WWE RAW - August 12, 2013 - A KICK IN THE MOUTHPIECE!!

[Kimura Kid]

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Six days left until SummerSlam, and all hell is about to break loose. CM Punk might not make it to the summer classic if chicanery ensues during his fight with Paul Heyman (it will). John Cena and Daniel Bryan both might end up with egg on their faces if Mr. McMahon has some diabolical plan in store for their WWE Title Match at SummerSlam (he does), and one group of Superstars who’s been uncharacteristically quiet of late may look to make a big impact in the final days before the summer classic (they certainly will).

Here’s the last pre-SummerSlam five-point preview.

- Paul Heyman hasn’t exactly minced words since turning on CM Punk at Money in the Bank, and with Punk still reeling from a thumping by Brock Lesnar last week, Heyman went and challenged his hobbled former Padawan to a throwdown on Raw. Punk, of course, accepted, but given that these two’s history of “fights” never seems to end without incident (ironically enough their last two were both against the same guy), look for Heyman to throw some kind of curveball to weaken Punk further before he steps into the ring with Lesnar on Sunday.

- So Kane’s got Bray Wyatt in a Ring of Fire at SummerSlam in a bout that’s set to take both Superstars, quite literally, to the edge of hell itself. But while the backwoods preacher Wyatt has certainly proven himself as sinister a Superstar WWE has ever seen, Kane is coming off one of the more balanced years of his career, if not his life. Just a year ago, he was dipping his toes into anger management with Daniel Bryan and as of last month, hugging it out wasn’t entirely off the table for The Devil’s Favorite Demon just yet. Can Kane rediscover his old, sadistic ways in time? And even if so, will it be too little, too late?

-We haven’t heard much from The Shield in the weeks leading up to SummerSlam. This is not a good thing. Despite a pair of epic Six-Man Tag Team Matches, The “Hounds of Justice” have yet to announce their plans for the summer classic, which of course means that Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins & Roman Reigns are due to make one of their patented statement attacks sometime soon. The only questions left are who and when.

- Anticipation for a WWE Title Match the WWE Universe never expected has officially built to a fever pitch. John Cena holds steady as the world-beating champion, but perennial underdog and No. 1 contender Daniel Bryan is looking every bit as dominant as The Champ these days, taking on and defeating any Superstar who dares to challenge him lately. Randy Orton, meanwhile, remains on the fringe of the rivalry with his Money in the Bank contract ready to go at a moment’s notice.

And then, of course, there’s Mr. McMahon, who doesn’t seem to want any of these competitors as WWE Champion and is surely thinking up some wicked scheme for the final minutes of the summer’s biggest party. Speaking of which …

- WWE COO Triple H has sworn to upend whatever scheme Mr. McMahon has in mind for SummerSlam, looking to interfere with The Chairman’s meddling by running interference of his own. With so many moving parts to the WWE Title Match as it is, it’s tough to see how The King of Kings could possibly keep his eyes on everything and anticipate what his father-in-law’s got in store, but for a man with seven days left to figure it out, The Game seems pretty confident. How can The Cerebral Assassin possibly thwart Mr. McMahon’s plans?

Tune in to find out!

[StoneColdWWE316]

Very excited for RAW tonight and should be a red hot Crowd in Sacramento as well.

[Kimura Kid]

Yeah I'm pretty pumped up myself. The Raw before MITB was epic if I remember correctly. Expecting much bigger things with SS around the corner!

[JT4104]

Hope the crowd brings it....cant remember how some Cali crowds react. Either way expecting a solid go home show with most of the night dedicated to Cena/Bryan and Punk/Lesnar

[VHS]

Cali crowds are always awesome, this should be a good show.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

I finished nights this morning, so my sleep pattern is destroyed... will people be following along online tonight so I can bitch about how much I hate John Cena?

[Hero!]

Ill be in here and on twitter, as always.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

There's some shite adverts on TV these days... Mostly about betting.. and then loaning money... :panic:

Saying that though, Premiership Football returns soon :panic::panic::hyper:

...so... Wrestling.

[Hero!]

Bryan's entrance got cut short. He's being BURIED.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Push most definitely over. I need a better stream that isn't 30 seconds behind :squint:

[Hero!]

Maddox to low blow Bryan right into jobberville

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

This should be the main event when RAW comes to Manchester... :yes: :yes: :yes:

[TooCool]

Fast count Maddox? Should be fun.

[The Law]

I really like starting during Bryan's entrance and having Barrett already in the ring. One, it saves time and that's more wrestling. And two, it gives the show momentum to start. No waiting, no long video packages. Right to the action.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Will Bryan ever just scream "I HAVE TIL FIVE!" :nono:

[Hero!]

He did once. Punk did it once when they wrestled too, lol.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Also, Wade needs a valet... I vote that one of the guardrails is re-named "The Barret-cade" and it helps him win matches.

[mr sabu]

wade looks not so tough without the beard

[Hero!]

This should be the main event when RAW comes to Manchester... :yes: :yes: :yes:

Bryan v Regal should main event. Regal always gets a huge reaction over there and they'd have an awesome match.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Fast count Maddox? Should be fun.

Bingo. Come on crowd, try and be a bit more pissed off.

[Hero!]

BRYAN SCREWED BRYAN

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

CHOKE HIM WITH A TIE!

[Hero!]

Miz TV how exciting

[TooCool]

Bingo. Come on crowd, try and be a bit more pissed off.

Right? The crowd just seems... happy regardless of whatever outcome.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

It's "controversial" Hero....


...I feel like their understanding of the word "controversial" is different to mine though.

I like Sandow's new briefcase.

[Kimura Kid]

Why did the end of that segment seem rushed? Barrett got the upset win due to Maddox and we are shown the replay and then it cuts right to Miz TV preview?????

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Right? The crowd just seems... happy regardless of whatever outcome.

They boo'd for 2 seconds.. then nothing. Then they only went with the "No" chant cos Bryan was miming it .... I hope it's not like this all night. No doubt they'll monster pop for Orton so we can get another 12 months of him doing squat all.

[mr sabu]

how is miz tv controversial

[Hero!]

Because

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtYHJ5M9AVQ

Just gunna watch this on loop for a little bit while the match is on.

[The Law]

"AND NOW...a song."

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Fuck this crowd.

Fuck it right in the ass.

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[Hero!]

I am very much not interested in this match. Orton is boring and he never loses, so why should I care?

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Something "controversial" might happen.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

If you took a referee + the briefcase to, say, John Cena's house... Could you cash it in and pin him while he's asleep? Just put a finger on his chest, really quiet count... ...it's like 24/7 rule! :panic:

[The Guy on the Couch]

I just don't understand how anyone would get behind Cody in this feud.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Well JBL and The King just ruined his feud saying "well you'd do the same.. and you stole the case.. and you're being a bit of a dick" for the last 10 minutes while Cody can't defend his actions and instead agrees :dunno:

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Why was Sandow so concerned? It was fucking chained on. Ugh, this needs to go in the "things that irk me" thread.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

20 man royal rumble? I'm sold.

Adrian Neville will win it (not)... Or throw Bo Dallas back out there! :panic:

[Hero!]

SHIELD PROMO YES FUCKING AMAZING

DEAN AMBROSE BEST IN THE WORLD

[G-Fresh]

Ambrose killed that.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Where's Judas?!

Ambrose needs to be on TV more.

"This is the title everyone runs from" - :lol:

[TooCool]

Battle Royals are always fun.

[Kimura Kid]

Nice Ambrose!! Really fuckin sick promo man!!

[TimeSplitter]

"Unless the ghost of Andre the Giant is in this battle royale, I ain't losing this title"

The Best.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

So.. Gillberg, yeah?

[G-Fresh]

Gillberg 4 life shucka

[Jimmy Zero]

That was nice.

Ghost of Andre.

[mr sabu]

confirmed for summer slam ambrose vs andre's ghost

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

:rofl:

Brock should have his own interview segment every week.

[Hero!]

I love that Ambrose is billing himself as the real champ. He said it at NXT a couple weeks back and I was hoping he's run with it.

[The Law]

Brock Lesnar is definitely proof that one not need be a good (or even decent) talker to get over.

[Jimmy Zero]

That was a killer video package.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

:panic: a decent feud :panic:

Oh I was just wondering when I'd see Khali again.

[Hero!]

Great video and interview. Love this feud.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Big E gunna hit the Big Ending on Khali? I can't fucking wait to see that. (has he done it already on Main Event?)

[TooCool]

I seriously wonder why the casual fans react and dance to Khali's music.

[mr sabu]

cause he's a god

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

I want to imagine that if I had the WWE app I'd have got to see Khali singing for the crowd.

[Jimmy Zero]

Big E's chest looks like a fat black chick's ass.

[Stringer Bell]

"You come at the king, you best not miss"

CM Punk quoting Omar Little was the best thing ever.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

:lol:

Oh and "controversial Miz TV" mention count - 2.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

"Shut up you little man!" :rofl:

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

.........oooooooooooookay.

[TooCool]

Wow.. Ref screwed that up. Why did Nattie let go of the sharpshooter so soon then?

[The Law]

What just happened there?

[Jimmy Zero]

Uhhh...what?

[Hero!]

Uhhh...most awkward match ending ever?

[Jimmy Zero]

lol McMahon is dressed up like an eggplant.

[Tainted Eclipse]

lol.

and i think deep down we know we all want to see a big e/khali match.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

What the fuck are Khali and Nattie doing going over Big E and AJ right before a big SummerSlam match?

Fair enough, the ending of the match was botched, but don't have Khali knock off E .. jesus christ.. Looks like a chump going into SS.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Don't question the end of the match guys, we'll find out on Total Divas in 3 months time.

[SheltonLondon]

What the fuck was that all about? That doesn't seem right, wellness violation?

[mr sabu]

was playing snake eater???? what i miss

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

What the fuck was that all about? That doesn't seem right, wellness violation?

:lol:

Now that's even beyond grasping at straws...

[G-Fresh]

AJ is so fuckin annoying.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

"And the star of THAT FINISH, Natalya!"

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

God damn this crowd is fucking diabolical. End the show Vince, teach them a lesson.

[Jimmy Zero]

I am so fucking sick to death of the evil GM/authority figure. So fucking sick of it.

It was tired in the early 2000's and is just pathetic now.

[StoneColdChris]

What the fuck was that all about? That doesn't seem right, wellness violation?

Assuming to build Natalya as AJ's next challenger for the divas championship at Night of Champions

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

What a horrible segment...


..but

HERE COMES TRIPLE H!

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

If he doesn't name Steve Austin special guest ref, it's bullshit.

[Tainted Eclipse]

with triple h's stellar record as summer slam ref

[Jimmy Zero]

Pssh, Maddox can't even get kicked in the gut right.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

So Brad's got a concussion now..


..and Triple H is gunna swerve and cost Bryan the match...

...and then Orton will come down and win...

...or Kevin Nash.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Controversial Miz TV Count - 3

[TooCool]

I would have HHH call it right down the middle. Daniel Bryan makes Cena tap out. HHH feels like he did his job correctly. Then out of no where, Orton RKOs HHH to knock him out and cashes in his contract while Vince rushes Brad Maddox to the ring as the ref and Maddox. Brad should then count fast again and Vince gets what he wants as Summerslam goes off the air.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Think Titus is picking up the win here. :shifty:

Kane Vs Wyatt - laugh off.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

So.. Not allowed to call it an Inferno Match? :dunno:

[TooCool]

So.. Not allowed to call it an Inferno Match? :dunno:

Unfortunately, the match will be decided by pinfall or submission. No one has to get burned to lose the match. I think it's because of the PG rating.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Weirdly, I never associated having to set the other guy on fire to win the match.... but now you say it... i have a memory of Kane's arm on fire? :dunno:

Guess that's not very PG these days.

[Kimura Kid]

IS WYATT WEARING A WYATT SHIRT???????/

[TooCool]

IS WYATT WEARING A WYATT SHIRT???????/

I would totally buy that shirt.

By the way, love how Kane/Taker always move in the dark. They're fast.

[SheltonLondon]

Shame we didn't get Bray on the mic tonight, boy is electric!

[mr sabu]

yep

[mr sabu]

video package from every inferno match should be ring of fire

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Best actresses ever.

[Jimmy Zero]

I don't think the Bellas bows are big enough.

[Kimura Kid]

Fuck me I'm such a ADR fan now......

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Ricardo should come out and announce every one of Del Rio's opponents each show... In Spanish.

[The Guy on the Couch]

i wonder if Kofi lost mass due to being injured or if he pulled a punk and lost mass to be a better athlete?

[Hero!]

So, Ziggler isn't there and is live tweeting instead? Wtf? Does he have backstage or something?

[The Guy on the Couch]

I hate when the ref falls loudly to that mat. If I am not paying attention it sounds like the one count which always makes the two count sound like the three count and throws me off when when it turns out to only be two.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

He made it on TV earlier.

[Kimura Kid]

I hate when the ref falls loudly to that mat. If I am not paying attention it sounds like the one count which always makes the two count sound like the three count and throws me off when when it turns out to only be two.

Dude I thought It was only me.....lol

[Kimura Kid]

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Not a huge fan of the shirt.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Was there even a question Renee asked Christian? :dunno:

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Cesaro in a cape = ratings.

Alright, it's a flag, but he's almost Austin Aries..

[mr sabu]

cesaro cape

[G-Fresh]

Fuck sayin yer gonna kill the crowd. Zeb just made Ryback look like a bitch.

[Hero!]

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Not a huge fan of the shirt.

Its certainly not great, but I love that they've already got merch. I assume this will sell out quickly, which could be fanastic for the Wyatt's.

[mr sabu]

this raw has been kinda off ehh

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Decent match, bit of an anticlimactic finish.

[Hero!]

Blah aha Ziggler is going off on Swagger on twitter. I suspect he may be drunk.

[Tainted Eclipse]

awesome ending. cesaro's stomp was great as well. with how much wwe is going right re: pushing people right now, it is sad to see where they're sticking the best wrestler in the world.

[Kimura Kid]

Crowd was really behind the Uso's tonight. I liked that match. Like the clean win for Uso's too.

[Hero!]

awesome ending. cesaro's stomp was great as well. with how much wwe is going right re: pushing people right now, it is sad to see where they're sticking the best wrestler in the world.

Cesaro? He's fine where he is. He struggled on his own and the tag division is hot as hell right now.

[Kimura Kid]

So what's the general consensus on the Uso's boots? Tape or Sleeves?

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

I hope Miz just leaves when Cena and Bryan come out.

[Tainted Eclipse]

im not ready for the controversy sure to follow

[mr sabu]

miz should always stay as pre show material

pipers pit, the speep show and mvp's lounge would have been better

[The Law]

This Raw isn't horrible or anything, but I keep looking at the clock and being surprised by how little time has passed. It's really dragging.

[Hero!]

Controversy has arrived

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

This Raw isn't horrible or anything, but I keep looking at the clock and being surprised by how little time has passed. It's really dragging.

Well there's a hour left, right? Cena/Bryan, Punk/Heyman/Lesnar.. Might be worth waiting for.


Might not.

[TimeSplitter]

Why are there couches if everybody stands? Is Ryback going to come out and throw them?

[Hero!]

Fuck man, this is fucking controversial as all hell. DUDE.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Bryan's wearing a tie under that shirt. Does Bryan have to choke a bitch?

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

:rofl:

Can't wait for Cena's goofy serious face in a couple of minutes.

[mr sabu]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Kimura Kid]

When Cena's on he's golden. So much passion. it's not fake either.

Fuck me....that was epic!!!

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

FIVE MOVES OF DOOM!

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

This is the five-points of promo doom.

1. I'm a good guy
2. I love what i do
3. I love the fans
4. Kids.
5. Hustle, Loyalty, Respect.

[Hero!]

Great, Cena is going super face and the crowd loves him. Heel it up, Bryan. HEEL IT THE FUCK UP.

[Judas Iscariot]

Oh god

[JT4104]

hell yea Cena...the cheap pop

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGfxoSZ0qjM

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

He didn't even mention "The Miz" in his greats.

[Zacharie]

Haha, this really is the best response that John can give when it comes to guys insulting his abilities. Bryan brought it onto himself.

[Kimura Kid]

That promo was special. gonna be hard for DB to say anything near with as much impact as Cena's.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

And there's the goofy Cena grin.

SEND FOR THE MAN!

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

OH SNAP.

[Zacharie]

Still, great promo work by both! I'm pumped now.

[JT4104]

Never was a time HHH DID NOT have to come out

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

"Oh hey I hear there was some limelight, hit the music!"

HERE COMES TRIPLE H!

[Hero!]

Oh fuck Orton

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Well, they fucked up the heat that generated.

[Hero!]

That's it? That's how it ends? Wtf is with all the awkward moments tonight?

[Tainted Eclipse]

god damn my dick is through the roof for this match. bryan KILLED IT. absurd that that wasnt the closing segment.

[Jimmy Zero]

That was excellent.

[The Law]

Can't wait for Kevin Nash to lay out Daniel Bryan after he beats Cena on Sunday.

[Kimura Kid]

Man felt like that promo killed a ton of DB's momentum.

[TooCool]

Quite honestly the best Miz TV segment ever.

Great stuff from Cena and Bryan. So much better when Cena isn't cracking stupid immature jokes.

[DaSaintFan]

Okay, i LOVED that face-to-face. I love the fact that both acted face-like and heel-like throughout the entire time. That was something absolutely perfect. It was "root for the guy you want, for whatever reason you want".

Although there was no reason for HHH or Orton to show up

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Showcasing the main event for your next PPV, both give passionate, hot, promos - the crowd are invested, people are buzzing... then you bring out the unneeded special Ref, fine, maybe he'll take a bump and make it look like he'll not call it down the middle, no, well ok then but at least there's potential for it to explode..

..oh no wait, Randy's got his case and his pose... end segment.

Fuck this company.

[Kimura Kid]

Showcasing the main event for your next PPV, both give passionate, hot, promos - the crowd are invested, people are buzzing... then you bring out the unneeded special Ref, fine, maybe he'll take a bump and make it look like he'll not call it down the middle, no, well ok then but at least there's potential for it to explode..

..oh no wait, Randy's got his case and his pose... end segment.



Hahaha!! that's hilarious!!

[JT4104]

I love DB...but that seemed set up for Cena to shit on DB with facts from the past. I understand what they went for but really put Bryan in a bad spot. All in all, a fun segment thought. Nice build

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

R Truth needs to join The Real American's.

Fandango has John Morrison's jacket on.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

I'm convinced JBL is drunk for the 3rd hour of RAW.

[Judas Iscariot]

In the middle of that, while Cena was going in, I just wanted Bryan to snap, slap him down and go, "No YOU don't know what it's like to love this! You don't know what it's like to travel in a van hundreds of miles to wrestle for 20 dollars hoping you get a floor to sleep on and can make it to the next city."

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Ugh.. this is one RAW I shouldn't have stayed up for. Everything is being rushed. Someone's run over bad somewhere.

[Kimura Kid]

Bert: I would like r truth so much more if he just half assed it and was like whatever no one cares

Bert: suicidal r truth = ratings

:lol:

[JT4104]

:rolleyes:...the fuck was that?

[Judas Iscariot]

What the fuck was that segment?

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Judas where where you when Ambrose had his promo? I imagined you were dancing like R Truth.

[JT4104]

In the middle of that, while Cena was going in, I just wanted Bryan to snap, slap him down and go, "No YOU don't know what it's like to love this! You don't know what it's like to travel in a van hundreds of miles to wrestle for 20 dollars hoping you get a floor to sleep on and can make it to the next city."
Yea...seemed like that was the initial direction and then they completely made a huge turn.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Yea...seemed like that was the initial direction and then they completely made a huge turn.

Would have made great TV, quick send in Triple H and Orton to defuse it.

[The Guy on the Couch]

Pretty sure the writers were drunk off their asses this week. They focused on two things and then were like "Oh shit, what do we do with the other 2 and a half hours??? fuck it we will just go with the flow" everything seems poorly put together tonight

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

What if Heyman is to Lesnar what Joseph Parks is to Abyss...

[JT4104]

Pretty sure the writers were drunk off their asses this week. They focused on two things and then were like "Oh shit, what do we do with the other 2 and a half hours??? fuck it we will just go with the flow" everything seems poorly put together tonight
Funny part was that it was like that last week as well, we just had the sweet Lesnar/Punk thing to keep our mind off of it.

[JT4104]

and the crickets continue for Ryback....lol

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

So this is a battle royal on RAW and the prize is to wrestle for a title OFF tv?

Great.

Prestigious.

[Hero!]

If they were going to cut to commercial during the entrances, why was no one coming out during the last commercial break?!! Wtf is up tonight?!

[mr sabu]

shield attacks big mark at the end

show comes out for the save

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Kurt Angle will come out and win. Rehab? Fuck rehab.

[Hero!]

So this is a battle royal on RAW and the prize is to wrestle for a title OFF tv?

Great.

Prestigious.

Theyre making the pre show to be a big deal. Last Month's pre-show was one of the best matches of the night. It's actually pretty great cause it makes the PPVs 3.5 hours instead of 3.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

But it never comes with my PPV download! :mad:

[TooCool]

No JTG or Zack Ryder in the Battle Royal? Weak.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Fandango was saving himself earlier, clearly.

[mr sabu]

id laugh if they threw us off guard and mcentyre won

[JT4104]

I'm shocked as shit that Khali is still in there....

[mr sabu]

I'm shocked as shit that Khali is still in there....

but he's a major threat in there

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Bit early to build people up for the Royal Rumble isnt it?

[Hero!]

No JTG or Zack Ryder in the Battle Royal? Weak.

Santino or Yoshi either!

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

The way this show has gone by the time it comes back on someone will have won and Punk/Heyman will have started.

[JT4104]

Someone should pull a Gail Kim and eliminate themselves and see if anyone notices

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Titus to win.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

That was ill timed.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

:lol: is there anything he can't do..

..oh shit, probably see straight now.

[DaSaintFan]

Theyre making the pre show to be a big deal. Last Month's pre-show was one of the best matches of the night. It's actually pretty great cause it makes the PPVs 3.5 hours instead of 3.

The last pre-show actually put the Uso's on everyone's "hey, this might be a damn good team" radar...

[mr sabu]

id be all for cesaro vs ambrose but we won't get it

[JT4104]

Instead of Ryback rules.....he should really yell O'Doyle Rules

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Danny Ambrose must be quaking in his boots in case Henry wins.

[mr sabu]

was all rollins................ and the uso's

[JT4104]

they are gonna be pissed when RVD loses

and I'm wrong...Honestly surprised RVD won that

[DaSaintFan]

Didn't see these last two coming...i thought Ryback would eliminate Henry and then RVD sneaks in the final elimination.

Wasn't sold on Henry congratulating... and THERE is my fave big man back on the roster!! (yes, I'm a Big Show mark)


Started to say: I wasn't sold on Henry congratulating RVD for winning, but i understand it was an "anti-Shield" feeling... so I guess I can forgive it, but that's one of those examples where.. WHY Change what Henry does when it wasn't needed

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Weeeeeeeelllllllllll, here we go...

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Someone gif Rollin's going "OH SHI-" .. that was TV gold.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Show looks like Ryback's dad.

Either that t-shirt is flattening or he's in amazing shape.

[mr sabu]

OMGZZZZZZZZ HEATZ ON ROLLINZ CAUSE HE SAID SHIT

[TooCool]

How does Paul Heyman still not have entrance music after so many years. The same applies for Vickie Guerrero too.

[Tainted Eclipse]

french grammatical error!!!!!!!

[JT4104]

Wish Heyman would have went with X's on the tape.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa430/youngflashx/guilty.png
http://cdn.instanttrap.com/trap.jpg

[mr sabu]

why do i have batman music in my head while watching this

[DaSaintFan]

I'm wondering where Axel is.. I'm surprised Heyman didn't make this a 3-on-1..

Am i the only one that thinks that Heyman is the one missing the point with his statements? Punk's not doing this for the fans.. he's doing this, as Michael Cole said, simply to get his hands on Heyman in his blind rage.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Axel's had his 30 seconds of TV earlier. I'm fine with that.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

See, a real crowd would start a "STUPID HERO" chant.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Trapception!

[JT4104]

that was great.....Punk/Lesnar and Bryan/Cena are going to be great.

[mr sabu]

show gets a 6.. just for cena bryan punk and lesner

[Hero!]

See, a real crowd would start a "STUPID HERO" chant.

:(

[StoneColdWWE316]

Solid Go-Home tonight with Cena/Bryan Promo and Punk/Lesnar fight. Was glad RVD won the Battle Royal,Big Show coming back,and the Video package on Christian.

[Jimmy Zero]

I enjoyed Raw, for the most part.

I was surprised at how much I enjoyed that Orton/Sandow match. The Cena/Bryan promo was awesome, and I loved how offended Cena seemed by the end of it. I don't understand why some thought Bryan came off looking like crap, because I thought him getting Cena to lose his cool was awesome. I still can't not stare at Cena's disgusting elbow.

[jericho1921]

The battle royal was great, bryan cena feels like a Summerlam feud of old, and the punk lesnar feud has really built well although punk hasn't seemed as motivated in the last several months as he was during his title run

[Mortalis]

As much as I liked that Bryan/Cena promo, it actually made less hyped for Summerslam. Before this promo, I could legitimately see Bryan winning clean(preferably by tap out). Now all I can see happening is Cena proving he's a wrestler and making Bryan tap.

[G-Fresh]

I got no problem with Cena winning at SummerSlam if DB wins at the next PPV.

[Fanny Batter]

Why have they put this McMahon shit in the title feud?

[The Rosk]

That slap and the reaction was great. You don't deserve it... Brilliant.

[JP]

A little bit gutted as the HHH turn is horribly obvious.

On the other hand, thinking about the long game, Bryan gets a feud to really elevate him, HHH goes back to heel, the matches and feud would probably be amazing and it gives us the opportunity of a Bryan Rumble win and WM 1st WWE Title win.

Oh God, I can't believe it, I want Bryan to lose on Sunday.

[Canadian Devil]

Love to see Bryan win and hold on to Wrestlemania where he and Punk can put on a show.

[Fanny Batter]

A little bit gutted as the HHH turn is horribly obvious.

On the other hand, thinking about the long game, Bryan gets a feud to really elevate him, HHH goes back to heel, the matches and feud would probably be amazing and it gives us the opportunity of a Bryan Rumble win and WM 1st WWE Title win.

Oh God, I can't believe it, I want Bryan to lose on Sunday.

I've always said that they should hold off somebody's first WWE title win until Wrestlemania. If Bryan loses here (and I'm a fan so I hope he doesn't), they need it to be a kickstarter to his road to the title. Which would be beating H at TLC, winning the Rumble, having to defend his opportunity in the Chamber, then beating Cena or Orton clean as a whistle in the 'Mania main event. Easy. Completely shaft him until then, build up the sympathy, then have him rampage.

[JP]

I've always said that they should hold off somebody's first WWE title win until Wrestlemania. If Bryan loses here (and I'm a fan so I hope he doesn't), they need it to be a kickstarter to his road to the title. Which would be beating H at TLC, winning the Rumble, having to defend his opportunity in the Chamber, then beating Cena or Orton clean as a whistle in the 'Mania main event. Easy. Completely shaft him until then, build up the sympathy, then have him rampage.

Agree with all of that except if I were able to choose his opponent it would be Punk.

[mr sabu]

so... if randy gets his 3rd strike while holding the case.. do they do another mitb on raw or a ppv

[Andy]

What a mess that Natalya finish was. Seemed like her fault to me, seems like she mistook AJ's flapping around for a tap out. Why the fuck is that team going over a week before Summerslam though? And no Ziggler? Shite. :no:

I'm really not a fan at all of the McMahon stuff being in the title feud. I was really pumped for the match but with a special guest and inevitable shenanigans, I can't see the match being that good. Like someone else said, I don't see Bryan winning now. The suggestion that the story of the match will be that Cena can actually wrestle and ends up making Bryan tap out makes me sad. Please no, don't kill Bryan's momentum as quickly as you killed Henry's.

[Andy]

Wow, the Cena/Bryan stuff was incredible. Amazing emotion from both.

[lotjx]

More HHH means less fun with the Bryan/Cena match. I don't see Bryan winning and we can all settle in for a Orton/Cena feud for the fall. Then HHH can beat Bryan at the next PPV for no reason. I mean remember when Punk got that win back from HHH, two years ago? Nope, neither do I

[Slare]

Oh hey Lotjx, that's a completely unbiased view of HHH and a dead on look ahead to WWE's booking that you have there.

Well done.

That C.M Punk is sure floundering now after that dastardly HHH stole his win. And look at RVD, in the PRE-SHOW because HHH held him down in 2002. I bet Booker T got fired as Smackdown GM because HHH beat him at wrestlemania 19 too.

Grrrrrr

[Kimura Kid]

I don't understand why some thought Bryan came off looking like crap, because I thought him getting Cena to lose his cool was awesome.

I personally don't think that Bryan looked like crap, I just think Cena stole his shine in that promo. It was Bryan's time to shine before SS and Cena's promo was nearly impossible to follow. Cena killed it, he evoked an emotion from me that's hard to reach. You could feel his passion and desire for the brand we all love. And quite honestly I don't believe bryan has the ability to cut a promo like that. Or proven enough to even deserve a chance to respond.....lol.

It just proved to me why Cena's the top guy and a guy like Bryan isn't........regardless of how hot he is right now.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBbQK20dqmE


What a mess that Natalya finish was. Seemed like her fault to me, seems like she mistook AJ's flapping around for a tap out.

Agreed. It looked like Natty released it before the ref called the match.....Weird fuckin ending 4 sure.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2ukRBy3RC8

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Are you kidding me? Bryan delivers a passionate promo, Cena does too - but it's the same promo we've heard every time he main events against someone popular.. and BRYAN comes off worse? Hell no (no pun intended).

If anything killed it, it's Triple H and Blandy Orton. Get used to that sentence, cos it's how every review of Summerslam will end as well.

[Peter Griffin]

Soooo reading some of Zigglers tweets from last night, Something seemed a bit off. Maybe he was given the night off for being in no fit state to work?

[Peter Griffin]

Are you kidding me? Bryan delivers a passionate promo, Cena does too - but it's the same promo we've heard every time he main events against someone popular.. and BRYAN comes off worse? Hell no (no pun intended).

If anything killed it, it's Triple H and Blandy Orton. Get used to that sentence, cos it's how every review of Summerslam will end as well.

Cena was amazing last night no matter what anyone says if Bryan can shoot him down why shouldnt Cena give it back? Excellent work by both men.

[JP]

Are you kidding me? Bryan delivers a passionate promo, Cena does too - but it's the same promo we've heard every time he main events against someone popular.. and BRYAN comes off worse? Hell no (no pun intended).

Exfuckingactly.

Cena was fine, but it was the same damn thing we hear every bloody time. "IT'S ABOUT THEM, THEY CHEER, THEY BOO, THEY BLAHBLAHBLAH! RESPECT BLAHBLAHBLAH YOU EARN THIS BLAHBLAHBLAH!"

I could do with a little less shouty shouty from Bryan, but he was the one who came off best.

[Jimmy Zero]

Honestly, the only reason that Cena promo was anything more than the boring bullshit he's been spouting for the last however many years is because he seemed legitimately irked about Bryan saying he's not a wrestler and doesn't deserve what he has. There was actual passion and emotion behind what Cena said, and even though he's said it a million times, at least it didn't feel like he was going through the motions. The end of that promo with the Japanese slap in the face thing was amazing. Cena lost his shit and got pissed. We don't see that from him often. Usually, it's goofy smile time, or bathroom humor. It was nice to see him take a promo/confrontation seriously.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

Cena was amazing last night no matter what anyone says if Bryan can shoot him down why shouldnt Cena give it back? Excellent work by both men.

He delivers that promo brilliantly, no doubt.

And too right he should, he's done it 14 times before.

[Kimura Kid]

I feel like Bryan came off like every guy that has never held the championship. He whined and yelled and sounded like every guy that wants what Cena has. Nothing of any substance came from Bryan AT ALL. And Cena talking about the work he has put in day in and day out for 12 years while traveling around the world holding the championship and defeating everyone put in front of him wasn't repetitive. Talking about being proud of what he's accomplished and what he stands for wasn't what we've heard before either. You could sense the sincerity and passion in his promo.

I felt nothing at all from Bryan. It's his big time to shine and he didn't produce anything magical......Bryan was mediocre at best in that promo.....

Just seems like blind Cena hate and D-Riding on Bryan cuz he's an internet darling.

[Hotbeef-Injection]

I think Bryan winning his first WWE championship at Mania would absolutely be a great way to end the PPV but i don't see it. As much as I'd like to think he's got the full backing of WWE I don't think they see him as 'the man' or even close. He's behind Cena, Punk, Blandy and Shemus, and hell even Taker would cede him.

I really like the direction this is taking. If anyone cam pull it off, it's Bryan. He's a likable and believable underdog. Him against the McMahons isn't gonna be Austin vs Vince but it'll hopefully be better than Triple H vs Punk.

If Orton steals the title on Sunday then it'll truly be a weird one
I mean who do you put him in a program with? Cena for a couple of months? Triple Threat?

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

I felt nothing at all from Bryan. It's his big time to shine and he didn't produce anything magical......Bryan was mediocre at best in that promo.....

Just seems like blind Cena hate and D-Riding on Bryan cuz he's an internet darling.

Bryan called Cena a parody of wrestling, that Cena is in it for fame/glory and not for wrestling. Cena countered that by saying he tours the world and helps/enriches lives because of who he is in the company.. but he is an entertainer at the end of the day, Bryan was right about the wrestling.

Bryan effectively said he was the Best In The World (TM) while Cena went on about his "I get boo'd and cheered yet I still go on" that he's been doing for a looooong time. He said he is as good as every name Cena mentioned, yet Cena says he doesn't respect him...

Yeah, Bryan wants the title but his whole point was Cena is complacent, egomaniacal and disrespectful whereas Bryan's whole life is wrestling and yes, winning the title would grant him absolution/respect in his mind (He's not the weak link, after all).

Bryan showed his disdain for Cena the way WRESTLING does, by not giving him the "respect" to slap him. Which broke Cena's cool, eventually.

If you missed that, and thought was just talking about a title belt then you need to rewatch it.

The Rock mocked Cena's gimmick, Punk mocked Cena's position/ability - Bryan stabbed Cena's pride right in the back, then kicked it in the crotch.


Oh and then Trips and Orton turned up to ruin the segment.


To say "oh you all just like Bryan is cos he's not Cena" and that's 100% true, most of the time, but I wasn't saying Cena sucks.. I was implying that saying Bryan came off worse is wrong. In my opinion.

[Kimura Kid]

Great post!

We can agree to disagree.....:yes:

That's the beauty of WWE! :cheers:

We both came to our own conclusion to the same segment....kinda cool in my opinion.

[turdpower]

Is Henry a face again? That was quick.

[Hero!]

He went face the night after MITB when The Shield attacked him. It kinda sucks, unless we get to see him squash Ryback for a bit.

RAW was a bit hit & miss last night, but what was good was damn good. The Shield's promo, the battle royal, Cena/Bryan, and the Punk/Heyman/Lesnar stuff was all fucking great. The rest of the show was very much just them treading water and playing it safe till the PPV...aside from AJ losing clean. I don't get that.

And the backstage divas shit was horrible. Bleh.

[Newf]

Soooo reading some of Zigglers tweets from last night, Something seemed a bit off. Maybe he was given the night off for being in no fit state to work?
I didn't notice that until I checked just now, but yeah... he seemed to be taking a page out of Zack Ryder's book.

And that comment about teaching AJ that "new japanese custom" was especially iffy.

[Hero!]

He's been acting very bizarre lately with some of the shit he says on twitter. After his botched WHC run, he may have finally given up on this wrestling shit.

[Kimura Kid]

Do you blame him?

[Peter Griffin]

Yes. Who knows how things would of turned out if he hadnt got injured. As it is they have turned him face and are looking to get him over in that role. But if hes going to act like a cock why should they put the effort in? He is good (and he knows it). But he has no god given right to anything.

[chatty]

What the fuck is Cody v Sandow meant to be. Is this a heel v heel feud because thats the way its playing out. Commentary calling Cody a sour loser throughout the Sandow/Orton match, Cody admitting he would have threw Sandow of the top of the ladder if in the same situation and pretty much admitting he is a hypocrite. If this is meant to be a Cody face turn then they seriously botched it up cause Cody just comes across as a little prick and there is no reason to sympathize with him, if anything I would back Sandow because despite being a cocky heel he has been in the right throughout the feud.

[The Rogerer]

Cody Rhodes painted himself into a corner with that commentary segment. He seemed to take the wind out of his own sails and accept everything that was put to him, somehow forgetting that JBL is meant to be a heel.

At one point JBL called him a sore loser and he said, "Sore loser? ...naaaaah."

[Beer-Belly]

Why have they put this McMahon shit in the title feud?

I don't know, but my interest dropped slightly when he made that announcement. This only makes sense if Bryan wins and Triple H pedigrees him after the fact so Orton can cash in. If they do the same thing after Cena wins clean... ugh.

[Tainted Eclipse]

haha, checked out ziggler's twitter and yeah it is utterly bizarre, especially for a guy who just had a face turn.

[Peter Griffin]

Yeh his little description on his profile is a bit disconcerting, Describes himself as a stand up comic who wrestles to pay the bills, And former world champion whatever. Pull yourself together Dolph. Its not like he is on Superstars every week, They are trying to build him up as a face, But if he is going to spit his dummy out I really dont care if he gets put down the card to curtain jerker.

[Andy]

God you are so miserable sometimes. His profile is obviously sarcastic.

Sometimes people have to have a go at someone or publicly criticise people to get themselves noticed. CM Punk for example, would probably be working in Japan or something if he didn't "spit his dummy out".

I swear you'd prefer a product where John Cena faces Alberto Del Rio every week in front of a bunch of kids who cheer Cena, boo ADR and clap politely at the end of the match.