All Elite Wrestling

[Nash Diesel]

He was also injured in the beating he took leading up to his tag match at Mania with Daniel Bryan. Didn't he also survive a helicopter crash around this time?? LOL.

But yeah, I've heard of more injuries happening doing basic shit like a clothesline. Look at Triple H. Tore his fuckin quad doing a clothesline. Nash-tore his quad the 123rd time getting tagged in and "jogging" to his opponent.

Rarely do we get what happened to Hayabusa. Even Lesnar survived a Shooting Star Press.

[chatty]

Injuries are weird and can come from nowhere. Boxed for years and never injured myself doing it once bar having bruised hands. Played football years and injured myself loads, usually of ridiculous things, played as a defender for years, getting into physical battles, throwing bigger guys about, wrestling the lot, absolutely did my ankle though just simply chipping a ball and putting my foot down at a weird angle and twisting it bad.

Did my shoulder lifting a kettle bell where my technique was slightly out, wasn't even heavy, just miss timed it and boom shoulder was out for about eight months

Played rugby as a kid and did my shoulder not by tackling people but by overstretching for a ball.

These are much better athletes than I've ever been but I can defo see them getting injured doing lesser moves than the big spots. Think it's just sometimes you aren't prepared for something to go wrong doing something basic and your body doesn't act accordingly whereas for big things your me tally prepped and you body follows.

[Hero!]

I skateboarded and ride dirt bikes for most of my youth. Worst injuries were scrapes and I broke my nose a few times.

At 25, I pulled a muscle in my chest yawning and that shit hurt so bad I thought I was having a fucking heart attack. Took me weeks to recover, like what the actual fuck.

[Bert]

https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1395823767528656903?s=19

I've never seen Rocky Romero wrestle. Is he any good?

[Bert]

https://youtu.be/GCWo5f26kNc

Poor guy. :lol:

[Hero!]

https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1395823767528656903?s=19

I've never seen Rocky Romero wrestle. Is he any good?

Thats kinda wild that you’ve never seen Rocky wrestle before. Nothing against you or anything, it’s really just wild. Rocky has been around for so long and worked every major company not name WWE...I didn’t think there was any longtime fan who hadn’t seen Romero before.

he’s a perfectly fine and capable worker, really good in tag teams. Charisma out the ass.

[Bert]

Thats kinda wild that you’ve never seen Rocky wrestle before. Nothing against you or anything, it’s really just wild. Rocky has been around for so long and worked every major company not name WWE...I didn’t think there was any longtime fan who hadn’t seen Romero before.

he’s a perfectly fine and capable worker, really good in tag teams. Charisma out the ass.

I've really only watched TNA sporadically and WWE until AEW happened. I've seen 3 NJPW matches. I used to watch some ROH and PWG matches back in the days of the media thread and downloading shit quality avi files. :dunno:

[Sasori]

https://youtu.be/GCWo5f26kNc

Poor guy. :lol:

Lol. Speaking of AEW figures, is anyone here collecting them? This is who I have so far.

https://i.imgur.com/TulL9Rl.jpg

[Hero!]

I only have Cody. I’ll get more eventually, it’s a really great line.

[Hero!]

https://youtu.be/qsnJe_R5Yvs

Negative One has an entrance theme.

Here’s Cody playing it for him for the first time

https://twitter.com/codyrhodes/status/1396459663164645376?s=21

[Bert]

https://youtu.be/qsnJe_R5Yvs

Negative One has an entrance theme.

Here’s Cody playing it for him for the first time

https://twitter.com/codyrhodes/status/1396459663164645376?s=21

I hope he comes out at Double or Nothing. I expect a crazy pop.

[Bert]

https://i.imgur.com/yGdeCYE.jpg

So there is a mystery entrant. Betting on Andrade. It could just end up being Paul Wight though.

[Nash Diesel]

Unless Andrade is wining it I hope he doesn't show up at all. Ever.

[ckauffman28]

Completely forgot No Dynamite tonight :(

[Donald]

10 PM on a Friday has to be the worst time slot. Only thing I can think is they should advertise it during Smackdown to remind people.

[Horatio]

I've really only watched TNA sporadically and WWE until AEW happened. I've seen 3 NJPW matches. I used to watch some ROH and PWG matches back in the days of the media thread and downloading shit quality avi files. :dunno:

He's a good "wrestler" wrestler and I wouldn't be surprised to hear he's a highlight of New Japan shows. He's a guy who is great on the mat but not as raw as Tom Lawlor and he has a shootstyle kicks and grappling style like Bryan Danielson but he's not as psychologically masterful as Danielson. His speed and bravado are really what sets him apart.

That said, he had a really good match with Lawlor in MLW last year and he had some good matches with Danielson back in the day and I think they're all available on youtube. Too be honest, we all kind of thought he would take off as our great luchador under the Black Tiger mask but nothing really happened. Even the Havana Pitbulls tag team with Ricky Reyes kinda fizzled out. The Pitbulls vs Briscoes and Joe+Briscoes vs Homicide+Pitbulls matches were really great, i think Tainted Eclipse's Ring of Honor thread goes over more of his matches than anywhere else on the internet.

[Bert]

I don't love the day but the time works out great for me tonight.

Shida's last night as champion.

I feel like Inner Circle wins at DoN.

[Nash Diesel]

Britt Baker is the most WWE talent in AEW right now that has never worked there full time. Personally I don't like her look, gimmick, finish, BUT I do understand why she is getting a push and why there are people who think the right move is to put the belt on her. I agree, she should be champion. For what she's trying to accomplish I'm sure it works, it got a little too corny 1995 WWF for me with the dentist element being brought in. Who wants to be a wrestler when you can a make a killing doing the most feared occupation in the world (to me, I hate the dentist).

Shida is dope but she's so much better than everyone it's almost like they need to take the belt off her to make the rest of the division look decent. Lower the bar a little with Britt as the champ, that makes matches with Conti, Nyla Jax, Red Velvet, Jade, etc. look more "realistic". Shida wrestles these women and it's hard for them to keep up. It's like watching Asuka wrestling Liv Morgan and Peyton Royce in NXT. Not everyone is a Kurt Angle or Shawn Michaels where they can make the greenest and/or shittiest talent look incredible-that's a tough skill very very few wrestlers have-especially today not named AJ Styles.

[Sasori]

Conti had no trouble keeping up with Shida. It's also not a step down to put the title on Baker. She's had some great matches including the Lights Out match which people still talk about. As good as Shida is, she's doing nothing to get fans excited for the division. With Baker as champ, it will get more attention.

[Bert]

It's so great to hear a crowd. That girl can stop screaming whenever though.

[Tainted Eclipse]

my god that weigh in segment sucked

[Morrison]

Conti had no trouble keeping up with Shida. It's also not a step down to put the title on Baker. She's had some great matches including the Lights Out match which people still talk about. As good as Shida is, she's doing nothing to get fans excited for the division. With Baker as champ, it will get more attention.

shida's matches have been some of the highest viewed segments on dynamite.

[Hero!]

Yupp. Every week shida wrestles, her match is always the highest rated thing on the show and there is always a dip once the match finishes.

Shida is a draw.

[Supernovametalstar]

It's so great to hear a crowd. That girl can stop screaming whenever though.

I've only been in big crowds for things a couple of times. It can be easy to get overwhelmed with all those people around. One person starts yelling, then other people start cheering. It is anarchy! This was a good gauge at how over people are. Miro doing his best to not get too caught up and keep doing heel stuff. Britt Baker getting that pretty loud pop. As well as appreciative chants for Shida. Singing along to Judas. Seemed like a fun atmosphere.

For some reason, I'm feeling they will have Baker lose in an Austin/Bret type of way where she is a bloody mess and passes out. That way they can give Shida a champ win in front of people, Baker still looks like a lunatic, and they can still advance the angle a little further. Maybe hold off on a title change on Dynamite to juice those ratings since someone said earlier Shida's matches seem to be high drawing segments.

I still want to see an evil Riho vs Yakuza Shida, but maybe that's something they can program as a video game option.

Weigh-in segment was weird and took too long. You'd think if they were going to have Paul Wight messing around with the scale, they'd practice the bit first so it wouldn't be so awkward. And it seemed like they were stalling for a bit to get heat. Meh. I really don't see Agogogo going anywhere, and you know Cody's going to be gone for a bit for paternity leave, but without him, this whole Nightmare feud has nothing.

Inner Circle/PInnacle seems ripe for a betrayal with all this heartfelt "brother" stuff. Jericho said from the very beginning, they haven't turned on each other or hit each other with their finishes. And if he's going to be gone for a while, it makes more sense to have break them up. Santana and Ortiz can fight for the tag titles, get Sammy in the TNT title hunt, and have Hager do Hager things. But, you can't really have a sold stable lose the same match twice, but it would put Pinnacle over more. I guess I'm glad I can't predict how they'll go with it :)

[Hero!]

Willie Urbina let go for his racist mocking of Shida on commentary last night. That was quick!

[Bert]

Willie Urbina let go for his racist mocking of Shida on commentary last night. That was quick!

Good.

[Donald]

They're happy to get rid of someone with no name value. Good for them. If it was Jim Ross or Tazz, you know they'd send them to counseling.

[Morrison]

ok, bud.

[Bert]

They're happy to get rid of someone with no name value. Good for them. If it was Jim Ross or Tazz, you know they'd send them to counseling.

I don't see Tazz or JR ever doing something like that.

[JuveLeo]

Conti had no trouble keeping up with Shida. It's also not a step down to put the title on Baker. She's had some great matches including the Lights Out match which people still talk about. As good as Shida is, she's doing nothing to get fans excited for the division. With Baker as champ, it will get more attention.I agree completely. I want Baker to become champion. Her in ring work has improved since 2019 and she's undoubtedly the best on the mic in the women's division as well. Although i don't mind Shida retaining, I do think it's good move if Baker wins.

[Badger]

Shida’s run and matches have been great but yeah I’m ready for a bit of a shake up with Britt becoming champion.

Once Hangman probably overcomes Cage at Double or Nothing, I feel they may start on a run up to him and Omega at this time.

The Inner Circle losing and splitting up would probably be okay as they can do fine separately if they went that route but still leaning on them winning this one given Pinnacle got the last laugh and they’ve brought up how Inner Circle lost the Stampede match last time. Maybe a rubber match down the road?

Guessing Cody’s probably going over Ogogo but this angle’s weird and a bit backwards and that’s with Cody being smug. You’d think they’d have Ogogo as the roadblock between him and QT but it’s like they’ve reversed it when he beat QT earlier.

Also random question and this going way back to the Shaq disappearing in the ambulance but was that ever explained in an article somewhere as to why they did that?

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Was probably all discussed at one of Cody's focus groups.

[Murphy]

So the UK don't get this week's Dynamite until after the PPV on ITV. :lol:

I paid for it on Fite. What a farce.

And yes, that weigh in segment was fucking atrocious.

Looking forward to DON though.

[Badger]

So the UK don't get this week's Dynamite until after the PPV on ITV. :lol:

I paid for it on Fite. What a farce.

And yes, that weigh in segment was fucking atrocious.

Looking forward to DON though.

Aw man, you should’ve checked Youtube. Whole show was on there! Fast forwarded through the breaks.

[Bert]

So the UK don't get this week's Dynamite until after the PPV on ITV. :lol:

I paid for it on Fite. What a farce.

And yes, that weigh in segment was fucking atrocious.

Looking forward to DON though.

There's a website I told you about like three times now. :lol:

[Hero!]

Shall we get some predictions going?

Pre-show:
NWA Women’s World championship: Riho vs Serena Deeb (c): Deeb Retains

Main Card:
Cody Rhodes vs Anthony Ogogo: Ogogo via gut punch
Stadium Stampede: Pinnacle vs Inner Circle: Inner Circle win and stay together
TNT Championship: Miro vs Lance Archer: Miro
Sting and Darby vs Ego and Scorpio Sky: Page and Scorpio Sky
Casino Battle Royal: Penta El Zero M. Mystery guy is...I dunno, someone from impact. Moose?
Adam Page vs Brian Cage: Adam Page wins.
AEW Women’s World Championship: Britt Baker vs Hikaru Shida (c). Britt Baker wins.
AEW World Tag Team Championship: Wild Things vs Young Bucks (c). Wild Things win, new AEW tag champs.
AEW World Heavyweight Championship: PAC vs Orange Cassidy vs Kenny Omega (c). Kenny retains.

[Tainted Eclipse]

after all those months of getting over how the hell does john silver have nothing on the first show in front of a full crowd

[Bert]

Pre-show:
NWA Women’s World championship: Riho vs Serena Deeb (c): Deeb wins. Maybe someone shows up setting up a new feud or Thunder Rosa.

Main Card:
Cody Rhodes vs Anthony Ogogo: hopefully Ogogo
Stadium Stampede: Pinnacle vs Inner Circle: Inner Circle
TNT Championship: Miro vs Lance Archer: Miro
Sting and Darby vs Ego and Scorpio Sky: I could see Sting and Darby winning this even though I'd rather SkyPage
Casino Battle Royal: mystery is probably Andrade or *groan* Paul Wight. If it's Andrade I think he wins.
Adam Page vs Brian Cage: Adam Page wins.
AEW Women’s World Championship: Britt Baker vs Hikaru Shida (c). Britt Baker wins.
AEW World Tag Team Championship: Wild Things vs Young Bucks (c). Mox and Kingston win setting them up to lose the titles to FTR.
AEW World Heavyweight Championship: PAC vs Orange Cassidy vs Kenny Omega (c). Kenny retains.

[Tainted Eclipse]

SkyPage

since tony is on a music liscensing kick


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYc50S23pQY

[Bert]

since tony is on a music liscensing kick


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYc50S23pQY

I don't know though, Scorpio's theme now is one of my favorites in AEW. I like Pages solo theme too but Scorpios is definitely better.

[Hero!]

https://twitter.com/platinummax/status/1399032498961719299?s=21

new Platinum Max track before the PPV tonight

[chatty]

after all those months of getting over how the hell does john silver have nothing on the first show in front of a full crowd

He'll be brawling with Team Taz in the Page v Cage match.

[Bert]

I think John Silver is still rehabbing his shoulder. He was on Ethan Page's vlog.

[Hero!]

Bear Country and Mark Starling apparently signed to deals.

That’s now 7 people from Brian Meyers & Pat Bucks schools signed to AEW.

[Bert]

Bear Country and Mark Starling apparently signed to deals.

That’s now 7 people from Brian Meyers & Pat Bucks schools signed to AEW.

Makes sense why Bear Country is apart of the Elite GM Beta now.

[Murphy]

Aw man, you should’ve checked Youtube. Whole show was on there! Fast forwarded through the breaks.

Shit. Still, only £3.


There's a website I told you about like three times now. :lol:

Oh yeah. :lol:

[Sasori]

Also random question and this going way back to the Shaq disappearing in the ambulance but was that ever explained in an article somewhere as to why they did that?

I took it as them wanting to show how tough Shaq is. That he could just get up and walk away instead of having to go to the hospital.


shida's matches have been some of the highest viewed segments on dynamite.


Yupp. Every week shida wrestles, her match is always the highest rated thing on the show and there is always a dip once the match finishes.

Shida is a draw.

I stand corrected :dunce:

[Defrost]

Ross is having a rough night

That match was great

[Tainted Eclipse]

can the young bucks learn when to end a fucking match

[Tainted Eclipse]

im enjoying the show but the first three matches of a ppv taking an hour and a half to get through is nuts. they need to get a lot better at pacing their PPVs.

[Tainted Eclipse]

the last bit of that with christian and jungle boy was awesome. i'd like to see that match one on one

[Bert]

I was disappointed it was Lio Rush. I wanted Andrade.

[Defrost]

I was disappointed it was Lio Rush. I wanted Andrade.

This isn't where he's ending up

[Tainted Eclipse]

i really like ogogo

[Bert]

Cody wins lol

[Tainted Eclipse]

cody needs a heel turn

[mr sabu]

Archers due for a big win soon..

[VHS]

This Shida/Baker match is dragging an anchor behind it.

[VHS]

Good for Baker, but that was straight farty.

[Defrost]

Yeah that wasn't great

[Bert]

Darby looks even more like the I like turtles kid now

[Defrost]

STINGER!

[Defrost]

I love Old Man Flippy Shit

[Tainted Eclipse]

best match of the night

[Tainted Eclipse]

BIG MARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Defrost]

I fucking hate this

[Defrost]

Tag Title match was best thing on the show. Sting and Darby match was second best. Page vs Cage and the battle royal were good. Cody match was boring. Women's match wasn't good until the finish. Three way match was fine. Main event sucked.

[Tainted Eclipse]

i would have really really liked the tag title match if it ended with the doomsday device spot.

[Tainted Eclipse]

AEW still can't produce a really good PPV. too long, bad pacing. i wish tony would study some of the 2014-2016 takeovers or something, but i don't think they're going to get this right any time soon.

[Defrost]

i would have really really liked the tag title match if it ended with the doomsday device spot.

Mox is taking paternity leave from his one day a week job

[Hero!]

I enjoyed that whole PPV. Great show.

[Bert]

Cody does a good Homelander cosplay.

[Eddie Brock]

Sign me up for a Darby/Sting vs Young Bucks tag team title match.

[Nash Diesel]

Interesting that I went above and beyond mentioning AEW dropping the ball with Jungle Boy and boom, wins the battle royale.

Everything else was predictable, not necessarily in a bad way. I didn't see a single match going down any differently than it did-why would it?

The only negative I could take away from the entire show was the end of Miro-Archer. I was never a fan of Archer until he started teaming up with Davey Boy Smith Jr and I felt that was a strong role for him. In AEW, it's just bad timing I guess. They weren't going to have Miro drop the title less than a month after winning it.

[JuveLeo]

Good show, not great. I still think AEW's PPVs are extremely long. They need to cut an hour at least. I was losing interest during the last 2 or 3 matches.

I enjoyed the Darby/Sting tag match. The old man impressed me and can still go. Obviously not as good as he used to be, but I thought he did well with Darby. Nice to see Jungle Boy winning as well. Definitely wasn't expecting him winning to be honest.

[Murphy]

Lance and Miro was a slight letdown, Cody and Ogogo was flat and the stadium stampede was nowhere near as strong as the original, but I still really enjoyed the show. Tag title match was MOTN for me.

Special mention to Deeb and Riho on the buy in too. That was great. Deeb is so good.

[chatty]

Hopefully Jungle Boy gets a push and Luchasaurus turns heel on him. Think they would be better going separate ways at this point. Wouldn't care if I never saw Marko Stunt again as both of those guys have way more upside without him in the mix.

Get Cody turned heel because as much as he thinks hes a face he acts like a heel.

[Nash Diesel]

I wonder if Cody was this much of a weirdo while he was in WWE, or is this the product of being a weirdo in WWE?

[Hero!]

Cody is the best. I want it to get more and more over-the-top. I want him to turn into a bald eagle.

[Bert]

Cody is the best. I want it to get more and more over-the-top. I want him to turn into a bald eagle.

https://i.imgur.com/io1V1Yi.jpg

[Nash Diesel]

Props to AEW for getting about 500,000 viewers on Friday at that shit timeslot. 10pm Eastern-whack. It was on right after Smackdown so that was kind of nice getting a little preview of what's to come with that Rampage show.

[Hero!]

https://i.imgur.com/io1V1Yi.jpg

YES. I WANT MORE.

[Nash Diesel]

What's next for the World championship scene? Does Jungle Boy get the super push he deserves to the title? Do we get someone of pure AEW blood as World champion finally?

[Hero!]

Hangman Page beats Kenny after Dark Order neutralizes the GB, the young bucks, and Callis.

[Tainted Eclipse]

Good show, not great. I still think AEW's PPVs are extremely long. They need to cut an hour at least. I was losing interest during the last 2 or 3 matches.

I enjoyed the Darby/Sting tag match. The old man impressed me and can still go. Obviously not as good as he used to be, but I thought he did well with Darby. Nice to see Jungle Boy winning as well. Definitely wasn't expecting him winning to be honest.

AEW PPVs are exhausting. by the end of every one i'm always glad it's over and ready to go to bed. i love their TV product the large majority of the time but i really really wish they could tighten up their PPV game, but i don't see it happening.

[Tainted Eclipse]

Hangman Page beats Kenny after Dark Order neutralizes the GB, the young bucks, and Callis.


yes, but page should be taking out all those obstacles himself.

[Nash Diesel]

Hangman Page beats Kenny after Dark Order neutralizes the GB, the young bucks, and Callis.

Fuck you and the Dork Order. lol.

Let's be honest. AEW hates Adam Page. They give him these nothing wins against nobodies like Brian Cage who couldn't even beat Sting. They put him in the first ever World title match, jobs to old man Jericho. Spends a year in a pointless tag-team and when they break up what happens? Kenny the Meltzer Deepthroat Driver 69 Me Don Omega wins the World title and Page is jerking off with the Dork Order lol.

He's done brother. You'll see the new Adam Page aka Brandon Cutler get the shot before he does. It's true. Page never did anything on his own but that one time they set him up against Jericho-and then did zero with him after because they knew his status was simply riding the coattails of The Bullet Club.


yes, but page should be taking out all those obstacles himself.

Naw they should just have him kill the Dark Order, give the Evenflow DDT to Negative Uno and then sign with NXT.

[Bert]

He's done in the same way Jungle Boy was done. Long term storytelling.

[Horatio]

As a casual fan of AEW, i'm casually interested in Hangman Page. I've heard he's the shit, but i haven't been impressed by him. I do wish to see more of him as a whiskey drinking good guy is my kinda whiskey drinking good guy

I don't question the bookers for not shooting him up. They seem to be doing alright at keeping things interesting in their main event scene. I'd take anyone over Omega at this point, but i understand him getting his time to shine.

If he can kick ass all the way to the top, i say book it

[Nash Diesel]

He's done in the same way Jungle Boy was done. Long term storytelling.

LOL, is that the excuse? Long term storytelling? Ok.

We all know the reason Jungle Boi won this weekend is due to all of us collectively questioning Cocaine Kahn's reasoning for killing the push they had going for him.

If the long term storytelling for Page is let's just put this guy in the dumbest fucking situations possible and then we'll get him back on track...They're doing a great job. I guess that's the excuse we should use for all promotions, WWE has a lot of long term storytelling going on I guess lol.

[Badger]

Kenny should keep the title until Negative One grows up and takes it from him.

[Nash Diesel]

Kenny should keep the title until Negative One grows up and takes it from him.

They should just say fuck it and do it now. -1 is already the same size as PAC and OC.

Actually I think they should form a new Dork Order with -1 as the leader and he has Goldberg's son and the kid who won the tag belts with Strowman.

Maybe now that Strowman is gone from WWE he can join the Dork Order and him and -1 can win the tag gold from the Young Bucks.....? God damn @Donald (https://forums.rajah.com/member.php?u=69606) I can't wait until Strowman is in AEW and suddenly everyone is on his dick like you've been this entire time. You and Slutty McWhorecock=OG Strowman marks.

[Badger]

Or they can unashamedly rip off WWE and have Braun/-1 beat the Bucks for the tag titles.

[Nash Diesel]

Or they can unashamedly rip off WWE and have Braun/-1 beat the Bucks for the tag titles.

Kind of shocked they didn't already do this with Rowan when he showed up.

[Bert]

AEW actually cares about their tag titles.

[Nash Diesel]

AEW actually cares about their tag titles.

Once upon a time so did the WWE. And I question how much they actually care about them when Kenny Omega and Adam Page were not a tag-team prior, ever, and yet held the titles for almost a year before losing them to the people who book the division.

But yes, I'm sure AEW cares about their titles judging by how they're booked. Like when the #1 contender's wrestled against the Bucks at the last ppv oh wait, no that was a team that had one victory. Shows how much they care.

[Bert]

Once upon a time so did the WWE. And I question how much they actually care about them when Kenny Omega and Adam Page were not a tag-team prior, ever, and yet held the titles for almost a year before losing them to the people who book the division.

But yes, I'm sure AEW cares about their titles judging by how they're booked. Like when the #1 contender's wrestled against the Bucks at the last ppv oh wait, no that was a team that had one victory. Shows how much they care.

Mox and Kingston are the only face tag team in the rankings so it makes sense.

[Badger]

Santana/Ortiz gotta win them at some point surely?

[Nash Diesel]

Mox and Kingston are the only face tag team in the rankings so it makes sense.

If we're going by rankings then we should've seen the #1 contender's (Varsity Blues) get the ppv title match. If we're going by STORYLINE then Mox/Kingston v. Bucks at the ppv makes perfect sense.

[Nash Diesel]

Santana/Ortiz gotta win them at some point surely?

Doubt it. They should've won them from SCU and had a good run but we had to bury The Revival instead and get the EVP's gold.

[Bert]

If we're going by rankings then we should've seen the #1 contender's (Varsity Blues) get the ppv title match. If we're going by STORYLINE then Mox/Kingston v. Bucks at the ppv makes perfect sense.

Ok but they did have a title match. It was just on Dynamite.

[Nash Diesel]

Ok but they did have a title match. It was just on Dynamite.

Wow.

[Badger]

I’m too lazy to check but when was the last time anyone other than Cody been involved in a title change on Dynamite?

[Hero!]

I’m too lazy to check but when was the last time anyone other than Cody been involved in a title change on Dynamite?

omega won the title on dynamite, no?

Also, miro won the TNT title on Dynamite

[Badger]

omega won the title on dynamite, no?

Also, miro won the TNT title on Dynamite

Fair on Miro though it was pretty obvious and Omega was more a “special” episode.

Would be nice for a title change on TV to really shock.

[Morrison]

Fair on Miro though it was pretty obvious and Omega was more a “special” episode.

Would be nice for a title change on TV to really shock.

so what?

[Badger]

so what?

Not having a go, just would be cool to see something really shocking for a TV title change.

[Nash Diesel]

I’m too lazy to check but when was the last time anyone other than Cody been involved in a title change on Dynamite?

I think every TNT title change has happened on tv.

Kenny won the "world" title on Dynamite.

It's a little early in AEW's life to be having a bunch of title changes on tv.

[Badger]

I think every TNT title change has happened on tv.

Kenny won the "world" title on Dynamite.

It's a little early in AEW's life to be having a bunch of title changes on tv.

Not saying a bunch but something really cool once in a while like a Miro open challenge and somebody answers and unexpectedly wins it like say Jungle Boy or Guevara there and then. Just making a point that something spontaneous once in a while would be cool.

[Nash Diesel]

Not saying a bunch but something really cool once in a while like a Miro open challenge and somebody answers and unexpectedly wins it like say Jungle Boy or Guevara there and then. Just making a point that something spontaneous once in a while would be cool.

I will say this, I've been shocked at every TNT title change. For example, Miro. It felt like we were getting a solid feud with Darby v. Ethan Page that would lead to a TNT title match but then Miro wins it and I was like, holy shit that caught me by surprise. I thought Sting was going to give Darby the assist, keep everyone looking strong.

See, if Miro did an open challenge and Jungle Boi or Sammy G came out, I would know immediately that they would be winning because if they lost it'd be stupid. Miro is not over, Miro had to go back to being Rusev because his idea of what gets over didn't work at all-even with help from Sir William Mitchell.

[Nash Diesel]

Speaking of Miro....how long before Lana shows up with Powerhouse Hobbs and we get Miro in ANOTHER lame relationship angle?

[Badger]

I will say this, I've been shocked at every TNT title change. For example, Miro. It felt like we were getting a solid feud with Darby v. Ethan Page that would lead to a TNT title match but then Miro wins it and I was like, holy shit that caught me by surprise. I thought Sting was going to give Darby the assist, keep everyone looking strong.

See, if Miro did an open challenge and Jungle Boi or Sammy G came out, I would know immediately that they would be winning because if they lost it'd be stupid. Miro is not over, Miro had to go back to being Rusev because his idea of what gets over didn't work at all-even with help from Sir William Mitchell.

I will say I was shocked that Brodie beat Cody so so easily for the TNT title, probably the last time I was really shocked tbh. Miro was destined for a killer push after that arcade match so him mauling Darby was not a shock to me.

Miro being stuck in that Godawful wedding angle restricted him badly, now he’s back to his old Rusev roots.

But yeah a true “holy shiiit!” TV title change every once in a while would be cool. Hell Silver winning an open challenge would be tits.

[Nash Diesel]

I will say I was shocked that Brodie beat Cody so so easily for the TNT title, probably the last time I was really shocked tbh. Miro was destined for a killer push after that arcade match so him mauling Darby was not a shock to me.

Miro being stuck in that Godawful wedding angle restricted him badly, now he’s back to his old Rusev roots.

But yeah a true “holy shiiit!” TV title change every once in a while would be cool. Hell Silver winning an open challenge would be tits.

I guess. It'd be like back when Hornswoggle won the Cruiserweight title. I was so shocked I stopped watching WWE for a little while. Soaked myself deep in TNA and ROH during that period of time. Very very dark days of the WWE. And people think the last 2 years have been bad...

Silver v. Hornswoggle in WeeLC 2 would be fuckin dope.

[Badger]

Fuck it. If Silver beats Omega because Aubrey gets pissed off with Don Callis and Omega a la Hebner with Jericho/HHH I’d cheer it.

Silver’s a strong mofo for his size and the current standout of the Dark Order and I’d love to see him get pushed when back from injury.

[JuveLeo]

AEW PPVs are exhausting. by the end of every one i'm always glad it's over and ready to go to bed. i love their TV product the large majority of the time but i really really wish they could tighten up their PPV game, but i don't see it happening.I completely agree and I feel the exact same way once their show is done. Taking a couple meaningless matches to the prelims on YouTube would benefit their overall PPV show in my opinion.

[Nash Diesel]

Fuck it. If Silver beats Omega because Aubrey gets pissed off with Don Callis and Omega a la Hebner with Jericho/HHH I’d cheer it.

Silver’s a strong mofo for his size and the current standout of the Dark Order and I’d love to see him get pushed when back from injury.

He won't. Nobody in the Dork Order gets pushed now that Brodie is gone. I guess if Adam Page is part of the stable you have that but his relationship with DO is like watching a weird porn about Joe White and the Seven Dorks.


I completely agree and I feel the exact same way once their show is done. Taking a couple meaningless matches to the prelims on YouTube would benefit their overall PPV show in my opinion.

They make those 4-5 hour Manias feel like a quick nap lol

[Tainted Eclipse]

how the hell do you book such a shitty debut for andrade?

[Bert]

He should have been in the casino battle royale.

[Morrison]

He should have been in the casino battle royale.

to then not win?

[VHS]

Cripes, Red Velvet nearly killed herself w/ that dive.

[Peter Griffin]

This isn't where he's ending up

Lol.

[VHS]

Had a dream Charlotte started getting treated like garbage by management and she left WWE for AEW. Insane yeah, but just putting it here as a possible time capsule. :freak:

[Donald]

No doubt AEW should be able to get 1.5 million viewers now, with Andrade.

[Eddie Brock]

To preface this takes nothing away from Vickie however if Andrade debuted alongside Salina de la Renta from MLW they'd be perfect.

[Nash Diesel]

Had a dream Charlotte started getting treated like garbage by management and she left WWE for AEW. Insane yeah, but just putting it here as a possible time capsule. :freak:

You'll see Andrade back in WWE before you see Charlotte in AEW. I don't know...I've read a lot of people thinking they're attached at the hip and then we get the whole "Money talks" commentary. I just don't see it and we don't really have much history of couples following each other around promotion to promotion.

I felt bad for Andrade. He came out and it was like Alex Wright returning as Berlyn. You had like 20 people acknowledging the "get" but it's just one debut after another of former WWE talent. At least Eddie Kingston is a "get" that wasn't built in the land of WWE/or thrived on that platform since the 90's.

[Eddie Brock]

I felt bad for Andrade. He came out and it was like Alex Wright returning as Berlyn. You had like 20 people acknowledging the "get" but it's just one debut after another of former WWE talent. At least Eddie Kingston is a "get" that wasn't built in the land of WWE/or thrived on that platform since the 90's.They debuted him in the dryest way possible. Sure he can recover from it, but it was far from a stellar reaction, due to Vickie rambling so badly that the crowd had no clue what she was saying and they had zero chemistry together. That shtick won't work a second time.

[Tyrone]

Utilizing Vickie as a lead-in to debut Andrade was pretty lackluster. Yeah, I was surprised that he showed up mostly because I'd forgotten he existed but there are other creative ways to present his AEW debut. Oh well. Has pairing her with anybody ever seemed like the wrestler(s) benefit from it?

[mth]

I watched the clip, pretty flat way to debut for Andrade. I love Vickie but not sure if this is a good pairing. I'd repeat the above question to those that follow AEW. Regardless, dude is a superstar and I really hope AEW doesn't fuck him up like WWE did.

[Donald]

I feel like Vickie was less annoying in wwe

[Badger]

Her screeching has definitely gotten worse.

[Nash Diesel]

I watched the clip, pretty flat way to debut for Andrade. I love Vickie but not sure if this is a good pairing. I'd repeat the above question to those that follow AEW. Regardless, dude is a superstar and I really hope AEW doesn't fuck him up like WWE did.

She really hasn't been doing anything in AEW other than once every blue moon she comes out with Nyla Jax and that's about it.

Here it just felt like ok, she was married to Eddie, AEW has virtually no Latino wrestlers right now other than Pentagon Jr (I think Fenix is hurt-go figure). It was just lazy booking as Jim Cornette calls it. It'd be like if Nakamura debuted and they had Funaki introduce him simply because they're Japanese lol.

[Peter Griffin]

Off the top of my head.

Santana and Ortiz
Guevara
Thunder Rosa
Diamante

Not loads but a few.

[Donald]

Has Jim Cornette ever said anything positive about AEW.

[Nash Diesel]

Off the top of my head.

Santana and Ortiz
Guevara
Thunder Rosa
Diamante

Not loads but a few.

You're 100% on that and I think in my head I was thinking solely Mexican and probably shouldn't have said LATINO. Thanks bro.


Has Jim Cornette ever said anything positive about AEW.

All the time. That's the funny thing....I mean, he never ever gives anyone a 100% free pass from negativity but he will always give praise where praise is due. He's actually more positive about AEW than people give him credit for because they are all butthurt when he offends the MAGA Bucks or Kenny Omega.

[Sasori]

Serena Deeb is no longer the NWA Women's champion. She lost to Kamille yesterday at NWA's "When Our Shadows Fall" event.

[Nash Diesel]

Serena Deeb is no longer the NWA Women's champion. She lost to Kamille yesterday at NWA's "When Our Shadows Fall" event.

Good.

[Peter Griffin]

:yes:

[Hero!]

Has Jim Cornette ever said anything positive about AEW.

he likes Cody, FTR, and MJF. Although he’s mad at MJF for the dinner debonair

funny thing is, Cornette shits on AEW, but he does say that it’s at least not a boring unwatchable show like RAW and Smackdown.

[Hero!]

Serena Deeb is no longer the NWA Women's champion. She lost to Kamille yesterday at NWA's "When Our Shadows Fall" event.

If I’m remembering correctly, Deeb is an AEW employee, and was doing the NWA stuff due to some sort of “I o u” to Marty Scurll.

im happy that she’s free to just focus on AEW now.

[Sasori]

If I’m remembering correctly, Deeb is an AEW employee, and was doing the NWA stuff due to some sort of “I o u” to Marty Scurll.

im happy that she’s free to just focus on AEW now.

Having two women's belts must have been confusing for casual fans. Better to have all the ladies gunning for Baker now.

[Nash Diesel]

I can't believe she's only 34. I swear to God it feels like an eternity ago when CM Punk was in WWE especially the SES stuff. Deeb and Gallows were mad young.

[Peter Griffin]

If I’m remembering correctly, Deeb is an AEW employee, and was doing the NWA stuff due to some sort of “I o u” to Marty Scurll.

im happy that she’s free to just focus on AEW now.

Why would anyone owe anything to an outed sex pest and Nonce?

[Hero!]

Why would anyone owe anything to an outed sex pest and Nonce?

He worked a few dates for NWA and was set to have a bigger role before covid and eventually speaking out. I can’t recall what the story is, but something about Scurll owing them a few dates and they used Deeb to fill it since Scurll is persona non grata after speaking out.

[Peter Griffin]

Ahhh I get it, Tbh I question Serena being with him after all that went on but that's up to her.

[Donald]

I feel like just having someone come out to debut is a lazy way of introducing them. I'd much rather Andrade come out through the crowd, in a lucha mask to hide the identity, and hit Kenny Omega with a move, and then get on the microphone, unmask, and say he will be the face of AEW. Just walking out and saying it isn't as shocking. Same thing with Christian, he just comes out and poses without doing anything else. Why not have him a mystery partner in a match or something?

Even Big Show, rather than announce it on social media, have him come out on a Dynamite and have him chokeslam a bunch of people. I dunno.

[Nash Diesel]

I feel like just having someone come out to debut is a lazy way of introducing them. I'd much rather Andrade come out through the crowd, in a lucha mask to hide the identity, and hit Kenny Omega with a move, and then get on the microphone, unmask, and say he will be the face of AEW. Just walking out and saying it isn't as shocking. Same thing with Christian, he just comes out and poses without doing anything else. Why not have him a mystery partner in a match or something?

Even Big Show, rather than announce it on social media, have him come out on a Dynamite and have him chokeslam a bunch of people. I dunno.

I figured the booker of the year would have been able to figure out how to debut all these former WWE talents by now but I guess even the booker of the year still has a ways to go.

It was lazy. It's like the early 90's WCW when every week on Saturday night some former WWF guy would just show up, cut a promo with Gene, and then either team up or get beat by Hogan lol. Sometimes both!

They should have waited for him to debut after Omega v. Jungle Boy.

I'm just still laughing inside about Andrade thinking he was going to get Hogan level control over his booking. He was trying to get one over on TK and props to TK for not being a complete mark because it showed just how Andrade views AEW. Imagine if he tried to tell WWE "I want the power to veto a loss" They would've killed that conversation immediately. He tried to take advantage of Tony thinking Tony was just a young dude with money-which he is but again, at least he showed some backbone here.

[Donald]

I'm sure Shaq will be back, right? Why not wait until he is, and then have Paul Wight just walk down to the ring while Shaq is wrestling or cutting a promo or whatever. The crowd would have gone ape shit, especially as it seemed like no one had any clue Paul would sign with AEW.

Then promote Shaq vs. Wight at the upcoming PPV. Would get main stream coverage for sure.

[virms]

I figured the booker of the year would have been able to figure out how to debut all these former WWE talents by now but I guess even the booker of the year still has a ways to go.

It was lazy. It's like the early 90's WCW when every week on Saturday night some former WWF guy would just show up, cut a promo with Gene, and then either team up or get beat by Hogan lol. Sometimes both!

They should have waited for him to debut after Omega v. Jungle Boy.

I'm just still laughing inside about Andrade thinking he was going to get Hogan level control over his booking. He was trying to get one over on TK and props to TK for not being a complete mark because it showed just how Andrade views AEW. Imagine if he tried to tell WWE "I want the power to veto a loss" They would've killed that conversation immediately. He tried to take advantage of Tony thinking Tony was just a young dude with money-which he is but again, at least he showed some backbone here.

Andrade asking for that stuff in the article I read made me legit laugh. What a fucking dickhead.

[Nash Diesel]

Andrade asking for that stuff in the article I read made me legit laugh. What a fucking dickhead.

It really makes you wonder if some of these releases the WWE have been doing were due to people acting like Andrade. Go back the interview he did where Charlotte had to clarify a few things he said about her false preg test. She didn't clarify his comments about the women sucking other than Charlotte lol.

Konnan did make an interesting comment when talkin about the video package AAA put together for his return. Something about he was a "World" champion by 18, main eventing by 20. In NXT he started off very slow but skyrocketed to the top within a year or so. Maybe he was coming at the bookers with a little too much arrogance and entitlement so they didn't mind cutting their losses.

[virms]

It really makes you wonder if some of these releases the WWE have been doing were due to people acting like Andrade. Go back the interview he did where Charlotte had to clarify a few things he said about her false preg test. She didn't clarify his comments about the women sucking other than Charlotte lol.

Konnan did make an interesting comment when talkin about the video package AAA put together for his return. Something about he was a "World" champion by 18, main eventing by 20. In NXT he started off very slow but skyrocketed to the top within a year or so. Maybe he was coming at the bookers with a little too much arrogance and entitlement so they didn't mind cutting their losses.

I read up on Andrade on wiki and he's had a successful career in Mexico on a main event level but even then he's not really up there with the greats or even that pos del rio for that matter. I wish he would do an interview explaining his thought process on how he thought he was on a Hogan, Austin or rock level. I mean the guy might sell out a 1k seat auditorium on an indy show somewhere in a city where there is a feverish wredtling fan base but I have my doubts about that even. Maybe ego is sexually transmitted and he has got the flair ego virus running through his veins. :dunno:

[Hero!]

It really makes you wonder if some of these releases the WWE have been doing were due to people acting like Andrade.


Aleister Black has spent the last week convincing me that he's a total geek and I understand much more why he was buried.

[Peter Griffin]

Aleister Black has spent the last week convincing me that he's a total geek and I understand much more why he was buried.

Go on.

[Nash Diesel]

I read up on Andrade on wiki and he's had a successful career in Mexico on a main event level but even then he's not really up there with the greats or even that pos del rio for that matter. I wish he would do an interview explaining his thought process on how he thought he was on a Hogan, Austin or rock level. I mean the guy might sell out a 1k seat auditorium on an indy show somewhere in a city where there is a feverish wredtling fan base but I have my doubts about that even. Maybe ego is sexually transmitted and he has got the flair ego virus running through his veins. :dunno:

Dude, that last line is fucking gold. Like AJ Lee level burn lol.

I'm curious how big of a star he is in Mexico in comparison to others. I knew of La Sombra because my son is a big New Japan mark and loves Naito, that whole Los Imblahblahblah stable connection. But I didn't know if he was like a big name or anything. Mexico doesn't always have the best business going for wrestling so who knows maybe he was a main eventer when nobody was showing up.


Aleister Black has spent the last week convincing me that he's a total geek and I understand much more why he was buried.

Did you hear Cornette's take on Black praising Vince and saying Vince was all about his ideas, etc. ? If you didn't (or others) he basically said if Vince is doing/saying what Black said Vince told him, that means Vince doesn't give a shit about you. I can relate lol, I've done that to my family members I don't really want to do anything with I just put shit off and try to be as nice as possible about it.

[Sasori]

Black also said that he was supposed to get a title reign, but Vince decided against it because he thought it would be much better to do it in front of a live audience. This led Black to think that Vince was looking out for him. Talk about naive.

[Sasori]

Lio Rush was apparently injured at Double or Nothing and has decided to retire from wrestling.

[PurePlayer]

He likes Darby Allin as well besides the stunts he takes in and out of the ring. He's also a big fan of Jungle Boy.

[Hero!]

That's true. You can tell Jim wants to hate Darby, but respects Allin's natural talent.

[Donald]

I think he's praised Vance Archer too.

[Nash Diesel]

I'm pretty sure it was Cornette who also said that Kingston should be the only outlaw mudshow backyard deathmatch type wrestler that Moxley thinks he is which I actually agree with. He likes Kingston's promos, idk if he likes the in-ring work.

[Bert]

Santana and Ortiz aren't using the proud n powerful theme anymore. :(

[Nash Diesel]

Lio Rush was apparently injured at Double or Nothing and has decided to retire from wrestling.

They forgot to tell him Mizzark was also debuting that night and he pulled a Savage-Hogan-TNA "I'm retired brother" situation. Bounced out of the building, bounced out of the business all in the same night lol.

[Sinner]

Santana and Ortiz aren't using the proud n powerful theme anymore. :(

the new version is way better

[Hero!]

Funny thing: people on twitter were giving Mikey Rukus shit for the new PnP theme, saying that he’s a racist who put gunshots in all the songs for the Hispanic wrestlers…Mikey Ruckus is fucking Puerto Rican :lol:

[Nash Diesel]

Funny thing: people on twitter were giving Mikey Rukus shit for the new PnP theme, saying that he’s a racist who put gunshots in all the songs for the Hispanic wrestlers…Mikey Ruckus is fucking Puerto Rican :lol:

I'm 100000% positive that whole gunshot inclusion is because of the LAX theme.

I'm trying to think of the other 3-4 Hispanic wrestlers and their theme songs, I don't remember hearing gunshots in Penta's theme song but I could be wrong. I mean, if every Hispanic wrestler has a gunshot going off I don't know if I would call that racist unless Tony Khan or someone told dude "Why aren't there any gunshots in Sammy's entrance? WE NEED GUNSHOTS FOR ALL HISPANIC TALENT!!"

TK might be a Trumper but he's not exactly a racist.

[Hero!]

Diamante has some, but she's really the only one I can think of. Such a weird gripe.

And yeah, all these people were in LAX lol

[Nash Diesel]

Diamante has some, but she's really the only one I can think of. Such a weird gripe.

And yeah, all these people were in LAX lol

How about we bitch about the real issues in AEW as opposed to some lame attempt at painting someone racist because gunshots....

[Nash Diesel]

I'm almost positive AEW hates women lol. I just wanted to mention how sad that Britt Baker segment was. Why was it nothing but jobber tag-teams and Nyla Jax? What was the story behind the McDonald's? I told my friend who I watch AEW with (thank God for his DVR service) that I get that a lot of the top talent and EVP's are big Trumpers but did they have to reenact the McDonald's at the White House shit.

[Hero!]

Not sure why it was all the jabronis honestly that was weird.

Britt loves Big Macs and mcdonalds sent her 1500 coupons for free big mas for winning the women's title

[Nash Diesel]

Not sure why it was all the jabronis honestly that was weird.

Britt loves Big Macs and mcdonalds sent her 1500 coupons for free big mas for winning the women's title

I guess I don't remember anything about her and Big Macs being a thing lol. I'll be honest, I hate the women's division in AEW with a passion. This has nothing to do with me comparing it to WWE because not everything AEW does has to relate to how WWE does something. But I think that AEW should watch some older TNA and even TNA now.

The depth isn't the problem it's the booking. I was positive about Britt Baker winning but it really wasn't anything special in terms of the feud. It was alright, match was good enough to make up for it but then the follow up is what? Nyla Jax butthurt about being included with the jobbers? Throwing nasty ass fuckin Big Macs all over the crowd. Was this a babyface turn for Britt?

IMO, if I'm booking, Deeb v. Baker is the match to make. Former NWA champion now looking to get that women's gold. Maybe I'm jumping the gun and that was just a meaningless segment but who knows. Whoever is booking the women needs to be replaced immediately. We should be looking at heel Baker v. babyface Deeb or if you want to turn Britt, do it in a more meaningful way. Maybe she saves Tony from a verbal beating. Shit I think fans would just automatically side with her, looking at Deeb as an "outsider" so to speak.

[Bert]

Arns son even stands like him.

[Nash Diesel]

Fuck you Brock Anderson lol. Dude is like 23 looks 53. Maybe I'm alone and I'm fine in saying this but anything involving Cody Rhodes fucking suuuuuuuuuucks. Other than matches, I'm pretty fucking lenient when it comes to how I digest wrestling ability. So I can tolerate a match, but I just hate the guy. I hate seeing his face, I hate his self-righteous attitude, I hate his tweets, his neck tat, every interview, every angle, I'm sure if he read this he would blade himself and ask his focus group of Yes Men what he thinks.....I mean, if this is what he wanted to do in the WWE-jerk himself off and act like the biggest tool in the world-I can see why they said naw, Stardust. lol.

Or maybe doing the whole Stardust thing fucked up his brain and he still hasn't recovered. Everything Cody has done other than taking a beating from my Washington brother Brodie Lee has sucked in AEW.

Right now I hate to say it the only stuff I'm enjoying is seeing 2/3 of Death Triangle and then the occasional Eddie Kingston promo. I mean they have Jungle Boy coming in regular clothes and we still to this fucking day have no clue why he calls himself Jungle Boy, why he rolls with Luchaman and Marty Stunt. I thought they were going to reveal some dope Dragontales story but naw it's just bullshit. Kenny Omega, terrible.

Plus they had their worst ratings ever so hopefully they start trying. Come on booker of the year Tony Khan! Put down the cocaine, stop crossing your arms together thinking it makes you look like you have guns and pay attention to this fuckery going on in AEW.

[Bert]

The rating is bad because it's on 2 hours later than usual on a Friday.

[Nash Diesel]

The rating is bad because it's on 2 hours later than usual on a Friday.

Why does that matter?

[Bert]

Why wouldn't it matter?

[Donald]

Why are you discussing Friday Night Dynamite's ratings in the Wednesday Night Dynamite thread?

[Nash Diesel]

Why wouldn't it matter?

I asked you first lol. Why would it matter? If you are quick to use it as an excuse, you should at the very least have 1 reason as to why you think that way...

[Bert]

Because people are creatures of habit. They're used to watching AEW at 7pm on a Wednesday. Friday is also a big night to go out with the work week ending and covid not being as big of a thing anymore so it's not surprising ratings are low for 9pm on a Friday.

[Nash Diesel]

Because people are creatures of habit. They're used to watching AEW at 7pm on a Wednesday. Friday is also a big night to go out with the work week ending and covid not being as big of a thing anymore so it's not surprising ratings are low for 9pm on a Friday.

I think if they had something of worth to watch right now on Dynamite it wouldn't be an issue. That last ppv was almost like the last time WCW was good before the fingerpoke of Doom. Starrcade 1998. All downhill from there, kamikaze style.

[Bert]

Men Of The Year :heart:

[Nash Diesel]

So is AEW just not even going to try since they're not on Webelo night? (Shout out to any of you who get that)

I about slit my fucking throat watching that "MMA" match with Swagger and Wardlow. To an extent I'm a purist of MMA and seeing that shit was hideous. I was never a fan of The Lion's Den stuff either back in the 90's but at least it was a legend--still sucked though.

lol @ Brock Anderson.

I just can't sink my teeth into ANYTHING going on in AEW right now beyond simply tuning in to see some of my favorites. Which is pretty much how I'm digesting every promotion I'm watching these days. Nothing really compelling other than the wrestling itself but even that only gets you so far if the matches aren't that good.

[Donald]

I think the pandemic has hindered a lot. I know wrestling was pretty bad pre-pandameic, but it's all sunk to new lows. Granted I do not watch AEW because I hate the way their mat sounds, but I think it's the same across the board. With crowds coming back in over the next 2 - 3 months, I think we will see improvements in every company. I'm looking forward to it.

[Nash Diesel]

I think the pandemic has hindered a lot. I know wrestling was pretty bad pre-pandameic, but it's all sunk to new lows. Granted I do not watch AEW because I hate the way their mat sounds, but I think it's the same across the board. With crowds coming back in over the next 2 - 3 months, I think we will see improvements in every company. I'm looking forward to it.

I do believe that the lack of crowds in general does take away from the aestetic of the show but like you said, it was already pretty bad. Sometimes the crowds just sitting on their hands can make a show look weak compared to that same show being in front of a wild crowd. And vice verse, shitty shows can seem dope because everyone cheers every second (See AEW) but then you go back and realize 90% of it was forgettable and the 0ther 10% was done by the WWE.

[Sasori]

If anyone hasn't heard Eddie's post show promo from Saturday, it's worth a listen.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2G2HIVsuJw

[Nash Diesel]

At this point listening to a mediocre promo from Kingston is the highlight of AEW programming.

[Donald]

Is that the video where he blasts WWE, when AEW isn't doing anything different than WWE?

[Donald]

I'm sorry but using potty words and giving the finger on TV doesn't make you different.

[Nash Diesel]

I'm sorry but using potty words and giving the finger on TV doesn't make you different.

I'm going to agree on where you're coming from but disagree in saying that it doesn't make you different. I'll explain.

TV in general, you're correct. I could easily turn on 20 different shows that get 10x the viewers and it blends right in. On the other hand, in terms of wrestling tv-specifically the West (North America, Europe), this is different to an extent. In AEW, not so much. On Raw and Smackdown, for sure. NXT isn't as homogenized as Raw and Smackdown so we have seen a little more realism in promos over the years.

With all that said, I'm not as over the top impressed as others whenever Eddie cuts a promo. It's expected that he's going to have a good promo because that's what he brings to the table. I'd be more impressed if he could wrestle a decent match but he's probably too busy pining over Cesaro not doing the job to him years ago lol.

[Morrison]

Is that the video where he blasts WWE, when AEW isn't doing anything different than WWE?

lol at the thought aew isn't doing anything different. especially big lol when it comes from someone who refuses to watch the show. fuck off already.

[Nash Diesel]

lol at the thought aew isn't doing anything different. especially big lol when it comes from someone who refuses to watch the show. fuck off already.

AEW are doing what WWE did 20+ years ago and only getting about 5% of the audience.

[Donald]

Morrison sure laughs a lot. Good for him.

[Nash Diesel]

His inflatable isn't working out for him so he has to troll.

Over a week w/o anyone really even posting in here, nobody even talking about Jingle Boi doing the j-o-b to Kenny Olivier.

[Bert]

Everyone loses to Omega. He's young and looked great.

[Tainted Eclipse]

that was an awesome overbooked ending to the opening tag match

[Bert]

Lol the elites facial hair.

[Bert]

I don't understand why Hangman didn't come out. Is he not there?

[Bert]

Is this the first time Miros had new music and not been called the best man?

[Nash Diesel]

Everyone loses to Omega. He's young and looked great.

That's not a real excuse PB.

[Nash Diesel]

Is this the first time Miros had new music and not been called the best man?

No.

[Nash Diesel]

I don't understand why Hangman didn't come out. Is he not there?

He realized he's not a fucking idiot and signed with a real company. He'll be on NXT next week.

[Bert]

Dark Order is so great. Nyla still sucks. Just so slow. Don't go to the top rope if you're slow.

[Bert]

What a great match.

[Bert]

JR said WWE Dynamite lol

[Tainted Eclipse]

really really good episode overall. felt like the best in a while.

[Morrison]

I don't understand why Hangman didn't come out. Is he not there?
the whole thing is he is avoiding the elephant in the room.

it stands in contrast to when page was in the inaugural title match with jericho. he had the spunk and fire of an upcoming talent looking to become the fresh face of a brand new franchise, and none of the elite really stood with him in any significant way. the young bucks wouldnt second him to the ring like they would for kenny in new japan. we saw the break up with the elite play out. in the aftermath, page cautiously let himself get close with the dark order, while still dealing with his confidence issues and imposter syndrome, and unlike his time with the elite, you have the dark order standing up for him and making the case for him.

[Sasori]

The main event was fantastic. I think I liked it more than Omega v Jungle Boy. Probably because there was more animosity between MJF and Sammy which helped drive the story in the ring.


JR said WWE Dynamite lol

And after that great video package. What a way to go off the air on their last night at Daily's Place :facepalm:

[NWo4LifeOr2Years]

Well, I know I’m a tough critic but tonight’s match was just great: fantastic moves well performed; great selling for a change in an AEW match; nice storytelling within the match as well as setting it up….

The Omega - Jungle Adolecent match on the other hand featured very little selling with both wrestlers jumping up almost immediately after executing each move instead of selling and quickly moving on to the next spot. I refer to such wrestling ‘matches’ as exhibits of wrestling holds rather than matches to be honest as everything that makes a wrestling match (I.e., the emotions) are removed in the name of looking like a human video game.

not my cup of tea.

tonight’s match, however, most likely due to MJF, was an excellent match, best I’ve seen outside of Reigns in a while.

[Tyson]

Massive pet peeve: announcers who don’t know when to shut the fuck up.

Case in point: I’m watching a clip of Chris Jericho’s entrance from tonight’s AEW show, the theme music is playing, the capacity crowd is singing along to the lyrics, Jericho is loving the adulation from the fans. I don’t need or want the two dumbfuck announcers talking over the moment.

Case in point #2: Edge’s return at last year’s Rumble. I didn’t need to hear Cole’s voice there, shut the fuck up and let me enjoy the moment.

[Murphy]

Ryan Nemeth massively reminds me of Brian Christopher.

[Nash Diesel]

JR said WWE Dynamite lol

Can you blame him when most of the roster were former WWE wrestlers, some within just the last couple months?

Shout out to Excalibur for using a Jim Cornette diss on one of the Young Cucks.

[Nash Diesel]

Ryan Nemeth massively reminds me of Brian Christopher.

Hmm. That comparison might help me because I just see a bargain bin early Dolph Ziggler. It's like listening to that band Adema knowing the singer is Jonathan Davis' "brother" and all you hear is little bro trying to be like big bro.

[Bert]

Can you blame him when most of the roster were former WWE wrestlers, some within just the last couple months?

Shout out to Excalibur for using a Jim Cornette diss on one of the Young Cucks.

Not most.

[Nash Diesel]

Not most.

Definitely most.

[Bert]

https://i.imgur.com/azMn9th.jpg

[Donald]

What are the stats on guys who get TV time?

[Nash Diesel]

What are the stats on guys who get TV time?

Exactly.

81 HoMeGrOwN tAlEnT

Yeah fucking right lol. Do they even know the meaning behind homegrown? Doubt it. They included Kenny Omega in that fucking number.

[Nash Diesel]

I also like the line about "Tay Conti was MADE in AEW" Really? LOL. Also, in typical Proud Bert fashion, look at where he's getting his information from? Comical. A nobody who calls himself AEW's #1 fan....like I said, he's including Kenny Omega in that list of 81 non-WWE wrestlers. He's including The Young Bucks. He's including Pentagon Jr and Fenix. He's including SCU.

[Bert]

I didn't feel like going through it myself.

What's your point? They aren't WWE guys.

[Nash Diesel]

I didn't feel like going through it myself.

What's your point? They aren't WWE guys.

The point is your example is worthless lol.

If my comment was too generic, I can respect that. But to come with this dogshit of a rebuttal lol. All these homegrown stars. Keep in mind, most of if not ALL of Dynamite consists of talent NOT created in AEW, at all. At least Vince isn't taking credit for Sting.

[Bert]

I directly disproved what you said. 81 non-wwe people. But keep going double down diesel.

[Nash Diesel]

I directly disproved what you said. 81 non-wwe people. But keep going double down diesel.

In your world a win is a win.

[Badger]

MJF/Sammy was great though I kinda winced at that dangerous Tombstone spot.

[Nash Diesel]

MJF/Sammy was great though I kinda winced at that dangerous Tombstone spot.

It was good shit. Much better use of MJF and Sammy. 10 years from now I hope these 2 are still in the business and hopefully on top.

[Bert]

I read Miros music was new. Did you lie to me, Nash?

[Hero!]

https://twitter.com/mikeyrukus/status/1410706177999216643?s=21

[JuveLeo]

Last nights Dynamite was the first episode I've watched in a while. Damn NBA. I kept forgetting they were airing Dynamite on Saturday's.
Decent show overall in my opinion. MJF vs Sammy was definitely the highlight of the episode. Great match.

[Donald]

It was good shit. Much better use of MJF and Sammy. 10 years from now I hope these 2 are still in the business and hopefully on top.

Sammy would rather be on top of Sasha

[Nash Diesel]

I read Miros music was new. Did you lie to me, Nash?

You basically asked two questions and the answer to the overall question is no, this is not the first time he's had new music AND not been called The Best Man.

I think it's safe to say that whether it's the promoter telling him what to do, or leaving it up to himself to come up with something creative, Miro is lame.

What is this God's favorite wrestler and sexualizing his wife in the same sentence all about? "Thank you God for giving me the strength and for making my hot wife flexible" No wonder they named her Lana (Spell it backwards)

[Donald]

And they paired her up with Naomi, which also spelled backwards is funny!

[Nash Diesel]

On one hand I can understand the Jesus talk when you have a bunch of weirdo Christians and Trumpers in charge of the company. On the other, for a company that talks about how modern and PC they are, they sure do like to degrade Lana. Maybe Nia Rose will challenge Miro and win the TNT title for all the women out there being objectified.

[xtHeWalLsOfJeRiChOx]

Jericho, your heel commentator desk awaits you, when you are ready to finally retire, sir.

Good show.

I have no idea why there are subtitles on Andrade's promo. Either it's for the hard of hearing crowd, or TNT thinks we're all hill-billy yokels who can't understand thick accented English.

[VHS]

I also like the line about "Tay Conti was MADE in AEW" Really? LOL. Also, in typical Proud Bert fashion, look at where he's getting his information from? Comical. A nobody who calls himself AEW's #1 fan....like I said, he's including Kenny Omega in that list of 81 non-WWE wrestlers. He's including The Young Bucks. He's including Pentagon Jr and Fenix. He's including SCU.

Tay Conti isn't a WWE guy because she's not a guy.

[Bert]

Tay did nothing of note in WWE. I didn't even know she was in NXT til they mentioned it on AEW Unrestricted.

[Peter Griffin]

Jericho, your heel commentator desk awaits you, when you are ready to finally retire, sir.

Good show.

I have no idea why there are subtitles on Andrade's promo. Either it's for the hard of hearing crowd, or TNT thinks we're all hill-billy yokels who can't understand thick accented English.

Honestly their debut and presentation of Andrade so far has probably annoyed me more than anything AEW has done.

[Hero!]

Griffin you sexy bitch

[Peter Griffin]

Sup?

[Murphy]

:wave:

[Peter Griffin]

Yo Murphy it's coming home lad!

[Hero!]

I hope it doesn’t though

[Peter Griffin]

Don't get salty because Portugal shit the bed.

[Slare]

Really big fan of AEW, barely watch WWE anymore - just cant enjoy their product.

AEW does storytelling very well, has great in ring action every week, presents itself better, and isn't afraid to switch things up when something clearly isnt working. The ga-ga is generally actually funny too.

Came into this thread hopefully to find some likemindedness and talk the enjoyable 2 year hangman slow burn and how good a satisfying pay off would be - but no, its full of Nash Diesel trying far far too hard to be edgy and find fault in something he either a) doesnt enjoy watching or b) does but thinks its cooler to pretend otherwise.

Boring as fuck. Back out i go.

[Psycho666Soldier]

Really big fan of AEW, barely watch WWE anymore - just cant enjoy their product.

AEW does storytelling very well, has great in ring action every week, presents itself better, and isn't afraid to switch things up when something clearly isnt working. The ga-ga is generally actually funny too.

Came into this thread hopefully to find some likemindedness and talk the enjoyable 2 year hangman slow burn and how good a satisfying pay off would be - but no, its full of Nash Diesel trying far far too hard to be edgy and find fault in something he either a) doesnt enjoy watching or b) does but thinks its cooler to pretend otherwise.

Boring as fuck. Back out i go.

Pop in every once in a while. This thread needs more positivity

[Hero!]

Don't get salty because Portugal shit the bed.

I HOPE YOUR COUNTRY LOSES PETER GRIFFIN AND THEN YOULL CRY

[Hero!]

Really big fan of AEW, barely watch WWE anymore - just cant enjoy their product.

AEW does storytelling very well, has great in ring action every week, presents itself better, and isn't afraid to switch things up when something clearly isnt working. The ga-ga is generally actually funny too.

Came into this thread hopefully to find some likemindedness and talk the enjoyable 2 year hangman slow burn and how good a satisfying pay off would be - but no, its full of Nash Diesel trying far far too hard to be edgy and find fault in something he either a) doesnt enjoy watching or b) does but thinks its cooler to pretend otherwise.

Boring as fuck. Back out i go.

it’s hard dude. I haven’t actively watched wwe since 2019. It’s just not for me, but if I come on here and say “Great dynamite this week” I get the fucking cross examination from ND or Donald comes into this thread to act oblivious. It’s very annoying and it’s why I largely hate discussing wrestling on this forum anymore.

I’m with you though, I love AEW and with 2 youngins, if I have to pick wrestling to watch for the week, it’s gonna be dynamite

[Morrison]

yeah, this thread is terrible, and I'd given up expecting to have any worthwhile discussion in it early on when spudz was clogging it with his horrible brand of... everything.

thought about linking that twitter thread detailing out the ballad of hangman, cause reading over it just made me love wrestling and go into a fit of fantasy booking to matthew and torn, but figured it wouldnt be worth the time.

[Slare]

That thread was excellent, really got me invested in the whole thing. Thought they should’ve hung off later to make the switch but pretty sure August is perfect now.

Double or nothing in front of a full house was the first PPV me and my mates had gotten together to watch in nearly two years, absolutely loved it too. Yeah some things strike better than others but there is very little I’ll sit and watch on AEW that I think is complete shit - wheras on a random raw I’ll see clips of the Alexa stuff, the same 3 matches over and over, Miz getting splashed with water or whatever.

I would LOVE for WWE to be grabbing me too, I watch stuff to enjoy it, not to come and sound edgy about it in a thread.

Really looking forward to both companies being back in front of fans and on the road, building up Hangman’s big match in front of crowds, Miro finally being the beast he’s always threatened to be, Darby and Egos lovely little feud, and anything involving Orange, the Bucks, Baker, Kingston, Starks and a bunch more

[Morrison]

That thread was excellent, really got me invested in the whole thing. Thought they should’ve hung off later to make the switch but pretty sure August is perfect now.

Double or nothing in front of a full house was the first PPV me and my mates had gotten together to watch in nearly two years, absolutely loved it too. Yeah some things strike better than others but there is very little I’ll sit and watch on AEW that I think is complete shit - wheras on a random raw I’ll see clips of the Alexa stuff, the same 3 matches over and over, Miz getting splashed with water or whatever.

I would LOVE for WWE to be grabbing me too, I watch stuff to enjoy it, not to come and sound edgy about it in a thread.

Really looking forward to both companies being back in front of fans and on the road, building up Hangman’s big match in front of crowds, Miro finally being the beast he’s always threatened to be, Darby and Egos lovely little feud, and anything involving Orange, the Bucks, Baker, Kingston, Starks and a bunch more

i feel ya, man. AEW has allowed me to just be a fan again in a way i couldn't with new japan, as much as i have loved their output the last half decade plus of actively watching. it's not because AEW is a beyond amazing product or bang on perfect, necessarily, but because it doesn't have the baggage of a decade or more of bad faith, which honestly goes so far. it's why i can let the dud of a final explosion for the barbed wire deathmatch or the lame looking jericho bump in blood & guts roll off my back much, much easier than similar or even lesser things in WWE.

[Nash Diesel]

Really big fan of AEW, barely watch WWE anymore - just cant enjoy their product.

AEW does storytelling very well, has great in ring action every week, presents itself better, and isn't afraid to switch things up when something clearly isnt working. The ga-ga is generally actually funny too.

Came into this thread hopefully to find some likemindedness and talk the enjoyable 2 year hangman slow burn and how good a satisfying pay off would be - but no, its full of Nash Diesel trying far far too hard to be edgy and find fault in something he either a) doesnt enjoy watching or b) does but thinks its cooler to pretend otherwise.

Boring as fuck. Back out i go.

You could have said all of that without putting my name out there.

Funny thing is, go back about 2 months (not that you have to) but I was the biggest fan in here of AEW, probably still am. But any time someone mentions anything bad about AEW in a pro-AEW platform/thread/forum/etc. OMG it's like I suddenly hate everything LOL.


Pop in every once in a while. This thread needs more positivity

Talking shit is positive? Make up your mind quitter.


it’s hard dude. I haven’t actively watched wwe since 2019. It’s just not for me, but if I come on here and say “Great dynamite this week” I get the fucking cross examination from ND or Donald comes into this thread to act oblivious. It’s very annoying and it’s why I largely hate discussing wrestling on this forum anymore.

I’m with you though, I love AEW and with 2 youngins, if I have to pick wrestling to watch for the week, it’s gonna be dynamite

I'm the biggest AEW fan in this thread. Just because I don't blindly think everything they do is amazing like you doesn't change any of that.


yeah, this thread is terrible, and I'd given up expecting to have any worthwhile discussion in it early on when spudz was clogging it with his horrible brand of... everything.

thought about linking that twitter thread detailing out the ballad of hangman, cause reading over it just made me love wrestling and go into a fit of fantasy booking to matthew and torn, but figured it wouldnt be worth the time.

Yes the threads that you don't get to try and pop off like you're someone is terrible. Your only contributions are talking shit so do most of us a favor and give up on this life.

[Hero!]

Like 4 people in 1 conversation: nash diesel kills the conversation in this thread.

nash diesel: no ur wrong

[Slare]

i feel ya, man. AEW has allowed me to just be a fan again in a way i couldn't with new japan, as much as i have loved their output the last half decade plus of actively watching. it's not because AEW is a beyond amazing product or bang on perfect, necessarily, but because it doesn't have the baggage of a decade or more of bad faith, which honestly goes so far. it's why i can let the dud of a final explosion for the barbed wire deathmatch or the lame looking jericho bump in blood & guts roll off my back much, much easier than similar or even lesser things in WWE.

Yeah i think the good faith argument is a big part of it. Every other day theres another story about why WWE is a shitty organisation to work for and their real contempt for fans and lack of giving a fuck about seeing things through/developing stories. The crap part about that is the WWE is full of talent i really like, just presented in a way where i dont really feel inclined to watch. But again, that product isnt for 32 year old - two decade long fan Gary over here, its for some other demo.

AEW is pitched for me and I love it, the good faith is there because i can genuinely see them pivot, try to change or adapt stories that arent working - just even the notion of being listened to makes a difference. Theyve made me care about names I didnt know existed two years ago, everything seems fresh and there are a litany of directions they can go in. So I dont really mind when the dud explosion happens or when cody cuts a weird promo about america or where something doesnt really land for me, because I've got the confidence that the rest of the show will make up for it, and that THEY will recognise it didnt land and do something different next time.

Also, i largely stay away from wrestling twitter and forums now and jesus christ its so refreshing to just watch and enjoy a show without overanalyzing every decision, booking plan or error. Who knew.

[Donald]

:lol: