he showed up. I don't think you were joking. I wanted a ban bet.

Agogo needed surgery, I believe.

[Nash Diesel]

man you coulda just said “uncle ruckus”. Did you watch boondocks or was that too outside of your age group?

Man I had some references that I was like, naw Hero won't get it he's 12. Black Lightning is newer than Boondocks....And I'll be honest, rarely watched Boondocks. I'm not big on that kind of animation. The only cartoons/anime that I've watched in the last 20 years that didn't involve some kind of reoccurring theme of violence and/or aliens, it's Family Guy and F is for Family.....Weird how that worked out lol.

Someone was trying to get me to check out Regular Show a few weeks ago or maybe it was Rick and Morty. Said because I watched the Simpsons as a youth I'd like it and I'm like dude, give me Darkwing Duck and X-Men on Disney+ fuck this weird Freddy Krueger looking motherfucker.

[Nash Diesel]

My kind? Any kind of victory?

You were shitting on Black saying Cody would beat him when he showed up. I don't think you were joking. I wanted a ban bet.

Agogo needed surgery, I believe.

So you wanted to do a ban bet over that? LOL.

Agogo needed surgery for having to bend over and take the American Nightmare.

[Hero!]

Regular Show is fucking HILARIOUS. Rick and Marty is ok, but I haven’t seen like half the series. I much preferred regular show when I had cable.

[Hero!]

SRS saying AEW just signed another top free agent but hasn’t said who. Hmmm

edit: Looks like it’s Ruby (Riott) Soho.

[Nash Diesel]

SRS saying AEW just signed another top free agent but hasn’t said who. WOOOOOOO

Fixed it for you nephew

[Hero!]

Fixed it for you nephew


https://youtu.be/VLnWf1sQkjY

[Nash Diesel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A0iftflme4

[Donald]

I bet Rancid_Planet likes Ruby Soho

[Psycho666Soldier]

Ruby would be an awesome get.

I dunno, I'm kinda torn on the Max Caster thing. I'm fine with crossing lines in rap as long as it's not bordering hate speech(which I don't think this is), and honestly, I'm ok with toeing that line as long as the person saying it gets their comeuppance for being such a dick. So in a general sense, if this whole angle(which has had questionable comments towards Julia) ends with the Blondes beating The Acclaimed and Julia like slapping the shit out of both of them or something, it's kind of whatever.

But if nothing else, take from Abraham Washington's example and just don't risk it with jokes about rape cases. Falsely accused or not, that shit can bring up some bad vibes for a lot of people.

I do also think not nearly enough people take mental health seriously, but the Simone Biles line is kind of like the perfect level of "controversy" for me.

[Nash Diesel]

Miro should come to her defense.

[Donald]

Thought it was April 20 cause I saw a lot of high horses today.

[Nash Diesel]

Tony addressed the situation and props to him for taking the reigns so to speak. I was curious if he approved anything prior to airing and it sounds like Tony does for Dynamite but was a little too relaxed for the other shows. Understandable.

https://nodq.com/news/tony-khan-issues-statement-regarding-controversial-promo-that-was-pulled-from-dark/?fbclid=IwAR3MKFhwqgy6Smwn9IpLPi_F16HIHbBitHF2UZHz stmd2sK8XWnalaBXzDc

[Donald]

Shouldn't he just talk to talent, people editing, producers, agents, etc. and just say this shit isn't acceptable in today's climate? Him taking the reigns sounds like he's ok with people doing whatever the fuck they want, as long as he catches it before it airs.

[Psycho666Soldier]

Sure, he can blanket tell people not to do/say certain things, but that's not going to stop some people. Especially someone like Max Caster who's gimmick is based on being controversial. Who's to say he hasn't already talked to the roster about this?

I think taking control of the editing/making a vow to keep a closer eye on the smaller shows is a fine move. Regardless of whether it was approved or not, at least he's taking initiative to do something and prevent this from happening again.

[Nash Diesel]

Sure, he can blanket tell people not to do/say certain things, but that's not going to stop some people. Especially someone like Max Caster who's gimmick is based on being controversial. Who's to say he hasn't already talked to the roster about this?

I think taking control of the editing/making a vow to keep a closer eye on the smaller shows is a fine move. Regardless of whether it was approved or not, at least he's taking initiative to do something and prevent this from happening again.

I do think that a big misconception about AEW is that it's the wild west. Some of the things they've done have made people forget about what Cody and the team were talking about going into this thing called All Elite Wrestling. I mean, I don't see anyone here asking for Caster's job. Maybe elsewhere but I haven't seen it on either side of the conversation. Tony didn't come across as being cool with it at all on any level. There's a learning curve, he probably deals with the same exact shit with the Jaguars. Some player says some wild shit on Twitter, you gotta do some damage control.

In this day and age too many people probably scared this dude or AEW as a whole will get "cancelled". Naw. It'll be fine. Knowing this guy he'll incorporate being scolded in his next rhyme, turn a negative into a positive.

[Hero!]

People seem to forget that Tony was the one who said he didn’t want anything to with Joey Ryan and his penis shenanigans, otherwise the Bucks would have made him a day 1 hire.

never forget the penis druids at All In. Ugh.

[Nash Diesel]

People seem to forget that Tony was the one who said he didn’t want anything to with Joey Ryan and his penis shenanigans, otherwise the Bucks would have made him a day 1 hire.

never forget the penis druids at All In. Ugh.

I think all promotions are hypocrites at some point. They won't fuck with Joey Ryan but they fuck with Nick Gage. WWE fucks with Mike Tyson but fire Enzo.

I am glad Joey Ryan isn't in AEW. Jobber.

[Hero!]

Nick Gage robbed a couple banks but he’s not a sex pest.

[JuveLeo]

Someone here told me Juventud was jacked... I'm assuming that was sarcasm now lol

[Bert]

I thought there was 5 labors and then MJF.

But I guess MJF is the 5th labor.

[JuveLeo]

Brian Cage looks like a million bucks, but dude is seriously lacking mic skill.

[Tainted Eclipse]

the christian number one contender teases feel like an intentional red herring to me.

[Bert]

Hangman off to have his baby

[Bert]

Taz, Excalibur, Jericho and Henry commentating on Rampage.

Excalibur sounded like he might not be doing Dynamite anymore?

[Hero!]

Major Pod boys kicking down the forbidden door

[Bert]

Major Pod boys kicking down the forbidden door


https://youtu.be/IFRa1UTL-9A

[Bert]

Booo


I thought MJF was going to be special ref not just at ringside.

[Psycho666Soldier]

Malakai Black's new entrance is sick

[Tainted Eclipse]

Booo


I thought MJF was going to be special ref not just at ringside.

yeah that's a pretty lame stipulation. "MJF at ringside"???

[Bert]

Cody SQUASHED.

[Psycho666Soldier]

That was a great way to out over Black's debut

[Hero!]

Cody RHHHodes buries another talent1!!!!11!1!1!1!!

[Sasori]

his tag partner is also a very well-known gay YouTuber and Max has hinted at being LGBT himself in a lot of his older freestyles

Interesting. That makes Caster's gay insinuations even stranger since the connotation is negative.


lol. It's a reference to the main villain to Black Lightning. I never read the comics so I'm just going off of what I saw on the CW show which is/was incredible.

Tobias is an albino African-American who hates "normal" African-Americans. The shit they get away with on that show that he says about black people, I'm shocked that they got away with it. Tobias was basically Cartman meets Kingpin. The dude who plays him is a rapper named Kron Don. Top 10 best rap names in the game.

Tobias is such a badass villain. One of the main reasons I kept watching Black Lightning.

[Nash Diesel]

Cody SQUASHED.

Just showing that WWE>AEW

[Nash Diesel]

Interesting. That makes Caster's gay insinuations even stranger since the connotation is negative.



Tobias is such a badass villain. One of the main reasons I kept watching Black Lightning.

Incredible. I had been putting off watching this show for about 2 years then finally said fuck it and banged out the first 3 seasons and the 4th/final just ended so IDK, hopefully the Painkiller spin off is dope.

[Bert]

Just showing that WWE>AEW

How

[Nash Diesel]

How

Oh I'm just fucking around. I mean, Cody is a WWE guy so it wouldn't make much sense to say that when both guys built their names in the WWE.

[Nash Diesel]

I read something funny tonight about how WWE is AEW's Performance Center.

Ruby SoHo on her way to AEW. I guess the play on the Deepthroat actress wasn't going to get her that Khan loot.

[Hero!]

Malakai Black debut was perfect. From the music, the entrance gear, to the burial of Cody. Perfect. Dude could face Kenny for the title next week and it would be believable.

[Nash Diesel]

Malakai Black debut was perfect. From the music, the entrance gear, to the burial of Cody. Perfect. Dude could face Kenny for the title next week and it would be believable.

If they wanted to use a guy with a lot of momentum, Black v. Omega on Sept 5th. Black is supposed to be a heel I assume, but it sure as fuck hasn't felt that way.
Black could BEAT Kenny Omega and it would be believable.

[Psycho666Soldier]

I'd be for it. But if he ain't gonna win, keep him far away from Kenny.

[Psycho666Soldier]

I read something funny tonight about how WWE is AEW's Performance Center.

Ruby SoHo on her way to AEW. I guess the play on the Deepthroat actress wasn't going to get her that Khan loot.

She didn't own the rights to Ruby Riott, I'd imagine. But this new name leaves a lot of room to license the Rancid song and have a major entrance theme anthem.

[Nash Diesel]

She didn't own the rights to Ruby Riott, I'd imagine. But this new name leaves a lot of room to license the Rancid song and have a major entrance theme anthem.

Right

[Hero!]

She didn't own the rights to Ruby Riott, I'd imagine. But this new name leaves a lot of room to license the Rancid song and have a major entrance theme anthem.

lars gave her the blessing for the name and the song, so I assume they’ll offer AEW cheap licensing fees

[Nash Diesel]

lars gave her the blessing for the name and the song, so I assume they’ll offer AEW cheap licensing fees

As much of an ageist that you are you'd think you'd hate all these songs that are older than you (some older than ME) getting used. But it's AEW. They could beat your loved ones and you'd be like "5 STARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRS*

[Bert]

Lol ageist. Everyone loves cbac and rip.

[Nash Diesel]

Lol ageist. Everyone loves cbac and rip.

What does that have to do with anything? lol

Mark needs to stop loaning out his sock account to Romford.

[Bert]

Hero isn't ageist.

What does what you said have to do with anything?

[Nash Diesel]

Hero isn't ageist.

What does what you said have to do with anything?

How about you answer my question first. What does cbac and rip being liked have to do with me calling Hero and ageist. He is an ageist. It's a joke for one, one that Hero! gets because it's kind of our thing that we go back and forth about it.

But you inserted yourself like a Romford and for what reason? I'm still waiting on what cbac and rip's relationships with people on this board has to do with what I said.

The reason you won't answer it is because it was fucking stupid.

[Bert]

How about you answer my question first. What does cbac and rip being liked have to do with me calling Hero and ageist. He is an ageist. It's a joke for one, one that Hero! gets because it's kind of our thing that we go back and forth about it.

But you inserted yourself like a Romford and for what reason? I'm still waiting on what cbac and rip's relationships with people on this board has to do with what I said.

The reason you won't answer it is because it was fucking stupid.

Rip and cbac are old, duh.

[Bert]

I'll be here to call you out on your dumb bullshit no matter who you're talking about. It's a public service.

[lotjx]

Bray taking over Dark Order makes too much damn sense. Bring in Rowan too. Cole being in AEW would be perfect as well. Former Bullet Club..sorta...his wife is there and he can be a nice heel to work with Sammy. Jericho. Darby or Christian.

[Nash Diesel]

Rip and cbac are old, duh.


I'll be here to call you out on your dumb bullshit no matter who you're talking about. It's a public service.

Call me out on what? Saying that Hero! is an ageist-which has nothing to do with cbac and rip. It's a joke between Hero! and myself that didn't require you to insert yourself like a Romford.

[Nash Diesel]

Bray taking over Dark Order makes too much damn sense. Bring in Rowan too. Cole being in AEW would be perfect as well. Former Bullet Club..sorta...his wife is there and he can be a nice heel to work with Sammy. Jericho. Darby or Christian.

Disco Inferno had a good saying when talking about AEW's roster. The cabinet is full. I think if Wyatt shows up in AEW it needs to be something beyond what he did in WWE. I think he is creative enough that he can do something wild. Look at The Fiend. Totally different to what Bray Wyatt the cult leader was doing.

[Hero!]

This thread is so weird.

also yes, I know old punk and metal music. That’s what I spent my teens listening to, lol

[Hero!]

Bray taking over Dark Order makes too much damn sense. Bring in Rowan too. Cole being in AEW would be perfect as well. Former Bullet Club..sorta...his wife is there and he can be a nice heel to work with Sammy. Jericho. Darby or Christian.

I hope literally none of this comes true.

[Nash Diesel]

This thread is so weird.

also yes, I know old punk and metal music. That’s what I spent my teens listening to, lol

It was cool until poor old ass cbac and Rip (who's not even that old, he's younger than 3pup!) had to be brought into it.

Thank God you at least grew up listening to some decent music in your youth. Although I do remember you telling me a few years ago that you were very big into Reel Big Fish.


I hope literally none of this comes true.

[BigAl]

Reel Big Fish had a big CT following in the 90s, for whatever reason. They headlined a festival around here in like 97 or 98, I don't remember exactly. But it was packed and I saw so many people with RBF merch on.

My 18 year old niece referred to Rage and Tool as "classic rock" the other day and it cut me deep.

[Hero!]

Who the fuck are reel big fish

[Nash Diesel]

Reel Big Fish had a big CT following in the 90s, for whatever reason. They headlined a festival around here in like 97 or 98, I don't remember exactly. But it was packed and I saw so many people with RBF merch on.

My 18 year old niece referred to Rage and Tool as "classic rock" the other day and it cut me deep.

I saw Reel Big Fish at a festival around that same exact time. 1998 Dot Fest headlined by Bloodhound Gang who came in on a helicopter. My buddy who was 5 years old had free tickets and we went, saw Slipknot before Corey Taylor was the frontman and this dope ass band called The Urge.

Anyway....RBF, they weren't accepted at all and people started throwing coins at them. The dude said something about getting hit with a quarter and how he was shocked it was a quarter due to the value of it compared to a penny lol. Next thing you know the crowd just starts pelting the entire band. IDK if they bounced after that or kept going lol.

[Hero!]

Reel Big Fish had a big CT following in the 90s, for whatever reason. They headlined a festival around here in like 97 or 98, I don't remember exactly. But it was packed and I saw so many people with RBF merch on.

My 18 year old niece referred to Rage and Tool as "classic rock" the other day and it cut me deep.

my 10 year old niece is very into the lamest hard rock bands like Halestorm and Five Finger death punch and she asks me all the time if I like “heavy metal”. Ugh. I just lie and tell her I only listen to elevator music.

i hope she finds real metal at some point.

[Nash Diesel]

Who the fuck are reel big fish

Back in my day we had this music called SKA and nobody really cared about it but for some reason because the Mighty Mighty Bosstones had a hit in that movie Clueless, we were made to believe it was the next big thing. Kind of like when they tried to bring big band type music back.

IDK man you might be a little young for all this talk I better tag Rip.

[Nash Diesel]

my 10 year old niece is very into the lamest hard rock bands like Halestorm and Five Finger death punch and she asks me all the time if I like “heavy metal”. Ugh. I just lie and tell her I only listen to elevator music.

i hope she finds real metal at some point.

Introduce her to In Flames.

[Romford Pele]

Call me out on what? Saying that Hero! is an ageist-which has nothing to do with cbac and rip. It's a joke between Hero! and myself that didn't require you to insert yourself like a Romford.

#Irony

[Romford Pele]

What does that have to do with anything? lol

Mark needs to stop loaning out his sock account to Romford.


How about you answer my question first. What does cbac and rip being liked have to do with me calling Hero and ageist. He is an ageist. It's a joke for one, one that Hero! gets because it's kind of our thing that we go back and forth about it.

But you inserted yourself like a Romford and for what reason? I'm still waiting on what cbac and rip's relationships with people on this board has to do with what I said.

The reason you won't answer it is because it was fucking stupid.


Call me out on what? Saying that Hero! is an ageist-which has nothing to do with cbac and rip. It's a joke between Hero! and myself that didn't require you to insert yourself like a Romford.

What are you doing?

[Nash Diesel]

#Irony

What is ironic about anything that was said? You insert yourself all the time without knowing what is even being talked about with some stupid comment. Bert just did the same thing.

[BigAl]

I saw Reel Big Fish at a festival around that same exact time. 1998 Dot Fest headlined by Bloodhound Gang who came in on a helicopter. My buddy who was 5 years old had free tickets and we went, saw Slipknot before Corey Taylor was the frontman and this dope ass band called The Urge.

Anyway....RBF, they weren't accepted at all and people started throwing coins at them. The dude said something about getting hit with a quarter and how he was shocked it was a quarter due to the value of it compared to a penny lol. Next thing you know the crowd just starts pelting the entire band. IDK if they bounced after that or kept going lol.

I think that was the tour I saw, haha. I remember Bloodhound Gang being on it and people going nuts for them. It also was a festival where I heard this band called Reveille and thought they were great.

People loved ska when I was in high school. My ex wife and her stupid friends still loved it 10 years after that for some reason. Never got into it.


my 10 year old niece is very into the lamest hard rock bands like Halestorm and Five Finger death punch and she asks me all the time if I like “heavy metal”. Ugh. I just lie and tell her I only listen to elevator music.

i hope she finds real metal at some point.

I hate to admit I like a couple FFDP songs. But in the late 90s Creed was my favorite band so I guess it's not so unexpected. My niece complains when I drive her to play golf and make her listen to late 90s rap metal. Or I put on a band like Flaw and she'll ask me why I'm so angry and listening to "screamy" music, haha.

[Romford Pele]

Dude, that is exactly what you do. And you cannot seem to keep my name out of your mouth, interesting.

[Nash Diesel]

I think that was the tour I saw, haha. I remember Bloodhound Gang being on it and people going nuts for them. It also was a festival where I heard this band called Reveille and thought they were great.

People loved ska when I was in high school. My ex wife and her stupid friends still loved it 10 years after that for some reason. Never got into it.



I hate to admit I like a couple FFDP songs. But in the late 90s Creed was my favorite band so I guess it's not so unexpected. My niece complains when I drive her to play golf and make her listen to late 90s rap metal. Or I put on a band like Flaw and she'll ask me why I'm so angry and listening to "screamy" music, haha.

Ska was very safe, very inclusive style of music. I remember Reveille, but their name is even more fresh in my mind after watching the Woodstock 1999 doc on HBO as they were one of the bands I was like, who? Then it clicked, they had a song with Cypress Hill.

Hey man, IDC what anyone says, I knew a lot of people that were in to Creed in the 90's. I hate to even admit this but I was talked into playing guitar for a band that was doing "My Own Prison" for my high school talent show in 1998 can't remember. Something happened with the amp I was using and the guitar kept going in and out so after the song I threw my guitar on a brand new xylophone.

I was also REALLLLY high as the bass player and I got high with the drummer's older brother about an hour prior.

[Donald]

I think with bands like Creed, Nickelback, Slipknot, etc. it's the cool thing to say they suck, but if you actually sit down and listen to them, there's a lot of gems in their discography.

[Nash Diesel]

I think with bands like Creed, Nickelback, Slipknot, etc. it's the cool thing to say they suck, but if you actually sit down and listen to them, there's a lot of gems in their discography.

You caught me off guard putting Slipknot in there lol.

Creed and Nickelback have talented musicians but their music for the most part does suck. A lot of those bands fell into a trap. Look at Staind. Foo Fighters are my favorite rock band today, they have a formula that stem from either Best Of You and/or Times Like These. You're not going to hear a song like "Stacked Actors" on the new shit. Although that Dee Gee's shit is fuckin fire.

That first Creed album is pretty dope though. I wasn't a fan of My Own Prison but they had some good lesser known tracks like "Pity for a Dime".

[BigAl]

Ska was very safe, very inclusive style of music. I remember Reveille, but their name is even more fresh in my mind after watching the Woodstock 1999 doc on HBO as they were one of the bands I was like, who? Then it clicked, they had a song with Cypress Hill.

Hey man, IDC what anyone says, I knew a lot of people that were in to Creed in the 90's. I hate to even admit this but I was talked into playing guitar for a band that was doing "My Own Prison" for my high school talent show in 1998 can't remember. Something happened with the amp I was using and the guitar kept going in and out so after the song I threw my guitar on a brand new xylophone.

I was also REALLLLY high as the bass player and I got high with the drummer's older brother about an hour prior.

That Woodstock 99 doc was great. I hadn't heard of Reveille and then ended up near the front at the side stage for their set at this fest and was blown away. Happy accident to have seen them.

I joke about my love of Creed but I still listen to them 20 years later. Their first album was especially great.

[Nash Diesel]

I mean, Creed gave us the soundtrack to one of the best wrestling video packages of all time with My Sacrifice. That's a good song. I think a lot of people got wrapped up in that singer's weird shit, coming out hammered on stage like that's never happened in the history of rock lol. I remember they had a song on a Scream soundtrack that was pretty dope. That would be a good song for AEW to get.

You know, AEW has some old ass weak songs they use but at least it's not AC/DC.

[Donald]

AC/DC is the greatest.

[BigAl]

I mean, Creed gave us the soundtrack to one of the best wrestling video packages of all time with My Sacrifice. That's a good song. I think a lot of people got wrapped up in that singer's weird shit, coming out hammered on stage like that's never happened in the history of rock lol. I remember they had a song on a Scream soundtrack that was pretty dope. That would be a good song for AEW to get.

You know, AEW has some old ass weak songs they use but at least it's not AC/DC.

They had a real good song on the Scorpion King soundtrack too. And it wasn't even him being drunk on stage, that's just rock. It was more the acting like Jesus thing that people made fun of, I think.

[kdestiny]

Can we keep things on topic please?

You can discuss your like of music in the proper place as well as derailing arguments as well.

[Nash Diesel]

They had a real good song on the Scorpion King soundtrack too. And it wasn't even him being drunk on stage, that's just rock. It was more the acting like Jesus thing that people made fun of, I think.

There was a specific show where fans tried to sue the band or maybe just Stapp and after that he just fell further and further. Kind of like Puddle of Mud guy lol.

Although it was cool seeing Scott Stapp on the Woodstock doc.

[BigAl]

On topic: is DDP involved with AEW in any way? So far I've seen three AEW dudes show up in DDPY and those are just the ones I recognize. For all I know some of the women might be from AEW as well.

[Donald]

I'm not sure but I'm sure DDP listens to Creed

[Bert]

On topic: is DDP involved with AEW in any way? So far I've seen three AEW dudes show up in DDPY and those are just the ones I recognize. For all I know some of the women might be from AEW as well.

He's part of the nightmare family and has walked Cody to the ring. He gave QT Marshal the Diamond Cutter, like to use as a finisher, not performed the move on him.

[Bert]

I feel like the QT apology thing leads to Paul Wight sticking up for Tony and that being a feud.

[Nash Diesel]

Wouldn't it be fair to say that Randy Orton should be the one to bestow the "Diamond Cutter" to QT? DDP gave it to Orton. What a drop. Randy Orton to QT Marshall. This is like what would've happened if Vince gave Tom Prichard feuds against Bret Hart and Diesel instead of the Bodydonnas gimmick. I did not know that story about DDP gifting the RKO for QT to use. Obviously it hasn't worked out very well.

Kind of like when someone picks up a signature Mark Tremonti guitar and they still sound like Romford Bert.

[Nash Diesel]

I feel like the QT apology thing leads to Paul Wight sticking up for Tony and that being a feud.

That would be fucking hilarious. Big Show leaves WWE because they weren't going to have him putting over established main eventers so he goes and does commentary only to feud with QT Marshall.

Comedy wrestling still has a place in wrestling even in AEW.

[Bert]

Wouldn't it be fair to say that Randy Orton should be the one to bestow the "Diamond Cutter" to QT? DDP gave it to Orton. What a drop. Randy Orton to QT Marshall. This is like what would've happened if Vince gave Tom Prichard feuds against Bret Hart and Diesel instead of the Bodydonnas gimmick. I did not know that story about DDP gifting the RKO for QT to use. Obviously it hasn't worked out very well.

Kind of like when someone picks up a signature Mark Tremonti guitar and they still sound like Romford Bert.

Spudz may be gone but his cringy forced nickname gimmick lives on.

[Nash Diesel]

Spudz may be gone but his cringy forced nickname gimmick lives on.

Man you are soft, you can't handle anything negative but you are so quick to spread negativity yourself.

[Bert]

How am I spreading negativity? You love to say I don't even say anything negative about AEW, which is false anyway.

[Nash Diesel]

How am I spreading negativity? You love to say I don't even say anything negative about AEW, which is false anyway.

I don't have an exact % but the majority of your posts are negative outside of when someone talks negatively about AEW.

You can literally have the last word on this subject but let me just say one last time. You inserted yourself and completely misunderstood a comment I made toward my boy Hero! It's not a big deal but you are wanting to die on that hill and I will let you.

Just don't get soft on me. Batman needs a Joker, and we don't need another Jared Leto.

[VHS]

Black's debut was dang near perfect. I just wish Cody didn't have to do his mock retirement speech before Black wiped him out again. Cody has become one of the most unbearable parts about AEW, and it has nothing to do with his wrestling. He constantly pines for the audiences approval and sympathy that it's gotten to be satire at this point.

Give Black the title now :yes:

[Nash Diesel]

Cody is a solid wrestler who IMHO needs someone like a Triple H to harness what he's capable of and put him on the right path. I'm not saying go back to WWE, which I think he should, I'm just saying he needs someone to call him on his shit and nobody has judging by the holier than thou approach he takes. But he's a GOOD DUDE. I've never heard anyone shit on him and most interviews he comes across real cool and smart.

Black coming in and smoking him, then going and beating Kenny Omega would definitely be crazy. I imagine Kenny will drop the other titles he has before losing the AEW title. It would be weird if he lost the AEW title first but who knows.

[Psycho666Soldier]

This thread is so weird.

also yes, I know old punk and metal music. That’s what I spent my teens listening to, lol

It's really a shame we didn't know each other during our high school years

[Nash Diesel]

Yes because it was extremely rare for teens to listen to punk and metal....

[Psycho666Soldier]

I meant because we both liked death metal but we were both more into it in our teen years.

Though I've been getting back into it pretty hardcore over the last 2 years.

Speaking of which, I love that Black consistently comes out to some variant of hardcore. I'm very curious to know what his new theme in WWE was going to be, but we'll either never hear it or we'll get a tweaked version for someone else down the line.

Unless he had rights to it and this was it.

[Bert]

I meant because we both liked death metal but we were both more into it in our teen years.

Though I've been getting back into it pretty hardcore over the last 2 years.

Speaking of which, I love that Black consistently comes out to some variant of hardcore. I'm very curious to know what his new theme in WWE was going to be, but we'll either never hear it or we'll get a tweaked version for someone else down the line.

Unless he had rights to it and this was it.


https://youtu.be/W7P185CxQyo

This was going to be the theme.

https://twitter.com/RelapseRecords/status/1423319637547098113?s=19
This is the theme he used, which is on Spotify and he previously said he liked the album. So I guess Tony licensed it.

[Hero!]

I meant because we both liked death metal but we were both more into it in our teen years.

Though I've been getting back into it pretty hardcore over the last 2 years.

Speaking of which, I love that Black consistently comes out to some variant of hardcore. I'm very curious to know what his new theme in WWE was going to be, but we'll either never hear it or we'll get a tweaked version for someone else down the line.

Unless he had rights to it and this was it.

yeah, psycho and I are into that dank shit. I also knew maybe 1-2 other people who listened to metal when I was a teen. I grew up in the hood, it was Hip-hop or Reggaeton.

black played his newer wwe theme on twitch. It was ass.

this is the song he came out to last night:


https://youtu.be/rBTqCIgpJ6s

[Hero!]

1.1 mill this week. 4 weeks in a row! That’s lit.

[Bert]

I liked the other song better but I don't really like black metal screaming stuff sooo

[Tainted Eclipse]

1.1 mill this week. 4 weeks in a row! That’s lit.

wow, that strikes me as a major success. much less stacked card and back in jacksonville and they still break a million. really excited to see what kind of ratings they do when punk and danielson(?) come into play.

[mth]

I watched the Black vs. Cody main event. Black's entrance was pretty rad. Nice to see Black mow through the dude but the fact that it's clearly just a midpoint for the feud has me thinking Cody's getting the bigger win in the end.

[JuveLeo]

I watched the Black vs. Cody main event. Black's entrance was pretty rad. Nice to see Black mow through the dude but the fact that it's clearly just a midpoint for the feud has me thinking Cody's getting the bigger win in the end.

I certainly hope not! Would be kinda pointless to bring Black in and have that happen to him.

[Morrison]

I watched the Black vs. Cody main event. Black's entrance was pretty rad. Nice to see Black mow through the dude but the fact that it's clearly just a midpoint for the feud has me thinking Cody's getting the bigger win in the end.
cody doesnt really have a lot of 'big wins,' to be honest. he lost to MJF and never got the win back, he lost his title match to jericho, was squashed by brodie for the tnt title. he beat brodie in the rematch, but with that being brodie's final match, we're not sure if that was supposed to be the definitive end to things with that feud. he dropped the tnt title to darby a month later. he lost to shaq and jade cargill. he lost the ladder match for 'face of the revolution' and a tnt title opportunity. the only real feuds he came out on top of were with qt marshall and ogogo, and shawn spears. so far, when AEW is intent on pushing someone as legit, they tend to follow through.

[Hero!]

Nono no Morrison, reign of terror.

[Murphy]

Peter Griffin

How do you find the FITE app for AEW in the UK? I see that Rampage will likely be on there, so I figure I'll bite the bullet and pay the 5 quid a month for it.

Plus I'm a bit fed up of watching Dynamite each week so late that I often know spoilers.

[Bert]

Peter Griffin

How do you find the FITE app for AEW in the UK? I see that Rampage will likely be on there, so I figure I'll bite the bullet and pay the 5 quid a month for it.

Plus I'm a bit fed up of watching Dynamite each week so late that I often know spoilers.

Peter hasn't been around lately, not sure what's going on.

:confused:

The same way you would any other app. Search for it on your app store or smart TV.

Do you own a smart TV or chromecast?

[Murphy]

Peter hasn't been around lately, not sure what's going on.

:confused:

The same way you would any other app. Search for it on your app store or smart TV.

Do you own a smart TV or chromecast?

I did check and saw that Pete hadn't posted for a few weeks. Hope all is ok.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I have FITE TV on my phone and ipad already. I use FITE for AEW PPVs. Have Chromecast too.

What I meant was, Dynamite airs live, but that's 1am over here. Is it then available right away etc? I'm hoping to start watching it on Thursday nights instead of Sunday mornings with my boy because he's long since lost interest.

[Psycho666Soldier]

Yo, that unused one is like a Morbid Angel song. That's fucking sick. It's a shame that one never came about.

[Bert]

I did check and saw that Pete hadn't posted for a few weeks. Hope all is ok.

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I have FITE TV on my phone and ipad already. I use FITE for AEW PPVs. Have Chromecast too.

What I meant was, Dynamite airs live, but that's 1am over here. Is it then available right away etc? I'm hoping to start watching it on Thursday nights instead of Sunday mornings with my boy because he's long since lost interest.

I buy ppvs on Fite with a VPN and I'm able to re-watch ppvs after they air so I imagine Dynamite and Rampage are also available after they air.

[Psycho666Soldier]

The PPVs are cheaper on FITE, aren't they?

[Bert]

The PPVs are cheaper on FITE, aren't they?

$20 USD with a VPN in the UK.

[Bert]

2.0 said on their YouTube that they recorded a Talk is Jericho episode on Monday.

[Nash Diesel]

Oh wow can't wait!! Hopefully they talk about the historical tag feud they had with the Super Smash Bros that Excaliturd randomly mentioned the other night.

Because of that pointless tidbit of history I had to explain to my homeboy that yes, Uno and his crew were actually WORSE than the shit we're seeing now. He always asks me if Evil Uno is gay, he asks me all the time who is gay because he's gay and apparently that matters to him.

[Bert]

Seems weird that someone would keep asking you if someone else is gay after you've already told them that they weren't, but okay.

2.0 is great though.

[Psycho666Soldier]

Oh wow can't wait!! Hopefully they talk about the historical tag feud they had with the Super Smash Bros that Excaliturd randomly mentioned the other night.

Because of that pointless tidbit of history I had to explain to my homeboy that yes, Uno and his crew were actually WORSE than the shit we're seeing now. He always asks me if Evil Uno is gay, he asks me all the time who is gay because he's gay and apparently that matters to him.

So it's a story about improvement and how far we can come as human beings no matter how low we are. Sounds pretty inspiring to me.

[Hero!]

Oh wow can't wait!! Hopefully they talk about the historical tag feud they had with the Super Smash Bros that Excaliturd randomly mentioned the other night.

Because of that pointless tidbit of history I had to explain to my homeboy that yes, Uno and his crew were actually WORSE than the shit we're seeing now. He always asks me if Evil Uno is gay, he asks me all the time who is gay because he's gay and apparently that matters to him.

you can let him know the lgbt people in AEW are:

Kenny Omega
Layla Hirsch
Aubrey edwards
Diamante
sonny Kiss
Nyla rose
Anthony Bowens

[Nash Diesel]

So it's a story about improvement and how far we can come as human beings no matter how low we are. Sounds pretty inspiring to me.

You are so full of shit today I love it


you can let him know the lgbt people in AEW are:

Kenny Omega
Layla Hirsch
Aubrey edwards
Diamante
sonny Kiss
Nyla rose
Anthony Bowens

I tried to tell him Kenny Omega was either gay or bisexual. He said "With who?" I said idk, but there is a long running rumor that him and Ibushi are possibly an item. So then I had to explain to him who Ibushi was and LUCKILY he remembered him from these old DDT deathmatch DVDs I have when Ibushi was like 18. So we hopped on Youtube and when I showed him the clipped highlights of him winning the IWGP title he remembered him even more. I didn't know dude was educated on New Japan as anytime something gets mentioned I have to explain to him. He didn't even know NJPW had done shows in the US.

I will say this....He is not a fan of Nyla Rose. He knew right off the bat she used to be a man and asked if it was even allowed or if it was just an AEW thing. I said there was a female "world" champion in TNA (Tessa) and he goes "Yeah but that's TNA" LOL.

[Nash Diesel]

Seems weird that someone would keep asking you if someone else is gay after you've already told them that they weren't, but okay.

2.0 is great though.

When did I tell him that Evil Uno wasn't gay? Nowhere in that post did I say that, I said he always asks. I have no idea other than a few people who are gay in AEW. On the list Hero provided I knew of 3 people confirmed: The ref, Nyla, and Sonny. Kenny I was never 100% sure on.

For all we know Evil Uno is gay. If he's not, then oh well.

[Bert]

you can let him know the lgbt people in AEW are:

Leyla Hirsch


Well, that makes this more real.

https://i.imgur.com/qKOFFYa.jpg

[Psycho666Soldier]

You are so full of shit today I love it

I'm feeling cheeky today

[Nash Diesel]

Well, that makes this more real.

https://i.imgur.com/qKOFFYa.jpg

It's sad I've seen more of the 2 on the right than the 2 on the left lol.


I'm feeling cheeky today

I love it.

FEED. ME. MORE.
FEED. ME. MORE.

[Murphy]

I buy ppvs on Fite with a VPN and I'm able to re-watch ppvs after they air so I imagine Dynamite and Rampage are also available after they air.

:cheers:

Happy to go through official channels for this, I know you've dropped me links before. :yes:

[Bert]

Renee Paquette still has a non-compete clause, but it's up soon.

Tony Nese and Kiera Hogan (formerly at Impact) were reportedly backstage at AEW this week. They should definitely sign Kiera. They need more women that can wrestle.

[Nash Diesel]

Donald

All your people are in AEW now. All that's left is to get the creative team and you'll be converted!

[Donald]

Tony Nese in AEW could get me on board.

[Psycho666Soldier]

I'm pretty sure Donald watches AEW and just likes to talk shit.

[Nash Diesel]

If you don't talk shit about the wrestling you watch are you even a fan? I don't think there's anything I enjoy in life that at some point doesn't piss me off. TV, wrestling, kids, whatever makes you happy you have to hold it to the highest standard possible.

[Hero!]

Renee Paquette still has a non-compete clause, but it's up soon.

Tony Nese and Kiera Hogan (formerly at Impact) were reportedly backstage at AEW this week. They should definitely sign Kiera. They need more women that can wrestle.


kiera’s fiancée (diamanté) works for AEW already, so I can see her coming in so they can team together.

Tony Nese should go away forever I hate his stupid face

[Nash Diesel]

The cupboard is full. Just because you can doesn't mean you should, right Bischoff?

[Psycho666Soldier]

Some things resurfacing about Darby. During the Speaking Out movement, he was called out anonymously by an ex for pretty manipulative emotional abuse. Somehow it got swept under the rug behind the bigger stories like Jimmy Havoc and David Starr. If what she says is true, it was pretty shitty behavior. There are always two sides to the story, but I think the fact Darby and/or AEW never made any kind of statement or showed some kind of transparency isn't the best look.

I know people can change and I've personally seen friends/acquaintances in toxic relationships that made both parties terrible to each other, but man, if Allin is just an irredeemable piece of shit, I'm gonna be pretty bummed.

The woman doesn't seem to be completely clean either, as apparently some other victim called her out on Twitter for silencing her story in the midst of telling her own story about Darby. Which could lend evidence to the toxic relationship possibility, but it's shit either way.

The original statement from Hawlee: https://twitter.com/Hawleeasaur/status/1273747225366204416

[Bert]

Some things resurfacing about Darby. During the Speaking Out movement, he was called out anonymously by an ex for pretty manipulative emotional abuse. Somehow it got swept under the rug behind the bigger stories like Jimmy Havoc and David Starr. If what she says is true, it was pretty shitty behavior. There are always two sides to the story, but I think the fact Darby and/or AEW never made any kind of statement or showed some kind of transparency isn't the best look.

I know people can change and I've personally seen friends/acquaintances in toxic relationships that made both parties terrible to each other, but man, if Allin is just an irredeemable piece of shit, I'm gonna be pretty bummed.

The woman doesn't seem to be completely clean either, as apparently some other victim called her out on Twitter for silencing her story in the midst of telling her own story about Darby. Which could lend evidence to the toxic relationship possibility, but it's shit either way.

The original statement from Halwee: https://twitter.com/Hawleeasaur/status/1273747225366204416

I don't think it was swept under the rug.
https://redd.it/hj1e8x

[Nash Diesel]

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. I remember reading about this and thinking for fuck's sake....."He threatened me if I didn't have sex with him" Oh yeah? What threats? This was all a bunch of nonsense and women and men think that they can get away with it today because apparently whoever gets on social media first and shits on their ex=the one in the right lol.
Bert This is one of those situations where Duke is like yep, I know what you mean lol. Poor Mark Hammer, banned like 8 times for nothing.

[Psycho666Soldier]

I read about those DMs, but without really seeing them or them making any kind of official statement, it's just unfortunate the story's out there as this nebulous thing that they either were trying to avoid addressing or felt it was untrue/skewed enough to mostly ignore it. I read in that thread a good point about how they handled the Havoc and Guevara situations and how it would be kind of weird if they just tried to sweep this under the rug through the rumor mill instead of doing what they felt they needed to in order to address it.

I do think the more I read, the more I think it was just a messy relationship with Darby just being kind of an ate up dude anyway(he talks about doing some pretty questionable shit in interviews), but maybe more of a "good wrestler, don't emulate him in real life" situation. I mean, putting him with Sting and getting a lengthy title run? That's a lot of exposure for a potential powderkeg that could backfire hard.

[Hero!]

My issue is that this girl still hasn’t shared any real proof. Whatever Darby showed AEW management was enough to clear his name with them and now this girl is just drumming it all up again. I know you wanna see the DMs or texts from Darby, but why not ask her to share any sliver of proof as well?

[Bert]

I read about those DMs, but without really seeing them or them making any kind of official statement, it's just unfortunate the story's out there as this nebulous thing that they either were trying to avoid addressing or felt it was untrue/skewed enough to mostly ignore it. I read in that thread a good point about how they handled the Havoc and Guevara situations and how it would be kind of weird if they just tried to sweep this under the rug through the rumor mill instead of doing what they felt they needed to in order to address it.

I do think the more I read, the more I think it was just a messy relationship with Darby just being kind of an ate up dude anyway(he talks about doing some pretty questionable shit in interviews), but maybe more of a "good wrestler, don't emulate him in real life" situation. I mean, putting him with Sting and getting a lengthy title run? That's a lot of exposure for a potential powderkeg that could backfire hard.

He completely made up a story for "sex sent me to the ER" just to get some money. He's a weird dude. I would think he's probably matured as he's gotten older though and this really just seems like a toxic relationship more than anything. I trust that TK would do his due diligence.

[Hero!]

People make up shit to go on Judge Judy too. The show pays all costs, including whatever the person “wins”.

We could go on there and I could sue you for somehh to big, get five grand and we split it. Reality TV rules.

[Psycho666Soldier]

My issue is that this girl still hasn’t shared any real proof. Whatever Darby showed AEW management was enough to clear his name with them and now this girl is just drumming it all up again. I know you wanna see the DMs or texts from Darby, but why not ask her to share any sliver of proof as well?

Yeah, it's a double-edged sword. More than anything, I guess I just wish they would have acknowledged it or something, even if it was an off-hand tweet or some shit. But if Darby doesn't face any repercussions, it does seem like if nothing else, Tony trusts his side of the story.

[BigAl]

People make up shit to go on Judge Judy too. The show pays all costs, including whatever the person “wins”.

We could go on there and I could sue you for somehh to big, get five grand and we split it. Reality TV rules.

I sued a landlord once and we got asked to go on People's Court. They offered to pay any damages I won but I declined.

[Nash Diesel]

Yeah, it's a double-edged sword. More than anything, I guess I just wish they would have acknowledged it or something, even if it was an off-hand tweet or some shit. But if Darby doesn't face any repercussions, it does seem like if nothing else, Tony trusts his side of the story.

Why did they have to acknowledge it to the public? And maybe they did idk but why does it matter? They don't owe you an explanation and was it the same situation as the ones you are referencing? Nope.

Drama queens.

[Sinner]

If a boyfriend/girlfriend of mine said 'if you do/don't do X, i'm not going to have sex with you' they would say it Once and then I would leave because I'm not a dumbass.

Also, if they are mean - don't date them/hang out with them.

Call me crazy

[Hero!]

Slightly off topic, but I was watching someone react to an episode of “my big fat gypsy wedding” and there was an episode about a 14-year-old girl looking for a husband. Come to the end of the episode and in the comments people say that they gypsy girl is now a pro wrestler.

It was Priscilla Kelly, who went on to marry Darby Allin for a couple of years. She’s signed to NXT now I think.

again, reality TV rules!

[Nash Diesel]

You ever think the decline in viewership, at least in the US, for pro wrestling is due to the reality tv boom that happened right around that 2001-2002 mark?

Dude I found more enjoyment watching New York and Pumpkin fight over Flavor Flav than pretty much any pro wrestling match that year lol. Seriously though, is there a correlation between reality tv blowing up and pro wrestling going down?

[Horatio]

You ever think the decline in viewership, at least in the US, for pro wrestling is due to the reality tv boom that happened right around that 2001-2002 mark?

Dude I found more enjoyment watching New York and Pumpkin fight over Flavor Flav than pretty much any pro wrestling match that year lol. Seriously though, is there a correlation between reality tv blowing up and pro wrestling going down?
Definitely agree with that. People hate that it's "fake" when the wrestling on TV is generally dopey, so they would naturally gravitate towards people just being people.

[Bert]

Excalibur is staying on commentary on Dynamite.

I don't really think AEW should pick any of the released people up. Bronson Reed and Mercedes Martinez would be fine at Impact.

[Psycho666Soldier]

I definitely want to see Mercedes in AEW. I think the women's roster is still lacking a bit, and they could use a veteran that can still go at the level she can.

Mercedes/Thunder Rosa already sounds badass. And I feel she'd make a great foil for Britt.

[Ringo]

I actually made a similar post to Bert's in the other forum but I do think Mercedes would be a good addition for AEW. Probably the only one of the newly released names.

[Horatio]

I actually made a similar post to Bert's in the other forum but I do think Mercedes would be a good addition for AEW. Probably the only one of the newly released names.
Mercedes in AEW would rule :yes:

[Horatio]

#rtruthisaew

[Hero!]

I’d hire none of these people for AEW. The AEW roster is set and stacked. Anyone else who gets hired needs to be a HUGE get like Punk or Bryan. That’s about it.

[Nash Diesel]

Again...the cabinet is full and has been full for a long, long time.

WWE's problem is that they turned into WCW with that roster size. Long before AEW was even a twinkle in Cody Rhodes' eye the WWE had way too many wrestlers. When people say WWE can't make stars, which is bullshit, but when they say that and then compare to the era of The Rock it's like well no shit. I'm pretty sure WWE's roster in 1998, including the 4-5 people in developmental or down in USWA, was about half of today's including those who are down in the PC we haven't even seen on tv.

When Bischoff took over WCW and started building the roster, it was rare to see him let anyone go. The crazy part is, those that he did fire/let go for the most part blew up into something beyond comprehension. Too bad he didn't have a crystal ball. It was easy for Bischoff to take stars established in other promotions and/or talent that were getting a buzz and just throw them out on Nitro in some cold match that meant nothing after it was over. How many times was I blown away at some nothing match between Juvi and Chris Jericho back in 1997 or turning it to Raw when out came Jerry Flynn v. The Mauler (only to see fucking TL Hopper v. Aldo Montoya lol).

The enormous WCW roster was a big reason why you never really did get much variety in the main event picture or even the US title picture after 1998. Once Bret came over it was like holy fuck, this is great! But again, too many fucking people. Fuck the politics backstage, you couldn't truly showcase 2-300 wrestlers on national tv and expect every single one to be the next Goldberg. I mean for fuck's sake in WWE and AEW you move around a couple people and you're like, holy shit there's Cesaro! Or holy shit there's Penta! Go watch Main Event, you'll be like holy shit that's what Jeff Hardy's been doing!?

Let's focus on what we have. Punk and Bryan coming over, great. I get TK has a neverending bank account and that's wonderful, employ the entire wrestling world. He could pay 100 wrestlers a million each a year and still have 900 million to jerk off to in his bed covered in cocaine.

[Psycho666Soldier]

Like, I 100% agree almost everywhere else, but I still think the women's division could use the boost :dunno:

[Nash Diesel]

Likes,I 100% agree almost everywhere else, but I still think the women's division could use the boost :dunno:

The only female wrestlers that WWE have released since 2020 that I would want to see in AEW are Ruby "SoHo" and Santana Garrett.

I'm not even a fan of either of them but they are good workers. Mercedes Martinez....Never been a fan. Being in the business 15-20 years doesn't mean you're top notch or even that good. Zandig for fuck's sake, need I say more. TAMINA, need I say more? Top promotion in the world for damn near 15 years, she fucking SUUUUUUUUUUUCKS.

But I will say this, if it means no more Red Velvet, if it means less reliance on subpar talent from NWA (no hate just honesty). I mean they snatched up Thunder Rosa-incredible talent. A lot of these women on Dark are horrid. Honestly they should just get rid of 90% of the women's division. They're just trying to put lipstick on a pig as my old redneck grandpa used to say.

[Psycho666Soldier]

The only female wrestlers that WWE have released since 2020 that I would want to see in AEW are Ruby "SoHo" and Santana Garrett.

I'm not even a fan of either of them but they are good workers. Mercedes Martinez....Never been a fan. Being in the business 15-20 years doesn't mean you're top notch or even that good. Zandig for fuck's sake, need I say more. TAMINA, need I say more? Top promotion in the world for damn near 15 years, she fucking SUUUUUUUUUUUCKS.

But I will say this, if it means no more Red Velvet, if it means less reliance on subpar talent from NWA (no hate just honesty). I mean they snatched up Thunder Rosa-incredible talent. A lot of these women on Dark are horrid. Honestly they should just get rid of 90% of the women's division. They're just trying to put lipstick on a pig as my old redneck grandpa used to say.

That's probably another matter of taste, because while I dig Garrett, I'd rather swap her with Mercedes there. Fully agree on Ruby.

I never saw Mercedes work before the Mae Young Classic, but I became a big fan. Beyond that, though, she seems to have a lot of respect among her peers. I know you're making a point, but no way even you think she's as talentless as Zandig or Tamina. She might not rock the world, but she's more than a solid grab. And while AEW is definitely full, like you said, there are some names in that division that I'd gladly take 5 Mercedes Martinezes over.