Ferguson to retire

[Simon]

:eek: if ever something deserved its own thread...

[Kimura Kid]

:eek: OMG!!



*Edit* Who's Ferguson?

[Andy]

Is this anything more than Twitter rumours yet? All the Telegraph article seems to be based on is that he dodged a question and they've not been able to get any comment from anyone.

[Darkoke]

The story...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/10042798/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-considering-retiring-as-Manchester-United-manager-before-end-of-the-week.html

[JP]

Fuck off, seriously?

[Simon]

Fuck knows but it seems like big news, talk of Moyes going in for a year as assistant.

[HHHnFoley_Rulez]

:eek: if ever anything needed it's own proof/source...


Saying that, if he does go, he's doing it at the right time.

[Rip]

Didn't he just say he wasn't going to retire a couple of months ago?

[1_Pablo_Angel]

About bloody time. Fuck off whiskey nose.

[Matthew]

:eek: OMG!!



*Edit* Who's Ferguson?dipshittery

[JP]

If it's true surely it's a powerplay to get Jose to Old Trafford.

[Torn]

I'll believe it when I see it.

[Red Dog]

Hardly shocking news.

He must be about 95.

[The Rosk]

Either to push for more money or get Mourinho in next.

[Simmo Fortyone]

Surely this comes up towards the end of every season. Any particular reason why it has gained traction this year?

[Hlebsfall]

Because he's an old cunt with a dodgy hip.

[StevieV]

Because united didn't immediately deny it.

[Simon]

Jesus, it's actually confirmed...

[Rip]

End of the season...

Who's next then?

Jose although Moyes as favourite, really?

[Simon]

I think it has to be Mourinho honestly. No one else fits the bill.

[Rip]

I'd assumed that, plus the timing fits well, even the announcement today that he is going gives them time to out negotiate Chelsea, can't see Jose turning it down either.

Can you imagine the uproar if it did go to Moyes though? He's done a good enough job with Everton, but he's surely nowhere near ready to take on Man U.

[son_of_foley]

That would be very fun for the chelsea fans.

I had a feeling it would be AVB but this is too early for him

[McBain]

I actually got a little bit emotional reading his statement - especially his words about his wife. Fair play.

The greatest football manager the world has ever, and will ever, see. :beer:

[Bad Collin]

This is huge news and I think good news for a more competitive Premier League.

Fergie was the best manager ever and whoever takes over just cannot match his achivements.

Would Jose take over from such a legacy, surely it can only be downhill from here?

[Ringo]

Yeah I do feel a bit sick already. It's going to be a tense few weeks.

Respect to Ferguson. Wondered if this would ever happen. Will be absolutely bizarre to see anyone other than him managing United. He's been the only constant face in the Premier League for my entire life.

On one hand I can see why United wouldn't be interested in a big controversial figure like Mourinho - on the other, it's hard to think of anyone else who might have an actual chance of escaping Ferguson's shadow.

fml

[Simon]

Graham Hunter reckons Moyes has been offered the job, but has yet to decide whether or not to take it.

[Simon]

This from Danny Baker's Twitter :lol:


If Steve McClaren's phone went now I bet there'd be a tiny part of him thinking, "Yes! Here we go!"

[MMH]

Jurgan Klopp at 25-1 is great odds.

I cant see it being Moyes. If Ferguson has his say then he probably stands a chance but would Man Utd really take a manager who hasnt beat one of the (traditional) big four away in his career?

Id be happy for him to go though, Mourinho can then manage us instead...

[Brennino]

Devastating news. The greatest manager of all time. It would be fucking great if Wenger took it and won the European Cup next season.

[McBain]

I'd do a massive LOL if it was MON.

[Ringo]

I do find it hard to believe that they wouldn't be pretty certain who is taking over - but do United have to announce the new manager as soon as it's a done deal if they're on the stock exchange? I don't know.

Steve Kean and Iain Dowie trending on Twitter :cool:

[Bad Collin]

I 'd love to see Rafa rock up and tell Giggsy to throw his 13 league winners medals in the bin like Clough at Leeds.

[Rip]

I'd do a massive LOL if it was MON.


I think his stock has dropped a little bit since last time he was discussed as the chosen one :lol:

[Hlebsfall]

Can't see it being Mourinho, he's a massive fucking crybaby. As soon as things ain't going his way, he'll fuck off. Seeing as they've had a manager for the best part of 30 years, I'm sure one of the key things they're looking for is stability.

[Brennino]

Betting is near enough suspended here on Moyes... great news for the rest of the league.

[Beefy]

Whoever takes over is on a hiding to nothing. They should go for Jupp Heynckes for a couple of seasons.

[Alf]

They'll want stability and a vision so I think Moyes is the boy. Mourinho would only stay for a few years and then do one. Moyes has everton playing lovely football with limited resources. He has an eye for a transfer too. He'd be grand.

[Simon]

They'll want stability and a vision so I think Moyes is the boy. Mourinho would only stay for a few years and then do one.
Everyone keeps saying this, but I don't think it necessarily holds water for two reasons:

1) All the jobs he's had previously have been short-term for a reason. He outgrew Porto having done everything he could (league title, Europa League, Champions League), then moved to Chelsea where short-termism is the order of the day and he was forced, then went to Inter where it was a bit of both - he won everything and it's a club (well, the entire country) where managers never stay long. Then he went to Madrid, where again the setup is always about short-term success and managers never last long. He's never been at a club where longevity is the norm.

2) Having made his way around the big European leagues winning everything in as short a time as possible, as he said he would, I think his next goal could be to create a legacy at a club. It's no secret that he holds Ferguson and United above any other manager and club, and I reckon the idea of taking over from Ferguson would be something he would love.

It might not work out that way in any case, and it seems like Moyes is nailed on to get it now, but I don't see Mourinho's history of instability (:D) as necessarily meaning he would do the same at United. Personally I think it's a great fit, he's the only manager in world football who wouldn't be cowed by the idea of replacing Fergie, with the possible exception of Guardiola who, presumably, was never in the running for the job, seeing as this must have been in the pipeline since before the Bayern job became available (although this assumes he would have preferred United to Bayern, which isn't automatically true).

[Beefy]

Mourinho wasn't a short-term appointment for Chelsea and that's been shown by the fact that the team that he put together is still largely there seven years later. He happened to end up falling out with the owner but had he not have done he may well have still been there.

[MMH]

They'll want stability and a vision so I think Moyes is the boy. Mourinho would only stay for a few years and then do one. Moyes has everton playing lovely football with limited resources. He has an eye for a transfer too. He'd be grand.

All correct. The only question is about his winning mentality. He has basically shit himself every time we have looked at pushing on. Done a great job to get us into that position though obviously.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I heard Fergie promised the job to Wenger as part of the RvP deal.

[Mik]

Haha, Arsenal fans would implode under the contradiction of being both enraged and delighted at the same time.

[Simon]

Someone mentioned the idea of Wenger earlier, it genuinely would be the funniest thing ever to happen in football after Phil Babb's ballbag demolition.

[Simon]

Is there anyone at the club now who has maybe been groomed behind the scenes a la Queiroz a few years back? It's not outside the realms of possibility that Rene Meulensteen or, at a pinch, Brian McClair might be given the reins as a transition between the Fergie era and whatever happens in the future.

EDIT: Reserve team manager Warren Joyce is third favourite. 40/1 odds though.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

David Gill has talked about loyalty there, which makes Moyes a likely candidate, but then talks about league and European experience. Moyes has basically zero European experience. Tactically there are questions over Moyes too. His record against Liverpool feels like a poor indicator for how he manages pressure games. It has to be Mourinho really and Mourinho's chat after the CL games earlier this year, and before, suggest he desperately wants the job.

[Simon]

I'm really fucking excited now, United having a new manager is gonna be mad.

[Pablo Diablo]

Ferguson has been United's manager literally my entire life. Now sure I wasn't watching for all of that time but it is going to be very strange seeing someone else on the bench. With his hip I suppose now was the right time.

[StevieV]

This is huge news. Very exciting for the premier league.

I have no idea who they'll go for but i love how certain people are on both Moyes and Mourinho.

I thinkwe could still be surprised.

[turdpower]

I feel a bit sick.

[Bennedy]

If Moyes does come in I wouldn't be surprised to see Baines and Fellaini follow him.

[MACE]

I feel a bit sick.

:nono:

[MMH]

If Moyes does come in I wouldn't be surprised to see Baines and Fellaini follow him.

I dont think it quite works like that. Shall we give them out ground for their reserves to play on too?

They are both tied to long term contracts so as long as we were to get compensated well for them I wouldnt be too bothered really. Would be more bothered about Baines though.

[Bennedy]

Of course it doesn't work like that. I can see Moyes making bids for them though, Baines especially.

[MMH]

Of course it doesn't work like that. I can see Moyes making bids for them though, Baines especially.

At least he should know his worth unlike Ferguson who seemed to think he was worth 8M. According to rubbish paper reports anyway...

[Chris Scott]

Yep can defo see Baines going.

[MMH]

Luke Garbutt will be the next Paolo Maldini.

Bryan Oviedo will be gutted like.

Im getting annoyed at the thought of Moyes managing us for the final two games now. Assuming he is announced as their manager tomorrow he shouldnt be anywhere near us. Not in a funny way either, hes done a great job and ill wish him well but Everton will look like his fat ex begging for a pity shag before hes fucks off to his slutty new stunner. We are better than that, move on straight away.

[Bad Collin]

Who would you want as your new gaffer?

[MMH]

Who would you want as your new gaffer?

...Alex Ferguson?

I would love Laudrup but cant see him leaving, Maybe we could lure Frank De Boer. Uwe Rosler as a random one.

I want someone exciting and a bit leftfield. Dont fancy Martinez at all. He plays that tiki taka nonsense.

Fuck it, Slaven Bilic.

I really dont know. Im oddly excited by it all though. Moyes was steady for us but I fancy a bit of summer madness now.

[Simmo Fortyone]

Whoever takes over would want to win at least the league and the FA Cup, plus a CL semi final berth if they want to avoid the "this was a huge mistake" press.

[The Rosk]

What I don't understand MMH is how you have said over a thousand times that Moves is clueless and has no Plan B and should be sacked yadayada. Why now is this not a laughable appointment from your perspective.

[MMH]

What I don't understand MMH is how you have said over a thousand times that Moves is clueless and has no Plan B and should be sacked yadayada. Why now is this not a laughable appointment from your perspective.

I havnt said he is clueless, I have said he is flawed which he is.

Not quite sure what you mean though as I have questioned the appointment in this very thread saying he doesnt have a winning mentality?

[The Rosk]

I simply would have thought that what you have said on here, for a number of years, would have led to a much more shocked reaction given what you know, and given the ridiculous but understandable gravitas of the role. I know it has been rumoured in the past, but still.

[MMH]

I simply would have thought that what you have said on here, for a number of years, would have led to a much more shocked reaction given what you know, and given the ridiculous but understandable gravitas of the role. I know it has been rumoured in the past, but still.

Thats just my opinion though really. Everyone else seems to love him. Maybe ill be proved wrong. Im not really sure how hes going to deal with big name players either. I would sell RVP now if I was United and get lots of money for him whilst they can. He destroys strikers.

[MMH]

Who would you want as your new gaffer?

I have made my mind up now. I demand Murat Yakin.

[The Rosk]

You're getting MON and you know it.

Initial burst of confidence and then he'll relegate you. Shit manager. Have I mentioned this before?

[Mik]

I think that you may have brought it up once or twice.

[Chris Scott]

Yep I've got a feeling Rafa could take over at Everton.

[Rip]

I have made my mind up now. I demand Murat Yakin.

You're going to get Phil Neville.

[MMH]

You're going to get Phil Neville.

I wouldnt mind that too much. Fairly crap player but a winner.

[Bad Collin]

:lol: Is it too late to get you on the interview panel?

[MMH]

He is great and pointing and issuing rallying cries.

He will probably end up on Moyes backroom staff though.

[turdpower]

He's getting a 6 year deal.

Mental.

[El Capitano Gatisto]

I suppose he has infinitely more experience than Pep Guardiola had when Barca appointed him and it's more about a certain approach than past success as such. He does seem to have an eye for an interesting signing too.

Mourinho would have been golden though. I suppose there was the chance Mourinho would have publically turned them down just to be a bastard.

[Peter Griffin]

Going to be weird seeing someone else managing Utd, I have literally never known anyone but Fergie in charge, greatest manager of the modern age and a natural born winner, the game wont be the same,im sure he will still be involved for years to come mind. Usually a manager leaving means a overhaul of the backroom staff, but a lot of the staff at Man Utd are as much a part of the club as Fergie himself, wonder if Moyes will be taking Steve Round with him, or whether Round might get a crack at the top job at Goodison.

[MMH]

Going to be weird seeing someone else managing Utd, I have literally never known anyone but Fergie in charge, greatest manager of the modern age and a natural born winner, the game wont be the same,im sure he will still be involved for years to come mind. Usually a manager leaving means a overhaul of the backroom staff, but a lot of the staff at Man Utd are as much a part of the club as Fergie himself, wonder if Moyes will be taking Steve Round with him, or whether Round might get a crack at the top job at Goodison.

I doubt it, our fans hate Round. Im not even sure why, they just always have done.

[Andy]

Have Mark Hughes and Alan Curbishley been on SSN touting themselves for the job yet?

[Bennedy]

Ha, they have had Mark Hughes. I reckon it will be Martinez. You know, that guy who is good enough to manage Real Madrid according to some people.

[Andy]

Odds on Neil Lennon have come in to 4/7

[wardy]

I was just coming here to post that. Mental. Everton can have him if they want but I doubt they will, he's a massive gamble.

[MMH]

I really dont want Lennon. Hes a scruffy bellend.

[JP]

Anything scotland related seems to be the new selection process for managers.

[Bennedy]

I don't want Everton to get Lennon. I quite like them, but I would find it very hard to cheer them on if that wanker is their new manager.

[son_of_foley]

I don't want Everton to get Lennon. I quite like them, but I would find it very hard to cheer them on if that wanker is their new manager.

Bennedy are you one of those true blue tossers?

I hate that bollocks.


I don't like Lennon a lot though, he has one of those faces and personalities.

[Slare]

Yeah, thats a massive massive gamble to go anywhere near Lennon. Maybe outside of the goldfish bowl that is Glasgow he will calm down a bit, but really he's not a great manager. He's a good motivator and good at creating a 'them vs. us' mentality, but tactically he's far from polished. The real driving force behind our success has been our coaching staff and work in the transfer market over the past three or four years, and I think with that, we will maintain our standard. Got a sneaking suspicion Lennon will go and we will end up with MON again.

[Bennedy]

Bennedy are you one of those true blue tossers?

I hate that bollocks.


I don't like Lennon a lot though, he has one of those faces and personalities.

Nah fuck that. If Lennon and Scott Brown were not at Celtic I wouldn't mind them as much. My scottish team is Livingston anyway.

[MikeHunt]

Think Everton would be better off with McCall or Butcher if they are looking for someone from the SPL. I completely agreed with SLARE Lennon needs a bit longer before he's tactically ready for the EPL. He can't really change a game if things are going to shit.

[MMH]

Think Everton would be better off with McCall or Butcher if they are looking for someone from the SPL. I completely agreed with SLARE Lennon needs a bit longer before he's tactically ready for the EPL. He can't really change a game if things are going to shit.

McCall played for us too of course so thats not the worst shout I have heard.

[wardy]

I take it your chairman is after someone on the cheap.

[MMH]

I take it your chairman is after someone on the cheap.

Well seeing as we are getting no compensation for our current manager yeah i would assume so.

[wardy]

Didn't realise that. Did he have a clause in his contract or something?

[Bennedy]

He is out of contract at the end of June, so he can just walk into the Man U job.

[wardy]

Right I hadn't even heard that mentioned.

Lennon has played down the rumours but I reckon he'll go if he's offered the job.

[Andy]

He'd be mad not to, he must be in the least challenging managerial job of all time at the moment.

[Gary J]

They've offered it to Malky MacKay haven't they? Thats what i was seeing on twitter earlier.

[wardy]

He'd be mad not to, he must be in the least challenging managerial job of all time at the moment.
Apart from the Champions League, which he'll probably never compete in again after he leaves us.

[MikeHunt]

He'd be mad not to, he must be in the least challenging managerial job of all time at the moment.

Considering he is still learning as a manager he should probably stick around until he becomes more tactically astute as he can still learn a ton in Europe and the SPL and create an even more impressive cv than he already is has.

[MMH]

They've offered it to Malky MacKay haven't they? Thats what i was seeing on twitter earlier.

Nah, we wont be offering anything until the season has ended I would assume. It would be wrong to announce someone elses manager as our next manager whilst the season is still ongoing...

[turdpower]

Blackburn did it about 8 times this year already.

[StevieV]

I actually think he's taking a cleverly veiled shot at Man U rather than the like of Blackburn mate.

[turdpower]

OH NAH YOU DI'ENT

[JP]

:lol: Blackburn