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The Rick
September 15th, 2014, 12:07 AM
The Best Games from the 7th Generation

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16 participants with 95 unique titles voted for. Thank you for your participation.

The Rick
September 15th, 2014, 12:07 AM
Master list


1. Red Dead Redemption
2. Grand Theft Aute: V
3. The Last of Us
4. Portal 2
5. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
6. Batman: Arkham City
7. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
8. Batman: Arkham Asylum
9. Fallout 3
10. Fallout: New Vegas
11. Super Mario Galaxy
12. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
13. Super Mario Galaxy 2
14. Bioshock Infinite
15. The Walking Dead: Season 1
16. Metal Gear Solid 4
17. South Park: The Stick of Truth
18. Mass Effect 2
19. Journey
20 (tied)
-Metal Gear Solid: HD Collection
-The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
22. New Super Mario Bros. Wii
23. (tied) 30 points
-Mario Kart Wii
-The Orange Box
25. (tied) 28 points
-Borderlands 2
-Mass Effect
-Saints Row: The Third

...........
Runners up
28. (tied) 26 points
Fifa
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception
30. (tied) 25 points
Grand Theft Auto IV
Tomb Raider
32. (tied) 23 points
Heavy Rain
Wii Sports
34. (tied) 22 points
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood
Borderlands
38. (tied) 18 points
Little Big Planet 2
Mortal Kombat
36. (tied) 19 points
Gears of War
Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeros
42. (tied) 15 points
Endless Ocean
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
40. (tied) 16 points
Dragon Age: Origins
Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch
44. (tied) 14 points
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Final Fantasy XIII
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
the Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
The Walking Dead: Season 2
49. (tied) 13 points
Battlefield: Bad Company 2
Mass Effect 3
NBA2K
UFC Undisputed 2010
53. (tied) 12 points
Assassin's Creed 2
Pac-Man Championship Edition: DX
55. (tied) 11 points
Bioshock
Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
57. (tied) 10 points
Far Cry 3
Gears of War 2
X-COM
60. (tied) 9 points
F1 2010
halo 4
Warhawk
63. (tied) 8 points
Assassin's Cread: Revelations
Dead Rising
Halo: Reach
punch-Out!!!
SSX
Super Meat Boy
69. (tied) 7 points
Bayonetta
Darksiders 2
Flower
Hitman: Blood Money
Record of Agarest War
The Wolf Among us
75. (tied) 6 points
Call of Duty: Black ops 2
Diablo 3
Dragon Age: Awakening
Gears of War 3
Infamous 2
Super Street Fighter IV
81. (tied) 5 points
Need for Speed: Most Wanted
The Witcher 2
Tiger Woods
84. (tied) 4 points
Burnout Paradise
Limbo
Shadow of the Colossus HD
Transformers: Fall of Cybertron
88. (tied) 3 points
Dynasty Warriors 6
Forza 2
Minecraft
Peggle
Resident Evil: the Darkside Chronicles
Sleeping Dogs
the Cave
Unreal tournament 3

The Rick
September 15th, 2014, 12:10 AM
We will explore the top 25 games, but there is a 3-way tie for the 25th spot. I'm getting one done tonight, and will have the other two out tomorrow. From then on, only one title will be revealed each day through the weekdays.

The Rick
September 15th, 2014, 12:16 AM
# 25 (Tied)
Saints Row: The Third

http://img.ozgameshop.com/pc_and_video_games/games/xbox_360/saints_row_the_third_3_4_raw.jpg

Developed By: Volition
Published By: THQ
Produced By: Greg Donovan
Directed By: Scott Phillips
Release Date: November 15, 2011
Points: 28
Highest vote: 3rd
By: Excel


Game Review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJw3zNDEnDU


Runners-Up
88. (tied) 3 points
Dynasty Warriors 6
Forza 2
Minecraft
Peggle
Resident Evil: the Darkside Chronicles
Sleeping Dogs
the Cave
Unreal tournament 3

Psycho666Soldier
September 15th, 2014, 2:12 AM
Not surprised I'm the only one who voted for Dynasty Warriors 6. I know most people probably don't care for that series anymore, but as a huge fan of the series, that game has to be the absolute best. I spent so much damn time on that game, and enjoyed every second of it, so it had to be on my list. Wait...how did the points work again? Does 15 only equal 1 point or 3 points? Maybe someone else did appreciate it!

From the little bit I played, the Saints Row games were fun. The only one that had enough substance to hook me was 2, and I never had enough time to properly play it through. I rented it at the same time I rented some other game I deemed more important. Never rent more than one game for only a few days if you can't make the time.

The Rick
September 15th, 2014, 8:42 AM
Titles get points according to where they fell on your list. 1st gets 15, while 15th gets 1. Then a title gets 2 points per list it appears on. It usually helps break up some ties, but with only 16 lists we will have a few tied spots.

Atty
September 15th, 2014, 8:59 AM
2 points per list they appear on is brilliant.

I'll talk about it later, but the most I tasked on this was whether to have Mass Effect or Mass Effect 3 in what spot. I kept swapping them (they're not directly right next to each other) and ended with the original higher but thinking the FINAL version of 3 (all the DLC and fixed endings) is the superior game. The complete final version of ME3 I'd hold against anything on the list but it's hard to rank as a standalone as enjoyment is largely dependent on how it plays off what you did in the previous two games. It's a strange dynamic that I can't think of any other game really having. ME2 carried on your save/character but that had the epic start that would let new players enter the work. 3 is like if a Metroid game just said GO at the start and you had all your upgrades and what you did previously changed the game mightily.

Beefy
September 15th, 2014, 9:02 AM
Never played any of the Saints Row games. I think I've got 3 and 4 on PS+ (or is it 2 & 3?). Might give them a go before I upgrade.

Was I the only person who voted for Sleeping Dogs then? I know it is not as polished as GTA but I had a lot of fun with that game.

EDIT - I was the only person who voted for it then.

Dreyski
September 15th, 2014, 3:02 PM
Whoops - thought I voted for sleeping dogs, but must have forgotten about it as I deleted it after getting the platinum medal, and used my games list rather than my trophy list.

Anyway - Saints Row the 3rd - like a GTA with everything turned up to 11. Only complaint is the difficulty on some of the side missions.

Psycho666Soldier
September 15th, 2014, 3:32 PM
One thing that I liked with Saints Row 2 compared to GTA IV and V was it really felt like it picked up the ball that Rockstar dropped with the loss of the campiness and with no progression of the aspects they introduced in San Andreas. SR2 had the customization and character-building and most importantly for me, the territory system that was one of my favorite parts of San Andreas. I really wish I put more time into that game. Probably would have made my list if I bothered to play it more.

The_Mike
September 15th, 2014, 5:06 PM
Bugger, I don't think I put Saints Row 3 on my list because I played it only on the PC, but it was a blast. I felt that it was basically the proper sequel to San Andreas, going further with all the mad and cool stuff from the GTA games while GTA got all stuffy. I own a bloody tower block and can fly a jet off my penthouse patio, land in a park miles away and smack some gangs to death with a giant purple dildo. What's not to like? Being a grumpy gamer, it's a bit surprising that something so silly would appeal to me, but it always put a smile on my face by just being a fun, madcap sandbox.

The Rogerer
September 15th, 2014, 5:09 PM
Saints Row 3 was a great companion for me over a very bleak christmas. I played the arse off of it, alongside Skyrim, and it never stopped being fun*. I hadn't played Saints Row 2, which some people hold more dear, so a lot of it possibly seemed newer to me. Saints Row 4 adds the superpowers and feels too much like the retread that it is. 3 was the perfect storm for me. That was actually a great christmas looking back.

*until the very disappointing DLC. One of these days I'll heed my own lesson and never buy DLC again. It's either rubbish or just doesn't add on to the game properly.

Excel
September 15th, 2014, 5:09 PM
Saints row 3 was fucking awesome. It's rare that I've had such a pure fun experience playing a game. Disappointed it's not higher.

Bad Collin
September 15th, 2014, 5:42 PM
I never got into Saints Row 3. I played it for about ten hours but always found it a bit dull.

Sleeping dogs was great but it didn't make my top fifteen.

Forza 2 was my vote. I spend hundreds of hours playing that. It was the first driving sim I had which featured Ferrari's; the 360 Modena and the F40 were great fun.

The Rick
September 15th, 2014, 6:15 PM
# 25 (Tied)
Mass Effect

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Developed By: BioWare
Publisher: Microsoft Game Studios
Director: Casey Hudson
Points: 28
Release Date: November 16, 2007
Platforms: Xbox 360, Playstation 3, Microsoft Windows
Highest vote: 3rd
By: Atty

Game Review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIFojY2Ceow


Runners-up
84. (tied) 4 points
Burnout Paradise
Limbo
Shadow of the Colossus HD
Transformers: Fall of Cybertron

The_Mike
September 15th, 2014, 6:39 PM
Boo, Mass Effect, boo!

Pablo Diablo
September 15th, 2014, 6:39 PM
The goddamn Mako.

Bert
September 15th, 2014, 6:46 PM
Mass Effect
Highest vote: 3rd
By: Atty

That doesn't sound right. Maybe you should recheck.

Bad Collin
September 15th, 2014, 6:52 PM
I liked Mass Effect but it took me ages to finish. With all three ME games I would not play them for months, I still haven't finished ME3. None of them made my list. I feel like that is wrong but I just enjoyed fifteen games more.

The Rick
September 15th, 2014, 8:30 PM
That doesn't sound right. Maybe you should recheck.

Re-checked it. Only two people voted for the 1st one. I'm right.


BTW: I never got a list from you. :squint:
couldn't take an hour out of your blood feud down in the ramble thread huh?

Atty
September 15th, 2014, 8:33 PM
Of course not.

Atty
September 15th, 2014, 8:35 PM
Well, this would be funny if I had left it number one...

The Rick
September 15th, 2014, 8:42 PM
# 25 (Tied)
Borderlands 2

https://downloads.2kgames.com/2kgames/uploads/images/community/bl2boxes-15071-cropped.jpg

Developed By: Gearbox Software
Published by: 2K Games
Distributor: Take-Two Interactive
Director: Paul Hellquist
Producer: Sean Reardon, Matt Charles
Release date: September 18, 2012
Platforms: Microsoft Windows, OS X, Linux (planned), PlayStation 3, PlayStation Vita, Xbox 360
Points: 28
Highest vote: 7th
By: Mr Sabu

Game Review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzfNENqnpb8


Runners-up
81. (tied) 5 points
Need for Speed: Most Wanted
The Witcher 2
Tiger Woods

The Rick
September 15th, 2014, 8:55 PM
I really tried to put this higher myself, but the games this generation were so good. I played Borderlands 2 until my group moved on from it. It is a great game to screw about with you friends, but it was just okay as a single player experience imo. The Mr. Torgue's Campaign of Carnage was the best piece of DLC I've played on anything thus far. I laughed at so many of the little quips here and there from Torgue. The missions were fun, and I blazed through it twice.


here was my final list

1. Call of Duty: Modern warfare 2
2. The Last of Us
3. Journey
4. Red Dead Redemption
5. Portal 2
6. Pac-man Championship edition: DX
7. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
8. Borderlands 2
9. The Walking Dead: Season 1
10. Little Big Planet 2
11. Flower
12. Batman: Arkham Asylum
13. South Park and the Stick of Truth
14. Burnout Paradise
15. Peggle

mr sabu
September 15th, 2014, 8:58 PM
it is better in co-op but i like doing the occassional challenge runs

1 life to live ( if you character dies it gets deleted ) and scavenger runs ( cant use gun vendors or buy ammo everything must be looted )

Dreyski
September 16th, 2014, 2:35 PM
I played through it once but I ground to a halt fighting Madame Von Bartelsby the second time round. 1 life to life sounds bloody mental (maybe better if you're the siren or ninja). Love the randomness of some of the guns that pop up, though, and the look of the graphics that convey so much of the life of Pandora.

The Rick
September 16th, 2014, 2:44 PM
# 23 (Tied)
The Orange Box

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Developer: Valve Corporation (Windows and Xbox 360), Electronic Arts (Playstation 3)
Publisher: Valve Corporation
Release Date: October 9, 2007
Platform: Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, Mac OS X, Linux
Points: 30
Highest vote: 2nd
By: Morrison

Game Review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue4Z1rY-p5I


Runners-up
75. (tied) 6 points
Call of Duty: Black ops 2
Diablo 3
Dragon Age: Awakening
Gears of War 3
Infamous 2
Super Street Fighter IV

Excel
September 16th, 2014, 4:44 PM
Portal seems so long ago. What a surprise that game was though

Bert
September 16th, 2014, 11:59 PM
Re-checked it. Only two people voted for the 1st one. I'm right.


BTW: I never got a list from you. :squint:
couldn't take an hour out of your blood feud down in the ramble thread huh?

Were PC games included in this?

Atty
September 17th, 2014, 12:10 AM
If they were on one of the 7th Generation consoles, yes.

Morrison
September 17th, 2014, 12:32 AM
i had portal at number 2, and chose to count it toward the orange box instead of removing it and replacing it with another game.

Dreyski
September 17th, 2014, 3:06 PM
For about 30 seconds I was thinking how Infamous 2 was lower than I expected, but then I realised that it was Playstation only. Then I decided it should have been higher regardless.
Orange box is also lower than I thought, given most people's Portal love. 5 games of such quality is stunning value, especially becuase I picked it up second hand for £10. Still have to play episode 1 and 2, mind.

Beefy
September 17th, 2014, 3:09 PM
I'm playing Infamous 2 at the minute. It is pretty good.

Dreyski
September 17th, 2014, 3:28 PM
Take the evil route, the final mission is damn poignant when you have to kill Zeke

The Rick
September 17th, 2014, 8:31 PM
# 23 (Tied)
Mario Kart Wii

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2008/04/mario_kart_eu_box_cg_main99.jpg

Developer: Nintendo EAD Group No. 1
Publisher: Nintendo
Director: Yasuyuki Oyagi
Producer: Hideki Konno
Platforms: Wii
Release date: April 10, 2008
Points: 30
Highest vote: 2nd
By: The_Mike

Game Review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbXRCm8wCmc


Runners-up
69. (tied) 7 points
Bayonetta
Darksiders 2
Flower
Hitman: Blood Money
Record of Agarest War
The Wolf Among us

Fro
September 17th, 2014, 8:53 PM
This game was great and made my list. It's not one of my favorite Karts but it was very solid. I never really got the online mode to work smoothly but it seems that a lot of people did get deep into it.

The Rick
September 18th, 2014, 1:33 AM
I was pretty sure my vote would be the sole vote for Peggle, but I really thought that there would be at least one more vote for Flower. Such a great experience in a game. Flying around the environments was so relaxing, and rewarding. You can almost see where inspirations from Flower lead to Journey.

Kdestiny
September 18th, 2014, 2:08 AM
First game on the list, wasn't Mario Kart though. I really liked the Wolf Among Us

Atty
September 18th, 2014, 12:30 PM
Bayonetta at 69 seems a crime. It missed out on my final cut but was one of the most fun games that I played this generation.

Bert
September 18th, 2014, 5:28 PM
I was pretty sure my vote would be the sole vote for Peggle, but I really thought that there would be at least one more vote for Flower. Such a great experience in a game. Flying around the environments was so relaxing, and rewarding. You can almost see where inspirations from Flower lead to Journey.

I had a lot of fun with Peggle, on PC. :squint:

Atty
September 18th, 2014, 5:34 PM
Fuck off, Bert.

The Rick
September 18th, 2014, 6:16 PM
I had a lot of fun with Peggle, on PC. :squint:

*edit*
the previous comment was snarky, and not needed.

Yes you liked Peggle on the PC, but I didn't touch it until it hit PS3. When I touched it, I had to finish it. Only when I had lost a particular level multiple times, did I play another game.

The Rick
September 18th, 2014, 6:26 PM
# 22
New Super Mario Bros. Wii

http://mariotoys.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/3badc537.jpg

Developer: Nintendo EAD Group No. 4
Publisher: Nintendo
Director: Shigeyuki Asuke
Producer: Takashi Tezuka, Hiroyuki Kimura
Platforms: Wii
Release date: November 11, 2009
Points: 31
Highest vote: 4th
By: Fro

Game Review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN9oOiKyDro


Runners-up
63. (tied) 8 points
Assassin's Cread: Revelations
Dead Rising
Halo: Reach
punch-Out!!!
SSX
Super Meat Boy

Beefy
September 18th, 2014, 10:21 PM
What was new about it?

Atty
September 18th, 2014, 10:53 PM
Loved this game. It was one of the ten games I had ranked at 16, but I absolutely loved this game.

Fro
September 18th, 2014, 11:00 PM
yes loved it and loved going back and getting all the big coins and beating the secret world.

Atty
September 18th, 2014, 11:06 PM
Bowser was brilliant in this. With this, Galaxy 2 and 3D World, they've had quite a run of brilliant Bowser battles.

Mark Hammer
September 19th, 2014, 6:15 AM
Mario Kart Wii made my list. The steering wheel added to the experience and I had more fun playing that with friends and online than I did any other game in the series.

New Super Mario Wii made my list as well.

Mark Hammer
September 19th, 2014, 6:17 AM
What was new about it?

It was a new game when it came out.

Beefy
September 19th, 2014, 6:19 AM
Ok, it was a genuine question though as someone who hadn't played it.

Mark Hammer
September 19th, 2014, 6:24 AM
Multiplayer was amazing. The best part about it was you could physically interact with the other players. Throwing them into pits, tossing turtle shells, etc.

The Rick
September 19th, 2014, 6:36 PM
# 20 (tied)
The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword

http://pics.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/1321781657-01.jpg


Developer: Nintendo EAD, Monolith Soft
Publisher: Nintendo
Director: Hidemaro Fujibayashi
Producer: Eiji Aonuma
Platform: Wii
Release date: November 18, 2011
Points: 36
Highest vote: 3rd
By: Psycho666soldier

Game Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfRiK5I1nIY


Runners-up
60. (tied) 9 points
F1 2010
halo 4
Warhawk

Beefy
September 19th, 2014, 7:15 PM
:heart: Warhawk

The Rick
September 19th, 2014, 7:26 PM
:heart: Warhawk

I know you do buddy. Did you ever try Starhawk? I think the multiplayer went free to play a year ago or so.

Atty
September 19th, 2014, 7:29 PM
Skyward Sword is so great and underrated/overlooked. I do fear that it will become a forgotten gem as its controls are so Wii specific that it'll be harder to go back to on future console. Like, they won't be able to put it on all kinds of formats for re-re-release like they did with Ocarina without completely altering the controls. It does a lot of cool little things in the story that apply to the Zelda mythos as a whole and I loved the redressing of environments throughout the game, with the structure making each area like a dungeon on its own.

One of my favorite games.

The_Mike
September 19th, 2014, 8:08 PM
I had a lot of fun with Peggle, on PC. :squint:

There's nothing PC about you, Bert.

Just kidding. I got Peggle on Origin for free for some reason, it's a true gem.

Psycho666Soldier
September 20th, 2014, 3:59 AM
What'd you have Skyward Sword ranked at, Atty?

Atty
September 20th, 2014, 10:45 AM
10.

My 9-1 had three Mass Effect games, two Batmans, a BioShock, Portal 2, The Last of Us and Uncharted 2. I just couldn't sneak Skyward past them, but that's in no way a knock as all those games are super epic/legendary.

Bad Collin
September 20th, 2014, 11:23 AM
Never played Zelda or Mario.

F1 2010 was my vote. It was massively flawed but it was the first F1 game for ages and it looked and played great.

The Rick
September 22nd, 2014, 2:37 PM
# 20 (tied)
Metal Gear Solid: HD Collection

http://meodia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/1334833980_metalgearsolidhdcollectionxbox360.jpg


Developer(s) Kojima Productions, Bluepoint Games (Metal Gear Solid 2 & 3 port), Genki (Peace Walker port), Armature Studio (PlayStation Vita version), Aspect Co. (Metal Gear & Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake port)
Publisher: Konami
Director: Hideo Kojima
Producer: Hideo Kojima
Platforms: PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, PlayStation Vita
Release date: November 8, 2011
Points: 36
Highest vote: 1st
By: Stan Accy

Game Review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvi9ZpuPdvA


Runners-up
57. (tied) 10 points
Far Cry 3
Gears of War 2
X-COM

Kdestiny
September 22nd, 2014, 2:50 PM
Shocked that Far Cry 3 wasn't top 15 let alone not even top 50. Fantastic game.

Psycho666Soldier
September 22nd, 2014, 3:17 PM
Love the MGS games, but I really don't like voting for collections of older games. Deserving on any list, but I feel like it took a spot from other deserving games.

Dreyski
September 22nd, 2014, 4:32 PM
I'm not sorry one bit.
I've already talked about MGS3 in the PS2 best games thread, but I've put so much time into Peace Walker recently, seeing as how it ties into Ground Zeroes (and Phantom Pain). Amazing to think the most in-depth MGS game yet was originally on the PSP.

Excel
September 22nd, 2014, 7:29 PM
Mgs3 is the greatest game ever. I feel it was dragged down on this list by the other two in the collection

Atty
September 22nd, 2014, 8:06 PM
I did not include any past generation collections or HD remasters. It's precisely the same as voting for Mario All Stars on basically any of these lists.

Beefy
September 23rd, 2014, 4:26 AM
I kinda half-way housed it. MGS 3 is my favourite game ever and I love the HD Collection but didn't feel able to put it towards the top of my list. But didn't want to leave it off altogether so it is in the middle somewhere I think.

The Rick
September 23rd, 2014, 3:02 PM
# 19
Journey

http://vgboxart.com/boxes/PS3/44166-journey.png?t=1315696459

Developer: Thatgamecompany
Publisher: Sony Computer Entertainment
Director: Jenova Chen
Producer: Robin Hunicke
Designer: Nicholas Clark, Bryan Singh, Chris Bell
Artist: Matt Nava, Aaron Jessie
Composer: Austin Wintory
Platform: PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4
Release date: March 13, 2012
Points: 37
Highest vote: 1st
By: Beefy

Game Review


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z-tteJNDoc

Runners-up
55. (tied) 11 points
Bioshock
Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition

Beefy
September 23rd, 2014, 3:57 PM
Top three game of all time, IMO. Amazing piece of work which made me rethink everything I took for granted about video games,

LOCONUT
September 23rd, 2014, 4:20 PM
I didn't "get" it.

Excel
September 23rd, 2014, 4:33 PM
Neither did I. But then I only played the demo.

Morrison
September 23rd, 2014, 10:47 PM
i want desperately to play through MGS3, but the controls are just something i can't wrap my head around at this stage. i picked up the HD collection specifically for snake eater, and never made it very far, cause i found it a struggle to have any fun, cause i felt incredibly awkward the entire time. it's unfortunate.

Excel
September 24th, 2014, 2:35 AM
I really recommend you take the time to just get used to them. The game is really really worth it.

Morrison
September 24th, 2014, 2:56 AM
i'm sure i'll try again at some point, that's the pull of MGS3's reputation.

Dreyski
September 24th, 2014, 3:24 PM
Yeah, the survival viewer and camo index are tricky to get the hang of and can make the game very stop-start. Once you get the hang of it, it's hardly noticable. I hardly ever bother with camo/facepaint now, apart from the COBRA/Volgin/Boss fights.

Morrison
September 24th, 2014, 3:38 PM
i didn't even get to a place where any of that was a factor. i just couldn't get a handle on the actual movement and combat controls, and the camera. everything felt so clunky, trying to shoot one enemy felt like the biggest chore in the world cause i didn't know how to properly aim and the button configuration didn't feel natural, and i felt like the camera was working against me. it just didn't provide enough of a fun experience for me to push through that early part, which is in contrast to something like shadow of the colossus, where when i first started that, i had some difficulty figuring out the mechanics and obviously how to take down the enemies, but the learning curve/process was fun.

The Rick
September 24th, 2014, 6:19 PM
i'm sure i'll try again at some point, that's the pull of MGS3's reputation.

Try the peace Walker game. It has better controls, but worse graphics. It didn't make the console leap like its PS2 brethren. It might be top 2 or 3 in the whole series.

The Rick
September 24th, 2014, 6:28 PM
# 18
Mass Effect 2

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--A8u8hC6G--/18j48m1xxu63zjpg.jpg

Developer: BioWare
Publisher: Electronic Arts
Director: Casey Hudson
Producer: Jesse Houston, Nathan Plewes
Designer: Preston Watamaniuk
Programmer: David Falkner
Artist: Derek Watts
Writer: Mac Walters, Drew Karpyshyn
Composer: Jack Wall, Jimmy Hinson, Sam Hulick, David Kates
Platforms: Microsoft Windows, Xbox 360, PlayStation 3
Release date: January 26, 2010
Points: 41
Highest vote: 1st
By: Atty

Game Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdqdK4XnN8A


Runners-up
53. (tied) 12 points
Assassin's Creed 2
Pac-Man Championship Edition: DX

The Rick
September 24th, 2014, 6:36 PM
Also how do you guys leave Pac-Man Championship Edition: DX off of your lists? :squint:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Cjz4EuGBrw



Of all of the games on this list(and thus the runners-up side), I would recommend this one to anyone anywhere anyhow. Go play this game if you haven't.

Atty
September 24th, 2014, 10:45 PM
ME2 AT 18?! OUTRAGE!

Pablo Diablo
September 24th, 2014, 11:47 PM
And why should I get Pac-Man Rick? What is so special about it? Is it worth my remaining steam dollars? Is the extra DLC worth it?

Beefy
September 25th, 2014, 12:53 AM
I tried the PacMan demo and enjoyed it but have never seen it at a price where it has felt worth the plunge. Like NBA Jam actually. They need to do something about still charging full price for years old PSN games.

Morrison
September 25th, 2014, 1:10 AM
Try the peace Walker game. It has better controls, but worse graphics. It didn't make the console leap like its PS2 brethren. It might be top 2 or 3 in the whole series.

i think i might pick this up on the vita, soon. graphics are literally one of my very least concerns with a game at this point in my life, so tighter controls over graphics is welcome.

The Rick
September 25th, 2014, 3:30 PM
And why should I get Pac-Man Rick? What is so special about it? Is it worth my remaining steam dollars? Is the extra DLC worth it?

Well Atty said it was free on the Steam, so I don't know. check it out for that price.

The Rick
September 25th, 2014, 3:39 PM
# 17
South Park: The Stick of Truth

http://daxgamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/South-Park-The-Stick-of-Truth-box-art-630x724.jpg

Developer: Obsidian Entertainment, South Park Digital Studios
Publisher: Ubisoft
Director: Chris Brion, Chris Parker, Zane Lyon
Producer: Todd Benson, Matthew Singh
Designer: Matt MacLean
Programmer: Dan Spitzley
Artist: Brian Menze
Writer: Trey Parker, Matt Stone, Eric Fenstermaker
Composer: Jamie Dunlap
Platform: Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360
Release date: March 4, 2014
Points: 42
Highest vote: 5th
By: Mr Sabu

Game Review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYQtrS9CEeI


Runners-up
49. (tied) 13 points
Battlefield: Bad Company 2
Mass Effect 3
NBA2K
UFC Undisputed 2010

Kdestiny
September 25th, 2014, 4:06 PM
Had a lot of fun with Stick of Truth. Liked it a lot more than I thought I would and it made my list

The Rick
September 26th, 2014, 2:41 PM
# 16
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/4/4b/20140221102928!Mgs4us_cover_small.jpg

Developer: Kojima Productions
Publisher: Konami
Director: Hideo Kojima, Shuyo Murata
Producer: Hideo Kojima,Kenichiro Imaizumi
Artist: Yoji Shinkawa
Writer: Hideo Kojima, Shuyo Murata
Composer: Harry Gregson-Williams, Nobuko Toda
Release date: June 12, 2008
Points: 47
Highest vote: 9th
By: Goldberg's Best Friend, Morrison, Psycho666soldier

Game Review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r83H7ry2LiY


Runners-up
44. (tied) 14 points
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
Final Fantasy XIII
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
the Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
The Walking Dead: Season 2

Pablo Diablo
September 26th, 2014, 3:16 PM
Well Atty said it was free on the Steam, so I don't know. check it out for that price.

It's not free for me for some reason. Likely I'm just missing the obvious place for it to be free.

Psycho666Soldier
September 26th, 2014, 8:44 PM
MGS 4 was an excellent game. Not the best in the series, but it was such a fitting climax to the Solid Snake anthology. I could have done with a bit more action, and the game loses points for not being as appealing to people who haven't played the series before it, but the mechanics of the game were top-notch. I loved the improvement on the crawling and the camo system. It was definitely a strong reason to own a PS4 in the first few years.

The Rick
September 29th, 2014, 2:38 PM
# 15
The Walking Dead: Season 1

http://i.testfreaks.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/SF19746.jpg

Developer: Telltale Games
Publisher: Telltale Games, Sony Computer Entertainment (Vita)
Directors: Sean Vanaman, Jake Rodkin, Dennis Lenart, Eric Parsons, Nick Herman, Sean Ainsworth
Designers: Sean Vanaman, Jake Rodkin, Mark Darin, Harrison G. Pink, Andrew Langley, Sean Ainsworth
Writer: Sean Vanaman, Mark Darin, Gary Whitta
Composer: Jared Emerson-Johnson
Platforms: Android, iOS, Kindle Fire HDX, Mac OS X, Microsoft Windows, Ouya, PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, PlayStation Vita, Xbox 360, Xbox One
Release date: December 11, 2012
Points: 51
Highest vote: 2nd
By: kdestiny

Game Review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYtBU-6aBvM


Runners-up
42. (tied) 15 points
Endless Ocean
Super Smash Bros. Brawl

40. (tied) 16 points
Dragon Age: Origins
Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch

Kdestiny
September 29th, 2014, 3:03 PM
I love games that take me on an emotional roller coaster and this did just that.

The Rick
September 29th, 2014, 6:17 PM
I had it at 9 on my list. There were just too many great games this generation for me. The only two games I might have bumped down the list were Borderlands 2 and Pac-Man CE:DX. I just played those way more, and with friends.

The Rick
September 29th, 2014, 11:43 PM
I kinda sad to say that I still haven't played Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch. It is one of the many games in my back catalog, and one I've looked at many many times. It just hasn't gotten done.

Atty
September 29th, 2014, 11:52 PM
Dragon Age: Origins at 40 is a testament to this generation. It's absolutely fantastic but 40 is probably about the right place. So much depth.

The Rick
September 30th, 2014, 3:15 PM
# 14
Bioshock Infinite

http://3ebd2a0c0ea48a333aea-1f531def8e8befb67be56667ce3edd11.r77.cf1.rackcdn.c om/58928c735627ceb32ad3ba741575fc1504811227.jpg__620x 730_q85_crop_upscale.jpg

Developer: Irrational Games[a]
Publisher: 2K Games
Distributor: Take-Two Interactive
Director: Ken Levine
Producer: Adrian Murphy
Programmer: Christopher Kline
Artist: Scott Sinclair
Writer: Ken Levine
Composer: Garry Schyman, Jim Bonney
Platform: Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, OS X
release date: March 26, 2013
Points: 55
Highest vote: 3rd
By: Stan Accy

Game Review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jchIi-vR_js


Runners-up
38. (tied) 18 points
Little Big Planet 2
Mortal Kombat

36. (tied) 19 points
Gears of War
Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeros

Psycho666Soldier
September 30th, 2014, 3:20 PM
I would say I'm surprised Mortal Kombat didn't make the list, but then again I don't think fighting games are too popular on these boards. From a mechanics standpoint, it was the best game in the whole series, and a triumphant return to quality. I think it beat out Street Figter IV and MVC 3, and I always preferred those games over MK. Shame it didn't make the cut here.

Then again, I never got around to playing any of the Bioshocks except for about an hour of the first one, so people might chastise me for not having this on my list. It's a part of large back catalog to keep me entertained for ages.

Bert
September 30th, 2014, 4:48 PM
I kinda sad to say that I still haven't played Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch. It is one of the many games in my back catalog, and one I've looked at many many times. It just hasn't gotten done.

Mine is still in the plastic wrap after I bought it from Gamestop.

One of these days...

The Rick
September 30th, 2014, 6:47 PM
Games are just a form of entertainment. There are shit loads of movies, tv shows, books, and bands that I have lined up to partake in. I've accepted that I'm not going to get to it all. There are still those games that I absolutely want to get back to. Ni No Kuni is towards the top of that list. A proper play of Mass Effect is on there too.

Atty
September 30th, 2014, 11:35 PM
BioShock Infinite is one of the best games I've ever played. All around, it's about perfect in my view.

I think I spoiled myself last Christmas by playing that and The Last of Us back to back.

Cewsh
September 30th, 2014, 11:43 PM
I agree with Atty about 2 things on this Earth. They are Mass Effect 2 and Bioshock Infinite.

Atty
October 1st, 2014, 10:30 AM
And that Cena sucks.

Kdestiny
October 1st, 2014, 10:46 AM
Absolutely right. Bioshock Infinite was not only fun for me to play, but it was pretty looking and I was hooked onto their story. Loved the game and I am even playing through the main story for a fourth time now.

The Rick
October 1st, 2014, 7:20 PM
# 13
Super Mario Galaxy 2

http://www.thetanooki.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Super-Mario-Galaxy-boxart-us-and-japan-640x397.jpg

Developer: Nintendo EAD Tokyo
Publisher: Nintendo
Director: Koichi Hayashida
Producer: Yoshiaki Koizumi, Takashi Tezuka
Designer: Kenta Motokura
Artist: Daisuke Watanabe
Composer: Mahito Yokota, Ryo Nagamatsu, Koji Kondo
Platforms: Wii
Release date: May 23, 2010
Points: 58
Highest vote: 2nd
By: Goldberg's Best Friend

Game Review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yat9LvFtixs


Runners-up
34. (tied) 22 points
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood
Borderlands

32. (tied) 23 points
Heavy Rain
Wii Sports

The Rogerer
October 2nd, 2014, 6:04 PM
Ni No Kuni is very slow, and has a very awkward battle system. It's a shame because I was expecting something like Dragon Quest, but it's story is glacial in comparison and it's a weird real time fighting system that never felt enjoyable, and that's before AI partners get involved and make a mess.

The Rick
October 2nd, 2014, 6:46 PM
# 12
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

http://greleases.com/bg_bilder/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2-ps3-boxart.jpg

Developer: Infinity Ward, Aspyr (Mac)
Publisher: Activision, Square Enix (JP)
Director: Jason West
Producer: Mark Rubin
Designer: Todd Alderman, Steve Fukuda, Mackey McCandlish, Zied Rieke, Mohammad Alavi, Jon Porter
Artist: Richard Kriegler (Art Director)
Writer: Jesse Stern
Composer: Hans Zimmer, Lorne Balfe
Platforms: Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, OS X
Release date: November 10, 2009
Points: 59
Highest vote: 1st
By: The Rick

Game Review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DtOrgw_nXI


Runners-up
30. (tied) 25 points
Grand Theft Auto IV
Tomb Raider

The Rick
October 2nd, 2014, 6:52 PM
You can call me crazy to put this at the top of my list. I profess myself as someone who generally doesn't like shooters too. This game hooked me so bad. I've never had so many gaming laughs with friends, or damned frustrating moments when getting taken out like a bitch. The multiplayer was so balanced, and and done so well. The maps were some so great, and now I can't say that I hate any of them. Derail is probably my least favorite, but it allows for some of the best strategical planning if you have an attentive group. The DLC packs were pretty damned good too. I ended up getting Black Ops and MW3, but they didn't hold a candle to the fun I had on this game.

I put more time in this game than any other in the whole generation.

Kdestiny
October 2nd, 2014, 6:53 PM
Definitely the best of the Modern Warfare series, but did not make my list

Morrison
October 3rd, 2014, 2:21 PM
i had MW2 pretty high. i've said it before, but i logged days into MW2, and while i've gotten every single COD game since, each year since MW2 my time played has lessened. i actually had battlefield: bad company 2 higher on my list, but i only ever played the multiplayer for that, whereas MW2 was great all around.

The Rick
October 3rd, 2014, 3:14 PM
# 11
Super Mario Galaxy

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/03/smg.box.art.full-3252010-580px.jpg

Developer: Nintendo EAD Tokyo[1]
Publisher: Nintendo
Director: Yoshiaki Koizumi
Producer: Shigeru Miyamoto, Takao Shimizu
Designer: Koichi Hayashida
Artist: Kenta Motokura
Writer: Takayuki Ikkaku
Composer: Mahito Yokota, Koji Kondo
Platforms: Wii
Release date: November 1, 2007
Points: 60
Highest vote: 1st
By: Fro

Game Review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg-0ff7L7hw


Runners-up
28. (tied) 26 points
Fifa
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception

Mark Hammer
October 4th, 2014, 3:25 PM
MW2 made my list. Like others I wasted days on multiplayer. So much fun yet so much frustration.

The Rick
October 6th, 2014, 2:04 PM
# 10
http://hd.wallpaperswide.com/thumbs/fallout_new_vegas_logo-t2.jpg


http://www.consolegames.ro/forum/attachments/f60-console-club/60427d1273769883-fallout-new-vegas-fnv-allboxes-3d-sm.jpg

Developer: Obsidian Entertainment
Publisher: Bethesda Softworks (US, UK, JP, ROI), Namco Bandai Games (EU, AU, NZ)
Director: Josh Sawyer
Producer: Mikey Dowling, Matt Singh, Jason Fader
Designer: Josh Sawyer, John Gonzalez, Charles Staples
Programmer: Frank Kowalkowski
Artist: Joseph A. Sanabria, Brian Menze, Mark Bremerkamp
Writer: John Gonzalez, Chris Avellone, Eric Fenstermaker
Composer: Inon Zur, Mark Morgan
Number of lists: 6
Points: 67
Highest vote: 2nd
By: Psycho666soldier

Game Review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea8JtJlZ3Vc

Kdestiny
October 6th, 2014, 2:30 PM
Was a very good game for sure. I still play this.

Dreyski
October 6th, 2014, 2:52 PM
First and most recent game played on my PS3. Started up a new game last night. If it wasn't for the lag issues, top 3 easily. Still holds the record for the most dialogue spoken in a video game?

The Rogerer
October 6th, 2014, 6:14 PM
It could have been my number 1, but I'm a silly and mercurial man.

The Rick
October 7th, 2014, 6:23 PM
# 9
http://elder-geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/fallout-3-logo.jpg


http://biffbampop.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/11502-fallout3_x360_cover_super.jpg


Developer: Bethesda Game Studios
Publisher: Bethesda Softworks
Director: Todd Howard
Producer: Todd Howard, Gavin Carter, Ashley Cheng
Designer: Emil Pagliarulo, Joel Burgess
Programmer: Guy Carver, Steve Meister
Artist: Istvan Pely, Josh Jones, Mark Lampert
Writer: Emil Pagliarulo
Platforms: Windows, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360
Release date: October 28, 2008
Number of Lists: 5
Points: 68
Highest vote: 1st
By: Bad Collin, The Rogerer


Game Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcniIqF7ZaM

Pete Cash
October 7th, 2014, 6:35 PM
New Vegas is way better than fallout 3.

Mark Hammer
October 7th, 2014, 8:40 PM
New Vegas is way better than fallout 3.

I came here to post this.

The mod that adds color to the overworld is a must as it adds to the game imo. The pale green hue was depressing though in fairness I'm sure that was intentional/the idea.

Fallout 3 also "felt" like a bigger game than New Vegas, but that might just be a figment of my imagination.

Bert
October 7th, 2014, 8:41 PM
Something me Pete Cash and Mark Hammer all agree on. Whoa.

The_Mike
October 7th, 2014, 8:47 PM
Me four. New Vegas might solve Israel/Palestine.

mr sabu
October 8th, 2014, 2:44 AM
few things i didn't like about fallout 3

1) mothership zeta
2) 100 fucking ingot quest
3) dogmeat dies too easy

Psycho666Soldier
October 8th, 2014, 4:21 AM
I think New Vegas is probably the better game all-around, but Fallout 3 is something special, and in a way, I kind of prefer the atmosphere of that game more. Maybe it's just the "nostalgia" of it. Really, though, trying to argue which one is better is unnecessary; they are both amazing. With that in mind, it's fitting that they ranked right next to each other. I'm honestly surprised neither broke the Top 5.

The Rogerer
October 8th, 2014, 4:30 AM
New Vegas is a better game than Fallout 3, but I let my heart rule. Fallout 3 was the reason I bought into the console and I dug into it for weeks. New Vegas felt like a retread at first, but when you dig into it there's far, far more beneath the surface than what was in 3.

The Rick
October 8th, 2014, 8:51 PM
# 8
http://www.elitebastards.com/hanners/games/batman-arkham/batman-logo.jpg


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HyZo7nV4FDI/TgtvYC5oKMI/AAAAAAAAAY8/wxBwPemGhvY/s1600/ArkhamAsylum.jpg


Developer: Rocksteady Studios
Publisher: Eidos Interactive, Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment
Distributor: Square Enix, Time Warner
Director: Sefton Hill
Producer: Daniel Bailie, Nathan Burlow
Writer: Paul Dini
Composer: Nick Arundel, Ron Fish
Platform: PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, Microsoft Windows, OS X, Cloud (OnLive)
Release date: August 25, 2009
Number of Lists: 6
Points: 73
Highest vote: 3rd
By: Morrison


Game Review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjrszD19gzQ

Atty
October 8th, 2014, 10:50 PM
Arkham Asylum is so amazing. I really wish, in an odd way, that I'd never seen the gameplay done so much better in City as it makes it difficult to go back. With a better boss fight at the end and City gameplay, this would probably have topped my list.

With Wii U not getting Arkham Knight, I think they should port Asylum to the system with the City controls and a tweaked final boss fight. It wouldn't be a huge project and would get a ton of love from the Wii U audience. Really, one of the best games I've ever played and I fear it could be one that gets a bit lost to time. The Scarecrow bits are among my favorite ever in gaming. Having third degree burns and being on a ton of pain pills when it came out made it extra special. The bit with Gordon dragging away was blowing my mind.

Beefy
October 9th, 2014, 5:14 AM
I don't agree really - every time I replay both games (once each a year I'd guess) it is City which comes off worst and it is Asylum's tighter gameplay which really shines through.

Asylum is free on PS+ this month so it'#ll be interesting to see how well received it is by people who have only played City up until now.

The Rick
October 9th, 2014, 2:40 PM
# 7
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQdhWtyJBMWf5akL0vaTIpDDMTJ-sJQAU_ksMI7anu6ZTZwT6NL8A


http://pics.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/1322739069-01.jpg


Developer: Bethesda Game Studios
Publisher: Bethesda Softworks
Distributor: Bethesda Softworks (retail), Steam (online)
Director: Todd Howard
Producer: Craig Lafferty
Designer: Bruce Nesmith, Kurt Kuhlmann
Programmer: Guy Carver
Artist: Matthew Carofano
Writer: Emil Pagliarulo
Composer: Jeremy Soule
Platform: Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360
Release date: November 11, 2011
Number of Lists: 6
Points: 79
Highest vote: 1st
By: Mark Hammer

Game Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5UArSg-9uU

Kdestiny
October 9th, 2014, 2:43 PM
Thought this would be top five for sure

Bad Collin
October 9th, 2014, 2:58 PM
I thought Skyrim would be higher.

I think Fallout 3 is the better game, I think the story is tighter and the Capital Wasteland is more fun to explore.

Atty
October 9th, 2014, 3:46 PM
I don't agree really - every time I replay both games (once each a year I'd guess) it is City which comes off worst and it is Asylum's tighter gameplay which really shines through.

Drugs are bad.

The_Mike
October 9th, 2014, 4:58 PM
Thought this would be top five for sure

Same here.

I put a ludicrous number of hours into Skyrim, basically bending the world to my will and constructing myself an enjoyable narrative as a character who got a bunch of daedric artefacts together, killed some powerful dragons and ascended to godhood, justifying the various mods of enormous castles and fancy homes and so on. It's a very enjoyable sandbox, but as time went on I realised there were some pretty big flaws that hurt immersion. If it weren't so pretty and plain big it could be easy to find it a bit dull. Dungeon crawling became a massive chore because no matter how high your level and how great your equipment, you've got to pump ten arrows into every bloody draugr, and there's about fifty of them in every dungeon. The NPCs were largely lifeless, unless they were written to seriously stand out like Cicero, and while some quests were well written a lot of it seemed to just be following a shiny green triangle and killing everything on the way. You could turn the HUD off but then you have no idea where to go to do anything because there are no directions, just fetch-quests dumped plainly in your log. It is a great foundation and a very well realised world but the actual game part, once you mine all you can out of it, turns out to be pretty shallow.

I probably shouldn't have a laundry list of things to complain about in a game I paid $60 for and got well over 200 hours of enjoyment from, but there it is. It could've been better, and the direction ESO went doesn't fill me with confidence that this type of game is going to be built upon in the future in anything but graphics.

Mark Hammer
October 9th, 2014, 6:05 PM
Number 7?

Atty
October 9th, 2014, 8:07 PM
Seems a bit high...

mr sabu
October 10th, 2014, 12:26 AM
# 8
http://www.elitebastards.com/hanners/games/batman-arkham/batman-logo.jpg


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HyZo7nV4FDI/TgtvYC5oKMI/AAAAAAAAAY8/wxBwPemGhvY/s1600/ArkhamAsylum.jpg


Developer: Rocksteady Studios
Publisher: Eidos Interactive, Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment
Distributor: Square Enix, Time Warner
Director: Sefton Hill
Producer: Daniel Bailie, Nathan Burlow
Writer: Paul Dini
Composer: Nick Arundel, Ron Fish
Platform: PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, Microsoft Windows, OS X, Cloud (OnLive)
Release date: August 25, 2009
Number of Lists: 6
Points: 73
Highest vote: 3rd
By: Morrison


Game Review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjrszD19gzQ

2nd game rocksteady ever made

Atty
October 10th, 2014, 12:41 AM
Such a masterpiece being their second ever game is a testament to Rocksteady.

The Rick
October 10th, 2014, 1:44 AM
# 6
http://hd.wallpaperswide.com/thumbs/batman_arkham_city_official_logo-t2.jpg


http://vgboxart.com/boxes/360/39149-batman-arkham-city.png


Developer: Rocksteady Studios
Publisher: Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment
Director: Sefton Hill
Writer: Paul Dini, Paul Crocker, Sefton Hill
Composer: Nick Arundel, Ron Fish
Platform: PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, Microsoft Windows, Wii U, Cloud (OnLive), OS X
Release date: October 18, 2011
Number of Lists: 7
Points 85
Highest vote: 1st
By: Morrison


Game Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glQ7fTxaWPI

Kdestiny
October 10th, 2014, 2:02 AM
Yeah, has been the best Arkham game thus far

Atty
October 10th, 2014, 2:06 AM
The controls were so much more fluid than in Asylum. Not just as far as free flow in combat but with gliding and flying around town. Once I figured out the dive bomb and rise thing, I'd spend so much time just flying around the City. So much fun.

Mark Hammer
October 10th, 2014, 4:48 AM
Seems a bit high...

Said at87845461 and no one else.

Beefy
October 10th, 2014, 4:59 AM
I tried the PacMan demo and enjoyed it but have never seen it at a price where it has felt worth the plunge. Like NBA Jam actually. They need to do something about still charging full price for years old PSN games.

And with that Pac-Man Championship Edition DX goes into the new PSN sale in the Europe region. I'm going to pick it up for £4.99 this afternoon.

The Rogerer
October 10th, 2014, 5:43 AM
I prefer the campaign in Asylum, but City having Catwoman/Robin/Nightwing sold me on the challenge rooms in City.

I think that the combat got a little overcomplicated in City, with too many button combos. That and I got stuck for an hour because I completely forgot about sliding under doors and the game didn't prompt me.

Psycho666Soldier
October 10th, 2014, 8:31 PM
The Batman games(Asylum in particular) looked fantastic. Really, the only reason I have yet to play them is time and the fact that my modern gen back catalog is so behind. These games are definitely at the top of the list though.

Really curious to see what the Top 5 will be. Have we seen any of the Uncharted's rank yet?

Atty
October 10th, 2014, 8:49 PM
I put Asylum in today and it's still gorgeous. Not really sure how to describe it, but the textures/shadows/details are terrific. And it sets the vibe for it so well in the opening scene.


Really curious to see what the Top 5 will be. Have we seen any of the Uncharted's rank yet?

Portal 2, The Last of Us, an Uncharted, GTA 5 and Red Dead will probably make out the top five.

[EDIT] Seems GTA 4 and Uncharted 3 have already shown up in the prelims.

Psycho666Soldier
October 10th, 2014, 9:08 PM
Portal 2 better be Top 3. I will accept nothing lower.

mr sabu
October 11th, 2014, 1:18 AM
I put Asylum in today and it's still gorgeous. Not really sure how to describe it, but the textures/shadows/details are terrific. And it sets the vibe for it so well in the opening scene.



Portal 2, The Last of Us, an Uncharted, GTA 5 and Red Dead will probably make out the top five.

[EDIT] Seems GTA 4 and Uncharted 3 have already shown up in the prelims.


unless it's a different uncharted

Atty
October 11th, 2014, 10:18 AM
That's why I had "an Uncharted" ;)

Before the edit, I was assuming GTA 4 and Fallout 3 as potential top fives.


On the subject of GTA, Rockstar had a PSN sale a month back and now I'm hooked on San Andreas for the first time in a decade. Great use of three dollars. Regret that I didn't download IV for $4.99 and V for $29.99 at the same time.

Dreyski
October 11th, 2014, 4:49 PM
Downloaded Asylum today on PS+, so interested to see the differences between it and City. Just got to wait for the wife to finish watching X-factor before I can play :mad:

Atty
October 11th, 2014, 10:17 PM
X-Factor got back together?!

:hyper:

The Rick
October 13th, 2014, 2:39 PM
# 5
http://brutalgamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/UC2_Vector_Logo-4Cbk-small.jpg


http://www.covergalaxy.com/forum/attachments/sony-ps3/7091d1255454925-uncharted-2-among-theives-uc2_f.jpg


Developer: Naughty Dog
Publisher: Sony Computer Entertainment
Director: Bruce Straley, Amy Hennig
Designer: Richard Lemarchand, Neil Druckmann
Programmer: Pål Engstad, Travis McIntosh, Dan Liebgold
Writer: Amy Hennig, Neil Druckmann, Josh Scherr
Composer: Greg Edmonson, Carmen Rizzo
Platform: PlayStation 3
Release date: October 13, 2009
Number of Lists: 8
Points: 87
Highest vote: 1st
By: Goldberg's Best Friend


Game Review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPp9_ye5Fhc

The Rick
October 13th, 2014, 10:31 PM
I will say that Uncharted 2 was the first game on PS3 that made me feel like I needed to own the console. MSG4 is the reason I got the console, but UC2 was the reason I had to have a PS3. Such a great game. Popcorn action adventure flick made into a game, and made so well.

Atty
October 14th, 2014, 12:02 AM
I will say that Uncharted 2 was the first game on PS3 that made me feel like I needed to own the console. MSG4 is the reason I got the console, but UC2 was the reason I had to have a PS3. Such a great game. Popcorn action adventure flick made into a game, and made so well.

This is the perfect description. I got the MGS 4 PS3 on the day it came out but, as great as that game was, it didn't shake the regret of not having Mass Effect or Halo (had I gone with the 360 at the time.) Uncharted 2 was the game that made the statement to me that I NEEDED to have a PS3.

While the intro is the obvious thing to jump out at the player with how it drops you right in, the stage I'd use to show how well the game is made is the tank stage. It mixes frantic platforming to get to RPGs, combat and all the elements so well. You can go all Rambo and mow everyone down and get to the finish or you can be a real man and speed platform from RPG to RPG to fuck that tank up. Either way plays just as well as the other.

The_Mike
October 14th, 2014, 12:11 AM
I loved this game. I've not really been interested in your AAA stuff since the PS3 generation, but this felt like AAA and it felt like next-gen (at the time), and was just a blast at the same time. A real game, fun through and through, and pretty creative much of the time.

Kdestiny
October 14th, 2014, 12:21 AM
Played all 3 Uncharted games within a year in college. This one was my favorite.

Probably until the next anyways

Atty
October 14th, 2014, 12:44 AM
Uncharted 2 was one of the rare games to receive the "Oh, it's morning?" honor from me. On this list, I think it only happened with this and the Arkhams, but it says a lot for a game when I just keep thinking "one more level" and suddenly notice that it's morning and that I've beaten it. I get distracted so easily that it makes me respect a game all the more when I don't wander off and just can't stop.

I know it also happen with Arkham City and it may have happened with Asylum, but I was too hopped up the first time to know. Other than those, I'd have to go back to KOTOR for an example of this but, even then, that was over a couple days the first time and not one sitting where I just couldn't stop until I got enough. I played Uncharted 2 before the first game, so it hit morning, I beat it and went and got Uncharted 1. That's how great this game is.

Beefy
October 14th, 2014, 6:01 AM
I only played it recently when putting together this list and can see why it is so highly regarded. It is such a step-up from the first game which, whilst good, felt very samey and could have done with being trimmed a fair bit. Uncharted 2 is obviously longer but there's so many changes in setting and the gameplay is mixed up terrifically. I'll definitely replay it at some point.

The Rick
October 14th, 2014, 2:48 PM
# 4
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/12/Portal_2_Official_Logo.png


http://vgboxart.com/boxes/PC/42575-portal-2.jpg


Developer: Valve Corporation
Publisher: Valve Corporation
Distributor: Valve Corporation (online), Electronic Arts (retail)
Director: Joshua Weier
Producer: Gabe Newell
Artist: Jeremy Bennett, Randy Lundeen
Writer: Erik Wolpaw, Jay Pinkerton, Chet Faliszek
Composer: Mike Morasky, Jonathan Coulton (Ending Theme: "Want You Gone"), The National ("Exile, Vilify")
Platform: Windows, OS X, Linux, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360
Release date: April 19, 2011
Number of Lists: 8
Points: 88
Highest vote: 1st
By: Psycho666soldier


Game Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqrhQWb-12g

The Rick
October 14th, 2014, 6:38 PM
Portal 2 is one of my favorite multiplayer experiences of this generation. Experiencing it for your first time is so much better with someone else who is also experiencing it for their first time. The disparity is weird. If you know the puzzles then you want to solve them, but you also want the new person to experience the game. Just a great, and well done co-op mode.

The_Mike
October 14th, 2014, 6:41 PM
Like Uncharted 2, this was just a whole lot of fun with tons of creativity carrying a beautifully crafted game mechanic.

Atty
October 14th, 2014, 11:17 PM
Surprised this is so low. I kept debating this and ME2 for my top spot until I submitted. This game is perfect. There's nothing wrong with it and nothing I would change.

The Rick
October 14th, 2014, 11:47 PM
Surprised this is so low. I kept debating this and ME2 for my top spot until I submitted. This game is perfect. There's nothing wrong with it and nothing I would change.

There were a couple of moments in the single player that frustrated me. Other than that yes I wouldn't change a thing. If I had taken this method to making my list I would have had Journey and Mario Galaxy battling for my top spot. I really had to take into account what games not only captured my attention, but the games that I played the most.

Atty
October 14th, 2014, 11:51 PM
Was one of the points shooting through the crack in the door/wall?

The Rick
October 14th, 2014, 11:52 PM
Was one of the points shooting through the crack in the door/wall?

maybe :shifty:

Atty
October 14th, 2014, 11:55 PM
While I wouldn't change anything, I wouldn't object to there being a larger crack to blast in. First time, I came to a stop there until I figured out that the crack was there. After I found the crack, I was buzzing and happy.

The Rick
October 15th, 2014, 2:44 PM
# 3
https://www.gamestop.com/gs/ravecode/productpageimages/TheLastofUs/Logo.png


http://i2.cdnds.net/12/50/618x780/gaming-the-last-of-us-cover-art.jpg


Developer: Naughty Dog
Publisher: Sony Computer Entertainment
Director: Bruce Straley, Neil Druckmann
Designer: Jacob Minkoff
Programmer: Travis McIntosh, Jason Gregory
Artist: Erick Pangilinan, Nate Wells
Writer: Neil Druckmann
Composer: Gustavo Santaolalla
Platform: PlayStation 3
PlayStation 4
Release date: June 14, 2013
Number of Lists: 8
Points 111
Highest vote: 1st
By: Excel, kdestiny, Olympus


Game Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GBXuE6jcl4

Beefy
October 15th, 2014, 3:05 PM
I thought this would win.

Excel
October 15th, 2014, 3:05 PM
Well I know what's winning now. This should be first but it undoubtedly belongs in the top 3

The_Mike
October 15th, 2014, 3:06 PM
Me too, though I never played it. Will be interesting to see how the votes above it break down.

Fro
October 15th, 2014, 3:39 PM
I always figured GTAV would win

Beefy
October 15th, 2014, 4:31 PM
GTAV is nowhere near as good as TLOU

Dreyski
October 15th, 2014, 4:37 PM
But multi-format though. X-box owners never even got a chance to play it (TLOU).

Kdestiny
October 15th, 2014, 4:57 PM
Possibly the best game I've played was the Last of Us. I know it was only PS, but it's easily the best here. Next gen makes it look even better.

Atty
October 15th, 2014, 10:46 PM
GTAV is nowhere near as good as TLOU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9RVS8cjNN0


Possibly the best game I've played was the Last of Us. I know it was only PS, but it's easily the best here. Next gen makes it look even better.

This could be very true. I've still just played it the one time but I can't think of a game that had such an impact on me in a single play. I think, over time, this will be one of those games people appreciate more and more. Getting it on next gen right away was a brilliant move as it'll let more people experience it over time. Not just how emotionally gripping the game was, but it had basically perfect controls. Everything felt perfect. It's like Silent Hill 2 if that game didn't control like a rusty asshole.

Kdestiny
October 15th, 2014, 11:00 PM
In order for a game to be good I need to be able to get immersed in the story and the gameplay, that's exactly what it did

Atty
October 15th, 2014, 11:02 PM
The story is flat out perfect.

Kdestiny
October 15th, 2014, 11:11 PM
Shame that GTA V is higher. The story was great, but the multiplayer ultimately fell flat for me.

Atty
October 15th, 2014, 11:17 PM
With it down to GTA V and Red Dead, I really hope Redemption wins.

Kdestiny
October 15th, 2014, 11:21 PM
I rated it highwr

Beefy
October 16th, 2014, 8:10 AM
RDR was higher on my list too.

I do like GTA V. I had fun with it. But there are better games out there. I voted GTA IV higher than it tbh. I prefered the story, the characters, the handling of the vehicles and I much prefer New York as a setting and as a city to LA.

Mark Hammer
October 16th, 2014, 12:54 PM
GTAV is nowhere near as good as TLOU

Some of us had an Xbox.

The Rogerer
October 16th, 2014, 12:59 PM
Some of the problems I had with how Uncharted merged story and gameplay were really amplified in The Last Of Us. It's a game with fantastic story telling, but I have reservations about the way it does it's gameplay, and how it merges that with the story too.

Still better than GTA V, anyway. GTA's story and story telling were the pits.

The Rick
October 16th, 2014, 2:39 PM
# 2
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http://media1.gameinformer.com/imagefeed/featured/rockstar/gtav/mural/gtamural610.jpg


Developer: Rockstar North
Publisher: Rockstar Games
Distributor: Take-Two Interactive
Producer: Leslie Benzies, Imran Sarwar
Designer: Leslie Benzies, Imran Sarwar
Programmer: Adam Fowler, Artist: Aaron Garbut
Writer: Dan Houser, Rupert Humphries
Composer: Tangerine Dream, Woody Jackson, The Alchemist, Oh No
Platform: Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, Xbox 360, Xbox One
Release date: 17 September 2013
Number of Lists: 11
Points 127
Highest vote: 2nd
By: Excel, Fro, Mr Sabu


Game Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBS3MUWrfGg

The_Mike
October 16th, 2014, 2:49 PM
Didn't play this one so can't really comment, but I do think RDR deserved to win.

The Rick
October 16th, 2014, 2:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoixIBUi8jI

Beefy
October 16th, 2014, 2:55 PM
Some of us had an Xbox.

Which has nothing to do with my statement.

The Rick
October 16th, 2014, 2:56 PM
I think he's saying he hasn't gotten to play it yet.

Beefy
October 16th, 2014, 2:57 PM
Delighted RDR won. It was in my top three with TLOU and Journey and I only played the supposedly inferior PS3 version. It's a wonderful gaming experience and much more replayable, IMO, than most of Rockstar's games. Online is better that GTA Online too, IMO.

Beefy
October 16th, 2014, 3:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoixIBUi8jI

The Lego game looks fun. Anyone played it?

Excel
October 16th, 2014, 3:28 PM
Red dead is a great game. Replayed it again recently, but I can't understand how it could win.

Atty
October 16th, 2014, 4:12 PM
Multiplatform.

Excel
October 16th, 2014, 4:30 PM
So is gtav. Im shocked that it didnt win

Atty
October 16th, 2014, 5:02 PM
Yeah, both are multiplatform and RDR is a massively better game.

Fro
October 16th, 2014, 11:23 PM
I've had red dead sitting on my shelf for a while now. Should probably get around to playing it

Beefy
October 17th, 2014, 4:21 AM
Guess we should talk about GTA V. It is very good. When I got it I got a solid three weeks of enjoyment out of fucking around and doing the odd mission and was still only about 70% through the story. I didn't enjoy the Los Santos setting very much although I did enjoy some of the areas in the countryside and the small towns. Flying planes and helecopters was fun and the return of things like rampages was long over due.

Trouble was that after I'd played Online for a week and got bored of that I had no inclination at all to return to the single player as the story hadn't connected with me at all. Whilst the mechanic of switching between three characters actually worked very well I thought it really harmed the narrative and by the end of the game I had three characters I'd not made a connection with - which was a stark contrast with both RDR and GTA IV both of which built main and sub-characters up to the point where you're bothered by the very bleak endings of both of those games.

I think it's a marvel in sandbox gaming but I coundn't in all honesty put it in my top five (I had it 8th) and I think it is very telling that not a single person had it as #1 in their lists.

Beefy
October 17th, 2014, 4:22 AM
Some of the problems I had with how Uncharted merged story and gameplay were really amplified in The Last Of Us. It's a game with fantastic story telling, but I have reservations about the way it does it's gameplay, and how it merges that with the story too.


Not looking to disagree with you but I am interested. Can you give some examples of what you mean (in either Last of Us or Uncharted)?

Psycho666Soldier
October 17th, 2014, 5:00 AM
GTA V just barely rounded out my Top 10 at #8, just above MGS4 and Super Mario Galaxy 2. It was an excellent game that I had a blast with. As Beefy said, it was quite a triumph in sandbox play, if only for the sheer scale of it, and I personally enjoy the story and the narrative turns it takes, but I really don't connect with any of the characters except for Trevor, who would seem the worst of the three but in my opinion is the most sympathetic. You understand why he's so fucked in the head and want to see him fix himself, though he never truly does. Even so, he has more of a moral code than the other two despite being a homicidal lunatic. I still enjoyed the ride that the story was from an entertainment aspect, but it doesn't come close to pulling you in the same way San Andreas or GTA IV does, and isn't so overt with its levity like Vice City is.

Online was fun for someone who usually doesn't play online games, but the repetition became very apparent, and with the lack of heists or any real updates to the gameplay(I think we're STILL waiting on heists), it doesn't help the game to much. I'm really interested to see what they do with VI, or if they have any plans for DLC ever(which doesn't seem to be inthe cards), but I'm concerned that they'll fix the problems with this one and create new ones as they did with the transition into this game.

The Rick
October 17th, 2014, 2:43 PM
http://www.iconarchive.com/download/i14589/iconarchive/red-orb-alphabet/Number-1.ico

http://cloud.attackofthefanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Red-Dead-Redemption-Logo.jpg


http://pics.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/1274467489-01.jpg


Developer: Rockstar San Diego[a]
Publisher: Rockstar Games
Distributor: Take-Two Interactive
Producer: Steve Martin, David Kunkler
Designer: Christian Cantamessa
Programmer: Ted Carson
Artist: Joshua Bass, Daren Bader, Nick Trifunovic
Writer: Dan Houser, Michael Unsworth, Christian Cantamessa
Composer: Bill Elm, Woody Jackson
Release date: NA May 18, 2010
Number of Lists: 12
Points: 139
Highest vote: 1st
By: Mr Sabu, The_Mike


Game Review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19N75TL1dHU

The Rogerer
October 17th, 2014, 4:36 PM
Not looking to disagree with you but I am interested. Can you give some examples of what you mean (in either Last of Us or Uncharted)?I could put on a beret and write about this for ages, but I first felt this in Uncharted 2. The scene where you wake up in the village and slowly walk through it with the child and the ox, it came along side the high quality animation and acting of the cutscenes. So I would find myself 'role-playing' in a way, trying to make my motions smooth and natural so you didn't have this natural scene spoiled by Nathan Drake sprinting around running into walls. Wankers call this ludonarrative dissonance, a lot of people complain about it in GTA but I solve that just by ignoring the cutscenes, really.

The Last of Us has excellent storytelling in it's cutscenes, so whenever I spend a couple of minutes picking up and putting down a plank in the wrong place, or Ellie runs out in front of a clicker, it sticks out more like a sore thumb. It almost seems a silly complaint - that your cutscenes have done such a good job of establishing the mood, that instead of a player, I start to feel like an actor on a set, and I want the fights I get into to 'flow' cinematically too. So when something 'gamey' happens in a fight, I feel I've spoiled the mood.

P.S. TLOU and RDR have one thing in common here, I get very sqeamish when I control a horse in a game, and I hated when I would accidentally ride one over an edge in RDR.

The_Mike
October 17th, 2014, 4:40 PM
I was always doing that in RDR. My poor horses. I also walked one off the big mountain in Skyrim.

LOCONUT
October 17th, 2014, 7:51 PM
No Uncharted 3? I'm a bit shocked. I rate that just ahead of TLOU and RDR.

The Rogerer
October 17th, 2014, 8:20 PM
I've got in a fight about this here before, but 2 being the best is the norm. 2 was right place, right time and more fun than the first. 3 did not improve on 2, and it bears out that it was made by a B team while they were working on TLOU. It didn't introduce anything that felt new so it didn't grab attention.

There's a bit at the start of 3 where Drake says something like "Ugh, I have to do even more climbing?" and I was like I feel you buddy.

LOCONUT
October 17th, 2014, 8:21 PM
Also thought that Lara Croft game for PS3 and Xbox was outstanding. Certainly a top 10 for me.

The Rogerer
October 17th, 2014, 8:23 PM
You mean Tomb Raider from last year? It was great, however with so much stuff I'm not sure if it even made my list or not. I'm not a big fan but it's nice that RDR won.

Beefy
October 18th, 2014, 6:29 AM
Definitely tempted by one final RD play through before I upgrade. Or maybe I'll just play the Zombie add-on to get a flavour.

Cheers for the explanation Rog.

Atty
October 18th, 2014, 11:38 AM
I've already started my second RDR run. I got the 360 version on some Christmas deal a couple years back on a buy two get one free where the game of the year edition was the only thing they had left that I was interested in for the free one. First run was on PS3 so this forces me to replay properly.

Such a great game. As far as the differences between the PS3/360 versions, I really couldn't tell you any off hand. Generally games on the 360 tend to look better, but it's been years since I played the PS3 version so I couldn't say if that's the case here.

Beefy
October 22nd, 2014, 12:15 PM
Also how do you guys leave Pac-Man Championship Edition: DX off of your lists? :squint:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Cjz4EuGBrw



Of all of the games on this list(and thus the runners-up side), I would recommend this one to anyone anywhere anyhow. Go play this game if you haven't.

Love, love, love this. I dread to think how many hours I'd have sunk into it had I picked it up at release instead of waiting for it to drop below a fiver.