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chatty
May 3rd, 2013, 1:28 PM
The guy is a talented fellow, looks good, has a good finisher, has a quality move-set, is a big powerful bloke and thus far has had good matches with a variety of different styled wrestlers. Only problem is, the crowd couldn't give a crap about him.

He's had a long run as the US champ which didn't seem to do much for him on that front and has now had a gimmick re-adjustment to a yodeller which is just bad. It might annoy some people but it aint gonna get him much heat.

So what do you do with the guy?

Here's some thoughts.

Bring up Ohno and re-create their tag-team, let them dominate the division and hopefully when they part ways both will have an easier time getting over with the crowd.

Turn him face and have him fill the big beast part that Ryback had - but mainy in the mid-card for now obviously. Let him be a big powerhouse who takes on all comers.

Pair him up with someone and hope he gets over of their back - like as in a bodyguard role but one who also actively wrestles.

Kdestiny
May 3rd, 2013, 1:33 PM
Don't have his yodel for one

Kimura Kid
May 3rd, 2013, 1:35 PM
bill him as "The Natural" and have him wear nice suits, drive European sports cars, and come to the ring with a female valet. Why did they stop having him accompanied by Aksana? He's exactly the kind of guy who'd have a girl with him. And there's nothing that makes male fans angrier than a guy with a hot woman on his arm. It also probably wouldn't hurt to give him a manager to talk for him. This could be his female valet, or it could be someone else.

Antonio Cesaro: Drink Russian, Drive German, Wear Italian, Kiss French, Bank Swiss.


Gotta Quote The Law here. I think it's the way he's been packaged.

Cewsh
May 3rd, 2013, 1:38 PM
Keep him away from all main eventers for 6 months. Have him only wrestle people on his own level where he will shine in long midcard matches. Then, when he has established his credibility, put him in a feud with John Cena. Done.

The Rogerer
May 3rd, 2013, 1:39 PM
Have in-ring performance actually mean something. Boomph.

Ringo
May 3rd, 2013, 1:56 PM
Doing what they/he did on this week's Main Event would be a good start. He cut a promo that actually felt believable, wrestled like a believable dickhead ring God and violently assaulted Kofi after the match, "ripping off" a dreadlock. That kind of thing vs. good sympathetic babyfaces in the midcard should do it. Not sure Miz or Truth are the right guys. Ryder could be but that's not going to happen any time soon. I'd like a Rey feud on his return. Beating up Ricardo Rodriguez a lot would be good as well. There's also a certain former LUCHADOR who just made his NXT debut and beat Cesaro. He was pretty great at playing a sympathetic babyface when he wore a mask and had a famously good match with Cesaro in da indies. And I'm not talking about Sin Cara.

Newf
May 3rd, 2013, 2:16 PM
Antonio Cesaro: Drink Russian, Drive German, Wear Italian, Kiss French, Bank Swiss.
Holy fuck that's beautiful.

I agree though. I know 'round here was kind of split on Aksana as his valet, but she's not doing much else. He didn't NEED her, no, but having arm candy gave him something extra. I totally agree though, with Rogerer, that the biggest thing is just actually having him doing something in the ring. Everything else was there for him to be on track to get over big... and then he kept losing in non-title matches and finally dropped the belt unspectacularly to Kofi. As far as I'm concerned he was doing everything in HIS power between ring work and promos... they totally dropped the ball with bad booking.

The yodelling would be fine if it was simply a set up for that corner running European elbow like I've seen it used once or twice, but that's it. Having him yodel on the way to the ring with no context is a disservice to the man.

MMH
May 3rd, 2013, 2:21 PM
Have him wrestle and win matches.

Crazy I know.

Andy
May 3rd, 2013, 2:59 PM
The thing is, as good as he's been in the ring, he really hasn't shown much charisma on the mic. I still don't agree with the way he's been booked, but if he's going to get any higher than the lower midcard, that needs to improve. He started off trying the usual "I'm a classy foreign guy therefore anti-American" and it was pretty boring. Then there was the massive flag waving which wasn't particularly interesting either. Then the yodelling which couldn't be in bigger contrast to his wrestling style.

I think the best way to get him over at the moment is to give him victories in competitive matches. He doesn't need to beat Orton or Sheamus or anything to get over. Let him have competitive matches with some of the lower card faces like Ryder, Santino, Truth etc. In a sense it's moving him down the card, but if he can be competitive and show the brute strength and awesome ability, he'll be over in no time. He's so good in the ring, that's all he needs at this level. He reminds me of Chris Benoit in that sense.

The wrestlers I mentioned, plus Kofi, maybe Sandow and Fandango. That's a pretty massive talent pool for the level we're talking about. If they can put the effort into developing some feuds and putting Cesaro in matches, he'll get over very quickly. That time he brutalised Miz at ringside did more to get him over then any promo he's tried. Let him to what he does best - use his strengths. Easy.

Defrost
May 3rd, 2013, 3:15 PM
How about not having him lose all the time

Kneeneighbor
May 3rd, 2013, 3:42 PM
Bah! That would never work!

Ochoa
May 3rd, 2013, 5:46 PM
How to get him over? Easy. Just lift one leg up and push him over the top rope. Now eliminating him.... that could be tricky.

Atty
May 4th, 2013, 11:23 AM
Have him release a porn with Askana. Done.


Keep him away from all main eventers for 6 months. Have him only wrestle people on his own level where he will shine in long midcard matches. Then, when he has established his credibility, put him in a feud with John Cena. Done.

Or that. Not necessarily Cena first at that point, but let him show what he can do first. He'll improve and get more of a following. We've seen what happens when a guy gets pushed to Cena before they're ready (Miz)

DaSaintFan
May 5th, 2013, 4:38 AM
Holy fuck that's beautiful.

I agree though. I know 'round here was kind of split on Aksana as his valet, but she's not doing much else. He didn't NEED her, no, but having arm candy gave him something extra

You know who this reminds me of? One of our all-time favorites... The Macho Man!! He sure didn't need Elizabeth to get over but damn did it work for him... Aksana could have worked for Cesaro the same way.


The yodelling would be fine if it was simply a set up for that corner running European elbow like I've seen it used once or twice, but that's it. Having him yodel on the way to the ring with no context is a disservice to the man.

Amen.. whoever came up with the idea for him to add that to his ring entrance.... Needs to have a CAT scan immediately!


He started off trying the usual "I'm a classy foreign guy therefore anti-American" and it was pretty boring

Actually when he started off, I don't remember him doing anything "anti-American" honestly. Sure he promoted his international heritage first and foremost, but up until the "no American can beat me", his anti-American portion of his routine was actually pretty minimal.

JRSlim21
May 5th, 2013, 9:27 AM
A nice blood feud would get him over... oh wait. No more of that.

For shits & giggles, he should've become Flair's protege and been the International Nature Boy.

OD50
May 5th, 2013, 9:31 AM
Anyone know if our good ol' Swiss Superman is in the dog house for some reason? The constant jobbing and yodelling kind of indicates that..

Badger
May 5th, 2013, 10:25 AM
I haven't heard about him shitting in bags, so I'm guessing it's because WWE loves the stereotypes, and also most people go through the jobbing phase because they want to put other people over at this point as much as it sucks.

Atty
May 5th, 2013, 10:45 AM
If he shit in someone's bags, Vince would push him. That's how it works.

Brian M.
May 5th, 2013, 5:25 PM
I don't think simply saying "Have him win matches" is an answer here, because he did that for months and months and never got over. He's just not a compelling character at the moment. Mainly because I don't even really know what his character IS. He's not a great promo guy which also hurts him. But as Ringo said, he plays a vicious heel VERY well and more segments like the Kofi one on Main Event (except this time on shows people actually watch) would go a long way in getting him over.

I think people are overreacting thinking he is being buried though. He's just not in their immediate plans, but they know he is talented. So they are using him in long matches to put over guys who they do have immediate plans and PPV matches for. He's still on basically every TV show every week. He'll get his time again soon enough.

VHS
May 5th, 2013, 5:43 PM
There was once a guy that was on a long losing streak and was being "buried" below the ranks of Santino Marella. And that man's name was Sheamus.

Antonio's day will come.

Ringo
May 6th, 2013, 6:14 AM
Beat the shit out of Hornswoggle like JBL did?

JRSlim21
May 6th, 2013, 7:51 AM
Beat the shit out of Godzilla like JBL did?

Fixed it for ya :)

The Rogerer
May 6th, 2013, 8:15 AM
There's sometimes a view of wrestling that can't see the forest for the trees. Being in the dog house doesn't put you on TV twice a week. The yodelling is actually pretty good as a heel tool goes. He gets mic time before the match and doesn't come out with the same old "You smelly americans", etc. He gets to make a stupid noise and it gets the attention of the crowd into the match more than it would without.

With Daniel Bryan and Fandango, there's a trend for more affectionate, love to hate heels (Bryan ending up a massive face, and Fandango approaching the same) of people who the crowd look forward to seeing and recognise. Cesaro is getting there, and is clearly part of the small circle of trusted hands as the shows stay fairly static. The yodelling helps him.

Ringo
May 6th, 2013, 2:53 PM
I think people are overreacting thinking he is being buried though. He's just not in their immediate plans, but they know he is talented. So they are using him in long matches to put over guys who they do have immediate plans and PPV matches for. He's still on basically every TV show every week. He'll get his time again soon enough.

Yeah, that is basically what the always questionable insiders have said.

Anaconda Sniper
May 6th, 2013, 2:55 PM
They need the man to win matches. They are booking him like 2006 Matt Hardy..except Hardy was a face and got over easier. Having him have competitive matches and losing doesn't do much for a heel..especially if you are not in the main event caliber.

The Rogerer
May 6th, 2013, 3:13 PM
It only takes about 4 shows to build momentum out of nowhere, which is something they do frequently. There's no point wasting wins on him at the moment while he's still establishing himself. I'm sure Kofi will get plenty as the US champion, for all the good it will do him.

Hotbeef-Injection
May 6th, 2013, 7:05 PM
He should be heel by talking about how he's stronger than the British Bulldog, a better technician than Dynanite Kid, a better high flyer than Rey Mysterio, more cunning than Volkoff, more dominant than Yokozuna and tougher than the Iron Shiek. His motivation could be that he is the best foreigner ever in WWE and wants to break the North American monopoly on the titles. If he's gonna be 'foreign guy' might as well embrace it. He could even feud with Santino for being a joke and not representing Europe to the best of his abilities.

The Law
May 7th, 2013, 3:20 PM
How do you make a heel? I've always thought that heels are best when they reflect personality aspects that people don't like in real-life. In many ways, wrestling allows us to watch our most primal fantasies play out. Everyone has wanted to kick someone's ass at some point. Maybe it was because you didn't like a particular person or maybe just to see what it felt like. Great heels are people whose asses we want to kick in real life. What are some traits people hate?

Arrogance-Almost all heels are arrogant. Obviously, Cesaro is. Americans generally perceive Europeans to be arrogant and disdainful of America, so that helps his cause here.

Bullying-The big strong guy beating up the weak. This works well for Cesaro because he's such a brute.

Cowardice-It's always fun when a heel talks a big game until he ends up having to actually fight someone his own size and then bails.

Narcissism-Similar to arrogance, but this is more based on looks. Cesaro definitely isn't a pretty boy. In fact, he's really the exact opposite: a man's man.

Superiority-There's always some disdain for someone who is the best in their particular field. This is the natural human emotion of jealousy. They're starting to play this up more with Cesaro, having him say that no one in the world can beat him.

Viciousness-Similar to bullying, but this more on the monstrosity end of things. A few heels, generally monsters, really cross the line into abject cruelty. This was Randy Orton in 2009, Kane at various points of his career, Undertaker during his satanic period.

I already pitched the idea of turning Cesaro into a Eurotrash version of Del Rio. I still like that idea, but here's another:

Give Cesaro a girl. A really hot one. This plays on the envy of men who are jealous that she wants Cesaro instead of them. But here's the thing: she only likes Cesaro when he's beating people up. When they first come out, she's cold and distant from him. But when he starts laying into his opponent, she gets a sick look in her eyes. She enjoys watching people get hurt. As a result, Cesaro starts really messing up his opponents. Have him beat down all the weak faces that the crowd loves: Santino, Ryder, Evan Bourne, Yoshi Tatsu. Have him really stretch them and beat them with elbows and uppercuts. And when he finishes, his girl is all over him. She loves that he's a feral beast in the ring. And, presumably, outside of it.

Antonio Cesaro: A Man's Man.

Ringo
May 8th, 2013, 12:39 PM
As noted earlier, WWE officials were very pleased with Antonio Cesaro's match against Kofi Kingston on last week's Main Event show. Cesaro is getting most of the credit for the match's success, which is believed to be the reason he's getting a match against Randy Orton on this week's Main Event.

He was booked strong on RAW, making quick work of Zack Ryder and then cutting a post-match promo that was very similar to the promo he cut after defeating Yoshi Tatsu at last week's NXT TV tapings.

Cesaro ripping out one of Kofi Kingston's dreadlocks fulfilled his claim that, "You took something from me, now I'm going to take something from you." After failing to reclaim the United States Championship, it appears he's being repositioned as an upper-midcard act.

:yes:

See? Chill out guys, it's all going to be okay.

mth
May 8th, 2013, 2:39 PM
I love how that 'news' is so void of any real substance. All it's doing is summarizing what he's been doing as of late with a bit of conjecture.

But yeah, I was never worried anyway and am glad things look to be turning around for him.

Zacharie
May 8th, 2013, 2:42 PM
Give him a quick feud with that Jericho fella.

Andy
May 8th, 2013, 2:51 PM
What the fuck is that 'news' article about? I've yet to come across a wrestling news website that isn't a complete joke.

mth
May 8th, 2013, 2:54 PM
It seems like about 95% of wresting 'news/rumors' is just bullshitting conjecture based on what you see on TV.

Andy
May 8th, 2013, 3:13 PM
I don't bother anymore, they're all useless. I only ever go on the main site for SD spoilers really.

The Rogerer
May 8th, 2013, 3:16 PM
I like seeing the mad imagination and conjecture. Like the stuff about the Rock and CM Punk leaving. Every day is the Montreal screwjob all over again.

Cewsh
May 8th, 2013, 3:18 PM
I don't bother anymore, they're all useless. I only ever go on the main site for SD spoilers really.

I hear the columns are pretty nifty.

Andy
May 8th, 2013, 3:36 PM
I only came across that from the thread in here. :D

DaSaintFan
May 9th, 2013, 4:48 AM
He should be heel by talking about how he's stronger than the British Bulldog, a better technician than Dynanite Kid, a better high flyer than Rey Mysterio, more cunning than Volkoff, more dominant than Yokozuna and tougher than the Iron Shiek. His motivation could be that he is the best foreigner ever in WWE and wants to break the North American monopoly on the titles. If he's gonna be 'foreign guy' might as well embrace it. He could even feud with Santino for being a joke and not representing Europe to the best of his abilities.

Stable him up with Rhodes Scholars... Cody - the Looks. Sandow - The Brains, Cesaro - The Power. That'd be one hell of a three-man group to deal with...

Ochoa
May 9th, 2013, 7:13 AM
They already have that in 3MB though.

DaSaintFan
May 9th, 2013, 9:29 PM
3mb = jobbers in a unit. You'd have Shield (apparently the "main event" 3 main group) and then let the Internationals do the same thing over the midcard level.

Andy
May 9th, 2013, 10:05 PM
I want to see a stable of Lesnar, Punk and Cesaro lead by Heyman.

VHS
May 10th, 2013, 1:35 AM
What ties does Cesaro have with anybody you just mentioned? As cool as that sounds, Cesaro would be a random throw-in.

DaSaintFan
May 10th, 2013, 1:47 AM
Deleted: oops.. nvm, I noticed VHS put that with andy's post

The Law
May 14th, 2013, 3:55 PM
Alright, now the sheets think Cesaro is being buried:

"After holding the United States Championship for 240 days through last month when he was upended by Kofi Kingston, Antonio Cesaro's standing in WWE has been greatly curtailed as the Swiss grappler has lost the majority of his televised matches. For those wondering whether his demotion is as result of "heat" backstage, it is not. Rather, top WWE officials simply feel he lacks personality.

While addressing Cesaro's current placement in WWE, Dave Meltzer noted on Wrestling Observer Radio Monday night that company brass believe that the former Ring of Honor standout is "boring," resulting in his slide down the card. Some in WWE, however, are not in favor of the demotion, and believe Cesaro should be a headliner.

While Cesaro engaged in a match with Kingston two weeks on WWE Main Event that was well-received by management, it failed to alter his standing in the organization. Meltzer noted, "They don't see him any higher than they did two weeks ago. There was lip service paid there for a week or two, but it's over now."

That's from the main page.

Peter Griffin
May 14th, 2013, 3:57 PM
Yeh im sure it took them the best part of a year to figure out he was 'boring' what a load of bollocks.

Ringo
May 14th, 2013, 3:59 PM
Not sure if it came from Meltzer but last week news sites were saying nothing was up and it was more down to lack of ideas for him at this time...

I'm sure when he gets pushed again we'll hear that some company higher ups have done a 180 and admitted they were wrong.

Cewsh
May 14th, 2013, 4:06 PM
Awful.

Andy
May 14th, 2013, 4:23 PM
What a load of absolute shit the main page is, I'm surprised so many of you read it.

Ringo
May 14th, 2013, 4:24 PM
*all wrestling insider sites?

Andy
May 14th, 2013, 4:31 PM
Well, yeah. I've yet to find one that's legit.

I was pretty annoyed after I went to the Raw after Mania because of a load of the bollocks people were talking. I was told by so many people that they'd heard from reliable sources that Rocky had fucked off home and caused chaos backstage and it turned out to not be true at all. I booed him along with the rest of the crowd who bought into it. Sorry Rocky. :(

mth
May 14th, 2013, 9:19 PM
I particularly enjoy when the 'reporters' claim to know insider stuff that turns out to be completely wrong. A couple of my favorite instances were when Pena had a "THE MASKED S.E.S MEMBER'S IDENTITY REVEALED!!" linking to a picture of Alex Riley and the 'SEE THE BIZARRE SUMMERSLAM POSTER!' that was a shitty Photoshop job with Hardy on a bed getting his shoes stolen by Orton. There's no accountability. Just make shit up, claim you have sources, and you'll get hits. Helps if you have pictures of divas (don't forget to tag them with 'naked/nude'! #PenaTip).

OD50
May 15th, 2013, 2:59 AM
I can almost guarantee that Vince feels Cesaro is boring while Trips thinks he's great.

HHH's choice of wrestling/sports entertainment is stuff like Race/Flair or Steamboat/Flair while McMahon get's a boner watching someone Puke in a trashcan..

MMH
May 15th, 2013, 3:11 AM
What ties does Cesaro have with anybody you just mentioned? As cool as that sounds, Cesaro would be a random throw-in.

They are all good wrestlers?

Thats all you need. There would be worse people to throw into the Heyman mix than Cesaro. I dont know why he has to have ties anyway if he is a client of Heyman that would be enough.

mr sabu
May 15th, 2013, 3:17 AM
accoring to smacker spoilers


Fans chanted boring as Cesaro started in control at a slow pace.

Peter Griffin
May 15th, 2013, 4:08 AM
I particularly enjoy when the 'reporters' claim to know insider stuff that turns out to be completely wrong. A couple of my favorite instances were when Pena had a "THE MASKED S.E.S MEMBER'S IDENTITY REVEALED!!" linking to a picture of Alex Riley and the 'SEE THE BIZARRE SUMMERSLAM POSTER!' that was a shitty Photoshop job with Hardy on a bed getting his shoes stolen by Orton. There's no accountability. Just make shit up, claim you have sources, and you'll get hits. Helps if you have pictures of divas (don't forget to tag them with 'naked/nude'! #PenaTip).

My favorite was when Pena posted that WWE were putting together a tribute for Piper who was about to pop his clogs from cancer, and when he got major heat he tried to blame it on his 'sources' the cunt should of been fired then and there.

Peter Griffin
May 15th, 2013, 4:09 AM
accoring to smacker spoilers

Yeh some idiot fans tend to do that when people actually, you know, wrestle. It's not a Cesaro specific thing, I have heard it at loads of events I have been to.

VHS
May 15th, 2013, 3:24 PM
Just the notion of the higher-ups considering Cesaro as "boring" really disappoints me. He's unlike any other superstar that they have now, and why would they consider him boring when Damien Sandow is calling Randy Orton... a top player... boring? And there's no way they'd wait for Cesaro to hold the US title for over 200 days only to think he was boring.

None of this makes sense, I hope it's just BS.

MMH
May 15th, 2013, 3:28 PM
Was it Cesaro who used to apply a headlock for half an hour in matches earlier in his career to piss people off for a laugh?

OD50
May 15th, 2013, 3:34 PM
Never heard that. Hope it's true though. :lol:

Cewsh
May 15th, 2013, 3:37 PM
Yep, he had a match with Daniel Bryan in Pro Wrestling Guerilla that was 15+ minutes of headlocks.

OD50
May 15th, 2013, 3:40 PM
Amazing.

Jacknife
May 15th, 2013, 3:42 PM
I like the idea of him being a rich European guy. Like a European Del Rio, but better. Come out in suits, drive sports cars, etc.

VHS
May 17th, 2013, 12:05 PM
The constant "news updates" on the main page about Cesaro's standing in the company are getting annoying. We've had several articles saying the same thing... Some people think he's boring, others don't. Huh.

Kdestiny
May 17th, 2013, 12:06 PM
Top people apparently do think he is boring

Anaconda Sniper
May 17th, 2013, 12:08 PM
Probably too late and outdated now.. but I think they should have given him the "most interesting man in the world" thing.

Badger
June 16th, 2013, 1:01 PM
Looks like this question with Colter, could be the shot in the arm Cesaro needs. :yes:

Hero!
June 16th, 2013, 1:20 PM
AMERICA NEEDS IMMIGRANTS LIKE CESARO WHO CAME TO OUR COUNTRY LEGALLY, SPEAKS EXCELLENT ENGLISH AND DIDN'T "SNEAK" IN HERE. @AntonioCesaro (https://twitter.com/AntonioCesaro)


Yupp. please.

Andy
June 16th, 2013, 1:35 PM
Obviously the pairing doesn't really make sense at all but at least pairing him with Coltrr signifies they want to do something with him. I still wish they'd made him another Paul Heyman guy but this will hopefully be good.

Hero!
June 16th, 2013, 3:41 PM
It does make sense. Zeb hates "illegals", which, in his view, are the brown immigrants. Cesaro is an immigrant, but he's this big white guy who speaks English. Cesaro is the embodiment of the American dream.

Ringo
June 16th, 2013, 4:13 PM
:yes:

Antonio "The Model Immigrant" Cesaro with Zeb by his side could be great.

mth
June 16th, 2013, 4:15 PM
He could bring back that attire he was wearing while US Champ.

Tainted Eclipse
June 16th, 2013, 6:17 PM
:yes:

Antonio "The Model Immigrant" Cesaro with Zeb by his side could be great.

Yep. Basically what his original gimmick was, but managed by a guy who can talk and immediately gives him distinctness and hopefully some kind of direction. I don't know who in the world could think Cesaro is boring in the ring, but boring as a character what do you expect when you don't put him in any angle and butcher his one feud with the Miz.

VHS
October 3rd, 2013, 1:34 PM
Main page:
-According to reports, there are plans to break up the tag-team of The Real Americans. Apparently WWE feels the "giant swing move" that Antonio Cesaro has been doing lately is a big babyface spot in matches, so they are likely going to be turning Cesaro babyface in the near future.

I'm down... SO down for a Cesaro face turn, but doesn't it seem way too soon? The Real Americans thing has been going nicely.

Jaymz
October 3rd, 2013, 1:48 PM
It's been going nicely in a 'it's entertaining but not puling up trees' sorta way.

I think he could be a really fun face

Tainted Eclipse
October 3rd, 2013, 2:00 PM
i will be very happy if this is true. imagine an adr/cesaro whc match.

Kimura Kid
October 3rd, 2013, 2:14 PM
imagine an adr/cesaro whc match.

:panic:

Nash Diesel
October 3rd, 2013, 2:26 PM
Have him start punching trees and building cabins in other wrestlers yards.

No seriously, the guy was doing just fine, he wasn't given anything to really do though while he held the US title but I will say he fits perfectly with the Real Americans in terms of his gimmick. He actually fits better than Jack Swagger to be honest. The fact is, Cesaro is over, people like to watch him wrestle and would care more about him if he were given more to do. They didn't sign him for his promo work, I've seen enough of the guy to know that he wasn't the guy you would say was great on the mic like his tag-team partner Chris Hero.

And what's funny about that news piece is I literally just said in the Raw thread a few days ago that the WWE would confuse his giant swing spot getting a positive response as a need to turn him face. WRONG. Fans just appreciate shit and applaud good work, Triple H is such a student of the game, how about he watch some Japanese wrestling where they applaud good work not just the guy they're told they should cheer for.

Jaymz
October 3rd, 2013, 2:32 PM
The worst part of it is that I can see them splitting the pair up, with Cesaro fulfilling all of the American stereotypes such as becoming morbidly obese and ignorant to world politics, only to be pared up with Santino, trying to prove himself as an American by fulfilling all sorts of Canadian stereotypes, such as becoming a mountie, trying to join the Hart family or being permanently drunk.

It'll be hilarious.

Mark Hammer
October 3rd, 2013, 2:41 PM
I don't mind the Real Americans but I preferred it when Swagger and Colter were alone.

Hero!
October 3rd, 2013, 3:08 PM
i will be very happy if this is true. imagine an adr/cesaro whc match.

don't give me a boner when i'm in public, ffs

Andy
October 3rd, 2013, 4:06 PM
Cesaro doesn't need to turn face. Teaming with Swagger is the most interesting Swagger has ever been but Cesaro doesn't need it. Fans respond to him because he's a magician in the ring. Just elevate him a little, imagine feuds with Punk, Bryan or Sheamus...that's what's going to take him to a new level, not a gimmick change every few months.

Nash Diesel
October 3rd, 2013, 4:21 PM
Cesaro doesn't need to turn face. Teaming with Swagger is the most interesting Swagger has ever been but Cesaro doesn't need it. Fans respond to him because he's a magician in the ring. Just elevate him a little, imagine feuds with Punk, Bryan or Sheamus...that's what's going to take him to a new level, not a gimmick change every few months.

Exactly, don't turn him, elevate him and watch the magic unfold. Swaggers still a boring as fuck dude though, it's Glenn Beck's dad that kept him interesting and Cesaro keeping the team fresh.

mth
October 3rd, 2013, 4:25 PM
I'd be all for a Cesaro face turn. Have a US Title multi-man where Cesaro wins the belt. Shortly after, Zeb and Swagz turn on him realizing their mistake in aligning with him and believing him to be unfit to be US Champ, etc., and there you go. Cesaro comes out on top of the feud (giant swing to Zeb in the match, of course) and away you go.

JRSlim21
October 3rd, 2013, 10:45 PM
Give him another US title run. See how he is as a face. If he's over, give him the briefcase next year.

As an aside, I'd love Cesaro/Ziggler for 15 minutes please. I don't care how they do it, just make it happen

Beer-Belly
October 3rd, 2013, 11:04 PM
I'm going to vomit if they make him gung ho for the USA and play it for laughs.

Just play up his a freakish strength to the nth degree and downplay his perceived lack of charisma by making him a stoic bad ass who only speaks when it's absolutely necessary. I'd put him in a feud with Swagger and Colter for a few months and then have him go after Ambrose or Axel for a mid-card belt. If that works and he's over enough, I'd book him to have a dominating performance in the Rumble like Rikishi in 2000. I can't remember the last time a mid-carder surprised everyone and gained a huge amount of momentum from Rumble performance, but it needs to happen more often.

Hero!
October 3rd, 2013, 11:38 PM
Bring back the Euro title and run a tournament to crown a new champion. Have he and swagger in the finals, with them pimping at as a "real American" winning the European title, but Cesaro wins it and cuts a promo about being proud of who you are, European American whatever. Zeb & Swagger turn on him and now you've got Cesaro as a sympathetic babyface promoting pride in yourself blah blah blah.

Plus, they've got so many Europeans now, the tourney would be awesome:
Santino, Cesaro, Barrett, Sheamus, McIntyre, Swagger (the American), Los MATADORES (billed from Spain)

all this & the got a Bulgarian and Frenchman down in developmental :lol: loaded roster

GeezaTap
October 7th, 2013, 12:37 PM
He just needs a push.

Anyone that's got a Giant Swing just needs a push:shifty:

OD50
October 7th, 2013, 1:39 PM
http://cdn2.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/307173/3oHyVKs.gif

:yes:

HHHnFoley_Rulez
October 7th, 2013, 2:16 PM
It's hypnotic..

MikeHunt
October 7th, 2013, 2:18 PM
I could easily watch that for ages

Andy
October 7th, 2013, 3:09 PM
Khaki must love his job. Get paid for hanging around doing fuck all until someone strong enough to throw him around comes along.

Mark Hammer
October 7th, 2013, 3:11 PM
Khali is pretty useless. Watching him "dance" gives me the creeps.