Madden 20 PS4 League - S2 Starting Soon

[Beefy]

Team List

NFC South
Mikey Jones (Panthers)
BBF (Saints)

NFC North
Alex (Packers)
Beefy (Bears)
Chris Scott (Vikings)

NFC East
Torn (Cowboys) - On Vacation

NFC West
JuveLeo (49ers)

AFC East
kdestiny (Bills)
Caito (Patriots)
CWE (Dreadnoughts)

AFC West
GBF (Chiefs) - On Rage

AFC North
Honey Badger (Ravens)
Pablo (Diablos)

Rajah Super Bowl XVI Outright market:
Kdestiny 4/5
Beefy 9/2
Mikey_Jones 5/1
Alex 12/1
Pablo 14/1
Honey Badger 16/1
Juve Leo 40/1
BBF 66/1
Caito 300/1
Loconut 1000/1
CWE 5000/1
Chris Scott 50,000/1


RAJAH SUPER BOWL HONOURS BOARD

Super Bowl I
The AI (49ers) beat The Rick (Broncos)

Super Bowl II
Mikey Jones (Colts) beat Chris Dolmeth (Seahawks)

Super Bowl III
Chris Dolmeth (Seahawks) beat Mikey Jones (Colts)

Super Bowl IV
Mikey Jones (Colts) beat MMH (Saints)

Super Bowl V
Pablo Diablo (Texans) beat Mikey Jones (Buccaneers)

Super Bowl VI
Beefy (Bulldogs) beat kdestiny (Raiders)

Super Bowl VII
kdestiny (Raiders) beat Mikey Jones (Buccaneers)

Super Bowl VIII
Morrison (Jaguars) beat Mikey Jones (Buccaneers)

Super Bowl IX
kdestiny (Bears) beat Pablo Diablo (Diablos)

Super Bowl X
Mikey (Ravens) beat Matthew (Rams)

Super Bowl XI
Pablo Diablo (Diablos) beat AI Matthew (Rams)

Super Bowl XII
Beefy (Celtic Tigers) beat CWE (Thunderbirds)

Super Bowl XIII
kdestiny (Bills) beat Mikey (Panthers)

Super Bowl XIV
Alex (Packers) beat kdestiny (Bills)

Super Bowl XV
kdestiny (Bills) beat Mikey (Panthers)


INDIVIDUAL HONOURS

Super Bowl Championships
kdestiny - 4 (VII, IX, XIII, XV) (Reigning Champion)
Mikey Jones - 3 (II, IV, X)
Beefy - 2 (VI, XII)
Pablo Diablo - 2 (V, XI)
Alex - 1 (XIV)
AI - 1 (I)
Chris Dolmeth - 1 (III)
Morrison - 1 (VIII)

Super Bowl Appearances
Mikey Jones - 9 (II, III, IV, V, VII, VIII, X, XIII, XV)
kdestiny - 6 (VI, VII, IX, XIII, XIV, XV)
Pablo Diablo - 3 (V, IX, XI)
Beefy - 2 (VI, XII)
Chris Dolmeth - 2 (II, III)
Matthew - 2 (X, XI)
AI - 1 (I)
Alex - 1 (XIV)
CWE - 1 (XII)
MMH - 1 (IV)
Morrison - 1 (VIII)
The Rick - 1 (I)

[LOCONUT]

I'm in. Happy to do whatever draft and play style works best for the group.

[LOCONUT]

We should probably do something to even the playing field a little. Super teams should only get built through smart Drafting and reasonable trades. When every human player has a super team all of the variables that make strategy fun are out the window.

[Beefy]

We should probably do something to even the playing field a little. Super teams should only get built through smart Drafting and reasonable trades. When every human player has a super team all of the variables that make strategy fun are out the window.

Yeah this is probably my main concern with the auto draft suggestion.

[LOCONUT]

I can also see how the auto draft could be incredibly fun. I will let you guys hash out the specifics but it's not as appealing to the bottom tier of players.

If everyone is an 86 overall there's a better chance for me and the other lesser players to still compete. When everyone is a 92 overall, there are no longer specialized strategies. Everyone is just sort of good at everything and it feels like you don't have a chance. Just my thoughts, but I really don't care how it all shakes out. I'm playing no matter what.

[Torn]

I think we need to trial a random draft to see what the teams come out like before we commit as in theory it's a good idea but you never know.

Draft board to allow auto drafting is huge for us.

[MMH]

I can also see how the auto draft could be incredibly fun. I will let you guys hash out the specifics but it's not as appealing to the bottom tier of players.

If everyone is an 86 overall there's a better chance for me and the other lesser players to still compete. When everyone is a 92 overall, there are no longer specialized strategies. Everyone is just sort of good at everything and it feels like you don't have a chance. Just my thoughts, but I really don't care how it all shakes out. I'm playing no matter what.

Honestly I think you will be competitive next year. Don't forget you have came into the league lateish each year so are always playing catch up with everyone else. I remember Alex was rubbish in his first year and now he is able to compete against anyone.

[Beefy]

Alex was brilliant in his first year. He made the Conference Championship where he lost to the 49ers but he should have won that season.

[MMH]

Season two then I assume. Everything is one year out for me as I didnt play season one.

[Pablo Diablo]

I'm in.

I think it's a fair point that we would have to try the random draft to see how it works out in a trial run.

[Honey_Badger]

Can I still get in this? I have a PS4 and I'm planning to land Madden 18 on the release date.

[Pablo Diablo]

YES!

We definitely welcome new blood. And you'll be starting this franchise the same time as us.

[Honey_Badger]

Awesome. Sounds good. I'll have to look through the old Madden 17 thread to get an idea of how to play. Has anyone snagged up the Cincinnati Bengals yet? Do we do a fantasy draft or use current rosters?

[Pablo Diablo]

That is the current decision that we are trying to make.

[Mikey_Jones]

I'm definitely in for M18. I feel like the gatekeeper for the Super Bowl

Bears - kdestiny
Bobby Wagner - MLB - 96
Landon Collins - SS - 93
Damon Harrison - DT - 92
QB is Trevor Siemian - 78

Bills - Beefy
Malcolm Butler - CB - 95
Harrison Smith - FS - 95
KJ Wright - ROLB - 88
QB is Teddy Bridgewater - 81

Broncos - son_of_foley
T.Y Hilton - WR - 93
LeSean McCoy - HB - 93
Linval Joseph - DT - 91
QB is Derek Carr - 90

Browns - Torn
Ben Roethlisberger - QB - 93
Ezekiel Elliot - HB - 92
Andrew Whitworth - LT - 92
QB is Ben Roethlisberger - 93

Buccaneers - Honey Badger
Brandon Graham - LE - 96
Mike Evans - WR - 92
Kelechi Osemele - LG -92
QB is Blake Bortles - 76

Chargers - BBF
Trent WIlliams - LT - 98
Alex Mack - C - 93
Martellus Bennett - TE - 92
QB is Kirk Cousins - 86

Cowboys - Miotch
Rob Gronkowski - TE - 99
Travis Frekerick - C - 95
Fletcher Cox - DT - 93
QB is Dak Prescott - 87

Dolphins - Pablo
Doug Baldwin - WR - 92
Alshon Jeffery - WR - 89
LeGarrette Blount - HB -88
QB is Marcus Mariota - 83

Eagles - Morrison
Von Miller - LOLB - 99
Jordy Nelson - WR - 93
Gerald McCoy - DT - 92
QB is Ryan Tannehill - 85

Falcons - Fro
Cameron Jordan - RE - 94
Marcus Peters - CB - 90
Jordan Howard - HB - 88
QB is Tyrod Taylor - 83

Jaguars - Alex
Le'Veon Bell - HB - 99
Zack Martin - RG - 97
Antonio Gates - TE - 91
QB is Cam Newton - 89

Jets - Grim
Andrew Luck - QB - 92
Janoris Jenkins - CB - 90
Jamie Collins Sr - LOLB - 89
QB is Andrew Luck - 92

Lions - CWE
Travis Kelce - TE - 99
Patrick Peterson - CB - 92
Marcus Gilbert - RT - 91
QB is Philip Rivers - 86

Rams - Matthew
Greg Olsen - TE - 99
Earl Thomas III - FS - 96
Desmond Trufant - CB - 92
QB is Deshone Kizer - 77

Ravens - Mikey
Tom Brady - QB - 99
David Bakhtiari - LT - 92
Shaq Thompson - LOLB - 86
QB is Tom Brady - 99

Seahawks - GBF
Aaron Rodgers - QB - 99
Delanie Walker - TE - 95
Devin McCourty - FS - 94
QB is Aaron Rodgers - 99

Titans - MMH
Eric Berry - SS - 94
Russell Wilson - QB - 92
Kyle Juszczyk - FB - 91
QB is Russell Wilson - 92

[Honey_Badger]

Fantasy draft sounds really fun. Play as your favorite team with your own built roster.

[Pablo Diablo]

So the one thing is we were going to do a completely random draft with no one actually drafting. The main issue with doing a proper fantasy draft is that it's tough to get people together to do the regular draft, and then we typically only get all those people for the first couple rounds.

[LOCONUT]

Can I still get in this? I have a PS4 and I'm planning to land Madden 18 on the release date.

Welcome home.

[Miotch]

I'm in.

Honey Badger where do you live? Generally North American players get teams from one conference and rest of world gets the other. It makes it easier to schedule games since you'll play your own conference more often. North America gets the NFC this year I believe.

As far as drafts go I would say let's test the results with one random draft. I can't imagine there's going to be TOO much disparity between teams. I also like that it's random. With that said I think if we do it this way we might consider sticking to trades being fair game, especially for the first season? I do think this would be a ton of fun though.

[BBF]

I will be making a triumphant return and will be IN

[Honey_Badger]

I live in Cincinnati, OH.

[Miotch]

I live in Cincinnati, OH.

Oh snap. The Nati. You'll be happy to know that in last year's game Carlos Dunlap held the all time single season sack record. (for a season)

This is good news though. The North American side can use some more players.

[Honey_Badger]

I'm here and ready to play.

Just please, don't force me to use Andy Dalton as my QB. LOL.

[Torn]

LOL!!!!

[Torn]

Not sure trades should be fair game regardless of the set up. Trade with each other.

[MMH]

Yeah pointless to change everything but still have trades how they are now. Nobodies team resembles a real life one regardless after a few weeks.

A limit would work.

[Miotch]

I'd be good with a limit. It would allow you to make an upgrade here or there, but not tear down the entire thing. Other trade rule ideas would include:

- Not being able to trade future draft picks to sweeten a pot
- Not being allowed to trade up into the first round for an additional first round pick. Maybe we allow people to trade up, but this would prohibit the entire first round essentially being us.
- No limit on number of draft day trades during the draft, though the above should still possibly apply
- Throwing out an idea for trade limits, but we each could be allowed two in season trades and one off season trade per year?

[Morrison]

I'd be good with a limit. It would allow you to make an upgrade here or there, but not tear down the entire thing. Other trade rule ideas would include:

- Not being able to trade future draft picks to sweeten a pot
- Not being allowed to trade up into the first round for an additional first round pick. Maybe we allow people to trade up, but this would prohibit the entire first round essentially being us.
- No limit on number of draft day trades during the draft, though the above should still possibly apply
- Throwing out an idea for trade limits, but we each could be allowed two in season trades and one off season trade per year?

i think this is a good foundation to build from.

not allowing the inclusion of draft picks in trades would at least make a person have to give up more active roster members to make the trade go through, or give up someone that's got a higher rating and more valuable, which would put a check on lop-sided trades.

i think limiting the first round of the draft is a good idea, too. only one pick in the first round per user team, and you have to stay at the pick you land? cause i'd hate to see half the user teams trade up so that the entire first eight picks of the draft are all user teams, cause this can be just as bad as multiple user picks in the first round, especially in weaker draft classes.

putting a number limit on trades would also help. i also wonder if there is a good way to incentivize user to user trades. definitely don't put a limit on user to user trades.

[CWE]

I'd like in this if possible.

[Pablo Diablo]

YESSSS More new blood.

[Kdestiny]

If we do the random draft then I guess team pick doesn't matter quite as much except figuring out who is in which division.

I do think if we do the auto draft then there isn't really as much of a need to limit player trades right? All of the teams should be fairly even.

As far as draft picks I do think we need to keep out of the ridiculousness of having 25 of the 32 picks be users. Though I don't see a problem trading up in the first round as long as you are giving up your first round pick to trade up? Though that might be getting too specific and we may be better off just not doing it anyways.

Edit: Did see that it looks like the worst team in the NFC is the Rams, but with the Watkins trade that could mean it's the 49ers now perhaps

[Pablo Diablo]

The reason we'd want to limit our trades even with even squads to begin with is to prevent someone from abusing the AI to create a team that is head and shoulders above right away. Obviously we want teams ot improve with the draft and you can tweak your team, we just want to avoid a situation where you've traded away a 4th and 5th pick in the draft 4 seasons from now, to get a stud player.

[Miotch]

I also want to clarify that you should be able to trade your picks for the current season, but not for future seasons, at least before the draft, as I was suggesting above.

[Kdestiny]

I also want to clarify that you should be able to trade your picks for the current season, but not for future seasons, at least before the draft, as I was suggesting above.

This I think we should absolutely go with. I think those can be overvalued a bit for sure.

[LOCONUT]

I'd like in this if possible.

Awesome. This is the best non-podcast activity on Rajah.

[Matthew]

morrison did the qb sneak in the afc title game and the result should be changed because of this

[Matthew]

Awesome. This is the best non-podcast activity on Rajah.
i mean i don't want to sound elitist. just don't know if it is a good idea to have some random dude who looks to just pop in to the forums for a bit and leave for a month or two or however long.

[Matthew]

Yeah pointless to change everything but still have trades how they are now. Nobodies team resembles a real life one regardless after a few weeks.

A limit would work.
my team stayed basically the same all madden 17, i think i only had to replace a rb, so fuck you

[Pablo Diablo]

Except you named them all Dick or Brett Favre II. Don't forget that.

Also CWE is pretty reliable in the board games forum. He's a trusted mafia man.

[Matthew]

okay you can vouch for him but if he flakes out, you can no longer be black.

BrettRod Favre II, get it right.

the dick line was amazing.

[Grimario]

I will be making a triumphant return and will be IN

Same but without the triumphant bit.

I miss you cunts.

[Morrison]

Except you named them all Dick or Brett Favre II. Don't forget that.

Also CWE is pretty reliable in the board games forum. He's a trusted mafia man.

he posted three times in the month of july and this was his first post in august. i'm all for new people, and i'm not saying to not let him join, but these new members need to know what they're getting themselves into as far as how often games need to be played and scheduling practices. we kept a very quick pace this past game, i'd hate for that to get fucked up.

[CWE]

I play ps4 everyday. Don't worry about that with me.

[Beefy]

I do think if we do the auto draft then there isn't really as much of a need to limit player trades right? All of the teams should be fairly even.


I'd say the opposite - if everyone has a roughly equal squad then it removes the justification for making shitty trades which has often been to try to drag the team up

[Torn]

Agreed

[Fro]

I might be in but I need to buy a PS4. When would I need to be set up by?

Also just curious do you guys all buy digital or do you buy hard copies and get any money back for trading in last year's version of Madden?

[Beefy]

Trading in gets you next to nothing unfortunately. I usually go digital but this year bought the disc. I'll just give it to a friend probably (or frame it to commemorate my Super Bowl victory).

[Fro]

Gotcha, so when would I need to have a PS4 in order to join this league?

[Miotch]

The sooner the better but you can join at any time.

[Beefy]

You can join whenever you want - doesn't have to be week one. We usually start the league the first weekend of the real NFL season which would be three weeks time but that date isn't set in stone yet for this year.

[Miotch]

I'm hopeful that will actually be able to work for me by the way.

[Fro]

I'm in, and I should be set up in time for the draft.

[LOCONUT]

FUCK YES.

[Morrison]

so i preordered the GOAT edition which lets me access the game starting on at midnight. pretty sure it pre-installed a couple days ago, so i'll probably do a mock league and draft tonight, and likely stream it, just to see what shakes out.

[Miotch]

ooh interesting

[Morrison]

i'll start and auto draft, and then take a look at the teams based on who we all were last game just as a point of reference since we havent picked yet for this season.

[Morrison]

probably be partied up with matthew for some banter. hes preordered as well, so if his game installs in a decent amount of time we'll play some draft champs or some shit.

[LOCONUT]

Awesome.

[LOCONUT]

Looks like I will be live in an hour as well.

[Grimario]

Anyone live yet?

[LOCONUT]

I'm not going to be on for another 2 hours but I will stream a draft champs later.

[LOCONUT]

Apparently its called MUT drafts this year and its 20 rounds now instead of 15. Also the first round is no longer a QB round.

[Morrison]

i'm about to hop on.

[Morrison]

http://twitch.tv/swingkungfu37

i'm live.

[Morrison]

broadcast should be archived. i start off making a league and doing the auto draft.

did it two times. first time, highest OVR for a team was the seahawks at 89. lowest was an 82. second time, highest rated team was a tie with a handful of teams at 87, with the lowest rated an 82. i imagine a team getting an OVR of 79 or below is unlikely given the pool of talent getting drafted. i wouldn't be surprised if there manages to be a 90 OVR team when the draft finishes. but it seems most of the teams fell between an 83-86 OVR. the builds of teams will certainly be interesting. a lot of teams ended up with mid 70 OVR QB's as their starters. every team had a clear deficiency or two, with no team looking stacked, in a general sense. in one of the drafts the jags had a pretty great defense, but a terrible o-line.

overall, i think this will definitely work for what we're trying to accomplish. it'll make logging in and looking at our teams for the first time exciting. beefy will have to start the league and do the draft on stream and skip to the end of the draft, because as commish, when you start a league with a fantasy draft you automatically get the first pick and i don't think we can trust him not to quickly select odell as his first pick and then force the rest.

before the draft, we'll just need to get teams picked. i assume we keep things divided by region and conference, NA going NFC this year with The World going AFC, with pabs and torn doing a trade out. i'm sure there's debate and ideas about how those teams get picked. i know torn and i have expressed interest in being the eagles and cowboys again. keeping at least two users in divisions would be nice.

[Beefy]

:squint:

My only real reservation about this process is the AI being an idiot and having shit drafting logic. It'll be good to run a few practices and see if there are any cases of one team drafting Rodgers and Cam, for example.

[Grimario]

broadcast should be archived. i start off making a league and doing the auto draft.

did it two times. first time, highest OVR for a team was the seahawks at 89. lowest was an 82. second time, highest rated team was a tie with a handful of teams at 87, with the lowest rated an 82. i imagine a team getting an OVR of 79 or below is unlikely given the pool of talent getting drafted. i wouldn't be surprised if there manages to be a 90 OVR team when the draft finishes. but it seems most of the teams fell between an 83-86 OVR. the builds of teams will certainly be interesting. a lot of teams ended up with mid 70 OVR QB's as their starters. every team had a clear deficiency or two, with no team looking stacked, in a general sense. in one of the drafts the jags had a pretty great defense, but a terrible o-line.

overall, i think this will definitely work for what we're trying to accomplish. it'll make logging in and looking at our teams for the first time exciting. beefy will have to start the league and do the draft on stream and skip to the end of the draft, because as commish, when you start a league with a fantasy draft you automatically get the first pick and i don't think we can trust him not to quickly select odell as his first pick and then force the rest.

before the draft, we'll just need to get teams picked. i assume we keep things divided by region and conference, NA going NFC this year with The World going AFC, with pabs and torn doing a trade out. i'm sure there's debate and ideas about how those teams get picked. i know torn and i have expressed interest in being the eagles and cowboys again. keeping at least two users in divisions would be nice.

How did you go about finding ratings? I dropped off the stream and didn't end up seeing what the ratings were.

[Miotch]

He invited Matthew to the league and when he joined he was able to scroll through each available team.

[Miotch]

Also the commishj doesn't automatically end up with the first pick. Morrison didn't the second time around. He tooled around the rosters and I didn't see any team with 2 baller quarterbacks.

I am confident this will work well and be fun. Trades should be allowed, but I think limiting AI trades to 2 is the way to go.

We should have Pablo do a draw for team picking order and decide who is NFC and who is AFC, then pick teams before the draft.

[LOCONUT]

Pablo Diablo, owner of the fire shirt.

[Beefy]

We don't need to do a draw to decide any of that. We're flipping Conferences as planned and we can just agree who is who. We've always worked through stuff like that.

Let's leave the trade/house rules discussion for now.

[Miotch]

Why wouldn't we draw? It would be fun, and it doesn't really matter what team you are since it's going to be a new roster anyways.

Plus, people have expressed desires to possibly flip groups. Torn may want to do the NFC again, and Pablo was saying he thinks he'd be better off with the Brits because of timeline. What would that mean for Grim then, and, subsequently, what would that mean for the shape of the conferences? I thought it worked rather well with the balance of last year, though I suppose that's not required.

Also stop decreeing things. We are having discussions. You aren't the boss.

[Beefy]

This was agreed a year ago. Stop trying to pick me up on every thing. It's so tedious. You don't like me, I get it.

If Pabs wants to swap divisions that's fine. If Torn wants to swap divisions that's fine. We're all adults and we can agree things without having to do a draw and have a set time period to HAVE DISCUSSIONS.

[LOCONUT]

When did you guys stop liking each other? :lol:

[Miotch]

Seriously what's up your ass? I don't dislike you, but people seem engaged in discussing this stuff. I know you love to have control over every situation, and it may feel like you're losing some of that with other people having good suggestions, but you will still be the commissioner and head boss/admin of the league. Don't worry. No one is trying to take that from you.

I suppose we could just close the thread all together until we start the league to prevent people from making suggestions.

Love you babs.

[Beefy]

That is literally the opposite of what I'm saying. Why would we do a draw instead of discussing things and agreeing to do something that we all want to do? We've got weeks to agree.

We've never needed to do a draw to agree teams in the past and no one has ever been forced to play in a Conference or with a team that wasn't their preference. If it ain't broke why try to fix it through getting Pablo to do a draw? :lol:

As for Commisioner and head boss/admin of the league who could care less about that? Anyone can set the league up. If Morrison has the game now he's more than welcome to do it (although it might IN MY OPINION be wise to wait for patches etc).

Anyone else is absolutely more than welcome to be the guy who screws kdestiny over on draft day annually :cool:

[LOCONUT]

I'm the new commish. I have decreed it.

[Beefy]

Ideally someone who isn't likely to come home one night and decide to delete the league because he doesn't like something unrelated that has happened on the forum.

[LOCONUT]

Don't detract from your moderator infighting by projecting on to me.

I don't want to be commish. At all. I would just do it if I wanted.

[Miotch]

That is literally the opposite of what I'm saying. Why would we do a draw instead of discussing things and agreeing to do something that we all want to do? We've got weeks to agree.

We've never needed to do a draw to agree teams in the past and no one has ever been forced to play in a Conference or with a team that wasn't their preference. If it ain't broke why try to fix it through getting Pablo to do a draw? :lol:

As for Commisioner and head boss/admin of the league who could care less about that? Anyone can set the league up. If Morrison has the game now he's more than welcome to do it (although it might IN MY OPINION be wise to wait for patches etc).

Anyone else is absolutely more than welcome to be the guy who screws kdestiny over on draft day annually :cool:

1) I think Pablo was happy to do the draw, based on a conversation in chat.
2) I think it might be fun to do it that way. An added bonus is that you have some, but not total, control over what team you are and who is in your division.
3) Teams will need to be agreed upon before the draft if it's going to be completely random.
and 4) A bit of order isn't the worst idea instead of people claiming teams legitimately 6 months ago. Torn wants the Cowboys. Well, what if Fro is a huge, giant, closeted Cowboys fan and wants to be them? Is he shit out of luck because Torn claimed them 6 months before the game even came out?

We don't HAVE to do it this way. I just think it makes some sense and it's fair. If GBF picks after me he can go to a different division if he likes. If he doesn't and I want to be in his division again, my choices are limited.

And for the love of god stop taking everything so fucking seriously in here. You get a lot of stick. Some of it might even actually be deserved. But the shit in here makes zero difference in anything and I certainly don't dislike you because of any of it. Just relax a bit. You say people need to roll with the punches a bit better. I certainly could at times, but mate, so could you.

Also GBF is right that we could use a west coast league co-comissioner. You are also right in that it probably shouldn't be him.

[Beefy]

You're right that Fro might come in and really want an NFC East team. But why not just try to agree it between ourselves before seeing if we need to go down the route of doing a draw?

I also think a draw could cause issues rather than resolve them - take the hypothetical situation you're speaking about. Torn & Morrison have been in a division before and love playing each other (like you and GBF want to). Morrison picks first because of a draw and takes the Eagles, Fro then picks the Cowboys. None of that would have needed to happen had we just tried to agree it between ourselves. If Fro wants the Cowboys he should have them and the lads could then take any other division if they want to be together.

I just feel like we're trying to make something needlessly complicated.

I'll take your other comments away with me.

[Beefy]

To be fair, we may need to play around with the Divisions as the 'Rest of World' side of things seems way down on the 'US' side of things currently, especially if Torn wants to switch over.

Currently based on who has posted in this thread it looks like:

US Conference
GBF
Pablo Diablo (switching?)
Honey_Badger
Miotch
Super Bowl Champion Morrison
CWE
kdestiny
Matthew
Fro

'Rest of World' Conference
Beefy
Torn (switching?)
MMH
Mikey Jones
BBF
Grimario

No word as yet from Alex or Hurley. Am I missing anyone else?

[Kdestiny]

If need be I could switch as well. My schedule ends up being better to play during the day which is evening for most of those in the rest of the world, so I'm willing to do that if it's needed.

As far as draw, it would be by name and then us choosing teams in that order or a draw for person with a draw for their team?

I really don't care either way. Just looking for clarification.

[Miotch]

O don't really understand the question.

[Beefy]

He means is the draw to agree order of picking a team within the agreed Conference or will Pabs pick names of posters out of one hat and names of teams for that poster out of a second hat?

EDIT - that's what he's asking. It seemed fairly clear to me that you meant the first one of those.

[Fro]

I don't have any input into the settings and draft since I've never played but obviously I want the Patriots. :cool:

Also I'm going to be truly terrible at this. Haven't played a single game of Madden since the '12 version I think.

[LOCONUT]

As long as we have a West Coast commission and I will be happy. I'm not going to be able to do it due to my leadership and time being too valuable.

[LOCONUT]

I don't have any input into the settings and draft since I've never played but obviously I want the Patriots. :cool:

Also I'm going to be truly terrible at this. Haven't played a single game of Madden since the '12 version I think.

I'm legitimately terrible as well and it's probably the funnest thing that I have going on in life outside of my family.

[LOCONUT]

I've nearly beat Morrison and Mikey and a few other real players but totally choked it away. I'm coming for redemption in Madden 18.

[LOCONUT]

If one of you dudes wants to get a game tonight I can go for sure.

[MMH]

I hate you all.

Except Fro. I have no solid opinion on Fro yet.

[Beefy]

He's a Patriots fan. What more do you need?

[Torn]

I can stay in the rest of the world, I was non committal over the whole thing. For playoff games I think it's easier for me to arrange playing against the UK lads in the morning my time and if Grim is back then that works there too.

Now we're doing the fantasy draft team choice doesn't really matter that much so having a draw is pointless, Beefy isn't wrong there.

[MMH]

He's a Patriots fan. What more do you need?

Oh good point.

I hate Fro more than anybody.

[LOCONUT]

Beefy is always wrong.

[Miotch]

I hate you all.

Except Fro. I have no solid opinion on Fro yet.

Stop trying to pick me up on everything. It's so tedious. You don't like me. I get it.

[Torn]

I hate you all.

Except Fro. I have no solid opinion on Fro yet.

How can you have gone into the NFL thread and read a post by Fro and NOT hate him?

[LOCONUT]

LOLZ

[MMH]

One thing I will say if we were doing a draw could we set it so that franchises can move at any time or whatever that setting is as I will be relocating whoever I get/am.

[Mikey_Jones]

As a Rajah Madden HoF first ballot member, I should be commissioner

I don't mind how we decide the teams since it'll all be random anyway

[LOCONUT]

I just want to see Pablos fire shirt doing a draw.

[Beefy]

One thing I will say if we were doing a draw could we set it so that franchises can move at any time or whatever that setting is as I will be relocating whoever I get/am.

That's what we did last year. It's a shame we can't move them before we start. You have to wait until the end of the first season.

[LOCONUT]

Beefy if you are sore with Mitch and I than at least make Morrison or Matthew a commish as they are always around late night US time.

[LOCONUT]

I mean a co commish or whatever. Not trying to oust beefy.

[MMH]

Wouldnt want conference balance? And wouldn't a random draw negate that? Like we could have 4 cpu in one division and 4 humans in another?

[LOCONUT]

Wouldnt want conference balance? And wouldn't a random draw negate that? Like we could have 4 cpu in one division and 4 humans in another?

Yeah not arguing at all. I just love the fire shirt.

[Miotch]

Wouldnt want conference balance? And wouldn't a random draw negate that? Like we could have 4 cpu in one division and 4 humans in another?

No we would set the conference roster first, and then the draw would determine the picking order within the conference. Hold on I'll do an example.

[Beefy]

Beefy if you are sore with Mitch and I than at least make Morrison or Matthew a commish as they are always around late night US time.

I'm not sore with either of you. We'll get it all to work fine.

[LOCONUT]

Maybe Pablo just draws picking order only and then we pick whatever team we want, within our assigned conference, in order.

[LOCONUT]

I'm not sore with either of you. We'll get it all to work fine.

Are you cross?

[Miotch]

US Conference
GBF
Honey_Badger
Miotch
Super Bowl Champion Morrison
CWE
kdestiny
Matthew
Fro

'Rest of World' Conference
Beefy
Torn (switching?)
MMH
Mikey Jones
BBF
Grimario
Pablo Diablo

So that's 7 in one and 8 in the other. Relatively even. Then Pabs just picks out of the hat and we get the order. You have to pick within your conference, but it would at least make the draw fair. If we wanted to trade kdestiny for Torn we could also do that.

[Beefy]

Maybe Pablo just draws picking order only and then we pick whatever team we want, within our assigned conference, in order.

Or we just say who we want and see if there are any issues?

Seem to me that either way we should agree Conferences and Divisions firstly anyway?

[LOCONUT]

US Conference
GBF
Honey_Badger
Miotch
Super Bowl Champion Morrison
CWE
kdestiny
Matthew
Fro

'Rest of World' Conference
Beefy
Torn (switching?)
MMH
Mikey Jones
BBF
Grimario
Pablo Diablo

So that's 7 in one and 8 in the other. Relatively even. Then Pabs just picks out of the hat and we get the order. You have to pick within your conference, but it would at least make the draw fair. If we wanted to trade kdestiny for Torn we could also do that.

Love it. Bring on the fucking fire shirt.

[LOCONUT]

Or we just say who we want and see if there are any issues?

Seem to me that either way we should agree Conferences and Divisions firstly anyway?

I'm cool with whatever you guys decide. I'm just pumped for this and a little pomp and circumstance never hurts.

[LOCONUT]

Also would be way down to do a league podcast if some of you are down to rotate appearances and talk league business with me. I'll probably have to create a thread in the Asylum for the league podcast. I'm not really into having my nerdiest feature available for public consumption. Or if Big BEEFY can make a thread for me that is invisible to unregistered users we can keep it in here.

[Beefy]

Hopefully we can get a few more people. I'd love it if we could get half the league as human players. Is there anywhere else on the boards it's worth mentioning it?

I think this thread (and the Clubs thread fwiw) should be in The Asylum. It's a social thread rather than a video game thread. We should have made a thread for the Super Bowl too. What a great way to attract more attention that game would have been.

[Miotch]

A podcast about a video game league. How riveting.

[Pablo Diablo]

Beefy a bunch of us talked during the super bowl about having me pick the names from a hat.

Sure. It doesn't really matter which team everyone gets since they'll all be ransomed. My thinking was along the lines of what Mitch had in mind. It will all just be for a little fun. In all likelihood we won't have many conflicts on who gets what team. But it could lead to people ducking divisions someone else is in or purposefully choosing divisions that someone else is in.

[Miotch]

I think this thread (and the Clubs thread fwiw) should be in The Asylum. It's a social thread rather than a video game thread. We should have made a thread for the Super Bowl too. What a great way to attract more attention that game would have been.

Nah I think it belongs here. It's definitely a VG thread.

As for other people reach out to Hurley and Alex. Maybe Cewsh wants back in.

[LOCONUT]

A podcast about a video game league. How riveting.

I've done this before for fantasy leagues and it's always been pretty well received. No one would listen except our league crew but would still be pretty fun for me at least. You dont need to particpate you cranky old girl.

[Beefy]

Beefy a bunch of us talked during the super bowl about having me pick the names from a hat.

Sure. It doesn't really matter which team everyone gets since they'll all be ransomed. My thinking was along the lines of what Mitch had in mind. It will all just be for a little fun. In all likelihood we won't have many conflicts on who gets what team. But it could lead to people ducking divisions someone else is in or purposefully choosing divisions that someone else is in.

I'm not seeing the fun in either of those things :dunno:

I'm just really struggling with the concept of putting some structure around something that should be easy (and has been easy for two years) for a bunch of adults to agree. if I'm in the minority on that then whatever.

[LOCONUT]

Beefy, I think it's more of a "fun" thing than a needed thing. Why do you hate fun?

[LOCONUT]

If we want Pabs to do a video we should have it. It's certainly not going to make anything worse.

[Beefy]

I don't get the fun in telling people when they can and can't pick. I'm all for people having the freedom to do what they want.

If you want a video why don't we chose conferences we want to be in and then Pabs draws the teams within those conferences?

[Kdestiny]

Also would be way down to do a league podcast if some of you are down to rotate appearances and talk league business with me. I'll probably have to create a thread in the Asylum for the league podcast. I'm not really into having my nerdiest feature available for public consumption. Or if Big BEEFY can make a thread for me that is invisible to unregistered users we can keep it in here.

I would be down. I love that shit

[LOCONUT]

I don't get the fun in telling people when they can and can't pick. I'm all for people having the freedom to do what they want.

If you want a video why don't we chose conferences we want to be in and then Pabs draws the teams within those conferences?

Perfect solution.

[Mikey_Jones]

A league podcast is a great idea as well

[Miotch]

I've done this before for fantasy leagues and it's always been pretty well received. No one would listen except our league crew but would still be pretty fun for me at least. You dont need to particpate you cranky old girl.

Yes. I know. I was there next to you. I just think this is a bit different, since, you know, it's a video game.

[Miotch]

I don't get the fun in telling people when they can and can't pick. I'm all for people having the freedom to do what they want.

If you want a video why don't we chose conferences we want to be in and then Pabs draws the teams within those conferences?

The only thing I'd say about that is there's a chance that 4 teams end up in the same division, causing complete unbalance.

I suppose it could happen the other way too, though I don't think anyone would purposely do it given how much more difficult it would be to make the playoffs.

[Fro]

How can you have gone into the NFL thread and read a post by Fro and NOT hate him?

I still sometimes read the sequence of posts in there from this year's Super Bowl for a smile.

[Torn]

See MMH?

[Torn]

Feel free to do a pointless random draw if you want because it's just so bloody fun but I'm picking whichever team I want #TEAMBEEFY

[Torn]

Remember that time we ran three leagues in a row across three games with no issues over picking teams and we just decided amongst ourselves to keep it fair?

[MMH]

See MMH?

Fro is a....

No, not yet...

[LOCONUT]

Yes. I know. I was there next to you. I just think this is a bit different, since, you know, it's a video game.

Instead of a fantasy sports League with less people?

[Pablo Diablo]

Fine. No drawing. The fire shirt stays away.

[Pablo Diablo]

I do think I should be with the rest of the world conference though whichever one we decide to be in.

[Miotch]

Torn and Beefy want chaos. Cunts.

[Miotch]

I'm claiming the Cowboys. Fuck Torn.

[Torn]

I'm in the AFC mate

[Honey_Badger]

Do we know what division will align with the US division on the game? AFC or NFC?

[Miotch]

I'm in the AFC mate

We had talked about you switching. You see? Without order there is CHAOS.

[Miotch]

Do we know what division will align with the US division on the game? AFC or NFC?

The US side will be NFC this year.

[Torn]

We had talked about you switching. You see? Without order there is CHAOS.

I do what I want not what you want

I'm in the AFC

Division with Mikey

[Mikey_Jones]

Agreed. I'll be the Ravens

[Fro]

If I'm NFC I'd like the Falcons

[LOCONUT]

I'll take Seahawks.

Are the coaches randomly assigned as well or is there no way to do that?

[Honey_Badger]

NFC, huh. Are the Cardinals available?

[Kdestiny]

I'd like to be Da Bears

[Torn]

Agreed. I'll be the Ravens

Browns it is!

[Miotch]

I'll take Seahawks.

Are the coaches randomly assigned as well or is there no way to do that?

I think everyone should have to create a new head coach, personally, otherwise just keep the coach that comes with the team?

Also, do you want me in your division or not?

[Beefy]

I'm Raiders

[Pablo Diablo]

I guess I'll be the Dolphins

[Miotch]

I have decided that the NFC East will be my home and I will compete with Morrison year in and year out.

I'll take Dallas.

In order to be the champ you have to beat the champ.

[Grimario]

For playoff games


|Grim

:rofl:

[Grimario]

Jets for me. Then I am going to move them to Newcastle and call them the Newcastle Jets.

[LOCONUT]

Is there a way to have pabs draw the draft position order at least?

I would say we put every team, including AI, into a drawing for drafting order...

[Grimario]

Can't you just add Pabs on snapchat or something and ask him to send you videos of the shirt?

[Miotch]

Is there a way to have pabs draw the draft position order at least?

I would say we put every team, including AI, into a drawing for drafting order...

Draft order doesn't matter. Just sim the thing. It's totally random.

[Miotch]

Can't you just add Pabs on snapchat or something and ask him to send you videos of the shirt?

10 seconds of Pabs wearing the shirt and nothing else.

[LOCONUT]

I saw Tiger Woods leaked nudes today. Pretty large penis.

[Fro]

Draft order doesn't matter. Just sim the thing. It's totally random.

I don't understand how this works, do we not draft our own players?

[CWE]

I'll take any team but New York teams and Dallas. I don't care otherwise. So whatever division works for everyone else to balance right.

Long shot mode sucks by the way. Wasted all night last night trying it.

[Kdestiny]

I don't understand how this works, do we not draft our own players?

We are doing an auto fantasy draft

[Cewsh]

Nah I think it belongs here. It's definitely a VG thread.

As for other people reach out to Hurley and Alex. Maybe Cewsh wants back in.

Nah, i'm good. My schedule is too chaotic to be depended on to get the games played.

I'd love to be part of it in some way though. Maybe guest on the podcast. We should do commentary on the games. :lol:

[Pablo Diablo]

We are doing an auto fantasy draft

And the reason for that is because trying to get us all lined up to do a full proper fantasy draft would be basically impossible.

[Kdestiny]

And the reason for that is because trying to get us all lined up to do a full proper fantasy draft would be basically impossible.

Although that would be epic

[Pablo Diablo]

54 rounds would be ridiculous.

That's one way we can do a thing with a video.

Do a live stream of the first handful of rounds. It should go by pretty quickly since there's no decisions to be made. Don't know how to get my video on my twitch stream though...

[Pablo Diablo]

Actually no, I think the surprise of getting our teams only in the finished product is better.

[Kdestiny]

No way would I want to do the whole thing either. Maybe 15 rounds

[CWE]

No way would I want to do the whole thing either. Maybe 15 rounds

25. That's every starter on offense and defense, a back up qb, a back-up hb and 1 extra (wr or cb).

[Fro]

I was hoping I could just play with the Pats real roster :dunno:

[Matthew]

the icons for the tackle mini-game are very small. i dont know if you can change that, but it kinda sucks

[Grimario]

I was hoping I could just play with the Pats real roster :dunno:

You can do that in an offline CFM, just like I will do with the shitty 49ers :happysad:

Just got my "item has been shipped" notice... apparently express delivery means that it will get here on Monday. Not particularly expressy.

[LOCONUT]

I don't even believe in shipping to south of the Equator.

[Grimario]

I don't even believe in shipping to south of the Equator.

It's coming from New Zealand. It's a bit daft that the cheapest option for me is to ship from there than it is to go into a shop here.

[Morrison]

I don't understand how this works, do we not draft our own players?


I was hoping I could just play with the Pats real roster :dunno:

unless it was a 'lol super bowl' joke, you picked the falcons earlier. why would you be hoping you could play with the pats real roster?

unfortunately for the new blood, this league has been going for three versions of madden now, with basically the same core of 8 people or so each year, with a few new names popping up each year. up until now we all just picked teams and went with default rosters, but this year it's going to be a change of approach, for a number of different reasons, not least of which is to try something new. we've had issues in the past of user teams becoming a bit ridiculous by the third season thanks to lop-sided trading with AI teams and stat progression. we're attempting to put a bit more structure into place, and the fantasy draft helps with leveling the playing field amongst users and the AI while also just being a fun twist on the league set-up. i was excited for this game and was hoping to snag the eagles again as my team thanks to this past off-season, cause i likely won't play much reg teams matches with them otherwise, but this fantasy auto draft of the entire league intrigues me much more

[MMH]

We should be able to re-create one rookie from last season for our teams...

God I miss Dario already.

[Morrison]

I have decided that the NFC East will be my home and I will compete with Morrison year in and year out.

I'll take Dallas.

In order to be the champ you have to beat the champ.

OH SNAP.

i'll restate my intention of taking control of the soon to be NFC east champion eagles, for sake of thread management.


Is there a way to have pabs draw the draft position order at least?

I would say we put every team, including AI, into a drawing for drafting order...


Draft order doesn't matter. Just sim the thing. It's totally random.

beyond it not mattering, i don't think the commish has the power to set the draft order for a fantasy draft. might be wrong, of course. didn't do a ton of looking around on the draft screen.


I'll take any team but New York teams and Dallas. I don't care otherwise. So whatever division works for everyone else to balance right.

Long shot mode sucks by the way. Wasted all night last night trying it.

i figure once we figure out what division needs the extra body we'll just have you pick one of the three remaining teams. auto'd rosters means it doesn't really matter(outside of possible weather ramifications for the stadium you're in), but might as well give you the choice.


Nah, i'm good. My schedule is too chaotic to be depended on to get the games played.

I'd love to be part of it in some way though. Maybe guest on the podcast. We should do commentary on the games. :lol:

it would be great if we could set up a party chat with the two users playing and two others for commentary, but all the streams have a certain amount of delay on them, so live commentary would be useless.


25. That's every starter on offense and defense, a back up qb, a back-up hb and 1 extra (wr or cb).

this would obviously be the set-up to do, but 25 rounds with all members would be impossible to coordinate and without all members present it would be wildly unfair, which defeats the purpose. if beefy wanted to stream the first 25 rounds of the auto draft for fun, that'd work, but i for one want to have the excitement/utter disappointment of loading up and checking out my roster for the first time, though the fun of seeing big names come off the board would make for a fun stream chat.

[Pablo Diablo]

We should be able to re-create one rookie from last season for our teams...

God I miss Dario already.

Fuller was technically a rookie when we started.

[Honey_Badger]

What if we could get everyone together for at least the first 22 rounds then simulate the rest? That's basically your starting lineups. Would this even be possible?

[Pablo Diablo]

Nope.

When we do the regular draft, if we get even 8 of us there for the first 4 rounds it's a good showing.

We just have too many different time zones.

[Beefy]

We've never managed to get everyone together for our annual draft and now we're looking at having more people making it even less likely. We've posters in five countries and three continents to try to sync up for maybe three hours to run 20-odd rounds.

If even one person misses out then they'd potentially be massively disadvantaged.

The only way we could do it is say that anyone who couldn't make it could pick their team once the rosters are set.

If you want to throw out a couple of dates and see if it happens to miraculously align then go for it. I'd much prefer to pick my team and the strategy of that would be hugely enjoyable, IMO.

[Beefy]

We might be able to run it RFF-style over the course of a day. Maybe. We could play around with it and see if that could work.

EDIT - I think there might be a way but it would be really messy.

[Beefy]

Ahh good ole' trading

https://www.reddit.com/r/Madden/comments/6v6uwc/pretty_big_glitch_in_madden_18_franchise/

[Pablo Diablo]

I was thinking of RFF style drafting, but the issue then is the AI teams.

If someone can think of a good solution to that then we could always create custom rosters and use those, but that'd be a huge pain in the ass.

[Beefy]

The AI teams are easy as a Commissioner just advances through those and posts here to say who was taken. The tricky things would be drafting the players for the human teams. That would work if it's possible to control multiple teams in CFM. I'm not sure if it is or not.

What I am sure about is that you can't pause the draft long-term so you'd need someone to have their PS4 on running the whole thing throughout so we're talking one day max so you'd still need everyone to be available on the same day to get it to work. It takes us four or five days to run a seven or eight round RFF draft. I think if we did go that route we would need to cap it at five players. Get your franchise guys and let the AI draft the rest. 20-25 rounds that way just wouldn't be feasible.

I'll play around with it once I've got the game if no one else tries before then. We've plenty of time to fully explore all options. It might be that people would prefer the 'fun' ;) of just having completely random teams.

[Pablo Diablo]

I'm starting to think fully random would be the best choice.

Or we can just go back to plain ol choose a team and play with their regular roster. But I was looking forward to something a little different.

[Beefy]

We've a couple of weeks before we have to make any final decisions. I'm happy with whatever people want to do.

[Honey_Badger]

Question... do we need PlayStation Plus to play in the league?

[Beefy]

Yep, you need Plus to play anything online unfortunately.

[Matthew]

i think there are two other people trying to get into my division (which i called rams before anyone else). so if that is to go down, please put me in a division with just another dude. i would prefer 2 in each.

[MMH]

Manual drafting could also lead to overstacked teams with "cheat" players I reckon.

Shame as it would be fun....

[Torn]

Watching back Morri's stream from the other day I'm all for the random drafts. Teams all looked fairly balanced when he went through, every team had some quite large flaws which was good to see.

An RFF style pre draft for choosing say 5 players I wouldn't be opposed to if people did want to have some input into it all.

The way this draft works would encourage trading between users as the teams will probably end up reasonably unbalanced. I still would be in preference of just an outright ban on CPU trading and trade with each other. A trade limit still would just result in shitty trades.

TWO THINGS I thought about watching the stream:

Salary cap implications. This could fuck people when moving players around and I don't know what the deal is with the CPU picking based on this. Like if they draft you an ageing guy on a massive contract does that fuck your other picks. Might add an extra reason for us to manually select a few players at least.

Pre-existing injuries should be turned off (we always do this anyway to be fair) as the CPU will draft these injured guys (like Ryan Tannehill)

[Miotch]

test

[Miotch]

Weird. I posted something and it disappeared completely.

Anyways. The gist was that I would prefer it be all random. The excitement of seeing your team for the first time is real, and knowing who your 5 best players are takes something away from that in my mind. Plus it would be a nightmare for Beefy or whoever is the commish I think.

In regards to trades I still think a limited number is the way to go. Yes, lopsided trades are possible, but you almost have to TRY to make it happen. We can pseudo police ourselves, and it doesn't cut off half the player pool. It's also not free reign to do whatever you want, and you should not be able to include future draft picks. In fact I wouldn't be opposed to not including draft picks during in season trades at all. I think that would level things a bit, and let's remember the trade deadline is week 6.

[Kdestiny]

It's week 8 though isn't it?

[Miotch]

Oh, maybe? I guess I thought it was week 6 in real life.

[Matthew]

who would want to do some 3v3 squads soon (tonight)

[Honey_Badger]

Preordered the standard edition this morning to ensure Friday delivery.

Just signed up for the 3 month PLUS package.

I'm ready to go!!

[Pablo Diablo]

who would want to do some 3v3 squads soon (tonight)

Do I have to pay for MUT packs?

I heard there is no regular draft champs anymore.

[Miotch]

There is, it's just called MUT Squads I think.

[LOCONUT]

They're called MUT drafts. I looked at it for 5 minutes last night and couldn't figure it out so I just played a regular game online and couldn't figure that out either so I just played against the computer for 5 minutes. The game looks beautiful but I have perfect vision and the in game tips for the new moves are really hard to see. They're tiny.

[LOCONUT]

Hopefully I can actually make time to play a little bit today. If I can figure out the three-on-three thing Matthew I'm way down.

[LOCONUT]

I believe I streamed and saved the few minutes I played last night if anybody wants to see how the new game looks and hasn't had a chance yet.

[Matthew]

Do I have to pay for MUT packs?

I heard there is no regular draft champs anymore.
you don't HAVE to pay. i mean, MUT is needed, but if your guys are shit, then they won't start anyway over the better players the other two people have.

[LOCONUT]

My Stream is 32 minutes but you can start at the 20-minute Mark if you want to see the game play.

[Miotch]

you don't HAVE to pay. i mean, MUT is needed, but if your guys are shit, then they won't start anyway over the better players the other two people have.

Can't you just get on that MUT grind?

I dud the MUT thing last year on xbox before I got my PS4 and joined the league, so by the time I did I couldn't be fucking bothered to build a team again. Sort of looking forward to doing it this year on PS4 so I can beat you in MUT.

[Miotch]

Also, for clarity sake here's where the divisions stand from my memory alone. I'm not going back through the thread to confirm things, so change or add to this as is fit.

NFC (North America)

East

Cowboys (Miotch)
Eagles (Morrison)
Giants
Redskins

North

Bears (kdestiny)
Lions (CWE)
Packers
Vikings

West

Seahawks (GBF)
Cardinals
49ers
Rams (Matthew?)

South

Falcons (Fro)
Buccs (Honey Badger)
Saints
Panthers


AFC (Rest of World and Pablo)

East

Dolphins (Pablo)
Patriots
Jets (Grim)
Bills

North

Ravens (Mikey)
Bengals
Browns (Torn)
Steelers

West

Broncos
Chargers
Chiefs
Raiders (Beefy)

South

Texans
Colts
Jags
Titans (MMH)

[Morrison]

torn said he's taking the browns.

[LOCONUT]

Matthew, you need to move North or South or I will. We don't need 3 of us in 1 division.

[MMH]

Ill have the Titans.

[Honey_Badger]

Matthew, you need to move North or South or I will. We don't need 3 of us in 1 division.

I'll move to the Bucs in the South.

[Matthew]

i love MUT, and am already on the grind. preorder really came through (moreso for morrison) with the G.O.A.T. edition deion sanders, and elite obj. the 12 extra packs conjured up an elite DT as well (morrison got a bunch of elite dudes in his, piece of shit). got a leonard fournette from last year (that upgrades to whatever his best card is at any time this year)

[LOCONUT]

I'll move to the Bucs in the South.

:yes:

[Morrison]

Do I have to pay for MUT packs?

I heard there is no regular draft champs anymore.

no paying necessary. obviously spending money is the best way to build a team in that mode, since grinding out solo challenges and H2H games can take awhile. with the co-op play, each of the three people become the captain of the three 'sections' of the team. so one person is the offensive guy, so his MUT offense is used. defensive guy has his defensive players used. the third player provides the head coach, playbook and uniforms. so that third player doesn't need to have a good team to play the mode. i think the offensive captain defaults to being the QB when on offense. not sure if that can be changed out.

[Morrison]

i love MUT, and am already on the grind. preorder really came through (moreso for morrison) with the G.O.A.T. edition deion sanders, and elite obj. the 12 extra packs conjured up an elite DT as well (morrison got a bunch of elite dudes in his, piece of shit). got a leonard fournette from last year (that upgrades to whatever his best card is at any time this year)

to go along with this, if you have amazon prime and have connected your amazon account to your twitch account to get twitch prime, they're going to be giving out legends every week for the next couple of months through the twitch prime loot thing they do. first one up is an 85 OVR reggie white and five collectibles that you can add to a set to upgrade him to a 90 OVR.

[Pablo Diablo]

How do you use the collectibles? I've started it up trying to understand this whole system. Never done UT before

[Mikey_Jones]

Yeah, I'll be the Ravens


I'll move to the Bucs in the South.

They've got a great history. No pressure

[Miotch]

I'll move to the Bucs in the South.

Probably a good fit, you vs. Fro, both first timers for the division.

[Miotch]

How do you use the collectibles? I've started it up trying to understand this whole system. Never done UT before

There should be a place to put them into sets which, once completed, will give you players/cards.

[Morrison]

also, i'm with mitch on just having random teams. trying to do 25 rounds is insane, i won't be giving up the kinda chunk of time that would be needed on one of my days off, especially when my days off are the only days where my wife and i have matching schedules and can actually do things. even if we just do first five rounds or so just to draft the superstar core of the team, i feel like it's not worth the hassle for the little bit of 'personalization' we get out of it. i'd much rather see how people deal with the randomized teams. one of the things i got a kick out of was in one of the fantasy drafts i did that first night, tom brady was drafted to the giants, so beefy would've had to use him, which i would've found funny, especially when he ups and retires after the first season.

[Morrison]

Yeah, I'll be the Ravens



They've got a great history. No pressure
indeed. they've a great history of losing super bowls. though i'm sure it's just a thrill to be there in the first place...


How do you use the collectibles? I've started it up trying to understand this whole system. Never done UT before


There should be a place to put them into sets which, once completed, will give you players/cards.

at the ass end of madden 16 i started getting into MUT, and really got into it last game. the whole thing is a bit confusing at first, or at least it was for me. just playing around in the menus and watching youtube vids helped.

under your roster should be a tab for 'sets.' these are sets where you can enter random or specific player cards and collectible cards in order to upgrade a card already in your possession or receive a brand new card entirely. somewhere in that sets menu should be a tab for that twitch prime reggie white. you click into it and place the collectible cards into that set and it'll upgrade the base card.

[Miotch]

So we need teams from CWE (should go NFC North), MMH, BBF, and Grim? (I'm also assuming Alex will be in.)

[Miotch]

also, i'm with mitch on just having random teams. trying to do 25 rounds is insane, i won't be giving up the kinda chunk of time that would be needed on one of my days off, especially when my days off are the only days where my wife and i have matching schedules and can actually do things. even if we just do first five rounds or so just to draft the superstar core of the team, i feel like it's not worth the hassle for the little bit of 'personalization' we get out of it. i'd much rather see how people deal with the randomized teams. one of the things i got a kick out of was in one of the fantasy drafts i did that first night, tom brady was drafted to the giants, so beefy would've had to use him, which i would've found funny, especially when he ups and retires after the first season.

I assume if one of us gets Brady we will be able to trade him to Fro for a king's ransom.

[Pablo Diablo]

MMH is going Titans.

[Miotch]

So if Alex does indeed play there will be 8 teams in each conference to start, which is pretty great. Playoff spots will need to be earned.

[Morrison]

I assume if one of us gets Brady we will be able to trade him to Fro for a king's ransom.

this i hadn't even thought of. another part of the fun will be taking the user players favorite players and using them as possible bargaining chips. everybody just getting a potential pick of some of their favorite players in a draft is just meh to me.

[Grimario]

Jets for me.

[CWE]

Lions til I move the fuck away from Detroit.

[CWE]

What setting do we play on so I can practice after work? All pro or all madden?

[Pablo Diablo]

All pro is typically the base we play out of.

We might make slight adjustments to the sliders here and there.

[Morrison]

mother fuck a slider.

[Torn]

this i hadn't even thought of. another part of the fun will be taking the user players favorite players and using them as possible bargaining chips. everybody just getting a potential pick of some of their favorite players in a draft is just meh to me.

Yeah agreed with you now I think about it and listened to your reasons. On board with full random.

Still intrigued about the salary cap implications of all of this but AS WE WELL KNOW Beefy can clear cap penalties if it is a serious blocking issue to sensible user trades

[Torn]

FUCK SLIDERS

[Miotch]

Yeah agreed with you now I think about it and listened to your reasons. On board with full random.

Still intrigued about the salary cap implications of all of this but AS WE WELL KNOW Beefy can clear cap penalties if it is a serious blocking issue to sensible user trades

I'm assuming with a random roster no one will have a cap penalty to start, but if for some reason we do I would suggest all cap penalties be cleared for all teams.

[Torn]

I don't mean cap penalties in the start, I mean I don't know how it will work with penalties when you trade pre existing contracts as the CPU could randomly saddle you with 25 contracts with giant singing bonuses that makes it impossible to move/cut. Does that even apply here? What even is the contractual situation as I assume they inherit existing deals, maybe they get new ones based on draft position. Morrison could you take a look at the salaries screen?

[Morrison]

i deleted out the leagues i created. i'll create a new one, auto draft and check it out.

[Grimario]

i deleted out the leagues i created. i'll create a new one, auto draft and check it out.

Last year it was just like a draft, contract based on draft position. Everyone got reset.

[Morrison]

Last year it was just like a draft, contract based on draft position. Everyone got reset.

i figure this is the answer.

[Pablo Diablo]

I'm going to stream a random fantasy draft now

https://www.twitch.tv/pabloeldiablos

[Morrison]

i just did one. every team has the same contracts, with i think your first round pick getting a $60mil contract, round two a $50, round three a $40, with further breakdowns the lower you go. there's a few discrepancies as some teams don't have kickers, but every hovers around $110-113mil in salaries.

first five rounds are signed to 5 year deals, next ten rounds to 4 year deals, next 11 rounds to 3 year deals, etc. same signing bonuses for every team depending on what round.

[Pablo Diablo]

Can confirm, same thing with mine.

[Miotch]

What are the contract lengths?

[Morrison]

What are the contract lengths?

just edited my post with contract lengths.

[Morrison]

so, all the best players in the game, it seems, will likely never hit free agency during our play time.

[Miotch]

Which is a bummer.

[Pablo Diablo]

So we shouldn't really have any concerns with the cap. But I think then we do need to allow AI trades to allow our teams to switch up more often.

[Miotch]

Such a bummer that I'm now asking if it's worth doing the fantasy draft? So torn.

[Morrison]

Such a bummer that I'm now asking if it's worth doing the fantasy draft? So torn.

it makes the off-season draft mean that much more, at least.