Rajah Fantasy Football Draft Thread 2015/16 (Shelton, Alex)

[BBF]

It's the most wonderful time of the year!!


Round 1

1 Alex - Sergio Aguero (Manchester City)
2 Jay - Jordan Rhodes (Blackburn)
3 Beefy - Wayne Rooney (Manchester United)
4 Bad Collin - Damien Reeves - Altrincham
5 MMH - Martyn Waghorn (Rangers)
6 son_of_foley - Neymar (Barcelona)
7 Gary J - Will Grigg (Wigan)
8 BBF - Jon Parkin (Forest Green)
9 Torn - Chris Martin (Derby)
10 Hurley - Matt Tubbs (Portsmouth)
11 Christopherson - Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool)
12 Rip - Joe Garner (Preston North End)
13 Mikey Jones - Reuben Reid (Plymouth)
14 Matthew - Billy Sharp (Sheffield United)
15 Andy - Olivier Giroud (Arsenal)
16 The Rosk - Tom Bradshaw (Walsall)
17 Chris Scott - Ross McCormack (Fulham)
18 Connorboy - Peter Weatherson (Annan)
19 Reech - Rudy Gestede (Blackburn)
20 SheltonLondon - Nadir Ciftci (Celtic)

Round 2

21 SheltonLondon - Andre Gray (Brentford)
22 Reech - Derek Lyle (Queen of the South)
23 Connorboy - Craig Gunn (Elgin)
24 Chris Scott - Leon Clarke (Bury)
25 The Rosk - Leigh Griffiths (Celtic)
26 Andy - Jason Cummings (Hibernian)
27 Matthew - Barry Corr (Cambridge)
28 Mikey Jones - Charlie Austin (QPR)
29 Rip - Daryl Murphy (Ipswich)
30 Christopherson - Adam Rooney (Aberdeen)
31 Hurley - Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal)
32 Torn - Benik Afobe (Wolves)
33 BBF - James Constable (Eastleigh)
34 Gary J - Diego Costa (Chelsea)
35 son_of_foley - Scott Rendell (Woking)
36 MMH - John Akinde (Barnet)
37 Bad Collin - Christian Benteke (Liverpool)
38 Beefy - Harry Kane (Tottenham)
39 Jay - Zlatan Ibrahimovic (PSG)
40 Alex - Marc Richards (Northampton)

Round 3

41 Alex - Nouha Dicko (Wolves)
42 Jay - Andy Mangan (Tranmere)
43 Beefy - Darren Bent (Derby)
44 Bad Collin - Jamie Cureton (Dagenham and Redbridge)
45 MMH - Romelu Lukaku (Everton)
46 son_of_foley - Dom Malonga (Hibernian)
47 Gary J - Andy Williams (Doncaster)
48 BBF - Rory McAllister (Peterhead)
49 Torn - Tom Nichols (Exeter)
50 Hurley - Ian Henderson (Rochdale)
51 Christopherson - Izale McLeod (Crawley)
52 Rip - Rory Loy (Dundee)
53 Mikey Jones - Matt Smith (Fulham)
54 Matthew - Juanma Delgado (Hearts)
55 Andy - Michael Moffat (Dunfermline)
56 The Rosk - Omar Bogle (Grimsby Town)
57 Chris Scott - Lenell John-Lewis (Newport)
58 Connorboy - James Collins (Shrewsbury)
59 Reech - Graziano Pelle (Southampton)
60 SheltonLondon - Danny Hylton (Oxford)

Round 4

61 SheltonLondon - Paddy Madden (Scunthorpe)
62 Reech - Alan Trouten (Ayr)
63 Connorboy - Lyle Taylor (AFC Wimbledon)
64 Chris Scott - Osman Sow (Hearts)
65 The Rosk - Danny Johnson (Gateshead)
66 Andy - Kevin Smith (East Fife)
67 Matthew - Cody McDonald (Gillingham)
68 Mikey Jones - Adam Armstrong (Coventry)
69 Rip - Falcao (Chelsea)
70 Christopherson - Clayton Donaldson (Birmingham City)
71 Hurley - Christian Stuani (Middlesbrough)
72 Torn - Padraig Amond (Grimsby Town)
73 BBF - Ashley Grimes (Barrow)
74 Gary J - Lasse Vibe (Brentford)
75 son_of_foley - Ricky Miller (Dover)
76 MMH - Jelle Vossen (Burnley)
77 Bad Collin - John Sutton (St Johnstone)
78 Beefy - Luis Suarez (Barcelona)
79 Jay - Joe Gormley (Peterborough)
80 Alex - Paul McCallum (Leyton Orient)

Round 5

81 Alex - Chris Wood (Leeds)
82 Jay - Matt Green (Mansfield)
83 Beefy - Craig Mackail-Smith (Unattached)
84 Bad Collin - Jason Walker (Barrow)
85 MMH - Adam Boyes (Guiseley)
86 son_of_foley - Billy Waters (Cheltenham)
87 Gary J - Charlie Wyke (Carlisle)
88 BBF - Lee Angol (Peterborough)
89 Torn - Jay Simpson (Leyton Orient)
90 Hurley - Wilfried Bony (Manchester City)
91 Christopherson - Louis Moult (Motherwell)
92 Rip - Darren Lavery (Berwick)
93 Mikey Jones - Lee Gregory (Millwall)
94 Matthew - Adebayo Akinfenwa (AFC Wimbledon)
95 Andy - Kris Boyd (Kilmarnock)
96 The Rosk - Aaron O'Connor (Forest Green)
97 Chris Scott - Eden Hazard (Chelsea)
98 Connorboy - David Mooney (Southend)
99 Reech - Kenwyne Jones (Cardiff City)
100 SheltonLondon - Lucas Joao (Sheffield Wednesday)

Round 6

101 SheltonLondon - Aleksandar Mitrovic (Newcastle)
102 Reech - Raheem Sterling (Manchester City)
103 Connorboy - Johann Berg Gudmundsson (Charlton)
104 Chris Scott - Saido Berahino (West Brom)
105 The Rosk - Kemar Roofe (Oxford)
106 Andy - Bryan Prunty (Airdrie)
107 Matthew - Memphis Depay (Man United)
108 Mikey Jones - Zach Clough (Bolton)
109 Rip - Moussa Sow (Fenerbache)
110 Christopherson - Nikica Jelavic (Hull)
111 Hurley - Sam Vokes (Burnley)
112 Torn - Sam Gallagher (MK Dons)
113 BBF - Noel Hunt (Southend)
114 Gary J - Richard Brodie (Southport)
115 son_of_foley - Matty Taylor (Bristol Rovers)
116 MMH - Alexandre Lacazette (Lyon)
117 Bad Collin - Jackson Martinez (Atletico)
118 Beefy - Sam Winnall (Barnsley)
119 Jay - Liam Hearn (Lincoln)
120 Alex - Rakish Bingham (Hartlepool)

Round 7

121 Alex - Robert Lewandowski (Bayern)
122 Jay - Freddie Sears (Ipswich)
123 Beefy - Theo Walcott (Arsenal)
124 Bad Collin - Soulymane Coulibaly (Peterborough)
125 MMH - Jonathan Margetts (Tranmere)
126 son_of_foley - Marco Matias (Sheffield Wednesday)
127 Gary J - Mauro Icardi (Inter)
128 BBF - Junior Morias (Boreham Wood)
129 Torn - Troy Deeney (Watford)
130 Hurley - Pedro (Ineligible)
131 Christopherson - Iain Russell (Queen of the South)
132 Rip - Nakhi Wells (Huddersfield)
133 Mikey Jones - Odion Ighalo (Watford)
134 Matthew - Farid El Alagui (Hibernian)
135 Andy - Faissal El Bakhtaoui (Dunfermline)
136 The Rosk - Che Adams (Sheffield United)
137 Chris Scott - Dexter Blackstock (Nottingham Forest)
138 Connorboy - Dale Hilson (QotS)
139 Reech - Christian Eriksen (Tottenham Hotspur)
140 SheltonLondon - Greg Stewart (Dundee)
141 Alex (MMH Pick)

[Bad Collin]

I'm ready

[MMH]

Look at BBF being the Platini to my Blatter....

[RFF Champ]

Sergio Aguero (Manchester City)

[Torn]

:panic:

[BBF]

Look at BBF being the Platini to my Blatter....

Sorry, I jumped in as it's easier to update the first post and spreadsheet together!

[MMH]

We start at...oh fuck it go on then.

Lets just not get all shouty if people dont log on until 12....

[MMH]

Sorry, I jumped in as it's easier to update the first post and spreadsheet together!

Ha, Nah its fine i was only joking, cheers for doing it.

[Torn]

WHERE IS JAY

[Torn]

We start at...oh fuck it go on then.

Lets just not get all shouty if people dont log on until 12....

Oh

[Jay]

Welcome home, Jordan Rhodes.

[BBF]

FOR FUCKS SAKE JAY

[Torn]

Welcome home, Jordan Rhodes.

Home? He's on my team again?

[The Rosk]

I know who Beefy's going for. Shall I say it?

[Jay]

Home? He's on my team again?
He had his best years at Jayventus, when I took a boy and made him into the man he is today. I'm like a father figure to him.

[Torn]

He had his best years at Jayventus, when I took a boy and made him into the man he is today. I'm like a father figure to him.

What a load of shit. I nurtured him through his early years into the striker he is today after he was cruelly tossed aside by you for Febian Brandy in 2009.

[Bad Collin]

Aguero and Rhodes were number one and two on BCWROGS, well done boys.

Beefy, take your time. I'm still not 100% sure.

[Torn]

I'm looking forward to having him back in 2017 though.

[The Rosk]

Beefy had asked me NOT to put in who he said he was going for last night. Last minute change of heart?

[Torn]

No doubt Beefy is going to bottle this pick just like he bottled the league.

[The Rosk]

beefy didn't choke. He just decided to trust Craig Gunn, Paddy Madden, Tom Ince and Elliott Lee to carry him to the title when 7 points clear.

[Bad Collin]

Craig Gunn is a legend.

Where is the Beef? I have a meeting from 11:15 to 13:00 so there will be a delay if he doesn't pick before that.

[Beefy]

Ince did well for me and if Darren Bent could score a penalty or if Alex had accepted the ridiculously good trade offer I gave him then Sergio would be home.

I'll be picking in FIVE minutes.

[Jay]

What a load of shit. I nurtured him through his early years into the striker he is today after he was cruelly tossed aside by you for Febian Brandy in 2009.That was tough love. He learnt from it, I brought him back as my first pick of the draft and he then had the best season of his career.

[Mikey_Jones]

PLAYERS PICKED

A
Aguero, Sergio (Man City/Alex)
Austin, Charlie (QPR/Mikey_Jones)
B
Benteke, Christian (Liverpool/Bad Collin)
C
Constable, James (Eastleigh/BBF)
Costa, Diego (Chelsea/Gary J)
Cummings, Jason (Hibernian/Andy)
D
E
F
G
Grigg, Will (Wigan/Gary J)
H
I
J
K
Kane, Harry (Tottenham/Beefy)
L
M
Murphy, Daryl (Ipswich Town/
N
O
P
Parkin, Big Jon (Forest Green/BBF)
Q
R
Reeves, Damien (Altrincham/Bad Collin)
Reid, Reuben (Plymouth/Mikey_Jones)
Rhodes, Jordan (Blackburn/Jay)
Richards, Marc (Northampton/Alex)
Rooney, Adam (Aberdeen/Christopherson)
Rooney, Wayne (Man United/Beefy)
S
Sanchez, Alexis (Arsenal/Hurley)
Sturridge, Daniel (Liverpool/Christopherson)
T
Tubbs, Matt (Portsmouth/Hurley)
U
V
W
Waghorn
X
Y
Z

[Beefy]

With the third pick of the 2015 RFF Draft AFC Beefy draft Wayne Rooney of Manchester United.

1. Wayne Rooney (Manchester United)
2. Harry Kane (Tottenham Hotspur)
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.

I really hope that San Marino vs England was one of the weekends added to our schedule when we went up to 20 teams.

[The Rosk]

Beefy definitely wasn't waiting for a transfer to happen during his timeslot. Definitely definitely definitely not.

[Beefy]

I can't wait to see Jay's face when Jordan Rhodes signs for West Brom btw.

[Beefy]

Beefy definitely wasn't waiting for a transfer to happen during his timeslot. Definitely definitely definitely not.

In an hour? I wasn't.

I was in a meeting.

[Jay]

I can't wait to see Jay's face when Jordan Rhodes signs for West Brom btw.
If that happens, I'll quit.

[BBF]

With the third pick of the 2015 RFF Draft AFC Beefy draft Wayne Rooney of Manchester United.

1. Wayne Rooney (Manchester United)
2. Harry Kane (Tottenham Hotspur)
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.

I really hope that San Marino vs England was one of the weekends added to our schedule when we went up to 20 teams.

It is.

[Beefy]

It is.

ahaha who am I playing that week?

It is my sister's wedding day so I won't get to watch it.

[BBF]

MMH.

I don't understand your excuse though, to be honest.

[The Rosk]

If that happens, I'll quit.

Why?

[Jay]

Why?I wasn't being entirely serious.

I did almost have a last minute change of heart; I was going to go with Rooney since there are no question marks over him. Rhodes could very well spend the season sulking at Blackburn, but I had to go for him.

[Beefy]

MMH.

I don't understand your excuse though, to be honest.

Because I'll have already sloped out at midday to watch Southend vs Peterborough on Sky Sports.

[BBF]

Makes sense now.

[Bad Collin]

Damian Reeves (Altringham)

1. FC

Christian Benteke (Liverpool)
Damian Reeves (Altringham)

[Beefy]

Does anyone else do a prediction before the draft of who they think they will actually get? I usually end up getting about half of the players I imagined I'd pick up.

[BBF]

Yeah I do. I normally do ok but only as I like the conference so much and most others don't.

[Jay]

I used to; I'd have every round mapped out with players in separate tiers. For the past two or three years, though, outside of the first three picks I've pretty much just winged it.

[Bad Collin]

No, because then I get too disapointed if someone takes my targets. I won't look at my list again now until we are within a few picks of me.

[Torn]

Damian Reeves (Altringham)

1. FC

Christian Benteke (Liverpool)
Damian Reeves (Altringham)

Bit different to Messi!

[Torn]

Does anyone else do a prediction before the draft of who they think they will actually get? I usually end up getting about half of the players I imagined I'd pick up.

I used to map it out like Jay did with players who I'd be happy picking in certain rounds etc but after doing so much American fantasy I just use a basic ranked list like that. Mostly for the later rounds it's too hard to order like that so I just jot names down so I don't forget about them and decide when the pick comes around.

[Bad Collin]

Bit different to Messi!

Yup, I wasn't going to go lower leagues after getting burned by Brett Pittman in my first full season but Reeves seems settled enough and I didn't like the PL options.

I was reading today that all of the league scouts that have watched him have not come in for him because all he does is score.

[Beefy]

Reeves was linked with us last week. I don't think there was anything in it though.

[Bad Collin]

It's an easy story isn't it? Prolific strikers are always going to be linked away.

[Torn]

Yup, I wasn't going to go lower leagues after getting burned by Brett Pittman in my first full season but Reeves seems settled enough and I didn't like the PL options.

I was reading today that all of the league scouts that have watched him have not come in for him because all he does is score.

He signed a new deal recently. I wanted him last year as he had a ridiculous record in the leagues below but Grim got there first :( I read at one point a while ago he didn't want to leave Altrincham for the football league when he was scoring 40 goals a season because he was happy in his life earning quite a bit as a successful tradesman.

[BBF]

He's a definite risk I think. If he stays though he's guaranteed goals.

[Torn]

It's an interesting pick at 4 as I don't doubt he will score goals but at the same time there is a few conference strikers I'd still rather have.

[BBF]

It's an interesting pick at 4 as I don't doubt he will score goals but at the same time there is a few conference strikers I'd still rather have.

Agreed. There are 3 I want a fair amount.

[Beefy]

I'm going to the cinema tonight but will be online and free pretty much other than that for the rest of the week so happy to take any lists.

[BBF]

Yeah, I'm off work until the season starts so I can take them too.

[The Rosk]

I looked at Reeves and he did score almost all of his goals on a Saturday. He failed to score in something like 34 games for Altrincham last season.

[Bad Collin]

He signed a new deal recently. I wanted him last year as he had a ridiculous record in the leagues below but Grim got there first :( I read at one point a while ago he didn't want to leave Altrincham for the football league when he was scoring 40 goals a season because he was happy in his life earning quite a bit as a successful tradesman.

The other thing that pushed me in his direction was the signing of Rankine who isn't much of a goalscorer. Hopefully he'll be setting them up. My other option was a sentimental choice who could have an amazing season but I had a few nagging doubts.

[Jay]

My other option was a sentimental choice who could have an amazing season but I had a few nagging doubts.Hmm, I wonder who you could possibly be referring to...

[Bad Collin]

Him in the first round, no way! Hopefully he'll still be about late on, he hasn't consistently scored goals for years.

[Gary J]

Apart from the 21 he got last season.

[Torn]

4 names I have left as people I'm happy with drafting in the first round at my spot. 4 people until I pick. Surely not all will go?

[Beefy]

Looks to me that there's five stellar top picks left, all of which could have been picked by now without raising eyebrows, IMO.

If MMH ever got here we'd know.

[son_of_foley]

I have no faith in my list and may go euro

[Reech]

Got my wrists slapped.

[Torn]

I have no faith in my list and may go euro

SOF making a big splash in a post Ronaldo/Messi world

[Bad Collin]

Apart from the 21 he got last season.

Jay wasn't talking about him.

[Gary J]

Well I have my doubts about the guy I was talking about.

[The Rosk]

It's MMH's game and he's not here. What a complete minge.

[MMH]

Martyn Waghorn (Rangers)

[Beefy]

Great pick.

We've all been burnt with Rangers strikers over the last four years but I think this is the the year when they score 800 goals in the league.

That's the first four non-Euro picks on my list taken in order.

[Gary J]

Bastard knew he'd go before my pick

[Torn]

He was the only Scottish player on my list. But I had him lower than you guys seem to have based off of my natural aversion to picking Scottish players.

[Gary J]

Might join SOF in going European now as I have little faith in my domestic list.

[Torn]

Great pick.

We've all been burnt with Rangers strikers over the last four years but I think this is the the year when they score 800 goals in the league.

That's the first four non-Euro picks on my list taken in order.

Warburton will get them playing free flowing attacking football, combined with the quality of their squad all the signs point to that yeah.

2 of my top 4 still available. Convinced they will go before me uh oh.

[Torn]

Wait 1 of my top 4....

Aguero, Rhodes and Rooney were as certain a top 3 as we've had in any number of years I think.

[The Rosk]

6 son_of_foley
7 Gary J
8 BBF
9 Torn
10 Hurley
11 Chris Scott
12 Rip

[Reech]

I'm fucking 19th. This is horrendous.

[son_of_foley]

I pick

Neymar

Sorry lads feels like a dick move

[Gary J]

Terek GazJny picks Will Grigg (Wigan)

1) Will Grigg (Wigan)
2) Diego Costa (Chelsea)

[BBF]

I'd be the one going for BJP.

Big Jon Parkin (Forest Green)
James Constable (Eastleigh)

[Beefy]

I assume we won't get much further. I'm messaging Hurley on Facebook but it's pretty early in Canadaland.

[BBF]

Spotted an error in the draft list. Christopherson and Chris Scott have been swapped as far as I can see.

Can someone confirm thats right before I change it.

[MMH]

Yup they are the wrong way around.

[BBF]

Changed. Wondered how Chris Scott had go such a high position!

[Reech]

I appear to be 19th? It's almost as if I got nothing for trying really hard with the pile of Sancty shit and helping out with the spreadsheet.

[Torn]

Chris Martin (Derby)

[Rip]

Chris Martin (Derby)

My picks always seem to slip under the radar until just before I get them :mad:

[son_of_foley]

My picks always seem to slip under the radar until just before I get them :mad:

Chris Martin isnt under the radar mate.

I only didn't go for him because when I sign derby players like rob hulse they suddenly stop scoring also a little worried about how clement will set us up

[The Rosk]

Come on Hurley you minge. You had one job.

I've got 4 or 5 players left on my first round shortlist. If all go in the next 6 picks I'll be devastated.

[Jay]

Christopherson said he isn't around until about 7:30/8pm anyhow, so I think that's it until tonight.

[Reech]

Someone send me a tweet or PSN message if I'm up tonight. I only browse the forums when I'm at work and shirking.

[Gary J]

Chris Martin isnt under the radar mate.

I only didn't go for him because when I sign derby players like rob hulse they suddenly stop scoring also a little worried about how clement will set us up

I only didn't go for him because I think he'll end up at West Brom if Berahino goes.

[Chris Scott]

Changed. Wondered how Chris Scott had go such a high position!

So first you don't let me have a keeper and now this.

[Chris Scott]

Someone send me a tweet or PSN message if I'm up tonight. I only browse the forums when I'm at work and shirking.

What's your Twitter?


Christopherson said he isn't around until about 7:30/8pm anyhow, so I think that's it until tonight.

Might as well let me go then, it was the original draft order.

[Reech]

What's your Twitter?.

@RichNewbold

[The Rosk]

Lads, not sure why Gabby Agbonlahor hasn't been drafted yet? can you please leave him for me? Thanks.

[BBF]

So first you don't let me have a keeper and now this.

Sorry! :heart:

[Beefy]

Whilst we're waiting... is there an argument for not having any keepers this year? Probably should have been discussed earlier as it impacts drafting strategy (I think there's other players who I could have picked who will outscore Rooney over the next few months but he's a great keeper pick) but just looking at the top three players going all being players we couldn't pick up last year and within a few picks people bemoaning a lack of quality on their list.

Would it help to not have any keepers?

I'm not convinced, I'm just asking the question whilst Hurley sleeps at 10 in the fucking morning.

[BBF]

I don't think so. There is plenty of quality still out there I think.

[Jay]

This is probably the strongest line-up of keepers we've ever had (the one year I don't have one), so that's definitely a factor.

I can see the benefits of no keepers, it'd help to open the game up for everyone, but wiping everyone's teams at the end of the season would take away a lot of the fun. I like trying to sign the next big player, like what was done last year with Afobe and Kane. To have them taken away from you at the end of the season would only piss people off, unless they were relegated, then they'd deserve it.

[Chris Scott]

@RichNewbold

I'm pending.

[Jay]

I'm just asking the question whilst Hurley sleeps at 10 in the fucking morning.
To be fair to Hurley, he was probably up late.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2179155352/kp.png

[Beefy]

I can't see the picture. Is Jay making a gay joke?

[The Rosk]

Every year at the end of the season we look back on the first two rounds of the draft (incl. keepers) and half of them end up shite. I wouldn't worry about it.

[Gary J]

Scrap the keepers and let it be a reward if you win the MMH Cup. Far better reward then a 8th squad member and lets it face it if your team is scoring every week you don't a 8th squad member or euro pick or whatever the reward is these days.

[Jay]

I can't see the picture. Is Jay making a gay joke?
It's just a picture of Karl Pilkington. I'm not Fart Hammer.

[Torn]

Keepers are good. Two keepers was two much but taking a 2nd round pick for one is pretty much the best system we will get imo

[Beefy]

It's just a picture of Karl Pilkington. I'm not Fart Hammer.

INFRACTION.

[The Rosk]

I'm going to ban Hurley.

[Bad Collin]

Maybe it should be a third round pick. Making it the second round takes away the benefit of the snake draft to those at the bottom of the draft list.

[Torn]

Yeah it does fuck with the snake draft to be fair. Alex's second round pick is far less valuable than Reech's for example too.

[Reech]

I'll squander it, don't worry.

[Jay]

To be honest, I thought it was a third round pick. The fact that it's second round is a nice bonus. Makes me feel a bit better about dropping Dangerous Darren in an attempt to beat Alex in the Cup Final.

[BBF]

It always used to be 3

[BBF]

I say always, it was the third round for the first couple of years I played. ALWAYS

[Rip]

Makes more sense at 3

[Beefy]

We had this argument several years ago. I think it should be at 2 because if people are keeping a Sergio Aguero then there should be a high price attached to that. However I think we shouldn't turn the snake back around (for want of a better phrase) that round. I think it is too big an advantage for those at the start of the draft that they pick first in our first two round proper.

So I'd see it as 1-20 in Round One. 1-20 in Round Two (keeper round). Then 20-1 in Round Three.

If we're moving it I'd rather move it to Round One.

[Bad Collin]

Maybe a keeper should take your second and third round picks and have an eighth draft round for those with keepers.

[Torn]

We had this argument several years ago. I think it should be at 2 because if people are keeping a Sergio Aguero then there should be a high price attached to that. However I think we shouldn't turn the snake back around (for want of a better phrase) that round. I think it is too big an advantage for those at the start of the draft that they pick first in our first two round proper.

So I'd see it as 1-20 in Round One. 1-20 in Round Two (keeper round). Then 20-1 in Round Three.

If we're moving it I'd rather move it to Round One.

I think I have argued the same at some point and I agree that it's too big of an advantage but it's hard whichever way you spin it really. For example that method means if you don't have a keeper like Jay you get an early first AND second round picks. And there are some quality players around at the start of the second round too. It's tough.

[MMH]

Dont forget the ones at the bottom of round 2 have Euro picks too. So realistically the top end should have a great keeper who helped them do well last season, a Euro pick and one of the top free agents. Reech (who we are using as the example here) has picks 19 and 21 with no guarentee they will do well.

Its perfectly balanced as it is.

[son_of_foley]

Is it 6hrs or 12?

Hurley makes me sad

[Torn]

Dont forget the ones at the bottom of round 2 have Euro picks too. So realistically the top end should have a great keeper who helped them do well last season, a Euro pick and one of the top free agents. Reech (who we are using as the example here) has picks 19 and 21 with no guarentee they will do well.

Its perfectly balanced as it is.

I'm not sure I follow the argument. Yeah they get that but then an early 3rd round pick which is basically just their second rounder. Rosk for example after the keeper round waits until 56 to pick again after his first rounder which is what BC was getting at earlier. I don't really think there is a much better way that what we do already though, there'll be things like that however you jig it.

COME ON HURLS

[BBF]

HURLEY IS HERE!

I bet I know who he goes for...

[Canuck]

Yeah sorry, I was at work, not sleeping. I start at 7 and for some reason thought that drafting would start noon my time. Sorry lads. I'll have my pick in a couple of minutes.

[Canuck]

I was really hoping to not to this, but I reckon Portsmouth will be better this season and he pretty much gave me all my wins last season so...

Matt Tubbs (Portsmouth)

[Canuck]

FC Hurley

1. Alexis Sanchez (Arsenal)
2. Matt Tubbs (Portsmouth)

[BBF]

Hahaha, I was right

[Chris Scott]

Fucks sake Hurley Montreal are shit and you can't pick DAVID
DESHARNAIS.

[Canuck]

Not really a surprise as he was my keeper up until about a week ago.

[Canuck]

Fucks sake Hurley Montreal are shit and you can't pick DAVID
DESHARNAIS.

I would not pick Desharnais for my beer league. You can have him.

[Chris Scott]

I would not pick Desharnais for my beer league. You can have him.

:lol:

[Beefy]

So now we see if Christopherson love his kids more than he loves us.

[connorboy]

Fuck I totally forgot about this. I better start looking at goalscorers!

[son_of_foley]

Fuck I totally forgot about this. I better start looking at goalscorers!

New approach this year mate?

[son_of_foley]

<\bodybag>

[The Rosk]

Fuck. I wanted Tubbs to come home. Fingers crossed Christopherson picks some strong milkman in Gretna so I get to have one of my remaining 4 picks.

[connorboy]

Fuck I totally forgot about this. I better start looking at goalscorers!

Knew that one was coming

[Christopherson]

I have arrived, you may celebrate. Am I up? Apparently I have 14 pages to read.

[Christopherson]

Give me 10-15 mins.

[Christopherson]

Fuck it, it's the first round and since when do they ever pan out :squint:

He's a bit over hyped (and shit imho but he does seem to score goals) and he's injured and Liverpool got Benteke, but apart from that there's no other drawbacks :rolleyes:

Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool)

Colchrister Rovers

Adam Rooney (Aberdeen)
Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool)



Does it show I have done absolutely no research for this? I just didn't want to default to the Scottish players in the first round, my life is a bit mental at the moment and just couldn't squeeze in any time to check things out.

[Rip]

Ripswich Town are pleased to welcome...

Joe Garner - Preston North End

Ripswich Town

Daryl Murphy (Ipswich)
Joe Garner (PNE)

[Chris Scott]

Bit of a gamble there Christopherson.

[Mikey_Jones]

Mikeybi Haifa are delighted to announce the return of Reuben Reid (Plymouth)

Charlie Austin (QPR)
Reuben Reid (Plymouth)

[BBF]

MMH, I hate to do this to you but APPAZ Wolves have bid £1m for BJA.....

[Bad Collin]

Fuck. I wanted Tubbs to come home. Fingers crossed Christopherson picks some strong milkman in Gretna so I get to have one of my remaining 4 picks.

Me too but there was no way he was surviving until my third round pick

[Chris Scott]

Come on Matthew you tit.

[Matthew]

Matthew Wednesday

Billy Sharp (Sheffield United)

[Mikey_Jones]

ANDY

[MMH]

Matthew Wednesday

Billy Sharp (Sheffield United)

Decent signing that.

[MMH]

Andy picks Olivier Giroud (Arsenal)

[MMH]

MMH, I hate to do this to you but APPAZ Wolves have bid £1m for BJA.....

He's nowhere near good enough for that level!

As long as he plays. I hate the way clubs ruin RFF by signing players and then just putting them on their bench.

[The Rosk]

Can I just double check that is actually Andy's pick and I'm ok to pick now?

[Andy]

Yeah. I had everyone that's been picked apart from two on my list before that, was really hoping Sharp might slip through.

[Andy]

MMH I think I'll send you another list tonight because I'm away from tomorrow afternoon until Sunday evening.

[Bad Collin]

Fucks sake Rosk

[MMH]

Andy picked Giroud yeah

[The Rosk]

Leigh Griffiths (Celtic)
Tom Bradshaw (Walsall)

[Chris Scott]

It's my go.

[The Rosk]

Please pick Balotelli. Or Ebanks Blake.

[The Rosk]

Alright lads, see you in 40 picks time. I predict Friday 18:45.

If any of you want to leave two picks with me I can rush this through for people.

[Torn]

I've got the popcorn ready. A Chris Scott first round pick is a can't miss moment.

[Chris Scott]

Ross McCormack (Fulham)

[connorboy]

Peter Weatherstone (Annan)

[Torn]

zasdfgghhjjjjk

[Chris Scott]

Fuck just seen Ebanks-Blake plays for Chesterfield now.

[Chris Scott]

Please pick Balotelli. Or Ebanks Blake.


I've got the popcorn ready. A Chris Scott first round pick is a can't miss moment.

:D

[Bad Collin]

Good pick Chris

[Mikey_Jones]

Reech, SheltonLondon x2, Reech

[Chris Scott]

I just tweeted Reech. But fuck knows when bluenose will be around. I think that'll be it until Friday. Really slow draft today I think.

[SheltonLondon]

I'm here is Reech about? Just popping to the shop quickly but ready to smash a couple of picks with absolutely no statistical analysis right here.

[SheltonLondon]

I just tweeted Reech. But fuck knows when bluenose will be around. I think that'll be it until Friday. Really slow draft today I think.

Chill Winston!

[Chris Scott]

Good pick Chris

I'll be honest, if no one picked Sturridge, I was going with the Liverpool squad this year. With Aturridge then picking Ings, Coutinho, Roberto Firmino, Origi, Lallana and Baloteli. So yeah my list has been ripped apart.

[Chris Scott]

Chill Winston!

Well in bluenose twat.

[MMH]

make sure to leave your picks with someone if he doesnt turn up!

[RFF Champ]

Can we start trading now? Asking for a friend.

[Rip]

Can we start trading now? Asking for a friend.

Can anyone else spot the obvious flaw in that statement...

[MMH]

You can trade at any time...

[Bad Collin]

Chris, check your PM's. I have an offer for you.

[The Rosk]

Let me guess. His next pick and McCormack for Benteke.

[Bad Collin]

It's a good offer

[SheltonLondon]

Fuck sake well want to make my picks now. Reech not likely to be around tonight?

[The Rosk]

Leave them with me. Have a back up. PM me.

[Andy]

Sent an updated list to MMH, hopefully it sees me through. I'll be back on Sunday, happy drafting folks.

[The Rosk]

Shelton hasn't left one with me lads. Think this might be a long un.

[SheltonLondon]

I'm here on the daily at the minute mate, don't worry. Just trying to work out which order I want my top 3 that I'm going to send over.

[Reech]

Peter Weatherstone (Annan)

Isn't it Weatherson?

[Beefy]

Wait, Andy and Torn are both 26 today. Are they the same person? Twins?

[Bad Collin]

Which one is the sock? I'm guessing Andy.

[Reech]

Rudy Gestede (Blackburn)

[The Rosk]

Shelts gave me three names but I'm unsure of the order... I know he definitely wants Nadir Ciftci (Celtic) as his first one.

[Beefy]

Poor list taking

[The Rosk]

I sent him four PMs.

He sent me three and this is the best I got. I could just choose who is the better option for him.

[Reech]

I have pick #2 ready but I leave for work in 5.

[RFF Champ]

Beebs, I'm off to Cotswold Wildlife Park today so tweet me when it's my go please.

[Rip]

Off out for my middle lads birthday today, can't see it getting round to me though.

[Reech]

Leaving for work, my pick won't be done for another hour once I'm in the office.

[Torn]

Wait, Andy and Torn are both 26 today. Are they the same person? Twins?

I forgot Andy was born on the same day as me. If we're twins he's obviously the spastic one.

[The Rosk]

I have pick #2 ready but I leave for work in 5.

PM me your pick

[Torn]

Isn't it Weatherson?

I find it weird he had signed a player google had literally never heard of to be fair.

[MMH]

Weatherson scored a lot of goals last season.

He is also 35.

[Reech]

PM me your pick

Where's Shelton's 2nd pick?

[Beefy]

I don't understand not knowing the order.

He knew he was up next so hopefully he comes on soon but if he doesn't I think we need to pick one and move on.

[Jay]

Especially after saying this...


Just trying to work out which order I want my top 3 that I'm going to send over.

Surely it's just the next name after Ciftci?

[Reech]

I find it weird he had signed a player google had literally never heard of to be fair.

I only noticed him as he was on my master list of "top scorers per league" I had put together from last season.

[MMH]

Surely when people leave a list its in order of who they want?

[Torn]

Shelton fucking London ladies and gentlemen

[MMH]

he has left a list hasnt he? And he was here all last night...

[Chris Scott]

Remind me not to give my list to rosk.

[BBF]

If he's left a list then the order he typed them is the order he wanted them surely?!

[Reech]

I reckon if he left a list, he'd have ordered by preference.

[Bad Collin]

I am trading Benteke and my 6th draft pick to Chris Scott for McCormack and his 2nd draft pick

[BBF]

Can we ban Chris Scott from making trades?

[Bad Collin]

It's a good deal. Benteke is going to go mental this year.

[BBF]

Its a good deal for you.

[Bad Collin]

It's a good deal for all of us.

[Reech]

Where's Shelton's 2nd pick?

[Torn]

Its a good deal for you.

Well he now has to own Ross McCormack so how good is it really?

[BBF]

It's a good deal for all of us.

I don't see how I benefit at all.

Seems a bit lopsided. You get a 1st and 2nd round pick, Chris gets a (theoretical) 1st and 6th.

[Chris Scott]

Never mind my first picks have you not seen the history of my 2nd picks?

[Beefy]

Lets lay this out:

Chris Scott
Pick 37: Christian Benteke
Pick 57
Pick 64
Pick 97
Pick 104
Pick 117
Pick 137

Bad Collin
Pick 4: Damian Reeves
Pick 17: Ross McCormack
Pick 24
Pick 44
Pick 77
Pick 84
Pick 124

So by the time Chris Scott gets his second pick, Bad Collin has four picks; two first rounders, a second rounder and a high third rounder.

[Bad Collin]

Yeah but one of them is McCormack.

I just remembered how much I hate having Liverpool players in my team. It cheapens Liverpool wins if my RFF player doesn't score.

[BBF]

Lets lay this out:

Chris Scott
Pick 37: Christian Benteke
Pick 57
Pick 64
Pick 97
Pick 104
Pick 117
Pick 137

Bad Collin
Pick 4: Damian Reeves
Pick 17: Ross McCormack
Pick 24
Pick 44
Pick 77
Pick 84
Pick 124

So by the time Chris Scott gets his second pick, Bad Collin has two first rounders and two second rounders.

Its not even Aguero for Balotelli levels of stupid, its just unfair.

[Bad Collin]

Lets lay this out:

Chris Scott
Pick 37: Christian Benteke
Pick 57
Pick 64
Pick 97
Pick 104
Pick 117
Pick 137

Bad Collin
Pick 4: Damian Reeves
Pick 17: Ross McCormack
Pick 24
Pick 44
Pick 77
Pick 84
Pick 124

So by the time Chris Scott gets his second pick, Bad Collin has two first rounders and two second rounders.

Only one second rounder, pick 44 is round three

[Beefy]

Yeah I'd already edited that.

[BBF]

I'd like to hear MMH and Dave's input

[Beefy]

I'd like to hear SheltonLondon's draft pick.

[Jay]

Never mind my first picks have you not seen the history of my 2nd picks?
We've seen the history of all your picks, mate.

[Reech]

I'd like to hear SheltonLondon's draft pick.

+1

[Beefy]

I'd like to hear MMH and Dave's input

To be honest I think if Chris Scott confirms that he is happy even after we've laid out what it makes both his and Bad Collin's draft board look like then we have to accept it and move on.

[BBF]

There was a instance a few years back when MMH veto'd a trade as it was blatantly unfair even though both people were happy.

[Bad Collin]

Remember when we had this uproar for the Lambert/Suarez trade? Suarez scored one goal in ten and bit someone.

[Beefy]

I'd say it is massively one-sided rather than necessarily unfair. Bad Collin benefits more than Chris Scott loses out.

Bad Collin has zero excuse for not winning this year after that trade. Even without the 20 points that Ronaldo and Messi usually give him.

[BBF]

I'd say it is massively one-sided rather than necessarily unfair. Bad Collin benefits more than Chris Scott loses out.

Bad Collin has zero excuse for not winning this year after that trade. Even without the 20 points that Ronaldo and Messi usually give him.

Well yes, lopsided is a better way of putting it.

I don't think we can really factor in Ross McCormack MAYBE hitting a kid with downs syndrome and getting a 12 match ban really.

[Bad Collin]

The draft means nothing in the end anyway

[Beefy]

The draft means nothing in the end anyway

That depends on the manager. Chris Scott doesn't have the best track record of mid-season wheeling and dealing.

[BBF]

Can we just agree next year then that Chris Scott doesn't draft but just gets given the Liverpool squad? He'll only trade his 1st, 2nd and 3rd draft picks for Lucas and a packet of quavers anyway.

[Torn]

It's not that bad for Chris Scott. "Blatently unfair" is an overreaction. A late first and early second for a player that would probably have been picked in the top 5 is decent business. Yeah BC only "paid" a second round pick for a first round talent but that's the keeper system and anyone else can do that too if they want to trade their keepers.

[Beefy]

The Rosk is here to save us from these shenanigans with Shelton's second pick.

[The Rosk]

He sent me this.

I'm looking at Ciftci, then XXX or XXX

So what should I do lads?

Chris Scott you literally handed Beefy the League last year and you're doing it again here. There is nothing in that for you. It is mental.

[Reech]

Pick the first one.

[BBF]

He sent me this.

I'm looking at Ciftci, then XXX or XXX

So what should I do lads?

Chris Scott you literally handed Beefy the League last year and you're doing it again here. There is nothing in that for you. It is mental.

Is one of them obviously a worse pick? Pick that one.

[Bad Collin]

It's not that bad for Chris Scott. "Blatently unfair" is an overreaction. A late first and early second for a player that would probably have been picked in the top 5 is decent business. Yeah BC only "paid" a second round pick for a first round talent but that's the keeper system and anyone else can do that too if they want to trade their keepers.

And that's assuming I don't make a terrible pick in the second round

[The Rosk]

Ross McCormack is 10/1 to be top scorer in the Championship this year.

Christian Benteke is 16/1 to be top scorer in the Premier League this year.

It makes sense that he would want to give away a top draft pick AND a player likely to score more goals to get Benteke. Definitely.

[BBF]

That's assuming I don't make a terrible pick in the second round

Yes but we can't ASSUME you'll make a bad pick or ASSUME your player will do something stupid and get a 10 game ban. We can only look at trades on face value and the trade you've made has been highlighted by at least 3 people now.

[BBF]

If we were making assumptions I'd say Benteke and McCormack would have fairly similar goal returns this season. Which means Chris Scott has got a 6th round pick and lost a 1st round...

[Beefy]

He sent me this.

I'm looking at Ciftci, then XXX or XXX

So what should I do lads?


Just pick the first one.

[The Rosk]

OK. Andre Gray (Brentford)

[Reech]

FUCKERS.

[Reech]

Fuck sake. He's already gone and I didn't spot it.

[The Rosk]

To be fair, Chris Scott has not confirmed it in here yet. We need his confirmation before we allow BC to do this.

[BBF]

Has Matthew left a list with anyone?

[Reech]

Derek Lyle (QotS)