Pick a Premier League XI

[BBF]

It's been years since we've done this and it's always fun. We've got a few different posters, loads more players to choose from now and the recent talk of Rooney being so much worse than before made me wonder if it would affect how he's viewed in this kind of thing.

Snake draft picking one player each time filling a squad of 11. Any player can be picked as long as they've played in the Premier League in any of its various incarnations since 1992. We can have a little debate along the way and vote at the end regarding who's built the best squad.

Who's in?

Order



wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Vieira
Peter Griffin - Cristiano Ronaldo
MikeHunt - Paul Scholes
Mikey Jones - Frank Lampard
Romford Pele
Torn
The Beer Monster
MMH
Simon
Rip
BBF
BBF
Rip
Simon
MMH
The Beer Monster
Torn
Romford Pele
Mikey Jones
MIkeHunt
Peter Griffin
Reech
Andy
Beefy
wardy
wardy
Beefy And so on and so on

[Peter Griffin]

Not sure what a snake draft is but I will give it a go.

[The Rosk]

This was a brilliant idea but it fizzled out. I fucking smashed the cunt out of this.

[BBF]

Yeah I enjoyed it too last time. I reckon we can finish it up this time. You in?

#BBF4POTTY2016
#BigThreadStarter
#NotARehash

[Rip]

Should be interesting.

[MikeHunt]

aye go on.

[wardy]

I had Neil Ruddock.

[Simon]

In but please explain the rules.

[BBF]

Whoever is in picks in turn a player who has played in the Premier League with the aim of building the best XI possible. One pick at a time.

[wardy]

I'm in by the way.

[Simon]

Sounds simple enough, so I'm in. Excited to find out how I misunderstand it.

[The Rosk]

The first thing you need to agree on is what this is based on. For example, does George Weah count as a better striker than Chris Sutton because he was better... or against how he played in the Premiership. This was never previously discussed.

I also remember being delighted to pick up Mikel Arteta as my 11th player last time because he was fantastic for a long time before becoming an Arsenal recluse.

[The Beer Monster]

I'll make a pick.
Or however this works.

In thinking about this I put my team together, really struggled with right backs.

[BBF]

This is just based on the premier league and performances in it.

If the debate is good we can maybe do a 'all time' one soon.

[Andy]

In.

[Reech]

I'm in

[Rip]

The first thing you need to agree on is what this is based on. For example, does George Weah count as a better striker than Chris Sutton because he was better... or against how he played in the Premiership. This was never previously discussed.

I also remember being delighted to pick up Mikel Arteta as my 11th player last time because he was fantastic for a long time before becoming an Arsenal recluse.

How does it work with regards to squads out of interest?

Do we need set numbers of players by position or are we just picking 11 great players regardless?

[The Rosk]

It's a team you fucking shit kneed cunt.

[Rip]

Define team oh dearest catalogue boy?

Safe to assume we're talking 3/5 defenders, 3/5 midfielders, 1/3 forwards and a keeper?

[The Rosk]

Yeah mate, yeaahhhhhhhhhhhh. Fucking shit kneed twat.

[Rip]

Grumpy much?

Take it Baby Rosk still isn't here then.

Just wait till you haven't slept for a month, just imagine what s ray of sunshine you'll be then.

[BBF]

We'll be sticking with one formation for everyone.

Any preferences? 4-4-2? 4-5-1? 4-2-3-1?

[MikeHunt]

4-4-2

[The Rosk]

Why stick with one formation?

I'm out. Nazis.

[Reech]

For once, I agree with Rosk.

If my XI is just a keeper and 10 marauding midfielders, I should be allowed that. It just won't hold up in the debate/poll versus a proper team with a proper formation like "4-4-fucking-2".

[Beefy]

This was a brilliant idea but it fizzled out. I fucking smashed the cunt out of this.

We finished this all the way through one time at least and then had people vote through who would win in games between the teams. But none of you cunts were old enough to remember Rob Jones so my amazing team with Beckham, Le Tissier, Collymore and Shearer went out early.

EDIT - I had Rooney as well. What a team that was.

It was also when turdpower admitted that he had never seen Eric Cantona play.

Anyway I'm in.

[Reech]

Rob Jones was capped 8 times by England.



8 times.

[Rip]

It was also when turdpower admitted that he had never seen Eric Cantona play.


I remember that, shocking admission.

[Torn]

That was Mikey Jones not turdpower!

[Torn]

I was great at this btw

[Beefy]

I think Mikey has also said he never saw Cantona but I'm sure it was turdy who said it that time. Is Mikey a United fan?

[Beefy]

da_man had Juninho, Di Canio and Carbone in his team I'm sure.

[Rip]

Nope, Mikey is an Arsenal fan, and since he's only 12 then it wouldn't have been as shocking

[Torn]

I think Mikey has also said he never saw Cantona but I'm sure it was turdy who said it that time. Is Mikey a United fan?

Arsenal. There is no way turdy said that. No way. He bloody loves him.

[BBF]

Pick you own formation then :yes:

We're at 10 now. Do we call it there or a few more?

[Romford Pele]

In.

[Beefy]

Arsenal. There is no way turdy said that. No way. He bloody loves him.

Yeah you're right actually. Must have been Mikey.

[The Rosk]

da_man had 7 creative midfielders in front of Colin Hendry and Tim Flowers by his 9th pick IIRC

[BBF]

Fucking hell I forgot about da_man. Jesus.

I'm going to call a close to people playing at 12 and then we can sort out the order etc.

[Mikey_Jones]

Yep, I was just about too young for Cantona. Looking back at my team, I still had him up front!

Count me in

[The Beer Monster]

Pick you own formation then :yes:

We're at 10 now. Do we call it there or a few more?

Or 11 if you don't leave my name off.

[MMH]

Go on then.

[BBF]

Or 11 if you don't leave my name off.

Sorry mate, unintentional.

Right we've got our players. I'll draw names later on today and we can start on picking as soon as I've posted the order.

[The Beer Monster]

I reckon I've got at least 4 excellent picks for every position, except striker, got at least 12.

[BBF]

Here is our order (using random.org):



wardy
Beefy
Andy
Reech
Peter Griffin
MikeHunt
Mikey Jones
BBF
Torn
The Beer Monster
MMH
Simon
Rip


So, wardy whenever you are ready you can kick it off. If you could try and list your players or put them in formation as you pick them that would be a bonus.

[Beefy]

Can't wait to pick Chris Powell at #2

[Beefy]

Anyone in 5th til about 9th want to trade up for your 1st and 3rd round picks?

[BBF]

I'll pop a proper draft order in the first post when I'm back at my laptop :yes:

[Romford Pele]

BBF I said I was in earlier!

[BBF]

Sorry mate. Turns out I shouldn't use my phone on the forums. I've put you in my spot and moved myself to the end.

[Peter Griffin]

See if Wardy ever makes a fucking pick first

[Reech]

I'm looking at this list and I have no idea what to go for first.

I think I'll anchor the whole team around Chris Bart-Williams though.

[BBF]

I've PM'd wardy.

[Peter Griffin]

Out of curiosity BBF are we all picking a position at a time, i.e. evryones first pick will be a gk?

[wardy]

Sorry I forgot about this.

Thierry Henry

[wardy]

Out of curiosity BBF are we all picking a position at a time, i.e. evryones first pick will be a gk?
Let's hope not.

[BBF]

Out of curiosity BBF are we all picking a position at a time, i.e. evryones first pick will be a gk?

Pick who you want when you want.

[Reech]

Can't believe he went with Henry.

Fuck this game, I'm out.

[wardy]

Don't worry you can have Benjani Mwauriwariwsrecjj7

[Reech]

I'm going for Ali Dia

[Romford Pele]

Sorry I forgot about this.

Thierry Henry

Bastard.

[Romford Pele]

Ok, if we can pick who we want when we want I'm picking Ronaldo.

[Reech]

Ok, if we can pick who we want when we want I'm picking Ronaldo.

Isn't that the whole point?

[Reech]

Ok, if we can pick who we want when we want I'm picking Ronaldo.

It's not your pick for another 6. Good luck with that.

[wardy]

Ok, if we can pick who we want when we want I'm picking Ronaldo.
Good luck with that.

[Romford Pele]

Pick who you want when you want.

.....

[wardy]

Yeah good luck with THAT.

[wardy]

I'll go with Linvoy Primus at teatime on Wednesday please.

[Reech]

This is a bloody shambles Beebs ;)

[Beefy]

I went Shearer last time. Kinda want to this time but I'll build around some steel in midfield this year.

Roy Keane

[Reech]

Not Chris Bart-Williams?

[BBF]

FFS....

You can pick any player in any position when it is your turn to pick.

[wardy]

Now you tell us.

[The Rosk]

I went Shearer last time. Kinda want to this time but I'll build around some steel in midfield this year.

Roy Keane

I did that last time when I won it. Great shout. Strikers are two-a-penny.

[Reech]

Top tip, you can help visualise your team by using this. http://lineupbuilder.com/new.php

[Romford Pele]

FFS....

You can pick any player in any position when it is your turn to pick.

***Shakes fist***

Now you tell me...

[Andy]

Shearer

[Reech]

Patrick Viera

[Peter Griffin]

C.Ronaldo

[BBF]

Will update the first post with picks so far when I get home.

[wardy]

Sorry I forgot about this.

Thierry Henry
No need to elaborate but I will anyway.

I was going to choose a midfielder as I agree that top strikers have been more common in the league over the years but since I won't get to pick again for roughly another 5 billion years I decided to go for the out and out best player, regardless of position. Nobody comes close for me. Ronaldo would've surpassed him if he stayed though.

Also, Beefy only picked Roy Keane because he knows for a fact that ECG will come in and declare him the winner. I have it on good authority that his list also contains Clinton Morrison and Mark Kinsella.

[Reech]

This is meant to be fun, yet I lay awake for 30 minutes last night questioning my choice of Viera.

He is a great midfielder, right? I didn't just imagine it, right?

[The Beer Monster]

I have a group of ten first round picks all ready to go and he was on it.

[Reech]

Ah good, I'll sleep easy tonight assuming I don't have to do my second round pick today.

[Romford Pele]

Robert Pires

[Reech]

Still not convinced it's your turn yet.

[Reech]

wardy
Beefy
Andy
Reech
Peter Griffin
MikeHunt
Mikey Jones
Romford Pele
Torn
The Beer Monster
MMH
Simon
Rip
BBF

I think it's MikeHunt's go?

[Peter Griffin]

Agashshshshsh Natch has had a nightmare here

[MikeHunt]

is there any way we could do a list of the picks so far;

1 - Wardy - Henry

and so on

just to keep on top of things.

BBF this is a shambles.

[Romford Pele]

The last list I saw had me after Griff?

[MikeHunt]

Wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Viera
Peter Griffin - C. Ronaldo
Mikehunt - Paul Scholes

[The Rosk]

Wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Viera
Peter Griffin - C. Ronaldo
Mikehunt - Paul Scholes

Vieira spelled incorrectly. Cristiano inexplicably shortened to 'C.' when other forenames haven't been.

Pile of embarrassing shit Mike to be honest with you

[Peter Griffin]

I put C.Ronaldo as my pick to be fair.

[MikeHunt]

Vieira spelled incorrectly. Cristiano inexplicably shortened to 'C.' when other forenames haven't been.

Pile of embarrassing shit Mike to be honest with you

get fucked rosk.

im copying and pasting on my phone from the bullshit the other idiots posted.

next.

[Mikey_Jones]

Wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Vieira
Peter Griffin - Cristiano Ronaldo
Mikehunt - Paul Scholes
Mikey - Frank Lampard

[MikeHunt]

thanks Mikey.

[The Beer Monster]

Vieira spelled incorrectly. Cristiano inexplicably shortened to 'C.' when other forenames haven't been.

Pile of embarrassing shit Mike to be honest with you

Wait until someone picks A. Cole.

[Reech]

I think I did spell Viera wrong. Never realised it had an extra "i", my bad.

[BBF]

First post updated with picks so far.

Just to confirm ROMFORD PELE IT IS NOW YOUR GO

[BBF]

ROMFORD IT IS YOUR GO

[BBF]

FFS COME ON ROMFORD MATE

[wardy]

I reckon he'll go for Pires.

[BBF]

Yeah but its his go now mate. Its his go. His go. Go.

[Reech]

I reckon he'll go for Pires.

Jermaine Jenas

[The Beer Monster]

I'll pick for him.
Franny Jeffers.

[Rip]

At this bloody rate you bastards will have taken my first ten, although I'm confident Shola will slip through the net...

[Romford Pele]

Blimmin work.

Bobby Pires then, va va voom.

[Torn]

wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Vieira
Peter Griffin - Cristiano Ronaldo
MikeHunt - Paul Scholes
Mikey Jones - Frank Lampard
Romford Pele - Robert Pires
Torn - Steven Gerrard

[Torn]

Robert Pires as the 8th best premier league player of all time :lol:!

[The Beer Monster]

wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Vieira
Peter Griffin - Cristiano Ronaldo
MikeHunt - Paul Scholes
Mikey Jones - Frank Lampard
Romford Pele - Robert Pires
Torn - Steven Gerrard
TBM - Peter Schmeichel

[Rip]

Twat

[The Beer Monster]

Thanks.

[Romford Pele]

Pires was the best left sided midfielder in Premier League history.

[Reech]

Darren Anderton

[wardy]

Robert Pires as the 8th best premier league player of all time :lol:!
Wasn't too far off it.

[Torn]

He's a good second round pick.

[Torn]

Also I appreciate Schmeichel is considered the best goalkeeper but picking a goalie here hurts what the rest of your team looks like. This is all about perception.

[Simon]

Also I appreciate Schmeichel is considered the best goalkeeper but picking a goalie here hurts what the rest of your team looks like. This is all about perception.

I agree with the theory that perception is everything but Schmeichel is a great choice on those terms IMO - goalkeeper is the most important position and is also just about the only position where one player stands out above all others in the PL era, with Schmeichel comfortably ahead of Cech, who is comfortably ahead of everyone else. Schmeichel would have been up there with Shearer as my first choice even if I had first pick.

[The Beer Monster]

I had the chance to get arguably the best player in a certain position, so why wouldn't I take it?

[Rip]

Also I appreciate Schmeichel is considered the best goalkeeper but picking a goalie here hurts what the rest of your team looks like. This is all about perception.

I doubt there's any other player in the history of the premier league worth as many points per season to a team, he was my first choice by a mile for that simple reason.

[Torn]

I don't think goalkeeper is the most important position at all - mainly because out of 14 players you'll each get a chance to pick a solid keeper who will look just fine and rest of your team will look a lot better because you have an extra elite outfield player in the mix. I don't think the drop off is as much as you reckon Simon. We'll see how the teams shake out and I'll provide a better comparison of players to show what I mean when more guys have been picked, also so many players can be counted since the last time we did this so you might end up with a very strong team with the best keeper. But I wouldn't do it.

[MMH]

Yeah TBM took my pick....

You build from the back. Schmeichel is by far the best goalie option in my opinion (As Southall wasnt at his peak in the prem..)

[The Beer Monster]

Strikers will be easy. My first choice was strongest midfield, everyone else also had that same idea.
So best keeper was my best option.

[Reech]

Strikers will be easy. My first choice was strongest midfield, everyone else also had that same idea.
So best keeper was my best option.

I'm working through def mid, keeper and then centre backs. I'll get an average striker/full backs/wingers at the end.

[MMH]

Ill have Ryan Giggs.

Consistency more than anything.

[Torn]

"You build from the back"

*Picks Ryan Giggs*

Yes I'm going to slag all your picks off and ignore that I picked Giggs the last time we played this.

[Romford Pele]

He's a good second round pick.

Disagree. He was arguably in the top 4 players of the best side in Premier League history.

He scored a huge (and wonderful) amount of goals for a midfielder as well assists.

I would make the argument that he is the best winger in Premier League history, therefore should be in the first 11.

[Torn]

Giggs was a better pick.

[Rip]

Disagree. He was arguably in the top 4 players of the best side in Premier League history.


Wouldn't it have made sense to pick the other one left better than him then?

(Assuming Henry and Vieira are two of them)

[Torn]

Arguably possibly just snuck into the top 4 players of a good team so better pick him before the arguable 3rd best.

[Beefy]

Giggs was a better pick.

Pires being great for a few years is better than Giggs being mediocre for 20.

[Simon]

Sergio Aguero. After Shearer he's probably the best striker the league has seen, injuries notwithstanding.

[The Beer Monster]

Arguably possibly just snuck into the top 4 players of a good team so better pick him before the arguable 3rd best.

Kolo Toure?

[Torn]

Giggs being an average player for a 20 year span and is only considered elite because of his longetivity is revisionist history and I laugh every time it's brought up on here. Almost as if being a top player for 20 years is a) a bad thing and b) somehow hurts your legacy.

[BBF]

Beefy, MMH, The Rosk. If things start slowing down would you mind putting the next few people to pick in the thread title ala RFF to give people a kick please? I'll be PM'ing too.

[Simon]

Yeah it's bollocks - Giggs was incredible in his first few years, had one mediocre spell which lasted 18 months or so and was then sensational again for years, only petering out towards the end of his career. If Giggs had retired at 35 or so like he should have done, there's no way we would be having this discussion.

[Rip]

Torn between three...

Eric Cantona

[BBF]

This is why I bloody wanted to do this again by the way. We've got some great football posters but the forums itself had petered a bit. Lets get some bloody debate going. Superb work so far.

Giggs is clearly a top 10 player and probably the best left winger in PL history. That being said I think he's the most overrated of the 'class of '92' and would rather have Scholes, Gary Neville or Beckham in my team.

[The Beer Monster]

Sergio Aguero. After Shearer he's probably the best striker the league has seen, injuries notwithstanding.

I was just wondering who would pick the first current premier league player. Wonder how many will make the final team compared to 92 league.

[The Rosk]

This is why I bloody wanted to do this again by the way. We've got some great football posters but the forums itself had petered a bit. Lets get some bloody debate going. Superb work so far.

Giggs is clearly a top 10 player and probably the best left winger in PL history. That being said I think he's the most overrated of the 'class of '92' and would rather have Scholes, Gary Neville or Beckham in my team.

God mate you are NAILED on for the POTTY this year.

[Rip]

Scholes and Schmichel were my first two choices, Giggs is undoubtedly worthy of the top ten though especially is his reliability over the years.

[Simon]

I was just wondering who would pick the first current premier league player. Wonder how many will make the final team compared to 92 league.

I think there's a tendency to under-estimate current players and maybe slightly romanticise the players who were great when you were young. But then I would say that because Aguero.

[BBF]

God mate you are NAILED on for the POTTY this year.

This is just month one, my friend. Next up is the wrestling forum, then entertainment then I take the asylum by storm.

[The Rosk]

Do you want to hurry up and take your goes you cunt?

[Torn]

I think there's a tendency to under-estimate current players and maybe slightly romanticise the players who were great when you were young. But then I would say that because Aguero.

Nah I fully agree with this. MMH is particularly guilty of it.

[MikeHunt]

Torn between three...

Eric Cantona

is there a reason why people have stopped putting the players in the fucking list?????

[Torn]

This is just month one, my friend. Next up is the wrestling forum, then entertainment then I take the asylum by storm.

Royal Rumble is in January so I think you've missed your chance of kicking up a storm with the wrestling forum mate.

[BBF]

wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Vieira
Peter Griffin - Cristiano Ronaldo
MikeHunt - Paul Scholes
Mikey Jones - Frank Lampard
Romford Pele - Robert Pires
Torn - Steven Gerrard
TBM - Peter Schmeichel
MMH - Ryan Giggs
Simon - Sergio Aguero
Rip - Eric Cantona
BBF - Dennis Bergkamp
BBF - John Terry

[BBF]

Royal Rumble is in January so I think you've missed your chance of kicking up a storm with the wrestling forum mate.

Au contraire

[BBF]

You cunt.

[Romford Pele]

Wouldn't it have made sense to pick the other one left better than him then?

(Assuming Henry and Vieira are two of them)

No because there are a lot of strikers to choose from.

[Rip]

wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Vieira
Peter Griffin - Cristiano Ronaldo
MikeHunt - Paul Scholes
Mikey Jones - Frank Lampard
Romford Pele - Robert Pires
Torn - Steven Gerrard
TBM - Peter Schmeichel
MMH - Ryan Giggs
Simon - Sergio Aguero
Rip - Eric Cantona
BBF - Dennis Bergkamp
BBF - John Terry
Rip - David Beckham

[The Beer Monster]

My first round list differed by 3 names.

[Mikey_Jones]

Torn between three...

Eric Cantona

Who?

[Rip]

Which?

[Rip]

Who?

Cantona, Bergkamp and Beckham

[Torn]

I can't help but feel Rip's missed the joke there.

[Torn]

I think you picked the right one though Rip!

[The Beer Monster]

I'm off to the shop to get dinner, I fully expect it to be my pick when I get back.

Any one want anything?

[The Beer Monster]

Dissapointing.

[MMH]

Nah I fully agree with this. MMH is particularly guilty of it.

Eh? Like who?

[wardy]

Stanley Matthews

[MMH]

Boss player

Just out of interest are we judging this on who played the best in the premier league or the best team you could make as there are some quality players who didnt quite cut it in the premier league.

[BBF]

Just based on PL performance.

[MMH]

Fine

Crosses Shevchenko, Veron and Falcao off my list.

[Rip]

Fine

Crosses Shevchenko, Veron and Falcao off my list.

Kluivert fits in that list sadly.

[Simon]

Didn't expect to get my second choice as well - Rio Ferdinand. Surprised he didn't go earlier, especially with Terry going. Hands down the best defender in PL history for me.

[MMH]

Luis Suarez.

I feel dirty now.

GK

LB
CB
CB
RB

LM Ryan Giggs
CM
CM
RM

ST Luis Suarez
ST

[The Beer Monster]

Git.

[MMH]

he is indeed

[The Beer Monster]

wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Vieira
Peter Griffin - Cristiano Ronaldo
MikeHunt - Paul Scholes
Mikey Jones - Frank Lampard
Romford Pele - Robert Pires
Torn - Steven Gerrard
TBM - Peter Schmeichel
MMH - Ryan Giggs
Simon - Sergio Aguero
Rip - Eric Cantona
BBF - Dennis Bergkamp
BBF - John Terry
Rip - David Beckham
MMH - Luis Suarez
TBM - Van Nistelrooy

[wardy]

Time for Torn to come and fill our arses with the jizz of his football wisdom.

[Torn]

:cool:

Rio Ferdinand

[wardy]

Mis-fire.

[BBF]

You got beaten by Simon, mate. SIMON.

[wardy]

Torn you can't have someone that's already taken. Do we need to go over the rules again?

[Torn]

WHAT IS TBMS LIST THEN FUCK

[BBF]

Wrong.

[Torn]

I'm at football I'll pick later

[The Beer Monster]

Yeah forgot Simon, sorry.

[Simon]

TBM - Van Nistelrooy
Git. Thought he might go unnoticed.

[Torn]

Tony Adams

[Rip]

Solid choice, every side needs a rock to build on.

[Romford Pele]

Sol Campbell.

[Romford Pele]

Ignore.

[Romford Pele]

Ignore

[Peter Griffin]

Ahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha

[MikeHunt]

DO A LIST YOU FUCKING WANKERS!!!!

[Romford Pele]

Ahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha

In fairness, I was following the previous order and didn't see that BBF had changed it up...

[Romford Pele]

wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Vieira
Peter Griffin - Cristiano Ronaldo
MikeHunt - Paul Scholes
Mikey Jones - Frank Lampard
Romford Pele - Robert Pires
Torn - Steven Gerrard
TBM - Peter Schmeichel
MMH - Ryan Giggs
Simon - Sergio Aguero
Rip - Eric Cantona
BBF - Dennis Bergkamp
BBF - John Terry
Rip - David Beckham
MMH - Luis Suarez
Simon - Rio Ferdinand
TBM - Van Nistelrooy
Torn - Tony Adams
RP - Sol Campbell

[Simon]

I've done two...

[Romford Pele]

fixed

[Reech]

SHAMBLES

[MikeHunt]

Round 1

wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Vieira
Peter Griffin - Cristiano Ronaldo
MikeHunt - Paul Scholes
Mikey Jones - Frank Lampard
Romford Pele - Robert Pires
Torn - Steven Gerrard
TBM - Peter Schmeichel
MMH - Ryan Giggs
Simon - Sergio Aguero
Rip - Eric Cantona
BBF - Dennis Bergkamp



Round 2

BBF - John Terry
Rip - David Beckham
MMH - Luis Suarez
Simon - Rio Ferdinand
TBM - Van Nistelrooy
Torn - Tony Adams
RP - Sol Campbell

[Simon]

Nice one Mike I'll make sure to read that just as soon as my night-vision goggles arrive.

[MikeHunt]

what?

i can see it fine. what skin do you use?

[The Beer Monster]

Have people made their minds up on formation yet?

[MikeHunt]

1-0-5-5

[Reech]

Have people made their minds up on formation yet?

4-2-3-1

[The Rosk]

Lads, no Villa players picked yet?

Any reason for this?

[Reech]

Don't worry Rosky. Dalian Atkinson is my top 3rd round pick.

[Beefy]

Just leave Ian Taylor for me pls.

[Peter Griffin]

Fuck off, Taylor is mine.

[Reech]

Mikey's been hovering here for ages. Bloody make your pick already.

[Mikey_Jones]

Round 1

wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Vieira
Peter Griffin - Cristiano Ronaldo
MikeHunt - Paul Scholes
Mikey Jones - Frank Lampard
Romford Pele - Robert Pires
Torn - Steven Gerrard
TBM - Peter Schmeichel
MMH - Ryan Giggs
Simon - Sergio Aguero
Rip - Eric Cantona
BBF - Dennis Bergkamp



Round 2

BBF - John Terry
Rip - David Beckham
MMH - Luis Suarez
Simon - Rio Ferdinand
TBM - Van Nistelrooy
Torn - Tony Adams
RP - Sol Campbell
Mikey - Nemanja Vidic

[Beefy]

Getting concerned at the number of centre half's going. Didn't want to go there this early but might not be anyone decent left by round four if not.

[Reech]

I'm going to end up with bloody Ryan Shawcross at this rate.

[MikeHunt]

Round 1

wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Vieira
Peter Griffin - Cristiano Ronaldo
MikeHunt - Paul Scholes
Mikey Jones - Frank Lampard
Romford Pele - Robert Pires
Torn - Steven Gerrard
TBM - Peter Schmeichel
MMH - Ryan Giggs
Simon - Sergio Aguero
Rip - Eric Cantona
BBF - Dennis Bergkamp



Round 2

BBF - John Terry
Rip - David Beckham
MMH - Luis Suarez
Simon - Rio Ferdinand
TBM - Van Nistelrooy
Torn - Tony Adams
RP - Sol Campbell
Mikey - Nemanja Vidic
MikeHunt - Gary Neville

[Peter Griffin]

Round 1

wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Vieira
Peter Griffin - Cristiano Ronaldo
MikeHunt - Paul Scholes
Mikey Jones - Frank Lampard
Romford Pele - Robert Pires
Torn - Steven Gerrard
TBM - Peter Schmeichel
MMH - Ryan Giggs
Simon - Sergio Aguero
Rip - Eric Cantona
BBF - Dennis Bergkamp



Round 2

BBF - John Terry
Rip - David Beckham
MMH - Luis Suarez
Simon - Rio Ferdinand
TBM - Van Nistelrooy
Torn - Tony Adams
RP - Sol Campbell
Mikey - Nemanja Vidic
MikeHunt - Gary Neville
Peter Griffin - Martin Keown

[The Rosk]

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[Reech]

Round 1

wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Vieira
Peter Griffin - Cristiano Ronaldo
MikeHunt - Paul Scholes
Mikey Jones - Frank Lampard
Romford Pele - Robert Pires
Torn - Steven Gerrard
TBM - Peter Schmeichel
MMH - Ryan Giggs
Simon - Sergio Aguero
Rip - Eric Cantona
BBF - Dennis Bergkamp



Round 2

BBF - John Terry
Rip - David Beckham
MMH - Luis Suarez
Simon - Rio Ferdinand
TBM - Van Nistelrooy
Torn - Tony Adams
RP - Sol Campbell
Mikey - Nemanja Vidic
MikeHunt - Gary Neville
Peter Griffin - Martin Keown
Reech - Claude Makelele

Fuck defenders, I've got all the protection they'll need.

[Beefy]

bloody Andy. What a cunt.

[Reech]

You playing him at LB?

[wardy]

Was it not Andy's go?

[Reech]

It was.

[Beefy]

Who cares about Andy? Jesus.

[Simon]

Martin Keown and Tony Adams going in the first twenty picks :lol:

[Andy]

Tony Adams is in the top two or three centre backs in PL history you maniac. Keown, that's a weird one. Give me five minutes for my pick.

[Beefy]

Tony Adams is a good pick. That's Simon's Spurs bias shining through there.

[Andy]

wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Vieira
Peter Griffin - Cristiano Ronaldo
MikeHunt - Paul Scholes
Mikey Jones - Frank Lampard
Romford Pele - Robert Pires
Torn - Steven Gerrard
TBM - Peter Schmeichel
MMH - Ryan Giggs
Simon - Sergio Aguero
Rip - Eric Cantona
BBF - Dennis Bergkamp



Round 2

BBF - John Terry
Rip - David Beckham
MMH - Luis Suarez
Simon - Rio Ferdinand
TBM - Van Nistelrooy
Torn - Tony Adams
RP - Sol Campbell
Mikey - Nemanja Vidic
MikeHunt - Gary Neville
Peter Griffin - Martin Keown
Reech - Claude Makelele
Andy - Ashley Cole

[Beefy]

Ok now can I pick Gareth Bale? Awesome.

Gareth Bale (Tottenham Hotspur)

wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Vieira
Peter Griffin - Cristiano Ronaldo
MikeHunt - Paul Scholes
Mikey Jones - Frank Lampard
Romford Pele - Robert Pires
Torn - Steven Gerrard
TBM - Peter Schmeichel
MMH - Ryan Giggs
Simon - Sergio Aguero
Rip - Eric Cantona
BBF - Dennis Bergkamp



Round 2

BBF - John Terry
Rip - David Beckham
MMH - Luis Suarez
Simon - Rio Ferdinand
TBM - Van Nistelrooy
Torn - Tony Adams
RP - Sol Campbell
Mikey - Nemanja Vidic
MikeHunt - Gary Neville
Peter Griffin - Martin Keown
Reech - Claude Makelele
Andy - Ashley Cole
Beefy - Gareth Bale

[wardy]

Cesc Fabregas
Ricardo Carvalho

ROUND 1

wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Vieira
Peter Griffin - Cristiano Ronaldo
MikeHunt - Paul Scholes
Mikey Jones - Frank Lampard
Romford Pele - Robert Pires
Torn - Steven Gerrard
TBM - Peter Schmeichel
MMH - Ryan Giggs
Simon - Sergio Aguero
Rip - Eric Cantona
BBF - Dennis Bergkamp


ROUND 2

BBF - John Terry
Rip - David Beckham
MMH - Luis Suarez
Simon - Rio Ferdinand
TBM - Van Nistelrooy
Torn - Tony Adams
RP - Sol Campbell
Mikey - Nemanja Vidic
MikeHunt - Gary Neville
Peter Griffin - Martin Keown
Reech - Claude Makelele
Andy - Ashley Cole
Beefy - Gareth Bale
wardy - Cesc Fabregas

ROUND 3

wardy - Ricardo Carvalho

[Peter Griffin]

Tony Adams is in the top two or three centre backs in PL history you maniac. Keown, that's a weird one. Give me five minutes for my pick.

Wasn't Keown and Adams Arsenal's cb partnership in their pl heyday? Maybe my memory hasn't served me well here

[Beefy]

Jaap Stam (Manchester United)

ROUND 1


wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Vieira
Peter Griffin - Cristiano Ronaldo
MikeHunt - Paul Scholes
Mikey Jones - Frank Lampard
Romford Pele - Robert Pires
Torn - Steven Gerrard
TBM - Peter Schmeichel
MMH - Ryan Giggs
Simon - Sergio Aguero
Rip - Eric Cantona
BBF - Dennis Bergkamp


ROUND 2

BBF - John Terry
Rip - David Beckham
MMH - Luis Suarez
Simon - Rio Ferdinand
TBM - Van Nistelrooy
Torn - Tony Adams
RP - Sol Campbell
Mikey - Nemanja Vidic
MikeHunt - Gary Neville
Peter Griffin - Martin Keown
Reech - Claude Makelele
Andy - Ashley Cole
Beefy - Gareth Bale
wardy - Cesc Fabregas

ROUND 3

wardy - Ricardo Carvalho
Beefy - Jaap Stam

[The Beer Monster]

Stam was a beast, damn I wanted him.

[Simon]

Tony Adams is in the top two or three centre backs in PL history you maniac. Keown, that's a weird one. Give me five minutes for my pick.

Ferdinand, Campbell, Terry, Vidic, Stam, Carvalho. I'd argue King as well but can't be bothered, so I'll allow him seventh.

[Reech]

Where the flip is Andy?

[Andy]

Haaaaaaa!

[Andy]

ROUND 1


wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Vieira
Peter Griffin - Cristiano Ronaldo
MikeHunt - Paul Scholes
Mikey Jones - Frank Lampard
Romford Pele - Robert Pires
Torn - Steven Gerrard
TBM - Peter Schmeichel
MMH - Ryan Giggs
Simon - Sergio Aguero
Rip - Eric Cantona
BBF - Dennis Bergkamp


ROUND 2

BBF - John Terry
Rip - David Beckham
MMH - Luis Suarez
Simon - Rio Ferdinand
TBM - Van Nistelrooy
Torn - Tony Adams
RP - Sol Campbell
Mikey - Nemanja Vidic
MikeHunt - Gary Neville
Peter Griffin - Martin Keown
Reech - Claude Makelele
Andy - Ashley Cole
Beefy - Gareth Bale
wardy - Cesc Fabregas

ROUND 3

wardy - Ricardo Carvalho
Beefy - Jaap Stam
Andy - Xabi Alonso

[Andy]

Ferdinand, Campbell, Terry, Vidic, Stam, Carvalho. I'd argue King as well but can't be bothered, so I'll allow him seventh.

I dunno if you're being serious or looking for a bite but come on.

I can accept Terry and Ferdinand because they have the longevity in PL terms but Adams was every bit as good, certainly better than Vidic and Carvalho who had their weaknesses and in terms of longevity over Stam.

Obviously you're joking about King.

[wardy]

He's just trying to bait someone into wasting a pick.

[Beefy]

Surely this has nothing to do with longevity? This is a collection of players who we're being asked to put together into a team based on how good they were in the Premier League, no?

Peter Atherton and Rory Delap have 700 Premier League appearances between them but they're not on my shortlist.

Also Ledley is as good as Adams and I'd have both over most of those names that Simon listed (not Stam obvs)

[wardy]

Well I would assume longevity would be used in a 'tiebreak' situation between 2 equally good players.

[Reech]

But now I'm tempted by King so it's working.

[Reech]

ROUND 1

wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Vieira
Peter Griffin - Cristiano Ronaldo
MikeHunt - Paul Scholes
Mikey Jones - Frank Lampard
Romford Pele - Robert Pires
Torn - Steven Gerrard
TBM - Peter Schmeichel
MMH - Ryan Giggs
Simon - Sergio Aguero
Rip - Eric Cantona
BBF - Dennis Bergkamp


ROUND 2

BBF - John Terry
Rip - David Beckham
MMH - Luis Suarez
Simon - Rio Ferdinand
TBM - Van Nistelrooy
Torn - Tony Adams
RP - Sol Campbell
Mikey - Nemanja Vidic
MikeHunt - Gary Neville
Peter Griffin - Martin Keown
Reech - Claude Makelele
Andy - Ashley Cole
Beefy - Gareth Bale
wardy - Cesc Fabregas

ROUND 3

wardy - Ricardo Carvalho
Beefy - Jaap Stam
Andy - Xabi Alonso
Reech - Vincent Kompany

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[Beefy]

Well I would assume longevity would be use in a 'tiebreak' situation between 2 equally good players.

That's fair enough. I guess the point I'm making is that there are some fantastic players who then played on for too long or got injuries, or the other way players who were good but not great and then were suddenly great.

Personally if I'm assessing a team who has someone like that in the side then I'm thinking of that player when they were at their peak.

Peter Schmeichel had longevity but some of it was a couple of shit years at Man City. That shouldn't count against him. And it isn't Leeds United's Eric Cantona who got picked in the top 10.

[Simon]

I dunno if you're being serious or looking for a bite but come on.

I can accept Terry and Ferdinand because they have the longevity in PL terms but Adams was every bit as good, certainly better than Vidic and Carvalho who had their weaknesses and in terms of longevity over Stam.

Obviously you're joking about King.

Adams was absolutely not better than Vidic, Carvalho or Stam. Longevity is only relevant to an extent, I don't think anyone's going to be putting Henrik Larsson in but these are players who were utterly dominant for the time they were around, which in each case was a fair old amount of time. If you're talking longevity then Dion Dublin should be picked before Van Nistelrooy seeing as he scored more goals.

I'm not putting Adams down here at all - I admit he was very good and would have him down as seventh or eighth best of all time - and you can't claim it's an anti-Arsenal thing when I admitted that slag Campbell was better than him...I'm just saying there were better players than him. That dominant Arsenal side's defence was all about the unit - Adams was a big part of it, but on his own I don't think he was this incredible player you're making him out to be. An incredibly important player and part of Arsenal's history for sure, as the captain of arguably their best ever side, and that goal against Everton was a 'perfect' Premier League moment though it pains me to say it...but I am surprised to see him ranked so highly (though less surprised it's an Arsenal fan picking him). He was good, he wasn't great.

[The Beer Monster]

As an Arsenal fan I really wanted Adams. But there's always Pascal Cygan.

[BBF]

I wanted Xabi Alonso so fucking much Andy you CUNT

[Simon]

Alonso is a strange one in that he was never rated as a true superstar while he was here - in fact I would argue it's only been in the past few years at Bayern that people re-evaluated him as one of the best ever in his position, even at Madrid he was one of those that the pros talked up a lot, but wasn't necessarily appreciated by fans. Not that Liverpool or Madrid fans didn't rate him of course, but it was always other players that were talked about ahead of him.

If this thread had happened on the day he left the Premier League, I don't think he'd be anywhere near as high as he is now, yet years later and without having played a single minute of football here since, he's now seen as one of the greats. Weird.

[Beefy]

I remember Liverpool fans being very big on Alonso. I thought he was great, to be honest. I seem to recall him being very highly spoken on on Rajah - what player could ask more than that?

On the other hand Benitez wanted to get rid of him to bring in Gareth Barry.

[BBF]

Alonso ran games for Liverpool.

[The Beer Monster]

Was it Alonso who scored that goal in the FA Cup from about 800 yards out?

[The Rosk]

Beer Monster - just so you know, that's a bit far - usually football pitches are only around 120 yards or so.

[Reech]

"Alonso scores goal from the Moon"

[Mikey_Jones]

Reech - just so you know, that's a bit small - usually the moon is further than 800 yards or so

[The Beer Monster]

Beer Monster - just so you know, that's a bit far - usually football pitches are only around 120 yards or so.

Yeah he was in the car park or something.

[Peter Griffin]

ROUND 1

wardy - Thierry Henry
Beefy - Roy Keane
Andy - Alan Shearer
Reech - Patrick Vieira
Peter Griffin - Cristiano Ronaldo
MikeHunt - Paul Scholes
Mikey Jones - Frank Lampard
Romford Pele - Robert Pires
Torn - Steven Gerrard
TBM - Peter Schmeichel
MMH - Ryan Giggs
Simon - Sergio Aguero
Rip - Eric Cantona
BBF - Dennis Bergkamp


ROUND 2

BBF - John Terry
Rip - David Beckham
MMH - Luis Suarez
Simon - Rio Ferdinand
TBM - Van Nistelrooy
Torn - Tony Adams
RP - Sol Campbell
Mikey - Nemanja Vidic
MikeHunt - Gary Neville
Peter Griffin - Martin Keown
Reech - Claude Makelele
Andy - Ashley Cole
Beefy - Gareth Bale
wardy - Cesc Fabregas

ROUND 3

wardy - Ricardo Carvalho
Beefy - Jaap Stam
Andy - Xabi Alonso
Reech - Vincent Kompany
Peter Griffin - Gianfranco Zola

[Peter Griffin]

I will be going for a 424 wide system I think

[Simon]

I hope these idiotic formations are taken into account when we're considering the relative qualities of the teams. My sturdy 5-4-1 is going to 1-0 you all to death.