Ca$h Fantasy Football League (Pros Only)

[Fro]

Link to League Homepage (http://fantasy.espn.com/football/league?leagueId=246500)

2023 Results
1. Fro (12-2) [$500]
2. Matthew (10-4) [$100]
3. Pablo Diablo (9-5) [$50]
4. BGMaverick (8-6)
5. BBF (9-5) [$50]
6. kdestiny (7-7)
7. Torn (7-7)
8. Beefy (6-8)
9. MMH (6-8)
10. Caito (6-8)
11. Alex (5-9)
12. Chris Scott (5-9)
13. Honey_Badger (4-10)
14. Morrison (4-10)

2022 Results
1. BGMaverick (9-5) [$450]
2. Chris Scott (10-4) [$200]
3. BBF (7-7) [$25]
4. Honey_Badger (7-7) [$25]
5. Pablo Diablo (9-5)
6. Alex (9-5)
7. Caito (7-7)
8. Matthew (7-7)
9. Beefy (7-7)
10. Torn (6-8)
11. Fro (6-8)
12. MMH (5-9)
13. Morrison (5-9)
14. kdestiny (4-10)

2021 Results
1. kdestiny (8-6) [$400]
2. MMH (8-6) [$100]
3. Pablo Diablo (10-4) [$50]
4. Morrison (11-3) [$150]
5. Honey_Badger (9-5)
6. Chris Scott (9-5)
7. Torn (8-6)
8. BGMaverick (6-8)
9. Caito (6-8)
10. Fro (5-9)
11. BBF (5-9)
12. Matthew (5-9)
13. Alex (4-10)
14. Beefy (4-10)

2020 Results
1. Pablo Diablo (9-4) [$400]
2. Torn (8-5) [$100]
3. BGMaverick (10-3) [$100]
4. Matthew (10-3)
5. Fro (7-6)
6. MMH (7-6)
7. Honey_Badger (7-6)
8. Caito (6-7)
9. Chris Scott (5-8)
10. Beefy (5-8)
11. Morrison (2-11)
12. Alex (2-11)

2019 Results
1. BGMaverick (8-5) [$400]
2. Fro (8-5) [$100]
3. Bandit (9-4) [$100]
4. Matthew (9-4)
5. Chris Scott (8-5)
6. Beefy (7-6)
7. MMH (7-6)
8. Honey_Badger (7-6)
9. Caito (6-7)
10. Torn (3-10)
11. Morrison (3-10)
12. Cewsh (3-10)

2018 Results
1. Matthew (10-3) [$500]
2. MMH (9-4) [$100]
3. Honey_Badger (8-5)
4. Cewsh (8-5)
5. Fro (8-5)
6. Torn (7-6)
7. Bandit (7-6)
8. BGMaverick (7-6)
9. Caito (6-7)
10. Chris Scott (4-9)
11. Beefy (4-9)
12. Myles (0-13)

2017 Results
1. Honey_Badger (9-4) [$400]
2. Fro (11-2) [$200]
3. Morrison (8-5)
4. GBF (7-6)
5. Cewsh (9-4)
6. MMH (7-6)
7. Matthew (6-7)
8. Torn (5-8)
9. Dave (5-8)
10. Caito (5-8)
11. Myles (4-9)
12. Beefy (2-11)

2016 Results
1. Torn (8-5) [$300]
2. Honey_Badger (12-1) [$180]
3. MMH (8-5)
4. Matthew (7-6)
5. Myles (7-6)
6. Chris Scott (7-6)
7. Dave (6-7)
8. Beefy (6-7)
9. Fro (6-7)
10. Morrison (4-9)
11. Caito (4-9)
12. Christopherson (3-10)

2015 Results
1. Matthew (9-4) [$380]
2. Beefy (9-4) [$100]
3. Caito (9-4)
4. Myles (8-5)
5. Torn (8-5)
6. Kneeneighbor (7-6)
7. Fro (6-7)
8. Chris Scott (6-7)
9. Christopherson (5-8)
10. Dave (5-8)
11. hithit (3-10)
12. Mikey_Jones (3-10)

2014 Results
1. Dubya (9-4) [$280]
2. Christopherson (10-3) [$120]
3. Dave (8-5)
4. Myles (7-6)
5. Isaac Yankem (7-6)
6. Kneeneighbor (6-7)
7. Matthew (6-7)
8. Fro (6-7)
9. Torn (4-9)
10 Sinner (2-11)

2013 Results
1. Torn (10-3) [$160]
2. Dubya (8-5) [$40]
3. Fro (8-5)
4. Dave (7-6)
5. Isaac Yankem (7-6)
6. Matthew (7-6)
7. Cewsh (5-8)
8. Sinner (5-8)
9. Christopherson (5-8)
10. Myles (3-10)

^ These standings do not reflect the results of consolation playoff games between eliminated teams (except for the $50 third place game, if applicable). Hence these final standings differ from the ones listed by ESPN.

[Torn]

If its on ESPN then sure.

[Torn]

<insert obligatory BBF joke>

[Matthew]

leon my owl tells me i would be interested

[Fro]

If its on ESPN then sure.

I still prefer Yahoo. I dunno, something about their general fantasy layout that just seems a lot simpler and more accessible. I have heard that ESPN is better with auto drafting, which is an area Yahoo is admittedly shite at (no matter how thoroughly you set your rankings Yahoo will give you multiple kickers, it seems).

Anyway that was just a matter of discussion, I'm fine with doing ESPN if it means more people will join.

[Dubya]

If its on ESPN then sure.

Pretty much the same thinking here. I'm down to invest a bit in the league, but I'd greatly prefer ESPN to Yahoo as well.

[Dr Isaac Yankem DDS]

Sure.

[Fro]

K so we've got 5 people interested including myself. A couple more and we could be in business. 10 would be the ideal number.

[Dave]

I'd probably be interested, but less so if I couldn't make the draft.

[Christopherson]

I'm in as well but as Dave said this is one draft none of us would want to miss, we would really have to nail the date down.


Oh and I would definitely prefer ESPN.

[Fro]

Ok so we've got a good crew here. It'll be ESPN.

Let's start throwing out some ideas to get the ball rolling...

1. How much do you want the buy in to be? Like I said I was thinking somehere between $20 and $40.
2. When's a good draft time??
3. In terms of positions/scoring, I'd say ESPN standard should be our starting point but off hand I'm not sure exactly what that is (is there a flex?). I like a flex if there isn't one. But throw out any ideas you want for settings.

[Torn]

ESPN standard has a flex. We should just stick with that, no point messing with it.

Plenty of time to organise a draft time yet but I'm pretty flexible as long as it's not in the middle of the night UK time.

[Matthew]

lets just do $20 right now to see how this works out, then up the stakes next year after i win this one.

[Torn]

$20 sounds fine for year 1.

You thought about using LeagueSafe (http://www.leaguesafe.com/) for the funds, Fro? People might be more comfortable with that, also lets them pay how they want I guess.

[Fro]

I haven't heard of that but it's fine by me

[Christopherson]

I'm flexible with any dates as long as it's not during the hours of 12pm to 8pm on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays (UK Time).

[Bert]

Fro, I'm in if you don't mind that I can't pay til the 1st

[Fro]

Do you mean August 1? That would be fine. The earlier the better but the deadline for payment would be the draft.

1. Fro
2. Torn
3. Matthew
4. Dave
5. dubya
6. Christopherson
7. Dr Isaac Yankem DDS
8. Bert
9.
10.

2 more spots

[Bert]

Yeah, August 1st.

[hithit]

leaguesafe is good fro. we use it for the baseball league im in. takes credit or debit cards. if you're getting close to draft time and need a guy pm me and ill join up, but only as an absolute last option.

[Judas Iscariot]

I'm in.

[Judas Iscariot]

Not in if the draft is before preseason week 3 though because everyone I draft will probably break their legs that week.

[Fro]

I was setting up an account on leaguesafe and it appears that if you allow credit card payments then everyone gets hit with a 3% fee. If you do e-payments only (ie wire it from your bank account) then you get no fees. The 3% fee would only be 60 cents each on a $20 buy in so I assume we'd just do that.

[Fro]

I'll get the ESPN and leaguesafe invites out tonight.

$20 buy in means we'll have a $200 pool. I'm thinking $160 for the champion and $40 for the runner up, unless people prefer everything go to the champion..

[Torn]

Nice one. I don't mind the runner up getting some of the pool but I also like maybe the regular season winner getting a small slice? As the playoffs are a bit of a lottery as we know. Another idea to throw out there I guess.

[Matthew]

yea


just give me the cash now

none of you have a shot

[Judas Iscariot]

Yeah I'm actually out. Just got my fourth IRL league and I'm running one myself. Likely wont have time.

Enjoy.

Beat Matthew.

[Fro]

In terms of draft time, since we have people from different continents I reckon it's going to have to be a weekend, sometime between 11am and 5pm US eastern time (4pm - 10pm London time). The weekend immediately before the season starts is Sept 1 which is a holiday weekend over here, so I'm thinking the weekend prior is what we should target (Aug 24-25).

Let me know if that works, and which day (Sat vs Sun) and times are preferable.

For the payout, I like the idea of awarding some amount to the regular season champ. Do we want to just do regular season champ and league champ, leaving out the runner up? I feel like if we pay to all 3 it would be split a little thin.

A COUPLE SPOTS ARE STILL OPEN. It's only a $20 buy in, post if you're interested.

[Fro]

Thinking out loud here..

150 to league champ, 50 to regular season champ

Or

140 to league champ, 40 to regular season champ, 20 to finals runner up

[Dave]

In terms of draft time, since we have people from different continents I reckon it's going to have to be a weekend, sometime between 11am and 5pm US eastern time (4pm - 10pm London time). The weekend immediately before the season starts is Sept 1 which is a holiday weekend over here, so I'm thinking the weekend prior is what we should target (Aug 24-25).

Let me know if that works, and which day (Sat vs Sun) and times are preferable.

For the payout, I like the idea of awarding some amount to the regular season champ. Do we want to just do regular season champ and league champ, leaving out the runner up? I feel like if we pay to all 3 it would be split a little thin.

A COUPLE SPOTS ARE STILL OPEN. It's only a $20 buy in, post if you're interested.I definitely can't do that weekend - it's a holiday weekend over here and I'm at Reading Festival and in a field with no internet access the whole weekend.

[Fro]

K, how about Aug 17-18

[Dr Isaac Yankem DDS]

A Sunday would be best for me.

[Fro]

Alright gentlemen. We've still got 8 people who expressed interest in playing for some cash:

1. Fro
2. Torn
3. Matthew
4. Dave
5. dubya
6. Christopherson
7. Dr Isaac Yankem DDS
8. Bert

If anyone else wants to play, speak up! We're only playing for $20.

To those on the above list: are you still down? Are you okay with an 8-player league if that's what we've got? Personally I'm fine with it, 8 is enough. If that's the case we'd have a pool of $160. I'm thinking $60 to the regular season champion and $100 to the playoff champion. That's some decent scratch. But we need to get this locked down soon-ish. Obviously everyone wants to make the draft if they're putting money down. I just found out I'm going to be gone the weekend of Aug 17-18. Dave is unavailable the weekend of Aug 24-25. So we're looking at the weekend immediately preceding the season, Aug 31-Sept 1, which is ideal except that it's a holiday weekend in the states. Personally I don't have plans to go away that weekend so I could do it. Thoughts????

[Cewsh]

I totally missed this. Count me in.

[Christopherson]

Not to sound like a broken record I'm fine any of those weekends.

[Dave]

Alright gentlemen. We've still got 8 people who expressed interest in playing for some cash:

1. Fro
2. Torn
3. Matthew
4. Dave
5. dubya
6. Christopherson
7. Dr Isaac Yankem DDS
8. Bert

If anyone else wants to play, speak up! We're only playing for $20.

To those on the above list: are you still down? Are you okay with an 8-player league if that's what we've got? Personally I'm fine with it, 8 is enough. If that's the case we'd have a pool of $160. I'm thinking $60 to the regular season champion and $100 to the playoff champion. That's some decent scratch. But we need to get this locked down soon-ish. Obviously everyone wants to make the draft if they're putting money down. I just found out I'm going to be gone the weekend of Aug 17-18. Dave is unavailable the weekend of Aug 24-25. So we're looking at the weekend immediately preceding the season, Aug 31-Sept 1, which is ideal except that it's a holiday weekend in the states. Personally I don't have plans to go away that weekend so I could do it. Thoughts????I can't do the Saturday, but could do the Sunday. Probably. Annoyingly the weeks immediately before the start of the season are when I spend most time at festivals.

[Fro]

Draft is currently set for:

Date: Sun, Sep 1, 2013
Time: 12:00 PM ET (New York Time)

This is looking like the day it's gonna have to be.

To everyone playing: GET REGISTERED! We've got plenty of time but I want to get this moving so people don't flake. Everyone should have gotten an invite to the ESPN league via email (except Matthew who I still need an email from), and here is the link to the payment site:

https://www.leaguesafe.com/join/1518025/rajah-fantasy-football

You don't need to pay yet as we're still getting things settled but please register

[Dave]

That's 5pm UK time I believe, so works well for me. Well, I'll at least be able to make it, my physical and mental state, lets see how that goes...

[Dr Isaac Yankem DDS]

That day will work for me.

[Torn]

Suits me.

[Christopherson]

:yes:

[Cewsh]

:yes:

[Dubya]

Can you send me another invite, please? I think I deleted mine without noticing..

[Fro]

Sweet so it's looking like Sept 1 will be the day. Me and Cewsh are already paid up.

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/5973/jynz.jpg

https://www.leaguesafe.com/join/1518025/rajah-fantasy-football

[Bert]

So, the invite went to the spam folder but I found it and accepted.

[hithit]

do you need another guy?

[Fro]

do you need another guy?

Yep. $20 buy in. PM me your email for an invite

[hithit]

sent it. let me know if you got it

[hithit]

ill get it tomorrow. gonna watch the rest of raw and go to bed after its over.

[Dubya]

Ok, I'm joined in.. Sept.01 works fine for me as long as it's in the afternoon or evening.

[Dr Isaac Yankem DDS]

Paid.

[Fro]

Ok, I'm joined in.. Sept.01 works fine for me as long as it's in the afternoon or evening.

We have it set for noon eastern time right now... is that too early for you? I'm guessing people would be okay if we pushed it back an hour or two (2pm ET would be 7pm London)

[Dubya]

Yeah, it's just a bit too early cuz I'm generally getting off work around 11:30 (CT) on Sundays.. if you could move it back just a bit to say.. 1:30 (ET), that would give me enough time to get home, etc.

[Torn]

I'd rather it was a few hours later too, rather than in the middle of football/food on a Sunday

[Fro]

K. I'm good with whenever. 2pm eastern/7pm London will be the earliest we'll do, but we could push it back as much as 5pm eastern/10 PM London

[Matthew]

i will only do the draft if it is right now

[Dubya]

Well, if by RIGHT NOW you mean .. RIGHT NOW .. I'm down. :)

[Christopherson]

I will be paying this Thurs or Friday.

[Fro]

Sweet. If anyone else is interested in joining, we have a spot open. The buy in is $20.

[hithit]

im in. ill pay in the next couple of weeks.

[Torn]

Sweet. If anyone else is interested in joining, we have a spot open. The buy in is $20.

Isn't that the full 10 with hitty?

I'll pay shortly

[Fro]

Isn't that the full 10 with hitty?

I'll pay shortly

It is including Matthew but I'm not sure if he's going to play.

[Torn]

Of course he is

[Fro]

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6344/jo0d.jpg

https://www.leaguesafe.com/join/1518025/rajah-fantasy-football

[Dubya]

I will get my fee paid up on the 23rd.

Is there any way to add to the pot throughout the season?
Maybe some $5 side-bets here and there, with the $ going into the winner pot and the loser just changes their avatar for the week or something?
Just a thought ..

[Myles]

I have been in a pay league for a couple years now...I came 3rd the first year and 2nd last year... it is a ten team league. Standard espn scoring system... I have second overall pick, who would you take? Foster? Petersen? Doug Martin? Let me know boys :)

[Cewsh]

Honestly? Jamaal Charles, if you believe he'll be healthy for week one.

[Dubya]

and if you're wondering .. he just has a foot strain .. no structural damage, no Lisfranc injury or anything and should be practicing as early as tomorrow ..

[Matthew]

im n

money will be when I FEEL LKE IT

[hithit]

if ap is available at 2, you take him. that's about as big of a no brainer as you can get. if he isn't, go foster or martin. charles is to injury prone.

[Myles]

yeah, im assuming ap goes first. if he doesn't I take him no questions asked. But I'm thinking he goes first, then I guess I'll take foster? but he has injury problems as well. It is a snake draft, so my next pick won't be for ages, but I'll still probably go RB RB RB. This has been my strategy and it usually works. Although, first year I had 10th pick and Rogers was there so I grabbed him. Then I went RB RB RB. Last year was all RB.

[Myles]

you boys don't have any spots left do you? if anyone bails or doesn't pay up... let me know and I will join asap. Wish I had seen this a couple weeks ago.

[Fro]

you boys don't have any spots left do you? if anyone bails or doesn't pay up... let me know and I will join asap. Wish I had seen this a couple weeks ago.

We have 10 but my guess is at least one person will bail. I'm gonna give the current members another week to pay and then I'll open it up to alternates.

[Myles]

cool, keep me in mind

[Dubya]

if ap is available at 2, you take him. that's about as big of a no brainer as you can get. if he isn't, go foster or martin. charles is to injury prone.

He's really no more injury-prone than AP .. he's just had the one major injury in his career.

I've seen AP and AF go first in pretty much every mock I've done .. every now and then you get the odd Rodgers or Marshawn pick, but it's almost always AP or AF and then a slew of RBs to follow.

[Cewsh]

Foster is making me nervous as hell this year. The man has had so much wear and tear, and his stats have been declining. Martin had one great year, which is propped up slightly by one amazing game, but he's unproven and who knows how Josh Freeman will be. Lynch is getting older and might be a great pick, but I think the Seahawks offense was a mirage last year and I don't think anybody keeps up those stats. Rice will be sharing time with Pierce. The only running back in the top 5 whose stats might reasonably be expected to IMPROVE is Charles, who is going to be getting a boatload of balls thrown his way and more carries overall. He might get injured and he might not, but he has more potential upside than anyone in this draft.

[Torn]

I WILL PAY TODAY

[Bert]

I can't do 2pm on Sunday, work won't let me off. I would need later but brits would probably be sleeping so I don't know.

[Cewsh]

When do you get off work? It's a 5 hour time difference, so anytime before 8 is probably reasonable.

[Bert]

I won't have my schedule for that week until this Saturday but they've been scheduling me 11-730 on Sundays.

[Myles]

id like later as well since 11am pacific is 4am Monday morning here in Sydney, but if it must be done I'll set the alarm, get the coffee and cigarettes going and draft the shit out of it. :)

[Myles]

btw I should announce that a spot opened up and MYLES IS IN!

[Myles]

paid :)

[Christopherson]

Okay, that's me paid up.

Let the games begin.

[Dubya]

As I said, I'll be paying on the 23rd. That hasn't changed.

[Fro]

6 people are paid. I believe Dubya, Torn, Bert and Matthew are the ones who still need to pay (correct me if I'm wrong).

In terms of draft time, we can push it back to later in the day but can't make it too late for the UK folks. Bert, I forget where you are located but if you are working until 7:30pm eastern time then that is tough since an 8pm start would be 1am in London. If it is the case that you can't make the draft, would you be out or okay with an autodraft?

If no one opposes, we should push it back another few hours so that Myles doesn't have to get up at 4am.

Something like:
5pm New York/10pm London/7am Sydney
or
6pm New York/11pm London/8am Sydney

[Torn]

Oh shit, completely forgot to go and do it when I said it before :lol:

All paid up now.

[Dave]

I'd have problems going later than 10pm. I get back from a festival that afternoon, and will likely be dead on my feet #draftexcusealreadyprepared

[Bert]

Bert, I forget where you are located but if you are working until 7:30pm eastern time then that is tough since an 8pm start would be 1am in London. If it is the case that you can't make the draft, would you be out or okay with an autodraft?

Not really okay with autodraft, if I'm paying I want to be there to get the best people I can.

I'll see if kangus wants my spot.

[Fro]

I'd have problems going later than 10pm. I get back from a festival that afternoon, and will likely be dead on my feet #draftexcusealreadyprepared

Gotcha. I just changed it to 4:30pm New York/9:30pm London/6:30am Sydney. I believe that would be Monday morning for Myles, so I'm not sure if he has work or anything.


Not really okay with autodraft, if I'm paying I want to be there to get the best people I can.

I'll see if kangus wants my spot.

Understandable. Did you get your schedule and is it what you thought it would be?

[Bert]

Yeah, 11-730 on sunday and 130-10 on friday and saturday.

My work really doesn't want me doing fantasy drafts apparently.

[Dubya]

Sounds like you need a new job, Bert. Get your priorities straight.. ;)

[Myles]

I'm fine with anytime, I work afternoons, so anytime in the morning is fine for me. I don't mind getting up in the middle of the night either, I'll just go back to sleep after I draft my all star lineup. :)

[Fro]

Anyone want Bert's spot? $20 buy in, draft on sept 1.

7 people have paid btw. Missing Dubya (who is planning to pay tomorrow) and Matthew.

[Myles]

matthew is a shady guy, watch out for him... never trust anyone with pink hair

[Sinner]

i'd be interested, if there's still an open spot!

[Myles]

what was your previous user name sinner?

I can't place you, but you have 12k posts.

[Fro]

i'd be interested, if there's still an open spot!

There is. PM me your email and I will give you the invite to our ESPN league.

Payment is being done through the site LeagueSafe:

https://www.leaguesafe.com/join/1518025/rajah-fantasy-football

[Dubya]

Paid.

[Fro]

Sweet. 8 people are paid. Sinner, I'll get you the ESPN invite when I get home tonight.

We've got a week yet but now would be a good time to finalize the nitty gritty:

1. Payout... Are we good with $150 to league champion and $50 to regular season champion? I'm definitely open to suggestion on this but that seems fair.
2. Draft... Sept 1 is the date but we have some leeway on time. It's currently set for 4:30 PM New York/9:30 PM London /6:30 AM Sydney (actually I think it's Sept 2 for Sydney but I'll let you figure that out Myles). This is about the later limit so that our Brittish folk don't have to stay up but it could potentially be moved earlier. If no one objects it's going to stay where it's at, so speak now or forever hold your peace.
3. Rules- everything is standard ESPN rules.

[Christopherson]

On the payout I would personally like something for the runner up but it isn't something I'm overly bothered about.

[Dubya]

Personally, I do like the idea of the runner-up money going to the regular season winner.. the season is a long, grueling stretch.. you should get something for winning it. No one remembers second place anyway.

[Myles]

I think a breakdown of

playoff league champion 100
playoff runner up 50
regular season winner 50

would be cool. My other league is a 50 buy in and it goes like

playoff winner 400
playoff runner up 100

I came 3rd the first year so no money :( and second last year, lynch running for 150 and 2 tds on Christmas eve cost me the league last winter.

[Dubya]

How bout .. $120 for the winner.. $60 for the regular season winner and runner-up gets their $20 back?

[Myles]

what are the rules on colluding? you gotta watch that matthew guy he really is greasy

[Fro]

I'm thinking

$120 champion
$40 regular season champ
$40 runner up

[Dr Isaac Yankem DDS]

$120 $40 $40 sounds good to me.

[Myles]

yeah I can dig it

[Matthew]

you will get money soon

[Matthew]

then i will get all the money

[Fro]

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/2042/suu9.jpg

https://www.leaguesafe.com/join/1518025/rajah-fantasy-football

Draft: Sunday Sept 1, 4:30 PM New York / 9:30 PM London / 6:30 AM Sept 2 Sydney

[Sinner]

what was your previous user name sinner?

I can't place you, but you have 12k posts.


I have always been Sinner, believe it or not. Were you Myles P? I remember that dude

Also, I joined. Have not paid yet. Will do.

[Myles]

Yeah, I was Myles P as well as Myles Petersen, but now I'm just Myles. :)

I think I might have even joined as Myles316 way back in the day.

[Fro]

$180 in the pot, just missing Matthew.

[Torn]

Fuckin MATTHEW

Can we get our draft positions before the draft Fro?

[Matthew]

what

[Dubya]

Fuckin MATTHEW

Can we get our draft positions before the draft Fro?

Yeah, it would be nice to know our spots before we pick. Possibly even trade..

[Myles]

im getting excited about football boys, ill be streaming like crazy over here, getting up at 6am Mondays to watch :)

[Fro]

$200 IN. Well done fellas.

Yea we can generate the draft order. Should I just randomize it?

[Myles]

do itttttttttttt

[Fro]

K yeah I don't see us doing anything except random so I'll do it now. The ESPN randomizer I've noticed is pretty sketchy though... like I can randomize it as many times as I want before setting it and you guys would be none the wiser. So I'm going to use a random order generator where I enter everyone's email and it sends it to everyone. Draft order incoming...

[Fro]

DRAFT ORDER:

1 - Torn
2 - Myles
3 - Dave
4 - Cewsh
5 - matthew
6 - Yankem
7 - sinner
8 - dubya
9 - Christopherson
10 - Fro

[Dubya]

no.8 in both drafts. very nice.

[Dr Isaac Yankem DDS]

Don't mind picking mid pack this year.

[Fro]

Draft pick trades are enabled. Dub I just made you an offer

[Cewsh]

Psyched for this. Doing the VIP one gave me a good idea of where I want to go with it.

[Fro]

I'm ready to rock this shit despite my lame draft position

[Christopherson]

Oh aye Fro, sorry mate for not getting back to you last night. I was talking about a straight swap, which, I'm guessing you really aren't interested in.

[Fro]

Oh yeah, I probably would have done that, but whatevs. I'm not sure we would have had time to push it through anyway since it's a 2 day review period (and I'm not sure if commish can override that).

[Christopherson]

Well I'm down for that, really just need to have Torn/hit to okay it but with just half an hour left I don't think that will happen.

[Fro]

I could actually just edit the draft order (which would swap all of our picks) instead of doing it as a trade.... but ehhhh I'm thinking I'll just stay at #10. I actually prefer #10-#11 to #9-#12, the only thing I don't like is always having back-to-back picks

[Christopherson]

Yeah no problem mate. Now I'll need to play the guessing game with you and try to anticipate who you will pick up. I'm fairly sure I'll disappointed a few times. Just a heads up though if Peterson is still at 9 I'm probably not going to let him slide ;)

[Fro]

I'm wondering if you'll be gunning for Rodgers with that 12th pick.

:chin:

[Christopherson]

Not at twelve...

OR AM I JUST SAYING THAT.


This is fantasy warfare at it's finest.

[Fro]

DRAFT IS OPEN.... and we've already got 7 people in there

[Myles]

yeah, I made some silly draft moves but then again it was 630 and I was half asleep.

This is my excuse if I lose :)

[Torn]

Good job making the draft nonetheless mate, I wouldn't really say any of your moves were silly, atleast you don't have to start Eli Manning like someone....

[Dubya]

I dunno.. Eli's only good every couple seasons.. he could be due.

[Myles]

In my other pool, I have Cam Newton and Tony Romo. Who would you start this week? Every analyst I have read has said start Romo, and I kinda agree since Carolina is playing Seattle. But I still don't feel good about benching Cam. Romo is going at home on Sunday night against the Giants, but I'm torn. Who would you start? standard espn scoring...

[Cewsh]

Cam. Always and forever.

Playing the matchups is important if the people involved have essentially the same scoring potential, but Cam Newton is a potential 20-30 points against any defense. Romo will get his points, but he's not in the same tier. Unless Cam slumps, you should be starting him.

[Myles]

Yeah, it is just strange that most analysts are praising Romo and saying he should throw for 350 against the giants. The giants never get any respect. :lol:

I'm playing you this week, in our pool, good luck man. :yes:

[Fro]

I'm very Denver happy. Manning, Montee Ball and Prater

I'm not too pleased with my team tbh. My mistake was picking WR2 (Roddy White) before RB2, so my RB depth is shite.

Starters this week:
P. Manning
Megatron
Roddy White
Trent Richardson
Montee Ball
Vernon Davis
Deangelo Williams
Texans Defense
Matt Prater

Bench:
Chris Ivory
Isaiah Pead
Michael Bush
Sydney Rice
Mike Williams
Emmanuel Sanders
Joe Flacco

[Dubya]

We really should've turned decimals on.. I hate that Ray Rice has 25 yards, but I only have 1 point because it's 19 rush yards and 6 rec yards. It's 2.5 in every other league I'm in.

[Fro]

We really should've turned decimals on.. I hate that Ray Rice has 25 yards, but I only have 1 point because it's 19 rush yards and 6 rec yards. It's 2.5 in every other league I'm in.

I agree. It's silly that ESPN doesn't default to fractional.

If no one objects I'm going to change that (if I can... not sure if it locks after season starts).

[Fro]

I went ahead and changed it to fractional.

Peyton Manning, what a guy :D

[Cewsh]

All week, I felt bad about drafting Welker, thinking that he wasn't going to get any targets this year.

Feeling better about it today.

[Fro]

Why on earth you be worried about Wes Welker's targets? He's a lock for 120 of em at minimum if healthy. It's the TD count that can be a downer for him, and that's what you should be feeling good about today.

[Cewsh]

He WAS a lock for 120 targets with New England, but the question on him for years has been whether his production was due to his fit in that system and his chemistry with Tom Brady. Putting him on a new team with a new quarterback and with two great established receivers already there was more than enough for me to feel uneasy about picking him so high. But yeah, so much for that. 9 catches, 2 touchdowns.

[Myles]

we need the decimals, I won a playoff match before by .1. :)

[Cewsh]

Yeah, it is just strange that most analysts are praising Romo and saying he should throw for 350 against the giants. The giants never get any respect. :lol:

I'm playing you this week, in our pool, good luck man. :yes:

According to ESPN, you're going to crush me. Should be fun. :D

[Myles]

fuck, I am still torn on who to start. I keep going back and forth, I must have changed my qb 5 times. I really feel shakey about starting Newton vs. Seattle. Last year he got 7 points. Romo got 21 and 23 in his two meetings with the Giants.

I have no idea what to do. I might just flip a coin.

[Fro]

Start Romo.

[Myles]

is that what you would do?

[Fro]

Yea. Newton had 3 fantasy points per game over Romo last year. That's a small enough gap that I would play the matchups in this extreme case.

[Cewsh]

Obviously I don't agree, but that's part of what makes the whole thing so damn difficult, (and fun.)

Cam has the upside, Romo has the matchup. Search your feelings, young Skywalker.

[Myles]

if I start Romo and he throws five picks or breaks his leg like he has done in the past I'm going to rip my hair out.

If I start Cam and Seattle sacks him ten times and he fumbles I'm going to rip my hair out.

This is why I have always had a clear starter in the past, but in my other draft the internet cut out and I autodrafted Romo. :lol: fuck me, now do I take it as a sign that I should start him? Or will he cost me the win. On paper in my league it is the two best drafted teams playing each other and I'd love to get the W.

this is why I love/hate fantasy football, cuz no matter how much I over think it I'll most likely start the wrong guy.

[Myles]

fuck it, I'm going to start Romo, if he gets less than 15 I'm going to cut him from my team so I won't have this headache in the future :lol:

[Fro]

Trade him, don't cut him

[Torn]

Just not to Christopherson.

[Fro]

He's talking about another league anyway

[Myles]

fro thanks for the advice. I benched Cam and he put up 12. Come on Romo, I'm looking good in both pools thanks to Reggie Bush :)

[Dubya]

Romo vs. Eli is always fireworks.. even if he does throw 4 picks, he'll still probably throw 4 TDs to match it and 24-8 is still 16 + yards.

[Myles]

:lol: first play of the season... eli throws a pick.

[Cewsh]

Good god these two offenses are horrible.

[Christopherson]

Well done Dave :yes:. I totally deserve everything I get this week, benching wanker face Eli and forgetting about the Thursday night game is just fucking dumb.

[Fro]

ESPN doesn't let you set your lineup for future weeks? That's dumb.

I rode Peyton and Vernon Davis to victory this week. The rest of my guys were poor. Need to step it up next week.

[Cewsh]

Myles is beating me at the moment, but I only need RGIII, Fred Davis and Ryan Matthews to combine for 20 points for me to win.

I expect all 3 to be injured by halftime.

[Cewsh]

After a half of play RGIII has netted me NEGATIVE ONE POINT. I HATE EVERYTHING.

[Fro]

Relax, you're still going to win.

[Myles]

david wilson screwed me over, still entertaining match. I gotta smash Matthew next week. Do we have 6 or 4 guys make the playoffs?

[Fro]

4. 2 division winners plus 2 wild cards

[Dubya]

Who did I beat this week ?

[Cewsh]

david wilson screwed me over, still entertaining match. I gotta smash Matthew next week. Do we have 6 or 4 guys make the playoffs?

Yeah, I was sure Wilson was going to put you out of reach, but the guy ended up with negative points. It was a rough week for running backs across the board, really. Charles did well for me, but almost all of the 1st round picks were disappointments.

[Dave]

I was happy with LeSean McCoy's haul (suppose it's him and AP who make it almost all rather than all) - and my week in general. Winning big, even with leaving nearly 20 points on the bench. Just hoping I can carry it forward.

[Myles]

what up matthew... i was dead to rights and then boldin got you one catch for .7 BOOM!

[Cewsh]

Torn and I are competing for the "saddest team of the week" award.

[Torn]

STUPID EDDIE CONCUSSION LACY, STUPID COLIN KAEPERNICK AND STUPID FRANK GORE

[hithit]

hey now, eddie lacy didnt cause his own concussion, you need to be mad at brandon merriweather(not sure if that is how his name is spelled). that dude is gonna get big fines this week, he led with his helmet at least twice in that game.

[Torn]

STUPID BRANDON MERRIWEATHER AND EDDIE LACY'S THIN SKULL

[Torn]

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/19092ze75jq2ngif/original.gif

:(

[Christopherson]

Dramatic update, I STILL FUCKING HATE ELI...


On the plus side, somehow I won, fuck knows how.

[Christopherson]

Oh shit I've just jinxed myself something rotten, just realised I haven't won and Megatron still has Isaac Redman to play.

:nono:

[Fro]

No chance Redman gets 23 points.

[Christopherson]

Is there any chance you don't piss Karma off, me and Karma have had this long, LONG running feud and basically Karma hates me.

[Torn]

Oh my god with the scores basically tied with Bengals D against AJ GREEN and Steelers D I somehow managed to win by 10 :lol:

[Cewsh]

HATE

[Fro]

Everyone in the eastern division is 1-1

[Matthew]

lol cewsh lost to eli manning

[Dr Isaac Yankem DDS]

Fuck!! First L.

[Myles]

why on earth did i start sam bradford :wtf:

[Myles]

my team is horrible, in my other league im 3-1 and killing it, but this team is just one mistake after another :(

[Torn]

Damn Isaac Yankem with a ridiculous score against me this week :(

[Matthew]

cya lata cewsh

boom drew breeeeeeeeeeees

[Dr Isaac Yankem DDS]

I need a RB I have WRs that I will trade or Wilson if someone is in need of a qb.

[Fro]

The running back field is so weak this season

[Dr Isaac Yankem DDS]

That's true, it will probably be hard to get one in a trade.

[Sinner]

Who would you trade?

[Dr Isaac Yankem DDS]

Def not Wilson for BJGE. I'd trade anyone as long as the deal was good.

[Myles]

my team is so shit that my kicker was my highest scoring player this week... and he didnt even have a big game :wtf:

i need to rethink this game plan

[Fro]

It annoys me when people are like "I need this position, make me an offer".... Be proactive and make an offer yourself! When I really need a position I put out like 4 trade offers and see if anyone bites.

[Matthew]

3 straight wins

easy

[Torn]

my team is so shit that my kicker was my highest scoring player this week... and he didnt even have a big game :wtf:

i need to rethink this game plan

I appreciated your lack of points, for what it's worth.

[Torn]

It annoys me when people are like "I need this position, make me an offer".... Be proactive and make an offer yourself! When I really need a position I put out like 4 trade offers and see if anyone bites.

Yeah exactly.

[Fro]

3 straight wins

easy

Enjoy it now cuz it ends this week

[Torn]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh shit

[Matthew]

peyton manning vs the jags ffs. just bench him

[Dr Isaac Yankem DDS]

Yeah exactly.

Yeah I know , Fuck me for wanting to talk about a deal instead of just machine gunning offers to people.

[Fro]

I'll give you montee ball for cruz

[Torn]

How about actually looking at people's rosters to find an owner who you think can match your needs maybe instead of being a cockend

[Dr Isaac Yankem DDS]

I'll give you montee ball for cruz
Nah, ill give you Stephen Hill for Trent Richardson.

[Dr Isaac Yankem DDS]

How about actually looking at people's rosters to find an owner who you think can match your needs maybe instead of being a cockend

K.

[Christopherson]

Yeah I know , Fuck me for wanting to talk about a deal instead of just machine gunning offers to people.


You where kinda getting at me to be honest, so I don't really know why you are getting all sandy about it towards Torn and Fro about it. Do you think I should offer you Doug Martin for him?

To be fair to you I wouldn't have accepted Law Firm either but we kinda need to open with something to see if we could work anything out, no?

[Dr Isaac Yankem DDS]

You where kinda getting at me to be honest, so I don't really know why you are getting all sandy about it towards Torn and Fro about it. Do you think I should offer you Doug Martin for him?

To be fair to you I wouldn't have accepted Law Firm either but we kinda need to open with something to see if we could work anything out, no?

I'm not "sandy" at all, I guess I'm just used to my other leagues. Sorry guys, didnt mean to stir anything up. :beer:

[Christopherson]

Not a problem, so about that Russell Wilson trade...

[Dr Isaac Yankem DDS]

I'd think about Doing Jackson for Wilson straight up as long as I know he is coming back after his bye week. If that's something you are interested in.

[Fro]

I'm not "sandy" at all, I guess I'm just used to my other leagues. Sorry guys, didnt mean to stir anything up. :beer:

No worries, it's just a pet peeve of mine. We probably overreacted a bit there.

[Fro]

Everyone is either 3-2 or 2-3. I guess when there's cash at stake and people are trying hard, it's pretty even

[Myles]

So my team finally has a good week, i scored the 2nd most points in the league and i still lose :lol:

[Torn]

Ahaha unlucky mate.

I survived Luck and Wayne on Monday night following the Chiefs putting up 27 points against me to get to 3-3, Knowshon Moreno saved me.

[Myles]

rivers or newton this week?

im gonna start rivers, he is going agaisnt the jags and he is a beast but i still dont know if i should pull the trigger. cam was great last week.

who would you start?

[Fro]

I thought you were talking about this league, in which I'm playing you, and I was going to suggest you start Rivers for my own sake.

Start Cam. It could go either way but I would roll with Cam unless the matchups are very slanted, and this week they are not (Cam at home vs the Rams who they are favored over by 7 points)

[Myles]

yeah i still dont know, rivers is projected way higher by espn.

[Torn]

I'd start Cam

[Myles]

I'm going to start him. My other problem is billel powell or chris johnson. Fuck chris johnson I'm thinking, but it is hard to sit a big name like that, all he needs is one big game to get going.

in our league if i dont beat you this week my shot of playoffs is over. this is a must win week for me, best of luck fro. :)

[Torn]

Previous: at ELI (http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/clubhouse?leagueId=246500&teamId=3&seasonId=2013) (W 69.9-69.4 (http://games.espn.go.com/ffl/boxscorequick?leagueId=246500&teamId=6&scoringPeriodId=7&seasonId=2013&view=scoringperiod&version=quick))


fdgfdgfdgdfgd unlucky Christopherson

[Myles]

I got over 100 the other week and lost :wtf:

[Myles]

doug martin done for the year, i might as well just give up.

good game boys :(

[Fro]

I'm coming for that number one spot!

[Dave]

I'm coming for that number one spot!It's yours for now, though only as a loan. Next week I'll be having it back from ya. Knew I was in trouble when I saw that Torn had two guys against the Jags, but I was reasonably pleased with how many points I put up.

[Fro]

I'm disappointed that I'm playing you on the week my 3 best players are on bye (Manning, Megatron, Vernon Davis). You have some bye players as well though so it should still be a good match.

[Dave]

I'm also down my starting QB (Stafford) and my WR1 (Thomas), so we're both suffering in that regard. Definitely should be a good one, and hopefully I'll be able to get revenge for my defeat a few weeks ago.

[Torn]

BEAT THE FUCK OUT OF DAVE. DAVE OUT.

4 IN A ROW

Put up the highest score anyone has put up all season. Can't even fit Eddie Lacy into my lineup without bye weeks.

Josh Gordon.

[Dave]

BEAT THE FUCK OUT OF DAVE. DAVE OUT.

4 IN A ROW

Put up the highest score anyone has put up all season. Can't even fit Eddie Lacy into my lineup without bye weeks.

Josh Gordon.3-2

Top scoring team this season.

See you in the playoffs etc etc etc

[Torn]

Sorry I can't hear you with that giant 50 point cushion between us

[Torn]

I'm going to use this opportunity to laugh at Christopherson.

Christopherson :lol:

[Myles]

my opponent put up the lowest score i have seen in 3 seasons of fantasy football ;)

edit: if i win out right I might still make the playoffs, it is a long shot but i figure 8-5 will get me in the top 4.

[Cewsh]

:(

[Fro]

Cewsh you were projected to beat me by like 20. :lol:

Your team is filthy on paper.

[Cewsh]

That's what makes this season so painful. I drafted well, and have had the most ridiculous run of bad luck ever since.

[Christopherson]

I'm going to use this opportunity to laugh at Christopherson.

Christopherson :lol:


:cry:

Injuries, injuries, injuries nothing you can do but grin and bear it. No wait, there is something else I can do, I can pull out my brand new shiny 2013 VIP Fantasy Baseball Champions medal and rejoice in that.

[Torn]

Christopherson :lol:!

[Dave]

Don't I've had as good a start as that from the early games... ever.

[Matthew]

my boy T.Y. doin me good in the clutch tonight. props

[Torn]

He was ok.

Dave with a strong response to last week there absolutely molesting Fro.

Aaron Rodgers dying and Eddie Lacy's huge game (along with AP and Keenan Allen earlier OBV) helped me get to five wins on the bounce and the division lead yessssss.

[Fro]

Got all of my byes out of the way in one swoop

[Fro]

I really can't catch a break when it comes to running backs this year. Total disarray. Probably gonna start Shane Vereen and Donald Brown next week. Held onto Chris Ivory for about 6 weeks of 2 points a game, finally dropped him when Bilal Powell emerged as the Jets #1, then Ivory breaks out and now he's a stud, on someone else's team. Fuckkkkkk. If I had him I'd be unstoppable.

Having the best QB and WR, plus a top 3 TE and kicker, has carried me this far but I need at least one decent RB. Hopefully Vereen will kick it into high gear.

[Dave]

Another win should see me into the playoffs as the tiebreaker's points and the 6-and-5 teams would have to best me by 150 points in the next two weeks to clear me. It'll be close though - closer than it would be had I started CJ2K over Ellington this weekend :(

[Matthew]

i have been playing playoff situations in my mind


dave. you just better hope you win this week bro.


or i will break your heart the next week

[Torn]

7 in a row

[Torn]

Josh Gordon.