Batman: Arkham Knight...

[Alf]

Sex wee

http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/04/batman-arkham-knight-is-next-gen-game-from-rocksteady-4410907/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkuD0Inb9Gs

[TimeSplitter]

Woah! Looks more a sequel to Origins than City, though. Looks great.

[Rip]

Looks stunning.

X-Box One on the shopping list then.

[The Doc]

I hope it's a sequel to City, which I think it is. That line at the beginning about your fears could easily be in reference to Scarecrow and everybody seemed in agreement that he probably has a container of Titan and and there were plenty of little clues tossed around in City to suggest that he is just fine, he just decided not to play. (Unless you found that super secret container, which I did not I looked it up on Youtube, I can't even 100% that game. There are a few Riddler Trophies I just can't do)

[TimeSplitter]

It is a sequel to city, according to ign, but Harley out of mourning made it look like another prequel.

[The Doc]

Or worse, Joker alive. I've had a theory for a while that I picked up on some Forum where Joker somehow faked his death, or got his hands on some magical green goo that's known to bring people back from the dead and his entire plot was about getting Batman to break him out of Arkham City cus what's a better joke than that?

Don't get me wrong, I'll be pissed but comic Joker has come back from so much that the trope for bad guys just won't die is Joker Immunity. Here's hoping for a game without Joker if for no other reason than I think (especially with the success of Arrow as a tv show) maybe DC needs to give Ollie a game, or Huntress. Or hell if you're feeling boldish Captain Marvel. I don't blame Rocksteady for Arkham Origins, but with it that's giving us two games separated by what's likely to be less than a year. DC however is SO hung up on Batman that none of the rest of their library is at all viable. By contrast Marvel at least has the entire cast of the Avengers perhaps minus Black Widow and Hawkeye who could carry a film or several on name brand, and Spiderman, and the X-Men and the Fantastic Four can kinda hold their own and other than nobody really thinks of Blade as a comic character etc etc. Short version being I don't want Arkham to go the same route Guitar Hero did, I genuinely enjoyed those games and awesome as this looks. . .

[Bill Casey]

Did not expect to see Penguin, Two Face and Harley Quinn working together...
Penguin, Two Face and Joker all hated each other...

It seems like Joker's death has opened the door for reconciliation and collaboration...

Seems like a heavy emphasis on the Batmobile...
Could we be seeing Batmobile gameplay incorporated into the Arkham games?
Perhaps...

[lotjx]

Jesus. That was epic.

[LOCONUT]

Holy crap

[Beer-Belly]

Hot fuck sundae.

I guess I'm getting a PS4.

[Beer-Belly]

I just read it will be the final Arkham game. Whaaaa? Do they plan on moving to Gotham after this one? No way they drop the franchise altogether.

[The Doc]

Apparently Akrham Knight does not refer to Batman but to some new character made specifically for the games. He's supposed to be someone who can meet Batman on fairly equal terms.

[Morrison]

Did not expect to see Penguin, Two Face and Harley Quinn working together...
Penguin, Two Face and Joker all hated each other...

It seems like Joker's death has opened the door for reconciliation and collaboration...

Seems like a heavy emphasis on the Batmobile...
Could we be seeing Batmobile gameplay incorporated into the Arkham games?
Perhaps...

been confirmed that the batmobile will be 'playable,' with wider streets amongst the open world map. you'll be able to eject into a glide from it, and it comes equipped with rockets and stun capabilities.

I just read it will be the final Arkham game. Whaaaa? Do they plan on moving to Gotham after this one? No way they drop the franchise altogether.

this game is going to be gotham proper, from what the first details suggest. map is 5x larger than arkham city, and the batmobile is playable. takes place a year after arkham city.

it's perhaps that rocksteady wants to close out their involvement and their story and move on, kinda like bungie eventually did with halo. after seeing that this game will be next-gen exclusive, it totally painted arkham origins as a stop-gap game for the last gen who may not be quick to adopt the new consoles, but upon hearing rocksteady might be moving on, i think origins was probably more about setting up a studio to take over the franchise once this is out by getting their feet wet.

[Morrison]

Apparently Akrham Knight does not refer to Batman but to some new character made specifically for the games. He's supposed to be someone who can meet Batman on fairly equal terms.

indeed. he's being described as a 'militarized' version of batman who has the arkham 'A' symbol emblazoned on his chest. rocksteady has been a good protector and narrator of the batman lore, so i'm glad it seems they're looking to maybe introduce a new villain into the gallery. i have faith it will be compelling, but i hope it isn't a bait and switch where it turns out to be an old foe, like black mask and joker in origins. an old ally might work. hush wouldn't surprise me, since his name was being linked as the major villain for this game, but was nowhere to be found.

some more info:
- next gen hardware allows for 50 or more on screen characters at once.
- no multiplayer.
- no load times whatsoever, so entering buildings is completely seamless.
- batmobile can be called with the push of a button and basically bulldozes everything in it's way. there will be riddler challenges specific to the batmobile.
- all voice actors from arkham city will be back, with kevin conroy as batman.
- quick fire gadgets can be used while flying.
- new moves like throwing an enemy into another enemy.
- predator takedowns can be chained together.

really exciting possibilities here. not sure exactly what the chaining of predator takedowns will work out to, but being able to queue up a few take downs before going into action should be satisfying as all hell.

[Kdestiny]

Titty fucking Christ.

Next gen is about to clean me out

[TimeSplitter]

I'm hoping this game opens up the chance for rocksteady to start justice league games. Maybe have Superman cameo like Robin in Arkham City.

[Atty]

Is this going to be on PS3 or are they going to force me to buy a PS4?

[TimeSplitter]

Just new gen.

[Atty]

What's the release date on this? I'll divide the total cost by the number of weeks and put that amount in a jar each week rather than putting it towards hookers and blow.

[Morrison]

What's the release date on this? I'll divide the total cost by the number of weeks and put that amount in a jar each week rather than putting it towards hookers and blow.

hasn't been announced, though gamestop had a stand or graphic that said 10/14/14, so that could possibly be in. arkham city and origins both released in mid to late october, so it makes sense.

[mr sabu]

dig the new riddler look
spoilered for size



http://i.imgur.com/kROlg04.jpg

[RuneEdge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7X69-acHaw
:eek:

[Kyle_242]

I wonder if Atty and Morrison will play this game.

[Atty]

Gee, I wonder if Atty will buy an entirely new system just to play this.

[mr sabu]

im curious as to where the story leads with the arkham knight

they say it's a full co-created brand spanking new character but im expecting a massive plot twist in here somewhere

[Bill Casey]

I'm going out on a limb and guessing the Arkham Knight is Protocol 11...
Hugo Strange clearly had a contingency plan in case he failed. Protocol 11 involved blowing up his headquarters, TYGER returning to Arkham Island and...?

...Creating the perfect criminal killer in Batman's image? Is it a clone? A cyborg? Both?


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[Bill Casey]

http://abload.de/img/1401795810033ndmq.jpg

Who's ready for a trailer?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AykgIIWdPM

[mr sabu]

such a shame it's pushed back to next year :(

but id rather a polished game then an origins

[The Doc]

I actually don't mind the pushback. I mind a lot more that it's next gen, I kinda like getting my trilogies/systems on one system. Don't get me started on the fact that I have games for systems I don't own and had to borrow or play at friends house so I could get through some games. . . talking bout you Kingdom Hearts! Fucking PSP game. The fuck is the matter with you?! Also if Kingdom Hearts three doesn't hit before we have a new President I'm going to jail. But not after I go on a rampage from Disney World to Square Enix headquarters.

On the game as long as the plot twist isn't Joker I'm fine. And this from someone who has a long standing theory that Joker totally played the shit out of us and not only survived (Via the Lazarus Pit we know was literally like fifty feet from where he was standing) but that the real purpose of his death was to get Batman to break him out. That's right, Batman broke Joker out of jail.

Was the last one really that bad? I keep hearing alternate opinions that range from it's terrible nobody should play this game to, it's terrible. . .if you hold it next to Arkham City but if you can find it cheap or need your fix it'll get you through. And some say it's buggy as hell and some say it's buggy. . .but unless you really planned on getting all those Riddler Trophies you're only gonna hit one or two glitches. I just can't get a fix on it. Which is odd.

[TimeSplitter]

It's worth playing through, but is a step down from City. Still a good play though.

[Bill Casey]

It's a solid 7/10 game...
Nothing groundbreaking like Rocksteady's games have been...

It's basically more of Arkham City, which isn't a bad thing. WBM knew their limits and didn't try to do too much to change the formula. They only added a handful of features to the gameplay, and the game mostly just plays the same as City. I had more glitches in Arkham City than Origins, but I never installed the Multiplayer...

Personally, I love the crap out of Arkham Origins...

[mr sabu]

it was a great game however i was one of those people who had the constant freezes and save file corruptions so i didn't enjoy it as much as i should have

the good thing about this ebing pushed back is ill have more time to enjoy the pre-sequel when it comes out

[Atty]

Aye. I beat it and then started a second run. Gave up and traded the PS3 copy in out of rage when that save corrupted. Been considering getting the Wii U version as I've been seeing it below twenty dollars.

[Morrison]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNvjuzdHnsI

holy lord.

[mr sabu]

not sold on scarecrows new voice( it will grow on me over time ) but im guessing it's not being suppressed by the respirator this time

however his new look is bad ass reminds me of havok's alt costume from mortal kombat deception

[Anthony_]

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!

[Atty]

I take it the date I buy a PS4 is TBA 2015?

[Bill Casey]

http://i59.tinypic.com/2e31kli.jpg

[mr sabu]

if any of you lovely people are reddit users stay away from anything arkham knight topics

someone one there has claimed to work for rockstedy and released the entire concept of the story

weather it's true or not i dunno but warning you just incase

[The Rogerer]

Is it about Batman catching some people.

On a serious note, this game has now been delayed until June 2015. These sorts of delays don't surprise me, but I wonder if there is a deliberate tactic of giving overoptimistic release dates.

[Atty]

I thank Rocksteady kindly for this delay.

[Bill Casey]

New Easter Egg from Arkham City was just revealed...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=temF1OFCIPg

Calendar Man promises the end of days is coming...

[Atty]

I love that they still have stuff that people are just finding now.

[mr sabu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbLLI-eRJIQ

[mr sabu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUA7o6Djnf0

this cant come out soon enough :(

[Atty]

They need to port to Wii U.

[Donald]

Wii Wii Wii U know it.

[Bill Casey]

All three parts of ACE Chemical infiltration put together...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoJlqgrLqMw

[Morrison]

so latest news is that arkham knight is going to be rated M, making it the first batman game to get that designation.

clearly this is going to be a dark game, but i wonder exactly what content there is that pushed it into an M rating. you'd have to think it must have some significance if they couldn't/wouldn't compromise down into a T rating. but then again, i dont know exactly what the parameters are for each rating tier to begin with.

[Reech]

Here you go:

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp

MATURE
Content is generally suitable for ages 17 and up. May contain intense violence, blood and gore, sexual content and/or strong language.

It could be for the swears, excess blood and/or graphic injury stuff or anything related to drugs/sex that's a bit too explicit (such as boobs/penis on show).

*shrug*. Speculation.

[Beer-Belly]

I think the plot just might be really dark.

[The Rogerer]

They need to port to Wii U.:lol:

[Reech]

I think the plot just might be really dark.

Lighting isn't an issue the ESRB worry about.

[Bill Casey]

It says on the site that it's rated M for "Blood, Language, Suggestive Themes, Violence"...

[Reech]

Get your faces around this new trailer people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7Tv7tONzEQ

[Reech]

Here you go:

ESRB have clarified why it got an 'M'. Possible spoilers:

http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=33870&Title=

Rating Summary: This is an action-adventure game in which players primarily assume the role of Batman as he battles several villains spreading chaos across Gotham City. Players traverse a variety of locations around Gotham while battling thugs, examining crime scenes, and occasionally rescuing hostages. Players engage in melee-style combat using punches, kicks, and gadgets (e.g., batarangs, explosives). Enemies cry out in pain when struck, and some takedowns are highlighted by brief slow-motion effects and loud impact sounds. Some sequences allow players to use tank-like vehicles with machine gun turrets and rockets to shoot enemies; a vehicle's wheels are also used to torture an enemy in one sequence. Cutscenes depict characters getting shot (on and off camera) while restrained or unarmed. Large bloodstains/pools of blood appear in crime scenes and in the aftermath of violent acts; one room depicts a person torturing a character on a bloody operating table. During the course of the game, players can shoot unarmed characters and a hostage. Neon signs in a red-light district read “live nude girls” and “XXX.” The words “b*tch,” “gobsh*te,” and “a*s” appear in the dialogue.

[Atty]

Kids today and fucking children.

[Bill Casey]

New Trailer drops Monday...

ALL WHO FOLLOW YOU

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[Alf]

Is that Azrael?

[Bill Casey]

Is that Azrael?

Of course...

[mr sabu]

arkham knight will be the 4th game they ever made.. hard to believe

[virms]

Fuck yes. This looks amazing.

[Bill Casey]

Countdown...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d2QinGjJWQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahwZrMR0C4w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaLLC3a8egk

[mr sabu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-DBvDejInI

[Jez]

UPDATE: Batman: Arkham Knight has a new "dual play" mechanic, Warner Bros. has confirmed.

This sees the player "switch seamlessly" between Batman and his allies, including Robin, Nightwing and Catwoman in "free-flow combat".

So, no co-op, then, as some took the trailer below to indicate, but exciting nonetheless.

Sounds like an interesting new feature, I was slightly concerned that this game would end up being City+Batmobile but this could mix things up and give those of us who are well versed with the series something new to learn.

[Bill Casey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbg9Bqsvifg

Jonathan Banks (Breaking Bad) plays Jim Gordon
John Noble (Fringe) plays Scarecrow
Ashley Greene (Twilight) plays Oracle
Scott Porter (Friday Night Lights) plays Nightwing

[VanillaJello]

Jason Street!

[mr sabu]

i kinda like how scarecrow sounds this time round

[Atty]

Why is this not out yet? Is this what they do in Gitmo to make people talk? "Yeah, you can play Arkham as soon as you tell us where Bin Laden is." That's how they caught him, isn't it? That Lincoln guy's daughter lied to me!

[Bill Casey]

Why is this not out yet? Is this what they do in Gitmo to make people talk? "Yeah, you can play Arkham as soon as you tell us where Bin Laden is." That's how they caught him, isn't it? That Lincoln guy's daughter lied to me!
They said they delayed it for "vision", so here's my theory on it...

They've planned a crapton of DLC, and they plan on releasing one every month, which is basically impossible if they haven't been working on it. So they may have pushed the game back so they could work on the dlc, and there's not a giant lull between the game and the dlc coming out, which is what typically happens. The game comes out, and then by the time the dlc comes out, most people have moved on...

So basically, the game comes out and then every month there's something new for the following six months...


Batgirl: A Matter of Family

An all new prequel story expansion in an entirely new location where you play as Batgirl for the very first time in the Arkham series - check out the first render of Batgirl.

http://community.wbgames.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/5321i3F8743A38156D13B/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1


The Season of Infamy

Play as Batman in all new story missions featuring legendary super-villains invading Gotham City, with new story arcs, missions and gameplay features.



Gotham City Stories

Play as Batman’s key allies in narrative missions extending their storylines, from both before and after the events in Batman: Arkham Knight.



Legendary Batmobiles with Themed Tracks

Drive the most iconic Batmobiles from Batman’s 75-year history, on custom-built race tracks, each themed to that Batmobile’s specific era. Every Batmobile will be drivable across every race track.



Crimefighter Challenge Maps

Engage in a series of new challenge maps utilizing the unique play styles of Batman and his allies.



Character Skins

A variety of skins from across the eras for Batman, Robin, Nightwing and Catwoman.



As we fully ramp up development on the Season Pass, we will be sharing even more details on each monthly content drop. We hope you enjoy playing Batman: Arkham Knight as much as we’ve enjoyed making it.



WB Games

They also may be planning something for E3...

[Atty]

E3 should have the final trailer. That one being just a Rocksteady exec walking up and saying "just give me your money" with his hand held out.

[Newf]

Sounds like an interesting new feature, I was slightly concerned that this game would end up being City+Batmobile but this could mix things up and give those of us who are well versed with the series something new to learn.

Similar to GTA V, switching between Michael and Franklin and Trevor then? Cuz I know people were skeptical of that mechanic when it was announced but it was executed perfectly. Hoping they do the same with this.

[Atty]

My time playing as Catwoman would be rather lopsided.

I know it's not going to happen in a game like this, but I'd love it if it went to some completely different finish if you were playing as Catwoman (a borderline baddie), with a different boss and all. Kind of like the awesome "screw him" bit in City, but legit fucking you over for playing too much as her.

Something crazy like fighting Batman instead of Cylon Batman for the final boss.

[Bill Casey]

Similar to GTA V, switching between Michael and Franklin and Trevor then? Cuz I know people were skeptical of that mechanic when it was announced but it was executed perfectly. Hoping they do the same with this.

It sounds like there are sections of the game where Batman joins an ally, and then you switch between them while being able to perform double team moves...

Just from the trailer, Batman & Robin are fighting Harley Quinn, Batman & Nightwing are taking on Penguin, and Batman & Catwoman have to deal with Riddler Robots. Catwoman also has an electronic collar on her, presumably placed on her by The Riddler. I can't help but notice all of the tandem combat footage is interior...

[Caito]

John "Fuckin'" Noble

I will play this game just to hear his voice....


An ya know, cuz it's Batman and all but JOHN NOBLE!!!

[virms]

I don't think it is possible to jizz so many times over a video game. This is a must have.

[Bill Casey]

A look at Dual Play mode...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_R2ptt7ibs

[Bill Casey]

"Officer Down" & "Time To Go To War" Trailers put together...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=371&v=eR6jj80wXsg





More on the Batmobile. EMP weapon, hacking enemy tanks, Riddler Racetrack gameplay, etc...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIiVD_lMoXg

[Chris Scott]

I don't think it is possible to jizz so many times over a video game. This is a must have.

:yes:

[Bill Casey]

I accidentally posted the same video twice...
Fixed it...

Footage of Riddler Racetrack and new Batmobile gadgets added...

[VHS]

I'm blown away by this. It's like... the epitome of what a video game can possibly be. Seeing this makes me wish I was a little kid because this easily looks like the coolest game ever. :yes:

[mr sabu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca1AR8MTiLA

[Grimario]

Dear Batman: Arkham Fans,

We regret to inform you that we are not able to release the Batmobile Collector's Edition of Batman: Arkham Knight due to unforeseen circumstances that greatly compromised the quality of this extremely limited run of product.

We are deeply apologetic for this unfortunate outcome. If you did pre-order the Batmobile Collector's Edition, please go to the retail location where you pre-ordered the product and you will receive a full refund of your deposit or it can be rolled over to another Batman: Arkham Knight edition or another product of your choice.

We will be providing everyone who purchases Batman: Arkham Knight with the New 52 skin pack, including Batman, Robin and Nightwing, free of charge.

http://community.wbgames.com/t5/Batman-Arkham-Knight-General/Update-On-The-BAK-Batmobile-Edition/m-p/562644

[mr sabu]

well fellas it's comoing up to that time of release again :) steer clearing of anything arkham knight related

[The Rogerer]

7 out of 10 from Gamespot, who are pretty stringent about their scores. Oof.

http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/batman-arkham-knight-review/1900-6416169/

[Beer-Belly]

It's at 91 on Metacritic, so I'd say it's a little early to say the sky is falling.

[Atty]

IGN gave it a 9.2.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/19/batman-arkham-knight-review?utm_source=IGN%20hub%20page&utm_medium=IGN%20(front%20page)&utm_content=1&utm_campaign=Coverstory

That Gamespot review was a bit weird. I just skimmed it (don't want to be spoiled), but the things he was docking the game for seemed to be using the Batmobile and then a spot complaining that most of the women in Gotham needed to be rescued. It's Batman—EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE RESCUED!

[Morrison]

polygon gave it a 10.

[Atty]

Yep.

http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/19/8811383/batman-arkham-knight-review-xbox-one-PC-PS4


This seems like yet another case of Gamespot low balling a score to seem different than everyone else. Dumbass hipsters with their actually dumb asses.

[Beer-Belly]

Isn't Polygon owned by the more-progressive-than-thou people at Vox? If they didn't have a problem with the way women are depicted in the game then I'm going to assume it isn't an issue.

[Morrison]

from the reviews ive read or listened to so far, ive got not doubts that, as a huge batman and arkham fan, im going to love the game to death. and that's really all that matters.

[Morrison]

the only real disappointing thing i see across all the reviews is that people dont seem to like the batmobile combat. that was something i've been looking forward to.

[Bill Casey]

Arkham Knight has engaged in a massive media blitz at E3, all from the first couple hours of the game, with the first parts of some side quests...




E3 Trailer, aka The Game's Amazing Opening...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VymQrOoLww




Firefly side mission, GCPD Tour...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOuIs3zp9Wc




Crime Scene Demo, Navigating with Batmobile and Scaling Wall with Batmobile Wench, Riddler Racetrack...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2jrKu5GjeA




Two Face Bank Robbery, Predator Gameplay, Riddler Puzzle...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2qWl7Fstww




Fireman Rescue, Batmobile Challenge Maps and Dual Play Challenge Maps...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvk-vOizzz8

[Morrison]

you posted the crime scene vid twice instead of the two face bank robbery one.

[Bill Casey]

you posted the crime scene vid twice instead of the two face bank robbery one.

It's correct now...

[Morrison]

stayed up all night after getting off work and played for 7 hours. 24% through the main story, 11% overall. absolutely loving it. my biggest worry was the batmobile after reading some reviews, and it can be a bit clunky, but i find the combat fun and a nice change of pace, especially after switching the control scheme for it to toggle battle mode instead of needing to keep the left trigger pressed the entire time. oddly, braking fornme is an issue. brake and reverse are the same button, and i feel like the brake animation isnt long enough, so im constantly going into reverse too often when trying to stop somewhere specific.

really digging the story so far. loving the arkham knight and his demeanor.

touches like when you go into the maximum security evidence room at the GCPD, and youre checking out all the cool supervillain evidence they have on display, and you get to the talia display and batman gets all sad are great. also love that the access point for scanner in the clocktower is a replica bust statue of shakespeare from the 1960's tv show that served as the switch to the entrance of the batcave.

the first big plot twist, with joker now appearing to batman after barbara is kidnapped as part of his psyche, is great. going about you business in gotham only to turn around or grapple up to a rooftop to find him sitting there waiting for you, ready to comment on what's going on and batman's thought process and internal struggle, is a tremendous way to keep him in the game but not as the central, driving force behind all of the shenanigans going on within the city. the concept of joker and batman as two sides of the same coin is always toyed with, and this might be one of the best interpretations of that theory yet. loved the recreation of the killing joke scene, sans the implied rapey vibes.

and love that they've gotten gordon to turn on batman. there's definitely some 'over the edge' vibes, though i doubt they go with an all out war between bats and gordon, even if that would be tremendous. bane showing up as a hired gun by gordon, omg yes.

the storyline of jokers tainted blood managing to get out into the public despite batman and gordon's best efforts and infecting 5 people, turning them into varying degrees of joker is a cool twist. henry adams being immune and batman keeping him prisoner against his will to find a cure is a nice concept to play with. considering batman was infected with jokers blood in city, i imagine he's the fifth person that he said would 'be here soon...' despite the cure he took. interesting developments.

so glad to have scannable riddles back. forgot how much i love those. and it's nice getting some more backstory from the 9 months between city and knight in the gotham city stories section. im sure the prequel comics tackled a bunch of that, though.

the pick up of the 'creature of the night' case with man bat scared the fuck out of me. wonderful bit of jump scare tactics there.

[RFF Champ]

Amazon muthas haven't sent the game yet.

[Alf]

Amazon sent mine... but they couldn't fit it through the letter box so having to have it redelivered on Thursday. Fuck.

[The Rogerer]

Amazon seem happy to take their time these days. By take their time I mean have people on minimum wage walk 30 miles around their warehouse each shift.

[Fanny]

For the past 17 months I haven't touched a computer game, and I really can't convince myself that I'd have any time to play this, but I think I'll buy it anyway. Bye.

[Atty]

Got the game, installed everything but want to wait until I have a nice free block of time before starting. Was too tired to play video games last night and felt it would be a waste to start it like that. Also factoring in that I'm probably three weeks from surgery and kind of want to wait until after so I'm all hopped up on goofballs and painkillers and not really able to do anything else. When Asylum came out, I had just had severe burns to my arm and all the painkillers I was on made the Scarecrow bits the best things ever. Kind of want that duplicated. I had friends come over then to check on me/hang out and I still hear about how they walked in and I was sitting there on the floor chuckling like a loon as Scarecrow's gassing you. Loved it.

With City I rushed in so quickly that I played it without Catwoman. Don't remember if my internet was down or if I just needed to play that bad. In that case, I kept playing all night and heard Joker singing over the credits as the sun rose. Couldn't put it down and kind of want some slot like that in my schedule for that.

I also figured putting it off could let me finish up Ass Creed 4 which I finally played through. Little did I know the final chapter was just a cutscene...

[Morrison]

For the past 17 months I haven't touched a computer game, and I really can't convince myself that I'd have any time to play this, but I think I'll buy it anyway. Bye.

are you going for an actual PC copy? if so, watch out, cause apparently the PC port has been having a shit ton of issues and the game is almost unplayable for a bunch of people.

[Atty]

Started it. The only thing in any of the Rocksteady games that I haven't liked is the Batmobile. Stuck on a bit towards the start where you have to platform it in tight spots and I'd rather just glide around as Batman.

[EDIT] Figured out what I was doing at the end of that bit but I fell like 20 times trying to get back to that point. Batman controls so perfectly that I think the Batmobile stands out more.

[Morrison]

Started it. The only thing in any of the Rocksteady games that I haven't liked is the Batmobile. Stuck on a bit towards the start where you have to platform it in tight spots and I'd rather just glide around as Batman.

[EDIT] Figured out what I was doing at the end of that bit but I fell like 20 times trying to get back to that point. Batman controls so perfectly that I think the Batmobile stands out more.
in battle mode it does feel a bit too light and nimble. which is great when fighting drones but the platforming bits can be annoying, i'd imagine. i havent had many problems, but i am taking my time.

[Atty]

Holy fuckballs shit has done picked up.

This is fucking brilliant. And switching the Batmobile controls did wonders. But holy shitballs.

[Morrison]

couple more hours and so much more to love.

havent advanced the story much at all, but just picking up on side things, like tethered down character balloons from the cancelled halloween parade being a girl pretty blatant batman 89 reference. and when in wayne tower, being able to listen to bruce's voicemail messages from vicki vale, lex luthor, katherine kane and joker makin pranks calls as thomas and martha wayne now that he knows that batman is bruce wayne. also got excited while flying through the heavily armored third island of the city and gliding right past a giant lexcorp building.

i think my game might be a bit buggy, as im constantly finding that its raining heavily while im indoors sometimes. particularly the clocktower and wayne tower, so far. i thought maybe it was supposed to be that way, given some story elements, but i watched a youtube video of the wayne tower section and it wasnt raining in the office. weird and kinda minor, but worth bringing up.

[S.H. Styles]

So, I played Arkham Asylum, but not Arkham City. I also never got a chance to watch the batman trilogy movies, even though I loved Batman Beyond as a kid :(

I know, I have catching up to do. I don't plan on playing Arkham City though. If I bought this game, would I be lost not having played City? I want to buy it because I haven't bought a game since GTA 5, but dont want to buy something I'll have no clue about...

[Atty]

Yes.

[Morrison]

why not buy city? these are direct sequels.

[S.H. Styles]

I don't think I'll have the time. Plus, if Knight is so much better and the game of all games, I'd rather go with that. I'm thinking of just reading what happens on wiki.

I have to watch the movies first though, of course. Maybe this'll be the summer of Batman for me.

[Morrison]

you dont think you'll have the time to play two video games?

[The Rogerer]

Don't buy City. The games have a lot in common and there's been a gap of years between them. You'll not have missed out on anything, really. Batman punches people.

[mr sabu]

got this for the pc not really having issues with it atm but we will see ( then again all my settings are on low ).. ill be upgrading the comp later this year for more games but im enjoying it

gave up on the story after 10 mins and just sent the time driving round the city

[Atty]

I don't think I'll have the time. Plus, if Knight is so much better and the game of all games, I'd rather go with that. I'm thinking of just reading what happens on wiki.

I'm not done with Knight, but I'd have City ranked ahead of it so far. Asylum too. That's by no means a bad thing, but I haven't seen anyone say "Knight is so much better"

[Morrison]

i havent played city since beating it back in 2012, and could possibly just be high off of playing a new arkham game, but knight is pushing for my favorite. it hits on all kinds of notes im looking for.

[VHS]

WB has suspended sales of the PC version on account of it being unplayably glitchy. What a mess.

[Atty]

i havent played city since beating it back in 2012, and could possibly just be high off of playing a new arkham game, but knight is pushing for my favorite. it hits on all kinds of notes im looking for.

It's hard for me to say as I'm very much mid game, but I like the story bits as much or more than in the other games. It would make no sense or hold no meaning to me without the other two games, but the story is ace so far. I'm getting the hang of the Batmobile and it's definitely better after upgrading it a bit and swapping the controls but there tend to be bits where you have to drive it for ten minutes across the city when I'd rather just hit the next point in the story.

This is all stuff that may well play much better on my next run—knowing the map better, Mako controls, etc. Right now I don't know the map at all despite playing a good deal and I'm VERY used to knowing every nook and cranny of Asylum and City. Even with Origins, I knew the whole map since they just stole everything from City.

As for glitches, it's frozen twice on me. I'm playing on PS4 but it froze once at the very end (I'm talking right at the finish line with one second to go) of a Riddler race challenge and then again with Batman in mid flight. In the case of the second one, it wouldn't let me close the game and eventually froze up the PS4 complete. Even holding the off sensor didn't shut it off so I had to unplug the system and replug.

[mr sabu]

WB has suspended sales of the PC version on account of it being unplayably glitchy. What a mess.


currently im recusing the hostages at ace chemicals and i haven't had one glitch so far, it feels very clunky though so it's either performance issue or my cpu


other then that been fine

[Bill Casey]

I don't think I'll have the time. Plus, if Knight is so much better and the game of all games, I'd rather go with that. I'm thinking of just reading what happens on wiki.
Here's Arkham City condensed into a two hour movie format...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAkcBDDeFZg

[Atty]

My fastest run was about that time.

Really liking the mission select in Knight now that I'm used to it. Less clunky than City, which only was clunky by comparison. Also like not having to find a bunch of Riddler trophies before doing his bits, as this first run is about story and not a bunch of collectables.

[Atty]

Also, this isn't a spoiler at all, but I can't say how much I love that a section of the city is Otisburg. OTISBURG!

[mr sabu]

im suprised at how long this game is

im currently at 11 hours and i just got to

using the sonar to find the plants

thats doing a mix of main story and side quests

[Atty]

I'm a bit beyond that but not too far past, I think.

The Batmobile is really growing on me. I'm kind of feeling that reviews and initial impressions would have nitpicked it less had it not been such a focus of promotion for the past couple years.

[Atty]

After saying I'm not doing sidequests/collectables, I found myself doing them without even noticing it. Love the mission select layout as it gets me to do them, not miss quests, and do so without them feeling like sidequests. It's a very nice improvement. Riddler in particular is an improvement over City, as I noted above.

Really can't wait to see how this all ends. If anyone spoils, I'll cut them.

[Morrison]

in the main plotline im just at...

the point where i have to go infiltrate the stagg zeppelins.

i love getting distracted by side missions. i like to prolong the experience so chipping away a little bit at everything helps with that.

i also read that there are THREE endings to the game.

[Atty]

That actually would explain something I was just thinking...

I'm destined to play this forever.

[Atty]

So far Batman's hit a pop up powerbomb, some stunners, natural selection a ton of release german suplex throws... Batman vs. Brock please.

Brock should be the final boss.

[Morrison]

he also straight up punches a dude in the dick as a counter during a cinematic interrogation.

[Atty]

He could go all Bolton in the interrogations...

[Bill Casey]

i also read that there are THREE endings to the game.

Not really though...
You just get a little more of same ending...

[Atty]

So, like Metroid Prime?

Pretty sure I have to be near the end right now.

[Bill Casey]

I've had an erection for four days and my penis fell off...
I'm going to have to go to the hospital... as soon as I finish this game...

[Atty]

I get the feeling that I'm at the point where if i do the next main story bit, it'll lead into the endgame.

Not sure if I should wrap up some sidequests or just finish up tonight. Not going to do all the Riddler trophies before finishing, but may wrap up some of the others.

[Bill Casey]

Not sure if I should wrap up some sidequests or just finish up tonight. Not going to do all the Riddler trophies before finishing, but may wrap up some of the others.
Wrap up the sidequests first...
You get additional dialogue when you talk to the villains in GCPD, but only before you finish the main story...

Leaving the GCPD after you drop someone off and immediately going back in is enough to position a villain for a talk...

[Atty]

I'll get those next time. I actually got most of them minus henchmen and the guy I got tired of chasing in the Batmobile.

[Atty]

More game left than I thought. That's a very, very, very good thing. :)

I love the GCPD lockup the more I play. So cool seeing it fill up with people you took down. I guess I'll finish up tomorrow. Not sure the ranking right now of the three games—it may be impossible to choose.

A lot of the locations you have to drive through remind me freakishly of Mass Effect 1. Driving up to GCPD is the same path as that run on Feros before all the ExoGeni people and there is a segment that feels so close driving it to Ilos. Might be an odd thing in my head, but I keep getting reminded of it. Reminding me of Mass Effect is also a very good thing.

[Atty]

Wrapping up side quests first is recommended by Atty. That is all.

[lotjx]

The Riddler car puzzles should be easy, but I handle the Batmobile like an female Asian driver. I got to Joker showing up ala in my head, Manbeat and Azreal. I take it this really is the end with the Joker stuff.

[Atty]

Absolutely brilliant story. Storywise, probably my favorite in the series.

Also, I hit Double A spinebuster and A FUCKING CURB STOMP with Batsy today. The move endures.

[Atty]

Not really though...
You just get a little more of same ending...

I'm not going to say anything about them yet, but it's the Return of the King style of multiple endings rather than different endings.

[Atty]

Ok, some thoughts on the endings. Goes without saying, but please don't click this until you're done.

The first ending is the only I've gotten so far. I watched the other two on youtube as I didn't want to spend four more hours wrapping up sidequests to see them tonight.

The first is absolutely the right closure to this series. Batman is revealed to the world, shows no fear and breaks Scarecrow. The final level as Joker is probably my favorite bit of the series. Actually, not much maybe to it. Fantastic ending and it's great to see the series close with a proper Joker battle. Loved how you kept drifting away as Joker (third person to first person) and it was just fantastic. Batman conquers his demons and rather than be broken by the reveal, he breaks biggest enemies (Scarecrow, Arkham Knight and Joker.) And the final boss battle is in your head. Brilliant.

The Knightfall ending is going to piss people off who don't finish all the Riddler stuff. Combined with the 100% ending, it's perfectly fine with Batman now truly striking from the shadows with Bruce "dead" in the eyes of everyone. Also really dug the vibe that he had Scarecrowed the two goons before taking them down. The fear they had at seeing a ghost was the same that Crane had when he was broken. Great final ending, but I suspect a lot of people will only see up to Knightfall.

Like Mass Effect 3, it's one of those games where you kind of have to "learn how to play it." Getting the sidequests all done up front makes the end proper. Seeing the last two ending bits hours, days or even weeks later hurts the impact of the whole thing. In Mass Effect 3 you had to do side missions as you play and would miss them completely by progressing the main story if you didn't do them—this kind of feels like that to me.

The Batmobile is fine. The only real issue I have with it is the chase missions where I just can't drive the thing well enough at high speeds to not be frustrated by it. The Firefly ones in particular stand out in this regard. It gets mentioned as a negative for good reason, but it really wouldn't stand out if you weren't forced to use it so much. It's really best looked at as another tool in the utility belt.

I figured Jason Todd early enough that I found it frustrating that Brucie didn't in the game. Not a major point, but it seemed really on the nose that it was him. Still, I guess he did know since his Scarecrow infected brain kept feeding him images of Jason, so he knew on some level. Ok, never mind that complaint—it was actually amazing. On that note, how Scarecrow's stuff is used in this game is utterly fantastic. I kept thinking that there weren't Asylum-like Scarecrow sections until I realized that it all was. You kept seeing stuff throughout the game (after marching into the gas at Ace Chemicals) that is probably in your head, even when not obvious. That'll be cool on replay to study and analyze what all was real.

Joker was perfect in this. He's in your head. Thinking about how much of it was your infection and how much was Brucie's guilt fucking with him after being gassed (he doesn't show up until you're all gassed up) is really fun for me. Kind of like Silent Hill 2's "how much was ever real in this dude's fucked head" brilliance.

I've compared this to Silent Hill 2, Mass Effect 3 and Mass Effect 1 in this thread. And it has Batman. This puts it on track to be one of my favorites ever.

Oh right, one last rambling: I love the lack of boss fights. They were never going to make us happy with them, so they went all Mass Effect 3 and ditched them. This is a legit love, not sarcastic. It was a bit annoying when I realized I took down Two Face without realizing in his massive army of goons, but it made perfect sense for Batman to wreck him. Same with Penguin.

[mr sabu]

so i just finished it.. great game

now to finish off the side quests and shit

brilliant performances by mark as usual and the guy who did scarecrow

[Atty]

Listening to the thugs is so great. Trying to work down the riddles so their done when I go to new game plus and they say VERY MUCH POST GAME DO NOT CLICK:

"Wait, if Bruce Wayne is Batman, who has been playing Bruce Wayne all these years?"

Also, New Game Plus question: I was looking up what carries over and it looks like it's just riddles and trophies, right? Want to get everything that can carry over knocked out. When I go into New Game Plus, it's going to be just after surgery when I can't move around and am hopped up on those wonderful pills that make Scarecrow even more wonderful, so I want as much done as possible before that.

[Tempest]

Had to take a break as I got stuck and a little bit angry

Riddler mission where you basically have to glide further and further... and I SUCK at gliding

I didn't expect Joker at all, so when he first popped up I had a real 'Holy titballs' moment. Love it.

[Chris Scott]

Ordered this weekend should be here by Wednesday.

[Atty]

Just played the Harley pre-order mission. She controlled wonderfully and it seemed a very nice change of pace (having LOUD takedowns, giggling while fighting and being generally crazy.) Then I beat it to 100% in less than five minutes.

I'd actually love a game or extended dlc as her or Catwoman that's just the anti-Batman game.

[Alf]

I love how they handle the Joker in this and the sheer variety of his little moments. Great stuff.

I found the voice acting of Batman a bit stiffer than the previous games. His facial animations are a bit dead too. I dunno, he's turned into a bit of a robot.

[Morrison]

to be honest, that's always kevin conroy, to me. the range is pretty limited.

[Atty]

People expect more range due to nostalgia. He's no Bale.

[Alf]

He didn't sound this wooden in the previous games, I'm sure.

[The Rogerer]

I remember parts of City where he sounded like a massive dickhead. He's always been the same, but voice acting has grown around him.

[Atty]

It's ok, the unwashed masses went through the same thing when they bitched about Bale's glorious BATGROWL after not bitching about it in Begins.

[Alf]

Hi batgrowl was always always cunt.

Plus, you'd expect it more in Begins where he starts off a bit feral. By Dark Knight he has been doing it a while and should be more refined.

[Atty]

He throat should be sore and worn out from doing it for so long by The Dark Knight. Try yelling constantly and see what happens. Let's not be stupid here.

[Beer-Belly]

The Riddler stuff makes me want to pull my god damn hair out.

[Atty]

Riddler is great.

He registers two accounts on message boards to argue with himself and have more intellectual discussions than he can with the unwashed masses.

[Atty]

http://kotaku.com/batman-arkham-knights-secret-intro-is-great-1715444148

There's a hidden intro to the game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdK2hjnqICY

[Chris Scott]

Haha cool that.

Got the game Wednesday and love it, can't stay off it. I'm already at the stage were when I'm out I'm thinking about the game and can't wait to get in to play it.

[Atty]

I'm down to under 20 Riddler trophies left. Really trying to hammer them all out here before touching New Story Plus. Not sure a date yet, but in the next month I'll have surgery and be stuck in bed/chairs for a couple weeks following—I want this ready to play out to 100% on nsp then as there's not much I'll be able to do. Don't really want to be fiddling with trophies then, just run through the story on buckets of painkillers.

I think I like the Riddler trophies more in this one, but it's hard to say. I find them less convoluted and the only ones that really bugged me were some of the Batmobile ones where you have to follow question marks around to a target as I kept losing them after exiting the car or making a long jump and having to start all over.

I like the map more than the past games by the end and still like the story more as a whole, I think. I find it really hard to rank the three games—again, like Mass Effect for me with the final game feeling closer to the first albeit much more refined.

I really want Arkham spin off games. Not Batman, but other characters. The Harley preorder really got me thinking a full game as her could be quite fun. Same deal for Catwoman and so forth.

[lotjx]

This has to be one of the worst games, I have ever got. The most heinous thing of all is this is close to one of the worst Batman stories in the modern age.

[Fanny]

lotjx in polar opposite opinion shocker

[lotjx]

Haters got to hate.

[Morrison]

This has to be one of the worst games, I have ever got. The most heinous thing of all is this is close to one of the worst Batman stories in the modern age.

yeeeeaaahhhh, okay.

[Matthew]

what he forgot to tell you is that he plays this game with his television off.

[Bill Casey]

http://kotaku.com/batman-arkham-knights-secret-intro-is-great-1715444148

There's a hidden intro to the game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdK2hjnqICY

"Robinson"...
Think about it...

[Atty]

Just finished to 100% and played all the endings. It ended exactly as it should.

[Beer-Belly]

Riddler is great.

He registers two accounts on message boards to argue with himself and have more intellectual discussions than he can with the unwashed masses.

He's a great villain, but his missions involving the Batmobile frustrate me to no end.


This has to be one of the worst games, I have ever got. The most heinous thing of all is this is close to one of the worst Batman stories in the modern age.

I haven't finished the game yet, but something tells me I'll still view this as an asinine and hyperbolic statement after I complete it.

[Excel]

Just got the first ending. Now I've got to do a shit ton of cleanup. This is honestly one of the best games I've ever played and against my preconceptions is actually alot better than arkham city.

[Bill Casey]

Just finished to 100% and played all the endings. It ended exactly as it should.

I am the clown with the tear-away face
Here in a flash and gone without a trace

Did you catch that it's a ghost story?

Joker is functionally the ghost of Joker; a fear toxin enhanced apparition of Batman's fears about the blood inside of him.

Jason Todd is a ghost, in that he was 'dead' and is suddenly back from the grave so to speak.

Batman at the end fakes his own death, cuts off all personal ties, and uses fear toxin to become the ghost of Batman. In his final conversation with Catwoman, he talks about the city needing a new myth that can only come from the ashes of The Batman. Criminals are a cowardly and superstitious lot.

I thought Ivy's 'fall' was seasonally appropriate. Her pollen fights fear toxin. If you pay close attention to the end sequence with Joker, after the lights go out, there are plants all over the place, including Ivy. The circular room with the Batman monuments is surrounded by trees...

Joker's face gets more and more healthy looking as the story goes on. It's reverse battle damage...

And when Barbara "shoots herself", Joker moves the gun. Since Joker can't affect real world objects, of course the sequence is not real...

Also, Batman is ignoring Joker throughout the story for a very good reason. Being ignored is what Joker fears...

[Bill Casey]

If you don't shoot anyone as Officer Owens in the opening, it changes dialogue in the game...

[Atty]

I am the clown with the tear-away face
Here in a flash and gone without a trace

Did you catch that it's a ghost story?

Joker is functionally the ghost of Joker; a fear toxin enhanced apparition of Batman's fears about the blood inside of him.

Jason Todd is a ghost, in that he was 'dead' and is suddenly back from the grave so to speak.

Batman at the end fakes his own death, cuts off all personal ties, and uses fear toxin to become the ghost of Batman. In his final conversation with Catwoman, he talks about the city needing a new myth that can only come from the ashes of The Batman. Criminals are a cowardly and superstitious lot.

I thought Ivy's 'fall' was seasonally appropriate. Her pollen fights fear toxin. If you pay close attention to the end sequence with Joker, after the lights go out, there are plants all over the place, including Ivy. The circular room with the Batman monuments is surrounded by trees...

Joker's face gets more and more healthy looking as the story goes on. It's reverse battle damage...

And when Barbara "shoots herself", Joker moves the gun. Since Joker can't affect real world objects, of course the sequence is not real...

Also, Batman is ignoring Joker throughout the story for a very good reason. Being ignored is what Joker fears...




http://i.imgur.com/k3G1t7Z.gif

[Bill Casey]

If you want to level Batman up, some of the side missions respawn enemy fights...
You can milk firefighter rescues and militia checkpoints for experience simply by not completing them...

[Chris Scott]

Looked at how far I'm in and I'm only 44%, I'm like fuck I've been playing this non stop for a week.

[mr sabu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF-gJLZ8xsg


made b the same guysa who did origins and cold cold heart

set before the events of AA... and looks amazing and by the looks of it tim is robin in this...


so bill id like to see your input on the arkham universe timeline

[Alf]

I found her costume in the Watchtower and was like "This is very cool".

[Atty]

Replaying Arkham Asylum now. Been a few years and I'd forgotten how great it was. So tight all around. I'm up to Joker's party at the end and am just cleaning up all the riddles left. Everything is just perfect in the game itself. Sure, combat improved as the series went on and it would be nice to have some of the later moves, but I haven't really found it detracting at all. I love the flying mechanics of City and Knight (and Origins if you count it), but it really wouldn't add anything in this game if it were there. The Asylum itself is compact enough that there's no place that you'd go off flying.

After playing so many of these games so much I do find it easy. I didn't die until a Scarecrow bit where I put the controller down for a drink, but I'm not really able to fault the game on anything that wouldn't be a stupid complaint except for the final boss.

It's hard to rank these games for me. They're so different that direct comparison isn't fair. I'd have it as a toss up between Asylum and Knight for the top spot. Asylum is a bit better laid out, but the story in Knight goes to places that are just fantastic. The bit leading into the endings is the best in the series and already one of my favorites in gaming.


My weird note on Asylum that makes me dumber for even saying is that I hope they port over the later Batman character model when they release Asylum and City for PS4/One. He just looks perfect in Knight and I'd love being able to rock that character skin for the whole series.

[EDIT] Just finished Asylum (again) and the Joker fight didn't really bother me this time around. Only gripe is how quickly everything wraps up at the end, but the actual game portion is near perfect. I want to take it behind the middle school and get it pregnant.

[Ozanne]

Has there been any news of the older games coming to the PS4 at all, I would love to revisit them. Plus I never played Origins as it came out just before the PS4 did.

[mr sabu]

Origins isn't as bad as many people think.. it has it's issues but it's a good game

[Ozanne]

Yeah I've heard pretty average things about that game, but if it's still the same game engine that surely it's gotta be fairly decent.

[Alf]

I love how they seem to have invested heavily in tit-physics.

[Atty]

Yeah I've heard pretty average things about that game, but if it's still the same game engine that surely it's gotta be fairly decent.

The biggest problem is that it's clunkily lifted from City. The map is the same, the engine is the same and even the shock gloves are directly lifted from the Wii U version of City. The combat is also a tad off as counters aren't as tight and there's a very slight delay that can be quite frustrating. The best thing in it are the boss battles, but those are even quite overrated. The worst of which is a fight with Deathstroke that makes the Titan Joker fight from Asylum look amazing but dumdums have somehow deluded themselves into believing is a good fight.

All that said, it's not a terrible game—just extremely average and out of place next to the other games.

And they have talked about releasing them for PS4 but everything I've heard is that it would just be Asylum and City (the ones Rocksteady made.)

[Peter Griffin]

Got to the bit where you have to destroy the cloudburst with several cobra tanks, haven't attempted yet but can see this being a giant pain in the bollocks.

[Morrison]

what's the policy on spoilers here? i know we're nearly three weeks out from the release, but it's still early going and some of us are taking the main game slow. that cloudburst plotline PG just outlined is fairly late game(i havent gotten to that point yet).

[Atty]

It's probably 70% into the story.

I'm avoiding posting anything about the game's story outside of tags.

[Matthew]

peter griffin will be cut slack because everyone knows he has some sort of mental deficiency.

[Bill Casey]

so bill id like to see your input on the arkham universe timeline

During the events of Arkham Asylum, Joker both takes a jab at either Jason Todd or Batgirl with "Looks like you could use a new sidekick"...

However, he also says "What's it like in your organization? Do you punish your hired help when they fail you? Or is that saucy outfit you make him wear punishment enough?" Present tense use of the word "make" means there's currently a Robin during the events of Arkham Asylum, and now we know it was Tim...


Here's my carefully constructed Arkham timeline...

http://d.justpo.st/media/images/2013/08/6c064775d9cc54d3a9cac97f966b83e9.gif

[Peter Griffin]

peter griffin will be cut slack because everyone knows he has some sort of mental deficiency.

And everyone knows your a pathetic weasle of a cunt so get to fuck you worthless waste of sperm.

[Matthew]

what's the policy on spoilers here? i know we're nearly three weeks out from the release, but it's still early going and some of us are taking the main game slow. that cloudburst plotline PG just outlined is fairly late game(i havent gotten to that point yet).

It's probably 70% into the story.

I'm avoiding posting anything about the game's story outside of tags.hmmm no apology from peter griffin the imbecile.

maybe he just wanted to cause trouble? who would even do that

[Chris Scott]

Not been on this since Wednesday, need to be back on it.

[Alf]

Finished.

I thought the story was really gearing up to be about how batman's fear was losing the people close to him, but in reality those people were his greatest strength and in the end he'd allow them to help him take down scarecrow. That would have been a really compelling story. Instead it was "Bats does it for himself again". Meh.

[Beer-Belly]

I'm at the point where I have to beat the Cloudburst tank. Fuck me, this is the hardest shit I can recall in any of the Arkham games. It's not even a fun challenge, honestly.

[Alf]

Just take your time, don't rush, keep an eye on the radar and the view of where the turret is pointing and time it so you pull out and attack just after it has passed to give you plenty of time to line up your shot.

[Beer-Belly]

I managed the coolants, but I have no fucking clue how I'm going to take out the actual cloudburst.

[Peter Griffin]

I managed the coolants, but I have no fucking clue how I'm going to take out the actual cloudburst.

I found a bit of a cheaty way to do this, basically just drive up to the tank and stop, this means you block it from moving and its attacks will have a hard time hitting you, then just pummel that son of a bitch

[Atty]

Just take your time.

I played it as cat and mouse/hide and seek. You don't get right in front of him, but hit him from a distance, run and then hit him again when he gets to where you were. I don't think I died after the Cobras were dealt with. Ended up doing a Wrath of Khan bit around a set of bridges where we were always moving (him on one side following and me on the other) but never right next to each other. I'd hit him from a far with the non-machine gun gun and just nibble away at his health while we circled around this spot.

Then I eventually just charged him, hit him with everything head on and won.

[Beer-Belly]

I guess my issue was just a glitch.

Earlier if I died while trying to take out the cloudburst it would take me all the back to the coolant portion of the mission. I restarted the game and it fixed it. Odd.

Also, is there a way to duplicate a save file?

[Bill Casey]

I managed the coolants, but I have no fucking clue how I'm going to take out the actual cloudburst.

A full x10 missile barrage takes out most of its health...

[Morrison]

im pretty sure i still dont have the 10x missile barrage, despite getting the upgrade from alfred after doing the panessa studios bit...

[Atty]

Nah. My sources tell me you still have the 4x.

[lotjx]

Finally beat it. I hold firm, its the worst. Even the 100% ending makes no sense.

[Morrison]

Finally beat it. I hold firm, its the worst. Even the 100% ending makes no sense.

it's quite amazing how all of your opinobs are so awful.

[Alf]

lotjx, care to explain in any kind of detail?

[Beer-Belly]

I beat the main Scarecrow/Arkham Knight campaign and I have no idea how anyone could think this is "one of the worst Batman stories ever". Some of the bits are references to already iconic Batman stories.


Finished.

I thought the story was really gearing up to be about how batman's fear was losing the people close to him, but in reality those people were his greatest strength and in the end he'd allow them to help him take down scarecrow. That would have been a really compelling story. Instead it was "Bats does it for himself again". Meh.

I agree to a certain degree, but...

Oracle, and to a lesser extent Tim Drake, help him out. Oracle plays a huge part towards the end. Batman would have been fucked without her.

[Atty]

It's lotjx...

[Bill Casey]

All of the open Books in this game contain excerpts from Gaston Leroux's The Phantom of The Opera...
Specifically from the chapter "Is it the Ghost?"...


And it was true. For several months, there had been nothing discussed at the Opera but this ghost in dress-clothes who stalked about the building, from top to bottom, like a shadow, who spoke to nobody, to whom nobody dared speak and who vanished as soon as he was seen, no one knowing how or where. As became a real ghost, he made no noise in walking. People began by laughing and making fun of this specter dressed like a man of fashion or an undertaker; but the ghost legend soon swelled to enormous proportions among the corps de ballet. All the girls pretended to have met this supernatural being more or less often. And those who laughed the loudest were not the most at ease. When he did not show himself, he betrayed his presence or his passing by accident, comic or serious, for which the general superstition held him responsible. Had any one met with a fall, or suffered a practical joke at the hands of one of the other girls, or lost a powderpuff, it was at once the fault of the ghost, of the Opera ghost."

You might find this relevant to the ending...

[The Beer Monster]

Just got this on my shiny new ps4. So far really loving the 10 minute installing.

[Morrison]

get used to that.

[The Beer Monster]

That poison ivy needs to dress more appropriately, she'll catch her death.

[Atty]

Just finishing up New Game Plus. The pacing is actually perfect once you have all the riddles and trophies found. New side missions (firefighters, watchtowers, bombs, etc) unlock as you play the story and its played perfectly on the second run.

And I love the Batmobile after adjusting the control mode and getting used to it. Love first person mode for the Batmobile to race through the streets.

[Atty]

Just got this on my shiny new ps4. So far really loving the 10 minute installing.

Everything does that on PS4. The longest for me was actually MLB: The Show. Felt like ten hours, since I had to delete the initial install and install again.

[Beer-Belly]

I'd rather get a colonoscopy from a drunk doctor than finish the god damn Riddler Batmobile missions.

[Atty]

I finished some after a very similar procedure was done to me. And did a bunch of them against whacked out on pain killers. Once I got the hang of the Batmobile (and, most importantly, changed the control mode as Morry suggested), I actually started to love the thing.

Arkham and MGS have me seriously considering this as one of the best gaming years ever. Mario Maker may only seal that, as that game will be limitless. I'll be playing with it 20 years from now. I'll be playing with all of these 20 years from now, in some form. I would say that's a stretch, but I've been playing Mario longer than that already. There have been years with more top level games, but we're just in a pretty great era for gaming.

[Nordberg]

I really don't know what you all were moaning about. I picked up Arkham Knight and I am deeply in love with it. I think they've kept what's good but made an honest attempt at adding to it and the bat mobile is really really good. It's a little bit like the ship in Assassin's creed. Some would have preferred to just repeat what they had done in the previous games, but it added a new dimension.
So far the story is awesome, characters are great. There's lots to do and it's not repetitive yet. I think the gameplay is fantastic.

Havent been in in love so much since I first picked up MGS V.

[Atty]

Good man. :yes:

[Bill Casey]

I really don't know what you all were moaning about.
By "you all", do you mean lotjx?
He's the only one I saw in this thread who hated it, and his opinions are notoriously atypical, and frequently head scratching...

This was my review...


I've had an erection for four days and my penis fell off...
I'm going to have to go to the hospital... as soon as I finish this game...

[Atty]

That seems like a bit of a harsh review. The game was much better than that. You're underselling it.

[Randolph]

I liked the game, but the Batmobile was something that I had mixed feelings about. Many of the side missions with it were frustrating and felt like busy work, although most of Arkham's missions are busy work. One mission with Batmobile got me so mad I stopped playing and haven't rented it since. I might give it another crack, but I have a couple other games I want to try first.

I love the Arkham games and Arkham City was my favorite. This game is still better than most other stuff. However, Mario Maker is like crack to me and I am going to be fixed on that for at least six more months. My courses are up to 75 stars!

[Morrison]

i loved the batmobile, especially once i switched the toggle mode and settled in to the controls. but there are, without a doubt, shit missions with it. i really disliked the majority of the riddler racetracks, cause the more complicated they got, i felt like the controls werent as intuitive and responsive, which meant retrying shit too often. stuff like riding up on walls and shifted perspectives messed with my head and dexterity. i was okay with the 'platforming' sections it was used it, for the most part.

[mr sabu]

i played the pc version when it first came out

im a little sour on it then most people..

[Bill Casey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfu5JAzchyE

[Beefy]

I enjoyed the Batmobile stuff once I flipped the controls. I've not seen anyone suggest that they liked the out of the box setting for the driving controls so that looks like a huge mistake on their part as many people wouldn't realise you can change them and may have given up on the game in frustration.

Driving was over-done though. There shouldn't have been so many tank battles and there shouldn't have been so many ludicrously over the top Riddler races. One or two of those things would have been fun and memorable.

It's my least favourite of the three main games but it's a strong game in its own right.

Arkham Asylum GOTY is €5 today actually. I've heard the PC version looks better than the PS3 game so I might pick it up at that price.

[Nordberg]

Ooh I see what you mean about changing the controls. Much better.
Did anyone else bother with the DLC extra missions? They're better done than the main game.

[Bill Casey]

DLC contains Mad Hatter, Killer Croc, Mister Freeze and Ra's Al Ghul...

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/arkhamcity/images/0/0f/Season_of_infamy.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151017211452

Would recommend...

[Matthew]

i have one of these arkham games for the ps4

i haven't watched the movies

not really sure on batman folklore besides random things i read on here.

is it a good game for non-batman fanboys

[Beefy]

Yes it is, the games are very playable with one of the most enjoyable combat systems in gaming. If you have a decent PC I'd recommend the two earlier games though.

[Atty]

I'd definitely play the first two first if at all possible. Beyond that, I don't think you really need to know the character going in.

[Nordberg]

The Johnny Charisma stage was one of the best things I've seen in years. I had Robin in 1960s skin, which added to the whole thing. Brilliant moment.

[Atty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWv07fouYvs

Just take my money already.

[Beer-Belly]

Yeah, I'd probably play Asylum and City again.

Is the DLC for Knight worth getting? I gave up on 100% completing the game because The Riddler missions with the Batmobile made me want to cry out of frustration.

[lotjx]

Mine got stolen, so I am all in.

[Bill Casey]

Is the DLC for Knight worth getting? I gave up on 100% completing the game because The Riddler missions with the Batmobile made me want to cry out of frustration.
I would get Season of Infamy...

[Nordberg]

After finishing knight I went back to City and got all the rifdler trophies. It took me fucking hours. And the. I used some points I'd accumulated in petrol and got Origins.
Origins has some awesome moments to it, but a frustrating world design. There are a lot of inaccessible places and things in the way and I don't recall that being a thing elsewhere. There seems to be a lot more fighting and repetition, and it plays a lot more like ten Yakuza games in that sense.
That aside, the story and characters are pretty awesome and worth the slog. Lots of surprises, and the way the Joker was introduced was awesome in particular. If you see it cheap, don't over-look it.

[Jez]

I would get Season of Infamy...

I agree, the rest of the story DLC is alright but very short and insubstantial whereas Season of Infamy has four new side missions with new characters, game mechanics and stories. Definitely worth picking that one up.

[Morrison]

After finishing knight I went back to City and got all the rifdler trophies. It took me fucking hours. And the. I used some points I'd accumulated in petrol and got Origins.
Origins has some awesome moments to it, but a frustrating world design. There are a lot of inaccessible places and things in the way and I don't recall that being a thing elsewhere. There seems to be a lot more fighting and repetition, and it plays a lot more like ten Yakuza games in that sense.
That aside, the story and characters are pretty awesome and worth the slog. Lots of surprises, and the way the Joker was introduced was awesome in particular. If you see it cheap, don't over-look it.
me and atty also notice that the combat in origins feels slightly off. like the counter button is delayed or something, so i remember the fights being really annoying, and dying a lot more in them. i never finished the game cause i ran into a spot where i was just getting overwhelmed by the wonky combat.

[Bill Casey]

I agree, the rest of the story DLC is alright but very short and insubstantial whereas Season of Infamy has four new side missions with new characters, game mechanics and stories. Definitely worth picking that one up.
It's worth noting "Batgirl: A Matter of Family" has a decent length, an interesting carnival setting, new gameplay elements, and a dual play boss fight with Joker/Harley/Goons...

There's not much to the story though...


If you purchase and complete "Season of Infamy", and are still itching for some content, Batgirl: A Matter of Family isn't a bad purchase...
Season of Infamy is better, though...

[Atty]

me and atty also notice that the combat in origins feels slightly off. like the counter button is delayed or something, so i remember the fights being really annoying, and dying a lot more in them. i never finished the game cause i ran into a spot where i was just getting overwhelmed by the wonky combat.

I actually beat Origins twice. Once on PS3 when it first came out and later on Wii U after having traded in the former system and saw the later for 10 bucks or something in front of Knight coming out.

Both times, I had just marathoned the other games (which isn't fair), so the timing being off really stood out to me. It wasn't the worst Batman game I've played, but it feels unfair to have the Arkham name on it. The Rocksteady games are so good that it just makes this look weaker by comparison. Flat out lifting maps from City also felt like weak sauce. Had Origins come out in the time before Asylum, I'd imagine it would be highly regarded but it came out after two of the best games ever with their name slapped on it while made by different people.

[The Rogerer]

http://i.imgur.com/263mwqD.jpg

Uhhh


http://i.imgur.com/OYdDsyy.png

Uhhh....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEXmZUtzacU

All the side by side shots look worse in the remastered version. I guess they're comparing it against PC on Max settings, though.

[mr sabu]

kinda prefer the original

[Morrison]

everybody is just more wrinkley in the remaster.

[Atty]

Hugo Strange and Catwoman (outfit looks darker) are the only two shots in that whole trailer where I'd say the original looked better.

[Atty]

Delayed indefinitely. :(

http://kotaku.com/remastered-batman-arkham-games-have-been-delayed-1782727045

[Grimario]

Good. I don't have a PS4 to play on at the moment, so well timed!

[Beefy]

Fucks sake.

[Beer-Belly]

According to Eurogamer, "Return to Arkham" is tentatively scheduled for a November release date.

Also, this isn't Arkham related, but here's the trailer for "Batman - The Telltale Series":


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za8G70bbKRY

Looks pretty cool. Bruce Wayne looks like Archer, though.

[Bill Casey]

Here's a Walkthrough of Arkham VR for your tube viewing pleasure...
If you're like me and don't VR...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0zBx1KiUU0



Also, this...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcDoWxd6HKc

[Peter Griffin]

4AM here but I just finished Arkham Asylum after playing the final stretch from about 9..It wasn't my intent but damn I got into it :lol: . Having only played Arkham Night previously, I just assumed these 2 were the same (open world) but no matter, this was excellent and i look forward to Arkham City.

[Pablo Diablo]

So Arkham knight was pretty good.

But I just can't get myself to complete all the god damn Riddler Trophies to get the true ending.

[Morrison]

So Arkham knight was pretty good.

But I just can't get myself to complete all the god damn Riddler Trophies to get the true ending.

just youtube it. i 100%'d the game before finishing it, cause i enjoy the riddler trophies for the most part, but the true ending isnt all that great and not worth the effort if you find the riddler stuff tedious.

[Pablo Diablo]

It's just about 25% too many. Just seeing how many I have left to go just kills me. So yeah I think I will just youtube it.

[Peter Griffin]

Playing through Arkham Knight again, I completed it before so I knew this was coming but the destroying the cloudburst mission has got me ready to sack it off before I have a fit. Obviously if it was the first play through then I would persevere but I dunno, just really fucking me off :/