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son_of_foley
September 4th, 2016, 4:06 PM
Let's do it right.

I've just realised how hard out group is.

We've not been at this 2nd half yet. Hard to see us getting much at the minute

RFF Champ
September 4th, 2016, 4:23 PM
Josh Magennis - one man attack

RFF Champ
September 4th, 2016, 4:25 PM
This game has had a higher than average number of fifa style desperate slide tackles that were never going to get the ball or attacker.

son_of_foley
September 4th, 2016, 4:33 PM
Conor mclaughlin my motm

RFF Champ
September 4th, 2016, 4:36 PM
Jonny Evans by a mile imo

son_of_foley
September 4th, 2016, 4:36 PM
Think that's a great result for us. Not a great second half as in the first we carried some threat

son_of_foley
September 4th, 2016, 4:38 PM
Jonny Evans by a mile imo

He was brilliant as was Stevie but though mcLaughlin was at the centre of a lot of the good stuff in 1st half.

Norwood was told to take it easy second half you would imagine and as such didn't do much

Andy
September 4th, 2016, 5:30 PM
Only Malta but encouraging for Scotland, attacking wise anyway. Concerning how awful the centre back options are but lots of different types of attackers in the squad and Snodgrass is looking good. Hopefully he can stay injury free for a long while. Ritchie did well too.

Peter Griffin
September 4th, 2016, 5:37 PM
So you are Scottish this week?

Andy
September 4th, 2016, 5:42 PM
What was I last week?

Peter Griffin
September 4th, 2016, 5:49 PM
English? It's hard to keep up. I mean you 'support' Arsenal sooooo.

MikeHunt
September 4th, 2016, 10:15 PM
Nope. Andes been excommunicated for sleeping with the enemy far too often. You can keep him.

RFF Champ
September 5th, 2016, 4:07 PM
Bale is stupidly good.

RFF Champ
September 5th, 2016, 4:24 PM
You've got to be especially bad at defending corners to give Daryl Murphy a free run at a corner.

RFF Champ
October 9th, 2016, 1:53 PM
Wales have made a real meal out of that.

MikeHunt
October 11th, 2016, 1:43 PM
Steven Fletcher starts i give up...

The Rosk
October 11th, 2016, 1:46 PM
It's actually farcical that Leigh Griffiths doesn't start for Scotland.

RFF Champ
October 11th, 2016, 1:46 PM
No Anya in a game that will probably need effective counter attacks.

MikeHunt
October 11th, 2016, 1:54 PM
strachen isnt interested at all. cunt.

MikeHunt
October 11th, 2016, 1:55 PM
im actaully thinking about not watching. i dont think i can deal with it. i've never said that in my whole life.

Badger
October 11th, 2016, 3:37 PM
Unsurprisingly garbage first half. That barge well should've been picked up though.

wardy
October 11th, 2016, 3:39 PM
I know we're losing but Slovakia are fucking awful MMH I'm sorry.

Badger
October 11th, 2016, 3:59 PM
Not as awful as we are.

MMH
October 11th, 2016, 4:02 PM
I know we're losing but Slovakia are fucking awful MMH I'm sorry.

I have never said they were good!

Just said they are no worse than England. Because they aint.

Speaking of bad teams its mad just how far Norway have fell. 1-1 at home against San Marino after 60 minutes and Norways goal was an own goal.

MikeHunt
October 11th, 2016, 4:07 PM
i couldn't bring myself to watch it. sounds horrible. I'm not a happy chappy. At least England are shit as well.

RFF Champ
October 11th, 2016, 4:58 PM
I have never said they were good!

Just said they are no worse than England. Because they aint.

Speaking of bad teams its mad just how far Norway have fell. 1-1 at home against San Marino after 60 minutes and Norways goal was an own goal.

Faroe Islands are the new hype team.

El Capitano Gatisto
October 11th, 2016, 6:41 PM
Surely Strachan can't keep his job. He has fucked qualification already in a fairly generous group.

son_of_foley
November 12th, 2016, 6:04 AM
Great first half. Not as great second. I think the away game will be tough. They have improved a bit over the last few years or at least they showed that in the 2nd half. In the first they could not live with the pressure and kept giving the ball away sloppily.

We were excellent first half. Genuinely bullied them and Jonny Evans was absolutely amazing. I honestly believe we have the best CB pairing out of all the home nations.

son_of_foley
March 27th, 2017, 4:10 AM
Stevie Davis was nothing short of amazing last night.

Absolutely runs the game these days and does so a lot further up the pitch. His assist was blinding.

What a man. What a captain.

wardy
March 27th, 2017, 4:57 AM
That was our best performance under Strachan. Too bad it's almost certainly too late.

son_of_foley
March 27th, 2017, 5:28 AM
There's a solid squad there. Has he progressed them at all do you think he deserves more time?

wardy
March 27th, 2017, 5:46 AM
He probably should be gone already but last night was encouraging. I'd sack him the second it becomes impossible to qualify.

son_of_foley
March 27th, 2017, 5:57 AM
Any preference on a successor?

I just hope Michael stays for this campaign as I think we can qualify.

He's now at the stage that he will get premiership offers and it's hard to be anything other than delighted for him as he's a lovely man

wardy
March 27th, 2017, 6:03 AM
He's done a fantastic job. Your mob and the good Ireland have done well with managers in recent years while none of ours seem to make a blind bit of difference. I'd have Walter Smith back in a heartbeat but other than that I don't have a clue. There certainly isn't another Scottish manager I'd like except maybe Moyes.

son_of_foley
March 27th, 2017, 6:23 AM
Just think now that Martin O'Neill has cut his teeth he might even get the gig with us in a few years.

Before the magnificent Brendan rides in trailing behind him his Champions League Medals and takes us to win the world cup

son_of_foley
June 9th, 2017, 4:38 PM
What a hit by toivanen

Simon
June 9th, 2017, 4:53 PM
And that in a nutshell is why no elite club will ever want Lloris. Not sure I've never seen a top goalkeeper as bad with his feet as Lloris. Might seem like a freak goal but he makes similar mistakes to that most weeks.

wardy
June 10th, 2017, 11:56 AM
Lets do this you shower of English bastards. :yes:

Simon
June 10th, 2017, 12:50 PM
Brown is such a fake hard man. Shaving your head and throwing in a reducer early on doesn't make you hard you little smackhead. I hope Dier hits him so hard he turns to dust.

wardy
June 10th, 2017, 1:08 PM
What would make him a real hard man?

Badger
June 10th, 2017, 1:32 PM
Gordon! :nono:

Badger
June 10th, 2017, 1:48 PM
GRIFFITHS!!!! :hyper:

wardy
June 10th, 2017, 1:49 PM
The fucking pub downstairs cheered about 2 minutes before it went in on my stream.

Badger
June 10th, 2017, 1:50 PM
Yadafafsgafeseddgaaagtass

wardy
June 10th, 2017, 1:51 PM
And again.

JP
June 10th, 2017, 1:51 PM
Out of this world.

wardy
June 10th, 2017, 1:55 PM
Craig Gordon is shite.

Badger
June 10th, 2017, 1:55 PM
Dagnabbit.

Simon
June 10th, 2017, 2:47 PM
Hahahaha

son_of_foley
June 10th, 2017, 3:01 PM
We are the best team in the world

wardy
June 10th, 2017, 3:29 PM
England are pretty fucking dire. Lithuania played better at Hampden.

son_of_foley
June 10th, 2017, 4:01 PM
Hoping Norway and Czech ends in a draw

Peter Griffin
June 10th, 2017, 4:24 PM
England are pretty fucking dire. Lithuania played better at Hampden.

:lol:

Peter Griffin
June 10th, 2017, 4:25 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/10/19/41502E3F00000578-4591530-image-a-180_1497117695410.jpg

wardy
June 10th, 2017, 4:51 PM
It's true though.

Judas Iscariot
June 10th, 2017, 6:30 PM
How is it possible that England has such a destination league but sucks so bad?

wardy
June 10th, 2017, 6:46 PM
Shitloads of expensive foreign imports.

JP
June 10th, 2017, 6:51 PM
Shot coaching at kids level.

RFF Champ
June 11th, 2017, 2:58 AM
Hoping Norway and Czech ends in a draw

Worked out nicely. I'm​ surprised just how bad Norway are right now. They've only beaten San Marino in the past year.

son_of_foley
June 11th, 2017, 4:51 AM
Worked out nicely. I'm​ surprised just how bad Norway are right now. They've only beaten San Marino in the past year.

Think they might be turning the corner a little now which is the only reason I didn't just want them to win. Changed manager a few games ago I think just before playing us and are going back to their 'traditional' style

son_of_foley
June 11th, 2017, 7:54 AM
Shot coaching at kids level.

Just don't think that's true anymore mate. It's at least partially down to what happens when they are 20/21 and get stuck playing reserve football for too long on too much money

RFF Champ
June 11th, 2017, 12:00 PM
Roy Keane's trim seems well out of character.

Peter Griffin
June 11th, 2017, 12:28 PM
It's true though.

I just hope Chrissy Martin wins us loads of free kicks next year :)

Simon
June 11th, 2017, 12:42 PM
Some goal from Austria.

son_of_foley
June 11th, 2017, 5:41 PM
Good highlights here on ITV.

Adverts tell us screwfix sponsor ITV's coverage of English Football..ok thanks guys fuck the rest of us I guess.

Then you have Craig Bellamy say how good it was Austria and ROI drew a minute before Jaqui Oatley says ok after the break we will see if Martin O'Neill's side can beat Austria... I have a feeling they might not do it.

JP
June 11th, 2017, 7:06 PM
Just don't think that's true anymore mate. It's at least partially down to what happens when they are 20/21 and get stuck playing reserve football for too long on too much money

Nah mate, our shot coaching is awful, couldn't hit barn door.

Fucking autocorrect.

Fair point.

son_of_foley
June 12th, 2017, 3:28 AM
England won the Toulon at the weekend as well with what I believe was an under-19 or under-18 team as the under-20's and 21's are both otherwise engaged.

Quite impressive.

I think they will do well in the Euros as well. Will Hughes to lead them to glory

Peter Griffin
June 12th, 2017, 4:00 AM
I have seen hughesy as leaving for 4million in some papers. I will go full pg if this happens especially given the inflated fees these days.

Slare
June 12th, 2017, 6:58 AM
I was at Hampden on Saturday.

The second goal was the biggest eruption I've ever seen at a football game. Bigger than Celtic/Barca, bigger than Rogic at Hampden. The biggest I've ever ever seen and the highest high I have ever experienced at football.

Was a great 3 minutes.

son_of_foley
June 12th, 2017, 9:24 AM
If Kyle Lafferty goes to Qarabag I can sign him for RFF right?

silence is acceptance

son_of_foley
June 12th, 2017, 6:16 PM
That Insigne goal tho...
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12022/10912977/watch-lorenzo-insignes-super-strike-against-liechtenstein

Grimario
August 29th, 2017, 7:52 PM
Some lovely goals in the WC qualifier between UAE and Saudi Arabia overnight, second one in particular. Almost Zlatanesque.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDjLWgsmRDc

RFF Champ
October 5th, 2017, 2:38 PM
It'd be unreal if Norn Ireland could secure a playoff spot tonight.

RFF Champ
October 5th, 2017, 2:48 PM
Jeeeeez what a hit by Rudy

Badger
October 5th, 2017, 3:45 PM
Extra man, press the advantage home in the second half please Scotland!

RFF Champ
October 5th, 2017, 3:57 PM
Pretty pointless Scotland still having this midfield three on.

Badger
October 5th, 2017, 4:11 PM
Unlucky Martin!

RFF Champ
October 5th, 2017, 4:16 PM
Hahaha this is mad. The keeper is a brick wall.

Badger
October 5th, 2017, 4:19 PM
Awww man!

Andy
October 5th, 2017, 4:24 PM
It's fucking torture watching Scotland.

Peter Griffin
October 5th, 2017, 4:28 PM
Fuck sake Andy show some patriotism.

Badger
October 5th, 2017, 4:31 PM
YAaaaasssfderggggg!!!!!!!

RFF Champ
October 5th, 2017, 4:32 PM
Great finish by Skrtel

Badger
October 5th, 2017, 4:32 PM
It's fucking torture watching Scotland.

You were saying?

Peter Griffin
October 5th, 2017, 4:33 PM
Ok Badger put the buckeys down mate!

Badger
October 5th, 2017, 4:37 PM
Brilliant!

Btw Peter, I hate Bucky.

Peter Griffin
October 5th, 2017, 4:38 PM
Sterling effort by Derbys third choice striker mind :yes:

Peter Griffin
October 5th, 2017, 4:38 PM
Brilliant!

Btw Peter, I hate Bucky.

Never tried it, Probably would if I knew where to get some over here haha.

Andy
October 5th, 2017, 4:40 PM
bloody nora

RFF Champ
October 5th, 2017, 4:43 PM
Sterling effort by Derbys third choice striker mind :yes:

Set up by Anya too. They must've practiced that in the reserves.

Peter Griffin
October 5th, 2017, 4:49 PM
I'd have Anya in Derbys match day 18 without question.

Badger
October 5th, 2017, 4:52 PM
Never tried it, Probably would if I knew where to get some over here haha.

The taste just puts me off.

wardy
October 5th, 2017, 6:47 PM
Hampden was fucking bouncing.

Murphy
October 6th, 2017, 4:36 AM
Wembley sure wasn't.

wardy
October 6th, 2017, 5:12 AM
If Wales and/or Bosnia drop points we go into the last game knowing that the win will take us to the play-offs. 'Mon Scotland! Am Brian.

MikeHunt
October 6th, 2017, 6:34 AM
Strachan is the luckiest cunt going like.

I'm rough as fuck the day.

Murphy
October 6th, 2017, 6:50 AM
I have no idea why, but I'd quite like Scotland to qualify.

Simon
October 6th, 2017, 7:07 AM
So that when England crash out humiliatingly we can be reasonably confident there was another team shitter than us?

Murphy
October 6th, 2017, 7:29 AM
Probably not, to be honest. :D

wardy
October 7th, 2017, 1:54 PM
Cheers Belgium. Now we just need to go over and beat Slovenia, who haven't conceded a goal at home, and we're in the play-offs. Easy peasy.

MikeHunt
October 7th, 2017, 2:57 PM
EZPZ

wardy
October 8th, 2017, 8:19 AM
He won't do it but Strachan should be making big changes for tonight. Bannon and Phillips are shit and Forrest has never kicked a ball for Scotland. We looked a lot better when Martin came on and allowed Griffiths to go deep and play a bit so I'd start Martin, Anya and McGregor and drop Phillips, Forrest and Bannon. Maybe even change to a 3-5-2 with Tierney in a more comfortable left centre back position. Fuck it. Whatever we do, we can't play that midfield 5 again.

Andy
October 8th, 2017, 9:28 AM
I thought Bannan was good against Slovakia, especially second half, best I've seen him play for Scotland.

wardy
October 8th, 2017, 9:46 AM
They were all shit, Bannan especially.

RFF Champ
October 8th, 2017, 11:58 AM
Bannan is quality. Anya should be starting, that's such a pedestrian XI.

RFF Champ
October 8th, 2017, 12:08 PM
Only the back 4 have positions

Badger
October 8th, 2017, 12:34 PM
I :heart: Griffiths!

wardy
October 8th, 2017, 12:52 PM
Bannan is quality. Anya should be starting, that's such a pedestrian XI.
Bannan is shite for Scotland. He's done ok tonight but I'd still rather have McGregor who is an actual good player. Leigh Griffiths is Scotland's best player and he just proved it there. 9/10 players for any team would've ballooned that over the bar.

JP
October 8th, 2017, 1:13 PM
40 minutes left to wake the fuck up and grab another.

Badger
October 8th, 2017, 1:29 PM
Fuck's sake, here we go again.

RFF Champ
October 8th, 2017, 1:30 PM
This can be the impetus to rebuild around Tom Cairney.

JP
October 8th, 2017, 1:35 PM
Scotland have shit the bed here.

RFF Champ
October 8th, 2017, 1:36 PM
Fletcher at fault for the opener and misses that chance there but McArthur gets hooked alright then

Badger
October 8th, 2017, 1:43 PM
Come onnnnn!

RFF Champ
October 8th, 2017, 1:44 PM
Haha that's unreal from Fletcher

JP
October 8th, 2017, 1:46 PM
Harry Kane's last minute equaliser is going to do Scotland in.

RFF Champ
October 8th, 2017, 1:48 PM
Berra is crap and an idiot. Cost them a minutes injury time there.

RFF Champ
October 8th, 2017, 1:49 PM
So stupid. The player then gets a red and Berra goes back again to argue with him.

Badger
October 8th, 2017, 1:53 PM
Threw it away.

StevieV
October 8th, 2017, 1:56 PM
That's a shame.

wardy
October 8th, 2017, 2:10 PM
We were absolute pish tonight, didn't deserve anything. Matt Phillips is a useless cunt, no idea why he's even in our squad.

Badger
October 8th, 2017, 2:18 PM
It was dire. First half was pish except Griffiths goal and we went to sleep at the start of the second half, Fletcher was an idiot and their equaliser looked like a training ground effort. The only real urgency came way too late. his Strachan was odd with his substitutions and timing, he's also an idiot.

wardy
October 8th, 2017, 2:31 PM
He can get to fuck and it'll be Moyes in.

wardy
October 9th, 2017, 2:37 AM
The more I think about it, the more I don't want Moyes. All our managers are crap we need to push the boat out for an actual good appointment.

Peter Griffin
October 9th, 2017, 5:43 AM
Ally McCoist?

StevieV
October 9th, 2017, 3:10 PM
Tony Adams

El Capitano Gatisto
October 9th, 2017, 4:03 PM
James McLean drilled that like it was a poppy on the Queen's face.

RFF Champ
October 9th, 2017, 4:18 PM
Top celebration by the Serb.

RFF Champ
October 9th, 2017, 4:25 PM
Duffy and Clark will eat these crap crosses alive.

RFF Champ
October 9th, 2017, 4:41 PM
They'll probably get France in the playoffs now.

El Capitano Gatisto
October 9th, 2017, 4:48 PM
Wales are dreadful without Bale. All the shit talked about Coleman, there's no substitue for having one of the top 5 attacking players in world football in your team.

RFF Champ
October 9th, 2017, 5:00 PM
They rely on Bale, Allen and that 5 at the back formation and they lost all three. You've got to be a special kind of idiot to play Andy King as a winger. Ramsey is a liability when he plays like that but what choice did he have when he looks round at his passing options.

MMH
October 9th, 2017, 5:31 PM
Nice to Ashley Williams isnt just a fat useless mess for Everton.

Grimario
October 10th, 2017, 7:46 AM
That was unnecessarily stressful. We are dogshite.

Spedizzo
October 10th, 2017, 10:48 AM
what are Wales and USA chances of qualifying atm?

Peter Griffin
October 10th, 2017, 10:51 AM
I would have Wales down at 0 percent :lol:

Spedizzo
October 10th, 2017, 10:51 AM
oh ok, I thought Wales win over Georgia ment they could sustain a loss to Ireland

I cant follow all these standings

Peter Griffin
October 10th, 2017, 10:56 AM
Nah afraid not, Are you Welsh in some way?

Spedizzo
October 10th, 2017, 11:00 AM
nope,

USA USA USA

I do like Wales though, they always have dramatic games

Pablo Diablo
October 10th, 2017, 11:46 AM
USA just needs a draw against T&T I'm pretty sure.

BBF
October 10th, 2017, 11:56 AM
Aye, unless Panama beat Costa Rica by 7 and USA lose then USA go through.

Simon
October 10th, 2017, 12:19 PM
Holland/Sweden should be a laugh tonight, Holland need to win by 7 to go through. So if history means anything, Sweden will go 1-0 up inside seven seconds with a goal from a balding postman.

Romford Pele
October 10th, 2017, 2:14 PM
Could be a World Cup without Holland and Argentina imagine that.

MikeHunt
October 10th, 2017, 2:36 PM
Just imagine!!!

Romford Pele
October 10th, 2017, 2:48 PM
Imagine scotland not being there....oh wait :lol:

MikeHunt
October 10th, 2017, 2:49 PM
AH FUCK GOOD ONE!!!!

Grimario
October 10th, 2017, 9:55 PM
USA gone. Holy shit biscuits.


Means we play Honduras for the last spot.

Pablo Diablo
October 10th, 2017, 9:56 PM
Well...that didn't go as the US would have anticipated.

Trinidad and Tobago, Mexico, Honduras, Costa Rica and Panama all added to the Travel Ban.

Pablo Diablo
October 10th, 2017, 9:57 PM
I'm actually beyond shocked. How does the US not beat Trinidad?

Granted I did not want them to have to play that playoff game and take away Bradley and Altidore for another game.

soxfanatic
October 10th, 2017, 10:40 PM
We have the NFL. Let's not worry about them not qualifying.

Judas Iscariot
October 10th, 2017, 10:49 PM
Jesus fucking Christ.

thegoat
October 10th, 2017, 11:08 PM
The USA have been abject in this qualifying campaign. In the long run it might be better for them to not qualify and make some changes going forward.

Chile gone too, USA, Holland and Chile all out within 24 hours.

JP
October 10th, 2017, 11:09 PM
Panama.

Blimey.

Judas Iscariot
October 10th, 2017, 11:13 PM
BLOW IT UP


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgFh729L2oA

soxfanatic
October 10th, 2017, 11:15 PM
The good news is that a couple of days from now this will be forgotten about because soccer isn't that big of a deal in the US compared to several other sports.

RFF Champ
October 11th, 2017, 3:22 AM
The USA have been abject in this qualifying campaign. In the long run it might be better for them to not qualify and make some changes going forward.

Chile gone too, USA, Holland and Chile all out within 24 hours.

Changes like what? That squad got out of a group with Germany, Ghana and Portugal.

Obviously there can always be improvements but there have been new initiatives and growth in the past few years that look promising i.e the expansion of MLS, the exposure of generation Adidas, the Bundesliga actively acquiring young American talent and giving them opportunities, new soccer markets providing proper stadiums and sell out crowds for national team matches.

The reality is that this is a failure at senior team level as this squad was perfectly capable of qualifying. There's plenty of young talent too at clubs like Dortmund, Schalke, Fiorentina, Spurs, Bournemouth, Arsenal, as well as round the MLS. It was the wrong time to say it but Arena was right to say you don't make wholesale changes based on the width of the post.

BBF
October 11th, 2017, 3:23 AM
I was so SO bloody close to USA v Australia ffs. It would've been christmas for me.

thegoat
October 11th, 2017, 4:14 AM
Changes like what? That squad got out of a group with Germany, Ghana and Portugal.

Obviously there can always be improvements but there have been new initiatives and growth in the past few years that look promising i.e the expansion of MLS, the exposure of generation Adidas, the Bundesliga actively acquiring young American talent and giving them opportunities, new soccer markets providing proper stadiums and sell out crowds for national team matches.

The reality is that this is a failure at senior team level as this squad was perfectly capable of qualifying. There's plenty of young talent too at clubs like Dortmund, Schalke, Fiorentina, Spurs, Bournemouth, Arsenal, as well as round the MLS. It was the wrong time to say it but Arena was right to say you don't make wholesale changes based on the width of the post.

Maybe they can start by looking at why it didn't look like the players were anywhere near as good as you've suggested throughout qualification? Why did none of them seem to give a fuck? Complacency? Shit coaching? Fatigue?

They won three games against the other teams in that group. That is some colloidal underperformance. Even if hey had scraped through I'd suggest some pretty wholesale change somewhere is required. It's not because they lost to Trinidad and Tobago that they need to take a good look at themselves, it's because it came down to this game when it absolutely should never have.

When a team that should qualify doesn't, that is when you need to look at what the fuck you are doing, not when the team is hopeless and you meet expectations. If the USA can't work out why this team underperformed and correct it then the malaise will only continue and their promising youth set up won't breed anything but more of the same.

I don't know enough about their set up to know in depth what needs changing but clearly something fundamentally isn't right when a group with talent like theirs is eliminated by the likes of Panama, Costa Rica and Honduras.

Peter Griffin
October 11th, 2017, 4:25 AM
We have the NFL. Let's not worry about them not qualifying.

You do understand you are posting in a FOOTBALL thread right troll boy.

BBF
October 11th, 2017, 4:46 AM
He's right though.

Peter Griffin
October 11th, 2017, 4:50 AM
Well, He is very clearly not a football fan, Given his history, so he is not going to care is he? I would suggest the actual football fans from the USA, Including those that post in here and the US thread care.

Peter Griffin
October 11th, 2017, 4:59 AM
I do find it weird when some Americans say they don't like it because it's 'boring' and then I try and watch NFL but I can't because it's so stuttered and there is no flow to the game because there is a stoppage every 15 seconds.

BBF
October 11th, 2017, 5:05 AM
He's not a big football fan no but he clearly has at least a passing interest. He's right when he says it won't matter too much though because in the grand scheme of things, soccer is the 5th/6th biggest sport in the country.

Peter Griffin
October 11th, 2017, 5:08 AM
Well no sport really matters in the grand scheme of things, But if Forest beat us on Sunday I will still cry myself to sleep :lol:

Murphy
October 11th, 2017, 5:24 AM
It's actually started to bother me how irritated I get when Spurs do badly these days. My wife has said numerous times that she'd prefer it if Spurs were a mid-table team again, when I cared a lot less.

In particular, the semi-final loss to Chelsea in the FA Cup back in April and the recent Swansea game, in very brief moments, I became that kind of fan I hate.

Nothing major or owt, I don't shout, swear or throw stuff, it's just bollocks how it can make me so frustrated. Makes me wonder why I bother sometimes. But then something good happens and all the bad stuff gets forgotten. :D

thegoat
October 11th, 2017, 7:43 AM
I think one thing we can all agree on is that the World Cup (and European Championships) qualification system is way too complex.

http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/41580638

Thanks goodness some absolute genius at UEFA has sorted that out with this devilishly straight forward and easy to understand Nations League.

Peter Griffin
October 11th, 2017, 8:06 AM
Jesus.

JP
October 11th, 2017, 8:07 AM
My head hurts.

Pablo Diablo
October 11th, 2017, 8:42 AM
So one of Azerbaijan, Macedonia, Belarus, Georgia, Armenia., Latvia, Faroe Islands, Luxembourg, Kazakhstan, Moldova, Liechtenstein, Malta, Andorra, Kosovo, San Marino or Gibraltar will be automatically qualified for the Euros.

BBF
October 11th, 2017, 8:48 AM
No, from how I understand it this determines the qualification order for the euros/world cup.

So Nations League > Euro/world cup qualifiers > Euros/World Cup rather than Nations League > Euros/World Cup

BBF
October 11th, 2017, 8:48 AM
But honestly? I'm not sure at all.

Pablo Diablo
October 11th, 2017, 8:50 AM
This line from the article makes me think I have it right


By virtue of the format, lower-tier countries - the bottom 16 in the rankings - are now guaranteed one of the 24 qualifying slots for the European Championship finals.

soxfanatic
October 11th, 2017, 9:02 AM
You do understand you are posting in a FOOTBALL thread right troll boy.

I wasn't trolling at all. I was actually making a very valid point. This actually happened at one of the busier times of the year in the sports world for the US.

With the MLB playoffs going on, the NFL and college football in full swing and the NBA starting next week this will become a non issue in a matter of days. All of those sports are much, much more popular in the US than soccer. This will be a distant memory by the weekend.

I get it that people on here might care. I never said that they didn't. But to the majority of the people in the US they have a much more vested rooting interest in at least one other sport right now, if not three or four.

Chris Scott
October 11th, 2017, 9:07 AM
I wasn't trolling at all. I was actually making a very valid point. This actually happened at one of the busier times of the year in the sports world for the US.

With the MLB playoffs going on, the NFL and college football in full swing and the NBA starting next week this will become a non issue in a matter of days. All of those sports are much, much more popular in the US than soccer. This will be a distant memory by the weekend.

I get it that people on here might care. I never said that they didn't. But to the majority of the people in the US they have a much more vested rooting interest in at least one other sport right now, if not three or four.

Yeah it’s all true but it’s nothing most don’t already know.

soxfanatic
October 11th, 2017, 9:10 AM
Yes, I was just explaining it to Peter as he didn't seem to understand.

PurePlayer
October 11th, 2017, 10:15 AM
I wasn't trolling at all. I was actually making a very valid point. This actually happened at one of the busier times of the year in the sports world for the US.

With the MLB playoffs going on, the NFL and college football in full swing and the NBA starting next week this will become a non issue in a matter of days. All of those sports are much, much more popular in the US than soccer. This will be a distant memory by the weekend.

I get it that people on here might care. I never said that they didn't. But to the majority of the people in the US they have a much more vested rooting interest in at least one other sport right now, if not three or four.


But there are people that do care. Yes it's not the number one sport but the people in this thread care. You can say that about any sport though right? If one team sucks, they move on to the next sport.

Pablo Diablo
October 11th, 2017, 10:40 AM
He's talking about the national collective consciousness though.

If this were to happen in say early August. Things would be different. It might take up more time on the sport shows. It would be a national embarrassment that would constantly be shoved in the faces of the American people. But because it happened in October with everything else going on. It will leave the news cycle much faster.

I'm sure there will be changes that will occur in the US soccer program. But maybe it's for the best that other things are going on so that it doesn't completely kill all the growth that has been made in America regarding soccer.

BBF
October 11th, 2017, 10:45 AM
This line from the article makes me think I have it right

God knows. I read it as there is this competition then a qualifying competition and then the actual event.

if there is this much confusion already just imagine when it gets started

MTR
October 11th, 2017, 11:33 AM
Yes, I was just explaining it to Peter as he didn't seem to understand.

Meh. You were trolling when you came in here and made the first statement. You have backed it up more now which is more than what you usually do but not the first time you have come into this forum and made statements that you knew would spark a reaction from someone.

MTR
October 11th, 2017, 11:37 AM
Sucks that the US is out but hell they played like shit for most of the hex. They should have been in the top three easy. System needs an overhaul and maybe this is the wake up call to get it done.

Spedizzo
October 11th, 2017, 11:40 AM
I'm actually beyond shocked. How does the US not beat Trinidad?

Granted I did not want them to have to play that playoff game and take away Bradley and Altidore for another game.

Because USA is shit. You can blame the conditions of the pitch which was apparently bad too, but USA had absolutely no pursuit it seemed until they were down coming out of half

Chris Scott
October 11th, 2017, 5:08 PM
I hate international anyway but decide to look into how USA never made it. Thatís system is crazy like but USA not getting top 4 is a bit shocking.

MTR
October 11th, 2017, 5:38 PM
Yeah. Insane they didn't finish top 4.

On top of being in the position we were in last night. Even losing last night wouldn't have ended our chances at the playoff against Australia but the fact that Panama and Hondorus both won over teams that already clinched finished us off. Also I saw video about one of the goals that Panama scored that really wasn't a goal or something which gave them the win instead of draw. Despite that we should have never even been in that spot though. We are better than what we played like in the qualifiers. So frustrating.

Chris Scott
October 12th, 2017, 5:52 AM
Yeah you shouldn’t have never been in that position but Panama’s first goal wasn’t over the line, so you got screwed on that.

MTR
November 14th, 2017, 6:47 PM
US wants to do matches with Italy and others that missed the World Cup.

http://www.espnfc.com/united-states/story/3269935/us-soccer-exploring-pre-world-cup-matches-with-netherlands-italy

MikeHunt
November 14th, 2017, 6:54 PM
No Scotland, no interest.

BBF
November 29th, 2017, 3:18 PM
Being a massive fucking nerd I've created a code that determines the most likely World Cup groups. Any interest in me posting the results here?

MTR
November 29th, 2017, 4:01 PM
Sure. Be interesting to see how close you are.

BBF
November 29th, 2017, 4:03 PM
Will put it up in the morning once I've finished

RFF Champ
November 29th, 2017, 4:15 PM
Tell us what happened in the rehearsal too

BBF
November 30th, 2017, 5:01 AM
Not expecting this to be anywhere near but this is what the code gave me:

Russia
Peru
Tunisia
Australia

Brazil
Croatia
Iran
Serbia

Portugal
Colombia
Iceland
Japan

Argentina
Spain
Sweden
Nigeria

Belgium
Mexico
Denmark
Morocco

Poland
Switzerland
Senegal
South Korea

France
England
Egypt
Panama

Germany
Uruguay
Costa Rica
Saudi Arabia

Simon
November 30th, 2017, 5:32 AM
I reckon we'll absolutely batter Panama, probably by as big a margin as 2-0, to send the England fans home happy after we pick up one point from the first two games and are already out.

JP
November 30th, 2017, 5:47 AM
I reckon we'll absolutely batter Panama, probably by as big a margin as 2-0, to send the England fans home happy after we pick up one point from the first two games and are already out.

Simon, if we have one point after two games it's impossible for us to already be out.

wardy
November 30th, 2017, 8:02 AM
State of group A. Could see it happening as well when Putin threatens to have Gary Lineker executed.

Simon
November 30th, 2017, 8:45 AM
Simon, if we have one point after two games it's impossible for us to already be out.

Where there's a will there's a way.

UK Blue
November 30th, 2017, 1:37 PM
Swap England with Spain and we're back in our 2002 group.

UK Blue
November 30th, 2017, 1:39 PM
Also Group F can't happen as it has two African nations.

Code failed.

BBF
November 30th, 2017, 2:07 PM
Also Group F can't happen as it has two African nations.

Code failed.

That is true. I think I spent so long making sure the UEFA rules were right that I missed that.

I'll rerun with a new code and edit.

BBF
November 30th, 2017, 3:42 PM
It was me copying it wrong.

Morocco and South Korea were the wrong way.

UK Blue
November 30th, 2017, 4:37 PM
:yes:

Toughest group

Brazil
England
Egypt
Serbia

Easiest group

Russia
England
Iran
Panama

JP
November 30th, 2017, 5:10 PM
Brazil
England
Sweden
South Korea

If that's possible, kill me, just kill me now.